Dr. Gordon Harvey is a Professor of history at Jacksonville State University.  He is also a seasoned ultra runner with dozens of finishes under his belt.  He has a pendant that says, "Memento mori and memento vivere" - Remember that you must die, and remember to live.

Gordon joins The Nation to talk about his recent experience training and running the Pinhoti 100.  This was a race to prove that his first 100-mile finish wan't a "fluke".  But there were obstacles and set backs in his training, including a heart attack and surgery less than one year before the race.  Gordon shares his not-so-unique story with us and helps us understand and cope with the process and the result.

Read more about his Pinhoti 100 journey HERE

Be sure to sign up for a 30-day free trial of Open, a mindfulness studio by going to Open-together/trn and using the code TRN

Welcome to a new episode of Trail Runner Nation, the podcast that explores the sport of trail running and beyond. In this grab bag episode, we have our good friend Andy Jones-Wilkins, a frequent contributor over the years and host of the new "Crack a Brew with AJW" podcast. Season 2 of his podcast will be starting soon.  Don't miss an episode.  If you haven't listened to season 1, check out the great discussions he has with RD, Craig Thornley, Jim Walmsley, Anton Krupicka, Courtney Dauwalter, Ellie Greenwood, Nikki Kimball and Arlan Glick!

In this episode, we ask Andy what he learned from his first season.  He drops hints to his season 2 guests.  We also delve into various topics that are related to running and life. We talk about the Cactus Roulette, a crazy race at Clinton Lake State Park in Lawrence, Kansas.  Also mentioned is the resource book Fixing Your Feet by John Vonhof now in its 7th Edition.  Check out his website.  Find out why Andy and Don owe Scott a HUGE apology!

So whether you're a seasoned trail runner or a newbie, this episode has something for everyone. So grab your favorite beverage and tune in to Trail Runner Nation, where we explore the trails and the many paths that life can take us.

Emily Halnon joins The Nation this week. She is a trail runner and mountain athlete from Eugene, Oregon. Emily shares her awe-inspiring journey of setting the Fastest Known Time (FKT) on the 460-mile Oregon section of the Pacific Crest Trail (PCT). Driven by the desire to honor her late mother, Andrea, who inspired her to start running, Emily talks about the mental and physical preparation required for such a formidable challenge. She tells her story in the new book, To the Gorge - Running, Grief, Resilience, & 460 Miles on the Pacific Crest Trail. She highlights the importance of having a strong ‘why,’ a supportive crew, and the deep connection she felt with her mother throughout the run. Emily discusses the profound impact of running on processing emotions and healing through grief, emphasizing the vital role of community, pacers, and crew in providing emotional support. Join us as Emily explores the significance of embracing the unknown, pushing through difficult moments, and the powerful growth that comes from these experiences. You can follow Emily on Instagram

We mentioned the charity that Emily supported on her adventure Brave Like Gabe.

Find out more about this episode's sponsors:

• Janji
• Arc'teryx 
• Ketone IQ

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Regardless of your age, all of us are getting older.  Do nutritional needs change as we age? 

As trail runners, we know the incredible impact that nutrition can have on our performance. But as we age, our bodies undergo changes that require a more strategic and mindful approach to fueling ourselves for the long run. That's why, in this episode, we dive deep into the fascinating world of longevity nutrition strategies, focusing on those specifically designed for the aging athlete.  Returning TRN friend, Bob Seebohar, helps us uncover some strategies.

Here is the link to the study Bob mentions about Daily Energy Expenditure Through the Human Life Course

Bob developed the groundbreaking Metabolic Efficiency training approach, which helps athletes to optimize their nutrition and fueling strategies to achieve their performance goals. He has also authored several books on sports nutrition, including "Nutrition Periodization for Endurance Athletes" and "Metabolic Efficiency Training: Teaching the Body to Burn More Fat".

Bob Seebohar is a board certified specialist in sports dietetics, exercise physiology, and an NSCA certified strength and conditioning coach.  He is also the sports dietitian for the University of Denver women's gymnastic team and the University of Denver Athletics Department.

If you want to learn more about Bob and his services including his books, articles, coaching services, nutrition and more, visit ENRGPERFORMANCE.  He is also the co-host of the podcast Inside Sports Nutrition with Dina Griffin.

Check out the tasty healthy snacks he invented at All-Around Snack Company.

He has been on TRN a couple other times including these great episodes:

EP 517: Eat to Train 
EP 583: TRAINING PRINCIPLES - Nutrition 
EP 598: Intermittent Fasting- Will it Help or Hinder our Performance? 
EP 612: The Science of Creatine and Brain Function for Athletes

We all have multiple identities - Mom, brother, friend, scientist, comedian, bowler, runner, writer, etc. Some of these identities come by choice, by chance or forced upon us. They may change over time too. We are the sum of these identities. They help us learn and grow. We should celebrate them in our own lives and within those around us. One of the best parts of trail running is to learn about the identities of others on a run.

In this episode we talk to Kim Strom. We learn about some of her identities:

• Running model (appearing on the cover of Trail Runner Magazine more than any other person)
• A Photographer
• A Writer
• A Trail Runner
• Her newest identity - cancer patient

Check out this collective: alpsinsight.com

Photo Swiss Alps and by PatitucciPhoto

Have you ever been told, you are heel striking, you shouldn't do that!  You need to land on your forefoot or midfoot!  And after trying, became frustrated and given up?

Today we are going to speak with an expert on gait, balance and stability to understand how you can improve your core balance and stability that then will help you run more efficiently.

Danny Abshire is a veteran running coach and injury expert. He is the cofounder of Newton Running, a startup running shoe manufacturer specializing in shoes that promote an efficient midfoot/forefoot running gait. He has been making advanced footwear for runners and triathletes for more than 20 years.  He wrote the book, Natural Running: The Simple Path to Stronger, Healthier Running

Be sure to check out his new Active 88 shoes and the AI Imprint customizable insoles

What is the toughest race in the world?   According to The Nxorth, the Arrowhead 135 is a strong contender. With an average finish rate below 50%, Race Director Ken Krueger and his team have crafted an event that’s as grueling as it is rooted in old-school camaraderie and a close-knit, family-like community.

Finishers Bob Crowley and Terry Fletcher share their preparation strategies, gear tips, and experiences battling both the elements and their own limits. The discussion covers crucial topics like mental toughness, cold-weather clothing strategies, and dealing with physical challenges like blisters and trench foot. They also highlight the strong sense of community among racers and how enduring such harsh conditions fosters deep camaraderie. Listeners will gain insights into the race’s selective application process, its unique draw for returning participants, and how events like these promote personal growth and self-discovery.

Check out

• Bob's VIDEO from his experience in 2025 
• History Expeditions and their YouTube Channel

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Returning guest and renowned physical therapist Jay Dicharry returns to unravel the truths and myths around stretching, mobility, and shoe selection for runners. Jay sheds light on the debate between static and dynamic stretching, highlighting how dynamic stretching can better prepare runners for performance and injury prevention. He distinguishes between flexibility (passive) and mobility (active control), emphasizing that mobility training, joint stability, and motor control are crucial for long-term success in distance running. The conversation also explores footwear’s role, with insights into the benefits and risks of minimal and super shoes and how each type can impact running biomechanics. Jay encourages runners to focus on strength and mobility exercises to support muscle mass, bone density, and efficient movement. Runners will leave with actionable tips to improve their range of motion, prevent injury, and make informed choices about stretching and footwear for their unique needs.

• Check out this video Jay produced on the MASTERCLASS on Super Shoes For Runners
• By his 2nd edition of his amazing book, Running Rewired: Reinvent Your Run for Stability, Strength, and Speed, 2nd Edition
• Find out more about Jay and his services at An Athlete's Body
• Get 10% off a Mobo Board HERE

Episode Sponsors:

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• Ketone IQ
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In this episode, Coach David Roche delves into his record-breaking performance at the 2024 Leadville 100, sharing insights into his unique approach to training, racing, and pushing personal limits. David discusses the importance of embracing failure as a pathway to success, maintaining a strong mindset, and never giving in to the urge to hike aka "Never Hike" mantra.. He also offers practical advice on nutrition strategies, including the use of liquid gels and conditioning the stomach for endurance racing. Beyond the physical aspects, David emphasizes the psychological challenges of ultrarunning, the significance of the "pain cave," and the incredible power of love and support from the running community. He concludes with reflections on the lessons he's learned as a coach and his deep gratitude for the opportunity to inspire others through his running journey.

