The Curiosity Cure - MindBody Wellness (Deb Malkin)
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| 03 Aug 2023 | Move With Deb, Episode 69, Embodying Systems Thinking | 00:19:15 | |
Here's some articles about mindbody medicine and systems thinking - https://medicine.wustl.edu/news/mind-body-connection-is-built-into-brain-study-suggests/ https://annals-general-psychiatry.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12991-023-00434-5
[00:00:55] Hello and welcome to Move with Deb soon to be renamed The Curiosity Cure with Deb. I am your host. I'm a MINDBODY pain recovery coach, and I am here to share with you some thoughts about the interplay between the mind, the body, the self, and how it relates to what we feel. So I today, you know, I'm supposed to be getting on a plane very early in the morning, tomorrow morning.
[00:01:30] And so of course my brain was like, you need to go record a podcast right now. 'cause that's the most important thing. Not packing, not washing my sheets so that they'll be clean when I come back. Not the entire long list of things that I have to do. It was like, no, you must get on and share this idea with people.
[00:01:54] And so here. It's come from a bunch of conversations with clients. In one conversation with a client today we were talking about how you support yourself when you don't feel well. She was having acute symptoms, not chronic symptoms, but we were talking about the way that our pain behaviors show up.
[00:02:14] Sometimes we get these beliefs like, oh, you know, I have to rest more, or I just need to rest. Or the way that you're managing the experience that you're having becomes this particular kind of thinking. These ways of thinking about pain or about symptoms are kind of socially constructed and socially supported. They're things that we hear other people say them, we say them, and they become so ubiquitous that we're almost not really even clear on what it is that we're saying, but we're saying something that sounds good. Like it satisfies the part of us that is confused and doesn't know how to feel better and we get ourselves in these cycles.
[00:03:03] One of the things that I was thinking about as I've been listening to. James Tripp, who's a hypnosis teacher and a thought leader in that universe, which is somewhat adjacent, but overlapping with pain recovery.
[00:03:17] At the heart of it, we're constructing and deconstructing language and psychophysiological experiences. We're exploring meaning we're exploring sense-making, we're exploring how we shift our physiological experience to go from one that we don't like to one that we like better. All the different ways that are not just taking a pill, having some kind of physical intervention, like how we use these other parts of our experience, especially our brain, to help us create a new experience of our reality. You've heard me talk about predictive brain coding and things like that, we're kind of blending neuroscience. What I really love is, because I'm not a neuroscientist, I am the coach that people work with. So in our work together, which actually a client that I just wrapped up with, she's like, "Working with you is magic."
[00:04:17] And I do not identify as a witch. I don't identify as my work being magical, but I believe there are experiences we have that feel magical, and to me that's like, out of the ordinary, rarefied, unique, special, um, otherworldly, right? And that is kind of what we're trying to create when we are doing mind body work is we're going along, we're having this experience, we're having this experience, we're having this experience.
[00:04:45] We want a different experience. And we're like, I feel really stuck in my current embodied experience, and I don't know how to get to this other place, it's almost like, if you were traveling and you're like, I'm over here and I wanna get over there, but you don't have a map and you don't know how to get there, and you don't know what the transportation options are, you know, you're annoyed that we still didn't get these transporters that we were promised because like, oh man, that would make it really easy. You would literally just be like, pop from one place to the other place that you wanna go.
[00:05:22] Well, we don't have those things, but we do in mind body work and hypnosis, we have these maps. One of the maps that James Tripp has talked about and a mental health educator who I think of as a mentor, Mark Freeman and his work shows up in my work, his work is really informed how I work with clients, they both talk about systems thinking. And I like to think of our mind-body connection as a systems thinking construct.
[00:05:55] The key concepts and systems thinking are, all systems are comprised of interconnected parts. The connections cause behavior of one part to affect another, and all parts are connected. That is a beautiful description of how the mind, the brain, and the body and sometimes, you know, body slash nervous system.
[00:06:20] I don't know, stick the nervous system in there. Is it the brain? Is it the body? It's both. But they're all interconnected. And so when we look at it through that lens, we can start to notice where we can affect change, but also where the problem lies. Of course, if we don't feel like we have a problem, then we have nothing that we wanna solve.
[00:06:45] So usually there's something that's happening that we don't like, that we don't want, that we want less of. And we set about in our individual and collective ways to create change. One is identifying what the problem is, and so one of the things that my client and I were talking about is, what if it's not about necessarily like rushing to feel better or being like, what did I do to not feel good, or what do I have to do to feel better?
[00:07:16] It's really about like slowing down, creating that connection and awareness. So really being able to witness and notice. So witness the process of when I have this sensation, these are the thoughts and feelings that are arising, or you know, it's this time of day and this experience is happening regularly.
[00:07:40] We were talking about the energy feeling slump that you get at like three, four o'clock. And I was like, well, maybe your body's just like, yeah, we're done thinking 'cause we're taking all of this energy and we're sticking it in our bellies so we can process our food. So of course there's going to be changes in our energy throughout the day. The brain is allocating resources to different places to manage our allostatic load. We have different needs at different times in the day. We are not robots. We're human. And so it becomes then about the story that you tell to yourself when you have that kind of inevitable energy slump in the middle of the day or the, the, towards the end of the day.
[00:08:31] And if you're like, oh my God, I still have like these hours left, and then your brain starts to be like, this is the worst and I hate this. And, and all of that is totally understandable. At the same time, it's like, ugh, we're making those two hours that are left almost longer and longer and longer and unbearable, and indeterminate and like, oh my God, because we do have the power with our mind and our perception of things to turn up the volume on discomfort or turn down the volume on discomfort. The time is still the same. So it was really fun to listen to my client already resourcing herself with thoughts about that time. She's like, well, this time's gonna go by, you know, it's gonna be two hours somewhere.
[00:09:21] And so it was really fun to listen to her kind of deescalate. Then we were talking about how do you then support yourself physiologically? Like we've got the kind of mindset support locked in, right? The thoughts about it, the awareness of the thoughts, how we can Interrupt, catastrophizing, right?
[00:09:41] So really becoming this beautiful witness of it without shame. 'cause like man, people at work complain about work that's just like part of work culture. One of the things we were talking about, okay, so bringing your body into this experience, what do you think your body needs in this moment? So we talked about shifting tasks, like having the more thinky tasks in the earlier part of the day, creating the freedom to have some kind of open, spacious mind, even changing eye cues. So looking off into the distance, which will relax your eye muscles, which will send a message to your nervous system that it can relax, that you're in this parasympathetic mode, into this rest and digest. So like having a cup of tea. Talked about feeling emboldened to not always look like you're doing busy work. Like what if people see you doing nothing. So we kind of process some of that fear or those emotions we thought about the worries of like what other people are gonna think. This mind body work is complex. It's really fun when we stop trying to be like, what's the right answer to shifting into this curiosity mindset, because then anything can be looked at and explored and then we come up with so many more interesting and also kind of subtle or simple solutions.
[00:11:12] The answer is not get a new job, or the answer isn't stop working at four o'clock. I mean, it's maybe, but that's not always possible. And so we're like, yeah, what if you just like, knew by that time, like your big thinky tasks were done. And then this is a different kind of mindset time, maybe a more dreamy time, and then looking at the activities that she was doing, and also feeling relaxed and empowered to just be in her own process. And so much of that is this like subtle, pulling away of all of this socialized pressure of perfectionism, of striving, of needing people's approval, when we started thinking how can I continue to support myself even more and what are the systems that I am engaging with? One of the things that we were thinking about is the approach to problem solving.
[00:12:13] We were talking about a future event, spending time with family, and I was like, one of the things that's really fun in mind-body work is what is called positive affect induction. That's a formal part of pain reprocessing therapy, and mad respect to researchers or to therapists or to all these people, but I'm also just like, Positive affect induction. It's just called feeling good, finding good feelings, and it is definitely the thing that we often hide under the blanket of bad feelings.
[00:12:52] We're like we can't possibly feel good unless we resolve this feeling bad, but that is not true. It's just that we have trained our brain to be like, put the problem state, put the problem, in front and then the kind of good stuff that we want, we're we're telling ourself in this kind of system organization that we can only have it, experience it and enjoy it after we've fixed this problem. And I was like, oh, that puts so much pressure on ourselves and we're also making it be the very long way around.
[00:13:30] One of the things that my client and I, that I left her with was, when you're at this event, just ask your brain to find all the different ways that you're having a good time, that you're enjoying yourself. Just ask it gently to find you lots of evidence. We don't have to know what it is beforehand 'cause like maybe it's stuff that only is gonna happen in the moment, like maybe somebody's gonna sit on a plate of beans or like maybe grandma's gonna play a kazoo. Like we won't know ahead of time.
[00:14:01] Like we know some things, but we won't know what is gonna happen in the moment until it happens. And if, we're present to it and asking our brain in this beautiful attention system of ours to notice things on purpose and kind of come back and report. Right, so we can feel it in our bodies, it will literally do that.
[00:14:23] It's a neat trick. I really suggest you try it, especially if you're going into something already pre-planning, like all the ways that you're gonna take care of yourself when like things go wrong. And I'm not saying that that's the wrong thing to do, but when you, when you look at that through a systems lens, what you're doing is allocating a lot of resources to managing problems. And you're taking all of your attention, your energy, your mind, your body, your emotions, and you're warding off all these potential problems and there is no resources left to experience what there is to be delighted by in the moment.
[00:15:07] This positive affect induction is this experience that when I work with my clients, I do spend, I don't wanna say it's toxic positivity, 'cause all feelings are welcome, but what I notice is my clients get faster, better results when we start to work with the brains system and start to train it to look for things that are working, look for things that feel good, experience things, allowing pleasure, creating it on purpose, finding the smallest pieces of joy within a larger system. And because we are human. And we are not robots. Nothing is going to only feel good all of the time, but it's the story that we tell ourselves about the things that feel good and the stories that we tell ourselves about the things that feel less good.
[00:16:03] It's can be really fun when we kind of flip all of these systems upside down and inside out so that they can be building the system that supports you, supports this idea of change and supports this idea of mind body healing. And so we're changing our relationship to the emotions, sensations and experiences that we're having and we are working on creating more and more and more trust and safety.
