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27 Jun 202410: From Industrial To Regenerative Agriculture, How Do We Get There? | Beth Hunter01:50:41

In this episode, we chat with Beth Hunter, founder of Foodbridge, a non-profit dedicated to shifting our food and agriculture system to more regenerative and sustainable practices. Beth has been at the forefront of environmental advocacy since she co-founded the pioneering environmental organization, Equiterre, and helped create the first CSA network in Quebec in the 1990s. In this conversation, we explore the complex issues involved in industrial farmers transitioning to more ecological practices, the role of culture in industrial vs. small-scale ag, and why we need bold collaboration with big food companies in order to create meaningful change at all scales of farming.

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Timestamps

[1:40] Equiterre story, Supermarket Tours in the 90s, Hungry For Justice booklet

[7:16] History of CSA's

[24:37] Working with Greenpeace on responsible seafood campaign

[32:20] Addressing "systems" to create real change, local food in hospitals and institutions

[40:55] Foodbridge, transitioning industrial farmers to more regenerative practices

[48:01] Cost of transition is too high for farmer's to bear alone

[51:23] Cultural divide as barrier to transition

[55:26] Bold collaborations with big food and ag, difficulty of measuring ecological benefits

[1:15:28] Role of personal actions and responsibility

[1:18:54} Donella Meadows and how to change systems

[1:23:13] Power of marketing, spreading awareness, cultural wave of change

[1:29:54] Collaborating With The Enemy by Adam Kahane and advice to live by


Sponsors

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Links/Resources

Market Gardener Institute:  https://themarketgardener.com/ 

Masterclass:  https://themarketgardener.com/courses/the-market-gardener-masterclass/ 

Newsletter:  https://themarketgardener.com/newsletter

Blog:  https://themarketgardener.com/blog 

Books: https://themarketgardener.com/books

Growers & Co: https://growers.co/

Heirloom: https://heirloom.ag/

The Old Mill: https://www.espaceoldmill.com/en/


Follow Us
Website: http://themarketgardener.com

Facebook: http://facebook.com/marketgardenerinstitute 

Instagram: http://instagram.com/themarketgardeners 


Guest Social Media Links


Beth Hunter:

LinkedIn: https://ca.linkedin.com/in/beth-hunter-44a1034a

Website: https://www.foodbridge.ca/ 

JM:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeanmartinfortier

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeanmartinfortier 



04 Jul 202411: Re-Introducing Farming To Urban People & Beyond | Christa Barfield 'FarmerJawn'02:12:38

In this episode we chat with Christa Barfield, founder of FarmerJawn, a Philadelphia based farm focused on reintroducing farming into the lifestyles of underserved communities. Farmerjawn is the largest black-woman owned regenerative organic produce farm in the United States and hosts a variety of educational programs and experiences that bring healthy food and nature back into the lives of urban people. In this wide-ranging conversation we discuss the stigmatized relationship that many black & brown people have with the land and how to fix it, the power of amplifying one's voice to spread a message, how we can make healthy local food more accessible and convenient for urban people, and how agriculture is equally a part of all our lineages


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Timestamps

[2:25] Agriculture is the culture

[6:06] Christa's journey to agriculture started with a trip to a Caribbean island

[12:49] RE-introducing farming to underserved communities

[15:35] Christa's farm, education, helping black people "see themselves" in farming

[35:30] Reimagining corner stores with 'CornerJawn'

[46:41] Getting pushback as a black woman in farming

[49:54] Winning the James Beard Leadership Award, perception/marketing/awareness

[1:07:44] Land access, community gardens, marketing & branding for farmers

[1:27:38] Making local food more convenient, stories behind seeds

[1:32:35] Visibility and amplifying your voice, 93% of US farms are small

[1:44:11] Social media gift & curse

[1:50:31] Bridge To Terabithea by Katherine Paterson - reading Oscar Wilde

[1:53:34] "Give me my flowers while I can still smell them"

[1:58:32] Farming reality show


Sponsors

Bootstrap Farmer https://www.bootstrapfarmer.com/?utm_source=mg-jm&utm_medium=podcast 

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Links/Resources

Market Gardener Institute:  https://themarketgardener.com/ 

Masterclass:  https://themarketgardener.com/courses/the-market-gardener-masterclass/ 

Newsletter:  https://themarketgardener.com/newsletter

Blog:  https://themarketgardener.com/blog 

Books: https://themarketgardener.com/books

Growers & Co: https://growers.co/

Heirloom: https://heirloom.ag/

The Old Mill: https://www.espaceoldmill.com/en/


Follow Us
Website: http://themarketgardener.com

Facebook: http://facebook.com/marketgardenerinstitute 

Instagram: http://instagram.com/themarketgardeners 


Guest Social Media Links

Christa Barfield:

Instagram: http://instagram.com/farmerjawn_ 

Facebook: http://facebook.com/farmerjawncsa Website: https://www.farmerjawn.co/

Twitter (X): http://twitter.com/farmerjawn_

Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/christa-barfield-2b608486/ 

JM:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeanmartinfortier

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeanmartinfortier 


13 Jun 20248: The Woman Behind 'The Market Gardener' | Maude-Hélène Desroches01:40:06

In this episode we chat with Maude-Hélène Desroches, JM’s wife and farming partner, who has been operating their home farm, La Grelinette, by herself since 2015. Maude-Hélène not only has a wealth of knowledge and experience in small-scale organic farming but is also a committed environmentalist who believes in the power of eco-citizenship and community to shape a better future. We delve into the innovative farming methods at La Grelinette, the farm's evolution over the years, the pressing issue of overdevelopment, and the importance of rewilding spaces. Maude-Hélène also shares insights on how individual actions can create a ripple effect of positive change in the world.


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Timestamps

[1:34] Intro

[2:37] Discovering farming in the early 2000's through travel in Mexico and New Mexico

[9:41] Returning to Quebec, having a child and starting a farm, living in a teepee

[17:59] The origin of 'La Grelinette' Farm and it's evolution over time

[22:35] Realizing the farm was onto something, JM writing The Market Gardener

[27:49] Soil health, ecological practices, mulch/compost/fertilizer/plastic

[40:57] The future, over development, spreading of small farms, conservation

[53:17] Eco-citizenship

[59:53] Local farms' impact on communities and society

[1:07:08] Older and seasoned farmers inspiring the next generation

[1:12:11] Advice for team management, work/life balance,

[1:21:10] Past employees starting their own farms

[1:25:55] Soil by Matthew Evans

[1:28:48] Inspired by Eliot Coleman, visiting Frith Farm in Maine

[1:30:45] Personal growth through overcoming challenges

[1:35:08] The future of 'La Grelinette'


Sponsors

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Links/Resources

Market Gardener Institute:  https://themarketgardener.com/ 

Masterclass:  https://themarketgardener.com/courses/the-market-gardener-masterclass/ 

Newsletter:  https://themarketgardener.com/newsletter

Blog:  https://themarketgardener.com/blog 

Books: https://themarketgardener.com/books

Growers & Co: https://growers.co/

Heirloom: https://heirloom.ag/

The Old Mill: https://www.espaceoldmill.com/en/


Follow Us

Website: http://themarketgardener.com

Facebook: http://facebook.com/marketgardenerinstitute 

Instagram: http://instagram.com/themarketgardeners


Guest Social Media Links


Maude-Hélène:

Website: https://lagrelinette.com/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/LesJardinsdelaGrelinette/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/la_grelinette/


JM:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeanmartinfortier

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeanmartinfortier

16 May 20244: Can Small Farms Reclaim Agriculture In The Tech Age? | Pete Russell01:40:36

In this episode, we speak with Pete Russell, founder of Ooooby, an online platform helping growers to increase sales, simplify packing, and optimize deliveries. We go deep into understanding our current food system, exploring how we got here and where we are going. We explore the history of food shopping, shifting consumer behavior post-covid, innovative business models, and why Pete believes we are at the beginning of a new paradigm in our food system. 


Ooooby: https://www.ooooby.com/ 


PLEASE make sure to subscribe to the podcast, download our episodes, and rate them! Your support means the world to us. Thank you!


