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20 Sep 2022Why 75% of scale-ups will have RevOps00:33:27

Whether you already have RevOps or just thinking about it, you might want to put on your headphones and listen in.

We discuss why most b2b SaaS companies have or will have revenue operations by 2025. We get into how the team evolves with the business, how you can get more value from RevOps and succeed.

18 Jun 2024Secrets to winning in hyper competitive markets00:34:07

What can we learn from hyper competitive markets in SaaS? That's exactly what we asked in this episode. We get into the pitfalls and strategies you can use to do better against the competition.

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (03:44) - Hyper compeitive markets
  • (06:12) - Pitfalls to watch out for
  • (10:18) - Disruption happens
  • (13:42) - What are folks gonna do?
  • (15:04) - Horizontal vs vertical SaaS
  • (19:05) - Outcompete on differentiation
  • (25:33) - Outcompete on GTM
  • (30:48) - Outcompete on cash

*** 

This episode is brought to you by Growblocks. Finding and fixing problems in your GTM shouldn't take weeks. It should happen instantly.


That's why Growblocks built the first RevOps platform that shows you your entire funnel, split by motions, segments and more - so you can find problems, the root-cause and identify solutions fast, all in the same platform.


***

Connect with us


🔔 LinkedIn: Toni / Mikkel

✉️ Newsletter: revenueletter.substack.com 

📺 Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@growblocks
💬 Contact: podcast@growblocks.com

29 Feb 2024If your messaging sucks, listen to this (with Anthony Pierri, co-founder at Fletch)00:49:52

How often do you visit a SaaS website and have literally no clue what they do despite multiple attempts? We'll, that's a surefire way to decrease your overall performance.

So we invited Anthony from Fletch to help fix it - we focused on the difficulties especially surrounding being multi-product or segment.

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (01:33) - Meet Anthony Pierri
  • (06:31) - Ugh messaging - why even bother?
  • (12:01) - It's not just about outcomes
  • (16:24) - Lead with one thing
  • (20:59) - The channel changer
  • (22:18) - Sell the suite
  • (23:43) - What do you want to be known for?
  • (27:53) - The problem with being visionary
  • (34:42) - How do you get it used?
  • (40:15) - Picking the usecase
26 Dec 2023Why marketing gets screwed00:34:01

There are three ways marketing gets screwed - we discuss them all to help you unscrew marketing.

In the episode, we get into:

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (02:05) - 3 reasons marketing gets screwed
  • (03:21) - Your deal or my deal
  • (13:28) - Make marketing do everything
  • (24:38) - We need it now
29 Jun 2023Special: Revenue Planning (With Ben Murray)00:41:04

We’ve been zinging finance a bit on the show. Today we decided to invite a SaaS CFO, Ben Murray.


We talked about how the two functions should create a solid revenue plan together - how to manage crazy ambitions and much more.


  • (00:00) - Introduction: Finance + RevOps
  • (03:52) - How the CFO sees RevOps
  • (05:22) - The focus is on sales and marketing
  • (07:09) - Getting operational
  • (08:32) - CFOs
  • (10:43) - What planning looks like
  • (15:02) - Hidden improvements
  • (24:22) - Driving the plan forward
  • (26:16) - Creating flexibility in the plan
  • (31:01) - Selling to the CFO
  • (33:16) - Making the case
  • (38:53) - Where should RevOps report to?

About Ben

Ben is a fractional CFO and founder of TheSaaSCFO.com and TheSaaSAcademy.com

Want more from Ben? Check out his newsletter here https://mailchi.mp/df1db6bf8bca/the-saas-cfo-sign-up-landing-page

28 Nov 2024Why 70% of Sales Jobs Might Disappear (with Jacco van der Kooij)01:06:39

Have you read the phrase “AI won’t replace your job, but people who use AI will”? Well, that's not entirely true.

In today's episode, we discuss how AI is disrupting the entire GTM at the moment - and we discuss it with Jacco van der Kooij.

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (04:24) - How AI is transforming GTM
  • (15:01) - AI: Volume, cost and... what's the last one?
  • (20:43) - Beyond talking leaflets
  • (26:04) - Agentic World and AI Sub-Agents
  • (30:13) - The First Mover Advantage
  • (35:09) - From shovel to excavator
  • (39:53) - The Three Storms
  • (45:16) - The Rise of Vertical SaaS
  • (53:11) - AI's Exponential Growth and Future Impact

References


This episode is brought to you by by Everstage - the highest rated Sales Commissions Platform on G2, Gartner Peer Insights, Trustradius with over 2,000+ customer reviews. Some of their customers include leading brands like Diligent, Wiley, Trimble, Postman, Chargebee etc.,

You can go to https://www.everstage.com/revenue-formula to check out Everstage and mention Revenue Formula to unlock a personalized Sales Compensation Strategy Session with Everstage’s RevOps experts—crafted for enterprise teams to maximize performance.

Never miss a new episode, join our newsletter on revenueformula.substack.com

13 Feb 20244 Signs your GTM is broken00:34:47

Is your GTM broken? What do you even look for? Why does it matter?

That's just some of the points we cover in this episode. Besides giving you four clear things to look out for - we also share some solutions. The outcome? You should see improved performance & efficiency.

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (03:09) - The stakes
  • (08:35) - Disconnected operations
  • (10:20) - Reporting isn't aligned
  • (15:08) - No shared language
  • (22:03) - Disconnected execution
  • (33:28) - Wrapup

Mentions
David Sacks & Jason Lemkin at SaaStr
GTM consortium

*** 

This episode is brought to you by Growblocks. Finding and fixing problems in your GTM shouldn't take weeks. It should happen instantly.


That's why Growblocks built the first RevOps platform that shows you your entire funnel, split by motions, segments and more - so you can find problems, the root-cause and identify solutions fast, all in the same platform.


***

CONNECT
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🔔 LinkedIn: Toni / Mikkel

✉️ Email: podcast@growblocks.com

19 Dec 2023New research: Did we lose GTM fit?00:34:10

Our friends over at winning by design is about to drop new research - suggesting that we might just have lost GTM fit.

In todays episode, we discuss the research, and as usual what companies can do about it.

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (03:49) - Loss of go-to-market fit?
  • (06:25) - Why did we lose it?
  • (15:52) - What do we do now?
  • (17:11) - Cut strategically
  • (22:30) - Run a GTM diagnostic
  • (27:12) - Improve in increments

You can find the research here.
Also check out David Spitz
03 Dec 2024Take advantage of this zero day exploit now00:32:45

If you're the first to exploit a new opportunity, your advantage will only get bigger over time. 

So, is there an exploit you can take advantage of? Find out in the episode.

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (03:06) - Understanding Zero Day Exploits
  • (05:36) - E-commerce Evolution and SEO
  • (12:31) - The Rise of SaaS
  • (19:07) - AI in Go-to-Market Strategies
  • (29:39) - Encouraging AI Experimentation
  • (31:42) - Conclusion and Call to Action


This episode is brought to you by by Everstage - the highest rated Sales Commissions Platform on G2, Gartner Peer Insights, Trustradius with over 2,000+ customer reviews. Some of their customers include leading brands like Diligent, Wiley, Trimble, Postman, Chargebee etc.,

You can go to https://www.everstage.com/revenue-formula to check out Everstage and mention Revenue Formula to unlock a personalized Sales Compensation Strategy Session with Everstage’s RevOps experts—crafted for enterprise teams to maximize performance.

Never miss a new episode, join our newsletter on revenueformula.substack.com

21 Mar 2024+$100M & how Outreach got there00:42:05

A pivot. One motion - and relentless focus. That's just some of the ingredients Manny Medina shared on how Outreach grew to $100M and beyond.

In the episode we get into:

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (02:13) - Meet Manny
  • (03:45) - Outreach's first motion: Outbound
  • (09:30) - Outbound isn't dead
  • (12:22) - AI changing the outbound game
  • (16:14) - Scaling at 0, $10M and $100M
  • (19:59) - You don't scale to enterprise. You turn into an enterprise machine
  • (22:12) - Narrowing your ICP
  • (23:25) - Kicking in the inbound engine at $50M
  • (26:44) - A competitive category
  • (29:51) - Lessons from Outreach's internationalization strategy
  • (32:20) - Deciding to go multi-product
  • (39:11) - Final advice to get to $100M

*** 

This episode is brought to you by Growblocks. Finding and fixing problems in your GTM shouldn't take weeks. It should happen instantly.


That's why Growblocks built the first RevOps platform that shows you your entire funnel, split by motions, segments and more - so you can find problems, the root-cause and identify solutions fast, all in the same platform.


