The Create With Podcast (formerly the NoCode SaaS Podcast) (Create With)

In this episode Glenn is away, so James and Kieran give their updates and discuss a variety of topics including:

• Reducing early customer churn
• Learning from your customers
• Freemium plans or free trials?
• Pricing experiments
• Do people care about validating their ideas?
• Potential pivots
• Marketplace functionality

What we're working on

Glenn's SaaS is NoCode Kids, a learning management system to teach kids about no-code, built on Webflow.

Kieran's SaaS is Yep.so, a super fast landing page builder and idea validation tool, built on Bubble.

James' SaaS is Userloop, a customer feedback tool for Shopify merchants, built on Bubble.

Kieran discusses the launch of his new all in one Bubble SaaS template and James gives an update on the latest AI features in his app, and how to add a translation feature to Bubble apps. We also discuss the latest AI model from Anthropic. There's also an update on the NoCodeUK event which is coming on May 21st to London.

We just got back from BubbleCon in NYC and a couple of weeks before that we were at the NoCode Summit in Paris.

In this episode we discuss both events, including:

• Product announcements at BubbleCon including mobile apps, Bubble AI, and bulk data manipulation
• What it was like meeting members of the NoCode community in real life
• Visiting the Bubble Office

This was our first live podcast, we hope you enjoy it!

This week we talk about exciting upcoming events in the Bubble & NoCode ecosystem. We also discuss why you should consider using a UI Kit to build your app in Bubble.

Mentioned in this Episode:

NoCode Summit 2023.

BubbleCon 2023.

Basis by Josh Munsch

Frames

WritePanda by Kamal Kannan

What we're working on:

Kieran's SaaS is Yep.so, a super fast landing page builder and idea validation tool, built on Bubble.

James' SaaS is UserLoop, a customer feedback tool for Shopify merchants, built on Bubble.

In this episode Kieran and James discuss what happened in 2023 in nocode. We talk about the events, developments in AI and our own businesses over the year.

- What were the best nocode events in 2023?

- What is the impact of AI on nocode into 2024?

- How do you pick what idea to work on?

- What's coming at the NoCodeUK event in May in 2024.

Discover all this and much more in this week's episode!

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Join us in Episode 22 of the No-Code SaaS Podcast, where hosts James and Kieran explore the thrilling intersection of no-code development and AI in the SaaS industry.

We take a look at what's ahead for the nocode space in 2024 and what we'll be working on this year....

• Excitement for the Upcoming No-Code UK Event: Get a sneak peek into the preparations and speaker lineup for this much-anticipated event in May.
• The Art of Focusing: Learn about our approaches to selecting and concentrating on impactful projects in the no-code space.
• Building a No-Code Boilerplate App: Kieran tells us about his development of a boilerplate in Bubble to streamline SaaS creation.
• Challenge of a New AI-Focused SaaS Product: James talks about his new side project goal to build a no code SaaS to $1,000 MRR in 60 days.

Tune in for an engaging discussion that blends the latest in no-code development with the cutting-edge advancements in AI. Whether you're a budding entrepreneur or a seasoned developer, this episode is packed with valuable insights and forward-thinking ideas.

James and Kieran kick off 2025 with an in-depth discussion about the evolving landscape of app development.

Kieran shares updates on his latest projects - Typoro (a LinkedIn post optimizer) and an AI TikTok video generator - while exploring the nuances of AI prompt engineering. The conversation delves into the concept of "hybrid building," combining no-code platforms like Bubble with traditional databases like Supabase and AI-generated code.

They discuss the potential of AI agents, self driving startups, and how to effectively balance visual development with code-based solutions.

Don't forget, the Create With Conference is returning on May 22nd, 2025 in London! Get your ticket now at https://createwith.com

Join us for this special edition of the Create With Podcast filmed at Bubble HQ in New York, just after the closing of the second ever BubbleCon! We're joined by Andrew Vernon and Sam Morgan from Bubble to talk through our highlights from the 2 days - including...

• The new Bubble Native Mobile editor starting to roll out in beta
• Bubble Assist AI to help build apps from a prompt
• Our top plugins and tips for working with AI in Bubble
• What to expect in the coming year for 2025

Create With empowers anyone to build software—whether using code, NoCode, or AI. We believe in making development accessible to all, no matter the tools or stack. From founders to agencies, we're here to help you bring your ideas to life. Let’s create something amazing together! Find us online: Subscribe to the free newsletter: https://social.createwith.com Web: https://createwith.com Twitter: https://x.com/createwithhq

In this episode we give updates on our progress since the last episode and discuss platform risk in the no-code space.

