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18 Jun 2019 | From Zero to FI in Less Than 2 Years | James and Emily from Rethink the Rat Race | 00:49:23 | |
In today's episode, Cody and Justin are joined by James and Emily from Rethink the Rat Race who have one of the quickest journeys to financial independence you'll ever find.
Living in Huntsville, Alabama they find themselves in one of the best real estate markets in the country for rental properties. They took that opportunity and ran with it.
In 2017 they bought their first rental property and two years later they hit their 11th property and are now ready to retire this summer!
Cody and Justin are both great friends with this duo and this is definitely a can't-miss episode.
So go take a listen, leave that 5-star review and give us some feedback!
Episode Summary
James and Emily both had frugal backgrounds with James especially being on the really low end of the income spectrum
They met at a local community college and James got his college mostly paid for through financial aid
James ended up changing his major 4 times before eventually acquiring an associates degree
Emily wasn’t eligible for financial aid due to her Dad’s income but her parents did pay for her first two years
She ended up being able to pay off the final two years herself so they both graduated debt free
Emily would take a job starting at $60k and James was at $35k per year in Huntsville, Alabama
Even though they were in an affordable area with $95k of incomes, they weren’t saving a dime
They said they were happy with there life but weren’t spending money intentionally but looking back they can see that they’re so much happier with their life now
James was at work one day and someone said they came across a website that had changed their lives which turned out to be Mr. Money Mustache
James immediately went all in and came home adjusting water heaters and laying down all these things they were going to cut from their lives...probably too aggressively he’ll admit
This was 2016 when they discovered this idea of financial independence
They estimate they cut their expenses down to $35k the next year after discovering the topic and have since cut it to closer to $12k
Emily discusses how changing lifestyles can affect friend groups and social connections
After cutting their expenses down as low as they could they looked to accelerate their path even more through real estate investing
We go over their processes in finding properties and getting them ready to rent
You’ll get a taste of James fantastic knack for negotiating
They bought their first property in Summer of 2017 and have since hit 11 properties
Most of these units were had for under $50k and all of them bring in over 1% of the cost back via rent
Example: $50k house that brings in $500 is bringing in 1% every month
All of the homes were bought using traditional mortgages
Now they have enough money cash flowing every month to cover over 2x their expenses
This has accelerated their path so fast that they’re now looking to retire in September
That’s a 2-year path to financial independence!
On top of real estate, they’re also maxing out one 401k and both IRAs
Emily’s family owns a home in Cyprus that they plan on moving into this summer and doing some remodeling.
Emily already has her EU citizenship and James is applying
They’re not 100% sure what long term future looks like but they’ll probably pick up some side hustles in Cyprus to stay busy and travel all over Europe
Key Takeaways
Everyone has advantages: Some people might not realize living in Huntsville, Alabama is a huge advantage for financial independence but James and Emily realized this advantage and maximized it
Leverage is crazy powerful: James and Emily aren't these crazy high-income earners but they now own 11 rental units in 2 years. That's all possible thanks to the leverage you get through mortgages
Not Knowing is Ok: James and Emily don't have the rest of their lives mapped out. But what 28 year old does? | |||
25 Jun 2019 | Is Side Hustling Right for You? (+Sneak Peek into Side Hustle Courses) | 00:49:38 | |
In today’s episode, Cody and Justin are joined by a third co-host! J from FIRE Drill Podcast / Millennial Boss.
The three discuss their experiences with side hustling and also talk about the new Side Hustle Courses that Cody and Julie (J) are launching.
There are also testimonials from several side hustlers who just recently took the course and are starting to earn real money online.
Whether you want to become a digital nomad, build an online empire, or just earn some additional income outside of your day job, we've got you covered.
Join us in this episode and learn why side hustling is right for everyone!
What Are These Side Hustle Courses All About?
Well, there are three separate tracks:
Blogging For Profit - Everything you need to know about how to start a profitable blog from Day 1. The course covers website setup, content creation, monetization, outsourcing, and everything in between.
Etsy Printables - Learn how to open your Etsy shop, create your first listing, optimize your digital products, and market them like a pro in this course. We walk you through everything you need to know step by step.
Freelance Toolkit - Do you want to earn money on your own time in a matter of weeks? Whether you have no existing skills or a few talents, we show you exactly how you can make money freelancing and get paid the most for your time.
Between the three courses, we spent thousands of hours building out the lessons which include 250+ videos, text lectures, worksheets, templates and more!
Here are some of the highlights:
Info-packed modules with text and video lectures
Bonus lessons, free templates, and interviews with industry experts
Weekly assignments and printable lesson plans to keep you on track
Free month in the VIP Facebook group for accountability & community
Advanced modules to take your side hustle to the next level
Key Takeaways
Side Hustling is mutually beneficial: When many people think of "making money online", they envision some scammy internet marketing scheme. However, there are tons of ways you can earn money online where you deliver value to your customer/client and get paid for it.
Not everyone is a natural: You don't have to a Type-A rockstar or creative genius to start a side hustle. Anyone can acquire the skills to make a little bit of income outside of the traditional day job.
Added layer of financial security: Every incremental dollar that you earn with your side hustle brings you one step closer to financial freedom. Even a few hundred dollars a month can go a long way over time.
Call to Action
Determine what side hustle might be right for you and take action. If you need additional inspiration, check out the Gold City Ventures Side Hustle Courses!
Featured Guests
Julie - Co-Founder of the Gold City Venture Side Hustle Courses, Etsy Printables Expert, Host of the FIRE Drill Podcast, and blogger at Millennial Boss.
James Lowery - Co-Founder of Rethink the Rat Race and real estate investor.
Nicole - Owner of The Printable Fairy Etsy Shop.
Nick Monfreda - Aspiring freelancer and golf enthusiast.
Jessie Bui - Owner of Jessie Bui Fitness: Instagram, Facebook, Email.
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02 Jul 2019 | The Best Flippin’ Path to FI | Rob & Melissa from Flea Market Flipper | 00:44:55 | |
In today's episode, Cody and Justin are joined by Rob and Melissa from Flea Market Flipper.
You can just hear the passion jumping out of their voices and it's easy to see why when they show how they make $100k+ working only 25-30 hours a week flipping items.
Throw away assumptions like long hours spent shipping or fixing junk just to make $5. This is a truly impressive system they've built.
They also love educating and are offering all the FI Show listeners a free guide to selling on eBay!
So go take a listen, leave that 5-star review and give us some feedback!
Episode Summary
Rob is the laid back one of the group and Melissa is the one who is the more money focused one
From the start of their relationship they always used flips to earn money
In the beginning, they would just use it for vacations and cars but not employment
Rob saw his parents flipping items and just fell in their tracks
When Rob sees an item he can just quickly research the item on eBay and also give you a ready to use post so you don’t have to do much effort at all
After their third child was born four years ago they turned this to a full-time job
They don’t see any advantages they have to anyone recreating their exact same business
They’ve even started coaching people around the country
The style of flipping they do and coach is revolved around doing a smaller amount of flip with much larger returns instead of focusing on quantity
Commercial equipment is often something that can be had really cheap but sold at a big premium
When you check out their blog and reports you’ll see that they’ll sell and ship anything
The only thing they typically won’t mess with is anything following much below $100 profit
They source most of their items locally through things like Offer up, craigslist, or Facebook marketplace but sell almost exclusively on eBay
Sometimes they’ll do some touch-ups or small fixes but for the most part, they don’t do any work to the items which are different than when you’d flip a house
Rob started flipping out of a convertible mustang but over time he upgraded to storage units, a truck, trailer, etc.
He stresses that you should just stick to what you have until you start making money off the flips
On only 108 sells on eBay they made over $80k for the year which means they don’t have to spend a ton of time shipping items
Then we get into talking about a flip challenge they have going on
We’ve all heard of crazy stories/rumors of someone turning a rubber band into a car but this is real and is well documented
This challenge has them taking an item and turn it into a rental house within a year and they’re on track! It all started with a free chair from the trash
They stress that they try to teach what they can on taxes for these types of sales but note that they differ state to state so check your local laws
They do note that in this business you can see irregular income but they combat this by keeping recurring cost low because they pay for everything in full upfront
They’re currently not focusing on stock market investing because they’re really comfortable with real estate and already have two rental properties and are hoping for 10 over the next 7-10 years
They’re so excited about sharing their skills with everyone through the flipper university and also some free exclusive content for FI Show listeners!
Key Takeaways
Money is Everywhere: Just another reason why quitting a job doesn't mean you can't make money somewhere, somehow if you need to
Imitate then Improve: Rob and Melissa didn't create a new industry. Selling used stuff is as old as they come but they're doing it better than just about anyone and have built an impressive and repeatable process
Family First: It's so awesome seeing Rob and Melissa get their kids involved in the flipping and to see how this style of work allows for so much quality time with their kids instead of locke... | |||
09 Jul 2019 | The Dreamer’s Path to FI | Diego Corzo | 00:45:17 | |
In today's episode, Cody and Justin are joined by Diego Corzo from House Hacking Club.
His story is incredible and highlights why so many view America as the land of opportunity.
Diego didn't even know he was undocumented until he attempts to get a drivers license. He faced a ton of obstacles but never stopped trying.
Some luck and hard work meant he ended up qualifying for the Defense Action on Childhood Arrivals and DREAMER acts.
Now Diego is living a successful life, spreading his story through places like TED talks...and yes paying a healthy sum of taxes.
So go take a listen, leave that 5-star review and give us some feedback!
Episode Summary
Diego's family came to the United States on a VISA but it lapsed and left Diego here undocumented as a child
He didn't even realize it until he started trying to apply for a drivers license and didn't have all the necessary paperwork
He hits more roadblocks when he looks to college
Eventually, he would get into Florida State University
He could make money to help pay for college by building and selling study guides to fellow students or building websites
Things seemed to be going Diego's way until he realized he couldn't actually work for anyone in his current status
Then came the DACA and DREAMER programs under the Obama administration
This gave Diego a chance to work and be as successful as any other kid raised in America
He wasn't satisfied with the status quo though
Diego came across the Book: Rich Dad, Poor Dad and it changed his whole view on life
From then on, he knew his focus was to have assets and make his money work for him and not the other way
This led to the first of many house hacks and his entry into real estate
He actually bought his first home at age 23
After three years he quit his full-time job as a software developer and now owns a plethora of properties
Diego is now a Realtor in Austin, TX and continues to grow his rental property empire
Key Takeaways
Someone has it worse: This one just jumped out at me. I always think about how life was different if I had a better start and then you see people who started so far behind those who we'd consider at the back. But he still succeeded.
Headlines are people: Man, when we see talking heads on TV, regardless of what side you're on, it's so easy to forget that things are complicated and that these are real people who are impacted greatly by the decisions and laws we're considering.
Your message is important: If I was Diego, I'd be terrified to tell my story from worrying about what might happen to my family but he realized he could inspire so many people. It's not even about having a great story. Your story will be more relatable to some person than any other story they could hear. So tell it.
Call to Action
Imagine a young Diego scenario. No one can hire you but you need a job. What skills can take advantage of, what creative money making opportunities are you prepared for in case someone else isn't around to hire you.
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16 Jul 2019 | Becoming a Financial Grownup | Bobbi Rebell | 00:49:22 | |
In today's episode, Cody and Justin are joined by Bobbi Rebell from the Financial Grownup Podcast and author of How to Be a Financial Grownup.
She has a really interesting beginning from the ground floor and working her way up to multiple large media outlets and building a career on camera.
Bobbi eventually saw an opportunity to step away and become her own boss which would end up being both a great financial choice and a great choice for her family.
Come listen to where she finds her inspiration and the tangible steps she took to building both a successful corporate career and a business.
Listen and follow along with the summary below and make sure to check out the links at the bottom of the page.
Episode Summary
Her dad was a Wall Street guy who would give the kids an opportunity to plan out their total expenses for a semester and they would make their request and that'd be there only chance to ask for money. (pretty awesome parenting exercise)
She admits she had a lot of fortunate events and circumstances in her life but she also has had a great work ethic and paid her dues along the way
Bobbi's working career started with working at a bakery, wrapping presents and folding clothes before her unpaid internship at CNBC
She would come in during the middle of the night because people were a lot more likely to allow her to help and actually build a resume
When she graduated college she didn't have any student debt which she credits to her granddad starting the trend of putting money back for her own parents' college
Bobbi actually bought her studio apartment straight out of college at 23 in New York City and would end up flipping a couple of properties which lead to her nicer, larger apartment she owns today in NYC
That first studio was only $90k which she bought during some down years in NY real estate
Her friend actually got a similar apartment for under $70k!
While she was making some big financial moves and making great progress, she wasn't without fault
She bought a $3k chair with a home equity loan but she obviously rebounded
Her career would quickly take off and she attributes it to always doing a little more than is expected and always adding skills
She actually got her CFP from NYU thanks to some of the training her job paid for
During her career, she became close with the likes of Tony Robbins and anchored shows at PBS and Reuters
There were a couple of transitions obviously in that career and she details advice on loyalty to people vs businesses and how to handle transitions
One day on a walk she decided to start a brand and write a book to help young people become financially responsible grown-ups
Through the process, she was transparent with her company about her eventual transition
The transition was a big one as she had three kids and a lot of groundwork to build for her business but she took a thorough approach over a three year period
A big tip she gave us was to see if your company offers buy-outs for your job before you simply quit
After agreeing to a slight delay in leaving, she did get a pretty nice buyout
We then jump into some rituals and habits that keep her motivated and to help avoid burnout with such a high energy personality
After making her transition, she realized that it really wouldn't take that much money on the side to make it a smart decision because of how expensive it was to work and raise children
With this entrepreneur ventures, she doesn't pay for childcare and she can write off a decent amount of things as business expenses
While she felt comfortable that she'd be able to make enough money on the side, she was surprised at what ended up being the most profitable
Her favorite and most profitable part of her work is doing sponsored content for different brands
On top of that, she MCs events, wrote a book, has two podcasts.... and more!
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23 Jul 2019 | Managing Monthly Expenses with Cody & Justin | 00:28:52 | |
In today's episode, Cody and Justin take you on a behind the scenes tour of their monthly budgets.
For some context, Cody is 23 and moving to Boston in September and Justin is 29 living in Boston with his girlfriend. Neither of them has kids.
It's also important to note that despite their low monthly expenses, Justin and Cody do not feel deprived whatsoever. They're both enjoying life to the fullest.
Ready to nerd out on some numbers? Let's dive in.
Housing
Justin - Currently paying $837 per person in Boston for a 2BR apartment.
Cody - Paying $600 to share a room in Boston in a 3BR apartment with three roommates.
Both Justin and Cody do an extensive amount of research before committing to a housing arrangement.
Transportation
Cody - Spends approximately $225 per month for gas and maintenance on his paid-off Nissan Frontier.
Justin - A whopping $110 per month despite owning both a car and a truck... in a big city!
The absence of a car payment or lease drastically reduces the cost of transportation each month.
Food
Justin - Spends $60 per month on groceries and ~$100 on all other food-related items (including alcohol) for a total of $160.
Cody - Grocery expenses are typically around $110 and eating out / alcohol come in at about $190 for a total of $300.
Justin and Cody are able to keep their food costs down by buying only primarily on-sale lean meat and vegetables and cooking 90%+ of the time.
Entertainment/Travel
Cody - Total monthly expenditure is around $400 per month.
Justin - Spends about $300 per month in this category.
Both Cody and Justin agree that experiences are 10x more valuable than material possessions. That's why they allocate a fairly large portion of their budget toward this category!
They also take advantage of credit card rewards to gain free flights and airport perks.
Miscellaneous
Although it was hard to pin down exact numbers, Justin and Cody do have a miscellaneous category.
Basically, anything that doesn't fit into the four categories above makes it into this one.
Recently, Cody and Justin have started to focus more on quality instead of just buying the cheapest option possible.
Key Takeaways
Keep the big expenses low: Since Cody and Justin keep housing, transportation, and food low, they have a lot more flexibility when it comes to the fun categories (a.k.a. entertainment and miscellaneous)
Do the extra research: One of the reasons why Justin and Cody are able to keep their monthly expenses low is because they are willing to put in a little bit of extra work to find a deal.
Income Matters: Both hosts understand that saving isn't everything. If you're having trouble saving because your income is simply too low, consider starting a side hustle or figuring out ways to move up in your current role.
Calls to Action
Justin: Do you remember what you ate for lunch last Tuesday? Probably not. Figure out what other "Tuesday lunches" you have in your life and cut those out as much as possible.
Cody: Lifestyle inflation is one of the sneakiest enemies of financial independence. Start experimenting for a week (or more) at a time and cut different things out of your budget. If you don't miss it, don't add it back in!
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30 Jul 2019 | Achieving Early Retirement through Airbnb | Zeona McIntyre | 00:49:28 | |
In today's episode, Cody and Justin are joined by Zeona McIntyre who is an absolute boss with Air BnB rentals.
Her story starts by getting a degree she'd never use and $50k in student debt.
Fast forward to 2011 and a roommates exit opened her eyes to the possibility of Air BnB.
Today she owns six homes and manages over 20 more that are all making huge profits on Air BnB.
Listen and follow along with the summary below and make sure to check out the links at the bottom of the page.
Episode Summary
She grew up in a family that wasn’t good with money and included moments on food stamps
Finance was always an interest to her and she started digging deeper into studying it around 18
She actually grew up in Maui
There was always a deep interest with her in entrepreneurship and hustling
Her dad didn’t believe in college but she ended up going even though she admits she didn’t use her degree and a lot of people go into debt for it with no benefit
When she graduated she came out with $50k in debt after getting a fashion marketing associates degree in Los Angeles
She realized her degree was pointing her towards a corporate environment that wasn’t appealing to her
After college she bounced around fun jobs like being a tour guide
She was able to save money even with these fun jobs
With the tour guide jobs, they were living on the road so she didn’t have housing costs
During this time she was trying to pay student debt but only the minimum
After 10 years she realized she had barely lowered her student debt at all because of interest
She moved to Boulder in 2011 to become a massage therapist and discovered Air BnB
Because she already had experience with Couch Surfing, it felt comfortable to her
She had a two bedroom apartment she was renting but had furnished it all herself
After a roommate left, she decided to just Air BnB out the extra room
It wasn’t steadily rented, but enough to cover the rent
After it started being successful, she rented another apartment
Yes, she was renting two, two bedroom apartments for Air BnB!
At a point she started cleaning the places herself which allowed her to quit her $12/hour job
We talk about how to give your Air BnB a unique touch to make it more desirable
She feels like Air BnB is way more interesting and profitable than long term rentals
Her first real introduction to financial independence also came in 2011 via Mr. Money Mustache
She was 25 and wanted to retire by 30
When she started the focus was just on the large nest egg
It eventually pivoted to a cash flow mindset when she saw the success of Air BnB
She became cash flow FI at age 28 and began buying homes
Now she owns 6 homes and manages over 20 properties at age 33
It’s important to remember that anyone can try this
All you need is a couch or a backyard with a tent to get started
Remember though things like towels and sheets!
Then we talk about managing other people’s Air BnB vs posting your own place
Rates range from 20-40% (Much higher than long term rentals)
Key Takeaways
Weird Works: Who would ever think to rent a second apartment just to put on Air BnB? It sounds weird but it's high profit and low risk!
Build Habits: Zeona didn't have much money at first but she started good habits even if it was just $50. That allowed her to handle her money when she actually had a lot of excess coming in.
Mix Business and Pleasure: Zeona has found a way to travel and support her business. By owning Air BnB's across the country, she can visit them to check up and get a vacation at the same time.
Call to Action
Look around your house or maybe a family members house and if you have a room or space that goes unused, pop it on Air BnB. Just get started!
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06 Aug 2019 | Spending Money Where it Matters | Chris Mamula | 00:48:10 | |
In today's episode, Cody and Justin are joined by Chris Mamula who is about to release his new Choose FI book.
Chris has a great and relatable story that we really think everyone could follow.
His story was also met with a lot of the same mental struggles we all face on this journey.
Chris and his family are now financially independent in Utah.
Listen and follow along with the summary below and make sure to check out the links at the bottom of the page.
Episode Summary
Chris and his wife have always been financially aware
He was able to get through college debt-free
His wife started working a year prior to him but she was carrying $20k in student debt
Chris got his masters in physical therapy while his wife focused on math and operations research
When they graduated Chris and his wife were both making in the mid 30k range
They eventually got their income up to the 80-90k range each
From the start, they were saving ~50% of their income
Making a move to a rural city would eventually really increase their income
Interesting note that medical professionals can often earn more in small markets
Chris did end up utilizing a financial advisor that was really taking advantage of him with fees
They would go on to pay their house off in seven years and really start investing
In 2012 they discovered they were going to have a child after not thinking it was possible
Chris admits that he was a touch depressed at the idea of having a child
It just seemed like all their financial plans were going to fall apart
But just a few months later, he was all in after seeing that sonogram
Around this time he discovers FIRE and starts really getting smart on investing
He decided to start handling his own investments and how to restructure his $400k nest egg
You can check out Chris’ full portfolio at his blog Can I Retire Yet
That strategy has obviously worked as they got to retire a year ago
Then Chris discusses how they would decide where to live in retirement
They ended up landing at Ogden, Utah (skiing was big criteria)
In reality, his wife was offered a remote job that allowed them to keep insurance with few hours and Chris got a book idea
Chris had no idea what writing a book would entail but knew he wanted to do a series of interviews
Being able to tie all those chapters into a cohesive story turned out to be a challenge
The biggest thing he learned in the writing process was that designing a life you want is much more important than actually retiring
He also calls out what a difference it can make to turn saving money into a fun competition versus it feeling like a chore
Chris isn’t sure he’ll ever actually stop putting in work but certainly isn’t worried about pay
Then we transition the discussion on how Chris is raising his young child in regards to money and educational path
Key Takeaways
Saving fixes all: They didn't make a ton of money, they got cheated by advisors, they had a kid...but they retired early
Mental is tougher than money: Several examples were covered about psychology and those mental hurdles are so much tougher than an equation
Relief not retired: The main focus should be on building a life you love not simply retiring because that's where the happiness really comes from
Call to Action
Chris has such a love for the outdoors and so do we. This week we just want you to lower the stress and back away from the computer and get outside.
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13 Aug 2019 | Engineering Your Early Retirement | Kim from The Frugal Engineers | 00:53:47 | |
In today's episode, Cody and Justin are joined by Kim from The Frugal Engineers.
Kim started nowhere near engineering and with no financial goals.
A math professor and an intro to Dave Ramsey would turn her life and career choice completely around.
Kim would eventually build a side hustle that would become her full-time job.
That side hustle brought in more money than she ever made in traditional employment, allowed her to stay at home with her child, and even let her husband reduce to part-time work.
Now both Kim and her husband are self-employed and working for joy instead of stressing about finances.
Listen and follow along with the summary below and make sure to check out the links at the bottom of the page.
