The Psychedelic Podcast (Third Wave)

We speak to Mike Margolies from Psymposia, an events group and digital magazine focused on psychedelics and drug policy reform. Mike talks about how Psymposia organises a platform for people to talk about their psychedelic experiences, and issues within the psychedelic community. We discuss the privilege still inherent in psychedelic culture when it comes to drug use and criminalisation, and what we can do to become a more diverse community.

For a full summary and show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/psychedelia-mike-margolies-psymposia/

In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes Dr. Stephen Thayer, a clinical psychologist and lead trainer for psychedelic therapists at Numinus.

Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-262-stephen-thayer-phd/?ref=278

Dr. Thayer shares his journey from military psychologist to psychedelic-assisted therapy specialist, discussing his personal experiences with ketamine and psilocybin. He explores the integration of psychedelics into therapy and coaching, highlighting the distinctions between these roles. Dr. Thayer emphasizes the importance of facilitator training and personal psychedelic experiences, making a compelling case for evidence-based psychedelic mental healthcare alongside ceremonial or spiritual contexts.

Note: This conversation was recorded in May 2024, prior to the FDA's decision on Lykos Therapeutics' MDMA-assisted therapy clinical trial for PTSD. The recent FDA ruling, which requested additional studies, will impact some of the information discussed regarding MDMA's path to medical approval. However, we believe this episode remains valuable for its insights into the broader landscape of psychedelic therapy, practitioner training, and the ongoing evolution of the field. Enjoy!

Dr. Steve Thayer, Ph.D. is a clinical psychologist who specializes in psychedelic-assisted therapy practice, training, and research. He began his career in the U.S. Air Force where he led mental health care teams, provided therapeutic and assessment services, and counseled military leadership about community mental health concerns. As an adjunct professor, Dr. Thayer has taught graduate and undergraduate courses in counseling skills, clinical psychology, and personality theory. He has served as the lead therapist on several psychedelic medicine clinical trials and currently consults for Compass Pathways as a mentor to the therapists working on their phase 3 trial of psilocybin for treatment-resistant depression. Dr. Thayer is the Lead Instructor for Numinus's psychedelic-assisted therapy certification program and co-hosts Numinus's podcast, Psychedelic Therapy Frontiers. Dr. Thayer has a private therapy and coaching practice where he helps people resolve the unconscious blocks keeping them from creating the happiness, wealth, freedom, and relationships they crave.

Highlights:

• From military psychology to psychedelic therapy
• Personal explorations with ketamine and psilocybin
• Psychedelics for mental health and spiritual exploration
• Integrating psychedelics into therapy and coaching
• Motivation for entering the psychedelic industry
• Bringing psychedelic awareness to the unconscious mind
• The potential for harm in the psychedelic underground
• Principles of effective psychedelic facilitation
• Assessing personal readiness as a psychedelic facilitator
• Experiential MDMA training for therapists
• Balancing evidence-based and spiritual approaches

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Ethan Nadelmann is a legend of drug policy reform. From his time as a professor at Princeton to his founding and seventeen years of leadership at the Drug Policy Alliance, Ethan has spearheaded the critique against the War on Drugs. In this episode of the Third Wave podcast, Ethan talks with Paul F. Austin about the role psychedelics played in shaping his personal values and drug policy vision, how our culture’s perspective on drugs has shifted over the last 30 years, and how psychedelics fit into larger drug policy reform.

Our guest is Dr Henry Fisher, policy director at the UK-based drug policy think tank, VolteFace. Henry and the team at VolteFace are hoping to make positive changes to current UK drug policy by getting people outside the drug reform community involved in the debate. Politicians are much more likely to listen to patient groups, economic think tanks or doctors than people in the drug reform community: and this is how VolteFace hope to change the face of drug policy in the UK.

For a full summary and show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/psychedelia-henry-fisher/

In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes Tiffany Hurd, a microdosing coach and business leadership advisor who bridges the worlds of psychedelics and corporate culture.

Find full show notes and links here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-285/?ref=278

Drawing from her 15-year corporate background and extensive experience with psychedelic medicines, Tiffany shares insights on bringing microdosing into professional environments, discusses her personal journey from Division I athlete to corporate executive to psychedelic advocate, and explores how these powerful tools can transform workplace culture and leadership.

Tiffany Hurd is a microdosing coach, speaker, and business leadership advisor who has supported over 250 individuals and their teams through microdosing experiences. Drawing from her 15+ years in the corporate medical industry, where she held executive sales & business development roles at Fortune 500 companies, Tiffany helps organizations optimize their growth through customized microdosing protocols. Her expertise lies in teaching business leaders how to achieve professional and personal fulfillment using microdosing and emotional intelligence leadership skills. Her work focuses on helping companies retain talent, elevate team relationships, and cultivate emotional awareness while creating purpose-driven organizations at the intersection of business, leadership, and psychedelics.

Highlights:

• From challenging upbringing to Division I basketball player 
• Transition from corporate medical sales to psychedelic coaching
• Personal experience weaning off psychiatric medications through microdosing
• Discussion of microdosing protocols and safety considerations
• From productivity machine to conscious business
• Practical considerations for psychedelic workplace programs
• Vision for the future of psychedelics in business
• Integration of AI and psychedelics in business landscape

Episode Links:

• Website
• Tiffany on Instagram
• Tiffany on LinkedIn

Episode Sponsor:

• The Practitioner Certification Program by Third Wave’s Psychedelic Coaching Institute.

Gerard Adams, widely known as the “Millenial Mentor”, joins host Paul Austin to discuss leadership and how plant medicine impacted Gerard's perspective on what matters most in business and in life.  

In 2015, Gerard Adams sold Elite Daily for $50 million. Many things have changed since that defining day, including the beginning of his practice with plant medicine. Integrating the insights learned from 5-MeO-DMT and ayahuasca has helped Gerard to weave together new models of business and conscsiousness, creating inspiring roadmaps for young leaders across the globe.

Leadership coach Dr. Jennie Rivlin explains how the Third Wave Microdosing Experience helped her move from fear to flow, overcome depression, and find healing in community.

Elizabeth Bast, author and entheogenic coach, shares her well-rounded experience with the plant medicine iboga. She speaks about its potential for personal healing and psycho-spiritual growth, and also the issues surrounding its cultural history and evolving future. We also discuss the current state of the psychedelic movement, and examine how we can culturally integrate these medicines and use their teachings to guide us as we strive to make them available to as many people as possible.

For show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-60-elizabeth-bast/

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Physical fitness is the focus of this week’s episode! We’re joined by nutritionist and fitness coach Matt Cooper, who explains how microdosing can help optimize both mind and body. He describes how his experiences with psychedelics have helped him become a healthier person, and where microdosing would fit in with a fitness and wellbeing protocol.

For show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/matt-cooper

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Already a highly successful entrepreneur in the cannabis industry, Olivia Alexander went unexpectedly viral for an innocuous social media post mentioning microdosing. The resulting inundation of messages and questions from around the world led Olivia to consistently highlight to her followers the importance of education, safety, and responsibility when working with both psychedelics and cannabis. In this wide-ranging and honest discussion, Paul and Olivia chat about approaching psychedelics as a neurodivergent person, intentional and therapeutic use, Olivia’s career in cannabis from the infancy of the industry, and her use of cannabis to treat her bipolar disorder and get off her medications.

What do the ancient mysteries of psychedelics have to do with the modern technology of cryptocurrency? There are several surprising similarities, including global interconnectedness, the move toward personal freedom and sovereignty, and long-term sustainability. In this episode, Paul Austin talks with Brandon Quittem, entrepreneur and enthusiastic Bitcoiner, about the curious overlaps between psychedelics, the mycelium network, Bitcoin, the healthcare system, original American values, and the empowerment of the entire world.

Thomas Roberts, one of the founding members of the Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies (MAPS), shares his extensive knowledge of psychedelics and his opinions on the future of psychedelic therapy. We discuss the directions that psychedelic research needs to take, and the reason why public benefit corporations will be the way forward for a burgeoning psychedelic industry.

For show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-45-thomas-roberts/

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Dana Larsen, well-known cannabis rights activist, joins host Paul Austin to discuss his new microdosing mushroom dispensary in Vancouver, British Columbia.

Dana has fought unjust cannabis laws for several years, opening one of Canada's first cannabis dispensaries in 2008. Applying the lessons learned from his path as a cannabis activist, Dana is now utilizing his valuable experience to destigmatize psychedelics. His goal is to normalize psilocybin mushrooms for healing and personal growth. 

Podcast highlights:

• Dana's path of civil disobedience and why he chose to open some of the first cannabis dispensaries in Canada
• Why Dana is now using his experience in cannabis activism and applying it to psilocybin
• How Dana makes a living as an activist - and why he wants others to follow a similar path for cannabis and psychedelics

Richard Louis Miller joins us for a discussion on how psychedelics can influence healing. We discuss Richard’s own history with psychedelic substances, and the ways in which he believes psychedelics can help focus our attention and take responsibility for our own wellbeing. Richard shares with us his hopes for the future of the psychedelic movement.

For show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/richard-louis-miller

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Resilience expert Dr. Taryn Marie Stejskal joins Paul F. Austin for a special 2-part interview exploring resilience, leadership, & psychedelics. Dr. Taryn Marie is the #1 international expert on resilience, in both leadership and life, whose mission is to positively impact the lives of 1 billion people, through the concepts of resilience, by 2030. She is recognized as a leading global authority on resilience, wellbeing, and mental health, and she is the Founder and Chief Resilience Officer (CRO) of Resilience Leadership Institute (RLI) and believes that resilience is the key to individual and organizational actualization and acceleration across the globe. By leveraging over a decade and a half of original research on resilience, she developed the empirically-based framework, The Five Practices of Particularly Resilient People.

Highlights:

• Dr. Taryn's personal and professional path of resilience, vulnerability,
• The myth of the Vulnerability Bias.
• How psychedelics can help us tap into our resilience.
• The Five Practices of Highly Resilient People
• Why the practice of vulnerability is so challenging yet essential to our growth and wellbeing.
• The gifts of transformation hidden in the ‘reverse bucket list’ moments of life.
• Dr. Taryn’s latest projects to positively impact the world through resilience.

Episode Links:

• Dr. Taryn’s Website, Resilience Leadership Institute
• Book, Daring Greatly by Brené Brown
• Dr. Taryn’s podcast, Flourish or Fold: Stories of Resilience Podcast
• Mindfulness-based stress reduction
• Book, Antifragile by Nassim Nicholas Taleb
• Dr. Taryn’s TEDx Talk: How Resilience Breaks Us Out of Our Vulnerability Cage

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Author Don Lattin joins us to discuss the direction of the psychedelic movement, and how we can avoid repeating the mistakes of the past. We hear about the psychedelic experiences that shaped Don’s interest in the spiritual, and how plant medicines have changed his life for the better.

For a full summary and show links: https://thethirdwave.co/don-lattin

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In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes Dr. Rick Strassman, pioneering psychedelic researcher and author of "DMT: The Spirit Molecule." 

Find full show notes and links here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-284/?ref=278

Dr. Strassman shares insights from his groundbreaking DMT research in the 1990s, discusses recent developments in extended-state DMT studies, and explores the complex relationship between psychedelics, spirituality, and organized religion. Drawing from his new memoir "My Altered States," he offers a unique perspective on the intersection of personal experience, clinical research, and spiritual growth in the psychedelic field.

A native of Los Angeles, Rick Strassman obtained his undergraduate degree in Biological Sciences from Stanford University, medical degree from Albert Einstein College of Medicine of Yeshiva University, general psychiatry training at UC Davis, and a clinical psychopharmacology research fellowship training at UC San Diego. Joining the faculty at the University of New Mexico School of Medicine in 1984, his clinical research on melatonin discovered its first known function in humans.

Between 1990-1995 he performed the first new US clinical research with psychedelic drugs—DMT and psilocybin—in a generation. From 1995-2008 he practiced general psychiatry in community mental health and the private sector. He has authored or co-authored nearly 50 peer-reviewed papers, has served as guest editor and reviewer for numerous scientific journals, and consulted to various government, non-profit, and for-profit entities.
His best-selling book DMT: The Spirit Molecule (2001) has been translated into 13 languages and is the basis of a successful independent documentary that he co-produced. 

In 2008, he co-authored Inner Paths to Outer Space. His interest in Hebrew biblical prophecy and psychedelia resulted in his 2014 book DMT and the Soul of prophecy. His first novel, Joseph Levy Escapes Death, was published in 2019. The Psychedelic Handbook appeared in 2022, and My Altered States, an illustrated collection of personal narratives, will appear in December 2024.

Highlights:

• Origins of DMT research at University of New Mexico and initial melatonin studies 
• The relationship between DMT and the pineal gland, discussing recent scientific findings
• Exploration of DMT's role in modulating our sense of reality 
• Discussion of entity encounters in DMT experiences 
• Extended-state DMT research and therapeutic applications 
• Personal journey with psychedelics and Buddhist practice 
• Challenges between psychedelics and organized religion 

Episode links: 

• Dr. Strassman’s new book, My Altered States
• Dr. Strassman’s website
• DMT: The Spirit Molecule (book) 
• (podcast) Navigating Complexity: Psychedelics, AI, & Extended-State DMT - Alexander Beiner
• (podcast) Beyond the Mainstream: Insights from Psychedelic Chemistry, Culture, & Consciousness - Hamilton Morris

Episode Sponsor:

• The Practitioner Certification Program by Third Wave’s Psychedelic Coaching Institute.

