Treble's Going (Matthew Austin)

• Ben White-Horne is a ringer and programmer from Cambridge (that one, not this one).
• Notably, Ben is one of the authors of Wheatley, whom you may have seen sitting quietly in the corner of one of your Ringing Room towers. We talk about the construction and operation of Wheatley, about Ben's other ringing software projects, about composition and conducting... the conversation ranges!

Thank you, friends.

• Carbaretta Bartland is a ringer and author from, well... I'll let her tell you.
• Her books, A Short Touch of Bristol and Her First Long Length explore many aspects of ringing--band management, instruction, challenging methods, flowering relationships--and are best enjoyed with a glass of wine. And, perhaps, a fan going.
• We talk about how Carbaretta started ringing, her writing, and her future plans. Project Pickled Egg comes up; we've previously discussed PPE in episodes 23 and 25 with Simon Linford, and it's come up in a few other episodes.

Thank you, friends.

• Tracy Chevalier is an author and admirer of ringing, an American expat living in London.
• Tracy writes historical fiction: we briefly touch on writing and researching Girl with a Pearl Earring, The Last Runaway,  and Remarkable Creatures (and glance briefly at The Virgin Blue and The Lady and The Unicorn) before delving into the meat of the episode: her novel A Single Thread. (Find Tracy's books at her site or wherever you get books.)
• Tracy commends both Akenfield: Portrait of an English Village and  The Nine Tailors to your attention; I still say read Tracy first!

Thank you, friends. (Especially those of you who recommended Tracy to me during a dinner in Northampton--you've enriched my life unimaginably!)

From Kent School in Connecticut, Treble's Going is the podcast about change-ringing in North America.

Join us for conversations about tower and handbells, about your favorite method or about conducting, about running practices and ringing online. In each episode we focus on a new topic with a different ringer.

We'd love to hear from you, too. Go ahead and tell us what you're ringing, how you're doing, what you'd like to hear, whom you'd like to hear from. Email treblesgoingpodcast@gmail.com or head to treblesgoing.com. 

• Leland Kusmer is a linguist, a ringer, and (thankfully, for all of us) a bit of a web programmer.
• Leland's tune (handbell) choir: Bell Appeal, out of San Francisco.
• Swarthmore College, where Leland describes enjoying "a combination of social responsibility and academic rigor."
• Ringing at Smith College--as I write this the featured photo includes Leland. Keep reading, and you'll see a photo of an upcoming guest =)
• Ringing Room, the world's premier online ringing website! Try it, and join the thousand-plus ringers using it during social distancing/stay-at-home!
  • Recent BellBoard entries "located" in Ringing Room.
  • Ringing Room Take-Hold Lounge (facebook group)
• Don Morrison's "Build-Up Peals to Chandler's 23" on CompLib.

Thank you, friends.

• Sarah Moriarty learned to ring at Smith College, of the Five Colleges Consortium. She now splits her ringing among Boston's towers, Orleans, and The Noisy Oyster.
• Sarah was at Smith (majoring in maths) when Alice Dickinson spearheaded a successful effort to bring tower bells to the Mendenhall Center for Performing Arts. Articles in "Smithpedia" and in the Association for Women in Mathematics Newsletter summarize the role of bells on Smith's campus and remember Alice's life and contributions, respectively.
• Sarah also mentions Smith's honor of hosting the first North American Guild Annual General Meeting.
• Sarah describes how Smith ringers have seeded a new crop of "rising stars" in North American ringing. They include Leland Kusmer (episode 001), Bryn Reinstadler (episode 004), Kira Chase (current Trinity (NYC) ringing master), and Alison Stevens (episode 010, upcoming).

Thank you, friends.

• Quilla Roth is the Education Officer of the Washington Ringing Society and a proud graduate of the National Cathedral School.
• Quilla has been ringing at Washington National Cathedral since the dedication of its tower.
• A brief overview of Title IX, for your reference.
• Stedman Singles (!) on complib and blueline.
• Ringing Room gets another mention.