Episode Summary
Kim took a gap year after her junior year of college to work at Disney world
She had been living off scholarships and didn’t really have to worry about income
During that gap year, the scholarships ended
She bought a car and racked up $10k in credit card debt
The main culprit was a guy she was dating who was already in a corporate job
She kept trying to keep up with his spending along with the travel and eating out
Kim ended up graduating with an engineering degree
Engineering wasn’t on her radar until a math professor pushed her that way
Her financial turnaround came after a friend introduced her to Dave Ramsey
While she always understood the math she didn’t have a grasp on the psychological side
From there she made a plan that included never taking on debt again
In grad school, she’d meet her future husband who took her on a date to dollar tree
Kim made a vow to pay off all her debt before they would get married
It was on their debt payoff celebration that he proposed
Then we dig into how she graduated from just Dave Ramsey teachings
Now that she’s comfortable with credit cards, she fully embraces travel rewards
Fast forward and they have a child and are just discovering the FIRE community
After some quick math, they realized at age 29 they were only 6 years from retirement
That plan was if nothing changed but Kim wanted to work from home
Kim dual-hatted a side hustle with her job
She built that up so much that she now works from home and reduce childcare costs
After just two years she was making much more than her traditional work
Inspired by Kim’s transition her husband started working for himself as a consultant
Kim’s side job was hard to juggle with being a new mom at first
After calculating things, they realized it was more profitable for her husband to go part-time and free up time for her and greatly increased their work-life balance
Once they were completely location-agnostic they decided to leave Florida
They tried Oregon for a while but it was too expensive
Starting this year they started the journey of finding a place to put down roots
They tried Tennessee, Alaska, Nevada but ultimately settled on Wyoming
Wyoming has great tax benefits and access to skiing for their daughter
Now the next thing they needed to tackle health insurance
They tried standard heathlcare.gov plan with a high deductible
Then they tried a health share program through Liberty
These plans are interesting because they can be more selective of who they cover
It was $450 per month for a family of three
Kim would have to pay upfront for the bills and then file for reimbursement
They struggled with timelines on reimbursement and lack of understanding from doctors
After 6 months they went back to a standard plan that was over $900 per month
Currently, they’re on a “short-term” health insurance plan
It’s only $230 per month but comes with a high deductible and no HSA
Then we shift to discussing the detailed steps of finding your FIRE home
They made spreadsheets that would mimic their spending in a specific city
They visited playgrounds, realtors, and the Wal-Mart Test
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20 Aug 2019 | Financial Independence in the Military | Military Dollar | 00:55:40 | |
In today's episode, Cody and Justin are joined by the magnificent Military Dollar.
Justin really had a blast getting to vent the military money misunderstandings with someone who could relate.
Everything gets covered here. Military housing, insurance, investing and of course retirement.
Listen and follow along with the summary below and make sure to check out the links at the bottom of the page.
Episode Summary
When she was in college she didn't have a lot of money
Her parents were also draining on her finances some in college
It was clear to her that she needed to get her finances together and started tackling finance books
She ended up commissioning as an Air Force officer through the ROTC program
She also got a scholarship but because it was a private school, it didn't cover everything
When she graduated she had $20k in student debt, credit card debt and a car payment
Both of her parents are entrepreneurs but aren't very good with money
Upon graduation she got a new car and had a total of $42k in debt
After four years in the military she was debt free
Her degree was in political science but she ended up in a very different career field
Now she's making great headway towards financial independence
She loves her job and never wants to work for pay after she retires
Then we discuss the flaw with just choosing a job you love
We then discuss why it can be beneficial to live in a high cost of living city
Mil dollar then starts breaking down exactly what she makes in the Air Force
Justin and Mil dollar then break down common money mistakes military make
The big ones include housing and comparing military to civilian pay
Then we unravel the military 401k also known as the Thrift Savings Plan (TSP)
This includes some big changes coming to the TSP this year!
Now the moment you've been waiting for...retirement
We go over both the traditional retirement and the new blended retirement system
Military Dollar finished the episode with how she plans to travel the world with free flights in retirement
Key Takeaways
Military is a really solid FI path: Unfortunately people think the military is something people do because they didn't have any options. In reality it's full of some of the smartest people you'll ever meet and certainly one of the most sure fire ways to retire between 38-43.
People will find an excuse: Military members often spend all of there housing allowance on a house even if they could get by just find spending a third. The mentality doesn't make any sense but it's an easy excuse for sure.
FI lifestyle possibilities are endless: During the wild card question, Mil Dollar talks about this magical retirement community. That's the beauty is you can do whatever you want and there's no reason to live a cookie cutter life you don't want.
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27 Aug 2019 | Traveling the World Indefinitely | Kristy & Bryce from Millennial Revolution | 00:59:46 | |
In today's episode, Cody and Justin are joined by the incredible duo of Kristy and Bryce from Millennial Revolution.
Their story is so inspiring. They start at the most traditional lifestyle route of a professional career and seeking homeownership. Then one day they realize the housing costs are simply out of control and they'd rather retire instead.
Three years later they quit their jobs and have been traveling year-round since then. They're keeping busy though with projects like their new book Quit Like a Millionaire.
This will certainly be one of the most entertaining episodes we've had to date so go listen now.
Listen and follow along with the summary below and make sure to check out the links at the bottom of the page.
Episode Summary
Bryce wasn’t focused on saving money in college...beer took priority
When they graduated they were just solely focused on saving for a home
They lived in a modest apartment while chasing a home
The house prices kept outpacing the housing
Before they could find a home, they realized they’d saved $500k
Then Bryce came up with the idea to ditch the house idea and retire instead
Kristy saw the value in this after seeing a coworker collapse from stress
They hit a million at the age of 31
We then dig into how they actually got the $500k in the first place
Kristy credits the scarcity mindset she got from being raised in poverty in China
They moved to a cheaper apartment, used public transportation, and reigned in their eating out splurges
They weren’t naturally frugal at the start with Bryce dropping hundreds on booze and Kristy collecting high-end purses.
Kristy even got into unboxing videos for these purses
Bryce then starts discussing the differences between how he and Kristy see things
Kristy is much better at being frugal but was much less comfortable getting started with investing
They really fill in each other's gaps to make the perfect financial independence duo
Kristy said what helped get comfortable with investing was understanding how much she'd lose to inflation in savings accounts
Then Bryce starts covering their investment strategy and how they navigated the 2008 recession
That strategy is a big cornerstone of their book which seeks to show how to handle every rough situation you may encounter
Kristy covers how they started out with salaries in the $60k range but would get several raises along the way
Their savings rates began around 50% and would get up to 72% before retiring
Kristy then covers how to use a number centered approach to choosing your major in college
Bryce and Kristy then start covering all the work they're doing now in retirement with the book and blog
They credit being in a position where the focus didn't need to be money as their key to side hustle success
Kristy then starts telling the backstory to how her video about millennials and money went viral
At this point, we shift gears to understanding how they continue to travel the world year-round for under $40k per year
They prefer Air BnB over a hotel for the kitchen and laundry access
Then they discuss how they build a schedule when constantly traveling and some of the bumps to expect along the way
Currently, they're staying in a location a little over a month but plan to start rotating between locations quarterly
Those three-month stints will allow them to build real lasting relationships
Key Takeaways
Create your own trend: It was amazing to see them realize that they didn't just have to follow the path everyone else was following. Why buy a house if that house was going to anchor you to a job for decades.
Handling the worst: Too often we only tell success stories and don't give enough focus on preparing for non-ideal scenarios. Kristy and Bryce nail this topic.
Millennials are misunderstood: Millennials aren't pampered or lazy. They just consistently choose to follow lifestyles that their pa... | |||
03 Sep 2019 | The Low Income Path to FI | Chad Methner | 00:32:57 | |
In today's episode, Cody and Justin are joined by Chad Methner from Little Brother Life Coach.
Chad really wants to encourage people how to reach FI even if they're nowhere near a six-figure salary.
We discuss his battles during the recession, finding himself in a job he hated, and how he came through it all. You'll catch Chad now helping others through coaching and setting up local meetups.
It's a unique angle so go listen and follow along with the summary below and make sure to check out the links at the bottom of the page.
Episode Summary
Chad first discovered financial importance from a Dave Ramsey book he stumbled across
The parts about debt pay off really hit Chad
He's still $20k in debt from college
After high school, he just did some manual labor while he tried to figure out what to do for college
He got half off tuition thanks to his dad's job at Ohio State
After college, he couldn't land a job because it was 2009 and the recession was in full swing
He didn't rack up any debt from college until he got his masters in 2015
While the job he had did some tuition reimbursement, it still cost him $25k in debt
That along with a car and some other loans left him with over $40k worth of debt
He continues at this job making under $11 per hour
After he got his masters he went to try and get a promotion
Unfortunately, they didn't give him any options
After six years there he had maxed out at $13.25 an hour and decided to leave
He landed a new job and almost doubled his income to just under $50k and in a role where he was more comfortable
We asked why he staid at that first job so long unhappy and underpaid
For Chad, it was just comfortable and easy but he finally had enough
The discussion swapped to how he saves money on this lower-income
The biggest thing for him was cooking at home
It turned into a full-blown hobby instead of just a money saver
He plans to be out of debt in 3-5 years
His big goal is to retire before age 55 and hit that $1M mark
Chad is also trying to build up side hustles including coaching and writing a book
Then we discuss the "poverty-tax" and the importance of an emergency fund
Key Takeaways
Everyone can benefit from this journey: Chad began this journey on as little as $10.75 per hour and it's changed his life. Your velocity may be different but the impact is still extremely meaningful.
We can always help: Although Chad is still working through his debt payoff, he still has a lot to teach other low-income individuals chasing FI.
Don't settle for misery: Chad obviously stayed at his first job too long. After 6 years he was still underpaid and forced into positions he hated. Regardless of pay, working in a job you hate is never worth it.
Call to Action
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10 Sep 2019 | Earning Over $350K on Fiverr (per year) | Alex Fasulo | 00:50:48 | |
In today's episode, Cody and Justin are joined by Alex Fasulo who is the queen of Fiverr.
This 26 year old makes insane money as a copywriter all online.
Alex came from a family of entrepreneurs but sought a job in politics or law.
After graduation, she found herself in a job she hated and quit soon after. Alex turned to a little site called Fiverr to start trying to earn money online.
Fast forward a while and she'd become a Fiverr pro who travels the world and makes over $350k per year risk-free.
Listen and read below to hear how she did this and how you can too.
Episode Summary
She really started paying attention to money after moving to NYC and being out of a job just a few weeks later
The job didn't turn out to be at all what she was expecting
So she quit
She comes from an entrepreneur family
Her mom has done hand-painted clothes
Her dad has made board games
She went to school for political science and aspired to be a lawyer or politician
In the house, they were smart with money and savers
However, there wasn't conversations on investing or anything more complicated
Before she quit her job she had been on a site that was still pretty small called Fiverr
After a few months, she started having some traction with it
Alex recalls the first day she ever made $100 in one day and felt like this could work
Then we start discussing how she grew her rates and found her value
After a year of taking things really seriously, she was earning around $32k
Alex talks about how important the review is during this growth stage
She said if you're early on, it's best to just create a new account if hit with a bad review
Now we unravel the origin of Fiverr Pro and how Alex's earnings exploded
Alex was invited to a photoshoot for Fiverr and then told she was invited to this new program
The minimum rates would be four times what she was currently selling
Keep in mind that there's no pro membership or risk to Alex
Eventually, she was making over $300k per year and money was piling up
We then discuss what Alex plans to do with all that money
Then we discuss the drawbacks like all the sitting, bad backs, and carpel tunnel
While the business is crazy successful for Alex, it isn't really possible to scale further
Currently, Fiverr doesn't have a team version but it may be in the future
Alex isn't ready to leave Fiverr anytime soon because they bring her so many clients
Even though they take 20% of the profits, she doesn't believe she could find the number of gigs
We then talk about some of her biggest or craziest deals including the royal family
She's also starting other side hustles like converting horse trailers into mobile bars and ebooks
Key Takeaways
Brace yourself for change: It was awesome to see how well Alex did with the change that happened when she found herself in a job she hated. We have to be ready for what life hands us and make the most of it.
Income can be exponential: Much like investments, income can also grow exponentially as you build a reputation
Online doesn't mean easy: We often romanticize working online but it's obvious Alex has put in countless hours to build her dream. Don't expect easy money to just fall in the sky
Call to Action
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17 Sep 2019 | 1500 Days to Freedom LIVE at FinCon | Carl & Mindy Jensen | 00:34:10 | |
In today's episode, Cody and Justin are joined by Carl and Mindy Jensen from 1500 Days.
This power couple is a staple in the financial independence space.
We had a blast recording live at FinCon and can't wait for you to hear.
Discover the origin of the 1500 day blog, the dinosaurs, and why Carl will never be a plumber
Listen and read below to get all the wisdom from Carl and Mindy.
Episode Summary
Carl discovered FIRE after having a bad day at work at age 37
He ended up setting a goal of retiring in 1500 days
He met his goal at age 43
Mindy and Carl write over at 1500 days
Mindy is also a co-host of the Bigger Pockets Money Podcast
They live next to Mr. Money Mustache in Colorado
After becoming friends they went in together in a co-working space
We start unwrapping Carl and Mindy’s upbringing
Carl’s parents weren’t very good with money
He also was the first in his family to go to college
Carl became a work-a-holic and a money hoarder
He would wake up with nightmares about money and getting fired
Mindy actually is the one who still works though
She loves her job, which has nothing to do with her education
Mindy and Carl had their kids before they discovered FIRE
They were three and five years old
Both kids are still in school
With that, Mindy doesn’t miss valuable family time by working
We then discuss how the kids perceive them as retired parents
Mindy recalls growing up spending all Saturday going to garage sales
She said her parents had money but didn’t let the kids know
Carl recalls picking individual stocks when he first started working
He doesn’t recommend this approach now but got lucky with it
Mindy didn’t utilize the stock market until she got married
But she did start investing in real estate right away
Her first place was a $50k condo
She sold it a little later for $75k
We go back to hearing how Carl started his blog 1500 days
It was based on the days left he had to work after discovering FIRE
The blog was a way to keep him accountable
Currently, they invest in real estate including a Maine trailer park
They also do index funds, solo 401ks, and a syndicate deal
They still do live in flips and are about to start a new one
We then discuss the things they do for fun
Carl’s favorite thing about retirement is the uncertainty
The next big project they have is starting a brewery
Mindy discusses not moving around even with no job holding them down
Then we dial into the final three questions
Trust us you won’t want to miss these
Hint… Carl gets sprayed with feces
Key Takeaways
You may not change: Carl was addicted to working and staying busy. Just because he doesn't have to work, doesn't mean it changes that natural instinct to look for the next project.
You may work for fun: Most people get nervous about retiring early out of fear. In reality, most people still end up making money in retirement. Just look at Mindy who's killing it at Bigger Pockets
Have fun people: Our favorite thing about Carl and Mindy is just how much fun they have with life. Don't stress yourself out. Enjoy the ride.
Call to Action
The call to action this week is in honor of our guests... DRINK A BEER!
Non-Alcoholic is just fine :)
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24 Sep 2019 | Entrepreneurship Unveiled | Taylor Offer from FEAT Socks | 00:45:10 | |
In today's episode, Cody and Justin are joined by Taylor Offer from FEAT Socks.
This 26-year-old has been making millions since he was 22 from selling socks.
Yes, you heard us right...Socks. But FEAT Socks aren't your average socks and Taylor isn't your average entrepreneur.
Taylor gave up a prestigious investment banking internship to follow his dreams and create a business.
There was failure and even an unhealthy amount of success. Today Taylor has streamlined business and his life and ready to show you how.
Listen and read below to hear his amazing journey.
Episode Summary
We welcome Taylor from FEAT Socks
This business now makes millions annually
From a young age, Taylor was fascinated about price arbitrage -- this is where you can buy something and sell it for a big markup
Taylor doesn’t remember one moment that made him interested in money
He was more focused on value even as a child
Going into college he was only focused on a lucrative degree
He got a coveted internship in banking
Then realized how unhappy everyone in this business was
That made him realize that entrepreneurship was going to be his path
People were hard on him for dropping his coveted internship
His first business venture was a marketplace for college kids
It was called Market Loco and got over 500k hits in a month
The infrastructure costs were too expensive, so it failed
His next venture was making custom print t-shirts for frats / sororities
He started door-to-door but did a huge cross-country spree
It was really successful at the beginning and seemed too easy
Then one of his orders got ruined by the manufacturer on a $7k order
Taylor realized custom business was really tough
Great quote – “There’s a million ways to get it wrong, and only one way to get it right”
He meets his soon-to-be business partner his senior year
His partner parker had done $1M+ in custom lacrosse jersey sales
They brainstormed and settled on crazy socks as the next idea
This would become FEAT Socks
They sold $2k worth of socks out of a backpack on campus the first day
Over their senior year they sold 20k pairs of socks
They were making these by hand with a heat press
Eventually they hired out college friends
Imagine college kids in an unheated workspace, drinking and making socks
They really grew their list through Instagram and Facebook
Things really turned when they got their angel investor
Overnight they get $250k as seed money and FEAT Socks is legit
Then through some connections they get Aly Raisman as an influencer
It was during the Olympics and she sells $500k worth of socks and FEAT Socks goes viral
Originally, they were going to give away 50% of the company for $50k
Instead they raised the $250k at a $1.5M evaluation
Then we start talking about how the business got away from them
At age 23 they are making millions, move to LA and hire 20 entry-level employees
They get a 5k square foot warehouse all decked out
Taylor and Parker get named to Forbes 30 under 30 and life seems perfect
Then, their logistics company misses Christmas delivery dates for a ton of customers
They also spiraled into depression and worked 16 hour days all week
Taylor just broke down one day and took a one way to Thailand
He saw these poor kids in the streets who were happy
That moment made him really realize what was important
They also realized they had $75k in overhead -- this caused them to let go of more than 75% of their workforce and to automate everything
It was cheaper, better quality, and way less stressful
FEAT is now very successful with only 1 hour of work per day for the founders
With FEAT Socks running on its own, they started a marketing company
Taylor actually has like three other businesses going on (serious entrepreneur!)
He feels like he’s happy but always finding the balance
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01 Oct 2019 | From Family Bankruptcy to Multiple Income Streams | Ben Le Fort | 00:39:23 | |
In today's episode, Cody and Justin are joined by Ben Le Fort.
Ben is Canadian and has an awesome back story.
His parents were financially unstable even to the point of needing Ben to help with the mortgage as a teenager and bankruptcy.
Ben would go on to turn things around and is now on the financial fast track. He and his wife now own two properties and are saving aggressively towards retirement.
Fun note, one of those properties is actually the home that his parents now live in.
Listen and read below to hear his amazing journey.
Episode Summary
Ben grew up upper-middle class but then 2008 happened
Both of his parents were realtors and the recession crushed them leaving them bankrupt
His parents had no savings and the housing market crashed
Looking back he saw some flags that they hadn't been saving
One of those flags was being asked to help pay the mortgage as a teenager
The problems his parents went through caused him to choose economics as a major
Ben would end up graduating with about $30k in student debt
This was a rough go because he was having to use student lines of credit
His parents' income made him ineligible for financial aid or government student loans in Canada
Ben would go on to miss some payments which took a toll on his credit
Upon graduation, he couldn't find a good job because of the recession (2010)
This drove him to going back and getting his masters degree
Ben got roommates in a run-down apartment for $350 a month
He tried to continue living the college lifestyle so he could pay off his debt
Ben became debt-free in 2015
Then Ben talks to us about meeting his wife
She was very risk-averse and investing scared her
After tackling stocks they moved on to real estate
Ben now has two properties and has done very well on both
Fun note, his parents actually rent a property from him
Ben's financial world is now off the charts and he's looking to help other
That's what started his venture into blogging online via Medium
That writing has now turned into a legitimate side hustle
We then tackle Canadian investing vs American investing
Key Takeaways
Be prepared for the unthinkable: His parents were so used to their income and the stability of the housing market. When it crashed, they certainly weren't prepared.
Your start doesn't define you: The thing that really jumps out in this episode is that his parents' bankruptcy didn't mean Ben couldn't be successful. It actually benefited him through the motivation it gave him.
Currency Matters: There was a really tangible discussion where Ben called out the tactics of someone in Canada investing and how it differs from the United States.
Call to Action
Whether it is a parent, cousin, or just a friend. Find a loved one who could use a talk about finance and open up and talk to them. Keep it simple and make them feel comfortable if you can.
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08 Oct 2019 | Blackjack Your Way to Financial Independence | Colin Jones from Blackjack Apprenticeship | 00:42:46 | |
In today's episode, you'll hear how to get to financial independence via Blackjack (wait, what?).
Yep, that's right. Cody and Justin are joined by Colin Jones from Blackjack Apprenticeship.
Colin got an education in mathematics and started out as a teacher.
A buddy introduced him to card counting and changed his financial path forever.
He turned a couple thousand dollars he and his wife had saved and tried his hand at the card tables. That small amount of seed money would lead to millions in earnings, a team of prolific card counters, a documentary and his website where he looks to train the next great card counters.
Listen and read below to hear this incredible story.
Episode Summary
Colin's upbringing led him to be frugal
He really just wanted to be in a band and wasn't interested in college
His parents urged him to go
He decided he'd rather go to school than go out on his own
Colin ended up studying mathematics which was a great foundation to card counting
When he was 22 a friend gave him a book about card counting to win at blackjack
Colin then talks about his practice schedule went
After his friend started ramping up his earnings to $80 an hour, Colin decided to give it a real try
He took $2k of the $6k he and his wife had saved to seed his efforts
For the first few months, he wasn't really making much
His friend got picked up by a national card counting team
Then, later on, that same friend transferred all that knowledge to him and that really upped his game
After a bit, they realized they could make $200+ per hour if they had $100k in money to play with
For his career-high, he earned $434 dollars per hour
It took them 6 months of 30 hour weeks to get to six figure earnings
After a couple years they had formed a team that was making $500k per year
Colin opens up about how his profession was viewed by his family which were missionaries
Then Colin talks about the legality of card counting at a casino
Spoiler alert: it's perfectly legal
Colin also gives us a brief overview of how card counting works
One interesting thing is Colin has never put money into the stock market
He prefers to invest in real estate and grow his online business
His online business is Blackjack Apprenticeship
The site has online forums, software, and training videos to help you learn card counting yourself
On top of that, he does three or four live events where he helps polish fellow card counters' skills
Colin signs off by challenging everyone to question why they want to be financially independent
Key Takeaways
Money can be made everywhere: This is just another example of the limitless ways you can earn money in today's world.
Easy money is hard: Colin can repeatedly walk into a casino and earn money but it took countless hours of hard work and practice.
Tombstones: We absolutely loved his statement about the goal isn't to have financially independent on your tombstone. Life is bigger than that.
Call to Action
Write out five things you envision you'll do in retirement and then elaborate on why you actually want to do those things
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15 Oct 2019 | How to Handle Student Loans | Nate & Mike from LendEDU | 00:43:24 | |
In today's episode, you'll hear how Nate created a site to help people navigate student debt called LendEDU.
You'll hear how this website was born during college and now makes over $1M per year.
Joining Nate is one of his employees named Mike.
We cover their specific site, the industry, and tips for students today.
Listen and read below to hear this awesome business transformation.
Episode Summary
Colin's upbringing led him to be frugal
In high school, Nate had some jobs
He didn't really care about finance until college
His freshman year he took on a good bit of debt in 2012
Mike still has student loans
He didn't take it seriously until graduation
Nate also worked during college
He started paying off his debts immediately
He graduated with $60 debt
$45k came after 2 years then he changed it up
He started mixing in community college
Nate and Mike met in college
Nate starts LendEDU and brings on Mike
By the time they graduated in 2016, it became a full-time job
They both highlight how little finance information is available to high school and college students
They also realize others cover their material
But they try to present it in ways more consumable by younger people
Mixing in video and shortening length
We dive into some tips for incoming freshman
Question really why you're going to college
Do you already know your profession?
Is trade school a better option?
Then exhaust every grant and scholarship
Students should also look at what their total debt bill with be, not just year one
Nate saved $10k by mixing in community College while at a 4yr university
Then we jump into the business side of the website
They started off making $200 per month from advertisements in 2014
By the end of 2015, they were making $10k per month
By the end of 2016, they reached $50k per month
The team has scaled to 15 people
Today LendEDU makes over $1M per year working with 120 advertisers
Their reviews are all unpaid and therefore objective
Separation between the income and the rankings of products is important to them
Then we talk about unique new ways to avoid student debt
One is payback programs where you commit a percentage of your future salary
The other is where you don't need a co-signer for your loans
Under this model, it is based more on your degree choice and time left 'til graduation
Key Takeaways
Don't wait for success: It was awesome to see how Nate didn't put this business off until he graduated
Hire who you trust: The team has grown to 15 and 10 of those were college classmates. Trust is often more important than qualification
White Space Can Be a Style: Plenty of companies were covering these topics but none in a way that resonated with 20-year-olds
Call to Action
Take a look at your student loans and see if there is a refinancing option or anything to make those payments fly by.