Sponsors

Bootstrap Farmer ⁠https://www.bootstrapfarmer.com/⁠ 

Market Gardener Institute ⁠https://themarketgardener.com/courses⁠  

Use promo code podcast15 for 15% off these select courses:

  • Mastering Greenhouse Production

  • 8 Most Profitable Crops

  • Season Extension Strategies

  • Market Gardening & Organic Farming for Beginners

  • Winter Farming Strategies


Timestamps

[2:01] Intro

[3:06] Pete's mission to put small-scale back at the heart of the food system

[6:04] How Ooooby helps farmers sell online / customer shopping experience

[11:15] Supply chain deep-dive

[14:01] Impact of 2008 financial crisis on the food system

[18:01] How the 1990 Australian recession influenced Pete to play outside the system

[25:22] How COVID-19 shifted consumer behavior toward online shopping and local food sourcing

[35:29] How new tech is allowing small farms to compete with industrial agriculture

[43:33] Story of Soul Farm

[49:29] How online shopping is bringing a new demographic to local food

[54:30] Centralized v. Decentralized food system

[56:18] Ooooby's innovative ownership model

[1:03:46] Hidden downside of democratic/cooperative business models

[1:12:18] How to get started with Ooooby

[1:21:40] Ooooby features; automatic packing lists, automatic delivery routes, online shop front etc.

[1:28:22] Society is at a turning point, have we gone too far?

[1:31:10] Concept of 'home' and its deeper societal meaning

[1:34:49] The Sovereign Individual by James Dale Davidson & Lord William Rees-Mogg

[1:35:50] Importance of family


Links/Resources

Market Gardener Institute:  https://themarketgardener.com/ 

Masterclass:  https://themarketgardener.com/courses/the-market-gardener-masterclass/ 

Newsletter:  https://themarketgardener.com/newsletter

Blog:  https://themarketgardener.com/blog 

Books: https://themarketgardener.com/books

Growers & Co: https://growers.co/

Heirloom: https://heirloom.ag/

The Old Mill: https://www.espaceoldmill.com/en/


Follow Us

Website: http://themarketgardener.com

Facebook: http://facebook.com/marketgardenerinstitute 

Instagram: http://instagram.com/themarketgardeners 


Guest Social Media Links

IG: https://www.instagram.com/oooobyhq/ 

X: https://twitter.com/Ooooby 

FB: https://www.facebook.com/oooobyuk/ 

LinkedIn: https://uk.linkedin.com/company/ooooby 

Website: https://www.ooooby.com/ 

01 May 20242: The Fight To Save Organic | Dave Chapman01:55:07

Show Notes

In this episode, featuring Dave Chapman from the Real Organic Project, the discussion explores the struggles and philosophical shifts within the organic farming community, especially concerning the corporate influence on organic certification standards. 

Dave recounts the historical context of organic farming, emphasizing its roots as a movement against conventional agricultural practices and its evolution into a significant market force. He explains how this has sparked a debate within the community about the essence of organic farming and led to the creation of the Real Organic Project, which aims to uphold more traditional organic practices.


Real Organic Project:

https://realorganicproject.org/ 

PLEASE make sure to subscribe to the podcast, download our episodes, and rate them! Your support means the world to us. Thank you!

Sponsors

Bootstrap Farmer https://www.bootstrapfarmer.com/ 

Ooooby https://www.ooooby.com/ (mention the podcast for 75% off onboarding fee)

New Society Publishing https://newsociety.com/ (use code smallfarm25 for 25% off all books)

[2:53] Intro

[4:19] Organic has always been an insurgency

[7:14] History of organic

[8:26] Ivy league kids growing their own food in the 60s

[10:26] Dave's farming story

[13:59] You couldn't find organic at the grocery store in the 90s

[15:03] Early adopters of organic and its importance

[16:32] Fraudulent organic grain in the US

[18:10] The moment it stopped being a "movement"

[19:00] Patrick Holden, Lady Eve Balfour, and Albert Howard

[20:34] Corporate forces co-opting the cultural movement

[23:37] The rapid loss of meaning with "regenerative"

[27:56] Rachel Carson's Silent Spring

[34:43] History of ag in Asia - F.H. King's Farmers Of 40 Centuries

[36:44] Hydroponic becomes organic and the start of the Real Organic Project

[42:00] CAFO's in organic

[44:30] Zephyr Teachout's Break 'Em Up

[45:43] Monopolies were being broken up before Robert Bork changed things in the 1980s

[48:56] 70% of organic berries in the US are Driscoll's berries

[53:23] How can small organic farmers compete with the prices of big organic?

[54:47] Majority of our food production moving to central America

[58:26] Thoreau and ML King's activism

[1:02:48] There has always been bad farming even before chemical agriculture

[1:04:59] Why big companies love "regenerative"

[1:07:12] Monsanto's "climate smart" agriculture

[1:08:04 Is "No-Till" being co-opted too?

[1:12:04] Pepsi claims regenerative?!

[1:13:25] Hope for the future

[1:18:33] The world's best manipulators have all the money, and they're working tirelessly to mislead you

[1:19:09] Seth Godin on the internet

[1:20:20] It was hard for the pioneers in the past, and it won't be easy in the future either

[1:25:30] Europe's field to fork initiative

[1:42:50] The Real Organic Project

[1:45:19] What book have you read more than once?

[1:46:56] What advice did you only appreciate later in life?

[1:49:05] What's the best difficult decision and best mistake you've ever made?


Links/Resources

Market Gardener Institute:  https://themarketgardener.com/ 

Masterclass:  https://themarketgardener.com/courses/the-market-gardener-masterclass/ 

Newsletter:  https://themarketgardener.com/newsletter

Blog:  https://themarketgardener.com/blog 

Books: https://themarketgardener.com/books

Growers & Co: https://growers.co/

Heirloom: https://heirloom.ag/

The Old Mill: https://www.espaceoldmill.com/en/


Follow Us

Website: http://themarketgardener.com

Facebook: http://facebook.com/marketgardenerinstitute 

Instagram: http://instagram.com/themarketgardeners 

Guest Social Media Links

Real Organic Project:

https://realorganicproject.org/ 

JM:

https://www.instagram.com/jeanmartinfortier

https://www.facebook.com/jeanmartinfortier 

Chris:

https://www.instagram.com/chris_m_moran 


24 Oct 202414: Recap Season 1! In Case You Missed It | JM Fortier & Chris Moran02:00:09

Show Notes

This week, JM and Chris reflect on season 1, discussing the themes and ideas that stood out for them, what they learned, what surprised them, and what is exciting them the most about the future of this movement. You’ll hear clips from each episode along with reflections, giving you a feel for each guest in case you missed any, and a birds-eye view of the themes that came up throughout the season. 

See you in Season 2, coming October 31st!


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Timestamps

[12:11] Rob Rock - Ep 9

[20:55] Dave Chapman - Ep 2

[30:19] Jeff Tkach - Ep 12[42:15] David McMillan - Ep 7

[48:17] Maude-Hélène Desrochers - Ep 8

[59:10] Orlane Panet - Ep 6

[1:07:17] Thierry Lison - Ep 5

[1:12:00] Stephanie Wang - Ep 3 

[1:19:34] Christa Barfield - Ep 11[1:28:43] Pete Russel - Ep 4

[1:37:48] Beth Hunter - Ep 10


Book List:

Break Em Up by Zephyr Teachout

Barons by Austin Frerick

A Wizard Of Earthsea by Ursula Le Guin

The Joy Of BurnOut by Dina Glouberman

Ru by Kim Thuy

The Sovereign Individual by James Dale Davidson & Lord William Rees-Mogg

Permaculture Design Handbook by Bill Mollison

World Without End by Jean-Marc Jancovici

The Four Agreements by Don Miguel Ruiz

A History Of Food by Maguelonne Touissant-Samat

Nothing If Not Critical: Selected Essays On Art And Artists by Robert Hughes

Soil by Matthew Evans

The One Straw Revolution by Masanobu Fukuoka

Collaborating With The Enemy by Adam Kahane

Bridge To Terabithea by Katherine Paterson

The Monk Who Sold His Ferarri by Robin Sharma


Sponsors

Market Gardener Institute

Use promo code podcast15 for 15% off these select courses:

  • Mastering Greenhouse Production

  • 8 Most Profitable Crops

  • Season Extension Strategies

  • Market Gardening & Organic Farming for Beginners

  • Winter Farming Strategies


Links/Resources

Market Gardener Institute:  https://themarketgardener.com/ 

Masterclass:  https://themarketgardener.com/courses/the-market-gardener-masterclass/ 

Newsletter:  https://themarketgardener.com/newsletter

Blog:  https://themarketgardener.com/blog 

Books: https://themarketgardener.com/books

Growers & Co: https://growers.co/

Heirloom: https://heirloom.ag/

The Old Mill: https://www.espaceoldmill.com/en/


Follow Us

Website: http://themarketgardener.com 

Facebook: http://facebook.com/marketgardenerinstitute 

Instagram: http://instagram.com/themarketgardeners 


Guest Social Media Links

JM:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeanmartinfortier

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeanmartinfortier 


13 Feb 202527: $200K Revenue On Just 1 Acre! How They Built A Profitable Small Farm | Doug Wolcik & Kayleigh Boyle Breadseed Farm02:00:47

In this episode, we sit down with Doug and Kayleigh fromBreadseed Farm, who share their inspiring journey of leaving salaried farm management positions tostart their own one-acre, no-till, human-powered farmin Vermont. They open up about the challenges and rewards ofmaking the leap to farm ownership, including thefear of financial instability and the excitement ofbuilding something from the ground up.

