The Creative Kind (Julie Battisti)

Welcome to The Creative Kind ! I’m Julie Battisti and each episode I will be interviewing people to help answer one listener question. The idea will be to get an in-depth answer to each question with the help of different artists or art professionals.

The Creative Kind is a place where I want to delve into the grey areas of the big and small questions .

If you’ve got a question you’d like answered, please follow the link to my substack and ask it there or send me an email at thecreativekindpodcast@gmail.com or through my instagram @thecreativekindpodcast !

Looking forward to releasing some episodes soon! 

Music from #Uppbeat (free for Creators!):

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Hello! In this first episode, Wilamina Russo and I discuss mentoring in the art world. We delve into topics like when is the best time to get a mentor, and how to find the best mentor to suit your needs and goals. We talk about the importance of professional development and creating space for growth and reflection, whether that's through a mentor relationship, a skills based training module or just chatting with your peers. 

If you’ve got any follow up questions for Wilamina or Myself, or a future question for the pod to explore please send them through to me at thecreativekindpodcast@gmail.com

You can find Willy here

Information on her new course here 

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In this episode we’re looking at whether or not you should do an art tutorial as part of your art practice. Carla Grace is an artist who specialises in hyperrealistic wildlife paintings and offers tutorials and membership programs. Carla discusses the sort of artists who get the most out of her classes and has some great suggestions of what you might want to look for to help you find the right class to suit your specific needs. Carla also delves into how she navigates the art world as an independent artist and how having an understanding of her own brand and goals has helped her to create a unique and holistic career in a landscape inundated with information and trends.

Links to the two (of the many) tutorials mentioned in depth that she offers for free are here:

Lighting reel instagram plus resources 

Printmaking flow chart is within this clip on making & packaging prints

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In this episode Hannah and I discuss what sort of studio spaces have worked or not worked for her (she’s had 17 or more over the years so I figured she’d be the gal to ask). We discuss the importance of finding a studio space to match the stage of life you’re at, and also making any space work so that you can create when it works for you. We also chat about the importance of optimising studio spaces for creativity and mental health, and the value of connecting with other artists in a community.

Mentioned in this Ep:

Rich Roll

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In this episode Jenni Stringleman and I discuss studio spaces again, but with more of an emphasis on the benefits of a studio that is outside of your home.  Jenni reflects on the transition from home-based workspaces to a dedicated external studio space and the different ways that this impacted her - from her daily approach to her work, to the mental benefits of having a 'room of ones own' . We also talk about the professional value of having a dedicated studio and the community connection that came with it.

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In this episode I’m interviewing Anna Price. Anna is an Australian Artist who runs her own print shop with over 180 print options. Anna provides valuable insights into the practicalities and considerations that have been involved in creating and managing her own successful print shop and art business. She emphasises the importance of quality, and strategic marketing in leveraging prints as a profitable extension of her artistic practice.

You can find Anna here and you can subscribe to her mailing list to get access to her latest originals and prints here!

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This episode I’m talking with Jen Sievers about prints. I thought Jen would be an absolute font of knowledge on this topic because she is a NZ based artist who has recently launched a course on prints, and she has also successfully been selling her own for years in Aus and NZ. We chat about some of the challenges and benefits as well as some of the practical aspects like scanning and choosing reliable printing partners. We discuss the (maybe outdated) notion that prints will devalue originals and Jen counters with some great points about how having prints can help an artist remain accessible to a wider audience while help to build demand and visibility. 

You can find Jen here and some information on her artist resources like her print course here!

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This episode I discuss the challenges and upsides of making art your full time career with Australian landscape Artist Johnny K. We delved into the realities of transitioning from a secure corporate job to becoming a full-time artist. Johnny shared his journey discussing aspects like goal setting and financial planning and the role they played in the move, as well as the importance of being able to talk things through with friends, peers and gallery advisors. I really appreciated Johnny talking about the struggles he faced early on in his career and the way he is able to see these as beneficial, contributing to his growth and the appreciation for his success. 

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In this episode I talk to Madeline Simson, a Melbourne-based artist specialising in acrylic still lifes featuring citrus fruits, table spreads, and Australian birds. Madeline shares her recent transition from a career in illustration and graphic design to becoming a full-time artist. We discussed the  the importance of having a supportive network of friends and family and Maddy talked about the steps she took to get to this point including creating bodies of work and organising her own art shows, which boosted her confidence and exposure. I love that Maddy has a plan to keep exploring and growing her work, and I can’t wait to see what the next few years bring for her!

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This episode I talk to Peter Aitken from Wentworth Galleries about pricing artworks. We delve into the complexities of pricing art, highlighting the need to balance market demands and the perceived value of the work. Peter explains the strategy of "proving the market" by gradually increasing prices and ensuring consistent sales. We also discuss some of the differences in pricing approaches between galleries and artists, the role that context, experience, and audience play in determining the price of artworks.