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22 Oct 2019 | The Financial Freedom Summit | Grant Sabatier & PT Money | 00:58:51 | |
In today's episode, you'll hear about the Financial Freedom Summit!
To help us cover the summit we bring on Grant Sabatier from Millennial Money and PT Money who created FinCon.
This summit is for everyone. It's not a blogger conference, it's for everyone who is trying to improve their relationship with money.
The Summit is May 1st - 3rd, 2020 in St. Louis.
Listen as we uncover why we are so excited about a conference that you surely won't want to miss.
Episode Summary
We start off by getting PT Money's background who started as a CPA
He would then go on to create FinCon (if you've never been...just GO)
Then we move to Grant Sabatier
He went from $2.26 over $1M by the time he was 30
He writes over at Millennial Money
Grant also authored the book Financial Freedom
Then PT gives us an overview of how FinCon got started in 2011
Grant then talks about this need for The Financial Freedom Summit
He first noticed this need while on the road across America talking about financial freedom
He and Cody then set out to create a game plan and road map
It's just an honest attempt at being stewards of the community
The big change conversations will happen everywhere
It may be in the hall, between sessions, or in the lobby in the middle of the night
The big goal is to track $1B in net-worth increase in 10 years
No one will be here trying to make a commission off of you
Just people answering your questions
There's also a rockstar list of speakers
You can also make the conference your own with separate tracks
Tracks like debt payoff, parenting, real estate, or entrepreneurs
In the end, we just hope to see you all in St. Louis May 1st - 3rd
Key Takeaways
Everyone is welcome with money: This isn't just for a small sect of people, if you want to grow your relationship with money, you're welcome
Finance is more than early retirement: Debt payoff, financial freedom, meaning to money, there are so many
There are tracks for everyone: Budgeters, entrepreneurs, real estate, small business, or gig economy... there are a lot of tracks
Call to Action
Go and grab and get your tickets so you can join us for this awesome weekend.
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29 Oct 2019 | Addiction, Recovery, and Giving Back | Deanna Broaddus from Recovering Women Wealth | 00:45:36 | |
In today's episode, you'll hear the powerful story from Deanna who writes at Recovering Women Wealth.
Deanna would bounce around the world while sprinkling in college which she graduated from at age 28.
By that time she had already been married and divorced but found her passion in teaching.
Unfortunately, she then became addicted to drugs and alcohol and found her self six figures in debt.
Thankfully at age 36 she got sober and now at 46 is debt free and on solid financial ground.
Listen to one of the more powerful episodes we've ever had and let us know what you think.
Episode Summary
Her parents were good with money and she was rebellious
She knew money was necessary to be able to get out on her own
Deanna did some learn some money lessons but they didn't sink in until much later
She admits that they wanted for nothing and were middle class
Deanna's parents also saved up for her college
Her dad was a successful salesman and her mom stayed at home
She would end up bouncing around while sporadically going to college
Deanna would end up in Europe, Colorado, and Ohio
At 25 she was married and 27 she was divorced
Deanna would also have to file for bankruptcy because so much debt was in her name
At 28 she would finish her undergraduate degree and find her passion in teaching
While it took her 10 years to get her undergrad, she got her graduate in just one year
To pay for her lifestyle during all this she would rely on being a waitress
She started out on a promising career in education as a mathematics teacher
Then someone from her past came back to her life and got her hooked back on drugs
She stopped teaching and got offered a job at a country club she used to work at
Unfortunately, it was a job surrounded by alcohol
Deanna would continue to spiral and found herself six figures in debt
The Turning Point
She recalls seeing three paths including insanity, death, and a glimmer of hope
At 36 she realized she was done and quit cold turkey
She was able to do this without entering a treatment facility
Instead, she just utilized anonymous groups
Her money journey started to turn around too
A church friend introduced her to the Dave Ramsey techniques
Now four years she was making a lot of progress but still had struggles
She would end up losing her house due to foreclosure
Now with little debt remaining, she was extremely motivated
At age 43 she made the decision to move in with her parents to accelerate things
She became debt-free in December 2017
Today she works in the insurance industry and loves her job
She started that career-making $40k and is now up to $70k
Deanna is actually looking to take a year and volunteer at an orphanage in Uganda
We can't wait to see where life takes her and her powerful story
Key Takeaways
Financial freedom > Retiring Early: Deanna is 46 and not near the end of her FI journey but she feels so free without the burden of debt
Use these powers for good: I love how this community takes there freedom and uses it help others the way Deanna does
It doesn't have to be a sprint: Deanna has made huge strides but many would not feel comfortable taking a year off but that's what she wants to do so she can volunteer at an orphanage in Africa... and that's pretty awesome!
Call to Action
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05 Nov 2019 | How to Find the Right Side Hustle | Nick Loper from Side Hustle Nation | 00:46:51 | |
In today's episode, you'll hear from the side hustle king Nick Loper from Side Hustle Nation.
Nick got an eye-opening opportunity in college and knew he had to be his own boss.
He would eventually work three years in the corporate world. During that time he was building his side hustle.
It was quickly covering his expenses and he never looked back.
Listen and learn all about side hustles and let us know what you think.
Episode Summary
He started paying attention to money when he started realizing how expensive things were
Things such as renting a tux for prom
His parents didn't let on that they had the money that they didn't
It wasn't that they were rich but they did well
His first memorable job was through a program called College Works
They pitch entrepreneurship, sales, and customer service
You don't know what the job is until the pitch is over
It turned out to be house painting
They gave him an area of responsibility and taught him several skills
He was in charge of hiring, firing and solving customer issues
They warned Nick that he may never be able to work for someone after this experience
Nick mentioned how important this experience was to applying his education
He would go on to work for three years in corporate America
Nick's 1st Side Hustle
Nick built his first side hustle at 22
It was a comparison shopping tools for footwear
Every day he'd come home and work on the side hustle from 7-10pm
At his normal job Nick was making ~$50k per year
Before long the shoe site began earning enough to cover his expenses
At this point, Nick was ready to take the side hustle full time
What really flipped the switch for Nick was a quote from a conference
It was "Work on your business, not in your business"
Nick took this to focus on growing the business and less of the day to day grunt work
That lead to the next side hustle which was a yelp type site for finding a virtual assistant
Choosing Your Side Hustle
Nick recommends finding two areas you're in the top 50% in
Then find a way that those two things intersect
He also suggests trying out things to experiment
You'll often find your true golden idea once you get started on a project
If you begin to dread the work, it may be time to stop working on that side hustle
Tiers of Side hustles
Nick says side hustle fall into three categories: Service, Product, Audience
For Services, Nick really recommends branding fragmented services
He gives the example of building a maid service that has great customer service and ease of booking
For Product he recommends a "buy low, sell high" model like print on demand shirts
Then for an audience, you can sell clicks to ads or affiliate links
Also once the audience gets large enough you can sell something like an ebook or course
Key Takeaways
Expertise not required: Nick's first side hustle was comparing shoes and Nick knew very little about shoes
Be better, not necessarily different: It's more important to provide a great experience than something that's never been done
Think in scale: When building a side hustle focus your energy on how it will scale. Remember work on the business not for the business
Call to Action
Go check out Nick's giant list of Side Hustles and find a few today
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12 Nov 2019 | Overcoming Wealth Guilt (+ Blogging for Profit Course Review) | Mrs. Miller from Millers on FIRE | 00:47:39 | |
In today's episode, you'll hear from Mrs. Miller who writes over at Millers On Fire.
Mrs. Miller grew up in the Bronx surrounded by low incomes and not much excess.
She gets out and her salaries begin to really climb. Once she passed the six-figure mark, she started feeling the guild of success.
At age 32, she comes to terms with what she'd achieved and found a new motivation in a journey to financial independence.
She also shares her experience with the Blogging for Profit Course.
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Episode Summary
She originally wanted to go into criminal law.
The original plan was to get a political science degree
That should set her up to become a lawyer
Once she decided being a lawyer wasn't in the cards she swapped majors
She'd end up graduating with a business degree
Being born and raised in New York she lived there with her father while she hunted for a job
She'd eventually find work with the U.S. government in California
Mrs. Miller's Background
Her salary would quickly climb from $35k to $70K and eventually up past $100k
The problem was her lifestyle inflated alongside her paycheck
She slowly increased her savings rate from 3% to 10%
Lacking financial literacy, she didn't consider what investing could do for not only her future but start a shift in generational wealth
Mrs. Miller Discovers FI
At age 32 she came across an article that explained this idea of financial independence
She took a look at her life and spending and realized she had a lot of financial potential
She admitted to struggle to even store all her clothes and shoes
Throughout her working career, she'd only been saving 10% of her income
After the discovery of financial independence, she would ramp that up to 50%
Mrs. Miller Spreading FIRE (+ Blogging for Profit)
Once she experienced such a shift in mindset, she wanted to spread it
In 2016 she bought the domain name for millersonfire.com
Unfortunately, it didn't go anywhere
Running a website proved to be overwhelming
Then in 2019, she took a course on Blogging for Profit
From there she found the tools and motivation to get back to her passion project
Mrs. Miller has seen a big turnaround and shares that for her readers
She also does a great job of being extremely transparent with her numbers
The Millers sit at a net worth of about $500k
Their goal is $1.1M and hope to hit that by age 44
Key Takeaways
Success can hurt: Mrs. Miller was crushing her professional life but felt undeserving and guilty when she knew many people even in her own family, who were struggling.
Don't listen to standards: Saving 10% can feel like the finish line, push yourself to save as much as you can, not hit a minimum number.
It's ok to get help: Mrs. Miller tried blogging back in 2016 and hit a wall before getting help from the Blogging For Profit Course.
Call to Action
Reevaluate a project you started that fizzled out due to overcomplication
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19 Nov 2019 | Frugality Without Deprivation | Jen Smith from Modern Frugality | 00:44:43 | |
In today's episode, you'll hear from Jen who co-hosts the Frugal Friends podcast and writes at Modern Frugality.
Jen really didn't want to become frugal in her 20's because she was afraid of losing out.
Over time she realized the amount of work it was taking to reach her goals was too much.
She decided to stop only focusing on more work and begin focusing on frugality.
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Episode Summary
The first thing her husband wanted to do after getting married was paying off student debt
Jen was not originally on board with this
She didn't want to live under a rock under her 20's
Her husband explained the opportunities that they'd have if they got out of debt
They were $78k in debt total
The two of them also didn't have a ton of income
Jen came around to getting out of debt but still didn't want to lower her income
She tried to add on three side hustles on top of her job
There was so much stress that she ended up with shingles
In totality between all their work and side hustles, they were bringing in up to $88k
Originally the goal was to be debt-free in 5 years
In the end, it turned out to only take 23 months
Jen's Tools for Turning Around Her Finance
One of the most powerful tools she used was a method called habit stacking
This is where you take one habit you're good at and sticking another on top
Hers was brushing teeth with budgeting tied in on it
Jen also really recommends manually tracking vs automated systems at first
Another tool Jen used was a no-spend challenge
This is where you don't spend money on any non-critical item for a set period of time
Many times people shoot for a month
Saving money is good for you and the environment she also calls out
Buying cheap things that get tossed lead to waste
Cheap vs Frugal
Impacting someone else negatively is cheap
Impacting yourself negatively is cheap
If it's illegal it's cheap
If something takes you so much time to save money that you're not there for someone else it's cheap
Key Takeaways
Less is more: Jen actually became happier in life after stripping off unnecessary spending instead of it being a burden
Saving is self cafe: She talked about how so many of the things we spend money on take us away from things we really care about
Cheap is harmful: We discuss how being cheap is destructive to relationships and the environment
Call to Action
Assign a value on a scale of your choosing to the expenses in a certain category. Start reducing the ones you value least.
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26 Nov 2019 | Listening is a Superpower | MK Williams | 00:43:11 | |
In today's episode, you'll hear from MK Williams who authors Financial Independence Fiction.
She started out chasing a career for money but found herself unsatisfied.
MK studied the art of writing and self-publishing.
Now she is authoring books and helping other authors as well.
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Episode Summary
MK saw her mom put herself through law school and struggle
From there she always wanted to hoard money vs spending it
She decided to major in economics
This decision was largely to earn a higher income
She had a passion for writing but didn't feel like she had the skills
MK graduated in the middle of the recession so no job was lucrative
Her first job would come through a fluke all at USAA
She had moved down to Florida to live with her parents
Her starting salary was $38k but she didn't love her job
While in Tampa she would meet her now-husband Jason
Jason actually owned his house and was renting rooms out to people
It's very obvious that Jason and MK are completely on the same frugal page
We then discuss how they keep finances straight as a couple
They actually just use whatever credit card they need for rewards
Writing as a business
MK had this dream that she would just write a book and a publisher would show up
That didn't happen
She said it took her three to four years of learning to be ready
In the end, she settled on self-publishing
MK wasn't driven to write for money at first
She then discusses how she grew her brand organically
Mk wasn't open to the idea of just paying for tons of ads to grow
Then we talk about MK's inspiration for her fictional novels
She shares a story of her husband who started selling her families stuff at 12
FI Journey
MK got out of debt in 2012
Then they discovered Mr. Money Mustache in 2013
The topic didn't stick at first but then they read Early Retirement Extreme and it stuck this time
They had always been good with money but there was no real purpose behind it.
Then we swap gears into how she's helping Fiology and ChooseFI with their books
MK is now a full-time author and independent publisher by helping others learn how to self-publish
She's also taking all these lessons and sharing them via her YouTube Channel
MK also shares how authors can still provide physical books without huge upfront costs
Key Takeaways
Partner in crime: It's so important to get on the same page with your partner, if your not today, just keep working
Keep Learning: MK shows how she's continuously learning such as re-reading Harry Potter to understand how a series builds
Cheap is harmful: We discuss how being cheap is destructive to relationships and the environment
Call to Action
Practice your listening skills, We learn from listening not from speaking.
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03 Dec 2019 | Financial Independence Optional Retirement | Lisa from Mad Money Monster | 00:33:26 | |
In today's episode, you'll hear from Lisa who writes over at Mad Money Monster.
She started off life poor, had a bad first relationship, then discovered Financial Independence.
Lisa was in her 30s and went in full force cutting out all her expenses.
It turned out to be too harsh and she shifted her mindset to FI/OR.
This is Financial Independence / Optional Retirement and she breaks that down for us.
Listen, learn, and let us know what you think.
Episode Summary
She grew up poor so she was always fascinated with money
Once she had her kid she really knew finances were important
Then she meets her current husband and they start to close on their big dream home
Lisa talks about how the home was way out of their price range
Luckily the inspector found black mold in the house
This meant the deal fell through and they avoided huge debt
Lisa was in her mid-30s in 2015 when all this happened
Growing up Poor
Then Lisa talks about her upbringing in a 400 sq ft trailer
She does note that it was in a great school district
Most of her classmates lived in big nice houses
Neither of her parents graduated high school
Justin and Lisa talk about how to fit in when you don't have money
One of the big things was spending a little to get name brand clothes
Since they lived in such a small house their family was doing ok
They weren't living on super thin margins but they weren't saving anything
FI Journey
Lisa already had her undergrad, masters, and career started before finding financial independence
She had been saving for retirement since day one but no extreme focus
Lisa steps back in her story to cover a relationship that fell apart earlier in life
She ended up leaving their house with nothing
Lisa actually owned a home that she rented to her parents but didn't want to stay there
So she ended up renting another apartment
Then we step back to what life looked like when she really discovered Financial Independence
The day she discovers it, she goes into work and maxes out her 401k contribution
Then they started cutting everything
No weekly pizza or coffee dates, nothing was off-limits
FI/OR - Financial Independence Optional Retirement
Lisa goes over the 5 big points of this idea of FI/OR
Pressure is off - you don't have to be extreme and retire super early for no reason
Makes work more fun - FIRE made work seem daunting, focusing less on it made work fun
Scale back / Stop Side Hustles - these are just second jobs and it can grind you down
Gives You Options - now you can focus a little more on the things you love vs rapid spending
Lisa's original goal was to stop working in 2021 and just do nothing
Then she started thinking about kid's college/wedding, vacations, mom's care
Now Lisa is rethinking her timeline and moved it to 2025-2030
She and her husband currently have blogs and rental properties
She also admits she could never just retire and do nothing
Key Takeaways
No money? Spend it anyway: Lisa talks about how important having nice clothes was for her self esteem growing up poor
It's ok to slow down: Obviously Lisa has pivoted and changed her plans and she sounds so much happier with optional retirement.
Pick a Partner: We discuss how being cheap is destructive to relationships and the environment
Call to Action
Slow down a little, spend some time and money on something you love and avoid deprivation.
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10 Dec 2019 | Working Smarter and Scaling Your Income | Gina Horkey from Horkey Handbook | 00:52:17 | |
In today's episode, you'll hear from Gina who you can learn more about at Horkey Handbook.
Gina grew up poor but graduated college at 19 and began a string of successful careers.
After burning out in corporate America, she decided to try her hand at entrepreneurship.
Now she is running several successful online businesses aimed at helping others become entrepreneurs themselves.
Listen, learn, and let us know what you think.
Episode Summary
She grew up poor and money was always a challenge
As kids, she'd have to buy her own clothes even in middle school
Gina started babysitting at age 11
But Gina was always driven to make something of her self
She actually started going to college while she was an 11th / 12th grader
This allowed her to graduate college just before she turned 20
The program is a special thing that Minnesota does and is free
Then she ended up getting married at 21 and settled down in her hometown
After college, she worked for a company helping people reach fitness goals
Then she'd transition careers into being a financial advisor
Gina was working 60 hour weeks but was learning a ton
It's obvious that Gina is an extremely hard worker
This means that she thrives in a commission-based jobs
Her biggest advice for these type jobs is to sell something you're passionate about
She gives some interesting insights into the life of a financial advisor
Gina would stay in this career field for 10 years
Just before leaving the corporate world they started preparing for a change
Her husband quits his job in 2013 to be a stay at home day
She knew she wanted to be an entrepreneur and started investigating
Gina would start freelancing in several different areas
Then she did some virtual assistant working
By 2015 she was full-time entrepreneur
Her corporate job had been paying about $60k before she left
She talks about a lot of the success and benefits
One of which is they take a 2-month vacation to the beach in Texas every year
They actually unenroll their children from school every year and home school them
There were some struggles though
She felt guilty being close to her kids but having to work all-day
Gina now has a separate location on her property to work in
It really helps her separate life and work
Gina does struggle with taking on too much work
This year she actually stressed herself out so much she grew a dependency on alcohol
Luckily she is now been sober for over six months
Then Gina goes over some tips for managing stress
Her and her husband are both frugal and don't want a lot of flashy things
She does, however, believe in investing in herself
Gina actually pays $3k per month for a business coach and it's totally paying off
Her and her husband also utilize a personal trainer
Then Gina goes over a laundry list of businesses she's involved in
These include virtual assistant, freelancing, and Pinterest courses
Some of these are branching off into niches
Such as podcast virtual assistants
Key Takeaways
Control your income: Gina talks about how a sales-oriented career puts earning power into your own hands
Commit Cautiously: Gina put so much into her businesses, but at times pushed herself way too far
Branch successes: When Gina finds something is working she doubles down and finds another angle to also go after
Call to Action
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17 Dec 2019 | Finding Your Perfect Work-Life Balance | Lauren & Steven from Trip of a Lifestyle | 00:48:33 | |
In today's episode, you'll hear from Lauren and Steven who write over at Trip of a Lifestyle.
This awesome couple took a six-month honeymoon to Hawaii and that changed everything.
They got a taste of traveling on a budget and earning along the way.
We can't wait to showcase how they took control of their work-life balance and living life to the fullest.
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Episode Summary
Discovering Financial Independence
Lauren started paying attention to income in college
She worked her way through college with scholarships and jobs
Then when her and Steven moved together to California they started talking to advisors
Steven's started getting interested in investing after he started working
They ended up getting sold some really bad investments from a bank investor
Although it was a bad situation it was a big learning moment
They actually came up with this idea of having investments covering your expenses before formally discovering FI
It was also really helpful that they started early before they had faced lifestyle inflation
The big change for them after finding FI/RE was just saving with more of a purpose
They end up moving back to Florida to take advantage of a free master's program for Steven
This program was based on a requirement that Steven would teach for a bit in Florida
During his teaching commitment, they got married and started brainstorming their honeymoon
Long Term Honeymoon
They had a goal of really driving down the cost per day for a Hawaii trip
Instead of a week or two, they would stay six months
They bought a used car, rented an apartment, and worked 10hrs per week
When the trip was over, they had broken even and their net-worth actually grew
This trip supercharged their will to retire early
Lauren & Steven were actually more excited about work because they knew what they wanted now
When they returned to Florida they also bought a small condo for cash
Even though they owned their house, they brought in roommates to bring in more money
Finding Work-Life Balance
To enable this type of travel they leveraged their skills to earn money while on the go
Steven picked up some private tutoring jobs
They both also do photography
Lauren negotiated with her employer for a part-time remote job which they agreed
When they would go on trips after buying their condo, they'd sign short term tenants
Lauren will also help out small business with social media
All 61 National parks in seven months
After a period of working after returning from the honeymoon, work started taking a toil
They felt really burnt out and felt like they should just be doing more of this travel
So they came up with this idea of seeing all 61 national parks
Total cost of the trip including van depreciation, healthcare, chartering planes etc was $37k
That's total for two people and seven months
It would have only cost $21k if they skipped a couple of the really remote ones
Over that seven month period between side jobs and rent, they earned $37k
So their income matched their expenses while taking an incredible trip
You can get the full breakdown of this trip here
Their Spending
They have spent $18k-$27k per year
They are comfortable not chasing a specific FI number
Lauren & Steven look to continue their side jobs but have no interest in starting a business
Key Takeaways
Test driving FI/RE: Lauren and Steven talk about how their trips are a test run at what financial independence will look like.
Avoid burnout at all cost: It's so important to enjoy the journey on your way to retirement
It's ok to not be a boss: I think it was very insightful that Lauren & Steven would rather use businesses than create one
Call to Action
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24 Dec 2019 | 10 Money Tips for 2019 | 00:38:27 | |
In today's episode, you'll hear from just your Hosts! That's right no guests to save the day.
As a reminder, Justin chronicles his life at Saving-Sherpa.com and Cody writes at FlytoFI.com
In today's episode, the guys tackle 10 financial tips they always hear and give their take on what's true.
Hopefully, you enjoy this special episode!
Listen, learn, and let us know what you think.
Episode Summary
Credit Card Balances
We discuss why you should ALWAYS be using a credit card
The need for setting up autopay to pay off the full balance
Neither of us recommends carrying any balance
Some think it helps build their credit
In reality, you're just setting yourself up to pay a ton of fees
The actual factor that relates to this is credit history which doesn't require a balance
Rent vs Buy
Justin calls out the importance of keeping in mind closing costs, HOAs, insurance, etc
It's much more complicated than comparing a mortgage to just your rent
These things are especially true if you're moving every two or three years
If you can go beyond and do things like house hacking, then buying is certainly a great option
Also, keep in mind the non-money part of the decision
Owning a house can be stressful and add in more variables to your life
New vs Used
Justin recommends buying a car that's 5 years old on a deal
Then keep that car for two to three years and try to sell before you hit 100k
Justin prefers these cars to be under $10k
Cody discusses depreciation and interest rates
Justin then compares buying a car and keeping it for 20 years vs rebuying periodically
Good vs Bad Debt
Obviously there is some debt that's terrible such as credit cards with 15% interest
Then there is a middle ground where it's debt that doesn't earn revenue but allows you to invest more
Both felt like anything that 4-5% range in interest should just be paid off as quickly as possible
Going to College
Going to a community college first isn't a no-brainer
Many scholarships that universities offer are only given to incoming freshman
Justin would have missed out on 10s of thousands if he went to community college
Cody calls out how important it is to just be intentional
He also calls out the cool trades and technical skills that don't require a college degree
Filling Up Savings Accounts
Justin highlights how destructive inflation can be
It's also scary to see how many people have avoided investing during the last five years
These people are often terrified that we've hit the top
Both guys highly recommend buy and hold as well as getting into the market right away
Financial Advisors
Justin does see value for some to have a tax specialist but doesn't see the need for a financial advisor
It may be a good idea to pay a one time fee for an advisor to help set up a plan you're comfortable with
That could help you get off the sidelines without being tied down to fees long term
These advisors often charge at least 1% which can really add up
You can see how much these fees are costing you by using Personal Capital's Fee Analyzer tool.
