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08 Feb 202210 | CEATI - Centre for Energy Advancement through Technological Innovation, Rob Young, Utility Vegetation Management Technical Advisor00:26:18

Centre for Energy Advancement through Technological Innovation (CEATI)

This episode features an interview with Rob Young, Executive Director of the Registered Professional Foresters Association of Nova Scotia, and Technical Advisor to the research organization CEATI. Rob spent over 25 years developing and leading Integrated Vegetation Management (IVM) programs at Nova Scotia Power for 5,500 km of transmission and 27,000 km of distribution lines. 

In this interview, we discuss the research organization CEATI, and the work it is doing to advance Utility Vegetation Management as a discipline. We cover several topics including: 

  • Background on CEATI
  • Learning opportunities - Strategic Planning and Program Management, Technology Equipment and Products, Public and Social, Environmental Contribution
  • Best Management Practices for communication about VM programs
  • LiDAR, Phodar and the practical uses of satellite imagery
  • Fire and weather-related risk mitigation
  • Right of Ways as an asset of ecological value
  • Integrated Vegetation Management (IVM) Principles 
  • Condition Based Management
  • A brief exploration of lobster by-laws in Nova Scotia

We hope that you find this episode of The UVM Podcast helpful. If you have any feedback on the episode or suggestions for topics you’d like us to cover in future episodes, please feel free to get in contact at podcast@utilityvegetationmanagement.com


Rob can be found on LinkedIN here and the CEATI website is here.

15 Mar 202211 | Richard Hauer, University of Wisconsin - Stevens Point **CEUs Available**00:27:12

** 0.5 CEU credit from the International Society of Arboriculture (ISA) available to Utility Arborist Association members. Complete the questionnaire on the UAA website here. **

In this episode we interview Professor Richard Hauer from the College of Natural Resources at The University of Wisconsin at Stevens Point (UWSP). An academic institution known by many of our listeners, UWSP continues to be a source of education and research to the UVM industry.   

During this thoughtful discussion, Professor Hauer discusses his work on a recent report he published about Utility Vegetation Management in North America. The report was based on a 2019 utility forestry census of UVM activities and operations. Professor Hauer also details UWSP courses focused on UVM including the Vegetation Management Certificate. 

Links:

Note: 50 printed versions of the report are available on a first come, first serve basis by contacting report co-author Randy Miller (rmiller@cnutility.com).

 We hope that you find this episode of The UVM Podcast insightful. If you have any feedback on the episode or suggestions for topics you’d like us to cover in future episodes, please feel free to get in contact at podcast@utilityvegetationmanagement.com.

A big thank you to this episodes sponsor, LiveEO

30 Mar 202212 | Matt Palmer, Ergon Energy Network and Energex, part of the Energy Queensland group00:23:24

In this episode we interview Matt Palmer, Vegetation Specialist - Standards, at Ergon Energy Network and Energex, part of the Energy Queensland group.  

Ergon Energy Network and Energex are distribution service providers that together deliver approximately 35,000 GWh of electricity right across Queensland to around 2.3 million customers. The network consists of more than 178,000 km of overhead powerlines and 29,000 km of underground power cables. 

During this discussion we cover several topics including:

  • System configuration 
  • The unique geographical challenges posed by Queensland
  • The tyranny of distance when working with such a remote distribution system
  • Regulation for utilities in Queensland
  • Vegetation work zones, cycle times and optimum intervention time
  • The impact of El Nino and La Nina climatic patterns 
  • Bushfires in the Queensland context
  • Safe working practices

 We hope that you find this episode of The UVM Podcast insightful. If you have any feedback on the episode or suggestions for topics you’d like us to cover in future episodes, please feel free to get in contact at podcast@utilityvegetationmanagement.com.

12 Apr 202213 | Hydro One, Teri French, VP Forestry Services and Patrick Howe, Vegetation Management Front Line Manager00:18:50

In this episode we interview Teri French, Vice President, Forestry Services, and Patrick Howe, Vegetation Management Front Line Manager at Hydro One. In this thoughtful discussion, Teri and Patrick talk about running an in-house UVM program in Canada’s most populous province, Ontario. Hydro One is a utility that is committed to operating safely in an environmentally and socially responsible manner. 


During this discussion we cover several topics including:

  • Hydro One’s unique and comprehensive in-house operations
  • Hydro One’s approach to scheduling work across its massive and diverse territory
  • Advice for young UVM professionals
  • The importance of safety in UVM operations
  • Hydro One’s approach and predictions for UVM related technology


We hope that you find this episode of The UVM Podcast insightful. If you have any feedback on the episode or suggestions for topics you’d like us to cover in future episodes, please feel free to get in contact at podcast@utilityvegetationmanagement.com.

A big thank you to this week's episode sponsor LiveEO.

31 May 202214 | Steve Martin, Powerlink Queensland00:32:15

In this episode we interview Steve Martin from Powerlink Queensland. Steve is the Senior Strategist for Land, Research and Development for Powerlink and works out of the greater Brisbane area of Australia.  

During this lively down-under discussion, Steve and the podcast hosts discuss a wide array of issues ranging from animal grazing on transmission ROWs to managing our UVM workloads as an asset - not a liability. It is also another episode where “the tyranny of distance” plays a role in UVM and bushfire mitigation (note: you can listen to earlier episodes with our other Australian guests if you don’t understand the reference – it’s a term that would apply to all large IOU UVM programs). 