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This episode I’m talking to Australian artist Emily Raubenheimer about pricing. Emily shares insights into her pricing strategies, emphasizing the importance of trial and error, considering market factors, and adjusting prices based on time, materials, and additional costs like packing and shipping. She also highlights the significance of maintaining consistent pricing across different sales platforms and balancing quick-selling, lower-cost items with more expensive, time-intensive works.

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I wanted to finish off season 1 with something special, and when I put a q&a up on the podcast instagram, more then half of the questions were about style. I've asked all the guests from season one to come on and give their thoughts, and most of them have agreed which is fabulous. So I'm going to split this up into 2-3 episodes that I'll release over the next 2 weeks.

This week, I'm talking to Hannah Jensen Fox, Jen Sievers and Carla Grace about style, how they see it in their work, how it evolves and changes and much more!

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In this final episode of Season 1, I'm talking with Madeleine Simson, Johnny K, Emily Raubenheimer and Willy Russo about style.

I loved hearing the similarities, differences and threads that carried across all these interviews and in a way, these short segments at the end of this season capture what I wanted to do with this show as a whole, the show a diversity of opinion, because sometimes the lessons that you learn in your first 10 months creating art are as important and game changing as those that you learn 10 years in.

Thank you so much to all of the guests from this season, and thank you to all the listeners too!! I've loved making this and it means the world to me that you are all enjoying it too.

see you soon for season 2!

xJB

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Mentioned in this pod

Madeleine mentioned author David Sedaris

Johnny K mentioned William Robinson: The Transfigured Landscape

The ABC Interview Willy mentioned here : The Value of Art

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In this episode I talk to New Zealand artist Fleur Woods about her artistic voice. We discuss her journey and influences, and the all the experimentation it took to refine and continually progress it. We explored the ideas that reoccur in her work and life such as a deep connection to nature. We chat about how teaching and collaborating are integral to her practice, as they allow her to connect with others and continuously experiment and evolve. I love how Fleur embraces the idea that creativity is a force for well-being and encourages others to explore their genuine interests.

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Mentioned in this episode

• ‘The Untamed Thread’ by Fleur Woods 
• Fleur’s Art mentor : Rosie Coaches
• Creative Matters interview with Fleur 
• Ceramic artist Formantics
• Fleurwoodsart.com
• Fleurwoodsart facebook
• Fleurs Course Joyful embroidery

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This week Australian artist Chilu and I discuss artistic voice. We explore how Chilu shifted towards discovering her artistic voice by experimenting with different styles, and how she evolved and grew with her personal narrative, symbolising both joy and hardship. The conversation reveals how significant life events, like her son's hospitalisation, inspired her to create art with a purpose, aiming to donate proceeds to the NICU unit at the Sydney Children’s Hospital. 

You can find Chilu here

The donations page for The Heart Centre for children that Chilu supports through her work can be found here  

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Mentioned in this episode

• Sydney Children's Hospital Westmead
• Frocktober
• Josefia Lemon Fine Art
• Willy Russo
• Lisa Congdon
• Ovarian Cancer foundation
• Beach Boys Documentary

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In this week's episode, I’m thrilled to sit down with Fiona Verity, a UK born, but Australian-based artist and co-host of the Art Wank podcast. Fiona discusses her return to art school after a decade of being a practicing artist, seeking to fill gaps in her creative practice, art history and academic writing. We discuss how Fiona is finding value in the immersive and collaborative environment at the National Art School in Sydney, where she majors in printmaking. 

We talk about her appreciation of peers, reserach, criticism and the opportunity to engage deeply with her art. She describes how art school has provided her with the time and space to think, and develop her practice without the pressure of commercial success.

You can find Fiona here

You can find Fiona’s podcast Art Wank that she hosts with Julie Nicholson here

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Mentioned in this episode

• Interview with Willy Russo
• National Art School
• Debbie Mackinnon - Mentioned as a mentor for Fiona.
• Judith White - Mentioned as a mentor for Fiona at the Willoughby Arts Centre.
• Mary Cassatt - American painter and printmaker
• Katie Hessell - UK writer, author of The Story of Art Without Men

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In this episode I chat with New Zealand artist Viv Wotton about her journey and motivations for attending art school. We discuss the challenges and rewards of attending art school, the importance of receiving constructive feedback and developing critical thinking. Viv discusses how art school provided her with confidence and context in the art world, and we chat about some of the aspects that she still felt lacking in when she left. I really enjoyed chatting to Viv about the  role of social media and alternative avenues in understanding how to navigate an art career outside of traditional gallery representation.  We also chat about the connections made with peers, tutors, and industry professionals as well as the challenges of balancing family life with her studies. 