***

Connect with us


🔔 LinkedIn: Toni / Mikkel

✉️ Newsletter: revenueletter.substack.com 

📺 Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@growblocks
💬 Contact: podcast@growblocks.com

10 Sep 2024Is it time to merge inbound and outbound?00:30:28

When folks run outbound, they eventually also run inbound. But should those motions really be separate? What would happen if they were merged? And what problems would it resolve?

This and more we discuss in todays episode

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (00:42) - Hunting Challenges and Reflections
  • (02:43) - Transition to Business Discussion
  • (02:59) - Outbound vs Inbound Marketing Debate
  • (03:42) - Month-End Process and Opportunity Review
  • (04:47) - Challenges in Marketing and Sales Collaboration
  • (06:12) - Revenue Attribution and Commission Issues
  • (10:16) - Strategies for Demand Generation
  • (10:56) - Combining Inbound and Outbound Efforts
  • (19:41) - Lead Scoring and SDR Integration
  • (26:22) - Final Thoughts and Conclusion

***

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✉️ Newsletter: https://www.revletter.io/

📺 Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@growblocks
💬 Contact: podcast@growblocks.com

18 Jul 2023If your target is at risk, listen to this00:30:49

2/3 sales reps aren't completing quota.
Sales cycles are extending.
Win rates are down.

Yeah it's tough - that's why we cover what you can do to get back on track.

What we covered 👇

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (01:35) - The problems in SaaS
  • (05:05) - Only 2 out of 3 reps hit quota
  • (06:44) - We need an impact now
  • (07:28) - First step - do the analysis
  • (09:09) - Time is neglected
  • (12:09) - Where is the volume
  • (13:24) - The limitations of CAC Payback
  • (17:36) - Now what?
  • (20:00) - Help customers overcome indecision
  • (22:01) - An example
  • (25:39) - Another example
  • (28:32) - Find problems

Sources mentioned:
Solving underperformance by Winning by Design
Demand picking up a smidge by SaaStr
Decline in win rates by Jacco Van Der Kooij
28 Nov 2023A "good enough" GTM isn't enough00:37:35

Lots of succesfull companies were built on OK customers, an OK team and with an OK infrastructure. Today, that's not enough.

We cover the latest benchmarks from OpenView, and discuss what it means.

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (01:49) - New benchmarks out - Execution is the problem
  • (05:00) - CAC:PB and ARR per FTE
  • (07:33) - Easy days are gone
  • (14:57) - Churn and burn
  • (22:38) - Teh People
  • (30:32) - Infrastructure
17 Oct 20234 Sales excuses to watch out for00:28:42

Today we walk through the top 4 excuses Toni has heard (and used) when hitting target gets difficult.

While some are BS, a few actually reveal important insight.

Today we get into 👇

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (01:50) - They're just lazy
  • (10:09) - These opportunities are terrible...
  • (16:31) - These inbounds...
  • (20:56) - Just give me this one thing
22 Feb 2024100%+ growth YoY, here’s how Walnut run their GTM (With Catie Ivey, CRO at Walnut)00:42:32

How does a company scale after raising funds? And what changes are necessary to maintain a stellar go-to-market?

That and much more we discussed with Catie Ivey, CRO at Walnut.

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (00:48) - Meet Catie
  • (05:05) - The setup
  • (10:03) - Finding GTM fit
  • (15:38) - Scaling outbound
  • (18:07) - The rituals
  • (27:43) - The culture of problem solving
  • (30:54) - When you don't own marketing
  • (33:04) - A different sales process
  • (37:31) - Spending resources purposefully

*** 

This episode is brought to you by Growblocks. Finding and fixing problems in your GTM shouldn't take weeks. It should happen instantly.


That's why Growblocks built the first RevOps platform that shows you your entire funnel, split by motions, segments and more - so you can find problems, the root-cause and identify solutions fast, all in the same platform.


***

CONNECT
Connect with us


🔔 LinkedIn: Toni / Mikkel

✉️ Email: podcast@growblocks.com

📺 Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@growblocks 

04 Feb 2025Sellers don't sell00:25:50

If sellers aren't selling anymore.. What are they doing? and why are we paying them so much?

Find out in this episode.

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (02:50) - Sales Insights and Changing Dynamics
  • (05:01) - The knowledge gap has reversed
  • (07:57) - Proof of Concept: Ensuring Solutions Work
  • (10:12) - The Role of Sellers in the New AI World
  • (11:40) - The Importance of Customer Feedback
  • (13:19) - Navigating the Buying Process
  • (15:59) - The Value of Sales Skills
  • (23:17) - Addressing Indecision in Sales

This episode is brought to you by Fullcast, the only AI-powered platform that streamlines your entire sales lifecycle — from plan to pay. With modules like territory and quota management, routing, and capacity planning, Fullcast adapts to your unique needs — whether you need one solution or an all-in-one platform.

Ready to see the difference? Visit Fullcast.com and mention the Revenue Formula Podcast to unlock an exclusive premium gift, just for listeners!

Never miss a new episode, join our newsletter on revenueformula.substack.com

03 Oct 2023Buy software like this00:29:16

Software is bad. It makes RevOps look like system admins. But also, software is also good. In fact, it's very much needed.

That's why we decided to cover how to approach buying software. In the episode, we cover:

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (02:51) - Buying software
  • (04:40) - Text book purchase
  • (10:30) - The wrong way to do it
  • (11:10) - Forcing function
  • (20:15) - Making the deal
17 Jan 20230 Friction, 0 Risk00:31:03

Customers want an easy way to buy from you, so why are we making it harder for them? Between no prices on your website, fluffy product descriptions and no buy-now options, a lot of B2B's are putting up roadblocks.

In this episode, we examine the benefits of a 0 Friction 0 Risk purchasing journey, and how you can implement it into your funnel today.

21 Mar 2023Exposed from S-1s: How unicorns create hypergrowth00:33:48

In this episode we expose how unicorns such as Snowflake, Datadog and Asana drive hypergrowth. All revealed by reading their S-1s (IPO filings)

21 Nov 2024How This AE Built a $1M Pipeline Through LinkedIn (With Laura Erdem)00:47:02

We've found a salesperson who's successfully sourcing 30% of her pipeline herself. How? Using LinkedIn.

Laura shares her playbook, giving you practical tips to get going and much more.

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (01:27) - Welcome
  • (02:53) - Challenges of Traditional Outbound Sales
  • (05:07) - The Shift to Social Selling
  • (05:57) - "You're not Gartner"
  • (10:40) - How much pipeline? And how do you calculate it?
  • (16:57) - Building a Social Selling Playbook
  • (20:32) - Getting founder support
  • (23:19) - Who to get on the team
  • (24:42) - How do we get started
  • (26:39) - Figure out the who and the what
  • (28:41) - Forget the POV
  • (31:54) - And now, book a demo!
  • (37:06) - But that deal is mine..
  • (41:25) - Laura's secret tricks
  • (45:54) - Concluding Thoughts and Final Tips

This episode is brought to you by by Everstage - the highest rated Sales Commissions Platform on G2, Gartner Peer Insights, Trustradius with over 2,000+ customer reviews. Some of their customers include leading brands like Diligent, Wiley, Trimble, Postman, Chargebee etc.,

You can go to https://www.everstage.com/revenue-formula to check out Everstage and mention Revenue Formula to unlock a personalized Sales Compensation Strategy Session with Everstage’s RevOps experts—crafted for enterprise teams to maximize performance.

Never miss a new episode, join our newsletter on revenueformula.substack.com

05 Oct 2023Cultivating an efficient GTM engine (with Sam Jacobs, Founder & CEO of Pavilion)00:50:12

How do you cultivate an efficient GTM engine? And what has Sam learned from building Pavilion and the community?

In the episode, we get into:

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (05:48) - Culture and challenges
  • (09:40) - The curated signs of an efficient gtm engine
  • (16:29) - AEs = more revenue?
  • (19:42) - Why sales gets all the love
  • (24:28) - Alignment
  • (30:48) - Free money created bad behaviour
  • (32:32) - Going broad vs specific (TAM)

You can check out GTM23 here and Pavilion here.
03 Sep 2024Customer Success isn't a profit center - here's why00:29:23

Yes, customer success should be a profit center. But for many companies, it's just not.

In this episode, we discuss why that's the case - and why it's not just a quick fix. We do share some tips to make it a profit center though.

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (03:01) - Challenges in Customer Success
  • (05:18) - The Reality of Upselling
  • (08:22) - Cultural Differences in Sales
  • (11:37) - Strategies for Effective Upselling
  • (14:37) - Do you have GTM fit?
  • (24:13) - Real examples

***

Connect with us


🔔 LinkedIn: Toni / Mikkel

✉️ Newsletter: revenueletter.substack.com 

📺 Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@growblocks
💬 Contact: podcast@growblocks.com

26 Mar 2024To grow faster, talk with this team00:31:43

We all want to grow faster, but there's a pretty important team to work with to do that - finance.