During the conversation, Nick mentioned an article he wrote on harnessing the best elements of LIDAR (as-built surveys for ratings confirmation) with the best of satellite technology (monitoring vegetation to inform clearances, health and species). The article can be found here.

We hope that you find this episode of The UVM Podcast insightful and entertaining. If you have any feedback on the episode or suggestions for topics you’d like us to cover in future episodes, please feel free to get in contact at podcast@utilityvegetationmanagement.com.

A big thank you to this episode's sponsor, LiveEO.

21 Jun 202215 | Eliecer Viamontes, President and CEO, Entergy Texas00:33:53

In this episode we interview Eliecer Viamontes, the recently appointed President and CEO of Entergy Texas. Entergy serves about 3 million utility customers in Arkansas, Louisiana, Mississippi and Texas and they are no strangers to Utility Vegetation Management or the implications of tree and power line conflicts. 

During this inspiring discussion Eliecer not only outlines current priorities and accomplishments of Entergy Texas, he talks about his own background and experiences in running UVM programs. You heard that right, he is a utility company CEO that actually understands UVM and recognizes the value of our collective work. For those of us new to the UVM profession, Eliecer provides some great career advice. For those of us that are longer in the tooth, it’s about time that we moved an experienced UVM person into the C suite.

We hope that you find this episode of The UVM Podcast valuable and insightful. If you have any feedback on the episode or suggestions for topics you’d like us to cover in future episodes, please feel free to get in contact at podcast@utilityvegetationmanagement.com.

15 Aug 202216 | Integrated Vegetation Management & ROW Stewardship, Lewis Payne, Manager ROW/ Environmental, New York Power Authority (NYPA) **CEUs Available**00:47:33

In this episode (and at the suggestion of one of our subscribers- thanks Eric Owens at CNUC!) we interview Lewis Payne from the New York Power Authority (NYPA), the largest state-owned utility in the United States. Lewis (Lew) Payne is the Manager ROW/Environmental and a well-respected 30+ year veteran in the Transmission UVM industry. 

During this thoughtful discussion, Lew discusses his work on a variety of topics ranging from pollinator habitat and IVM, to the way the transmission industry was influenced by the August 14, 2003 Northeast Blackout.

We hope that you find this episode of The UVM Podcast insightful. If you have any feedback on the episode or suggestions for topics you’d like us to cover in future episodes, please feel free to get in contact at podcast@utilityvegetationmanagement.com.

A big thank you to this episode's sponsor, LiveEO.

**CEUs Available ** Visit the UAA website and click on quizzes or click this link. https://member.gotouaa.org/surveys/?id=UVM_Ep_19

24 Aug 202217 | The Rule of 70, Larry Kahn, Visiting Research Fellow, Tulane University Law School00:24:21

In this episode we discuss the “Rule of 70” with Larry Kahn, the Distinguished Research Fellow at Tulane Law School’s UVMI. This is the first episode, in a planned series of discussions with Larry, where we hope to raise issues worthy of consideration and debate in the UVM industry. 

During this episode Larry, Steve and Nick explain what the Rule of 70s is and why it may be one of the most important metrics a Utility Arborist needs to track. 

We hope that you find this episode of The UVM Podcast insightful. If you have any feedback on the episode or suggestions for topics you’d like us to cover in future episodes, please feel free to get in contact at podcast@utilityvegetationmanagement.com.

09 Sep 202218 | The Cradle Grave Asset Lifecycle (LiveEO, NV5 Geospatial, Planet)01:05:53

What is the cradle to grave asset lifecycle, and how do different forms of remote sensing come into play? Is satellite the ‘silver bullet’ of the remote sensing world that will entirely replace LiDAR or is the picture more nuanced than that? 

Steve and Nick are joined by Subject Matter Experts from LiveEO (Tony Palizzi), NV5 Geospatial (Jacob Hall) and Planet (Paulina Zubatov) to unpack the asset life cycle and examine, through a remote sensing lens, how geospatial technology can support each stage.

The NPR Podcast with Planet's founders that was mentioned during this recording can be found here. The NPR episode doesn't cover vegetation management but does provide interesting further context on the drivers of the NewSpace revolution.

We hope that you find this episode of The UVM Podcast insightful. If you have any feedback on the episode or suggestions for topics you’d like us to cover in future episodes, please feel free to get in contact at podcast@utilityvegetationmanagement.com.

24 Oct 202219 | Demarcation, Larry Kahn, Tulane University Law School **CEUs Available**00:23:05

In this episode we discuss the “the demarcation issue” with Larry Kahn, the Distinguished Research Fellow at Tulane Law School’s UVMI. This is the second episode, in a planned series of discussions with Larry, where we hope to raise issues worthy of consideration and debate in the UVM industry. 

During this episode Larry, Steve and Nick explain and discuss the demarcation issue and present ideas to reduce outages, fires and accidents. As with the Rule of 70 episode, this is an important to the UVM industry.

We hope that you find this episode of The UVM Podcast insightful. If you have any feedback on the episode or suggestions for topics you’d like us to cover in future episodes, please feel free to get in contact at podcast@utilityvegetationmanagement.com.

A note to listeners: this episode was recorded in early August. Senate Bill 396 in California was quashed in late August. We decided to run the episode anyway on the basis that we feel Demarcation is an important topic and SB 396 is a useful case study.