We discuss the realities ofmaking a living as small-scale farmers, how they grew their farm to nearly$200K in revenue in just a few years, and the importance of creatingefficient systems to maximize productivity.

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Timestamps

[10:47] Leaving salaried farm management to start their own farm

[15:17] Acquiring land and starting Breadseed Farm during COVID

[20:51] HowThe Market Gardener book inspired their no-till transition

[26:25] Managing a farm crew: Lessons in communication and efficiency

[30:40] The importance of community engagement and on-farm experiences

[38:06] Breaking into farmers markets and building strong sales channels

[44:12] Why community-driven markets drive farm success

[50:15] Balancing work-life and avoiding burnout as farmers

[58:39] Expanding revenue streams: Flowers, CSA, and microgreens

[1:06:04] Greenhouse production and extending the growing season

[1:14:13] The financial impact of selling flowers and value-added products

[1:21:21] Kayleigh’s wreath-making and value-added farm products

[1:36:24] Rapid Fire Q&A - East Of Edenby John Steinbeck &The Orchard by Adele Crockett Robertson


Sponsors

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Market Gardener Institutehttps://themarketgardener.com/courses/the-market-gardener-masterclass/?utm_medium=podcast&utm_source=apple-spotify&utm_campaign=saison2


Links/Resources

Market Gardener Institute: https://themarketgardener.com/ 

Masterclass: https://themarketgardener.com/courses/the-market-gardener-masterclass/ 

Newsletter: https://themarketgardener.com/newsletter

Blog: https://themarketgardener.com/blog 

Books:https://themarketgardener.com/books

Growers & Co:https://growers.co/

Heirloom:https://heirloom.ag/

The Old Mill:https://www.espaceoldmill.com/en/


Follow Us

Website:http://themarketgardener.com 

Facebook:http://facebook.com/marketgardenerinstitute 

Instagram:http://instagram.com/themarketgardeners 


Guest Social Media Links


Breadseed Farm:

Website:www.breadseedfarm.com

Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/breadseedfarm/

Facebook:https://www.facebook.com/breadseedfarm/ 


JM:

Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/jeanmartinfortier
Facebook:https://www.facebook.com/jeanmartinfortier

30 Jan 202525: NOW Is The Perfect Time To Start A Small Organic Farm | JM Fortier00:47:35

In this solo episode, Jean-Martin Fortier takes a deep dive into the question: Is it still realistic to start a small organic farm today? Addressing both aspiring and seasoned farmers, he explores the financial viability of small-scale farming, the challenges of land access, and the shifting landscape of local food systems. JM emphasizes that, despite obstacles, small farms remain economically viable and play a crucial role in strengthening local economies and food sovereignty. With a call for unity in the face of growing corporate influence and climate change challenges, this episode is a rallying cry for farmers to stay resilient, engaged, and committed to the movement.

PLEASE make sure to subscribe to the podcast, download our episodes, and rate them! Your support means the world to us. Thank you!


Timestamps

[03:22] The need for economic data on small farms

[05:01] Challenges with policy & institutional support

[08:51] Is it still realistic to start a small farm?

[13:01] Social justice & small farming

[16:06] The importance of local food systems

[19:23] The corporate threat to local food

[20:17] Ecology, community & lifestyle

[26:17] The mindset of a successful farmer

[30:40] The responsibility of experienced farmers

[33:00] The global reach of the small farm movement

[36:28] The need for farmer leadership & policy advocacy

[37:51] The CANOPY program & strengthening farmer networks

[38:46] The fragility & power of the small farming movement

[40:14] Climate change & small farms as a solution




Tessier 

Use promocode MGI10 for 10% off and free shipping on your first purchase for the Eastern North American regions (Ontario, the Maritimes, and the states of Vermont, Maine, New York, and New Hampshire). 

Bootstrap 

https://bootstrapfarmer.com/marketgardenerpodcast

Heirloom 

Limited time offer of 20% off yearly subscription and use promocode PODCAST to get an extra month of free trial.


Links/Resources

Market Gardener Institute:  https://themarketgardener.com/ 

Masterclass:  https://themarketgardener.com/courses/the-market-gardener-masterclass/ 

Newsletter:  https://themarketgardener.com/newsletter

Blog:  https://themarketgardener.com/blog 

Books: https://themarketgardener.com/books

Growers & Co: https://growers.co/

Heirloom: https://heirloom.ag/

The Old Mill: https://www.espaceoldmill.com/en/


Follow Us

Website: http://themarketgardener.com 

Facebook: http://facebook.com/marketgardenerinstitute 

Instagram: http://instagram.com/themarketgardeners 


Guest Social Media Links

JM:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeanmartinfortier

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeanmartinfortier 


30 May 20246: Transforming Our Cities Through Urban Farming | Orlane Panet01:42:46

In this episode we speak with Orlane Panet, co-founder of Microhabitat, an urban farming company creating roof top gardens in cities all around the world. We discuss urban population growth and why we need to re-imagine the cities' unused spaces and how rooftop gardens can be a gateway for city dwellers to learn about sustainability, ecological agriculture, healthy eating and more. Orlane shares her belief in business as a way to make positive change in the world and how the urban farms of Microhabitat have much greater impact than meets the eye.


To learn more about Microhabitat visit: https://microhabitat.com/ 


PLEASE make sure to subscribe to the podcast, download our episodes, and rate them! Your support means the world to us. Thank you!


Timestamps

[3:56] Microhabitat model and origin story

[10:05] Re-thinking the urban environment

[16:28] Importance of living soil in urban farming

[18:13] Standardization v. improvisation for success in farming and business

[21:54] Social and community impact of urban farms

[29:09] Container growing v. green roofs

[32:48] Alternative career opportunities for farmers

[35:30] Environmental reporting - pollinator tracking with sound and air DNA

[42:41] Covid's effect on urban farming

[49:29] Importance of education in creating change

[53:35] How a grower or property owner can get involved

[1:01:30] How urban gardens help small farms outside the city

[1:05:02] Orlane's personal journey from health issues to organic farming

[1:10:47] Why hydroponics is not the answer

[1:14:10] The meaning of "sustainability"

[1:15:16] Why for-profit business can be more impactful than non-profit

[1:20:30] Why collaborating with the "bad guys" may be the best way to change them

[1:28:47] The Four Agreements by Don Miguel Ruiz


Sponsors

Bootstrap Farmer https://www.bootstrapfarmer.com/ 

Activevista https://www.activevista.com.au/

  • Use promocode Welcome10 for 10% off your first order!


Links/Resources

Market Gardener Institute:  https://themarketgardener.com/ 

Masterclass:  https://themarketgardener.com/courses/the-market-gardener-masterclass/ 

Newsletter:  https://themarketgardener.com/newsletter

Blog:  https://themarketgardener.com/blog 

Books: https://themarketgardener.com/books

Growers & Co: https://growers.co/

Heirloom: https://heirloom.ag/

The Old Mill: https://www.espaceoldmill.com/en/


Follow Us

Website: http://themarketgardener.com

Facebook: http://facebook.com/marketgardenerinstitute 

Instagram: http://instagram.com/themarketgardeners 


Guest Social Media Links

Microhabitat:

Website: https://microhabitat.com/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/microhabitat.ca/ 

Linkedin: https://ca.linkedin.com/company/microhabitat 

Twitter (X): https://twitter.com/microhabitat_ca 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/microhabitat.ca 

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2b2oLw3wSmH5azWjALI7Ig/videos 

JM:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeanmartinfortier

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeanmartinfortier 



23 May 20245: Permaculture Meets Market Gardening In French Polynesia | Thierry Lison01:40:55

Thierry Lison is a market gardener, permaculture teacher, AND marine biologist from French Polynesia. In this episode we explore how Thierry's career in marine biology and a passion for surfing led him to focus on the devastating effects of industrial agriculture on coral reefs, and ultimately start a market garden on a tiny tropical island. His farm, Vaihuti Fresh, blends the principles of permaculture with the strategies of high-yield market gardening while making a positive social impact in the unique context of the Polynesian islands.

From coconut-peat soil mix and crabs as garden pests to worldwide biodiversity loss; this wide ranging conversation will give you plenty to think about!


PLEASE make sure to subscribe to the podcast, download our episodes, and rate them! Your support means the world to us. Thank you!