We get into how finance looks at the GTM and much much more

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (02:32) - Look at the cash being burned
  • (07:26) - Asset or liability
  • (11:29) - What it means for the GTM team
  • (13:32) - Not running out of money
  • (22:43) - What finance looks at
  • (27:08) - What does it mean for growth?

*** 

This episode is brought to you by Growblocks. Finding and fixing problems in your GTM shouldn't take weeks. It should happen instantly.


That's why Growblocks built the first RevOps platform that shows you your entire funnel, split by motions, segments and more - so you can find problems, the root-cause and identify solutions fast, all in the same platform.


***

Connect with us


🔔 LinkedIn: Toni / Mikkel

✉️ Newsletter: revenueletter.substack.com 

📺 Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@growblocks
💬 Contact: podcast@growblocks.com

12 Dec 2023Sales reps spend just 28% of their time selling.. Or do they?00:27:20

If sales reps only spend 1/3 of their time selling... What are they doing with their time? And how can you fix it?

Also.. Maybe people don't know what selling entails? Irregardless, we dive into:

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (01:56) - Just 30% of time spent on selling?!
  • (06:43) - Find out the status
  • (11:21) - Eleminate
  • (15:38) - Delegate
  • (23:27) - Simplify

Find the salesforce report on sales here.
02 May 2024High velocity sales (with Frank Nardi)00:45:50

Even if you don't run high velocity sales, there's much to learn from vendors who do.

We talked with Frank Nardi (CRO at Cin7) about how they manage short sales cycles and proactively manage their funnel.

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (02:21) - Meet frank
  • (06:02) - Tuning the engine
  • (13:36) - Selling to SMB
  • (21:56) - Short cycles, short term?
  • (26:54) - Longer cycles impact capacity
  • (28:34) - Managing multiple points of failure
  • (32:29) - Efficient growth
  • (38:27) - Build leading indicators
  • (41:31) - Having plays ready

*** 

This episode is brought to you by Growblocks. Finding and fixing problems in your GTM shouldn't take weeks. It should happen instantly.


That's why Growblocks built the first RevOps platform that shows you your entire funnel, split by motions, segments and more - so you can find problems, the root-cause and identify solutions fast, all in the same platform.


***

Connect with us


🔔 LinkedIn: Toni / Mikkel

✉️ Newsletter: revenueletter.substack.com 

📺 Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@growblocks
💬 Contact: podcast@growblocks.com

27 Aug 2024GTM Inflation & the cost of doing nothing00:27:33

Yes, inflation can be boring. No, you can't ignore it even in the GTM teams. We discuss what problems inflation is creating - and what to do about it.

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (01:20) - SaaS and GTM inflation
  • (06:18) - Rising Costs and Business Adjustments
  • (09:57) - Understanding Value Pricing in SaaS
  • (11:00) - Check your T&Cs
  • (13:50) - Using Price Increase Wisely
  • (18:54) - Communicating Price Increases to Customers
  • (25:11) - Case Study: Effective Price Increase Strategies

Mentions

***

Connect with us


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✉️ Newsletter: revenueletter.substack.com 

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25 Jul 2023Forget alignment, just agree on this00:30:37

In this episode, we want you to forget all about the word alignment. Because even if you do achieve it, it won't drive growth on its own. Alignment should be an outcome, not a tactic.

In this episode, we explain why the classic concept of alignment is broken and what 3 things you should have your team focus agree on instead to drive efficiency.

20 Jun 2023Churn is dying, let’s save it00:30:27

You can calculate churn however you want. The problem? Churn as a metric will start to lose meaning.

Toni and Mikkel discuss the different options to make it useful.

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (01:58) - What churn was used for
  • (04:35) - The intention behind churn
  • (07:36) - Churn definitions from public companies
  • (10:46) - The most brutal churn
  • (12:42) - So what do you do with churn?
  • (18:43) - Collateral damage
  • (21:19) - Churn defined, now what?
  • (23:11) - Vintages of customers
  • (25:09) - Creating future churn
  • (26:45) - But.. How to improve it?

Sources
You can check how different companies report churn here (http://christophjanz.blogspot.com/2017/12/how-public-saas-companies-report-churn.html )
Watch Dave Kellogg's presentation on churn here.

Something you want us to cover? Drop us a note on podcast@growblocks.com

14 Feb 2023What you don't know but your competitors do00:28:25

Do your competitors know something you don't? Or are you actually smarter than they are?

In this week's episode, we talk about the proper way to watch your competition, what to consider, and when it doesn't matter at all.

07 Jan 20255 things we hate about SaaS00:27:07

Moats. Copycats.. The list goes on. There's a lot of reasons to hate being in SaaS.

We discuss the most common headaches in todays episode.

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (04:22) - "It's so easy to copy us now"
  • (08:51) - Do you have a.. moat?
  • (16:00) - We need to be efficient
  • (18:55) - More pipeline, fewer deals
  • (21:47) - SaaS Selling to SaaS

This episode is brought to you by by Fullcast, the only AI-powered platform that streamlines your entire sales lifecycle — from plan to pay. With modules like territory and quota management, routing, and capacity planning, Fullcast adapts to your unique needs — whether you need one solution or an all-in-one platform.

Ready to see the difference? Visit Fullcast.com and mention the Revenue Formula Podcast to unlock an exclusive premium gift, just for listeners!

Never miss a new episode, join our newsletter on revenueformula.substack.com

10 Aug 2023Special: What you need to know about brand (With Udi Ledergor)00:46:56

Everyone agrees brand is important, but struggle to articulate why or even how to manage it.

That's why we brought on Udi Ledergor from Gong to share his insights from building the gong brand.

We get into:

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (02:29) - Why brands don't invest in branding
  • (03:37) - What does brand even mean?
  • (06:14) - Why even consider brand?
  • (09:36) - Creating a category
  • (15:48) - Brand at the early stages
  • (18:37) - Investing in big brand bets
  • (30:25) - How to handle budget and brand
  • (35:01) - What are the signals to pay attention to?
  • (37:44) - It's not enough to say "the CEO doesn't get marketing"
11 Apr 2024Avoid this when scaling (with Mark Roberge, co-founder at Stage 2 Capital)00:53:45

There's a few patterns to avoid when scaling sales. We walk through them together with Mark Roberge.

  • (00:00) - Indtroduction
  • (03:48) - Meet Mark
  • (08:44) - The number 1 pattern of unnecessary failure
  • (11:16) - Getting the right pacing
  • (16:35) - Pushing back on the plan
  • (25:39) - Why do we misunderstand capacity?
  • (33:54) - The problem with commissions
  • (36:31) - The comp plan works against this goal
  • (40:12) - How do you comp on retention?
  • (42:38) - Find your leading indicators of retention
  • (44:10) - Pushback on retention compensation

Also, check out the science of scaling here.

Mark also did a presentation at SaaStr on common sales potholes, make sure to check it out.

*** 

This episode is brought to you by Growblocks. Finding and fixing problems in your GTM shouldn't take weeks. It should happen instantly.


That's why Growblocks built the first RevOps platform that shows you your entire funnel, split by motions, segments and more - so you can find problems, the root-cause and identify solutions fast, all in the same platform.


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04 Jun 2024Use this framework to run root cause analysis00:32:52

Here's the method used by Toyota to run root cause analysis. It's called the 5M framework, and helps you look at problems from multiple angles - so you can prevent them from happening again.

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (03:56) - How Toyota would run RCA
  • (04:50) - 5M overview
  • (06:22) - Manpower
  • (10:47) - Machinery
  • (14:03) - Material
  • (18:28) - Method
  • (23:13) - Measurement

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08 Aug 20231 year in 30 min: 6 things you've missed00:29:37

One year has passed, and maybe you've missed an episode or two. In this episode we've picked our 6 favorite takeaways and distilled them in a short 30 min episode. 

This is what we covered:

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (01:56) - Quick review of year 1
  • (05:23) - 1: the 10% rule to double revenue
  • (08:57) - 2: CAC is useless
  • (12:08) - 3: Want sales consistenct? Try this
  • (18:19) - 4: 200 QBRs later, they're broken
  • (23:03) - 5: 1 thing to scale
  • (26:14) - 6: 5 efficiency plays you haven't thought of
08 Oct 2024Are warrants a scam? Here’s what you need to know00:26:36

Between bad leaver clauses, dilution and liquidation preferences, we're willing to bet most folks out there don't understand their warrants. And who can blame them?

In this episode, we break down the complexities of warrants in compensation packages and answer the question: Are they worth it? Or are they just a scam?