In this podcast, Paul F. Austin, founder of Third Wave and Deanne Adamson, founder of Being True To You Transformational Recovery, have a candid discussion about overcoming addiction, the power of conversion experiences to awaken us to our life’s purpose, and aligning to your heart’s true calling. You’ll also learn about the three stages of psychedelic integration coaching, the importance of shadow work, and the differences between psychedelic coaches, guides, facilitators, sitters, and therapists.

Adam Gazzaley is a neuroscientist, neurologist, inventor, author, photographer, entrepreneur, and investor. Most notably, he’s the founder and executive director of Neuroscape as well as the David Dolby Distinguished Professor of Neurology, Physiology and Psychiatry at the University of California, San Francisco. In this episode of the Third Wave podcast, Adam talks with Paul F. Austin about the new Neuroscape psychedelics division at UCSF, how studying individual biomarkers can give us novel insights into personalized psychedelic experiences, how different psychedelic dosages can work synchronistically with sensory stimuli, and how Neuroscape is using videogames to train attention.

In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes Christi Myers, founder and CEO of Flow Integrative.

Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-270-christi-myers/?ref=278

Christi shares her journey from emergency medicine to pioneering ketamine-assisted therapy protocols. She discusses the science behind ketamine's effects on the brain, her work developing standards for ketamine therapy with Dr. Bronner's, and her vision for expanding access to this transformative treatment.

Christi offers insights on responsible implementation of ketamine therapy and how it can be integrated with other healing modalities.

Christi Myers, the visionary Founder and CEO of Flow Integrative, has charted an inspiring path of transformation. With nearly two decades of experience as a Paramedic, she has made significant contributions to renowned organizations including the Department of Defense, American Medical Response, Air Methods, San Bernardino County Fire and Sheriff Department, and the Department of Justice.

Motivated by her firsthand experience with the mental health challenges that often plague first responders, and her own journey through PTSD, Myers founded Flow Integrative in 2020. The organization’s mission is to destigmatize and expand access to psychedelic therapies, offering tools for growth, symptom relief, and holistic well-being, with a particular focus on frontline workers dealing with complex trauma.

Highlights:

• Christi's background in emergency medicine and as an educator
• How ketamine works in the brain and impacts the default mode network
• Developing ketamine therapy protocols for Dr. Bronner's employees
• Combining ketamine with other healing modalities like PEMF and red light therapy
• Safety considerations and contraindications for ketamine therapy
• Christi's vision for empowering more practitioners to offer ketamine therapy

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Marcus and Amber Capone are the founders of the US-based non-profit organization, VETS. After 13 years and numerous combat deployments as a Navy Seal, Marcus's post-military transition challenges became seemingly insurmountable when all other treatment options failed. As a result, the couple pursued ibogaine therapy as a last-ditch effort and found it incredibly successful. They've now helped more than 400 veterans to date by providing resources, research, and advocacy for veterans seeking psychedelic-assisted therapy with a special emphasis on ibogaine. In this episode of the Third Wave podcast, Marcus and Amber talk with Paul F. Austin about Marcus’s experience in the military, the difficulties he faced in civilian life, the role of psychedelic-assisted therapy in his healing, and how Marcus and Aubrey are helping veterans pursue similar treatment today.

With a decades-long commitment to psychedelic advocacy and research, a firsthand knowledge of the life-changing benefits of plant medicine, and his role as CEO of Psygen Labs, Danny Motyka brings a unique perspective to the future of psychedelics. In this episode, he and Paul discuss the differences between the cannabis and psychedelic industries, the role of plant medicines as preventative treatments, and what psychedelic therapy might look like in the near future.

In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes Hamilton Souther, a master shaman and innovator in plant medicine.

Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-260-hamilton-souther/?ref=278

Hamilton shares his journey from the tech-driven San Jose Bay Area to the Amazon, where he found his calling in shamanic plant medicine. He discusses founding Blue Morpho, the first healing center in the Peruvian Amazon focused on Amazonian natural medicine, and emphasizes the importance of education, lineage, and safety in shamanic practices.

Hamilton explores the differences between psychedelic guides and shamans, and shares his vision of bringing greater education, standardization, and safety to the psychedelic renaissance.

In 2002 at the age of 23, after graduating University in Anthropology, Hamilton Souther opened Blue Morpho, the first healing center in the Peruvian Amazon focusing on Amazonian natural medicine and the sustainable use of Amazonian Visionary Medicines.

Hamilton is a bridge between ancient wisdom and cutting-edge innovation, fully immersed in the modern world. With a foot in Web3 and AI, he is not just keeping pace with the future; he is helping to shape it. He is on a mission to awaken consciousness and technology for the betterment of humanity.

Highlights:

• Upbringing, education, and journey to the Amazon
• The rigorous path of an Ayahuasca apprentice
• Involvement in the shamanic revolution
• Pioneering ayahuasca jungle tours with Blue Morpho
• Integrating shamanic plant medicine into Western society
• Shaman vs. guide: Crucial distinctions in psychedelic work
• Inside Blue Morpho Academy's innovative programs
• Elevating safety and standards in the psychedelic renaissance

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In this podcast, Paul F. Austin, founder of Third Wave and Joe Tafur, M.D., integrative family physician, curandero, speaker, and author of The Fellowship of the River: A Medical Doctor’s Exploration into Traditional Amazonian Plant Medicine, chat about the ways in which science and spirituality are intersecting to help heal humanity—a breakthrough he’s exploring through the Modern Spirit Epigenetic Project, an initiative that has seen him join forces with the Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies (MAPS) and the University of Southern California (USC) to explore the biological basis of psychedelic medicine and investigate how healing from trauma can alter the way our genes are expressed.

When Lynn Marie Morski, M.D., was first introduced to psychedelics at age 35, she had the kind of transformative experience that she knew would greatly help her patients at the VA. But with no legal way to recommend plant medicines, she decided to turn her attention to educating doctors about the benefits of psychedelics. Unsure of where her new venture would take her, Lynn Marie quit her job, started the Plant Medicine podcast, and created the Psychedelic Medicine Association. In this episode, Lynn Marie and Paul discuss bridging the gap between medical practitioners and the advances taking place in the psychedelic research world.

Daragh Crowley, certified rolfer and movement enthusiast, sits down with host Paul F. Austin to discuss why healing the physical body is central to becoming whole and what role rolfing, movement, and psychedelics play in this process.

In this Psychedelic Podcast episode, Paul F. Austin speaks with entrepreneur Brandon Beachum about tapping into human’s innate capacity for infinite abundance.

Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-216-brandon-beachum/

Paul and Brandon ask questions like, What is the role of conscious community in catalyzing spiritual evolution? How do we balance tribal wisdom with modern comforts? Can we utilize psychedelics to accelerate awakening? What does it mean to see beyond reality’s illusion and embody our inner magic?

This conversation investigates essential tools for mastering the Youniverse and trusting in life’s great mystery.

Brandon Beachum:

Brandon Beachum is an entrepreneur, thought leader, author, and host of The Positive Head Podcast. He also hosts the late-night style talk show, Optimystic.

Brandon has been a serial entrepreneur since childhood. In 2011, while living on a friend’s couch, he co-founded what is present-day ResortShare. In 2015, ResortShare was named the 569th fastest-growing private company in America in the annual Inc. 5000 fastest-growing companies list.

Later that same year, Brandon began The Positive Head Podcast, which has amassed over 15M downloads and has consistently rated in the Top Five in the “Spirituality” category on Apple.

Today, Brandon's primary focus is helping people shift their perspectives to innerstand the “ultimate nature of reality'' and create more of what they want to see in their world!

Highlights:

Mystic Manor, The Positive Head Podcast, and Brandon’s creative ventures.

Brandon’s psychedelic journey from a conservative background to open-minded spirituality.

A “retro-futuristic” approach to co-living and human thriving.

How the “villains” in our lives can be our greatest catalysts for growth.

Mastering the YOUniverse and other nuggets from “The Golden Key.”

How psychedelics can dissolve illusions and awaken reality.

Key Links:

Positive Head Podcast: https://positivehead.com/

Positive Head on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/positive_head/

Brandon’s Book, “The Golden Key: Modern Alchemy to Unlock Infinite Abundance” (use code LOVE at checkout): https://goldenkey.gift/

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Host Paul F. Austin sits down with Greg Ferenstein, a data scientist and social ethnographer who has explored the cutting-edge of modern microdosing use by devising a comprehensive system for tracking real-time transformation with psychedelics.

Ingmar Gorman, Ph.D. clinical psychologist and principal investigator in MAPS’ research into MDMA-assisted psychotherapy, is our guest this week. Ingmar shares with us his journey into the world of psychedelic therapy, and what he hopes the research at MAPS can achieve. We also discuss the rise of microdosing, and why Ingmar believes we should be cautious about its benefits.

For show links: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-47-ingmar-gorman/

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In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes Jeff Krasno, entrepreneur, author, and wellness pioneer. 

Find full show notes and links here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-291/?ref=278

Jeff shares his transformative journey from leading Wanderlust to confronting his own health crisis, which led to profound insights about stress, healing, and human potential. He discusses his new book "Good Stress," exploring how embracing evolutionary-aligned challenges can enhance our wellbeing. Jeff offers a unique perspective on rewilding our lives, the intersection of physical and spiritual health, and finding freedom from the fear of death through understanding our deep connection to nature and the cosmos.

Jeff Krasno is the co-founder and CEO of Commune, a masterclass platform for personal and societal well-being and co-creator of Wanderlust, a global series of wellness events. He hosts the Commune podcast, interviewing a wide variety of luminaries from Deepak Chopra and Marianne Williamson to Matthew McConaughey and Gabor Maté.

His latest venture expands Jeff’s personal story and protocols into a book, "Good Stress: The Benefits of Doing Hard Things" (Hay House, March 2025). The book dives deeper into the concepts from the course, distilling insights from over 400 podcast conversations Jeff has conducted, along with his personal experiences applying these ideas to transform his own health. It explores deliberate, self-imposed behaviors that promote social, psychological, and physical well-being, offering both a philosophical exploration of true wellness and practical steps to achieve it.

Highlights:

• Jeff's personal health crisis and transformation from Wanderlust CEO to wellness advocate
• The concept of "good stress" and its role in human evolution and adaptation
• Understanding rewilding as a path to physical and psychological health
• The intersection of physical practices and spiritual development
• How modern comfort may be undermining our natural resilience
• The importance of reconnecting with ancestral movement patterns
• Reframing our relationship with death and mortality
• The unity of physical and metaphysical in human experience

Episode Links:

• Website
• Jeff’s Book, “Good Stress”
• OneCommune

Episode Sponsor:

• The Practitioner Certification Program by Third Wave’s Psychedelic Coaching Institute.

In this special bonus episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes renowned ethnobotanist Dr. Mark Plotkin for an intimate preview of the upcoming Costa Rica Intensive in February 2025.

Find full show notes and links here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-283b/

Dr. Plotkin shares insights from his decades of work with indigenous communities in the Amazon, discusses the delicate balance between commercialization and preservation of sacred plant medicines, and explores the crucial distinctions between traditional shamanic practices and modern therapeutic approaches. As a special guest for the upcoming intensive, he offers valuable perspectives on integrating indigenous wisdom with contemporary psychedelic practices while emphasizing the importance of humility and continuous learning in working with these powerful medicines.

Dr. Mark Plotkin is a renowned ethnobotanist who has studied traditional indigenous plant use with elder shamans of Central and South America for over 30 years. As President of the Amazon Conservation Team, which he co-founded in 1996, Dr. Plotkin works to protect biological and cultural diversity in the Amazon rainforest. Time Magazine named him an environmental "Hero for the Planet," and his TED Talk on protecting uncontacted tribes has garnered over a million views. His work combines rigorous scientific research with deep respect for indigenous wisdom and traditional healing practices.

* Join Dr. Plotkin and Paul F. Austin this February 2025 at the Costa Rica  Psychedelic Intensive, featuring three guided psilocybin experiences and exclusive workshops exploring the intersection of indigenous wisdom and modern healing practices. *

Highlights:

• Dr. Plotkin’s current work and the new Center for Protection of the Guardians of Ancestral Wisdom
• Updates on protecting uncontacted tribes and conservation efforts
• Perspectives on psychedelics' role in environmental connection
• Indigenous approaches to healing and community
• Historical context of mushroom use in Oaxaca  
• Cautionary insights about commercialization of sacred medicines

Episode Links:

• Amazon Conservation Team
• Plants of the Gods Podcast
• Upcoming book by Paul Stamets: "Psilocybin Mushrooms in their Native Habitat"
• Christopher Hobbs' "Medicinal Mushrooms: The Essential Guide"
• Fantastic Fungi documentary
• Third Wave’s Psychedelic Intensive, Feb 8-15, 2025 in Costa Rica

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Paul F. Austin welcomes Sunny Strasburg, LMFT, to discuss utilizing IFS & psychedelic-assisted psychotherapy through the Theradelic Approach.

Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-232-sunny-strasburg-lmft/

Sunny discusses her multidisciplinary background and how she came to develop her unique therapeutic approach. She incorporates various modalities such as Internal Family Systems (IFS), Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR), and the Gottman Method in her work. Sunny emphasizes the importance of personal psychedelic experience for therapists and the need for ethical and well-trained practitioners in the field. She also shares her vision for the future and the challenges of scaling psychedelic therapy while maintaining integrity and respect for the mystery of the psychedelic experience.

Sunny Strasburg discusses the Theradelic Approach, which combines Internal Family Systems therapy and psychedelic-assisted therapy. She explains how working with internal parts can lead to self-compassion and coherence. Sunny also shares her experience facilitating Ketamine Assisted Psychotherapy retreats with IFS founder Dick Schwartz, and how they help leaders in various industries lead with self-energy. The conversation then delves into the importance of ethics in artificial intelligence and the potential impact of psychedelics on the AI space. Sunny reflects on the lessons she has learned from plant medicine and emphasizes the importance of being in service and awe.

Sunny Strasburg, LMFT:

Sunny Strasburg, LMFT plays a multifaceted role in the fields of psychology and psychedelic therapy, encompassing education, consultation, authorship, and licensed psychotherapy.
Her notable literary achievement, "The Theradelic Approach: Psychedelic Therapy: Perspective, Preparation, and Practice," features a foreword by Dr. Richard Schwartz, the creator of the Internal Family Systems model. Through this work, Mrs. Strasburg distills insights drawn from her experiences as an educator, entrepreneur, and psychotherapist.
Sunny's professional journey encompasses proficiency in Internal Family Systems and archetypal psychology, alongside certification in Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR). As a graduate of Pacifica Graduate Institute and the California Institute of Integral Studies, Mrs. Strasburg holds additional certifications in Psychedelic Assisted Therapy and Research, with specialized knowledge and training in Ketamine, MDMA, and Psilocybin Assisted Psychotherapies.

Sunny is the originator and lead educator of The Theradelic Approach, a model of psychedelic-assisted psychotherapy. Her collaboration with Dr. Richard Schwartz and other prominent figures has led to impactful trainings and immersive retreats.
Converging the domains of Ketamine Assisted Psychotherapy (KAP), Internal Family Systems (IFS), and Jungian psychology, Mrs. Strasburg has formulated innovative principles and methodologies that elevate therapeutic practices and the conscientious use of psychedelics within clinical frameworks.

Sunny's expertise finds expression in prominent conferences like The Psychedelic Summit 2023, Psychedelic Science 2023, SXSW 2023, and the 2023 Expanded States of Consciousness Worldwide Summit. Moreover, her contributions extend to engagements with the 2021 EMDRIA Worldwide Virtual Conference, and her involvement spans diverse platforms, including The Theradelic Approach training, Three Cups Psychedelics, Journey Clinical, Inbodied Training, EMDRIA UK, and the Boston Trauma Conference.

Highlights:

Introduction and background

Exploring IFS, EMDR, the Gottman Method, & the Theradelic Approach

Addressing gaps in psychedelic therapy training

The importance of personal psychedelic experience for therapists

Understanding trauma mapping

Dosage and frequency in ketamine-assisted therapy

Working with internal parts using IFS

ketamine-assisted psychotherapy retreats for leaders

Psychedelics, AI, and ethics

Lessons from plant medicine

Being in service and awe

Resources and trainings

Links:

Sunny’s website: https://sunnystrasburgtherapy.com/
  
Sunny’s book, “The Theradelic Approach”: https://thetheradelicapproach.com/

Sunny’s retreats: https://www.sunnystrasburgretreats.com/

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In this solo cast episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin shares deep insights on why group work is essential for practitioners in the psychedelic space.

Find full show notes and links here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-281/?ref=278

Drawing from Richard Rohr's essay on liminality and his own transformative experiences at Synthesis, Paul explores how collective psychedelic experiences create powerful containers for growth and transformation. He emphasizes three core aspects of effective group work—embodiment, nature connectedness, and community—while making a compelling case for why practitioners must "walk the walk" through their own guided group experiences before supporting others.

Highlights:

• Liminality and its relationship to psychedelic experiences
• Personal story of group experience at Synthesis retreat 
• The importance of "walking the walk" as practitioners 
• Three core aspects of retreat work: embodiment, nature connectedness, and community
• The significance of choosing the right community for growth 
• Guidance for practitioners considering group experiences 

Episode Links:

• Third Wave’s Psychedelic Intensive in Costa Rica
• The Psychedelic Coaching Institute’s Practitioner Certification Program

Paul F. Austin is one of the most prominent voices in the world of psychedelics, and is the author of Mastering Microdosing: How to Use Sub-Perceptual Psychedelics to Heal Trauma, Improve Performance, and Transform Your Life.

As the founder of Third Wave and Psychedelic Coaching Institute, he has educated millions on the importance of safe and effective psychedelic experiences. A pioneer at the intersection of microdosing, personal transformation, and professional success, he has been featured in Forbes, Rolling Stone, and the BBC’s Worklife.

Paul helps others use microdosing as a tool for professional development and increased self-awareness by treating the use of psychedelics as a skill refined through mentorship and courageous exploration.

Learning how to master this skill will be crucial in the story of humanity’s present-future evolution.

Ben Malcolm, PharmD, MPH, BCPP envisions a society in which access to psychedelic drugs in a variety of safe and supported settings is available for those seeking psycho-spiritual well-being, personal development, ceremonial sacraments, and treatment of mental illness. To serve this vision, he began a psychopharmacology consulting practice and educational website, spiritpharmacist.com to help people understand the interactions between traditional psychiatric medications and alternative psychedelic medicines. In this episode of the Third Wave podcast, Ben talks with Paul F. Austin about the history of psychotropic medications and how these pharmeceuticals might interact with a variety of psychedelic medicines.

Our guest for this episode is Anthony David Adams, entrepreneur and life coach, who shares his remarkable journey through childhood trauma, mental health issues, and psychedelics. Anthony describes how psychedelics helped him face his traumas more starkly than ever before, allowing him to heal and embark on a new story of self-discovery.

For show links: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-48-anthony-adams/

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In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, host Paul F. Austin welcomes Brandon Evans, founder of 1heart Journeys, to discuss the transformative power of plant medicine and the importance of community in healing.

Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-251-brandon-evans/

Brandon shares his journey from tech entrepreneur to leading retreats. He discusses the importance of experience design at 1heart's retreats.

Paul and Brandon explore managing group dynamics, supporting first-time ayahuasca drinkers, and the unique healing environment of Costa Rica. Brandon also reflects on fatherhood and his vision for 1heart's future, focusing on lasting community and personal transformation.

For our listeners: 1heart is offering a free room upgrade when you submit your application for a retreat by June 30, 2024. See their upcoming retreats at 1heart.com.

Brandon Evans is the Founder and Chief Elevation Officer of 1heart. Before 1heart, his path of building large tech companies in New York led him to financial success but lacked greater meaning, fulfillment, and joy. When his article “Lost on Purpose” unexpectedly went viral, Brandon was called to serve all those with similar stories reaching out for support.
Brandon founded 1heart to create new paths for leaders seeking more fulfilling and purpose-driven lives. By elevating the consciousness of powerful leaders, their contributions create greater positive impact, harmony, and balance in the world.
In its 6th year, 1heart's 8-week Living Beyond Program, which includes a 1-week retreat with ayahuasca in Costa Rica, has served nearly 1,000 leaders. 1heart is known for its deeply integrated and holistic offering and inspiring community. 1heart combines top facilitators across modern and ancient modalities to support physical, emotional, and spiritual well-being via a highly curated, best-in-class program.
Brandon lives in Costa Rica with his wife Jeanette and their recently born daughter Spirit. Individually and together, they lead retreats and create experiences that support others in creating lives fully aligned with their soul's calling.

Highlights:

• Brandon's entrepreneurial journey and the creation of 1heart Journeys
• Expanding 1heart Journeys and adapting to COVID-19
• The impacts of experience design in a psychedelic retreat
• Ensuring harmony and cohesion in group healing containers
• Accommodating first time ayahuasca drinkers, and navigating language and cultural barriers
• How Brandon’s own journey has evolved running 1heart and becoming a father`
• The appeal of Costa Rica for running a retreat and starting a family
• 1heart success stories: leaders, artists, entrepreneurs, and more
• Brandon’s future vision for 1heart Journeys

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Justin Zorn & Leigh Marz join Paul F. Austin to discuss their new book, GOLDEN, and the scientific, mystical, and psychedelic nature of silence.

Justin and Leigh recently released GOLDEN: The Power of Silence in a World of Noise. Published by HarperCollins in the US and Penguin in the UK, it is appearing in 14 languages globally. Together, Leigh and Justin founded Astrea Strategies, a consultancy that bridges deep visioning with impactful communications and action.

Find GOLDEN on Amazon, HarperCollins, or anywhere books are sold. Listen to the Audio Book narrated by Prentice Onayemi.

Highlights:

• How Justin and Leigh’s paths crossed.
• Defining silence and noise.
• How silence promotes flow states, creative problem solving, and self-transcendent experiences.
• Silence and psychedelics.
• The sacredness of shared silence.
• The neurobiological effects of silence and noise.
• Balancing science and mysticism to inform a new paradigm.
• Cultivating introspection for wiser and more effective leadership.

Episode links:

• Justin & Leigh’s website
• Justin & Leigh’s book, Golden: The Power of Silence in a World of Noise
• Episode 140: Adam Gazzaley, M.D., Ph.D.
• Third Wave’s Coaching Certification Program

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After pursuing his dream of performing as a jazz musician, M.J. Jiaras found his way into a doctoral program for psychology at the Illinois School of Professional Psychology in Chicago. Ultimately, Dr. Jiaras entered the executive coaching space, where he has thrived as president and founder of Integrated Coaching Solutions for over twenty years as a consultant to Fortune 50 companies. In this episode of the Third Wave podcast, Dr. Jiaras talks with Paul F. Austin about his introduction to psychedelics and early career as a musician, his evolving methodology as an executive coach, different approaches to leadership, and the future of psychedelics in tandem with the executive coaching space.

Erick Godsey is on the forefront of self-optimization through physical health, reframing our stories, responsible psychedelic use, mastery, and flow. In this episode, he talks with Paul about the psychedelic experience that almost broke his brain, how he defines “mastery”, the lies we’ve been told about psychiatric drugs, and how to truly recover from depression and anxiety.

Cory and Jay Fiset, a married couple with extensive entrepreneurial experience, join Paul F. Austin to share their psychedelic path to marriage reinvention. 

Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-199-cory-jay-fiset/

The Fisets believe intentional psychedelic use fostered a deep connection that reignited their passion and commitment after years of drifting apart. Psilocybin and MDMA journeys allowed them to be witnessed and heard as their true selves in profoundly healing ways. By letting go of blame and taking personal accountability, the Fisets experienced a shift from co-dependency to self-realization. Cory and Jay now help couples discover self-expression and devotion through their “Connection Experience” psychedelic couples retreats.

Cory & Jay Fiset:

Cory and Jay Fiset are a husband-and-wife team who have been in relationship for 37 years. After 25 years of marriage, they reinvented themselves and their relationship through intentional use of psychedelic medicine. Together, they offer intentional, safe, and intimacy-enhancing medicine experiences to committed couples who want to discover, express, and connect with themselves and each other.

Cory and Jay are Certified Psychedelic Guides who focus on supporting couples. Their work draws upon 30+ years of facilitating intense personal development programs, individual coaching, experiential workshops, and couples retreats.

Highlights:

Cory and Jay’s relationship story.
The slow drift apart that called for a couples intervention.
Cory and Jay celebrate their 25th anniversary with MDMA.
How psychedelics impacted Cory and Jay’s entrepreneurial lives.
How the Connection Experience couples retreat was born.
The power of MDMA in couples therapy.
How to connect with Jay & Cory.

Key Links:

The Connection Experience: https://theconnectionexperience.love
Jay & Cory’s Facebook Page: “Love Sex and Psychedelics”: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1304760743238728/
Connection Experience “Fireside Chat” Q&A video: https://theconnectionexperience.love/fireside 

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Martijn Schirp, founder of High Existence and the psychedelic retreats ‘Synthesis’ and ‘Apotheosis,’ joins us to talk about psychedelic ceremony and personal development. Martijn explains why he decided to set up his own style of psychedelic ceremony, and how they differ from more traditional, ritualistic frameworks. He shares with us his hopes for the future of psychedelics and their integration into mainstream society.