Sponsors

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Market Gardener Institute ⁠https://themarketgardener.com/courses⁠  

Use promo code podcast15 for 15% off these select courses:

  • Mastering Greenhouse Production

  • 8 Most Profitable Crops

  • Season Extension Strategies

  • Market Gardening & Organic Farming for Beginners

  • Winter Farming Strategies


Timestamps

[5:51] Background in marine biology studying coral reefs

[9:45] Starting a farm in Polynesia

[14:59] Link between permaculture and market gardening

{24:01] Crabs as garden pests

{24:49] Research with biochar, coconut husk, and mycorrhizal fungi

[34:14] Rewarding farmers for benefitting ecosystem

[36:00] Loss of biodiversity

[38:46] Cooperative cold-storage and nurseries on the island

[43:31] Making coconut-peat

[49:25] Unique history and economy of Polynesia

[50:12] Covid as turning point for food sovereignty

[55:39] Conventional farmers transitioning to organic

[1:02:05] Education on the farm

[1:07:08] Unique challenges of farming on a tropical island

[1:17:05] Indigenous tradition on the islands

[1:26:10] Permaculture Design Handbook by Bill Mollison

[1:26:42] Jean-Marc Jancovici's 'World Without End' 

[1:33:16] Quote from Charles Eisenstein


Links/Resources

Market Gardener Institute:  https://themarketgardener.com/ 

Masterclass:  https://themarketgardener.com/courses/the-market-gardener-masterclass/ 

Newsletter:  https://themarketgardener.com/newsletter

Blog:  https://themarketgardener.com/blog 

Books: https://themarketgardener.com/books

Growers & Co: https://growers.co/

Heirloom: https://heirloom.ag/

The Old Mill: https://www.espaceoldmill.com/en/


Follow Us
Website: http://themarketgardener.com

Facebook: http://facebook.com/marketgardenerinstitute 

Instagram: http://instagram.com/themarketgardeners 


Guest Social Media Links

Thierry:

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/vaihuti/

Website: https://vaihutifresh.com/ 

JM:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeanmartinfortier

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeanmartinfortier 



09 May 20243: Food Sovereignty & The Future Of Farming | Stephanie Wang01:47:17

In this episode, we talk with Stephanie Wang; farmer, activist, and author. Stephanie specializes in growing Asian vegetables and creating transformed products such as kimchi on her farm Le Rizen in southern Quebec. Her passion for food sovereignty was sparked by her experiences with Via Campesina, a peasant rights organization, during her early 20s. 

We take a deep dive into the perils of our current food and agriculture system, the challenges that both growers and consumers face, and we explore actionable solutions for achieving true food sovereignty for communities worldwide.

Stephanie’s book Asian Vegetables: https://www.lerizen.ca/asianvegetablesbook 

PLEASE make sure to subscribe to the podcast, download our episodes, and rate them! Your support means the world to us. Thank you!

Sponsors

Bootstrap Farmer https://www.bootstrapfarmer.com/ 

Market Gardener Institute https://themarketgardener.com/courses  

Use promo code podcast15 for 15% off these select courses:

  • Mastering Greenhouse Production

  • 8 Most Profitable Crops

  • Season Extension Strategies

  • Market Gardening & Organic Farming for Beginners

  • Winter Farming Strategies

Timestamps:

[2:36] Intro

[3:20] Travels and work in India with Via Campesina 

[10:35] Starting her farm Le Rizen

[15:41] Alternative land access models/farm business models

[25:28] Land trusts

[31:00] Hospital system v. agriculture system

[36:38] Perennial Farms text and the struggles of farmers

[36:49] Documentary Je me soulève (Upwelling) by Hugo Latulippe

[41:20] Value-added products - Kimchi

[47:10] Food Sovereignty

[56:31] Quebec mass producing pork for China

[1:00:44] Agroecology

[1:12:11] State of the family farm

[1:15:22] Asian Vegetables book - Culinary heritage

[1:28:30] Louisa May Alcott’s Little Women and the bond between sisters 

[1:31:00] Burnout as a farmer and The Joy of Burnout by Dina Glouberman

[1:40:42] The film Ru, based on the book by Kim Thúy


Links/Resources

Market Gardener Institute:  https://themarketgardener.com/ 

Masterclass:  https://themarketgardener.com/courses/the-market-gardener-masterclass/ 

Newsletter:  https://themarketgardener.com/newsletter

Blog:  https://themarketgardener.com/blog 

Books: https://themarketgardener.com/books

Growers & Co: https://growers.co/

Heirloom: https://heirloom.ag/

The Old Mill: https://www.espaceoldmill.com/en/


Follow Us

Website: http://themarketgardener.com

Facebook: http://facebook.com/marketgardenerinstitute 

Instagram: http://instagram.com/themarketgardeners 


Guest Social Media Links

Stephanie:

Book: https://www.lerizen.ca/asianvegetablesbook 

Website: https://www.lerizen.ca/

IG: https://www.instagram.com/le.rizen/

FB: https://www.facebook.com/le.rizen/ 

Contact: info@lerizen.ca 

JM:

IG: https://www.instagram.com/jeanmartinfortier
FB: https://www.facebook.com/jeanmartinfortier 

06 Jun 20247: From World Famous Chef To Small-Scale Farmer | David McMillan02:33:21

In this episode we chat with David McMillan, chef, author, and co-founder of the famous Joe Beef restaurant in Montreal. David left the restaurant business in 2021 and now resides and works on his small farm, Hayfield Farm, where he is re-discovering the ‘art of living’ in the countryside. In this wide-ranging and colorful conversation we explore the power of cooking with homegrown foods, how social media is hurting regional cuisine, viticulture & natural wines, traditional French food culture, and how David has found true happiness in his new life on the farm.

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Timestamps

[4:52] Intro

[5:44] Chef's relationship with farmers

[10:49] David's background working in french kitchens

[12:25] The famed Bresse chicken

[17:27] The story of Joe Beef

[23:55] The art of living - from city chef to countryside farmer

[26:15] The joys and challenges of growing grapes and making wine

[42:16] Deer overpopulation and wild game in restaurants

[55:52] Natural wine deep dive

[57:14] Why has the craft beer movement not embraced organic agriculture?

[1:25:54] Why David is cooking the best food of his career right now at home on his farm

[1:31:23] History of food and the bread of ancient Rome

[1:32:49] Are we losing precious things in our modern culture?

[1:42:23] Is social media ruining regional cuisine?

[1:53:52] Importance of home cooking

[1:57:37] Anthony Bourdain - kitchen culture - Gen-Z vs Gen-X

[2:08:15] Finding happiness on the farm

[2:11:20] New book and TV show in the works (World's oldest restaurants?!)

[2:20:32] A History Of Food by Maguelonne Toussaint-Samat

[2:20:56] Nothing If Not Critical: Selected Essays on Art and Artists by Robert Hughes

[2:23:49] The mystery of David's grandmother's toast


Sponsors

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Use promocode MGI10 for 10% off and free shipping on your first purchase for the Eastern North American regions (Ontario, the Maritimes, and the states of Vermont, Maine, New York, and New Hampshire).

Links/Resources

Market Gardener Institute:  https://themarketgardener.com/ 

Masterclass:  https://themarketgardener.com/courses/the-market-gardener-masterclass/ 

Newsletter:  https://themarketgardener.com/newsletter

Blog:  https://themarketgardener.com/blog 

Books: https://themarketgardener.com/books

Growers & Co: https://growers.co/

Heirloom: https://heirloom.ag/

The Old Mill: https://www.espaceoldmill.com/en/


Follow Us
Website: http://themarketgardener.com

Facebook: http://facebook.com/marketgardenerinstitute 

Instagram: http://instagram.com/themarketgardeners 


Guest Social Media Links


David:

Instagram:

www.instagram.com/davidmcmillanmtl/

www.instagram.com/hayfieldfarm/ 

www.instagram.com/hayfieldfarmcottage/

Twitter (X):

https://x.com/davemcmillanmtl 

JM:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeanmartinfortier

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeanmartinfortier 





18 Jul 202413: Episode Swap! Real Organic Podcast w/ Dave Chapman & Jean-Martin Fortier01:14:56

This week we're sharing with you an episode of 'The Real Organic Podcast' in which JM sits down with Dave Chapman to discuss the potential of promoting a replicable, decentralized food and farming system that relies on people building relationships with both land and community, by engaging their powers of observation and connection.


Real Organic Podcast: https://realorganicproject.org/get-educated/podcasts/

Real Organic Project: https://realorganicproject.org/ 


PLEASE make sure to subscribe to the podcast, download our episodes, and rate them! Your support means the world to us. Thank you!