Listen to David and Megan's podcast episode about his race at Some Work, All Play

Check out more about their coaching services at SWAPrunning

Find out more about this episode's sponsor: Janji

We also mentioned  Magic Mind in this episode.  You can get up to 48% off your first subscription or 20% off a one-time purchase with code TRN20 at checkout.  Use this link: Magid Mind

AND!!!!!  Check out the new free app we developed, Trail Triage

photo credit: Cody Bare

Learn more about Adam by checking out his web site and his coaching site, Run On Dirt Coaching.
Adam's social channels: Instagram, Twitter, Facebook

Author, Nutritionist, endurance athlete and coach, Matt Fitzgerald, joins the Nation to talk about what motivates us and how to train our brain to push our limits to a higher level.  In his new book, "How Bad Do you Want It: Mastering the Psychology of Mind Over Muscle", he relates exciting stories of athletes that have pushed beyond their mental limits to achieve extraordinary results.   As Matt relates what recent studies in neuroscience has taught us and how we can incorporate that into our training.  This is all woven into a dozen heart-pounding stories of endurance athletes.

Over the last few years, there have been a surprising increase in the number of films about trail running.  These films help capture the culture of our sport.  Film-maker, Myles Smythe and film festival organizer, Robert Rhodes join The Nation to speak about this phenomenon.  We are also graced by the always entertaining whit and wisdom of ultra running's only Andy Jones-Wilkins.

Join your trail tribe at an upcoming screening at one of the many Trails in Motion events.

Treat yourself to This Is Your Day, by Myles Smyth.  If you enter the coupon code, WeAreNation, you will receive a discount.

Join AJW at the Thomas Jefferson 100K on March 12, 2016

How does the foot arch function in running? How does the big toe play a crucial role in foot health and running efficiency?

Dr. Matthew Silver returns to The Nation to answer these questions and help us understand practical ways to activate and strengthen our arches, shedding light on how different shoe types—especially the trend of high-stacked shoes—impact our feet over time. This episode will help you make smarter choices for long-term running performance .

Dr. Matthew Silver, physical therapist and author of Built to Run: The Runner’s Guide to Fixing Common Injuries, Resolving Pain, and Optimizing Running Performance Now and For Life

Check out Dr. SIlver's website to sign up for his newsletter and for more information or consultation: Alpha Project Phyzio and Performance

Here is the link to Barefoot Science orthotics that Matt talked about

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• AquaTru: use code TRAILRUNNER for up to 20% off any water purifier
• Trail Runner Nation's Trail Triage app

We posted a video on April 9th about Josh Spector's experience running his first 135-mile race, The Brazil 135.  To date it has had over 2 Million views - because it is that good!  Josh's first 135-mile run was on an unfamiliar course in a foreign country,  he talks to us about the difference between 100-milers and running 135 miles, how to prepare yourself for running in a foreign country, and how to enjoy the journey.

Josh is currently training for the grueling Badwater 135 this summer.

Josh's Blog, Twitter, and Facebook

Take the Tailwind Challenge at: Tailwind Nutrition   

Check out the cool headlamps made for trail running at Petzl

Ellie Greenwood elaborates on a few recent articles she wrote in Ultrarunning Magazine:

Reigniting Your Passion, November 2018

Finding Gratitude in Slower Times, September 2019

Band of Runners, November 2019

In 2022, we will be doing a monthly episode focused on Training Principles.  In this episode, we start with the principle of Quality Training.

We have invited four experts to give their take on quality training:

Sally McRae: strength training = injury prevention
Sally's Web site

Patrick Reagan: disciplined recovery runs
Patrick's coaching site

Adam Kimble: variety
Adam's coaching site

Ian Sharman: have a purpose
Ian's coaching site

TRN regular and running guru, Dr. Mark Cucuzzella joins The Nation to do a brief recap of this years Freedoms Run, a race he has directed for the past 8 years.  We then talk about the "pendulum swinging back to minimalist shoes" and how it is important to have good running form.

Check out the 3 Efficient Running Training Modules that Dr. Mark and the U.S. Air Force created.

• Here is the most popular 8:26-minute running video that demonstrates proper running form.
• Here is the Coach's Eye APP that Dr. Cucuzzella talked about.
• Here is the blog post, "Two Week Running Natural Running Tour of Duty", that was discussed.
• Here is more information about Amazing Correct Toes available at Two Rivers Treads

Don't forget to check out

The Natural Running Center

Get some shoe advice and buy some shoes at Two Rivers Treads or call them at 855.878.7323

How does Killian Jornet train?  Scott Johnston, a world class athlete and experienced coach teams up with two of the world's most experienced mountain athletes to help teach us the keys to training. Training the Uphill Athlete is the new book by Scott, Steve House and Killian Jornet.  Scott discusses the keys to training for endurance and mountain performance.

Check out their website, Uphill Athlete, is a great resource of knowledge with over 240 articles, coaching, training plans, etc.

Drop bags are a crucial tool for ultra runners, serving as lifelines that ensure access to essential items like hydration, nutrition, and comfort gear during long races.

TRN friend and regular guest, Krissy Moehl and Kelly Kelly Swanson join our virtual run today to discuss the use of drop bags in ultra running. Kelly is the co-host of a new podcast, Drop Bag, and creator of the Ultraplanner, a tool that can help you organize your next ultra adventure or race. They explore the logistics and planning required, sharing personal anecdotes and lessons learned from their experiences as runners and race directors. The conversation highlights the importance of preparation, including packing essential items like hydration, nutrition, and comfort items that can enhance a runner’s experience. They delve into the challenges of race-day adaptability, particularly when drop bags don’t arrive as expected, and offer practical tips on labeling, weatherproofing, and lightening the load for volunteers. The hosts also emphasize the emotional aspects of racing, such as carrying sentimental items for motivation and creating connections within the running community. This episode underscores the value of preparation, humor, and giving back, all while fostering camaraderie among runners.

Krissy and Kelly have put together a great book bundle that includes:
- "Run Your First Ultra" by Krissy Moehl
- "Ultraplanner" by Kelly Swanson
- Performance Enhancing Kokopelli tattoos from Trail Runner Nation
- Stickers from Drp Bag Podcast and Salty Britches

Episode Sponsors:

• Janji, Use code TRAILRUNNER for 10% off Black Friday, Janji is offering 40% off sitewide through Sunday December 1
• Shokz, Use code TRN10 for 10% off Special BOGO special during Black Friday
• HUEL, 15% off with code TRAIL
• Trail Runner Nation's Trail Triage app

A week after the 2017 Bigfoot 200 Endurance Race, we look back at the race from a few different perspectives:

• Finisher, Don Freeman (finishing in 23rd)
• Race Director, Candice Burt
• 200-mile virgin, Bob Crowley - who is registered for the 2017 Tahoe 200!!!!!
• Crewman, Scott Warr

This is the second of our series of episodes called "Endurance off the Trail" where we dive deep into the world of endurance sports outside of trail running. Our mission? To uncover the similarities we share and the differences that set us apart. We believe that by exploring the nuances of other endurance disciplines, we can enrich our own experiences on the trail.

In this episode, Liz Stephen, a former Nordic skier and Olympian, joins The Nation to discuss her transition from alpine skiing to Nordic skiing and her current involvement in coaching high school kids. Liz shares her experiences in both sports and highlights the similarities and differences between them. She emphasizes the importance of community and the welcoming nature of the Nordic skiing and trail-running communities. Liz also talks about the physical demands of Nordic skiing and the need for strength and power in the sport. She encourages trail runners to consider incorporating strength training into their routines for better overall performance and injury prevention. We also talk about Liz's love for being in the mountains and her appreciation for the beauty and possibilities they offer.

But an athlete's heart never rests! Transitioning from the icy tracks to rugged terrains, Liz embraced trail racing, competing in challenging distances like 64K and 40 miles. Join us as we journey through Liz's remarkable career and discover how her skiing experiences shaped her trail-running endeavors.

Check out this VIDEO of Liz at the Tour de Ski, Val di Fiemme

Michelle Barton and Warren Pole join The Nation as guest writers for this new installment of the Audio Magazine.