**CEUs Available ** Visit the UAA website and click on quizzes or click this link. https://member.gotouaa.org/surveys/?id=Demarcation_Podcast 

18 Feb 202320 | Artificial Intelligence and Utility Vegetation Management **CEUs Available**00:35:04

The integration of Artificial Intelligence (AI) into Utility Vegetation Management (UVM) is revolutionizing the way we manage vegetation around power lines, and the benefits are nothing short of impressive. AI is capable of processing and analyzing vast amounts of data collected from advanced remote sensing technologies like drones, LiDAR, and satellites. This analysis helps to identify potential vegetation risks and prioritize areas that require immediate attention, allowing utility companies to proactively mitigate the risk of outages and fires. This episode explores this emerging technology, providing insights on the many ways it is transforming UVM and improving the overall safety and reliability of our power grids.

 In this fascinating episode, Nick and Steve dive deep into the world of AI with ChatGPT, DALL-E, and MidJourney - accessible AI engines that are transforming industries. Listeners will gain valuable insights into a wide range of AI/UVM related topics, including the Turing Test, the potential of AI in UVM, and the threats and benefits of AI. The interview is full of surprises, with Nick and Steve challenging AI to create UVM artwork based purely on a few descriptive sentences in common English. The results are both stunning and eye-opening.

 If you are interested in learning more about how AI is transforming UVM and society at large, this episode is a must-listen. It provides a unique opportunity to learn about a cutting-edge technology that is revolutionizing the way we manage vegetation around power lines, making our power grids safer, and more reliable.

We hope that you find this episode of The UVM Podcast insightful. If you have any feedback on the episode or suggestions for topics you’d like us to cover in future episodes, please feel free to get in contact at podcast@utilityvegetationmanagement.com. A big thank you to this episode's sponsor, LiveEO.

**CEUs Available ** Visit the UAA website and click on quizzes or click this link. https://member.gotouaa.org/surveys/?id=AI_to_VM

19 Mar 202321 | US vs. Europe: Response to the 2003 Blackouts, Lex Kumar00:42:49

In the aftermath of the 2003 tree related blackouts, North America and Europe responded differently to the issue of regulating their electricity grids. North America adopted a highly regulated approach with clear standards and enforcement mechanisms, resulting in fewer large-scale blackouts. Meanwhile, Europe struggled with a lack of centralized regulation and cross-border enforcement mechanisms, leading to disparities in UVM programs, but greater flexibility in adopting new, greener technologies to address climate change.

Overall, the lessons learned from the 2003 blackouts have highlighted the importance of clear regulation, independent and reliable regulatory agencies, and adaptability in the face of climate change. As we continue to face these challenges, it is crucial that we not lose sight of the need to ensure a reliable and efficient power grid for all, on both sides of the pond.

In this fascinating episode, Nick and Steve discuss the work of Tulane Law School student Lex Kumar in her retrospective  analysis  of the North American and European Blackouts of 2003. Lex discusses the similarities of each event and how the governments responded to these historic tree related blackouts. Lex can be contact at LKumar1@tulane.edu.

We hope that you find this episode of The UVM Podcast insightful. If you have any feedback on the episode or suggestions for topics you’d like us to cover in future episodes, please feel free to get in contact at podcast@utilityvegetationmanagement.com.

A big thank you to this episode’s sponsor, LiveEO (www.live-eo.com).





18 May 202322 | Electricity Canada, Dan Gent **CEUs Available**00:43:55

In this podcast interview, Nick and Steve, hosts of The UVM Podcast, interview Dan Gent, Director of Transmission and Reliability at Electricity Canada, a national forum and voice of the evolving and innovative electricity business in Canada. Dan explains his background and role at Electricity Canada, working within a trade association to represent its members to broader stakeholder groups such as the federal government and other regulatory organizations. He discusses the importance of transmission reliability and how it has been his area of focus for over a decade. Dan also highlights the challenges for transmission reliability across Canada, particularly extreme weather events such as ice storms. The discussion also touches on vegetation management, where Dan explains that as an association, they collect data on tree-related outages and provide that to their members. They also conducted a benchmarking study on vegetation management and found that trees account for 19% of customer interruptions and over 33% of the duration of an outage. Dan also shares insights on the Wildfire Mitigation Guide, a recommendation for what to do to prevent wildfires, from ATV spark plugs to vegetation management practices. The guide was a collective effort from utilities, and Dan explains how it's a living document that is reviewed every 3-5 years with experts to ensure it is still relevant with wildfire prevention technologies and tactics.

A big thank you to this episode's sponsor, LiveEO

We hope that you find this episode of The UVM Podcast insightful. If you have any feedback on the episode or suggestions for topics you’d like us to cover in future episodes, please feel free to get in contact at podcast@utilityvegetationmanagement.com.

**CEUs are available on the UAA website here**

23 Aug 202323 | Madelyn Anderson, Powerline Bushfire Safety Program, Victoria, Australia (part 1) **CEUs Available**00:47:32

In this episode of The UVM Podcast, hosts Steve and Nick are joined by guest Madelyn Anderson, Senior Policy Officer of the Powerline Bushfire Safety Program at the Department of Energy, Environment and Climate Action in Victoria, Australia. The conversation covers a range of topics related to UVM, risk reduction, and powerline-related wildfires in the State of Victoria.

Madelyn introduces herself and discusses her involvement with policy design after significant bushfire events in Australia. She highlights the increasing consequences of bushfires due to population expansion in high-risk areas and the impact of climate change on fire frequency and severity.

They delve into Victoria's history of bushfires, including events like Black Saturday, and the impact of powerlines on ignitions. Madelyn describes the lessons learned from past wildfires and how they have influenced current practices and policies in Utility Vegetation Management.