If the only reason you're using an advisor is to give you a scapegoat when things go bad, rethink that
To round it out, Justin cautions employees from having too much of their portfolio in their employers stock
Whole Life Insurance
Justin highlights that no reputable financial independence writer has recommended Whole Life insurance
People want to sell you these because the salesman gets a royalty for life
Whole Life mixes insurance and investing which means neither is as efficient as it could be
This doesn't mean you should necessarily cancel your plan if you're already deep into it
If you're really interested in this topic, we covered it previously in-depth
You can find that episode with Sa El here
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07 Jan 2020 | What Did You Accomplish in 2019? | 00:36:40 | |
In today's episode, you'll hear from just your Hosts! That's right, no guests today, but plenty of voices will be heard.
This episode is covering some of the activity that's been going on in our Community Facebook Page
In today's episode, the guys share with you the powerful accomplishments The FI Show group is achieving.
Also if you join the Community Facebook Page, we're starting a new thread for 2020 goals. Comment with your goals and we'll feature you on an episode coming out later as well as check-in and keep you accountable!
As always they'll also be transparent with their own wins.
Hopefully, you enjoy this special episode!
Listen, learn, and let us know what you think.
Episode Summary
Wins from various community members
Set up a Roth IRA for 18 yr old daughter
Visited FI friends in 10 states
Wrote a book with their daughter
Got to at least one comma in each account
Wrote a book
5 figures from a side hustle
FIREd at 44 then hit UK Chautaqua, CampFI, and FinCon
Reached FI at age 30
Maxed out his and wife's 401k
Couple that both FIRE'd before 30
Vacationed and paid off a truck
Paid off a mortgage
Fired a financial advisor and started to DIY
Transitioned to full time selling on Ebay
and many more....
One huge transformation
Discovered FI on Christmas of last year with only $1,500 in a checking account (plus some mutual funds for retirement)
Since then, negotiated a $12k raise
Got her company to pay for PMP
Volunteered at a startup to learn new skills to switch to a better-paying industry
Moved to another job for ANOTHER $30k raise
Automated savings to accumulate a $20k emergency fund
Maxed out Roth and HSA for the first time, plus getting a 401k match!
Took time to think about WHY even pursue FI
Now in the process of downsizing life and purchasing an RV to travel the country, see the public lands, and spend more time outdoors!
The Hosts Share Too
Justin saved 76% and is 80% of his way to FI
He spent $23k while living in Boston
With $10k of that going to rent...ouch
Full break down of expenses for those curious
Bills: $1,133
Travel: $315
Misc: $255
Eating out/drinks: $108
Gas: $61
Groceries: $53
Justin started a new job and upped his earnings
Some notable trips to Hawaii, Mexico, Colorado, countless other trips and time with family
Cody spent $28k while also living in Boston
Quit his job in January of 2019
Toured the country for 3 months living in a camper for Grant Sabatier's Financial Freedom book tour.
Got the Financial Freedom Summit setup for 2020
And took a 3.5 week trip to Peru and Chile in December
Key Takeaway
Reflection is Powerful: Both of us and the FI Show community felt so much more motivated to tackle 2020 and just felt so much better about ourselves after we realized how much we all crushed 2019
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14 Jan 2020 | Retiring Early in Canada | Court from Modern Fimily | 00:55:18 | |
In today's episode, you'll hear from Court who writes over at Modern FImily.
Court and her wife are (mostly) retiring early in Canada at 32, but will continue work a bit more until their second child is born.
They did this with student debt and a priority for living a full life while chasing their dreams.
Listen, learn, and let us know what you think.
Episode Summary
Discovering Financial Independence
Court had $70k of student debt after her bachelors and masters degree
She'd start her career in 2009
She was focused on getting out of debt
Court paid it off in 2.5 years
At this point, she looks to buy her first home
She then also discovers Mr. Money Mustache
Starting a career
She had the opportunity to participate in this rotational program
It allowed her to rotate three times in six-month time segments across different jobs
That gave her a wider view of options and allowed her to choose one right for her
Start of a family
She would meet her now wife in 2011
Her wife would also end up with some student debt
It was obvious right away that both were frugal and passionate about travel
Court drove the spreadsheet part of the relationship but their goals align
Looking forward
After getting married in 2015 they start designing their future
Court's wife was originally from Canada and they set their sites there
They would sell their home and all their things in Florida
Then they traveled for 6 months before moving up to Calgary
Court thought she'd a while to find a job and might travel another 6 months
Luckily the job came through sooner
Court was frugal but didn't have the investing background until finding the FI community
They welcomed their first child in 2018 and are planning for a second
Canadian Perks
Canada gives 18 months of paid time off for new parents
This nets around $25k per year
The insurance is incredible
She tells a story of going to the emergency room with less than $20 out of pocket
The medical bills for the birth of their child were limited to parking at the hospital
Court got her citizenship through her dad but could have gotten it through her wife
She also still gets U.S. perks like good travel rewards credit cards
Canada also gives you around $5k per year for children up to 17 years old
Canada will also give you $500 via match into an education saving plan
They also have payments to citizens over the age of 65 that's based off income
She also says that taxes are actually not that much higher than the USA
Looking Forward
Court lays out her withdrawal plan for retirement
She's moved to 60/40 stocks as she's about to stop working
There is a plan to get back to 80/20 after a few years in retirement
They plan to try and have a second child
Court goes over some of the considerations for a lesbian couple having children
They saved and planned for a 4% withdrawal rate
They believe they can be happy with closer to a 2% withdrawal rate
Key Takeaways
Better than expected: Court talks about how much faster FI came than expected
Canada has perks: It's so important to enjoy the journey on your way to retirement
Power in learning: Court wasn't from Canada but she's immersed herself to become an expert
Call to Action
Take a closer look at the fine print of your city/state/country programs and retirement options and consider what moving might look like.
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21 Jan 2020 | Discovering the FI Community | Camp FI Southeast 2020 | 00:33:39 | |
Today's episode was recorded live at Camp FI down near Gainesville, Florida.
Camp FI is a retreat of 40-60 people at locations across the country filled with people chasing FI and supporting fellow members of the community.
This episode highlights people who were convinced to come to CampFI without any background to the FI/RE movement.
Two other interviews include a graduate student studying the FI/RE movement and the camp's creator, Stephen.
Stephen talks about the origins and future of this camp and the motivations to keep this community growing.
Listen, learn, and let us know what you think.
Episode Summary
Laura
Inspired by an interview with Vicki Robbins
She was drawn by the way people see the role of work in their lives
The community was also very open to being researched
She noted how diverse the age and background was of the movement
It also came out that most people actually love their jobs
The last thing she called out was how intentional and conscious of their decisions
You can email her at firestudy@umich.edu if you're interested in being interviewed
Mike
He never could have imagined being at a conference like this
A friend of his recommended that he came
He notes how ready he is to take action the minute he gets home
Mike really recommends that people give this community a chance
Tactically he got an overview on how to get his realtor's license
He didn't image the generosity that he found with the community
Roople
Rupel is a practicing physician
She loves the challenge of why you're living life the way you are
Rupel calls out the trouble she sees with physician burnout
She also noted how easy it was to have deep, personal conversations with this community
While at the conference she moved investments away from higher fee options to low-cost index funds
She hopes that doctors will dig a little deeper and find why they love doing what they do
Refocusing on that and restructuring their life she hopes will alleviate the burnout
Since hearing about the movement, she ditched her overpriced apartment and bought a home
Creator of CampFI - Stephen
Stephen tried to make more of an emphasis on making real connections with the attendees
He hopes that people who are looking to get involved with FI/RE community will just jump in
Stephen first attended a camp like this in 2016 and knew he had to spread this idea to more people
This year they look to have at least nine of these camps all across the country
Stephen had no background in event planning and didn't know what to expect
Luckily everyone showed up who bought tickets the first year
Also worth noting that CampFI is where Cody & Justin met and The FI Show was born
Key Takeaways
FI isn't so different: Many of the stories we heard from FI "newbies" during the week mentioned that this community isn't just a bunch of "weirdos" and "money nerds". It's just people making slightly more conscious decisions.
So many paths: There was so much diversity: age, gender, profession, and general paths to FI. It showed just how many ways there are.
People are good: The American news cycles are often rough and draining. It's nice reminding yourself just how good people really are.
Call to Action
Start leaning on or creating a community around you that supports your growth as a person and your goals to reaching FI.
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28 Jan 2020 | Long Distance Real Estate Investing | Emil Shour from Roofstock | 00:44:42 | |
Today's episode is an awesome chat with Emil from Roofstock.
Emil covers why he wanted to get into real estate and what held him back.
He knew his area of California was too expensive and discovered the idea of long-distance real estate.
Roofstock gave him the tools and confidence to make his real estate dreams a reality. Then a couple of years later he actually joined the company and is here today to walk us all through his journey and what Roofstock could bring to the community.
Listen, learn, and let us know what you think.
Episode Summary
Emil's Background
Emil was instilled with values early from his frugal parents
In high school, he got interested in stocks and started self investing
At the time he was picking individual stocks but doesn't advise that
He luckily had a friend who was like a child genius with stocks
When heading out for college he needed a car and sold his stocks to purchase one
In college, he studied economics
His first job would be aggregating data on pharmaceutical companies
It's clear Emil gets a ton from his time working across a few startups
Emil also stresses the importance of Networking
It would ultimately lead to his job at Roofstock
Emil's Journey to Roofstock
Emil became a user of Roofstock in 2017
At the time the company wasn't at a point to bring on remote workers
He would continue to send marketing materials to Roofstock that he thought the could use
Over time Roofstock opened up remote positions and he went to work with them
Emil had a strong connection to the company because he always wanted to invest in real estate
His dad actually had been investing in real estate for a long time
The problem for Emil was the prices that were near him
So he got interested in remote real estate
That's where Roofstock came in to save the day
He now has several properties over multiple states including Florida and Indiana.
He bought his first home in 2017 for $84k in Jacksonville with an original rent of $900
The property had a new roof and HVAC so it almost turn-key
Today it is renting for $954
He also has never had to change tenants
Total cash-flow has been $8,200
Appreciation has also increased the property value by $26k
Roofstock Details
Roofstock links you up with preferred property managers
You're not required to use them but you're not forced to find someone
Roofstock makes their money during the sale of the homes
It's actually a great deal for both the buyer and seller
The seller ends up paying 2.5% vs a standard 6% for the sale
Then the buyer pays $500 but gets a ton of support
Beyond the property manager help, they also have preferred lenders
Emil scans Roofstock to find states with good returns
Then he looks for states that have landlord-friendly laws to avoid squatters
He also recommends job and population growth
Most properties have an inspection report
This inspection report also comes with an estimate to get it rent-ready
Then you can leverage the property manager to find a trusted contractor
Roofstock Guarantees
If you're not happy with a purchase, roofstock will help you sell it
If it's not sold after 90 days, roofstock actually buys it back
They also have a rent guarantee
This kicks in if you can't rent a property after 45 days
After that point, Roofstock will pay 75% of rent
It does require some things on your end
You're using a preferred property manager
The home is rent ready
Rent isn't set at an unreasonable level
Free to Sign Up
Yep, Roofstock is 100% free to sign up
You only need an account for certain functionalities, but still free
Currently, they service residential only but up to 4 unit properties
Key Takeaways
Everything gets disrupted: It's awesome to see a service like this trying to take something traditional and put a unique twist on it.
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04 Feb 2020 | Managing Goals and Avoiding Mediocrity | Jillian Johnsrud from Everyday Courage | 00:45:30 | |
Today's episode is an awesome chat with Jillian from the Everyday Courage Podcast.
As a young adult, Jillian had huge goals in life to adopt children, travel the world, and hit financial independence.
Then, Jillian hit all these things by the age of 32.
While it is amazing to hit goals early, it can leave you devoid of a north star.
Now she is helping others through coaching and this podcast to find their own goals and push themselves Especially those parts of our lives where we settle and tell ourselves that 'it's ok" or "it's good enough".
"Avoiding the 6's" as she calls it.
Listen, learn, and let us know what you think.
Episode Summary
Jillian's Background
Jillian got married at age 19
She saw from an early age that money gave you options
They started off their marriage with $55k worth of debt
From the start, they always stuck to a goal to save 50%
They made some difficult choices like living in a camper or roommates
They would end up investing and buying rentals
This would lead them to be financially independent at age 32
Their goal was certainly never that early in the beginning
Jillian credits her small-town upbringing for her strong work ethic
She also notes that hard work gave here control she craved
Her home life was rough at times and out of control
Everyday Courage Podcast
Jillian discusses how we typically see courage as huge events
In reality, there are moments every day where we can do courageous things
Success is like this too where there are small wins all around us
She warns against having peak experiences with unfulfilling large gaps between
Then we start talking about success
She breaks down how success is so different for everyone
Jillian talks about how to keep going once you met all your goals
She thought she had a lifetime of goals but hit them by 32
She talks about the amount of reflection that takes
Jillian also describes how luxuries become necessities as you grow
Now she has big goals that have no time limit
She explains the importance of imagining yourself as the person who has met your goals
Then think about what gaps exist between that person and who you are now.
Avoiding the 6s
When we're in a situation that's a 2 out of 10 there's little risk
As in, if you quit a job that's a 2, how much worse could the next job be in comparison
Then if it's an 8+ it's where we want to be
The problem comes in the "good enough" are of the 6
Doesn't everyone struggle with fitness, relationships, work/life balance, etc
When pressed on these situations they feel like "it's ok"
Jillian urges people to not settle into these 6s
She tries to focus in on things that people hesitate around
Finding the things in your life that you procrastinate around
Then understand where that resistance is coming from
Mostly being aware of the resistance and having the curiosity to solve it
The layout of the podcast
The show is set up in seasons around a theme and interview
They are set up to be really short listens
There will also be a workbook where people can follow along
Episodes are only 6-20 minutes long
One episode comes out every week
The seasons are wrapped up in two-month chunks
Key Takeaways
Courage every day: Jillian's premise is that we all have things in our lives that we can work towards every day that takes a little courage.
Define your success: Don't let someone else set your goals for you because even if you meet them you won't be fulfilled.
Luxuries to necessities: Jillian explains how coaching or retreats may be luxuries at first but as you continue they can become necessary to your growth
Call to Action
Find a "6" in your life and push yourself to make progress in that area and not settle.
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11 Feb 2020 | Job Hopping for Raises and Retiring at 30 | A Purple Life | 00:48:36 | |
Today's episode is an awesome chat with Purple from A Purple Life.
Purple has an awesome story and she hits a giant milestone of retirement at age 30 this year.
She covers how she continued to jump jobs in a way to increase her salary 3x while raising job satisfaction.
Listen, learn, and let us know what you think.
Episode Summary
Purple Beginnings
Purple was introduced to financial independence by her partner
However, she didn't listen to his advice for two years
She felt she had things in order to retire in her 50s
Her mom actually retired in her 30s
Purples mom also helped build financial understanding
She would give purple $1 for chores but remove taxes first
Purple talks about being frugal in high school and college
Her degree was in American Studies
She ended up landing a job in advertising
Then New York happened
She said she was brainwashed there
Expensive heels and purse subscriptions ensued
Job Hopping
Her first New York job paid about $35k
She was also super unhappy and stressed
Purple quit that job without another one lined up
She was hired in a couple of weeks with a promotion and $13k raise
That made her realize how much she could leverage job offers
The next job was another $17k raise which put her up to $65k
Then she looked to start dropping her expenses
This would take her out to Seattle which was half the cost of Manhattan
Job hops would continue until her salary today of $110k
In total, she had 3x her income and cut living costs in half between rent and taxes
FIRE Ignites
It started clicking that these voices like Mr. Money Mustache were actually realistic
She got a lot more serious about all her line items
A big one she calls out is learning to cook
After things settled, she realized she could and will retire at 30
Her Why of FIRE
She doesn't want to be held to a schedule... that simple
Purple doesn't hate her job and even gets to work from home
She also plans to stop renting and slow travel all over the world
Purple admits she doesn't know if being a nomad will be for her
Her target date is September 2020
Why her Journey works
Never owned a car
Doesn't want a house
Will not have children
Started investing early
Only spends $18k per year
Net-worth
2015 - $89k
2016 - $137k
2017 - $234k
2018 - $280k
2019 - $448
Projected $500k at retirement
She's super flexible
Un-productivity Advocate
Purple is a hard worker and type-A
But she recognizes too many people equate being busy as successful
There's no strong desire with her for a side hustle
It's important for her as an introvert to take time and recharge
She does, however, plan on continuing her blog
And she also uses the app Job Spotter to make some money on the side
Key Takeaways
Leverage Yourself: You make $x today but that doesn't mean it's what you're worth. Don't underestimate your value.
Compounding is Strong: Purple started not making a ton and living in a very expensive place but now she's retiring at 30. It worked because she started early and just kept saving.
Busy isn't required: Purple calls out how we don't have to inject stress, plans and work into our lives, that it's ok to just relax.
Call to Action
Take a look at your skills and how they could fit in a different role or company that allows you to up your salary.
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18 Feb 2020 | Debt Paydown, Tracking Expenses, & Financial Independence | Rebecca from My Fat Purse | 00:38:37 | |
Today's episode features Rebecca from My Fat Purse.
She breaks down how she and her husband paid down his $180k student loan debt in just 2 years.
Rebecca and her husband gave up pensions from the military and are poised to hit FI in 5 years.
She talks about how powerful tracking their spending and avoiding lifestyle inflation was to this journey.
Listen, learn, and let us know what you think.
Episode Summary
Rebecca's background
She started taking her finances seriously after marriage
Rebecca's husband came into the marriage with $180k of debt
They paid that debt off in 2 years
Rebecca graduated without any student loan debt thanks to the military
She studied mathematics for her bachelors
Then she got paid by the Air Force to get her masters
Paying Down $180k Debt
Rebecca attributes tracking expenses as the most powerful force to paying off debt
They put all of one salary completely towards debt
She also calls out how important it was to avoid lifestyle inflation
That refers to slowly spending more money over time
Rebecca's husband was also in the Air Force
He was supposed to be on scholarship but ended up losing on it
She covers that tough decision on giving up a pension and chasing FI
Life After the Military
Her husband took a slight hit in income and she saw a raise
Rebecca stuck with working for the military as a contractor
Her husband decided to completely change up his job
They now have control over where they live but decided to stay in Colorado
This was mostly due to her husband's job and ease for her to find a good job
Path to FI
They have purchased two homes
One is their primary residence
The other was for renting out on Air BnB
That experiment didn't turn out well so they sold it
Outside of their primary residence, they keep it simple with a three-fund portfolio
Rebecca feels they are five years away from financial independence
Next Rebecca walks through why and how they combined finances
They do keep separate accounts for some flexible spending
Budget Tracking
Rebecca really emphasized tracking spending and how she does it
She started with Mint
Recently she transitioned to an app called EveryDollar
She also has built a very robust tracker you can download
Key Takeaways
True Partnerships: Rebecca didn't put all the debt payoff on her husband, she knew that their goals were tied together and decided to help
Tracking not budgeting: People often think you have to set limits on yourself when in reality, simply knowing where your money goes is the first step
Not all real estate is gold: Just a nice reminder that while real estate is extremely powerful, it's not foolproof as Rebecca found out
Call to Action
Take some time and completely track your expenses for 1-3 months even if you've done so in the past. This can help make sure you fully understand where all your money is headed.
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25 Feb 2020 | Setting Your Financial Goals for 2020 | 00:31:06 | |
In today's episode, you'll hear from just your Hosts! That's right, no guests today, but plenty of voices will be heard.
This episode is covering the 2020 goals we sourced from our Community Facebook Page.
In today's episode, the guys share with you the powerful goals The FI Show group set for 2020.
As always the Community Facebook Page has set the bar high and brought us some impressive ambitions that we can't wait to follow and help motivate!
As always the hosts will also be transparent with their financial goals for 2020.
Hopefully, you enjoy this special episode!
Listen, learn, and let us know what you think.
Episode Summary
Goals from various community members
345 bench / 445 squat / 515 deadlift
Add $100k to their net-worth
Visit 15 new countries
Publish a second book
Finalize estate plan
Quit jobs and fix up Air BnBs
Pay off student loans
Buy first house hack
Positive net-worth
Attend 2020 FinCon
Complete triathlon
Make $35k from rentals
Buy replacement commuter car
Put extra $12k towards mortgage
Payoff house
Zero consumer debt
Max out IRAs
The Hosts Share Their 2020 Goals
Justin
Finish a half marathon length spartan race
Put $100k into the stock market
Make $1800 selling blood / blood cells
Link To Learn More - Tell them Justin sent you!
Finish 2012 Ford Transit camper-van conversion
Have an 80%+ savings rate
Hit his FI Number ($550k)
Cody
Get to his lowest body fat % of his life
Buy a house hack
Invest $50k into retirement accounts
Take one memorable trip every month
Volunteer more
Push himself and take a risk
Podcast
Get an A-list celebrity / athlete on the show
Double listeners and community members
Hit the road and meet the community in person
Key Takeaway
This community is ambitious: We were amazed to see how strong some of these goals were but based on the 2019 progress, we know they are going to hit them.
Call to Action
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03 Mar 2020 | Learning How to Bounce Back From Your Failures | Josh Overmyer | 00:39:10 | |
Today's episode features Josh Overmyer from JoshOvermyer.com
Josh lost his job and a major chunk of his home value in 2009.
That would force him back under his parents' roof for two years.
Luckily he turned things around and discovered FI but it wasn't all roses.
Josh takes us through that whole journey including bouncing back from failures with precious metals, penny stocks and peer to peer lending.
Listen, learn, and let us know what you think.
Episode Summary
Josh's background
Grew up in small-town Indiana
Dad worked in a factory, Mom works as HR manager both 20+ year careers
First in his family with a 4-year degree
He majored in Urban development
Moved down to Fort Myers Florida in 2005
The Great Recession Hits
Then the recession hit and work came to a halt
Then in July 2009, he lost his job
Josh then moved back home to stay above water
He had bought a house that saw its value get severely lowered
Josh had to keep up a low-cost lifestyle for two years
He averaged $19k in spending
Josh would move out of his parents' house in 2011
Bumpy Path to FI
Then he started finding FI/RE bloggers like J Money
Josh eventually found a job in grant administration
Then Josh starts talking about the failures he’s learned from
These include investing in precious metals, penny stocks, and peer to peer lending
Hitting His Stride
Josh would land a new job back down in Florida
At the exact same time, he would start driving for Uber
He just kept saving and saving
July of 2017 he started maxing out his 457
Over his 3.5 years working in Florida he would start at 30% and ramp-up
Josh then covers all the activities he takes place in the FI community
In his day to day life, he doesn’t have people to talk about Finance with
But through FinCon and CampFI he has found his people
He has also credited Travel Rewards as the biggest game-changer for him
The whole 3.5 years he worked he didn’t have vacation so he saved points
Now he’s utilizing those points and recommends the Capital One credit card
Josh then talks about how to hit those minimum spends
Key Takeaways
Life hits hard: Josh never could have seen his world flipped upside down from the recession, but it did and he wasn't prepared
Learning from mistakes: Josh tried several different angles at investing before finding his groove
Stay Positive: Josh is so upbeat about his story and now in a great place and will be ready for the next market challenge
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10 Mar 2020 | When Can I Retire? | Tyson Koska from OnTrajectory | 00:44:46 | |
Today's episode features Tyson Koska from OnTrajectory.
Tyson joined the Army when he didn't have enough money to go to the college he wanted.
Later, he would end up with an English and Philosophy degree which didn't land him a job.
He fell back on an old skill of programming and up-skilled his way into eventually making six figures.