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (02:13) - Understanding Warrants: A Potential Scam?
  • (04:22) - Warrants as Compensation: Myths and Realities
  • (12:33) - The Complexities of Dilution and Liquidation Preference
  • (20:14) - Negotiation Strategies and Secondary Markets
  • (24:56) - Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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08 Aug 2024Can RevOps lead sales? Well, this person does (with Ryan Milligan)00:39:00

Thought experiment: What would happen if you put RevOps in charge in sales? Well, we spoke Ryan from QuotaPath who started in RevOps, and now also runs sales.

And there's a few interesting learnings you shouldn't miss

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (01:30) - Meet Ryan
  • (02:02) - Transition from RevOps to Sales Leadership
  • (03:52) - What we think sales is and what it actually is
  • (06:35) - RevOps and Sales Alignment
  • (08:13) - Advice for RevOps Professionals
  • (12:49) - Sales Process and Deal Managemen
  • (22:07) - Quota Design and Sales Team Efficiency
  • (30:47) - Comp plans for CS?
  • (38:13) - Final Thoughts and Conclusion

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12 Dec 2024You need to know these GTM trends (with Chris Walker)00:45:55

2025 is around the corner - and we asked Chris Walker about his predictions for the next years. Will we see more efficiency? Growth? How will AI transform teams? And much much more.

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (03:17) - Has anything changed?
  • (05:03) - Understanding the Core Problems
  • (07:06) - The C suite
  • (12:03) - Wrong KPIs
  • (14:40) - No, we aren't more efficient
  • (19:00) - AI and Market Efficiency
  • (22:03) - Building Customer-Centric Software
  • (24:12) - The Real Cost of Software and Market Growth
  • (24:52) - Predictions for Marketing Teams
  • (27:03) - Challenges in AI Adoption
  • (29:24) - Data's Role in AI and Marketing
  • (30:37) - Future Trends and Predictions
  • (34:40) - The Art and Science of Go-to-Market Strategy
  • (35:56) - RevOps and Go-to-Market Operations
  • (37:48) - Customer Success and Account Management
  • (40:51) - Key Ingredients for Success in 2025

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04 Apr 20234 letters to make better decisions, faster00:32:48

Sales cycles are extending. Win rates are decreasing. How do you make decisions faster? With a simple framework.

08 Feb 2023Special EP: The untold story00:31:14

On this special episode of The Revenue Formula, we go behind the minds of Growblocks and explain why we see revenue generation as a science, not an art.

Toni talks about what turned his perspective around, how long it took to get there, and how we envision modern revenue operators today.

22 Aug 2023The trillion dollar problem: Revenue Leakage00:34:38

Every year roughly $2 trillion goes away unnoticed for companies. It's called revenue leakage.


In this episode, we dive deeper into this massive opportunity:

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (02:38) - Revenue Leakage.. Cool... But what is it?
  • (04:32) - How big of a problem is revenue leakage?
  • (06:55) - Examples of revenue leakage
  • (10:24) - How do you prevent Revenue Leakage?
  • (11:49) - Time leakage
  • (14:50) - Revenue leakage from cost
  • (19:57) - The full revenue engine
  • (22:49) - What now?

Sources
  • 1-5% of EBITDA flows unnoticed - E&Y
  • Sales & marketing efforts could be wasting $2 trillion - BCG
  • 14.9% revenue leakage - Clari/Forrester
16 Nov 2023Driving change through RevOps (with Sandy Robinson, SVP of RevOps at Patra)00:47:39

When there's an endless to-do list and lots of requests, how do you prioritize changes to the business? And how do you get those changes done?


That's what we talked with Sandy Robinson (SVP of RevOps at Patra) about.


  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (04:52) - Meet Sandy
  • (13:35) - What was the purpose of RevOps?
  • (16:49) - Beneath the surface
  • (18:36) - Driving change
  • (21:44) - How do you manage change?
  • (26:16) - How do you know it worked?
  • (31:57) - How do you get to the solution?
  • (36:02) - Going up and down the hierachy
  • (42:05) - Communication is key


Check out her show RevOps unboxed

26 Nov 2024The unfair advantage: Why every founder needs a brand00:34:18

There's an unfair advantage some startups and companies have. It's a competitive advantage that can't be copied. And it's on you should build as early as possible - a founder brand.

In todays episode, we talk about our experience with building a founder brand, what we've learned from others and much much more.

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (01:47) - Building a Founder Brand
  • (07:27) - You need this
  • (08:45) - Blank page problem
  • (11:11) - The Importance of Consistency
  • (15:28) - Distribution and Trust
  • (17:04) - The reason LinkedIn is interesting
  • (19:33) - The other option
  • (25:27) - What will you talk about

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28 Sep 2023Do this to lift sales performance (with Chris Orlob, CEO at pclub.io)00:42:37

What can you really do to lift the performance of your sales team?

That's exactly what we discussed with Chris Orlob, who was part of taking Gong from $200K to $200M in ARR.

In the episode, we get into:

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (02:44) - Why quota attainment is down
  • (06:06) - Why sales takes longer today
  • (08:32) - How do you solve the problem?
  • (10:48) - What does good look like?
  • (12:56) - Discovery: Understanding the need behind the need
  • (17:48) - Mutual action plan
  • (20:00) - Understanding intent
  • (25:37) - Dealing with finance and other stakholders
  • (30:39) - Making the case
  • (34:53) - Quota - raise or decrease?
  • (39:23) - Q5 deals

References:
Matt Green on quota attainment
Jacco van der Kooij on Solving underperformance
And of course pclub.io 
12 Oct 2023How to build RevOps for hypergrowth (with Sean Lane, Founding Partner, Minot Light Consulting)00:42:13

From employee #75 to helping Drift become an over $1B valuation company, Sean Lane knows a thing or two about hypergrowth.

In this episode, we talk to Sean about his RevOps journey and how to create a strategic team in fast-growing companies.

Don't forget to listen to Operations with Sean Lane and check out his new company Minot Light Consulting.

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (00:42) - Meet Sean
  • (01:30) - How Sean got into RevOps
  • (07:09) - Expectations and misconceptions of RevOps
  • (09:41) - What does "Strategic" RevOps actually mean?
  • (15:59) - The fiscal year flip
  • (26:07) - Planning is hard
  • (33:22) - What does a high-growth RevOps team look like?
  • (36:06) - Talking with your peers
  • (41:52) - Wrapping up
08 Feb 2024How to manage multiple GTMs in SaaS (With Dave Boyce)00:43:46

Is it time to add another GTM? Dave told us before recording "not until after $10M ARR". So of course, we discussed that and much more.

We went through the process of establishing different Go-To-Market (GTM) strategies - including the importance of testing and tailoring strategies to match audience behavior, considerations when transitioning from sales-led to product-led growth, and the significance of unit economics in assessing GTM fit.

Dave Boyce, a PLG and SaaS expert, shares his insights and experiences throughout the conversation.

Check out Dave's substack Product led GTM or follow him on LinkedIn.

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (02:58) - Meet Dave Boyce
  • (05:20) - The downside of multiple motions
  • (10:13) - Sequence of events
  • (18:35) - Is it time? And how do we test?
  • (25:12) - From sales led to PLG and vice versa
  • (29:08) - Adding PLG to sales led
  • (31:46) - When to pull the plug
  • (38:29) - If it's broken, here's how to find a new one

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26 Sep 2023The Biggest blindspot of revenue operators00:28:53

There's a big blindspot in commercial teams. And it'll limit your ability to grow - it's your product.

Here's what we got into 👇

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (01:08) - Product market fit
  • (05:19) - The blind spot
  • (07:59) - Why it matters
  • (09:38) - The first question: Do I have product market fit?
  • (15:01) - Talking with authority
  • (16:38) - Product limited
  • (19:04) - When PMF is moving
  • (23:27) - Changing your own perception
  • (25:32) - Look with innocent eyes
27 Mar 2025Last week in software: 11x, Deel, Rippling & spy-bound00:39:10

We had to record this unusual episode. In what feels like a single day, a year's worth of drama has unfolded in software.

It almost seems like John Oliver would talk about it. But since he's busy, we decided to do an episode for him on 11x and the chaos that's emerging.

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (02:03) - Deel, Rippling and the spy
  • (05:35) - 11x
  • (08:13) - TechCrunch acquired
  • (09:33) - Fake Customers Controversy
  • (13:54) - Insane Churn Rates
  • (19:38) - Investor lawsuit? nope
  • (23:11) - Employees. Not happy.
  • (29:23) - Product Performance and Market Fit
  • (34:25) - Future Prospects and Challenges

Sources
Techcrunch on 11x
Hasan's post on X
AI SDR test

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07 Nov 2024Don't create a category, do this instead (with Kyle Coleman)00:45:35

Kyle is back on the show - this time we grill him on category creation, and finding a problem to market instead.

