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17 Feb 202237: Nicole Llorenz, Latham & Watkins: Manager of Recruiting - Diversity, Inclusion & Belonging00:39:28

On this episode I interview Nicole Llorenz, the Manager of Recruiting - Diversity, Inclusion & Belonging at Latham & Watkins LLP

Throughout this episode Nicole discusses what Latham & Watkins looks for in student applications and their evaluation of candidates. 
Topics include:

  • Mistakes students should avoid when applying
  • What Latham looks for on their assessment
  • When students should submit applications
  • How Latham evaluates the GPA and transcript


and much much more!

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Linkedin: Nicole (Sandoz) Llorenz 

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24 Feb 202238: Akiesha Anderson, Law School Admissions Consultant00:34:10

In this episode of Topping the Curve I interview Akiesha Anderson, a legislative attorney and law school admissions consultant. 

Throughout this Episode Akiesha discusses crafting the perfect law school application, for you. Topics include:

  • How to approach writing personal & diversity statements
  • How soft and hard factors affect your application
  • What diversity means for law school applicants
  • How to tell a story through your law school application

and much much more!

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11 Mar 202239: La-Toya Hackney, General Counsel: Saint-Gobain North America00:43:48

On this episode of Topping the Curve, I interview La-Toya Hackney, Senior Vice President, General Counsel & Secretary of Saint-Gobain North America. La-Toya has previously served as in-house counsel at various levels and joined me to share her expertise on what it means to work in-house for a large company.

Throughout the episode La-Toya discusses her experience as a General Counsel and what her day-to-day and broader work life looks like. Topics include:

  • How working in-house is different from a large firm
  • How to start a career in-house and the interview process
  • Key personal skills and qualities attorneys should develop to go in-house
  • How to continue to work on career development while living your life

and much more!

To find out more about La-Toya and Saint Gobain please see below:

Saint-Gobain's current list of job openings can be found on the company’s careers website.

About Saint-Gobain

Worldwide leader in light and sustainable construction, Saint-Gobain designs, manufactures and distributes materials and services for the construction and industrial markets. Its integrated solutions for the renovation of public and private buildings, light construction and the decarbonization of construction and industry are developed through a continuous innovation process and provide sustainability and performance. The group’s commitment is guided by its purpose, “MAKING THE WORLD A BETTER HOME."

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07 Apr 202240: Lynnette Espy-Williams, Commercial Litigation Equity Partner00:34:15

In this episode of Topping the Curve I interview Lynnette Espy-Williams, Equity Partner and Chief Diversity Officer at Cozen O'Connor. 

Lynne joins me today to discuss her practice as a commercial litigator. Throughout the episode we discuss:

  • Daily tasks and workload as a commercial litigator
  • Her work in the products liability and premises liability arena
  • How to find opportunities to enhance oral advocacy skills
  • What it takes to be a commercial litigator 

plus much much more!

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15 Apr 202241: Shavon Smith, Small Business Attorney00:27:02

In the final episode of season 1  of Topping the Curve I Interview Shavon Smith, a small business attorney and owner and founder of SJS law firm. 

Throughout the episode Shavon discusses her work as a small business attorney, the journey she took to get there and how she services her clients. 

Topics include:

  • How to chose between transactional and corporate practices
  • What a small business attorney does
  • How she got her small business attorney practice off the ground
  • What her billable and working hours look like as a small business attorney

and more!

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01 Sep 202242: Maura DeMouy, Assistant Dean for Experiential Education and Executive Director of RISE at Georgetown University Law Center00:46:57

In the first episode of Season 2, I interview Maura DeMouy, Assistant Dean for Experiential Education and Executive Director of RISE at Georgetown University Law Center.

Throughout the episode, Maura discusses how law students can find success in law school and adapt to an ever-changing environment to have successful careers.

Episode highlights include:

  1. Navigating law school with no specific practice area interest
  2. Time management in law school 
  3. Setting priorities and managing energy 
  4. Treating law school like a job
  5. Dealing with imposter syndrome

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08 Sep 202243: Maleaha Brown, Associate Professor of Legal Analysis, Writing, and Skills00:37:06

In this episode of Topping the Curve, I interview Maleaha Brown, Associate Professor of Legal Analysis, Writing, and Skills at Southwestern Law School.

Throughout the episode, Maleaha discusses how law students can approach and improve their legal writing. 

Episode highlights include:

  1. Writing processes in law school
  2. IRAC/CREAC
  3. How to edit your writing
  4. How to approach legal writing courses
  5. Objective memos vs. Persuasive briefs

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29 Sep 202246: Cindy Cohn, Executive Director, Electronic Frontier Foundation00:32:25

In this episode of Topping the Curve, I interview Cindy Cohn, Executive Director of the Electronic Frontier Foundation, the oldest and biggest organization dedicated to digital rights.

In this episode, Cindy discusses  advancements in technology law that affect our privacy rights. Topics include:

  • Navigating top secret surveillance and litigation discovery 
  • Companies that collect data through the internet and send it to third parties
  • How impact litigation differs from regular litigation 
  • The future of technology and the digital world
  • Getting started in the internet and digital tech law world


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16 Sep 202244: Tonit Calaway, General Counsel at BorgWarner Inc.00:32:37

In this episode of Topping the Curve, I interview Tonit Calaway, Executive Vice President, Chief Administrative Officer, General Counsel and Secretary at BorgWarner Inc.

Throughout the episode, Tonit discusses her career and what led to her role as general counsel.

Episode highlights include:

1. Skills you need as a General Counsel
2. Being open to opportunities that come your way
3. Her day to day life as a General Counsel
4. Having a supportive team

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22 Sep 202245: Natasha Zech, Director of Attorney Recruiting, Diversity & Development at Williams & Connolly LLP00:40:22

In this episode of Topping the Curve, I interview Natasha Zech, Director of Attorney Recruiting, Diversity & Development at Williams & Connolly LLP.