Sponsors

Bootstrap Farmer https://www.bootstrapfarmer.com/?utm_source=mg-jm&utm_medium=podcast 


Links/Resources

Market Gardener Institute:  https://themarketgardener.com/ 

Masterclass:  https://themarketgardener.com/courses/the-market-gardener-masterclass/ 

Newsletter:  https://themarketgardener.com/newsletter

Blog:  https://themarketgardener.com/blog 

Books: https://themarketgardener.com/books

Growers & Co: https://growers.co/

Heirloom: https://heirloom.ag/

The Old Mill: https://www.espaceoldmill.com/en/


Follow Us
Website: http://themarketgardener.com

Facebook: http://facebook.com/marketgardenerinstitute 

Instagram: http://instagram.com/themarketgardeners 


Guest Social Media

Real Organic Project:

Website: https://realorganicproject.org/

Podcast: https://realorganicproject.org/get-educated/podcasts/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/realorganicproject/

Twitter (X): https://twitter.com/realorganicproj

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/realorganicproject/

Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/real-organic-project 


JM:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeanmartinfortier

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeanmartinfortier 

16 Jan 202523: Farming for Michelin-Starred Restaurant Pearl Morissette | Culinary Farmer Shane Harper01:51:57

This week, we speak with Shane Harper, chef-turned-farmer who combines culinary expertise with innovative farming practices to bridge the gap between the farm and the table.

Shane shares his journey from running pastry kitchens in Toronto to becoming a grower for one of Canada's premier farm-to-table restaurants. He explores how his structured approach in fine dining kitchens informed his farming methods, focusing on efficiency, flavor, and the lifecycle of plants. We dive into his philosophy of creating self-sustaining systems on the farm, his insights on working with chefs to redefine "farm-to-table," and the importance of reconnecting people with the land.

Shane highlights the value of precision in farming, his experiments with unique crops, and his belief in the "great reskilling" movement—encouraging a return to hands-on, sustainable trades. This conversation is a deep dive into the intersection of hospitality and agriculture, offering inspiration for chefs, farmers, and food enthusiasts alike.

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Timestamps

[03:29] Transitioning from fine dining to establishing a farm-to-table garden.

[07:15] Starting the garden at a Michelin-starred restaurant and earning a Green Star.

[10:10] Building a sustainable farm and experimenting with new crops.

[15:00] Understanding crop lifecycles and their applications in culinary farming.

[18:50] Developing self-regulating farm systems and animal integration.

[22:15] Challenges in learning through trial and error as a new farmer.

[26:30] Working directly with chefs to craft menus and ingredient strategies.

[31:45] Transitioning from market gardening to hospitality-driven farming.

[35:20] The importance of flavor-driven agriculture and chef collaborations.

[40:30] Learning from mistakes and adapting farm practices.

[45:50] Exploring the future of farming as a celebrated profession.

[50:10] The power of storytelling in connecting guests with farm experiences.

[55:20] Advice for farmers working with chefs and understanding their needs.

[01:00:40] Economics of running a farm for a restaurant.

[01:05:20] Joys and challenges of farming life.

[01:10:15] The "great reskilling" and its cultural significance.

[01:15:00] Final reflections on farming as a timeless and essential profession.

[01:21:10] Rapid Fire Q&A - The French Laundry by Thomas Keller


Sponsors

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Growers https://growers.co/?utm_source=ijm&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=season2

Use promocode PODCAST for 15% off clothing and accessories.

Market Gardener Institute


Links/Resources

Market Gardener Institute:  https://themarketgardener.com/ 

Masterclass:  https://themarketgardener.com/courses/the-market-gardener-masterclass/ 

Newsletter:  https://themarketgardener.com/newsletter

Blog:  https://themarketgardener.com/blog 

Books: https://themarketgardener.com/books

Growers & Co: https://growers.co/

Heirloom: https://heirloom.ag/

The Old Mill: https://www.espaceoldmill.com/en/


Follow Us

Website: http://themarketgardener.com 

Facebook: http://facebook.com/marketgardenerinstitute 

Instagram: http://instagram.com/themarketgardeners 


Guest Social Media Links

Shane:

Instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/pirate.produce

https://www.instagram.com/garden_pearlmorissette

https://www.instagram.com/pearlmorissette 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/restaurantpearlmorissette 


JM:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeanmartinfortier

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeanmartinfortier 

11 Jul 202412: Does Human Health Start In The Soil? | Jeff Tkach CEO Rodale Institute01:44:32

This week, we chat with Jeff Tkach, CEO of the Rodale Institute, the global leader in regenerative organic agriculture. For over 75 years, the Rodale Institute has been at the forefront of organic agriculture research and education, guided by the belief that healthy soil = healthy food = healthy humans. In this wide-ranging conversation, we explore how Jeff brings his own passion for health into his role as CEO, discuss the 40+ years of research comparing organic and conventional agriculture at Rodale, delve into the concept that healthcare truly begins in the soil, and examine the cultural shift that is drawing more people back to the land.

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Timestamps

[4:01] History of Rodale Institute - J.I. Rodale story - Land Grant system

[16:41] Jeff's past health problems and how it led him to farming

[28:05] Healthcare to farming connection - Doctors conference on a farm

[38:26] Research comparing organic to conventional ag - Nutrient density of food

[49:56] "Regenerative Organic" and Rodale's ROC certification

[55:58] Transitioning from conventional to organic - Rodale's consultancy program & farmer training

[1:03:05] Cultural shift of people going back to the land - Food has energy and meaning

[1:13:20] Food as medicine - meal at the Old Mill

[1:22:54] Critics of organic farming and how they misuse science

[1:29:32] "The earth is healing us, not the other way around."

[1:34:09] Jeff's "ikigai" (reason for getting out of bed in the morning)

[1:37:43] The Monk Who Sold His Ferrari by Robin Sharma

[1:39:34] The miracle that is soil

Sponsors

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New Society Publishing https://newsociety.com/ (use code smallfarm25 for 25% off all books)

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Use promocode MGI10 for 10% off and free shipping on your first purchase for the Eastern North American regions (Ontario, the Maritimes, and the states of Vermont, Maine, New York, and New Hampshire).


Links/Resources

Market Gardener Institute:  https://themarketgardener.com/ 

Masterclass:  https://themarketgardener.com/courses/the-market-gardener-masterclass/ 

Newsletter:  https://themarketgardener.com/newsletter

Blog:  https://themarketgardener.com/blog 

Books: https://themarketgardener.com/books

Growers & Co: https://growers.co/

Heirloom: https://heirloom.ag/

The Old Mill: https://www.espaceoldmill.com/en/


Follow Us
Website: http://themarketgardener.com

Facebook: http://facebook.com/marketgardenerinstitute 

Instagram: http://instagram.com/themarketgardeners 


Guest Social Media

Jeff Tkach (Rodale Institute):

Website: https://rodaleinstitute.org/

Twitter (X): https://twitter.com/rodaleinstitute/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/rodaleinstitute/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rodaleinstitute/channel/

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/rodaleinstitute/

Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/rodaleinstitute/ 

JM:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeanmartinfortier

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeanmartinfortier 

07 Nov 202416: Starting A Profitable Small Farm From Scratch | Luke Sheldrick - Terramor Farm01:54:26

This week we chat with Luke Sheldrick from Terramor Farm about his journey in building a thriving market garden. We tackle the challenges of parenting while starting a farm, explore the crucial role of professionalism and strategic planning in running a successful farm business, and uncover how Luke supplies over 20 restaurants with his fresh produce. We also dive into Luke’s new online course, The Crop Plan Accelerator, which will teach you how to master the essential skill of crop planning for a profitable farming venture.


Succession Crop Planning Cheat Sheet!


Online Course - The Crop Plan Accelerator


PLEASE make sure to subscribe to the podcast, download our episodes, and rate them! Your support means the world to us. Thank you!


Timestamps

[2:23] Starting the farm journey

[5:07] Farm setup and expansion

[11:05] Canadian Agricultural Loans Act

[17:17] Farm growth and scaling

[21:03] Crop selection strategy

[34:10] Importance of professionalism on the farm

[36:20] Delegation and team management

[40:20] Hiring and building a strong team

[46:21] SOPs and crop planning

[52:07] Working with Heirloom crop planning app

[1:14:06] Selling to restaurants

[1:28:00] Future of small-scale farming

[1:34:46] Rapid-fire Q&A


Sponsors

Tessier

Use promocode MGI10 for 10% off and free shipping on your first purchase for the Eastern North American regions (Ontario, the Maritimes, and the states of Vermont, Maine, New York, and New Hampshire). 


Market Gardener Institute   Limited time offer of $99 USD on our online course Introduction To Organic Farming.

