The Coach's Journey - build a coaching business with integrity (Robbie Swale)

Katie Harvey has been coaching for more than 18 years. In that time, she has racked up more than 14,000 hours of coaching which, she says, is more than any other coach she has met over that time. She was part of the vanguard of coaches in the UK and for more than 12 years has worked to support other coaches: supervising and mentoring coaches and training new coaches, including through CoachU.

In this episode, we talk about:

- How she racked up more than 14,000 hours of coaching.

- The advantages and disadvantages of being part of the vanguard of coaching.

- The question of 'niche' and why Katie calls herself a generalist coach.

- What business and pricing model Katie has settled on after 18 years of experimentation.

- And how a trying a coaching sales technique on a photographer.... ended up with them getting married!

For more information about Katie, email her at katie@katieharveycoaching.co.uk.

For full show notes, an extended biography of Katie and more about the podcast’s host, Robbie Swale, The Coach’s Journey podcast as a whole and The Coach’s Journey group programme, visit www.thecoachsjourney.com.

For information about Robbie’s wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswalecoaching.com.

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify at https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):

~13 minutes: CoachU - http://www.coachinc.com/CoachU/

~25: Vegard Olsen – https://coachingpartner.net/cp/en/vegard-olsen-2/

~26: Laura Burkey - https://www.facebook.com/LauraBurkeyCoaching/

~35: The Prosperous Coach by Rich Litvin and Steve Chandler - https://richlitvin.com/the-prosperous-coach/

~46: Clare Pedrick - https://www.3dcoaching.com/claire-pedrick-mcc/

~46: Bill Cummings - https://www.theboothbyinstitute.org/

~70: Robbie’s video about how his coaching fees evolved over time - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-BSI5Cb8mU

~80: Katie’s website - http://katieharveycoaching.co.uk/

~96: Michael Neill - https://www.michaelneill.org/

~99: Local International Coaching Federation Chapters: https://coachfederation.org/why-icf/chapter-map

~99: Local Association for Coaching events: https://www.associationforcoaching.com/page/EventsOverview

Phil Bolton is an International Coaching Federation Accredited Master Coach. After training as a forensic accountant and then working as an in-house coach at Deloitte in California, Phil moved back to his native UK and set out to become the go-to career coach in London. Then, after supporting hundreds of clients to take control of their career and find work they love, he started his second coaching business: supporting leaders and organisations that are pushing the boundaries, innovating and aiming to creating a better and more joyful world.

Phil was also fundamental in Robbie’s (and many others’) development and learning as a coach through his now ‘resting’ coach training organisation, The Coaching School. Through that experience and others, he carries a wealth of experience in how to create amazing coaching experiences for clients on everything from holding boundaries with clients, to co-creating and partnership, to sales.

In this episode, we talk about:

- How he transitioned from forensic accountant to the go-to career coach in London, including how he created and developed that niche.

- What he learned about how to structure a coaching engagement for someone changing careers from coaching hundreds and hundreds of people going through transition.

- Why he left behind a full practice working with career changers to shift to working with MDs, CEOs and owners not just coaching them but supporting them across their businesses.

- The ‘hard’ third or fourth coaching session: why his favourite bit of coaching engagements is the moment where clients doubt if the change they want is going to happen.

- What Phil has learnt about sales from 13 years of running his businesses.

- Why building a business that supports his lifestyle and self-care is fundamentally important to Phil.

For more information about Phil, visit www.phil-bolton.com or find Phil on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/lessordinaryliving/

For full show notes, an extended biography of Phil and more about the podcast’s host, Robbie Swale, The Coach’s Journey podcast as a whole and The Coach’s Journey group programme, visit www.thecoachsjourney.com.

For information about Robbie’s wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswalecoaching.com.

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify at https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):

IPEC coaching training: https://www.ipeccoaching.com/

Rich Litvin: http://richlitvin.com

The Coaching School: http://www.thecoachingschool.co.uk

Minor Arias is a Costa Rican coach and entrepreneur and the author of two forthcoming books: VIVE por DISEÑO (LIVING by DESIGN) and Ya soy Coach, ¿y ahora qué? (I’m a coach, now what?). After 17 years working, managing and leading in multinational corporations, Minor became the first Hewlett Packard employee to receive coaching training in Costa Rica and set off on a journey into the world of coaching. It wasn’t all plain sailing, though: at the end of his first year as an entrepreneur he had made less than he would have in a month at Hewlett Packard and was on the edge of bankruptcy. Then a chance encounter via Toastmasters set him off on a journey to the thriving coaching business he runs today.

In this episode, we talk about:

- How Minor didn’t find coaching, coaching found him.

- Why he chose to focus his work around coaching and not two other things he loves: speaking and training.

- The simple calendar tool that his first coach taught him which led to turning his failing coaching practice around.

- The origins of his new company, Vive Por Diseno (Living By Design).

- What Minor has learned from founding that company: three key ideas for designing your own life.

Plus, listen out for my incredibly shaky Spanish and Minor’s beautiful English and wonderful accent.

For more information about Minor, visit www.lideresdeterminados.com or find him on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/minorarias/

For full show notes, an extended biography of Minor and more about the podcast’s host, Robbie Swale, The Coach’s Journey podcast as a whole and The Coach’s Journey group programme, visit www.thecoachsjourney.com.

For information about Robbie’s wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswalecoaching.com.

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):

~22 - John Maxwell Team and Certification: https://johnmaxwellteam.com

~24 – The 360 Degree Leader by John Maxwell

~28 – Toastmasters: https://www.toastmasters.org/

~45 – Toastmasters Costa Rica: https://www.toastmasters.org/Find-a-Club/05159852-toastmasters-costa-rica

~51 – Jason Leonard: https://www.linkedin.com/in/%E2%98%85jason-leon-l-i-o-n-9k-followers-%E2%98%85-33594a32

~60 – The Prosperous Coach by Rich Litvin and Steve Chandler

~60 – The other podcast guest I mentioned, who read the Prosperous Coach and was relieved to find she was already doing it, was Katie Harvey. Listen to the full interview with Katie here: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-1-katie-harvey-14000-hours-of-coaching-being-part-of-the-uk-coaching-vanguard-and-being-a-generalist-coach

Catriona Horey is an executive coach based in London and a lead trainer, supervisor and assessor of coaching for the MOE Foundation. She spent the first ten years of her career transforming the performance of nonprofits, social enterprises and leaders in social innovation, but in 2013 a bereavement and a collapsed lung led to her reassessing her priorities, with the message ‘I’m too far away from the joy’ appearing in her mind. That set her off on her journey into coaching, leading to a thriving business today working with leaders in social innovation, high potential professionals and women who want to redefine their priorities.

In this episode, we talk about:

- How becoming a mother has been fundamental in the way she has developed her business and how it is possible to have it all, but over a lifetime.

- The question her coach asked her which made her look at her whole career plan completely differently.

- Marketing: why you should choose the marketing strategy that works for YOU, and the marketing distinction that made the difference for Catriona.

- What Catriona did to generate 11 clients when her first batch of practice clients wrapped up.

- The way Catriona thinks and talks about her purpose in life.

Over the course of this podcast, Catriona and I hit SO MANY of the common questions and challenges coaches face, including money, the question of niche, coaching on the phone, networking, connecting and more. And in case we had missed any, make sure to listen to the end for Catriona’s five brilliant tips to shortcut to coaching success!

www.thecoachsjourney.com

For more information about Catriona, find her on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/catrionahorey or visit her (minimalist) website, which has been ‘coming soon’ ever since I met her, at https://www.withcatriona.com/

For information about Robbie’s wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswalecoaching.com.

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):

~2 mins – Future Leaders Trust, now rebranded as Ambition School Leadership: https://www.ambition.org.uk/

~4 - Andrea Berkeley: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrea-berkeley-4056673/

~15 – Camilla Mendoza: https://camillamendoza.com/

~22 –Simon Hampel: https://leadersquest.org/people/simon-hampel

~23 – MOE Foundation: https://moefoundation.com/

~25 – Culture at Work: http://www.coachingcultureatwork.com/ and Carol Wilson: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/coachingcultureatwork

~27 – Natalie Scholey: https://www.linkedin.com/in/natalie-scholey/

~28 – Tony Phillips: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/tonyjphillips

~32 – Rich Litvin: https://richlitvin.com/

~33 – Coaches Rising: https://www.coachesrising.com/

~33 – CTI + their certification programme: https://coactive.com/

~37 - Nicole Berg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicolejberg/ and Coaching at Work: https://www.coaching-at-work.com/

~42 – International Coaching Federation (ICF): https://coachfederation.org/ and their credentials, ACC and PCC: https://coachfederation.org/icf-credential

~44 – Anna Lundberg: https://annaselundberg.com/

~45- The Prosperous Coach by Rich Litvin and Steve Chandler: https://richlitvin.com/the-prosperous-coach/

~48 - My LinkedIn Articles: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robbieswale/detail/recent-activity/posts/ and the first post I wrote as part of the ’12 minute’/train practice I designed with my coach: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/train-series-1-stories-robbie-swale/

~64 – Catriona’s LinkedIn page: https://www.linkedin.com/in/catrionahorey

~66 – Climate Change Coaches and their Coaching Circle: https://www.climatechangecoaches.com/startyourjourney

~69 – The Wildfowl and Wetlands Trust, Slimbridge: https://www.wwt.org.uk/wetland-centres/slimbridge

~70 – Ramsar Treaty: https://www.ramsar.org/ ~93 – Robert Holden: https://www.robertholden.com/

~95 – Darren Robson: https://www.darrenrobson.com/

~96 – Ben Dooley: http://bedo.org/

~99 – Catriona’s List of Training: Masterful Coaching Mentor Group - Ben Dooley MCC - Completed 2018; Narrative Coach Enhanced Practitioner - WBECS (Dr David Drake) - Qualified 2018; Certified Professional Co-Active Coach (CPCC) - The Coaches Training Institute - Qualified 2015; Associate Certified Coach (ACC) and Member - International Coach Federation - Qualified 2015; Licensed Firework Career Coach - The Firework Coaching Company - Qualified 2015; Organisation & Relationship Systems at Work - CRR Global - Completed 2015; Core Skills Coaching Programme (Education Sector) - Growth Coaching International - Completed 2015; Coaching and the Enneagram - Success Intelligence (Robert Holden) - Completed 2014; MOE Professional Certified Coach - The MOE Foundation - Qualified 2014

~102 – Ann Farrell: https://www.linkedin.com/in/annfarrell1/

~109 – WBECS: https://www.wbecs.com/, London Coaching Group: https://www.londoncoachinggroup.co.uk/

~110 – Hub Dot: https://hubdot.com/

James Bianco is a leadership and career coach and the founder of 16 Degrees Coaching. He spent 11 years working for the UK Department for International Development, working with ministers and introducing the Lean Start-Up methodology across DFID’s development programmes. Then, a desire to really see the positive impact of his work led him to discover coaching. He hasn’t looked back, clocking up over 2,000 hours of coaching in the first four years of his practice, including running career change webinars for thousands of people.

In this episode, we talk about:

- How learning the craft of coaching works and how ‘trying hard’ to become a great coach in fact is not the way to become a great coach.

- The power of the stories we have about our success: how the simple story he had about successful coaches – that they work only on recommendation – at first empowered him to create a thriving business… and then made him doubt himself.

- What he learnt from running coaching calls for over 100 people at a time for career-change experts Careershifters.

- Networking: how James used his network to create opportunities, recommendations and referrals, and the importance of dispelling the myths we have about our networks.

And listen out for the beautiful - and surprising - answer James gives when I ask him how he filled all the time he had when he left his civil service role to coach full time.

www.thecoachsjourney.com

For more information about James, visit his website: https://www.16degreescoaching.co.uk/ or find him on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-bianco/

For information about Robbie’s wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswalecoaching.com.

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):

~10: The Grameen Bank: http://www.grameen.com/introduction/

~10: Overseas Development Institute Fellowship Programme: https://www.odi.org/odi-fellowship-scheme

~13: Marianne Craig: https://www.coachlifeandcareer.com/

~18: Phil Bolton – Read about Phil here: http://phil-bolton.com/ or get to know him by listening to my interview with him in Episode #2: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-2-phil-bolton-from-forensic-accountant-to-the-go-to-career-coach-in-london-and-on-to-work-with-ceos-mds-and-founders

~18: The Coaching School: http://www.thecoachingschool.co.uk/

~22: Jim Dethmer: https://conscious.is/team/jim-dethmer

~32: International Coach Federation (ICF) Competencies: https://coachfederation.org/core-competencies

~38: Oxford Brooks Certification as a Skills and Performance Coach: https://www.brookes.ac.uk/courses/postgraduate/coaching-and-mentoring-practice/

~67: Jennifer Garvey Berger: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/jennifer-garvey-berger-7b4a264 and her book: Unlocking Leadership Mindtraps: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Unlocking-Leadership-Mindtraps-Thrive-Complexity/dp/1503609014

~72: Omidyar Network: https://www.omidyar.com/

~72: Luminate: https://www.omidyargroup.com/pov/organizations/luminate/

~74: Careershifters: http://www.careershifters.org/

~75: The Careershifters articles Robbie most regularly shares with clients: https://www.careershifters.org/expert-advice/the-lean-career-change-how-to-reduce-the-risk-and-increase-the-speed-of-your-shift and https://www.careershifters.org/expert-advice/struggling-to-find-your-ideal-work-why-looking-for-your-career-umbrella-will-get-you

~96: The Prosperous Coach by Rich Litvin and Steve Chandler: https://richlitvin.com/the-prosperous-coach/

~104: OCHA: https://www.unocha.org/

~104: Social Tech Trust: https://socialtechtrust.org/

Joel Monk is a coach whose work transforms leaders beyond the limits of conventional success, and the Co-Founder of Coaches Rising, a community of over 19,000 coaches dedicated to having the biggest impact they can. Working as a community artist - and after a difficult period in his life - he moved into a Bhuddist house. There he met a coach, his soul spoke to him and he set off on a journey which has led him to coaching bank CEOs, TV personalities and… well… me!

Alongside that, Joel and his Co-Founder Laurens Van Aarle created Coaches Rising, a pioneering training organisation bringing together thought-leaders from across the world and empowering coaches to create ever-better results. Coaches Rising brings together tens of thousands of coaches, has an amazing podcast (hosted by Joel), and runs some of the best (and best value) coach trainings available.

All this means that Joel has spent time with many (if not most) of the most forward-thinking people in the world of coaching, which gives him perspectives on everything from enrolling clients to myriad coaching techniques to the newest and most advanced ideas at the cutting edge of what makes great coaching.

In this episode, we talk about:

- How problem solving and goal-setting can be traps that coaches fall into and what to do instead.

- How he ended up living out of his jar of loose change and how being broke helped him change his story about money.

- The roles serendipity and a tantric sex retreat played in him getting his most rewarding coaching gig ever.

- His three pieces of advice for those new to coaching, and why he has faith that sincerity, dedication to the craft and putting the time in can make amazing things possible in anyone’s life.

Plus, we have a conversation about the role coaching has to play in the strange, complex and sometimes-unsettling modern world.

For more information about Joel, visit his website: http://joel-monk.com/ or Coaches Rising: https://www.coachesrising.com/

For information about Robbie’s wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswalecoaching.com.

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):

~8: Robbie’s colleague Jo Hunter’s TEDx Talk about Creativity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eun2mJMs1DM and her everyday creativity company, 64 Million Artists: https://64millionartists.com/

~12: Rivca Rubin: http://www.rivcarubin.com/

~13: Fred Kofman (https://fredkofman.org/), Integral Naked and Ken Wilber (https://integrallife.com/who-is-ken-wilber/)

~20: Robbie’s Twelve-Minute Writing Practice. You can browse all the pieces here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robbieswale/detail/recent-activity/posts/ Or this one gives a description of the practice and its origins: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/creativity-fear-freedom-robbie-swale/

~20: Steven Pressfield and The War of Art: (https://stevenpressfield.com/)

~25: Rich Litvin: https://richlitvin.com/

~30: THNK (School of Creative Leadership): https://www.thnk.org/

~35: Tim Ferriss: https://tim.blog/

~37: Jamie Wheal and his book, Stealing Fire: https://www.flowgenomeproject.com/team/jamie-wheal

~37: The mouse study Robbie mentions (thanks Peter): https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2018/05/scientists-find-fear-courage-switches-in-brain.html

~54: Laurens Van Aarle (https://www.coachesrising.com/about/), Ewan Townhead (https://www.ewantownhead.com/) & Coaches Rising (https://www.coachesrising.com)

~55: Coaches Rising Podcast: https://www.coachesrising.com/podcast/

~56: The two Coaches Rising programmes I have been on: Become a Transformative Presence (https://www.coachesrising.com/becomeatransformativepresence/) & The Art of Developmental Coaching (https://www.coachesrising.com/artofdevelopmentalcoaching/)

~57: Coaches Rising Podcast with Richard Boyatzis about the neuroscience of goal setting: https://www.coachesrising.com/podcast/how-to-access-optimum-growth-states-in-coaching/

~66: Peter Levine on polyvagal theory - this is the video that I watched, which I mention: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiIm9NTC2JU. You might want to start from the first part of the series, though!

~67: Jim Dethmer: https://conscious.is/team/jim-dethmer

~68: Doug Silsbee and Presence-Based Coaching: https://presencebasedcoaching.com/

~69: Steve March and Aletheia Coaching: https://integralunfoldment.com/

~70: Circling: https://www.circlingeurope.com/

~72: Rich Litvin: https://richlitvin.com/

~72: Thomas Hübl: https://thomashuebl.com/

~73: Jennifer Garvey Berger and her book, Unlocking Leadership Mindtraps: https://www.cultivatingleadership.co.nz/our-team/jennifer-garvey-berger

~77: Steven Pinker: https://stevenpinker.com/publications/enlightenment-now-case-reason-science-humanism-and-progress

~78: Daniel Schmachtenberger, Jordan Hall, Jamie Wheal (again), Rebel Wisdom, A good introduction to these thinkers is via the Rebel Wisdom YouTube Channel website (https://www.rebelwisdom.co.uk/) or YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFQ6Gptuq-sLflbJ4YY3Umw

~78: Thomas Hübl (again), Circling (again).

~79: Dave Snowden: https://cognitive-edge.com/. His framework, Cynefin, gives incredibly useful distinctions between complicated and complex. This is a great introductory video to Cynefin, with Jennifer Garvey Berger: https://conversational-leadership.net/video/video-an-introduction-to-cynefin/

~81: Martin Heidegger: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Heidegger

~82: Guy Sengstock: https://guysengstock.wordpress.com/

~84: Margaret Wheatley - here’s Joel’s conversation with Margaret Wheatley on the Coaches Rising podcast: https://www.coachesrising.com/podcast/coaching-from-deep-service-in-times-of-collapse/

~95: Jim Dethmer: https://conscious.is/team/jim-dethmer

~100: THNK (again): https://www.thnk.org/

~102: Joel’s website. He hasn’t had one for most of the time I’ve known him. http://joel-monk.com/

~106: Angela Duckworth: https://angeladuckworth.com/

~111: Minor Arias and The Coach’s Journey Podcast Episode #03, with him, which I mention: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-3-minor-arias-living-by-design-glz56

~111: Rich Litvin (https://richlitvin.com/), Steve Chandler (https://www.stevechandler.com/), Kari Granger (https://www.coachesrising.com/podcast/how-to-enrol-clients-and-create-amazing-proposals/)

Kristen Kosinski is a coach, consultant and founder who empowers her clients to achieve the impossible, lead fearlessly, inspire others and manifest their dreams. Midway through a career as a successful executive in Hollywood, Kristen sat down with a woman on the recommendation of a friend. That woman was Mona Miller, the late coach, author and teacher, and over the next 12 years Mona and Kristen worked together as Kristen’s career and relationships were transformed. As part of that work, she founded The Samburu Project, a non-profit organisation which has brought clean drinking water to over 100,000 people in Africa.

Then, in 2016, after leaving The Samburu Project, she set off to do the work that she had learned from Mona, training as a coach and developing a business through a commitment to courage and doing her own deep work… among many other things.

In this episode, we talk about:

- How two hours with Mona Miller - the first time she felt all her messiness had been truly seen, in the most extraordinarily loving way - transformed her.

- How Kristen came to believe that we live in a world where you can literally live your dreams, and why so many are afraid to even speak about their dreams, let alone follow them.

- How visiting her father after his terminal cancer diagnosis gave her permission to leave behind the dream she had had as a child and strike out on a new path

- The writing practice she uses to deal with the pain of getting ‘No’s.

Plus, in the final part of the call, Kristen and I get into detail exploring, together, some of the questions about how to structure coaching engagements, what the optimal length is and whether to offer one-off conversations to potential clients.

For more information about Kristen, visit her website: https://kristenkosinski.com/

For information about Robbie’s wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswalecoaching.com.

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):

First things first, mentioned throughout the call, Mona Miller: http://www.monamiller.com/

~9: Rich Litvin: https://richlitvin.com/

~23: The non-profit organisation Kristen founded, The Samburu Project: https://thesamburuproject.org/

~35: Rich Litvin’s not-currently-offered Prosperous Coach Salon

~46: iPEC/the Institute for Professional Excellence in Coaching: https://www.ipeccoaching.co.uk/

~46: Coach U: http://www.coachinc.com/CoachU/

~50: The Prosperous Coach by Rich Litvin and Steve Chandler: https://richlitvin.com/the-prosperous-coach/

~52: Katie Harvey and the episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast with her as the guest: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-1-katie-harvey-14000-hours-of-coaching-being-part-of-the-uk-coaching-vanguard-and-being-a-generalist-coach

~59: Invisible Warfare by Mona Miller: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Invisible-Warfare-Mona-Miller/dp/0978665201

~77: The Artist’s Way and Julia Cameron: https://juliacameronlive.com/the-artists-way/

~82: Marianne Williamson: https://marianne.com/

~82: A Course in Miracles by Dr Helen Schucman: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0018A01L4

~82: An example of Marianne Williamson’s work on A Course in Miracles: https://marianne.com/365-days-of-a-course-in-miracles/

This is a different kind of podcast episode. Instead of interviewing a guest, in this episode I (Robbie Swale) share the content of four videos I have previously made about coaching, bringing much of my thinking and body of work around coaching together in one place. But it’s not just the videos - I listen back to each one (mostly I had never listened back before!) and pull out particularly important thoughts and ideas, and share the things that have changed or developed in my thinking since the videos were originally recorded.

In here is LOADS of insight that I’ve gleaned from many great coaches and teachers, and others who have influenced my work.

In particular, I talk about:

- Why I work with clients over a period of time not a number of sessions.

- How I structure and think about my first conversation with a potential client.

- Marketing for coaches: the importance of connecting, sharing yourself and doing great work.

- How my fees have evolved over my time as a coach (in pretty granular detail).

These are some of the most important things for coaches to think about, and is some of the most condensed thinking I have shared on the subjects. In and between the videos, I touch on loads of the ways I work as a coach, including: comparing the price of ‘per session’ with the price of a period of time; my rule for making networking events manageable; the importance of leadership as a coach; why it’s important to give people the chance to know you before they meet you; and how it’s vital to do the sums when it comes to your coaching business.

For information about my wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswalecoaching.com.

To watch the videos in their original form (and various other coaching videos), visit my YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5aalWAQqFp6yTk2jghSpeQ

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

Things and people I mentioned (that you might be interested in):

~5: Sam Chillcott – https://www.samchillcott.com/

~8: Joel Monk (http://joel-monk.com/) and the podcast episode where I interviewed him: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-6-joel-monk-conversations-at-the-cutting-edge-of-coaching

~27: Phil Bolton (http://www.phil-bolton.com/), The Coaching School (http://www.thecoachingschool.co.uk) and the podcast episode where I interviewed him: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-2-phil-bolton-from-forensic-accountant-to-the-go-to-career-coach-in-london-and-on-to-work-with-ceos-mds-and-founders

~27: Rich Litvin and The Prosperous Coach: https://richlitvin.com/the-prosperous-coach/

~28: Rich Litvin’s video – How To Coach Someone You Don’t Know: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoaM2PwzHRQ

~30: Jamie Smart: https://www.jamiesmart.com/

~31: Giovanna Capozza: https://giovannacapozza.com/

~35: Rich Litvin’s video, The Art of the Proposal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjwzfLIA8w0

~43: Rich Litvin’s blog - How I Create a Powerful End to a Coaching Engagement: https://richlitvin.com/powerful-end-coaching-agreement/

~63: My sister, Ro, and her website: http://l-r-o.com/

~66: My brother, Ewan and his article about healing our allergies to marketing: https://www.ewantownhead.com/how-to-heal-our-allergies-to-marketing/

~70: My article, Dancing with Resistance: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/dancing-resistance-lesson-from-my-first-year-coach-robbie-swale/

~71: My 12-minute articles, which you can browse here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robbieswale/detail/recent-activity/posts/

~81: The now-resting Coaching School: http://www.thecoachingschool.co.uk

~82: Mike Toller: http://www.michaeltollercoaching.co.uk/

~84: The 90 Day Money Game: https://richlitvin.com/the-90-day-money-game/

~90: The group coaching call I recorded, where you can watch me working with three coaches at once: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFBvAVfZrKQ

His determination and attitude took Barry Ennis from runner to leader of senior management teams and multimillion-pound projects in a television career that involved a BAFTA-winning show, seven series of Who Wants To Be A Millionnaire? and… Beyonce! But when, in a moment of struggle, he took himself through a self-coaching exercise, he realised that his work in television didn’t speak to the values and passions that were at his core. He set out to find something different, and knew he had found it when - part way through training as a coach - some transformational work with a fellow student lit a fire in him.

Since then, he has followed that fire to the sense of wonder he gets from the right learning, relationships which have enabled his business to thrive, and his new business, The Wake Up Method, providing organisations with a proven way to motivate, inspire, train and retain the next generation of managers and leaders.

In this episode, we talk about:

What he learnt from building his first business, The Guerilla Experience, (with business partner Teresa Klasener,) from their first event, to working in organisations, to what brought that company to an end.

How he created his first corporate coaching offer during a call with a potential client.

Why he says he runs a business, rather than works as a coach, and why he finds the term coaching unhelpful at times.

The dangers of social media and how he uses it.

Plus, Barry talks beautifully about his upbringing and where the stories that have supported his business have come from, including how the distinction between ‘I have a place’ and ‘Know your place’ has made all the difference for him, leaving him in power and not hopelessness.

For more information about Barry, visit: www.TheWakeUpMethod.com, @TheWakeUpMethod on instagram or ​https://www.linkedin.com/company/thewakeupmethod

For information about Robbie’s wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswalecoaching.com.

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):

~16: Barefoot Coaching - https://www.barefootcoaching.co.uk/

~16: Kim Morgan - https://www.barefootcoaching.co.uk/about-us/kim-morgan

~20: Transactional Analysis - https://www.itaaworld.org/

~31: Giles Barrow - https://gilesbarrow.com/

~44: Mariana Ipkendanz - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mariana-ipkendanz-acc-125a70143/

~48: International Coach Federation/ICF - https://www.coachfederation.org.uk/

~69: Teresa Klasener - https://www.linkedin.com/in/teresaklasener/

~78: BetterUp - http://www.betterup.com

~82: The Berne Institute - https://theberne.com/

~87: The podcast episode where I spoke to the guest, Joel Monk, about the neuroscience of goal setting was this one: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-6-joel-monk-conversations-at-the-cutting-edge-of-coaching In it, we refer back to this episode of the Coaches Rising Podcast with Richard Boyatzis: https://www.coachesrising.com/podcast/how-to-access-optimum-growth-states-in-coaching/

~95: NABS – https://nabs.org.uk/

~97: Kate Rees - https://www.katereescoaching.com/

~101: Fiverr - https://www.fiverr.com/

~103: Barry’s Brag Alert post on Linkedin - https://www.linkedin.com/posts/barry-ennis-coach_wakeup-coaching-coachofthemonth-activity-6630457599294783488-Rrly

~109: Michael Neill - https://www.michaelneill.org/

~116: Abraham Maslow - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Maslow

~119: Soil, Soul, Society by Satish Kumar

~120: Ken Wilber - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Wilber

Marianne Craig is a master coach and the co-founder of Firework Coaching Company, home of the renowned and proven Firework framework for helping people change career. From a young age, Marianne realised the value of questioning everything, but that only started to become her profession in the midst of what Marianne calls a fulfillment crisis. She was listening to BBC Woman’s Hour in 1999 when she heard a coach speaking. By the end of the programme she was already calling the helpline: she knew it was what she wanted to do for a living.

Since then, she has racked up thousands of hours of coaching, founding Firework in 2003, becoming an ICF accredited Master Coach in 2005 and forming many other collaborations including Mirus Coaching for Social Change, Mentor Coaches International and a new project providing pro bono coaching to Extinction Rebellion activists.

With 25 years' experience as a business owner, coach and consultant she works with people who are at a life or career crossroads. Her specialism is supporting clients to find meaningful and fulfilling work.

In this episode, we talk about:

- How, as a working class little girl on a council estate near Glasgow, she first learned about her sense of agency in the world.

- How she created the renowned Firework Career Coaching Framework, started Firework Coaching Company and later sold it.

- Why she has never got bored of her work with people changing careers.

- What she thinks makes a great website for a coach (as one of the first people to have a coaching website) and how to launch it.

- How she tried every kind of marketing in existence and what she learned from that experimentation (and what she recommends you do so you don’t have to experiment with everything).

Plus, starting from Marianne’s bugbears about the coaching industry, we get into a fascinating conversation about the morals and ethics of coaching, and ask questions like, is the end is near for ‘the client’s agenda’ and ‘where were the coaches when the banks went down’?

For more information about Marianne, visit: https://www.coachlifeandcareer.com/ or http://www.mentor-coach.com/

For information about Robbie’s wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswalecoaching.com.

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):

~4: James Bianco and the Coach’s Journey episode with James: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-5-james-bianco-beware-your-simple-stories-about-coaching-success

~5: Laura Berman Fortgang: https://laurabermanfortgang.com/

~10: Coach U: https://www.coachu.com/

~30 and ~37: Firework: https://www.fireworkcoaching.com/

~38: Kate Edmunds: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/kate-edmonds-5aa25516

~39: CTI: https://coactive.com/

~40: Careershifters: http://www.careershifters.org/

~40: My temping colleague, Amy, and her awesome vintage dress company, Clarence and Alabama: https://www.clarenceandalabama.co.uk/

~41: Richard Alderson: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/richardalderson

~54: Marianne’s ebook, So You Want To Become A Coach - A Guide to Training and Skills for Life and Business Coaching: http://www.mentor-coach.com/become_a_life_coach.htm

~55: The ICF (International Coaching Federation) and their levels of credential, ACC, PCC and MCC: https://www.coachfederation.org.uk/credentialing/credential_path

~56: Academy of Coaching Supervision: https://coachingsupervisionacademy.com/

~58: ICF International events: https://coachfederation.org/events/icf-converge-2019

~82: Sir John Whitmore and his book Coaching For Performance: https://www.performanceconsultants.com/coaching-for-performance-book

~82: Association for Coaching: https://www.associationforcoaching.com/

~90: Climate Change Coaches: https://www.climatechangecoaches.com/

~93: Mirus Coaching for Social Change and Alma Neville

~94: Robert Holden: https://www.robertholden.com/

~110: Exeter Street Hall, the new community centre where Marianne is a trustee: https://exeterstreethall.org/

These are strange times to be alive, and that includes being alive and working as a coach.

When I heard that Katie Harvey, who has racked up over 14,000 hours of coaching and 13 years of supporting other coaches, was putting together her thoughts on how to coach during a time like this, I invited her back on the podcast straight away.

In this episode, Katie and I speak about the various ways that our coaching and our practices have changed or been affected by the coronavirus outbreak, and give some advice and suggestions to other coaches for how to survive and even thrive amidst the uncertainty: as individuals, in our coaching practices, and as an industry.

In particular, we talk about:

- How, more than perhaps ever before, coaches have a shared context with their clients, and the implications of this for our work.

- How to manage the start of a coaching conversation, the client’s agenda and the need to address the greater context.

- How to deal with technological problems when coaching online.

- The implications for coaches as self-employed entrepreneurs, and in particular the importance of questioning our assumptions around what this will mean for our businesses.

And we finish with a conversation about the opportunity that the current situation presents for coaches individually, and for the coaching industry as a whole. As Katie says, ‘The opportunity for coaching here is absolutely huge: it’s up to every one of us to take the opportunity to help our profession grow in whatever way lights your fire.‘

For more information about Katie, email her at katie@katieharveycoaching.co.uk.

For information about Robbie’s wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswalecoaching.com.

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):

~6: The preview of my book, which I have shared in case it may help you or someone you know in these times of uncertainty: The Power To Choose Preview - https://www.robbieswalecoaching.com/writing/2020/3/23/why-am-i-sharing-parts-of-my-forthcoming-book-the-power-to-choose

~6: The latest articles in my blog: Things Get Broken by the Dark Times. But Things Get Made In Those Times, Too - https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/things-get-broken-dark-times-made-those-too-robbie-swale/; Now Is The Time To Focus On Stability And Order: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/now-time-focus-stability-order-robbie-swale/; and What Did You Do During the Coronavirus Pandemic: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/what-did-you-do-during-coronavirus-pandemic-robbie-swale/

~6: The offer of coaching from myself and some trusted colleagues: https://www.robbieswalecoaching.com/coaching-for-uncertain-times

~7: Katie’s document for coaches, which inspired this episode: Coaching In These Unprecedented Times: https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5d286f97132cd000011e67f4/t/5e834324602f5702ab67febb/1585660709398/KHC_Coaching_Unprecendented_Times.pdf

~15: Unlocking Leadership Mindtraps by Jennifer Garvey Berger - https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07NWWRXC5/

~46: Rich Litvin - http://www.richlitvin.com/

~48: BetterUp - https://www.betterup.com/

~51: My 12-Minute Articles - you can read the latest ones on my LinkedIn, here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robbieswale/detail/recent-activity/posts/ and read a little about the process here: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/power-commitment-robbie-swale/. The ones I have written about the coronavirus outbreak are linked to here: https://www.robbieswalecoaching.com.

~52: Mike Toller - http://www.michaeltollercoaching.co.uk/

~55: aim-you - https://www.aim-you.com/volunteers1

~58: The offer me and two colleagues made: Coaching for Uncertain Times - https://www.robbieswalecoaching.com/coaching-for-uncertain-times

~60: Kubler-Ross Change Curve - https://www.cleverism.com/understanding-kubler-ross-change-curve/

This is another episode of the podcast where I (Robbie Swale) share some of my thoughts. Like in episode 8, I’m going back to some content I previously created and sharing it again here as a podcast episode. As I listen back (sometimes for the first time), I also provideupdates, extra ideas and extra links as I go.

The content I (re)share in this episode is what I created when I sat down to think about this question: what have I learned about the most important parts, aspects, shifts or stages that coaches almost always go through if they are going to create a sustainable, successful coaching business, whatever that means for them?

So many of the ideas that have been most helpful for me in my journey are contained in this episode; in some ways these videos turned out to be a summary of what I had learned from the first three years of having transforming people’s lives as my work.

In particular, I talk about:

Why you need commitment if you are going to create a coaching business in line with your integrity (and why confidence is a con).

The power of the shift to embodying the belief that you can create your own coaching business and how to make that shift.

The many, many, many ways that doing your own work is fundamental to life as a coach, including what counts as doing work on yourself.

Within that there are so many little details and nuggets in here, including: why I think the Prosperous Coach has been such an important book for so many coaches; how we slip into feeling under threat in our coaching work and how to move back into a sense of trust; and why, confusingly, making a commitment frees you rather than trapping you. Oh, and I dictate two invitations that any coach can use to jump-start their coaching business when they need to. Enjoy!

For information about my wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswalecoaching.com.