In this episode, Natasha discusses legal recruiting and legal coaching. Episode highlights  and topics include:

  • Big Law recruiting process & misconceptions
  • 6 step checklist to help you prepare for and choose the right job
  • Reneging on a law firm offer you have accepted 
  • What legal coaching is and what it is not
  • Evaluating yourself and your career in four steps

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06 Oct 202247: Andie Kramer, Tax Attorney Partner00:29:37

In this episode of Topping the Curve, I interview Andie Kramer, a Tax Attorney and Partner at an international law firm.

In this episode, Andie discusses what it means to be a tax attorney and her work over a variety of disciplines. 

Episode highlights and topics include:

  • What a tax attorney does
  • Cryptocurrency in tax transactions
  • Exchange and cryptocurrency scams
  • WLMA nonprofit focusing on inequality in the workplace

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21 Oct 202248: Debbie Feinstein, Antitrust Partner, Global Chair, Arnold & Porter LLP00:26:12

In this episode of Topping the Curve, I interview Debbie Feinstein, Antitrust Partner, Global Chair,  Arnold & Porter LLP

In this episode, Debbie talks about her work as an antitrust attorney over 35 years of experience

Episode highlights and topics include:

  • Day to day life as an antitrust partner
  • What junior associates are likely to do on antitrust cases
  • Key characteristics of successful antitrust lawyers
  • The four categories of antitrust:
    1. Getting companies through the FTC and DOJ
    2. Litigation – violating antitrust laws
    3. Criminal antitrust – hardcore price fixing
    4. Counseling 

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15 Nov 202249: Flo Nicolas, Technologist and Legal Tech Attorney00:31:14

On this episode of Topping the Curve, I interview Flo Nicolas, Technologist and Legal Tech Attorney 

Episode highlights and topics include:

  • Transitioning from a practicing attorney to a legal tech attorney
  • Nontraditional paths for attorneys
  • Networking within your desired legal industry
  • Artificial intelligence in the legal sphere

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14 Dec 202250: Monica Ingram, Associate Dean of Admissions and Financial Aid at Cornell Law School00:54:41

In this episode of Topping the Curve, I interview Monica Ingram, Associate Dean of Admissions and Financial Aid at Cornell Law School

Dean Ingram talks everything law school admissions and the application process.

Episode highlights and topics include:

  • Early decision vs. regular decision
  • Taking the LSAT more than once
  • Weighing hard factors vs. soft factors
  • Why your personal statement is important  
  • Reaching out to admissions counselors
  • Financial aid considerations in choosing a law school

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13 Apr 202101: Topping the Curve, An Introduction to the Law School Podcast: How to Succeed in Law School00:09:59

Hi everyone! Welcome to Topping the Curve. My name is Sephora Grey, and I am your host! I am currently a 2L at Georgetown Law, and incoming summer associate at a law firm in Washington, DC. On this introduction episode, you will hear a little about me, the podcast, why I created it and what you can expect to hear from future episodes. 

Topping the curve is a podcast for current, and prospective law school students and aims to provide the crucial information that I learned while navigating my own processes’.

Topping the Curve talks about everything law school related, from the application process, grades, externships and internships, big law, public interest tracks, networking, mentorship, and even imposter syndrome. 

Outside of what may seem to be strictly law school or lawyerly topics, you’ll hear about dealing with mental health, stress, and relaxation while in law school. 

All in all, if you were looking for THE lawschool podcast, you have found it. I would love to hear from you all and you should follow us on instagram @ToppingtheCurve and subscribe to our website: www.toppingthecurve.com to never miss a new episode!

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23 Apr 202102: Christina Higgins, How to Beat Law School Exams, Case Briefing, Outlining, and Getting Good Grades00:49:01

On todays episode of Topping the Curve I interview Christina Higgins, an attorney at Covington & Burling, in Washington, D.C. and we talk all about grades.

In this episode, Christina talks to us about how she prepared for law school, she examines specifically whether reading books about the topics she would ultimately learn was actually helpful once she started law school.

We will also get to hear about Christina's best tips for studying and reading for class, and ultimately prepping for exams. Christina gives us a "game changer" that even I can attest to— it works.

Lastly, Christina talks about outlining, taking practice exams, and finally taking the final exam. Christina runs us through the process of how she made sure she went in to the exam doing all she could, to top the curve.

If you are concerned or anxious about going in to final exams, or interested in learning more about being graded on a curve in law school, this is the episode to listen to!

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25 Apr 202103: Nabintou Doumbia, Applying to Law School, Taking the LSAT, Choosing Schools, Financial Aid, and More00:37:59

On today’s episode of Topping the Curve I interview my good friend Nabintou Doumbia and we talk all about the application process! Nabintou is a 2L at Georgetown University Law Center and she will be working at a big law firm in New York city this summer.

On this episode, Nabintou talks to us about why she decided to apply to law school and specific motivating factors that caused her to know law school was the right decision for her. Nabintou is particularly interested in immigration law and that drove her to apply to law schools that fit her interests and career goals

We will also hear about the how Nabintou studied for the LSAT, the materials she used, and the schools she targeted throughout her application process. Nabintou emphasizes that although she mainly applied to T-14 law schools, she had a list of factors that grounded her application cycle which allowed her to stay true to her goals and ultimately permitted her to turn down higher ranking schools.


Lastly, Nabintou will talk about financial aid (MONEY $$$) and how that affected her application process. Specifially, Nabintou talks about negotiating with schools to get them to give her more money!

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If you are in the process of applying to law school, or thinking about applying to law school, you do NOT want to miss this episode! 

 

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04 May 202104: Jordan Metoyer, How to Network; Building Relationships in Law School, and Shaping Your Career Through Sponsorships00:48:37

On today’s episode of Topping the Curve I interview Jordan Metoyer, a 2L at Georgetown, Barristers' Council Executive Director, and incoming summer associate at White & Case LLP, in their New York and Houston office. Jordan and I talk all about networking and the value of networking as a law student. 

In this episode, Jordan goes into detail about networking: what is is, how you do it, and most importantly why you need to do it as you are building a professional career. Jordan begins by breaking down what it means to network and how that definition may change as you progress throughout your career. Not only does Jordan talk about how networking is a meaningful way to create valuable relationships, but how it is also helpful on a personal level for understanding yourself and what you want to do. 

