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20 Apr 2022Trailer00:01:44

Welcome to Sustainability in The Air, the world’s first podcast dedicated to sustainable aviation. The show is brought to you by SimpliFlying, the world’s leading aviation marketing strategy firm.

The realm of sustainable aviation is going through a phase of rapid development - from new technologies to sustainable aviation fuel. Airline, airport and travel executives often struggle to make sense of what seems to be a wild-West scenario.

It's about time someone took the leadership to help make sense and guide the industry toward best practices for getting to net zero.

21 Apr 2022Tony Douglas: How Etihad is leading the industry towards a sustainable future00:31:42

Welcome to the first episode of Sustainability In The Air podcast. We launch the podcast on Earth Day 2022 with the discussion between Shashank Nigam, CEO at SimpliFlying and Tony Douglas, Group CEO at Etihad Aviation Group. 
 
 Going forward, trust will require airlines, airports and the entire industry to share how to build a sustainable future. No airline is doing as much as Etihad Airways when it comes to taking measures proactively on sustainability and also communicating about them. In the interview, Tony shares with us the journey of sustainability that Etihad has been on, including the stories of The Sustainable 50 aircraft, why he's betting on carbon offsetting as an immediate solution and the launch of the world's first green loyalty program.

28 Apr 2022How CarbonClick sets the gold standard for carbon offsetting for airlines00:37:52

CarbonClick CEO Dave Rouse and COO Michelle Noordermeer share how radical transparency helped them deliver market leading carbon offsetting programs to top airlines. They open up about the mistrust around planting trees and how it can be overcome. Finally, they share innovations in the field that make carbon offsetting possibly one of the only effective and scalable methods achieving carbon neutral flight today.

05 May 2022How Scott Kirby is making United Airlines a global leader in sustainability00:33:48

The United CEO has committed to twice as much SAF as the rest of the world’s airlines combined, has invested in multiple green technology startups and is personally motivated to leave the world a better place for his seven kids. We deep dive in this engaging conversation.

12 May 2022Universal Hydrogen’s vision to get aviation to net zero00:36:14

Co-Founder of Universal Hydrogen John-Paul Clark dives deep into how hydrogen is a strong medium term solution.

19 May 2022Amy Burr on how JetBlue Technology Ventures is investing in the future of sustainable aviation00:37:11

JetBlue Technology Ventures is unique because it's a corporate venture fund owned by an airline with a mission to further the goals of the entire industry - none of which is more important today than a net-zero future. Amy Burr dives deep into how she and her team are identifying technologies that will make flying greener and perhaps magical too.

26 May 2022How Gevo is making Sustainable Aviation Fuel technology viable for airlines00:41:47

Dr Patrick Gruber, CEO of Gevo, deep dives into using alternative feedstock, blockchain technology and building trust through transparency.

02 Jun 2022How Harbour Air is revolutionising aviation with their electric aircraft technology00:40:51

Greg McDougall discusses early adoption of technology, flying the world’s first  fully-electric commercial airplane and the electric Beaver.

09 Jun 2022How Pratt & Whitney is helping airlines achieve net-zero targets00:37:20

Graham Webb on the future of airplane engines, P&W’s holistic approach to sustainability, disruptive technologies, and the role of efficient engines in reducing carbon emissions.

16 Jun 2022Dan Rutherford on net-zero roadmaps and transitioning to sustainable technologies00:37:22

The International Council on Clean Transportation’s Program Director discusses the challenges and concerns associated with SAF, supersonic aircraft, and what makes him hopeful about the future of aviation.

23 Jun 2022Will the aviation industry ever achieve net-zero?00:22:49

We revisit the first season of our podcast and string together advice and insights from airline and tech CEOs to map out a pathway for the future of sustainability in aviation.

21 Jul 2022Farnborough special: What are the biggest hurdles aviation executives face getting to net zero?00:22:18

In this special episode recorded Live at Farnborough Airshow, hear from top aviation executives on the biggest hurdles the industry faces in building a sustainable future. 