To watch the videos in their original form (and various other coaching videos), visit my YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5aalWAQqFp6yTk2jghSpeQ

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

Things and people I mentioned (that you might be interested in):

~2: My brother, Ewan Townhead, whose ideas these videos were originally: https://www.ewantownhead.com/

~3: The One Thing by Gary Keller, The Four-Hour Work Week by Tim Ferriss, The War of Art by Steven Pressfield.

~4: The Coaching School Video with me talking really fast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhK4vS0nzk8

~10: Resistance and Steven Pressfield - here’s a piece about this concept and its impact on me: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/writing/dancing-with-resistance-a-lesson-from-my-first-year-as-a-coach

~11: The Three Gateways to a Powerful Coaching Engagement article: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/writing/the-three-gateways-to-a-powerful-coaching-engagement-getting-unstuck-growing-confidence-and-uncovering-possibility

~11: Rich Litvin: https://richlitvin.com/

~16:30: Nassim Nicholas Taleb: https://www.fooledbyrandomness.com/

~19: Holly Aston: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/holly-aston-4a361553

~22: Michael Neill: https://www.michaelneill.org/

~29: The War of Art by Steven Pressfield: https://stevenpressfield.com/

~30: Mike Toller: http://www.michaeltollercoaching.co.uk/

~32: Tim Ferriss and The Four=Hour Body: https://fourhourbody.com/

~36: My article, ‘Recommitting Is The Journey’ - https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/writing/recommitting-is-the-journey

~45: My article, ‘How I Became a Full Time Coach Less Than Two Years After Starting My Training’ - https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/writing/how-i-became-a-full-time-coach-less-than-two-years-after-starting-my-training

~47: The Prosperous Coach by Rich Litvin and Steve Chandler - https://richlitvin.com/the-prosperous-coach/

~48: Carolyn Freyer Jones: https://www.carolynfreyerjones.com/

~48: Coaches Rising: https://www.coachesrising.com/ (check out episode 6 of this podcast for an interview with Coaches Rising Co-Founder Joel Monk: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-6-joel-monk-conversations-at-the-cutting-edge-of-coaching)

~50: Diana Chapman from the Conscious Leadership Academy on the Coaches Rising Podcast where I heard her talk about trust and threat: https://www.coachesrising.com/podcast/stop-being-so-serious-playfulness-and-coaching/

~58: Robert Holden: https://www.robertholden.com/

~62: The15 Commitments of Conscious Leadership by Diana Chapman, Jim Dethmer and Kaley Klemp: https://www.amazon.co.uk/15-Commitments-Conscious-Leadership-Sustainable-ebook/dp/B00R3MHWUE

~75: Jamie Smart: https://www.jamiesmart.com/

~76: Jo Hunter and her company, 64 Million Artists: https://64millionartists.com/about/

~83: Joel Monk and the episode of this podcast where I interview Joel: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-6-joel-monk-conversations-at-the-cutting-edge-of-coaching

~84: The original 5-part Train Series of articles, in this order: https://linkedin.com/pulse/train-series-1-stories-robbie-swale/, https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/train-series-2-change-robbie-swale/, https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/train-series-3-time-alone-robbie-swale/, https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/train-series-4-creativity-robbie-swale/, https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/train-series-5-habits-robbie-swale/

~90: The Big Leap by Gay Hendricks

~92: My article about time management, where I speak about some of Gay Hendricks’ insights: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/15-ways-transform-your-relationship-time-get-more-done-robbie-swale/

~93: My article about the most important reasons to hire a coach, if you are a coach: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/writing/6-reasons-why-hiring-a-coach-is-the-most-important-thing-for-you-to-do-if-you-want-a-successful-coaching-business

~94: Jordan Hall on Rebel Wisdom: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_j3cCrpXERg

A couple of months ago, my friend and former client Adam Hulme asked me if we could catch up, as he was in the process of creating a new podcast. He wanted to ask me what I had learned from the first few months of The Coach’s Journey Podcast. I decided to record the conversation and release it as an episode, as I knew that Adam wouldn’t be the last person to ask how I made my decisions about creating a podcast.

So this episode is structured around the brilliant set of questions that Adam brought to me, about how I went about creating this podcast, what I have learned, what I would advise other people to do, and what I might do differently if I started again.

In particular, I talk about:

How I structure my interviews (and what I have done to try and make them as useful to listeners as possible).

Loads of the nitty gritty detail: RSS feeds, editing, hosting, gear/tech setup and more.

My three ‘must do’s if you are creating a podcast.

And you get to meet Adam, and great coach and dynamic entrepreneur, and hear about his new podcast (with co-host Kerry Hearsey), Two Coach Confidence.

Of course I’ve only made 13 podcast episodes to date, but I hope that at the very least what I have shared in this episode and via the links below will help some people shortcut the research they need to do and - even better - help people feel empowered to get out there and make something cool.

For information about my wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswalecoaching.com.

For more about Adam visit https://mycoachforlife.com/, and to listen to his podcast Two Coach Confidence (which he hosts along with Kerry Hearsey), visit: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1071241

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

Things and people I mentioned (that you might be interested in):

~4: The Joe Rogan Experience: http://podcasts.joerogan.net/

~5: The Jordan B Peterson Podcast: https://www.jordanbpeterson.com/podcast/

~6: Squarespace and a discount code: https://www.squarespace.com/coupons

~9: Mums In Business Association: https://www.mumsinbusinessassociation.com/

~9: Kerry Hearsey from Two Coach Confidence: https://kerryhearsey.com/

~14: The Tim Ferriss Show: http://tim.blog/podcast

~26: Tim Ferris’s blog about building a podcast: https://tim.blog/2016/04/11/tim-ferriss-podcast-business/

~26: Tim Ferris’s page of podcast gear: https://tim.blog/podcast-gear/

~26: The video I mentioned (made by Pat Flynn) about how to edit a podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcUBZHOljzU

~27: The gear I bought: Audio Technica ATR2100-USB Cardioid Dynamic USB/XLR Microphone (not on Amazon.co.uk right now); mic covers (apparently help with sound): https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B019OO4IY6/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1; some wired headphones to plug into my mic (so you can hear yourself - I wanted to get some special ones for this): https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07Q724CXS/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1. Plus Audacity https://www.audacityteam.org/, Zoom (free for one-on-one conversations, including recording): https://zoom.us/ and Auphonic (https://auphonic.com/).

~28: Joel Monk, the podcast episode where I spoke to him: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-6-joel-monk-conversations-at-the-cutting-edge-of-coaching. The mic he uses for his podcast is a Yeti Blue (which looks like it’s gone up in price since last time I checked! https://www.amazon.co.uk/Blue-Recording-Streaming-Condenser-Adjustable/dp/B00N1YPXW2/).

~36: Article I used about which podcast platforms to upload your podcast to: https://www.thepodcasthost.com/promotion/best-podcast-directories-where-to-list/

~38: My sister’s podcast, Thank You For The Pain I Needed It For My Art: https://podcast.app/tyfta-lro-the-podcast-p803129/. She used Anchor.FM to host it: https://anchor.fm/

~38: Auphonic: https://auphonic.com/

~40: My ‘information for guests’ document.

~43: My 12-minute blog: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robbieswale/detail/recent-activity/posts/

~65: The episode of the podcast with Katie Harvey about coaching curing coronavirus: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/coaching-during-coronavirus-katie-harvey

Toku McCree is a former Zen Monk and a renowned Executive Coach. His life changed after meeting a man at a party who had a calmness about him that Toku had never seen before. From there he fell in love with mediation, spent two and a half years in a monastery, and went on to launch a six-figure coaching practice.

Toku had over 30 jobs before he was 30 - from running a sumo chicken boxing ring to tuning guitars for rock bands, being a pre-school teacher and even working on a political campaign. But it took becoming a monk for him to realise that the sense of purpose and meaning he’d been avoiding through most of his twenties was in fact what he needed to turn his life towards.

His writing and thoughts have been featured in The Huffington Post, Zen Habits, TEDx, The Change Blog, The Good Men Project, and Tiny Buddha. He launched Samurai Coaching Dojo to support coaches. And, he loves the practice of selling, so much so that his upcoming book, The Art of Honorable Sales, is a love letter to the process.

In this episode, we talk about:

Klaus and the Buddha - the characters that show up in his coaching and the roles they play.

The practice of raising your rates - why there is a particular time as a coach to set a rate and stick to it.

Sales as a spiritual practice - how to stop holding your nose through the sales conversation and the false choice between selling skilfully and living with honour.

The magic questions to ask at the end of the enrolment process - how to find the tension that leads to commitment.

Plus, we walk through an 'honourable' sales process and there's an exclusive offer to read the Beta version of Toku’s book before it comes out.

For more information about Toku, visit: www.unexecutive.com.

For information about Robbie’s wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswalecoaching.com.

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

Things and people we mentioned that you might be interested in:

~12: Rich Litvin Intensives: https://richlitvin.com/intensive-rli/

~12: Toku’s Coaches Rising Podcast: https://www.coachesrising.com/podcast/transformative-enrolment-moving-beyond-yes-and-no/

~30: The Prosperous Coach by Rich Litvin and Steve Chandler: https://theprosperouscoach.com/praise/

~30: Jason Goldberg: http://www.thejasongoldberg.com/

~30: Steve Chandler: https://www.stevechandler.com/

~35: Hans Philips: https://www.ontoco.com/

~39: Toku’s Coaching Dojo: https://samuraicoachingdojo.com/

~57: Toku’s Coaching Dojo: https://samuraicoachingdojo.com/

~1.59: Toku’s No Woman Vision Quest: https://www.kendracunov.com/ - https://www.kendracunov.com/no-man-diet/, http://unexecutive.com/no-woman-vision-quest/

~2.00: A beta version of Toku’s book: http://unexecutive.com/sell-with-honor

~2.01: Toku’s Coaching Mastermind: https://unexecutive.lpages.co/embodied-coach

~2.03: Ben Allen: https://www.tonicbooks.online

~2:03: Matt Thieleman: https://medium.com/@thieleman1

~2.03: Partnership work with Matt Thieleman and Atlas: https://www.linkedin.com/company/project-atlasq/

~2:04: Christina Salerno: https://www.s-l.xyz/

For Marcia Reynolds, coaching evolved as a highly effective learning tool, discovered through her work training leaders in the corporate world. She is now a world-renowned expert on coaching ranked #5 on Global Gurus’ list of coaching thought-leaders, has delivered programs and coached leaders in 41 countries, and has written four coaching books.

She also turned 20 in jail and credits her transformation, at least in part, to the women she did time with. From the rabbit hole of drug abuse to achieving multiple master’s degrees, her first ‘tough coach’ was her cellmate who taught her to get out there and make a difference in the world.

Marcia witnessed the rise in coaching ‘as a thing’ first hand. She trained as a coach in the mid-90s and was one of the first assessors for the International Coaching Federation and for training school, Coach U. She was also a founding member of the ICF where she went on to be president for over two years. In this episode, we find out Marcia offers so many insights from her years of experience that coaches at all levels with find things to take and use in their own practice.

In particular, we talk about:

Why now is the time to shut up and listen.

Why coaching is the best learning technology we have.

Why mastery is the deepening of presence not the perfection of skills and the importance of receiving as opposed to listening in great coaching.

What to do if a client says they want a plan (and why making the plan with them is not always the most powerful thing to do).

And, as Marcia launches her fourth book on coaching Coach the Person, Not the Problem, we find out what compelled her to write another book about coaching.

Plus, some myth-busting about the things we think we can’t do in coaching and a story that features a snake and a roadrunner… That’s right, a snake and a roadrunner!

For those who want to learn more about Marcia’s forthcoming Breakthrough Coaching Training, register for the free 90-minute masterclass here: https://coach.wbecs.com/Marcia-Reynolds/a182301

For more information about Marcia, visit: www.covisioning.com or find her on Twitter: www.twitter.com/MarciaReynolds or LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/marciareynolds.

For more information about Marcia’s recent book, visit www.coachtheperson.com.

For information about Robbie’s wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswalecoaching.com.

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):

~5: Time to Think by Nancy Kline: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Time-Think-Listening-Ignite-Human/dp/0706377451

~5: Effective Modern Coaching by Myles Downey: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Effective-Modern-Coaching-Myles-Downey/dp/190779476X

~9: The International Coach Federation (ICF): https://coachfederation.org/

~13: Coach U Training School: https://www.coachu.com/

~13: CTI: https://coactive.com/

~14: Fran Fisher: https://www.franfishercoach.com/

~20: Marcia’s Memoir, Unexpected Angels: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Unexpected-Angels-Month-Journey-Light-ebook/dp/B0047GN9M4

~ 21: Marcia’s TED Talks: https://www.ted.com/talks/dr_marcia_reynolds_dr_marcia_reynolds_how_to_handle_precocious_women_jan_2018

~25: Marcia’s most recent book: https://coachtheperson.com

~35: The Association of Coach Training Organisations (ACTO): https://actoonline.org/

~38: Harriett Simon Salinger: http://www.hssalinger.com/

~38: Julius Ordonez: https://www.linkedin.com/in/julius-ordonez-mcc-7948a911/

~39: WBECs coaching demonstration: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2z_mvuEXPQ

~43: The Coaching Habit by Michael Bungay Stanier: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Coaching-Habit-Less-Change-Forever/dp/0978440749

~46: Thinking, Fast and Slow by Daniel Kahnemann: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Thinking-Fast-Slow-Daniel-Kahneman/dp/0141033576

~46: Michael Gazzaniga: https://people.psych.ucsb.edu/gazzaniga/michael/

~47: John Dewey: https://books.google.co.uk/books/about/How_We_Think.html?id=6-fof53Kq00C&redir_esc=y

~48: Deb Barnard, Relational Dynamics 1st: https://relationaldynamics1st.co.uk/meet-the-team/

~48: Byron Katie: https://thework.com/

~49: Gretchen Rubin: https://gretchenrubin.com/

~50: Marcia’s blog post referencing Straight Talk, Real Talk and Blunt Talk: https://covisioning.com/can-you-just-shut-up/

~1.14: Shari Geller: https://www.sharigeller.ca/

~ 1.16: Marcia’s three minute Goal Tending video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9sH3DrcCgE

~1.22: Einstein quote: ‘If I had an hour to solve a problem and my life depended on the solution, I would spend the first 55 minutes determining the proper question to ask.’

~1.33: Marcia’s Books: https://covisioning.com/books/

Jamie Smart, Sunday Times best-selling author, speaker, and coach, got to where he is today through a series of moments of profound realisation and insight. The first of which was a calling to public speaking even though he was terrified of it at the time.

In 2003, Jamie started the company Salad, and quickly grew a tribe of over 80,000 people who devoured his articles and personal development products. Salad soon became one of the world’s leading NLP product businesses and, despite its success, Jamie once again found himself looking for something more. In 2008, a series of significant insights brought him to a new paradigm, the principles of CLARITY®. He stopped teaching NLP, sold Salad, and never looked back.

Today, Jamie has five books to his name. He works with individuals and businesses helping them create the results that matter to them as well as running professional development workshops. He has appeared on Sky TV, the BBC, and in numerous publications including The Daily Telegraph.

In this episode, we talk about:

The two most valuable things that anyone can learn - the truth of how our experience is created and who we really are.

Why he recommends working with a package model over charging by the hour - how to avoid losing your business over night.

The breakthroughs in psychology that he believes are as significant as the discovery of germs were to medicine.

The five questions to ask yourself and your client at the beginning of a new engagement.

Plus, we find out about childbed fever in the 1800s and what we can learn from four-year-olds.

For more information about Jamie, visit: www.jamiesmart.com

For information about Robbie’s wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswalecoaching.com.

For more information the new training from Marcia Reynolds (the guest in Episode #14), which Robbie mentioned in the introduction, visit https://coach.wbecs.com/Marcia-Reynolds/a182301

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):

~5: Marcia Reynolds’ Keys to Breakthrough Coaching Masterclass: https://coach.wbecs.com/Marcia-Reynolds/a182301

~11: Regent’s University: https://www.regents.ac.uk/

~23: Jamie Smart’s books: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Jamie-Smart/e/B00N7HMHL8?ref_=dbs_p_pbk_r00_abau_000000

~23: Jamie’s fifth book, The Profitable Coaches Scorecard: https://www.amazon.com/Profitable-Coaches-Scorecard-Jamie-Smart/dp/0995613419#:~:text=In%20Jamie%20Smart's%20book%2C%20The,life%20and%20in%20the%20world.

~24: The CLARITY® certification training module: https://www.jamiesmart.com/clarity-coach-training/

~36: Salad NLP: http://saladltd.co.uk/

~37: Tim Ferriss’s book The 4-hour Work Week: https://www.amazon.co.uk/4-Hour-Work-Week-Escape-Anywhere/dp/0091929113

~38: Michael Neill: https://www.michaelneill.org/

~40: Missing Link by Sydney Banks: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Missing-Link-Reflections-Philosophy-Spirit/dp/1772130176#:~:text=The%20Missing%20Link%20is%20the,read%20it%20to%20enjoy%20it.

~44: George Carlin: https://georgecarlin.com/

~46: Sydney Banks: http://sydbanks.com/

~ 47: The Clarity Life Community Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/claritylifecommunity/

~51: Christina Mitchell: https://www.christinamitchell.co.uk/

~1.10: The Chimp Paradox by Dr Steve Peters: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Chimp-Paradox-Management-Programme-Confidence/dp/009193558X

~1.17: ClarityPro: https://www.clarityacademy.co/ClarityProClosed

~1.45: Ignaz Semmelweis: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignaz_Semmelweis

~1.45: Germ Theory: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germ_theory_of_disease

~1.45: Gregory Bateson: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregory_Bateson

~1.47: Hermann von Helmholtz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermann_von_Helmholtz

~1.48: Anil Seth’s Ted Talk: Your Brain Hallucinates Your Conscious Reality: https://www.ted.com/talks/anil_seth_your_brain_hallucinates_your_conscious_reality?language=en#t-991

~2.06: Jamie’s book, Results: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Results-Think-Less-Achieve-More/dp/0857087096

~2.06: Jamie’s book, The Little Book of Results: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Little-Book-Results-Quick-Achieving/dp/0857087800

~2.07: The Thriving Coaches Blueprint: https://www.clarityacademy.co/tcbclosed

~2.07: The Career Transition Blueprint: https://www.clarityacademy.co/ctbclosed

~2.10: The Clarity Life Community Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/claritylifecommunity/

~2.10: The Thriving Coaches Podcast: https://www.jamiesmart.com/tcp/

~2.10: Get CLARITY® with Jamie Smart Podcast: https://www.jamiesmart.com/claritynow/

~2.10: The CLARITY® Certification Training: https://www.jamiesmart.com/clarity-coach-training/

Cathy is a former international economist and policy adviser turned three principles coach. For over twenty years she was an advisor to governments and international organisations around the world, including seven years as a development economist in Southern Africa.

In her mid-40s, she left a job she loved for reasons she cannot describe. Having previously dipped into the teachings of Michael Neill, it took a challenge from a mastermind partner to prompt her to take another look at coaching. She went on to train in Micheal Neill’s Supercoach Academy and today works with clients in leadership roles and in the arena of social change.

In this episode, we talk about:

Why we lose our way when we talk about politics.

The joy of making it up. How she structures her coaching packages and the great freedom of making it up as you go along.

Listening for signals. And, the paradoxical nature of it. How determining what to pay attention to and what to ignore really comes back to the question of ‘Am I being my higher self?’.

The things we get too attached to: our lived experience, the personal nature of creation and worshipping the god of intellect.

Plus, the age-old debate about which way the forks go in the dishwasher - when it matters and when it really doesn’t. And, the simplicity at the heart of parenting how its really just about pouring love on your child..

For more information about Cathy, visit: www.cathypresland.com

For information about Robbie’s wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswalecoaching.com.

For more information on the new training from Marcia Reynolds (the guest in Episode #14), which Robbie mentioned in the introduction, visit https://coach.wbecs.com/Marcia-Reynolds/a182301

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

Things we talked about that you might find interesting:

~18: Dave Snowden’s Cynefin Framework: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynefin_framework

~32: Michael Neill: https://www.michaelneill.org/

~42: Michael Neill Training programmes: https://www.michaelneill.org/sci/

~44: Syd Banks: http://sydbanks.com/

~45: The Three Principles: https://3pgc.org/

~1.05: Jonathan Haidt: https://jonathanhaidt.com/

~1.05: Jonathan Haidt’s The Righteous Mind: Why Good People are Divided by Politics and Religion: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Righteous-Mind-Divided-Politics-Religion/dp/0141039167

~1.05: Jonathan Haidt’s The Coddling of the American Mind: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Coddling-American-Mind-Intentions-Generation/dp/0141986301/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=the+coddling+of+the+american+mind&qid=1601048128&s=books&sr=1-1

~1.06: Jonathan Haidt Quote: https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/645384-morality-binds-and-blinds-it-binds-us-into-ideological-teams

~1.09: Jordan Hall: https://www.youtube.com/c/JordanGreenhall/featured

~1.26: Rich Litvin: https://richlitvin.com/

~1.45: Robert Holden quote: https://tendingjoy.com/blogs/tending-joy/god-spoke-today-in-flowers

~1.52: The War of Art by Steven Pressfield: https://www.amazon.co.uk/War-Art-Through-Creative-Battles/dp/1936891026

~1.52: Robert Holden: https://www.robertholden.com/

~1.54: Celtic Goddess/Sovereignty article: http://dangerouswomenproject.org/2016/11/15/the-dangerous-women-of-irish-;mythology/

~2.01: The Inside-Out Revolution by Michael Neill: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Inside-Out-Revolution-Thing-Change-Forever/dp/1781800790

~2.01: The Space Within by Michael Neill: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Space-Within-Finding-Your-Back/dp/1781806489/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=michael+neill&qid=1600694112&s=books&sr=1-4

~2.01: Michael Neill’s Supercoach Academy: http://www.supercoachacademy.com/

~2.02: The Three Principles YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaY2LdDLITzIlszwA8ubVxg

Sat atop a Welsh mountain in 2007 in a moment of depression and despair, Chris Joseph had the first in a series of instances of clarity that would eventually lead him to coaching. On the brink of a meltdown, he knew his Ph.D. in Computational Mechanics was no longer serving him.

Buddhism, yoga and mediation became the elixir for him and soon he found he couldn't sleep with excitement at the discoveries he was making. His life changed when he trained to become a mindfulness teacher with Breathworks, and Chris went on to complete his Ph.D. and launch his first coaching practice. But it wasn't a success and in the end he gave it up.

His extraordinary journey includes a multitude of highs and lows, from making £10,000 a month in passive income to losing it all to a fraudulent trader. Now he’s back coaching and headed for a seven-figure year with his highly successful practice.

In this episode, we talk about:

Where his practice went wrong the first time round.

Why the inner work is so important - understanding that you can only take people as far as you can go yourself.

Why a true insight always comes packaged with an action - an ‘outsight’ or an ‘outer action’.

How to invite an individual to coaching - how to make it feel like a gift to the individual and not a request for yourself.

Alongside the practical we get into some big topics: death, impermanence, the importance of play and the effects of all these on our lives. And it is a total pleasure to be in a space with Chris' beautiful open-heartedness.

For more information about Chris, visit www.christopherjoseph.co.uk, find him on LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/drchrisjoseph/ or on Facebook: www.facebook.com/chrisjoseph.uk/

For information about Robbie’s wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswalecoaching.com.

Music by My Good Man William listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community

Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):

~8: Rich Waterman: https://www.richwaterman.com/ 

~10: The Happiness Hypothesis by Jonathan Haidt: https://www.happinesshypothesis.com/

~12: Michael Neill: https://www.michaelneill.org/

~12: Dick Bettinger: http://3principlesmentoring.com/index.html 

~12: Sydney Banks: https://sydbanks.com/

~14: Breathworks: https://www.breathworks-mindfulness.org.uk/

~20: Unleash the Power Within with Tony Robbins: https://www.tonyrobbins.com/events/unleash-the-power-within/ 

~25: Unleash the Power Within with Tony Robbins: https://www.tonyrobbins.com/events/unleash-the-power-within/

~26: The Coaching Academy: https://www.the-coaching-academy.com

~26: Richard Bandler: https://richardbandler.com

~26: John LaValle: https://www.nlplifetraining.com/trainers/john-lavalle

~26: The Prosperous Coach by Steve Chandler and Rich Litvin: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Prosperous-Coach-Increase-Income-Clients/dp/1600250300 

~26: Breathworks: https://www.breathworks-mindfulness.org.uk/

~27: Simon Coulson: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Prosperous-Coach-Increase-Income-Clients/dp/1600250300

~27: Peter Thompson: https://peterthomson.com/ 

~27: Michael Neill: https://www.michaelneill.org/ 

~27: Project Kairos with Rich Litvin: https://richlitvin.com/kairos/

~30: Steve Hardison video: https://youtu.be/0Tine-9dz-Y

~32: Rich Waterman: https://www.richwaterman.com/ 

~33: Three Principles: https://threeprinciplesfoundation.org/ 

~33: Eckhart Tolle: https://eckharttolle.com/ 

~33: Bryon Katie: https://thework.com/ 

~33: The Coaching Academy: https://www.the-coaching-academy.com

~33: Tony Robbins: https://www.tonyrobbins.com/ 

~37: Crazy Good by Steve Chandler: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/1600250343/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_JMAKFbP0PYJ7E 

~43: The War of Art by Steven Pressfield and Shawn Coyne: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/1936891026/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_xlBKFbG7XW11B

~50: Loom: https://www.loom.com

~1.11: Cardiff University: https://www.cardiff.ac.uk 

~1.29: Wealth Warrior by Steve Chandler: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/1600250408/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_EFCKFbY9VGH7M

~1.29: Time Warrior by Steve Chandler: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/1600250378/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_kICKFbB90WCJN

~1.29: The Hero’s Journey by Joseph Campbell: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/1608681890/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_8RCKFbEEPT36Y

~1.31: The Meaning Revolution by Fred Kofman : https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/1524760730/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_BsSKFbKHQ773N

~1.45: Chris’s contact details: email address: chris@christopherjoseph.co.uk, LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drchrisjoseph/, Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/chrisjoseph.uk/

~1.50: Steve Hardison: https://theultimatecoach.com/ 

Well, this is fun. Here’s another episode featuring me, Robbie Swale. No guests this time, and no content from the past, either: this all new and includes some exciting announcements, as well as insights and stories I haven’t shared before from my experience of creating new ways of working in my coaching business.

In particular, I talk about:

The lessons I’ve learned from the three group coaching programmes I’ve launched: how do we start a group coaching programme? How do we sell one to people?

The four criteria I use when deciding whether to create a new way of working in my business.

And, most excitingly, I launch the new Coach’s Journey Community, a new way to work with me, starting from just £10 a month.

That community is wrapped up along with the new opportunity to support the Coach’s Journey financially. If you value this work that I’m doing and want to make it easier for me to continue it, and give it the potential to grow faster and further, you might want to consider becoming a Supporter. But don’t worry, the podcast will always be free and there’s no presure at all from me to support the podcast financially.

That’s only part of the episode, though - creating the Coach’s Journey Community and a new one-on-one engagement that I’m running with several clients this autumn made me really think about how and when I create new ways of working with clients. In this episode, I’ve tried to really share how I think about creating new ways of working, including why I’m excited about this one, and all kinds of things that might be valuable to you on your journey as a coach. If there’s anything I didn’t cover or anything you want to ask, let me know and maybe I’ll do a follow-up episode answering questions!

For information about my wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswalecoaching.com.

To read more about supporting The Coach’s Journey, or to become a Supporter or a Community Member, visit https://www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney.

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

Things and people I mentioned (that you might be interested in):

~5: My article, ‘Jordan Peterson Is Not Evil and Why That Matters’ - https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/jordan-peterson-evil-why-matters-robbie-swale/

~10: My article, ‘How I Became A Full Time Coach Less Than Two Years After Finishing My Training’ on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/how-i-became-full-time-coach-less-than-two-years-after-robbie-swale

~10: My 200th LinkedIn Article: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/lessons-from-200-linkedin-articles-out-robbie-swale/

~13: Phil Bolton and on the podcast: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-2-phil-bolton-from-forensic-accountant-to-the-go-to-career-coach-in-london-and-on-to-work-with-ceos-mds-and-founders

~13: Mike Toller: https://www.michaeltollercoaching.co.uk/

~13: Vegard Olsen: https://coachingpartner.net/cp/en/vegard-olsen-2/

~14: Joel Monk on the podcast: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-6-joel-monk-conversations-at-the-cutting-edge-of-coaching & The Big Leap by Gay Hendricks: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Big-Leap-Conquer-Hidden-Level/dp/0061735361

~16: Rich Litvin and The Prosperous Coach: https://richlitvin.com/the-prosperous-coach/

~16: My article, 6 Reasons Why Hiring A Coach Is The Most Important Thing For You To Do If You Want A Successful Coaching Business: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/writing/6-reasons-why-hiring-a-coach-is-the-most-important-thing-for-you-to-do-if-you-want-a-successful-coaching-business

~20: Minor Arias on the podcast: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-3-minor-arias-living-by-design-glz56

~22: Warren Buffet’s 25 things game - see Number 2, here: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/15-ways-transform-your-relationship-time-get-more-done-robbie-swale/

~26: Kristen Kosinski on the podcast: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-7-kristen-kosinski-power-of-being-truly-seen-with-all-your-messiness

~33: My article, The Pioneering Women of Our Age on my website: https://www.robbieswalecoaching.com/writing/2018/9/10/the-pioneering-women-of-our-age and on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/pioneering-women-our-age-robbie-swale/

~35: Katie Harvey on the podcast: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-1-katie-harvey-14000-hours-of-coaching-being-part-of-the-uk-coaching-vanguard-and-being-a-generalist-coach

~36: The Genius Accelerator Group Coaching Programme: https://www.robbieswalecoaching.com/the-genius-accelerator

~44: Jordan Hall: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMzT-mdCqoyEv_-YZVtE7MQ and more about the Zone of Genius and Hall’s influence on my thinking about that in the introduction to The Power To Choose: https://www.robbieswalecoaching.com/writing/2019/12/30/the-power-to-choose-preview

~55: My brother. Ewan Townhead: https://www.ewantownhead.com/ and Fred Kofman being interviewed by Ewan and his friends back in 2011: http://www.wakinguptheworkplace.com/fred-kofman/

~58: Jamie Smart on the podcast: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast

~58: This Coaching Life Podcast:

~58: Toku McCree on the podcast: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-15-toku-mccree-sales-with-honour-and-love-on-the-end-of-a-sword

~60: This Is Marketing by Seth Godin: https://www.amazon.co.uk/This-Marketing-Cant-Until-Learn/dp/0241370140 and The Marketing Seminar: https://akimbo.com/themarketingseminar

And, of course, support The Coach’s Journey by clicking Support at the top right of this page, or visiting https://www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney, or join the community by clicking on the Community page in the menu at the top or, again, visiting: https://www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney

Giovanna Capozza is the co-founder of Blue Hive Health and a Master Life Coach, Spiritual Teacher, Mind/Body Expert and Podcast Host. She dedicated most of her twenties to exploring what makes us sick and what helps us heal, and as part of this she grew a thriving alternative medicine practice. But in 2012, suffering from caregivers fatigue, she left her practice behind and found herself on an extended trip in Mexico reassessing her life direction.

From there she trained to be a coach and used what she had learned from her alternative medicine practice to build a thriving coaching business. Alongside this, she went on to work on the teams of two industry-leading coaches, including The Prosperous Coach co-author Rich Litvin, and has a unique perspective on the world of coaching. More recently, her own health crisis has brought her back to the world of health care. In this episode, Giovanna talks candidly about her relationship with the coaching world and realisation that coaching alone was not the complete picture for her. 

Giovanna’s journey includes the launch a podcast, a memoir, and a talk that involved sharing the details of a previous abusive relationship with a room full of hundreds of people. Her interests have evolved from sickness, to relationships, to trauma and anxiety. Before Covid struck, Giovanna was on the brink of opening a new wellness centre in Toronto. She has since moved her venture online and the culmination of this work can be found at www.bluehivehealth.com. Her new wellness private practice is at www.wellwoman.ca.

In this episode, we talk about:

The trap of chasing high-ticket clients - why it’s okay to drop your prices and the pitfalls of measuring success by income.

Her guide to coaching yourself through situations that don't feel right, including when your coaching business is what doesn’t feel right.

Understanding that being a coach is being a business person.

Coming home to yourself - the realisation that looking for more also meant looking back.

Plus, we touch on the rarely discussed parts of the coaching world that feel... well... a bit icky.

For more information about Giovanna, visit: www.giovannacapozza.com and www.wellwoman.ca

For more information about Giovanna’s new wellness centre in Toronto: www.bluehivehealth.com

Listen to Giovanna’s talk here: https://youtu.be/zmuNYSh-KBc

For information about Robbie’s wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswalecoaching.com.

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community

Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):

~12: Gay and Katie Hendricks: https://hendricks.com/

~12: Giovanna’s Podcast with the Hendricks’: https://youtu.be/8rf3gibbYy8

~12: Arielle Ford: https://www.arielleford.com

~13: The Big Leap by Gay Hendricks: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/0061735361/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_nVfLFb93CP6KX

~15: Tony Robbins: https://www.tonyrobbins.com/ 

~18: Enneagram Types: https://www.enneagraminstitute.com/

~18: ICF Certifications: https://coachfederation.org/icf-credential 

~22: The Prosperous Coach by Steve Chandler and Rich Litvin: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Prosperous-Coach-Increase-Income-Clients/dp/1600250300

~22: Steve Chandler: https://www.stevechandler.com/

~22: Rich Litvin: https://richlitvin.com/

~25: Giovanna’s Podcast She Rises: https://giovannacapozza.com/podcast/

~26: Giovanna’s Book Lovesick https://giovannacapozza.com/lovesick-book/

~30: Blue Hive Health: www.bluehivehealth.com 

~47: Giovanna’s Book Lovesick https://giovannacapozza.com/lovesick-book/

~51: Giovanna’s speech: https://youtu.be/zmuNYSh-KBc

~58: Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow%27s_hierarchy_of_needs 

With over two decades of coaching to her name, Kala Flynn’s journey began in the early 90s long before the more recent rise of coaching. She trained in counselling and later coaching, NLP, and psychometric assessment tools and has since gone on to become a highly sought-after coach, author, mentor and speaker.

Kala was recruited to participate in Ashridge Business School’s first coaching masters course where she completed the five-year course in just two years. The course was a life-changer for her, opening her eyes to all there was to learn, and she knew she had found the vocation that makes her heart sing. Meanwhile, events in her personal life were challenging and a period of illness and recovery led her to compile much of the knowledge she had gathered over the years into a book - The Power of Human Energy. The book became a hit with 5-star reviews pouring in on Amazon, and today Kala’s programmes, sessions and masterclasses provide an introduction to these ideas and how they may be fruitfully applied within all sorts of settings.  Kala is currently working on her next book provisionally titled The Power of Human Connection. 

In this episode, we talk about:

Diving under the bonnet - the realisation that it's okay to challenge people and coaching isn’t about being nice.

Her journey through the publishing world - traditional publishing vs self-publishing, and where her book took her.

The ins and outs of team coaching - the importance of having fun and managing the energy of the session.

Her personal struggles - how adversity gave her strength and insight, taking her listening and inquiry into deeper places.

Plus, we discuss raising children alone and the joy of always being curious.

For more information about Kala, visit: www.inspirology.co.uk

For information about Robbie’s wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswalecoaching.com.