We  also hear about balancing networking with law school classes and what a typical 1L year may look like. Specifically, Jordan expresses that prime networking time is the time between the end of finals, and the beginning of your second semester 1L.

Lastly, Jordan talks about the distinction between networking with people from similar backgrounds, versus networking to build your career. You’ll specifically hear gems about sponsorship and mentorship and why they can be crucial to your success as a future attorney.

You can keep up with Jordan or ask her any questions via her Linkedin: Jordan Metoyer, or via email: jam489@georgetown.edu.

Not only is this episode important for current and prospective law school students, but it can also be applicable to any professional career.

 

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11 May 202105: Jade Baker, How to Overcome Imposter Syndrome in Law School, and Using it as Motivation to Reach Career Goals00:34:04

On today’s episode of Topping the Curve I interview Jade Baker, a 2L at Georgetown, the first Black woman Student Body Association President, and incoming summer associate at Winston & Strawn.

In this episode, Jade gets into the nitty gritty of imposter syndrome and what it’s like dealing with imposter syndrome as a minority in law school. Jade drops tips on how she overcomes feelings of inadequacy and suggests preparation, support systems, and more whenever those feelings begin to appear. 

We also talk about avoiding the trap of toxic motivation, focusing on what is best for you and your career trajectory, and balancing yourself in school.

Lastly, Jade talks about imposter syndrome in connection with your achievements before, during, and after law school. Here, we plant helpful reminders to help you overcome any feelings of inadequacy. 

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P.S.- close to the end of the episode, you’ll hear how this podcast, is revealing the “secrets” of the legal field.

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18 May 202106: Cheyenne Freely, Externships in Law School, Political Career Aspirations, and "The Hill"00:31:46

On today’s episode of Topping the Curve I interview Cheyenne Freely, a 2L at Georgetown, and co-director of the Moot Court Division of Barristers’ Council. Cheyenne will be a summer associate at a law firm in New York this summer. 

In this episode we talk all about the externship process. Specifically, we discuss externships on the hill (that is, congress), how you get them, what you should do to prepare, and speaking on behalf of your congressperson. 

Cheyenne talks about her experience as an extern, her application process and how she was able to secure the externship for her congressman.

Lastly, you’ll get to hear about balancing externships with law school and if it’s something that you should consider doing while in law school. 

As always I would love to hear from you all and you should follow us on instagram @ToppingtheCurve and subscribe to our website: www.toppingthecurve.com to never miss a new episode!

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26 May 202107: Sephora Grey, How to Secure a Big Law Job Your 1L Year00:48:55

On today’s episode of Topping the Curve I talk all about big law and securing a big law job your 1L year.

I begin with a general overview of what firms are considered big law firms and what exactly big law is. I then move into factors that you should consider when deciding if big law is for you. You’ll hear about debt considerations, training, and experience, and probably most importantly, exit opportunities. You will also get to hear about the downsides to big law and factors that might make someone not want to get into the big law life. 

After the big law overview I get into the details of how to prepare yourself to secure a big law position. Here you will hear how to create a list of firms to apply to and you will hear about the websites that you should be using throughout the process. I also talk about your materials and what you will need to make sure you have ready when it comes time to apply. 

I then move into timing. I talk about when you should apply, how many firms you should apply to, and at what point you should stop.

Lastly, I tie it all together and by this point you will have a full understanding of the big law process and securing a job your 1L year. 

You can keep up with me on Instagram at: phoraaboraa and on Linkedin: Sephora Grey

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23 Jun 202108: Meaza Abraham, OCI Bootcamp Series: How to Secure a Job in an Outside or Niche Market00:28:32

Today officially marks the kick-off of our OCI bootcamp series! To help prep students for the upcoming interview season, the next few weeks we will be discus a different aspect of on campus interviews and the firm bidding process. To start, I interview Meaza Abraham, a rising 3L at Georgetown and a summer associate at Milbank LA.

The aim of this episode is to help law students who are going to school in one market, but hope to secure a job in another.

In this episode Meaza talks about her process of bidding LA firms for OCI while being at a law school in DC.  

She goes into details about how she was able to secure multiple offers from LA firms even though she is: 1. Not from LA, 2. not at a law school in LA, and 3. some firms had limited spots. She specifically highlights researching, networking, and perfecting her elevator pitch!

Make sure to listen to this episode if you plan to bid firms that are not in your local market, or are in locations where you have no ties. 

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30 Jun 202109: Sephora Grey, OCI Bootcamp Series: How to Secure Early Offers From Big Law Firms00:26:00

In this episode of Topping the Curve I talk about the pre-OCI process and securing early offers.

I start off by explaining the process of creating a list of firms and using vault and chambers & partners to rank those firms according to what is most important to you as a future attorney. I go through my process step by step and explain how to use the list to create your personalized list of “top tier firms.”

Next, I go into the networking piece of  reaching out to attorneys. This portion of the episode explains what the actual pre-oci process is and what it can potentially look like. 

Lastly, I’ll talk about questions you will want to ask attorneys and other pieces of advice that you should keep in mind throughout the pre-oci process.  

Pre-OCI is a process that I believe everyone should do, (even if you think you don’t need to), because it will only benefit you in the end!

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07 Jul 202110: Skylar Luke, OCI Bootcamp Series: How to Prep for Interviews00:54:50

In this Episode of Topping the Curve I interview Skylar Luke, a 3L at Georgetown University Law Center and summer associate at a big law firm in New York. 

During the episode Skylar talks about the OCI interview process and how best to prepare for your screener interviews and your callbacks. Skylar goes into detail about her experience in OCI and talks about the different processes’ that firms have. 

Skylar also talks about the types of questions candidate are likely to receive during the interview and the types of questions you should (and should not) ask during the interview. 

Finally, Skylar gives final pieces of advice for before and during the interview, so that you can leave a good impression on your interviewers.  

If you are preparing for OCI, this is an episode you do not want to miss!