The discussion explores various strategies employed by the government to address vegetation management and minimize the risk of powerline-related wildfires. Madelyn details initiatives such as the Powerline Bushfire Safety Taskforce and advancements in technology for risk reduction.

Madelyn explains the challenges of managing vegetation near powerlines while respecting Victoria's unique flora, fauna, and cultural heritage. They also discuss community engagement and public awareness efforts to educate residents about powerline safety and the importance of vegetation management.

The success of the Powerline Bushfire Safety Program is highlighted, with significant reductions in ignition risk achieved through capital programs. 

Throughout the episode, the hosts and guest provide insights into the complexities of managing powerline-related wildfire risks and share valuable information about Victoria's approach to Utility Vegetation Management.

The episode is split in two, of which this is part 1

Many thanks to this episode's sponsor, LiveEO (www.live-eo.com).

** CEUs --> visit the UAA Website to complete the questionnaire and receive your CEUs from ISA here

06 Sep 202324 | Madelyn Anderson, Powerline Bushfire Safety Program, Victoria, Australia (part 2) **CEUs available**00:26:41

Part 2

In this episode of The UVM Podcast, hosts Steve and Nick are joined by guest Madelyn Anderson, Senior Policy Officer of the Powerline Bushfire Safety Program at the Department of Energy, Environment and Climate Action in Victoria, Australia. The conversation covers a range of topics related to UVM, risk reduction, and powerline-related wildfires in the State of Victoria.

Madelyn introduces herself and discusses her involvement with policy design after significant bushfire events in Australia. She highlights the increasing consequences of bushfires due to population expansion in high-risk areas and the impact of climate change on fire frequency and severity.

They delve into Victoria's history of bushfires, including events like Black Saturday, and the impact of powerlines on ignitions. Madelyn describes the lessons learned from past wildfires and how they have influenced current practices and policies in Utility Vegetation Management.

The discussion explores various strategies employed by the government to address vegetation management and minimize the risk of powerline-related wildfires. Madelyn details initiatives such as the Powerline Bushfire Safety Taskforce and advancements in technology for risk reduction.

Madelyn explains the challenges of managing vegetation near powerlines while respecting Victoria's unique flora, fauna, and cultural heritage. They also discuss community engagement and public awareness efforts to educate residents about powerline safety and the importance of vegetation management.

The success of the Powerline Bushfire Safety Program is highlighted, with significant reductions in ignition risk achieved through capital programs. 

Throughout the episode, the hosts and guest provide insights into the complexities of managing powerline-related wildfire risks and share valuable information about Victoria's approach to Utility Vegetation Management.

The episode is split in two, of which this is part 2.

Many thanks to this episode's sponsor, LiveEO (www.live-eo.com).

** CEUs --> visit the UAA Website to complete the questionnaire and receive your CEUs from ISA here

05 Oct 202325 | Jeremy Hayward, Redding Rancheria, Native American Tribe **CEUs available**00:49:16

In an engaging podcast episode, Nick and Steve are joined by Jeremy Hayward, a member of the Redding Rancheria nation and President of the Redding Rancheria Economic Development Corporation (REDDCO). Jeremy also represents and speaks about the Native American owned UVM company, Essential Vegetation Management Services (EVMS).

Jeremy delves into the rich tapestry of Traditional Ecological Knowledge (TEK), a treasure trove of indigenous communities' wisdom, practices, and beliefs that revolves around the symbiotic relationship between life and its environment. With a blend of culture, spirituality, history, and profound understanding of ecosystems, TEK stands as a testament to the intricate balance of nature. Jeremy emphasizes TEK's relevance in today's world, spotlighting its pivotal role in areas like conservation, climate change adaptation, biodiversity, and the holistic perspective it offers on ecosystems.

The discussion traverses the practical applications of TEK, particularly among Native American tribes in California. Jeremy shares enlightening examples from tribes such as the Wintu, Pit River, and Yana, highlighting their age-old practices like controlled burns, sustainable resource management, plant cultivation, and active land stewardship.

Branching out from TEK, Jeremy sheds light on his extensive array of companies with a vision focused on sustainability across "Seven Generations." He speaks with pride about their groundbreaking initiatives in green hydrogen production, harnessing waste from UVM operations to forge a sustainable energy path.

Jeremy also touches upon his collaborative efforts, alongside a team of volunteer companies, to electrify the Navajo Nation, bringing much-needed power to their communities.

We trust you'll find this edition of The UVM Podcast enlightening. Should you have feedback or suggestions for upcoming topics, please don't hesitate to reach out to us at podcast@utilityvegetationmanagement.com.

A big thank you to this episode's sponsor, LiveEO.

**CEUs available on the Utility Arborist Association (UAA) website here **

15 Jan 202426 | Tim Walsh, The Davey Tree Expert Company00:54:11

In this episode, Nick and Steve have the privilege of hosting Tim Walsh, a key member of the UVM industry with decades of  experience and a passionate advocate for safety. Tim, a former president of the UAA and current VP of Health and Safety at Davey Tree Company, kicks off the conversation by shedding light on the various committees available for UAA members to join and actively engage with the organization.

Highlighting Trees and Utilities as the premier event in the UVM industry, Tim reflects on the significance of the event, drawing attention to the wealth of educational opportunities, research insights, networking, and hands-on experiences with cutting-edge equipment. With over 1,000 attendees in 2023, the event has become a cornerstone for students, contractors, employees, and vendors.