Thank you, friends.

• Myles Dakan is the Deputy Ringing Master at Trinity, Wall Street in New York.
• Myles is another graduate of the linguistics program at Swarthmore...
• ...and is a shape-note singer...
• ...and is a modern Western square dancer.
• Most of the time, though, we talk handbells.
• RingingRoom gets its due mention.
• Here's a concise introduction to place notation from "The Learning Curve" and the booklet "Place Notation" going into more depth (CCCBR, 1984).
• Trinity has almost reopened.
• (And since Myles was gracious enough to mention it, here's the quarter our faculty kids just rang in tower.)

Thank you, friends.

• Bryn Reinstadler is a graduate of Williams College, a graduate student in machine learning and artificial intelligence at Massachusetts Institute of Technology, and is the voice (and aesthetic sensibility) of Ringing Room.
• Bryn, with Leland Kusmer, taught MIT's recent course "English Change-Ringing: A Mathematical-Musical Team Sport." (Their reading list for this project is at the end of these notes.)
• If you'd like a short introduction to machine learning, Bryn recommends this two-minute YouTube video. 
• Mostly, though, we talk about permutations, Cayley graphs, and touring permutation groups. You know: ringing.
• For more discussion of the Chandler's 23-band, see the end of episode 001. For more discussion of Academic Delight Major, see episode 005.
• Selected readings:
  • Coleman, Steve. The Ringing in History Companion.
  • Morris, Ernest. The History and Art of Change Ringing.
  • Sanderson, J (ed.). Change Ringing: The History of an English Art, vol I-III (CCCBR).
  • Davies, Michael B. The Unassuming Genius: The Life and Times of AJ Pitman.
  • Shurcliff, Margaret Homer. Lively Days: Some Memoirs of Margaret Homer Shurcliff.
  • Snowdon, Jasper. The Method of Double Norwich Court Bob Major.
  • Simpson, J. Michael (ed.). There Was Life Before NAG (NAGCR, available at nagcr.org).

Thank you, friends.

• John Schreiner is an organ builder, singer, and (luckily for us) a creative ringer.
• John learned to ring at Kalamazoo College; he remembers for us the experience of learning from Jeff Smith both in the classroom and in the tower.
• (Kalamazoo's handbell bands constructed methods including Kalamazoo Treble Bob Minor and Major, Stetson Surprise Minor, Queen's Gate Surprise Minor, Hinckley Delight Minor, Xarifa Delight Minor, Great Lakes Treble Bob Minor, Jeremiah Treble Bob Minor, and Michigan Delight Major.)
• We talk mostly about the construction of Academic Delight Major (on blueline and on complib), which was named at Kent School in memory of Nadia Yovanovitch, faculty emerita and mother of the Hon. Marie Yovanovitch. (Bellboard performance record.)
• We also learn that Martin Treble Bob Major was named for John's son! 

Thank you, friends.

• John Bihn learned to ring while at Williams College and is one of the many recent Williams ringers who were introduced to ringing by Casey McClellan. (Casey had learned to ring while on a Florence Chandler Memorial Fellowship.) 
• John is Ringing Master of the MIT Guild of Change Ringers.
• John discusses his first time conducting a quarter peal, in celebration of the 40th anniversary of the MIT Guild.
• We also discuss calling changes and Project Pickled Egg.

Thank you, friends.

• Tom Farthing is the North American Guild's Public Relations Officer. 
• Tom learned to ring at Kalamazoo College, under the tutelage of Jeff Smith, before the tower bells were installed. (Kalamazoo's handbell band is also discussed in episode 005.)
• Tom also rang briefly in Hendersonville, and now in Chicago. We discuss a peal of Cambridge Surprise Major full of firsts, and how he became the erstwhile North American rep for Abel!
• Primarily, though, we discuss the inauguration of North American Guild's Jeff Smith Young Ringer's Award, its 2019 awardees, and how to nominate. (GDoc link)

Thank you, friends.