Here are some links to what we discussed:

• Warren's Ted Talk he referenced: David Epstein, "Are athletes really getting faster, better, stronger?"
• 1904 Olympic Marathon
• "More Efficient Sleep" by Warren Pole
• Is A Lack of Sleep Before a Race Really A Bad Thing?
• Running on No Sleep

On the evening of two of the most popular 100-mile race lotteries (Western States 100 and Hardrock 100),  Andy Jones-Wilkins and Craig Thornley (race director) join the Nation to discuss the mystic and draw of Western States 100, the new 2015 qualifying standards, "micro competitions", the future of ultrarunning, and how to maintain longevity in the sport.

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Check out the cool headlamps made for trail running at Petzl

Recently, our friend and trail culture advocate, Bob Crowley, was appointed as President of ITRA, International Trail Running Association.  Bob helps The Nation understand more about this little known organization that we SHOULD know about and support.  ITRA's values mirror our shared values of authenticity, humility, fair play, respect, solitary, and teamwork.  Not only can it represent our collective voice, but can help race directors and individuals alike.  The basic membership is free so please sign up to strengthen our voice and protect our culture.

Keira Henninger is a Mom, elite ultra-runner, race director, nutritionist, coach and amateur chef.  Whew! 

She joins The Nation to talk about her struggle, diagnosis and recovery from adrenal fatigue.  You can read more about her story HERE.  She praises her Doctor, Dr. Alex Tuggle for listening and showing her a path to repairing her adrenal glands and return to the activity level she loves.

Find out more about 

Divas & Dudes Running Club

Women's Trail Running & Nutrition

Join her at one of her many RACES

We all are part of The Nation. What does that mean. How does The Nation look? What gear do we use? There have been a few surveys conducted in 2022 that help us understand.

• Check out the ITRA Survey
• ATRA also conducted a Survey

We encourage you to check out all of our partners and their excellent products and services.  A new one we want to make you aware of is Wonderful Pistachios.  It might be your newest and favorite trail snack.

Dr. Maffetone teaches us that

• the brain's role is often overlooked in training and racing,
• how to improve brain function through biofeedback stimulation, and
• how to develop and maintain a better athletic brain.

Buy Dr. Phil Maffetone's Big Book of Endurance Training and Running

Buy The Big Book of Health and Fitness

Previous Podcast with Dr. Maffetone:

• Speed up by Slowing Down
• Eat to Win
• Transcription of Eat to Win

Take the Tailwind Challenge at: Tailwind Nutrition   

Check out the cool headlamps made for trail running at Petzl

Don and Scott review the podcasts from 2019 and the many amazing guests that have joined us and helped us become better, smarter, more efficient runners.  What were your favorite gold nuggets?

Are the diet myths you’ve believed holding you back from peak performance, or could eating more actually be the key to running stronger and feeling better?

In this episode, Zoë Rom and Kylee Van Horn, creators of the podcast Your Diet Sucks, explore the critical role of nutrition in endurance sports. They discuss common diet myths, the importance of individualized nutrition, and the impact of social media on body image and eating disorders among athletes. The conversation highlights why fueling for performance should take priority over aesthetics, the pitfalls of restrictive dieting, and the value of listening to your body. They also touch on food justice, the role of organic food, and the evolving science of recovery nutrition. With their journalism and sports nutrition background, they’re on a mission to simplify nutrition, promote a healthier relationship with food, and debunk the noise surrounding endurance athletes’ diets.

Zoë Rom is an award-winning journalist and ultra-runner with a master’s in environmental journalism and author of Becoming a Sustainable Runner. Kylee Van Horn is a registered dietitian and founder of Fly Nutrition, specializing in helping athletes fuel for performance and challenge harmful dietary norms in sports. Her new book, Practical Fueling for Endurance Athletes: Your Nutrition Guide for Optimal Performance is available for preorder and release on March 3, 2025. Both are amazing trail runners who talk our language.

Episode Sponsors:

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• INFERNO by Running Scared Media. BOGO with Promo Code Holiday
• Liquid IV, get 20% off your first order with code TRAILRUNNER
• Tifosi Optics 20% off with code TRN20
• Trail Runner Nation's Trail Triage app

In this episode, we play a game of "brilliant" or "bullshit" based on ten essential skills or knowledge areas that our "guest", Chat GPT, feels that every trail runner must know.  Topics include embracing mud, barefoot running, hydration timing, and the value of technical gear, complemented by personal anecdotes and insights. The conversation highlights balancing technology with intuition, the benefits of walking technical sections, and the freedom to personalize nutrition. We also explore evolving views on stretching and the philosophy of racing oneself rather than competing with others, offering valuable takeaways for runners of all levels.

Episode Sponsors:

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• Tifosi Optics 20% off with code TRN
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• FREE! Trail Runner Nation's Trail Triage app

Dr. Mark Cucuzzella joins us again to discuss:

• Running a 50 mile run on minimal training
• Racing for fun without stress
• The Magic of Human Facia
• Foam Rolling

For more incredible information, go to the Natural Running Center

Watch the 8:26 Video of efficient running

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What if we told you that putting yourself in controlled, uncomfortable situations—like ice baths, fasting, or extreme endurance events—could make you a better runner and a better human?

In this episode of Trail Runner Nation, Don and Scott explore the science and strategy of discomfort, challenging the idea that comfort is always the goal. They discuss how modern “comfort culture” may actually be dulling our resilience, while ancient traditions, military training, and endurance sports all use discomfort as a tool for mental and physical growth. Ice baths become a central metaphor for controlled suffering—revealing how pain and discomfort, when approached intentionally, can lead to enhanced focus, discipline, and personal transformation.

We break down the difference between pain and discomfort, sharing stories and science that show how embracing the latter can sharpen performance and mindset. We also reflect on how community support can strengthen our ability to endure, and how this mental training often matters just as much as the physical. If you’re ready to rethink the role of suffering in your training—and your life—this conversation will help you turn discomfort into your greatest asset.

Episode Sponsors:

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• Oikos Triple Zero
• FREE! Trail Runner Nation's Trail Triage app

Dive into the Thrilling World of Ultra Running with Historian Davy Crockett! Join hosts us in an exhilarating journey through the untold history and fascinating evolution of ultra marathons. Discover the legendary races that shaped the sport: from the historic Comrades Marathon to the enigmatic Barkley Marathons. Learn about the earliest ultra runners, their unique mindset, and how their challenges differ from those faced by today's athletes. 

Explore the global impact of ultra running, featuring stories from the Redwood Indian Marathon that showcased Native American excellence, and the JFK 50's evolution from a boys club event to America's oldest ultra race. 

This episode isn't just about endurance – it's a journey into the heart of ultra running, revealing the allure, history, and soul of this incredible sport. Whether you're a seasoned runner or a casual listener, there's something for everyone in this captivating conversation. Don't miss out on these extraordinary tales that bring the world of ultra marathons to life! 

About Davy

• David "Davy" R. Crockett, a veteran ultrarunner since 2004
• has completed over a hundred 100-mile races. 
• He combined his running passion with history by organizing the "Pony Express Trail 50 and 100" in Utah 
• launched ultrarunninghistory.com and the Ultrarunning History Podcast in 2018. 
• As the Director of the American Ultrarunning Hall of Fame since 2020, Crockett has authored several books on ultrarunning history and 19th-century American westward migration. 
UltraRunninghistory.com
Crockettclan.org/blog

Other Ultrarunning History Series books:

1. Frank Hart: The First Black Ultrarunning Star
2. Grand Canyon Rim to Rim History
3. Strange Running Tales: When Ultrarunning was a Reality Show
4. Running 100 Miles: Part One - A History (1729-1960)
5. Running 100 Miles: Part Two - A History (1761-1976)
6. Running 100 Miles: Part Three - A History (1977-1979)
7. Classic Ultramarathon Beginnings: The Barkley Marathons, Comrades Marathon, London to Brighton, JFK 50, Spartathlon, and others

Find out more about this episode's sponsors:

• Janji
• HVMN
• AG1
• LMNT

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With few races being held it takes creativity to create your own challenge. In this episode we talk to a few runners that did just that.

Mike Foote and Rob Krar set an amazing FKT on a Grand Canyon R2R2R crossing in the frigid temps of December 31, which included a naked swim across the Colorado River TWICE! You can see their video HERE. You can find out more about Rob's camp and coaching HERE. You can check out Mike's mountain races at The Rut or at The Runner's Edge.