[00:16:40] I think that's maybe all I wanna say. I just was like, okay, so now I'm noticing my brain just like, yeah, and it's time to take the laundry out of the dryer and fold it and maybe pack a suitcase. So I'm gonna listen to my system that feels really satisfied and happy to have gotten on here and kind of shared with you, a deep part of my process and as I have been coaching and working with people, I notice that change lives inside of this type of systems reorganization. It was a fun piece to notice that these things come together. The research from pain reprocessing therapy, listening to James Tripp, talking about systems theory, remembering Mark's systems theory and the conversations and the the wins that my clients are having, the way that their pain is changing and the way that their relationship with things like work, relationships in their life, stressors and things like that. Those things are shifting and changing and I just don't wanna be like, I don't know why. It must be a fluke. I do know why. This kind of systems process and thinking, helps us think about the circumstance, out of the trigger. Right. We're not necessarily just talking about a trigger, whether that's a person, an event, a physical sensation. We are not just talking about our thoughts and our feelings about it. We are sitting and observing ourself as a system. What is my mind doing? What is my body doing? What is self doing? The part that's on the inside doing, what is my brain doing?
[00:18:28] So I wanna invite you to start to think about your mind, your body, your brain, your nervous system as a system. And if it could communicate to you, like if you could observe it, what are you noticing about it? And then if we are going to try to get more of what we want to be experiencing, how do we ask this system to have that, to create that, to even just observe it.
[00:19:00] That's what I got for you today. If the way I talk about mindbody healing, the way I talk about pain reprocessing, it sounds interesting to you, I would love to talk to you and please hop on a curiosity call and let's chat. Thanks.
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| 10 Sep 2024 | S2E35 Your Body Loves You, Body Talk with Alora | 00:45:50 | |
In this episode my colleague Alora Kubanek talks about the evolution of her work from dance, to pilates to a mindbody movement centered body dialogue approach. Alora is the founder of ‘Befriend Your Body’ a body-positive online somatic coaching business. Her signature Body Dialogue sessions are designed to help improve the communication between the brain and body. Alora is a trauma-informed movement specialist who understands what its like to live with persistent and invisible conditions. She offers 1-1 support, guest teaching, and also collaborates with life coaches and thought leaders who want develop more embodied experiences. Book a free half hour curiosity call with me - https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/pain.coach.deb/ Website - https://www.thecuriositycure.com | |||
| 07 Mar 2024 | S2E17 Open Focus Alpha Brain Wave Synchrony Practice | 00:35:15 | |
Did you know that you can train your brain waves? Did you know that different types of brain waves are useful for different types of focus activities and learning. Since the research behind chronic pain explains it as a type of learning done by the brain, we can use a brain wave entrainment practice to teach the brain a new way of experiencing attention and focus. The work of neuroscientist Dr. Les Fehmi and his wife, therapist Susan Shor Fehmi, explores practices to help us reach a state of synchronous alpha brain waves and how it helps us manage stress and dissolve pain. I share with you an Open Focus practice and some information from their books and research. I've ramped up my practice of Open Focus and it's been helping me relax my mind and body and feel more grounded, centered and emotionally even keeled. I believe open focus training is an essential and simple practice to add to our mindbody tool kit to help us rewire our brains out of pain. Here's some of the resources I used for this podcast and further reading about Open Focus. A review of Open Focus from a meditation teacher
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| 10 Jan 2024 | S2E9 It's Hard To Read The Label From Inside The Jar | 00:46:41 | |
Enjoy a delightful chatty conversation between myself and Joan and I think maybe you will find her saying things that you've said to yourself or thought that my problems aren't big enough to work through or bring to coaching. What's the point if we're not working on giant things. But as Joan says, coaching is about having someone to help you read the label when you're inside the jar. Website Book a free half hour curiosity call with me - https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/pain.coach.deb/ Website - https://www.thecuriositycure.com | |||
| 28 Mar 2024 | S2E20 Drama Club vs Debate Club A Strategic Metaphor | 00:32:12 | |
I LOVE A METAPHOR! Uncertainty and stress: Why it causes diseases and how it is mastered by the brain. Interoception and Emotion Book a free half hour curiosity call with me - https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/pain.coach.deb/ Website - https://www.thecuriositycure.com | |||
| 09 Aug 2023 | Move With Deb, Episode 70, Evoking Emotions We Desire | 00:30:37 | |
Link to book a curiosity call - https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Transcript:
[00:00:55] Hello and welcome to move with Deb, the podcast soon, or eventually being renamed as a Curiosity Cure. But I'm Deb, your mind body hypno coach, pain reprocessing, emotional processing, and general cheerleader cheering you on ,and helping you understand the connections between the mind and the body, neuroplasticity, bioplasticity, and all of the processes that help us feel more, better, more of the time. That is me.
[00:01:32] I am happy to be here and chat with you today. Today's conversation is about This idea that I have been working on, which is being your own beloved. I don't know if I like those words, but those were the words that just popped into my mind right now.
[00:01:53] I was at the pool the other day and I, one of the things that I enjoy about my community pool is that it is a Amazing resource for this incredible neighborhood and beyond. Anybody can go to it and there's so many families and there's so many, just like different people all gathered together having fun.
[00:02:17] This kind of controlled chaos. It's definitely not a place to go if I just wanted a quiet lap swim experience. And I've really worked on my own, kind of my own mind, body work, my own processing to be like, yes, and I can get my needs met going to this pool, even though it's a little loud, even though it's a little chaotic, even though there are no swim lanes.
[00:02:45] Even though, even though, even though I am choosing to be here. And all of my MINDBODY skills really come in handy when I'm in this space. And I really love being able to practice creating incredible experiences for myself inside of containers that I can't control everything. Because here's the paradox.
[00:03:06] In MINDBODY work, what we often discover is pain behaviors Are often born out of this desire to control because of course, of course we wanna control things that we are not liking. Of course, we want to change things or get away from things that we believe are triggers for our pain or discomfort or uncomfortable experiences.
[00:03:30] And what sometimes that leads to is this habituated practice of the first response is, I'm going to control. I'm gonna control the environment around me, so then I don't have the trigger, so then I don't experience the symptoms. One of the ways out of it is to create that locus of control within ourselves and intentionally put ourselves in situations in which there are things that are happening that we can't control.
[00:04:00] And usually it's really good to do this paired with a desire. So I really wanted to swim and there are not that many options for where I live currently to like go create that happening. But there happens to be this amazing pool right down the street from where I live that's open during the summer. And I was noticing I wasn't going because you know, I was like, oh, they don't have any lap swim times.
[00:04:30] They used to have lap swim times, right? So now I'm all like, they took something away from me or there's something that I expected and desired and needed and wanted to be there, and now it's not there, so now I can't go. Right. That's all an internal dialogue, so I don't know if any of that internal dialogue is familiar to you.
[00:04:51] But I kept noticing like that desire, wanting to be there, and I was like, well, what if I also really get to practice this incredible experience of taking exquisite care of myself, creating this version of meeting that desire within this container that I don't control everything in it is not going to be the perfect swimming experience.
[00:05:19] And I know that going in, but how can I make this swimming experience perfect for me? And that's really the beauty of this work because in the end result is I get to go swimming. And I also get to learn how to really have my own back inside of experiences where I am not in charge of everything.
[00:05:41] I am not in control of everything. And I also have to deal with other people who are having their own experiences and sometimes we are not matching up. So. I have been going to the pool and it's been lovely. And of course the first thing I noticed was my brain was catastrophizing all the ways it was going to be awful or difficult or a struggle or like not what I want.
[00:06:10] Then, and I got there and I like, you know, made sure I had my lock and I, you know, followed the rules and I showed up and I was like, I am showing up for me. No matter what happens. I am happy to be here. That was my like, First swim time where I was like, I am at least showing up for the me that wants to be here and wants to do this, and wants to try, even though I don't know how it's gonna go, and I don't know if my needs are going to be met.
[00:06:47] Now there are a few things I wanna say. I have been there before, so I had a memory of having been there, having successfully gone swimming, and so that kind of implicit knowledge I could rely on and that sometimes is very helpful. So I'm not going in completely blind, like I don't know anything. I knew a lot, so I was like, okay getting into that embodied sense of like, oh, I can really trust some things that I know about this situation. I. I also don't have a, specific access need. So like, I actually, this pool has a ramp and so, and I've been having some foot pain, so I also knew like, oh, I wasn't gonna have to like, climb in and out of a ladder. And some people's bodies that's accessible and some people's bodies, that's not accessible. So I knew that there was a ramp. A gentle sloping ramp that went into the pool. And I was like, I knew that. So I knew I would be able to get in and out of the pool. So those things are also important depending on who you are, what your body is like, what you feel capable of.
[00:07:57] Sometimes we're capable of things and we don't think we are. And so there's like a mismatch over there and there's some emotional intensity or content that can be worked with. And sometimes it's just like being willing to show up and see what happens, planning ahead for how you are going to take care of yourself.
[00:08:19] Maybe it's asking for help. Maybe it's bringing a friend. Maybe it's just psyching yourself up into like, Hey, you know what? Like even if this doesn't work, I'm gonna give myself a big hug and a pat on the back and, I'm really gonna be proud of myself that I tried. So, but for me, I knew these things about this pool and sometimes it is scouting something out ahead of time that can also be a part of a process, right?
[00:08:46] So sometimes it's not just like, rip the bandaid off, go see what happens. And like, If you're in a dissociated state, sometimes that's, that's like a part of this experience. So we wanna find ways for our nervous system to be gentle in a process where we can be a good ally with ourself. So I did a bunch of that kind of stuff beforehand. And I went to the pool and of course, as it often is, it wasn't as, crowded as I thought it was gonna be. It wasn't as hard to find space for just my body to move around in the way that I wanted it to be. Of course there are lots of diverse bodies in the pool wearing all kinds of bathing suits, so that is just really fun.
[00:09:39] I, you know, knew that intellectually, but it was fun, as I am in the pool as a person in a larger body, and I'm wearing my two piece bathing suit, I am also looking around at the diversity of bodies and noticing who's around me. I. Oh my God, they're having fun. Isn't that delightful? And really filling myself up with this feeling of belonging.
[00:10:08] I belong here. I. This is my pool and it is their pool. And it is our pool. So feeling connected to this larger community by sharing this space together and recognizing like I am able to, to hold the duality that there are some things that I might want and not get. And there's a lot of things that I'm getting, and I'm only getting this experience because I am here putting myself in the pool.
[00:10:46] I can't sit at home and read about going to pools. I can't just look up pools and think about going to a pool. If I want the experience of floating swimming, being immersed in water, I need to go actually do it. And for me, that final piece of action is sometimes, it's such a powerful, full acknowledgement of desire where I can meet my own desires.
[00:11:18] When I do it over and over again, I feel incredibly powerful because nobody else can go swim for me. I have to be the one to go, and I figured out a way that was gonna be amazing. And so while I was there, part of my mind body work is like, okay, I have this beautiful attention system. What is it that my eyeballs are seeing? What is it my senses are feeling? How can I use these experiences for my highest benefit?