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14 Jul 202111: Kiara Rogers, OCI Bootcamp Series: How to Create a Bid List and Choose a Firm00:37:16

In this episode of Topping the Curve I interview Kiara Rogers, a 3L at Columbia Law School and summer associate at a big law firm in Washington, D.C.

Throughout this episode Kiara details her OCI experience and how she was able to use her career services office to aid in her success during OCI.  

Kiara also talks about how students should go about creating a bid list that accurately represents who they are as a person but simultaneously captures their hearts desires and career goals. 

In this episode we also talk strategy in terms of where you should place a firm on your bid list and what factors should come into play. Just to name a few, we discuss practice area, location, and affinity group presence, and pro bono opportunities. 

Lastly, Kiara talks about how she ultimately decided on a firm: here we talk about “stand up” experience, i.e.: doing depositions, writing briefs, making arguments, and all the substantive experience junior associates may or may not get to do depending on the firm. 

 As you prepare to go into OCI, make sure you listen to this episode before you create your bid list and choose a firm!

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28 Jul 202112: Tashay Campbell, How to Prepare for 1L Year and What to Expect00:32:58

In this episode of Topping the Curve I interview Tashay Campbell, a rising 2L at Georgetown. Tashay talks about how incoming law students should prepare for their first year of law school and discusses do’s and don’ts for the first time law students.  

P.S. This episode includes a chance for you to be featured! Listen in at 9:30 to hear more. 

In addition to discussing whether students should do pre-law school prep, we talk about the different approaches to law school and how you can use your undergrad experience to shape your 1L expectations.

Next, we talk about the personal toll 1L can have on students and how getting burnt out is a real phenomenon in law school. 

To learn tools for success for your 1L year be sure to listen to this episode and as always let me know what else you all want to hear!

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04 Aug 202113: Vanessa Omoroghomwan, What it’s Really Like to be a Big Law Associate00:58:57

In this episode of Topping the Curve I Interview Vanessa Omoroghomwan on what it’s like to be a big law associate! Vanessa is a third-year associate at a big law firm in DC and in this episode she details everything she has experienced and debunks a lot of myths about big law!

During this episode Vanessa talks about what her first year as a big law associate was and explains how she made the transition from law school to big law. Vanessa also talks about how important it is to be intentional about creating balance in law school and as a big law associate. She discusses how law students can make that happen for themselves and give helpful hints so that we too, can sus out that “all work, no play” culture. 

Mid-way through Vanessa discusses work assignments and getting the work you are interested in; building confidence is extremely important as a big law associate and learning how to advocate for yourself even when you have people to advocate for you.

Finally, Vanessa gives advice to everyone who is thinking about going in to big law and how they can succeed as an associate. 

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11 Aug 202114: Clirae Bourke, How to Approach Law School as a K-JD (Going Straight from Undergrad to Law School)00:34:30

In this episode of Topping the Curve I interview Clirae Bourke on being a K-JD. Clirae is a 3L at Georgetown University Law Center and worked at an environmental law firm this summer.

During this episode Clirae talks about her decision to go straight from undergrad to law school and how it affected her transition into law school. Rae discusses the challenges she went through, her undergrad major and what majors she thinks could be helpful in preparing for law school.

We also discuss the importance of having discipline and creating a schedule which can help facilitate the transition process that students who go straight through may not have had the chance to develop without a full-time working schedule for a year or two (or more) prior to law school.

Lastly, Clirae talks about the keys to her success as a K-JD and tips that otjer students can use to figure out their niche and make the adjustment process slightly easier. 

P.S. the networking episode we mentioned is episode 4!

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19 Aug 202115: Odunayo Durojaye, How to Prepare for Legal Research and Writing and Why it’s Important00:41:39

In this episode of Topping the Curve I interview Odunayo (Ayo) Durojaye all about the 1L legal research and writing class. Odunayo is a 3L at Georgetown University Law Center and worked at a big law firm this past summer. 

In this episode Ayo dives deep into the importance of legal research and writing and how she was able to elevate her legal research and writing her skills throughout her 1L year and beyond. We also delve into different styles of writing and how professor preferences can play a role when you are “writing for a grade”; which is why—it can be very helpful to speak to your professor.

Ayo also talks about the similarities and differences between writing for your 1L legal practice class versus writing in practice for a supervisor or partner; and explains why even aspiring transactional/corporate attorneys should care about legal research and writing.

After spending time on legal writing, we discuss legal research and what it means to use terms and connectors to help develop efficient research strategies. 

Finally, Ayo gives tips on how to improve your legal writing skills and become more efficient. “Do not think you know everything”

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25 Aug 202116: Sabrina Pearce, Public Interest Career Paths00:50:22

In this episode of Topping the Curve I interview Sabrina Pearce, a 3L at Georgetown University Law Center. Sabrina was a law clerk at the MacArthur Justice Center her 1L year and an intern at the Orleans Public Defenders Office  this past summer.

Throughout this episode Sabrina and I talked about how she navigated choosing a law school while knowing that she wanted to work in the public interest. She discusses the factors she considered such as financial aid, the legal field, scholarships, and opportunities available to her at the law school.  

Sabrina then goes on to discuss the pressure she faced while in law school when a lot of her peers were planning to go into the private sector and how much money they would be making. She talked about the importance of staying true to yourself and how she remained strong even in the face of that pressure.  

After discussing what public interest is and the many options people have, Sabrina discusses how difficult it can be to secure a job in the public interest sector and talks about project fellowships, organizational fellowships, and using job fairs and job boards to find a position post-grad. In this discussion, Sabrina also mentions the DOJ honors program and other honors programs that students can apply to. 

Lastly, to help in the job search, Sabrina gives interview tips and suggests getting experience early on in law school through pro bono, volunteer experience, and externships; particularly to show your devotion to the public interest. 

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01 Sep 202117: Tatiana Hyman, How Journal can Prepare you for Different Career Paths and Maximize Career Opportunities01:05:44

In this episode of Topping the Curve, I interview Tatiana Hyman, a 3L at Fordham Law School, and the Editor-In-Chief of the Fordham Law Review. 