Listen, learn, and let us know what you think about Tyson's amazing turnaround.
Episode Summary
Tyson's background
From a young age, he had jobs and tried to make his own money
His goal has always been to be independent
When it was time to go to college his parents offered to help
But for them to do so he would have to live at home
Instead, he decided to join the Army and became a helicopter pilot
Tyson admitted he made a lot of missteps when he first started working
He blew all his money and racked up credit cards
Reinventing and Up-Skilling
He left the military in 1992
In the end, he would end up in that little local college after all
Tyson decided to study English and philosophy
Those majors didn't provide any job prospects
Tyson fell back on his old skill of programming that he learned at age 13
This spun into a job and a pipeline for up-skilling
Over that stint, he would climb from $30k income to over $100k
His income was increasing but so was his spending
Tyson says that was largely due to marrying the wrong person
Then we discussed what really flipped the switch for him
He recalls a friend who wanted to open a McDonald's
His friend said he needed $100k to do so
That sounded like a ridiculous amount of money to him but inspired him
Creating OnTrajectory
Another big turning point was when his second kid was on the way
There was so much unknown and he couldn't find a tool to help him plan for them
This need led him to build OnTrajectory
Now he sees both individuals and advisory firms using the tool
It's also available for a free 30-day trial with no credit card needed to sign up
Then Tyson walks us through all the incredible detail you can get from the app
There are walkthroughs on YouTube as well as several guides
It's a really cool tool that allows you to insert tons of complicated life events into your projections
Key Takeaways
Mistakes Happen: Tyson calls out several missteps but he learns from them instead of dwelling on them
Life is Complicated: OnTrajectory was born out of this idea to model all the crazy life events we can run into
Call to Action
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17 Mar 2020 | Starting a Six-Figure Food Tour Company | Christine Hughey | 00:47:48 | |
Today's episode features Christine Hughey who owns A Little Local Flavor food tour business.
Christine navigated several cities and years to land her dream job in Nashville.
Then shortly after, Christine would be celebrating a new marriage and devastated by their household income dropping from $120k to $35k.
At the bottom, she took a challenge to start her own business and in no time had created a six-figure food tour company that is growing at leaps and bounds.
Listen, learn, and let us know what you think about Christine's amazing turnaround.
Episode Summary
Christine's background
She feels like she had a better than average financial understanding growing up
Christine would go visit who are Grandmother who tasked them with tracking stock prices
Her Grandmother would also buy them small stocks in companies they understood
It gave them something to chat about over their times apart
Christine admits that she took all those lessons for granted until much later
When it was time to go to college, Christine wanted to get into the print industry
This ended up requiring her to get an engineering degree at the college she was at
From there she moved to Colorado and got a job she did not enjoy
Journey Towards FI
In 2006 she is making around $35k per year and saving around $200 per month
She also realized a true engineering job wasn't going to be there for her in Denver
From there she moved to a small town in Texas for a few years
Then her dream job opened up in Nashville, TN
Things Begin to Fall Apart
We're now entering 2013 on the journey and Christine is hitting her groove
Until she is shocked to find out that she'll be losing that dream job quickly after starting
Leading up to this, they had tried to push more and more work on her with no increased pay
Christine's husband helped her through this down period
Then she got a new contract for a dream job as an engineer and things were looking up
Then six weeks after their honeymoon, that new contract got pulled and she was unemployed
On top of this, her husband lost his largest income-generating gig
Six weeks after their honeymoon they saw their pay get cut from $120k to $35k
They started cutting all expenses and downsizing their house
Christine admits that the whole experience was crushing
She vowed to never let one company be the source of her income
The turnaround
Christine finally finds work at a food tour company in Nashville
The hours are long and the pay had gotten cut in half
Then January 2018 happened and her life completely changed
This was when she attended her first financial independence event
Christine attended CampFI down in Florida
At the conference, she was challenged to start her own food tour company
When she got home, she quit her job and started her own business that May
This was the start of A Little Local Flavor
Building a Six-Figure Business
Christine admits she was out of her comfort zone
What got her through was just taking one small step every day
Most of her education came from podcasts
It took some time for her to shed being an engineer as her identity
As she built her team she had several keys she wanted to hit
Some things she wanted was to fair pay, have strong values, and a good work environment
She then layers in lots of bonuses into her employees' pay
This small step really incentivizes them to do great work
By the end of 2018, they had over $60k in sales
But then 2019 grew like crazy
She grew her team to include 8 employees
They also saw the number of visitors grow to 4400 and sales to $330k
With that, they took home 23% as profit
Christine expects to grow that margin and increase tour types and locations
Her 2020 goal is $500k for the company
She also hopes to be able to scale back her involvement
Key Takeaways
Social Currency: Christine talks about how to put ou... | |||
24 Mar 2020 | Realizing the Positives During Negative Times | 00:31:25 | |
In today's episode, you'll hear from your hosts only. Hopefully, you find some comfort in today's episode during this uncertain time.
This episode is covering the Coronavirus, how it impacts us mentally, physically, and financially even if we're lucky enough to avoid getting sick.
These are certainly tough times but we hope there are some bright spots you can use as motivation to get through this.
We don't know how long this could last, so let's get through this prepared and together.
Listen, learn, and let us know what you think.
Episode Summary
Topics Covered in Todays Podcast Focusing on Coronavirus and FI
We start off covering current correction
We’re currently at late 2016 levels
Then talk through scenarios if you pulled out of the market in 2008 and stayed out for X number of years
Even if you invested at the height of the market (September 2008), your annualized, inflation-adjusted return as of March 2020 is 4.5%
Federal tax filing deadlines and payments extended to July 15 (including estimated quarterly payments)
Cover importance of having an emergency fund
Briefly touch on unemployment benefits
Share our thoughts on if we get stimulus checks, what you could do with it
Go over side hustling / extra income ideas
We look at how you can support local businesses and yourself
Do you have tech skills? Help companies go digital as a consultant
Share our opinions on stopping the spread of the virus (incubation period, social distancing, etc.)
Give insight into our own personal impacts with travel etc
Brainstorm some low cost/ free hobbies you can do online
Help you see how Zoom/Skype tech can replace happy hours and social events
Emphasize fitness while quarantined
Try to highlight the money you'll be saving during a quarantine
Then look to share some potential escapes you can still do that are quarantine friendly
Running
Camping
Biking
Photography
Road trips
We go into over-preparing, mentally and financially, for the potential that life remains in an altered state for many months
Finally, we remind you that now is the perfect time for projects you've been putting off, now is the perfect time to accomplish
Key Takeaways
This could take time: We have to plan both mentally and financially for uncertain times to consider for many months.
Silver Linings: It's certainly not a situation any of us want to be in, but what can we do to come out of this as strong as possible?
FI is here to stay: There are voices out there calling for the end of FI, but there will never be a reason to stop aligning your spending to your values, living responsibly, and educating yourself on finances.
Call to Action
Really think through and put together a plan for how you can last 8+ months living in this way that covers you financially, emotionally, and physically
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31 Mar 2020 | Cutting Expenses After Beating the Income Game | Dustin Mathews from WealthFit | 00:44:46 | |
Today's episode features Dustin Mathews from WealthFit.
Dustin worked for and built several businesses.
Some of these businesses had huge incomes and expenses but Dustin found himself without a ton to show for it.
Then Dustin discovers FI and starts radically changing how he lived and starts spreading financial advice himself.
Listen, learn, and let us know what you think about Dustin's amazing turnaround.
Episode Summary
Dustin's Journey to FI
He attributes Rich Dad Poor Dad as his entry into FI
Most of his work / finance life was around building a business and selling it
He started out with some startups but then decided to create his own business
Dustin admits he didn't mind racking up debt for these businesses
He attributes his entrepreneur spirit from his mom
Dustin's First Business
As part of a mastermind, he found someone who could use some marketing help
The business was selling courses around lines of credit for businesses
A big recommendation Dustin give is doing lots of small changes and testing along the way.
After Discovering FI
He walks us through the tough conversations with his wife
Dustin also said that for tracking expenses, a google sheet stuck with him where fancy apps didn't
Then Dustin got the opportunity to go work for Wealthfit
Stepping Back to His Six-Figure Courses
He starts getting involved in product launches which were very profitable
Then he starts a seminar business around teaching others to do product launches
These seminars could bring in over $1M a year
That would be over $250k over three days
It's important to remember that was gross income
The business kept sprawling with more expenses
On top of that, Dustin was spending all his money without worrying about saving
Teaching Others From His Mistakes
When Dustin got the opportunity to work at Wealthfit he was excited
Excited to help others avoid mistakes he made with his businesses and personally grow
He calls Wealthfit the Netflix of personal finance
They have courses and materials around both personal finance and entrepreneurship/side hustles
We wrap up with Dustin sharing how he landed Dennis Rodman on his podcast
Key Takeaways
Easy Come, Easy Go: It's awesome to grow your income but you need both intentional spending and income in order to make progress
Lift others with your mistakes: We loved how Dustin brings his knowledge and opens up about his failures in a way to help others
People can change: Dustin has felt what it's like to live a life full of expenses and huge incomes but the FI message still resonated eventually
Call to Action
Slow down a little if you still haven't found your purpose and re-evaluate that your money and effort are aligned with your goals.
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07 Apr 2020 | From FatFIRE to LeanFIRE in a Month | Robert from Stop Ironing Shirts | 00:51:04 | |
Today's episode features Robert from Stop Ironing Shirts.
Robert worked his way up the sales career path.
Then in 2019, he retired with over 28x his annual expenses.
Fast forward to today and he saw that shrink to 18x his expenses.
People often always wonder what it would be like if they retired just before a crash.
Now you have the opportunity to see how that looks first hand.
Listen, learn, and let us know what you think about Robert's wild ride.
Episode Summary
Robert's Journey to FI
Robert didn't have much money growing up
He started noticing the people around him who did
Then he tried to reverse engineer how they got there
He contrasts how his grandparents had a structured career path and his parents didn't
His dad did end up in sales which is where Robert first found the career path
Robert Finds His Career
He graduated high school in 2000
Robert thought he'd go into computer programming
That quickly changed when he hated programming
Then he got a department store job celling cell phones
This made him realize sales was for him
Robert goes over how sales have no politics or ambiguity in pay
It also means that you can make as much as you can perform
Robert Experiences His First Crash
Robert talks about his experience with the 2008 crash
He talks about how his 401k was less than his contributions even with company match
Then he talks about how you just have to keep plugging away when it's dropping
Your earnings in a savings account simply can't keep up with inflation
Robert Discovers FI
He talks about the life decisions he made once he discovered the FI movement in 2013
The canceled fancy hotels and tried to do some of their own home renovations
Some of those changes didn't pan out but the overall path was clear for them
They looked and felt like they could retire around 5 years from that moment
In 2015 he had a good job opportunity and it locked him into three more years
The timing worked out pretty well but pulling the trigger was still scary
Crash Take 2
Robert now talks us through what life has been like during this latest crash
He went from Fat FIRE to Lean Fire in one month
Robert had also taken on a little side gig but was let go because of the turndown
He says at this point you just have to give up control
By this he means, just stay the course and don't do anything rash
Robert also gives us insight into which individual stocks may or may not be favorable as we come out of this crash
Especially focusing on companies that are getting bailouts which hinder investors
And rest easy, Robert says he's nowhere near considering full-time work
Key Takeaways
Sell Your Salary: Robert walks us through the high earning potential that sales brings
Trust the Process: Losing 10x your annual expenses in a month can be disturbing but Robert isn't giving up on the process
Call to Action
Research some companies you're interested in, you don't have to make any individual stock purchases but it can be a fun exercise to vet companies that you may be interested in.
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14 Apr 2020 | How to Adopt a Frugality Mindset | Gina from The Frugal Convert | 00:44:16 | |
Today's episode features Gina from The Frugal Convert.
Gina has a powerful story of being alone and broke at age 19 with a child to take care of.
She didn't let her circumstances define her and took control of her life.
Then over time, things began to slip again and she realized she needed to change at a more conscious level.
Now she's a full-fledged frugal convert and closing in on financial independence.
Listen, learn, and let us know what you think about Gina's wild ride.
Episode Summary
Gina's "Jar of Pickles" Moment
Gina found herself 19, newly married, and pregnant and totally broke.
Her then-husband took her phone, car, credit cards...everything
She was hungry and alone in her home and had nothing to eat but pickles
Then she found herself on the floor crying
Gina then started going through all the bad decisions she'd made in her life that led to this
But then she decided she could take control
She divorced him and life moved on
Now she's married to the man of her dreams
Gina takes steps back again
Things were going well for a while after her wake-up moment
Then Gina got comfortable and started racking up credit card debt
She and her husband were happy and well employed but her habits hadn't changed
Then they found themselves in over $100k in debt
Earlier in life, she had racked up debt
She had done this because her rent was $1150, she was going to college, had a kid, and only earned $1200 per month
Gina would get a loan to consolidate her debt but then keep racking up more with the new limit
Making Habits Stick
Gina realized that she would have to really change her habits to turn her life around
Her first step was to start really tracking her spending
It wasn't cold turkey, she just lowered the frequency of disposable spending
Eating out once a week instead of three times a week, etc
She admits she tried to make a budget before she tracked her spending
That is generally a big mistake and leads to failure
Without a point in time, it is hard to make reasonable projections
She also says that a budget should be a living document
It can't be something you set and never adjust
Gina utilizes an excel spreadsheet and breaks it into four categories
The first is survival - food, utilities, rent
The second is debt
The third is extras - Netflix, eating out, etc
The fourth is fun money - even if you still have some debt to pay off
Redefining Frugality
It's not about deprivation, it's about reprioritization
It is fun and rewarding to be frugal
You become picky about what you spend your money on and only focus it on things you're excited about
She also began to realize that she was actually just buying things because it was a habit
It wasn't that she needed them or even wanted them long term
Now she's much more into decluttering and keeping things simple
Finally, Gina walks us through how this is all possible in Los Angeles
She also shares budgeting with her kids
They don't feel deprived, they are just getting educated and comfortable with money
Leaving A Legacy
She really wants to follow her passions full time and step away from traditional work
Gina also wants to get more into real estate and having extra streams of income
In 2007 they had bought a condo, then the 2009 crash happened
Her husband lost his job because it was tied to the mortgage industry
She was furloughed due to the turndown
So her focus will be on diversifying their income streams
Her real passion is going out and being hands-on with moms in the welfare
She wants to develop programs they can use to take control of their finances
Key Takeaways
When Life Hands you Lemons: Gina had every right to be down on life and never crawl out of her low spots, but she always learned and improved herself.
Behind Every Paycheck is a Passion: Gina acknowledges that her day to day job isn't he... | |||
21 Apr 2020 | Creating the Next Generation of Financially Literate Citizens | Rob Phelan | 00:42:59 | |
Today's episode features Rob from The Simple Startup.
Rob had an interesting childhood were he got most of his early education in Ireland.
This gave him an opportunity to be exposed to unique learning environments that don't typically exist in the United States.
Now Rob is leading by example and teaching his own students these valuable lessons of personal finance and entrepreneurship.
He has also taken it one step further by creating a workbook that can spread these lessons to everyone.
Listen, learn, and let us know what you think about Rob's amazing lessons.
Episode Summary
Rob's Upbringing
Rob feels like he had a lot of great influences early but didn't bite on the advice
In his elementary school in Ireland, he was involved in some saving focused programs
About two years ago he started getting involved with teaching financial literacy with younger kids
Rob was born in the United States but was in Ireland most of his life until age 21
He comments that you don't see the drive for FI in Ireland that he's seen here
We discuss differences in pension systems and wages between Ireland and America
How Rob Became a Teacher
He had several options to choose from between sports medicine, architecture, and teaching
Rob mostly went with teaching because he got the summer off and he loves getting outdoors
Even the subject he was going to teach just sort of fell into place
Rob actually started teaching in 2014
Taking Money to the Next Level
Rob admits his wife was better with money when they first met
That gap he was noticing drove him to take money more seriously
Within 12 months of marriage, they paid off all of their $20k of debt
After his debt was paid off, he started focusing more on financial independence
Origins of Rob's Love for Entrepreneurship
Rob's high school in Ireland offered him a gap year that is all around self-development
His business teacher made them actually start their own businesses
The kids were in charge of the full cycle
Rob says it was basically the Lean Startup Model
Finding something that can be started with resources you already have on hand
That first business was selling baked goods which sold at school
They profited about 500 Euros
The group actually had their own custom stall and custom aprons
Educating the Next Generation of Financially Literate Citizens
Rob asks his students on a skill they'd like to learn but never have
Then he challenges them to learn that skill without his help and prove their mastery of it
Something like changing the oil in a car and creating a YouTube video teaching others to do the same
Then he started a club called The Millionaires Club
This club is fully self-funded without fundraising
They get their money via business they run themselves and can keep 10% of the earnings
As he started building out resources and structures for this he decided he should build a workbook
This workbook is an actionable workbook that's very interactive and not just something you read
He calls it a how-to guide around starting your first business
It's really targeting teens and young adults
This workbook covers the full lifecycle
Finding a need, building the business, handling the finances, and pitching it to others
Key Takeaways
The Lessons are versatile: Whether it's business, personal finance, or responsibility -- these type of lessons can apply and improve lives in many areas
Think outside the box: Rob didn't let what a teacher normally does define what he was going to do with his students and is seeing the results
Call to Action
If there is a young person in your sphere of influence that you can encourage to try a project or a small business, then help push and guide them through that experience. If not, try a self inspection and consider starting up a trial run of a business with extremely low startup costs to see if it's something yo... | |||
28 Apr 2020 | How to Make Money in the Rideshare Economy | Harry Campbell from The Rideshare Guy | 00:50:15 | |
Today's episode features Harry from The Rideshare Guy
Harry started down a very traditional path -- an engineer in a cubicle.
Then in 2014, he started moonlighting as an Uber & Lyft driver.
He started a blog and began sharing real data that helped drivers know the Do's / Don'ts and ultimately how to make more money.
Today, his blog has an insanely large following and it continues to expand into more and more areas.
He's also launched a course, Maximum Ridesharing Profits, to teach new side hustlers how to take advantage of the rideshare economy.
Listen, learn, and let us know what you think about Harry's amazing ride.
Episode Summary
Harry's Journey to Side Hustling
Harry remembers when he realized he could sell chips from his lunch as a kid
His lesson was that when people want to pay for something you need to find a way to accept it
Harry took a fairly traditional route career-wise
He got an engineering job and worked the cubicle environment
But Harry was used to entrepreneurial ventures
From selling chips to doing laundry, and then driving Uber / Lyft on the side in 2014
Harry then goes over the moment he realized traditional employment just wasn't enough
It was realizing a fellow employee had been working in the same building for 40 years
He was also having a lot of fun driving for Uber / Lyft and making $35-$30 per hour
The pay was higher back then as fewer drivers were available
Finding a Career Via Uber / Lyft
Harry never really wanted to drive for a living but enjoyed the process
So he started The Rideshare Guy
Here he would lay out very clearly and thoroughly all the things you should consider as a driver
The blog started growing and surpassing the money he made in his regular job
It also didn't seem scary because his boss left the door open to return
Frugality and Lifestyle inflation
Harry talks about how he is reasonably frugal but not extremely
He also talks about how some lifestyle inflation is positive
Nothing over the top but things that make his life more comfortable and less stressful
Deeper info on Uber / Lyft and Rideshare Guy
It's important to keep in mind the pros/cons
One big benefit over a similar paying job is the flexibility
It also gives you good practice to balancing accounts for running a business
At the end of the day, all the things on the sites are just logistics
Getting something from point A to point B
He also talks about some of the locally specific gigs
These may pay more and even come with more traditional benefits
Getting the most out of being an Uber/Lyft driver
Harry recommends a used fuel-efficient car, imagine a ~2014 Prius
Then he talks about options that allow you to only do pickup/drop-offs along your route
So you could add this into your normal day
Then Harry talks about liabilities
Different insurances and protections to keep customers from coming after your assets
It's not worth ruining your life over a side hustle if you have a lot of assets
If you don't have much to your name, it's a little less stressful
Another good tip is driving weekend nights and workday commutes
It's also important to keep up with miles to deduct those expenses from your taxes
Check out his course, Maximum Ridesharing Profits, if you're looking for an all-in-one resource to crush the rideshare side hustle game
Beyond Uber / Lyft
Harry notes that most people only drive temporarily
He wanted to start focusing on the jobs these drivers are transitioning to
He's done a lot of coverage on transportation jobs like truck driving/taxi drivers
Then other demand-based jobs that have similar setups
But these are in completely different fields than transportation like a notary of the public
These are all covered under the "Thinking Beyond Rideshare" category
Key Takeaways
Provide Value: Harry was successful because he gave a t... | |||
05 May 2020 | NFL Star Turned Personal Finance Educator | Jed Collins | 00:52:33 | |
Today's episode features the former #1 NFL Fullback and author of Your Money Vehicle, Jed Collins.
Jed had realized his dream of reaching the NFL but with that first big check, came a lot of fear.
Since that point, Jed now embraces fear and shares the lessons he learned with young players and people all over the country on how to take control of their finances.
Listen, learn, and let us know what you think about Jed's amazing ride.
Episode Summary
Jed Collin's Entry to the NFL
Jed talks about his first big check
He knew he'd already spent it all before he even opened it
The money had gone towards an engagement ring for his now-wife
Jed entered the league as an Undrafted Free Agent so the NFL wasn't a given
But Jed had an accounting major so he had a fallback
He talks about how having a fall back plan is actually looked down upon
He also admits that he understood corporate finances but didn't resonate on a personal level
Helping With Rookies
Jed goes to sessions around the combine to educate rookies on personal finance
Some of these rookies struggle with peer pressure around luxuries like cars and jewelry
But a lot of pressure is actually from families that they're now supporting
There are also things like rookie dinners were these young kids are dropping $27k on dinner
And that's for veterans who don't need anyone to buy them a thing
The Rookie minimum is almost $600k now
NFL Members Don't Comprehend What They Make
Players don't comprehend the difference between contract value and take-home pay
The money coming to you is heavily taxed
You also are not guaranteed a spot on the team for the full contract either
There is a pension system for those that make it three years in the league
But this doesn't kick in until 55
It equates to about $500 per month for every year in the league
Mindset Comparisons: Money and Football
Jed was actually cut 13 times
And later in his career, he was named the #1 Fullback in the league
That just shows how unstable it can be for a player in the league
He feels that there are a lot of parallels between someone being successful and life and sports
He also shares stories about Drew Brees that just shows how dedication and process can lead to success
5 associations of money
Jed talks about automating what you do with your money
He breaks it down to 5 money areas or associations
These (not in order) are:
Society aka Taxes
Past Decisions - Rent / Bills / etc
Present Day Actions - Day to day choices
Future Choices - Investing / Saving
Compassion - Donations / Giving
Key Takeaways
Peer Pressure: Jed talks about how powerful peer pressure is and it's obviously not just a concern for kids in school
Strong Minds: We love all the parallels Jed draws between his mindset and process in the NFL to be successful on the outside
Call to Action
Divide your spending up into the 5 associations that Jed discussed and automate where your money goes
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12 May 2020 | Playing with FIRE | Scott Rieckens | 00:55:21 | |
Today's episode features the star of the Playing With Fire documentary, Scott Rieckens.
Scott found himself saving 8% an heading towards a lifestyle that seemed unsustainable.
The FIRE movement showed him that his value/happiness was not aligned with his spending.
Scott and his wife made an amazing transformation and shared it with the world.
Listen, learn, and let us know what you think about Scott's amazing journey.
Episode Summary
Scott's Background
His Dad was in the Navy so he picked up and move many times.