The conversation then shifts to safety, where Tim emphasizes the importance of fostering a strong overall culture within organizations, one in which individuals exhibit consistent behavior in both personal and professional realms. Tim explains why there should not be a separate “Safety Culture”, rather, it should be an integral part of the overall culture. He advocates for a shift in focus from merely addressing what goes wrong to celebrating what goes right, transforming the narrative around safety. Tim challenges the traditional notions of "zero incidents" and "all incidents are preventable," offering fresh perspectives on cultivating a resilient safety system.

As the discussion evolves, Tim provides valuable insights into upcoming changes in safety standards and rules within the UVM industry. He emphasizes that safety is not merely the absence of accidents but the presence of resilience in the system. Tim advocates for the incorporation of research and statistics in safety discussions, urging a holistic approach to enhance safety practices.

In looking toward the future of safety in UVM, Tim explores ongoing challenges such as recruiting, retention, and employee engagement. He underscores the need to embed safety as an integral part of a company's culture and leaves listeners with a thoughtful reflection on the evolving landscape of safety within the UVM industry. Lastly Tim, Nick and Steve discuss some of the exciting technologies available in the UVM industry and how they can be used to enhance safety.

We trust you’ll find this edition of the UVM Podcast enlightening. Should you have feedback or suggestions for upcoming topics, please don’t hesitate to reach out to us at podcast@utilityvegetationmanagement.com.

14 Feb 202427 | Eric Brown, Sacramento Municipal Utility District (SMUD)01:04:58

In today’s episode of The UVM Podcast, hosts Nick and Steve are joined by industry thought leader Eric Brown, Manager of Grid Assets for Electric T&D Vegetation Management at Sacramento Municipal Utility District (SMUD). Eric shares the serendipitous story of how he was first introduced to a career in the UVM field—right in a parking lot! Reflecting on his time at PG&E in various roles, Eric highlights the invaluable insights he gained from colleagues, peers, and consultants. Eventually, shared corridors and previous collaborations led Eric to his current role with SMUD, where he manages their T&D programs. Eric also sheds light on the nuances of SMUD's condensed yet unique service territory, spanning from desolate wilderness to the California State Capitol.

The conversation then shifts to discussing the organizational and regulatory differences between Municipalities and Investor-Owned Utilities (IOUs), with the ultimate assertion that both share a common goal of safety and reliability. They delve into some of SMUD’s specific programs, including their partnership with the Sacramento Tree Foundation, which supports the improvement of the Urban Forest as well as Social Equity in UVM.

After reminiscing on Eric’s past role as UAA President and his continued involvement in the organization, they have a candid conversation about the industry's pressing issues. Topics range from consistency in UVM programs to the efficacy of cycle-based programs, with a significant discussion about technology's role and its continuing importance, particularly in inspection and quality control. As the discussion covers the evolving landscape of UVM work, they also address fires and other weather-related events. Eric outlines his participation in developing a program for managing risks around SMUD’s assets, specifically focusing on risks not within Right of Way or easements. This is followed by an insightful look at efforts being made to increase visibility and appeal of UVM Work as a career

Wrapping up, Eric shares the inspiring work he is doing with Light Up Navajo. More information about Light Up Navajo can be found at https://www.ntua.com/.

We trust you’ll find this edition of the UVM Podcast enlightening. Should you have feedback or suggestions for upcoming topics, please don’t hesitate to reach out to us at podcast@utilityvegetationmanagement.com.

06 May 202428 | Utility Vegetation Management Institute, Larry Kahn, Tulane University Law School00:37:43

In this episode, Steve is joined by a very special, and tough, guest co-host in Nick’s absence. The episode kicks off with Steve’s co-host sharing an update on all of the amazing work they have been doing since they last spoke. Once Steve and his co-host are caught up, they are joined by Professor Lawrence J.  Kahn. Larry is an adjunct professor at Tulane University and Co-founder of the Utility Vegetation Management Institute (UVMI). This is the fourth episode, in a planned series of discussions with Professor Kahn, where we hope to raise issues worthy of consideration and debate in the UVM industry. 

Professor Kahn begins with an exciting update on what is going on with UVMI including a sneak peek at the upcoming UVMI Conference and a brief update on the progress being made to secure an esteemed collection of UVMI Expert Advisors. 

Larry then delves into his work supporting California’s Wildfire Safety Advisory Board (WSAB), highlighting his involvement in leading a scoping meeting that contributed to the WSAB's recent recommendations to the state, which were subsequently adopted. The conversation explores various WSAB recommendations, such as standardized terminology and the necessity for further studies on wildfire prevention in California.

Finally, the group discusses the importance of equitable cost-sharing among utility providers to bolster wildfire prevention efforts.

RESOURCES
Here is the URL for the WSAB’s publication: https://energysafety.ca.gov/news/2024/02/07/wsab-adopts-policy-paper-recommendations/

05 Sep 202429 | Dennis Fallon, Utility Arborist Association, Brian Eubanks, PG&E/ Saluting Branches00:35:20

In this episode of the UVM Podcast, hosts Nick and Steve sit down with Dennis Fallon, Executive Director of the Utility Arborist Association (UAA), to discuss the highly anticipated Trees & Utilities Conference. This year’s event will be held in Fort Worth, Texas, from September 10th to September 12th, and it’s shaping up to be one of the largest gatherings yet. Dennis shares his excitement about the record-breaking attendance expected this year and expresses his gratitude for the hard work behind the scenes that’s making this event possible.