Akbar Al Baker, Qatar Airways
Arturo Barreira, Airbus Latin America
Jane Ashton, easyJet 
Jonathan Wood, Neste
Laia Barbara, WEF
Lauren Riley, United
Nicolas Chrétien, Airbus
Patrick Baudis, MHI RJ
Sheila Remes, Boeing

28 Jul 2022Farnborough special vol. 2: What's the source of the biggest hope and what's the one initiative aviation executives are the most excited about getting to net zero?00:25:58

In this special episode recorded Live at Farnborough Airshow, hear from top aviation executives on what gives them the most hope about a net zero future for aviation and what is the one initiative that they are most excited about getting us to a sustainable future.

Sean Breadshaw, Pratt & Whitney
Arturo Barreira, Airbus Latin America
Jane Ashton, easyJet 
Jonathan Wood, Neste
Laia Barbara, WEF
Lauren Riley, United
Nicolas Chrétien, Airbus
Patrick Baudis, MHI RJ
Sheila Remes, Boeing

22 Sep 2022Can Boom bring supersonics back sustainably?00:43:50

Blake Scholl, CEO of Boom Supersonic, on the revival of supersonics, associated challenges, using 100% SAF and learning from the Concorde.

29 Sep 2022How Star Alliance is facilitating a net-zero future in aviation00:52:06

Jeffrey Goh, CEO of Star Alliance, shares how the alliance is supporting airlines in stepping up their sustainability game.

For more information click on sustainabilityintheair.com. 

06 Oct 2022Why Heart Aerospace's electric aircraft is a gamechanger00:55:22

Anders Forslund, CEO of Heart Aerospace discusses the ES-30 and how regional electric air travel can revolutionise aviation.

For more information click on sustainabilityintheair.com. 

13 Oct 2022How Fiji Airways is preparing for a sustainable future00:33:17

Andre Viljoen, CEO of Fiji Airways discusses the challenges of being in an ecologically sensitive region and how that ties into the airline's sustainability strategy.

19 Oct 2022Why ZeroAvia believes that hydrogen propulsion is the future00:57:15

Val Miftakhov, CEO of ZeroAvia, a startup working on hydrogen propulsion technology, discusses how the best path to a net zero future is via non-combustion fuel technologies.

27 Oct 2022How Amex GBT is building platforms for SAF and Carbon Offsets00:45:41

Nora Lovell Marchant, Vice President of Global Sustainability at American Express Global Business Travel (Amex GBT), shares how the company is preparing for a net zero future through various initiatives.

03 Nov 2022The promise and challenges of the Power to Liquid (PtL) pathway for SAF00:39:00

Christoph Wolff, one of the founders of the World Economic Forum's Clean Skies for Tomorrow Coalition, explains why SAF underpins the long-term sustainability prospects for aviation.

10 Nov 2022Why the aviation industry needs to embrace the circular economy00:53:19

Ramon Sanchez, Principal Investigator at Harvard University urges the industry to work with academia for better sustainability strategies and explains why waiting for SAF to be cheaper is a "lousy strategy".

17 Nov 2022How sustainable aircraft seats can be a game-changer00:43:27

Dr Mark Hiller, CEO at Recaro, discusses the company's localisation strategy, the promise of eLeather, upcycling and much more.

24 Nov 2022An incredible journey around the world on sustainable fuel00:52:03

Matthias Niederhäuser shares how Diamondo Earthrounding connects and promotes initiatives to accelerate sustainable aviation.

01 Dec 2022Avoiding the Greenwashing trap00:42:08

Dirk Singer, Head of Sustainability at SimpliFlying shares how airlines can tackle climate activism and flight shaming while investing in sustainable initiatives.

01 Feb 2023How do you decarbonise a major airport?00:45:42

Dubai International Airport is one of the largest in the world, so reducing its environmental impact is not an easy feat. In this episode we talk to CEO Paul Griffiths about his brilliant approach of focusing relentlessly on constant improvement, no matter how small.