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Mentioned in this episode

• Redbird Gallery 
• Artbox Gallery -
• Art on Thames 

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In this episode I talk to Sophie Vander, founder and director of Curatorial + Co., a Sydney-based art gallery and consultancy. We discuss the importance of collaborative relationships between galleries and artists, the unique approach of Curatorial Co., and the processes involved in representing artists. Sophie shares insights on how she supports artists' careers, handles artist approaches, and values open communication and trust. We also chat about the challenges and rewards of managing artist relationships, setting expectations, and the behind-the-scenes work that goes into building an artist's career.

You can find Curatorial + Co here and the Curatorial + Co consultancy here

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Mentioned in this episode

• Interview of Sophie Vander with Willy Russo
• Interview of Sophie Vander with Art wank
• Hannah Quinlivan 
• Nunzio Miano 
• Leonie Barton 
• Flinders Lane Gallery 
• Amber Hearn 
• Nick Cave 
• Jack Shainman
• Courtney McClelland 
• Arts Matter

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In this episode of The Creative Kind I’m talking to Anna Silcock, one of the co-directors of Parnell Gallery in Auckland. Anna explores some of the things you might want to think about when approaching a gallery, and some things to consider when looking for the right fit. We also chat about the relationship and dynamics between artists and galleries, the importance of communication, expectations and guidance. We discuss the work you often can't see getting done by galleries to help support & build artists careers , such as marketing, administration, and relationship-building. 

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In this episode I chat to Sam Michelle. We discuss the theme of consistency in Sam's art practice and maintaining a passion-driven approach. Sam shares insights on juggling life and art and the importance of continual learning. The discussion also explores how her love for gardening intertwines with her art, offering both inspiration and a necessary balance to avoid burnout. We chat about the significance of staying true to one’s artistic voice while also allowing space for experimentation and growth. Sam also shares insights on business practices, the importance of maintaining a connection with collectors, and her philosophy on controlling what is within her power as an artist. Additionally, the episode explores the Sam’s practice of reflection, documenting successes, and maintaining a long-term perspective on her career.

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Mentioned in this episode

• Martin Brown Contemporary
• Super Creative Interview
• Skill Share learning platform
• The Daily Stoic podcast
• The Creative Act by Rick Rubin
• Jelly Plate Ideas with Phoebe Gander
• The Makers Yearbook by Nicola Taylor

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This week I’m talking to Claire Te Au, a New Zealand artist known for her intricate floral paintings with hidden animals. we discuss the importance of consistency in an artist's practice, overcoming self-doubt, and maintaining balance (or juggling) while managing familial responsibilities. Claire emphasises the value of a supportive network, both at home and professionally through her gallery, The Artist Room in Dunedin. We also touch upon the relevance of building an online presence and how meaningful thematic elements in artwork can engage audiences. Claire shares insights into her routine, time management, and the impact of consistent practice on her artistic growth and success. 

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In this episode I’m talking to Frank Gordon, an artist and community mental health nurse based in Dunedin, New Zealand. We chat about how Frank juggles his dual roles, including his passion for art and commitment to both his jobs. We chat about some of the problems that come up when you’re labelling yourself, or when you’re labeled by others, and the pressures of maintaining a balance between his professional life, personal life, and artistic passion. We talk about Frank's journey from seeing art as a hobby to becoming an established artist, the importance of stepping back from work to gain fresh perspectives, and the impacts, positive and negative, that his other job has on his art. We also explore the challenges of monetising your passion and the influence of stories in his creative process.

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Mentioned in this ep:

• Gallery Denovo

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In this episode of The Creative Kind, I talk with Amanda Billing about managing multiple art-related part-time jobs. Amanda, an artist, actress, and portrait photographer from Auckland, New Zealand, shares her journey from teaching to a 10-year acting stint on Shortland Street and her roles in various screen productions, to becoming a visual artist. We discuss the problematic 'part-time' label, the challenges of maintaining various jobs, and the inspiration behind her photography business, which started from a 100-day project. Amanda also discusses the importance of having a structured routine to balance acting, photography, and painting, and her upcoming solo exhibition at Browne School of Art. This conversation delves into the complexity of artistic identity, the need for self-discipline, and the fulfilment derived from pursuing creative passions.