But you don't have to be so elaborate in your planning to have an adventure. Cory Reese shows us that it just takes a simple idea. His challenge was a 23-mile route connecting all eight Mavericks (convenience store) around his town with the added challenge of eating something unhealthy at each! You can find Cory each month in Ultrarunning Magazine as a columnist and check out his book, Nowhere Near First:Ultramarathon Adventures From The Back of the Pack

• Why Cyclists Can Handle Heat Better than Runners
• New Data on How Your Arm Swing Affects Running
• Do Endurance Athletes Get More Cavities?

Alex Hutchinson is an avid runner and author.  We did a series of podcasts on his book, Endure: Mind, Body and the Curiously Elastic Limits of Human Performance. Previous Podcasts where we discuss the specific chapters of Endure:

• Podcast #1:   The Unforgiving Minute, The Conscience Quitter, Heat, Belief
• Podcast #2: The Central Governor Theory, Pain and Training the Brain
• Podcast #3 : Oxygen, Fuel, and Zapping the Brain

Check out Alex’s other books:

• Which Comes First, Cardio or Weights?: Fitness Myths, Training Truths, and Other Surprising Discoveries from the Science of Exercise
• Big Ideas: 100 Modern Inventions That Have Transformed Our World
• What Defines our Limits - with Alex Hutchinson

Follow Alex on Twitter
Check out Sweat Science

Are you fueling your endurance training the right way—or are outdated carb myths holding you back? In this episode, we’re joined by sports dietitian Bob Seebohar to explore the evolving science behind carbohydrate consumption in endurance sports. We discuss how nutrition periodization, metabolic flexibility, and gut training can transform both performance and recovery. Bob challenges the one-size-fits-all approach to sports nutrition, emphasizing the need for personalized plans that align with each athlete’s physiology and goals. From managing GI distress to optimizing glycogen storage and understanding blood sugar dynamics, this conversation dives deep into how and when to use carbs for peak athletic output. 

Here is the LINK to the new research we mentioned.

Check out these links too:

• All Around Snack Co.
• 3rd Edition of Bob's book
  • on Amazon Metabolic Efficiency Training: Teaching the Body to Burn More Fat
  • on Bob's site Metabolic Efficiency Training: Teaching the Body to Burn More Fat
• Bob's Web site: Enrg Performance
• Inside Sports Nutrition Podcast

Episode Sponsors:

• Janji, Use code TRAILRUNNER for 10% off
• Peluva, 15% off with code TRAILRUNNER
• Liquid IV, get 20% off your first order with code TRAILRUNNER
• Wonderful Pistachios
• Oikos Triple Zero
• FREE! Trail Runner Nation's Trail Triage app

Ultrarunner, Caleb Simpson joins The Nation to discuss CBD Oil and how it might hold some benefits for you as a runner.  There are many incorrect perceptions and understandings about this cousin to marijuana, but there are some key differences that may get you to consider an experiment of one.

Key facts:

• It is not derived from marajuana plants
• It cannot get you high
• It contains <0.3%THC
• It is legal in all 50 US States
• It is not a banned substance by athletic organizations

Learn more at HempDaddys

Get 10% off your first order with code, "TRN"

Ian Sharman, Liza Howard, Hillary Allen and Addie Bracy  are all excellent technical trail runners and share their knowledge with us.

Learn more about mental training at Addie's web site: strivementalperformance.com

or her new book, Mental Training for Ultrarunning: Your Psychological Skills for Ultra Success

FInd out more about Hillary Allen HERE

Find out more about Liza Howard HERE

Check out Liza's great camp for veterans and their families HERE

The Nation goes rogue and kicks it game show style.  We adapt the 1970's game show, "100,000 Pyramid" to create a trail running version.  Join Andy Jones-Wilkins, Carilyn Johnson, Warren Pole and Sally McRae as they go head to head giving and guessing trail running lingo.  We may have pulled some laughing muscles on this one.

You can also watch the video of the game show HERE.

Anton has come off a busy year of running and training culminating in the release of the Joel Wolpert film, "In the High Country".  (A MUST have $15 purchase)

Tony talks about:

• his mountain running life-style and philosophy
• running form - efficient and quick
• making the movie
• his Nolan's 14 adventure
• running and racing in Europe

HERE is the link to the first of three videos about Tony's attempt at Nolan's 14 this summer

HERE is the link to one of our favorite videos of Tony running.

HERE is the link to his Blog, "Riding the Wind"

The Ultra Trail Du Mont Blanc (UTMB) has become one of the world's most desired races.  Why?

This race series lasts from August 28th - September 3rd (2017) and offers many different race distances with breathtaking views.

UTMB veteran and podium finishing Tim Toloffson and Sally McRae join The Nation to discuss this amazing race.

• Mandatory Gear List
• Sign up for Tim & Sally's coach, Mario Fraioli's "Morning Shakeout"

In this episode, Nation friend and renowned ultra runner Krissy Moehl talks about her recent race at the High Lonesome 100. Krissy shares her experience running the challenging 100-mile race after a six-year hiatus from 100 milers and discusses her mindset as an aging athlete. She talks about the importance of accepting and embracing her body's changes and finding joy in the process. Krissy also reflects on the support and community surrounding ultra running and the lessons she learned from this race. In this conversation, She also talks about the importance of being aware of one's body and making intentional decisions to maintain long-term health and continue running. Krissy expresses her curiosity about the changes in her body as she goes through perimenopause and her desire to explore the topic further.

Takeaways

• Accept and embrace your body's changes as an aging athlete
• Find joy in the process of running and racing
• Seek support and surround yourself with a supportive community
• Don't be afraid to ask for help and accept assistance during races
• Appreciate the contributions and impact of others in helping you achieve your goals The Leadville Trail 100 Run has a well-organized race organization and takes pride in its initiatives, such as gender equality and non-binary inclusion.
• The whiskey tradition at the race is sponsored by Laws Whiskey House, and the whiskey bottles are given to finishers as a symbol of accomplishment.
• As an aging athlete, Krissy is curious about the changes in her body and how perimenopause affects her running and overall health.
• Making intentional decisions to prioritize long-term health and maintain muscle mass is important for aging athletes.
• Endurance events provide transformative experiences and allow individuals to connect with nature and appreciate the beauty of the surroundings.

Shame on you if you don't already own a copy of Krissy's book, Running Your First Ultra. Shake of your embarassment and get a copy now!

Find out more about this episode's sponsor:

• Janji

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Dr. Mark Cucuzzella rejoins The Nation to discuss many health and fitness myths.

Make sure you watch his 8:25 Video that show the principles of natural running.

Be sure to spend some time learning at The Natural Running Center web site.

Visit Two Rivers Treads running store either in person or call them and ask them some questions!

Link to the Zero Runner, Dr. Mark spoke about

Link to TrueForm Runner and Training- Dr Mark's favorite gait training machine 

Join TRN and follow Jimmy Dean Freeman as he takes on the original SIX 100-mile runs in the "Orignial Six Hundo Challenge". #O6HC

On June 29, 2014, Jimmy completed the Western States 100 Mile Endurance Run, his second of six 100-mile runs.  Jimmy joins us with his virtual coach, Ian Sharman, to get a race report, discuss recovery for his third race, the Vermont 100 Mile Endurance Run, on July 19-20, 2014.  Ian is well qualified to coach JDF since he is the current record holder for the Grand Slam of Ultra Running, which he set last year.

Follow Jimmy's challenge at #O6HC or @CoachJimmyDean or at Socal Coyotes

To read more about JDF's challenge read here: Six Hundos

You can't run Six 100-mile races without your feet.  Foot Kenetics makes a revolutionary foot care product, RunGoo that can prevent blisters and other body chafage.  Get FREE shipping by using TRN2014 at checkout.

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• Max King's runnning camp
• Sabrina's coaching

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In this episode we speak with Bryce Thatcher, the founder of UltrAspire and a true pioneer in the world of hydration packs.

Bryce has been a runner for over 40 years and has always been fascinated by the intersection of technology and sport. In the early 90s, he noticed a gap in the market for hydration systems that were specifically designed for trail runners. With this in mind, he set out to create the perfect hydration pack that would allow runners to carry everything they needed on their long runs, while still maintaining optimal hydration levels.