We'll learn about maintaining a net zero trajectory, working with airlines and Paul's personal commitment to living a net zero life.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content about sustainable aviation visit our website simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.


Links & More:

Dubai Airports - Corporate Social Responsibility

Dubai Airports to divert 60% DXB’s waste from landfills by mid-2023


Dubai International Airport sets goal to reduce landfill waste by 60 per cent


Cirium's Global Aircraft Emissions Monitor 


08 Feb 2023The airline with the lowest CO2 emissions in Europe00:51:54

Hungarian low-cost airline Wizz Air has taken the ultra low-cost model a step further to pursue growth and sustainability in tandem. 

In this episode, we talk to Wizz Air Group’s Chief Corporate & ESG Officer, Yvonne Moynihan, about how the carrier has reduced its per seat carbon footprint by 15% since 2019, despite having grown by a remarkable 140% since the pandemic!

We'll learn about why fleet renewal can help airlines achieve significant short-term emissions reduction and how Wizz Air focuses on young travellers and undertakes radical measures and advocacy to stay ahead of its competitors.


Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.


Links & More:

Wizz Air Confirms 75 Airbus A321neo Order

Wizz Air and OMV sign an agreement to supply sustainable aviation fuel

Wizz And Airbus To Collaborate On Hydrogen Aircraft Operations

Wizz Air CEO Calls For Global Ban On Business Class Flying

Wizz Air joins European Commission’s Alliance for Zero-Emission Aviation

Cirium's Global Aircraft Emissions Monitor 

15 Feb 2023The airport of the future will be carbon positive, not just carbon neutral00:40:44

Representing the interests of airports and airport operators across the world, Airports Council International (ACI World) fosters collective action within the industry. With nearly 712 members, and operations spanning 1,925 airports in 171 countries, ACI World contributes to the safety, security and sustainability of global aviation.

In this episode, we talk to ACI World’s Director General Luis Felipe de Oliveira who explains how, as significant emitters of greenhouse gases, airports play a pivotal role in aviation’s journey to net zero. 

On average, airports account for roughly 5% of aviation’s carbon footprint. Airports have varying carbon footprints due to their geographical, cultural and economic intricacies. This, as Luis Felipe puts it, makes each airport a mystery that needs to be understood and unlocked in its specific context. 

We'll learn about how ACI World is nudging airports to be more sustainable through their six-level carbon accreditation programme; the promise and pitfalls of hydrogen and sustainable aviation fuel; the solar energy and green building ecosystem; and the need for the industry to communicate its achievements and challenges as one cohesive unit.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.

Links & More:


The Airport Carbon Accreditation Programme

List of Accredited Airports

Airport Carbon and Emissions Reporting Tool (ACERT)

Swedavia Annual Sustainability Report 2021

Shining a Light on Solar Energy

ACI & ATI launch joint report into the integration of hydrogen aircraft into the air transport system

ATI & ACI World launch new SAF paper


22 Feb 2023How Boeing has been working on a net zero future for over a decade00:50:51

Since aviation remains, more or less, as good as its tools, aircraft manufacturers bear a huge responsibility, especially as we rely on fleet renewal in the short-term to mitigate the carbon impact of aviation.

In this episode, we talk to Boeing’s Vice President of Environmental Sustainability, Sheila Remes who shares how the airframer is collaborating with industry stakeholders to move aviation towards its 2050 net zero goal. 

We’ll learn how Boeing has been busy preparing for the future, whether it is through its ecoDemonstrator flight test program or its dynamic data-model called Cascade for estimating a pathway to net zero or through its impressive repertoire of cross-sectoral partnerships. 

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.