He should know, he saw a category and problem get created at Clari, and is running the playbook again at Copy.ai.

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (02:45) - The TLDR of Kyle's presentation at Exit5
  • (03:27) - Are you differentiated?
  • (06:44) - How are you going to get the sale funded?
  • (09:42) - The stupid & simple questions to ask
  • (15:30) - Practical Implementation and Results
  • (18:55) - Am I the GTM bloat??
  • (23:18) - The Copy AI Pitch
  • (25:03) - Creating a Category Narrative
  • (26:23) - The Lightning Strike
  • (27:42) - Focusing on the Problem vs. Category
  • (30:24) - What changes in the day to day?
  • (32:33) - Lessons Learned at Clari
  • (38:59) - Connecting Positioning to Demand Generation
  • (43:01) - The AI Tailwinds

Sources & mentions

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20 Feb 2024This won't scale00:36:30

There's a lot of things you couldn't scale - until today. In this episode we discuss how AI can remove some of your limiting beliefs and let you scale things that you couldn't before.

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (04:27) - It's all focused on output
  • (08:01) - Quality increase for SDRs
  • (13:37) - Faster ramp
  • (20:04) - AEs: Ramp, training & research
  • (28:59) - What will happen to marketing?

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11 Feb 2025SaaS was dead last week, but now it's back.00:34:42

Wrappers are dead. LLMs are dead. SaaS is dead. The application layer is dead.

It's moving pretty fast still in AI, and we thought it was time to take stock of what we know right now.

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (01:03) - OpenAI's Superbowl Ad Breakdown
  • (02:29) - The Role of AI in Modern Life
  • (03:16) - Teasing Future Content
  • (03:50) - The Fast-Paced World of AI
  • (05:35) - Understanding GPT Wrappers
  • (07:40) - Hype vs. Reality in AI
  • (10:04) - The Evolution of Solutions
  • (14:22) - Consumer Perception of AI
  • (16:25) - AI's Role in Problem Solving
  • (17:47) - The Commoditization of AI
  • (18:50) - Cloud Providers and AI Models
  • (20:39) - The Future of AI Investment
  • (22:31) - Challenges in AI Implementation
  • (28:51) - Skepticism and Realities of AI

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15 Aug 2024The New GTM Playbook (With Sid Kumar)00:46:28

The majority of revenue comes after the initial sales. A 5% lift in retention can lead to a 20-95% increase in revenue. But most companies neglect the customer side - so we need a new playbook.

That's exactly what we talked about with Sid Kumar, VP of GTM Strategy & Planning at Databricks.
 

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (02:23) - Meet Sid
  • (03:05) - The Need for a New Go-to-Market Playbook
  • (03:17) - Defining a Connected Go-to-Market Strategy
  • (04:52) - Challenges in Customer Journey Mapping
  • (06:02) - Practical Steps for Creating a Unified Customer Journey
  • (12:28) - The Importance of Keeping It Simple
  • (16:48) - Adapting Go-to-Market Strategies for Different Segments
  • (17:34) - Diagnosing Revenue Leakage and Efficiency
  • (24:20) - Entering New Markets: Challenges and Missteps
  • (24:57) - Unpacking the New Playbook: Customer First Approach
  • (25:24) - Reframing Marketing and Sales Alignment
  • (27:14) - The Role of Customer Success in Go-To-Market Strategy
  • (30:50) - Breaking Down Organizational Silos
  • (38:42) - The Evolving Role of Revenue Operations
  • (42:30) - Always Planning: Adapting to Market Changes
  • (45:49) - Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Sources
Winning by Design, CS as a profit center
Hubspot & Pavilion RevOps survey

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That's why Growblocks built the first RevOps platform that shows you your entire funnel, split by motions, segments and more - so you can find problems, the root-cause and identify solutions fast, all in the same platform.


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31 Oct 2023PLG is just another motion00:24:44

Product led growth (PLG) has been all the rage. But lately, a lot of things have happened in this space.

Airtable "ditched" PLG and Insight Partners published some interesting stats comparing PLG with non-PLG companies.

So today, we discussed PLG as another motion

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (02:39) - What's happened with PLG?
  • (11:56) - PLG.. just another motion?
  • (17:36) - Blending motions
  • (21:04) - PLG + Outbound
02 Apr 2024Making metrics matter00:34:18

If you want to operate SaaS effectively - you need to know how metrics are constructed, and when to use them.

Sounds obvious, but many many folks struggle with this, so we walk through two simple frameworks.

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (03:08) - Pain with metrics
  • (05:54) - The reality level
  • (10:16) - It takes time to move metrics
  • (14:58) - Metrics tree
  • (18:27) - Higher up, more actions
  • (21:07) - Don't just build what VCs want
  • (24:17) - The metric pyramid

Check out the definitive guide to revenue architecture here.

*** 

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That's why Growblocks built the first RevOps platform that shows you your entire funnel, split by motions, segments and more - so you can find problems, the root-cause and identify solutions fast, all in the same platform.


***

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11 Aug 2022Adding enterprise sales as a new motion00:28:35
Thinking about adding enterprise sales as a new motion? Everyone wants that too, but there are some pitfalls - thankfully we discuss them in this episode. We cover when it makes sense, what you'll need in place and what will change (RFPs ring a bell?)
31 Oct 2024AI in Action: GTM use cases that work (with Andy Mowat)00:37:08

Do you need an AI strategy? Do AI SDRs work? And if they don’t, what does?


This and more we talk about with Andy Mowat

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (05:47) - RevOps vs GTM Ops and retitling
  • (11:10) - AI Usecases in the GTM
  • (12:18) - The main sales usecase
  • (14:15) - AI SDRs: Efficiency vs. Conversion
  • (19:02) - AI that actually works in sales
  • (23:06) - AI and data
  • (26:08) - Generative AI and Data Normalization
  • (30:05) - Future of AI in Business

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28 Mar 2023Tools won't fix outbound, but this will00:34:28

When outbound doesn't work, everyone looks to the tools and the processes. But there's something else that has a higher impact.

02 Jan 2025Why AI is eating software (with Jonathan Moss)00:49:24

Remember Salesforce and Seibel? Well. We're about to see a lot of similar things happen thanks to AI.

In today's episode, we discuss how AI is eating software - who's already being disrupted, and what a moat looks like now.

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (04:47) - AI's Impact on Software
  • (08:34) - Understanding AI Agents
  • (13:50) - AI's Role in Business Processes
  • (18:16) - Challenges in AI Adoption
  • (25:19) - The Rise of AI in Software Development
  • (26:01) - The Importance of Smaller Models and Data
  • (28:12) - The Role of Memory in AI
  • (29:54) - Knowledge Graphs and Their Impact
  • (31:08) - Customer Success and AI
  • (33:12) - Navigating AI for Incumbents
  • (38:27) - The Future of AI-Driven Companies
  • (42:34) - Practical Tips for AI Integration


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05 Sep 2023The 2 things for your revenue plan00:26:11

Don't start planning i February. You can start with a simple approach already now - and you'll just need two things.

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (04:14) - Push for early planning
  • (08:06) - 2 Questions for the CFO
  • (12:55) - How many can you hire?
  • (15:03) - Tapping into FP&A
  • (18:17) - And when there's disagreement?
  • (24:53) - Wrapup
07 Sep 2023What unicorns know (with Pablo Dominguez, Operating Partner at Insight Partners)00:47:34

Can you do less to achieve more? How did Gainsight drastically improve onboarding time? And what do unicorns really know?

That's exactly what we talked with Pablo Dominguez about.

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (04:15) - Continuous improvement
  • (14:36) - Efficiency as a competitive advantage
  • (16:08) - Cutting the salescycle in half
  • (19:51) - Going down market via efficiency
  • (26:21) - Finite resources, finite time and finite dollars
  • (29:15) - Who runs the process?
  • (31:43) - The importance of RevOps
  • (34:43) - Strategic RevOps

Check out the book what unicorns know here
02 Jan 20243 signs sales is broken00:32:05

Having talked with lots of companies, we're still being asked how to make sales work, or at least work better. 

So today, we dive into the top 3 signs that sales is broken - and what you can do to fix it.

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (02:53) - The signs
  • (05:08) - Trust and accountability
  • (11:22) - Commitment
  • (17:08) - Conflict
  • (27:00) - Bonus: Bowtie
18 Jan 2024WTF is nearbound? (With Jill Rowley, GTM Advisor at Stage 2 Capital)00:38:29

What is Nearbound really? How can you use it, and should you?

Those are just some of the questions we asked Jill Rowley who's currently building this new category.