Over the years, Bryce's designs have evolved and he has continued to push the boundaries of what is possible in terms of hydration technology. He has introduced innovations like the soft flask, which allows runners to carry their water without the added weight and bulk of traditional water bottles.

Today, Bryce's company, UltrAspire, is a leader in the world of hydration packs and his designs are used by top athletes all over the world. In this episode, we will dive deep into the evolution of the hydration pack and how it has changed the game for trail runners everywhere.

HERE is a video that tells Bryces story very well.

James Lawrence, the Iron Cowboy, joins The Nation to talk about his extraordinary journey in endurance sports, including his world-record-setting Ironman triathlons. James reflects on overcoming early struggles, the transformative power of mindset, and how embracing suffering shaped his resilience. He highlights the importance of community, gratitude, and hope, sharing emotional stories like helping a boy with cerebral palsy complete a triathlon and a profound moment on Mount Kilimanjaro. The conversation explores lessons of mental toughness, personal growth, and parenting, offering inspiration for achieving extraordinary goals. James also shares insights from his new book that hit the market on January 21, Iron Hope, Lessons Learned from Conquering the Impossible.

Check out these links:

• the documentary on Amazon Prime, "Conquer 100: The Iron Cowboy
• Video of James completing one of his most memorable full-triathlon with Dayton Hayward.
• Jame's podcast, The Grit Show
• Follow James on Instagram

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Ashley Walsh rejoins Trail Runner Nation to discuss some common norms that you should question:

1. You don’t have to get faster
2. You don’t need to run long on weekends
3. You don’t need a sponsor
4. You don’t need to apologize for a crappy race on social media

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Check out the cool head TORCHES made for trail running at Petzl

In the shadow of the 2013 Western States 100 mile endurance Run, Scott, Faith and Don talk about the WS100 experience.  What's all the hype?  Is it different than any other run?  We take on the experience of the volunteers, pacers, crew and runner. 

John Kelly is only the 15th person to finish the formidable Barkley Marathons since its creation 24 years ago.  Since then he has finished many of the toughest races in the world including the Laverado Ultra Trail and the Tor des Geant.  Last year John moved from the U.S. to England and began tackling the amazing EU trails.  This spring, before the pandemic, John won the Spine Race, a 268-mile, 39K elevation route following the Pennine Way National Trail in Scotland.  As races were cancelled, John decided to try and break the 31-year-old FKT for the Pennine Way.

We talked to John about his

• successful FKT (subsequently bested by friend, Damian Hall 8 days later)
• What is a Bog?
• His ambitious attempt at the Hartley Slam, named after Mike Hartley, the only person to complete all three of the Rounds consecutively.
• Balance: with training, young family and startup business

Follow John's adventures at RandomForestRunner.com, where he will post a link on how to follow his Grand Round attempt

John is running to raise funds for the Stephen Lawrence Trust, founded to tackle inequality in all forms.  Please consider donating

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Are you looking to begin running?  Are you having trouble with consistent running?  Are you wanting to take your running to a new level?  This episode will help.

Adam Kimble recommended the James Clear Book, Atomic Habits, to us a few months ago.  We read it and realized there are many tools in this book that can help us develop habits that will propel us to becoming better runners.  

Here is the episode where Adam introduced us to the book: EP 541: Improving Performance Through the Aggregation of Marginal Gains

TRN's East Coast Executive Producer, Andy Jones-Wilkins, is the guest author of 3 articles in the fifth edition of TRN's Audio Magazine.  Articles include:

• Run Like Cockroaches
• Under the Bright Shiny Moon
• Do What you Want
• From Rucky Chucky to Kroger's Canteen and all the Places in Between
• Loquacious
• Help! My Ink Won't Let me Sweat
• Get Back to Nature
• Philosophy

Find out more how AJW can be your coach

In 2017, Michael McKnight won the fastest cumulated time for the triple crown of 200-milers, Bigfoot 200, Tahoe 200, & Moab 240.

Last week he set a new Bigfoot 200 record by over 4 ours finishing in 51:33 - 18 hours faster than his first attempt in 2017.  We sit down with Michael and talk about how his training and strategies have changed since 2017.

Brad Kearns was one of the top professional triathletes for nine years.  During that time, he won 30 titles worldwide including an amazing streak of seven victories in a row.  Brad just returned from the Paleo F(x) conference and chats with The Nation about

• Balancing of a rigid training plan and listening to your body.
• Slowing your training down to get more training effect
• Stress hormones
• Sleep
• more

Brad's morning smoothie video

Brad's cold therapy video

Check out the Primal Endurance Podcast

The Primal Endurance book

Primal Blueprint web site

Aid Stations are so important at a race.  They have evolved with trail running over time combining medical help, shelter, therapy, and all-you-can eat buffets. Sarah Lavender-Smith joins us to discuss how they have evolved and how to use them efficiently.

Here is her article that spurred the discussion.

Check out all her newsleter, Colrado Mouintain Running & Living

Check out on of Sarah's fall races, Hanging Flume 50K

We encourage you to check out all of our partners and their excellent products and services.  A new one we want to make you aware of is Wonderful Pistachios.  It might be your newest and favorite trail snack.

We all know that feeling when running starts to feel like a chore rather than a passion. But fear not, because Coach Patrick Reagan is here to share his personal journey of rediscovering his running mojo and provide expert advice on how you can do the same.

Patrick will be sharing his insights into the power of play, the importance of community, and strategies for setting new goals and overcoming setbacks. We'll explore the holistic approach he takes with his clients to reignite their motivation and bring the joy back into their running.

Have you been struggling to find your running mojo or feel like you're in a running rut, this episode is for you. Get ready to be inspired, motivated, and equipped with the tools to reignite that passion for hitting the trails.

Find out more about Patrick and his coaching services at his web site.  

Also check out Patrick's new podcast, the Ultra Wizard Ramble on YouTube.

We mentioned one of Patrick's other hobbies, music.  Stay tuned at the end of the podcast to hear him play.  We also mentioned a past fun episode with Dr. Phil Maffetone, where we hit record with the plan of talking about fitness, but ended up talking about music.  HERE is the link.

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Dr. Stephanie Howe Violett recently finished her PhD in Nutrition & Exercise Physiology at Oregon State.  She has taken her passion of running and transformed it into a career as an exercise physiologist, coach and sports nutritionist.  She joins The Nation to discuss

• How to fuel during a run or race
• Apetite hormones
• Pallet fatigue

She then shares her Simple Rules:

• Eat real food
• Chill out the day before a race
• Be nice

Check out her blog HERE: with some really good recipes

Check out her new Web Page HERE: posts about nutrition and coaching

Endurance by Stephanie HERE

Alyssa Clark recently set a world record for the number of consecutive marathons: 95 marathons in 95 days.  Join us as she explains how this started out as a way to cope with COVID quarantine when she was living in Italy and kept pushing her goal.  We all can learn from her determination, her grit, her passion and love for running.

Learn more about Alyssa:

• Her blog
• Training4adventure.com
• Instagram
• Facebook

In the Northern Hemisphere, we are now approaching the heat of the summer.  Make sure you prepare yourself by listening and learning from a couple people that really know how to train for heat.  Jimmy Dean Freeman, SoCal Coyotes,  joins us with his friend Danny Westergaard.  Danny has run Badwater 6 times and done a triple crossing of Badwater (875 miles).  In seven years, Danny has crossed the Death Valley 16 times!

• How long should it take to become aclimated?
• What strategies work best?
• What advantages will you have if aclimated?

Join ultra runners Jennifer Russo and Megan Eckert to discuss backyard ultras, a niche of ultra trail running. They explain that backyard ultras are last-man-standing races where runners complete a 4.167 mile lap every hour until only one person is remaining. Jennifer holds the world record with 74 yards (308 miles) set last month at Capital Backyard Ultra in Lorton, VA. She beat the previous record of 68 laps set in 2020 by Courtney Dauwalter, while Megan won her first backyard ultra at Saguaro Showdown last month with the 4th highest total "yards" 65. They discuss the unique challenges of these races, the mental fortitude required, and the importance of pacing and strategy. They also highlight the sense of community and camaraderie among participants. Backyard ultras are gaining popularity globally, with more women participating and the yardage increasing. The sport is characterized by its unique format, where runners complete a 4.167-mile loop every hour until they can no longer continue. The mental and physical challenges of the race, including sleep deprivation and hallucinations, make it a unique and intense experience. Crew support is crucial in helping runners stay motivated and get back on the course. 