• Laura Goodin is a writer and a ringer and, luckily for all of us, a remote teacher of ringing.
• Laura first tried her hand at ringing at St. Andrew's, Enfield (Dove's listing, heritage listing). She now rings at the St. James Old Cathedral in Melbourne, Australia.
• Laura is also the founder of the Ringing Room Take-Hold Lounge, a public facebook group (no login necessary to view/read) where hundreds of ringers coordinate online practices, performances, and classes.
• [Note that while the Take-Hold Lounge is premised on the use of Ringing Room (UK server, NA server), interested ringers may want to look at either Handbell Stadium (motion-controller inputs, Unity engine) or Muster (Abel/Beltutor/Beltower P2P coordination) as alternatives. The three are fundamentally-different technologies, designed to serve different audiences and priorities.]
• That's right, classes! In this episode we mainly discuss a class Laura's been teaching introductory ringing, completely online. But that's not all being organized in the Take-Hold Lounge: as of release, a workshop on calls in Plain Bob Doubles has just concluded, and we hear Laura pondering a class introducing Grandsire.
• Finally, Laura tells us a bit about St. James Old Cathedral's upcoming Festival of Bells; to let her know if you incorporate any of these ideas into your next event!
• Finally, I ask you to please consider providing feedback on these first six episodes in this survey.

Thank you, friends.

• Alison Stevens is a music theorist and ringer, currently in Vancouver, formerly of Smith College via UMass Amherst.
• We discuss how we approach the teaching of ringing, drawing on experiences in the classroom, in front of an orchestra, and even in dance halls. (You can see an example of contra dancing in this video, and hear more on the structural similarity to ringing in episode 003: Myles Dakan.)
• Despite our focus on methods of teaching, we do discuss many (ringing) methods for teaching, including Bastow*, Penultimus, Very Little Bob Minor, St. Simon's/St. Martin's, and 41 Surprise Minor Methods. (* - Alison and I are, unfortunately, imprecise with our language and use "Bastow" as a catch-all, ignoring the Bastow/Bistow distinction. Please forgive us.)
• Boomwhackers make themselves known! Here is a video of THUD! boomwhacking "Africa."
• Currently, Alison's been busy developing apps for ringing.

Thank you, friends.

The title says it all. Couldn't leave this bit on the cutting-room floor!

• Don Morrison is a prolific ringer and composer who learned to ring in Boston and currently rings in Pittsburgh. He'll always have a soft spot for St. John the Baptist in Peterborough (website, Dove's listing), though, as you'll hear.
• If you'd like to read up on composing, Don recommends:
  • Leary, John. Handbook of Composition.
  • Wilson, Wilfrid. Change Ringing. [scattered snippets, in surprising amount]
  • Trollope, J. Armiger. Variation and Transposition. [possibly out of print, online at https://www.ringing.info/v-and-t.html]
  • Longridge, John. Conducting and Coursing Order.
  • Price, Brian. A "fistful of interesting papers" at ringing.info [most easily found by searching "Price" in-page]
  • Chant, Harold and Giles Thompson. Method Splicing parts I and II (Minor Methods and Major Methods, respectively).
  • Pullin, Richard. Ongoing series "Notable Composers of the Past" in Ringing World.
• For the truly curious, here is a listing for that first (rung) peal composition of Don's, conducted by Geoff Davies: number 22 in the list of peals rung at Groton School.
• Rod Pipe's series can be found in Ringing World in 1985 at pp. 636 and 1084; and in 1986 at pp. 60, 168, 232, 304, 460, 576, 642, 728, 840, 912, 1020, and 1080.
• We also manage to squeeze in some talk of Project Pickled Egg and the notion of "bumping up" Cornwall in the standard progression of treble-dodging methods one learns.
• If you'd like to see a "grab bag of things of interest to ringers to which things have been added and subtracted over the years," you're in luck: Don hosts such a resource at ringing.org!