[00:11:52] So I was looking around and I was watching all of these parents or caregivers with these little babies or small children and really watching this incredible care and delight and sweetness. And like the holding a baby, floating in the water and just the looks from the children to the adults and from the adults to the children. That quality on their faces of love, of caring. I, oh, I'm getting emotional of feeling held. And I just let that flow through me and I started imagining the experience of being held, and I just started noticing what the water felt like as it's holding me.
[00:12:51] And then I started to think about you. My listeners and about my clients and about myself, who is also my client, and I was thinking about the experience of being held, and I noticed that my brain wanted to go to the past and think about relationships that I'm no longer in. And I could tell that my, like rumination brain wanted to really pick up that thread and start its ruminating and thinking about the past and thinking about different relationships and breakups and endings.
[00:13:29] And I was like, okay, brain, I see you. And yes, all of that is true. Actually, what I want is to evoke and revivify that experience of being held, and then my brain wanted to launch into the future, thinking about will I ever be held again? Will I have these kinds of relationships? What will it be like when I do X, Y, and Z when I date, when I blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
[00:14:00] Again, leaving the present moment and thinking about, and let's be real, when we're thinking about the future, are we just worrying or are we thinking about the future and being like, yeah, in the future, when I am held, it will feel like this. That wasn't really what I was thinking, so I'm gonna tell on myself, right?
[00:14:28] Noticing my brain wants to solve this problem of being held or not being held, and what does it mean about me and my desirability and oh my God. You know, all of a sudden I'm not even in the pool. Like I don't even have a body, like I'm not even present in my experience, this experience that I actually intentionally cultivated for my self.
[00:14:58] So I noticed that was happening and you know, I talk about noticing what is happening in our mind and body all the time. So I noticed that was happening and I took that as an invitation to come back to the present moment. And I said, what would it feel like if I were to invite just this open, spacious experience of being held right now in the pool?
[00:15:23] Just letting my imagination kind of run with it. And I knew I should have recorded this right after that experience because now I can't remember exactly what happened. But that is also the beauty because it's a, it's a liminal experience. It is not about the actual narrative story. It is about the feelings that are evoked when I went on a mind journey, when I went on an imagination journey.
[00:15:58] And maybe that's something we can do together right now, which is just wherever you are, as long as you're not driving or doing heavy machinery or you know, in a place where you can let your imagination wander, allow yourself to just relax and maybe your eyes are feeling heavy and they wanna close, or maybe they're staying open. There's no wrong way to do this, and just noticing your body feeling settled and placing your attention on your breath, and just inviting in a big breath and then exhaling twice as long. And then just imagining. Whatever it is for you, that feeling of being held. So for me, I was in the water and I had just looked at all of these babies being held i. By loving arms and loving eyes and smiling faces.
[00:16:59] And so I had that warm love feeling inside of me and I just emanated that feeling around me. And now I'm revivifying it, but it's different and it's just what it is now. So I'm imagining this love bubble kind of growing to hold me, hold my whole body as we're floating in this beautiful warm pool surrounded by loving people.
[00:17:28] And now this warm love bubble is just holding me. It's almost like this bubble is made of helium and I am just floating and bouncing and being held by this warm and loving container. And I can feel the coolness of the pool and the water around me, and every time I would float and feel that, and feel the kind of difference between the coolness of the water and the warmness of the air and the bubble, and just letting that penetrate my skin and my being.
[00:18:09] And I sometimes open my eyes and I would see the clouds. And if you're a long time listener of this podcast, you'll know that clouds are really, I consider clouds my friend. And so clouds are this kind of space where I get to go and be free and float and feel love. And so I am connecting in love with the clouds and feeling my heart, that love and that warmth really just penetrating my skin and flowing through my body. I. Just like my heart is pumping, warm life-giving blood, and moving oxygen around inside of me, just feeling, th flowing through inside of me, flowing from my heart all the way to the tiniest capillaries, and coming back in and being this cycle of love and feeling held both by the water, by my heart, by my intention of creating this held, loving experience for myself to rest in.
[00:19:30] I remember having kind of a wave of grief flowing through and just being like, yes, that's right. Sometimes we feel things and just inviting that me into this bubble to be held. Alongside of the me that was already being held, and now I'm imagining actually me embracing me inside this bubble me embracing the me who is feeling grief, that is feeling these tears rolling off my cheeks.
[00:20:03] And just letting it be okay to feel held while having an emotion. And just as I keep breathing and sensing into this space around me, feeling held, feeling loved, knowing that I am growing my capacity and my sense of strength in this experience. Growing the love, but also being the love, being the holder of love, being the transmitter of love, and being the receiver and all of this happening in my imagination as I am floating, in this water that I have created this experience for myself.
[00:20:55] And now of course you can create this as you're laying in bed in the morning. Sometimes it's really beautiful to start your day already feeling held. So maybe you can ask yourself, how would I like to feel at the end of the day? And then start your day just spending a little time evoking that feeling for yourself.
[00:21:20] And just feeling into it. What is it gonna feel like? What does it feel like now when I feel accomplished or grounded or connected in myself? You can just play and let your imagination go where it wants to go and help you connect with these feelings.
[00:21:44] That feeling of being held, I think is so powerful because in mind body work, we often talk about self-compassion and or maybe like self-compassion as a resting place. And we're also talking about invoking positive affect, right? Which is just a way of saying feeling good. And so we have a lot of narratives in this capitalist culture and in Christian theology, I believe, right?
[00:22:14] Of having to earn love, having to earn our place, having to earn God's favor and a lot of that gets transmuted into like, well, we're not allowed to feel certain things until we've done certain things. And I think that mythology creates some harm. And certainly there's value in doing in creating, but we shouldn't make ourselves have to earn love or just the things that we need. And I would love for the world to be organized in that way and at least here in this country, it is not necessarily currently, but we can start reclaiming some of that not needing to earn for ourselves. So right in the morning, we can start by really sensing into our incredible and immutable worth and value as a human being just for existing.
[00:23:14] How amazing would that be when you wake up and that's the reminder that you're giving yourself, not, I'm behind, I am late, I'm a fuck up. I can't tell you how many years I unknowingly, subconsciously reinforce this belief that I had already failed before the day even started. If I do one thing in my life unwinding that story and I, I actually, actually, now that I think about it, I think I have unwound that story.
[00:23:46] Like that doesn't happen anymore. And it, it's this thing where I have a podcast called The Despair of Disbelief. It's sometimes it's the, you know, we can understand something cognitively, but somatically, we're still in that old belief, and that can be an incredibly painful place to be because we're like, I understand it, I understand it.
[00:24:09] I have the insight and the knowledge in my mind, but the rest of me is not on board. The rest of me is not agreeing. Sometimes we wanna do what I call going to debate club and we wanna go duke it out. But really the answer is, I've said before to go to drama club, which is we want to go to the feeling, we want to match the feeling with the belief that we are trying to have.
[00:24:40] So if we believe, we deserve love and we have immutable worth and value as humans, as all people do just for existing. And we need to practice that feeling and we're going to, our body will be the one that is finishing that creative process and. This is I guess, a form of fake it till you make it, but like it's the neuroplasticity version of fake it till you make it.
[00:25:10] So we're not faking it, we're evoking it to believe it. We're practicing the smallest version of it. We don't know how it's gonna actually show up for ourselves six months from now, but if we practice a version of it now, and if we even unleash our beautiful imagination to just make it up and let it just be something creative.
[00:25:41] We get to just really feel, so you wake up in the morning and you're like, and then just take a moment and be like, oh no. Right now, this is the time where I'm practicing feeling held and loved and just be like, okay, yeah. What does that feel like today? I'm gonna lay in bed. I'm gonna imagine a bubble or a cloud or a big hand holding me, or I am myself and a baby, or you know, I don't know, some a Muppet or a character from a favorite movie or your own child, or, you know, right. This is where imagination is so helpful because it doesn't have to be real, as long as the feeling is real and then we just play and feel. And then it's like, okay, and we just practice it in the smallest moments, in the tiniest bits, in these moments where we're feeling triggered and we're like, ah, what do I do?
[00:26:50] And I'm like, okay. We go into this feeling just for a moment to meet ourselves where we are and evoke the feeling of how we want to be feeling. And that's, Neuroplasticity, that's Bioplasticity. We are attending and tuning our nervous system through the power of our imagination and evoking a different state, and it is powerful work and it is not hard.
[00:27:22] So that's my invitation to you to just start to practice. How can you do that? Are there things that are already existing in your life that really give you that good feeling? Okay where do you feel that good feeling? How can you spread it around? Where else would you like that good feeling to be? Can you imagine it as something that you apply to yourself? Maybe you're in a work meeting and you have some lotion and you're like putting the lotion on your hand, but really in the lotion, you've infused this like good, calm, confident feeling, and every time you put the lotion on, you're like, yeah.
[00:28:08] This feels really good, this confidence, this belief that yeah, I know what I'm doing, right? So there's so many different ways to play with it and honestly you can't get it wrong. So, and if that is something that you would love to do, With a guide, with a coach. Uh, some people love to like super d i y stuff on their own and I am here for it 'cause I am that person who did not like to go to the shoe store and have people pick out shoes for me and put them on my feet.
[00:28:41] I. I love to go like to the big box stores or pay less, which I think was the first one. And like, go find the shoe and put it on my own feet. And you know, maybe that's, some of that is a trauma response and maybe some of that is just like, I like to be in my own time, in my own space doing my own thing.
[00:29:01] But I will say we are meant to be connected. Our nervous systems are designed that way, so in whatever way, I wanna encourage you to, even in your imagination, reach out and connect with other people in whatever way feels safe for you right now. So if you are like, Hey, I might wanna do this with a coach. I might want to be held in a container where I can really feel free to explore and to evoke and to create this MINDBODY experience that I would rather be having over the one that I'm currently having, then I wanna encourage you to book a curiosity call with me and you just like pop on the link, make an appointment, and we have a conversation and see if working together is something that you think would feel good and help you. I would love to meet you.
[00:30:03] As you know, as I say, I can go on and on, so I'm getting to practice being succinct. Today's practice is about imagination and evoking pleasant sensory states. And I hope you have fun. If you do and you're like, this is so cool, lemme know. I would love to know how you are using this beautiful, beautiful brain of yours and all of your senses to help create an experience for yourself.