Find out more about this episode's sponsors:

• Janji
• Tifosi Sunglasses
• Arc'teryx and also join their Strava Challenge!

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The Nation has no geographic boundaries, although it is easy to stay in our own "world".  Today Ultra Runner and Coach, Sondre Amdahl, joins The Nation to educate them on the world of ultra running.  Sondre is an elite runner and coach from Norway.  He recently finished 4th in the Ultra-Trail World Tour (UTWT).  Ian Sharman also joins as co-host to help us understand what this race is.  The Ethics of UTWT are

• Equality in Sports
• Self Respect
• Respect for others and the environment

Author, nutritionist, endurance athlete and coach,MattFitzgerald, joins The Nation again.  Mattrecently competed in the grand daddy of them all, Boston Marathon,again just a few short weeks after completing his first 50-milerace, American River50,  We discuss his transition to 50 and itrolls into what is different between a marathon and 50 miler.

Check out Matt's DQS App.

Here is the link to his latest book, if you haven't read hislatest book, "How Bad Do you Want It?Mastering the Psychology of Mind over Muscle"

Dr. Art Zemach and co-founder of Tailwind Nutrition, Jeff Vierling join The Nation to discuss Nutrition.

We talk about the Macro-nutrients carbohydrates and protein.

• Types of Carbs - are they all created equally?
• Does the body need carbs?
• What about training your body to burn fat?
• Why proteins?
• Glycemic Index
• The Golden Hour
• How do macronutrients help us maximize oxygen utilization?

Get a chance to preorder Tailwind Nutrition's new product, REBUILD

The capacity to endure, from 5K to 240 miles to a relationship is an elusive skill that we search for.   Runner and journalist, Alex Hutchinson, exposes us to research that has been done in recent years that will change the paradigm you may have about endurance.  He explores the relationship of the mental and the physical and what we have learned from scientists on how we can maximize our potential.

Andy Jones-Wilkins and Magda Boulet join The Nation to discuss four key chapters in the book, Endure: Mind, Body, and the Curiously Elastic Limits of Human Performance

Chapter 1: The Unforgiving Minute

Chapter 4: The Conscience Quitter

Chapter 8: Heat

Chapter 13: Belief

 AJW's Coaching

Tim Twietmeyer and Bob Crowley join The Nation to help the Noob with trail etiquette.

Here is their list:

Trail Etiquette

• Girlie Man
• Failed Liftoff
• Pass The Ass
• Too Close Carole (or Carl)
• Can’t Un-see That
• Blood Letting
• Downwind

Aid Station Etiquette

• Wayne’s World Rule
• Double-Dipper
• Ice This!
• Drip Dip
• Beam Blind
• Ear Bud Bud
• Ska’s The Limit

Davy Crockett, the host of the podcast, "Ultrarunning History" joins us to help us understand our community’s history and helps us better understand our tribe's culture. 

Davy has run over 100 100-mile finishes since starting in 2004.  He is a race director of the Pony Express Trail 50 and 100 in Utah and was recently named Director of the American Ultrarunning Hall of Fame.

You can learn more about Davy and his many works at Ultrarunninghistory.com 

Don and Scott look back on the last 5 years of podcasts and revisit the great guests and topics from 2016.

Top downloaded TRN Podcasts since 2011

Top downloaded TRN Podcasts in 2016

Candice Burt rejoins The Nation to discuss the Tahoe 200, the first 200-mile race in North America.  The race will begin on Friday, September 5 and cutoff is the following Tuesday, September 9.  The race will be covered by

• Candice's article, How to be Tough as Nails Mentally for Your 100 Miler
• Link to study on smiling

Take the Tailwind Challenge at: Tailwind Nutrition   

Check out the cool head TORCHES made for trail running at Petzl

Get free shipping and no blisters if you order some RunGoo Enter code: TRN2014 when you check out.

Today we are discussing the age-old question: are ice baths good for your health? It is a topic that has divided fitness enthusiasts and athletes for years, with some claiming that ice baths can help reduce muscle soreness and inflammation, while others argue that they can be harmful to the body. 

First, let us define what an ice bath is. An ice bath is a recovery method in which a person immerses their body in a tub of cold water and ice for a brief period, usually 10-15 minutes. The water temperature is typically around 50-59 degrees Fahrenheit. 

Now, let us dive into the potential benefits of ice baths. Some proponents of ice baths argue that the cold water can help reduce inflammation and muscle soreness after a workout. This is because cold water can constrict blood vessels, which can help reduce swelling and inflammation. In addition, cold water can numb nerve endings, which can provide temporary pain relief. 

However, it is important to note that the research on the effectiveness of ice baths is mixed. 

We decided to find out what the research has to say. Alex Hutchinson has written about the research multiple times and he joins The Nation to review the research and give us his opinion.

Alex mentioned the book The Sweet Spot: The Pleasures of Suffering and the Search for Meaning 

Here are some of his articles: 

• Ice baths, cryosaunas, sleep trackers: If it feels good, should you do it? 
• Do ice baths really fight inflammation? 
• The Ultimate (Evidence-Based) Guide to Recovery 

Follow Alex on Twitter 
Check out Sweat Science 
Alex'e MUST READ Book, Endure: Mind, Body and the Curiously Elastic Limits of Human Performance

Adam Kimble and Strava Co-Founder, Mark Gainey, were recently talking about Eliud Kipchoge's attempt at the sub 2-hour marathon.  They focused on every little detail that his team worked on improving. These small improvements can make a big difference.  How can we implement this strategy in our lives?  

British Cycling Team Performance Director, Dave Brailsford, did this with the team back in 2003 turning their mediocre winless team into a powerhouse of competitors with his philosophy of the "aggregation of marginal gains": tiny margins of improvement in everything they did.

Read more about the British cycling team from James Clear HERE

Check out Adam Kimble's new running journal, "Chasing Twilight" he wrote with Connor Crouch and Jim O'Brien

Learn more about Adam by checking out his web site and his coaching site, Run On Dirt Coaching.
Adam's social channels: Instagram, Twitter, Facebook

Check out this super 30-day trial to Open, a mindfulness studio

There is a correlation between motivation and self-discipline in successful runners.  Coach AJW joins The Nation to discuss what motivation and discipline is, how we can use it, and how to improve it.

Here are the links that we discussed

• Gene Hackman's motivational speech in Hoosiers
• Brad Kerns Morning Routine
• Podcast on Vulnerability
• Podcast Anatomy of a DNF

AJW's Coaching

AJW's Tap Room

Jared Campbell paid his $1.60 and a pack of cigarettes for his third attempt and second finish at the 2014 Barkley Marathons, a niche race in a niche sport.  Since the race's inception in 1986, only fourteen runners out of about 800 have completed the 100 mile race within the official 60 hour cut-off.  Jared is one of two racers that have finished the race twice.  Jared joins The Nation to discuss one of the most difficult trail races and his view on training.

You can learn more about Jared at his blog, Door5 and read more about his race at Barkley Marathons HERE.

Watch the 2014 Barkley Marathons Movie TRAILER and find out more about the movie HERE

Take the Tailwind Challenge at: Tailwind Nutrition   

Check out the cool headlamps made for trail running at Petzl

Pam Reed recently broke her leg.  Our East Coast Executive Producer and Headmaster, Andy Jones-Wilkins, joins The Nation to discuss what it takes to make a comeback from injury, in a race, from professional setbacks, personal relationships, etc.

Pam's previous podcast: "Visualization and Leaping Out of Your Comfort Zone with Pam Reed"

Pam Reed's book, "The Extra Mile"

Check out the TRN Store for great holiday gifts for you or your runner.

John Vonhof is the foot magician for ultra runners.  There are countless people that have reached further on an ultra run or even earned a belt buckle because of the tireless work that John has done.  We had John on the podcast over three years ago (Listen here).  Since then his book, "Fixing Your Feet - Injury Prevention and Treatment for Athletes" has been updated to its SIXTH edition.

Visit John's website to learn more about how to help prevent foot issues and what to do when you get them.