His Mom would always try to pick up a job at the new location
She also handled the bills and investing outside the pension
At a certain point, Scott realized his lifestyle wasn't sustainable
He was trying to take on more and his spending was also increasing
Then he found the FIRE community
That took his focus just from income streams to also include responsible spending
Entrepreneur Focus
Scott found himself laid off three years after college
He and a friend spent three months to put together a business plan
They raised a couple hundred thousand dollars to build an indoor golf center
But as they worked the projections, they ended up scrapping the idea
Then he goes back to the drawing board and back to the small business center for help
When Scott goes there for advice, the advisor realizes Scott has social media experience
In 2009, very few people had this experience and the advisor encouraged him to pursue that route
From then on, he's been an entrepreneur
Scott recommends the book The War of Art for entrepreneurs
Embracing FIRE
Scott recalls the Chautauqua trip in Ecuador with people from the FIRE movement
There he learned that if this didn't work, he'd just be going back to work like everyone else
That realization made him feel much more comfortable with the attempt at hitting FIRE
Scott then breaks down why everyone doesn't embrace a journey of financial independence
Not being in the right place in life or being afraid of what they could uncover
We also talk about the taboo around money
Playing With Fire
Scott's original idea was to go around interviewing people about the movement
Then it swapped to him actually going through the journey and transformation
He talks about how difficult and invasive the documentary
Scott also the moments the camera missed
Now Scott is taking the Playing With FIRE brand into a Podcast
Key Takeaways
Awakening: It's so cool to listen to someone explain the process of totally shifting your outlook on life as Scott did with his spending
Strong Minds: We love all the parallels Jed draws between his mindset and process in the NFL to be successful on the outside
Call to Action
Make a list of the 5 things that you value the most and that brings you the most happiness. Then reflect on what percentage of your budget is spent on items from this list.
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19 May 2020 | Money Coaching as a Business | Whitney Hansen | 00:43:40 | |
Today's episode features a real Money Nerd, Whitney Hansen.
Whitney paid off $30k of debt in 10 months. She also bought a house at 19 and got her MBA for $472.
She started out life with some hardships but that fueled her interest in personal finance.
Now she's taking her lessons and empowering others through financial coaching.
Listen, learn, and let us know what you think about Whitney's awesome insights.
Episode Summary
Whitney's Background
Whitney's parents separated after an abusive relationship
They then moved to Boise in a two-bedroom apartment
Her mom was supporting them with $7.25 of income
This was all to support a family with six children
Whitney tells a story of how excited she was to get a mattress out of the trash
This was when she was 18
Helping Others Save
Some people think they can out-earn bad spending
Whitney's #1 point is to find the values and "why" of the person you're trying to help
Not all tactics are going to resonate with people but leading by example is a great start
She also talks about being relatable
If you only share the wins, it can seem unobtainable
Start of Financial Coaching
Whitney was $30k in debt but working two jobs
She focused and paid off all her debt in 10 months
After that people started hitting her up for advice
That's when she discovered financial coaching
Money Coach vs Financial Advisor
Money Coach's can't tell someone what type of insurance they should buy
They shouldn't tell a client to buy a specific stock
They also shouldn't try to give specific tax advice
Instead, a Money coach should focus on saving, philosophy, and just holding them accountable.
Tips to Becoming a Money Coach
It's important to understand how hard a client is willing to work
It can change how you work with them or if you should work with them at all
You also should start coaching for free or heavily discounted
That way you can see if you really want to do this before getting too invested
Key Takeaways
Pressure makes diamonds: We loved how Whitney took her circumstances and used them as motivation
Speak their language: Whitney talks about resonating with people about money. You have to meet them where they are and not just try to force them into doing things that worked for you.
Call to Action
Take and share financial tips with someone. Try some of the tips Whitney mentioned and really try to resonate with the person.
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This free, easy-to-use portfolio management tool aggregates all of your financial data and helps to track your spending, net worth, and investment accounts. Keeping track of your money has never been easier. With 1.6 million users and growing, this platform is becoming a leader in its industry. We have both been using Personal Capital for years and highly recommend it. Sign up for your free account here!
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Her Website: Whitney Hansen
Her Podcast: The Money Nerds
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26 May 2020 | Regenerative Agriculture Meets Personal Finance | Eddy Garcia & Sam Schiebold | 00:53:08 | |
Today's episode features the most resourceful guests ever, Eddy Garcia & Sam Schiebold from Living Earth Systems.
Eddy and Sam bring a wealth of information on how to re-think how we feed ourselves.
From living on the land to growing tonnage of produce and feeding 20 people from a tiny parking lot.
They are on a mission to inspire and educate the world on how to properly grow and sustain food through plagiarizing nature.
Listen, learn, and let us know what you think about Eddy and Sam's awesome cause.
Episode Summary
Eddy & Sams's Background
Eddy talks about living off the land as a kid in Hawaii on fish and coconuts
An experience that many would pay hundreds of dollars for
That reshaped Eddy's thoughts on wealth
He realized he could acquire more or desire less
At a young age, he also realized giving was really important to him
He never stayed at home and skipped school for surfing
Sam went a more traditional route
This included a Physics degree from a top-10 university
She quickly realized that her degree didn't mean much to her
Sam ended up finding her way to Hawaii and got into a concept of permaculture
Permaculture vs Regenerative Farming
Permaculture is the idea of making a sustainable food source much like a forest
Eddy & Sam practice something different than Permaculture called Regenerative Farming
Eddy gives a history lessons on these methods that stem back from the 70s
He says he just tries his best to just copy nature
This means not bringing in plastics and artificial fertilizers
It also means a lot less human interaction
Patagonia recently released a regenerative farming certificate
Starting Your Own Crop
Eddy calls out a potato as a great starter
These grow in warm or cold climates with little effort
Another option is radishes
Seed to radish is only a 25-day process
He also recommends different types of greens
Eddy also says you can grow a lot of things from organic vegetables
Teaching & Empowering
Eddy and Sam are producing courses and videos on growing
These tackle anything from composting to urban farming
Also helping others overcome a fear of not having a "green thumb"
These are all around a closed-loop methodology
This means not bringing in or taking out materials
That means growing is way cheaper
We also cover how this could work for busy professionals
They also teach classes and make films on-site in Hawaii
This is done on a 170-acre farm in Maui
They also have tours and farm to table dinners
Eddy and Sam are also actively bringing a portion of Maui back from being a trash dump.
Finally, there's also an intern program!
Key Takeaways
Acquire more or desire less: Eddy talks about rethinking how we look at money and how nature plays a huge part in that.
Less with more: It's amazing what Eddy is able to grow in such tiny areas, some as small as an eighth of an acre
Call to Action
Try to grow something. Potatoes, radishes, or an aquaponic system. If you really aren't ready, then find some sustainable sources of food for your next grocery run.
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02 Jun 2020 | Understanding Systemic Oppression and Solving the Marketing Problem | Julien and Kiersten Saunders from rich & Regular | 00:56:25 | |
Today's episode features Julien and Kiersten from Rich & Regular.
The name is a play on Rich & Famous where they talk about how they never want to be disconnected from regular people.
They share their personal and professional journey. Julien and Kiersten also share the unique challenges that face the black community and wealth-building.
Most people can think of white people who are wealthy but not famous, yet when we think of black wealth, we conjure names like Oprah, LeBron, or Obama, and Julien and Kiersten want to show that it doesn't have to be that way.
Listen, learn, and let us know what you think about this incredibly important topic.
Episode Summary
Julien and Kiersten's Background
Julien grew up with a scarcity mindset
This was during the crack era in 1980's Brooklyn
He knew that money existed but never saw it in real life
This led him to believe he could never be rich
Kiersten's background was very different
She grew up in the suburbs of Atlanta
Kiersten says she was comfortable and never worried about money
Julien credits mentors at all stages of his life for his ability to make it in life
He says these people would always push him further
In 2005 he was graduating from Georgia State University and spending time in Europe
This trip changed his world view and made him realize what's possible
Difference's in Spending Come to a Head
Julien and Kiersten go on a vacation to Panama
Julien expected they would really cut back on spending after returning
His focus was on getting the credit card back to zero
Kiersten was on a totally different page
She wasn't looking to slow down spending
This caused some friction but obviously they got through that
Kiersten realized she just always had income coming in so she felt like there was always more
Wealth Disparity of the Black Community
Julien highlights the median net worth of black members of the Boston community
The median net worth at the time was $8
He talks about the problems society we will see as this gap grows
He cautions that there will be violence and crime as people get restless
Julien also quotes a study that project the median net worth of black families in the U.S. will be $0 by 2053
How Do We All Help
Kiersten urges people to support black-owned business
She talks about how this allows you to vote with your dollar
This also trickles down to other families
She says that for any product you can buy at a big store, you can probably buy from a black-owned business
No FIRE Number
Julien doesn't find a lot of value in focusing on a FIRE number
Kiersten jokes that it has bounced around by 100s of thousands
Hitting that number wouldn't radically change how they operate
They're very motivated to keep that number climbing
With this money, they can make more of an impact on social activism
Resonating with the Black Community
Talking about the FI path in a non-linear way
Often times people of color don't have the benefit of predictability
Then we talk about the book The Real Pepsi Challenge
In this, it's highlighted that black people aren't just white people with darker skin
The experiences and interests there are just different
You wouldn't market to a mother of three the same way you would to a man with no children
So it should be familiar that different people need messages in different ways
Julien and Kirsten feel like they're meeting people where they are and speaking to people who haven't been spoken to
Rich and Regular Get Published
They didn't expect to be writing a book this soon
This process has involved agents and a writing coach
There were 13 different versions as they tried to pull this together
Julien describes it as part financial love story, part financial inspiration, and part an invitation to the black community to come to join the FI movement
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09 Jun 2020 | How to Make Money with an Amazon Affiliate Site | Doug Cunnington | 00:51:34 | |
Today's episode features Doug from Niche Site Project.
Doug brings in hundreds of thousands from his affiliate websites.
These sites are those websites we all use to help us decide exactly which brand/version of a product we're looking to buy.
He started off on a traditional route in engineering but with this incredibly successful venture, he just manages these sites and teaches others how to follow in his footsteps.
Listen, learn, and let us know what you think about Doug's awesome episode.
Episode Summary
Doug's Background
Doug's first money experience was around mowing lawns
He wanted to buy a CD player and realized there was a sustainment tail
Doug would also need money to buy the actual CDs
He ended up mowing lawns for another 7 years
But entrepreneurship didn't really take hold
Instead, he went the traditional route
Doug went to college and started his career as an engineer
Doug's Engineering Journey
Out of college, Doug was making $52k per year
He didn't have any financial or savings goals
His wife though was a real saver
She rubbed off on him and he came around
In 2013 the real changing moment happened
He stumbled on a podcast in 2013
This podcast was called The Smart Passive Income Podcast
Entrepreneurship
A month after listening to these shows he started his first gig
Doug decided to start with Amazon affiliate pages
He admits his first few sites weren't great
But after 6 months he was making a few grand per month
That's when he realized that he could quit his normal job
What is an Amazon affiliate site
We've all been searching for a product and looked for help to choose
We ultimately end up on a "Top 5 hard drive" list
Through this list, you click on a link and eventually buy one
That link is specific to that site so the owner gets a commission
You are helped out and they get paid, it's a win-win
SEO is huge to get them there but don't forget to be helpful
Doug also spends some time talking about how he manages his team and sources virtual assistants
He also offers a full course to teach others on how to do this
Key Takeaways
Affiliates are a win-win: These sites help you make an efficient purchase and put money in an entrepreneurs pocket
Keep it simple: Doug laid out his management style and how simple and streamlined it is. As he said, you can always make it more complicated later.
Call to Action
Grab some free resources at nichesiteproject.com/fishow and at least study affiliate links or maybe try to build one yourself.
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23 Jun 2020 | Mastering Passive Income with Real Estate | Dustin Heiner | 00:54:04 | |
Today's episode features Dustin Heiner from Master Passive Income
Dustin vividly remembers a march to the boss with kids waiting at home, knowing he was about to lose his job.
He knew from that day, he needed to build his own income streams away from traditional employment.
30 real estate properties later and he had the freedom he always wanted.
Listen, learn, and let us know what you think about this awesome episode.
Episode Summary
Dustin's Background
Dustin is a serial entrepreneur
Websites, pizzeria, graphic design, and even a skateboard manufacturing gig
He refers to a traditional job as "Just Over Broke"
During this journey, he stumbled upon real estate investing
His first one was profiting $350 per month and he was hooked
Dustin learned the hard way
There weren't any good courses or coaches out there at the time
He talks about how much he learned from his mistakes
Breaking Away from Tradition
Dustin also went to college just because it was what he felt like he should do
This led to a ten-year career in IT at a government agency
He walks us through the fearful moment when he realized he didn't want to rely on someone for employment ever again.
That fearful moment was when Dustin got laid off with 4 children
He did continue to work in IT but he swapped his perspective
From then on, he would introduce himself as a real estate investor
9 years and 30 houses later, he was able to step away from that traditional career
Dustin could have stepped away earlier but admits it is tough to walk away from stability
Dustin's Real Estate Investing
Dustin started out living in California
Prices didn't make sense there so he looked out of state
He was investing in Ohio, Texas, etc
Out of all the houses he's purchased, he's only traveled to see one in person
This requires a network of people you can trust
The key here is the property manager, they are the quarterback
His requirement for a house is a minimum of $250 per month profit
We also talk about renting vs owning
401ks & Real Estate Investing
Dustin talks about cashing out or borrowing from 401k to buy real estate
He actually doesn't like investing 401ks at all
This comes off his assumption that he can make so much more from real estate
So his argument isn't that 401ks are intrinsically bad
Common Real Estate Mistakes
Not accounting for paying for a property manager
Not putting back money for repairs
Buying a house with really small margins
Buying a home in an area where everyone is leaving
In general, overestimate expenses and underestimate rental income
Key Takeaways
Your Paycheck is not your value: Companies pay you just what they need to so that you stay but they're as profitable as possible.
Overestimate the bad, underestimate the good: Dustin recommends this mindset when looking at real estate.
Call to Action
Look into real estate as an investment. If your stuck on the fence, especially due to prices in your local area, then do like Dustin did and grab a property manager to invest out of state.
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30 Jun 2020 | 3D Printing as a Side Hustle | Nikko Mendoza | 00:37:48 | |
Today's episode features Nikko from Nikko Industries.
What a cool and unique guest who is on his way to making $250k this year off his 3-D print business.
This business was no easy task as Nikko didn't become a U.S. citizen until he was 25.
What started as Nikko just trying to be an awesome dad, quickly turned into a life-changing money endeavor.
Listen, learn, and let us know what you think about this awesome episode.
Episode Summary
Nikko's Background
Nikko's parents were not good with money
Nikko and his family immigrated to the United States
At a young age, he made a vow that he would not be the same way
He would provide and be smart with his money for him and his children
Due to being an immigrant, he wasn't able to think about college or many things until he was 25
Nikko joins the military after getting married and becoming a citizen
Then he realizes how much more money he could make on the outside
From there he takes a traditional commercial role but keeps an eye on entrepreneurship
Nikko's Entrepreneurial Journey
Nikko talks about all the failures he had along the way
He had so many setbacks that at one point he just quit
But then things turned around for him
He says, When I stopped chasing money, money started chasing me
Nikko says you really have to love what you do to be successful
The business venture that really turned things around for him was 3D printing
Birth of Nikko Industries
Nikko's drive was to find something that helped him enjoy his time with his kids
His son loved things like Thor and Iron Man etc
Nikko came across someone on Instagram who had printed pieces to a costume
He put the 3D printer on the back-burner for a month to make sure he was serious
After a month he couldn't stop thinking about it and bought one
He started by building a community and youtube channel
Then he started looking to actually sell products
Scaling a Business
Nikko admits that he doesn't know how to design these products from scratch
He leverages others to make the designs and market it
His biggest skill is delegation and making sure he's tapping into the right products
His 1st year he made 50k in revenue
2019 his revenue grew to $130k
In 2020 he's on pace to make over $250k in revenue
Most of this revenue is just off of the digital files
He says that he spends about 4 hours per week
And now he's coaching others to build 3D printing businesses
Then a person can take these files and use their own printer to make them
Nikko also has a big focus on giving back
During the Covid outbreak, he was printing free face shields for frontline workers
Key Takeaways
Stop Chasing the Money: Nikko talks about how things started turning around when stop solely focusing on the money.
Maximize Your Skills: Nikko never designs a file yet makes so much money on them, he uses his skills of delegation to the max
Call to Action
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16 Jun 2020 | Building a Loyal Audience and Moving Online | Genecia Alluora from Soul Rich Woman | 00:42:46 | |
Today's episode features Genecia who is the creator of Soul Rich Woman.
Genecia's main goal is to empower women business owners to go from offline to online.
She's proven this over her career with millions in revenue and is sharing that with the 200k+ members of Soul Rich Woman.
You won't want to miss all her advice, especially around the love of F words.
Listen, learn, and let us know what you think about this awesome episode.
Episode Summary
Genecia's Background
At 18 she started with a simple thought of making more in a single hour
She was going to school, working, and teaching as a yoga/dance instructor
So she decided to build a group of instructors were she made a commission off them
Genecia attributes her success to resourcefulness and the people she surrounded herself with
After college, she entered a traditional job in a hospital helping children with learning issues
She realized that she was making way less in a 9-5 than working for herself in college
Then she transitioned to consulting
Offline to Online
In 2013 she transitioned from working offline to online
She made $100k in 3 months
And $1 Million within a year
Then she invested in a cafe retail chain
Helping other Women go Online
The group started just as "Webinar Wednesdays"
And in the beginning, there was no traffic
But she stuck with it and started advertising on Facebook
In the group, she helps instill a growth mindset
The group she started is called "Soul Rich Woman"
The group is over 200k strong!
She talks about women who love "F words"
Fabulous, freedom, financial independence, family
This education and community is available as an annual or monthly service
Genecia also really focuses on marketing and helping businesses get repeat business
Where to focus first
She says to work on your business, not in your business
This means outsourcing tedious work so you can focus on growth
Stay on top of trends
Love the customers first and then create what is good for them
Genecia walks us through a case study of a fitness instructor going online
Key Takeaways
Get Sticky: Genecia talks about retaining customers by always providing value, this makes them come back for more, aka sticky
Leverage the internet: The internet is a force multiplier for not only finding customers but also to augment with employees
Call to Action
Grab $50 and outsource something that is draining you of your time so you can be more productive in areas that really matter
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07 Jul 2020 | Dividend Value Investing and the 12 Rules | Kanwal Sarai | 00:48:25 | |
Today's episode features Kanwal Sarai from Simply Investing.
Kanwal shares with us his unique investing style.
This style is a combination of value investing like Warren Buffet and a focus on dividend payouts.
Kanwal takes our questions in stride and makes some really great points.
Listen, learn, and let us know what you think about this awesome episode.
Episode Summary
Kanwal's Background
Kanwal graduated with a computer science degree at age 24 in 1996
About three years in, he realized traditional work couldn't be a forever path
This was before anyone was calling it "F.I.R.E"
His first side hustle attempt was purified water
Long story short...the side hustle was a flop
Neither of them knew anything about marketing/sales
Building His Own Investment Method
In 2003 Kanwal started developing his own investment strategy
His son was just born and was keeping him up all night
One of those sleepless nights he grabs an investing book and was hooked
At the time he was paying 2.5-3% fees for advisement
His main focus came down to strong dividend-paying companies
He calls it "Dividend Value Investing"
This is a combination of undervalued companies that also pay dividends
12 Part Checklist of Dividend Investing
1. Do you understand the product or service
2. Will people still be using the product/service in 20 years
3. Do they have a low-cost lasting advantage (think Coke's secret recipe)
4. Would you use the product that people would use during a recession
5. Do they have consistent earnings growth
6. Do they have consistent dividend growth
7. Do they have a low payout ratio (dividend vs earnings)
8. Do they have low debt %
9. Do they have a good credit rating
10. Do they actively buy back their shares
11. Is it under or overvalued
P/E 25 or less
The current dividend yield is higher than the 10-year average
Price to Book ratio <3
12. Keep your emotions out of investing
Kanwal publishes 227 companies that meet these criteria as part of his Simply Investing Report
Even with all these rules, you still may find a dud
That's why diversification is still so important
Kanwal recommends 25-50 funds
Why Dividend Investing Over Index Investing
Holding the total market (index funds) means that you're going to own some poor quality stocks
Getting cashback in your pocket to diversify instead of simply seeing appreciation in one company
Kanwal reinvests dividends across all his dividend stocks and not right back into the company that originally paid it
The average annual yield Kanwal sees from his dividend stocks are 3.5-5%
Key Takeaways
Take The Emotion Out: Kanwal's 12 rules help create a systematic process without being clouded by human emotion
Set Goals, Be Patient: Don't get sucked in to get rich quick schemes, find quality companies and make continual progress.
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14 Jul 2020 | Planting Your Financial Garden | John Soforic | 00:55:09 | |
Today's episode features John Soforic, author of The Wealthy Gardener.
John gives his passionate story of how he went from $200k in debt to over $200k in passive income.
The lessons he learned led to a book he wrote for his son titled The Wealthy Gardner.
The story starts with a stroll through the graveyard but certainly has a happy ending.
Listen, learn, and let us know what you think about this awesome episode.
Episode Summary
John's Background
John takes a walk when he was 30
He just goes walking in his town
Then he walks into a graveyard and sat there for a half-day
John was just contemplating life
He had two kids, long hours, and $200k in student debt
Then he read a book called "How to Think and Grow Rich"
Then he set a goal to have $240k in passive income before the age of 50
Fast forward and John retired at age 49
He would then go on to write The Wealthy Gardner as a way to communicate the lessons he learned to his son
Building His Passive Income
Step one was leveraging all 112 waking hours and not just 40
He was working 40 hours in his clinic and 30 hours outside
Then he started educating himself on real estate
John also hired teams to help him
That allowed him to have 500 hours of work a week to his goals
This included buying 8 duplexes at once
It was an incredible deal where he got them at half price
He was able to do this because he offered to buy them all
The sellers were part of an estate and looking for quick cash
The Wealthy Gardener Book
John wrote the book in hopes that his 19 yr old son would be influenced by it
He convinced him to be his editor to make some money
During the process, John asked him to argue points with him
Today his son is 25 and saving over 50% of his income so it seems to have worked
He also fought to keep spirituality into the book to keep it true to him
John originally self-published and book that has now been translated into three languages
Key Takeaways
Leverage: John created so much leverage through teams and real estate which allowed him to unlock his earning potential
Stay True to You: I loved how John is open about his beliefs and how he didn't let the prospect of money change them
Call to Action
Investigate passive income streams. Don't get stuck thinking only on huge goals -- just start small and start soon.
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21 Jul 2020 | Putting The FI in Fitness | James Lowery | 00:56:01 | |
Today's episode features James Lowery from Rethink The Rat Race
James is a repeat offender back from episode 36.
In that episode, he dug into his background and how he and his wife retired in their 20's after amassing real estate in just two years.
This episode we dive more into his accomplishments in the health and fitness arena.
From lifting, cardio, diet, and more all through the lens of someone on their FI journey.
Listen, learn, and let us know what you think about this awesome episode!
Episode Summary
James' Background
As a refresh, James and Emily saved heavily
Invested that into real estate properties in Huntsville, AL
Then when they retired, they moved to Cyprus
Obviously COVID-19 had other plans and they had to return to the U.S.
Now they're putting a little effort into some of their rentals
And looking for their next adventure
James' Diet
He refers to his diet as "Freegan"
This is because he's 95% Vegan but will make exceptions
These exceptions are for non-vegan meals that avoid food waste
So if the food is already there and it's free, he'll eat it
James' fitness ventures
James has done bodybuilding competitions, lifting, and helped with physical therapy
He takes some time to break down the positives of each of these
Then we start ways to mix it up because cardio doesn't have to be just running on a treadmill
James loves trail runs, HIIT training, weight lifting, and the huge amount of content out there on YouTube
He recommends you recognize your body can do more than you think but also be careful of going to some extreme right off the start
Keep It Simple
James mentions how entire food groups do not have to be eliminated
Extreme style diets are so hard to be successful with long term
He recommends mostly vegetables / not too much mindset
That just means understanding the calories you have coming in but making veggies the prominent part of your plate
Also don't overthink the amount of weight your lifting
Keep it light if your form starts to slip, don't stress about breaking records
Also, don't forget the simple parts like hydration
Hydration can impact your calorie burning, energy, and cognition
Also don't stress about finding the perfect ratio of Fat/Carb/Protein
Don't Get Intimidated
This journey doesn't have to be expensive
The food costs can be reasonable
James & Emily actually only spend $40/week per person and eat a ton of healthy foods and veggies
Then you don't have to pay a ton for a gym membership
There's plenty you can do at home, outside or for $20/mo at a Planet Fitness
And if you need to earn some extra cash, James actually covers side hustles that are great for your fitness
Also, don't get intimidated with bulking up to fast
Lifting weights doesn't magically make you get bulky
It can be a great way to get toned and burn calories
Key Takeaways
Get Creative: I loved the story of James doing this floor exercise to replace a pull-up movement
It doesn't have to be complicated: Too many people sit on the sidelines because they're looking for the perfect diet or workout plan when simple balanced eating and getting active is an amazing start.