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community

Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):

~1: Robert Holden: https://www.robertholden.com/

~29: Relate: https://www.relate.org.uk/ 

~31: Transactional Analysis: http://www.ericberne.com/transactional-analysis/

~34: Saville and Holdsworth: https://www.shl.com/ 

~40: NLP: https://www.nlp.com/what-is-nlp/

~42: Ashridge Business School: https://www.hult.edu/en/executive-education/ 

~45: Eve Poole: http://evepoole.com/

~49: Bill Critchley: http://www.billcritchleyconsulting.com/coach-consultant-executive-london

~ 49: Charlotte Sills: https://www.metanoia.ac.uk/about/our-staff/faculty-1-psychotherapy-counselling/professor-charlotte-sills/

~1.03: Cambridge University Summer Programme: https://www.ice.cam.ac.uk/courses/international-summer-programmes

~1.06: Kala’s Book The Power of Human Energy: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Power-Human-Energy-Unlock-Control/dp/1999645588

~1.13: Waking Up The Workplace: http://wakinguptheworkplace.com/

~1.13: Tony Schwartz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Schwartz_(author)

~1.15: The Biology of Belief by Bruce H. Lipton: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Biology-Belief-Unleashing-Consciousness-Miracles/dp/1848503350

~1.20: Let’s Get Digital: David Gaughran: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/1983680354/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i5

~1.22: Nielsen: https://nielsenbook.co.uk/

~1.22: The British Library: https://www.bl.uk/

~1.32: Robert Holden: https://www.robertholden.com/

Described as "a breath of fresh air in the coaching industry", Allegra Stein is a self-styled coaching misfit.

With a background in wildlife biology and a career that included two years as a fishing conservationist in Bulgaria, Allegra's is a unique and captivating journey into coaching. Her coaching community, Misfit To Maverick, challenges what she calls "The Coaching Industrial Complex" and offers an alternative path to success that is built around authenticity and self-knowledge.

She draws on her background as an educator and ecologist to illuminate the idea of a coaching niche as a supportive, nourishing environment, and a habitat in which individuals can flourish. As she says: “Who you are is as much a part of your niche as who you want to help and how you do your work.”

In this episode, we talk about:

The tiny practices that make up the big picture of ‘create a paying client’.

How the language of coaching often holds us back.

Focusing on your strengths as a coach instead of getting bogged down in building a business.

Why there is no ideal combination of strengths to be an effective coach.

Plus Allegra tells us about the many different things she has done to grow her business - from writing, to running free workshops, to a ‘coach-and-dine’ event - and we speak frankly about the financial success of our coaching businesses.

For more information about Allegra, visit: www.allegrastein.com
Watch Allegra's message to new coaches here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFpOUFWhUAU

For information about Robbie’s wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswalecoaching.com.
Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community

Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):

~6: Martha Beck https://marthabeck.com/

~6: Brooke Castillo and The Life Coach School https://thelifecoachschool.com/

~10: B-School https://marieforleobschool.com/

~10: Robbie’s podcast with Minor Arias https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-3-minor-arias-living-by-design-glz56

~28: The Prosperous Coach by Steve Chandler and Rich Litvin https://richlitvin.com/the-prosperous-coach/

~28: Steve Chandler https://www.stevechandler.com/

~30: The CliftonStrengths Online Talent Assesment https://www.gallup.com/cliftonstrengths/en/252137/home.aspx

~35: Toku McCree's Coaching Dojo https://samuraicoachingdojo.com/

~45: Seth Godin https://seths.blog/

~45: Tad Hargrave https://marketingforhippies.com/

~53: John Morgan https://jpmorganjr.com/

~1.06: Kerri Twigg https://www.career-stories.com/about/

~1.06: YouMap https://www.myyoumap.com/

~1.14: Three Principles https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Principles_(self-help)

~1.18: Kristin A. Sherry https://kristinsherry.info/about/

~1.26: The Niching Compass https://allegrastein.com/niching-compass

~1.40: Robert Kegan https://www.gse.harvard.edu/faculty/robert-kegan

~1.58: The Niching Compass Podcast https://allegrastein.com/podcast

Daphna Horowitz gets bored easily. And it is boredom – or rather, the rejection of it – that has taken her to the top of Mount Kilimanjaro, helped her build a global business, and turned her into an eminent coach of CEOs and future leaders.

Inspired by her former career as an actuary and her thrill-seeking instincts, Daphna blends an analytical approach to coaching with a desire to connect authentically and help her clients find their ‘why’.

The unique way in which she provides help to high achievers – who often struggle to ask for it – shines through as she talks about a coaching career that has spanned 15 years and over 4,500 hours of work with high-level leaders and teams.

In this episode, we talk about:

What Daphna believes are the differences between coaches who are struggling and the ones who are making a success of their coaching business, and how to move from one group to the other.

Why coaching really comes from listening with full presence to our clients and ourselves.

The importance of thinking about who you spend time with.

How Daphna uses rhythm to find flow with her business AND give her family – the most important thing to her – what they need.

Daphna’s thoughts on defining ourselves, our branding and our message by getting to know ourselves.

Daphna also opens up about the personal challenges and growth journeys that are reflected in her Leadership Live podcast and her brand new book, Weekly Habits For Extraordinary Leaders.

For more information about Daphna, visit: https://daphnahorowitz.com/

For information about Robbie’s wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswalecoaching.com.
Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community

Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):

~24: This is Marketing by Seth Godin https://seths.blog/tim/

~26: The support and challenge model https://uspire.co.uk/blog/leadership/whats-the-perfect-balance-of-challenge-support-as-a-leader/

~27: BetterUp https://www.betterup.com/

~28: Conscious Business by Fred Kofman https://www.fredkofman.org/lec-ing.php

~30: International Coaching Federation (ICF) principles https://coachingfederation.org/core-competencies

~32: Daphna's Leadership Live podcast: https://daphnahorowitz.com/podcastlive/

~57: David Deida https://deida.info/

~59: Coaches Rising - Becoming a Transformative Presence https://www.coachesrising.com/becomeatransformativepresence/

~1.03: Ingrid Goff-Maidoff https://ingridgoffmaidoff.com/ and her poem

~1.06: Daphna's book, Courage to Lead https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/24693486-courage-to-lead

~1.31: Finding your WHY by Simon Sinek https://simonsinek.com/find-your-why/

~1.34: Start with WHY by Simon Sinek https://simonsinek.com/product/start-with-why/

~1.40: The video Robbie mentioned, although unfortunately it doesn't actually include the details of his proposal as he thought it might: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ub_gFNZ8bsY

~1.45: Daphna's book, Weekly Habits for Extraordinary Leaders https://daphnahorowitz.com/personal-mastery/weekly-habits/

In the Coach’s Journey Podcast, host Robbie Swale speaks to coaches who are creating a business and life which fulfils them. Through these conversations, you can learn how each coach came to coaching, grew their practice and found their way to the successful business they have today. Each interview, like each journey, is different. But each is also packed with insights, tips, suggestions and ideas to grow your coaching business, have even greater impact creating change in the lives of your clients and thrive as a human while you do it.

With 25 episodes now recorded - which comes to almost 50 hours of content - I thought I’d record a short introduction to the podcast, for those who haven’t been with me on the journey since Episode #1. In this short intro I point to some of the places you might want to start listening, although of course, you might just want to begin at the beginning.

Keen-eared listeners may also notice that I reveal the next two guests, which until now was only known to me, them and supporters of the podcast - I hope it isn’t too much to wait until those episodes drop in the next couple of months. They’re really good ones.

As always, let me know if you have any suggestions for the podcast or for future guests, and thank you so much for your support!

For information about Robbie’s wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswalecoaching.com.

To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

Profound moments of connection and belief illuminate the story of Jeffrey Wotherspoon's life, which has taken him from a crossroads of uncertainty to becoming an executive and life coach, international trainer and conflict resolution specialist.

It's a journey he reflects upon with happiness and pride, having overcome loneliness, conflict and despair to pursue a calling that has instilled him with purpose, and earned him a reputation as a unique leader, motivator and instigator of change.

From working with young people and sensing his value for the first time, to bringing truth and revelation to people in prisons, Jeffrey has been guided by faith, family, and a phenomenal work ethic.

In this episode, we talk about:

Bridging the empathy gap to work with hard-to-reach groups

The answers we hold inside ourselves, often without knowing

Prayer, and the different forms that guiding practices can take

Balancing associate coaching work with serious, committed private clients

How to spot the steps we may need to take in our careers and lives that don't always feel safe.

Jeffrey also speaks about how God guided him to his purpose in life, the new patterns and habits that have arrived during the coronavirus pandemic, and how he is reshaping his approach in response to them.

For more information about Jeffrey, visit: https://www.the-centre.co.uk/about/jeffrey_wotherspoon or https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffrey-wotherspoon-cfpac-ilm-35973561/

For information about Robbie’s wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswalecoaching.com.

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community

Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):

~3: Kids Company News Story that Robbie mentions in the intro: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56044000

~17: County lines https://www.nationalcrimeagency.gov.uk/what-we-do/crime-threats/drug-trafficking/county-lines

~27: Danyella Glasgow https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannyellaglasgow/

~30: Damilola Taylor https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-55059793

~24: Anster https://www.antser.com/

~60: The UCB Word for Today https://www.ucb.co.uk/word-for-today

~1.06: Peter's walk on water https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2014%3A22-33&version=NIV

~1.15: Youth Offending Team https://www.gov.uk/youth-offending-team

~1.17: Kids Company https://www.communityni.org/organisation/kids-company-uk

~1.17: MOE Foundation https://moefoundation.com/ Certified Coach Training Course https://moefoundation.com/programmes

~1.20: Camila Batmanghelidjh https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/camila-batmanghelidjh-kids-company-b1808227.html

~1.32: Spark Inside https://www.sparkinside.org/

~1.32: Young Women's Trust https://www.youngwomenstrust.org/

~1.33: Frontline Programme https://thefrontline.org.uk/our-programmes/frontline-programme/

~1.56: Trailblazers Mentoring https://www.trailblazersmentoring.org.uk/

Kim Morgan has a mantra for everything she does. It's about the learning space, and its power as a vehicle for change.

That space is one she grew up in, with parents she describes as very psychologically aware, and Kim went on to train as a humanistic person-centred therapist before finding herself in need of "something grittier".

Via Freudian psychotherapy and neuro-linguistic programming, she discovered her gift for developing training and experienced a revelation when she realised that not everyone grew up, like her, constantly absorbing new perspectives and reframing situations.

Barefoot Coaching is now world renowned, but Kim established it – with its name inspired by a cherished poem – at a time when there was very little training for coaches available in the UK.

Nearly 15 years later, a tragedy struck that altered Kim's perspective on her life and her work. But remarkably, she returned to deepen her practice and grow even further the many joyous success stories of more than 4,000 Barefoot alumni.

In this episode, we talk about:

The story of how Kim built Barefoot into one of the most successful coaching organisations in the UK

How training as a coach mirrors the process of coaching

The way adults learn, and how it differs from children

The conditions in which transformational moments occur

What happens when training is both fierce and compassionate

How to honour endings in our coaching engagements, and how to make them matter

Kim also speaks movingly about the devastation of loss, the perspective shift that came with her grief, and the support she found in the least expected places.

For more information about Kim, visit: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mdkimmorgan/

For information about Robbie’s wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswalecoaching.com.

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community

Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):

~5: Barry Ennis on the Coach’s Journey https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-9-barry-ennis-follow-the-fire

~16: “The learning space is the optimal development atmosphere and vehicle for change in which meanings can be played with and understood. An area of psychological experience located between wishes and reality, between one's inner and outer worlds. It allows for certainties about self and others to loosen in order to allow for playful reflection and creativity to enable shifts in self-identity.” - DW Winnicott, Playing and reality. https://scholar.google.com/scholar_lookup?hl=en&publication_year=1971&author=+Winnicott%2C+D.W.&title=Playing+and+Reality

~12: Wheel of Anything https://elisabethgoodman.wordpress.com/tag/wheel-of-anything/

~19: Jack Mezirow https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Mezirow

~22: Humanistic person-centred therapy https://www.simplypsychology.org/client-centred-therapy.html

~25: Neuro-Linguistic Programming https://www.goodtherapy.org/learn-about-therapy/types/neuro-linguistic-programming

~25: Solution-focused brief therapy https://solutionfocused.net/what-is-solution-focused-therapy/

~25: Robert Holden's Happiness Project https://www.robertholden.com/the-happiness-project/

~25: Positive psychology coaching https://positivepsychology.com/positive-psychology-life-coaching/

~30: I'd Pick More Daisies http://www.devpsy.org/nonscience/daisies.html

~31: Coach U https://www.coachu.com/home/

~35: Sir John Whitmore https://www.performanceconsultants.com/sir-john-whitmore

~35: Joseph O'Connor https://internationalcoachingcommunity.com/joseph-oconnor/

~40: Nancy Kline https://www.timetothink.com/nancy-kline/

~40: Jamie Smart https://www.jamiesmart.com/

~40: Damian Hughes http://liquidthinker.com/

~40: Julie Starr https://starrcoaching.co.uk/

~40: John Perry https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-perry-71490867/?originalSubdomain=uk

~45: Kim Morgan Coaching Cards for Every Day https://www.amazon.co.uk/Coaching-Cards-Every-Day-Barefoot/dp/0992898943

~1.05: The Coach's Casebook https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/25017473-the-coach-s-casebook

~1.14: Cruse bereavement services https://www.cruse.org.uk/

~1.14: The grief recovery method https://www.griefrecoverymethod.com/

~1.14: The Good Grief Project https://thegoodgriefproject.co.uk/

~1.15: Rio Ferdinand, Being Mum and Dad https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08kzclp

~1.17: West Midlands Coaching Pool https://www.wmemployers.org.uk/what-we-do/coaching/west-midlands-coaching-and-mentoring-pool/

~1.28: Joel Monk https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-6-joel-monk-conversations-at-the-cutting-edge-of-coaching

~1.43: Coaching Skills for Family Life https://www.barefootcoaching.co.uk/news-blog/coaching-skills-family-life

~1.45: PG Cert in Coaching Supervision https://www.barefootcoaching.co.uk/courses/pg-cert-coaching-supervision

Coaching in your flow state is like playing jazz, according to Jacinta Jiménez, who has devoted herself to studying the psychology of performance and behaviour change.

Striving to become a dancer at a young age taught Jacinta invaluable lessons about flow, drive and resilience, and her passion for the arts spills forth when she speaks about how it almost consumed her.

Jacinta, driven to keep others from having to defer their dreams, has channelled her experience of what she calls the dark side of passion into her groundbreaking work on the personal, structural and societal causes of burnout in her book The Burnout Fix.

And she has been a growing influence on the world of coaching, using her passion for data and scientific research to debunk misnomers about success as Head of Coaching and then VP, Coaching Innovation at BetterUp, the market-leading organisation and coaching-at-scale pioneers who now have more than 2,000 coaches across 65 countries supporting professionals with the personal and professional growth.

In this episode, we talk about:

Why we are all nervous to explore our internal landscape

The dangers of falling into 'the expert trap'

The periodic table of elements for a resilient life

How to look for burnout and how to replenish yourself as a coach

Why burnout was originally found in helping professions, and why coaches might be at risk

The impact that coaching at scale and heart-centred leadership can have on the world

Jacinta also shares key insights from her book, The Burnout Fix, and speaks about how she is harnessing science-backed resilience strategies to buffer against burnout.

For more information about Jacinta, visit: https://www.drjacintajimenez.com/

For information about Robbie’s wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswalecoaching.com.

To find out more about the WBECS Summit (including the complimentary Pre-Summit), click on one of the banners or visit: https://coach.wbecs.com/wbecs-2021/a182301. You can support The Coach’s Journey podcast if you register via this link!

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community

Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):

~3: The WBECS Pre-Summit https://coach.wbecs.com/wbecs-2021/a182301

~6: BetterUp https://www.betterup.com/

~7: The Meaning Revolution by Fred Kofman https://www.fredkofman.org/lrds-ing.php

~7: Robbie's article on The Meaning Revolution by Fred Kofman https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/its-time-you-die-robbie-swale/

~10: Fred Kofman https://www.fredkofman.org/

~25: Timothy Wilson's shock study https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2014/07/people-would-rather-be-electrically-shocked-left-alone-their-thoughts

~29: Positive Psychology https://positivepsychology.com/

~32: College of Executive Coaching https://www.executivecoachcollege.com/

~38: Prince Harry joins BetterUp https://www.betterup.com/en-us/resources/blog/prince-harry-chief-impact-officer

~40: Jacinta's book, The Burnout Fix https://www.drjacintajimenez.com/theburnoutfix

~42: Martin Seligman https://positivepsychology.com/who-is-martin-seligman/

~42: Barbara Fredrickson https://www.pursuit-of-happiness.org/history-of-happiness/barb-fredrickson/

~1.10: Christina Maslach https://psychology.berkeley.edu/people/christina-maslach

Saying yes has shaped Robert Stephenson's life. 

Accepting opportunities and seeing where they took him propelled Robert as he became a trained actor, a narrative coach, and the director of Animas Centre for Coaching - one of Europe’s largest coaching schools.

While this optimistic disposition has guided him through a career that he thinks of as "a quest", he has not shied away from difficult conversations around diversity, inclusion, and even climate within the coaching space.

He shares his own experiences to help create vital dialogue that is free from shame and embarrassment, and to break down barriers in the industry.

He now leads a coaching community at Animas that is constantly evolving as its many thousands of members learn and grow, and is the host of the Coaching Uncaged podcast.

Robert draws on his theatrical roots as he brings the spirit of improvisation and creativity to coaching, helping people channel their passion, work from their emotions, and live their stories.

In this episode, we talk about:

The vital role of creativity in coaching

Recognising that coaching moves at a separate speed from the world and how jarring it can be to move from on speed to another

The Hero’s Journey and the narratives we are all part of (or think we are)

The power of saying yes and how Robert decides whether to say yes or no

Making room for improvisation and experimentation as we build our coaching businesses

Why Robert is so energised by conversations about diversity and inclusion in coaching, and how he has brought his coaching skills to those conversations

Robert also speaks articulately about his journey as a leader, his role in the spectacular growth of Animas, and how he and his colleagues inspire and motivate the community.

For more information about Robert, visit: https://www.animascoaching.com/about-animas/our-team/robert-stephenson/ or https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/coaching-uncaged/id1326900151

The Inclusion Summit Robert mentions in the episode is set to happen in August 2021 on Thursday evenings. Details are still to be confirmed, but visit the Animas website or follow the Animas social media accounts to stay up-to-date.

For information about Robbie’s wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswalecoaching.com.

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community

Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):

~10: Creative Partnerships https://www.creativitycultureeducation.org/programme/creative-partnerships/

~10: Mathilda Joubert: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mathilda-joubert-8299705/

~13: Coaching for Dummies https://www.dummies.com/business/management/coaching-mentoring-for-dummies-cheat-sheet/

~13: The Grow Model https://www.performanceconsultants.com/grow-model

~15: London Coaching Group on Meetup https://www.meetup.com/London-Coaching-Group/

~15: Nick Bolton, founder of Animas https://www.animascoaching.com/about-animas/our-team/nick-bolton/

~20: Nash Popovic https://www.uel.ac.uk/staff/p/nash-popovic

~23: Narrative therapy and narrative coaching https://www.bacp.co.uk/bacp-journals/coaching-today/july-2015/the-stories-we-tell/

~25: Joseph Campbell, The Hero's Journey https://qz.com/1436608/this-classic-formula-can-show-you-how-to-live-more-heroically/

~42: David Shephard https://performancepartnership.com/about-us/david-shephard/

~49: Celia Greenwood https://www.wacarts.co.uk/homepage/ceo-and-founder-celia-greenwood-steps-down-this-month

~55: Unclassified theatre company http://totaltheatre.org.uk/archive/features/treading-boards-or-treading-water-mime-mainstream

~65: Chris Grady http://www.chrisgrady.org/

~66: Nick Bolton’s retirement letter https://www.animascoaching.com/blog/an-open-letter-from-nick-bolton-on-his-animas-retirement-282/

~1.05: Liz Gilbert https://www.elizabethgilbert.com/

~1.30: Coaching Climate Alliance https://www.climatecoachingalliance.org/

~1.35: Animas Impact https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/animas-centre-coaching-launches-new-social-impact-arm-emma-koubayssi/

~1.35: Animas Creating Space https://www.animascoaching.com/creating-space/

~1.38: Sonia Gill at Heads Up https://ukheadsup.com/about-us/meet-the-team/

~1.42: Transactional analysis https://www.goodtherapy.org/learn-about-therapy/types/transactional-analysis

~1.43: How to Have Impossible Conversations, by Peter Boghossian and James Lindsay https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/43885240-how-to-have-impossible-conversations

~1.46: Jackee Holder http://www.jackeeholder.com/

~1.46: BACP feature by Robert, on diversity and inclusion in coaching https://www.bacp.co.uk/bacp-journals/coaching-today/january-2021/a-wealth-of-experience/

~1.50: Robert's LinkedIn profile https://www.linkedin.com/in/robert-stephenson-2491a21

~2.04: Che Walker's Revolution events https://www.wacarts.co.uk/homepage/revolution-review

~2.09: Steve Chandler https://www.coachingprosperityschool.info/

When Inga Umblija received an innocuous email from a recruitment firm over 10 years ago, she could never have known the impact it would have upon her life.

The email contained a message from Phil Bolton (Episode #2), in which he outlined his strategies for career change.

Inga took the bold step of reaching out to Phil and set in motion a conversation that, over the years that followed, became filled with ideas too powerful not to share with the world.

Those ideas are made manifest in The Abundance Formula, through which Phil and Inga offer people the chance to learn what it feels like to live their best life every day ­– a life fortified with joy, ease, connectedness, openness and gratitude.

They join Robbie to discuss the magic that has emerged from their remarkable synergy, and to explore the mindset of abundance, possibility and boldness they harness to open up worlds of potential for their clients.

In this episode, we talk about:

Trusting your higher self and not letting your mind get in the way

How the sum of your experience can feel like magic at your fingertips

Shortening the gap between noticing the need for change and making it happen

How to apply Phil and Inga’s Abundance Formula to growing a coaching practice

Why Inga believes the Abundance formula is a meta model for everything about human transformation

Inga and Phil’s relationship has evolved from working together as coach and client, to becoming trainer and trainee, and on to collaborating as business partners, and they credit a possibility mindset for enabling their connection to flourish.

For more information about The Abundance Formula, and to take Phil and Inga’s test to find your abundance superpower, visit http://theabundanceformula.co/

For more information about Inga, visit: https://www.linkedin.com/in/inga-umblija/ and for more on Phil visit http://www.phil-bolton.com/, or listen to Phil’s first appearance on the podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-2-phil-bolton-from-forensic-accountant-to-the-go-to-career-coach-in-london-and-on-to-work-with-ceos-mds-and-founders

For information about Robbie’s wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswalecoaching.com.

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community

Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):

~10: Tony Robbins: https://www.tonyrobbins.com/

~13: Tony Robbins’ Netflix Documentary, I Am Not Your Guru https://www.netflix.com/title/80102204

~17: A Course in Miracles: https://acim.org/

~17: The Healer’s Prayer from A Course in Miracles: https://twitter.com/drromie/status/1000414261313769472 3

~17: Marianne Williamson’s A Course in Miracles resource: https://marianne.com/365-days-of-a-course-in-miracles/

~22: Thinking Fast and Slow, by Daniel Kahneman https://www.psychologicalscience.org/observer/thinking-fast-and-slow

~28: Robert Holden https://www.robertholden.com/

~30: Freshminds https://www.freshminds.co.uk/

~58: Curve https://www.curve.cc/

~1.02: Derek Sivers, How To Start A Movement https://www.ted.com/talks/derek_sivers_how_to_start_a_movement

~1:17: Phil’s Abundance Story https://www.linkedin.com/in/lessordinaryliving/detail/recent-activity/shares/

~1:31: Utopia for Realists by Rutger Bregman https://www.rutgerbregman.com/books

~1.40: Tony Robbins’ model of human needs https://www.tonyrobbins.com/mind-meaning/do-you-need-to-feel-significant/

~1.47: The Abundance Formula http://theabundanceformula.co/

~2.09: Loveability, by Robert Holden https://www.robertholden.com/loveability/

Fiona Setch has faced seemingly impossible situations in her life.

From caring for terminally-ill patients during the HIV/AIDS pandemic of the 1980s, to experiencing a devastating loss to COVID-19 through a nursing home window in 2020, life's biggest challenges have, she says, changed her.

Those hardships have given Fiona the gift of being able to be present when faced with death, and a rare ability to talk about it.

As a professional coach and trainer with vast experience, she now brings a coaching approach to palliative care, running training to support doctors and nurses through the current global pandemic alongside a broad portfolio of coaching and training.

Her flair for poetry has helped her to make the change she sees in her coaching clients more visible, and the conversation we shared created a space for wonderfully poignant reading.

In this episode, we talk about:

The importance of experiential learning

How Fiona structures her maternity coaching and retirement coaching work

The curse of perfectionism

Confidence coaching, and how to wobble without falling

Emphasising the 'super vision' of supervision

Fiona's talent for writing has also led to a forthcoming new book that tells stories about the unique moment in time we are all living through, interwoven with the coaching strategies she has honed during a fascinating career.

For more information about Fiona, visit http://www.fionasetch.co.uk/

For information about Robbie’s wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswalecoaching.com.

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community

Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):

- Marie Curie https://www.mariecurie.org.uk/

- London Lighthouse https://lgbthistoryuk.org/wiki/London_Lighthouse

- AIDS: Monolith public information film https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iroty5zwOVw

- It's A Sin https://www.channel4.com/programmes/its-a-sin

- Benjamin Zander – The Art of Possibility https://www.benjaminzander.org/about/the-art-of-possibility/

- Benjamin Zander's TED Talk https://www.benjaminzander.org/about/speaker/

- Benjamin Zander's rule number 6 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-HG6X6fpBM

- Terrence Higgins Trust https://www.tht.org.uk/

- Marianne Craig coaching https://www.coachlifeandcareer.com/

- Kolb’s learning cycle https://experientiallearninginstitute.org/resources/what-is-experiential-learning/

- Skyros holistic holidays https://www.skyros.com/

- St Oswald's Hospice https://www.stoswaldsuk.org/

- Dr Kathryn Mannix – With the End in Mind https://www.dyingmatters.org/page/end-mind-kathryn-mannix

- Fiona's ebook, The Art of Interview Skills https://bookboon.com/en/the-art-of-interview-skills-ebook

- Bookboon https://bookboon.com/

- Firework coaching https://www.fireworkcoaching.com/

- Maternity coaching http://www.fionasetch.co.uk/maternitycoaching.html

- Two Coach Confidence Podcast https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/two-coach-podcast/id1511161169

- Richard Nugent - The 50 Secrets of Self-Confidence https://www.hachette.co.uk/titles/richard-nugent/the-50-secrets-of-self-confidence/9781473622234/

- Gina Ford https://www.ginaford.com/

- Myers-Briggs Personality Type Indicator  https://www.myersbriggs.org/my-mbti-personality-type/mbti-basics/

- Coaching at Work https://www.coaching-at-work.com/

- Coaching Through COVID https://coachingthroughcovid.org/

- Michael Heppell – How to Be Brilliant https://www.michaelheppell.com/books/

- Tapping therapy, also known as EFT (Emotional Freedom Technique) https://www.thetappingsolution.com/tapping-101/

- Association for Coaching https://www.associationforcoaching.com/

It's surprising to learn that one of Phil Goddard's earliest memories is of standing on the fringes of a playing field, away from everybody else, on his first day at infants' school.

He has since focused his life and career on building intimacy and connection but he recalls that early memory with affection because, he says, it reminds him he has always been a people watcher, fascinated by what makes people tick.

As a coach, speaker, leadership consultant and the host of The Coaching Life podcast, Phil works with entrepreneurs, company directors, bar workers, and parents among a client base united by their desire to enjoy life and experience joyful, easier relationships.

In our conversation, Phil powerfully describes a shift in his own life and his relationship with himself; a shift from carefully avoiding regrets to being willing to take risks in order to live with more presence.

Unafraid to challenge life’s 'photoshopping' wherever he finds it, Phil speaks candidly about strong reactions he has faced in his pursuit of authenticity, and tells the incredible story that spawned the podcast he always introduces as ‘peeling back the bullcrap’ of the coaching industry.

In this episode, we talk about:

How the island of Zakynthos, and its energy of love, helps Phil create clients

The jaw-dropping experience of inauthenticity from a mentor that led to the creation of The Coaching Life

Why it’s unhealthy to aspire to a photoshopped image of the coaching profession

How the one thing that predicts the good times in Phil’s business is his relationship with his business

What it's like to be you when you're not trying to be anybody - even yourself

He is a staunch believer in living without a script, and that makes for a wonderfully open, honest discussion. And he is also an expert at speaking to coaches and about coaching, which makes this a really practical one, too.

Phil can be contacted via philg.com and found on Facebook via fbphil.com.

For information about Robbie’s wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswalecoaching.com.

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community

Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):

- NLP https://www.nlp.com/what-is-nlp/

- Robert Holden https://www.robertholden.com/

- The Seven Habits of Highly Effective People, by Stephen Covey https://www.franklincovey.com/the-7-habits/

- The Prosperous Coach by Rich Litvin and Steve Chandler https://www.waterstones.com/book/the-prosperous-coach/steve-chandler/rich-litvin/9781600250309

- Steve Chandler's coaching school https://www.coachingprosperityschool.info/

- TS Elliot quote https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/644987-we-shall-not-cease-from-exploration-and-the-end-of

- Carolyn Freyer Jones https://carolynfreyerjones.com/

- Steve Hardison https://theultimatecoach.com/

- Melissa Ford https://melissafordcoaching.com/

- Phil's podcast, The Coaching Life https://philg.com/CoachingLifePodcast/

- Phil's conversation with Matt Watkins https://soundcloud.com/coachinglife/024-matt-watkins

- Aaron Turner on the Rewilding Love Podcast with Angus and Rohini Ross https://www.therewilders.org/blog/ep34-rewilding-love-aaron-turner

- Phil's favourite episode https://philg.com/CoachingLifePodcast/?post=069-phil-goddard

- Jamie Smart https://www.jamiesmart.com/

- Brenton Hughes https://www.facebook.com/brenton.hughes.90 

- Robert Holden's Success Intelligence Mastermind https://www.successintelligence.com/

- Loveability, by Robert Holden https://www.robertholden.com/loveability/

- Phil's books https://philg.com/books.html

Myles Downey has been playing tennis all his life. But now, at the age of 62, he is relearning to play the game in a way that’s aligned with his identity and his unique take on genius.

A global authority on performance, coaching and leadership, and the author of classic coaching tomes such as Effective Modern Coaching, Myles says tennis has been instrumental in shaping his view of people and how they learn.

In our fascinating conversation, he describes the transformative experience of reading Timothy Gallwey's The Inner Game of Tennis, and how that led him on a path towards demonstrating the principles of coaching to more people than anyone else ever has.

Having been at the forefront of business coaching for over three decades, Myles explains why Leader Performance is now his major focus, and how he developed the Enabling Genius model and put together a project team to look at the area of genius, which he wrote about in his book Enabling Genius – A Mindset for Success in the 21st Century.

In this episode, we talk about:

The vital shift from instruction to focusing on each individual's ability to learn for themselves

What Myles thinks are the two most useful coaching questions

Why coaches must look beyond the individual goals of each client  

The Boost Leadership mobile learning platform that Myles has helped to develop

Moving from 'command and control' to 'align and enable' and the battle between love and will

In a world hung up on control and codification, Myles is a compelling advocate for the power of self-expression, creativity and innovation, and his passion is impossible to ignore.

For more information about Myles, visit http://mylesdowney.com/, or email him at myles@mylesdowney.com.

For information about Robbie’s wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswalecoaching.com.

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community

Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):

- Myles giving a full coaching session on the JMJ YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDCKgvuHZKQ

- The Inner Game of Tennis by Timothy Gallwey https://theinnergame.com/inner-game-books/the-inner-game-of-tennis/

- The Alexander Partnership https://www.thealexanderpartnership.com/about-us/

- Enabling Genius, and Effective Modern Coaching by Myles Downey http://mylesdowney.com/writing/

- George Kelly and his Personal Construct Theory https://www.verywellmind.com/george-kelly-biography-2795498

- Roberto Assagioli https://psychosynthesistrust.org.uk/7-remarkable-facts-about-roberto-assagioli/

- Ken Wilber https://integrallife.com/who-is-ken-wilber/

- Werner Erhard http://www.wernererhard.com/

- Waking Up The Workplace podcast http://www.wakinguptheworkplace.com/

- Alan Fine https://theinnergame.com/alan-fine-developing-the-grow-model/

- Sir John Whitmore https://www.performanceconsultants.com/sir-john-whitmore

- McKinsey https://www.mckinsey.com/

- The School of Coaching https://www.theschoolofcoaching.com/

- Ken Wilber's pre/trans fallacy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Wilber#Pre/trans_fallacy

- Heather Dawson https://www.linkedin.com/in/heather-dawson-79b09169/

- Praesta coaching https://www.praesta.co.uk/

- The European Mentoring and Coaching Council (EMCC) https://www.emccglobal.org/

- The International Coaching Federation (ICF) https://coachingfederation.org/

- Eddie Jones https://www.englandrugby.com/england/senior-men/squad/eddie-jones

- ActionCOACH https://www.actioncoach.com/

- Boost Leadership http://playboostnow.com/

- George Kelly Shaper Of: Personal Meaning, by Trevor Butt https://www.betterworldbooks.com/product/detail/9780230008410

- Inner Tennis: Playing the Game, by Timothy Gallwey https://books.google.co.uk/books/about/Inner_Tennis.html?id=G3G1AAAAIAAJ&redir_esc=y

- Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi's TED talk on flow https://www.ted.com/talks/mihaly_csikszentmihalyi_flow_the_secret_to_happiness?language=en

Having achieved success running a popular clubnight in London and living his life by "trusting serendipity", Mike Toller wondered whether he could make more of a difference in people's lives. That thought was the beginning of his journey to becoming a professional coach and a psychodynamic psychotherapist.

The world of coaching opened up to him through conversations with Phil Bolton, who trained both Mike and I at the very start of our coaching careers, and through some remarkable discussions with his flying instructor that Mike talks about in this episode.

Our journeys have remained intertwined ever since, and recently we have been working together to train new coaches for a consultancy called Curve, who are doing amazing work in the world.

That experience has given us the opportunity to refocus on the essence of our coaching practices, and in this episode we explore what we have learned and shared, both together and separately, over the course of an enduring friendship and a hugely productive working relationship.

In this episode, we talk about:

Using physical space symbolically to shift perspectives in coaching sessions

Mike's role in the world's only indie air guitar band

Getting back to the fundamentals of coaching and how, as coaches, we can model healthy relationships

The vital importance of intentionality and how to create it in coaching relationships

What happens when we make coaching sessions an embodied experience

Mike is also a practising psychodynamic psychotherapist, and he offers valuable insight into both worlds, comparing and contrasting them from his unique vantage point.

For more information about Mike, visit https://www.michaeltollercoaching.co.uk/ or email him at michaeltollercoaching@gmail.com.

For information about Robbie’s wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswale.com.

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community

Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):

- Phil Bolton http://www.phil-bolton.com/

- Vegard Olsen https://coachingpartner.net/cp/en/

- Introduction to Counselling at Birkbeck https://www.bbk.ac.uk/study/2021/short-courses/modules/SSPA/SSPA116N0/

- What a Girl Wants https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0286788/

- Feeling Gloomy https://feelinggloomy.com/

- Club de Fromage https://clubdefromage.com/

- The Coaching School https://www.michaeltollercoaching.co.uk/training

- Episode #2 with Phil Bolton https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-2-phil-bolton-from-forensic-accountant-to-the-go-to-career-coach-in-london-and-on-to-work-with-ceos-mds-and-founders

- Curve https://www.curve.cc/

- Episode #15 with Toku McCree https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-15-toku-mccree-sales-with-honour-and-love-on-the-end-of-a-sword

- Kim Morgan and Barefoot Coaching https://www.barefootcoaching.co.uk/about-us/kim-morgan

- Robert Stephenson https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-27-robert-stephenson-animas-how-to-say-yes-and-become-a-conduit-for-change

- Animas https://www.animascoaching.com/creating-space/

- Closer Apart, the book on designing and facilitating workshops by Curve https://www.closerapartbook.com/

- The interview with Inga Umblija from Curve and Phil Bolton about their work on abundance https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-28-inga-umblija-phil-bolton-abundance-formula

- John Monks https://www.thnk.org/community/people/john-monks/

- Katie Harvey https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/coaching-during-coronavirus-katie-harvey

The name listening ALCHEMY came to Raquel Ark in the middle of the night, evoking ideas of how art and science could combine to distil and purify the act of listening.