What we're working on

Glenn's SaaS is NoCode Kids, a learning management system to teach kids about no-code, built on Webflow.

Kieran's SaaS is Yep.so, a super fast landing page builder and idea validation tool, built on Bubble.

James' SaaS is Userloop, a customer feedback tool for Shopify merchants, built on Bubble.

In this episode James is away but Kieran, and Glenn talk about what they have been working on since the start of 2023. Note: this episode was recorded on 21 Jan 2023 and is late to be added (Glenn apologises for its lateness!).

After a long month of heads down work, Kieran reveals that he has launched his new course for people wanting to REALLY level up their Bubble skills. He takes his students on a journey from a blank screen to having a fully featured SaaS app which they could use to run a business if they so wish. We discuss who this course is intended for, why it packs so much value into it, and how the course + the accompanying Bubble app you can get with the course can be used in so many ways.

Glenn then discusses his very positive experience with using Wized v2 to launch the second version of his MVP for NoCode Kids. Overall, he's very impressed and pleased with his choice of tech stack for now and for the future of NCK. He then goes on to introduce his idea for a community he is building and why he believes it is so important based on his own experiences of being "in community" online. Watch this space for more details on that one but he's very excited about its potential for impacting NoCoders anyway 😉

What we're working on

Glenn's SaaS is NoCode Kids, a learning management system to teach kids about no-code, built on Webflow.

Kieran's SaaS is Yep.so, a super fast landing page builder and idea validation tool, built on Bubble.

James' SaaS is Userloop, a customer feedback tool for Shopify merchants, built on Bubble.

• James talks about escaping Shopify platform risk and diversifying his app with an embeddable version.
• We talk about learning and overcoming the fear of new things.
• Glenn announces the launch of his new project!
• Kieran gives an update on his price increase and talks about a voice-powered AI site builder he built.

What we're working on:

Glenn's SaaS is NoCode Kids, a learning management system to teach kids about no-code, built on Webflow, and

Kieran's SaaS is Yep.so, a super fast landing page builder and idea validation tool, built on Bubble.

James' SaaS is Userloop, a customer feedback tool for Shopify merchants, built on Bubble.

In this episode, James and Kieran dive into the evolving landscape of AI-powered code generation and how it impacts the future of no-code tools.

They discuss their hands-on experiences with the latest AI models, explore the capabilities of different agent platforms, and share insights on upcoming conference events.

[00:40] The rise of AI code generators and Kieran's newsletter on their limitations[06:42] Why no-code tools remain relevant despite AI advancements[10:41] Recent improvements in AI models (Grok 3 and Claude 3.7 Sonnet)[19:16] Bubble's AI editor vs NoCodeFusion and competitive innovation[21:40] The power of combining no-code platforms with AI-generated code[24:40] Deep dive into different agent platforms (Zapier, N8N, Cloudflare)[31:40] Create With conference updates and AI-focused sessions

No-code tools aren't going anywhere! Despite the hype around AI coding assistants, visual development platforms still offer unmatched reliability and understandability for non-technical users. The future lies in combining these approaches rather than replacing one with the other.

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In this episode James, Kieran, and Glenn meet for the first time ever (!) in a swanky recording studio in SOHO, London. We talk about our respective experiences of 2022 by doing a quick year-in-review but we also express how grateful we are for our customers, for the people with whom we have worked, collaborated and met along the journey.

We also announce our first sponsor of this podcast: NoCode-Exits.com created by the awesome, Katt Risen (@kattrisen). Katt's free newsletter helps you to learn from real-life no-code success and exit stories in a weekly 5-minute interview... and it's awesome so make sure to sign up.

Finally, we spend some time here talking about what we think will develop in 2023 as the NoCode movement kicks into a new gear. Naturally we wax lyrical about Bubble and whether a buy-out might be on the cards (😱); the huge new features and tools — like DevLink and the new Marketplace — coming out of Webflow's deep investment in their architecture, Open AI / ChatGPT; the future of home learning for our kids; the launch of new NoCode communities, both online and in real life, and more besides so enjoy!