For show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-52-martijn-schirp/

Sign up to the Synthesis psychedelic retreat in Amsterdam: https://synthesisretreat.com

Amanda Eilian has been actively investing in early stage consumer companies for the last decade, drawing on her experience as an institutional investor and entrepreneur. Her focus today is on companies that make the daily lives of consumers healthier, happier, and more meaningful. In this episode, Amanda and Paul discuss narrowing the wellness gap and investing in psychedelics for long-term solutions to mental illness.

Philippa Wilkin, transformational leadership coach and breathwork facilitator, sits down with host Paul F. Austin to discuss existential crises, why breathwork helps to integrate repressed emotions, and how consistently live in a state of presence.

After studying with Humphry Osmond when he was 20 years old, Jeremy Narby became intrigued by the intersection of psychedelics, mental health, and philosophy. As a graduate student in anthropology at Stanford, he lived with the Ashaninka people of the Peruvian Amazon, which set him on an early path researching ayahuasca. In this episode of the Third Wave podcast, Jeremy talks with Paul F. Austin about the importance of language, how we can shift our worldviews, and powerful lessons from plant teachers.

This week we delve into philosophy and neo-nihilsim, as we’re joined by Peter Sjöstedt-H. We discuss how the psychedelic experience fits into his philosophical models, and how microdosing could contribute to modern transhumanism. We also learn about a Marvel character that is getting a new movie and TV franchise, and how Peter was involved!

For a full summary and show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/psychedelia-peter-sjostedt/

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Dr. Katherine Coder was on her way to a career on Wall Street when a psychedelic experience changed the course of her life. Now a counselor and coach, her mission is to help her clients reclaim their birthright and unfold their essential nature into the world. In this episode, Kat and Paul discuss the power of community, connecting to spirit, and pharmaceutical vs. shamanic approaches to healing through plant medicine.

Join us at our 3W Node event in New York, with our guest Dr. Will Siu, a psychiatrist who has been trained as a psychedelic therapist by MAPS. He talks about the problems with conventional therapy, and explains how psychedelic-assisted therapy could take up some of the slack.

For show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-63-will-siu/

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In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, host Paul F. Austin welcomes physician Dr. Russell Kennedy, “The Anxiety MD,” to discuss healing the root cause of anxiety, and the role that psychedelics can play.

Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-243-russell-kennedy-md/

Dr. Kennedy shares his personal journey of healing anxiety stemming from his own childhood adversity. He discusses the connection between the mind and body, the impact of psychedelics on anxiety, and transcending the limiting self-beliefs that physiological states of anxiety can produce.

Dr. Kennedy also provides practical practices to connect with the self and overcome anxiety. Offering a neuroscientific overview of anxiety, he emphasizes the importance of changing the alarm sensation in the body to break protective behavioral patterns that may stem from childhood. Additionally, Dr. Kennedy shares his experience with stand-up comedy and its impact on his life. He concludes by discussing his current projects and focus on helping people find relief from anxiety.

Dr. Russell Kennedy, also known as "The Anxiety MD," is a visionary physician in the field of anxiety disorders. With a diverse background in medicine, neuroscience, developmental psychology, yoga, meditation, and stand-up comedy, he has redefined the understanding and treatment of anxiety from both scientific and humanistic perspectives. Much of his work is based on overcoming his own lifelong battle with chronic, crippling worry, creating the award winning and best-selling book Anxiety Rx, The Anxiety Rx Podcast, and more recently, MBRX, a step by step mind-body program designed to permanently heal anxiety. Dr. Kennedy is empowering individuals from all over the world to overcome anxiety and embrace a life of calm and fulfilment.

Highlights:

How psychedelics and studying childhood trauma informed Dr. Kennedy’s perspective on anxiety

A new theory on anxiety

The impact of psychedelics on anxiety

Why so many people struggle with anxiety

Practices to feel more connected and less anxious

How to safely bring more awareness to the root causes of anxiety

Addressing anxiety stemming from preverbal trauma

Developing the courage to feel

A physician’s experience as a stand-up comedian

Dr. Kennedy's current projects and focuses

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In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes Dr. Jenny Martin to explore the transformative power of female pleasure through psychedelics and non-psychedelic altered states.

Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-258-jenny-martin-edd/?ref=278

Dr. Martin shares her connection to Ireland’s mystical traditions and the hidden wisdom of sacred sex in Christianity. She delves into her journey of reclaiming her sexuality, the role of presence, nervous system regulation, and the significance of the cervix in experiencing divine states of bliss.

Dr. Jenny Martin envisions a world where the mystical informs everyday life. She created the Psychedelic Cervix Course and the Psychedelic Sex Course for Couples, teaching access to mystical states while sober. Her teaching emphasizes the importance of set & setting and is grounded in both science and ancient wisdom.

Born in Ireland and educated by nuns, she challenges toxic beliefs around pleasure and spirituality. Her work reconciles sacred sexuality with Christian teachings, exploring the hidden wisdom in the story of Jesus and Mary Magdalene. Jenny’s forthcoming book delves into the transformative potential of ecstatic sexual experiences.

Highlights:

• Recovering Ireland's mystical traditions
• Sacred sexuality in Christianity
• Healing through sacred sex
• Demystifying divine sexual union
• Psychedelic Cervix: entrainment, DMT, & "trance state sex"

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In the latest Psychedelic Podcast episode, Paul F. Austin announces a new co-host who's no stranger to the microphone or transformative practices. Joseph Anew, a seasoned podcaster, former Spartan Race executive, and Director of Third Wave’s Psychedelic Coaching Institute, brings fresh perspectives and invaluable expertise to the show.

The conversation delves into Joseph’s journey from fitness to psychedelics and the unique intersection between the two. Do psychedelics and obstacle-course racing have more in common than meets the eye? How do extreme experiences inform effective psychedelic coaching? Can psychedelics serve as a conduit between mental and physical health?

This episode elucidates how pushing human boundaries—be it a psychedelic journey or Spartan Race—can offer profound insights into resilience and well-being.

Joseph Anew:

Joseph Anew is an “outside the box” thinker, holistic health expert, and personal transformation coach. Across the last twenty years, he has helped thousands transform their physical and emotional health through public speaking, coaching, podcasting, and live events focused on mindset coaching, exercise, sleep, nutrition, breathwork, cold immersion, and most recently psychedelic medicines.

Joseph is the founder of RUNGA, an experiential health and wellness company that hosts transformational live events and online coaching programs. Joseph also spent eight years as an executive at Spartan Race where he was head of the company’s fitness and sport departments.

Highlights:

• Joseph’s evolution from competitive fitness to the Psychedelic Coaching Institute.
• Joseph’s Spartan Race journey.
• The surprising parallels between psychedelics & obstacle-course coaching.
• Why the Psychedelic Institute hosts intensives in the jungle.
• How psychedelics help to re-pattern physiology, emotions, and behavior.
• Joseph’s excitement about The Psychedelic Coaching Institute and the podcast.

Key Links:

• Joseph on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/josephanew_
• Joseph's Website: https://josephanew.com/
• Third Wave’s Psychedelic Coaching Institute: https://psychedeliccoaching.institute/

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Tao Lin, celebrated novelist and poet, describes the perception-altering effects of psychedelics and microdosing, and how they’ve influenced his outlook on life. Tao discusses the importance of listening to ancestral wisdom, and how plant medicines can be used with other complementary practices to improve our lives. We talk about the damages of modern life, and what a rural lifestyle could offer us.

For show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-54-tao-lin/

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In this podcast, Paul F. Austin, founder of Third Wave and Tucker Max, bestselling author and entrepreneur, discuss the role of psychedelics in processing trauma, empowering individual choice, and guiding personal evolution. You’ll hear about the specific ways that psychedelics help you confront and process trauma, the importance of creating productive relationships with therapeutic substances, and the power of the stories we tell ourselves.

Gerry Powell, founder of spiritual retreat center ‘Rythmia’ joins us this week. Gerry tells us about his turbulent early life and how it prompted him to seek out plant medicine. We hear about the significant changes it catalysed in his life, and why it led him to set up his own high-end retreat center. Gerry aims to provide people with the same healing that he experienced, and hopes to create an ethical business model that encourages competition and diversity.

For show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/gerry-powell

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In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, host Paul F. Austin speaks with Shawn Wells, a renowned expert in performance nutrition and supplementation.

Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-249-shawn-wells/

Shawn & Paul explore biohacking, the groundbreaking ingredient paraxanthine, and protocols for preparing and recovering from plant medicine journeys. Shawn shares insights on allostatic capacity, hormetic stress, and the power of psychedelics for self-love and acceptance.

Shawn Wells, MPH, LDN, RD, CISSN, FISSN, is a globally acclaimed nutritional biochemist known as "The World's Greatest Formulator." He has created over 1,000 products and holds over 20 patented novel ingredients, including market-leading innovations such as TeaCrine, Dynamine and Paraxanthine. Shawn has a profound impact on health and wellness through his expertise in biohacking and health optimization. His work spans international platforms, TV appearances, and contributions to major documentaries.

Highlights:

• What is 'Biohacktivism’?
• Shawn's health journey that led to his 'why'
• Explaining Paraxanthine, TeaCrine, & Dynamine
• Flow vs. Frazzle: Understanding caffeine metabolism rates
• Mainstream adoption of Paraxanthine
• Supplement protocols to prep for a psychedelic journey
• Supplementation for during and after a psychedelic experience
• Microdosing, somatic anchors, and ‘echodosing’
• Shawn’s lifesaving epiphany through psychedelics

Links:

• Shawn’s website
• Shawn on Instagram
• Shawn on LinkedIn
• Shawn’s bestselling book, “The ENERGY Formula”
• Shawn's free guide for pre-, during, & post-journey psychopharmacology
• Join Paul in person at the Psychedelic Horizons Event Series

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Paul F. Austin is joined by writer/historian/philosopher Jules Evans to explore the need for ecstatic literacy in the third wave of psychedelics.

Find episode links, summary, and transcript here.

Through sharing research, philosophy, and his own work, Jules invites a thoughtful examination of both sides of psychedelics—the light and the shadow. He points to the need for more awareness and research of challenging psychedelic experiences and offers a roadmap to improved ecstatic literacy in today’s culture.

Jules Evans is the director of the Challenging Psychedelic Experiences Project, the author of three books (Philosophy for Life and Other Dangerous Situations; The Art of Losing Control; Holiday from the Self) and the co-editor of Breaking Open: Finding a Way Through Spiritual Emergency. He is an honorary research fellow at the Centre for the History of the Emotions at Queen Mary, University of London.

Highlights:

• The need for a balance between stoicism and ecstatic experience.
• Inspirations from Aldous Huxley & other literary heroes.
• Integrating psychedelics into an “ecstatically naive” Western culture.
• Jules’s research on challenging psychedelic experiences.
• The dark side of ketamine: risks of dependency and harm in a booming industry.
• How culture can improve its ecstatic literacy.

Key Links:

• The Challenging Psychedelic Experiences Project
• Jules’s Substack, Ecstatic Integration
• Jules’s book, The Art of Losing Control

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In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes Kat Courtney, a plant medicine pioneer with over 15 years of experience as a psychedelic integration coach. Kat shares her journey from struggling with mental health issues to finding healing through ayahuasca. She discusses the complementary relationship between ayahuasca and huachuma (San Pedro), the practice of master plant dietas, and her approach to psychedelic integration. Kat emphasizes the importance of intention, slowing down, and developing a daily spiritual practice for integrating ayahuasca experiences.

Tina “Kat” Courtney is a Plant Medicine pioneer with 2 decades of professional psychedelic experience. She’s the author of Plant Medicine Mystery School Vol 1: The Superhero Healing Powers of Psychotropic Plants, and she’s a traditionally trained Ayahuasquera and Huachumera. Kat’s also been working as a Psychedelic Integration Coach for 15 years, and is the CEO and Co-Founder of Plant Medicine People. Her entire life is devoted to helping humans discover the power of being in relationship with plant spirits.

Highlights:

• Kat's personal transformation through ayahuasca
• Ayahuasca and huachuma: divine feminine and masculine
• Master plant dietas: isolated vs. social approaches
• Intention and reverence in plant medicine work
• Essential practices for ayahuasca integration
• Overview of Kat's themed retreat offerings

Episode Links:

• Plant Medicine People: https://plantmedicinepeople.com
• Kat's personal website: https://afterlife.coach
• Third Wave’s Microdosing Experience: https://thethirdwave.co/sp/microdosing-experience/?ref=250  
• Third Wave's directory: https://thethirdwave.co/directory/?ref=250

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Ethnopharmacologist and psychedelic icon Dennis McKenna treats us to a discussion on psychedelic medicines, plant intelligence, and the failures of organized religion. Dennis explains what lessons can be learned from psychedelic plants, and what we can do to avoid the imminent obliteration of humanity.

For show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-46-dennis-mckenna/

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Paul F. Austin hosts a panel discussion on advocacy for legalizing microdosing, and why it matters in the psychedelic movement.