Soon after, she was asked to deliver a number of workshops on listening, giving her the confidence to build a career around the subject to which she has devoted her life and turn listening ALCHEMY into a business.

As her recent TED talk testifies, listening is the centre of Raquel's work as a communications coach, public speaker, mentor of leaders, and host of the Listen IN podcast. 

Raquel’s mission is to give listening a voice, and she teaches people how to listen in a way that creates true connection, leading to change and action at an individual level and a broader, systemic level.

In our conversation, Raquel shares powerful insights about her life and work, including a metaphorical tool for getting present in coaching sessions, and wisdom about how people's minds really work when they are listening.

In this episode, we talk about:

The power of playfulness in opening doors to new coaching methods

Coaching as a meditation on presence

How to make sure you are understood in the way that's important to you

Listening circles and how to ensure everyone's voice is heard

Raquel explains how listening is about more than words, and you will learn how to allow your clients to listen to themselves.

For more information about Raquel, visit https://listeningalchemy.com/ or email her at contact@listeningalchemy.com.

For information about Robbie’s wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswale.com, and to buy his book, click here.

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community

Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):

- Robbie’s book, How to Start (a book, business or creative project) When You’re Stuck https://geni.us/startwhenyourestuck

- Vera Janke https://www.linkedin.com/in/verajanke/

- International Coaching Federation (ICF) https://coachingfederation.org/

- Transformational Presence: How to Make a Difference in a Rapidly Changing World, by Alan Seale https://transformationalpresence.org/transformational-presence-book/

- Coaches Rising, The Power of Presence https://www.coachesrising.com/powerofpresence/

- Robbie’s article on recommitting https://www.robbieswale.com/writing/2018/5/23/recommitting-is-the-journey

- Raquel's TED talk on Growing your Listening Superpower https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wgFrKRjYiA

- Raquel’s conversation with Colin Smith https://listeningalchemy.com/2021/11/15/stop-doing-listening-and-start-being-a-listener-with-colin-smith-2/

- Presencing Institute https://www.presencing.org/

- Jodie Goulden https://keynotewomen.com/speaker/jodiegoulden

- Niels Van Quaquebeke https://www.the-klu.org/faculty-research/faculty/resident-faculty/niels-van-quaquebeke/

- Mike Toller https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-32-mike-toller

- Myles Downey https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-31-myles-downey

- Guy Itzchakov https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Guy-Itzchakov-2

- Templeton Foundation's Listening and Learning study https://www.templetonworldcharity.org/blog/listening-and-learning-changing-mindsets-and-emotional-responses-promote-human-flourishing

- Avi Kluger https://www.avi-kluger.com/about-me

- Raquel's podcast, Listen In https://podcasts.apple.com/br/podcast/listen-in/id1457489060?l=en

- Listen In episode with Corine Jansen https://listeningalchemy.com/2019/08/12/practical-insights-for-leaders-to-bring-listening-into-their-organizations-that-have-real-impact-with-corine-jansen-part-2/

- Raquel's Listening Playgrounds https://listeningalchemy.com/listening-playgrounds/

- Rebel Wisdom https://rebelwisdom.co.uk/

In a world where the attention we give people lasts just 11 seconds on average, Anne Hathaway is a believer in the transformative power of listening and being heard.

She compares the experience of being truly heard to that of being loved, and this forms the heart of her work as a coach, supervisor and leadership developer, providing people with generative attention and spaces in which to heal and grow.

When Anne discovered Nancy Kline's work around the Thinking Environment, she saw her own life's work in that approach. For over 25 years they have worked together at Time To Think, where Anne is a member of the senior faculty. 

Our conversation tracks her remarkable life and career, from overcoming profound personal and professional challenges to becoming an inspirational and celebrated coach, mentor and change facilitator.

In this episode, we talk about:

Generative attention, and how to listen in order to ignite the thinking of the other person

How listening skills can be the key to conflict resolution

The fact that good ideas can come from anywhere, regardless of a person's status or position

How to empower people who don't trust their own inner wisdom

The importance of creating conditions of safety in which people can heal

Anne describes the impact of Time To Think and the Thinking Environment as "world shaking", and explains how our train of thought can lead us to new horizons.

She also opens up about her recent diagnosis for complex PTSD, and how that journey has inspired her to connect with and speak to the world in new ways.

For more information about Anne, visit https://annehathaway.co.uk/ or email her at anne@annehathaway.co.uk.

For information about Robbie’s wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswale.com, and to buy his book, click here.

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community

Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):

- Robbie’s book, How to Start (a book, business or creative project) When You’re Stuck https://geni.us/startwhenyourestuck

- Stephanie Archer at Time To Think https://www.timetothink.com/stephanie-archer/

- Nancy Kline's book, Time To Think https://www.timetothink.com/books/time-to-think/

- The Thinking Environment https://www.timetothink.com/thinking-environment/

- European Foundation for Management Development https://www.efmdglobal.org/

- Joyce Matthews tweet about being heard https://twitter.com/JoyceMatthews_/status/1480468857445830657?s=20

- Thinking Partnership Programme courses https://www.thinkitthrough.co.uk/thinking-partnership-programme/

- David Rock and the NeuroLeadership Institute https://neuroleadership.com/personnel/david-rock/

- Hamish McRae https://www.independent.co.uk/author/hamish-mcrae

- The 10 Components https://www.timetothink.com/thinking-environment/the-ten-components/

- Dr Christopher Goscomb https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisgoscomb/

- Time To Think collegiate days https://www.thethinkingproject.co.uk/professionaldevelopment/timetothinkcollegiatedays

- Linda Aspey https://www.timetothink.com/coach/linda-aspey/

- Alex Howard and The Optimum Health Clinic https://www.alexhoward.com/

- EMDR therapy https://www.apa.org/ptsd-guideline/treatments/eye-movement-reprocessing

- Jayne Rooke's blog post on domestic abuse statistics https://jaynerooke.co.uk/blog/2022/1/10/monday-musings-not-and-advent-blog

- Sarah Parrott's blog post on coercive and controlling behaviour https://epichr.co.uk/2021/12/27/adventblogs-you-do-matter-always/

- Art Giser and Energetic NLP https://energeticnlp.com/about-art-giser/

- David Trelevean https://davidtreleaven.com/

- Somatic experiencing therapy https://www.seauk.org.uk/

- Anne's website www.annehathaway.co.uk 

At the end of last year I published a book called How to Start When You're Stuck, and since then I have found myself seeing everything through the frame the book presents.

My book is about overcoming resistance, procrastination and fear through something I call 'The 12-Minute Method', and in this episode of The Coach's Journey Podcast I bring this idea into focus.

I go back to the very start of my journey as a writer, to when I would find myself paralysed with my finger hovering over the 'post' button.

You'll hear me describe five key principles for building your own 12-minute method and how maintaining a practice, forming habits, and committing to those things over time can lead to magical outcomes.

Having applied the 12-Minute Method while I created it, I can now advise people how to build a 12-minute practice for their coaching business, and that is covered here, along with a lot of what I've learned about the Prosperous Coach approach and the developed thinking I've done around that.

In this episode, I talk about:

How to combine the 12-minute method with the Prosperous Coach to grow your coaching business

What I would recommend if I had to choose a 12-minute practice for coaches who want to grow their business

How to nurture an authenticity practice that touches every aspect of your work

Some specific 12-minute practices that you might choose, including the one I recommend most of all

What represents real success, and how to identify it for yourself

I also talk about the impact that not starting something that you want to do can have on your life, and how that can be a vital driving factor in starting when you are stuck.

Ultimately, this episode is about exploring who we want to become, how we become what we practise, and how we are always practising something.

For information about my wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswale.com, and to buy his book, click here.

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community

Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):

- Mastering your personal brand https://www.robbieswale.com/mastering-your-personal-brand

- Robert Holden https://www.robertholden.com/

- How to Start When You’re Stuck https://www.amazon.co.uk/Start-business-creative-project-Youre/dp/1915266009

- 100 Podcasts Challenge https://www.robbieswale.com/writing/2022/2/4/the-12-minute-method-100-podcasts-challenge

- Episode #6 with Joel Monk https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-6-joel-monk-conversations-at-the-cutting-edge-of-coaching

- Marshall Ganz's three-stage storytelling technique https://dash.harvard.edu/bitstream/handle/1/30760283/Public-Narrative-Worksheet-Fall-2013-.pdf

- My piece, A Poem About Life https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/poem-life-robbie-swale/

- My piece on How Possibility and Optimism Can Change the World https://www.robbieswale.com/writing/2016/11/8/how-possibility-and-optimism-can-change-the-world

- 12-minute blog https://www.robbieswale.com/the-12-minute-blog/

- Coaching during coronavirus, with Katie Harvey https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/coaching-during-coronavirus-katie-harvey

- Being a generalist coach, with Katie Harvey https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-1-katie-harvey-14000-hours-of-coaching-being-part-of-the-uk-coaching-vanguard-and-being-a-generalist-coach

- The story of publishing the 12-minute method https://www.robbieswale.com/the-12-minute-blog/2021/12/17/the-story-of-the-publishing-of-the-12-minute-method

- www.self-published.co.uk 

- My 12-minute article about responsibility and rights https://www.robbieswale.com/the-12-minute-blog/2021/12/4/how-our-rights-have-taken-meaning-from-our-lives-and-how-responsibility-can-bring-it-back

- Ewan Townhead's blog https://www.ewantownhead.com/blog/

- Alex Swallow’s article, ‘What I’ve learned from 100 articles on Linkedin’ https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/100-linkedin-articles-key-lessons-alex-swallow/

- Bounce by Matthew Syed https://www.matthewsyed.co.uk/resource/bounce-the-myth-of-talent-and-the-power-of-practice/

- Enabling Genius by Myles Downey http://mylesdowney.com/writing/

- My 12-minute ‘practice’ article, about Matthew Syed and Myles Downey https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/talent-myth-robbie-swale/

- Coaches Rising https://www.coachesrising.com/

- Alta Starr https://strozziinstitute.com/staff/alta-starr/

- The War of Art by Steven Pressfield https://stevenpressfield.com/books/the-war-of-art/

- My blog post on Jordan Peterson, the sacred masculine and the sacred feminine: https://www.robbieswale.com/the-12-minute-blog/2021/12/4/how-our-rights-have-taken-meaning-from-our-lives-and-how-responsibility-can-bring-it-back

- How I Became a Full Time Coach Less Than 2 Years After Starting My Training https://www.robbieswale.com/writing/2017/5/31/how-i-became-a-full-time-coach-less-than-two-years-after-starting-my-training

- The Prosperous Coach by Rich Litvin and Steve Chandler https://richlitvin.com/prosperous-coach-2-0/

- Episode #15 with Toku McCree https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-15-toku-mccree-sales-with-honour-and-love-on-the-end-of-a-sword

- Episode #20 with Giovanna Capozza https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-20-giovanna-capozza

- Carolyn Freyer Jones https://carolynfreyerjones.com/

- 12-Minute Method Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/611939479993065

- The Tim Ferriss Show https://tim.blog/podcast/

- Seth Godin's 'big book' https://seths.blog/2017/03/the-last-copies-of-my-big-book/

- Seth Godin's article on The Bannister Method https://seths.blog/2018/03/the-bannister-method/

- David Reynolds' book https://www.amazon.com/Lead-Learn-Change-David-Reynolds/dp/1737919303

- Karena de Souza’s book https://www.amazon.com/Contours-Courageous-Parenting-Tilting-Decisions/dp/1777508614

To use her own words, Jean Balfour "spectacularly failed" the assessment of the Ashridge Accredited Coach Training programme.

But this setback fuelled a massive growth journey that led Jean to become clearer about who she is as a person and set her on a path to becoming a Master Certified Coach (MCC).

In this episode of The Coach's Journey Podcast, Jean traces the steps of her career from training as a teacher, to developing leaders for local government, the National Health Service and investment banks, to the work she does now as programme director of Bailey Balfour’s ICF Accredited Coach Training Programme.

She reveals key experiences from her life and work that influenced the way she designed the coach training programme, including the vital learning she took from failing her Ashridge assessment.

This episode gives you the chance to hear a highly accomplished, vastly experienced educator, leadership developer and coach trainer share her views on the secrets to effective coaching and the most pressing challenges facing the industry.

In this episode, we talk about:

The power of cultivating a journaling practice

What Jean learned from becoming an ICF Master Certified Coach and whether credentials for coaches really matter

Looking inwards in order to grow

Moving coaching out of the West and creating global conversations

The step-by-step process Jean uses with clients, sponsors and stakeholders when coaching for organisations

Jean also reflects on what it took to successfully move her coaching practice from the United Kingdom to Singapore, and offers perspectives on how the coronavirus pandemic has shaped the future of coaching.

For more information about Jean, visit https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeanbalfour/ or her company’s website www.baileybalfour.com.

For information about my wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswale.com, and to buy my book, click here.

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community

Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):

- Barry Ennis Funeral Notice: https://funeral-notices.co.uk/notice/ennis/5020856 and Episode #9 where he was the guest: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-9-barry-ennis-follow-the-fire

- Make a donation to MIND: https://www.mind.org.uk/donate/

- Lara Quie https://www.linkedin.com/in/laraquie/

- ICF Team Coaching Competencies https://coachingfederation.org/team-coaching-competencies

- Anne Hathaway on The Coach's Journey https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-34-anne-hathaway

- Nancy Kline https://www.timetothink.com/nancy-kline/

- The Thinking Environment https://www.timetothink.com/thinking-environment/

- Raquel Ark on The Coach's Journey https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-33-raquel-ark

- Time To Think by Nancy Kline https://www.timetothink.com/books/time-to-think/

- The ICF definition of coaching https://coachingfederation.org/about

- Myles Downey on The Coach's Journey https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-31-myles-downey

- Action Learning https://www.actionlearningcentre.com/about-action-learning

- Ashridge qualifications https://www.hult.edu/ashridge/qualifications/

- The Artist's Way by Julia Cameron https://juliacameronlive.com/books-by-julia/

- Robert Holden https://www.robertholden.com/about-robert/

- Julia Cameron's book about writing and prayer https://juliacameronlive.com/books-by-julia/seeking-wisdom-a-spiritual-path-to-creative-connection/

- The ladder of inference https://www.mindtools.com/pages/article/newTMC_91.htm#:~:text=The%20Ladder%20of%20Inference%20describes,are%20shown%20in%20figure%201

- Coaching for Performance by John Whitmore https://www.performanceconsultants.com/coaching-for-performance-book

- The Inner Game of Tennis https://theinnergame.com/inner-game-books/the-inner-game-of-tennis/

- Mike Toller on The Coach's Journey https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-32-mike-toller

- Bounce by Matthew Syed https://www.matthewsyed.co.uk/resource/bounce-the-myth-of-talent-and-the-power-of-practice/

- BetterUp https://www.betterup.com/en-gb/

- Ezra https://www.helloezra.com/

- ICF core competencies https://coachingfederation.org/core-competencies

- The Happiness Trap by Russ Harris https://thehappinesstrap.com/

- Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT) https://www.goodtherapy.org/learn-about-therapy/types/acceptance-commitment-therapy

- ACT for Beginners https://psychwire.com/harris/act-beginners

Conor McCarthy is the host of the First 10 Podcast, where he interviews business builders on their first 10 customers, sparking valuable conversations about how fledgling businesses grow their first roots.

By inviting me onto the podcast, Conor offered me the chance to reflect on how my coaching practice began and how it evolved as a business, from my very first tentative steps through to where I am today.

In the interview I talk about my own false starts and training pathways, and describe the mountain of resistance I had to overcome in order to make connections with the world as a new coach.

Conor is an expert in exploring the subject of how freelancers, bootstrappers and founders start to grow their businesses, and he helped me to retrace my steps while coaxing out key insights from my journey into coaching.

In this episode, we talk about:

How to find your first clients by borrowing successful pitches from others

Earning trust with a wider audience

Experimenting with coaching formats in a low-risk way

Feeling resistance and using it as a signpost for your next steps

How to use honesty to plant seeds for the long term

We also talk about pricing and what it means to get comfortable talking about money.

For more information about Conor, visit https://www.conormccarthy.me/ and to hear other episodes of the First 10 Podcast visit https://www.conormccarthy.me/podcast

For information about my wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswale.com, and to buy my book, click here.

Join the WBECS Free Pre-Summit: https://share.coaching.com/6d3qN2

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community

Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):

- The Interview Valet Top 20 Great Podcasts for Coaches (including this show!): https://interviewvalet.com/20-great-podcasts-for-coaches/

- Akimbo https://www.akimbo.com/

- Phil Bolton, co-founder of The Coaching School https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-2-phil-bolton-from-forensic-accountant-to-the-go-to-career-coach-in-london-and-on-to-work-with-ceos-mds-and-founders

- The War of Art by Steven Pressfield https://stevenpressfield.com/books/the-war-of-art/

- Coaches Rising https://www.coachesrising.com/

- Carolyn Freyer-Jones https://carolynfreyerjones.com/

- The initial Facebook post I shared about coaching. https://thecoachsjourney.com/s/Initial-Facebook-Post-About-Coaching-Robbie-Swale.jpg

Last year I was totally delighted to appear on a podcast called The Coach's Compass, giving me an opportunity to dive deep into all things coaching with host Clark Luby.

In the episode, Clark - a listener to The Coach’s Journey - turns my favourite starter question back on me by asking me to recall when I first came across coaching, and that takes me back to a crucial juncture in my life and career.

From there, we talk through the support structures and containers that helped me through early coaching challenges such as finding clients and talking about money, and I offer up some practical tools that can help you to establish the kind of coach you really want to be, factoring in the styles of coaching you admire and personalities you aspire to emulate.

We also explore the importance of Rich Litvin's work to the evolution of coaching and to my own practice, and I share one of the exercises he taught me that led me to do some of my best work.

In this episode, we talk about:

The shift that happens after your first attempt at being an adult

Making the process of your work something that you really enjoy

Being a player in the game of your business

The point at which coaching businesses start to carry themselves forward

How to stay authentic while taking influence from other coaches

Why I think it's okay to steal from people*

We also talk about the best times to break the rules of coaching, or the rules of anything for that matter!

To hear other episodes of the Coach’s Compass Podcast, visit https://thecoachscompass.libsyn.com/

For information about my wider work and writing, visit www.robbieswale.com, and to buy my book, click here.

Join the WBECS Free Pre-Summit: https://share.coaching.com/6d3qN2

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community. Thanks in particular to Alex McIntyre, Alex Swallow, Joey Owen, Ken Broeren, Neil Mackinnon and Ruth Saville for their ongoing support.

*In very specific situations

Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):

- Coaches Rising https://www.coachesrising.com/

- Ewan Townhead https://www.ewantownhead.com/coaching/

- Waking Up The Workplace http://www.wakinguptheworkplace.com/
- Brett Thomas https://www.linkedin.com/in/consciousbusinesscoach/

- The Prosperous Coach by Steve Chandler and Rich Litvin https://www.amazon.ca/Prosperous-Coach-Increase-Income-Clients/

- Rich Litvin with Simon Crowe on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fB80UWOW8NM

- John Mackey https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Mackey_(businessman)

- David Allen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Allen_(author)

- Miles Downey episode on The Coach's Journey https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-31-myles-downey

- Tony Robbins, I Am Not Your Guru https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUHMZf3qwsQ

- Brené Brown on perfectionism https://www.shinecoachingandconsulting.com/post/recovering-perfectionist-aspiring-good-enoughist

- Gay Hendricks and the zone of genius https://www.thejoyofbusiness.co.uk/how/how-to-find-your-zone-of-genius/

- The Heart of Laser Focused Coaching by Marion Franklin https://www.amazon.ca/HeART-Laser-Focused-Coaching-Revolutionary-Masterful/

- Chris Joseph on episode #19 of The Coach's Journey https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-19-chris-joseph
- Fred Kofman https://www.fredkofman.org/sobre-fred-kofman-ing.php

- Conscious Business by Fred Kofman https://www.amazon.ca/Conscious-Business-Build-through-Values/

- BetterUp https://www.betterup.com/

- Warren Buffett's "2 List" strategy https://jamesclear.com/buffett-focus

- Joel Monk https://www.thnk.org/community/people/joel-monk/

- Phil Goddard, The Coaching Life episode #69 https://www.philg.com/CoachingLifePodcast/?post=069-phil-goddard

- The Social Dilemma https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaaC57tcci0

"Working online is not the future; it's today."

These words from John Monks, the co-founder of facilitation and coaching practice Curve, will resonate powerfully with many listeners of episode #39 of The Coach’s Journey Podcast who, like John, have been bringing people together in an era of change.

John, who along with Lizzie Shupak wrote Closer Apart, the definitive guide to running online workshops, wants the world to understand the problem-solving power of online facilitation, and to believe anything is possible in that setting.

John’s career has been driven by one question: how do people work together?

That question led to the foundation of Curve, and an ambition to work with the most senior people in the largest organisations in the world.

In our conversation, he describes how he and his co-founders achieved that ambition while still showing up as themselves, in order to truly connect with the people they encounter in their workshops.

 In this episode, we talk about:

How to read the room when you're working online

The energy journey that workshop participants make, and how to manage it

How to ensure equal share of voice and unlock successful outcomes in workshops

The power of team coaching to unlock blockages in communication

How leaders can generate the feelings they need in order to lead effectively

We also talk about how to bring unusual ideas into large-scale organisations with confidence and clarity.

To learn more about John, visit https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnmonkscurve/

For information about my wider work, my writing or to buy my books, visit www.robbieswale.com.

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community.

Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):

- Robbie’s new book, How to Keep Going When You Want to Give Up: https://geni.us/justdoit

- The Coach’s Journey episode #28 with Inga Umblija https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-28-inga-umblija-phil-bolton-abundance-formula

- The Coach’s Journey episode #32 with Mike Toller https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-32-mike-toller

- The Coach’s Journey episode #6 with Joel Monk https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-6-joel-monk-conversations-at-the-cutting-edge-of-coaching

- Robbie's article about Kronos and Kairos https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/sometimes-moment-arrives-when-does-question-we-ready-robbie-swale/

- THNK School of Creative Leadership https://www.thnk.org/

- PA Consulting https://www.paconsulting.com/

- The Academy of Executive Coaching https://www.aoec.com/

- Curve https://www.curve.cc/

- Peter Mandeno https://www.thnk.org/community/people/peter-mandeno/

- Lizzie Shupak https://www.linkedin.com/in/lizzieshupak

- Closer Apart https://www.closerapartbook.com/

- Kate Carruth https://www.linkedin.com/in/kate-carruth-7399bb17a/

- Social Physics by Alex Pentland https://www.blinkist.com/en/books/social-physics-en

- The Coach’s Journey episode #34 with Anne Hathaway https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-34-anne-hathaway

- The Coach’s Journey episode #31 with Miles Downey https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-31-myles-downey

- John's study about how leaders feel https://hbr.org/2021/08/leaders-dont-be-afraid-to-talk-about-your-fears-and-anxieties

- Robbie's article entitled I Am What I Am https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/i-am-what-robbie-swale/

- John’s facilitation belt: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/s/belt-picture.jpeg and https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/s/belt-picture-2.jpeg

When Lucy Ball found herself throwing golf balls into buckets at Deloitte in the mid-90s, she became caught up in the first sparks of the corporate coaching boom that would sweep through countless industries in the decades that followed.

In our conversation, she describes how the people she met during that time – such as GROW-model creator Sir John Whitmore – offered a new leadership pathway, which involved a departure from dictative models and allowed coachees to lead their own development.

While Lucy was director of the international leadership consultancy, Ideas Unlimited, she began to transition into high-performance coaching. She describes how, by facing fears of going it alone without backup and facilitating teams of “heavy hitting people”, she found a sense of power and influence while shaking off her inner critic and her need to be rescued.

A self-described “magpie" in her twenties, Lucy now focuses her attention on Lucy Ball Consulting, where she applies her skills as an accredited Master Coach and Gestalt practitioner while working with clients such as NatWest, PepsiCo, HSBC, UK Sport, M&C Saatchi Group, BUPA and the NHS.

Lucy is training to be a psychotherapist and finding ways to channel her work more altruistically, with people who might not have access to sizeable training budgets. She is also finding agency and empowerment through her passionate climate activism.

 In this episode, we talk about:

How to get comfortable talking about being a coach

The benefits and pitfalls of coaching accreditation programmes

Knowing when to partner up and the power of taking people with you

What happens when you choose a modality and "go deep"

Going "back to the source" of counselling and psychotherapy

Pairs coaching and the new lens it can offer leaders

We also talk about finding community and the joy that can be unlocked when people work together on big problems.

To learn more about Lucy, visit https://www.lucyballconsulting.com

For information about my wider work, my writing or to buy my books, visit www.robbieswale.com.

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community.

Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):

- The Inner Game of Tennis by Timothy Gallwey https://theinnergame.com/inner-game-books/the-inner-game-of-tennis/

- David Hemery https://www.performanceconsultants.com/david-hemery

- Sir John Whitmore's GROW model https://www.performanceconsultants.com/grow-model

- Myles Downey https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-31-myles-downey

- Tricia Bey https://www.dundee.ac.uk/people/tricia-bey

- Myers Briggs training https://eu.themyersbriggs.com/en/Training/MBTI-training

- The Coaching Academy https://www.the-coaching-academy.com/

- APECS https://www.apecs.org/

- Jean Balfour https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-36-jean-balfour

- Ideas Unlimited http://www.ideasunlimited.com/

- Dick Robertson http://www.ideasunlimited.com/portfolio-item/dick-robertson/

- Clore Leadership https://www.cloreleadership.org/

- Jo Hunter, CEO and co-founder of 64 Million Artists https://64millionartists.com/team/jo-hunter/

- Gestalt Cycle of Experience http://www.clevelandconsultinggroup.com/articles/gestalt-cycle-of-experience.php

- Mike Toller https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-32-mike-toller

- The Gestalt Centre https://gestaltcentre.org.uk/

- WPF Therapy https://wpf.org.uk/

- The Cape Cod Model https://www.gisc.org/introduction-to-the-cape-cod-model

- Michael Jacobs, texts on counselling and psychotherapy https://www.karnacbooks.com/Author.asp?AID=5130

- Executive Pairs https://www.executivepairs.com/

- The Amazing Development of Men – Expanded Second Edition https://www.alisonarmstrong.com/products/amazing2ndedition.html

- Harthill Leadership Development Framework https://www.harthill.co.uk/leadership-development-framework

- Terri O'Fallon https://www.terriofallon.com/

Robert Stephenson no longer carries trinkets in his pockets. His need to wear crystals that represent his spirituality has lessened. This, he says, is because he has come to embody the meaning of those items in his very being.

This shift has characterised an important period in Robert's life, in which he has departed from his role as director of Animas Centre for Coaching and launched his own coaching business, Fan the Flames Ltd.

Robert talks about openly and honestly about why he left Animas and the impact this change has had on him, and he describes how he has truly stepped into his power since his first appearance on The Coach's Journey Podcast in July 2021. Back then, Animas provided a framework – or scaffolding – for Robert's work. So what happened when that scaffolding was no longer present?

Our conversation explores Robert's transformation in depth, offering valuable lessons about how to manage change and how to grasp opportunities that arise when our circumstances change.

Robert explains how he made decisions led by intuition, discovered through play, or inspired by dreams, as he took ownership of his future while embracing his "nowness".

 In this episode, we talk about:

Recognising change in ourselves

What are the stabilisers we use in our lives? And can we take them off?

Embracing endings and managing change

Listening to our bodies and accessing our deeper knowledge

How to move "from loss to legacy"

Robert also talks about the courage it takes to remove the masks we wear in our lives and careers, and the new ways people relate to us when we show up as ourselves.

To learn more about Robert, visit https://www.linkedin.com/in/robert-stephenson-2491a21/ or listen to his first appearance on the podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-27-robert-stephenson-animas-how-to-say-yes-and-become-a-conduit-for-change

For information about my wider work, my writing or to buy my books, visit www.robbieswale.com.

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community.

Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):

- Robert’s previous appearance on The Coach’s Journey Podcast: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-27-robert-stephenson-animas-how-to-say-yes-and-become-a-conduit-for-change

- The Hero's Journey, by Joseph Campbell https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hero's_Journey_(book)

- Founder of Animas Nick Bolton https://www.animascoaching.com/about-animas/our-team/nick-bolton/

- Johan van Bavel – https://www.linkedin.com/in/johan-van-bavel-mcc-4826b34/

- Claire Mitchell https://claire.simplero.com/

- Coaching Inside and Out https://coachinginsideandout.org.uk/

- Jenny Bird https://www.coachsupervisor.co.uk/

- Todd Roache https://www.toddroache.com/

- Natasha Harris https://mindbodysoulenergy.co.uk/

- Claire Dale https://www.companiesinmotion.com/claire-dale

- Robert Holden https://www.robertholden.com/

- Poem by Ingrid Goff Madoff - https://www.facebook.com/hollieholdenlove/photos/what-do-you-do-when-you-are-stuck-do-you-know-to-go-inside-to-ask-for-inner-guid/1417314465052422/

- Isik Tlabar https://www.isiktlabar.com/

- Kate Lander https://www.ivyhouse.co.uk/team/kate-lander/

- Extraordinary, by Elke Edwards https://www.ivyhouse.co.uk/thebook/

- Three Principles https://changeinaction.com/3-principles-based-coaching/

- Elaine Rémy https://viesjamaicanrumcakes.co.uk/coaching-cake/

- Andy Cahill's podcast, The Wonder Dome https://mindfulcreative.coach/the-wonder-dome

- Information about Robert’s group programme https://www.linkedin.com/posts/robert-stephenson-2491a21_fantheflamescoaching-fantheflamesgroupciaching-activity-6961262939651637248-9gQS?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop

Jennifer Garvey Berger has a new book out, called Unleash Your Complexity Genius.

It is the fourth published work by the co-founder and CEO of Cultivating Leadership, and when she says that her books are getting shorter there is a sense that it's because she's honing in on the rich essence of her life's work.

In this episode of The Coach's Journey Podcast, Jennifer and I share a conversation that traverses adult developmental theory, complexity, vulnerability, and the transformative power of community and of "fierce friendship". We explore the junctures of growth that often appear as binary choices, and how the way forward tends to spring from a more balanced or holistic approach.

Jennifer pulls these strands together into something of a manifesto for the power of connection between coaches, leaders and people who together can hold uncertainty, and support each other to dream bigger and create a future filled with possibility – even as the world around us changes beyond recognition.

 In this episode, we talk about:

The necessary terror of change

Developmental theory

The trap we fall into when comparing ourselves to others

The simplicity on the far side of complexity

Polished and unpolished vulnerability, and how to create more love in organisations

Jennifer also shares personal reflections on growth, and the inspiring story of how she came to live and work with her friends in a shared house in France.

To learn more about Jennifer, visit https://www.cultivatingleadership.com/team-member/jennifer-garvey-berger or https://twitter.com/jgberger.

For information about my wider work, my writing or to buy my books, visit www.robbieswale.com.

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community.

Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):

- Unleash Your Complexity Genius by Carolyn Coughlin and Jennifer Garvey Berger https://www.cultivatingleadership.com/book/__trashed

- Jennifer's other books https://www.cultivatingleadership.com/books

- Joel Monk on the Coach's Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-6-joel-monk-conversations-at-the-cutting-edge-of-coaching

- Art of Developmental Coaching with Coaches Rising https://www.coachesrising.com/artofdevelopmentalcoaching/

- A preview of the book that Robbie mentions, that isn’t out yet, The Power to Choose https://www.robbieswale.com/writing/2020/3/23/why-am-i-sharing-parts-of-my-forthcoming-book-the-power-to-choose

- Robbie's 12-minute series of books https://www.robbieswale.com/the-12minute-books

- Catherine Fitzgerald https://changeelemental.org/people/catherine-fitzgerald/

- Executive Coaching, by Catherine Fitzgerald https://www.amazon.co.uk/Executive-Coaching-Practices-Perspectives/dp/0891061614

- Robert Kegan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Kegan

- In Over Our Heads, by Robert Kegan https://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?isbn=9780674445888

- Dave Snowden and Cognitive Edge https://thecynefin.co/

- Jean Piaget https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Piaget

- Cathy Presland on The Coach's Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-17-cathy-presland-government-advisor-to-three-principles-coach

- Brené Brown https://brenebrown.com/

- Amy Edmondson https://amycedmondson.com/

- The article about Jennifer's dream of moving to France: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/dreaming-good-company-jennifer-garvey-berger/

- Wendy Bittner http://www.cultivatingleadership.com/team-member/wendy-bittner

- Nicole Brigandi https://www.nicolebrigandicoaching.com/

How can we be free to do the work we love?

This is the fundamental question at the heart of my conversation with coach, community builder and eternal adventurer Allegra Stein, who is navigating a crucial turning point in her multifaceted career.

Following on from our first conversation on the podcast, in this episode Allegra and I tackle an issue faced by coaches at all levels: how to stay creative and uphold your values while carving out a viable business.

After more than a decade in which she has gone against the grain of the coaching industry and developed her own maverick approach, Allegra is seeking the freedom to coach without the burden of business.

The insights she shares as we reflect on her journey and look to the future will resonate with anyone who has found themselves craving more creative freedom or wrestling with the challenges of entrepreneurship.

As a high relater who loves to contribute to what’s possible, Allegra is brimming with energy and ideas as she anticipates a new chapter of her career and steps bravely towards it.

 In this episode, we talk about:

The difficulty of being creative under pressure

The benefits of a strengths-based approach

Why offering something for free might not be helpful

Whether entrepreneurship is for everyone, and how to tell if it’s for you

The difference between running a food truck and being a chef

Allegra focuses much of her attention towards mentoring new coaches, and shares her experience of forming an energising new partnership that has transformed her approach to that work.

To learn more about Allegra, visit https://www.allegrastein.com/

For information about my wider work, my writing or to buy my books, visit www.robbieswale.com.

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community.

Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):

- The previous episode featuring Allegra https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-22-allegra-stein-how-to-flourish-as-a-coaching-misfit

- Gay Hendricks and the zones of excellence and genius https://www.thejoyofbusiness.co.uk/how/how-to-find-your-zone-of-genius/

- B-School https://marieforleobschool.com/

- The Prosperous Coach by Steve Chandler and Rich Litvin https://richlitvin.com/the-prosperous-coach/

- YouMap https://www.myyoumap.com/

- Mighty Networks https://www.mightynetworks.com/

- Patreon https://www.patreon.com/

- BetterUp https://www.betterup.com/en-gb/

- Robbie’s article on the six cycles of an entrepreneur https://www.robbieswale.com/the-12-minute-blog/2022/8/11/6-cycles-of-an-entrepreneur

- Katie Harvey on The Coach’s Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-1-katie-harvey-14000-hours-of-coaching-being-part-of-the-uk-coaching-vanguard-and-being-a-generalist-coach

- The CliftonStrengths Online Talent Assesment https://www.gallup.com/cliftonstrengths/en/252137/home.aspx

- Tim Ferriss and Debbie Millman https://tim.blog/2017/01/12/how-to-design-a-life-debbie-millman/

- Mike Toller https://birkbeckcounsellingassociation.org/therapist/michael-toller-counselling-psychotherapy/

- Nicole Brigandi https://www.nicolebrigandicoaching.com/

- Gallup https://www.gallup.com/home.aspx

- Joyce Campbell http://charisnlp.co.uk/

Claire Pedrick was speaking at the ICF Conference in 2019 when a publisher approached her and said: “Have you got a book in you?”