Links & More:

Sustainable aircraft from NASA, Boeing could fly in 2030s 

Boeing Sugar Volt looks to the skies in the year 2035

Boeing: ecoDemonstrator 

Net-Zero Reached? Virgin Atlantic Plans A 100% SAF Passenger Flight Next Year 

Biofuel-powered, laser-loaded Boeing plane of the future visits FedEx hub 

Biochar: the 'black gold' for soils that is getting big bets on offset markets 

Boeing Unveils Model to Show Best Routes to Zero Carbon Future

Waypoint 2050 


28 Feb 2023The company transforming CO2 into clean alcohols and fuel00:29:50

Did you know that Air Company is using thin air to make sustainable aviation fuel, vodka, perfume, sanitiser and more? 

In this episode, we talk to Gregory Constantine, Co-Founder and CEO of  Air Company, who believes that the path to a sustainable future lies – quite literally – in the air. He shares how the company uses the planet’s most abundant pollutant and turns it into a never-ending resource.

We’ll learn how Air Company’s patented carbon utilisation technology aims to free us from over a century-long dependency on fossil fuels by mimicking photosynthesis to utilise CO2 to produce sustainable alcohols and fuel. Their goal is to apply their technology across all possible industries: from the fragrances we wear everyday, to the jet fuel that moves us around the world. 

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.


Links & More:

Carbon Capture Technology: CO2 Conversion & Utilization - Air Company 

Air Vodka: The 100 Best Inventions of 2020 - TIME

TAKE-OFF Consortium EU

Air Company Awarded Additional NASA Funding  

This jet fuel was made by sucking carbon out of the air - Fast Company 

Report: The Carbon Removal Power List - SimpliFlying 


08 Mar 2023Why Airbus is betting big on hydrogen combustion00:35:30

As the largest aircraft manufacturer in the world, Airbus is in a unique position to drive aviation towards a zero-emission future.  

In this episode, we talk to Amanda Simpson, Vice President for Research & Technology (Americas) at Airbus. She shares how the airframer is at the forefront of investing in new technologies and innovations that pioneer the sustainability spirit, chief among them being hydrogen.

Simpson says that over the past decade Airbus has tried a variety of different technologies and the company now firmly believes that hydrogen has the potential to offer a true clean fuel solution. We’ll learn about Airbus’ marquee ZEROe programme that includes as many as three concept aircraft of varying ranges and capacities that will run on hydrogen and could enter service by 2035. We’ll also learn about the role of sustainable aviation fuel, infrastructure challenges with hydrogen, the necessity of clean-sheet design and why hydrogen is more exciting than hydrogen-electric and all-electric designs.

If you LOVED this episode you’ll also love the conversations we had with WIZZ Air’s Yvonne Moynihan on how the airline is using the latest Airbus aircraft to reduce emissions. Check it out here.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.

Links & More:

Airbus ZEROe programme

The ZEROe demonstrator - Airbus

Interview with John-Paul Clarke, Co-Founder of Universal Hydrogen - Sustainability in the Air

Interview with Val Miftakhov, CEO of ZeroAvia - Sustainability in the Air

Universal Hydrogen takes to the air with the largest hydrogen fuel cell ever to fly - TechCrunch 

Airbus prepares for its first megawatt-class hydrogen fuel-cell engine flight-test demonstrator 

Hydrogen for aircraft: number crunching the solution, or the hoax - Hydrogen Science Coalition


15 Mar 2023Why eVTOLS will change the way we live, travel and spend time00:47:45

eVTOLs (electric vertical takeoff and landing) or ‘air taxis’ refer to aircraft that use electric power to take off and land vertically, and are particularly useful in urban areas afflicted with traffic congestion.

In this episode, we talk to Adam Goldstein, CEO and Founder at Archer Aviation. He shares how the company focuses on designing and developing eVTOLs, which they believe will “unlock the skies” and enable everyone to reimagine how they live, travel and manage time. 

Goldstein says these vehicles – which can carry four passengers and a pilot – will not only change the way people move but also allow people to get a lot of time back. “Imagine the trips that you've been taking in your car – it would take you 60, 90, even 120 minutes of sitting in traffic. But you could instead fly to your destination in five or 10 minutes”, he asserts. Such a future is actually closer than we think. Archer aims to get its aircraft certified by the end of 2024 and, along with its partner United Airlines, will begin commercial eVTOL flights in 2025.