Call to Action
Start a fitness or health challenge with someone. Maybe even put a little money on the line to keep up the motivation.
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28 Jul 2020 | Understanding Leadership, Diversity and Inclusion | Steve Yacovelli | 00:51:29 | |
Today's episode features Dr. Steve Yacovelli, author of Pride Leadership and creator of TopDog Learning Group.
Steve brings an incredible amount of expertise on leadership as well as diversity and inclusion.
He also brings an interesting backstory where he went from working on a Disney Cruise line to being hired by Disney as a consultant on those very cruises.
Steve will teach us all how to listen, build trust, empathize, and ultimately to lead.
Listen, learn, and let us know what you think about this awesome episode!
Episode Summary
Steve's Leadership Foundation
He got his first taste of leadership in his fraternity in College
Steve calls out how people just simplify leadership at times to just having people skills
He has distilled his leadership principles into six areas
Being authentic
Having leadership courage
Having empathy
Building relationships with those around you
Effective communication
Shaping the culture around you
Listen to Understand not just to Respond
He talks about how you should listen to understand and not just to respond
This is avoiding that feeling you get when you feel like you can't wait for someone to stop talking so you can make your point
In reality, you can't be empathetic to someone if you can't get to really know and understand them
Inclusion is Good for Business
When hiring and building a team, it's important not to hire people just like yourself
Not only does it increase your chances of missing a great hire, but it also opens you up for more risk
This risk is because you'll hire people with your strengths but also your weaknesses
By hiring a more inclusive group we not only support people without bias, but we also cover our blind spots
Steve says it's better to strive for conscious inclusion instead of just working on your unconscious bias
Later in the episode, Steve goes into more metrics of why inclusion impacts the bottom line and not just social initiatives
Leadership in LGBTQ+
Steve makes it clear that he's not trying to say being straight or not means you won't be a better or worse leader
Instead, he helps the LGBTQ+ community see how they can use something like their sexual orientation as a strength
One example he gives is authenticity
If he hid the fact that he had a husband, that wouldn't be very authentic, and he helps this community spot these opportunities
There's More Diversity to Diversity than you think
Sometimes we only think of diversity as race, sex, and sexual orientation but there's a lot more
Steve prefers a specific model that is illustrated by layers and rings
In the center is our personality
Your personality is completely unique
Next out are those items we traditionally think of (sex, race, sexual orientation, etc)
Those are dimensions that typically don't change frequently
Then you have the external dimensions which can change frequently
In this section, you have pay, parenthood, income, habits, physical appearance, etc
Next, you have the organizational dimensions (hourly, manager, legacy groups, etc)
Finally, you'd have the country in which you're operating
This is important just because there are many different cultural norms to consider
Key Takeaways
Listen: It's always a good idea to really listen. Maybe you don't know the person, fully understand the problem, or even know what you're supposed to be doing. Listening can fill all of those holes.
We're all leaders: Steve made a point to call out that we can all practice leadership even if we don't have people reporting to us.
Call to Action
When in conversation this week, make a conscious choice to really listen to others. Listen with the goal to understand and not to look for holes to poke in their argument or to show how smart you are with a great question. Instead, really listen to learn from them and understand their points.
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04 Aug 2020 | Know Your Pension | Grumpus Maximus | 00:46:46 | |
Today's episode features Grumpus Maximus, author of The Golden Albatross and creator of the Grumpus Maximus website.
Grumpus was three years away from a pension when he had a breakdown.
This pushed him to gather all the information he could on his pension to choose on staying or going.
Ultimately, he stayed and from then on became focused on teaching others how to understand and utilize their own pension plans.
Listen, learn, and let us know what you think about this awesome episode!
Episode Summary
Grumpus' Beginnings
In the spring of 2016, he suffered a mental breakdown
This was while serving in the military
He was only 3 yrs from a pension
This made him do a lot of investigating into his pension
He gives people advice on how to balance mental health and personal finance decisions
We also talk about how to decide when to stop chasing the pension
This is important because there's often such a long time to earn the pension
Varieties of Pensions
Grumpus highlights the vast differences in pensions
These differences make them more or less valuable
Differences include healthcare and inflation adjustment
One thing to look out for is how well funded the pension is
If it is only 50% funded, then it could be a riskier and less attractive pension
What is a Pension?
Generally, it's some percentage of money based on your salary that you receive forever
You might have to work X number of years and at that point, you're fully vested
Some allow you to ramp up your pensions vs all or nothing
Think partial vs cliff vesting
The main reason for a pension is for retention
If you're ready to leave, they may offer you a lump sum
It's important to consider tax implications and how much value you're giving up
Grumpus also highlights that all plans must offer survivor benefits
This is where your spouse or dependent would get a part of your pension after your death
Rely Only on Your Pension?
Simply put, you shouldn't only rely on your pension
The closer you get to vesting, the more you can assume you'll have it
You also need to study how likely your pension is to actually exist
This is on top of understanding how likely you'll be able to handle a single job for 20-30 years
Grumpus Moves Abroad
He moved to New Zealand and enjoying the conversion rate
We then discuss how the pension is taxed based on state/country you live in
Grumpus is a big fan of the range of activities available in New Zealand
Cody couldn't agree more!
Key Takeaways
Know Your Pension: The pension system isn't as simple as we thought, so study your specifics
The future is uncertain: At times we don't take action because we're pessimistic but then, unfortunately, we make future assumptions based on overly optimistic projections
Call to Action
Study your pension! Even if you don't have a pension, chances are that you or your spouse has some type of benefits. Really dig in to make sure you fully understand and maximize those benefits.
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11 Aug 2020 | Slow Travel, Geoarbitrage and Creative Frugality | Bob Lai | 00:44:34 | |
Today's episode features Bob Lai from Tawcan.
Bob and his wife are both dual citizens living in Vancouver, Canada.
He has a big passion for geo-arbitrage, slow travel, and dividend investing.
Hear how he's reaching FI while traveling and having three weddings! (spoiler alert, only one bride)
Listen, learn, and let us know what you think about this awesome episode!
Episode Summary
Bob's Background
Bob’s family grew up in Taiwan with a farming background
Money was never taboo and stuck with him
Frugality was a big point of emphasis
His dad retired in his early 40s
Bob had a cousin who retired at 42
And then another cousin who hit FI and kept working
Bob talks about the influence that had on him
Geo-arbitrage
Geoarbitrage is the act of moving somewhere to lower your cost of living
Think San Francisco resident moving to Montana
This can be within your own country or abroad
It’s important to consider your earnings also dropping
This typically works best if you’re not working or working remotely
Some jobs like doctors actually get paid more in small cities
With the pandemic, this is possible for many more workers who’ve gone remote
Exchange rates can also be your friend
Living 181+ days in another country can also help you avoid U.S. income taxes
Citizenship is obviously a big hurdle in certain countries
Some countries give residency based on wealth or homeownership
Geo-arbitrage can save you 50% or more
Slow Travel
Often we look at travel as short spurts (1 – 2 weeks at a time)
This leads to trying to pack in as much as possible
You end up so tired, you need a vacation when you get back
Slow travel is the idea of spreading that over 3-6months
This allows you to spread out costs of flights
It also lets you book apartments vs hotel rooms
Bob goes over how much more enjoyable it is and affordable
He also talks about the benefits of having a home base when traveling
Three weddings under $7000
Bob got married three times….
Remember that his wife was from Denmark
This meant they both had families abroad
His first wedding was mostly his family
Bob’s wife made the cake and her dress!
Of course, they used a coupon after the wedding to eat
A month later they had a wedding with friends and her family
They hired a friend who would go on to go to culinary school
And their photographer was just starting out
His wife actually altered her own wedding dress for the second wedding
A year later they decided to do a wedding actually in Denmark
This time it was at a small-town school and his picture did photographs
Bob even took some of the photos
Rounding out the Episode
Bob talks about how he could retire now if he wanted
He's happy with his job currently
Their home is also very valuable in the crazy Vancouver market
But life is good and his kids have a friend group
Key Takeaways
Slow down: Bob breaks down the power of slow travel which this show is a big fan of
You have options: Don't think that just because you live or were born in a certain area that you have to stay there.
Call to Action
Look at your next planned vacation or one you've done in the past, compare those numbers with the slow travel version of it. How much per day does a six day vacation compare to a six month?
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18 Aug 2020 | Leaving Corporate America and Managing Your Own Business | Terrie Chantel | 00:51:06 | |
Today's episode features Terrie Chantel from TerrieChantel.com.
Terrie is a successful speaker and business coach.
She teaches teach business owners how to monetize their skills, uplevel their personal brand, create profitable offers, and convert followers into buyers.
Being an entrepreneur wasn't always comfortable for Terrie.
Check out how that changed for her and how she's helping others do the same.
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Episode Summary
Terrie's Background
Terrie graduated high school at age 16 and college at age 20
Both of her parents were “workaholics"
This made Terrie believe that "amount of work = financial benefit"
At 17, her uncle wanted her to co-sign on a car to build her credit
That gesture changed her life
At age 22 she went on to buy a house and really understood money
Passing Down Money Lessons
Terrie has three boys, ages 10, 15, 17
Her #1 tool she uses is to “paint a millionaire vision in their mind”
This is the act of making wealth achievable in their mind
She also gets them to use her debit card to pay bills online
Just getting them involved in finances and eliminating the taboo
Now her 17-year-old is already an entrepreneur
Bondage vs Freedom
Her uncle was like her dad and went towards the plan he set out
She graduates college and goes directly into corporate
Terrie stayed there for 10 years
5 years into that career, she started moving into management
The pressure was increasing, work was coming home, and the money didn’t seem worth it
That’s not what she envisioned
It felt more like bondage than freedom
Seeing a New Way
She didn’t have other peers she could turn to who felt this way
Terrie was always the girl, the youngest, and often the only black person
Being surrounded by all these 6-figure earners, Terrie saw how high earners spent money
But everyone worked themselves to death and just watched their vacation pile up
Simply put, Terrie had no idea there was another option
So Terrie started her own side-hustle
Through this, she begins to meet other entrepreneurs
Then she did realize there was another way
Can't Let Go of Stability
Terrie gets laid off around the holidays and gets pregnant with her second child
So she really starts taking her side hustle serious
In her first month, she had 100 clients through a lot of hustle
She would even set quotas for handing out business cards
But even with all that success, she still went back to corporate work
It just felt too secure
Terrie did keep the business going by hiring and training someone
She admits not everyone is driven to be an entrepreneur
But if you have that passion, you have to follow it
Tips for Starting that New Business
She says some people jump to marketing too fast
To help others you need to be financially stable yourself
She focused mainly on customer service and building a solid product
Once those frameworks are set, then you can focus on other things like marketing
If you can’t consistently hit the number you need for bills, that’s a bad sign
This means it’s time to take a pause and look at your processes
She likes to look at it in three-month chunks
Terrie says you should be seeing a consistent profitability to know your frameworks are set
Valuing Yourself
Then we talk about valuing yourself
This includes charging a premium for your services
Stop focusing on yourself and think about the client
Think about how you’re going to change their life
Then you’ll see just how much you're really worth
Key Takeaways
Security is addicting: Terrie had trouble walking away from her normal W-2 job. It's a valid feeling!
Don't Jump To Marketing: Solidify your product offering and take care of your clients, let marketing come later.
Call to Action
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25 Aug 2020 | Fueling Your Body for Maximum Performance | Erica Ballard | 00:47:27 | |
Today's episode features Erica Ballard from Erica Ballard Health.
At first, Erica struggled with her self image and finding out what "healthy" really meant.
Through experimentation and education, she unlocked how to really help others achieve their peak health.
Now she's helping others and educating the world on what real health is.
Listen, learn, and let us know what you think about this awesome episode!
Episode Summary
Erica's Background
Erica thought looking good was the key to her happiness
She also thought she was doing fitness and health the right way
Erica was actually working at a non-profit promoting healthcare and wellness
Unfortunately, this non-profit wasn't promoting the best practices
Eventually, she came to the realization that wellness isn't one size fits all
It took her a while to find what worked for her
Creating an Experiment Mindset
The program that Erica went through pushed you to challenge your wellness beliefs
It would convince you to be vegan and then highlight the benefits of meats
Eventually, you start to see what makes real sense to you and not just following a narrative
Then we discuss problems with the food pyramid and breakfast being the most important meal of the day
To find what works for you she promotes experimenting
Introduce one new piece to your wellness journey at a time and keep what works for you
Crowding In vs Eliminating
Erica promotes that you bring in the things that you want instead of focusing on the cut
Add in more grains and more water, the things you're cutting out will eliminate itself
Challenge yourself on the things you are hanging onto that are keeping you from wellness goals
How are those bad habits serving you?
Then Erica drops all kind of knowledge on us around sugar
Healthy People Perform
We discuss how health and wellness goes beyond life expectancy
It also impacts your job performance and thus your profit margins
Entrepreneurs love to boast about performing on four hours of sleep
That's impressive
But imagine how well they'd perform on eight hours of sleep!
Turn your good (which might be great for everyone else) into your great
The All-Important Sleep
Don't eat close to sleeping (2-3 hours between food and sleep)
Get off the phone before bedtime
Don't drink caffeine after 2 pm
Sleep is the first thing Erica recommends you to work on for wellness
We need 7-8 hours per night!
Performing on four hours of sleep isn't interesting or impressive
Key Takeaways
One size fits one: Erica highlights over and over just how personal that fitness and wellness are, experiment!
Good Intentions: Even though Erica was working at a non-profit promoting health, she was still unknowingly a part of the problem
Call to Action
Experiment with your own health and wellness journey. Pick one thing this week to add. Whether it's exercise, water, or greens, just add one thing. If you see an improvement, keep it, and add another.
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01 Sep 2020 | Learning How to Stack Benjamins | Joe Saul-Sehy | 01:06:45 | |
Today's episode features Joe Saul-Sehy from Stacking Benjamins.
Before creating a massively popular podcast, Joe made a lot of money mistakes.
This all came to a clash when he was working as a financial advisor, owned his own business, and still could barely get the money to get home.
Now Joe is bringing finances into so many homes via a unique comedic angle.
Listen, learn, and let us know what you think about this awesome episode!
Episode Summary
Joe's Background
Joe was in high school and remembers seeing news specials on money-saving tips
He also got inspired by the movie Wall Street
But it took Joe a long time to actually put it into practice
His parents pushed him to work hard but money was taboo
Making Money Missteps
On his first day at college, Joe spots a long line at an American Express Credit Card table
He talks about blowing money at the mall and fancy meals at Ruby Tuesday for his friends
Then things get real when he gets a bill and his parents refuse to help him
His credit was destroyed and the interest started building
Even in his professional life, he thought he had an earning issue, not a spending issue
But we know from famous athletes that a spending problem will always overcome earnings
Joe started earning more money with his own business but kept racking up debt
Keep in mind, his business was as a financial advisor
The breaking moment is when he has no money or credit to buy gas to get home
Joe had to dig for change in his seats just to get home
Turning Things Around
Joe realized he needed to "hide money" from himself
This meant automating money to go into separate accounts that he didn't see
He also realized that he couldn't go cold turkey
Joe gave himself an allowance so he could buy some of those entertainment items
He said it's important to not be too restrictive or else you'll relapse
Entrepreneurial Journey
Joe says he's a bad employee
He would always clash with a boss
Joe admits he also wasn't a great boss at first
He might hire people too much like him
Or spout off ideas through the day not thinking his employees would take that as direction
Starting Stacking Benjamins
Joe sold his business at age 40
This was inspired by a colleague who walked away because it wasn't fulfilling
That person, Chris, stepped away to go climb mountains across the world
Chris would then go on to start an adventure travel company
Inspired by this, Joe decides to go back to school to become a teacher/coach
He realized quickly that it wasn't for him
So Joe starts dabbling in a blog and creates the Stacking Benjamins podcast
He wanted to take the unique angle of comedy
They took it really seriously and even would attend comedy classes
Pulling From Others
Joe recommends the book by Austin Kleon - Think like an artist
He really recommends people look at others in their industry and pull all the best parts
It was actually a car podcast that was hilarious to him that inspired the Stacking Benjamin theme
Joe says he actually wants a finance show where no one learns a thing about money
In reality, people learn a lot but it doesn't feel like a class
He would go on to pull from a board game podcast, car podcast, and even a little kids podcast
Key Takeaways
Imposter Syndrome: Joe was a financial advisor but still struggled to follow his own advice. We all need help on this journey.
Let Others Inspire You: Don't feel guilty about taking takes from others as long as it isn't inspiration.
Call to Action
Change, assess, repeat. Start to source ideas from others and try them out. Don't just be stagnant!
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15 Sep 2020 | From the Ghetto to a Growth Mindset | Jerry Brown | 00:53:21 | |
Today's episode features Jerry Brown from Peerless Money Mentor.
Jerry grew up in a self-described ghetto with no real view of a way out.
We cover his background, how he turned things around, and how he's built a powerful financial independence network.
You won't want to miss this inspiring story!
Listen, learn, and let us know what you think about this awesome episode.
Episode Summary
Jerry's Background
Jerry didn't really know he was poor growing up
But he lived in a crime-filled neighborhood with few outside role models
His mom also needed assistance to get by
He talks about how people were surprised he'd even admit that he was from the area he lived in
Growing up he thought basketball or rapping would be the only possible way to escape
His mom did put a big emphasis on learning but financial independence never seemed reasonable
Can you Bootstrap Past Disadvantages?
Jerry sees it as a mixed bag
He does put a lot of weight into hard work
But he also acknowledges the real disadvantages
He was also cognizant enough to understand his family was a big advantage
Jerry's Financial Mistakes
Jerry was young and healthy so he thought he didn't need insurance
A large dental procedure led him to serious credit card debt
Then he started buying more things on credit
Eventually, Jerry would buy a $22k car while only earning $22k per year
Financial Wake Up Call
He came home and his fiance had her bags packed
Jerry realized he couldn't afford to live by himself
So he thought he'd just live out of his car to avoid the embarrassment of moving home
Jerry was also carrying debt with 25% interest rates
He was making payments but was never actually making progress
A friend recommended he refinance through a personal loan
This lowered his debt all the way down to 5%
For his remaining credit card bills, he did a balance transfer
That gave him 0% rate for 18 months
Jerry's Side Hustle Journey
He tried Swagbucks but the payout was terrible
Then he tried Uber but it was taking a toll on his car
Jerry also tried We Go Look where you send in pictures of damaged vehicles for insurance claims.
Now he is getting more into freelance writing and social media management
Jerry also highly recommends Beta Testing.
Networking
This was a really powerful part of Jerry's story
Networking expanded his world view
It also tangibly impacted him
From ideas on debt payment or side hustles like freelance writing
Jerry really highlights the importance to surround yourself with people you can draw knowledge and encouragement from
Key Takeaways
Artificial Limits: One thing that really stuck out was the disadvantage that people experience simply by having low expectations set for them and surrounding them.
Mental Health: We loved that Jerry was open about his mental health journey and his encouragement to others to also take it seriously.
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29 Sep 2020 | 100 Life Updates and The FI Show Evolution | 00:50:57 | |
Today's episode features your very own hosts Justin from Saving-Sherpa and Cody from Fly to FI.
We just wanted to celebrate our 100th episode!
Both of us give you a rundown on all the big life events that have taken place this year.
Cody bought three investment properties and Justin hit FI at age 30!
There's so much more so you won't want to miss this one.
Episode Summary
What You Can Expect To Hear
Justin hits FI
Cody buys 3 properties
Cody goes Vegan
Justin sells his van
Justin moves to Texas
Cody learns lessons from entrepreneurship
We also celebrate accomplishments from those special people in our lives
Experimenting with The FI Show going forward
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06 Oct 2020 | Healthcare in the FI Community | Lynn Frair & Jackie Cummings Koski | 00:53:19 | |
Today's episode features the healthcare option experts Lynn Frair and Jackie Cummings Koski.
Lynn is crowdsourcing all the best health care options for the FI community and Jackie is a certified Health Savings Account (HSA) expert!
Open enrollment is just around the corner and we're bringing you the knowledge you need to decide.
This topic is crucial for everyone listening so don't miss this one.
Links and Resources
Comparing High Deductible Plans with a Health Savings Account to Traditional plans
Lynn & Jackie recommend this tool -> WexInc HSA vs Traditional Calculator
Really understanding what all you can do with HSAs
Mad Fientist article helps with HSAs too
How Lynn is crowdsourcing healthcare options especially for FIRE / Entrepreneurs
Take a look at FI Healthcare
Reach out to Lynn & Jackie
Lynn Frair
Website: FI Healthcare
Instagram: FI Healtchare
LinkedIn: Lynn Frair
Jackie Cummings Koski
HSA Email: hsaquestion@gmail.com
Website: Money Letter 2
LinkedIn: Jackie Koski
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13 Oct 2020 | Shopping for Healthcare (The Right Way) | Scott Heiser | 00:47:48 | |
Today's episode features the healthcare expert Scott Heiser who authored Healthcare is Making Me Sick.
Scott is leading the charge on making healthcare understandable for all.
He covers how new transparency data tools are empowering us as healthcare consumers and how best to handle your medical bills.
This topic is crucial for everyone listening so don't miss this one.
Summary
Scott shares transparency data tools and how they're changing healthcare shopping
Medical tourism is possible even within the United States
You haggle for a used car, why not the payment on a knee replacement?
Are non-profit hospitals raking in cash?
And much more
Reach out to Scott
Book: Healthcare is Making Me Sick
Website: UncoveredHC.com
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21 Oct 2020 | Healthcare 2020 Roundup | Listener Q&A and Personal Experience | 00:31:04 | |
Today's episode features your two podcast hosts, Justin & Cody.
The cover guest questions on topics like medical bill negotiations, pricing, plan types, coverage when traveling, and more.
They also let listeners in on exactly how they get their coverage now, and for Justin, how he plans to manage this once he no longer has that W-2 job.
This topic is crucial for everyone listening so don't miss this one.
Links From the Episode
https://uncoveredhc.com/blog/the-top-healthcare-transparency-sites-2019/
https://www.icd10data.com/ICD10CM/Codes
ehealthinsurance.com
healthcare.gov
https://uncoveredhc.com/blog/how-to-choose-the-best-health-insurance-for-2020/ https://uncoveredhc.com/blog/paying-for-health-insurance/
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15 Dec 2020 | Living in Taiwan and Slow Traveling The World | Mr. Nomad Numbers | 00:45:19 | |
Today's episode features Mr. Nomad Numbers from Nomad Numbers.
This begins our series on Geo-arbitrage which is the act of purposefully moving to a location for monetary benefits such as lower cost of living or tax treatment.
Mr. &. Mrs. Nomad numbers were living in California and realized they could jump ship and retire. They chose to move to Taiwan where they could obtain a 3yr gold-card which would allow them to live there full time.
Mr. NN also gives us the breakdown of how Taiwan has battled Covid-19 so effectively and what it was like going through that process.
We're excited to bring you some guests who took their freedom to the next level and moved abroad. Take a listen and consider where you'd move if you had the freedom.