[00:30:34] I always love to hear about it. All right, take care. Book a free half hour curiosity call with me - https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/pain.coach.deb/ Website - https://www.thecuriositycure.com | |||
| 21 Feb 2025 | S2E45 Pain Recovery Therapy and Political Stress | 00:46:23 | |
In this episode Nyle and I talk about his pain recovery journey from Burning Mouth Syndrome. We talk about evidence that pain is correlated with marginalization and how we can apply mindbody work for our body sense of wellness especially for times like these. He shares his work with transgender + queer clients and his expansion to pain recovery and leads me through an activity. Nyle Biondi, MS LMFT, is a therapist and coach, specializing in mind-body healing for chronic pain and trauma. With a deep commitment to the trans and queer communities, he helps clients break free from the physical and emotional toll of oppression, stress, and past wounds. His work integrates neuroplasticity, attachment healing, and nervous system regulation to support lasting transformation. Through therapy, workshops, and educational resources, he empowers people to reconnect with their bodies, reclaim their worth, and heal from chronic conditions at the root level. https://www.healingwithinpsychotherapy.com/ https://www.healingwithinpsychotherapy.com/blog https://healyourchronicpain.thinkific.com/products/live_events/live-event-pain-free-pathway https://www.healingwithinpsychotherapy.com/blog/reclaiming-your-worth-through-meditation Book a free half hour curiosity call with me - https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/pain.coach.deb/ Website - https://www.thecuriositycure.com | |||
| 27 Mar 2025 | S2E47 Not As Fragile As I Fear | 01:23:12 | |
I'm so honored to be talking to Vanessa Blackstone, the Executive Director of The Pain Psychology Center and co-author of The Pain Reprocessing Therapy Workbook. While we don't necessarily go through the workbook on this podcast, I really recommend you get it. Instead I was inspired by how Vanessa spoke about the idea of safety during a workshop I attended. I noticed that she didn't just lead with the idea of experiencing your symptoms through a lens of safety, but instead asked what does safety mean. And I wanted to bring in her voice both as a woman of color who works with people who have experienced trauma and might have lived experiences of marginalization from the mainstream. Safety is a feeling that can be cultivated but she suggests an empowered approach of self inquiry and curiosity, and beginning to embrace the belief, "I am not as fragile as I fear I am." She views PRT foundations as understand, practice, integrate, we explore how psychoeducation around neuroplastic pain, self compassionate witnessing and exposure to sensations, discomfort and stressors can become opportunities for building or rebuilding self trust. She shares so many fantastic client stories as well as her own growth and learning. I cannot wait to have her back on the podcast to share more of what will be coming from her work and The Pain Psychology Center. I emplore you to listen, relisten and take notes on what ideas you can start to practice now. And don't forget to pick up her book! Bio - Vanessa M. Blackstone, MSW, citizen of the Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians Nation, is executive director of the Pain Psychology Center. She earned her MS in social work from the University of Southern California. Following her own personal recovery from chronic pain, Vanessa began her career as a therapist in 2018. She was one of the first clinical consultants at the Pain Reprocessing Therapy Center and has helped train hundreds of practitioners in pain reprocessing therapy (PRT). In addition to chronic pain treatment, she specializes in sex therapy, substance use and recovery, mindfulness-based relapse prevention, and works on film sets as an onset wellness professional. Outside of her professional roles, Vanessa is a former foster youth who advocates for current and former foster youth by sharing her personal experiences in public speaking events. She lives in Los Angeles, CA.
Website - https://blackstonewellness.com/ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/that.therapist Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100065282659040&mibextid=wwXIfr Resources mentioned: The Five Invitations - https://fiveinvitations.com/ The Pain Psychology Center - https://painpsychologycenter.com/ Book a free half hour curiosity call with me - https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/pain.coach.deb/ Website - https://www.thecuriositycure.com | |||
| 18 Jul 2024 | S2E30 Mindbody Approach to Bike Riding | 00:17:33 | |
Today's podcast is my exploration into using my mindbody tools and practice to approach an activity desire I have, riding my bike. This has been a tough one and I am noticing some shame and fear arising. But I'm dedicated to exploring curiosity and what an approaching vs. avoidance strategy might look like.
I can't wait to bring this "problem" with me to Hypnothoughts Live and explore what hypnosis skills I can apply to make this feel easy, fun and successful to acheive. I hope you follow along and connect with an activity or desire you might have in your life. Book a free half hour curiosity call with me - https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/pain.coach.deb/ Website - https://www.thecuriositycure.com | |||
| 24 Jan 2025 | S2E42 Ease vs Easy | 00:28:20 | |
It will not surprise any of my long time listeners to know that I was getting coached regarding feeling frustrated that editing THIS podcast wasn't easy. So ding ding ding if you are stuck in the spiral of frustration of things not feeling easy you are not alone. Let's unpack how that feels in our body and why pursuing easy actually makes things harder. Ease is a learnable skill we can practice and apply to any situation. And once I got over laughing at myself for my very meta and oh so human experience, I was able to ask myself, what are the thoughts, feelings and actions that will help bring ease to this process. I'm very happy to be bringing this essential and underrated skill to share with you. Gene Kelly in Singing In The Rain - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swloMVFALXw Book a free half hour curiosity call with me - https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/pain.coach.deb/ Website - https://www.thecuriositycure.com | |||
| 23 May 2024 | S2E25 Knee Update, Strong Like Simba | 00:28:05 | |
Here's an update about my knee pain recovery journey after my injury or flare in The Galapagos. When PT was only making my pain feel worse, I uncovered some relational fears and talk you through my current process and how I'm helping my mind and body find safety, create the environment for healing and how I re-found a mantra "Strong Like Simba." Here's links for all the awesome resources I describe in the podcast. Journal Speak - https://www.thecureforchronicpain.com/journalspeak
Indigo's Testimonial - https://www.thecuriositycure.coach/p/client-results Book a free half hour curiosity call with me - https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/pain.coach.deb/ Website - https://www.thecuriositycure.com | |||
| 10 May 2024 | S2E24 Embracing Glorious Chaotic Mess with Sophie | 01:09:41 | |
This episode my client Sophie leads you on her journey out of 20 years of chronic pain. It was her idea to name this podcast Glorious Chaotic Mess. And that speaks to how healing perfectionism can lead to full body healing and a change in relationship with the messages from the body and her mindbody connection. She shares how our work together not only made a substantial difference with her pain but in her life as a whole. Book a free half hour curiosity call with me - https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/pain.coach.deb/ Website - https://www.thecuriositycure.com | |||
| 27 Dec 2024 | S2E41 Processing Grief Pain with a Mindbody Lens | 00:56:28 | |
Content note - in this episode I share with you details about my father's + mother's deaths. Please take good care of yourself while you're listening if listening to someone speak about death is difficult for you. I'm back with a personal story of how mindbody wellbeing skills have helped me through the difficult time of my father's recent passing. Milton was almost 98 1/2 years old when he died earlier this month. He will be missed greatly. May his memory be a blessing for all who knew him. It's been a full circle experience for me, navigating elder care, covid life changes and the ongoing care of a loved on with dementia. In this episode I share my experiences of how I used my understanding of mind, body, nervous system along with memory reconsolidation and trauma empowerment to help support me during this difficult time. Book a free half hour curiosity call with me - https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/pain.coach.deb/ Website - https://www.thecuriositycure.com | |||
| 03 Apr 2025 | S2E48 Learning By Imagining | 00:32:49 | |
This episode has been inspired by my own process of moving from stuckness + fear into action and loving self connection. It seems like wherever I am in my process, these principles are essential for change, noticing, curiosity, and consent. Recovery from neuroplastic symptoms is a dance of intimacy, intimacy with ourselves. And being on board with doing this work takes bravery, stubborness in the best way, stubborn for our future selves. And it also takes getting into the heart of love. In this podcast I share some ideas I've been using for myself to help shift my physical and emotional energy. I imagine there's at least one idea I offer here that might inspire you. I have openings in my schedule for new clients. Have you wanted a coach to ride alongside you on your healing journey? Do you hate the words, healing journey? No problem, I can help you find just the right way for you to conceptualize these ideas and move you forward in your unique to you process. I'm kind of like one of those sleep mattress number beds, soft when you want and more firm when you need. Book a free curiosity call and let's talk. Book a free half hour curiosity call with me - https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/pain.coach.deb/ Website - https://www.thecuriositycure.com | |||
| 22 Feb 2024 | S2E15 Cue Conditioning + Triggering Neuroplasticity | 00:36:01 | |
https://changingminds.org/techniques/conditioning/cue.htm https://med.stanford.edu/sbfnl/services/bm/lm/bml-fear.html https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/psychology/contextual-fear-conditioning https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/neuroscience/fear-conditioning https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1074742710000845 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0165178116308770 Book a free half hour curiosity call with me - https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/pain.coach.deb/ Website - https://www.thecuriositycure.com | |||
| 22 Apr 2025 | S2E50 Transforming Avoidance Into Change | 00:29:40 | |
This episode was inspired by the conversation I had with therapist Caryn Sherbet, which will be my next podcast. They're a new PRT therapist and we chatted about the gifts of exposure response therapy for all kinds of situations we encounter that trigger our avoidance response. In this episode, I take you through two experiences that are more aligned with emotional pain but hey you all know that can often be a trigger for physical pain, or go hand in hand with it (hey that's a great podcast idea). But I walk you through the avoidance/approach process that I used to help me transform two tender emotional experiences I was having that was causing me to avoid taking aligned actions. In the process I was able to further neutralize two stories that I've been carrying around for years, "I don't get things done" and "Being fat means I'm not worthy of love (and not currently being in a relationship is proof)." As I say in the episode, I'm in a fierce transformation phase of my life, having finished the majority of heavy lifting of activities around my Dad's passing as well as the coming of Spring. As I get more friendly with what triggers avoidance, I'm able to gently use my tools of neuroplasticity and psychophysiological recoding processes to rewire those habitual responses from a place of self compassion and strength vs. secretly reinforcing my old belief systems. Having a self connecting intention is the key to this approach. I'm opening my doors for working with new clients. Please book a curiosity call and let's chat about how working together can help you feel more better more of the time. Or all of the time, don't let me create any limitations on how good it can get! Book a free half hour curiosity call with me - https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/pain.coach.deb/ Website - https://www.thecuriositycure.com | |||
| 28 Aug 2024 | S2E34 Neurodivergence + the Inner Conversation | 01:01:43 | |
Hello my feelers + healers! Today's conversation with Mattia takes us through their journey with chronic pain, feeling better, and the ways they navigate their inner mindbody conversation as someone with AuDHD + PDA. We touch upon themes of neurodivergence, gender transition, resourcing inner + external safety. We chat about using hypnotic techniques to decrease a sense of threat/unsafety that may accompany disorders like ehlers-danlos syndrome and POTS.