Throughout this episode Tatiana discusses how journal can provide valuable experience through editing, writing, leadership, and attention to detail, among other aspects. She talks about how regardless of your career path, the skills learned in journal can make you a better attorney. 

Tatiana goes on to discuss how she thought journal was only for litigators. She explains how and why she was wrong, and that even as an aspiring transactional attorney, journal has opened the doors for her that she had never imagined. 

We also touch on the community aspect of journal, and how important it is to network within your journal and among your journal’s alums. Importantly, we discuss how preparation for the write-on competition begins when you start your 1L year, and particularly in your legal writing class. 

Lastly, we talk about taking advantage of the opportunities that are available to you through your law school and through other networking opportunities, especially when there is no downfall, and it can only help you and your career.

Episodes mentioned: 

  • Episode 15- legal research and writing: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1757233/9054977-15-odunayo-durojaye-how-to-prepare-for-legal-research-and-writing-and-why-it-s-important.mp3?download=true)
  • Episode 4- Networking: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1757233/8458055-04-jordan-metoyer-how-to-network-building-relationships-in-law-school-and-shaping-your-career-through-sponsorships.mp3?download=true

P.S. Stay tuned for a real talk session at the end!

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08 Sep 202118: Demetra Liggins, Preparing to Enter Corporate America and Developing Realistic Expectations00:46:22

In this episode of Topping the Curve I interview Demetra Liggins about Corporate America. Demetra is a partner at a big law firm and co-owner of Corporate Homie, a business and podcast that she started with her twin sister.

Throughout the episode Demetra talks about key aspects that future attorneys should keep in mind when entering the corporate world:

-       Taking initiative and pushing past any fears you may have 

-       Having an open heart and a coachable spirit

-       Setting priorities and using that to guide your decision-making in the workplace

-       How to make sure you are getting good work and getting noticed

-       Code-switching and being yourself in the workplace

Demetra goes into depth about all of the above and how she achieved her current success in the corporate sphere. 

LinkedIn: Demetra Liggins

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15 Sep 202119: Janae Staicer, The Clerkship Process: Applying, Securing, and Starting a Clerkship00:51:29

In this episode of Topping the Curve I interview Janae Staicer, a law clerk for a judge on the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York. Janae also just finished a clerkship on the fifth circuit court of appeals. 

Throughout the episode Janae talks about steps to take prior to applying to clerkships, and ultimately securing a clerkship:

  • What makes a strong clerkship applicant and what judges look for
  • Tips and best application strategies 
  • Preparing for interviews and the actual interview process
  • Appellate clerkships vs. District court clerkships
  • Longevity of the clerkship process and the actual clerkship experience

Janae goes into depth about all of the above and more! 

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22 Sep 202120: Denise Robinson, Prioritizing Health and Wellness in Your Career00:49:45

In this episode of Topping the Curve I interview Denise Robinson, a former practicing attorney and owner of “The Still Center” where she focuses on wellness, and diversity, equity, and inclusion; particularly in the legal space, providing workshops and presentations to institutions and law schools. 

Time markers:
Start: how Denise entered her current field
14:45: mental health discussion

Throughout the episode Denise goes into depth with her experience in law school and how she has transformed that experience to ensure mental wellness: 

  • Knowing the signs of mental illness and when to reach out for help
  • Finding and using a social network and support system
  • Maintaining wellness during the virtual environment
  • How institutions and law schools can do more to aid students
  • Authenticity and surviving amongst different identities and backgrounds

Denise goes into depth about all of the above and more! A lot of things we discussed can be further explored in past episodes:

Corporate America: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1757233/9156879-18-demetra-liggins-preparing-to-enter-corporate-america-and-developing-realistic-expectations.mp3?download=true

Networking: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1757233/8458055-04-jordan-metoyer-how-to-network-building-relationships-in-law-school-and-shaping-your-career-through-sponsorships.mp3?download=true

Big Law: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1757233/8973893-13-vanessa-omoroghomwan-what-it-s-really-like-to-be-a-big-law-associate.mp3?download=true

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29 Sep 202121: Kit Metoyer, The Transfer Process; and Law School—Generally; What it Requires00:47:00

In this episode of Topping the Curve I interview Kit Metoyer, a 3L at Harvard Law school. Kit transferred from the University of Michigan to Harvard law school at the end of her 1L year.

Throughout the episode Kit talks about her decision to transfer, factors she considered, and the transfer process itself. Specifically, we discuss: 

  • Working prior to law school to balance other “hard” factors 
  • Performance during 1L year
  • The mindset before, during and after the transfer process
  • Job prospects, extracurricular prospects, and support systems

Kit goes into depth about all of the above and more! A lot of things we discussed can be further explored in past episodes:

Grades: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1757233/8393133-02-christina-higgins-how-to-beat-law-school-exams-case-briefing-outlining-and-getting-good-grades.mp3?download=true
1L year: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1757233/8937312-12-tashay-campbell-how-to-prepare-for-1l-year-and-what-to-expect.mp3?download=true
Applying to Law School: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1757233/8399064-03-nabintou-doumbia-applying-to-law-school-taking-the-lsat-choosing-schools-financial-aid-and-more.mp3?download=true

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06 Oct 202122: Kinika Young, How to Transition From Big Law Into the Public Interest00:32:04

In this episode of Topping the Curve I interview Kinika Young. Kinika is the Senior Director of Health Policy and Advocacy at the Tennessee Justice Center and a former big law partner 

Throughout the episode Kinika discusses her transition from a big law firm partner to her current public interest role:

-       How to know when its time to make a career transition  

-       Resisting the golden handcuffs 

-       Finding the right job for you and approaching the transition

-       Exploring multiple options during law school

Kinika goes into depth about all of the above and more! A lot of things we discussed can be further explored in past episodes: 

Big Law: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1757233/8973893-13-vanessa-omoroghomwan-what-it-s-really-like-to-be-a-big-law-associate.mp3?download=true
Corporate America: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1757233/9156879-18-demetra-liggins-preparing-to-enter-corporate-america-and-developing-realistic-expectations.mp3?download=true
Public Interest: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1757233/9084568-16-sabrina-pearce-public-interest-career-paths.mp3?download=true
Networking: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1757233/8458055-04-jordan-metoyer-how-to-network-building-relationships-in-law-school-and-shaping-your-career-through-sponsorships.mp3?download=true

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13 Oct 202123: Shantia Coley, How as an In-house Counsel at a Fortune 500 Company She Continues to Build Her Brand00:45:24

In this episode of Topping the Curve I interview Shantia Coley, an in-house counsel at a fortune 500 company.