That book is Simplifying Coaching, and in it Claire offers a rallying cry for filtering out the noise of the coaching industry and honing in on the very human essence of transformative conversations.

In this episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, Claire traces the steps that led her into a burgeoning coaching landscape around the turn of the century and reflects on the precious lessons learned from moments that sometimes felt like missteps.

She shines a light on the “guru-ing” and “pedestal-ing” that can lead to problematic power dynamics in coaching, and shares the foundational values such as equity and fairness that underpin the success of 3D Coaching and saw her recognised with the 2022 Outstanding Contribution to Coaching Award from Henley Business School.

Claire is a master of the art of communicating complicated things simply, but admits it took a long time to have the confidence to cut through complexity and offer straightforward truths when coaching or mentoring coaches.

Listening to her speak, you cannot fail to appreciate the fundamental importance of her approach, which is explained with refreshing clarity.

 In this episode, we talk about:

Whether we have to be the things we want to develop in people

The impact of modelling the boundaries we set

The holy ground in the coaching space and how to interact with it

Being wise about how many coffees to have with someone and still call it work

Learning how to be silent and how to wait while coaching clients are doing good work

Claire also talks about how to value your time, how to balance delivery and business development, and the importance of – as coaches – telling the truth about ourselves.

To learn more about Claire, visit https://www.linkedin.com/in/clairepedrick/

For information about my wider work, my writing or to buy my books, visit www.robbieswale.com.

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community.

Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):

- Robbie’s upcoming event, How to Be More Productive (and why time management won’t help you): https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/how-to-be-more-productive-and-why-time-management-wont-help-you-tickets-470005598397

- Claire’s podcast, The Coaching Inn https://thecoachinginn.podbean.com/

- Sarah Cartwright https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarah-cartwright-28659815/

-  Claire’s book, Simplifying Coaching https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/56199938-simplifying-coaching

- Alex Swallow http://alexswallow.com/about/

- Robbie’s 100 podcast challenge https://www.robbieswale.com/writing/2022/2/4/the-12-minute-method-100-podcasts-challenge

- Transforming Conversations https://www.3dcoaching.com/transforming-conversations/

- Outliers by Malcolm Gladwell https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3228917-outliers

- Ed Watson https://www.linkedin.com/in/ed-watson-training

- Good Housekeeping https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/

- Thomas Leonard https://coachville.com/connect/founder-thomas-leonard/

- Coach U https://www.coachu.com/home/

- 3D Coaching https://www.3dcoaching.com/

- Moneypenny https://www.moneypenny.com/uk/

- Four Thousand Weeks: Time Management for Mortals, by Oliver Burkeman https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/54785515-four-thousand-weeks

- Phil Bolton and Inga Umblija on The Coach’s Journey podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-28-inga-umblija-phil-bolton-abundance-formula

- Barry Ennis on The Coach’s Journey podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-9-barry-ennis-follow-the-fire

- Reid Hoffman https://www.reidhoffman.org/

- Robbie appearing on The Coaching Inn https://thecoachinginn.podbean.com/e/in-conversation-with-robbie-swale-how-to-start-when-you-re-stuck/

- Vegard Olsen coachingpartner.net

- Tony Robbins https://www.tonyrobbins.com/

- ILM https://www.i-l-m.com/

- John Blakey https://johnblakey.co.uk/

In this episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, I invited a true master of the art of listening to interview me about my own journey and the transformations that have happened – and continue to happen – along the way.

Raquel Ark, the founder of listening ALCHEMY, deftly opens up a conversation in which I share what it was like to realise that my life was not what I wanted it to be, and how the pain of that realisation prompted me to look at uncomfortable things.

I now know that an experience being uncomfortable does not make it the wrong thing to do – and often, the opposite is true.

Raquel makes space for me to talk about how I discovered what is unusual and different about me, and how these things made me well suited to coaching.

Our conversation hones in on the transformational power of being true to yourself, being aligned with your values, and letting that inform the outcomes that emerge.

 In this episode, we talk about:

How Agile methodology guided a transformation in my life and career

Getting ourselves off the hook of the outcome

How to feed our energy, and not drain it

The people who see our potential and help us reach it

Leading with honour and putting all of you into your work

How to be successful without compromising your values

I also talk about the meaning behind my resistance to partnerships in a conversation that allows me to simultaneously discover and share insights into my development as a person and as a practitioner.

To learn more about me, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/, and to learn more about Raquel, visit https://listeningalchemy.com/

For information about my wider work, my writing or to buy my books, visit www.robbieswale.com.

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community.

Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):

- Robbie’s 100 Podcasts Challenge https://www.robbieswale.com/writing/2022/2/4/the-12-minute-method-100-podcasts-challenge

- Robbie on Raquel’s Listening Superpower Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/self-listening-as-a-powerful-tool-to-help-you-get/id1457489060?i=1000578499986

- Episode #33 with Raquel https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-33-raquel-ark

- Waking up the Workplace http://www.wakinguptheworkplace.com/

- Robbie’s train series https://www.robbieswale.com/the-12-minute-blog/2021/11/23/the-train-series-1-stories

- Robert Holden https://www.robertholden.com/

- Robbie’s 12-Minute books https://www.robbieswale.com/the-12minute-books

- Miranda Kaufmann http://www.mirandakaufmann.com/

- Jordan Hall and the two types of time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=933qDMh1J3g

- Career Shifters https://www.careershifters.org/

- Natasha Stanley https://www.careershifters.org/author/natasha-stanley

- Richard Alderson on the lean career change https://www.careershifters.org/expert-advice/the-lean-career-change-how-to-reduce-the-risk-and-increase-the-speed-of-your-shift

- Joel Monk https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-6-joel-monk-conversations-at-the-cutting-edge-of-coaching

- Agile methodology https://www.wrike.com/project-management-guide/faq/what-is-agile-methodology-in-project-management/

- Phil Bolton https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-2-phil-bolton-from-forensic-accountant-to-the-go-to-career-coach-in-london-and-on-to-work-with-ceos-mds-and-founders

- The Coach’s Journey Community https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/community

- Robbie’s former teacher, Mr Leeming https://www.cravenherald.co.uk/news/4491805.farewell-to-mr-leeming-and-the-travelling-teddies/

- Jo Hunter, co-founder and CEO of 64 Million Artists https://64millionartists.com/team/jo-hunter/

- Rachel Feldberg https://www.ilkleyliteraturefestival.org.uk/posts/home/rachel-feldberg-step-artistic-director-ilkley-literature-festival

- Vegard Olsen https://www.linkedin.com/in/vegard-olsen-2944591

- The War of Art by Steven Pressfield https://stevenpressfield.com/books/the-war-of-art/

- Rich Litvin https://richlitvin.com/

- Robbie’s blog, The Wisdom of David Gemmell http://www.wisdomofgemmell.com/author/robbie/

- Fred Kofman https://www.fredkofman.org/sobre-fred-kofman-ing.php

- Robbie on Raquel’s Listen In podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/om/podcast/self-listening-as-a-powerful-tool-to-help-you-get/id1457489060?i=1000578499986

- Robert Holden on dysfunctional independence https://www.robertholden.com/blog/dysfunctionally-independent/

- Enneagram Type 6 https://www.enneagraminstitute.com/type-6

- Mike Toller https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-32-mike-toller

- The Prosperous Coach salon https://richlitvin.com/the-salon-is-no-more/

- Katie Harvey https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-1-katie-harvey-14000-hours-of-coaching-being-part-of-the-uk-coaching-vanguard-and-being-a-generalist-coach

- Dan Sullivan on courage https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBlJ5HbFpYQ

- The 12-Minute Method Podcast https://anchor.fm/12-minute-method

- Unleash Your Complexity Genius by Jennifer Garvey Berger and Carolyn Coughlin https://www.sup.org/books/title/?id=34941

Henrietta Nelson has always been interested in people’s minds.

She describes how, during a decade spent working as a solicitor specialising in insurance litigation, she would study her colleagues’ faces, observing their drives and motivations.

After a friend recommended a two-day course at The Coaching Academy, Henrietta felt the pieces begin to fall into place.

Becoming a coach has given Henrietta fresh perspective. In this episode she talks about facing down feelings of impatience, and shaking off the sense that life is happening elsewhere.

We discuss the beauty and the difficulty of becoming free to choose how we work as coaches. As a lawyer, nobody wanted Henrietta to indulge in experiments, but as a coach she works creative wonders with her clients. 

If you’re dealing with self-doubt, caught up in comparisons, or in need of a reminder that the journey you’re on is valid, full of potential and uniquely yours, Henrietta’s reflections on her arrival at a place filled with meaning might be just what you need to hear.

 In this episode, we talk about:

The inside-out phenomenon, and how our thinking about the outside world impacts us

Dealing with perceived rejection and early setbacks

Letting go of getting everything right, and of linear trajectories

Coping with anxiety in order to find inspiration

The balancing act required when coaching part-time or navigating the demands of family life

Henrietta also shares what she gleaned as a listener to this podcast, offering valuable reflections on particular episodes and insights that stood out for her.

To learn more about me, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/, and to learn more about Henrietta, visit https://henriettanelsoncoaching.com/

For information about my wider work, my writing or to buy my books, visit www.robbieswale.com.

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community.

Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):

- Catriona Horey, who appears in episode #4 https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-4-catriona-horey-too-far-away-from-the-joy

- Barry Ennis, who appears in episode #9 https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-9-barry-ennis-follow-the-fire

- Lucy Ball, who appears in episode #40 https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-40-lucy-ball-how-to-be-what-you-teach

- Robbie’s books https://www.robbieswale.com/the-12minute-books 

- The Coaching Academy https://www.the-coaching-academy.com/

- Influence by Robert B. Cialdini https://medium.com/power-books/influence-the-psychology-of-persuasion-a-book-summary-7ae0ebf8950f

- Jamie Smart, who appears in episode #16 https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-16-jamie-smart

- Allegra Stein, who appears in episodes #22 and #43 https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-43-allegra-stein-when-is-it-time-to-quit-the-business-of-coaching

- Jamie Smart’s Career Transition Blueprint https://www.jamiesmart.com/career/

- Three Principles coaching https://changeinaction.com/3-principles-based-coaching/

- Jamie Smart’s Clarity Certification Training https://www.jamiesmart.com/cct

- Robbie’s testimonials https://www.robbieswale.com/work-with-me

- Dr. Keith Blevens http://www.consciousleadershipschool.com/facultys/dr-keith-blevens-tst/

-The Inside Out Revolution by Michael Neil https://www.michaelneill.org/insideoutrevolution/

- Man’s Search For Meaning by Viktor Frankl https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4069.Man_s_Search_for_Meaning

- Terri Rubenstein at iheart https://iheartprinciples.com/author/terry-rubenstein/

- Jonathan Haidt on the Tim Ferriss show https://tim.blog/2022/12/21/jonathan-haidt/

- Phil Goddard, who appears in episode #30 https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-30-phil-goddard

- Claire Pedrick, who appears in episode #44 https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-44-claire-pedrick-cutting-through-complexity-and-simplifying-coaching

- Jennifer Garvey Berger, who appears in episode #42 https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-42-jennifer-garvey-berger-the-answer-to-either-or-is-both

- Steve Chandler https://www.stevechandler.com/index.html

- How to Get the Most Out of Coaching by Karen Davis and Alex Mill https://karendaviscoaching.com/book/

Lindsey Lewis was a sensitive child. “The one crying about the bird that fell out of the nest,” as she puts it.

Her intimate connection to living things was a challenge early in her life, but in this episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast she describes how she harnessed the power of her sensitivity to become a passionate, brave and creative coach.

Throughout her life as a magazine editor, communications consultant and now as the owner of a thriving coaching business, she has always taught and practiced yoga. She explains the importance of physical bodily awareness to the phenomenal energy she beckons into her coaching sessions.

The power of an invitation is a key theme in this episode, and Lindsey explains how she learned to instigate and lead interactions that recognise and reflect the value of what she has to offer her clients.

Our conversation comes at an exciting time and Lindsey discusses her work on a documentary that will showcase the work of brilliant people seeking to make positive change in the world – something she is well-placed to promote.

 In this episode, we talk about:

Easeful conversations

Being ‘on path’ and what that can do for our health and our work

How to create timely invitations to engage

The terrifying, transformative thrill of group experiences

How the way we do one thing is the way we do everything

Lindsey has a wonderful way of describing the call to adventure, and how to overcome resistance to those ideas that just won’t leave us alone.

She also outlines what she has learned about the skills that every coach needs to build a successful coaching business:

Being her professional self

Invitations

Initial conversations

Proposals

Navigating what comes after the proposals

She generously shares practical tips and advice on each one.

To learn more about me, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/, and to learn more about Lindsey, visit https://imlindseylewis.com/coaching/

For information about my wider work, my writing or to buy my books, visit www.robbieswale.com.

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community.

Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):

- Robert Holden’s workshops https://www.robertholden.com/events/

- Martha Beck https://marthabeck.com/

- Rich Litvin https://richlitvin.com/

- Amber Krysz https://amberkrzys.com/

- Steve Chandler https://www.stevechandler.com/index.html

- Carolyn Freyer-Jones https://carolynfreyerjones.com/

- The Prosperous Coach https://richlitvin.com/prosperous-coach-2-0/

- The Coach’s Journey Community https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/community

- Joseph Campbell https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Campbell

- Finding Joe documentary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8nFACrLxr0

- Clear Self vs Clouded Self https://imlindseylewis.com/resources/

ABOUT LINDSEY LEWIS

Lindsey Lewis is a professional life and business coach. In the business arena, she works primarily with small businesses run by caring, passionate people who want to create more freedom and income. She also mentors and supports coaches wanting to grow their practice and income.

She has appeared on Roundhouse Radio, Breakfast Television, the cover of WHERE Magazine; has been a featured speaker at Green College at The University of British Columbia, Rhodes College and Simon Fraser University; plus businesses and organisations including SAP Labs Canada, The City of Coquitlam, The Vancouver Business Network, Grace Club Vancouver and CPHR BC and FuturPreneur Canada.

Her work initially focused on supporting people with handling stress, and increasing happiness. Over the years, it has evolved into a mission to help create a world where each person experiences and shares their own inner strength, capabilities, and true gifts – in their work and in their life.

Bill Small’s voice is a powerful creative tool that has been creating songs and conversations throughout his life as a professional musician, entrepreneur and business coach.

In this episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, Bill describes the challenge of blending his passions for music and conversation in order to create the life he wanted, highlighting key shifts in his mindset that enabled a balance to emerge.

During 35 years of performing and playing music and 20 years helping small business owners to thrive, Bill has accrued some wonderful stories and a huge amount of wisdom, not least through his experience of two of the biggest movements in personal development: The Landmark Forum and the Law of Attraction.

In our deep and searching conversation he reflects on creativity, integrity, personal responsibility, and money.

Alongside his work as a coach and as a musician, Bill is the co-host of The Subtle Art of Not Yelling podcast and co-founder of a creative community called The Box, both of which serve to help people chunk down their projects and get out of their own way in order to finish what they’ve made.

 In this episode, we talk about:

Important versus interesting, and how we choose between them

Why finishing our creative projects matters

The comparison sticks we beat ourselves with

How to show up as everything we are, instead of our divided selves

Integrity, and what it means to honour your word as yourself

Finishing his work is something Bill has committed to in order to honour the creative process, and hearing him speak about how he approaches all aspects of his fiercely creative life is truly inspiring.

To learn more about me, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/, and to learn more about Bill, visit https://www.artistmind.co/.

For information about my wider work, my writing or to buy my books, visit www.robbieswale.com.

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community.

Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):

- Bill’s podcast The Subtle Art of Not Yelling https://subtleartofnotyelling.com/

- Toku McCree on The Coach’s Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-15-toku-mccree-sales-with-honour-and-love-on-the-end-of-a-sword

- Toku McCree on the Coaches Rising Podcast https://www.coachesrising.com/podcast/the-path-to-coaching-mastery-and-what-new-coaches-get-wrong-with-toku-mccree/

- The Coaches Rising Podcast https://www.coachesrising.com/podcast/

- Robbie’s 100 podcast challenge https://www.robbieswale.com/writing/2022/2/4/the-12-minute-method-100-podcasts-challenge

- Robbie’s appearance on The Subtle Art of Not Yelling https://subtleartofnotyelling.com/robbie-swale/

- The Tim Ferriss Show https://tim.blog/podcast/

- Steven Pressfield’s appearance on the Tim Ferriss Show https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RhIp9C5OO8

- Julia Donaldson and Axel Scheffler https://www.gruffalo.com/julia-and-axel

- 12-minute article on The Lost Relics of our Art https://www.robbieswale.com/the-12-minute-blog/2021/12/4/the-lost-relics-of-our-art

- Bill’s music https://billsmallmusic.com/

- The Landmark Forum https://www.landmarkworldwide.com/the-landmark-forum

- Walt Wilkins and the Mystiqueros https://www.mystiquero.com/

- Erhard Seminars Training (EST) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erhard_Seminars_Training

- Phil Bolton on The Coach’s Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-2-phil-bolton-from-forensic-accountant-to-the-go-to-career-coach-in-london-and-on-to-work-with-ceos-mds-and-founders

- The Secret https://www.thesecret.tv/the-secret-documentary/

- BetterUp https://www.betterup.com/

- Steve Chandler https://www.stevechandler.com/index.html

- Bob Doyle https://thelawofattraction.com/about-bob-doyle/

- Mastering Your Personal Brand https://www.robbieswale.com/mastering-your-personal-brand

- Miles Hanson https://twitter.com/mileshanso

- The Box https://subtleartofnotyelling.com/box/

- The 12-Minute Method https://www.robbieswale.com/about-the-12-minute-method

Many of us live out our lives while tied to our careers, our homes, our families and our friends. This can be joyous, but for some it is stifling.

Ray Martin lived that life and achieved great success, even being named Daily Telegraph Business Leader of the Year in 2002 as the CEO of a company that developed business leaders.

But when his personal life changed dramatically, he realised his work was not making him happy and he set out on a mission to discover his authentic self.

Now, as the author of Life Without A Tie, Ray tells the story of a journey of exploration that took him to 28 countries and saw him launch a global foundation, become a marathon runner, act in a play and turn himself into a coach whose clients have included more than 100 people across Asia.

In this episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, Ray describes how he learned to serve people who are trapped in a life that others expect of them, and how he allowed his inner voice to return and guide him to a life of possibility, fulfilment, and greater self-awareness.

 In this episode, we talk about:

The confirmation signals we need when making decisions

How acts of service can lead to personal breakthroughs

How we become the actor, scriptwriter and director in our own lives

The shift from materialism to experientialism

The power of intention to deliver the work and life you want

The freedom that comes from feeling less attached to each possibility

Ray shares wisdom about the cycles of desire and craving that don’t always lead us to what we need, and offers sage advice on the tools that can guide us to a place of authenticity.

To learn more about me, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/, and to learn more about Ray, visit https://www.linkedin.com/in/raymartin/ or https://lifewithoutatie.com/.

For information about my wider work, my writing or to buy my books, visit www.robbieswale.com.

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community.

Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):

- Life Without A Tie https://lifewithoutatie.com/

- The Better Bolder Braver Podcast https://betterbolderbraver.com/

- Robert D’Aubigny and Exegesis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exegesis_(group)

- The Landmark Forum https://www.landmarkworldwide.com/the-landmark-forum

- Henrietta Nelson on The Coach’s Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-46-henrietta-nelson-nobody-else-can-put-a-feeling-in-you

- Sydney Banks https://sydneybanks.org/

- Wait But Why https://waitbutwhy.com/homepage

- Stuffocation by James Wallman https://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/jan/07/stuffocation-living-more-with-less-james-wallman-review

- Joseph Campbell and The Hero’s Journey https://www.skillshare.com/en/blog/the-heros-journey-stages-and-structure/

- Bernadette Russell https://www.bernadetterussell.com/

- Undefended Love http://www.undefendedlove.com/

- The Hoffman Process https://www.hoffmaninstitute.co.uk/about-the-process/

- Ray’s blog https://thedailyexplorer.com/blog/

- Asia Pacific Alliance of Coaches https://apacoaches.org/

- Robbie’s appearance on the Leadership Live podcast https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqsdH23Nm4o

- Coach in a Box https://www.linkedin.com/company/coach-in-a-box

- Robert Stephenson on The Coach’s Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-41-robert-stephenson-the-scaffolding-of-change-and-when-to-discard-it

- Steve Biddulph https://www.stevebiddulph.com/

- The Sabbatical Project https://thesabbaticalproject.org/

- The Untethered Soul by Michael A. Singer https://untetheredsoul.com/

- Quote from Marcel Proust https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22270761/

Heart-based leadership is an approach to solving problems, building relationships and creating flow that expert practitioner Marie Reig Florensa uses to transform individuals, teams and organisations.

In this episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, Marie describes how, during 15 years as a producer on live television shows, she became adept at living in the moment and honed her intuition as she navigated the “big live opera” of broadcasting.

Marie shares her journey of self discovery and how she came to recognise the intangible factors – aspirations, emotions, imaginations – that quietly drive our experiences and shape our lives.

She also shares a precious technique that you can start using today to unlock your own ability to lead from the heart, follow your intuition and be at your best.

 In this episode, we talk about:

How we feed our imagination, and thus shape the world

How to harness discomfort and drive yourself forward

The real uniqueness of our own authenticity

Turning to ancient indigenous cultures for insight into human nature

How to follow your curiosity towards beautiful gifts

Marie reflects on the transition from being a creative problem solver to becoming a facilitator of regenerative spaces, describing the principles that lie at the heart of her revolutionary work.

To learn more about me, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/, and to learn more about Marie, visit https://mariereig.com/.

For information about my wider work, my writing or to buy my books, visit www.robbieswale.com.

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community.

Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):

- The Berlin School of Creative Leadership https://www.berlin-school.com/

- Berkley Executive Coaching Institute https://www.berkeleyeci.com/

- Guy Sengstock https://circlinginstitute.com/about/

- The HeartMath Institute https://www.heartmath.org/

- Presence-Based Coaching by Doug Silsbee https://presencebasedcoaching.com/

- The Four-Fold Way by Angeles Arrien https://www.spiritualityandpractice.com/books/reviews/view/7721

- The ‘journal’ section of Marie’s website https://mariereig.com/learn-more-about-heart-based-leadership/

BIOGRAPHY FROM MARIE

Marie Reig Florensa is a humanist, executive coach, and heart-based leadership expert exploring the crossroads of human values, leadership, and creativity. She is on a global discovery quest to better understand and communicate what it truly means to lead from the heart, beyond assumptions and stereotypes.

Marie supports creative leaders, teams, and organisations to fast-track their leadership development, unlocking their "best self" – the self in alignment with their values and soul purpose for positive social impact. She does so by means of tailor-made playful and artistic strategies that unleash genuine human connection, ignite creative genius and awaken self-generative learning. Her heart-based creative leadership coaching methodology is supported by expert practitioners' work, contemporary academic and scientific research, and ancient cross-cultural indigenous and spiritual wisdom.

Marie has more than 20 years of experience working in the creative industries, in mainstream and unconventional projects, teams, and organisations. Her mission is to catalyse human flourishing, demonstrating that every small gesture is a weapon of mass construction and that our lives are our most precious works of art.

Matt Thieleman admits that for many years he “wholeheartedly dismissed” the coaching industry. He also says he denied an important part of himself.

Now, as the author of This Is Coaching and a renowned transformational coach, visionary and featured TEDx speaker on the topic of mindful leadership, Matt is adept at identifying when people and organisations have shut off vital parts of themselves.

In this episode Matt talks frankly about the barriers he had to overcome to allow the hidden parts of himself to be seen, and how experiences like the Samurai Coaching Dojo transformed his own sense of belonging as well as the spaces he creates for his coaching clients.

He shares what becoming CEO of founders coaching organisation Pilea taught him about growing sustainably and building without burnout, and outlines his goals for every business founder in the world to have a coach, for every coach in the world to be world class, and for every human in the world to have the skills of a coach.

 In this episode, we also talk about:

Broken leadership models, and how we can fix them

How to handle difficult feedback and criticism

Harnessing deliberate practice to train and improve as a coach

How we fall into the trap of outsourcing our decision-making capability

The process of pitching, publishing and marketing a book on coaching

Matt shares details about his new pilot group program called Mastering the Coaching Game, which will take the principles of his book deeper and support coaches in applying them to their life and work.

To learn more about me, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/, and to learn more about Matt, visit https://goldenbristle.com/.

For information about my wider work, my writing or to buy my books, visit www.robbieswale.com.

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community.

Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):

- Toku McCree on The Coach’s Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-15-toku-mccree-sales-with-honour-and-love-on-the-end-of-a-sword

- Aaron Caulfield https://www.aaroncaulfield.com/

- Mike Harris https://michaelvharris.com/

- Rich Litvin’s Prosperous Coach Intensives https://richlitvin.com/intensive/

- Pilea coach community https://joinpilea.com/

- Pilea (the plant) https://www.gardenersworld.com/how-to/grow-plants/how-to-grow-pilea-peperomioides/

- Jomar Gomez https://www.facebook.com/jomargomez.coach/

- Chris Joseph on The Coach’s Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-19-chris-joseph

- This Is Coaching by Matt Thieleman https://goldenbristle.com/book

- Blink by Malcolm Gladwell https://www.gladwellbooks.com/titles/malcolm-gladwell/blink/9780316005043/

- Tony Robbins https://www.tonyrobbins.com/

- Wayne Dyer https://www.drwaynedyer.com/

- Dave Ulrich https://www.rbl.net/about-us/consultants/dave-ulrich

- Marshall Goldsmith https://marshallgoldsmith.com/

- Matt’s TEDX talk on mindful leaderships https://www.ted.com/talks/matt_thieleman_why_the_world_needs_mindful_leaders

- The Samurai Coaching Dojo https://tokumccree.medium.com/our-origin-18f2b41e5f0c

- Adam Quiney https://adamquiney.com/

- David Deida https://deida.info/

- The Way of the Superior Man by David Deida https://deida.info/the-way-of-the-superior-man/

- Kari Sulenes https://www.linkedin.com/in/kari-sulenes-3847a350/

BIOGRAPHY FROM MATT

Matt Thieleman is a transformational coach, visionary, speaker, advisor, and author.

Matt works with leaders and change-makers to help them live into their purpose more fully, and bring their masterpieces to the world. He educates and trains coaches to be world-class in their field, and help their clients reach their full potential. You can learn more about him at goldenbristle.com.

Prior to becoming a coach, Matt was in the marketing world, working with clients in practically every industry imaginable. He has been a leadership coach since 2016 and spent 2021 as CEO of Pilea, a coaching organisation for venture-backed founders. After a year of intense growth and hard work, Matt turned his focus back to coaching and other soul work he’s called to bring to the world. It’s simply a continuation of a lifelong mission to heal himself, help others heal, and lead others with authenticity.

He is the author of This is Coaching: How to Transform a Client’s Performance, Life, & Business as a Master Coach & Warrior of Love.

As a self-described introvert, it was a surprise to Susana Gonçalves when she found her calling in coaching.

In our conversation in episode #52 of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, Susana explains how she experienced “an awakening” that led her forward from her background in IT, engineering and finance.

When the organisation she worked for invested in team coaching, Susana witnessed first-hand the evolution of her colleagues as they worked with a coach, inspiring her to invest in her own development and transformation to become a coach.

In this episode Susana shares her experience of rising up through male-dominated industries in the early part of her career, instilling her with a deep belief in the power and importance of diversity within organisations – a belief that shapes her work as a coach.

Now, as an ICF Master Certified Coach with more than 2,500 hours of experience in coaching leaders and executives, she works with clients across the world, from Saudi Arabia to Brazil.

 In this episode, we also talk about:

The art of team coaching and its transformative potential

The impact of mindfulness on a coaching practice

The different ways in which people live and work as coaches

The differences between ICF certifications

Imposter syndrome, and how we manage it

Through her coaching company Meaningful Works, Susana has enabled herself to be location-free, delivering her work from wherever she needs to be in the world, and we discuss the sensitivity and understanding required when working cross-culturally.

To learn more about me, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/, and to learn more about Susana, visit https://www.linkedin.com/in/susana-goncalves.

For information about my wider work, my writing or to buy my books, visit www.robbieswale.com.

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community.

Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):

- ICF coach training https://coachingfederation.org/credentials-and-standards/find-education

- John Monks on The Coach’s Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-39-john-monks-closing-the-circle-and-becoming-closer-apart

- Robbie’s group coaching session on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFBvAVfZrKQ

- Bounce by Matthew Syed https://www.matthewsyed.co.uk/book/bounce-the-myth-of-talent-and-the-power-of-practice/

- Rebel Ideas by Matthew Syed https://www.matthewsyed.co.uk/book/rebel-ideas-the-power-of-diverse-thinking/

- Headspace https://www.headspace.com/

- Insight Timer https://insighttimer.com/en-gb

- MCC certification https://coachingfederation.org/credentials-and-standards/credentials-paths/mcc-credential

- Live coaching sessions by MCC coaches https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgQvPII9BKg

- Janet Harvey https://mccmentorcoach.com/janet-harvey

- Janet Harvey video with commentary on a coaching session https://youtu.be/2C8aIPA82UY

- Centre for Creative Leadership (CCL) https://www.ccl.org/

- ‘Luck is the residue of design’ – John Miltonhttps://scottturman.com/luck-is-the-residue-of-design

- ICF Converge https://coachingfederation.org/events/icf-converge

BIOGRAPHY FROM SUSANA

Susana Gonçalves is an ICF Master Certified Coach with +2,500 hours’ experience coaching leaders and executives globally and a strong background in IT, organisational development and team leadership.

She is a seasoned professional with over two decades of experience in multinational organisation environments with a breadth of cultural influences, including invaluable international experience, bringing a wealth of personal and professional experience to her role as executive coach and team coach. She excels in coaching individuals and navigating the complexities of global and culturally diverse teams, yielding remarkable outcomes.

She is driven by a profound passion for empowering leaders and guiding them to forge their own transformative paths. Through the creation of a safe coaching space, she brings awareness to their aspirational potential, inspiring them to reach new heights.

Imagine being able use your skills, expertise and resources in a way that makes the world a better place, while meeting all of your own needs as well.

It is a bold, brave goal and one that Sarah Fox, founder and CEO of Do Good and Do Well has put at the very centre of her work as an EMCC accredited coach, mentor, teacher, trainer and facilitator.

In this episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, Sarah shares the personal and professional experiences that shaped her vision for a company that helps people to flourish, enhances their wellbeing, and allows them to contribute meaningfully to the change they want to see in the world.

Sarah sheds light on the hardships and injustices that instilled her with the determination to use her gifts to bring about positive change, and describes how the highs and lows of self-employment led her to create Lasting Impact – a programme to help freelancers contribute to the greater good while ensuring they remain financially stable.

Sarah’s journey into coaching – which took her from drama and theatre studies to roles in data entry, education, and the not-for-profit sector – is an inspiring one. The theme of belonging appears throughout her story, along with the values of empathy, care, kindness and courage, which permeate her work.

 In this episode, we also talk about:

Surefire ways to grow your coaching business

How to know when it’s the right time to go freelance

The deep thinking required behind how to set your fees

How we can contribute to the greater good in the world

The importance of cultivating the healthy, wise, Jedi parts of ourselves

Sarah and I also share our approaches to managing the finances of our businesses, explaining the tips and tricks that have empowered us to feel better about money and secure in our work.

To learn more about me, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/, and to learn more about Sarah, visit http://www.sarahfox.co.uk/.

For information about my wider work, my writing or to buy my books, visit www.robbieswale.com.

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community.

Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):

- Robbie’s 100 Podcasts Challenge https://www.robbieswale.com/writing/2022/2/4/the-12-minute-method-100-podcasts-challenge

- Robbie’s appearance on Sarah’s podcast https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/048-a-12-minute-podcast-about-finding-your-voice/id1544267713?i=1000590634149

- Sarah’s blog about coaching 100 people for free https://sarahfox.co.uk/blog-1/goldenmilk-wf7rd

-  WBECS https://www.wbecs.com/

- Marcia Reynolds on The Coach’s Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-14-marcia-reynolds-becoming-world-number-five-coachin-guru-rgdph-b5j29

- EMCC https://www.emccglobal.org/

- Jonathan Rees https://twitter.com/JonathanRees_

- Megan Metcalf https://meganmetcalfstudio.com/

- People United https://peopleunited.org.uk/?doing_wp_cron=1690294077.4754209518432617187500

- Tom Andrews https://peopleunited.org.uk/our-people/tom-andrews/

- Sarah’s podcast episode with Tom Andrews https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/058-purpose-the-how-and-starting-with-self-with-tom-andrews/id1544267713?i=1000618007837

- People United’s research papers https://peopleunited.org.uk/our-research/

- Rest Is Resistance by Tricia Hersey https://thenapministry.com/

- Relational Dynamics 1st (RD 1st) https://relationaldynamics1st.co.uk/

- Deb Barnard MBE https://www.associationforcoaching.com/member/debbarnardAC

- Kathryn Powell https://leadwithoutlimits.co.uk/

- Clore Leadership https://www.cloreleadership.org/

- Isabel Mortimer https://www.cloreleadership.org/about-us/associates/8920

- Lasting Impact https://sarahfox.co.uk/lasting-impact

- Robbie’s article about the money stories holding you back https://www.robbieswale.com/the-12-minute-blog/2023/2/24/beware-the-money-stories-holding-you-back

- Marketing without the ick https://sarahfox.co.uk/blog-1/marketing-without-the-ick

- The Profit First method https://relayfi.com/blog/profit-first-method

- Sarah hosting a podcast about philanthropy https://www.linkedin.com/posts/sarahfoxcoach_kent-community-foundation-podcast-the-good-activity-7077898941115027456-E_wL/

- Association for Coaching https://www.associationforcoaching.com/

BIOGRAPHY FROM SARAH

Sarah Fox is founder and CEO of Do Good and Do Well, a coaching and consultancy company that helps individuals and organisations use their time, skills, expertise and/or wealth to contribute positively and make the world a better place.

Sarah is an EMCC senior practitioner accredited coach and mentor, as well as a qualified teacher, trainer, facilitator and podcaster. Before becoming a coach, Sarah spent 20 years in the not-for-profit sector exploring belonging, kindness and connection.

Sarah lives in Ramsgate in Kent and lives with her two children (13 + 11), her husband, one dog, one cat, two crayfish, one shrimp, six fish and two hamsters.

When Toku McCree first learned his purpose, he wondered where it had come from and who had said it—even though he was alone with his thoughts when it came to him.

He describes in this episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast how that particular thought, when it arrived, felt “untouchable” and instilled in him the purpose that now guides him through his life and work.

Toku spent more than two-and-a-half years living in a monastery, and insights from his former life as a Zen monk permeate his writing, his creativity and his work as a renowned executive coach.

In this episode we dive into Toku’s forthcoming book (you can read three chapters for free here) and he reads aloud sections that offer valuable wisdom on how to allow your coaching style to evolve, how to avoid getting stuck in a rut, and how to invite clients to take the first step when they arrive at coaching with trepidation.

If you are struggling with your work or with finding your purpose, this episode explores ways to make that struggle meaningful and guide you forwards towards satisfaction.

 In this episode, we also talk about:

Finding your creative voice and how to think about the body of work you’re creating

Bringing reverence to your work and finding satisfaction beyond the hustle

Knowing when to challenge and when to encourage our clients

The six areas of mastery Toku focuses on in his writing and his coach training

How to view your coaching as art and how that can guide you to do your best work

We also zoom in on how to accept the times when our work is not our best, and even explore the value in being willing to do bad work!