When Andy Jones-Wilkins isn't pouring cold brew in his Taproom, you can find him at the highest profile races.  Recently returning from 2015 WS100 and Hardrock 100 he shares his trail side insight of the strongest runners in our sport including; Magda Boulet, Rob Krar, Kilian Jornet and Anna Frost.   

Ultra Adventurer and leadership coach, Brian Chontosh, aka Tosh, rejoins The Nation to dive into the mental side of endurance sports.  He recently competed in a unique challenge: 24 hours in an enclosed shipping container trying to run as many miles on a Trueform treadmill.  No light, no watch, no data, virtually sensory deprived.  Listen to his experience in preparation and execution.  There are many things that we all can take away and use in attempting new challenges.

Short video of the challenge

Ideas that came from the podcast:

• "The less stuff I have, the more I rely on myself"
• Advice vs. opinion - different levels of importance
• Practice vs. training
• "pushing the mind's mind away"
• Slice the problem - Big problems  have Big solutions.  Break these Big problems into smaller problems and find the small solutions for them.

Check out these links:

• Crooked Butterfly
• Tosh's Instagram

Join TRN and follow Jimmy Dean as he takes on the original SIX 100-mile runs in the "Orignial Six Hundo Challenge".

Prior to each run we collect a recap from the previous race, bring a mentor to help repair our athlete and commit Jimmy to a prediction.

This should be fun......for us.

This podcast expert:  David "Sniper" Snipes: Sniper has completed >40 100-mile runs, including Jimmy's first challenge: the "Old Dominion"

Follow Jimmy's challenge at #O6HC or @CoachJimmyDean or at Socal Coyotes

To read more about JDF's challenge read here: Six Hundos

Ultra Trail Running is distinctly different in culture and mental preparation than other running or endurance sports.  Veteran Trail Ultra Runner, Bob Crowley, visits with the Nation about what is unique about this sports culture.

• Is there a difference between "doing" an ultra run and "being" an ultra runner?
• What are some of the tenets of the trail running culture?
• Are we losing the ultra trail running culture with the mass appeal and participation recently?
• How can we keep the culture?
• How does this culture helps us prepare mentally for the experiences that accompany a long trail race

An interesting perspective from Geoff Roes in his article, "Ultrarunning is Dead"

Join the Trail Animals Running Club

"Race Course in Review" by Vasque Running Shoes

Take the Tailwind Challenge at: Tailwind Nutrition   

Check out the cool headlamps made for trail running at Petzl

In this episode, we're joined by Dr. Eoin Everard, a physiotherapist with a PhD in Biomechanics, to discuss how to get to the starting line of a race or adventure in the best shape possible.

Dr. Everard is a certified athletic therapist who works with top athletes to help them perform at their peak. He's also an accomplished runner himself, boasting an impressive running resume that includes being a sub-4 minute miler, a sub-14 minute 5k runner, and a five-time Irish National Champion in the 1500 and 3000m.

In this episode, we'll explore the correct and most effective training plan for your unique physiology, whether you're a neuromuscular-type or aerobic-oriented runner. We'll also discuss how to keep your body healthy as you train, so you don't break down or get injured as you get closer to your event.

Check out Eoin's website HERE

He is also the author of the book Get to the Line in the Best shape possible - get the most out of the time and effort you put into your training - Free audio download 

PART 3 discussing three more chapters of the great book, Endure: Mind, Body, and the Curiously Elastic Limits of Human Performance

• PART 1 HERE.
• PART 2 HERE

The capacity to endure, from 5K to 240 miles to a relationship is an elusive skill that we search for.   Runner and journalist, Alex Hutchinson, exposes us to research that has been done in recent years that will change the paradigm you may have about endurance.  He explores the relationship of the mental and the physical and what we have learned from scientists on how we can maximize our potential.

East Coast Executive Producer, Andy Jones-Wilkins  rejoins The Nation to discuss three additional chapters:

• Chapter 7 Oxygen
• Chapter 10 Fuel
• Chapter 12 Zapping the Brain

Join Ashey and Jimmy Dean Freeman as they share their adventure at the inagural Salon Sea Ultramarathon.  Heat, rain, wind, COLD, 81 miles and 9,000 feet of climbing can make for an interesting race.  What can make it more interesting?  This is a team sport.  Grab three of your closest running partners, strap on the same bib number and run together. This is NOT a relay. 

Find Jimmy Dean Freeman at http://www.socalcoyotes.com/

Find Ashely Walsh at http://ashruns100s.com/

Follow Jimmy on Twitter @CoachJimmyDean

Follow Ashley on Twitter @Ashruns100s

Ultra Adventurer and leadership coach, Brian Chontosh, aka Tosh, join The Nation to discuss this simple but complex topic.

• Why is it easier to keep up?
• When we fall behind, we have a tendency to try and find a shortcut
• Good enough isn't
• Keeping up vs. getting ahead

Check out these links:

• Crooked Butterfly Podcast
• Crooked Butterfly website
• Tosh's Instagram

THE Ultra Running Girl, Stephanie Case, joins The Nation from Afghanistan a few short days after experiencing the jaws of the 2018 running of the Barkley Marathons.

Stephanie has not only run many of the world's toughest trail ultras, but has extended her comfort zone by living in some very dangerous places in the world as a United Nations Human Rights Lawyer.

Stephanie shares her experiences at Barkley, her three finishes at Tour de Geants, UTMB and others.

Please consider supporting Stephanie's charity, Free to Run, an organization that uses running and outdoor adventure to empower and educate women and girls who have been affected by conflict.  If you can make a donation GREAT.  If you can't, please find out more, follow Free to Run on social media and share with your friends:

• Facebook
• Twitter
• Instagram
• Youtube

Stephanie's Ted Talk

Dr. Steven Gangemi, Sock Doc, teaches us why SLEEP is a very important to your training.  We discuss

• Why is sleep so important?
• Do athletes need more sleep?
• What is good restful sleep?
• What are some of the factors that keep us from restful sleep?
• Are stimulants effecting our sleep?
• Common signs of poor sleep
• Sleep monitors, are they useful?
• Can you "catch up" on sleep?

Read Sock Doc's article on sleep

Here is another article: How Elite Athletes Use Sleep Routines to Boost Their Confidence and Win Medals

Learn more from Sock Doc at these sites:

http://systemshealthcare.net/ ~ AN INNOVATIVE APPROACH TO NATURAL HEALTH CARE

http://sock-doc.com/ ~ NATURAL INJURY TREATMENT AND PREVENTION FOR ATHLETES

http://www.drgangemi.com/ ~ HEALTH. FITNESS. LIFE.

This year's Western States 100 did not disappoint.  The course, the competition, the runners, the volunteers, the crew and pacers showed up in spades.  Join AJW as we review the big stories, review AJW pre-race picks, and relive the electricity from this past weekend.

Look for weekly articles from AJW in the Taproomat irunfar.

Warren joins us to talk about what has been on his mind:

• Running isn't just for runners anymore.  Despite your epigenetics, there are more people running today - even those who with body types that do not lend themselves to this sport.  Boils down to the nature v. nurture debate.
• His new diet: no wheat, dairy, sugar, alcohol, and caffeine.  After a month, guess how he feels?
• Fell running (or mountain running) popular in Northern England.  Originated in Scotland in 1040.
• Stu Mittleman, "Slow Burn: Burn Fat Faster by Exercising Slower"
• The Skinny on Obesity  7 part video series
• The new Royal prince and how that will effect trail running around the world.

Author of the best-selling book, Born to Run, Christopher McDougall rejoins The Nation over 11 years since its publishing. Over 3 million copies have been sold. Find that bag of chia seeds, make some Iskiate and lace up your huarache sandals. Do you still have your Vibram five-fingers?

We talk with Chris about the impact of his book and where we have gone as a running community in the last decade. We talk a bit about two of his other books, Natural Born Heros and Running With Sherman

This episode focuses on the intersection of coaching, athlete training, and the utilization of cutting-edge technology to enhance performance. What is the role of the plethora of tech devices and data analytics we now have? We are joined by two luminaries in the field, Joe Friel and Dirk Friel. Joe is a lifelong athlete with a masters degree in exercise science and has written the Training Bible books for road cyclists, mountain bikers, and triathletes. Dirk is a former pro cyclist and coach. Together with Gear Fisher, they created TrainingPeaks, the world's first online training log that has evolved into a training solution for athletes and coaches.