Thank you, friends.

• Candace Higginbotham studied political theory at Louisiana State University and went into a fulfilling career in public service.
• But we know she was just biding time until a ring could be installed at St. Mark's Cathedral in Shreveport.
• We discuss building a band from scratch, and all the guidance and assistance given that band by ringers from Little Rock, Housoton, Dallas, Texarkana; from across North America and from the North American Guild; and from around the world.
• (And if you only have two minutes to spare today, please skip ahead to 40:00 in the recording: you'll hear my favorite two minutes of the series so far.)

Thank you, friends.

• Dan Beaman studied architecture at Clemson University; before that, he studied Golden Books, as we all should.
• Dan's long career in the design and restoration of sacred spaces brought him to change-ringing via the 1989-1993 restoration of St. Michael's Church following hurricane Hugo.
• We talk about learning to ring, building a band, and planning ringing tours for teenagers.
• Mostly, though, it's talk about towers: their design, their acceptance of bells, and their maintenance.

Thank you, friends.

• Linda Woodford learned to ring in Boston, as part of the "Geoff Davies crew," and apprenticed as a hanger at the Whitechapel Bell Foundry.
• We discuss what makes one a likely ringer, ringing heavy bells, and enjoying the physicality of ringing and steeplekeeping.
• Along the way Linda reminds us of a few things to keep our eyes and ears on, and advises us on taking care of our bells.

Thank you, friends.

• Fr. Alban Riley is a monk of the Order of Saint Benedict, at Westminster Abbey in British Columbia.
• We discuss living in religious community, guided by the Rule of Saint Benedict: prayers, work, and recreation devoted to one's God and fellow man.
• We also discuss how change ringing came to the Abbey and how it features in the monks' daily lives.
• Lastly, I put in a little plug for the North American Guild of Change Ringers Annual General Meeting, running October 9-11. You can find more information at the NAGCR website.

Thank you, friends.

• This episode comes from a session recorded at the North American Guild of Change Ringers Annual General Meeting, held October 9-11, 2020.
• Cathy Booth and I talk at length about her podcast, Fun With Bells and about Treble's Going.
• We talk about starting our podcasts, about the planning-recording-editing-publishing process, and about our mutual admiration for each other's work.
• And, in a first for this podcast, we take listener questions!

Many thanks to the North American Guild and to the Honolulu StARS for hosting the AGM, and to you for listening, friends.

• Douglas Kitson is a teacher and ringer in Quebec City, whose first awareness of ringing came during his childhood in Australia.
• Douglas first learned to handle in Quebec, but rang his first two quarters on the same day after a week of intensive practice in London!
• Mostly, though, we talk about the ringing at Holy Trinity Cathedral and at St. Matthew's Bell Tower; about how it started and about how it's progressed through the years.
• These days, Douglas is ringing plenty of minimus/covered singles or singly chiming for services, as restrictions on congregating allow. But as thing ease up, be sure to clear Memorial Day weekend for a trip to Quebec City, and perhaps study up on ringing "Sixty on Thirds" (no relation).

Thank you, friends.

• Marjorie Winter is a mathematician and ringer in the Cambridge district of the Ely Diocesan Association.
• Marj's exposure to ringing came as a student at National Cathedral School, where she was hooked not only by the musical and physical aspects of ringing, but also by its suitability to mathematical analysis.
• Marj's path took her through Smith College's mathematics department and eventually to Cambridge University, where she advised Master's students and developed the Cambridge Mathematics Placement program while pursuing her own research.
• In this part we talk mostly about schools, schooling, being a student, and being a teacher; part II (episode 020) is devoted to ringing!

Thank you, friends.