Links/Resources

Market Gardener Institute:  https://themarketgardener.com/ 

Masterclass:  https://themarketgardener.com/courses/the-market-gardener-masterclass/ 

Newsletter:  https://themarketgardener.com/newsletter

Blog:  https://themarketgardener.com/blog 

Books: https://themarketgardener.com/books

Growers & Co: https://growers.co/

Heirloom: https://heirloom.ag/

The Old Mill: https://www.espaceoldmill.com/en/


Follow Us

Website: http://themarketgardener.com 

Facebook: http://facebook.com/marketgardenerinstitute 

Instagram: http://instagram.com/themarketgardeners 


Guest Social Media Links

Luke Sheldrick:

Website: https://terramorfarm.com/ 

IG: instagram.com/terramorfarm 

JM:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeanmartinfortier


Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeanmartinfortier

31 Oct 202415: Pioneer Of The CSA Movement In North America | Scott Chaskey author of Soil and Spirit02:06:47

This week we speak with Scott Chaskey, a farmer, poet, author, and pioneer of the CSA movement. His latest book, Soil and Spirit, explores our connection and kinship with nature through farming and storytelling. In this wide ranging conversation we explore the history of community supported agriculture (CSA) in North America, the spread of CSA’s around the world, land trusts and the concepts of “ownership” and “the commons”, and the many ways in which we are deeply connected with all living things. 


Soil And Spirit by Scott Chaskey http://milkweed.org/book/soil-and-spirit 


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Timestamps

[3:21] Shi-Yan and CSA movement in China

[10:38] Origins of CSA in the US \ Quail Hill Farm

[13:13] Land Trust and CSA relationship

[18:45] NOT owning the farm \ concept of “the commons” in Europe

[27:40] Learning to garden in England

[36:26] The Quail Hill Farm CSA, one of the first in the US

[54:15] Scott’s book Soil And Spirit \ Kinship with nature 

[1:04:48] Hand tools \ BCS history \ Tractors

[1:15:09] Current state of the CSA movement

[1:26:39] The word “peasant”

[1:33:39] Rivers and mountains poetry tradition / Gary Snyder poet

[1:37:13] The Tree by John Fowles

[1:39:10] Finding the Mother Tree by Suzanne Simard \ The Overstory by Richard Powers

[1:46:54] Navajo word Hózhǫ́

[1:49:05] Community questions

[1:53:32] In Paradise by Peter Matthiessen


Sponsors

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Use promocode MGI10 for 10% off and free shipping on your first purchase for the Eastern North American regions (Ontario, the Maritimes, and the states of Vermont, Maine, New York, and New Hampshire). 

New Society Publishing Use code market25 for 25% off all books

https://newsociety.com/?utm_source=The%20Market%20Gardener%20Podcast&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=Sponsorship 

Market Gardener Institute www.themarketgardener.com/introduction  Limited time offer of $99 USD on our online course Introduction To Organic Farming.

Links/Resources

Market Gardener Institute:  https://themarketgardener.com/ 

Masterclass:  https://themarketgardener.com/courses/the-market-gardener-masterclass/ 

Newsletter:  https://themarketgardener.com/newsletter

Blog:  https://themarketgardener.com/blog 

Books: https://themarketgardener.com/books

Growers & Co: https://growers.co/

Heirloom: https://heirloom.ag/

The Old Mill: https://www.espaceoldmill.com/en/


Follow Us

Website: http://themarketgardener.com 

Facebook: http://facebook.com/marketgardenerinstitute 

Instagram: http://instagram.com/themarketgardeners 


Guest Social Media Links

Scott Chaskey:

Website: https://www.scottchaskey.com/ 

IG: https://www.instagram.com/scottchaskey


JM:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeanmartinfortier

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeanmartinfortier 

08 Apr 2024Welcome to The Market Gardener Podcast with JM Fortier — Season 100:01:05

Welcome to The Market Gardener Podcast, your gateway to the vibrant world of organic small-scale farming. JM Fortier and Chris Moran explore the big ideas, challenges, and solutions that shape our food system. Join us and the leading voices in sustainable agriculture as we dive into insightful conversations that empower, educate, and inspire action.

06 Feb 202526: Seed Farming & Growing Your Own Seeds With Master Grower | Dan Brisebois01:42:19

This week we chat with Dan Brisebois from Tourne-Sol Farm about the importance of seed saving for market gardeners. Dan shares his journey from agricultural engineering to co-founding a thriving worker co-op farm that balances vegetable production with a successful seed business. We explore the practicalities of growing your own seeds, debunk myths about cross-pollination, and discuss how seed saving can boost resilience and profitability. Dan also highlights the benefits of cooperative farming for work-life balance and introduces his new book, The Seed Farmer, a hands-on guide to seed production.


The Seed Farmer by Dan Brisebois. Get the book and start growing and saving your own seeds this farming season!


PLEASE make sure to subscribe to the podcast, download our episodes, and rate them! Your support means the world to us. Thank you!


Sponsors

Tessier

Use promo code MGI10 for 10% off and free shipping on your first purchase.

Applicable for the Eastern North American regions (Ontario, the Maritimes, and the states of Vermont, Maine, New York, and New Hampshire). 

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New Society Publishing

Use code market25 for 25% off all books.


Heirloom 

Limited time offer of 20% off yearly subscription and use promo code PODCAST to get an extra month of free trial.


Market Gardener Institute

Limited time offer of $99 USD on our online course Introduction To Organic Farming.

www.themarketgardener.com/introduction 


Links/Resources

Market Gardener Institute:  https://themarketgardener.com/ 

Masterclass:  https://themarketgardener.com/courses/the-market-gardener-masterclass/ 

Newsletter:  https://themarketgardener.com/newsletter

Blog:  https://themarketgardener.com/blog 

Books: https://themarketgardener.com/books

Growers & Co: https://growers.co/

Heirloom: https://heirloom.ag/

The Old Mill: https://www.espaceoldmill.com/en/


Follow Us

Website: http://themarketgardener.com 

Facebook: http://facebook.com/marketgardenerinstitute 

Instagram: http://instagram.com/themarketgardeners  


Guest Social Media Links

Dan:

Website: https://danbrisebois.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danbrisebois.farm

Tourne-Sol Farm & Seed Company: https://fermetournesol.qc.ca 


JM:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeanmartinfortier

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeanmartinfortier 


Timestamps

[2:21] Dan’s journey into farming and how he co-founded Tourne-Sol Farm.

[5:56] Starting a cooperative farm: Challenges and lessons learned.

[10:42] Is a fully self-sufficient seed farm realistic or just a dream?

[15:14] Open-pollinated vs. hybrid seeds: Understanding the differences.

[20:07] Managing cross-pollination anxiety and best practices.

[25:32] Why market gardeners should consider growing at least some of their own seed.

[30:45] The profitability of seed crops compared to vegetable crops.

[35:18] Growing seed in different climates: Adapting to humidity and regional challenges.

[40:04] Using greenhouses for seed production and improving quality.

[45:39] How market gardeners can integrate seed saving without disrupting production.

[50:51] The cooperative structure of Tourne-Sol Farm and its long-term success.

[55:20] Holistic management and work-life balance in a co-op farm.

[1:00:12] The realities of running a seed business: Marketing, sales, and logistics.

[1:05:46] Dan’s book The Seed Farmer: Why it’s a must-read for growers.

[1:10:28] The moment Dan realized he wanted to be a farmer.

[1:15:14] Reflections on the future of seed sovereignty and resilient farming.

[1:30:00] Rapid fire Q&A, Wheel Of Time novel series by Robert Jordan


14 Nov 202417: Leaving The City To Find Health & Happiness In Organic Farming | Palisa Anderson02:09:10

This week we chat with Palisa Anderson, organic farmer, author, and owner of Chat Thai restaurant in Australia. She shares her journey from city life to sustainable farming, driven by family influence and health benefits, and we discuss the challenges of running a closed-loop farm, rewilding efforts, and supplying organic produce to restaurants. The conversation highlights the fulfillment found in homesteading, cooking with fresh ingredients, and reconnecting with nature through sustainable agriculture.

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Timestamps

[1:27] Guest background and early inspirations

[2:18] Becoming a farmer and family background

[4:00] Transition from city life to farm life

[10:06] Influence of health on lifestyle choices

[17:00] The importance of food sourcing and whole foods

[26:36] Environmental impact and rewilding efforts

[34:05] Connection to land and traditional farming methods

[44:08] The restaurant business and starting a farm

[51:16] Transition to organic farming

[1:08:26] Farm description and its unique ecosystem

[1:18:08] Seasonal produce and crop cycles

[1:34:10] Connecting with chefs and restaurant partnerships

[1:45:04] Advocacy for agrarian food and homesteading

[1:53:17] Advice on selling to restaurants

[1:58:56] Rapid-fire questions on books, advice, and culinary memories


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Palisa Anderson:

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www.instagram.com/palisaanderson    

www.instagram.com/boonluckfarmorganics   

www.instagram.com/chatthai_official  

JM:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeanmartinfortier

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeanmartinfortier 


28 Nov 202419: Rethinking Urban Agriculture - Regenerative & Resilient Rooftop Farms | Benjamin Fahrer02:17:31

This week, we speak with Benjamin Fahrer, a permaculture designer and farmer, who combines ecological principles with innovative rooftop farm designs across cities in California.