Main (starter podcast page): https://www.audhdflourishing.com/hello Like Your Brain (peer support community): https://www.patreon.com/mattia - so good! I'm in here and love it. Love Your Brain (course): https://www.audhdflourishing.com/challenge-page/joinlyb Related recovery stories that might be of interest. Most are not my clients but they are working with the mindbody healing techniques, theories and resources that I speak about on this podcast: Book a free half hour curiosity call with me - https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/pain.coach.deb/ Website - https://www.thecuriositycure.com | |||
| 03 Jun 2024 | S2E26 Self Healing The Mindbody Circus of Symptoms with Dani Fagan | 01:00:41 | |
I had the pleasure of interviewing one of my favorite TMS educators and most kind and HILARIOUS colleagues.... Here's Dani in her own words, I specialise in the care of the chronic condition/mind-body medicine community, having healed from years of chronic pain and anxiety using mindbody tools myself. My approach to healing harnesses the power of the nervous by training the body-mind into a place of safety and out of survival mode. I teach gentle yoga, meditation and breathwork tailored to the self-healing community and coach in the form of online courses and masterclasses. Please be sure to check out Dani's work and listen for clues to help you borrow belief that healing is possible for you and that this journey can be full of connection and compassion both with ourselves and with community.
Dani's website that has everything. Instagram Facebook Book a free half hour curiosity call with me - https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/pain.coach.deb/ Website - https://www.thecuriositycure.com | |||
| 21 Mar 2024 | S2E19 Autogenic Training for Pain + Anxiety | 00:34:53 | |
This week's episode is another practice. This time it's a follow along repeating sentence relaxation + repetition practice called Autogenic Training. I'm reading to you a script I discovered in a great overview document from the VA. I also share the research about this practice showing that it's a very effective self led activity to help with pain + fear reduction. Which of course are the two main issues with neuroplastic pain.
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| 10 Jul 2024 | S2E29 Petra's Pain Recovery Dream Life | 00:43:14 | |
Petra Schmider, a former client now colleague of mine tells the story of her recovery from years of chronic pain and disability to living a life of her dreams and helping others do the same. Petra's bio - She was a stock broker and later financial planner before kids, now she's am a Pain Recovery Coach, Mind Body Coach, certified Rapid Transformational Therapy® Practitioner and certified Hypnotherapist. You can find Petra at https://www.painawaycoach.com/ Book a free half hour curiosity call with me - https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/pain.coach.deb/ Website - https://www.thecuriositycure.com | |||
| 13 Dec 2023 | S2E5 a chat with adrienne maree brown | 01:14:16 | |
Quotes were selected from Good Reads - https://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/1536532.Adrienne_Maree_Brown You can find out more about adrienne maree brown's books, podcast and more here - https://adriennemareebrown.net/ Books can be ordered directly from AK Press here - https://www.akpress.org/catalogsearch/result/index/?p=2&q=adrienne+marlee+brown
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| 26 Jul 2024 | S2E31 Avoidance Curiosity Your Secret Superhero Power | 00:32:40 | |
Today's podcast we're covering the magic that can happen when we stop avoiding getting curious about what we're avoiding? Have I confused you? Just listen to this and practice peeking in with gentleness about what gets you digging a hole, falling into it and then using all your energy to crawl out of it. Learn how curiosity can lead you to quick results by titrating just the right exposure of what you're avoiding that you can begin to easily neutralize it.
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| 05 Mar 2025 | S2E46 IFS For Politically Impacted Bodies | 01:06:37 | |
My colleague and friend Phil de la Haye is back on the podcast to share a personal experience with his mind-body tools, particularly IFS (internal family systems) to address his body’s response to the anti-transgender political actions enacted after the inauguration. We speak of the ways to think of safety both intrinsic and extrinsic to help regulate the nervous system and quiet the pain alarm even while real threats to safety are unfolding daily. We discuss how anger helps us to move out of a shut down state and motivates action. We deserve to feel better and cannot wait until the next election or whatever comes next. We are the ones our young parts have been waiting for.
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| 01 Feb 2024 | S2E12 Most CBNP Is Neuroplastic WOW | 00:35:28 | |
Episode 19 of my podcast - Hard Times Happen Study on Painkillers and Emotional Pain Application of a Clinical Approach to Diagnosing Primary Pain: Prevalence and Correlates of Primary Back and Neck Pain in a Community Physiatry Clinic LA Times Article - Opinion: That pain in your back? It’s really a pain in your brain. Book a free half hour curiosity call with me - https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/pain.coach.deb/ Website - https://www.thecuriositycure.com | |||
| 19 Aug 2024 | S2E33 The Magnet Approach | 00:18:13 | |
This episode I talk about a mindbody healing tool The Magnet Approach and an activity called The Drop Through. Again the goal is to help your brain and nervous system address your threat physiology detection system and working with your brain in creating change on purpose. Gentle neuroplasticity encourage us that how we attend is a part of the neuro-somatic rewiring process. Also I enjoyed the F out of a cold cold river. Book a free half hour curiosity call with me - https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/pain.coach.deb/ Website - https://www.thecuriositycure.com | |||
| 04 Apr 2024 | S2E21 MBS + IFS with Phil de la Haye | 00:47:07 | |
Phil de la Haye is an Internal Family Systems practitioner and coach with a particular interest in the mindbody connection and chronic physical symptoms. Phil has his own history of chronic pain recovery and he’s passionate about supporting others through their own process of healing. He and I have a fantastic conversation that can only happen when two people who speak the same language and share some overlaps in our experiences of chronic pain and our healing as well as how we help our clients feel better. We talk about the impacts of stress on various communities like queer + trans people and the overwhelming overlaps of pain conditions and medically unexplained symptoms that we are seeing. Instagram - Check out his website - Link to the research article about chronic pain + sexual minorities - Book a free half hour curiosity call with me - https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/pain.coach.deb/ Website - https://www.thecuriositycure.com | |||
| 14 Feb 2025 | S2E44 The path alongside fear, LGBTQIA, social threat + pain recovery | 00:47:59 | |
Mindbody therapist Sean Hershey, LCSW and I are talking about growing up queer, navigating symptoms, symptom recovery and meeting this moment in time in history. You might be having amplified physical + emotional pain right now in response to the onslaught of political shenanigans that have been happening this month and also might have been growing for you since the election or even before then. You aren't alone and we've hoping this conversation helps you understand a little bit more the links between your physical sensations and what's happening in the world. Acknowledging and befriending fear is one part of creating spaciousness and safety. And being rebelliously self affirming, knowing that your life is valid and even exquisite, regardless of any opinions of governments, institutions, family or anyone is another way to begin to reclaim a sense of self efficacy, subconscious security and build life sustaining connections. Stay tuned for more conversations with The Curiosity Cure podcast. Book a free half hour curiosity call with me - https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/pain.coach.deb/ Website - https://www.thecuriositycure.com | |||
| 16 Oct 2024 | S2E37 Knee Pain on the Good Knee Sourcing Emotional Safety | 01:03:46 | |
Buckle in Feelers + Healers. This is a long and windy episode. It starts with the most recent experience of Hurricane Milton and goes back in time to late August and an acute knee pain experience and the emotional stressors I was facing around that time which may have contributed to my flare. Having recovered from that experience, I wanted to talk through my mindset, emotional processing and mindbody approach that I took to reduce my pain and regain function. As always, with any new and acute pain, please speak to your doctor, and make sure that there's no injury or infection that needs medical care. My choices and decisions around my body are my own and not intended to be diagnostic for anyone else. Here's the link for Lesley's book - https://bookshop.org/p/books/two-whole-cakes-how-to-stop-dieting-and-learn-to-love-your-body-lesley-kinzel/10413288?ean=9781558617933 Book a free half hour curiosity call with me - https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/pain.coach.deb/ Website - https://www.thecuriositycure.com | |||
| 26 Sep 2023 | Move With Deb, Episode 72, Weaving Spells, Breaking Curses | 00:25:17 | |
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| 30 Nov 2024 | S2E40 Sam's Success Strategy | 00:48:16 | |
I hope you enjoy this conversation with my client Sam Cooper. They had been suffering for years with recurring back pain, that limited their mobility and their belief about their body's capacity as they aged. Through our work together they were able to return back to much loved and missed activities, expand into new ones as well as make significant life changes. Sam is an AuDHD coach, a queer nonbinary femme (they/them), an intersectional feminist, and an elder millennial (Xennial). They help neurodivergent adults (ADHD, Autistic, AuDHD, OCD) who have unconventional lives to understand and embrace their unique neurotypes, so they can effectively minimize stress, overcome challenges, and improve their quality of life. Book a free half hour curiosity call with me - https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/pain.coach.deb/ Website - https://www.thecuriositycure.com | |||
| 14 Mar 2024 | S2E18 Making Work + Recovery Fun | 01:03:46 | |
This week's episode is an interview that I did with Natasha and Maria from the podcast Making Work Fun. I was so excited to talk to them because so often my clients have chronic pain in conjunction with stressful jobs, or find the idea of trying to work while also experiencing chronic pain impossible. Let's face it, work often has a lot of pressure, demands both internal and external, as well as complex social landscapes that can be challenging to navigate. How we deal with our physical body at work can be a trigger for ongoing pain. Learning how to attune and tend to ourselves in these environments can help and change is possible. On this podcast we unpack how approaching pain in a light and joyful way can be incredibly helpful and healing. And how pain management actually has parallels to other challenges in our lives, including work drama. To get in touch with Natasha: Book a free half hour curiosity call with me - https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/pain.coach.deb/ Website - https://www.thecuriositycure.com | |||
| 28 Feb 2024 | S2E16 Pain Chat with Integrative Hypnotist Melissa Tiers | 00:49:41 | |
My hypnosis teacher Melissa Tiers and I geek out about the brain and how hypnosis and coaching through metaphor can have profound benefits for the body. Melissa Tiers is the founder of The Center For Integrative Hypnosis, and co-founder of the Ethical Coaching Collective. She is also a multi-award-winning author, coach, hypnosis trainer, and a three-time recipient of the International Medical and Dental Association's prestigious Pen and Quill Award for her books. Starting in March she has an integrative hypnosis training for anyone who's curious about adding this modality to their work. Instagram
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| 04 Jul 2024 | S2E28 Knee Pain, What Knee Pain? | 00:33:24 | |
Here's my most recently update about my knee pain and this episode also wanders off into a list of permissions that we can give ourselves for our healing journey and for our life. What might be different for you in 3 months if you learned how to master these mind body connection skills? Book a free half hour curiosity call with me - https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/pain.coach.deb/ Website - https://www.thecuriositycure.com | |||
| 22 Nov 2023 | S2E2 Getting Curious About Chronic Pain with Dr. Joan | 01:00:21 | |
Dr. Joan and I discuss how GP's can understand chronic pain through a new lens can open up a whole new way of talking to patients and asking questions that can evoke a sense of safety and healing. 50% off code is FIRSTFIVE https://www.joanchanmd.com/learnstore/p/getting-curious-about-chronic-pain-workshop And to book a free half hour curiosity call with me - https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/curiositycure.coach/ Website - https://www.thecuriositycure.coach/ Book a free half hour curiosity call with me - https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/pain.coach.deb/ Website - https://www.thecuriositycure.com | |||
| 17 Nov 2023 | S2E1 Welcome or Rewelcome | 00:29:40 | |
Here's all the important links for this episode: Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/curiositycure.coach/ Book a Free Curiosity Call - https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Article referenced in podcast - https://thelavinagency.com/we-live-in-the-past-david-eagleman-on-our-perception-of-time-video/ Book a free half hour curiosity call with me - https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/pain.coach.deb/ Website - https://www.thecuriositycure.com | |||
| 06 Dec 2021 | Move With Deb - Episode 39, Sensitive vs Sensitized | 00:23:51 | |
Today I'm sharing with you some of my thoughts on central sensitization syndrome and the distinction between being sensitive and sensitized and the process of desensitization for pain and unpleasant sensations for healing. Central Sensitization Syndrome https://www.lin.health/insights/what-is-central-sensitization-syndrome Pain is a normal feature of human life - Book a free half hour curiosity call with me - https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/pain.coach.deb/ Website - https://www.thecuriositycure.com | |||
| 27 Nov 2021 | Move With Deb - Episode 38, The Stress Response | 00:30:36 | |
This week I share with you two experiences of mine around a stress response called a Dorsal Freeze. It's been my belief and experience that when we understand our nervous system and the relationship to our physiology, healing can occur. We have one mind, one body and one nervous system -- we are one being that moves through the world - assessing sensory experiences for our own survival. When we take the path towards embodied understanding our whole body responds and we can create the lives we want to live (even while there's systems in the world we want to change). Article on Dorsal Freeze - Book a free half hour curiosity call with me - https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/pain.coach.deb/ Website - https://www.thecuriositycure.com | |||
| 17 Nov 2021 | Move With Deb - Episode 37, Mindbody Time Traveling | 00:23:17 | |
Episode 37 of Move With Deb, the Podcast is all about my inadvertent discovery of my own cognitive-somatic neuro-rewiring. Or as I sometimes lovingly think about it as training my dog of a mindbody. Or even simpler, I am untriggering myself. My website is www.debmalkin.com
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| 13 Nov 2021 | Move With Deb - Episode 36, Somatic Smile | 00:05:07 | |
Ok y'all. I know you love to listen to me talk about my mindbody practice but like I could just be doing it and keeping it to myself. This podcast is for you to begin to make connections and learn to practice and apply these skills in your life.