This episode is a re-broadcast from the Into The Multiverse Podcast and was recorded in July 2022 in Los Angeles, CA, at the launch party of the Microdosing Collective, a non-profit dedicated to advancing and protecting the right to microdose. In a special panel discussion hosted by Paul F. Austin, four passionate leaders in the world of psychedelics discuss topics such as the history of microdosing, sacred rituals, the legal landscape, and how to safely advocate for microdosing. This discussion is a rebroadcast and was originally released on the Into The Multiverse Podcast

About the panelists:

Alli Schaper
Alli Schaper is an entrepreneur, community builder, speaker, mental-wellness advocate, and enthusiast for mushrooms and other psychedelic medicines. She is currently the CEO & Co-Founder of Into The Multiverse, an education-first ecosystem for all things fungi, whose mission is to rebrand functional mushrooms and encourage collaboration in the psychedelics industry. Her team has created the world's first functional mushroom marketplace, The Multiverse, and SuperMush, their in-house consumer lifestyle brand.

Her passion for bringing microdosing psychedelics to the mainstream wellness conversation led her to collaboratively launch The Microdosing Collective. She is also the host of Into The Multiverse Podcast.
Instagram: @allischaper

Marie Mbouni, M.D.
Born in Cameroon, Africa, Marie Mbouni, M.D. felt a calling toward healing and was initiated into iboga at the age of 14. Ultimately she would go on to pursue her education in Canada and the United States, following the Western medical route as an anesthesiologist. After years in this profession, Marie realized it did not fully align with her vision of healing and embraced a new career as a shaman, energy healer, and mentor. Marie has studied and cared for the body for over 20 years. Opening herself to the power of the mind, the beauty of intuition, and the all-encompassing power of love changed her, she stepped into her destiny as a healer and embraced her potential beyond the confines of the mainstream.
Instagram: @mariembounimd

Joshua Kappel
Joshua Kappel is a founding partner of Vicente Sederberg with a practice devoted to helping entrepreneurs and like-minded professionals build human-centric and regenerative companies in the cannabis and psychedelic communities. Joshua also has a passion for helping advocates draft legislation and build sustainable legal vehicles that will  influence these emerging industries going forward.

Recently, Mr. Kappel was a co-author and chair of the campaign committee for Colorado’s Proposition 122, which was the first successful state ballot measure to create access to natural psychedelic healing through both a state-regulated and a decentralized community-healing model. Joshua also helped draft Denver’s psilocybin decriminalization initiative and has assisted in drafting cannabis and psychedelic measures across the country for over 12 years.

Paul F. Austin (Host)
Paul F. Austin is a 21st-century pioneer of the responsible use of psychedelics for healing, leadership, and personal transformation. He has been featured in Rolling Stone, the New York Times, and WebMD for his work amplifying awareness around the benefits of microdosing psychedelics. Paul is the author of the book Mastering Microdosing: How to Use Sub-Perceptual Psychedelics to Heal Trauma, Improve Performance, and Transform Your Life and the founder of two companies in the emerging psychedelic space, Third Wave and Synthesis.
Instagram: @paulaustin3w

Highlights:

• Why microdosing advocacy matters.
• A brief history of microdosing and its potential role in mainstream acceptance of psychedelics.
• Panelists share their “why” in promoting responsible psychedelic use in mainstream society.
• On sacred reciprocity and microdosing with plant medicines.
• The current legal landscape of microdosing and the work ahead towards legalization.
• Harnessing neuroplasticity for wellness and optimization.
• Drawing on lessons from cannabis when it comes to microdosing psychedelics.
• How to share support for microdosing without putting yourself at risk.
• Defining microdosing.

Episode Links:

• Microdosing Collective Website
• Book, The Psychedelic Explorer’s Guide by James Fadiman
• Book, Drug Use for Grown-Ups by Dr. Carl L. Hart

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Professor Russell A. Berman joins the Psychedelic Podcast to explore the captivating life and works of controversial German writer Ernst Jünger.

Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-201-russell-a-berman-phd/

Jünger’s initial career as a German officer shaped his early books examining war and politics. After the war, Jünger continued writing prolifically, exploring genres like science fiction and nature. He remained a contentious figure due to his conservative and military background. However, in his later years, Jünger became interested in drugs and altered states of consciousness. His book “Approaches,” later edited by Professor Berman, serves as an autobiography through the lens of his experiences with mind-expanding substances.

As the episode unfolds, Professor Berman and Paul F. Austin unpack the book “Approaches” and Jünger's psychedelic perspectives.

Russell A. Berman is the Walter A. Haas Professor in the Humanities at Stanford and Senior Fellow at the Hoover Institution, where he co-directs the Working Group on the Middle East and the Islamic World.

He formerly served as Senior Advisor on the Policy Planning Staff of the United States Department of State, focusing on transatlantic relations, and as a member of the Commission on Inalienable Rights. He is also a member of the National Humanities Council.

Berman has been awarded a Mellon Faculty Fellowship at Harvard and an Alexander von Humboldt Fellowship for research in Berlin. He has also been honored with the Federal Service Cross of the Federal Republic of Germany. His books include The Rise of the Modern German Novel: Crisis and Charisma and Enlightenment or Empire: Colonial Discourse in German Culture—both of which won the Outstanding Book Award of the German Studies Association.

He has edited several translations of works by Ernst Jünger and Carl Schmitt.

Highlights:

• Dr. Berman frames Jünger’s life; world wars, political activism, and literary works.
• Professor Berman reflects on the history of drug culture.
• Jünger’s writings on psychedelics, including LSD, psilocybin, mescaline, and more.
• How altered states impacted Jünger’s religious life and philosophy.
• Jünger’s relationship with Albert Hofmann, the man who first synthesized LSD.
• Examining Jünger, Hofmann, Timothy Leary, & Richard Alpert’s (Ram Dass) shared history and psychedelics perspectives.
• Jünger’s nuanced place in German political history.
• Why Dr. Berman is fascinated with Jünger’s life and writings.
• Dr. Berman reads selections from Junger’s book Approaches.

Links:

• Professor Berman's website: https://profiles.stanford.edu/russell-berman
• Jünger’s Book, “Approaches: Drugs and Altered States” (edited by Russell A. Berman): https://amzn.to/3XfccPH
• Jünger’s Book, “The Storm of Steel”: https://amzn.to/44bdzRS
• Jünger’s Book, “The Adventurous Heart”: https://amzn.to/42PuzMi
• Jünger’s Book, “On the Marble Cliffs”: https://amzn.to/3phqXF9
• Jünger’s Book, “Forest Passage”: https://amzn.to/44t2CLF
• Jünger’s Book, “Eumeswil”: https://amzn.to/3CKMcC9
• “The Decadent Society” byRoss Douthat: https://amzn.to/42Vdhxg
• Book, “The Air-Conditioned Nightmare “ by Henry Miller: https://amzn.to/3peswDL
• Eleusinian Mysteries: https://amzn.to/3pd485B
• (Blog) The History of LSD: From Hero to Villain & Back Again: https://thethirdwave.co/the-history-of-lsd/

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Shane Mauss, the psychedelic comedian, explains his transition into the world of mind-opening substances, and how they influenced his career in stand-up. Shane describes how his experiences with DMT and psilocybin mushrooms have shaped his view of the mind and the world, and what psychedelics can do for people who have developed unhealthy modern habits.

For a full summary and show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/shane-mauss

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Dylan Beynon is the Founder and CEO of Mindbloom, an NYC-based mental health and wellbeing startup helping people expand their human potential with clinician-prescribed, guided psychedelic medicine experiences.

In this podcast, Dylan chats with Paul F. Austin about old medicine vs. new medicine, centralization vs. decentralization, and transforming lives to transform the world.

Our founder, Paul Austin, shares some of his thoughts on psychedelics, and the future direction of the psychedelic community. We also hear about current and future projects at The Third Wave that could have a big impact in the psychedelic space.

For a full summary and show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/psychedelia-paul-austin

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For more info on psychedelics, visit our site: https://thethirdwave.co

Listen to a live podcast panel entitled: "Without the Drugs: Modalities for Hacking Consciousness" brought to you by The Third Wave. 

Dr. David Rabin, Daniel Cortez, and Brooke Deputy join Paul Austin for a far-ranging conversation about the utility of non-ordinary states in healing and transformation.

Tero Isokauppila is the founder of Four Sigmatic, a functional foods company that brings healthy upgrades into America’s daily routines through coffee, plant protein, and other superfood products. From growing up foraging natural foods on his family’s farm in Finland to earning a degree and certificate from Cornell, since 2012 Tero has been on a mission to bring Everyday Magic to the world. In this episode of the Third Wave podcast, Tero talks with Paul F. Austin about the origins of Four Sigmatic and their three most powerful mushrooms, his experience with psychedelics including the legendary Amanita muscaria, plus his thoughts on microdosing and future “waves” for the psychedelic industry.

Host Paul F. Austin welcomes JM Ryerson to discuss his journey from entrepreneurship to coaching and the profound impact of plant medicine on his life and leadership.

Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-257-jm-ryerson/?ref=278

JM shares how ayahuasca fueled his spiritual awakening and connection to spirituality, emphasizing discernment in business and the power of a growth mindset. He also highlights the value of openness to new perspectives and the transformative role of psychedelics for leaders. Join us for insights on “upgrading your life,” leadership, and the significance of vulnerability.

JM Ryerson founded and sold 3 businesses and is now helping leadership teams do the same. He is a Leadership & Performance Coach, International Speaker, host of the Let’s Go Win podcast, and Best Selling Author of the books “Let's Go Win”, “Champion's Daily Playbook”, and “Upgrade”. JM has been building companies and leading sales teams for over 20 years. He is the co-founder and CEO of Let's Go Win whose mission is to increase leadership, enhance culture, and help teams achieve peak performance. JM’s great passions are inspiring people to live their best lives and become open to what life has in store for them. His ultimate goal is to give others the tools that will allow them to transcend their self-limiting beliefs. JM was raised in Montana and lives in Boca Raton, Florida with his wife Lisa and their two amazing boys.

Highlights: 

• The deeper meaning of ‘Let's Go Win’
• JM's journey into entrepreneurship
• The importance of discernment in business partnerships
• How JM’s recent ayahuasca journey impacted his life
• Tapping into spirituality, lineage, and new perspectives
• Transition into coaching
• Going beyond prescribed processes in coaching
• The value of aligning with coaching clients
• Sharing life lessons through writing books
• Final thoughts on psychedelics and leadership

Links:

• Let’s Go Win

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In this episode of the Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes Jaiya, somatic sexologist and creator of the Erotic Blueprint Breakthrough™.

Find episode links, summary, and transcript here.

Jaiya shares the extensive experience and research that led to the creation of the Erotic Blueprint, a framework that helps individuals discover and express their authentic erotic selves. The conversation explores the five Erotic Blueprints–Energetic, Sensual, Kinky, Sexual, and Shapeshifter–highlighting their unique qualities and shadow aspects. The conversation emphasizes that sexual expression, compatibility, and consciousness are learnable skills anyone can cultivate. 

As the episode unfolds, Paul and Jaiya explore ecstatic states while drawing parallels between sexuality and psychedelics as inherent life forces.

Jaiya:

Internationally recognized, award-winning sexologist and best-selling author (Red Hot Touch and Cuffed, Tied & Satisfied), Jaiya is the creator of the Erotic Blueprint Breakthrough™ and the Erotic Blueprint™ Quiz. Through more than two decades of client observation and clinical research, she discovered a map of arousal that reveals your specific erotic language of turn-on. This revolutionary framework helps you create deeper connections and total sexual satisfaction.

Highlights:

• The five Erotic Blueprints and their unique sexual expressions.
• Jaiya’s journey to becoming a somatic sexologist.
• The role psychedelics played in Jaiya’s healing, transformation, and sexuality.
• Psychedelics for healing sexual trauma and facilitating full sexual expression.
• The importance of safe containers and consent when it comes to sex and psychedelics.
• Cultivating ecstatic literacy.
• Finding cosmic union through Tantra.
• The Erotic Blueprint coaching certification program.
• What Jaiya is working on next.

Key Links:

• Jaiya’s website: https://missjaiya.com
• Take the Erotic Blueprint™ Quiz www.eroticbreakthrough.com
• Jaiya in the Netflix series,: https://www.netflix.com/title/81459349
• Psychedelics & Sex: A Powerhouse Combination: https://thethirdwave.co/psychedelics-and-sex/

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In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes Dr. Cassandra Vieten, Director of Research at the Arthur C. Clarke Center for Human Imagination and Clinical Psychology Director at the Psychedelics and Health Research Initiative at UCSD. 

Find full show notes and links here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-286/?ref=278

Dr. Vieten shares insights on the relationship between imagination, psychedelics, and mental health, exploring how these elements intersect to create transformative experiences. She discusses groundbreaking research on psilocybin for phantom limb pain, the importance of both scientific rigor and therapeutic wisdom in psychedelic research, and how imagination can be cultivated as a vital skill for personal and societal transformation.