You can find Amanda here, her photography business here her work with artful here and her merch collection here

Her Solo show 'Embodiment' opens on Tuesday 15th October at Browne School of Art 5:30pm and is on until the 2nd of November 2024

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Mentioned in this episode

• Elle Luna
• Browne School of Art
• Shortland Street (TV Show)
• Kid's Sister (TV Show)
• Under the Vines (TV Show)
• Artful (Online Gallery)
• Claire Robbie’s The School of Modern Meditation @Wearesomm

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Each season, my plan is to catch up with the guests that have been on around 1 topic. This season- the topic is Solo shows. It’s a wonderful chance to catch up with everyone and to get a range of views on one topic. The good moments, bad moments, things people have learnt, their advice and all sorts of other stories of preparing for, executing, and recovering from solo art shows. Guests Fleur Woods, Sam Michelle , Viv Wotton, Sophie Vander, and Amanda Billing share their personal experiences, providing insight into the challenges and rewards of presenting a cohesive body of work. We discuss many things including the vulnerability that comes after a show’s, the planning that goes into preparing a show, including the importance of creating a mood board and managing deadlines, the freedom that comes with having time to experiment and balance different artistic styles before committing to a show, practical advice on planning and curation, things to get people in the door like booze and social media, and ideas on processing and reflecting on your own work after the show. It was an absolute pleasure reconnecting with all of these creatives, I hope you enjoy it as much as I did! The remaining 5 guests will be on an episode that will drop later in the week

Thank you as always for your support this season! 

You can find this weeks guests here:

Fleur Woods, Sam Michelle , Viv Wotton, Sophie Vander,  Amanda Billing

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In part two of this season's finale I’m talking to the remaining 5 guests of the season, Frank Gordon, Chilu, Claire Te Au, Fiona Verity and Anna Silcock  about solo shows. It’s such a lovely opportunity to hear from each of the guests again and to get a range of opinions on the same topic. We talk about the roller coaster of emotions before and after the show, the challenges of preparing, burnout, communication, themes, pre sales, how to promote on social media and so much more. 

I loved chatting to all of these creatives again, I hope you enjoy it as much as I did! 

Season 3 drops this Monday! 

Thank you as always for your support this season! 

You can find this weeks guests here:

Frank Gordon, Chilu, Claire Te Au, Fiona Verity and Anna Silcock 

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In this episode Australian landscape painter Carly Le Cerf shares how she finds inspiration for her work from the landscapes she paints and people she surrounds herself with. She discusses how feelings of awe and wonder motivate her artistic process and the message she aims to convey through her paintings. Carly and I chat about the drive to capture and communicate the feelings inspired by the landscapes she immerses herself in, to those who view her work.Carly also discusses how the act of making art is what often leads to inspiration, rather than waiting for a moment of creative clarity.

• Carly Le Cerf’s Website
• Carly’s Instagram

People & places mentioned:

• Johnny K 
• Jules Beresford 
• Big C 
• Michael Reid Gallery
• Paper Pear Gallery
• Moray Gallery
• Patricia Seggebruch 
• Talking with painters episode with Jo Bertini 
• Carly Le Cerf on Interview with an Artist

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In this episode I Interview Jordan Barnes, a New Zealand artist, singer, songwriter, and actor, about his sources of inspiration. Jordan explains that his inspiration comes from within and is often fuelled by visuals and life experiences. He talks about finding inspiration in various forms—whether through observation of the world around him, personal relationships, emotional experiences, or social observations. We discuss the themes and messages in Jordans work and the importance he places on allowing room for ambiguity in his work, so that viewers can interpret his pieces in their own way. Jordan also discusses how he juggles multiple artistic disciplines, and how surrounding himself with a supportive community, including mentors and family, fuels his creative endeavours. 

Jordan Barnes website

Jordan Barnes Instagram

Other people /places mentioned

• John McLean: 
• Isaac Petersen:
• Luke Kerr 
• Puke Ariki Museum 

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In this episode of The Creative Kind I talk to Lisa Doust, an Australian journalist and art manager, about the importance of business skills for artists. We discuss Lisa's experience in managing the business side of her sister Melanie Vugich's art career, the creation of The Astute Artist course with Willy Russo, and essential business practices for artists such as being media-ready, having clear pricing, and maintaining a professional online presence. Lisa offers practical advice on writing artist statements, the significance of having a good accountant, and how networking and outsourcing can help artists grow their businesses. We also talk about the impact of social media and ensuring a coherent brand identity across various platforms. We finish the episode with a recording of Lisa’s social media audit for Julie, so you can hear what this sort of process entails. I’ll be putting a full run down of Lisa’s tips and recommendations in my newsletter this week so make sure you’re subscribed to The Creative Kind Substack where you can check that out! 

You can find Lisa at Alice Street Press on Instagram and at The Astute Artist website

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Mentioned in this episode:

• Melanie Vugich 
• Willy Russo 
• The Astute Artist
• Blue Thumb 
• Sarah Birtles
• Art Wank Interview with Lisa  
• Interview with an artist with Melanie Vugich
• Art Wank Interview with Melanie Vugich

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In this episode, we dive deep into the business side of creativity with Rosie Holt. Rosie is a business coach who delivers coaching, masterclasses, community and speaking events to business owners and creative entrepreneurs. We chat about how to make informed choices in your creative practice, avoid burnout, and approach long-term growth in a sustainable way. Rosie emphasises that success doesn't come from working at 100% every day, but from showing up consistently—whether you're putting in 10 minutes or a full day's work. We also explore the importance of planning for the future, setting achievable goals, and finding joy in small wins. 