If you LOVED this episode, you’ll also love the conversation we had with United Airlines’ Scott Kirby on how the airline is pushing the sustainability envelope. Check it out here.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.


Links & More:

Report: The Urban Air Mobility Power List - SimpliFlying

The underlying eVTOL technology - Archer 

United Airlines' Future eVTOL Revealed: The Archer Midnight - Simple Flying 

Archer Aviation plans to build 250 air taxis in 2025 - Reuters 

Archer lands $1B order from United Airlines and a SPAC deal - TechCrunch 

United partners with Archer to accelerate production of advanced eVTOL aircraft - Future Travel Experience

Archer Aviation Nears Completion of Its First Build, Midnight - Investing.com

Archer Aviation begins construction of manufacturing facility - Flight Global 

Stellantis to mass produce Archer’s electric aircraft in expanded deal - TechCrunch 

22 Mar 2023How Cirium’s data can help drive better sustainability benchmarks and targets00:41:10

As the industry leader in aviation analytics, Cirium assists the aviation industry in predicting future trends through its rich datasets that date back to 1947 and cover over 400,000 aircraft!

In this episode, we talk to Jeremy Bowen, CEO at Cirium. He shares how the company is empowering the industry to reach a more sustainable future with the most accurate aircraft emissions data.

Cirium has a wealth of data that airlines can use today. Their highly-accurate Global Aircraft Emissions Monitor is a valuable starting point for any airline that wants to seriously plan emissions reduction – and, eventually, hit net zero. After all, without the data to measure current baselines, any effort to go green will be a shot in the dark.  

We’ll also learn about the complex data set underlying the emissions calculator; how Cirium ensures their data is transparent, independent of bias and validated; why the future of corporate travel may include carbon budgets; and how one company switched a large corporate travel account from one airline to another based on carbon efficiency considerations.

If you LOVED this episode you’ll also love the conversation we had with International Council on Clean Transportation’s Dan Rutherford on the data behind sustainability and the trajectory airlines and governments need to follow to get to net-zero emissions. Check it out here.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.


Links & More:

Cirium Sustainability 

The On-Time Performance Review 2022 - Cirium

Global Aircraft Emissions Monitor – Cirium

The most accurate flight emissions data is now available via Cirium Sky - Cirium

Travel Smart Campaign    

29 Mar 2023How Red Sea Global’s ambitious eco-tourism model could save the planet00:56:22

As one of the world’s most visionary resort developers, Red Sea Global wants to show that there is a better way to positively shape the places in which we live, work and travel.

In this episode, we talk to John Pagano, CEO at Red Sea Global. He shares how the company is creating brand new eco-tourism destinations that will allow you to travel not just net-zero, but true climate positive.

By re-thinking the entire model of what tourism can be — and should be — in the future, Red Sea Global is on a mission to prove that good business can go hand-in-hand with a greener planet. As Pagano says, we know what we’ve done wrong in the past, and we know the reasons for the current climate and ecological crisis. And it’s up to us to not repeat those mistakes.

We’ll also learn about setting the ecological ceiling to preserve the environment, how Red Sea Global is going 100% renewable by building the world's largest microgrid and battery storage systems; how to use data to increase the net conservation value; and why transparency is the key to setting and achieving goals.

If you LOVED this episode, you’ll also love the conversation we had with Universal Hydrogen’s John-Paul Clarke on how hydrogen can be a game-changer in clean transportation, especially aviation. Check it out here.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.


Links & More:

Responsible Development by Red Sea Global

About the Red Sea Project and Amaala

World’s largest battery storage facility

Red Sea Global - Sustainability Report 2022

Climate change: The IPCC just published its summary of 5 years of reports – here's what you need to know 

05 Apr 2023Embraer’s ambitious roadmap for decarbonising regional aviation01:01:46

Aircraft are the heart of aviation. Making efficient and greener aircraft is possibly the most effective way to cut the industry’s carbon emissions. 