Have a great start to 2023 and we'll see you again soon.

What we're working on

Glenn's SaaS is NoCode Kids, a learning management system to teach kids about no-code, built on Webflow.

Kieran's SaaS is Yep.so, a super fast landing page builder and idea validation tool, built on Bubble.

James' SaaS is Userloop, a customer feedback tool for Shopify merchants, built on Bubble.

In this episode James announces his big news as he reflects on the past 5 years and how he got to where he is today. We also discuss B2C vs B2B and how people like Pieter Levels (@levelsio on Twitter) and Danny Postma (@dannypostmaa on Twitter) have managed to crack the code with B2C using AI to great advantage but is it worth the risk chasing that big win?

Whilst mentioning Simon Høiberg (@SimonHoiberg on YouTube) we talk about how the best use of AI is fast becoming the role of an assistant in your app and so NoCoders are keenly jumping into the new ChatGPT API to see how they might add some killer features to their apps. James states how important AI will become in his SaaS product moving forwards with some really juicy early insights from his experimentation from which we can all learn.

Another drop-the-mic moment from James comes in the form of Tiny Bird and how it has transformed James's ability to process vast amounts of data in his NoCode solution. Definitely one worth learning about for anyone recording 100's of 1000's, even millions of rows of data in a database, but one which you need to query in a performant manner.

Kieran tells us about his experience with website/app roasting-as-a-service which he found very useful despite his reservations and so maybe more of us should be hiring roasters to help us to see the woods rather than the trees?

And, naturally, Kieran has started to delve into ChatGPT too and is considering how he could leverage it inside Yep.so

Glenn mentions an organisation called Big Change who are supplying grants to early stage ideas which are aiming to bring about transformation in the British education system and so, naturally, he has applied for recognition for his work he is doing with NoCode Kids. Let's see if they appreciate his ideas on teaching NoCode to kids in the school setting - watch this space.

What we're working on

Glenn's SaaS is NoCode Kids, a learning management system to teach kids about no-code, built on Webflow.

Kieran's SaaS is Yep.so, a super fast landing page builder and idea validation tool, built on Bubble.

James' SaaS is Userloop, a customer feedback tool for Shopify merchants, built on Bubble.

In this episode we talk about the recent posts from Flutterflow and Toddle discussing the term "No Code" - is it really the right term to describe visual development apps?

Plus we chat about the hype surrounding the new Cursor AI coding tool - is it the new secret weapon for building apps without coding?

Welcome to a special episode of the NoCode SaaS podcast!

Join us as we delve into the behind-the-scenes magic of organizing the UK's first NoCode & AI conference. James, Kieran, Ash, and Matt, the driving forces behind the NoCode UK event, share their experiences, challenges, and highlights from arranging the first conference.

In this episode we give updates on our progress since the last episode and discuss different types of marketing from in-app marketing to content and SEO.

What we're working on

Glenn's SaaS is NoCode Kids, a learning management system to teach kids about no-code, built on Webflow.

Kieran's SaaS is Yep.so, a super fast landing page builder and idea validation tool, built on Bubble.

James' SaaS is Userloop, a customer feedback tool for Shopify merchants, built on Bubble.

In this episode we discuss Bubble's latest announcement to support SOC 2 and launch Bubble for Enterprise - what does this mean for the no-code ecosystem?

Kieran talks about his exciting new project to help Bubble freelancers and clients connect.

James discusses the new Table elements and conditional logic editor in Bubble.

In this episode:

• James talks about partnerships and how they're helping him to grow Userloop
• We discuss the Bubble pricing change at length, and how it affects us.
• Glenn talks about his new project.
• Kieran talks about increasing prices on Yep.

What we're working on:

Glenn's SaaS is NoCode Kids, a learning management system to teach kids about no-code, built on Webflow.

Kieran's SaaS is Yep.so, a super fast landing page builder and idea validation tool, built on Bubble.

James' SaaS is Userloop, a customer feedback tool for Shopify merchants, built on Bubble.

In this episode we give updates on our progress since the last episode and spend time discussing the multiple projects 'small bets' approach vs single-project focus.

A mega episode today as Kieran drops the news that his NoCode SaaS, Yep.so, has been acquired! He talks through how it came about, the process, his feelings about it, and what he's going to do next.