Rosie’s Website

Rosie’s Instagram

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In this episode I talk to Anita De Soto about her experiences of getting her MFA and also teaching in the MFA program. Anita and I discuss how a master’s program can provoke critical thinking and creative practice. We chat about the value of a community within master’s programs, where collaboration and exchange of ideas foster a supportive network that can last well beyond graduation. Anita talks about the structured environment of a master’s program that can allow for experimentation with new materials and concepts, encouraging students to push the boundaries of their work and develop a strong artistic voice. The emphasis on hands-on making, alongside theoretical analysis, can help equip students with the tools to articulate their ideas and intentions and help clarify their artistic identity.

Anita De Soto Website

Anita De Soto Instagram

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In this episode, I sit down with Australian artist Susan Nethercote to chat about her decision to pursue a Master’s in Fine Art. We discuss some of the differences in further art education in Australia, the evolving relationship between her artistic practice and her art business, and the complicated juggle between creativity and commerce. We talk about the importance of reflection and reflexivity in the creative process, emphasising the importance of understanding your motivations. Susan talks about the value of self-knowledge in navigating this journey and the importance of being honest about personal and professional commitments.

Susan’s Website

Susan’s Instagram

Susan’s You Tube Channel

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What a way to end the year! In the last interview episode of the season I talk to Danielle Krysa the woman behind The Jealous Curator about imposter syndrome.

Danielle candidly discusses how imposter syndrome has shown up for her, some of the strategies she has used to overcome it and quieten down her inner critic.We chat about the importance of self-discovery and perseverance and being ok with following your own unique path. Danielle highlights the value of overcoming challenges to create work that truly resonates with others.

Throughout the conversation, Danielle also talks about the power of connection, whether it's through conversations with other artists or informal advice shared within the art world, there’s strength in realising you're not alone & how artists can support one another to overcome self-doubt. I hope you enjoyed this one as much as I did!

Mentioned in this episode:

Danielle Krysa (The Jealous Curator):

The Jealous Curator Newsletter ‘Art Delivery’

Danielle’s podcast: Art for your ear

Andy J Pizza

Piper Bangs

Alexis Mixter

Danielle’s Ted Talk 

Danielle’s Art for your Ear episode with Wayne White  

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To round out the season I'm talking to almost all of this seasons guests again, with Danielle Krysa, Jordan Barnes, Susan Nethercote, Lisa Doust, Anita De Soto & Rosie Holt coming back to share their thoughts on endings and beginnings. We talk about how these artists see the end of an artwork, the end of a body of work, the cyclical nature of themes and work that can carry over into many years, or a lifetime as well as how they generate and explore new ideas. I thought this would be a particularly great topic to explore close to the end of the year.

I also give you two small projects

1- Share the pod ( Merry Christmas to me)

2- Top 9- Will you join us in sharing 9 artworks of others that have made a difference to you or your work this year? If you do join in, find 9 artworks (from other artists) that you love and want to share and put them in a 3 x 3 grid, tag me or the pod @thecreativekindpodcast or share the post with me so that I can share it too and we can all see more art from different people and all get to explore some more art & artists for Christmas (Merry Christmas to us!). I'll pop and example in the newsletter this week.

hopefully one more Secret Santa episode to come out next week, maybe the week after! stay tuned :D

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In this episode we’re celebrating the end of the year with the first-ever Creative Kind Secret Santa! This episode is about the simple magic of exchange and talk within a creative community. Through a Secret Santa format, various guests from the past three seasons share questions and answers, covering topics such as the impact of large and small artworks, unique techniques like paint carving, the value of gallery relationships and email databases, the influence of music and other art forms on creative practices, and the significance of trusting your instincts and staying authentic.

Thank you so much to Claire Te Au, Emily Raubenheimer, Madeleine Simson, Hannah Jensen Fox, Jenni Stringleman, Lisa Doust, Willy Russo, Jordan Barnes, Peter Aitken, Frank Gordon, Chiu, Viv Wotton and Amanda Billing for your questions and your answers,

And thank you to everyone for your questions, for listening and for your support this year! 

Happy Festivus!

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Happy new year! Welcome back to The Creative Kind, Today’s episode is a little different — instead of interviewing someone else, I’m sharing an interview that I recently did for the wonderful Creative Matters podcast.

I’ll admit, it feels a bit strange to put myself in the spotlight here, but I think it’s a great opportunity to let you in on some of my personal journey, especially since I’m always asking my guests to do the same! A big thank you to Mandy Jakich interviewing me and allowing me to share it here with you all. I hope you enjoy listening as much as I enjoyed chatting with her.

