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22 Nov 2024How Getting Out of $670K of Debt, Led Rho Thomas to Become a Financial Coach00:35:18

Imagine you’re a mid-level IP associate at a big firm. 

You’ve just had your first child.  As the end of your mat leave rapidly approaches, you consider going back to work 50% time for 50% pay.  But after looking at your family finances, you see that you and your medical resident spouse are $670K in debt! 

That would have sent me back to bed, but not our next guest on the WILL Podcast, Rho Thomas.  

Rho not only went back to work full-time, she got to work to reduce their debt, which she more than halved in just a few years.  

After overcoming the shame, she began to share her story (anonymously at first). Rho now helps lawyers get out of debt and control of their money.  

Listen in as Rho:

  • Tells about the moment she realized she and her husband had $678,000 in debt.
  • Learned how to reduce that by more than half in a few years.
  • Felt the call to blog, then podcast about her journey. 

 

Where to find Rho:

Instagram: @iamrhothomas

LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/iamrhothomas

Website: https://www.rhothomas.com 

Podcast: Personal Finance for Lawyers with Rho Thomas - https://www.rhothomas.com/podcast 

 

The WILL Podcast is hosted by Elena Deutsch, a dedicated legal career coach and catalyst.  This podcast is more than a good listen — it may inspire you.  As WILL Alumni and Guests break the confines of traditional practice, you’ll see that change is not just possible for them, but for you too. 

 

Feel stuck, unhappy and ready to explore a WILL journey of your own?

Book your consultation with Elena:

https://womeninterestedinleavinglaw.com/book-a-call 

 

Follow

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elena-deutsch 

Instagram: www.instagram.com/womeninterestedinleavinglaw 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/womeninterestedinleavinglaw

Web: https://womeninterestedinleavinglaw.com 

 

21 Nov 2024How Pursuing Comedy Led Pamela T. to Her Ideal Legal Job00:32:45

Imagine feeling overwhelmed and stressed as a big law litigator, breaking down on the A train to JFK as you head to England for the Christmas holidays.

Imagine a weird relief that COVID offers, as you move temporarily to Vermont where you begin to sort out what you’d really like to do next.   

Imagine deciding to forgo law, only to discover an ideal job while writing a joke for your burgeoning stand-up comedy routine.   

In this episode, meet Pamela T, a former big law attorney, who had an epic journey across four countries before landing in Newcastle, England. 

Now she pursues her dual passions - fighting the patriarchy and comedy, all while raising her son and enjoying the occasional good cup of coffee after Pilates.  You can’t make this up!

In our conversation, hear how:

  • COVID helped Pamela step off the lock-step path and expand her perception of reality. 
  • She freed herself from her firm in stages.
  • ONE phone call with a Greek comedian opened up a world of opportunities.
  • Pamela turned away from law before landing an ideal legal role.
  • Mindset shifts help her in all aspects of life, and especially after a bombed a comedy set.  

Hosted by Elena Deutsch, a dedicated legal career coach and catalyst, the WILL Podcast is more than a good listen — it may inspire you.  As WILL Alumni and Guests break the confines of traditional practice, you’ll see that change is not just possible for them, but for you too. 

Note: In this episode you’ll hear me refer to a tech fail, but my editing team patched it up - so it should be fairly smooth listening!  Please enjoy this inaugural episode of the WILL Podcast!!

 

Trigger warning: miscarriage, sexual assault and cults.

 

References

  • Midnight in Cairo, by Raphael Cormack
  • The Artist’s Way by Julia Cameron

Follow Pamela on Instagram: @pt_lolz.

21 Nov 2024Anxiety in Women Lawyers: How it Affects You, and What You Can Do00:13:58

Does your heart stop when you get an email from a certain partner or client?

Have you experienced health concerns that doctors have been unable to diagnose - like stomach pain, rashes or hair loss?

You didn’t used to “be an anxious person” but now you wonder if this is who you are?

If you’re increasingly concerned about the toll anxiety from work is taking on your physical and mental health, this is for you.

In this episode, Elena shares her understanding of “situational anxiety” and how she sees it impacting women lawyers.    

She openly explains:  

  • What occurs in the body and the effect of living in a frequent state of stress.
  • How being self-compassionate can help (and why that’s so hard for women lawyers).
  • Three techniques to reduce anxiety and regain calm.

 

References

Book: The High Five Habit, Mel Robbins

 

Trigger Warning: Anxiety, mental health. Elena is not a licensed mental health professional. If you are experiencing significant anxiety, then we recommend talking to a health professional. 

 

Hosted by Elena Deutsch, a dedicated legal career coach and catalyst, the WILL Podcast is more than a good listen — it may inspire you.  As WILL Alumni and Guests break the confines of traditional practice, you’ll see that change is not just possible for them, but for you too. 

 

Feel stuck, unhappy and ready to explore a WILL journey of your own?

Book your consultation with Elena: https://womeninterestedinleavinglaw.com/book-a-call 

 

Follow

Web: https://womeninterestedinleavinglaw.com 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elena-deutsch 

Instagram: www.instagram.com/womeninterestedinleavinglaw 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/womeninterestedinleavinglaw 

 

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