Benjamin shares how his background in building and permaculture design shaped his vision for creating resilient food systems. We explore the importance of soil health, biodiversity, and regenerative practices in addressing both climate and social challenges. Benjamin highlights the value of fresh, nutrient-dense produce and the potential of urban agriculture to reconnect communities with truly healthy food.

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Timestamps

[03:00] Importance of design in farming.

[04:30] Benjamin’s farming and building roots.

[07:04] Discovering permaculture design.

[10:09] Lessons from pioneers like Bob Cannard.

[12:46] Wendell Berry on perfection and humility.

[20:39] Urban farming challenges and opportunities.

[25:08] Esalen Institute: blending farming and spirituality.

[39:33] Food freshness and nutrient density.

[50:28] Key steps for regenerative ag: Reckoning, restoration, resilience.

[55:08] Tillage and soil health: timing matters.

[1:03:36] Farms as ‘refugia’ in climate change.

[1:09:18] Insights from rooftop farming projects.

[1:26:05] Designing for diversity and nature’s role.

[1:31:04] Soil microbiome and farming practices

[1:50:01] Rapid fire Q&A

[1:50:26] The Tao Of Leadership by John Heider & Tao Te Ching by Lao Tzu


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Benjamin:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/benjaminfahrer 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/farmtheroof Websites: 

https://www.topleaffarms.com/ 

https://regenorganic.org/ 

JM:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeanmartinfortier

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeanmartinfortier 


05 Dec 202420: What If Vegetables Were As Cool As Wine? Lessons From Wine Culture | Myrtha Zierock02:03:12

In this episode, we explore the connection between natural wine and terroir-focused vegetables with our guest, Myrtha Zierock, a biodynamic vineyard manager turned small-scale vegetable farmer. Myrtha shares her journey of integrating diversified farming into a wine estate, emphasizing soil health, biodiversity, and the artistry of farming. Discover how vegetables can be celebrated with the same prestige as wine through concepts like tastings and storytelling. We also delve into the challenges of sustainable farming and the importance of embracing beauty and culture in agriculture.

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Timestamps

[1:45] Introducing Myrtha

[4:05] Imagining farm produce as celebrated as wine

[8:00] A veggie tasting inspired by wine culture

[12:00] The concept of veggie sommeliers

[17:00] Vegetable tourism and experiences around farms

[25:00] Challenges of selling high-quality produce

[31:00] Markets, food co-ops, and consumer access to fresh produce

[43:00] Making vegetables cool and celebrated like wine

[53:00] Historical practices in winemaking and farming integration

[1:04:00] Biodynamic principles at the wine estate

[1:15:00] Artisanal versus natural wine

[1:24:00] Personal journey into farming and veggie.

[1:31:00] The case for radicchio: “Winter’s colorful crunch”

[1:40:00] Challenges facing small farms in Europe

[1:43:12] Sense of Wonder by Rachel Carson

[1:43:14] Rapid-fire Q&A


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Blog:  https://themarketgardener.com/blog 

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The Old Mill: https://www.espaceoldmill.com/en/


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Foradori: https://www.agricolaforadori.com/en/

Culinary Breeding Network: https://www.culinarybreedingnetwork.com/

Instagram: @agricolaforadori @myrthazierock https://www.instagram.com/agricolaforadori/

https://www.instagram.com/myrthazierock/


JM:

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Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeanmartinfortier 


20 Jun 20249: Slow Tools Pioneer And Veteran Organic Farmer | Rob Rock02:01:22

In this episode we chat with Rob Rock of Pitchfork Farm in Vermont. Rob has been organic farming since 2002 and has been an innovator in the field of "slow tools", tools made for human scale, ecological farming. In this wide ranging conversation we dive deep into topics such as the role of technology in small-scale farming, community building and the importance of local business, the future of small farms amidst climate change, and how we all need to take part in designing the future we want.

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Timestamps

[2:36] Importance of farmer gatherings and meeting other farmers

[6:36] Designing and creating tools for small farms

[8:34] Farm flooding, climate change, future of ag in Vermont

[22:55] Why do we need small farms?

[30:22] Pitchfork farm, importance of crew relationships, community developing from the farm

[42:12] Farm relationship with chefs and restaurants

[48:31] Importance of "supporting cast" in the small farm movement

[55:43] Slow Tools, becoming a tool inventor, future of tech in slow tools, AI

[1:31:01] Where is small-scale farming going as a movement?

[1:35:09] Will the future be "solar punk" ?

[1:41:39] The One Straw Revolution by Masanobu Fukuoka, farming in Japan

[1:48:31] Learn other skills! Take part in designing the future


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Rob:

IG: https://www.instagram.com/real_rob_rock/

Farm IG: https://www.instagram.com/pitchforkfarm/

Tool design IG: https://www.instagram.com/upstream_ag/

Farm Website: https://www.pitchforkfarmvt.com/ 

JM:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeanmartinfortier

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeanmartinfortier 

20 Feb 202528: $380k On 1.5 Acres Of Flowers! Meet The Woman Revolutionizing Flower Farming | Chloé Roy Floramama01:53:53

In this episode, we sit down withChloé Roy, seasoned flower farmer, teacher at the Market Gardener Institute, and author of a new book on flower farming. She shares her journey from vegetable farming to building Floramama, a thriving flower farm, and the lessons learned along the way. Chloé discusses the business side of flower farming and sheds light on the hidden environmental and ethical costs of conventional flowers and why local flower farms are part of a growing movement.

Chloé also reflects on scaling back production, prioritizing work-life balance, and her dream of documenting a world tour of flower farms. Whether you're a market gardener or a flower enthusiast, this episode is full of insights to help you grow flowers more profitably and sustainably.

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Timestamps

[06:40] The hidden costs of the conventional flower industry and why local flowers matter

[12:12] The rise of the small flower farm movement

[18:51] Applying bio-intensive market gardening to flower farming

[27:15] Challenges in growing Lisianthus and Ranunculus – Trial, error, and success

[32:40] Pricing flowers correctly and educating customers on their value

[39:24] Market strategies – Selling at farmers' markets, CSAs, and to florists

[45:08] Scaling up to a $380K farm operation – Managing a team and business growth

[51:22] Scaling back – Shifting focus to seed and bulb production

[56:10] Chloé’s dream – A world tour documenting flower farms

[1:10:54] Lessons in business planning and work-life balance

[1:24:19] Advice for new flower farmers[1:41:07] Rapid fire Q&A


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Masterclass:  https://themarketgardener.com/courses/the-market-gardener-masterclass/ 

Newsletter:  https://themarketgardener.com/newsletter

Blog:  https://themarketgardener.com/blog 

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Floramama:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/floramamafermeflorale 

Website: https://www.floramama.ca/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/floramama 


JM:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeanmartinfortier
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeanmartinfortier

21 Nov 202418: Creating Community Through Farming, Food, & Nature | Alex Meizlish Ecolibrium Farms01:59:36

This week, we sit down with Alex Meizlish of Ecolibrium Farm, a market gardener from Seattle with a passion for building community through food. Alex shares his journey from studying science in university to teaching environmental education in the Pacific Northwest, and finally to becoming a small-scale farmer. 

We explore his experiences working with chefs, the challenges of creating a resilient organic farm, and his vision for connecting people to their food through memorable culinary experiences. The conversation touches on the importance of community, the artistry of sustainable farming, and the fulfillment of reconnecting with nature.


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Timestamps

[3:00] Discussion on growing food, personal reflections on childhood food culture.

[6:05] Reflections on American food culture vs. international food cultures.

[8:22] The emotional significance of food and family gatherings.

[15:00] Journey from childhood gardening to farming.

[25:17] Transition from outdoor education to farming and environmental awareness.

[40:10] Reflections on building food culture through farming and culinary experiences.

[57:20] Conversations on the culinary arts, notable food experiences.

[1:03:15] Selling to chefs, discussing farm and restaurant collaborations.

[1:30:00] Community, connection, and the impact of farming gatherings.