The discussion highlights the many aspects that make Trees & Utilities the must-attend event in the industry, including valuable networking opportunities, the sold-out vendor showcase, and the highly anticipated Annual Awards Dinner. The hosts and Dennis agree that what truly sets this conference apart is the camaraderie and knowledge-sharing that takes place throughout the week. Nick also mentions that he’ll be putting on an Oktoberfest celebration with US and German colleagues at the conference, so be sure to find him for some pretzels and steins of beer!

As they talk about the Annual Awards Dinner, the conversation turns to a heartfelt tribute to Dan Marsh, a former Lifetime Achievement Award winner and industry legend, who sadly passed away last week. Dennis, Nick, and Steve reflect on Dan’s contributions to the field and remember him as a true professional and gentleman.

Finally, Dennis encourages all attendees to download the Conference App before the event and to provide feedback through the event survey to help the team continue delivering an exceptional experience year after year.

Later in the episode, Steve is joined by Brian Eubanks, a U.S. Navy veteran and active member of the UVM industry, to discuss Saluting Branches and their upcoming day of service. Saluting Branches is a nonprofit organization founded by arborists to honor and assist veterans by providing tree care services at national cemeteries and other veteran properties. This year’s annual event will take place on Wednesday, September 18th.

Brian shares the mission of Saluting Branches and explains why his role as the site leader for the Sacramento Valley National Cemetery is so meaningful to him. He emphasizes the importance of giving back to those who have served and encourages listeners to get involved.

For more information on how to participate in Saluting Branches, visit https://www.salutingbranches.org/ 

For more information on Trees and Utilities, visit https://www.treesandutilities.org/agenda.cfm

10 Dec 202430 | Ben Silverman, International Wildfire Risk Mitigation Consortium (IWRMC)00:28:46

In this episode, Nick and Steve are joined by Ben Silverman. Ben is a Program Director at E-Source, who is one of the founding members of the International Wildfire Risk Mitigation Consortium (IWRMC). They begin by discussing the mission of the IWRMC and the history behind its creation. Ben shares the structure they have established to ensure that their monthly conversations are collaborative and productive while navigating complex regulatory requirements. After sharing an overview of the four areas the IWRMC focuses on, Ben then gives a more in-depth look at how the group is looking at Vegetation Management. The conversation wraps up with a look forward to what is in store for the IWRMC and a look back at some of the group's accomplishments thus far. 

If you are interested in joining IWRMC, you can contact Ben at ben_silverman@esource.com To find out more about IWRMC, visit https://www.esource.com/public/international-wildfire-risk-mitigation-consortium 

12 Aug 202100 | The UVM Podcast Introduction (Pilot)00:09:50

An introduction to The Utility Vegetation Management Podcast. This pilot episode describes the three principal reasons we do this work:

  1. The first reason we manage trees near power lines has to do with preventing outages. In most places across North America, tree and powerline conflicts are the single largest cause of power outages on distribution systems. Trees, either growing into, or more often than not,  falling into power lines are the main reason why our lights go out. 
  2. The second reason for UVM has to do with fire mitigation. For those of you in fire prone states and provinces, tree and powerline conflicts have been a significant cause of devastating electric utility related wildfires in recent years, particularly out here in California. To illustrate that point, a staggering 65% of the total hectares, or acres,  burned in California in 2019 were found to be caused by electric facilities.
  3. UVM is also focused on public and worker safety.  When trees grow too close to overhead energized lines there is a risk that someone can get hurt. This type of exposure turns out to be one the largest causes of accidents and fatalities in the green industry

Our intent is to provide a forum for people involved in this industry to learn about issues that will have an effect on preventing tree and power line conflicts. We want to bring you informative interviews with industry professionals and also discuss topics of interest to anyone involved with this industry. We’ll be interviewing utilities, regulators, policy makers, tree contractors and technologists.

30 Nov 202106 | Satellite remote sensing for Utility Vegetation Management, Sven Pryzwara, CEO, LiveEO00:37:43

In this episode we interview Sven Przywarra, Co-Founder of LiveEO, to discuss satellite remote sensing for Utility Vegetation Management. In recent years, the privatization of space and a reduction in the costs of accessing space has led to a proliferation in the number of earth observation satellites and the capabilities of these constellations. This raises the question of whether the T&D industry, and in particular the vegetation management community, can benefit from the technology. It’s a hot topic - with several presentations exploring different aspects of the technology at the recent Trees and Utilities conference. In today’s episode we cover a range of  topics including:

  • An introduction to satellite remote sensing
  • Legacy practices for inspecting vegetation
  • Sven’s background & how he became involved in space technology
  • The economics and technology trends reshaping space
  • UVM use cases for earth observation satellites 
  • Satellite vs. LIDAR - are they competitive or complementary? 
  • Limitations of satellite datasets
  • What LiveEO has built for the UVM community
  • The benefits of satellite imagery for vegetation managers

We hope that you find this episode of The UVM Podcast insightful. If you have any feedback on the episode or suggestions for topics you’d like us to cover in future episodes, please feel free to get in contact at podcast@utilityvegetationmanagement.com


Sven can be found on LinkedIN here and the LiveEO website is here

11 Oct 202102 | Tulane's Utility Vegetation Management Initiative (UVMI), Larry Kahn, Visiting Research Fellow, Tulane University Law School **CEUs Available**00:56:53

** 1 CEU credit from the International Society of Arboriculture (ISA) available to Utility Arborist Association members. Complete the questionnaire on the UAA website here. **

For decades, the UVM industry has been supported by several organizations known to us all. A short list of those groups includes the UAA, ISA, EEI, Arbor Day, CEATI and EPRI. In this podcast, we speak to a new academically-centered organization, housed at Tulane University Law School, that is also focused on UVM related issues. Going forward in time, Tulane’s Utility Vegetation Management Initiative (UVMI) will have a pivotal role in shaping the myriad issues related to our work.