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| 20 Oct 2021 | Move With Deb - Episode 35, Somatics & Systems of Harm | 00:17:27 | |
Welcome to Episode 35. I wanted to continue the conversation I started last week about Fear language in Trauma healing. But also what if there is danger? What if the systems we need to engage in for our lives to be operating with ease are rife with racism, sexism, fat phobia, trans phobia and so on? How can we use these tools and other ones in a skillful way for our highest benefit? My website is www.debmalkin.com
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| 15 Oct 2021 | Move With Deb - Episode 34, Trauma Talk | 00:13:53 | |
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| 03 Oct 2021 | Move With Deb - Episode 33, Dopamine + Disco Balls | 00:17:52 | |
Please feel free to reach out to me via instagram @movewithdeb or book a curiosity call at https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb My website is www.debmalkin.com Dr. Huberman's dopamine lecture - https://hubermanlab.com/controlling-your-dopamine-for-motivation-focus-and-satisfaction/ Article on labeling emotions -
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| 28 Sep 2021 | Move With Deb - Episode 32, Somatic Tracking + Somatic Smile | 00:17:29 | |
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| 18 Sep 2021 | Move With Deb - Episode 31, 4 Quick Tips on Fear Brain | 00:14:48 | |
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| 11 Sep 2021 | Move With Deb - Episode 30, Your Pain Is Real | 00:16:37 | |
This episode has a funny blooper in it. Can you find it? https://how-emotions-are-made.com/notes/Glossary
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| 03 Sep 2021 | Move With Deb - Episode 29, Stress Is A Pain In The Neck | 00:29:39 | |
Hello to my lovely super somaticizers of stress. So this episode I talk about my getting a rule out for throat cancer, because I've been dealing with this annoying, scary neck pain for over a year. It comes and goes. It's definitely linked to stress. And there was always a fear in the back of my mind that it was something more. Because I had gotten rid of all my other mindbody pain through these techniques but this one has hung around. Please feel free to reach out to me via instagram @movewithdeb or book a curiosity call at https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb
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| 24 Aug 2021 | Move With Deb - Episode 28, Tell Yourself The Truth | 00:22:13 | |
Dr. Sarno taught that unprocessed emotions, particularly anger and rage were responsible for chronic pain, back pain. Now with Trauma informed care and Polyvagal Theory the conversation has shifted to safety and fear. Underlying it all is this concept of Emotional Awareness. Here's the link to the emotion wheel article I mention. https://flowingdata.com/2020/03/20/wheel-of-emotional-words/ Please feel free to reach out to me via instagram @movewithdeb or book a curiosity call at https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb
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| 18 Aug 2021 | Move With Deb - Episode 27, Procrastination & Overwhelm | 00:13:38 | |
This podcast is very very late, because my perfectionist brain hijacked my body. The best news was although it was still happening, I knew WHAT was happening and so I had no feear. It was an invitation, as always, to feel. Verywell Mind breathing exercises -Ihttps://www.verywellmind.com/abdominal-breathing-2584115 Please feel free to reach out to me via instagram @movewithdeb or book a curiosity call at https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb
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| 09 Aug 2021 | Move With Deb - Episode 26, Star Trek Viewscreen | 00:16:54 | |
I'm back at the gym lifting weights and discussing how talking to our brains are like or unlike the Star Trek spaceship viewscreens. I discuss Frequency illusion, also known as the Baader–Meinhof phenomenon, which is a cognitive bias in which, after noticing something for the first time, there is a tendency to notice it more often, leading someone to believe that it has a high frequency (a form of selection bias). This is why it's really helpful to learn how to talk to your brain and fill up your viewscreen. Book a free half hour curiosity call with me - https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/pain.coach.deb/ Website - https://www.thecuriositycure.com | |||
| 01 Aug 2021 | Move With Deb - Episode 25, Perfectionism and Pain | 00:18:13 | |
This week's episode I explore the sensations in my body when I feel the perfectionist urge arise. I'm getting really good at decoding my body talk. I used to think I needed to do everything perfectly. I was raised by a perfectionist, who not so fun for me really did excel at so many things. Me, much less so. But I absorbed so many of those messages. My all or nothing brain is slowly and deliberately rebuilding my faith, love and compassion for my completely perfectly imperfect self and finding lots of healing along the way. Please feel free to reach out to me via instagram @movewithdeb or book a curiosity call at https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb
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| 24 Jul 2021 | Move With Deb - Episode 24, From Comparison to Curiosity | 00:12:22 | |
I've been traveling and seeing some old friends and I've been having some very interesting somatic experiences being present in my body, leaning into connection and feeling the absence of an old friend, comparison. :) I chat about the role of feelings, self judgement and how emotional allowance and self friendship is the key to healing.
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| 17 Jul 2021 | Move With Deb - Episode 23, Hot Flair City | 00:16:09 | |
My body is in a pain flair and wow is it not fun. But it sure is full of insights and learning. I am on the mend and excited to share my ongoing insights with you. The one thing I'm not, is afraid that that is a giant blessing. Please feel free to reach out to me via instagram @movewithdeb or book a curiosity call at https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Book a free half hour curiosity call with me - https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/pain.coach.deb/ Website - https://www.thecuriositycure.com | |||
| 10 Jul 2021 | Move With Deb - Episode 22, My Meta Moment | 00:25:04 | |
This week I am chatting about a spin I lovingly pulled myself out of and how it relates my client's fear/anxiety brain this week. We chatted about the fact that some thoughts are like cartoon snowballs. You know that they're like one of those if it's leading you to completely ignore all the true facts
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| 02 Jul 2021 | Move With Deb - Episode 21, Belief Plan | 00:21:54 | |
In this episode I touch in briefly about why the brain as a predictive organ will continue to create body pain and muscle inhibition. I walk you through my experiences in doing a stair walking practice and the ways I am leading my mindbody through various internal conversation and the outcomes I'm experiencing. I talk about being out of breath and building strength and surety.
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| 26 Jun 2021 | Move With Deb - Episode 20, Urgency | 00:18:40 | |
This week I am chatting about Urgency and Urges and the felt sense of those emotions and experiences in the body. The work I do on helping you and me, develop a new relationship with the sensations in our bodies, is to create safety in being able to observe the stories we are telling ourselves about a feeling, thought, circumstance.... And when I say story, I don't mean like a fairy tale. So maybe story isn't a useful word but it's the one I've got right now. Please listen to my client drop out quickly from the 11 years of anxiety that she's been carrying around with her about a life circumstance that she's in. Enjoy! Book a free half hour curiosity call with me - https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/pain.coach.deb/ Website - https://www.thecuriositycure.com | |||
| 22 Jun 2021 | Move With Deb - Episode 19, Hard Times Happen | 00:14:01 | |
I've been on the struggle bus my dears and my mindbody symptoms have been flaring and freaking me out. It took me a few days to tango with my fear brain and here's my story about it all. I hope that this helps. Please feel free to reach out to me via instagram @movewithdeb or book a curiosity call at https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Book a free half hour curiosity call with me - https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/pain.coach.deb/ Website - https://www.thecuriositycure.com | |||
| 11 Jun 2021 | Move With Deb - Episode 18, The Hard Sell | 00:15:11 | |
So in coaching we say that we don't know what's best for our clients. But I realized that I actually feel like I've been lying to you. Because I do think I know what's best. I think it would be best for you to learn the skill of developing curious awareness of your thoughts. That's my confession. It's my hard sell. I think that it's the key to unlocking our conditioned survival responses of pain, emotional overwhelm, trauma nervous system reactivity and help you create a nervous system friendly life that will allow you to move away from avoidance and towards the life you want to live.