And... drumroll please... we're organising a NoCode conference in the UK on May 21st 2024!

Get your tickets here: https://yep.so/p/nocodeuk

The following earlybird tickets are available:

20 tickets at £49 using code NOCODE49

20 tickets at £99 using code NOCODE99

20 tickets at £109 using code NOCODE109

20 tickets at £119 using code NOCODE119

20 tickets at £129 using code NOCODE129

20 tickets at £139 using code NOCODE139

All other tickets are £149 (full price)

In this episode James, Kieran, and Glenn talk about going full-time as a no-code maker at a time of economic uncertainty, James discusses his experience playing around with Xano as a potential external database, and we ponder Twitter's existential crisis.

What we're working on

Glenn's SaaS is NoCode Kids, a learning management system to teach kids about no-code, built on Webflow.

Kieran's SaaS is Yep.so, a super fast landing page builder and idea validation tool, built on Bubble.

James' SaaS is Userloop, a customer feedback tool for Shopify merchants, built on Bubble.

In this episode Kieran talks about his new SaaS MVP and the terrible concept of domain-first ideas, James talks about his recent focus on high-touch product demos and sales calls with potentially huge customers, and Glenn discusses the recent big news for Webflow users.

What we're working on

Glenn's SaaS is NoCode Kids, a learning management system to teach kids about no-code, built on Webflow.

Kieran's SaaS is Yep.so, a super fast landing page builder and idea validation tool, built on Bubble.

James' SaaS is Userloop, a customer feedback tool for Shopify merchants, built on Bubble.

This week we're talking about our favourite AI APIs to use with Bubble, Kieran updates us on his boilerplate, James talks about ditching his free pricing plans, and about a secret new app.

We're back with another episode of the No Code SaaS Podcast, and this time we're diving deep into the latest advancements in AI and how they're influencing our no-code SaaS projects. In this episode, we discuss:

- Exciting updates on our SaaS projects, "Yep" and "UserLoop," highlighting recent developments and new directions.

- Innovative use of AI in no-code app development, especially in the realm of content creation and customer interaction.

- Kieran's exploration of an AI-powered form builder project, aimed at revolutionizing interview processes.

- The evolving landscape of no-code tools and platforms, including a discussion on the future of no-code development in the context of AI integration.

This episode offers a unique perspective on the intersection of AI and no-code development, shared through our personal experiences and insights. We hope you find it as exciting and informative as we did recording it!

Will AI agents replace traditional SaaS products? Kieran & James explore this question while testing lovable.dev's ability to build apps through pure prompts. Learn about creating a "self-driving startup" using tools like N8N and Make, and get practical tips for automating your business processes.

• AI Agents & Self-Driving SaaS interview: nocodesaas.io/p/ai-agents-building-the-self-driving
• Bubble Security Tips with George Collier: youtube.com/live/KbLVKVWOu_w
• Conference tickets & newsletter: createwith.com

This week we talk about

How do you keep Stripe in sync with Bubble to manage customer subscriptions? We'll be diving into that, and how to manage webhooks to keep everything in sync. James updates us on his 60 day app build challenge and we talk about how to validate traction channels using keyword research tools. Kieran updates us on his Bubble boilerplate project and what's new in Yep.

Don't forget our No Code UK conference is coming up on Tues May 21st - early bird tickets are on sale now at https://nocodeuk.org

Sadly Glenn has had to take a break from the podcast due to other commitments so in this episode you're just left with James and Kieran discussing their updates.

• James talks marketing, including updating his marketing site, adding a new product category, and launching new features.
• He also goes into detail about how he thinks about marketing, tracking its impact, and the analytics he uses.
• Kieran bemoans his lack of product-market fit and talks about potentially launching some more products.
• He discusses the sectors he's been looking at and how he's approached doing research.
• Kieran also talks about Bubble freelancing and how he manages to get clients.
• Finally we discuss upcoming no-code events in Paris and New York!

What we're working on:

Glenn (on hiatus) is working on NoCode Kids, a learning management system to teach kids about no-code, built on Webflow.

Kieran's SaaS is Yep.so, a super fast landing page builder and idea validation tool, built on Bubble.

James' SaaS is Userloop, a customer feedback tool for Shopify merchants, built on Bubble.