Throughout the episode Shantia discusses her role as an in-house counsel and the importance of branding. Topics include:

  • How she became an in-house counsel
  • In-house counsel work vs. Law firm work
  • Taking leaps in your career
  • The importance of branding
  • Effective use of social media

Shantia goes into depth about all of the above and more! A lot of things we discussed can be further explored in past episodes:

Networking: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1757233/9084568-16-sabrina-pearce-public-interest-career-paths.mp3?download=true
Public Interest: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1757233/9084568-16-sabrina-pearce-public-interest-career-paths.mp3?download=true
Big Law: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1757233/8973893-13-vanessa-omoroghomwan-what-it-s-really-like-to-be-a-big-law-associate.mp3?download=true

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Email: Info@Shantiacoley.com 
LinkedIn: Shantia Coley
Instagram: @Shantiacoley
Facebook: Shantia Coley

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20 Oct 202124: Victoria King, Why Mentorship is Important for Your Career00:46:50

In this episode of Topping the Curve I interview Victoria King, a first-year associate at a big law firm in Washington, D.C.

Throughout the episode Victoria discusses why mentorship is important, and how you can use it to advance your career. Topics include:

  • How to seek out mentors 
  • Dealing with conflicting advice or bad advice
  • Different levels of mentorship
  • Sponsorship and mentorship programs:
    • TAP, LCLD, etc.

Victoria goes into depth about all of the above and more! A lot of things we discussed can be further explored in past episodes:

Networking: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1757233/8458055-04-jordan-metoyer-how-to-network-building-relationships-in-law-school-and-shaping-your-career-through-sponsorships.mp3?download=true
Clerkships: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1757233/9197463-19-janae-staicer-the-clerkship-process-applying-securing-and-starting-a-clerkship.mp3?download=true

Feel free to keep up with Victoria here:
Linkedin: Victoria King

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27 Oct 202125: Roberta Oluwaseun Roberts, How to Take Charge of Your Life as an Attorney00:52:20

In this episode of Topping the Curve I interview Roberta Oluwaseun Roberts, a Federal Government litigation attorney, bar coach and certified Christian life coach. 

Throughout the episode Roberta discusses powerful tools to take charge of your life as a law student and attorney. Topics include: 

  • Transforming your mindset to one of positivity
  • Balancing your work, personal, and social life
  • Taking and passing the bar 
  • Checking your time and energy to effectively manage your life as an attorney

Roberta goes into depth about all of the above and more! 
Also listen to relevant past episodes here: 

Grades: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1757233/8393133-02-christina-higgins-how-to-beat-law-school-exams-case-briefing-outlining-and-getting-good-grades.mp3?download=true
Mental Health: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1757233/9238476-20-denise-robinson-prioritizing-health-and-wellness-in-your-career.mp3?download=true
Corporate America: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1757233/9156879-18-demetra-liggins-preparing-to-enter-corporate-america-and-developing-realistic-expectations.mp3?download=true

Feel free to keep up with Roberta and find out more about our discussion here:
Website: robertaoroberts.com
Grace for the Grind Career Mastermind: app.graceforthegrind.com
IG: @robertaoroberts_esq
LinkedIn: Roberta Oluwaseun Roberts, Esq. 

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03 Nov 202126: Rho Thomas, How to Achieve Financial Freedom and Flexibility in Your Career00:48:44

In this episode I interview Rho Thomas, an attorney and financial business coach. Rho discusses how to achieve financial stability and flexibility in our lives as law students, attorneys, and in any other career.

In the episode we discuss:

  • Finding and applying to scholarships
  • Managing and paying down debt
  • How emotions can affect your financial situation
  • Making moves in your career to build a safety net

Rho goes into depth about all of the above and more! 

Listen to past episodes here:

Law School Applications: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1757233/8399064-03-nabintou-doumbia-applying-to-law-school-taking-the-lsat-choosing-schools-financial-aid-and-more.mp3?download=true

Big law: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1757233/8973893-13-vanessa-omoroghomwan-what-it-s-really-like-to-be-a-big-law-associate.mp3?download=true

Health and wellness: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1757233/9238476-20-denise-robinson-prioritizing-health-and-wellness-in-your-career.mp3?download=true

  • Feel free to keep up with Rho here:
  • Website: https://www.rhothomas.com,
  • Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/iamrhothomas,
  • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iamrhothomas,
  • Email: hello@rhothomas.com

As always, I would love to hear from you all! Follow us on instagram @ToppingtheCurve, and on facebook @ToppingtheCurve, and subscribe to our website: www.toppingthecurve.com to never miss a new episode!

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10 Nov 202127: Dr. Stephanie D. Barnes, Finding Purpose in Your Life and Career: How to Be the CEO of Your Own Life01:07:32

In this episode of Topping the Curve I interview Dr. Stephanie D. Barnes, a writer, corporate attorney, leadership coach, and podcast host.