In this episode, we talk to Embraer’s President & CEO Arjan Meijer and Vice President of Marketing and Strategy Rodrigo Silva e Souza. They share how the aircraft manufacturer is on a mission to decarbonise regional aviation through a mix of innovative technologies.

At the heart of Embraer’s sustainability roadmap is their regional air mobility (RAM) and urban air mobility (UAM) strategy. Underpinned by their Energia hybrid-electric and hydrogen-electric aircraft and Eve Air Mobility’s eVTOLs, Embraer is placing its bets on decarbonising shortest-haul travel first. 

We’ll also learn about why planes cannot entirely be replaced by trains; the sustainability outlook for business jets; how Embraer built the world’s quietest narrowbody aircraft; the ways in which in-cabin improvements can enhance sustainability; Embraer’s plan for carbon neutral operations by 2040 and net zero by 2050.

If you LOVED this episode you’ll also love the conversation we had with Airbus’ Amanda Simpson about how the airframer is at the forefront of investing in new technologies and innovations, chief among them being hydrogen. Check it out here.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.

Links & More:

Embraer - The shape of things to come, new sustainable aircraft concepts revealed 

Concepts - Embraer Commercial Aviation Sustainability 

Demonstrators and customer feedback at heart of Embraer’s Energia roadmap - Flight Global 

What Is New With Embraer's Energia Family Concept? - Simple Flying 

A look at Eve’s eVTOL aircraft as it targets type certification in late 2025 - Vertical 

Schiphol eliminating all overnight flights and private flights by the end of 2025 - NL Times 

Inside Embraer - How The E2 Became The Quietest Jet - Simple Flying 

Embraer commits to carbon neutral operations by 2040 - Aviation Benefits 

Embraer, Raízen partnership to stimulate production of sustainable aviation fuel - Biobased Diesel 

Embraer sets new target for 100% green electricity in Brazil - Airport Technology 

12 Apr 2023Why CarbonClick wants airlines to work on reduction strategies before offsetting00:39:07

Carbon offsetting is a frequently used solution for mitigating excessive emissions, especially in aviation. The solution however, is not without its fair share of controversies.

In this episode, we talk to CarbonClick’s Vice President of Enterprise Product & Strategic Partnerships, Seth Horowitz. He shares how the carbon offsets, when used carefully, can be an asset to aviation. 

As an industry leader in managing and implementing transparent offsetting programs, CarbonClick helps individuals and top global airlines reduce pollution while restoring nature. However, Horowitz emphasises that offsetting must be used as the last step mitigation strategy, only after every other reduction methodology has been exhausted. 

We’ll also learn about Horowitz’s thoughts on the recent controversy and criticisms of carbon offsetting; how CarbonClick verifies and selects projects; the offsetting technology platform that the company provides to airlines and eCommerce companies; individual responsibility towards the environment and why intentional flying is the way forward.

If you LOVED this episode you’ll also love the conversation we had with Tony Douglas, Group CEO of Etihad, who shares his thoughts on Etihad’s carbon offsetting programme and how the airline is paving the way for the entire industry to move a step closer to net-zero. Check it out here.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.

Full disclosure: CarbonClick is a co-sponsor of the Sustainability in the Air podcast Season 3 and has been the sole sponsor for Seasons 1 and 2.


Links & More:

Airport and Airline Carbon Offsetting Solution for Bookings - CarbonClick

The Carbon Con – How offsetting claims are vastly inflated - Source Material 

Carbon offsets are in the news again. What should you do? - SimpliFlying 

The Gold Standard  

Etihad Airways boosts carbon offset programme  

Tony Douglas, Etihad Airways CEO, in conversation with Shashank Nigam - SimpliFlying 


19 Apr 2023Virgin Atlantic’s 100% Sustainable Aviation Fuel gambit00:48:08

Later this year, Virgin Atlantic will conduct the world’s first net zero transatlantic flight powered by 100% sustainable aviation fuel (SAF). If all goes well, it could set the stage for much cleaner flying by the end of this decade.