On this episode, our guest is Lawrence Kahn, Visiting Research Fellow at Tulane Law School's Center for Environmental Law. Larry is heading up the Tulane UVMI and we discuss many of the Tulane initiatives directly involving UVM. In this provocative discussion, Larry will cover multiple issues. For example:

  •  Tulane’s work with Arbor Day Foundation to develop a model “Right Tree - Right Place” tree ordinance
  • Why UVM is an important issue for everyone
  • Social justice and environmental issues related to UVM
  • Tulane’s multi-national UVM law and regulation survey
  • Other issues scheduled to be addressed by Tulane’s UVMI

We guarantee you will find the topics interesting, possibly controversial, and definitely thought provoking.

03 Nov 202104 | Liberty Utilities, Jason Grossman, Manager, Vegetation Management **CEUs available**00:28:37

Liberty Utilities is an operating company of Algonquin Power, serving over 1 million customers across 13 US States and 1 Canadian Province with some $6.8BN in regulated utility assets. 

On this episode, our guest is Jason Grossman, Manager - Vegetation Management at Liberty Utilities (Missouri). In this discussion, Jason will cover: 

  • How he got started in Utility Vegetation Management
  • The impact of ice storms on the grid and the role of vegetation management in response efforts
  • The role of the Missouri Public Service Commission in setting funding requirements
  • Liberty Utilities (Missouri) reliability statistics vs. benchmarks (SAIDI, SAIFI) 
  • Integrated Vegetation Management and responsible stewardship
  • New technology and the impact of this on the Liberty Utilities (Missouri) VM program

This is the first utility interview published by The UVM Podcast. If you have any feedback on the episode or suggestions for topics you’d like us to cover in future episodes, please feel free to get in contact at podcast@utilityvegetationmanagement.com.

CEU Quiz here.

14 Dec 202107 | Seattle City Light, David Bayard, Vegetation Management00:23:59

In this episode we interview David Bayard, the Vegetation Manager at Seattle City Light, the 10th largest publicly owned utility in the United States. With a job that includes oversight and involvement with both UVM and the municipal/urban forest, David provides insights into what some have wrongly considered to be competing interests. During this thoughtful, and at times philosophic interview, we discuss a range of topical issues including:

  • How an English Literature major moves from prose to UVM
  • The history of Seattle City Light
  • The migrating fire problem in Washington State 
  • Potential changes to utility practices as a result of the increased threat of fires in the Pacific Northwest.
  • Seattle City Light’s customer focus and accomplishments
  • Successfully managing priorities for canopy cover, social equity, and the need for providing safe and reliable electric service.  
  • Seattle City Light’s past and future UVM-related Tech capabilities

We hope that you find this episode of The UVM Podcast insightful. If you have any feedback on the episode or suggestions for topics you’d like us to cover in future episodes, please feel free to get in contact at podcast@utilityvegetationmanagement.com.

01 Oct 202101 | Office of Energy Infrastructure Safety, Director Caroline Thomas Jacobs **CEUs Available**00:17:47

** 0.5 CEU credit from the International Society of Arboriculture (ISA) available to Utility Arborist Association members. Complete the questionnaire on the UAA website here. **

The new California Office of Energy Infrastructure Safety – an interview with Director Caroline Thomas Jacobs

The increasing prevalence of devastating wildland fires in California has resulted in the creation of a new utility oversight agency that has had significant impacts on how UVM is performed in the state. This new and powerful agency is focused on preventing fires related to energy related infrastructure (Energy Safety) and UVM is an important part of this effort. In this interview, Steve and Nick speak to the new Director of Energy Safety, Caroline Thomas Jacobs, and covers the following topics:

 Background and history of the organization

  • Tree and powerline related fires
  • Various state and utility efforts to mitigate and prevent electric utility related fires
  • The reporting requirements and Wildfires Mitigation Plans for utilities
  • New Tech being utilized by utilities and the state
  • The work of the new Energy Safety organization

This episode will provide an insight into a unique and new oversight organization that may be replicated in other regions in North America. The work of Energy Safety has already had significant impact on how utilities perform vegetation work in the state and has expanded the scope and responsibilities of UVM professionals.    

19 Oct 202103 | The Utility Arborist Association, Outgoing Executive Director, Dr. Philip Charlton, Incoming Executive Director, Dennis Fallon **CEUs Available**00:24:35

** 0.5 CEU credits from the International Society of Arboriculture (ISA) are available to Utility Arborist Association members. Complete the questionnaire on the UAA website here. **

The Utility Arborist Association (UAA) – Decades of Support for the UVM Industry

 For almost a half century, the Utility Arborist Association has worked towards its stated mission that  “We will drive excellence, innovation, and improvement in utility vegetation management through professional development, outreach, research, and the use of best practices.” With over 5,000 members worldwide the UAA has been an important and impactful voice in the industry and has had a significant role in raising the awareness of UVM. After a decade of leadership under the direction of Executive Director Dr. Phil Charlton, Phil has recently handed the reins to Dennis Fallon. 