[1:36:53] Rapid fire Q&A


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Links/Resources

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Masterclass:  https://themarketgardener.com/courses/the-market-gardener-masterclass/ 

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Blog:  https://themarketgardener.com/blog 

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Guest Social Media Links

Alex Meizlish:

Website: https://www.ecolibriumfarms.com/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ecolibriumfarms/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ecolibriumfarms/ 

JM:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeanmartinfortier

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeanmartinfortier 


23 Jan 202524: From Tech Entrepreneur To Suburban Flower Farmer | Akos Asare02:00:16

In this episode, we sit down with Akos Asare from Re.Planted Farm & Floral Studio, who shares her inspiring journey from running a custom wig business to becoming a suburban flower farmer. Akos reveals how the COVID-19 pandemic prompted her to pivot and embrace farming as a response to global supply chain challenges and her quest for deeper fulfillment.

We discuss the challenges of transitioning into farming without an agricultural background, the importance of following your intuition, and the value of community connections in building a sustainable urban farm. Akos also highlights the innovative ways she has maximized her small plot of land, including her creative crop planning techniques and her focus on flowers over vegetables.

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Timestamps

[0:12] Realizing the impact of small communal actions

[1:55] Introduction and masterclass announcement

[4:16] The journey from wig business to farming

[7:42] Transitioning careers: lessons from Dragons’ Den

[12:07] Life as a military family and adapting to change

[18:00] The concept of "Replanted Farm" and its meaning

[24:10] Influences from YouTube and market gardening pioneers

[31:25] Soil care and no-dig gardening methods

[40:00] Building community through farming collaborations

[47:05] Challenges and benefits of urban farming

[52:40] Raising children with a connection to nature

[1:00:40] The importance of detailed crop planning

[1:11:00] Learning to farm: embracing resources and community

[1:18:35] Overcoming internal challenges in farming

[1:26:00] Urban farming as a model for future food systems

[1:36:15] The importance of physical community presence over social media

[1:41:44] Rapid Fire Q&A


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Guest Social Media Links

Akos:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/re.plantedfarm 

Website: https://www.replantedfarm.ca/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/re.PlantedFarm Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/replantedfarm/ 

JM:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeanmartinfortier

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeanmartinfortier 

12 Dec 202421: Farming Lessons From Around The World With Master Market Gardener | Jodi Roebuck02:07:33

In this episode, we dive into the world of market gardening with Jodi Roebuck, a globally inspired farmer from New Zealand. Jodi shares his journey from surfing on volcanic coastlines to building a thriving farm from compact subsoil, emphasizing soil health, composting, and efficient farming techniques. Drawing on lessons from traveling the world and visiting diverse farms, he highlights the value of learning through hands-on experience and cross-disciplinary inspiration. We discuss the principles of bio-intensive farming, lean systems, and the art of balancing productivity with sustainability. This conversation explores the resilience, innovation, and passion it takes to create a farm that’s not just a livelihood but a meaningful connection to the land and community.

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Timestamps

[1:48] Turning volcanic subsoil into thriving farmland.

[5:33] Surfing as a metaphor for farming: Observation and timing.

[10:04] Building resilience through composting and soil health.

[15:27] The importance of traveling and learning from other farms.

[20:12] Lessons in bio-intensive farming and managing weed pressure.

[25:05] Lean systems: Eliminating waste and maximizing efficiency.

[33:14] Transitioning from seed production to market gardening.

[40:08] Year-round growing: Challenges and strategies for winter crops.

[50:22] Creating strong community connections through local markets.

[1:04:18] Long-term investments and scaling sustainably.

[1:15:42] The future of small-scale farming and expanding potential.

[1:24:33] Family, fitness, and finding balance in farm life.

[1:30:12] Designing farms for efficiency and reduced labor.

[1:40:45] Reflections on the global movement for sustainable farming.

[1:50:12] Rapid-fire Q&A and final thoughts on farming inspiration.


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Newsletter:  https://themarketgardener.com/newsletter

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Guest Social Media Links

Jodi:

Website: https://www.roebuckfarm.com/ 

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@jodiroebuckofroebuckfarm2967

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jodiroebuck

JM:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeanmartinfortier

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeanmartinfortier 


09 Jan 202522: Organic vs Regenerative vs Small-Scale Agriculture – What's The Difference? | JM Fortier00:26:34

In this solo episode, Jean-Martin Fortier dives into the evolving landscape of sustainable farming, exploring the differences and connections between organic, regenerative, and small-scale agriculture. He highlights the importance of maintaining organic certification to ensure transparency and accountability while addressing concerns about greenwashing in the regenerative movement. JM emphasizes the need for localized, decentralized farming systems rooted in healthy soils and human-scale operations, advocating for unity within the movement to combat the challenges posed by industrialized agriculture. 

If this episode inspires you to rethink the possibilities of small-scale farming, we invite you to take it a step further. From January 14 to 16, join our FREE and LIVE workshop Money Talks where we’ll dive into the numbers behind real farms. This practical and inspiring event will show how small farms can be both a solution and a profitable path forward.

Register here: https://themarketgardener.easywebinar.live/event-registration-jan-2025

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Timestamps

[6:40] Evolution of organic farming: From pioneers to present day

[10:09] Regenerative agriculture: The new buzzword

[13:13] Greenwashing concerns: Loosely defined standards

[15:29] Organic certification: Why it still matters

[16:49] Scale in agriculture: Localized versus industrialized

[20:24] Soil and scale: Core to sustainable farming

[22:01] Movement clarity: Avoiding manipulation and staying united

[23:28] Economic impact: Local farms as community drivers

[24:23] Workshop announcement: “Money Talks” free event in January


Sponsors

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JM:

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Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeanmartinfortier 


01 May 20241: Why We're All Going Back To The Land | Chris Moran And JM Fortier01:38:14

In this very first episode of The Market Gardener Podcast hosts JM Fortier and Chris Moran tell their stories and discuss the importance of the small farm movement and how so many people are finding a better and more meaningful life by going back to the land. JM goes into great detail telling his story of how he got into farming and how he developed multiple businesses over the years, always with the mission of helping to multiply small farms around the world. Chris explains his story of discovering farming in his early 20s and the ambitious and chaotic farm project he was a part of in New Jersey, and then how he ended up in Quebec where he now resides making videos with JM and The Market Gardener Institute. 

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Timestamps

[2:44] Introduction

[9:28] JMs travels after university

[9:50] Starting farming in Quebec

[13:36] Starting La Grelinette

[16:57] Writing The Market Gardener

[25:08] Starting FQT farm

[28:23] Creating The Market Gardener Institute

[32:23] Founding Growers & Co

[33:50] Heirloom crop planning software

[38:13] Chris's background story

[38:56] Chris's story starting a farm in NJ

[46:00] Chris's wife visiting his farm for the first time

[49:23] How Chris and JM met and started working together

[52:49] Quote from Living The Good Life

[53:10] Finding meaning through going back to the land

[55:00] The magic of growing things

[56:05] The decline of farming in North America

[58:03] How people farmed in the past

[59:46] Discussing hopes for the podcast (with a name blooper before we decided the podcast name!)

[1:01:52] The importance of these discussions 

[1:04:18] Quote from Charles Eisenstein

[1:06:05] Is our future headed in the wrong direction?

[1:07:22] Are people living on screens too much these days?

[1:08:05] How gardening can change the suburbs

[1:11:04] Connecting people to the land through the Old Mill restaurant

[1:11:40] France's food culture

[1:13:23] Eating together is central to being human

[1:13:47] Importance of chefs in the small farm revolution

[1:14:51] Importance of entrepreneurship and business in the small farm revolution

[1:17:28] What book have you read more than once?

[1:18:44] Incredible french book Le hasard n'existe pas

[1:19:52] Be open to serendipity

[1:20:58] Elizabeth Gilbert's Eat, Pray, Love and Big Magic

[1:21:41] Rick Rubin and creativity

[1:22:32] Finding spirituality through farming

[1:23:01] What advice did you hear when you were young but only appreciated later?

[1:23:46] Ready, shoot, aim

[1:26:09] Thinking long term with business

[1:27:00] You're a spiritual being living a human experience

[1:29:31] Thoughts on AI

[1:36:10] Wrapping up


Links/Resources

Market Gardener Institute:  https://themarketgardener.com/ 

Masterclass:  https://themarketgardener.com/courses/the-market-gardener-masterclass/ 

Newsletter:  https://themarketgardener.com/newsletter

Blog:  https://themarketgardener.com/blog 

Books: https://themarketgardener.com/books

Growers & Co: https://growers.co/

Heirloom: https://heirloom.ag/

The Old Mill: https://www.espaceoldmill.com/en/


Follow Us
Website: http://themarketgardener.com

Facebook: http://facebook.com/marketgardenerinstitute 

Instagram: http://instagram.com/themarketgardeners 


Guest Social Media Links

JM:

https://www.instagram.com/jeanmartinfortier

https://www.facebook.com/jeanmartinfortier

Chris:

https://www.instagram.com/chris_m_moran 



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