To learn more about me, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/, and to learn more about Toku, visit http://unexecutive.com/.

Read three chapters of Toku’s forthcoming book here: https://coachingmba.co/journey-zenandcoaching

For information about my wider work, my writing or to buy my books, visit www.robbieswale.com.

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community.

Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):

- Toku’s first appearance on The Coach’s Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-15-toku-mccree-sales-with-honour-and-love-on-the-end-of-a-sword

- Toku’s blog https://unexecutive.com/theblog/

- The Prosperous Coach by Rich Litvin https://richlitvin.com/prosperous-coach-2-0/

- Robbie’s 12 Minute Method https://www.robbieswale.com/the12minutemethod

- Zen Mind, Beginner’s Mind by Shunryu Suzuki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_Mind,_Beginner%27s_Mind

- When Things Fall Apart by Pema Chodron https://pemachodronfoundation.org/product/when-things-fall-apart-book-grouped/

- Everyday Zen by Charlotte Joko Beck https://harpercollins.co.uk/products/everyday-zen-love-and-work-charlotte-joko-beck?variant=32755860766798

- Zen and the Art of Archery by Eugen Herrigel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_in_the_Art_of_Archery

- Toku’s coaching MBA https://coachingmba.co/about/

BIOGRAPHY FROM TOKU

Toku McCree is a distinguished executive coach, speaker, and writer, celebrated for his one-of-a-kind combination of ancient wisdom and modern psychology.

His life journey weaves an extraordinary tapestry of diverse experiences, contributing to a profound understanding of human nature and personal growth. From a degree in philosophy from George Washington University, to eight years working in the entertainment business alongside record labels and award-winning artists, to over two years dedicated to training as a Zen monk, Toku's multifaceted expertise fuels his approach to coaching.

Today, he leverages this unique blend of academic, spiritual, and professional experiences to empower others on their paths of self-discovery and personal growth, making him a leading figure in the field.

Every coach has a human story, and these stories contain the wisdom, vulnerability and invaluable lessons that inform our work.

In this episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, Claire Pedrick and Lucia Baldelli share some of the human stories that have shaped their lives and careers, leading them to become Master Certified Coaches and co-authors of a powerful new book.

That book is The Human Behind The Coach, and it’s about the inner work we need to do to cultivate a simpler practice and to demonstrate art in the coaching room. It is a guide to the principles that inform a more human approach to coaching: one that is not bound by tools or hacks, but allows for a natural process and a letting go.

The vibrant dynamic between Claire and Lucia gave rise to the book and it shines through in this episode as they share their infectious enthusiasm for transformative coaching work with individuals, teams and organisations.

 In this episode, we also talk about:

How Agile methodologies help people adapt to change

The importance of holding endings

The times when it’s appropriate to break the rules

How we navigate fundamental differences between our beliefs and values and those of our clients

The power of being able to sit with not knowing

Claire and Lucia also discuss their virtual book launch, which is taking place on Monday November 13th at 6pm (UK time) - click here for details.

For more information about Claire, visit https://www.3dcoaching.com/claire-pedrick-mcc/.

For more information about Lucia, visit http://www.luciabaldelli.com/.

For more information on The Human Behind The Coach and the course Claire and Lucia mention, visit: https://www.thehumanbehindthecoach.com/

For information about my wider work, my writing or to buy my books, visit www.robbieswale.com.

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community.

Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):

- Coaching Agile Teams by Lisa Atkins https://lyssaadkins.com/product/coaching-agile-teams-paperback/

- Listen by Kathryn Mannix https://www.kathrynmannix.com/books/listen/

- With the End in Mind by Kathryn Mannix https://www.kathrynmannix.com/books/with-the-end-in-mind/

- The best chair in the world (according to Claire's LinkedIn connections) https://www.hermanmiller.com/en_gb/products/seating/office-chairs/

- Lucia's husband Marco's website: https://www.marcolattarulo.com/

- The Coaches Walking LinkedIn Group: https://www.linkedin.com/groups/12827884/

- Coaching Outside The Box https://www.coachingoutsidethebox.net/

- Claire’s book https://spckpublishing.co.uk/how-to-make-great-appointments-in-the-church

- Nancy Kline https://www.timetothink.com/nancy-kline/

- Brene Brown’s TED talk on vulnerability https://www.ted.com/talks/brene_brown_the_power_of_vulnerability?language=en

- Siobhan Miller https://www.linkedin.com/in/siobhan-miller/?originalSubdomain=uk

- Jennifer Garvey Berger on The Coach’s Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-42-jennifer-garvey-berger-the-answer-to-either-or-is-both

- Chapter 12 of The Human Behind The Coach is available for free on the website https://www.thehumanbehindthecoach.com/

- Bounce by Matthew Syed https://www.matthewsyed.co.uk/book/bounce-the-myth-of-talent-and-the-power-of-practice/

- Claire and Lucia on a writing retreat https://www.linkedin.com/posts/clairepedrick_thehumanbehindthecoach-activity-7044305188907544576-Gbpi/

- The Coaching Inn Podcast https://thecoachinginn.podbean.com/

What do we do when faced with big decisions about the future? How do we get in touch with our intuition and trust in the choices we make?

The Coach’s Journey Podcast has been at a crossroads and in this episode Robbie announces some exciting new developments that will shape its future. He also introduces some very special guests, who are not just guests!

These guests – Neil Mackinnon, Joey Owen, Ruth Saville, Alex Swallow and Alex Whitton – are in fact the new team of hosts who will be helping Robbie to evolve The Coach’s Journey Podcast. This evolution includes the podcast becoming fortnightly in 2024, and having five amazing coaches join Robbie in hosting episodes.

We all hope these changes will take everything that’s good about The Coach’s Journey and build something even greater on those foundations, helping to deepen our work, reach more people, and serve the coaching community more powerfully and effectively than ever.

Each new host has a passion for coaching that is evident in this episode. They know Robbie's work and the podcast inside out, and will bring their own unique approaches to the interviews and guests that feature on the podcast in 2024 and potentially beyond.

This episode is a chance to meet the new team, but it’s about much more than that. 

 In this episode, we also talk about:

How to get in touch with your intuition to help you solve problems

The power of podcasts to empower us and help us feel less alone

Why the Coach’s Journey has mattered so much to each of the team

How being on purpose can change our energy about a project

Indra's Net and how changing just one person changes the world

We also take a journey through the history of the podcast, highlighting each member of the team’s favourite episodes, and reflecting on moments where authenticity, warmth, honesty and ordinary human qualities made the podcast accessible, powerful and meaningful.

For more information about our new hosts, use the following links:

Alex Swallow: http://alexswallow.com/

Neil Mckinnon: https://neilmackinnon.net/

Ruth Saville: https://www.daretorise.co.uk/

Alex Whitton: https://www.exploregrowbe.com/

Joey Owen: https://joeyowencoaching.com/

For information about Robbie’s wider work, his writing or to buy his books, visit www.robbieswale.com.

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community.

Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):

- Robbie on How I Became a Full-Time Coach Less Than Two Years After Starting My Training https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/writing/how-i-became-a-full-time-coach-less-than-two-years-after-starting-my-training

- Robbie on the Association for Coaching Podcast Marketing series: https://www.associationforcoaching.com/page/Why_Purpose_and_Practice_Creates_Effective_Marketing_with_Robbie_Swale

- Amayah Pelegrin - https://www.thefield.consulting/about

- Ruth's podcast: Women of a Certain Age https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/ruth-saville/episodes/Claire-Eden-on-the-importance-of-failure--sitting-in-discomfort-and-Obliger-Rebellion-e2a8cgb

- Neil's podcast: Create Practice https://open.spotify.com/show/3ww01iVMpHRX2BQldamCPc

- Alex Swallow's podcast: How to Influence https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/how-to-influence/episodes/What-does-good-look-like-for-you-and-why-e11aggd 

- Robert Holden’s Purpose Club https://www.robertholden.com/events/purpose-club/

- Phil Goddard’s podcast, The Coaching Life https://www.philg.com/podcast/

- Jennifer Garvey Berger on The Coach’s Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-42-jennifer-garvey-berger-the-answer-to-either-or-is-both

- Myles Downey on The Coach’s Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-31-myles-downey

- Brené Brown’s podcast https://brenebrown.com/podcast-show/unlocking-us/

- The Tim Ferris Show https://tim.blog/podcast/

- Insight Seminars https://insightseminars.org/ 

- Claire Antrobus https://www.claireantrobus.com/

- Maintenance Phase podcast https://www.maintenancephase.com/

- Conspirituality podcast https://www.conspirituality.net/

- The Athletic Football Tactics Project https://open.spotify.com/show/1o2ZogNQQmPKCntcdKnXPT

- The MOE Foundation https://moefoundation.com/

- Catriona Horey on The Coach’s Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-4-catriona-horey-too-far-away-from-the-joy

- Jeffrey Wotherspoon on The Coach’s Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-24-jeffrey-wotherspoon

- Allegra Stein on The Coach’s Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-22-allegra-stein-how-to-flourish-as-a-coaching-misfit

FAVOURITE PODCAST EPISODES

Neil's favourite episode: episode #5 with James Bianco https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-5-james-bianco-beware-your-simple-stories-about-coaching-success

Joey's favourite episodes: episode #1 with Katie Harvey https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-1-katie-harvey-14000-hours-of-coaching-being-part-of-the-uk-coaching-vanguard-and-being-a-generalist-coach and episode #46 Henrietta Nelson https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-46-henrietta-nelson-nobody-else-can-put-a-feeling-in-you

Ruth's favourite episode: episode #6 with Joel Monk https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-6-joel-monk-conversations-at-the-cutting-edge-of-coaching

Alex Swallow's favourite episodes: episode #25 with Kim Morgan https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-25-kim-morgan, episode #19 with Chris Joseph https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-19-chris-joseph, episode #15 with Toku McCree, https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-15-toku-mccree-sales-with-honour-and-love-on-the-end-of-a-sword  and episode #27 with Robert Stephenson https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-27-robert-stephenson-animas-how-to-say-yes-and-become-a-conduit-for-change

Alex Whitton’s favourite episodes: episode #19 with Chris Joseph https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-19-chris-joseph and episode #20 with Giovanna Capozza https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-20-giovanna-capozza

Robbie’s favourite episodes: episode #9 with Barry Ennis https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-9-barry-ennis-follow-the-fire and episode #47 with Lindsey Lewis https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-47-lyndsey-lewis-turning-torment-into-talent  

Neil Mackinnon describes himself as a curious human, and his curiosity has guided him throughout a remarkable career in which he has been immersed in creative projects, surrounded by creative people, and focussed on creative potential.

Crucially, he has also spent a great deal of his life listening and being truly present to what has occurred around him, and these qualities aided a sense of catharsis and newfound aliveness when he first experienced coaching.

Neil is one of the new hosts of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, and in this episode he gets to the heart of why coaching has become such a prominent focus of a life in which he has worked as a professional musician, a creative producer for Europe’s largest centre for the arts, and now as a faculty member at the Academy of Executive Coaching.

He explains how skilful coaches helped him access the power and potential of coaching to overcome profound challenges in his work, and how coaching appealed to his sense of adventure and his disposition as a man fascinated by all industries, all people, and all walks of life.

 In this episode, we also talk about:

How to choose a coaching organisation to train with

The hidden messages that lie within our resistance to coaching

Building autonomy through your locus of control

The profound potency of core coaching competencies

Coaching as a relational business, in which your network really matters

Neil, who has his own podcast called Creative Practice, also speaks to the deeper work of coaching, and the change that becomes possible when we find the courage to step into our shadow.

For more information about Neil, visit https://neilmackinnon.net/

For information about Robbie’s wider work, his writing or to buy his books, visit www.robbieswale.com.

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community.

Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):

- The Academy of Executive Coaching https://www.aoec.com/

- The Coach’s Casebook by Kim Morgan and Geoff Watts https://barefootcoaching.co.uk/product/the-coachs-casebook-kim-morgan-geoff-watts-2015/

- Robbie appearing on Neil’s Creative Practice podcast https://creative-practice.net/2021/01/29/robbie-swale-coach/

- Kate Rees - https://www.katereescoaching.com/

- A Job To Love by Alain de Botton https://www.theschooloflife.com/shop/a-job-to-love/

- Designing Your Life by Bill Burnett and Dave Evans https://designingyour.life/the-book/

- Richard Hawley - https://www.frycreative.uk/richard-hawley

- Gaylene Gould on Neil’s podcast, Creative Practice https://creative-practice.net/2021/08/12/episode-13-gaylene-gould/

- Link to the art behind Neil on the wall: Jet propulsion library, NASA https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/galleries/visions-of-the-future 

- Jude Kelly https://thewowfoundation.com/about-wow/about-jude-kelly

- The WOW Foundation https://thewowfoundation.com/

- RD 1st Coaching Training https://relationaldynamics1st.co.uk/

- Theatre People, Greg Jauncey's cultural sector HR Consultancy https://www.theatrepeople.uk/who-are-we

- Paul Williamson from The Ambassador Theatre Group https://www.associationforcoaching.com/members/?id=52110032

- ABC Creative Music https://www.abcmusic.org.uk/

- InterMusica https://www.intermusica.com/

- Jerry Seinfeld on The Tim Ferris Show https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/485-jerry-seinfeld-a-comedy-legends-systems/id863897795?i=1000501727043

- The Prosperous Coach by Rich Litvin https://richlitvin.com/book/

- Chilly's Water Bottles https://www.chillys.com/uk/categories/bottles

- The quote Neil mentions at the end: in his book Reboot, Leadership and the Art of Growing Up, executive coach Jerry Colonna writes about this sort of radical self-inquiry: “I laugh loudly when folks suggest that this is some sort of yoga-inspired soft-bellied call to leadership. ‘Namaste my ass,’ I say with my Brooklyn-born chip firmly, squarely, and proudly on my shoulder. ‘Try entering the cave, walking to the dark recesses, and retrieving the treasure wa-a-a-y in the back. Then come tell me about being soft.’”

BIOGRAPHY FROM NEIL

Neil is a London-based leadership and executive coach, accredited by the International Coaching Federation and the European Mentoring and Coaching Council. He works with ambitious individuals, leaders and entrepreneurs, across the cultural and creative industries, tech and beyond. He coaches people to fulfill their potential through helping them establish clarity of purpose, supporting personal growth and enabling valued professional contribution and sustained personal fulfilment.

Following an early career as a professional musician Neil worked in various management and leaders roles in the cultural and creative sectors, including 12 years at London’s Southbank Centre, Europe’s largest centre for the arts. During his time there he discovered coaching through a transformational experience of working with a coach. This sparked a journey of discovery that led to his initial coach training and building coaching skills into his style of leadership.

He now splits his time between his private coaching practice and a part time faculty position at the Academy of Executive Coaching, a leading global coaching organisation offering executive coach training, coaching solutions, executive coaching certification.

Coaching found Julie Starr without her looking for it, and she started to practice coaching before she knew what it was.

As a project manager of large-scale change initiatives in big organisations, Julie was someone who people naturally turned to with problems ­– often complex, personal matters that required care and attention to their inner world.

Julie acquired skills to enhance her ability to perform this role; tools like neuro-linguistic programming helped her to navigate one-to-one work, and also prepared her for the future that awaited her.

At a time when coaching qualifications had yet to be developed, Julie began writing a book that would help people understand the one-to-one work she was doing. That book is The Coaching Manual and it is now in its fifth edition, having garnered critical acclaim from the likes of Sir John Whitmore, widely regarded as the founder of the coaching industry.

Julie, now an executive coach, mentor, writer and speaker, has since written two more best-selling books on coaching as well as two works of fiction, all of which are inspired by her belief in the interdependency of people, and by her passionate enquiry into the nature of reality.

 In this episode, we also talk about:

Not allowing models and frameworks to become limiting factors in our work as coaches

The power of non-attachment and the importance of working joyfully

Staying true to ourselves, and resisting the temptation to climb a ladder that is against somebody else’s wall

How to charge what you would be delighted with but not amazed by

How to pursue the pathways that make sense to you in a turbulent, disorienting world

We also discuss the biggest challenge we face as coaches: the inner and outer work we have to do to get ourselves out of the way in conversations.

Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):

- Neuro-linguistic programming https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuro-linguistic_programming

- Tony Robbins https://www.tonyrobbins.com/

- Richard Bandler and John Grinder https://www.pocketbook.co.uk/blog/2017/08/01/john-grinder-and-richard-bandler-nlp-neuro-linguistic-programming/

- Milton Erickson https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_H._Erickson

- Effective Coaching by Myles Downey https://pocketwisdom.blog/2022/08/10/effective-coaching-by-myles-downey/

- Coaching for Performance by Sir John Whitmore https://www.performanceconsultants.com/coaching-for-performance-book

- Co-active Coaching https://coactive.com/about/what-is-coactive

- The GROW model https://www.performanceconsultants.com/grow-model

- Tim Gallwey https://www.performanceconsultants.com/tim-gallwey

- Writing coach Marcia Yudkin https://www.yudkin.com/index.htm

- Eloise Cook https://reedsy.com/eloise-cook

- Kim Morgan on The Coach’s Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-25-kim-morgan

- The Institute of Self-Actualisation https://isaexperience.wordpress.com/

- Landmark Forum https://www.landmarkworldwide.com/the-landmark-forum

- The Journey https://home.thejourney.com/

- Joe Dispenza https://drjoedispenza.com/

- Julie’s first non-fiction book, From Magic to Memphis https://starrcoaching.co.uk/introducing-julies-debut-novel-magic-to-memphis/

- Truth Keeper, book one, by Julie Starr https://www.linkedin.com/posts/juliestarrcoach_truth-keeper-book-one-julie-starr-activity-7076863795129655296-cjpg/

Joey Owen is a coach whose unique gifts allow her to connect with the humanity of her clients.

Joey ’s formative training in drama and in theatre for development instilled her with the ability to unlock people’s innate creativity and confidence. With that skill she has enriched the lives around the world, helping individuals, organisations and communities to thrive.

Joey is part of the new team of hosts at The Coach’s Journey Podcast, but in this episode she answers Robbie’s questions about her remarkable life and career, describing the adventure-driven steps that led her from training in theatre for development to founding Freedom To Learn, a charity that improves access to education for children in India and Nepal.

She describes how the foundational listening skills and work around confidence that helped her to transform communities in rural Asia now underpin her work as a coach, and how spiritual practices she developed in India allow her to connect deeply with people from all walks of life.

 In this episode, Joey and Robbie also talk about:

How to access a deeper sense of connectedness and to work from the heart

The creative processes that we can use to build confidence

Insight Seminars, and the courses that can reveal our natural coaching abilities

Lead generation tools for new coaches to use when building their business

The way our work ripples out from our clients, to the benefit of everyone around them (including us!)

Joey also shares the daily rituals that keep her steady in her work and help her to develop a profound sense of empathy and connection with her clients.

Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):

- Mike Toller on The Coach’s Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-32-mike-toller

- Robbie’s website www.robbieswale.com 

- Joey’s website www.joeyowencoaching.com

- Freedom To Learn https://freedomtolearn.org.uk/

- Insight Seminars https://www.insightseminarsuk.com/

- Tom Flatau https://team-working.com

- The Prosperous Coach by Rich Litvin and Steve Chandler https://richlitvin.com/book/

- Landmark Forum https://www.landmarkworldwide.com/the-landmark-forum

- Ben Carter https://www.bencartercoaching.com/

- Strategic Intervention Coaching Certifications: https://rmtcenter.com/certification-programs/

- Tony Robbins on the Tim Ferriss Show: https://tim.blog/2014/10/15/money-master-the-game/

- The Tony Robbins documentary Robbie mentioned: https://www.netflix.com/gb/title/80102204

- Lamda exams: https://www.lamda.ac.uk/lamda-exams/our-exams

- The Choir guy from TV who was mentioned! Gareth Malone: https://www.garethmalone.com/

- Forest Arts Centre: https://www.forest-arts.co.uk/

- Forum Theatre: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forum_theatre

- Cardboard Citizens: https://cardboardcitizens.org.uk/

- ERSF:  https://ersf.org.uk

- The December Episode where Joey talks about Indra's Net: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-56-introducing-the-new-hosts-ushering-in-the-future-of-the-coachs-journey

- Indra's Net: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indra%27s_net

- Joey's Bark Profile - https://www.bark.com/en/gb/company/joey-owen-coaching/RvZ2l/ 

- Chris Joseph on the Coach's Journey Podcast: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-19-chris-joseph

- SGI: https://sgi-uk.org/

- SGI's introduction to chanting page: https://sgi-uk.org/Intro

- Tina Turner's book, Happiness Becomes You: https://www.waterstones.com/book/happiness-becomes-you/tina-turner//9780008398637

- I Heart https://iheartprinciples.com/

- Henrietta Nelson on The Coach's Journey Podcast: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-46-henrietta-nelson-nobody-else-can-put-a-feeling-in-you

- The chanting audio on Apple Podcasts that Joey mentions: https://music.apple.com/gb/album/nam-myoho-renge-kyo/1391365531?i=139136

BIOGRAPHY FROM JOEY

Joey is a fully qualified Theatre for Development Practitioner (MA), Applied Drama and Community Coach (BA Hons) and LAMDA drama teacher (LLAM). Certified as a Strategic Intervention (SI) Coach with the Coaching Institute, she has 20 years experience in the education and development sectors as a facilitator and coach in the UK, Europe and South Asia. Alongside her private coaching practice she is also Programmes Director at Freedom to Learn, an NGO working in South Asia Nepal, improving access to and quality of education for children from vulnerable backgrounds.

Despite being told that one day coaching would lead her to burn out, Katie Harvey has discovered that the opposite is true: coaching gives her energy.

Now into her third decade as a coach, Katie has carefully honed a practice that enriches her life and allows her to express her core values through her work, and in this episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, she explains how she did it.

Katie reflects on how coaching has helped her to move beyond a binary view of the world in order to sit more comfortably with seemingly conflicting truths, such life being both painful and beautiful, or people being both loveable and difficult.

This is Katie’s third time as a guest on the podcast, and host Joey Owen helps her unpack the story of the years since her first appearance, over four years ago, and her second, which came at the height of the coronavirus pandemic.

Alongside her work with individual clients and with leaders, and the coaching she delivers at Coach U and London Business School, we were excited to hear Katie is finally writing the book she speaks about in her first appearance on the podcast, which she hopes will bring her into more connection with coaches and help them achieve a sense of integration.

In this episode, Katie and Joey also talk about:

Optimising energy for coaching by paying attention to the four pillars of self-care

Supervision, listening partners, and the tools and aids that help coaches develop space, time and improvements in their practice

The ways in which coaching is shaping the future in educational spaces

The love that runs through our work, and the boundaries that allow us to work with love

How to identify our core values, through the activities that express our essence

Katie also generously shares the changes she has made to her pricing structure and the rationale that has helped her reach a place of comfort and fulfilment.

For links to many of the things mentioned in this episode, please visit: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-60-katie-harvey-beyond-the-binary-lies-balance

When Alex Swallow sees people doing great work, he experiences an almost evangelical urge to help bring others into connection with that work.

His ability to do just that, and to boldly spread the reach of ideas, initiatives and projects worth championing, led him to become The Influence Expert – a coach and thought leader who helps individuals, companies and institutions to grow and deepen their impact on the world.

Alex is also one of the new hosts of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, and this episode is a chance to hear about the journey he has been on, from being the first in his family to go to university, to becoming the chief executive of a national charity, and to writing his first book, How To Become an Influencer.

The conversation between Alex and Robbie explores influence, authenticity, and the philosophies and principles that shape our view of the world and the work we do in it.

Alex shares insights into how he has used social media to great effect in his career, and how he has carefully aligned himself with communities of people who are fuelling the next steps of his career as a coach, influencer and writer.

In this episode, Alex and Robbie also talk about:

The ‘golden threads’ in our experiences that lead us into the future

How humans get trapped by simple stories, and how that can limit our view of the world

The importance of agency, and how we can give it back to our clients

Why, how and when you might be a better coach than even the most experienced practitioners in the industry

Feedback, and how communities can enrich our practice

Alex also speaks about the new book he is collaborating on, which is tantalisingly focused on a particular method for getting clients.

For links to many of the things mentioned in this episode, please visit: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-62-alex-swallow-life-is-better-when-we-choose

This episode is sponsored by Heyday: https://heyday.xyz/

New developments in artificial intelligence make the news headlines so often that many people – including coaches and their clients – are wondering just how AI advances will affect their jobs, their careers and their lives.

In this sponsored episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, AI expert Samiur Rahman offers a rare insight into the way machine learning is shaping the future of coaching by fuelling the creation of tools that can save coaches time and improve their productivity.

Samiur is the co-founder of Heyday, an AI thought partner that helps coaches and other knowledge workers by generating automatic session notes, detecting patterns in client conversations, and aggregating information about clients.

In conversation with Robbie, Samiur opens up about the impact coaching has had on his journey through a career in which he has founded two start-ups and worked in others, and how he sought out the coaches who could bring out the very best in him.

He also describes the development process that led to Heyday’s creation, which involved careful consultation with coaches and produced revelations about the way practitioners work and their most pressing needs.

In this episode, Samiur and Robbie also talk about:

The power of coaching for new managers and founders alike

How the coaching we need changes at different stages of our careers

The ways AI and machine learning are likely to disrupt the world of work and the coaching industry (and the ways they aren’t)

What strange and admirable qualities coacheshave, from the perspective of someone who has studied them as customers.

Samiur also describes how Heyday, which offers a free two-week trial to all new sign-ups, has changed the lives and work of coaches who use it, and the impact upon their clients.

For links to many of the things mentioned in this episode, please visit: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-61-samiur-rahman-ai-heyday-and-the-quest-to-capture-meaningful-moments

The question of what makes a life well-lived is at the heart of Alex Whitton’s work, both as a coach and as the CEO of a charity that supports young people to realise their potential.

In this episode of the Coach’s Journey Podcast, Alex tells Robbie about the story of his career so far, from studying at Oxford University, to his volunteer work with young people, to running a social enterprise and then deciding to become a coach.

He describes how he emerged from a mindset of scarcity into one of abundance and opportunity as he came to recognise his strengths as a coach, which were cultivated through his work with Universify and the MOE Foundation.

Alex shares insights into how he has built his coaching business alongside his work with Universify, and also how he is fulfilling his childhood ambition of becoming an author.

He speaks about the fundamental importance of authenticity, vulnerability and creativity – principles that underpin his writing practice as well as his work as a coach and CEO.

In this episode, Alex and Robbie also talk about:

- Stories, memories and listening for insight

- How coaching skills can empower young people throughout their lives

- The power of someone taking your dreams seriously

- Taking a bigger-picture view, in order to see your own abundance

- A highly effective way to invite people to be coached and enhance your agency as a coach

Alex also offers a refreshing approach to framing conversations with prospective clients, capturing the spirit of co-creation in a way that has universal appeal.

For links to many of the things mentioned in this episode, please visit: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-64-alex-whitton-balancing-the-being-and-the-doing

Jo Wright admits she had to get her dad’s permission before deciding on No More Sh*t Managers: Seven Steps to a Coaching Cultureas the title of her book.

Thankfully he agreed and the book has made Jo a bestselling Amazon UK author as her message about the power of a coaching culture spreads to people and organisations around the world.

In this episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, Jo tells host Alex Swallow about the foundational experiences in early life that instilled her with a belief in the positive change that can happen when people have better conversations.

She describes the life-changing conversations that have shaped her career, from managing a small team and noticing her flair for mentoring, to co-founding a coaching business and magazine that helped propel the industry forward by creating digital coaching solutions.

Jo’s book is a love letter to humanity, and what shines through in this episode is her desire to help as many people as possible, by making sure that coaching – and the life-changing experiences it offers – is for everybody.

Having embedded coaching cultures in some of the world’s biggest organisations, she is succeeding in her aim quite spectacularly.

In this episode, Jo and Alex also talk about:

The human development that takes place when training as a coach

How far we can go when we’re willing to be vulnerable

The fundamental importance of maintaining hope that things can be better

The value we invest in ourselves and how our clients experience our personal growth and self-development

Jo also shares some invaluable advice about getting your work out into the world, generously opening up about the steps she took to reach her audience.

For links to many of the things mentioned in this episode, please visit: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-63-jo-wright-we-can-make-things-better-but-we-have-to-do-it-together

A quarter-life crisis is a period of intense soul searching that arrives when we are first confronted with the question of what to do with our lives.

That’s according to Chloë Garland, the founder of QuarterLife, a company that works with individuals and organisations to help people in their 20s and 30s not just survive, but thrive.

In this episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, Chloë sheds light on the generational shifts that have prolonged adolescence, and how many of us encounter our first truly meaningful life choices in our mid or late 20s.

Chloë tells host Alex Whitton how studying philosophy encouraged her to ponder life’s big questions, and how in her first coaching session – at age 22 – she was asked questions she had never considered before.

That session left Chloë feeling ignited, and she describes the unusual experience of being called into coaching at a young age, knowing she had a gift for conversations but perhaps unaware of the profound impact she would have on the lives of young people she would meet along the way.

In this episode, Chloë and Alex also talk about:

• Living emergently, holding goals lightly, and embracing opportunities as they arise


• The jam donut principle of purpose and presence


• The power of metaphors and fables to simplify complex ideas


• Psychodemographics, and how to find your niche


• The value of shared experience in coaching, and the importance of owning your story


Chloë also shares some hugely valuable lessons on growing a coaching business, reflecting on investments, outsourcing, and how the fear of success can be as much of a hindrance as the fear of failure.

For links to many of the things mentioned in this episode, please visit: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-65-chloe-garland-the-jam-donut-principle-quarter-life-crises-and-the-philosophy-of-coaching

Would you like to have more fun while still working in your zone of genius? Are you concerned you might need to shake things up to avoid becoming a boring coach?

Ruth Saville’s advice to coaches everywhere – including herself – is: misbehave more. Listen to your inner rebel. Dance in the moment and create systems that work for you.

Since the COVID-19 pandemic forced Ruth to step back from her successful performing arts franchise and examine the toll her work was taking on her life, she has followed her inner seeker into the world of personal development and coaching.

In this episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, Ruth takes Robbie back to the small towns in the north of England where they both grew up, retracing the steps of a life and career that began with a focus on helping people to express themselves through dance, theatre and music.

Ruth, who is one of the new hosts of this podcast as well as her own show, Women of a Certain Age, is now focusing on working with emerging leaders in all fields, having arrived in her zone of genius, taken her own approach to mastery, and become anything other than boring.

 In this episode, Ruth and Robbie also talk about:

Big hairy audacious goals (BHAGs)

Cults, pyramid schemes and other perilous industry pitfalls

How to accept who you are, in order to know what you can do

Ways to market yourself without exploiting others

Taking a step back to spot the signs of burnout

Ruth also grapples with the models and methodologies that can fuel or frustrate new coaches and unpacks problems that have plagued certain sections of the coaching industry, making important distinctions about the ways in which different practitioners work.

For more information about Ruth, visit https://www.daretorise.co.uk/ .

For more information about this episode’s host, Robbie Swale, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/.

Read more about The Coach's Journey at www.thecoachsjourney.com.

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community.

Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):

- You Will Be Found from Dear Evan Hansen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oq9FlLVh6yg

- Gretchen Rubin and the Four Tendencies: https://courses.gretchenrubin.com/4tc/ and her book Better Than Before

- Gallup coaching https://www.gallup.com/cliftonstrengths/en/253958/become-coach.aspx

- GROW model https://www.performanceconsultants.com/grow-model

- Claire Pedrick and Lucia Baldelli on The Coach’s Journey https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-55-claire-pedrick-and-lucia-baldelli-the-human-behind-the-coach

- Barefoot Coaching https://barefootcoaching.co.uk/

- The Big Leap by Gay Hendricks https://www.harpercollins.com/products/the-big-leap-gay-hendricks?variant=32205677625378

- Rich Litvin https://richlitvin.com/

- Animas https://www.animascoaching.com/

Marianne Craig on The Coach’s Journey Podcast - https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-10-marianne-craig-founding-firework-question-everything-where-were-coaches-when-banks-went-down

- Co-active Training Institute https://coactive.com/

- Academy of Executive Coaching https://www.aoec.com/

- Kim Morgan on The Coach’s Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-25-kim-morgan

- Brene Brown on The Tim Ferriss Show: https://tim.blog/2015/08/28/brene-brown-on-vulnerability-and-home-run-ted-talks/

- Mel Robbins: https://www.melrobbins.com/

- Rachel Hollis: https://msrachelhollis.com/

- Ruth's podcast, Women of a Certain Age: https://www.daretorise.co.uk/podcast

- Ruth's blog on perimenopause: https://www.daretorise.co.uk/blog/an-enforced-perimeno-pause

- The Lighthouse scandal: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65175712

- Ruth's instagram post and the picture of her aged 20: https://www.instagram.com/p/Ct1HvaYIQfd/

BIOGRAPHY FROM RUTH

Ruth is a leadership and business coach who specialises in working with emerging leaders. With 20+ years experience of being self employed she is also an entrepreneur, having grown and scaled a successful franchise business. After 16 years Ruth decided to sell this business to allow her to work full time as a coach.

With an extensive background in arts education and a self confessed personal development fanatic, she brings all this experience together to offer her clients transformational coaching. Her practice is made up of an eclectic mix of private clients, organisational and corporate work as well as supervision and coach skills training. Recently Ruth has also been working with new coaches, focusing on developing both themselves and their businesses. 

She is comfortable working in a high challenge, high trust relationship and has been described as a down to earth Northerner, a title she is more than happy with! She brings a sense of humour and a light touch to her work, which she sees as a valuable tool in the coaching relationship. Ruth firmly believes that the idea of play, fun and creativity can create an expansive and transformational coaching environment. 

Is the mass-marketisation of coaching de-valuing the practice? Or does widening access to coaching help everyone?

Tori Jeffers is a Professional Certified Coach who has amassed over 1,000 hours of experience in just three years. In this episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast she explores the shifts in the coaching landscape that are transforming the industry.

After spending more than a decade pursuing her passion for conservation, which took her to Madagascar and the Amazon to work with sea turtles, sharks and monkeys, Tori found herself in a battle with burnout.

In conversation with Ruth, Tori describes how the roots of her coaching career reach all the way back to her first job in conservation and a manager who shared approaches and tools that made a lasting impact.

Tori discusses her current coaching work with BetterUp, reflecting on the experience of coaching through an organisation rather than establishing a private practice, and also explains how she co-founded and organisation that supports emerging environmental leaders.

 In this episode, Tori and Ruth also talk about:

Contracting and how it is the answer to everything

Questioning the urge to help others, and asking what we might be denying them

Our ‘beetle shells’ – the defences we put up in order to get through challenging times

The balance between empathy and sanity

The importance – and difficulty – of building a network

Giving yourself permission not to be busy

Tori also shares the highly impactful books she wishes she had read earlier in her coaching career, and speaks about how she intends to grow her client base while continuing to inspire improvements in environmental leadership.

For links to many of the things mentioned in this episode, please visit: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-67-tori-jeffers-who-wins-and-who-loses-as-coaching-goes-mainstream

Clare Norman is a master certified coach with the International Coaching Federation, whose latest book, The Transformational Coach, maps out a journey to coaching mastery that begins with unlearning the old beliefs and mindsets that are not serving you or your clients, in order to reset and replace them with a new set of thought patterns.

In this episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, Clare shares some brutally honest financial advice for coaches and talks through the developments in contracting, process and values that helped her go from coaching internally in a large corporation to building and running her own business as a coach, coach trainer and supervisor.

Clare also flies the flag for mentor coaching, telling host Neil Mackinnon why she believes it is the best way for a coach to “sharpen their edge”, and she generously shares wisdom on how new coaches can successfully position themselves in a fast-changing industry.