In this episode, we talk to Holly-Boyd Boland, Virgin Atlantic’s VP Corporate Development and Sustainability. She shares how Virgin Atlantic is preparing to conduct the historic flight with its partners and the existing regulatory and technical challenges with procuring, producing and using SAF. 

We’ll also learn about the importance of studying the impact of contrails on the climate; the potential of carbon capture technology; Virgin Atlantic's corporate SAF programme; their in-flight sustainability initiatives and much more.

If you LOVED this episode you’ll also love the conversation we had with Sheila Remes, Boeing’s Vice President of Environmental Sustainability, who shared how the airframer is collaborating with industry stakeholders – such as Virgin Atlantic – to move aviation towards its 2050 net zero goal. Check it out here.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.


Links & More:

[2008] Boeing, Virgin Atlantic and GE Aviation to Fly First Commercial Jet on Biofuel - Boeing Newsroom 

World’s first net zero transatlantic flight to fly from London in 2023 - GOV.UK 

Virgin Atlantic purchases 10 million gallons of SAF from Gevo - Biofuels International Magazine 

Virgin Group plans to use low-carbon fuel made from plastic waste - The Independent 

Airlines and others collaborate to study contrails - Travel Weekly 

Protecting our planet - Virgin Atlantic 

Reducing, reusing and recycling - Virgin Atlantic 

Virgin Atlantic launches corporate SAF programme - Business Travel News Europe  

Boeing’s Sheila Remes in conversation with Shashank Nigam - SimpliFlying 


01 Jun 2023Why Delta Air Lines believes the next frontier of sustainability is collaboration00:47:05

In this episode, we talk to Amelia DeLuca, Chief Sustainability OfficerVice President, at Delta Air Lines. She shares how the next frontier of sustainability is collaboration – not only from collaboration with their SkyTeam airline partners, but also in how it shows up in other spheres whether they’re on the ground or in the air. 

We’ll also learn about Delta’s single-minded focus on tracking customer preferences and linking them to sustainability; the airline’s efforts to run on 10% SAF by 2030; the aggressive campaign to discard single-use plastics and reduce waste; a unique collaboration with MIT to explore the reduction of airplane contrails; and, of course, the first-of-its-kind Sustainable Skies Lab that seeks to create a space for various stakeholders and innovators to collaborate and realise the future of sustainability. 

If you LOVED this episode you’ll also love the conversation we had with Holly Boyd-Boland, Virgin Atlantic’s VP Corporate Development and Sustainability. She shares how the airline is preparing to conduct their historic 100% SAF flight and using SAF and other pathways to net zero by 2050. Check it out here.

Reach out to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.

Note: This episode is a part of our SkyTeam special series. In this series, we will highlight SkyTeam member airlines participating in The Sustainable Flight Challenge, and bringing sustainability into flight operations today. 

Links and more:

Delta Ups onboard sustainability with eco-friendly soft products - Simple Flying

Clean Skies for Tomorrow leaders: 10% Sustainable Aviation Fuel by 2030 - World Economic Forum 

Delta signs SAF agreement with Gevo - Biomass Magazine 

California Legislature passes bill to achieve 20% SAF use by 2030 - Biobased Diesel 

Fort Worth’s Aero Design Labs aims to help Delta Air Lines save fuel, reduce carbon emissions with 'Drag Reduction Kits' - Dallas Innovates  

Delta to work with MIT to study impact of airplane contrails on climate - Phys Org 

Delta Airlines and Joby outline a seamless, sustainable eVTOL passenger experience - APEX

Delta Air Lines pushes towards net zero emissions with Sustainable Skies Lab - Forbes

Virgin Atlantic’s 100% Sustainable Aviation Fuel gambit - SimpliFlying

08 Jun 2023Why SkyTeam believes the world needs “conscious travel”00:33:23

In this episode, we talk to SkyTeam Alliance’s CEO Patrick Roux, who outlines the alliance’s role in enabling airlines’ net zero journey. He also discusses The Sustainable Flight Challenge, SkyTeam’s groundbreaking initiative to promote sustainable innovations, and how sustainability can be an integral part of customer experience. 