You can find Creative Matters here on Insta

Here on apple podcast

Here on spotify

You can find a blog post to go along with this episode here:

You can find the Creative Kind instagram page here:

& you can find a link to the The Creative Kind Substack here:

Ask a question or suggest a topic here

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Today, I’m introducing a new style of episode that I’m calling Studio Sessions. These aren’t the usual interviews you’re used to hearing here. Instead, they’re more laid-back conversations with one or two other artists about art, creativity, life, and how these things combine and collide.

I’m not entirely sure how often these episodes will happen—it’s a bit of an experiment. They’re d a chance to dig into the raw, real side of the artistic process and chat to past and future guests from the podcast. I’m so excited to see where this new direction takes us!

Don’t worry—the interview episodes you know and love aren’t going anywhere. I’ve got a whole series planned, and I can’t wait to share what’s coming up this year. But every now and then, you’ll spot a Studio Session in your feed. These episodes will have a blue background and “Studio Session” in the title, so you’ll know when to expect something a little different.

For today’s Studio Session, I sat down with Amanda Billing—a photographer, actor, and artist—and Jenni Stringleman, a painter. Both are based in Auckland, New Zealand, and we had an honest and wide-ranging conversation about the ups and downs of the creative process. We talked about navigating those tricky in-between times, the moments of doubt, and the sparks of joy that keep us going.

It’s raw, it’s real, and maybe even a little unpredictable. I hope you enjoy it!

You can find Amanda here, her newsletter here and her earlier interview episode here:

You can find Jenni here and her newsletter here and her earlier interview episode here:

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And the podcast newsletter here

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In this episode I talk to Fleur Wickes, a New Zealand artist, writer, photographer, and master's student. Fleur discusses her evolution from a photographer to a multifaceted artist, sharing insights about her creative process, which focuses on emotional connections and human experiences. Fleur also talks about the significance of imperfection in her art, the transition away from photography, and the role of business in her creative journey. We discuss the importance experimenting has played within her practice, as well has things that have stayed constant such as her use of photographic paper and her love of words. This episode explores the many ways Fleur's work has evolved over the years, and how throughout those changes, she’s always sought to explore the emotional resonance of art.

You can find Fleur here:

Fleur Wickes Website

Fleur Wickes Newsletter

Fleur Wickes Instagram

Mentioned artists include Diane Arbus, Rose Wiley Joel Peter Witkin, Emily Hartley Scutter, Wolfgang Tillman, CJ Hendry, and Glenn Hayward.

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In this episode of The Creative Kind, I chat with Brisbane-based artist and teacher Andrew Sleeman about how he juggles his full-time job teaching and his art practice. Andrew shares his strategies for setting a non-negotiable schedule,  what happens when this schedule is inevitably interrupted, setting goals, and maintaining consistency in his creative work alongside having a busy work and family life. We discuss the role of mindset, it’s role in making art a personal priority and the many ways in which that can be difficult. I really enjoyed this chat with Andrew and hearing not just the challenges, but ways in which he is embracing the flexibility and learning to move within and around the distractions, I hope you do too!  

You can find Andrew here on instagram and his website here

Other episodes and people mentioned in this chat:

• Sam Michelle
• Chilu
• Willy Russo

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In this studio session of The Creative Kind, I catch up with previous guests Claire Te Au and Frank Gordon, both talented painters from Ōtepoti, Dunedin. We dive into a chat about finding some routine again after the holidays, current projects, the creative processes they follow, and the unique challenges and joys of balancing art with life. We discuss some thoughts around planning for upcoming shows, and how the art maths never seems to work around getting things done on time. We also explore gallery dynamics, the creation of murals, and the quirky mishaps that arise in artistic endeavours. 

Find my previous episode with Frank here:

Find my previous episode with Claire here

You can find the podcast here

And the podcast newsletter here

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Sorry for the audio quality in this one- it's a work in progress and this was definitely a done is better then perfect scenario!

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In this episode I’m joined by Dublin-based artist Mark Conlan, known for his expressive and whimsical work across various mediums, including digital art, illustration, and hand-painted pieces. We discuss the evolution of Mark's career, from his days as a graphic designer to becoming an illustraton artist and how his style and techniques have adapted over time. We talk about the importance of personal projects in driving commercial success, and the value of continuous exploration and confidence in artistic growth. Mark shares insights on balancing commercial work with personal expression, dealing with creative blocks, and the significance of rest and nature in maintaining creativity. 

You can find Mark here:

Mark Conlan’s Website

Mark Conlan’s Instagram

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In this episode I talk to Dr. Lou Cooper, psychologist, host of the Emotion Focused Podcast and head of training at the Australian Institute of Emotion Focused Therapy. We discuss the relationship between creativity and anxiety, exploring if artists really do experience more anxiety compared to others. Lou provides insights into recognising, managing, and normalising anxiety, balancing emotions in the creative process, differentiating between helpful and debilitating anxiety, and the role of community and social media in an artist's mental health. We also answer a few listener questions about anxiety spirals, using emotions as inspiration, and career uncertainties. Throughout the discussion Lou explains the importance of acknowledging anxiety and offers strategies for managing it, normalising it and possibly even using it when we think about or are in the process of creating art.  