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| 05 Jun 2021 | Move With Deb - Episode 17, My Tattoo is 50/50 | 00:25:48 | |
Today's podcast I discuss my process of falling back into old reassurance rumination compulsions while experiencing unexpected pain after getting a tattoo cover-up and I share the concept of 50/50.
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| 29 May 2021 | Move With Deb - Episode 16, What Am I Making This Mean? | 00:22:47 | |
Today's Podcast is all about learning to allow any feeling or sensation by cultivating your curiosity through asking the question, "What Am I Making This Mean?" You're even invited to a Being Human Party, along with all our feelings and see what happens when we try to keep Fear out. Book a free half hour curiosity call with me - https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/pain.coach.deb/ Website - https://www.thecuriositycure.com | |||
| 23 May 2021 | Move With Deb - Episode 15, Q & A | 00:32:18 | |
I answer a few questions that have come up about Neuroplastic pain. So happy to answer questions! Book a free half hour curiosity call with me - https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/pain.coach.deb/ Website - https://www.thecuriositycure.com | |||
| 14 May 2021 | Move With Deb - Episode 14, Bodymind Wondertime | 00:36:33 | |
You ever have that friend/colleague you love to talk shop with? She's a pelvic floor movement coach/teacher who in her words "I help you restore your core, without the shame, oppression, and misogyny that turns women's bodies into a problem." In this video we discuss her own insights as a movement teacher as well as a person with a body that has reoccurring pain. We discuss the impacts of language on the nervous system and why the format of the program was perfect for her as a mom of two 10 year olds with no childcare while running a full-time business. I love that she's able to take the work that we created back to her clients and help them quickly shift into curiosity and neural pathway repatterning. Curious how this work can benefit you? Book a free half hour curiosity call with me - https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/pain.coach.deb/ Website - https://www.thecuriositycure.com | |||
| 07 May 2021 | Move With Deb - Episode 13, The Case of the Vanishing Migraine | 00:32:53 | |
Lauren & I talk about her successes in my Chronic Pain Recovery Program. One of the things I loved about working with Lauren was meeting her where she was with all her skepticism, doubt, confusion, disbelief that her pain could ever change. She had lived for 20 years with weekly migraines and was told by Doctors that she should feel lucky that the meds for for her. How could a program that's only a few weeks change that? Not to mention having a very stressful job during a pandemic. There's no reason to wait until life gets less stressful to change your relationship to pain. In this podcast you hear from her, describe not only her migraines being gone in 3 weeks but how this work has changed her relationship with her family and herself. She showed up to this work with willingness and curiosity. Take a listen. If you're curious and willing and ready to get started, email me at paincoachdeb@gmail.com as I have a few spots available right now. #BeYourOwnCompellingReason #FearBrainAndChronicPain #RewritingNeuralPathways #DrSarno #OurNervousSystemIsAlwaysListening #TMSCoach #QueerLifeCoach #FatLifeCoach #MindBodySyndrome #TheBrainIsMagic #SomaticPainRetaining
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| 01 May 2021 | Move With Deb - Episode 12, Ash and Deb Talk Pain Transformation | 00:21:45 | |
Ash and Deb chat about faer participation in the original 4 week Fear Brain & Chronic Pain Program. (now 8 weeks) Head on over to YouTube if you want to watch our cute faces on video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWTJAEQXG8I If you're curious and willing and ready to get started, DM me or email me at paincoachdeb@gmail.com as I have a few spots available right now. Book a free half hour curiosity call with me - https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/pain.coach.deb/ Website - https://www.thecuriositycure.com | |||
| 23 Apr 2021 | Move With Deb - Episode 11, Conversation With Eva about Pain | 00:20:06 | |
Hi everyone, it's episode #11 and I'm working with a new recording program that makes a transcript. Yay for new technology!!! Always learning something new around here. You can also work with me! I teach you all the magic that self-friendship and curiosity offers and why attention is your secret untapped superpower. Coming soon. But if you read these notes you're getting the first heads up before anyone. :) https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Book a free half hour curiosity call with me - https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/pain.coach.deb/ Website - https://www.thecuriositycure.com | |||
| 16 Apr 2021 | Move With Deb - Episode 10, Move With Ease - Practice for Transitions | 00:19:53 | |
Here's a practice for you if you feel pain when getting up in the morning or when you are getting up from a chair or a couch after sitting for a long time. There are 3 parts to this:
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| 10 Apr 2021 | Move With Deb - Episode 9, Fear Brain + Podcasting | 00:21:02 | |
(first off, I totally apologize for all the extra noise in the beginning of the podcast, apparently I was shuffling things around and wasn't away how freaking loud that was going to be. I know now, and will adjust for next time) Maybe even reading that word your body gave you a reaction.... In this podcast I discuss the embodiment of fear & avoidance and how to the messy path forward changes your embodied experience which changes your brain and your pain!
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| 04 Apr 2021 | Move With Deb - Episode 8, Pressure Testing Neural Circuit Pain | 00:31:30 | |
Using a fun and interesting experiment we can play with the volume and intensity of physical sensations thereby revealing their neural plastic nature. Book a free half hour curiosity call with me - https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/pain.coach.deb/ Website - https://www.thecuriositycure.com | |||
| 26 Mar 2021 | Move With Deb - Episode 7, Vaccine as Mini Mindbody Lab | 00:22:57 | |
Listen up! In this episode I share why this collective experiment with managing the symptoms of the vaccine are the same exact tools I teach around changing the experience of pain.
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| 20 Mar 2021 | Move With Deb - Episode 6, Cognitive Fusion and Defusion | 00:33:43 | |
This week I share some concepts that I blend into my pain recovery program which I call cognitive-somatic mapping. I discussed the experience of The Felt Sense in last week's episode. Hey! That's the same concept I work with in regards to using "the model" a life coaching tool I learned from Kara Lowentheil from Unf*ck Your Brain and the main life coaching methods from The Life Coach School. BTW, I'm starting my certification there next month! Cannot wait! Totally terrified! Fuck yeah feelings!
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| 14 Mar 2021 | Move With Deb - Episode 5, The Despair of Disbelief | 00:16:13 | |
In this episode I discuss the concept of The Felt Sense.
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| 07 Mar 2021 | Move With Deb - Episode 4, Strong Emotions | 00:20:32 | |
Content announcement, I mention my friend's death from Covid. I discuss the difference between emotional allowance & expression. Book a free half hour curiosity call with me - https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/pain.coach.deb/ Website - https://www.thecuriositycure.com | |||
| 27 Feb 2021 | Move With Deb - Episode 3, Da Brain | 00:30:04 | |
The brain isn't for thinking!
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| 19 Feb 2021 | Move With Deb - Episode 2, The Headache | 00:11:46 | |
This episode was inspired by the headache I had after creating and posting episode one. Book a free half hour curiosity call with me - https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/pain.coach.deb/ Website - https://www.thecuriositycure.com | |||
| 12 Feb 2021 | Move With Deb - Episode 1, Pod Launch | 00:16:41 | |
Hi! I'm Deb Malkin. In this introduction episode I share a little bit about my background as a bodyworker, former plus size fashionista, fat activist and new my work as a pain recovery coach.
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| 28 Dec 2021 | Move With Deb - Episode 40, I Notice - A Short Practice | 00:08:00 | |
Heya fam! Please feel free to reach out to me via instagram @movewithdeb or book a curiosity call at https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Book a free half hour curiosity call with me - https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/pain.coach.deb/ Website - https://www.thecuriositycure.com | |||
| 31 Dec 2021 | Move With Deb - Episode 41, Embodied AHA, Tacit Knowledge and You in 2022 | 00:17:48 | |
Episode 41, I discuss how I've integrated new mindbody experiences into my life at different times and what that Embodied AHA looks and feels like. Please feel free to reach out to me via instagram @movewithdeb or book a curiosity call at https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Book a free half hour curiosity call with me - https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/pain.coach.deb/ Website - https://www.thecuriositycure.com | |||
| 11 Jan 2022 | Move With Deb - Episode 42, How To Use Recovery Stories | 00:16:53 | |
In this episode I share with you 10 steps that I use when I listen to other people's TMS/MindBody Healing Stories. It's so easy to get discouraged, frustrated or confused in this process. That's legit 100% normal and I want to encourage you to USE the insights from that experience to guide your progress. Book a free half hour curiosity call with me - https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/pain.coach.deb/ Website - https://www.thecuriositycure.com | |||
| 26 Jan 2022 | Move With Deb - Episode 43, FEAR is the #1 Symptom to Explore | 00:23:16 | |
Dr. Howard Schubiner, author of Unlearn Your Pain (I said it wrong in the pod, oooops sorry!) and leading mindbody physician dropped a nugget in my colleague's head which then got whispered into my ear and dropped into my auditory cortex to be processed..... I was like ooooooooh yes, FEAR is the main thing that we are helping with. Episode 43, I share with you some of my thoughts about that.