Cassandra Vieten is Clinical Professor and Director of the Center for Mindfulness at the Centers for Integrative Health in the Department of Family Medicine at UC San Diego. She is also Director of Research at the Arthur C. Clarke Center for Human Imagination and Clinical Psychology Director at the Psychedelics and Health Research Initiative at UCSD. She is Senior Advisor of the John W. Brick Mental Health Foundation where she served as Executive Director from 2019-2023, and a Senior Fellow at the Institute of Noetic Sciences, where she served as President from 2013-2019. Her research has focused on spirituality and health, transformative experiences and practices, the development of mindfulness-based interventions for emotional well-being, and development of media technologies to inspire awe. She received her Ph.D. in clinical psychology at the California Institute of Integral Studies, and completed her research training in behavioral genetics at UC San Francisco. She has authored three books, published numerous articles in scientific journals, and is an internationally recognized keynote speaker and workshop leader.

Highlights:

• The mental health renaissance
• Exercise and mental wellness
• Origins of the Clarke Center
• Understanding noetic sciences
• Imagination and development
• Psilocybin for phantom limb pain
• Psychedelics vs opioids for pain
• Psychedelics with or without therapy
• Group vs individual treatment
• Imagination as transformation

Episode Links:

• Dr. Vieten’s Website
• UC San Diego Center for Psychedelic Research
• Arthur C Clark Center for Human Imagination
• Dr. Vieten’s TEDx Talk at TEDxSanDiego
• Institute of Noetic Sciences

Episode Sponsor:

• The Practitioner Certification Program by Third Wave’s Psychedelic Coaching Institute.

Joel Monk is a leadership coach, educator, facilitator, and entrepreneur. As a coach, Joel is dedicated to the development of conscious, creative, and entrepreneurial leaders. He co-founded Coaches Rising, a company at the cutting edge of online coach training with a community of nearly 50,000 coaches and participants from every continent on the planet. Coaches Rising has collaborated with some of the leading minds in the field of human development.

For show links, go here

Highlights:

• Coaches Rising and the evolution of coaching.
• Translating “emergence” from theory to practice.
• Joel’s journey into coaching, psychedelics, and other transformative modalities.
• The difference between coaching and therapy.
• Why coaches should have a referral network.
• Necessary skills to develop conscious, creative, and entrepreneurial leaders.
• Values, principles, and systems of meta modernism.
• Future developments for Coaches Rising.

Show links:

• Joel Monk
• Coaches Rising
• The Summit
• Richard C. Schwartz, Ph.D., the founder of Internal Family Systems
• Ken Wilber, No Boundary
• Steve March and Aletheia Coaching
• Ken Wilber, The Religion of Tomorrow
• Arturo Escobar, Designs for the Pluriverse
• Jeremy Johnson, Seeing Through the World

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This episode is sponsored by Beckley Retreats, a leading holistic wellbeing company that offers transformative self-development programs by leveraging the science-backed power of psychedelics in concert with supportive therapeutic modalities. As a trusted partner of Third Wave, we strongly recommend the upcoming retreats for Beckley in Jamaica, as well as many other locations. Head to go.beckleyretreats.com/thirdwave to book your transformational psilocybin program today.

At the age of 30, with a successful career and a highly active lifestyle, Boomer Anderson was diagnosed with cardiovascular disease. This unpleasant surprise led him on a journey to self-optimization covering everything from sleep to diet to meditation to psychedelics and more, all grounded in data. In this episode, Boomer and Paul discuss their ongoing personal journeys, how to succeed at habit change, and what it means to become superhuman.

In this episode of the Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin reunites with renowned author Steven Kotler to dive deep into the realms of peak performance aging and flow states.

Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-205-steven-kotler/

Kotler's latest book, Gnar Country: Growing Old, Staying Rad takes center stage as they explore the profound impact of continuous learning, experiences in nature, and adventurous pursuits throughout life. With Kotler's expertise in human performance, the conversation uncovers the secrets to maintaining optimal mental states and staying active in later life.

Listeners will embark on a thought-provoking journey into the possibilities of thriving in aging as Steven decodes the neurobiology of flow.

Steven Kotler:

Steven Kotler is a New York Times bestselling author, award-winning journalist, and the Executive Director of the Flow Research Collective. He is one of the world’s leading experts on human performance.

Steven is the author of eleven bestsellers out of fourteen books, including The Art of Impossible, The Future is Faster Than You Think, Stealing Fire (part of the curriculum in the Psychedelic Coaching Institute’s Coaching Certification Program), The Rise of Superman, Bold, and Abundance. His work has been nominated for two Pulitzer Prizes, translated into over 50 languages, and has appeared in over 100 publications, including the New York Times Magazine, Wired, Atlantic Monthly, Wall Street Journal, TIME, and the Harvard Business Review.

Alongside his wife, author Joy Nicholson, he is also the co-founder of The Buddy Sue Hospice Home for Old Dogs, a canine elder care facility, and Rancho de Chihuahua, a dog rescue and sanctuary.

Highlights:

• Steven’s motivation to write his newest book on peak performance aging, Gnar Country.
• Steven’s favorite adult development models related to healthy aging.
• Decoding the neurobiology of flow and establishing a solid scientific foundation.
• Examining flow from ancient Eastern and Western philosophical perspectives.
• Steven’s reflections on bringing flow into corporate environments.
• Why older employees could be the dream workforce of the 21st century.
• Steven’s flow principles of aging successfully & maintaining cognitive function.
• Exploring the surprising benefits of action sports for peak performance aging.
• Skills cultivation, nature experiences, & the importance of “leisure activities” in old age.

Key Links:

• Steven’s website: https://www.stevenkotler.com/
• Get Steven’s latest book, Gnar Country: https://www.gnarcountry.com/
• Steven’s experiment training adults in park skiing: https://www.gnarcountry.com/gnar-country-experiment
• Steven's training program, Zero-to-Dangerous: http://www.getmoreflow.com

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Paul F. Austin welcomes Nichol Bradford, founder of Transformative Tech, for an enlightening discussion on psychedelics, technology, and human potential.

Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-250-nichol-r-bradford/

Nichol shares her journey from the tech industry to pioneering a community dedicated to human flourishing.

Discover how psychedelics integrate with tech and consciousness, the lessons nature teaches us, and the impact of AI on our future.

Nichol R. Bradford stands at the forefront of human potential and AI, accelerating human transformation through technology investments, research, and global thought leadership. Today, Nichol serves as Executive-in-Residence for AI + HI at The Society for Human Resource Management, shaping global thinking on Human-AI collaboration. She is also Co-Founder and Partner of Niremia Collective, an early stage venture fund focused on human potential technologies, and she co-founded TransformativeTech.org, the largest global ecosystem of founders, investors and innovators building tech for human flourishing.

Previously, as a senior interactive entertainment executive, Nichol held strategy, operations, marketing and production roles at major brands including Epic Games, Activision-Blizzard, Vivendi Games and Disney. She led operations for World of Warcraft China and Blizzard properties in China, played a key role on the Vivendi team responsible for the landmark $18B Activision-Blizzard merger deal, and helped produce record-breaking events in the metaverse at Epic Games.

Nichol has an MBA from The Wharton School, is Faculty at Singularity University, a Trustee at CIIS, and has been a Lecturer and Adjunct Professor at Stanford University. Moving forward, Nichol is focused on advancing human potential through ethical and empowering AI -- catalyzing a global ecosystem of innovators to create technology for human thriving.

Highlights
Nichol’s background and the origin of Transformative Tech
The integration of psychedelics into the tech and consciousness spaces
The role of technology in remembering our connection to nature
Exploring the impact of Artificial Intelligence on human potential
The Impact of AGI on work and the redefinition of jobs
The importance of experimentation and learning with AI

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In this Psychedelic Podcast episode, Paul F. Austin welcomes Will Rezin, mystic, philosopher, and coach, to explore the worlds of psychedelics, somatics, and trauma healing.

Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-224-will-rezin/

Dive into Will's profound healing path, shaped by ayahuasca in Peru. Together, Will and Paul go beyond the conventional body-mind separation, drawing on key approaches to healing common to both somatics and psychedelics.

Their conversation envisions a trauma-free future that extends beyond personal healing to embrace relational, societal, and environmental transformations.

Will Rezin:

Will Rezin is a mystic and somatic teacher. He is a leading expert in the field of personal development with a focus on trauma education and somatics. Will has a unique approach that combines somatic practices, early developmental movement theory, esoteric philosophy and trauma theory with traditional coaching methods. He's the co-founder of Trauma and Somatics where he trains practitioners to become trauma-informed, and the co-founder of The Truth Foundation where he and his co-founder, David Gonzalez, are on a mission to End Trauma.

Over the past 18 years, Will has immersed himself in studying human development through the lens of culture, psychology, biology, physiology, mysticism, myth and behavioral change. He is trained in Somatic Experiencing®, Core Energy Leadership Coaching, Early Developmental Trauma, Karmic Astrology, Jungian Archetypal Psychology, Ericksonian Hypnosis, Amazonian Shamanism and much more. Will integrates many therapeutic models into his work with clients and his teaching with students.

Highlights:

Exploring the work of Dr. Peter A. Levine.
Will’s psychedelic healing path and ayahuasca experiences in Peru:
Beyond the body-mind separation: unpacking somatics.
Essence vs. Personality: integrating intuition and wisdom.
Modulation and titration: keys to healing in somatics and psychedelics.
Will’s mission to eradicate trauma in the world.
Envisioning AI’s role in healing trauma.
Beyond personal healing: relational, societal, and environmental transformation.

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Paul F. Austin jumps into the guest seat on the Wellness + Wisdom Podcast with Josh Trent to share life-learned lessons of transformation.

Recently, Third Wave founder/CEO Paul F. Austin joined the Wellness + Wisdom Podcast with Josh Trent. This is a special rebroadcast of that episode. Josh and Paul discuss psychedelics at length, from how to create a safe and effective microdosing protocol, to exploring the psychological, physiological, and spiritual effects of psychedelics. Now in the guest’s chair, Paul shares his personal philosophy on psychedelics and transformation, along with his own life-changing experiences and insights from working with medicines, and his outlook on the industry and where it’s headed.

About Josh Trent and The Wellness + Wisdom Podcast:

Josh Trent is the Founder of Wellness Force Media, host of the Wellness + Wisdom Podcast and the creator of the BREATHE: Breath & Wellness Program.
Josh has spent the past 19+ years as a trainer, researcher, and facilitator discovering the physical and emotional intelligence for humans to thrive in our modern world.

The Wellness Force Media Mission is to help humans heal mental, emotional and physical health through podcasts, programs, and a global community that believes in optimizing our potential to live life well. Josh's life is dedicated to supporting humanity coming together as one.

Find episode links, summary, and transcript here.

Highlights:

• The potential of the third wave of psychedelics.
• Practical ways to ensure safe, effective experiences.
• How to craft a microdosing protocol.
• Transcending the fear of death and addressing “existential malaise” through psychedelics.
• How Paul F. Austin used plant medicine to heal and integrate his own shadow.
• Paul’s view on the current state of the psychedelic industry, and how to live a fulfilling life.

Episode Links:

• Wellness Force Media
• Wellness + Wisdom Podcast
• RUNGA
• Tao Te Ching: A New English Version
• Book, Food of the Gods by Terence McKenna
• Book, Iron John: by Robert Bly
• What If Money Was No Object? – Alan Watts
• Synthesis Institute

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Integration coach and change catalyst, Marcus Antonius Druen, joins Paul F. Austin to discuss the Psychedelic Map for Change.

Over the last 20 years, Marcus Druen optimized his career to play the ‘success game’ as a self-employed executive coach and organizational development consultant who worked for corporations such as Microsoft, Adobe, KPMG, Sanofi Biologics, EON Energy and Lidl, as well as European VCs and start-ups like Future Energy Ventures, Xempus, and Desolenator.

For the next 20 years, he endeavors to play the ‘impact game’. He is a bridge-builder between the existing system and the new one that clearly wants to emerge. Accelerated by the pandemic, Marcus is on an exciting yet daunting journey of stepping into his purpose with love and power.

Marcus is committed to elevating the consciousness of business people to co-create the regenerative renaissance. His current contribution to this movement is the Psychedelic Map For Change, which he uses as the basis for his practice as a psychedelic integration coach.

Find episode links, summary, and transcript here.

Highlights:

• The impactful events in Marcus’s life that led him to coaching and consulting.
• How Marcus bridges his “two strengths in life,” psychedelics and business.
• The Psychedelic Map For Change: ‘Tool, Tribe, & Token’
• Marcus’s current projects, including his breathwork course.

Episode Links:

• Psychedelic Map For Change
• Marcus on LinkedIn
• Marcus on Twitter
• Marcus's 6-Week Transformational Breathwork Course
• Marcus’s Leading Audacious Change Podcast
• Brave Earth, Costa Rica
• Ken Wilber’s Integral theory
• Spiral Dynamics
• Teal Organizations
• Hawkins Scale of Consciousness
• Frédéric Laloux
• Book, Letting Go: The Pathway of Surrender, by Dr. David Hawkins

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This podcast features an intellectually orgasmic conversation between Paul F. Austin, founder of The Third Wave, and Louie Schwartzberg, the award-winning producer, director, and cinematographer responsible for the breakaway film, Fantastic Fungi.

Tune in to hear what they have to say about the creation and grassroots promotion of Fantastic Fungi, the power of a personal mycelial network to bring people together, the role of the back to the land movement, finding wonder and awe, and growing your own tomatoes.