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (01:15) - Meet Jill
  • (03:11) - How she stumbled into marketing automation
  • (05:27) - Social selling
  • (07:53) - Surround strategy
  • (11:29) - Nearbound.. What is it?
  • (16:03) - Not just about acquisition
  • (19:36) - What's changed?
  • (24:46) - The benefits of nearbound
  • (30:15) - Software is removing the friction
04 Jul 2023Drive customer growth00:28:38

The biggest growth lever you have? It's your customers. In this episode we talk about CSMs, incentives and 4 common expansion strategies.

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (02:17) - The CSM rule of thumb
  • (04:39) - It's decided then, this year we focus on our customers
  • (08:31) - The role of the CSM
  • (11:33) - 4+2 ways to drive expansions
  • (12:06) - Usage
  • (12:53) - Tiered
  • (13:31) - Add-on
  • (13:56) - Products
  • (14:14) - The add-on you can do today
  • (20:03) - The 2 bonus tricks
  • (21:27) - Track decisionmakers
  • (22:52) - Incentivizing CSMs
30 Jan 2024Ask this before raising quotas00:30:05

Thinking about raising quotas? Or being forced to? Then there's a couple of questions you need to ask yourself first.

Because if you can't answer them, you'll be in trouble when the sales team asks them.

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (03:07) - Do we raise quotas
  • (08:30) - How do you even dare to raise quotas?
  • (10:52) - How many make quota?
  • (13:56) - What did the winning reps get to hit?
  • (16:10) - Where's the increased performance gonna come from?
  • (23:52) - I get more opps.. How are you gonna do that?
  • (25:42) - The one trick
09 Jul 20243 ways to stop indecision00:30:46

You're not losing to competitors. You're losing to indecision, most often heard like this: "Sorry, it's not the right time. Let's reconnect". 

And it's no surprise, layoffs, budget cuts and more has led to a fear of messing up. We discuss three ways to overcome indecision.

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (04:26) - Sales Challenges and Indecision
  • (05:58) - Economic Impact on SaaS
  • (12:34) - So what can you do? Start small.
  • (16:22) - But won't my ACV take a hit?
  • (17:40) - Try Before You Buy: The Power of POCs
  • (19:54) - The Role of Technical Validation
  • (24:19) - Building Trust with Flexible Contracts

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09 May 2024Here's how Koen Stam use AI for sales coaching00:42:05

Do you think this is an AI summary or not?: With AI tools, such as ChatGPT, sales teams can enhance coaching processes by creating personalized frameworks, generating data-driven insights, and fostering consistency for improved productivity and skill development.

It is... But anyway, that's pretty much what we discussed with Koen - he's been using AI to assist with coaching the team. Don't get us wrong, the AI doesn't do the coaching, it's enabling it.

In the episode, we get into:

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (02:53) - Meet Koen
  • (04:46) - Coaching, does it really matter?
  • (13:43) - Why coaching doesn't happen
  • (15:12) - How AI changes coaching
  • (21:20) - Coaching framework with AI
  • (25:58) - Top down does not work
  • (39:21) - 1 thing to leave with

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06 Aug 2024The plan that kill teams00:31:43

It's planning season again. The most agonizing process for GTM teams needing to plan their targets.

We discuss how b2b SaaS teams should go about it.

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (01:34) - The Annual Plan: A Recipe for Disaster
  • (02:37) - The CFO owns it
  • (07:43) - The most important plan
  • (12:43) - Multi year planning
  • (18:30) - Resource Allocation: Balancing Headcount and Budget
  • (20:04) - Commercial & financial planning in parallel
  • (22:01) - Navigating Initiatives
  • (25:04) - Short-Term vs Long-Term
  • (28:52) - Get some friends in FP&A

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That's why Growblocks built the first RevOps platform that shows you your entire funnel, split by motions, segments and more - so you can find problems, the root-cause and identify solutions fast, all in the same platform.

02 Jul 2024Why BI Sucks00:27:46

BI tools promised to solve the "data starved" teams, giving them access to make decisions. However, we see quite a few challenges that you should know.

That's why we dive into our experience with business intelligence.

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (02:51) - The Challenges of BI Implementation
  • (05:52) - The High Costs of BI Tools and Expertise
  • (09:01) - The Importance of Consensus in BI Rollouts
  • (10:57) - Why even go for BI?
  • (13:17) - Analyzing Marketing Data
  • (17:23) - The Reality of BI Tools
  • (19:51) - Why BI Tools Fail Commercial Teams
  • (25:48) - The Opportunity for Improvement

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04 Jan 20245 types of ROI (With Sangram Vajre, Co-founder & CEO at GTM Partners)00:49:02

There are 5 kinds of ROI software provides - and understanding the difference is critical.

With Sangram, we discuss that and much more

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (01:32) - Say hello to Sangram Vajre
  • (04:48) - Buyers and ROI
  • (07:10) - 5 types of ROI
  • (10:41) - The ROI of slack
  • (17:36) - What ROI do we provide?
  • (21:18) - Changing ROI profile
  • (30:26) - ROI is not just a sales tool
  • (34:20) - Two kinds of people
  • (38:19) - Where do we invest the next dollar

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29 Aug 2024Creating a growth model for SaaS (with Anthony Enrico)00:41:09

The fastest growing companies use growth models. You probably already have one - but is it fully built out? Does it really work?

In this episode, we talk with Anthony who's build quite a few.

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (02:43) - Diving into Growth Modeling
  • (11:39) - Challenges and Pitfalls in Growth Modeling
  • (16:08) - Understanding Pipeline Needs
  • (17:35) - Challenges in Planning and Execution
  • (19:49) - Involving the Right People in Growth Planning
  • (23:49) - Building a Comprehensive Growth Model
  • (27:01) - From Planning to Execution: OKRs and KPIs
  • (28:56) - Real-World Growth Model Case Studies
  • (39:41) - Final Thoughts and Takeaways

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30 Nov 2023How Pleo drives hypergrowth (with Arun Mani, CRO at Pleo)00:44:57

What does it look like inside the engine room of a hypergrowth company?

That's exactly what we discussed with Arun Mani, CRO at Pleo.

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (01:43) - The atypical CRO
  • (04:40) - The pains of hypergrowth
  • (07:53) - Running a matrix Organization
  • (15:14) - Context switching
  • (17:26) - Managing the growth
  • (20:22) - The big problem: GTM execution
  • (32:11) - Believing in the goals
05 Dec 2024The state of venture capital (with Peter Walker)00:37:27

Will the funding market screw you, or accelerate your plans? 

In this episode, we talk with Peter Walker about funding and why it matters to GTM teams.

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (03:04) - What commercial teams need to know
  • (05:44) - What does the market look like right now
  • (07:19) - Are IPOs still backed up?
  • (09:24) - Political landscape
  • (12:29) - Two paths during a downturn
  • (17:17) - Time Between Funding Rounds
  • (20:28) - The AI Hype Cycle
  • (27:31) - Startup Shutdowns
  • (30:54) - Down Rounds and Their Impact
  • (33:14) - Predictions for 2025


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19 Oct 2023Why you need a plan you can beat (with Dave Kellogg, EIR at Balderton Capital)00:47:06

We grilled Dave Kellogg on planning in this episode.

We get into why you shouldn't get any surprises, why you need a plan you can beat - and how to approach building a solid plan for next year.

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (04:15) - What sets great team apart right now
  • (06:03) - Are you up to par?
  • (10:02) - What can we learn from the dot com bust?
  • (15:32) - What's a good number?
  • (18:38) - Why you need to raise on an aggresive plan
  • (22:10) - Planning requires discipline
  • (27:04) - Assumptions
  • (32:41) - Getting ahead of plan
  • (34:12) - RevOps as the partner
  • (39:09) - Allocating resources
  • (44:07) - From plan to execution

You can find Dave's blog here.
18 Mar 2025The Red Bull playbook tech companies should steal00:34:53

Usually, we share advanced analysis to run, cases of amazing tech companies, or something else.

Today, we're talking about an energy drink. Stay with us because this potent drink can teach tech a lot about advertising.

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (02:26) - Energy Boosts and Red Bull
  • (14:29) - Red Bull's Media Empire
  • (17:34) - Examples of Media and Community Acquisitions
  • (19:15) - Red Bull's Endless Content Stream
  • (24:20) - Red Bull's Stratosphere Jump
  • (26:21) - Outrageous Marketing Stunts
  • (29:00) - Local and Grassroots Marketing Efforts
  • (31:57) - Takeaways for Software Companies
  • (32:21) - Creative Marketing Examples in Software

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03 Oct 20247 GTM problems everyone has, and how to fix them (with Eddie Reynolds)00:45:02

What if we told you there are 7 simple mistakes companies make over and over again?

From the misalignment between sales and marketing to the mishandling of inbound leads, Eddie Reynolds joins us to shed light on why these mistakes happen, and how to avoid them.