In this episode, Clare and Neil also talk about:

Getting your name ‘out there’ as an independent coach

Why coaching bodies matter and what they can do for us

How to lead an ethically sound, mentally healthy coaching practice

The power of experiencing different organisational cultures and their values

Achieving sustained change through shifting mindsets rather thanskillsets

Clare also shares examples of the unhelpful mindsets we, as coaches, need to unlearn in order to be of service to our clients and ourselves (there are a total of 83 of these mindsets listed in her book!).

For links to many of the things mentioned in this episode, please visit: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-68-clare-norman-glimmers-of-hope-structuring-a-coaching-business-and-unlearning-mindsets-on-the-journey-to-coaching-mastery

Mike Toller works as a professional coach and psychodynamic psychotherapist, supporting individuals privately and in organisations, and training people to bring coaching skills and mindsets into their personal and professional lives.

That makes him the perfect person to answer one of the big questions that coaches ask and get asked: what is the difference between coaching on the one hand, and counselling and psychotherapy on the other?

In this new format, an excerpt from Episode #32, you can hear Mike and Robbie exploring that big question.

As Robbie says in the introduction to this episode, the clarity of what Mike talks about here has changed how Robbie thinks and talks about the difference between coaching and psychotherapy (and counselling). It just might do that for you, too.

Listen back to Episode #32 in full here, for Mike’s story and many amazing ideas and tips for you and your coaching business: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-32-mike-toller.

For more information about Mike, visit https://www.clarenormancoachingassociates.com.

For more information about this episode’s host, Robbie Swale, visit https://www.michaeltollercoaching.co.uk/

Read more about The Coach's Journey at www.thecoachsjourney.com.

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community.

BIOGRAPHY FROM MIKE

Mike was born in Germany and moved to the UK when he was six years old. He lived in Oxfordshire, Leeds and Norfolk with his parents and three brothers. When he was 19, he studied Linguistics in Cambridge, and then moved to London.

Mike first worked for a graduate recruitment startup, then followed a passion for writing and made a leap to publishing, editing travel guides. In his spare time, he put on clubnights for fun and later took the plunge and left his job as an editor to turn the nights into a successful events company.

Realising he wanted his work to be more fulfilling and align directly with his values and wider goals, Mike began a process of self-reflection and worked with some amazing mentors, who inspired him to take his career into his own hands and choose a new direction. He made a plan for change, and in 2010 began training as a psychotherapist.

Along the way, he decided to develop a portfolio career and trained as a coach in 2014. He also co-founded The Coaching School, a centre of excellence for coaching committed to training and supporting the next generation of outstanding coaches.

Mike now works as a professional coach and psychodynamic psychotherapist, supporting individuals privately and in organisations, and training people to bring coaching skills and mindsets into their personal and professional lives.

Myles Downey has been practising coaching for more than 40 years. His book, Effective Modern Coaching, has sold more than 330,000 copies and is a recommended read on many coaching training courses.

In this episode, Myles returns for his second appearance on The Coach’s Journey Podcast, with the questions asked by Robbie and Neil – doubling the hosts in order to double the insight!

We dive deep into the nuances of coaching, exploring themes of self-actualisation, performance, and the delicate balance between directive and non-directive coaching, leveraging Myles’ experience coaching senior executives and leadership teams across the globe.

This episode coincides with the release of a new edition of Effective Modern Coaching, which has enabled him to fine-tune everything he has learned about effective coaching over the last 40 years, including through founding The School of Coaching in 1996, the first institution in Europe to focus solely on the development of coaching skills for coaches, managers and leaders.

The episode is a treasure trove of insights for new and experienced coaches alike. Myles' wisdom provides a deep dive into the art and science of coaching. Whether you're a seasoned coach or just starting your journey, this episode offers valuable perspectives on how to elevate your practice and truly make a difference in your clients' lives.

In particular, we talk about:

Pushing back against the culture contagion of compliance: how we get engineered in society and lose the capacity to trust ourselves.

Performance coaching and self-actualisation: how to align personal expression with professional performance.

Tim Gallwey’s Inner Game and its influence on Myles and Neil, including diving into Gallwey’s Self One and Self Two.

Construing, constructs and creating our maps of reality (and how non-directive coaching makes all the difference).

‘Transcend and include’ as an underpinning principle in our development as coaches and that of our clients.

Proposing: the delicate balance required to offer suggestions to our clients without imposing them.

Plus, we talk about whether the shine has come off coaching and other changes Myles has noticed over his decades in the industry, and Neil invites Myles to get into the business-building parts of his work: how he structures engagements, how his sales process looks and more...

To listen to Myles’ first appearance on The Coach’s Journey Podcast, visit https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-31-myles-downey

For more information about Myles, visit www.mylesdowney.com or find him on LinkedIn at www.linkedin.com/in/mylesdowney

For more information about Robbie Swale, visit www.robbieswale.com and for more information about Neil Mackinnon, visit www.neilmackinnon.net.

Read more about The Coach's Journey at www.thecoachsjourney.com.

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community.

Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):

Myles' previous appearance on The Coach's Journey Podcast: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-31-myles-downey

Myles on The Edge of Coaching Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/episode/0EWTGZa8XnMF1n13Q76wSr?si=YF9zAEILScCunFai85RIaQ

The Inner Game of Tennis by Timothy Gallwey: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Inner-Game-Tennis-ultimate-performance/dp/1447288505/

The Inner Game of Music by Timothy Gallwey: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Inner-Game-Music-Timothy-Gallwey/dp/1447291727

The new edition of Effective Modern Coaching: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Effective-Modern-Coaching-principles-successful/dp/191595116X/

David Clutterbuck: https://clutterbuck-cmi.com/

Aristotle Onassis: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aristotle_Onassis

Enabling Genius by Myles Downey: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Enabling-Genius-Myles-Downey/dp/1910649538

Academy of Executive Coaching: https://www.aoec.com/

Mihaily Csikszentmihaly: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mihaly_Csikszentmihalyi

Roberto Assagioli: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roberto_Assagioli

The Craftsman by Richard Sennett: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Craftsman-Richard-Sennett/dp/0141022094

Jennifer Garvey Berger on The Coach's Journey Podcast: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-42-jennifer-garvey-berger-the-answer-to-either-or-is-both

The Prosperous Coach book: https://richlitvin.com/book/

BIOGRAPHY FROM MYLES

Myles Downey is one of the leading executive coaches in Europe, with global experience (Europe, North and South America, Asia-Pacific, UAE). He has worked across the C-suite in many prestigious organisations over the last 30 years, in a wide variety of industries, including Banking and Financial Services, Manufacturing, Oil and Gas, Professional Services, Tech and the Public Sector.

Myles is a recognized authority on Performance, Coaching and Leadership and the author of three classics in the coaching and performance arena: ‘Effective Modern Coaching’, ‘Effective Coaching’ (between them 300,00+ books sold); ‘Enabling Genius – a mindset for success in the 21st Century’; ‘The Enabling Manager - how to get the best out of your team’ published in July 2022.

Myles has deployed his performance coaching programs with the Senior Coaches of the England Rugby Team and with the New Zealand Elite Rugby Coaches.

Myles has been a speaker at many leadership conferences, including the BBC’s Conference for its top 400 senior executives, the McKinsey Global Partners Conference in Singapore and the ICF Global Conference in Malmo, to name a few. After 33 years living in London, Myles now lives in Norfolk, England. He was born in Dublin, Ireland in 1959. Myles plays for Norfolk Veterans Tennis team and competes occasionally on the ITF Masters Tour.

In this episode, Robbie was hosted by the Henley Business School Marketing Group for Coaches, where he shares his personal transition from feeling like a newcomer to fully embracing his identity as a coach.

In his talk and the questions that follow, Robbie uses philosopher Ken Wilber's analogy of enlightenment being akin to having an accident – something you can't force but can become prone to – to set the stage for his approach to making oneself ‘client-prone’ in the coaching business. While you can't make a client to say yes, there are strategies to increase the likelihood that you will accidentally find yourself with a client.

In this episode, Robbie covers:

The Prosperous Coach Flywheel, and how it can create a virtuous cycle that naturally leads to a growing coaching practice.

The importance of creating a body of work, which serves as a powerful tool for connecting with potential clients before they even meet you and how to use the 12-Minute Method to make a body of work without it being time-consuming.

How to navigate money conversations with confidence and integrity, ensuring that clients understand the value of the coaching experience.

Transitioning from gifted sessions to paid clients.

The session concludes with an audience Q&A, and among many things what comes across is that Robbie's approach to coaching is deeply rooted in authenticity, service, and a commitment to personal growth – both for himself and his clients.

To read Robbie’s latest thinking on Flywheels and coachings businesses, including his newly designed The Coaching Business Flywheel,visit https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel

For more information about Robbie, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/

Read more about The Coach's Journey at www.thecoachsjourney.com.

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community.

THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN:

Robbie’s 100 Podcasts Challenge: https://www.robbieswale.com/writing/2022/2/4/the-12-minute-method-100-podcasts-challenge

Robbie’s 12-Minute Article: The Second Best Time is Now: https://www.robbieswale.com/the-12-minute-blog/2021/12/15/the-second-best-time-is-now

Robbie’s 12-Minute Article: The Lost Relics of our Art: https://www.robbieswale.com/the-12-minute-blog/2021/12/4/the-lost-relics-of-our-art

Robbie’s ebook, An Introduction to the Coaching Business Flywheel, is available for free here: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel

Ken Wilber: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Wilber

Jamie Dru: https://www.jamiedru.com/

Robbie on Jamie’s podcast, The Career Climb: https://www.jamiedru.com/post/climb-08-robbieswale

Katie Harvey on The Coach’s Journey (first appearance): https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-1-katie-harvey-14000-hours-of-coaching-being-part-of-the-uk-coaching-vanguard-and-being-a-generalist-coach

The Prosperous Coach: https://richlitvin.com/book/

Joel Monk on The Coach’s Journey: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-6-joel-monk-conversations-at-the-cutting-edge-of-coaching

BetterUp: https://www.betterup.com/

Elizabeth Gilbert and her book Big Magic: https://www.elizabethgilbert.com/books/big-magic/

Giovanna Cappozza on The Coach’s Journey: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-20-giovanna-capozza

The 12-Minute Method: https://www.robbieswale.com/about-the-12-minute-method

Druss the Legend: https://davidgemmell.fandom.com/wiki/Druss

David Gemmell: http://www.wisdomofgemmell.com/

Jim Collins on the Tim Ferriss Show: https://tim.blog/2019/02/18/jim-collins/

RUNNING ORDER

~7m - Robbie's Journey to Becoming a Coach
~9m - Making Yourself "Client Prone"
~9m - The Five Habits for Growing a Coaching Business
~10m - Exploring Creativity and Overcoming Challenges
~11m - The Importance of Skilled Coaches in the World
~12m - Robbie's Experience and Earnings as a Coach
~13m - The Influence of "The Prosperous Coach" Book
~15m - The Concept of a Flywheel in Business Growth
~19m - The Prosperous Coach Flywheel Explained
~22m - Detailed Breakdown of the Prosperous Coach Flywheel
~25m - How to Oil the Flywheel for Business Growth
~31m - The Role of a Body of Work in Creating Clients
~31m - The Personal Transformation Through Creating Work
~33m - Susan's Question on Money Conversations
~37m - Strategies for Discussing Coaching Fees
~38m - The 90-Day Money Game Challenge
~39m - The Importance of Creating Powerful Coaching Experiences
~40m - Susan's question on the Value of Coaching
~43m - Xenia's question on Transitioning from Free to Paid Sessions

Marie Quigley approaches coaching in much the same way as she does her passion for global travel: with curiosity, openness and an unquenchable desire to explore.

As a Master Certified Coach who has trained with the likes of Brené Brown, Marie can draw upon a wealth of experience and expertise. In this episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast she describes the mindsets and skills that have helped her achieve success as a coach, as a co-founder of coach-training business Empower World, and as co-host of her company’s podcast.

Underpinning all of her achievements are the values and wisdom she gained through life-changing moments while travelling the world, and she shares some of the stories that instilled in her a commitment to live in fulfillment – and help her clients do the same.

Marie believes that we have something to learn from everyone, and she reflects on the profound learning opportunities that arise when our coaching clients trust us enough to allow us into their inner worlds.

In this episode, Marie and host Alex Swallow also talk about:

How to distinguish between what our clients want and what we want for them

The changing mirrors we present to others as we learn, develop and grow

Contracting with clients and how to agree upon ways of working that lead to strong coaching relationships

Daring Leadership and Marie’s experience of training with Brené Brown

The different approaches required to develop as a coach and to grow your business

Marie also shares remarkable techniques she uses in coaching sessions that build attunement through bodily communications and deep listening.

For links to many of the things mentioned in this episode, visit: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/71-marie-quigley-living-in-fulfilment-is-a-radical-act-ybxyl

As the world untangles itself from the aftermath of the coronavirus pandemic, there is important healing work to be done. In this episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, trauma-informed wellbeing and resilience coach Jackee Holder maps out the impact of events on our collective consciousness, and points the way forward for our profession.

A true coaching trailblazer, Jackee was among the very first black coaches in the UK and become one of the first black British authors to publish in the self-help genre when she released Soul Purpose in 1999. From earning her degree in government and politics, Jackee moved into youth and community work, where the quality of listening she received from a supervisor altered her perspective on her own career.

Preferring to describe herself as “a human who gets to be on purpose” than as a coach, Jackee’s work is currently focused on the therapeutic benefits of journaling and expressive writing. This work has taken her into her zone of genius, and she describes the remarkable changes that manifest when we are in alignment with our work.

Jackee opens up about her journey to becoming a successful author, leadership coach and coach supervisor, reflecting on the hardships and the breakthroughs that shaped her remarkable life and career.

In this episode, Jackee and host Ruth Saville also talk about:

·      How journaling can be harnessed as a growth process

·      Moving into coaching without throwing out your old career

·      How to skilfully navigate how you show up in the world without losing your sense of identity

·      Ways to amplify the work you do in your own time: your personal reading, learning and podcast consumption

Jackee also generously shares advice and guidance to anyone interested in becoming a trauma-informed coach, and suggests key reading that can act as a springboard into this work.

For links to many of the things we talked about in this episode, visit: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/73-jackee-holder-trauma-informed-coaches-have-never-been-more-needed

The Coaching Business Flywheel is the culmination of Robbie Swale’s seven years of supporting coaches to grow their coaching businesses and five years of interviewing coaches on this podcast. It is his attempt to take all that work and answer the question: how do you grow a coaching business?

In this episode, the first in a series exploring this question and model, Robbie and Ruth slow down to explain how the Flywheel can support you in creating an authentic, sustainable coaching business.

Robbie shares the origin of The Coaching Business Flywheel, and why he thinks this is an important contribution to the field, including what he got wrong when he first delivered talks and workshops about flywheels and coaching businesses.

In this episode, we cover:

The five fundamental things you HAVE to do as a coach if you want a sustainable business (and why no coach can have a business without them).

How a flywheel can be used to create a virtuous cycle in any business, and what that looks like for coaches.

Why this isn’t six easy steps to six figures in six months.

Why practising each element on the Flywheel is desirable regardless of the business outcomes.

The next episode in the series will be out in a couple of weeks.

To see a diagram of the Coaching Business Flywheel, and read Robbie’s ebook, An Introduction toThe Coaching Business Flywheel,visit https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel

For more information about Robbie, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/

For more information about Ruth , visit http://www.daretorise.co.uk/

Read more about The Coach's Journey at www.thecoachsjourney.com.

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community.

THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN:

A diagram of The Coaching Business Flywheel: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel

Robbie’s ebook, An Introduction to the Coaching Business Flywheel, is available for free here: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel

Robbie’s solo podcast episode about The Coach’s Journey Community and Group Coaching Programmes: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/robbie-on-new-work-group-coaching-tcj-communty

Robbie’s solo podcast episode about using The 12-Minute Method to grow your coaching business: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-35-robbie-swale-12-minute-method

Robbie’s solo podcast episode bringing together videos about the nuts and bolts of a coaching business: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/robbie-on-structure-first-conversations-marketing-price

Robbie’s solo podcast episode bringing together videos about the three key stages of a coaching business: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-12-robbie-on-three-of-the-most-important-parts-of-growing-a-coaching-business-commitment-creating-it-and-doing-your-own-work

Jim Collins on the Tim Ferriss Show: https://tim.blog/2019/02/18/jim-collins/

The Prosperous Coach: https://richlitvin.com/book/

Joel Monk on The Coach’s Journey: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-6-joel-monk-conversations-at-the-cutting-edge-of-coaching

Phil Bolton on The Coach’s Journey: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-2-phil-bolton-from-forensic-accountant-to-the-go-to-career-coach-in-london-and-on-to-work-with-ceos-mds-and-founders

Robbie on The Coaching Inn with Claire Pedrick: https://podtail.com/podcast/the-coaching-inn/s4-episode-11-business-builder-for-coaches-the-coa/

Robbie’s video about The Prosperous Coach Flywheel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2FkyWOIGeQ

Robbie’s talk for Henley Business School Marketing Group for Coaches: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/72-creating-clients-and-cultivating-confidence-a-deep-dive-into-coaching-business-growth-robbie-at-the-henley-business-school-coaching-marketing-group

The Coach’s Journey Community: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/community

In this episode, the second in a series diving into The Coaching Business Flywheel and the fundamental parts of a sustainable coaching business, Robbie and Ruth slow down and take a deep dive into connecting with people.

Robbie tells stories about how working with his coaches supported him to develop a connection practice that is authentic to him and supports the growth of his business. They discuss how to connect with others authentically and why connecting with people might in fact be the most fundamental part of a sustainable coaching business.

In this episode, we cover:

Why you DON’T hate connecting with people to support your coaching business, even if you think you do.

How to make it more likely that the connections you make can become clients.

The power of tracking your connections to raise your awareness and change your mindset.

Tactics for how to talk about your coaching business authentically when people ask you ‘What do you do?’

Listen to the first episode in this series here: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/75-how-to-grow-your-coaching-business. The next will be out in a few weeks.

To see a diagram of the Coaching Business Flywheel, and read Robbie’s ebook, An Introduction toThe Coaching Business Flywheel,visit https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel

For more information about Robbie, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/

For more information about Ruth , visit http://www.daretorise.co.uk/

Read more about The Coach's Journey at www.thecoachsjourney.com.

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community.

THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN:

The first episode in this series, giving an overview of The Coaching Business Flywheel: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/75-how-to-grow-your-coaching-business

A diagram of The Coaching Business Flywheel: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel

Robbie’s ebook, An Introduction to the Coaching Business Flywheel, is available for free here: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel

The Prosperous Coach and Rich Litvin: https://richlitvin.com/book/

Joel Monk on The Coach’s Journey: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-6-joel-monk-conversations-at-the-cutting-edge-of-coaching

Steve Chandler: https://www.stevechandler.com/index.html

The RSA: https://www.thersa.org/

The Coach’s Journey Community: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/community

The Coaching Business Flywheel Booster Pack: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel-booster-pack

This episode is a unique chance to get inside a group coaching call with Robbie Swale.

In it, you can hear Robbie coaching David Norris, Joey Owen, Hazel Martin and Alex Swallow, exactly as he would in one of his group coaching programmes for coaches or leaders.

It demonstrates the way that he runs The Coach's Journey Community, which is his flexible, affordable group coaching programme for coaches, designed to support them to create thriving businesses and thrive as they do that. It shows both the practical value of working in this way and the incredible - almost magical - synchronicity that can emerge in work like this.

In particular, we worked together on:

How to finish a year strong, when doing so means you have to go against what society expects of you.

How to be proud of the way we interact with our children rather than ashamed.

Time, boundaries and how not to resent the people we love when they interrupt us.

How to be a professional coach when there are many things buffetting us in our personal lives.

But most importantly, this gives you a chance to feel the multiple levels of learning available in a group experience as a coach: learning from what the coaches bring as clients and how Robbie coaches them (and what you might do similarly or differently).

We hope we might see you on a similar call as part of The Coach’s Journey Community sometime soon - now is a great time to join, as the September and November calls are available to Diamond Members, meaning you can sign up for £20, try it out and if it’s not the right thing for you, cancel any time. Learn more at https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/community.

For more information about Robbie, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/

To find out about the other coaches on this episode, visit the links below:

David Norris: https://www.davidnorriscoaching.com/

Joey Owen: https://joeyowencoaching.com/ and https://freedomtolearn.org.uk/

Hazel Martin:https://www.linkedin.com/in/hazelmartinexecutivecoaching/

Alex Swallow: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexswallow/ and http://theinfluenceexpert.com/store/ (where you can get Alex's book about influence)

Read more about The Coach's Journey at www.thecoachsjourney.com.

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community.

THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN:

Watch the video version of this coaching session and follow us on YouTube here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANwh_WKq9_Q

The David Gemmell story Robbie shared is in full, here: http://www.wisdomofgemmell.com/the-pebble-in-the-moonlight/

The other group coaching call that Robbie mentions is on YouTube is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFBvAVfZrKQ

You can buy the 12-Minute Method books here: https://geni.us/12minutemethodseries

The Coach’s Journey Community: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/community

Does the coaching industry privilege the boardroom over the community? And is the intrinsic value of our work reflected in our earnings? What is the potential impact coaching can have in communities that often have less access to coaches?

These questions and many more are explored in this episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, by host Alex Whitton and his guest, Association for Coaching master-accredited coach Mark Bixter.

Mark has applied his coaching skills in a wide variety of settings, working with people who are often unable to access coaching, including in prisons and with those in underprivileged communities. In this episode Mark reflects on how he has created a sustainable and accessible coaching business that aligns with his values and the dialogue that is needed about who is and who is not being served by our profession.

When people hear the words “coach” or “life coach”, they often imagine a person who has achieved some kind of perfect alignment and lives in total harmony with the world. But like many coaches, Mark arrived at the profession following a tumultuous period of his life, and his journey is both relatable and moving.

A former actor and food critic and an accredited celebrant, Mark reflects on the ways all aspects of his life have informed his strengths as a listener and also his growth areas, such as challenging his clients when they need it.

In this episode, Mark and Alex also talk about:

• How coaching is a shared learning journey between client and coach

• The ‘Three Cs’ framework for coaching: contracting, competence and clients’ best interest

• The unique potential of coaching to help people access other forms of help and support

• What to do when you don’t know where your work is going to come from

• The interplay between coaching and mental health

• How our experiences as coaches show up in other aspects of our lives, from parenting to friendships

Mark also discusses the conversations and social media posts that enabled him to make the shift from coaching people he already knew to bringing in clients from beyond his existing network.

For links to many of the things we talked about in this episode, visit: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/74-mark-bixter-to-see-the-true-value-of-coaching-look-beyond-the-fees

Ruth Rochelle’s life and career changed when, in 1979, she met Ariana Huffington and took part in the first Insight Seminar ever to happen in the United Kingdom.

Ruth describes this moment as her invitation into self-reflection, the start of her career, and the time when she started to become the leader in her own life. In Café Royal on London’s Regent Street, with 100 people – including some famous names – she had an experience she calls mindblowing and heart-opening, revealing deep truths that had previously been hidden from view.

In this episode of the Coach’s Journey Podcast, Ruth sheds light on the vast worlds of discovery that opened up to her following that first Insight Seminar, which propelled her into a career as a global facilitator and as a renowned expert on conscious leadership in teams and organisations.

Ruth tells host Joey Owen how her remarkable appetite for learning and exploration also led her to study Internal Family Systems, which now underpins her work as an accredited master executive coach, IFS practitioner, systemic team coach and coaching constellations practitioner.

In this episode, Ruth and Joey also talk about:

Psychosynthesis and other therapeutic models that are harnessed by coaches

How to shift from protective behaviours in order to stand up in your authenticity

The ripple effect and how it can amplify both our limiting patterns and our effective ones

The way systems theory can help us stay in balance and adapt to our current truth

Ruth ends the podcast with a truly vital message about the parts of ourselves that we bring to interactions with others and the roles we all have to play in taking humanity forward.

For more information about Ruth, visit https://www.ruthrochelle.com/

For more information about host Joey Owen, visit http://www.joeyowencoaching.com/

Read more about The Coach's Journey at www.thecoachsjourney.com.

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community.

THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN:

- Ariana Huffington https://www.instagram.com/ariannahuff/?hl=en

- Insight Seminars https://insightseminars.org/

- John Roger https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1988-08-14-vw-882-story.html

- Russell Bishop https://russellbishop.com/about

- Internal Family Systems https://ifs-institute.com/

- Psychosynthesis Coaching, Auburn Howard https://www.psychosynthesiscoaching.co.uk/

- NLP https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuro-linguistic_programming

- Results Unlimited https://www.upwork.com/agencies/1140793201640026112/

- Internal Family Systems Therapy by Richard Schwartz https://www.amazon.co.uk/Internal-Family-Systems-Therapy-Guilford/dp/1572302720

- The Leadership Circle https://leadershipcircle.com/leadership-assessment-tools/leadership-circle-profile/

- Robert Kegan and the Immunity to Change model https://www.gse.harvard.edu/hgse100/story/changing-better#:~:text=Based%20on%2030%20years%20of,distortions%20that%20keep%20you%20from

- AOAC master systems coach https://www.aoac.org/aoac-training-courses/

- Third Space https://www.thirdspace.london/

BIOGRAPHY FROM RUTH

For more than 25 years Ruth has been a coach – an executive and team coach, workshop facilitator, transformational coach and coach supervisor – with private clients and with organisations.

Ruth is an Accredited Master Executive Coach with APECS, an IFS (Internal Family Systems) Practitioner with the IFS Institute and a Coaching Constellations Practitioner, and her clients have included creative professionals, start-up founders, senior managers, young emerging leaders, celebrities, coaches, and many more.

Ruth supports her clients to create and achieve their visions, enrich their relationships, navigate changing circumstances, embark on new life directions, start and grow businesses, address specific challenges, experience greater wellbeing and connect to a meaningful purpose.

In this episode, taken from Robbie’s appearance on Aly King-Smith’s A Listening Life podcast, Robbie gives one of his most most concentrated downloads ever on everything he knows about growing a coaching business.

In particular, Robbie and Aly cover:

Why, despite being a prolific writer and producer of content, Robbie thinks content creation is a terrible way to grow a coaching business.

How Robbie reframed proposals and pitching to an opportunity to practice, and the difference that can make.

A deep-dive into pricing and money, including how Robbie started from £30 per session and how he grew from there.

The Coaching Business Flywheel - to see a diagram of Flywheel, and read Robbie’s ebook, An Introduction toThe Coaching Business Flywheel,visit https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel

This episode is packed with practical advice and personal anecdotes from Robbie’s journey in the coaching industry. Whether you're a new coach or an experienced practitioner, Robbie's insights on pricing, client acquisition, and content creation offer valuable lessons for building a sustainable and profitable coaching business.

For more information about Robbie, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/

For more information about Aly and A Listening Life, visit https://www.linkedin.com/in/alykingsmith/ and https://open.spotify.com/episode/6wGHaf6oeebH6qFbTwZHsy?si=ciFxJttsRa64Poo_qmIvyA

Read more about The Coach's Journey at www.thecoachsjourney.com.

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community.

THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN:

The 12 Minute Method: https://www.robbieswale.com/about-the-12-minute-method

Joel Monk: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-6-joel-monk-conversations-at-the-cutting-edge-of-coaching

Rich Litvin and The Prosperous Coach: https://richlitvin.com/book/

Steven Pressfield and The War of Art: https://stevenpressfield.com/books/the-war-of-art/

Jim Collins on the Tim Ferriss Show: https://tim.blog/2019/02/18/jim-collins/

Good to Great by Jim Collins: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Good-Great-Some-Companies-Others/dp/0066620996

Turning the Flywheel by Jim Collins: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Turning-Flywheel-Monograph-Accompany-Great/dp/0062933795

Brené Brown on Teddy Roosevelt: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-JXOnFOXQk&t=0s

RUNNING ORDER

~5m - Realizing Coaching Could Be a Commercial Success
~8m - Setting Initial Coaching Rates
~10m - The 90 Day Money Game
~12m - Increasing Proposal Amounts
~13m - Overcoming Internal Dialogue and Resistance
~14m - The Importance of Making Proposals
~16m - Learning from Pitching and Proposals
~20m - Overcoming Fear of Rejection
~21m - Creating Content and Its Role in Coaching
~22m - Avoiding Procrastination in Business Building
~26m - The Coaching Business Flywheel Concept
~33m - Authenticity in Content Creation
~36m - Direct Invitations vs. Content Creation
~39m - Podcast as a Long-Term Strategy
~42m - Research Projects as an Alternative to Podcasting
~45m - Robbie's Experience with Writing and Podcasting

In this episode, the third in a series diving into The Coaching Business Flywheel and the fundamental parts of a sustainable coaching business, Robbie and Ruth slow down and take a deep dive into perhaps the most powerful step in the Flywheel for taking control of the future of your coaching business. That is: making offers and, in particular, offering people the opportunity to experience you more.

Robbie explains why giving people opportunities to experience you makes your sales easier and easier, and shares stories about how to give people the most undiluted, pure experience of you.

If you’re feeling stuck or hopeless in your business, this is the episode for you.

We cover:

Practical ways you can offer people opportunities to experience you more.

How powerful inviting people into coaching conversations can be and how to do that with integrity.

How a conversation on a training course took Robbie out of scarcity in his business and got him into action.

The pitfalls and doubts that we run into when making offers to people, and why we shouldn’t listen to them.

Listen to the first episode in this series, giving an overview of the Flywheel and why it matters here:  https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/75-how-to-grow-your-coaching-business

And listen to the second, about using connections to create coaching clients here: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/77-how-to-make-connections-who-become-clients-coaching-business-fundamentals

The next episode will be out in a few weeks - sign up to our mailing list here to be the first to hear about it. https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/subscribe

To see a diagram of the Coaching Business Flywheel, and read Robbie’s ebook, An Introduction toThe Coaching Business Flywheel,visit https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel

For more information about Robbie, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/

For more information about Ruth , visit http://www.daretorise.co.uk/

Read more about The Coach's Journey at www.thecoachsjourney.com.

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community.

THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN:

The first episode in this series, giving an overview of The Coaching Business Flywheel: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/75-how-to-grow-your-coaching-business

The second episode in the series, focusing on Connecting with People: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/77-how-to-make-connections-who-become-clients-coaching-business-fundamentals

A diagram of The Coaching Business Flywheel: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel

Robbie’s ebook, An Introduction to the Coaching Business Flywheel, is available for free here: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel

The Prosperous Coach and Rich Litvin: https://richlitvin.com/book/

Brené Brown: https://brenebrown.com/

Katie Harvey on The Coach’s Journey: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-1-katie-harvey-14000-hours-of-coaching-being-part-of-the-uk-coaching-vanguard-and-being-a-generalist-coach

Robbie’s 12-Minute Method: https://www.robbieswale.com/about-the-12-minute-method

Allegra Stein on The Coach’s Journey: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-22-allegra-stein-how-to-flourish-as-a-coaching-misfit

Lindsey Lewis on The Coach’s Journey: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-47-lyndsey-lewis-turning-torment-into-talent

Joel Monk (Coaches Rising) on The Coach’s Journey: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-6-joel-monk-conversations-at-the-cutting-edge-of-coaching

Minor Arias on The Coach’s Journey: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-3-minor-arias-living-by-design-glz56

Steve Chandler: https://www.stevechandler.com/index.html

Carolyn Freyer Jones: https://carolynfreyerjones.com/

The Coach’s Journey Community: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/community

The Coaching Business Flywheel Booster Pack: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel-booster-pack

This episode is the fourth in a series diving into The Coaching Business Flywheel and the fundamental parts of a sustainable coaching business. In it, Robbie and Ruth dive into the power of focusing our energy and action on creating insight, and how, if we create insight enough, we almost can’t help but have the coaching business we want.

Robbie shares why he believes that the more we can create insight for someone before they become a client, the better it is for our businesses, and outlines just how powerful creating insight can be for putting energy into our business that will pay back again, and again, and again.

We cover:

What is insight and why does it matter?

The advantages of ‘The Prosperous Coach Approach’ and just coaching people even before they are clients. (We touch on the disadvantages, too.)

Why we forget that we know MANY ways to create insight for people.

A question you can ask yourself every day to get into action building your coaching business.

Listen to the first episode in this series, giving an overview of the Flywheel and why it matters here:  https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/75-how-to-grow-your-coaching-business

The second, about using connections to create coaching clients, is here: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/77-how-to-make-connections-who-become-clients-coaching-business-fundamentals

The third, focusing on offering people the opportunity to experience you more, is here: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/80-dont-wait-for-coaching-clients-create-them-coaching-business-fundamentals

The next episode will be out soon – sign up to our mailing list here to be the first to hear about it.

To see a diagram of the Coaching Business Flywheel, and read Robbie’s ebook, An Introduction to The Coaching Business Flywheel, visit https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel

For more information about Robbie, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/

For more information about Ruth , visit http://www.daretorise.co.uk/

Read more about The Coach's Journey at www.thecoachsjourney.com.

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community.

THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN:

The first episode in this series, giving an overview of The Coaching Business Flywheel: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/75-how-to-grow-your-coaching-business

The second episode in the series, focusing on Connecting with People: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/77-how-to-make-connections-who-become-clients-coaching-business-fundamentals

The third, focusing on offering people the opportunity to experience you more, is here: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/80-dont-wait-for-coaching-clients-create-them-coaching-business-fundamentals

A diagram of The Coaching Business Flywheel: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel

Robbie’s ebook, An Introduction to the Coaching Business Flywheel, is available for free here: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel

The Prosperous Coach and Rich Litvin: https://richlitvin.com/book/

Robbie’s video on how to structure a conversation with a potential client, and loads of other practical videos are here: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/videos

Claire Pedrick on The Coach’s Journey: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-44-claire-pedrick-cutting-through-complexity-and-simplifying-coaching

Neil Mackinnon on The Coach’s Journey: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-57-neil-mackinnon-when-you-step-into-the-hallowed-ground-of-coaching-show-up

Lindsey Lewis on The Coach’s Journey: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-47-lyndsey-lewis-turning-torment-into-talent

Toku McCree on The Coach’s Journey: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-15-toku-mccree-sales-with-honour-and-love-on-the-end-of-a-sword

Giovanna Capozza on The Coach’s Journey: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-20-giovanna-capozza

Jackee Holder on The Coach’s Journey: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/73-jackee-holder-trauma-informed-coaches-have-never-been-more-needed

Iyanla Vanzant: https://iyanla.com/

The video Ruth mentioned about “Imposter Syndrome”, featuring Reshma Saujani: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoHDDgeQtlc

Ruth’s website – sign up to her mailing list to find out when you can next access her free course: https://www.daretorise.co.uk/

Robbie’s 12-Minute Method: https://www.robbieswale.com/about-the-12-minute-method

The Coach’s Journey Community: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/community

The Coaching Business Flywheel Booster Pack: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel-booster-pack

George Warren describes “growth through discomfort” as a key theme in his life and in this episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, he lays down a challenge to the coaching industry to step out of its comfort zone and explore questions that might challenge the very foundations of our work.

While many of us place the principles of being client-led and non-directive at the centre of our practice, George views coaching through a lens of universal interconnectedness where there is always more than one voice to consider.

Drawing upon Gestalt psychology, Eastern mysticism and his experiences as a solo traveller in the Middle East, George’s work highlights the unique role coaching can play in finding answers to some of society’s most pressing questions, from global conflicts to the loneliness epidemic.

In this conversation with host Neil Mackinnon, George describes how his innate emotional sensitivity became a “nuclear reactor”, fuelling him along a path from the world of luxury travel sales to the cultivation of a deeper connection with the environment through coaching.