In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, host Paul F. Austin welcomes Chip Conley, founder of the Modern Elder Academy, to discuss reframing aging and building regenerative communities.

Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-245-chip-conley/?ref=250

Chip delves into the importance of aging with gratitude in this conversation and shares his journey of creating a midlife wisdom school. Chip also highlights the value of intergenerational collaboration and its impact during his time at Airbnb. He explores how indigenous wisdom influences the academy's approach and discusses how psychedelics can aid in navigating midlife transitions. Finally, Chip shares his vision for regenerative communities, and shares lessons on the ego and the soul that he gleaned from building a boutique hotel chain.

Chip Conley:

Chip Conley is on a midlife mission. After disrupting the hospitality industry twice, first as the founder of Joie de Vivre Hospitality, the second-largest operator of boutique hotels in the U.S., and then as Airbnb’s Head of Global Hospitality and Strategy, leading a worldwide revolution in travel, Conley co-founded MEA (Modern Elder Academy) in January 2018 in Baja California, Mexico. Inspired by his experience of intergenerational mentoring as a ‘modern elder’ at Airbnb, where his guidance was instrumental to the company’s extraordinary transformation from fast-growing start-up to the world’s most valuable hospitality brand, MEA is the world's first ‘midlife wisdom school’ and has a campus opening on a 2,600-acre regenerative horse ranch in Santa Fe, New Mexico in April 2024. Dedicated to reframing the concept of aging, MEA supports students to navigate midlife with a renewed sense of purpose and possibility. A New York Times bestselling author, Conley's seventh book "Learning to Love Midlife: 12 Reasons Why Life Gets Better with Age" is about rebranding midlife to help people understand the upside of this often-misunderstood life stage, and gave a 2023 TED talk on the "midlife chrysalis."

Highlights:

• The Origin story of the Modern Elder Academy
• Chip’s role at Airbnb and the value of intergenerational collaboration
• The Modern Elder Academy: Reframing Aging, Navigating Transitions, Cultivating Purpose, and Owning
• Wisdom
• How indigenous wisdom informs MEA’s approach
• Generativity & the importance of age diversity
• From 'can-do-it' hero to 'conduit' coach
• Burning Man, regeneration, and how psychedelics can help with midlif
• Building regenerative communities
• Lessons from building a boutique hotel chain

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Although Adam Strauss named his popular show “The Mushroom Cure,” his psychedelic knowledge doesn’t end at psilocybin mushrooms. In this episode, Adam shares with us the good and bad of his psychedelic experiences – from solipsistic nightmares to curative perspective shifts. We hear about Adam’s opinion on microdosing, and how exposing his vulnerabilities on stage is just what some people need.

For show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-57-adam-strauss/

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Our guest is Mike (Zappy) Zapolin, entrepreneur and psychedelic advocate. Zappy is the director of the award-winning documentary “The Reality of Truth,” an exploration of the mystical and spiritual insights that the psychedelic experience can offer. Here we talk to Zappy about his advocacy, the future of psychedelics in the modern world, and how we can reach a ‘critical mass’ of spiritual evolution.

For a full summary and show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/psychedelia-zappy/

In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin is joined by Alexander Beiner for a deep dive into nuanced engagement in the culture wars.

Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-244-alexander-beiner/

Paul and Alexander examine the importance of sense-making and the role of psychedelics in navigating complex environments. Alexander draws from his interviews with thought leaders like John Vervaeke, Ian McGilchrist, and Nora Bateson, shedding light on the Four E's of cognitive science. He explores how psychedelics can enhance discernment and adaptability in the face of a rapidly changing world. Alexander also shares his experiences with extended state DMT and its impact on his understanding of reality.

This conversation delves deeply into the realms of consciousness and reality, offering visionary insights into how psychedelic perspectives can inform and address the intricate challenges facing the world.

Alexander Beiner is an author and journalist. He's the author of 'The Bigger Picture: How psychedelics can help us make sense of the world' and an Executive Director of Breaking Convention, Europe's longest-running conference on psychedelic science and culture.

Highlights:

The story of Rebel Wisdom and unpacking culture wars

John Vervaeke and Iain McGilchrist

Adding ‘emotion’ and ‘exaptation’ to 4E Cognition

DMT entities and the overview effect

Examining the different medicines can occasion unique mystical experiences

Idealism and panpsychism

The importance of cultivating relational ways of being

Envisioning new systems to facilitate responsible psychedelic use

Reestablishing a relationship with the land

Resources and conclusion

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After building and selling a successful software startup, Tim Sae Koo had a psychedelic experience and vision that revealed his true life’s purpose. Today, he devotes himself to 1heart, a home for change makers, creative innovators, and soul seekers who feel called to co-create a collective future as one tribe. In this episode, Tim and Paul reflect on their friendship, and discuss elevating consciousness, building community, and staying out of the matrix.

Rachel Yehuda, Ph.D., is an Endowed Professor of Psychiatry and Neuroscience of Trauma and Director of Mental Health at the James J. Peters Veterans Affairs Medical Center. She is a recognized leader in the field of traumatic stress studies who revolutionized our understanding of the neurobiology and treatment of PTSD. Most recently, Dr. Yehuda established and now directs the Center for Psychedelic Psychotherapy and Trauma Research, and was named one of the most influential women in the psychedelic field. In this episode of the Third Wave podcast, Rachel talks with Paul F. Austin about her research, including a forthcoming study on MDMA-assisted therapy for trauma survivors.

Douglas Rushkoff, best-selling author and one of the world's ten most influential intellectuals, joins host Paul Austin to discuss what it means to be human. 

In a Western world beset by technological distraction and a never-ending thirst for more, what role do psychedelics play in cultivating mystery, awe, and reverence? Further, why is it so important to embrace these elements - mystery, awe, and reverence - as part of our human nature?

In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin interviews Myles Katz, founder and executive director of Confluence Retreats.

Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-246-myles-katz/

They delve into the closure of Synthesis, a psilocybin retreat center in Amsterdam co-founded by Myles. From investment decisions to the pandemic’s impact, they discuss the challenges faced and lessons learned. Myles shares his vision for conscious capitalism, introducing Confluence Retreats, a nonprofit psychedelic retreat in Oregon.

This conversation sheds light on the evolution of psychedelic businesses amidst external forces like financial markets and the COVID-19 pandemic.

Myles's professional journey has spanned three continents. During this time, he has launched and led five VC/Impact-funded startups dedicated to technological innovation, social responsibility, and environmental sustainability. Specializing in early-stage business strategy, Myles has successfully raised nearly $20 million USD for cutting-edge business models.

As a co-founder and the Director of Business Development at The Synthesis Institute, Myles spearheaded the development of one of the world's initial legal psychedelic service models. This groundbreaking initiative supported over 1,000 individuals in their mental health journeys until its closure in 2023. His contributions in Oregon have also included significant roles in the state’s landmark psilocybin legalization efforts, serving with the Oregon Psilocybin Training Alliance (OPTA) and on various Rule Advisory Committees for the Oregon Health Authority.

Currently, Myles is leading the development of Confluence Retreats, a project under the Hi-U Foundation. This initiative seeks to integrate nature-based, multi-day psilocybin retreat experiences into Oregon’s innovative legal framework, collaborating with indigenous communities to restore ancient healing practices to the Cascade Siskiyou National Monument. He also serves on the Advisory Board of Omnia Group Ashland, one of Oregon's premier licensed psilocybin service centers. Furthermore, Myles is a licensed psilocybin facilitator in Oregon, bringing his extensive expertise to ensure safe and transformative experiences for participants.

Highlights:

• The closure of Synthesis: an overview
• Synthesis’ growth period and pivoting during COVID
• Transition to a stewardship model
• Challenges with the company’s training and retreat programs
• The impacts of financial markets
• Introduction to Confluence Retreats

Links:

• Confluence Retreats Website - Full Program Details & More
• Confluence Retreats & Third Wave - Ambassador Program  
• Confluence Retreats on Facebook

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In the three years since Paul and Sean last spoke, there has been huge growth in the psychedelic space, from legal retreats and clinics to corporate interest to personal education and use. In this episode, recorded for Sean’s podcast and shared here as well, Paul and Sean discuss the revolutionary changes psychedelics are bringing to mental and physical healthcare, as well as exciting upheavals in industrial capitalism, religion, and our concept of a sovereign state.

This week we talk psychedelics and drug policy with Natalie Ginsberg, Policy and Advocacy Director for MAPS. Natalie discusses how MAPS is using medical research to lay the groundwork for the decriminalization of all drug use. Could microdosing be a factor in destigmatizing drug use in mainstream society?

For a full summary and show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/natalie-ginsberg

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Janet Chang, digital marketer and entrepreneur, talks to us about her experiences with microdosing. With a background in professional sports and personal development, Janet has applied her own style of testing and tracking to her microdosing experiment. We hear about the benefits and pitfalls she discovered after microdosing psilocybin mushrooms at work for over a year.

For a full summary and show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/janet-chang

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Vanessa Crites, founder of Sobriety of the Soul, joins Paul F. Austin to discuss the intersection of recovery and psychedelics.

Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-235-vanessa-crites/

Vanessa shares her personal journey of recovery and how she became interested in psychedelic medicine. She explores the intersection of recovery and psychedelics, highlighting the spiritual principles of the 12-step program and the history of psychedelics in Alcoholics Anonymous (AA). Vanessa unpacks her educational program, Sobriety of the Soul, which provides resources and support for individuals in recovery interested in working with psychedelics. She discusses the unique challenges faced by people in recovery, and the need to normalize the conversation around psychedelics within that group. She also emphasizes the importance of discernment when it comes to the intentional and responsible application of psychedelics in recovery.

Vanessa closes with resources and recommendations and shares her vision of sobriety of the soul as the next frontier for those in recovery.

Vanessa Crites

Vanessa Crites is a recovery strategist and educator dedicated to the thoughtful integration of psychedelics into sober living. She guides individuals towards profound healing and personal growth through mentorship and her flagship program Sobriety of the Soul. Drawing from a wealth of professional experience and personal recovery since 2005, Vanessa blends the rigor of evidence-based practices with the depth of spiritual wisdom to offer a safe and responsible pathway for those in recovery.

Rooted in 12-Step principles, Vanessa’s approach bridges the gaps between traditional recovery models and the expansive potential of psychedelics, delivering a holistic understanding that encompasses spiritual, emotional, and psychological well-being.
She is devoted to debunking misconceptions while championing harm reduction, prioritizing both personal and public well-being. Through her work, Vanessa illuminates a path beyond the confines of traditional sobriety approaches, guiding those in active recovery towards the empowerment of an awakened, authentic existence—what she calls “Soulful Sobriety.”

Highlights:

Vanessa’s recovery journey and path to psychedelics

The spiritual and psychedelic origins of AA and the 12 Steps of Recovery

How Bill Wilson’s LSD experiences impacted his recovery

Vanessa’s journey incorporating psychedelics into her recovery

Sobriety of the Soul’s origin story and programming

Synthetic vs. plant medicines for recovery

The discernment needed to avoid reliance on psychedelic experiences

Normalizing conversations about psychedelics in addiction recovery communities

Resources for psychedelics and recovery

Links:

Sobriety of the Soul: https://sobrietyofthesoul.com/join-sos961348?am_id=paul179

Vanessa’s free Recovery-Informed Microdose Guide: https://bit.ly/45FgylL

Bill Wilson’s article, “The Next Frontier: Emotional Sobriety”: https://silkworth.net/alcoholics-anonymous/the-next-frontier-emotional-sobriety/

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Paul Austin is joined by Dr. Suresh Muthukumaraswamy, lead researcher in the world's first LSD microdosing clinical trial.

Find episode links, summary, and transcript here.

This is another special interview recorded on location at the 2022 Wonderland Conference in Miami, FL. Dr. Muthukumaraswamy shares the unique design of his LSD microdose trial, plans for future research, and how these studies might be received in New Zealand and around the globe.

Suresh completed his Ph.D. in psychology at the University of Auckland in 2005 after which he joined the newly established Cardiff University Brain Research Imaging Centre as a postdoctoral fellow. In 2014, Suresh received a Rutherford Discovery Fellowship and has returned to Auckland where he works in The School of Pharmacy (Faculty of Medicine and Health Sciences).

Suresh’s main research interests are in understanding how therapies alter brain activity and in developing methodologies to measure these changes in both healthy individuals and patient groups - particularly patients with depression. His previous studies have involved a range of compounds including hallucinogens (ketamine, LSD, psilocybin), anesthetics (propofol, dexmedetomidine), anti-epileptics (vigabatrin, perampanel, tiagabine) and GABA-enhancers (zolpidem, gaboxadol). Suresh’s research has used a wide-range of neuroimaging techniques including magnetoencephalography, electroencephalography, functional magnetic resonance imaging and magnetic resonance spectroscopy.