• Edwin Higginbotham first became aware of change-ringing when watching The Nine Tailors on PBS--this four-part miniseries is available on Amazon!
• It took decades, though, until Edwin would get his hands on a bell-rope. You can hear that story in episode 12 with Candace Higginbotham.
• Here, we discuss the three-year project that brought bells to St. Mark's Episcopal Cathedral in Shreveport, Louisiana.
• Finally, Edwin lets us in on a little secret: he can ring methods on the tower's bells from his desk at home!

Thank you, friends.

This is part two of a two-part interview with Marjorie Winter. Part one was episode 18 of Treble's Going.

• Marj started ringing as part of the Whitechapel Guild [Washington Post article] at the National Cathedral School in Washington, DC.
• From there to Smith College for lunchtime quarter peals in hand and trips all around southern New England.
• Marj describes ringing in and around the US and England, through different stages of life, making friends and memories along the way.
• Taking traveling with a band to its extreme, Marj shares with us two trips to teach and ring in Singapore, and her appreciation of the teaching skills taught by the Association of Ringing Teachers.
• These days, though, you'll find her ringing with the 5 O'Clock Club [bellboard link].

Thank you, friends.

• Michael Tartell is a Boston ringer, by way of St. Louis.
• Michael learned to ring in Chicago, and from there passed through Philadelphia on his way to Boston: an embarrassment of ringing riches!
• We talk about learning and teaching with simulators, which I believe will be invaluable in 2021 as many towers look to resume in-practice teaching and ringing.
• Mostly, though, we talk about viruses: what they are, how they invade cells and replicate, their effects on our bodies, and vaccines.

Thank you, friends.

• Diane Amison-Loring is the editor of The Clapper, the journal of the North American Guild of Change Ringers.
• Diane was formerly a sister of the Community of the Holy Spirit; we discuss how that community came to hang bells at Melrose School, which brought ringing to Diane's life.
• We also discuss The Clapper's purpose, its regular features, and articles from 2020's issues that we particularly recommend to your attention: Bryn Reinstadler & Leland Kusmer's "Introducing the Ringing Room" and Josh Burson's "Silent Bells around North America" & "The Bells That Never Were". (All links to Clapper articles require member sign-in.)

Thank you, friends.

• Kemp Brinson is a ringer and attorney in Winter Haven, FL; in 2018 he conducted a series of interviews which we are happy to be able to feature on Treble's Going.
• This is the first half of Kemp's conversation with Simon Linford of Birmingham, UK. Kemp and Simon discuss at length Project Pickled Egg, the project behind the "core 7" surprise major methods.
• Finally, Simon and I touch base for a quick update on both the publicization and adoption of the core seven and on his position as president of the Central Council of Church Bell Ringers.

Thank you, friends.

• Stuart is a Miami ringer, by way of South Africa, England, and New York.
• While with the Trinity ringers, Stuart helped develop the Trinity Shield Striking Competition (YT video of 2018 competition, our guest is wearing plaid), North America's only.
• We discuss the competition, good striking, and how one integrates more striking practice and awareness into practices.
• Finally, we settle the matter of which North American tower scored the most peals in 2020.

Thank you for listening, friends.

• This is the second half of an interview Kemp Brinson conducted with Simon Linford; you can find the first half of the interview in episode 23.
• In this half Simon and Kemp discuss the "zones" of ringing, barriers to progression, and goals & aspirations in ringing.
• Next we hear about the genesis and structure of the Birmingham School of Bell Ringing, a program of St. Martin's Guild. 
• Kemp and Simon discuss the challenges of ringing long lengths, and particularly ultra-peals that push the boundaries of ringing. (See, for instance 20064 spliced surprise maximus or 210 minor methods all-the-work.)
• Finally, an update on St. John's, Hanley. Followed by another update: they have a home!

Thank you, friends.