In this episode, George and Neil also talk about:

The complimentary tools of support and challenge

Why George believes coaches do not need a niche

How supervision can become “an amphitheatre of profound learning”

The “beautiful gift” of ignorance when working with new clients

George ends this episode by placing coaching at a fascinating crossroads, describing contrasting futures that might lie ahead depending on the choices we all make in the coming years.

- Coaching for Performance by Sir John Whitmore -https://www.performanceconsultants.com/resources/coaching-for-performance-book/

- The GROW Model - https://www.performanceconsultants.com/resources/the-grow-model/

- Animas - https://www.animascoaching.com/

- Anita Rolls (https://careerintelligenceacademy.com/about-us/) and Karen Smart (https://www.aoec.com/author-page/karen-smart-author/) at AOEC

- AoEC https://www.aoec.com/

- ILM https://www.i-l-m.com/

ICF https://coachingfederation.org/

- AC https://www.associationforcoaching.com/

- EMCC https://emccuk.org/Public/default.aspx

- The Body Keeps the Score by Bessel van der

Kolk https://www.besselvanderkolk.com/resources/the-body-keeps-the-

score

- AOCS https://www.linkedin.com/company/aocs-association-of-coaching-

supervisors/

- Myles Downey on The Coach's Journey Podcast https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/69-myles-downey-what-is-effective-coaching-performance-coaching-when-to-be-directive-changing-clients-maps-of-reality-and-more

- Ian McGilchrist https://channelmcgilchrist.com/

- The Edge of Coaching https://edgeofcoaching.substack.com/

- George Warren Coaching https://www.georgewarrencoaching.com/

- BACP Article https://www.bacp.co.uk/bacp-journals/coaching-

today/january-2024/where-is-the-humanity/

- Coaching in the Climate Crisis, Association for

Coaching https://www.associationforcoaching.com/page/CITCC_podcast_ser

ies

- CCA climate coaching - This this might be the AoEC Certificate in Climate Coaching https://www.aoec.com/programmes/certificate-climate-coaching/

- Hetty Einzig https://hettyeinzig.co.uk/

This episode is the fifth in a series diving into The Coaching Business Flywheel and the fundamental parts of a sustainable coaching business. In this episode, Robbie and Ruth focus on the part of the Flywheel that often creates the most fear and resistance for coaches: telling people how you work, how much it costs and how to pay you.

It couldn’t be clearer that unless you do this, there are no clients to coach. And yet, so many of us are filled with fear, hesitance and/or ickyness when it comes to the money conversation. In this conversation, we’ll try to change that.

We cover:

Resourcesand tactics that can help you think about how YOU want to work with clients, and how to talk about that authentically.

How to rewrite your stories about money.

Why buying coaching for yourself will make ALL the difference to your money conversations.  

How to change the default so that you tell more people how you work and how much it costs, instead of almost never doing that.

Listen to the first episode in this series, giving an overview of the Flywheel and why it matters here:  https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/75-how-to-grow-your-coaching-business

The second, about using connections to create coaching clients, is here: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/77-how-to-make-connections-who-become-clients-coaching-business-fundamentals

The third, focusing on offering people the opportunity to experience you more, is here: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/80-dont-wait-for-coaching-clients-create-them-coaching-business-fundamentals

The fourth, focusing on creating insight, is here: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/82-want-more-clients-create-more-insight-coaching-business-fundamentals

The next episode will be out soon – sign up to our mailing list here to be the first to hear about it: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/subscribe

To see a diagram of the Coaching Business Flywheel, and read Robbie’s ebook, An Introduction toThe Coaching Business Flywheel,visit https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel

For more information about Robbie, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/

For more information about Ruth , visit http://www.daretorise.co.uk/

Read more about The Coach's Journey at www.thecoachsjourney.com.

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community.

THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN:

The first episode in this series, giving an overview of The Coaching Business Flywheel: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/75-how-to-grow-your-coaching-business

The second episode in the series, focusing on Connecting with People: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/77-how-to-make-connections-who-become-clients-coaching-business-fundamentals

The third, focusing on offering people the opportunity to experience you more, is here: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/80-dont-wait-for-coaching-clients-create-them-coaching-business-fundamentals

The fourth, focusing on creating insight for people, is here: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/82-want-more-clients-create-more-insight-coaching-business-fundamentals

A diagram of The Coaching Business Flywheel: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel

Robbie’s ebook, An Introduction to the Coaching Business Flywheel, is available for free here: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel

The Coach’s Journey videos page: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/videos

Rich Litvin – The Art of the Proposal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjwzfLIA8w0

The Prosperous Coach and Rich Litvin: https://richlitvin.com/book/

Robbie’s brother, Ewan Townhead, on money: https://www.ewantownhead.com/money-is-not-what-you-think-it-is/

Jen Sincero – You Are a Badass At Making Money: https://www.amazon.co.uk/You-Are-Badass-Making-Money/dp/0735222975

Joel Monk on The Coach’s Journey: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-6-joel-monk-conversations-at-the-cutting-edge-of-coaching

Giovanna Capozza on The Coach’s Journey: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-20-giovanna-capozza

Robbie’s article - 6 Reasons Why Hiring a Coach is the Most Important Thing For You to Do If You Want a Successful Coaching Business: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/writing/6-reasons-why-hiring-a-coach-is-the-most-important-thing-for-you-to-do-if-you-want-a-successful-coaching-business

Toku McCree on The Coach’s Journey: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-15-toku-mccree-sales-with-honour-and-love-on-the-end-of-a-sword

The Coach’s Journey Community: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/community

The Coaching Business Flywheel Booster Pack: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel-booster-pack

This is the sixth and final episode in a series diving into The Coaching Business Flywheel and the fundamental parts of a sustainable coaching business. In this episode, Robbie and Ruth get to grips with the final part of the flywheel, the thing we all got into this coaching thing for: working with clients.

They share the most effective ways to make your coaching more powerful and useful for your clients and – more than that – how to make your coaching more likely to create future referrals and connections, making each client coached a seed planted that could sprout as new business at any time.

The episode is packed with ways to create more referrals: get your pens ready and start thinking about how to turn the ideas in this episode into actions you can take.

In particular, Robbie and Ruth cover:

How to use the science of deliberate practice to improve your work as a coach.

The ONE question to ask yourself to help generate more referrals from your clients.

The two most important qualities to make your coaching more impactful.

Why having a niche can be really useful as a coach.

We hope you’ve enjoyed this series – we certainly have. The shownotes on this page and the other episode pages are a treasure trove of resources to help you with your business – but if you want more, consider joining The Coach’s Journey Community.

Listen to the first episode in this series, giving an overview of the Flywheel and why it matters here:  https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/75-how-to-grow-your-coaching-business

The second, about using connections to create coaching clients, is here: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/77-how-to-make-connections-who-become-clients-coaching-business-fundamentals

The third, focusing on offering people the opportunity to experience you more, is here: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/80-dont-wait-for-coaching-clients-create-them-coaching-business-fundamentals

The fourth, focusing on creating insight, is here: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/82-want-more-clients-create-more-insight-coaching-business-fundamentals

The fifth, focusing on talking about how you work and how much it costs, is here: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/83-if-you-want-to-make-more-money-talk-about-money-more-coaching-business-fundamentals

More episodes on the nuts and bolts of coaching businesses are coming soon – sign up here to be the first to hear about them: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/subscribe

To see a diagram of the Coaching Business Flywheel, and read Robbie’s ebook, An Introduction toThe Coaching Business Flywheel,visit https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel

For more information about Robbie, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/

For more information about Ruth , visit http://www.daretorise.co.uk/

Read more about The Coach's Journey at www.thecoachsjourney.com.

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community.

THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN:

The first episode in this series, giving an overview of The Coaching Business Flywheel: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/75-how-to-grow-your-coaching-business

The second episode in the series, focusing on Connecting with People: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/77-how-to-make-connections-who-become-clients-coaching-business-fundamentals

The third, focusing on offering people the opportunity to experience you more, is here: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/80-dont-wait-for-coaching-clients-create-them-coaching-business-fundamentals

The fourth, focusing on creating insight for people, is here: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/82-want-more-clients-create-more-insight-coaching-business-fundamentals

The fifth, focusing on talking about how you work and how much it costs, is here: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/83-if-you-want-to-make-more-money-talk-about-money-more-coaching-business-fundamentals

A diagram of The Coaching Business Flywheel: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel

Robbie’s ebook, An Introduction to the Coaching Business Flywheel, is available for free here: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel

The ONE Thing by Gary Keller: https://the1thing.com/book/

Outliers by Malcolm Gladwell: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Outliers-Story-Success-Malcolm-Gladwell/dp/0141036257

Bounce by Matthew Syed: https://www.matthewsyed.co.uk/book/bounce-the-myth-of-talent-and-the-power-of-practice/

Myles Downey on The Coach’s Journey the first time: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-31-myles-downey

Myles Downey on The Coach’s Journey the second time: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/69-myles-downey-what-is-effective-coaching-performance-coaching-when-to-be-directive-changing-clients-maps-of-reality-and-more

The Inner Game of Tennis by Timothy Gallwey: https://theinnergame.com/inner-game-books/the-inner-game-of-tennis/

Katie Harvey on The Coach’s Journey: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-1-katie-harvey-14000-hours-of-coaching-being-part-of-the-uk-coaching-vanguard-and-being-a-generalist-coach

Gary Buxton’s Coaches Walks in the North West: https://www.garybuxton.co.uk/walk

Ruth Richards’ Coaches Walks: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ruth-richards-46153a23/

Claire Pedrick’s Coaches Walks in the Malverns and a LinkedIn Group for coaches walking everywhere: https://www.linkedin.com/groups/12827884/

Julie Starr Reflection Form: https://learnstarr.com/courses/the-coaching-manual-free-downloads/

Jim Dethmer on Coaches Rising Podcast: https://www.coachesrising.com/podcast/jim-dethmer-coaching-from-source/

Robbie’s article, Recommiting Is The Journey: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/writing/recommitting-is-the-journey

The Meaning Revolution by Fred Kofman: https://www.fredkofman.org/lrds-ing.php

Robbie’s article, It’s Time For You To Die: https://www.robbieswale.com/the-12-minute-blog/2021/12/15/its-time-for-you-to-die

Mike Toller on The Coach’s Journey: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-32-mike-toller

The Coach’s Journey videos page: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/videos

Kim Morgan on The Coach’s Journey: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-25-kim-morgan

Robbie’s friend, Nina O’Farrell: https://www.ninaofarrell.com/

Jackee Holder on The Coach’s Journey: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/73-jackee-holder-trauma-informed-coaches-have-never-been-more-needed

The Coach’s Journey Community: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/community

The Coaching Business Flywheel Booster Pack: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel-booster-pack

Gary Buxton admits he spends his life stuck in rabbitholes. As a psychologist and executive coach, he loves nothing more than to geek out about the evidence base for coaching, ensuring his own practice is built on the latest science.

While Gary is a firm believer that coaching is always a process and never a destination, in this episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast he warns against the pitfalls of being overwhelmed by study, reminding us that it is through practice that we cultivate and nurture our own unique coaching stance.

Gary’s own journey has encompassed work as a director, CEO and head hunter in the private sector, as well as helping people back into work in the social impact sector, honing his coaching skills in diverse, challenging settings.

Awarded an MBE in 2014 for Services to the Young People of England, Gary now trains new coaches on the Barefoot Coaching postgraduate programme, He is a qualified coach mentor and coach supervisor with ICF, and is on his way to becoming a chartered coaching psychologist with the British Psychological Society.

In conversation with host Ruth Saville, Gary explores a vibrant array of concepts from psychology and coaching that centre around creating balance in our lives and having our value reflected in our work.

In this episode, Gary and host Ruth Saville also talk about:

·      The benefits of keeping a third of your time free for play

·      How to nurture your task-positive and default mode networks

·      What psychologists have to teach coaches...and vice versa!

·      How to turn your friends into your marketing department

Gary also speaks about how to hold onto the value of your work in a coaching landscape filling up with new tools, technology and solutions, and how to put enough of yourself out into the world to allow people to choose you.

Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):

Academy of Executive Coaching https://www.aoec.com/

British Psychological Society https://www.bps.org.uk/

Lisa Feldman Barrett https://lisafeldmanbarrett.com/

Barefoot Coaching https://barefootcoaching.co.uk/

Robert Holden https://www.robertholden.com/

ICF https://coachingfederation.org/

Three Principles and Sydney Banks https://threeprinciplesfoundation.org/about-sydney-banks

Coaching Psychology Network https://www.thecoachingpsychologynetwork.com/

BetterUp https://www.betterup.com/en-gb

CoachHub https://www.coachhub.com/en/

Know You More https://www.knowyoumore.com/

Rich Litvin https://richlitvin.com/

The Little ACT Workbook by Michael Sinclair https://www.hachette.co.uk/titles/michael-sinclair/the-little-act-workbook/9781780592435/

The Coach’s Casebook by Kim Morgan and Geoff Watts https://barefootcoaching.co.uk/product/the-coachs-casebook-kim-morgan-geoff-watts-2015/

Simplifying Coaching by Claire Pedrick https://www.3dcoaching.com/shop/simplifying-coaching/

Erik de Haan https://instituteofcoaching.org/erik-de-haan

In this TCJ Short, an excerpt from Episode #53, you can hear Sarah Fox and Robbie outlining powerful and simple ways for a coach (and any freelancer or self-employed person) to take control of their finances and manage them more skilfully: both for now, and for the future.

In particular, they talk about:

Separating priceless you from the business and work you do so you can get clear on your numbers.

The practical change that Robbie made that transformed both how well his finances are organised and how he felt about it.

How these changes affect how we feel about investing in our business.

Why a rainy day account is VERY important for coaches.

The insight that stopped Robbie procrastinating and finally made him take control of his finances.

And all in just a few minutes!

Listen back to Episode #53 in full here, for Sarah’s story and many amazing ideas and tips for you and your coaching business: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-53-sarah-fox-how-to-do-good-in-the-world-and-do-well-for-yourself

For more information about Sarah, visit http://www.sarahfox.co.uk/.

For more information about this episode’s host, Robbie Swale, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/

Read more about The Coach's Journey at www.thecoachsjourney.com.

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community.

Amy Brann has been studying neuroscience since she was 15.

Now, as the founder of Synaptic Potential, she brings all that expertise to working with organisations to create meaningful change backed by scientific underpinnings.

Named 2023 HR Most Influential Thinker, Amy is the author of three books about neuroscience, including Neuroscience For Coaches, which is on the reading lists of many of the best coach training organisations and forms the foundation for this episode: a deep dive into how to make coaching and learning really work.

In conversation with The Coach’s Journey Founder Robbie Swale, Amy busts myths, teaches hard-to-understand science in ways we can grasp, and tells a story of hope and optimism for what is possible if we can understand brain science and move towards our Whole Brain Potential.

In particular, Amy and Robbie talk about:

The pitfalls of setting high expectations with your clients and how to avoid them.

The neuroscience of visualisations, and how to use them effectively to increase autonomy for your clients.

Crucial areas of neuroscience for coaches to know about: neuroplasticity, mirror neurons and more.

Why trust is one of the things coaches should pay more attention to and how to do that.

Plus Amy coaches Robbie live on how to let his emotions help him pay attention to the right things.

For more information about Amy, visit https://neuroscienceforcoaches.com/resources/, ttps://www.linkedin.com/in/amybrann/ or https://synapticpotential.com/

For more information about host Robbie Swale, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/

Read more about The Coach's Journey at www.thecoachsjourney.com.

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community.

THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN:

The Reticular Activating System note from Amy: ‘The reticular activating system spans an extensive portion of the brainstem. Most of the neurons comprising the midbrain reticular formation lie dorsal and lateral to the red nuclei. Complex interactions between multiple neurotransmitters modulate the action of the reticular activating system with both cholinergic and adrenergic neurotransmission having key roles. The reticular activating system's fundamental role is regulating arousal and sleep−wake transitions. The ascending reticular activating system projects to the intralaminar nuclei of the thalami, which projects diffusely to the cerebral cortex. The ascending projections of the reticular activating system enhance the attentive state of the cortex and facilitate conscious perception of sensory stimuli. Additionally, the collective role of the brainstem reticular formation is to regulate autonomic function, muscle reflexes, and tone.’ B.L. Walter, A.G. Shaikh, in Encyclopedia of the Neurological Sciences (Second Edition), 2014 - note from Robbie: So it is part of the brain, but only a small part of it is about attention/conscious perception. To fully understand this, we’ll have to invite Amy back on the show!

Curly Martin - The Life Coaching Handbook: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Life-Coaching-Handbook-Everything-effective/dp/1899836713/

Katie Harvey on The Coach’s Journey Podcast: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-1-katie-harvey-14000-hours-of-coaching-being-part-of-the-uk-coaching-vanguard-and-being-a-generalist-coach

Seth Godin - The Bannister Method: https://seths.blog/2018/03/the-bannister-method/

Jacinta Jimenez on The Coach’s Journey Podcast: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-26-jacinta-jimenez-the-burnout-fix-betterup

The Maya Angelou quote: https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/5934-i-ve-learned-that-people-will-forget-what-you-said-people

Antonio Damasio - The Somatic Marker Hypothesis: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somatic_marker_hypothesis

Unconscious Incompetence -> Unconscious Competence: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_stages_of_competence

Richard Strozzi-Heckler: https://strozziinstitute.org/staff/richard-strozzi-heckler/

Jeffrey Schwarz: https://jeffreymschwartz.com/

Dan Siegel: https://drdansiegel.com/

Henry Stapp: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Stapp

Zoe, the personalised dieting company: https://zoe.com/

BIOGRAPHY FROM AMY BRANN

Amy is the founder of Synaptic Potential, a consultancy that supports sustainable high performance enabling people to contribute more to their organisation by working smarter not harder. She is an author and a global speaker who’s ‘Fact not Fluff’ approach is a welcome authority in a world awash with questionable theories. She passionately believes that a great way to achieve your full potential in life and work is by knowing more about how your brain works so you can work with it. Her ombination of scientific expertise and practical real-world experience give audiences easy-to-implement frameworks that uplift brain performance.

Over the past 20 years, Amy has been trusted by hundreds of businesses of all shapes and sizes across the globe, including Tesco, Warner Brother, EY, Twinings, Novartis and BNP Paribas, sharing fresh evidence-based insights that challenge people’s status quo, and delivering practical frameworks on how to improve performance and close the potential-performance gap that stops individuals and organisations achieving their Whole Brain Potential TM. As frequent keynote speaker at international business events, Amy gives audiences invaluable bite-sized, actionable takeaways based on the latest neuroscience research that leaders, managers and teams can implement in their daily work practices to improve key skills from creativity through to decision-making.

Over the years, Synaptic Potential have partnered with The Wales Centre for Behaviour Change to support organisations, the Moller Institute at Cambridge University to deliver programmes and Manchester Metropolitan University to lead the neuroscience component of the Masters of Sports Directorship.

Amy is the author of three compelling books - Make Your Brain Work, Neuroscience for Coaches, and Engaged: The Neuroscience Behind Creating Productive People in Successful Organizations - that show organizations practical ways to approach people development through the lens of neuroscience.

In this TCJ Short, an excerpt from Episode #47, you can hear Lindsey Lewis describing the six key skills she had to develop in order to create a successful coaching business, inspired by experts in the field like Amber Krysz, Carolyn Freyer Jones and Steve Chandler.

Lindsey outlines the skills, and then she and Robbie and dive into some of them in detail. The things Robbie and Lindsey discuss here give practical texture to some of the stages of The Coaching Business Flywheel.

Download the free ebook, An Introduction to the Coaching Business Flywheel here.

Those six skills that every coach needs to build a successful coaching business are:

Being your professional self

Mastering invitations

Running skilful initial conversations

Maiking proposals

Navigating what comes after the proposals

Creating a healthy relationship with money and wealth.

And all in just a few minutes!

Listen back to Episode #47 in full here, for Lindsey’s story and many amazing ideas and tips for you and your coaching business: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-47-lyndsey-lewis-turning-torment-into-talent You’ll also find links to everything Robbie and Lindsey discuss on that page.

For more information about Lindsey, visit https://imlindseylewis.com/coaching/ and https://www.instagram.com/imlindseylewis/

For more information about this episode’s host, Robbie Swale, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/

Read more about The Coach's Journey at www.thecoachsjourney.com.

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community.

FOR LINKS TO EVERYTHING DISCUSSED IN THIS EPISODE, VISIT: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-47-lyndsey-lewis-turning-torment-into-talent

This short episode contains the answer to one of the questions Robbie gets asked the most, a question that is really hard to answer as you set out on your journey as a coach: how do I choose a coaching training programme?

There are links to most of the people Robbie mentioned, as well as the article about changing careers, below.

Download Robbie’s ebook, An Introduction to The Coaching Business Flywheel, here.

For more information about Robbie, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/

Read more about The Coach's Journey at www.thecoachsjourney.com.

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community.

THINGS ROBBIE MENTIONED THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN

- Robbie’s article about how to find work you love (look at The Lean Career Change section - skip to number 9): https://www.robbieswale.com/writing/2020/9/11/10-step-process-to-find-work-you-love

Episodes on The Coach's Journey Podcast from people who train/have trained at:

Barefoot Coaching:

Kim Morgan: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-25-kim-morgan

Alex Swallow: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-62-alex-swallow-life-is-better-when-we-choose

Ruth Saville: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-66-ruth-saville-how-to-be-a-rebel-misbehave-more-and-set-your-sights-on-being-a-master-coach

Animas:

Robert Stephenson: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-27-robert-stephenson-animas-how-to-say-yes-and-become-a-conduit-for-change

The Academy of Executive Coaching:

Neil Mackinnon: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-57-neil-mackinnon-when-you-step-into-the-hallowed-ground-of-coaching-show-up

John Monks: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-39-john-monks-closing-the-circle-and-becoming-closer-apart

MOE:

Catriona Horey: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-4-catriona-horey-too-far-away-from-the-joy

Jeffrey Wotherspoon: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-24-jeffrey-wotherspoon

Mark Bixter: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/74-mark-bixter-to-see-the-true-value-of-coaching-look-beyond-the-fees

Alex Whitton: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-64-alex-whitton-balancing-the-being-and-the-doing

Chloe Garland: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-65-chloe-garland-the-jam-donut-principle-quarter-life-crises-and-the-philosophy-of-coaching

But those are just four options - the key thing is to try them out and see what gives you a great feel.

Can coaching teach us to love ourselves more? Can it help us come to terms with injustice and pain? Does it offer a route towards peace?

Executive coach, consultant and facilitator Philip Crocker explores all of these questions in this episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, and shares the wisdom and insights he uses in his work with senior leaders from some of the world’s most innovative organisations.

Philip tells host Alex Whitton what he learned from launching several successful businesses before training as a coach and coach supervisor – an experience he describes as “a brilliant illumination”.

Weaving together threads from physics and human relationships, Philip describes ways to increase the flow of energy between people in coaching conversations, utilising conductivity in much the same way as electrical circuits do.

Philip says his purpose is to help people who feel written off to live a whole life. He is an expert in strategic facilitation and his own podcast, Alongsider, brings people from all walks of life into alignment with each other, allowing them to find their place and also take it.

In this episode, Philip and Alex also talk about:

- How to grow a coaching client base full of the people you need to help you learn and develop.

- Slowing down when finding your niche, and how to navigate towards it.

- The theories and relationships that underpin successful business growth.

- The power of coaching to help people fall in love with themselves more.

- The particular quality of connection that creates influence between people in coaching conversations.

Philip also illuminates the shift we all have to make when we move from the separateness of our education system into the complexity of the world, and how coaching offers a space of integrity that can help us grapple with and utilise that complexity.

Things and people we mentioned (that you might be interested in):

Clare Pedrick https://www.linkedin.com/in/clairepedrick/?originalSubdomain=uk; https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-55-claire-pedrick-and-lucia-baldelli-the-human-behind-the-coach 

Clare’s books Simplifying Coaching and The Human Behind The Coach https://www.3dcoaching.com/shop/book-bundle-human-behind-the-coach-simplifying-coaching-signed-copies/  

Robin Yourston https://www.linkedin.com/in/gandrprobin/?originalSubdomain=uk

Dr. David Rock, Quiet Leadership: Six Steps to Transforming Performance at Work https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2602650-quiet-leadership

Dr. David Rock's SCARF model https://modelthinkers.com/mental-model/scarf-model

Dr Sally Vanson and the Performance Solution https://theperformancesolution.com/the-coaches/dr-sally-vanson/

NLP https://anlp.org/knowledge-base/definition-of-nlp

Carl Jung typology test https://jung.test.typologycentral.com/

ILM Level 7 Leadership and Management https://www.i-l-m.com/learning-and-development/management/management-and-leadership-generic/8617-level-7-leadership-and-management

Human Conductivity https://www.humanconductivity.com/

Debra Green https://roc.uk.com/about/team/debra-green-obe/

Measure What Matters by John Doerr https://www.whatmatters.com/the-book

Jung's personality types https://www.thesap.org.uk/articles-on-jungian-psychology-2/about-analysis-and-therapy/typology/

DISC theory, which employ Jung's personality types  https://discboulevard.com/en/theory-behind-disc/

This short episode contains Robbie’s answer to a question every coach should ask themselves, especially if they want a sustainable coaching business: how do create a powerful ending to a coaching engagement?

It’s so easy as a coach to completely miss the opportunity to create meaning and transformation at the end of our coaching programmes.

But that's what's possible if we pay attention to this key moment in our work.

In this episode Robbie explains:

What I learned about endings from my coaches, like Rich Litvin and Joel Monk.

The exact words I use with clients to help make the ending of our work a part of their transformation.

What I say to create the possibility for more referrals from my clients after our work. 

How we can support our clients to rewrite their scripts around endings.

There are links to most of the people and resources Robbie mentions below.

Download Robbie’s ebook, An Introduction to The Coaching Business Flywheel, here.

For more information about Robbie, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/

Read more about The Coach's Journey at www.thecoachsjourney.com.

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community.

THINGS ROBBIE MENTIONED THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN

The video version of this episode: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/91-how-to-create-a-powerful-ending-to-a-coaching-engagement

Robbie on the Better Bolder Braver Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqhR6lGgNgA

The episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast Flywheel Series about working with clients and creating referrals: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/85-get-more-referrals-for-your-coaching-business-coaching-business-fundamentals

Episode #8 of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, with loads of other nuts and bolts stuff from Robbie: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/robbie-on-structure-first-conversations-marketing-price

His video about working with clients over a period of time not a number of sessions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzeyK2yvWOI&t=0s

Joel Monk on The Coach’s Journey Podcast: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-6-joel-monk-conversations-at-the-cutting-edge-of-coaching

Rich Litvin: https://richlitvin.com/

Claire Pedrick on The Coach’s Journey Podcast: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-44-claire-pedrick-cutting-through-complexity-and-simplifying-coaching

Robbie and Claire Pedrick’s event in Malvern in 2025: The Artful Coach and the Soulful Coaching Business. Read more here: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/robbieswale_the-artful-coach-and-the-soulful-coaching-activity-7285744469444812801-gBzq?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop

In this unique crossover episode of The Coaching Inn and The Coach’s Journey Podcast, hosts Claire Pedrick and Robbie Swale come together for the first time to discuss their upcoming collaborative workshop, The Artful Coach and the Soulful Coaching Business, scheduled for 10th May, 2025. This episode is a delightful blend of humor, insightful conversation, and a deep dive into the themes of artful coaching and soulful business practices.

In particular:

Claire delves into the concept of the Artful Coach and why she prefers that to the idea of ‘mastery’.

Claire unpacks why it’s not coaching when the coach is doing more thinking than the thinker.

Robbie shares the accidental discovery of the phrase, The Soulful Coaching Business, and why it aligns with what he has seen in the coaching industry.

Robbie explains how we can follow our fear to create a business that fulfils us without us having to compromise who we are.

As Claire and Robbie wrap up the episode, it’s easy to feel the excitement and anticipation they have for the upcoming workshop… they hope to see you there!

Book your place on the workshop, The Artful Coach and the Soulful Coaching Business: https://www.tickettailor.com/events/3dcoaching/1504338

Robbie’s longer description of the workshop: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/robbieswale_the-artful-coach-and-the-soulful-coaching-activity-7285744469444812801-gBzq?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop

Book your place on the walk the following day: https://www.tickettailor.com/events/3dcoaching/1206619

Download Robbie’s ebook, An Introduction to The Coaching Business Flywheel, here.

For more information about Robbie, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/

Read more about The Coach's Journey at www.thecoachsjourney.com.

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community.

THINGS WE MENTIONED THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN

Claire on The Coach’s Journey Podcast: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-44-claire-pedrick-cutting-through-complexity-and-simplifying-coaching

Claire on The Coach’s Journey Podcast with Lucia Baldelli, talking about The Human Behind The Coach: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-55-claire-pedrick-and-lucia-baldelli-the-human-behind-the-coach

Robbie on The Coaching Inn: https://thecoachinginn.podbean.com/e/in-conversation-with-robbie-swale-how-to-start-when-you-re-stuck/ and https://thecoachinginn.podbean.com/e/in-conversation-with-robbie-swale/ and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKVEJqdqiTg and https://thecoachinginn.podbean.com/e/s4-episode-24-claire-pedrick-s-3d-supervision-community-with-guest-host-robbie-swale/

Claire’s workshop with Ruth Davey, also in Worcestershire: https://www.tickettailor.com/events/3dcoaching/1506834

Henley Business School: https://www.henley.ac.uk/

Robbie’s ebook, An Introduction to The Coach’s Journey Podcast Flywheel: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel

Fred Kofman: https://www.fredkofman.org/sobre-fred-kofman-ing.php

Elena Aguilar and Mind The Gap: https://www.edweek.org/education/opinion-the-key-to-working-with-adult-learners-mind-the-gap/2018/02

Jennifer Garvey Berger on The Coach’s Journey Podcast: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-42-jennifer-garvey-berger-the-answer-to-either-or-is-both

The War of Art: https://stevenpressfield.com/books/the-war-of-art/

Book your place at Robbie and Claire Pedrick’s event in Malvern in 2025: The Artful Coach and the Soulful Coaching Business. Read more here: https://www.tickettailor.com/events/3dcoaching/1504338

BIOGRAPHY FROM CLAIRE

Claire Pedrick is, in her own words, a human who facilitates other people’s thinking. She is a business owner. A mother. A friend. A volunteer. An MCC Master Coach with over 13,000 hours of experience. And she is the author of Simplifying Coaching and host at The Coaching Inn podcast.

About these descriptions, Claire says: “All of these are true and each will impact how we start a conversation. With some definitions you might assign me power which I do not deserve.”

Claire established 3D Coaching in the 1990s to bring together the simplest and best learning from coaching, to support people in organisations to have more effective conversations with an edge. Coaching for more than 35 years, she believes that the essence of coaching is simple and that it takes time to learn to work that simply.

So many coaches find themselves lost in comparison as they work on their coaching businesses. In this TCJ Short, an excerpt from Episode #42, you can hear developmental psychologist Jennifer Garvey Berger sharing the metaphor she uses to support her clients to gain more perspective on the impossible comparisons they create for themselves.

As Jennifer and Robbie discuss, even just hearing this metaphor will help anyone who finds themselves trapped in comparison to gain even a tiny bit more perspective, so that they can respond differently in the face of comparison pressures.

Listen back to Episode #42 in full here, for Jennifer’s story and many amazing ideas and tips for you and your coaching business, including a broader discussion of comparison for women and the underpinning ideas of complexity and vertical development: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-42-jennifer-garvey-berger-the-answer-to-either-or-is-both You’ll also find links to everything Robbie and Jennifer discuss on that page.

To learn more about Jennifer, visit https://www.cultivatingleadership.com/team-member/jennifer-garvey-berger or https://twitter.com/jgberger.

For more information about this episode’s host, Robbie Swale, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/

Read more about The Coach's Journey at www.thecoachsjourney.com.

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community.

FOR LINKS TO EVERYTHING DISCUSSED IN THIS EPISODE, VISIT:

https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-42-jennifer-garvey-berger-the-answer-to-either-or-is-both

Download Robbie’s FREE ebook, An Introduction to the Coaching Business Flywheel, here: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel

Read about Robbie’s upcoming workshop with Claire Pedrick here: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/robbieswale_the-artful-coach-and-the-soulful-coaching-activity-7285744469444812801-gBzq?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop

Book your place on the workshop, The Artful Coach and the Soulful Coaching Business: https://www.tickettailor.com/events/3dcoaching/1504338

Listen to Robbie and Claire discussing artful coaching and soulful coaching businesses in Episode #92: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/92-the-artful-coach-and-the-soulful-coaching-business-a-joint-episode-with-clare-pedrick-and-robbie-swale

 ABOUT JENNIFER GARVEY BERGER

The co-founder and CEO of Cultivating Leadership, Jennifer blends deep theoretical knowledge with a driving quest for practical ways to make leaders’ lives better. She coaches executives and executive teams, and designs and teaches leadership programs.

Jennifer has written three highly acclaimed books on leadership and complexity and how to grow the capacities we need for the world in which we live. She hopes her newly-released fourth book, Unleash Your Complexity Genius, will change your life.

When she’s not working with clients and colleagues, you can find her in the French countryside, where she has bought a house with eleven friends who live in community and try to keep the dog from terrifying the cats.

In this episode of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, hosts Robbie Swale, Alex Swallow and Alex Whitton reflect on some of their most practical takeaways from over 90 episodes of the show. These are the things that they have taken and used in their coaching and coaching businesses… and you can too!

In particular, they talk about:

Working over a period of time not a number of sessions.

Creating rolling coaching engagements.

Making the invitation to a coaching session a gift.

Using neuroscience in the sales process.

What to do when your client says they need help making a decision.

Constantly humanising ourselves and others.

Focus on serving (and sales and leads being an indicator of that).

Going to the toilet in coaching sessions and creating insight when you do it.

Creating clients by writing on a napkin.

And loads more!

Plus, they open the episode exploring the value of focusing on inspiration, and we get to hear what has been inspiring each of them recently.

There are links to the episodes and resources they discuss in the shownotes below.

Download Robbie’s ebook, An Introduction to The Coaching Business Flywheel, here.

For more information about Robbie, visit https://www.robbieswale.com/

Read more about The Coach's Journey at www.thecoachsjourney.com.

Music by My Good Man William: listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4KmeQUcTbeE31uFynHQLQg

To support the Coach's Journey, visit www.patreon.com/thecoachsjourney and to join the Coach's Journey Community visit www.thecoachsjourney.com/community.

THINGS WE MENTIONED THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN

Free Ebook: An Introduction to the Coaching Business Flywheel: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/the-coaching-business-flywheel

Robert Holden: https://www.robertholden.com/

Jennifer Garvey Berger on The Coach’s Journey Podcast: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-42-jennifer-garvey-berger-the-answer-to-either-or-is-both

Pete McKee: https://www.petemckee.com/

The Invention of Nature - Alexander Humboldt: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Invention_of_Nature

Goethe: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_Wolfgang_von_Goethe

The Coach’s Journey Community: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/community

Chronos and Kairos: https://www.robbieswale.com/the-12-minute-blog/2025/1/24/chronos-and-kairos-enlist-both-the-gods-of-time

Toku McCree’s second appearance on The Coach’s Journey Podcast: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-54-toku-mccree-zen-and-the-art-of-coaching

Claire Pedrick and Lucia Baldelli on The Coach’s Journey Podcast: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/episode-55-claire-pedrick-and-lucia-baldelli-the-human-behind-the-coach

Philip Crocker on The Coach’s Journey Podcast: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/88-philip-crocker-coaching-is-the-most-natural-thing-in-the-world

Episode #8 of The Coach’s Journey Podcast, with loads of other nuts and bolts stuff from Robbie: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/podcast/robbie-on-structure-first-conversations-marketing-price

The Coach’s Journey Video Page: https://www.thecoachsjourney.com/videos