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (04:16) - Transition to SaaS Companies Discussion
  • (05:10) - The Importance of a True Revenue Leader
  • (06:56) - Challenges in Marketing and Sales Alignment
  • (16:43) - Inbound Lead Routing Issues
  • (23:35) - Inbound vs Outbound Pipeline Expectations
  • (24:06) - Challenges with Quota Attainment
  • (24:15) - The Role of CFOs in Sales Planning
  • (24:36) - Understanding CFOs' Go-to-Market Knowledge
  • (25:13) - Importance of Accurate Sales Forecasting
  • (32:20) - Outbound Sales Strategies and Challenges
  • (37:14) - Aligning Inbound and Outbound Efforts
  • (39:55) - Navigating Dirty Data in Sales

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01 Oct 2024To prevent burnout, this could be the answer00:32:48

Do you recognize this in yourself or someone else: You're working hard. More than what's required. You're rxtremely busy, but at the end of the week, you're just not sure what you actually got done.

Yes, that really hurts. And eventually, you'll burn out. The solution? Getting productive as F...

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (02:29) - Stress, burnout and productivity
  • (08:06) - Keeping an inventory
  • (08:26) - Waiting for list
  • (10:54) - Fixing sleep with a list
  • (12:00) - A not to do list & the endless backlog
  • (14:47) - Weekly updates
  • (17:58) - Context Switching
  • (22:42) - Interruption
  • (25:52) - Take control of your calendar

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11 Aug 2022The 1 thing to scale00:23:50
In this episode we talk about the unicorn path. You’ll need to find your way to the first $1M ARR. Whatever path you take, you need to make sure it’s repeatable. We’ve got a suggestion, consider two things: 1) The playing field - what are your options to reach your audience, and 2) the ceiling - how much scale is there, how repeatable is it? If you search for a direction, we discuss the common issues that’ll hold you back: Bias, measurability and mindset. PS: You’ll need to be patient and persistent.
23 Jan 2024When nobody owns GTM00:34:20

Who really owns GTM, and what are the symptoms when you don't really have someone leading it?

This and much more we discuss in todays episode

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (03:06) - Who owns your GTM?
  • (04:42) - The RevOps hype
  • (08:45) - Conequence 1: Marketing produced more low quality MQLs
  • (13:48) - Account management upsell
  • (15:03) - Who moved the cheese?
  • (19:09) - Who should own the GTM?
  • (25:51) - This is the responsibility
07 May 2024Rethinking comp plans00:28:57

We're using comp plans from the 80s, and there's some problems with that.

We discuss how SaaS has simply changed, and provide some important reflections you can use if you need to rethink your comp plans.

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (02:26) - We still get lots of questions about this
  • (05:24) - Why everyone does comp plans
  • (08:25) - The purpose of what comp plans need to achieve has shifted
  • (14:25) - The person on the ground
  • (18:35) - Comp plans for multi product
  • (20:52) - Comp plans without supply

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23 Apr 20244 Outbound Mistakes00:30:12

Is outbound dead? And if not, what are the biggest mistakes we've seen?

That's exactly what we get into today

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (01:37) - "Outbound is dead? Bullshit."
  • (05:46) - Can you even run outbound?
  • (09:35) - What's changed?
  • (12:28) - Mistake 1: Outsourcing
  • (16:39) - Mistake 2: Not knowing the ideal talent profile
  • (20:43) - Mistake 3: Scaling at the wrong pace
  • (24:36) - Mistake 4: Not getting the balance right

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14 Sep 2023Strategic Revenue Operations (With Mallory Lee, VP Operations at Nylas)00:41:14

What does strategic RevOps look like, and how do you manage revenue production from RevOps? 


That’s exactly what we discussed with Mallory Lee, VP Operations at Nylas.


  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (01:09) - Meet Mallory
  • (02:48) - The difference between RevOps and unified RevOps
  • (07:34) - Being a Strategic RevOps professional
  • (11:32) - Weekly forecast meetings
  • (15:39) - One KPI
  • (21:34) - How do you get time to be strategic?
  • (24:40) - Priorities, problems & solutions
  • (27:44) - Pipeline council
  • (34:31) - How to become proactive
  • (38:09) - You can be the first person
07 Nov 2023Outbound is 3x harder00:31:56

Outbound is 3x harder than it used to be.

We dig into what's happened, and what you can do to make it work.

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (01:30) - Challenges with outbound right now
  • (04:39) - The most prevalent channel
  • (11:08) - What it means now
  • (15:29) - Get the message right
  • (19:06) - Let's cut it
  • (25:46) - Are you still a fit?

Sources
Pipeline from sales development (Ray Rike)
1000-1400 touchers per opp (Jeremy Donovan)
24 Oct 20239 ways to build a moat00:35:22

The most durable companies have built a strong moat around their business.

While many things can be copied, we dive into some of the things that aren't so easy to copy - giving you a competitive advantage.

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (03:45) - 1: Lock-in
  • (06:10) - 2: Complex implementation
  • (08:46) - 3: Integrations
  • (11:52) - 4: Increased usage
  • (17:04) - 5: Ecosystem
  • (20:51) - 6: Enterprise
  • (25:36) - 7: Brand
  • (28:08) - 8: Multiyear
  • (30:46) - 9: Economic moat
31 Jan 2023Run your GTM like a relay race00:31:46

With relay runners, each member's performance is critical if they win or lose. The same goes for your GTM teams.

In this week's episode, we talk about how to establish accountability in your revenue engine and how to get everyone working on the same team. 

07 Mar 2024How Synthesia blew past 50K customers (With Steffen Tjerrild, co-founder & COO/CFO)00:41:19

How do you get to this first million in revenue? And what does the journey past 10 look like? That's what Steffen from Synthesia shared with us.

In the episode, we got into:

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (02:28) - Meet Steffen
  • (03:47) - The backstory
  • (09:58) - The first million (service revenue)
  • (14:27) - The first first million (subscriptions)
  • (19:11) - Getting to $10M
  • (23:21) - Viral loop
  • (30:34) - Enterprise early

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07 Dec 20235 takeaways from 202300:32:41

It's time to wrap the year - and what better way than to revisit some of the great conversations we've had with our guests.

In this episode, you'll hear:

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (04:43) - Sales forecasts suck
  • (06:32) - RevOps aren't system admins
  • (09:13) - Jacco van der Kooij: Recurring revenue
  • (12:58) - Chris Walker: You're gonna cheat
  • (17:42) - Kyle Poyar: Raise the prices
  • (23:34) - Chris Orlob: Quotas
  • (27:11) - Udi Ledergor: Brand.. it's not what you think
21 Feb 2023How $100M companies hit revenue target00:32:55

How do +$100M SaaS companies keep hitting their revenue target? We've talked with a few and share our findings in this episode.

16 Apr 2024Don’t have GTM visibility?00:36:34

Everyone has a dashboard, a sheet, some reports - but still the number 1 problem we hear about? It's visibility into performance.

So we discussed the problem, and what you can do about it.

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (02:16) - Why we get asked about visibility
  • (08:58) - The problem with visibility
  • (14:16) - Breaking down targets
  • (17:48) - Having foresight
  • (21:55) - The first step to build it
  • (27:04) - Test the model
  • (29:44) - No one does QBRs

You can find the CAC:Payback template here.

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11 Mar 2025Killed by AI: What's happening with Chegg00:35:40

With every new technology, there's a Kodak.. or Nokia.. For AI, that company is Chegg - a publicly traded, once highflying edtech company.

We break down the story of Chegg, and distill four learnings for GTM leaders.

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (02:02) - The Role of AI in Our Show
  • (05:34) - The Rise and Fall of Chegg
  • (07:59) - Chegg's Business Model and COVID-19 Impact
  • (13:44) - The ChatGPT Disruption
  • (16:39) - The Resilient Business: Surviving Disruption
  • (17:03) - AI's Impact on Incumbents
  • (18:33) - The Innovator's Dilemma
  • (20:29) - Opportunities for Change
  • (21:38) - AI Disruption in Various Industries
  • (24:05) - Strategies for Business Resilience
  • (26:15) - The Importance of Diversification
  • (27:50) - Facing the Reality of Disruption

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13 Aug 20244 Reasons customers aren't expanding00:33:35

If you're north of $5M ARR, 40% of new revenue should come from existing customers. Are you seeing enough revenue from expansion?

Even if you're getting expansion, maybe you can get more - we talk about a few ways to achieve it.

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (02:34) - Why does expansion matter?
  • (05:45) - Challenges with Expansion
  • (08:19) - Strategies for Effective Expansion
  • (10:28) - Do you get the right customers and do they want more?
  • (19:14) - Add-Ons and Multi-Product Strategies
  • (26:45) - Customer Success and Resource Allocation
  • (28:34) - How many CSMs do you really need?