Throughout the episode Dr. Barnes discusses how to be the CEO of your own life through finding purpose in your life and career. Topics include: 

  • How to find the leader in yourself
  • Why you should not tie your purpose to your performance
  • Envisioning a long legal career and what you want to achieve
  • How to be your own advocate for your life
  • How to build the six C'S for a successful career
  • How to become fulfilled intentionally 

Dr. Barnes goes into depth about all of the above and more! Listen to past episodes here:

Taking charge of your life: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1757233/9439770-25-roberta-oluwaseun-roberts-how-to-take-charge-of-your-life-as-an-attorney.mp3?download=true
Corporate America: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1757233/9156879-18-demetra-liggins-preparing-to-enter-corporate-america-and-developing-realistic-expectations.mp3?download=true

Feel free to keep up with Dr. Barnes here:

Email: Stephanie@drstephaniedbarnes.com.  
Twitter: @drsdbarnes
 www.facebook.com/StephanieDBarnesPhD
Instagram @drstephaniedbarnes. 
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephaniedbarnes/
Her website is www.drstephaniedbarnes.com

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17 Nov 202128: Tiffany Graves, What it Means to be a Public Interest Attorney at a Big Law Firm: Pro Bono Counsel00:42:21

In this episode of Topping the Curve I interview Tiffany Graves, a Pro Bono counsel at Bradley Arant Boult Cummings.

Throughout the episode Tiffany discusses her path to becoming a pro bono counsel and her commitment to public interest work even through her experience at the firm.

Topics include:

  • How to use your time at a firm to build experience and skills
  • Getting a law firm offer with no law firm experience
  • The transition from the public interest into the private sector
  • How law firm experience can promote excellence in the non-profit space 

Tiffany goes into depth about all of the above and more! Listen to past episodes here:

Public Interest: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1757233/9084568-16-sabrina-pearce-public-interest-career-paths.mp3?download=true
Life in Big Law: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1757233/8973893-13-vanessa-omoroghomwan-what-it-s-really-like-to-be-a-big-law-associate.mp3?download=true
Transition from Big Law into the Public Interest: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1757233/9319772-22-kinika-young-how-to-transition-from-big-law-into-the-public-interest.mp3?download=true

Feel free to keep up with Tiffany here:

 Email: tgraves@bradley.com

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01 Dec 202129: Sephora Grey, Et al., How to Prepare for Law School Final Exams: Acing the Exam00:30:04

In this episode of Topping the Curve I asked multiple law students, recent grads, and attorneys for their best exam season tips!

Throughout the episode I share and discuss 50 tips to succeed during finals season. The tips fall into four categories:

1. Practice exams
2. Outlining
3. Scheduling
4. Self-care

Huge thank you to everyone who provided me with tips and advice for this episode! 

Listen to past episodes here:

Grades: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1757233/8393133-02-christina-higgins-how-to-beat-law-school-exams-case-briefing-outlining-and-getting-good-grades.mp3?download=true
Balancing attorney life: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1757233/9439770-25-roberta-oluwaseun-roberts-how-to-take-charge-of-your-life-as-an-attorney.mp3?download=true
Clerkship: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1757233/9197463-19-janae-staicer-the-clerkship-process-applying-securing-and-starting-a-clerkship.mp3?download=true

As always, I would love to hear from you all! Follow us on instagram @ToppingtheCurve, and on facebook @ToppingtheCurve, and subscribe to our website: www.toppingthecurve.com to never miss a new episode!

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09 Dec 202130: Jessica Battle, Lead Police Counsel: What it Means to be A Police Attorney00:50:03

In this episode of Topping the Curve I interview Jessica Battle, the Lead Counsel at the Charlotte Mecklenburg Police Department. 

Throughout the episode Jessica discusses what it means to be a Police Counsel and what her day-to-day work entails. Jessica also discusses the importance of her role in light of the black lives matter movements and the current climate of our nation. 

  • Advising police on legal matters
  • Being a woman of color in the police department
  • Changing the institution and not letting the institution change her
  • Litigating as a police attorney for the city of Charlotte
  • Evaluating protests from law enforcement perspective

Jessica goes into depth about all of the above and more! Listen to past episodes here:

How to prepare for exams: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1757233/9642246-29-sephora-grey-et-al-how-to-prepare-for-law-school-final-exams-acing-the-exam.mp3?download=true
What it means to be a pro bono counsel: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1757233/9562581-28-tiffany-graves-what-it-means-to-be-a-public-interest-attorney-at-a-big-law-firm-pro-bono-counsel.mp3?download=true
Mentorship: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1757233/9398568-24-victoria-king-why-mentorship-is-important-for-your-career.mp3?download=true

Feel free to keep up with Jessica here: 
Instagram:  @jessica.esquire (primary) and @esquirebarbie

For mentorship opportunities please email: contact@sephoragrey.com

As always, I would love to hear from you all! Follow us on instagram @ToppingtheCurve, and on facebook @ToppingtheCurve, and subscribe to our website: www.toppingthecurve.com to never miss a new episode! 

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15 Dec 202131: Ral Obioha, How to Start Your Own Law Firm00:41:08

On this episode of Topping the Curve I interview Ral Obioha, an Immigration and Personal Injury Attorney based in Houston, Texas. Ral is also an international human rights attorney. 

Throughout the episode Ral discusses how she started her own law firm and continues to build clientele. Topics include:

  • How to create a “solo” practitioner network
  • Solo practitioner challenges and roadblocks
  • How to balance the business side of running a law firm
  • Choosing your practice area
  • Saving money and financial considerations

Feel free to keep up with Ral here:
Instagram, Facebook and YouTube- @ralobiohalaw. 
Website: www.ralobiohalaw.com. 
Phone: 713-234-1100

Topics Mentioned in this episode can be explore further here:
Mentorship: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1757233/9398568-24-victoria-king-why-mentorship-is-important-for-your-career.mp3?download=true
Networking: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1757233/8458055-04-jordan-metoyer-how-to-network-building-relationships-in-law-school-and-shaping-your-career-through-sponsorships.mp3?download=true
Finances: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1757233/9481174-26-rho-thomas-how-to-achieve-financial-freedom-and-flexibility-in-your-career.mp3?download=true

 As always, I would love to hear from you all! Follow us on instagram @ToppingtheCurve, and on facebook @ToppingtheCurve, and subscribe to our website: www.toppingthecurve.com to never miss a new episode!

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22 Dec 202132: Kisha Brown, Founder and CEO of Justis Connection00:49:23

In the final episode of 2021,  I interview Kisha Brown, the Founder and CEO of Justis Connection, a network that connects the public with black attorneys for free.