Links to:

International Society for Emotion Focused Therapy

The Emotion Focused Podcast- Hosted by Dr Lou Cooper

• Listen on apple podcasts
• Listen on spotify
• The Emotion Focused Podcast on Instagram

We discuss topics related to anxiety and mental health in this episode, including how these experiences can affect artists. While we approach this conversation with care, some parts may be sensitive for certain listeners. If you find this topic distressing, please take breaks or skip this episode if needed. If you’re struggling with your mental health, we encourage you to seek support from a mental health professional or reach out to someone you trust. 

📞 Additional Mental Health Resources:

• New Zealand: Free call or text 1737 to talk to a trained counselor anytime.
• Australia: Contact Lifeline at 13 11 14 for 24/7 crisis support.
• International: Visit befrienders.org to find helplines in your country.

You can find the podcast here

And the podcast newsletter here

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In this episode of 'The Creative Kind,' I’m joined by Rachael Mayne, a psychologist and painter based in Aotearoa, New Zealand, to discuss the intersection of anxiety and art. Rachael explains that anxiety is a normal, protective mechanism but can become problematic when it impacts daily functioning. We explore how anxiety manifests for artists, and how tools like journaling, mindfulness, and therapy can help. We touch on issues of imposter syndrome, the impact of social media on self-esteem, and the challenge of staying inspired. We also discuss our personal experiences of navigating the "ugly phase" in paintings, recognizing it as a natural part of the process rather than a sign of failure. Racheal offers practical strategies for managing creative anxiety, including having multiple projects at different stages and recognizing when energy levels allow for experimentation. 

You can find Rachael here on instagram:

And her website here

Mentioned in this episode:

The links to the books/resources that I mentioned are:

- The Centre for Clinical Interventions - Resources for looking after yourself:

https://www.cci.health.wa.gov.au/Resources/Looking-After-Yourself

- The Happiness Trap - How to stop struggling and start living, By Russ Harris (book)

We discuss topics related to anxiety and mental health in this episode, including how these experiences can affect artists. While we approach this conversation with care, some parts may be sensitive for certain listeners. If you find this topic distressing, please take breaks or skip this episode if needed. If you’re struggling with your mental health, we encourage you to seek support from a mental health professional or reach out to someone you trust. 

📞 Additional Mental Health Resources:

• New Zealand: Free call or text 1737 to talk to a trained counselor anytime.
• Australia: Contact Lifeline at 13 11 14 for 24/7 crisis support.
• International: Visit befrienders.org to find helplines in your country.

You can find the podcast here

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In this episode I chat to Penelope Boyd, a self-taught painter from Canberra. Penny discusses how she came to develop her unique style and the self-reliance and determination it took to get there. She talks about early exposure to blogs and online resources and a long history of trial and error and how this helped her to refine and discover what works for her. Penny talks about some of the challenges she faced, including physical injuries and she also reflects on the freedom of being self-taught, allowing her art to evolve without the influence of formal art education. We discuss some of the challenges artists face in developing their professional skills beyond making art, including writing artist statements, managing finances, and navigating the business side of the industry. This chat with Penny really highlights the value of long-term commitment and practice, in honing one's artistic voice. I really enjoyed this chat and I hope you do too!

Penny has an upcoming exhibition 'Lost and Found' at Grainger Gallery in Canberra from the 13-30th of March 2025

You can find Penny here on Instagram

And her website here

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n this episode I have a great conversation with Kylie King-Hazel, a self-taught artist from Pōneke, Wellington. Kylie shares her experiences and motivations behind her art, which is deeply influenced by her personal journey and her desire to represent the beauty of Te Ao Māori for her Māori husband and children. We discuss the challenges of being a self-taught artist, including dealing with self-doubt and the importance of mentorship. Kylie highlights the transformative role of AI in her work and the cultural considerations in her art practice. The conversation also touches on the significance of community, patience, and self-belief in this crazy career choice of ours!

You can find Kylie here on instagram 

Mentioned in this episode:

David Kassan

Shana Levenson

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In this episode of The Creative Kind, I sit down with Nic Dempster, a painter from Ōtepoti Dunedin, New Zealand, to discuss NZ art fairs. Nic shares his journey of entering the art fair scene, providing insights into how he chooses which fairs to attend and some of the challenges he’s faced. We discuss the different types of art fairs in New Zealand, the importance of exposure, and the logistical aspects of participating in these events. Nic also shares practical advice for artists, including the importance of having business cards, preparing spiels, handling constructive feedback, and staying energised throughout the fair. The conversation delves into the benefits of community and networking within art fairs, highlighting both the opportunities and obstacles that come with this unique marketplace.