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| 31 Jan 2022 | Move With Deb - Episode 44, A Story Of Fear + Anger | 00:18:37 | |
This episode is a bit of a journey through my experience of getting an email that triggered some strong emotions for me. One of the most powerful ways for me to learn is through Narrative. In episode 41, I speak about powerful ways we learn embodied concepts. Just as we can learn pain, fear and overwhelm. We can unlearn them. I am looking forward to continuing to connect, share and grow with you in the coming year. Please feel free to reach out to me via instagram @movewithdeb My program will be reopening in the Spring of 2022. Looking forward to connecting with you then! Book a free half hour curiosity call with me - https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/pain.coach.deb/ Website - https://www.thecuriositycure.com | |||
| 09 Feb 2022 | Move With Deb - Episode 45, How To Process An Emotion | 00:13:35 | |
This episode is a guided journey through processing an emotion. I recommend listening to it first before trying it, to acclimate your brain to the work that will be happening. While you are listening, pay attention to any judging or fear thoughts. Any thoughts that sound like, this won't work for me. I can't do this. I am bad at visualizing... and that's ok. There's no wrong way to do this. There's no wrong answer. Are you willing to try? Can you become curious? What does approaching an activity with curiosity feel like? What if this is fun? What might that experience feel like? I am looking forward to continuing to connect, share and grow with you in the coming year. Book a free half hour curiosity call with me - https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/pain.coach.deb/ Website - https://www.thecuriositycure.com | |||
| 22 Feb 2022 | Move With Deb - Episode 46, Curiosity is the CURE-ALL ;) | 00:38:06 | |
Hello! I'm sharing some thoughts about not only my favorite concept but one that has been THE most powerful tools in the mindbody arsenal for healing. CURIOSITY! Here's the links I mentioned in the podcast. I am looking forward to continuing to connect, share and grow with you in the coming year. Book a free half hour curiosity call with me - https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/pain.coach.deb/ Website - https://www.thecuriositycure.com | |||
| 15 Mar 2022 | Move With Deb - Episode 47, Making Room for Uncomfortable Emotions | 00:14:01 | |
We are in our 2 year anniversary of Covid shut downs and we are experiencing a war. Nothing is "back to normal", and there's a lot of nuance to be said about what that even means. But what I'm noticing is I am being asked to make room for uncomfortable emotions in my life while I'm also moving forward. This episode is little snippets from my practice and from the work I'm doing with my clients around sleep and how to create peace that will lead to sleep. Book a free half hour curiosity call with me - https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/pain.coach.deb/ Website - https://www.thecuriositycure.com | |||
| 10 Apr 2022 | Move With Deb, Episode 48, Hello Again, Working With Demand Avoidance | 00:29:18 | |
Hello again! I am back after an unplanned break where my nervous system decided to show me an opportunity for some healing by giving me a big old NOPE in regards to taking action in my work life. I discuss why and share some of my mindbody experiences with demand avoidance, how I'm creating self friendship through my coaching practice and the practice of taking action through discomfort on purpose to rewire my nervous system reactivity. https://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/barbrastreisand/beforetheparadepassesby.html https://www.pdasociety.org.uk/what-is-pda-menu/what-is-demand-avoidance/ https://www.additudemag.com/pathological-demand-avoidance-autism-adhd/
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| 13 May 2022 | Move With Deb, Episode 49, How To Decide That You're OK | 00:36:00 | |
This episode I share with you my process of decreasing my DOMS post workout through mindbody work and noticing where I'm feeling afraid of increasing my physical activity and how I took myself through a process of Deciding that I'm ok.
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| 03 Jun 2022 | Move With Deb, Episode 50, Fridge Feelings + Vacuum Vibes | 00:24:09 | |
In this podcast I discuss how giving myself permission to enjoy a task created a powerful corrective experience about feeling joy and positive feelings. I talk about how that led to being able to finally finish a to do list I've been procrastinating on as well as feeling free to hop on a bike for the first time in a decade. Learning how to create feelings on purpose for your own wellbeing. Book a free half hour curiosity call with me - https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/pain.coach.deb/ Website - https://www.thecuriositycure.com | |||
| 27 Jun 2022 | Somatic Tracking Basic Audio - Bonus | 00:02:16 | |
Here's a super short, super basic quickie somatic tracking overview. Book a free half hour curiosity call with me - https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/pain.coach.deb/ Website - https://www.thecuriositycure.com | |||
| 06 Aug 2022 | Move With Deb, Episode 51, Chronic Shame, Chronic Pain | 00:29:39 | |
Hello again, I've been gone, kind of hiding a bit because I've been dealing with some pain and that's been causing me to feel some fear and shame and creating difficulty in wanting to show up in this podcasting space. Here's a little story, as I like to tell about my endlessly fascinating experience in a human body. There's a second part that will follow up as I share the report of my x-ray and a conversation with my colleague, Charlie Merrill, PT. Book a free half hour curiosity call with me - https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/pain.coach.deb/ Website - https://www.thecuriositycure.com | |||
| 26 Sep 2022 | Move With Deb, Episode 52, State Change Physiology + Shame | 00:21:32 | |
In this podcast I talk about some of the physiological ways our body processes stress, yawning, crying, spontaneous inhalation. (I don't get sciencey) You can find more information about this from the book Burnout: The Secret to Unlocking the Stress Cycle, coauthors (and twin sisters) Emily and Amelia Nagoski. I'm also currently studying with Dr. Amy Apigian in her 21 Day Journey to Calm Aliveness in which she shares Somatic Experiencing exercises. This episode is about how to use this reframe as a way to shift out of shame into curiosity. I share some of my hiking experiences in Iceland, especially when I was walking on a Glacier! Can you get into that curiosity approach? If you want to know more about mindbody approaches to decreasing symptoms associated with stress illnesses, TMS or neuroplastic pain, please book a curiosity call with me! https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Book a free half hour curiosity call with me - https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/pain.coach.deb/ Website - https://www.thecuriositycure.com | |||
| 01 Nov 2022 | Move With Deb, HypNovember 2022 | 00:17:31 | |
I've just graduated from Melissa Tiers' Integrative Hypnosis Training and I'm dedicating the month of November to playing and practicing skills and YOU'RE INVITED.
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| 28 Nov 2022 | Move With Deb, Episode 53, Embracing the Weird with Change | 00:25:29 | |
This episode I share a story with you about a friend and I changing her morning panic in a New York City diner and how we can embrace the process of change as something we are capable of doing because of how our brain works. Book a free half hour curiosity call with me - https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/pain.coach.deb/ Website - https://www.thecuriositycure.com | |||
| 05 Dec 2022 | Move With Deb, Episode 54, MindBody Reflection From A Cancelled Flight | 00:23:36 | |
This episode I am riffing more on the "change is weird" theme I started last week. This week I had an experience with a flight being cancelled and I noticed how unusually calm I was. I wasn't trying to be calm, I just was. And that embodied change was created through the mindbody practices I have been using and teaching, especially my hybrid hypnocoaching work. My old habituated responses got unwired enough so that they couldn't get picked up and associated into in the ways they had previously and that's just so fascinating and amazing to experience. Change is possible. I want you to have more of what you want to be experiencing in life. Please listen and see how this might relate to you and your current mindbody experience. If you are curious and want to know more about how to work with me please book a free consult - https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Book a free half hour curiosity call with me - https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/pain.coach.deb/ Website - https://www.thecuriositycure.com | |||
| 18 Dec 2022 | Move With Deb, Episode 55, My Tips On Working With Pain Behaviors | 00:26:50 | |
Examining our pain behaviors is an unavoidable important step for pain recovery, mind body healing and change work. Listen in and then apply this to yourself. The abstract from a chapter on Pain Behaviors with citations. https://www.instituteforchronicpain.org/blog/item/210-reducing-pain-behaviors-coping-with-pain-series - this one doesn't address how to update the brain's prediction of pain but it doesn't address how to explore pain behaviors. Website - www.movewithdeb.com If you are curious and want to know more about how to work with me please book a free consult - https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Book a free half hour curiosity call with me - https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/pain.coach.deb/ Website - https://www.thecuriositycure.com | |||
| 23 Dec 2022 | Holiday Trigger SOS Hypnocoaching Sessions | 00:06:51 | |
I've opened some holiday hypnosis sessions for you! Let's help make your holiday more enjoyable and less stressful. https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb/holiday-hypnocoaching-sos?back=1&month=2022-12 https://www.instagram.com/p/CmcYdBsvVcv/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link Book a free half hour curiosity call with me - https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/pain.coach.deb/ Website - https://www.thecuriositycure.com | |||
| 23 Dec 2022 | Move With Deb, Episode 56, Holiday Stress + Feeling Feelings on Purpose | 00:18:58 | |
Happy Holidays dear ones! Book a free half hour curiosity call with me - https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/pain.coach.deb/ Website - https://www.thecuriositycure.com | |||
| 30 Dec 2022 | Move With Deb, Episode 57, Paula + Pelvic Floor Pain | 00:33:45 | |
In this podcast, you get to listen in on my conversation with Paula about what it was like to work on pain recovery after getting cleared from her Doctor and having spent a long time in PT. Book a free half hour curiosity call with me - https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/pain.coach.deb/ Website - https://www.thecuriositycure.com | |||
| 03 Feb 2023 | Move With Deb, Episode 58, Two Different Days At The Gym | 00:14:16 | |
In this episode, I share 3 short clips, 2 post gym videos I made one week to the next that I meant to but never posted on IG- https://www.instagram.com/movewithdeb/ and a short fun clip with my trainer Melissa - https://www.instagram.com/lamaliciabkln/ It's sometimes hard to be Jewish, Neurodivergent and record interviews as I have a (get excited to share and also cultural norms of talking over/with others). But you can hear what she's saying and more important what she's adding into the conversation about how to listen without storytelling. I feel so lucky to have had this experience of working with her as my trainer and I'm really lucky to have myself, because I know how to listen to what I need and take my needs seriously and find amazing collaborators! If that's a skill you want to develop, especially if you live in a marginalized body or mind, I have lived this my whole life, hit me up, let's work together! https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Here's the link to the Ellen Langer conversation with Curable and find out about her research. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-mother-of-mindfulness-gives-her-take-on-chronic/id1265323809?i=1000583193613 Book a free half hour curiosity call with me - https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/pain.coach.deb/ Website - https://www.thecuriositycure.com | |||
| 09 Feb 2023 | Move With Deb, Episode 59, The Human Envelope | 00:38:29 | |
This is my riff off of new research about Misophonia and how it's not about sounds but it's about the perceived violation of our bodily autonomy in some people, our bodies are mirroring the motor patterns.
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| 17 Feb 2023 | Move With Deb, Episode 60, What Is The Most Loving Thing You Can Believe... | 00:26:35 | |
This episode I share with you a triad of mindbody experiences that are inspired by the question - What is the most loving thing you can think about .....? Melissa Tiers - https://www.melissatiers.com/ A Conversation with Dr. Ashar about the science of primary pain that I co-hosted at Lin Health - https://youtu.be/wotWuvrJW3I Dr. Ashar's twitter - https://twitter.com/YoniAshar If you are interested in working with me, I currently offer 12 weeks of mindbody/life coaching or if you want a quick shot of hypnosis, we can do that as well. https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb
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| 23 Feb 2023 | Move With Deb, Episode 61, Chronification | 00:12:17 | |
This is a peek inside my mind after I've read an article that really lights me up or brings me useful insights to help me help you (and myself). I share my somatic practices that help explore the beliefs around chronification supported by the Scandinavian Journal Of Pain. https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb- click here to book a curiosity call with me! Book a free half hour curiosity call with me - https://calendly.com/paincoachdeb Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/pain.coach.deb/ Website - https://www.thecuriositycure.com | |||
| 25 Mar 2023 | Move With Deb, Episode 62, The Heart of Graded Exposure | 00:26:28 | |
Oh the irony, I realized that in describing this idea WE didn't practice it. But I think that's not the easiest thing to do on a podcast because it needs empty air time. Soooooooooooo this is to put the ideas in your head what you can practice in the non-podcast time.
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