Throughout the episode Kisha discusses how her past as a legislative attorney, civil rights attorney, and her work in the private sector led her to starting Justis Connection and how she created a network to help black attorneys with their business development. Topics include:

  • How to create an upward trajectory in your career
  • Creating a network for black attorneys to gain new clients
  • Advancing black attorneys and increasing access to Justice
  • Internship opportunities available with Justis Connection

Kisha goes into depth about all of the above and more! 

Topics mentioned can be further explored here:
Starting your own firm: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1757233/9722702-31-ral-obioha-how-to-start-your-own-law-firm.mp3?download=true
Achieving Financial Freedom: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1757233/9481174-26-rho-thomas-how-to-achieve-financial-freedom-and-flexibility-in-your-career.mp3?download=true
In-House Counsel at a Fortune 500 Company: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1757233/9359172-23-shantia-coley-how-as-an-in-house-counsel-at-a-fortune-500-company-she-continues-to-build-her-brand.mp3?download=true

Feel free to keep up with Kisha here:
FB & IG: @justisconnection
www.linkedin.com/in/kishaabrown
www.linkedin.com/co/justisconnection

For mentorship opportunities, application review, or law school advice go to: https://sephoragrey.com

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See you all in the new year!

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05 Jan 202233: Justice Verda Colvin, Georgia Supreme Court Justice00:56:07

On the first episode in the new year, I interview Justice Verda Colvin, one of the nine supreme court justices on the Georgia Supreme Court. Justice Colvin was previously a judge on the Superior Court and on the Georgia Court of Appeals. 

Throughout this episode Justice Colvin discusses how she became a Georgia Supreme Court Justice and what it means to be a Justice. Topics include:

  • The Georgia Supreme Court Justice election process
  • How her legal experience and exposure helped prepare her to become a judge 
  • Differences between the Superior Court, Court of Appeals, and Supreme Court
  • Hiring term law clerks at the State Supreme Court level
  • What makes a good judge and/or Justice

Justice Colvin goes into depth about all of the above and more! 

Listen to related topics here:
Starting your own law firm: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1757233/9722702-31-ral-obioha-how-to-start-your-own-law-firm.mp3?download=true
Public Interest Career Paths: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1757233/9084568-16-sabrina-pearce-public-interest-career-paths.mp3?download=true
Mentorship: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1757233/9398568-24-victoria-king-why-mentorship-is-important-for-your-career.mp3?download=true

Feel free to contact Justice Colvin by going here:
www.gasupreme.us

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13 Jan 202234: Monica Ingram, Associate Dean of Admissions and Financial Aid at Cornell Law School; How to Get into a Top Law School00:59:53

 In this episode of Topping the Curve I interview Monica Ingram, the Associate Dean of Admissions and Financial Aid at Cornell Law School.

Throughout this episode Ms. Ingram discusses how to create a strong law school application. Specifically, she discusses what Cornell looks for in law school applications and generally, what admissions committees look for throughout the admission process.

Topics include:

  • Law schools are looking for applicants with an indicia of success
  • How law schools incorporate holistic review of applicants
  • How to strengthen your law school application outside of LSAT and GPA
  • How interviews of law school applicants’ factor into admission decisions
  • Law school application mistakes to avoid
  • Financial considerations when applying to law school

Join other pre-law students in the pre-law school mentorship community and take advantage of courses, guest speakers, freebies, and more! Join here 

Feel free to keep up with Ms. Ingram here:

Cornell Law School, jdadmissions@cornell.edu, 
Phone 607-255-5141
Linkedin: Monica Ingram

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20 Jan 202235: Professor Marissa Jackson Sow, Assistant Professor of Law at St. Johns University School of Law: The Process to Becoming a Professor00:37:06

On this episode of Topping the Curve I interview Professor Marissa Jackson Sow, an Assistant professor of law at St. Johns University School of Law. 

Throughout this episode Professor Marissa Jackson Sow discusses her position as a professor and the process to becoming a professor. Topics include: 

  • The importance of having publications prior to getting a professorship
  • How Visiting Assistant Professorships can help with tenure track positions
  • The meat market and what is needed to apply to professor openings
  • Professor distinctions and rules about how certain law schools grant tenure 

Professor Sow goes into depth about all of the above and more! 

Explore past episodes here:
Clerkships: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1757233/9197463-19-janae-staicer-the-clerkship-process-applying-securing-and-starting-a-clerkship.mp3?download=true
Mentorship: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1757233/9398568-24-victoria-king-why-mentorship-is-important-for-your-career.mp3?download=true
State Supreme Court Judge: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1757233/9833638-33-justice-verda-colvin-georgia-supreme-court-justice.mp3?download=true

Feel free to keep up with Professor Sow here:
Twitter: @MarissaEsque

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27 Jan 202236: Laranda Walker, Partner at Litigation Boutique Firm Susman Godfrey00:39:48

On this episode of Topping the Curve I interview Laranda Walker, a partner at litigation boutique firm Susman Godfrey.

Throughout this episode Laranda discusses her path to partnership at Susman Godfrey and her role at the litigation boutique firm. Topics include: 

  • Obstacles to partnership 
  • How to understand firm dynamics and the partnership process and path
  • How partner work differs from associates and other levels at the firm
  • Day to day processes of partnership at Susman Godfrey

Laranda goes into depth about all of the above and more! 

Topics mentioned can be further explored here:

Clerkships: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1757233/9197463-19-janae-staicer-the-clerkship-process-applying-securing-and-starting-a-clerkship.mp3?download=true
Big law associate: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1757233/8973893-13-vanessa-omoroghomwan-what-it-s-really-like-to-be-a-big-law-associate.mp3?download=true
Starting your own firm: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1757233/9722702-31-ral-obioha-how-to-start-your-own-law-firm.mp3?download=true

Feel free to keep up with Laranda here:
lwalker@susmangodfrey.com

For mentorship opportunities, law school prep courses, application review, or law school advice go to: https://sephoragrey.com

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