Highlights:

• Dr. Muthukumaraswamy shares his academic and professional background, and what led him to studying psychedelics.
• Dr. Muthukumaraswamy explains the origin story and unique design of his LSD microdosing study.
• How study volunteers generally respond to microdosing in a lab vs. in their normal daily environments.
• Design elements Dr. Muthukumaraswamy plans to implement in future LSD microdose studies.
• Considering how Dr. Muthukumaraswamy’s take-home LSD microdose study might impact research and policy in other countries.
• The legal landscape of psychedelics relevant to New Zealand’s indigenous Māori community.

Episode Links:

• Protocol for Dr. Muthukumaraswamy’s LSD microdose study
• Suresh’s lab, Auckland Neuro- Psycho- Pharmacology Research Group on Facebook
• Scopolamine, “Devil’s Breath”
• Ep. 172: Paul Stamets & Pamela Kryskow, M.D. - The Future of Microdosing: Legislation, Research, & Science
• Ep. 107: Mendel Kaelen - Music and Psychedelic Medicine: Healing Through Sound

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In this podcast, Paul F. Austin, founder of Third Wave, speaks with husband-and-wife team Tom and Sheri Eckert—seasoned psychotherapists, founders of the Oregon Psilocybin Society, and architects of the Psilocybin Service Initiative of Oregon (Yes on 109), a statewide ballot initiative campaign to legalize psilocybin-assisted therapy. Here you’ll find an inside glimpse into their vision to make psilocybin therapy available not just for people with particular mental health diagnoses, but for the general public as well (with some exceptions).

“If you think that the point of drug policy was to control minority groups, to exploit the resources of other countries; then it’s been an enormous success.”

Academic lawyer Charlotte Walsh shares her experience working in drug policy, and explains why the UK is facing an uphill battle to change the stigma around psychoactive substances. Although police forces in the UK have some capacity to diverge from national policy and work to their own drug policy, this is nowhere near the power that US states can exercise in response to federal law.

Charlotte explains the unique challenges that the UK faces before achieving legalization, including: a powerful right-wing tabloid media; a deep-rooted anti-cannabis stigma; and particularly unforgiving attitudes towards cognitive liberty.

For show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-64-charlotte-walsh/

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Bett Williams is a contemporary psychedelics pioneer, author, and podcast host. In this episode, she talks with Paul Austin about her introduction to mushrooms, her decades-long break from them, her re-entry into the world of psychedelics, and her experience with solo, ritualized journeys.

In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, host Paul F. Austin sits down with Phoenix White, founder of The Sacred Celestial.

Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-230-phoenix-white/

Recorded in-person at the 2023 Wonderland Conference in Miami, their conversation explores the art of curating transformational psychedelic ceremonies.

From postpartum mental health to creating safe, transformative, and memorable psychedelic containers, Phoenix delves into her journey, including two brain surgeries and her book, "Redefining Strong."

Join Phoenix as she unravels her own psychedelic insights on love, parenting, community, and self-actualization.

Phoenix White:

Phoenix White is revolutionizing the boundaries of mental health as a pioneering force in the realm of transformative healing, driven by an unapologetic dedication to fostering profound personal growth & self-exploration. She has mastered the art of merging spirituality, science, & radically curating immersive multi-sensory healing experiences. Her ‘Sacred Celestial Ceremony’ was nominated for the Retreat of the Year Award at the 2023 Wonderland Conference.

As a visionary and woman of color, Phoenix has triumphed over immense adversity, surviving two brain surgeries and overcoming the challenges of abuse, trauma and homelessness while raising a child as a single mother. Phoenix embodies the true spirit of what it means to rise from the ashes. Her journey has transformed her into a potent healer and a compelling voice in communities worldwide.

Phoenix is the founder of The Sacred Celestial, which has catapulted her into becoming a global leader in the field of psychedelic-assisted therapy through groundbreaking work in ceremonial psychedelics. She is also the best-selling author of Redefining Strong: A Journey to Finding Yourself, True Healing, and Spiritual Recalibration—a riveting story of self-discovery, sacrifice, and healing.

Highlights:

• The overlooked importance of postpartum mental health.
• Psychedelics and breastfeeding.
• Phoenix’s private and group ceremonies with psilocybin.
• Curating impactful ceremonial psychedelic experiences.
• Phoenix’s two brain surgeries and her book, “Redefining Strong.”
• Psychedelic lessons on self-confidence, love, and parenting.
• On creating community around psychedelics.
• How to learn more about Phoenix’s retreats and ceremonies.

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In this Psychedelic Podcast episode, co-host Joseph Anew and leadership coach Lauren Mugglebee unpack self-actualization through psychedelics and embodied coaching.

Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-219-lauren-mugglebee/

Joseph and Lauren examine questions like: What would you do if you had the time and space to think about who you really are? Why are coaches pivotal in your growth? What role does courage play in transformation? And how can microdosing, embodiment, and community support the process?

Tune in for a talk about sailing away from life’s safe harbors and flowing into the authentic unknown.

Lauren Mugglebee:

Lauren Mugglebee is an executive and leadership coach, and a transformational practitioner and facilitator. In addition to her private practice, Lauren is a Third Wave Psychedelic Coaching Institute faculty member.

Lauren uses a variety of somatic and integral modalities in her practice—including pairing inquiry and non-ordinary states of consciousness—to help leaders achieve radical self-awareness and presence. A US native and British citizen, she lives with her partner and young daughters in Northern California, where she teaches and designs bespoke intensives, training, and retreats for engaging emergence.

Before coaching, Lauren spent two decades developing technical products and leading global teams for Facebook, Instagram, OpenTable, and Ticketmaster.

Highlights:

Lauren’s evolution from tech to transformational and leadership coaching.

How psychedelics helped Lauren align her life and career.

How embodied intuition can be a powerful decision-making tool.

Cultivating the courage to “leave safe harbor.”

Lauren’s advice for transitioning into a more fulfilling career.

Lauren’s transformation coaching process and core clients.

Lessons from Lauren’s participation in Third Wave’s Coaching Certification Program (CCP).

CCP’s evolution toward executive and high-performance coaching.

Key Links:

Lauren’s private practice: https://www.laurenmugglebee.com/ 

Third Wave’s Psychedelic Coaching Institute (PCI): https://psychedeliccoaching.institute/

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Kenneth Tupper, drug education expert and co-director of the BC Centre on Substance Use, talks to us about his interest in ayahuasca and the potential of psychedelics to expand our cognitive capabilities. Kenneth discusses society’s resistance to psychedelic knowledge, and what we can do to revolutionize concepts of evidence-based medicine and objectivity.

For a full summary and show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/ken-tupper

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In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes Michael Madera, psychologist, executive coach, and author of "Playing Tag on the Roof." He is also a graduate of The Psychedelic Coaching Institute’s Practitioner Certification Program.

Find full show notes and links here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-283/?ref=278

Michael shares his journey of growing up in a narcissistic family environment, where his father became a con man and his mother a Buddhist nun. He discusses how psychedelics, Internal Family Systems therapy, and other modalities helped him heal from childhood trauma and informed his approach to coaching family businesses. Through his work and personal experience, Michael illuminates the complex interplay between family dynamics, leadership, and the transformative potential of psychedelic medicines.

Michael D. Madera is a psychologist, author, and executive coach specializing in family business dynamics and innovative healing modalities. Trained at Harvard institutions, he combines traditional psychology with ketamine-assisted psychotherapy and breathwork facilitation. His recently released book "Playing Tag on the Roof" explores recovery from narcissistic family dynamics through psychedelics and love. Michael's articles in Family Business press are frequently among the most downloaded in the field. He leads transformative plant medicine retreats in Costa Rica and maintains an active coaching practice helping individuals and family businesses thrive. Beyond his professional work, Michael leads a Boston-based dance band and enjoys sports. He lives near Boston with his wife and two college-age sons.

Highlights:

• Growing up between Toronto and Boston 
• Journey to becoming a psychologist 
• Understanding narcissistic personalities
• Growing up with narcissistic parents 
• Healing through psychotherapy and meditation 
• The three circles of family business
• Psychedelics' role in healing trauma
• IFS and psychedelic integration 
• Ancestral patterns in family businesses

Episode Links:

• Resounding Circles
• Madera Partners Consulting
• Dr. Madera’s new book, “Playing Tag on the Roof: Recovering from a narcissistic family through love and psychedelics”

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In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, host Paul F. Austin talks with Stephanie Wang, founder and CEO of KA! Empathogenics.

Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-252-stephanie-wang/

Stephanie shares her journey from finance to plant medicine, including her involvement at The Alchemist's Kitchen.

Paul and Stephanie discuss the unique benefits of kanna, its comparison to SSRIs, and KA!'s intentional branding. Stephanie also highlights the importance of education and community in the kanna space. She closes by sharing her vision for KA!, touching on exciting new research into kanna.

Stephanie Wang is passionate about the power of plants and evolving consciousness. She is the Founder and CEO of KA! Empathogenics, with a mission to restore full-spectrum aliveness for all beings. KA! offers 100% plant-based empathogenic supplements featuring kanna - a heart-opening succulent from South Africa that is clinically proven to activate an immediate sense of grounded energy, helping people feel more alive, capable and connected as they navigate everyday stress.

Previously Stephanie was the President of The Alchemist's Kitchen and Director of Evolver, a conscious lifestyle company in New York. She was also a documentary and narrative film producer. A native Hong Konger, Stephanie began her career in corporate finance on Wall Street and was a number one ranked equity analyst in the retail sector with HSBC Securities, Hong Kong.

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Highlights:

• From a career in finance to evolving consciousness
• The evolution of the Evolver Network and The Alchemist’s Kitchen
• Stephanie’s first kanna experience
• Kanna as an ally for daily wellbeing, psychedelic integration, and more
• Is kanna an alternative to SSRIs?
• KA!’s branding, design, and educational efforts
• The unique sensation of KA!’s ingredients
• Stephanie’s vision for KA! and the outlook of future kanna research

Episode Links:

• KA! Empathogenics (use code THIRDWAVE for 10% off)  
• KA!’s 30-Day “Journey Into The Heart” Bundle (next journey starts 6/30/24)
  
  

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Rachael Madori, social activist, entrepreneur and former adult film star, shares her experiences with psychedelics, and how they’ve helped her cope with substance misuse, bipolar disorder and borderline personality disorder. Rachael says that without psychedelics, she wouldn’t be here today – a message that she strongly believes in sharing.

For a full show summary and links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/rachael-madori

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Jesse Lawler, host of the Smart Drug Smarts podcast, joins us this week for a discussion on nootropics, transhumanism and the psychedelic experience. Jesse shares his opinions on using psychedelics for self-improvement, and where he sees the future of psychedelics in mainstream society.

For a full summary and show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/jesse-lawler

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Graham Pechenik, founder and patent attorney at Calyx Law, joins The Psychedelic Podcast to delve into the complex world of patents and their impact on the psychedelic landscape. 

Find episode links, summary, and transcript here.

Pechenik raises thought-provoking questions about the patent system's role in fostering innovation while also potentially hindering research and restricting use. He suggests that the patent system, intertwined with regulatory and healthcare structures, often determines whether groundbreaking substances like psilocybin gain FDA approval. Pechenik also explores concerns surrounding excessive psychedelic patents, comparing the unique approaches of COMPASS Pathways, MAPS, and Paul Stamets. 

As the episode unfolds, Graham and Paul contemplate the delicate balance between patent protection and freedom of use in the burgeoning psychedelics industry.

Graham Pechenik is a registered patent attorney and the founder of Calyx Law, a law firm specializing in cannabis and psychedelics-related intellectual property. 

Graham has a BS from UC San Diego, where he chose Cognitive Neuroscience and Biochemistry majors—after his first psychedelic experiences inspired a deep curiosity about the bases for changes in consciousness—and a JD from New York University, where he initially pursued interests in bioethics and cognitive liberty. 

After a decade at large law firms defending and challenging patents for Fortune 500 companies across the agricultural, chemical, pharmaceutical, biotech, and technology industries, including working on several landmark patent cases both at trial and on appeal, Graham started Calyx Law in 2016 to help cannabis and psychedelics ventures design and implement their IP strategies. 

Graham is also editor-at-large of Psychedelic Alpha, where he writes about psychedelics IP, provides data for patent trackers, and maintains a psychedelics legalization and decriminalization tracker. He is the founding steward of the IP Committee of the Psychedelic Bar Association, where he is also on the Board of Directors, and is a member of Chacruna’s Council for the Protection of Sacred Plants. 

Graham was raised in Oakland, CA, and currently lives in San Francisco.

Highlights:

• Examining the unique patent process for the Stamets Stack microdosing protocol.
• How to enforce patents on illegal substances like psilocybin.
• Unpacking COMPASS Pathways’ psilocybin polymorph patent.
• The pros & cons of psychedelic patents.
• How psychedelic patents could hinder therapeutic expansion.
• Graham’s motivation to enter the psychedelic patents space.

Key Links:

• Calyx Law
• Graham on Twitter
• Psychedelic Alpha Psilocybin Patent Tracker
• (blog) Microdosing Psilocybin Mushrooms with the Stamets Stack
• (psychedelic research) New Microdosing Study Investigates “Stamets Stack”
• (psychedelic research) Oregon’s Psychedelic Path: What Coaches and Consumers Need to Know

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