In this interview, Steve and Nick speak to both the incoming and outgoing Executive Directors of the UAA and discuss a myriad of historical and contemporary issues including:

 

  • Background and history
  • The important work of the UAA
  • UVM educational opportunities
  • The work of Consulting Utility Foresters (CUF)
  • Who are the members of the UAA and what are the benefits of membership
  • The industry loss of Nelsen Money and Will Nutter
  • Dr. Phil Charlton’s reflections on his career and work at the UAA
  • Dennis Fallon’s vision for the future of the UAA

 

For members of the UAA, this episode will provide a reminder how important the UAA has been and will be in the future. For non-members, it’s time to join right here: https://member.gotouaa.org/page/UAAMembership   

05 Jan 202208 | Why do conductors sag and sway? Power Line Systems, Otto Lynch, President & CEO **CEUs Available**00:23:35

** 0.5 CEU credit from the International Society of Arboriculture (ISA) available to Utility Arborist Association members. Complete the questionnaire on the UAA website here. **

This episode features an interview is with a Professional Engineer, Otto Lynch, President & CEO of Power Line Systems. Conductors can move during the course of a day under different electrical loading and weather scenarios, a phenomenon known as sag and sway, which is not always well understood. Sag and sway can have a major impact on vegetation management as the movement envelope needs to be taken into account to ensure that acceptable clearances between conductors and vegetation are maintained during all operating conditions. In today’s episode Otto provides a 101 on sag and sway and the impact this has on the work of UVM staff. We cover several topics in detail including:


  • What conductors are made of and why they expand and contract with temperature
  • How expansion and contraction affects tension and sag
  • Weather and electrical load variables that contribute to sag and sway (blow out)
  • Why knowing the conductor movement envelope is essential for UVM
  • Structure deflection in response to weather
  • The impact of ice storms on sag and sway, including conductor elongation
  • The role of PLS-CADD in modeling clearances
  • Thoughts on the future direction of technology


We hope that you find this episode of The UVM Podcast helpful. If you have any feedback on the episode or suggestions for topics you’d like us to cover in future episodes, please feel free to get in contact at podcast@utilityvegetationmanagement.com


Otto can be found on LinkedIN here and the PLS-CADD website is here.



15 Nov 202105 | Essential Energy, Heath Frewin, Manager Strategy - Vegetation **CEUs Available**00:29:07

This episode includes a short round up from the Trees and Utilities conference in Minneapolis followed by an in-depth interview with our first Australian guest, Heath Frewin, Manager Strategy - Vegetation at Essential Energy. Essential Energy is one of Australia’s largest networks delivering electricity to a staggering 95% of New South Wales, Australia’s most populous state, including some 865,000 homes and businesses. The service territory is a whopping 737,000 square kilometers, from the Wadbilliga National Park in the south of the state to the Gold Coast in Queensland to the north, an area larger than Texas. Essential Energy is state-owned, and is responsible for over 180,000 km (or 112,000 miles) of sub-transmission and distribution lines. Heath is a forester by background and has held several senior roles advancing asset management and vegetation strategy. As we all know, Australia is dealing with many of the same challenges that we are dealing with here in North America, including drought conditions and heightened wildfire threat. This episode covers several topics including: 

  • How Heath got started in Utility Vegetation Management
  • Advice for young professionals entering the industry
  • Strategic decisions taken to manage risk through moving funds from pruning activities into removing fall-in risk trees in high bushfire risk areas
  • NSW State regulations and legislation, and how this impacts the VM program
  • Moving from a planned cyclical maintenance regime into a predictive maintenance regime as Essential Energy’s digital asset management capability develops
  • Impacts on the 2019/ 2020 Black Summer fires on the utility, the wider community, and individuals
  • The relationship between Total Fire Ban days and network-initiated fires 
  • Approaching the fire season - planning and mitigation, response during the event, and continuous improvement

This is the first Australian interview published by The UVM Podcast. If you have any feedback on the episode or suggestions for topics you’d like us to cover in future episodes, please feel free to get in contact at podcast@utilityvegetationmanagement.com


Heath can be found on LinkedIN here.

CEUs available here

18 Jan 202209 | What should you expect if you are involved in a UVM lawsuit? **CEUs Available**00:40:31

** 1 CEU credit from the International Society of Arboriculture (ISA) is available to Utility Arborist Association members. Complete the questionnaire on the UAA website here. **

In this episode we interview Randy Gimple, a founding partner of Carlson, Calladine & Peterson LLP, a litigation firm in San Francisco, California. Over his 34 years in the practice, he has handled hundreds of catastrophic and mass tort cases involving wildfires, explosions, floods and various other calamities. Randy is one of the nation’s premier wildfire litigators and has been involved with numerous high profile legal cases directly related to tree and power line conflicts. 

In this fascinating discussion, Randy provides insights and practical advice for people involved with UVM. Whether or utility employee or UVM service provider, listeners will learn about a myriad of legal topics and issues that will help them in preparing for involvement in legal proceedings. During this thoughtful, and at times philosophic interview, we discuss a range of topical legal issues including:

  • What types of legal cases are common in the UVM industry
  • The typical anatomy of a UVM related legal case
  • Who can expect to become involved with these cases (Utilities and Vendors)
  • Reasonableness and standards of care
  • Insurance subrogation
  • Inverse Condemnation 
  • UVM legal tips, before, during, and after an event

We hope that you find this episode of The UVM Podcast insightful. If you have any feedback on the episode or suggestions for topics you’d like us to cover in future episodes, please feel free to get in contact at podcast@utilityvegetationmanagement.com.

Randy's contact information can be found here.

Thank you to this week's sponsor, LiveEO

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