Mentions & Sources
Openview SaaS benchmarks
Elena Verna

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That's why Growblocks built the first RevOps platform that shows you your entire funnel, split by motions, segments and more - so you can find problems, the root-cause and identify solutions fast, all in the same platform.

24 Aug 2023From marketing plan to revenue plan (with Chris Walker, CEO at Refine Labs)00:49:06

It's time to rethink marketing planning. It needs to factor in revenue and not drown sales in dead-end leads.

Together with Chris Walker, we talked about the problems with planning and how to apply a business mindset to marketing planning.

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (04:07) - Planning in reverse
  • (05:34) - The first step - where do you capture demand?
  • (07:50) - Second step - Creating net new demand
  • (09:44) - Serial planning vs overall view
  • (14:06) - The hidden cost of waste
  • (15:40) - What $42 million in spend teaches us
  • (17:40) - Why we're still inefficient with leads
  • (23:33) - Optimal resource allocation
  • (28:13) - Growth goals drive wrong behaviours
  • (32:36) - What do you do about the delta?
  • (37:14) - RevOps is perfectly positioned

You can find Chris on LinkedIn or checkout Refine Labs here.
28 Jan 20253 Signs your GTM is weak00:33:47

Weaknesses are awesome. If you can identify them that is. We discuss three common GTM weaknesses and how you can identify them...

So you can start fixing them and getting better.

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (03:23) - Parenting Challenges
  • (04:22) - Go-to-Market Strategies
  • (05:35) - 20-20 vision
  • (06:22) - 1: I'm just not motivated
  • (12:37) - You're a bad leader
  • (15:04) - It's products fault (of course)
  • (16:30) - Handling Bugs and Product Frustrations
  • (17:09) - Building a Billion Dollar Business
  • (22:17) - I'm not listening to you (the customer)
  • (26:24) - The Value of Qualitative Data

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20 Aug 2024Challenger brands: Forcing people to pick a side00:31:09

What does a SaaS company, an airline and an oatmilk company have in common? They're challenger brands. And it can be a pretty powerful strategy you can take as a brand.

We run through real examples and much more

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (02:10) - Challenger Brands... what is it?
  • (03:50) - Salesforce vs. Siebel: The Ultimate Challenger Brand
  • (09:55) - Salesforce's Guerrilla Marketing Tactics
  • (13:22) - Reflecting on Bold Marketing Ideas
  • (15:12) - The Power of Brand Exposure
  • (15:39) - Richard Branson's Guerrilla Advertising
  • (17:28) - Virgin's Creative Marketing Tactics
  • (19:00) - The Impact of Controversial Marketing
  • (23:35) - Oatly's Environmental Challenge
  • (26:54) - Drift's No Forms Movement

Sources


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This episode is brought to you by Growblocks. Finding and fixing problems in your GTM shouldn't take weeks. It should happen instantly.


That's why Growblocks built the first RevOps platform that shows you your entire funnel, split by motions, segments and more - so you can find problems, the root-cause and identify solutions fast, all in the same platform.


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11 Aug 2022Our favorite growth hack: QBRs00:26:07
The growth hack no one talks about: Quarterly business reviews. Want to know why building a habit around business reviews will help you grow? Then this is an episode to listen to. We cover why they make you better, and how to run the first successful QBRs.
18 Apr 2024WTF is PLS even? (with Jesus Requena, VP Marketing at Hex)00:50:06

What is PLS? When does it make sense to use it? How do you get started?

These are just a couple of the questions we asked Jesus who's been building PLG and PLS motions at Unity, Figma, Algolia and Hex.

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (00:57) - Meet Jesus
  • (04:35) - PLG at Unity
  • (05:45) - Solving a big problem
  • (12:12) - Is this the right motion?
  • (16:49) - Can you bring users to a pain state?
  • (21:18) - If it was a demo
  • (23:08) - It's about signals
  • (30:31) - Looking towards revenue
  • (33:14) - Qualification is the same
  • (36:39) - Narrowing your focus
  • (39:16) - Activating 10K accounts
  • (42:59) - Indicators of scale
  • (46:26) - Hard lessons

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This episode is brought to you by Growblocks. Finding and fixing problems in your GTM shouldn't take weeks. It should happen instantly.


That's why Growblocks built the first RevOps platform that shows you your entire funnel, split by motions, segments and more - so you can find problems, the root-cause and identify solutions fast, all in the same platform.


***

Connect with us


🔔 LinkedIn: Toni / Mikkel

✉️ Newsletter: revenueletter.substack.com 

📺 Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@growblocks
💬 Contact: podcast@growblocks.com

27 Sep 2022Why you can't get rid of comp plans00:31:04

It's very compelling to get rid of compensation plans theoretically. There's not a system that can be gamed, and research even show that it might not improve performance - but actually decrease it.

That's why we cover why you can't get rid of compensation plans, what challenges you'll face and how to avoid common pitfalls if you're building compensation plans for the first time.

11 Aug 2022Putting revenue back into RevOps00:28:25
Why does RevOps exist, and how do they switch from busy work to business impact? In this episode we cover the evolution of RevOps and why they’re critical for the GTM teams. As a team, RevOps must focus on revenue by creating shared funnel metrics and running quarterly business reviews with the revenue driving teams. At the same time we cover the questions RevOps needs to be able to answer.
25 Apr 2024Why RevOps is broken (with Jeff Ignacio)00:43:38

Is RevOps broken? And how do we fix it?

Together with Jeff, we get into a bunch of the challenging areas of Revenue Operations and some of the steps you can take to improve it.

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (01:40) - Meet Jeff
  • (03:45) - Glorified GTM IT
  • (11:57) - Overinvesting
  • (18:13) - The go to market plan
  • (30:57) - Under- & overinvestment
  • (34:25) - Getting RevOps headcounts

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This episode is brought to you by Growblocks. Finding and fixing problems in your GTM shouldn't take weeks. It should happen instantly.


That's why Growblocks built the first RevOps platform that shows you your entire funnel, split by motions, segments and more - so you can find problems, the root-cause and identify solutions fast, all in the same platform.


***

Connect with us


🔔 LinkedIn: Toni / Mikkel

✉️ Newsletter: revenueletter.substack.com 

📺 Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@growblocks
💬 Contact: podcast@growblocks.com

02 May 2023200 QBRs later: They’re broken00:31:24

We've run more than 200 quarterly business reviews (QBRs), and we've realized something. They're broken.

Fortunately, we have a solution that improves them by a great deal. We're calling it QBRs 2.0 - listen in here.



You can check out the blogpost here: https://growblocks.com/blog/qbrs-are-broken/

If you're interested in GTM live, sign up here to get access: https://growblocks.com/gtm-live/ 

13 Feb 2025No more free trials (Chris Pasquier from Slite)00:39:15

Free trials don't work for AI products - so... what do you do?

That's what we asked Chris, CEO and founder of Slite.

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (03:36) - Challenges in Selling AI
  • (04:53) - Introduction to Slite and Super
  • (06:31) - AI Implementation and Use Cases
  • (08:50) - Customer Onboarding and Trials
  • (10:15) - Why can't we just do freemium
  • (13:10) - Overcoming AI Adoption Barriers
  • (22:15) - Future of AI in Business

This episode is brought to you by Fullcast, the only AI-powered platform that streamlines your entire sales lifecycle — from plan to pay. With modules like territory and quota management, routing, and capacity planning, Fullcast adapts to your unique needs — whether you need one solution or an all-in-one platform.

Ready to see the difference? Visit Fullcast.com and mention the Revenue Formula Podcast to unlock an exclusive premium gift, just for listeners!

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30 Apr 2024When deals die00:31:06

Deals die. But more so today than previously. That's why we introduce a different analysis to understand why deals are dying - so you can fix it.

  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (03:02) - Why deals are harder
  • (04:46) - MEDDICC to diagnose performance
  • (07:34) - Champion
  • (11:12) - What's the pain?
  • (14:35) - From pain to metric
  • (17:29) - Who signs the deal?
  • (20:13) - How did they decide?
  • (25:04) - Turning it into an analysis
  • (27:24) - It's not strictly about the numbers

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This episode is brought to you by Growblocks. Finding and fixing problems in your GTM shouldn't take weeks. It should happen instantly.


That's why Growblocks built the first RevOps platform that shows you your entire funnel, split by motions, segments and more - so you can find problems, the root-cause and identify solutions fast, all in the same platform.


***

Connect with us


🔔 LinkedIn: Toni / Mikkel

✉️ Newsletter: revenueletter.substack.com 

📺 Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@growblocks
💬 Contact: podcast@growblocks.com

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