Links From the Episode
Taiwan Gold Card
https://taiwangoldcard.com/goldcard-holders-faq/at-work/#can-i-just-not-work-at-all
https://www.nomadnumbers.com/taiwan-employment-gold-card-application-guide/
Other Helpful Links
https://www.nomadnumbers.com/cost-of-living-stuck-in-taiwan-during-the-pandemic/
https://www.nomadnumbers.com/slow-travel/
https://www.nomadnumbers.com/design-your-ideal-life/
https://www.nomadnumbers.com/top-tips-save-money-airbnb-guide/
Nomad Numbers Cost of Living Around The World Map
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22 Dec 2020 | Selling Everything and Moving to Panama | Jim White | 00:48:21 | |
Today's episode features Jim White from Route to Retire.
We're continuing our series on geoarbitrage which is the act of purposefully moving to a location for monetary benefits such as lower cost of living or tax treatment.
Jim and his family utilized a traditional corporate job to amass a nest egg large enough to retire in his early 40s. They were conservative enough to save for a life in the U.S. but wanted to find a lower price point abroad.
Jim poured over the research and took a successful test run to Panama. The rest is history and Jim and his family now live there full time. They live a vacation life on an ordinary budget.
Take a listen and consider where you'd move if you had the freedom.
Links From the Episode
Follow along with Jim's Net-worth
Roth IRA conversion calculator
Cost of living in Panama
Investment drawdown plan
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26 Jan 2021 | Geoarbitrage Case Studies | Diving into the Numbers with Cody & Justin | 00:33:34 | |
Today's episode rounds out our series on utilizing your location as a tool to financial independence and is led by just thew of us hosts.
You may hear this idea called geo-arbitrage. We wanted to pick two locations where we would actually like to take a test run of financial independence in a foreign country.
Cody picked Santiago, Chile and Justin picked Porto, Portugal.
This episode covers an honest and holistic look at what it would cost for a couple to live in these countries while still really exploring and enjoying them.
Take a listen and consider where you'd move if you had the freedom.
Santiago, Chile
Housing
- $500 for a one BR apartment
- Comes with parking, laundry, gym, BBQ and pool
Utilities (Electricity, Heat, Cooling, Water, Garbage)
$135 per month
Cost of Flights to Other Locations
- Flights around South America starting as low as $35.
- $385 to get back to Cody's home in New England
Restaurant Samplings
- Simple meal at inexpensive restaurant costs $5
Grocery Samplings
- $30-35 per week. With mostly fish, vegetables, beans, eggs, “healthy” pasta, fruits, and smoothies
Phone/Internet
- $45 per month
Public Transportation
- Taxis will take you anywhere for less than $10
- Average of $150 per month (per expat survey)
Healthcare
- Ranked 33 out of 190 countries (similar to Australia and Denmark and many of the doctors speak english)
- $100-120 for healthy adult expat insurance
Visa Requirements (how long can I stay?)
- 90 days (plus can pay $100 for another 90 day extension)
Weather
- Coldest months are June and July with average highs of 61 degrees Fahrenheit
- Only downside is that it rains 4-5 days per week
Total cost = $1650/month
500 housing
135 utilities
120 groceries
250 restaurants
45 phone/internet
100 transport
120 healthcare
400 entertainment
$19,800 per year
Porto, Portugal
Housing
- $833 for a one BR apartment in heart of the city
- Comes with parking, laundry, wifi, all utilities
Utilities (Electricity, Heat, Cooling, Water, Garbage)
Included
Cost of Flights to Other Locations
- Flights around Europe starting as low as $25.
Paris: $25
Barcelona $49
Milan $53
- $670 to get back to Justin's home in Austin
Restaurant Samplings
- Simple meal at inexpensive restaurant costs $6
- Anthony Bordain visited restaurant also serves $1.80 martinis
Grocery Samplings
- $40 per week.
$2.60/lb chicken, $1.30/lb pork, $0.75 fresh bread, $0.90 apples, $2.50 bottle of wine as examples
Phone/Internet
- Wifi is free, 22gb data and unlimited call cell phone for $18
Public Transportation
-Amazing train system for very cheap which I factor into "Travel"
Healthcare
- Emergency room visits are free
- Research shows ~$40 per month for plans
Visa Requirements (how long can I stay?)
- 90 days with just the passport
- Full citizenship appears attainable if you can prove you have healthcare as well as stable income source to fund your retirement
Weather
- Lowest highs are 57 degrees December/January
- Highest highs are 77 degrees in July/August
Total cost = $1770/month (for a couple)
833 housing
140 groceries
300 restaurants
18 phone/internet
80 healthcare
400 entertainment (includes transportation)
$21,240 per year
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02 Feb 2021 | Using Music Therapy to Reach New Heights | Marlys Woods | 00:39:58 | |
Today's episode features Marlys Woods who created her own business, Get in Tune Music Therapy, where she uses music as a tool to help her clients reach new heights.
Never heard of musical therapy? Neither had we but it's very interesting.
She pairs what she loves about music with psychology. The most common use case for this is for developmental issues or speech rehab.
But it's also possible to use music as a tool for everyday productivity and releasing stressors.
Marlys focuses on addiction which was her focus after her undergrad degree. She turned this into a full-fledged business where she employs other contractors to all help patients through their recovery utilizing music.
Take a listen and learn about yet another amazing example of designing a life that brings you happiness and purpose.
Links From the Episode
Contact Marlys:
Website: Getintunemusictherapy.com
Instagram: @GetInTuneMusic
Money Emotions & Music: Program coming soon for managing emotions on your financial independence journey!
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09 Feb 2021 | Shaping Failure and Tough Conversations | David Wood | 00:51:44 | |
Today's episode features David Wood from Focus.ceo who has become one of the biggest life coaches and has helped 150k+ people.
David spent over 20 years building a career as a consulting actuary for Fortune 100 companies.
David helps high-performing entrepreneurs, executives and teams to identify and master their tough conversations, becoming the leaders they themselves would follow.
There are so many awesome techniques that David shares. So sit back and try them out yourself while you listen.
Links From the Episode
Click here to get the following gifts from David:
Cheat sheet for doubling revenue
Video on achieving more in less time
15 minute live audit on doubling revenue
And a 35 minute workshop
David's Website: Focus.Ceo
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16 Feb 2021 | Mindset and Financial Independence | 00:29:57 | |
Today's episode is another one led by your awesome Co-hosts (Justin & Cody).
The topic today is all about the mental part of our journeys to financial independence. Good and Bad.
Depression, joy, grit, relaxing, purpose, people...this episode has it all.
So take a moment and hear from the FI Show guys as they open up the curtain on mental hurdles they've faced and the strategies they've used to overcome them.
Highlights From the Episode
Realizing it's not about the money
Finding your tribe
Working too hard
Comparison: the thief of joy
Finding purpose
Giving back
....And much more
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23 Feb 2021 | Setting Teens Up for Financial Independence | Dan Sheeks | 00:49:35 | |
Today's episode features Dan Sheeks from Sheeks Freaks who has created a place for teens that are "obsessed" with making smart financial decisions.
Dan is a teacher in Colorado and is really changing the lives of young people and giving them a place where they can feel normal sharing their financial interests.
It's obvious through all the success stories he highlights that this is working and was a needed niche.
We hope you're as excited to hear how the next generation is chasing FI/RE as we are. So sit back and take a listen.
Links From the Episode
Dan's Website: Sheeks Freaks
Sheeks Freaks Instagram
Sheeks Freaks YouTube
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02 Mar 2021 | How to Adult Your Personal Finances | Jake Cousineau | 00:43:32 | |
Today's episode features Jake Cousineau soon to be Author of How to Adult: Personal Finance for the Real World.
You might even recognize Jake from his $50k Wheel of Fortune payday!
Jake is now hoping to increase the odds of winning at life for young adults across the country. We talk to Jake about why he decided to build this financial guide to life and the lessons he has learned actively teaching the next generation of the FI/RE community.
Share this episode with that rising senior or new college student in your life, but for now, sit back and take a listen.
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Jake's Email: jake@htapersonalfinance.com
Website: HTA Personal Finance
Twitter: https://twitter.com/htafinance
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10 Mar 2021 | Early Lessons in Personal Finance | 00:43:20 | |
Today's episode features the hosts (Justin & Cody) who share their early lessons in personal finance.
How did two guys from completely different backgrounds both get so inspired to retire early? Who influenced them?
Stop by and listen to some quirky stories of how they came to be passionate about personal finance and some tips for how you can inspire others around you.
Share this episode with those friends who just need a little boost, but for now, sit back and take a listen.
Links From the Episode
Justin's Blog: Saving Sherpa
Cody's Blog: Fly to FI
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16 Mar 2021 | Building an 8-Figure VA Business in the Philippines | John Jonas | 00:45:13 | |
Today's episode features John Jonas from OnlineJobs.ph which is an impressive online marketplace that matches online workers from the Philippines with business owners from around the world.
With over 1 million resumes on the platform, the website is ever-growing and constantly refining its matching capabilities.
Virtual assistants, developers, video editors...the options are endless for filling a need you might have.
As an employer, you get access to an amazing workforce at a low cost with no monthly fee and you don't even have to worry about 1099 taxes*.
Whether you need to fill out some vacant jobs or just learn about an awesome business venture it's time to sit back and take a listen.
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23 Mar 2021 | From Corporate America to a Food Truck CEO | Brent Gargasz | 00:48:30 | |
Today's episode features Brent from Farm Fired Pizza aka the "Food Truck CEO". Brent runs an amazing food trailer with a wood fire pizza oven creating some of the best-looking pizzas you'll ever see.
Brent didn't go to culinary school or come from a cooking background. In fact, he was a highly successful nurse who had worked his way up into more of the corporate side.
This was great for his paycheck but terrible for his fulfillment.
Ultimately, Brent decided to follow his passion for delicious pizza and quit that corporate job. Fast forward a little over a year and he's selling out events on a regular basis with a thriving business.
Struggling to find purpose in your day job? Well, then it is time to sit back, take a listen, and get inspired.
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30 Mar 2021 | Should You Follow Your Passion? | 00:34:10 | |
Today's episode features your hosts Justin and Cody discussing the art of following your passion.
Justin still works a more typical corporate job while Cody took to entrepreneurship almost immediately. When you're faced with the decision of which way to go, what do you do?
In this episode, you'll hear the hosts talk about their personal views on the situation as well as tips to help make you successful regardless of which path you choose.
Don't sit and suffer a miserable job you hate, but don't YOLO and quit a job en route to financial ruin. Now it is time to sit back, take a listen, and get inspired.
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Kristy Shen's Quit Like a Millionaire
Kristy and Bryce Interview
Essentialism Book
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06 Apr 2021 | From Homeless at 19 to Finding Success through Passion | Anthony ONeal | 00:32:28 | |
Today's episode features Anthony ONeal from "The Table" podcast and author of Debt Free Degree.
Anthony has an incredible story of loss and triumph.
He hit bottom as he lost everything and ending up homeless at age 19 while trying to figure out how to get through college. Anthony turned his life around and would go on to not only graduate but dedicate much of his life to educating other young people in hopes that they could avoid his missteps.
Now, Anthony is a successful author and online personality who has helped thousands of people navigate college without taking on crippling debt.
Have time for an amazing story? Well, then it is time to sit back, take a listen, and get inspired.
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Proximity Principle Book - Ken Coleman
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13 Apr 2021 | Finding Your Work-Life Balance | J.Money | 00:51:01 | |
Today's episode features one of the original personal finance bloggers, J.Money!
Whether it was Budgets are Sexy, Rockstar Finance, or now All Star Money, J.Money has been inspiring readers and spreading the best finance content for over a decade.
You may recognize the mohawk, but for us, it's the transparency and giving spirit that stands out.
Listen to how someone who wasn't naturally good at money or came from a finance background would become one of the leading voices in the personal finance space.
Now it is time to sit back, take a listen, and get inspired.
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20 Apr 2021 | Lean FIRE, Geoarbitrage, and Flexibility | Eric Richard | 00:45:11 | |
Today's episode features Eric Richard from Nomad on FIRE.
Eric worked his way into a lucrative corporate job in supply chain management, but with that came long hours and a terrible commute. He admits that frugality didn't come naturally to him but he saw how work was destroying his happiness and health so he took the plunge towards Financial Independence.
After saving over $500k, Eric had reached Lean FIRE and took off to travel the world.
He'd eventually end up back in the corporate world but this time in a great work culture that is 70% remote. He used his freedom to find the job that fit his life and is set up to be fully retired in no time.
Financial independence isn't only about quitting your job, it's also about the freedom to find the right job for you.
Now it is time to sit back, take a listen, and get inspired.
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Nomad on Fire Blog
Nomad on Fire Podcast
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27 Apr 2021 | Transparency, Balance, and Telling Your Story | 00:23:36 | |
Today's episode features your hosts Justin and Cody discussing authenticity and work-life balance.
Both Cody and Justin are very open about their finances and love sharing both their failures and successes. Why? Because real stories give real inspiration. This is a crazy journey to suggest so having real data to back it up helps give confidence.
The more authentic voices out there, the higher the chances are that someone can find a story they relate with.
The episode is rounded out with a discussion on work-life balance. At the end of the day, there will always be more work, but you can't say the same about life. So set boundaries and stick to them.
Is authenticity important to you? Do you have a handle on work-life balance? Either way, take a listen, and get inspired.
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Privilege and Perseverance
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04 May 2021 | Does House Hacking Make Sense for You? (yes) | Andrew Kerr | 00:45:10 | |
Today's episode features Andrew Kerr from the House Hacking Podcast.
Andrew has been in the real estate field for almost 20 years and has experience with nearly every type of real estate transaction.
By the end of the episode, you'll hear all about the pros, cons, and everything in between in regards to house hacking.
Hint: It's one of the best ways to supercharge your path to financial independence.
Ready to get creative with your living situation and lighten up those expenses? Well, sit back, take a listen, and learn all about house hacking!
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11 May 2021 | Getting 1% Better and Creating Opportunity | Scott Trench, CEO of BiggerPockets | 00:45:21 | |
Today's episode features Scott Trench. Author of Set for Life and CEO of Bigger Pockets.
After college, Scott finds himself in a finance job he doesn't like and discovers financial independence which changes his entire philosophy.
Financial independence led Scott to real estate and the rest was history.
In this episode, we dig into Scott's mindset, his habits, his goal-setting routines, his thoughts on real estate, his investment strategies, and his overarching life mission.
Sit back, relax, and hear Scott's amazing story.
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20 May 2021 | Investing in Self Storage and Green Homes | Scott Krone | 00:45:08 | |
Today's episode features Scott Krone. Scott is the managing partner and founder of Coda Management Group.
During college, Scott and his fellow architect classmates found themselves providing free labor to their professor's development business. This odd form of free labor turned out to be a launching pad for Scott's career.
He took on major projects right away and realized that he was more valuable than they realized and branched off on his own.
Now Scott specializes in breathing new life into dilapidated commercial buildings and converting them into cash cow storage units.
Scott also shares some of his insights with another passion of his, green home design.
Crank up the volume and hear all about this unique corner of the real estate market.
Sit back, relax, and hear Scott's amazing story.
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25 May 2021 | Beating Broke, Leveling Up, and Real Estate | Alex Felice | 00:46:05 | |
Today's episode features Alex Felice from Broke is a Choice.
Yes, Alex chose that name to be a little controversial. He likes to stir things up a little and get the conversations going.
For him though, he found himself broke in 2010 and he did make that choice to turn things around.
He poured himself into personal finance education and completely reinvented his relationship with money. In 2014, he decided real estate would be his angle towards freedom.
18 months into his journey, he made more money than an idiot like him should have (haha his words, not ours).
These days his real estate deals just keep getting bigger and bigger including a recent deal that brought in over 50 units to a group of investors.
You won't want to miss Alex's views on beating broke, leveling up, and investing in real estate.
Now take some time and see if you can learn about some choices you should make!
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01 Jun 2021 | Real Estate Roundup | Our Experiences with Real Estate Investing | 00:35:55 | |
Today's episode features your hosts Justin and Cody discussing Real Estate.
They both had no idea how real estate was an investment because their parents lived in the same homes their entire life. It wasn't an investment, it was just home.
Fast forward and Cody starts finding profitable properties in Connecticut after he extends his sights past his home state of Massachusetts. Then Justin gets into the game through REITs and a syndication.
Real estate investing can be extremely powerful due to its leverage and protection against inflation (if done correctly). However, renting also has its merit and real estate isn't for everyone.
Are you interested in dipping your toes into real estate? Curious about what we think about the subject? Then sit back and take a listen as we break down our personal experiences in real estate.
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08 Jun 2021 | Fi-lexibility and The EconoMe Conference | Diania Merriam | 00:41:33 | |
Today's episode features the founder of EconoMe, Diania Merriam.
Diania wasn't always into money. She had her time in New York where she went through a phase many of us struggle with -- blowing money and living it up in our 20s.
Diania decided to revamp her lifestyle but wanted to do so without giving up the experiences. She traded going out to eat for hosting dinner parties. Instead of going out shopping, she hosted clothes swaps.
Then, Diania took it a step further by relocating to Cincinnati -- a city where she still feels like she has the amenities of a big city for a fraction of the New York price tag.
After pursuing financial independence for a few years, Diania wanted to build a conference that inspired people and recharged their passion for personal finance. She knew she wanted something that was in person, had a high production value, and that gave a ton of value in a small amount of time.
That's where EconoMe was born! You can join the likes of Bitches Get Riches, Kiersten Saunders, Joe Saul-Sehy, and more great speakers at this year's event. Use promo code FISHOW for 10% off. The conference is Saturday, November 13th, 2021 in Cincinnati, and we hope to see you there!
Now take some time and learn how Diania is crushing her own journey while inspiring others!
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Tickets to EconoMe (Use promo code FISHOW for 10% off)
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16 Jun 2021 | How the 4% Rule is Changing | Bill Bengen | 00:45:40 | |
Today's episode features Bill Bengen, creator of the 4% rule.
The 4% rule is arguably the most famous and influential research of the financial independence movement.
The rule essentially says that you can safely withdraw 4% of your invested nest egg without ever completely depleting that nest egg. That means for every $100k you have invested, that you can spend $4k per year indefinitely.
Bill has spent decades and countless hours tweaking these calculations and looking for any weakness in its logic.
In this episode, we'll hear Bill's latest updates and what he now thinks about the 4% rule all these years later.
Now take some time and see if Bill still believes the 4% rule is a safe path to early retirement.
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22 Jun 2021 | Slow FI and Building a 10/10 Lifestyle | Jessica from The Fioneers | 00:48:59 | |
Today's episode features Jessica from The Fioneers.
Jessica wasn't always financially savvy and started her career making just $11k per year.
Then, her husband introduced the ideology of retiring early and Jessica started climbing the corporate ladder.
She quickly realized that racing towards financial independence at a rapid pace was taking too heavy of a toll on herself, so she changed course.
No longer would she be hyper-focused on a retirement date but instead embraced what she calls "Slow FI". Taking the benefits of incremental freedoms along the way and enjoying the journey without burning yourself out just to shave some time off your working years.
Jessica will challenge your beliefs of FI, so take a listen and see how your mindset may change.
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The Fioneers Website
Slow FI Interview Series
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29 Jun 2021 | Money = Flexibility & Options | 00:27:10 | |
In this roundup episode, the FI Show Guys talk about how FI has given them flexibility and freedom.
Reflecting on the 4% rule, cashflow FI, and the levels of financial independence you hit along the way.
Want more confidence in negotiations? How about less stress when something goes wrong? Maybe even to feel free enough to take a chance with a career change?
These are all fantastic benefits that FI brings.
We hope you take this episode and either reflect on your journey or get inspired to start one.
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FI-Lexibility with Diania Merriam
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07 Jul 2021 | Going Virtual, Sourcing Clients & Crushing Social Media | Allegra Paris | 00:45:31 | |
Today's episode features Allegra Paris from AllegraParis.com and the AP Fit program.
If you look today, Allegra has created a successful and rewarding personal training business. She's helping others while also building a brand that provides her a life she loves.
But things weren't always that simple. Allegra was facing massive burnout trying to make things work in New York City with her clothing brand and one-on-one training sessions.
Eventually, she was forced to pivot and adapt when the world turned upside down (looking at you, COVID).
Listen to today's episode for an inspiring story including tips on taking a business virtual, sourcing clients, and crushing social media.
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13 Jul 2021 | Being Unstoppable, Forming Connections, and Competitive Edge | Jennifer Magley | 00:47:38 | |
Today's episode features former professional Tennis player and NCAA Div 1 head coach Jennifer Magley.
Jennifer started her life as a professional athlete but was forced to reinvent herself like so many athletes often do.
She had to learn to be likeable and shed her unwavering competitiveness. Since then, Jennifer has become a leader in connection and networking.
Jennifer has also written two books, attends countless speaking engagements, and does amazing charitable work -- all while crushing it as a mom.
Listen to today's episode for some amazing mindset and personal improvement tips!
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20 Jul 2021 | Building a Multi Six-Figure Marketing Agency from Scratch | Ryan Helms | 00:49:26 | |
Today's episode features Ryan Helms from Legacy Podcasting.
Ryan actually liked his position earning 6-figures in the supply chain industry, but he knew that there was something more out there for him.
He initially started a podcast to learn from and talk with a collection of people.
That quickly led him into helping other content creators build their brands.
Today, Ryan's marketing agency is bringing in multiple six figures and he's helped dozens of entrepreneurs and small businesses grow their reach and impact.
Listen to this episode if you're looking to quit your job, grow a business, and create an intentional lifestyle!
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Legacy Podcasting
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27 Jul 2021 | Resiliency, Networking, and Creating Your Own Path – July 2021 Roundup | 00:27:45 | |
In this roundup episode, the FI Show Guys talk about resiliency, creating your own unique path, and the power of networking.
Our last three guests -- Allegra Paris, Jennifer Magley, and Ryan Helms -- all taught us that success doesn't happen overnight. It's through repeated hard work, embracing and learning from failure, and bringing the right people into your inner circle.
Want to hear how Cody and Justin have witnessed similar experiences in their own lives? Then this episode is for you!
We hope you take this episode and think about how you can utilize some of these tactics and mental frameworks for yourself.
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Allegra Paris Episode
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03 Aug 2021 | The Shred Method (How to Maximize Your HELOC) | Adam Carroll | 00:46:07 | |
Today's episode features author, speaker, and mentor Adam Carroll.
Adam shares with us his favorite finance technique that he calls "The Shred Method" which looks to utilize your HELOC (home equity line of credit) loan to its full potential.
He also covers some of the powerful mindsets that he believes in which he shares with colleges and corporations across the country.
It's clear why Adam has been picked up for TED talks. His passion and unique views are something everyone should take the time to hear.
Listen to this episode and reach out with your thoughts!
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The Shred Method
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10 Aug 2021 | Building Businesses for Financial Freedom | Brooke Packard | 00:44:45 | |
Today's episode features Brooke Packard, the teacher, realtor, real estate investor, cleaning business owner, physical product creator... what doesn't she do?
Brooke was always interested in making more money from a young age.
Her first entrepreneurial venture was her cleaning business, BP's Easy Living, which she's scaled from a one-woman operation to a team of 13 and growing.
But the ideas didn't stop there. Brooke is maximizing every hour of her day and continuing to build businesses for financial freedom.
Give the episode a listen and see how she plans to retire by 30!
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18 Aug 2021 | Mastering Real Estate Renovations | Van Sturgeon | 00:46:43 | |
Today's episode features Van Sturgeon who is an expert in real estate renovations with 30+ years of experience.
He learned his trade the hard.
Growing up, his parents purchased an apartment building but real estate was in deep trouble thanks to sky-high interest and unemployment rates.
This forced Van into learning how to do the repairs his family couldn't afford.
Fast forward to today and Van has seen and done it all. He breaks down all of his do's & don'ts to make the process less intimidating.
Wondering how to quote prices, manage a project, or locate good help? Take a listen and you'll soon find out!
Links From the Episode
Van's Website -> Includes a free rehab calculator
Van's Blog
Van's Facebook Profile
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