• In this double-length episode we hear about ringing at Kent School spanning seven decades, from the ringers themselves. They are:
  • Alex "Sandy" Taft, Jr., class of 1962;
  • Andy Deganahl, class of 1969;
  • Sidney Kirkpatrick, class of 1974;
  • Ellen Jennings, class of 1991;
  • Adrea Marshall, class of 1993;
  • Alex T. Taft, III, class of 1999;
  • Alice Benjamin, class of 2018;
  • Stella Klingebiel, class of 2019; and
  • Matthew Austin, faculty since 2008.
• This conversation touches on coming to Kent, learning about ringing while at Kent, activities of the ringers' both at Kent and afield, and the future of ringing at Kent.
• Special thanks are due to the previous ringing masters of Kent School: Isaac Atwater (1931-1938), William E. Howard (ca. 1950-1975), David Bailey (1975-1979), and Thomas W. Holcombe (1979-2016). 

And thank you, friends.

• Bryn and Leland are back, together! We briefly talk personal lives, but you can hear much more about their romance and engagement in their episode of Fun With Bells, the other, excellent, change-ringing podcast.
• Mainly we discuss Ringing Room: its birth and growth through its first year, its best use and misconceptions about its use, and how its use will help us even as we get back into our towers.
• Leland and Bryn describe some new features coming in the spring of 2021, and even field a pitch from their pushy host. (Who needs the suggested feature much more than they!)
• [Do please take a moment to look at their one-year anniversary survey, to provide feedback on your successes and hangups on Ringing Room, and consider financially supporting the running of Ringing Room's servers either by donating directly or by supporting their Patreon.]
• Finally, we catch up with what Bryn and Leland have been ringing, when they're not busy making it possible for so many of us to do so.

Thank you, friends.

• Kemp Brinson of Winter Haven, Florida, is back!
• This time he's interviewing Pip Penney of the Llandaff and Monmouth Association, in Wales. Pip, creator of the Association of Ringing Teachers, discusses the genesis of the ART, creating instructional videos, how to get a ringer past a hurdle that seems to have them hung up, and describes a program for developing ropesight.
• Finally, Pip and I catch up to discuss breaking bad habits, distracting learners, and physical aptitude.

Thank you, friends.

• Our guest host is Kemp Brinson. Again! Making room for our guest: Matthew Austin.
• We discuss the genesis of Treble's Going, and how Laveita Brinson and Debbie Austin got us to this point.
• We run through some of our favorite episodes of the year and what we loved about them: Michael Tartell on Viruses (ep.21), Fr. Alban Riley on Ringing in Community (ep.15), Marjorie Winter Part I and Part II (eps.18 & 20), Linda Woodford on Bellhanging (ep.14), John Bihn on Conducting His First Quarter Peal (ep.9), and Candace Higginbotham on Starting a Band (ep.16).
• Along the way we also talk about the goals for Treble's Going, interviewing strangers, how episodes are produced, and parallels between classroom teaching and producing a podcast.
• Finally: enjoy meeting all the people behind the scenes who make this show come to life. And thank Kemp Brinson, once again, for stepping in to host.

Thank you for listening, friends.

• This is the second half of an interview Kemp Brinson conducted with Pip Penney; you can find the first half of the interview in episode 28.
• Kemp and I discuss our shared progress in Ringing Room and how our moms' interests led to our (eventual) ringing. (Happy Mother's Day!)
• Then Pip and Kemp discuss the origin of ART certification, ways to better encourage younger ringers, and thoughts on the future of ringing.
• Finally, Pip and I share some more thoughts on young ringers, and we get the full story of how Pip came to ringing as an adult.

Episode 31 will feature Mark Davies, author of Methodoku Mayhem. If you have not tried solving methodoku yet, you can find a brief introduction and some to try here.

Thank you, friends.