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Mentioned in the show:

The Workflows Bubble jobs newsletter by Lee Launches

Wannabe Entrepreneur podcast by Tiago

Cien Solon is a former fintech product manager turned AI transformation expert. She now runs regular AI workshops teaching people how to use AI in the workplace and build AI agents.

She's also co-founder of Launch Lemonade - The Canva of AI Tools - which lets anyone build their own AI assistants and agents with no-code required. Amazingly it is also built on no-code platform Bubble!

In this fascinating interview we talk about:

• Cien's journey from PM to becoming an AI SaaS founder
• AI agents - what they are and where they're going
• How product managers can learn about AI
• What AI means for human creativity

Follow Cien on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ciensolon/

Get free tools and AI content here - ciensolon.com

Build your own AI business here - launchlemonade.app

Subscribe to Cien's youtube - youtube.com/@launchlemonade

In this episode of the NoCode SaaS Podcast, we dive into the integration of Anthropic AI with Bubble, exploring how this powerful combination can supercharge your no-code projects.

We also chat about the pros and cons of using HubSpot for your SaaS business – is it worth the money?

Finally, we share actionable tips on how to motivate yourself to tackle marketing tasks, even when it's the last thing you feel like doing.

Join us for these insights and more to elevate your no-code journey!

In this episode we discuss:

• Updates on our projects
• Why Kieran voluntarily switched Yep from a legacy price plan to one of Bubble’s new plans
• Ways to optimise workload units
• Why James has enjoyed doing a bit of freelancing
• UI kits are good
• James’ plans for the future of Userloop
• A new SaaS idea Kieran’s building
• AI chatbots and fine tuning GPT3.5
• Bubble’s new reusable elements feature

Mentioned in the podcast:

• Basis UI Kit
• Reusable elements forum post

What we're working on:

Kieran's SaaS is Yep.so, a super fast landing page builder and idea validation tool, built on Bubble.

James' SaaS is UserLoop, a customer feedback tool for Shopify merchants, built on Bubble.

What happens when you combine AI with no-code tools?

This week, Kieran shares his adventures building a faceless video generator and experimenting with AI image creation, while James reveals how he's using Claude and Cloudflare workers to scale UserLoop in ways that weren't possible a year ago.

Plus: why some SaaS pricing has gotten out of control... and what that means for indie makers. All this and a reminder about Create With Conference early bird tickets closing soon!

Get your ticket to the UK's first AI and NoCode Conference in London on May 22nd 2025 at https://createwith.com

This is the first episode of the NoCode SaaS Podcast. The three of us give an introduction to our products and discuss the experience of building SaaS businesses with no-code tools.

Join James, Ash and Kieran as we talk about the new name for the NoCode SaaS Podcast as Create With and what you can expect from the pod! Create With is your go-to platform for unlocking the power of AI and NoCode to build and grow profitable software businesses, even if you don’t know how to code. Through our annual conference, podcast, tutorials, and network of makers, we provide practical insights, inspiring stories, and hands-on guidance to empower creators at every stage. Whether you're launching your first startup or scaling your business, Create With helps you turn ideas into reality without traditional development skills. Subscribe to our free NoCode and AI newsletter at https://social.createwith.com

Find us at https://createwith.com Twitter/X: https://x.com/createwithhq

Join us for a special filmed live from the NoCode Summit at Station F in Paris! James, Ash & Kieran talk about everything that happened at the summit, our favourite moments and how to plan your own visit. Create With empowers anyone to build software—whether using code, NoCode, or AI. We believe in making development accessible to all, no matter the tools or stack. From founders to agencies, we're here to help you bring your ideas to life. Let’s create something amazing together! Find us online: Join us for the UK's first NoCode and AI conference in London on May 22nd 2025! Check out https://createwith.com for details! Subscribe to the free newsletter: https://social.createwith.com Web: https://createwith.com Twitter: https://x.com/createwithhq

In this episode James and Glenn talk about building in public, James talks about using code to escape platform risk, and Glenn gives his updates on NoCodeKids with thoughts on subscription models and using Xano as an external database.

What we're working on

Glenn's SaaS is NoCode Kids, a learning management system to teach kids about no-code, built on Webflow.

Kieran's SaaS is Yep.so, a super fast landing page builder and idea validation tool, built on Bubble.

James' SaaS is Userloop, a customer feedback tool for Shopify merchants, built on Bubble.