You can find Nic here:

You can also find his artwork at: DeNovo, Flagstaff, Mobile Art, Art on Thames, ArtBox and  Soul Gallery.

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In this episode I speaks with Sarah Birtles, an art dealer and the founder of Sarah Birtles Art and Advice. With over a decade of experience in commercial and public galleries, Sarah has built a business that connects individuals and businesses with original artworks through art fairs, online sales, and in-home consultations.

Sarah shares her insights into the different tiers of art fairs in Australia, the risks and rewards of participating in them, and how she selects which artists and artworks to bring to different locations. She also discusses how collectors engage with her artists and provides valuable advice for artists considering selling their work at an art fair.

Sarah shares her thoughts on maintaining confidence, avoiding common pitfalls, and presenting artwork effectively. We also discuss the role of galleries and dealers at fairs, the etiquette for artists approaching them, and how the art fair industry is evolving in Australia and New Zealand. 

Mentioned in this episode:

• Sarah Birtles
• Ben Tankard
• Fiona Smith
• The Affordable Art Fair
• The Other Art Fair
• Sydney Contemporary
• Melbourne Art Fair

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In this episode I talk to Cass Deller, a surface pattern designer about her unique approach to business, productivity, and creativity. Cass shares her journey of building a creative practice, she discusses the challenges and rewards of balancing multiple roles, including managing courses, licensing designs, and experimental creative work. Cass also touches on the practical aspects of running a business, such as using administrative help, leveraging social media organically, and trialing new marketing strategies like Facebook ads. She highlights the importance of continuous learning, community support, and embracing her unique way of working for long-term success. I really enjoyed hearing about how Cass has built a successful creative business by following her intuition and playing to her strengths, I hope you do too!

You can find Cass’ Website here

You can find her instagram here

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In this episode I interview Laura Horn, an artist, podcaster, YouTuber, and teacher, discussing organisational tools and mindsets. Laura emphasises the importance of a flexible approach and learning from both successes and mistakes. She shares her experiences in building systems for her business, including the use of virtual assistants to streamline tasks and free up creative time. The conversation highlights the value of thinking big, simplifying ideas, and breaking them down into manageable tasks. Laura also talks about strategies for email management, the importance of having a good email provider, and using tools like Flowdesk for segmentation and automation. Additionally, she touches on the balance between business tasks and creative work, suggesting approaches like dedicating specific days for admin or creative activities. Laura discusses the use of social media schedulers and shares her methods for switching between business mode and creative mode and the constant juggle to maintain momentum in an art practice. Finally, she offers insights on how these organisational tools ultimately support more creative freedom and time.

You can find Laura’s Website here

You can find her instagram here

You can find her podcast here

And her vlog here

Tools that Laura mentioned in this episode:

Flowdesk

Sanebox

CoSchedule

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In this end of season episode we hear from 5 of this seasons former guests to explore the feeling of overwhelm. The episode features candid conversations where each guest shares their personal experiences, coping mechanisms, and strategies to manage overwhelm. Guests include Fleur Wickes, Sarah Birtles, Andrew Sleeman, Cass Deller & Dr Lou Cooper , who talk about structuring time, setting boundaries. the challenges of balancing multiple projects, dealing with external pressures, mental exhaustion and the importance of self-care practices like meditation and breathwork (and so much more!). Part two coming soon!

Mentioned in this episode:

• Fleur Wickes mentioned : The Art Show by ABC Listen ‘CJ Hendry and who gets to decide 'what is art'
• Cass Deller mentioned Owaken
• Julie Mentioned : -The breathwork club 
• Dr Lou Mentioned : “I’m Scared of Therapy”

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In part two of end-of-season wrap-up, I delve into the topic of overwhelm again with Laura Horn, Nic Dempster, Rach Mayne, Penny Boyd & Kylie King-Hazel from season four. The discussion covers definitions of overwhelm and burnout, personal experiences with these states, and practical strategies for managing them. We talk about the emotional and cognitive states of overwhelm, insights on finding solace in creative work amidst chaos, the importance of taking breaks and setting boundaries & the guests share approaches schedules, calendars lists and timing! I hope you enjoy these reflections on how goals and expectations evolve over time and the importance of self-care in sustaining a creative practice.

See you Next Season!

Please sing out if you’ve got a question, you can email me at thecreativekindpodcast@gmail.com, or Dm me on instagram here. Or submit a question online here: 

Mentioned in the pod:

Laura recommended these four podcasts:

• The CEO Collective Podcast
• Off the Grid
• The Amy Porterfield Show
• Susan Nethercote Studio Insider Podcast

Kylie Discussed these two artists:

• Kehinde Wiley 
• Elisa Anfuso

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