• Mark Davies is a ringer at Cheltenham Minster, of the Gloucester and Bristol Association. Mark is also a prolific peal composer and constructor of methods. See Rapid Wrap Major, Snow Tiger Maximus, or the "Mythical Beasts" project, for instance.
• While we discuss ringing for a bit, much of our conversation is about Methodokus: the style of ringing(-inspired) puzzles that Mark invented last year. If you have not seen them in Ringing World, a few can be found in an earlier post at treblesgoing.com, or you can find many in the book Methodoku Mayhem.
• Mark has also uploaded "Methodoku Masterclass" videos on his YouTube channel, if you would like more-directed advice on solving Methodokus. (You can also find there a video of his presentation to the North American Guild, which we mention during this discussion.)

Thank you, friends.

• Today's episode is excerpted from a panel discussion at the April 2021 Seven Towers Festival, featuring Porter Brownlee, David Graves, Remica Gray, and Meredith Morris.
• We discuss the much-debated, now documented (see below), genesis of the festival; the payoffs and pitfalls of running a festival; and why Alan Regin's left out.
• You should come to the April 2022 Seven Towers Festival--watch The Clapper or the NAG website for upcoming details!

Thank you, friends.

• Steve Coleman is a ringer in the Gloucester and Bristol (G&B) Association, author of many articles and books, and impetus behind the G&B Summer and Winter Schools.
• Steve's books are chock-full of useful advice and helpful hints, and he will be back in a future episode to discuss them. If you haven't yet come across them and want a copy, just head to ringingbooks.co.uk.
• He's also written dozens of articles for The Ringing World. Two he recommends to your historical interest are "The Sight of A Gentle Maiden Deftly Handling a Rope," chapters 1 and 5, found at No. 5147 (18-25 Dec 2009) pp. 1267-8 and at No. 5167 (7 May 2010) pp. 470-2.
• Mostly, though, we talk about the August 2020 Summer School and January 2021 Winter School: the genesis of the schools, the sessions offered, their reception, and their future prospects. Those interested in more information on either of the past schools or on 2021's Summer School should email Steve directly: steve@ringingbooks.co.uk.
• Finally, Steve mentions how wonderfully he has enjoyed Ringing Room during lockdowns. If you haven't yet heard them, know that episodes 4 and 27 of this podcast both feature Bryn and Leland, the creators of Ringing Room, discussing their project's birth (episode 4) and its first year (episode 27).

Thank you, friends.

• Bryn Reinstadler is a ringer and conductor from Boston, co-creator of Ringing Room, and has twice previously appeared on Treble's Going to discuss MIT's Interterm Activity Period course on change ringing (May 2020) and Ringing Room's first birthday (March 2021, with Leland Kuzmer).
• This time, Bryn's here to discuss her forthcoming book on calling and conducting: Calling it Round. We discuss learning to call and conduct, some of the "softer" skills of bandleading, and what it's been like to return to ringing in person with full bands.
• Calling It Round grew out of Bryn's work on the Achieving Gender Balance in Ringing workgroup of the Central Council. Articles describing their work product can be found in many issues of Ringing World through 2020. Bryn especially recommends to your attention the Special Issue on Women in Ringing, no. 5716 of 13 November 2020 (requires subscription and Bellboard login).

Thank you, friends.

• Joan Hutchinson is a ringer variously of Smith College, Boston, Philadelphia, New Hampshire, Smith College, Minnesota, and Colorado. While Joan has plenty of tower experience, Whitechapel Handbells are her first ringing love.
• We discuss ringing in hand and in tower, starting and maintaining groups associated with schools and universities, and the movement of sets of handbells around the continent.
• Joan briefly worked with Bill Theobald, of Whitechapel--previous guests Linda Woodford (episode 014) and Sidney Kirkpatrick (episode 026) also worked with Bill, and share stories of his mentorship. Likewise, Joan's story crosses paths with both Sarah Moriarty (episode 008) and Marj Winter (episode 018 and episode 020) through Smith College.
• These days, Joan can be found ringing with the Minneapolis handbell band, thanks to Ringing Room. (Stan's ringing a bit, too, but may be too busy inventing new puzzles and methods with Mark Davies, of episode 031.)

Thank you, friends.