From Two Sides to All Sides: Resilient Listening and Compassionate Conversations in the Midst of Conflict (Rory Michelle Sullivan & Nashira Pearl)

An independent podcast with Rory Michelle Sullivan and Nashira Pearl

using the Makhloket Matters methodology from The Pardes Institute of Jewish Studies

In this four episode podcast, Rory Michelle and Nashira - two committed, passionate American Jews who care deeply about Judaism and productive dialogue - share our learning and unlearning about the Israel-Palestine conflict from a place of humanizing everyone implicated. We explore the perspectives we’ve encountered through organized trips to the area, our own reading, and how that plus our own upbringing has influenced our understanding of the issues. Our goal is to share what we’ve learned, including how to have constructive, generative disagreement with others, using the Mahloket Matters methodology from The Pardes Institute of Jewish Studies which combines Jewish wisdom and social psychology to generate discussion, critical thinking, personal growth, and the deepening of relationships. Listen if you’ve ever wondered: “How could they possibly think that?!”, sometimes feel that there is no hope for talking with people who think differently, or if you are afraid to talk or even ask about these issues and don’t know where to start. Our intention is to expand the conversation on the Israel-Palestine conflict from two sides to all sides while giving you hope and tools to talk about it productively in your own life.

Credits:

Thanks to:

• The Pardes Institute of Jewish Studies, Zvi Hirschfield & Monica Kleinman, and our Mahloket Matters Fellowship Winter 2024/5784 cohort
• Chaim Landau and Sam Sussman for creating and running incredible programs to engage in deep conversation and resilient listening with those directly affected by the Israel-Palestine conflict
• Nashira for being an incredible friend as well as partner in this podcast journey. This podcast is what it is because of your enthusiasm, thoughtfulness, and insight.
• Nashira’s husband and parents for ensuring a kid-free, quiet home for our recording marathon!

Podcast Editing: Alex Kontis at Sonics Podcasts https://www.sonics.io/

Audio Engineering: Conor T. L. Sullivan https://conortlsullivan.com/

Recorded using Riverside.fm

Equipment & Studio:

• RM: at WXPN Podcast Studio at REC Philly on a Shure SM7B via a RØDECaster Pro mixer
• Nashira recorded at home with a Blue Yeti with pop filter. 

Rory Michelle offers weekend Artist/Educator in Residences that can include workshops using the Makhloket Matters Methodology from The Pardes Institute of Jewish Studies. She is also a singer-songwriter, songleader, and Jewish educator. Check her out here: rorymichelle.com.

Thank you to these amazing Patrons for supporting what Rory Michelle creates!

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Danielle Selber

Delen Heisman

Rick Kitei

Irene Tenenbaum and Daniel Verbit

Jerry Shinfeld

Alicia Jo Rabins

​Michael Spanier

​Julie Meyers

Heidi Tehilla Newman

LeeAnn Suen

Susan Schapiro

Jesse Bernstein 

​Jim & Sherry Leffert

​Nashira Pearl

Join them here: https://www.patreon.com/rorymichellesullivan

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