The guests share their expertise on how data analytics, wearable tech, and other innovations have transformed the way athletes train and coaches plan. They discuss the balance between traditional training methods and technological advancements, providing a holistic view of what it takes to reach peak performance.

Links of note:
- Our episode with Joe over 8 years ago about his book, "Faster After 50, How to Race Strong For the Rest of Your Life"
- "CoachCast" podcast with Dirk Friel
- TrainingPeaks. The training platform that Joe and Dirk co-created
- The Triathlete's Training Bible: The World's Most Comprehensive Training Guide, 4th Ed.
- Faster After 50: How to Race Strong for the Rest of Your Life
- Joe's web site
- Dirk's email

Today, we're taking a closer look at creatine, a supplement commonly associated with building muscle and improving athletic performance, but did you know that it may also have benefits for your brain health and cognitive functioning?

Bob Seebohar is joining to help us understand some of the new research and benefits of creatine.  Bob is a true pioneer in the field of sports nutrition, having developed the groundbreaking Metabolic Efficiency training approach, which helps athletes to optimize their nutrition and fueling strategies to achieve their performance goals. He has also authored several books on sports nutrition, including "Nutrition Periodization for Endurance Athletes" and "Metabolic Efficiency Training: Teaching the Body to Burn More Fat".

If you are interested in adding creatine to your diet, find a company that is "NSF Certified for Sport" or "Informed Sport Certified". Bob recommends either Klean Athlete or Thorne brands Start with 5-10 grams / day. 

Check out Bob's next run, the North Pole Marathon!

If you want to learn more about Bob and his services including his books, articles, coaching services, nutrition and more, visit ENRGPERFORMANCE.  He is also the co-host of the podcast Inside Sports Nutrition with Dina Griffin.

Check out the tasty healthy snacks he invented at All-Around Snack Company.

He has been on TRN a couple other times including these three great episodes:

EP 517: Eat to Train 
EP 583: TRAINING PRINCIPLES - Nutrition 
EP 598: Intermittent Fasting- Will it Help or Hinder our Performance? 

This is an episode we have been wanting to do for a long time.  We love our dogs and they love to join us on the trails.  However, there are many questions that come up concerning the safety of our companions.

Ultrarunner and dog-lover, Victor Ballesteros and Veterinarian, Dr. Xuân Mai Võ, join us to talk about their passion for the trail, outdoors, and their furry companions.  Some of the topics covered:

• What breads are the best?
• Where to find a good trail running dog?
• When can our pups start running?  How far?
• Safety concerns for our dogs.  How to deal with heat
• What can we learn from our pets?
• Canicross (Canicross USA)

Some additional resource links:

• Sophia Yin , Perfect Puppy in 7days: How to Start Your Puppy Off Right
• How to Behave so Your Dog Behaves
• Musher's Secret (paw wax)
• Squirrel's Nut Butter Salves
• Leptospirosis
• Dog and Human Harnesses
• Mid-range, everyday harnesses, Ruffwear

For the BEST sports bags visit Victor's company, Victory Sport Design and get 15% off with code trnpups

This coming weekend is the 50th anniversary of the one of the most legendary ultramarathons in the world - the Western States 100.

As we have done almost every year, we are joined by our good friend, Andy Jones-Wilkins, to review some of the names and stories of the 381 racers that will be running in 2023.

For half a century, this race has tested the limits of human endurance, attracting elite runners from around the globe who crave the ultimate challenge.

Over 80% of these racers have never run the race before.  We'll dive into the profiles of some of the top athletes who are expected to battle it out on the trails. From the seasoned veterans who have conquered this race before to the rising stars who are hungry for their moment of glory, we'll analyze their strengths, strategies, and previous performances to forecast who might emerge victorious in this landmark anniversary edition.

But it's not just about the winners; the Western States 100 is a tapestry of captivating stories. We'll uncover tales of courage, resilience, and the sheer human spirit that propel runners through the intense physical and mental challenges they face on this arduous course. 

You can follow along on the live broadcast or the live splits and results

#seeyouatstates

What are the biggest misconceptions that endurance athletes have about nutrition?  Dr. Patrick Davitt, Assistant Professor of Kinesiology and Program Director for Exercise Physiology at the Saint Joseph's University, joins us The Nation to help us understand some important information about nutrition as it relates to endurane sports.  Patrick has practical experience as an avid and accomplished member of our community of trail runners!  Should we taper our nutrition prior to a race?  Can we train our gut similar to our cardiovascular system?

Find out more about Dr. Davitt at CTW Endurance

Rob Rhodes joins The Nation to tell us about he biggest film festival for runners that is taking place all over the world!  The Trails In Motion is an annual international film tour that brings a collection of the finest trail and ultra running films to passionate audiences around the world. Join like-minded trail runners and adventure sports enthusiasts at film festival-styled events in more than 25 countries.

You can find a screening HERE 

Rob also started and leads a group for trail runners in the San Francisco Bay area called the Bay Trail Runners

We have all had disappointing finishes or the feeling of not accomplishing a goal.  How do you deal with these setbacks or roadblocks?

Bob Crowley discusses how he handled a disappointing DNF at Tor Des Geants in 2018.  He brings part of his team, Coach Meghan Laws, and Crew Cheif, Donna NiCuarta, to the table to help explain how he was able to evaluate, rebuild, train and execute his second attempt this year.

The Trail Animals running club

Zach Bitter and Matt Fitzgerald pop in to see who reins supreme with a grab bag topic.

Check out Zach's latest world record and his coaching information HERE

Matt is always working on the next must-read running book.  Make sure you have his entire library and his coaching services HERE

Photographer, musician, ultra runner, dirtbag, 7-time Hardrock 100 finisher, Howie Stern joins The Nation to talk about

• caring for your trail running dogs
  • hydration
  • dog pace
  • canine nutrition
  • verbal leash
• how to dirtbag 101
• trail / ultra photography

Days after the conclusion of the Tor Des Geánts 2018 race, Don sits down with AJW, ECEP, and Scott to talk about this amazing experience.

• Description of the Tor
• Course description
• Community
• Communication between runners despite the language barrier
• Trail culture - a tribe without borders
• Mountain Running vs. trail running
• DNF - what does it really mean

Video of what the Tor is really like.

Special thanks to our loyal partners for their support of the Tribe, The Nation!

• PATH Projects
• Leki
• Tailwind Nutrition
• Aftershokz
• Arc'Teryx

This is an encore episode with Courtney Dauwalter that we recorded back in February 2018.  We hope you enjoy the timeless wisdom that Courtney shares with The Nation.  

Courtney Dauwalter rejoins The Nation after earning a golden ticket into the 2018 Western States 100.  She has won her last six races and was overall winner at three of those.  She has been the first human to cross the line at 10 of the races she started including a 10 hour buffer between second place at the 2017 Moab 200.

Courtney talks about her "old school" method of training which includes a more intuitive focus rather than a specific training program.  Part of this includes consistency and adhering to AJW's "10-minute rule"

Previous podcast with Courtney

Dr. Robert Portman is and exercise scientist and coauthor of three books,

1. Nutrient Timing
2. The Performance Zone
3. Hardwired for Fitness

and has authored hundreds of articles on how nutrition can improve fitness, health and athletic performance.

Dr. Portman teaches us that there are five macro-nutrients that an endurance athlete needs to know how to use: Water, Proteins, Carbohydrates, Fats, and electrolytes.  By knowing WHEN and HOW MUCH to use  the macro-nutrients,  we can raise our performance, avoid bonking and G.I. distress.

Once we understand how to utilize these macro-nutrients, there are micro-nutrients that can further tweak and enhance our performance.

Over the last 30 years, Dr. Portman has reshaped sports nutrition and the development of energy products with proven performance and recovery benefits, including: Endurox R4, Accelerade and now Body Glove SURGE, an energy shot for endurance athletes.

Unsure of how much hydration and nutrition to use on your next workout?  Check out The Portman Calculator: easily compute your hydration and nutrition needs for a workout or race.

Here are some other interesting articles that Dr. Portman has written:

• Sleep your Way to a Better Race Time
• The Myth of Long Acting Carbohydrates
• The Muscle Recovery Mediator

Check out our new sponsor's, "Race Course in Review" by Vasque Running Shoes

Take the Tailwind Challenge at: Tailwind Nutrition   

Download a free audio book at Audible