We’ll also learn about the importance of collaboration among airlines to achieve sustainability, the evolving customer experience driven by environmental consciousness, the necessity to adapt despite varying regulatory pressures, and the value of sharing innovations and best practices.

If you LOVED this episode you’ll also love the conversation we had with Star Alliance CEO Jeffrey Goh, who shared how the alliance is supporting airlines in stepping up their sustainability game, including efforts such as inter-modal partnerships, a sustainability summit, investment in SAF and more. Check it out here.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.

Note: This episode is a part of our SkyTeam special series. In this series, we will highlight SkyTeam member airlines participating in The Sustainable Flight Challenge, and bringing sustainability into flight operations today. 

Links & More:

Sustainable Flight Challenge - SkyTeam

Impact of TSFC - SkyTeam 

SAUDIA participates in SkyTeam’s Sustainable Flight Challenge 2023 in joint effort to make aviation cleaner - Bloomberg 

Kenya Airways operates its most sustainable boeing 787 flight yet - Simple Flying 

DB becomes first intermodal partner of the Star Alliance - Railway News 

How Star Alliance is facilitating a net-zero future in aviation - SimpliFlying

15 Jun 2023How Air France plans to exceed the EU’s decarbonisation targets00:50:14

In this episode, we talk to Vincent Etchebehere, Director of Sustainability and New Mobilities at Air France who maps out the airline’s short- and long-term pathways to net zero emissions.

We’ll also learn about the importance and effectiveness of fleet renewal and how the airline is planning to adopt alternative fuels including hydrogen and reduce its carbon footprint. Etchebehere highlights Air France’s investments in SAF; explains why transparency and science-based communication are crucial; and urges intra-industry cooperation to aid the airline’s efforts to meet its decarbonisation targets.

If you LOVED this episode you’ll also love the conversation we had with United Airlines CEO Scott Kirby who firmly believes that sustainability is the defining issue for our generation to solve. He explains in detail how United is the carrier to look up to when it comes to sustainability strategy and investment; their investments in SAF; and why carbon sequestration is far better than carbon offsetting. Check it out here.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.

Note: This episode is a part of our SkyTeam special series. In this series, we will highlight SkyTeam member airlines participating in The Sustainable Flight Challenge, and bringing sustainability into flight operations today. 

Links & More:

France has banned air travel between cities that can be reached easily by train - Business Insider  

Fleet modernization, the first lever in the Group’s decarbonization - Air France

Air France and SNCF to operate an additional 7 “Train + Air” services - Air France 

Air France-KLM pushes its sustainability targets forward with major multi-year Sustainable Aviation Fuel (SAF) purchase agreements - Air France 

EU agrees to world’s largest green fuels mandate for aviation - Transport & Environment 

Air France CEO Anne Rigail sees trains playing a bigger role in her airline’s strategy - Airline Weekly 

Sustainable Flight Challenge - SkyTeam

How Scott Kirby is making United Airlines a global leader in sustainability - SimpliFlying 

22 Jun 2023KLM wants to prove that sustainability can be good for business00:50:09

In this episode, we talk to Zita Schellekens, SVP Strategy & Sustainability at KLM who explains how a sustainable future can be achieved without sacrificing growth.

We’ll hear about KLM’s commitment to sustainability through innovative technologies and collaborations. In addition, the adoption of sustainable aviation fuel, testing new aircraft designs, and integrating sustainability into business decisions are key strategies. We’ll also learn how KLM’s decision to abandon “economic tankering” for environmental reasons exemplifies a willingness to make tough choices for a greener future.

If you LOVED this episode you’ll also love the conversation we had with Holly Boyd-Boland, Virgin Atlantic’s VP Corporate Development and Sustainability. She shares how the airline is preparing to conduct a historic 100% SAF flight with its partners; the existing regulatory and technical challenges with procuring, producing and using SAF; and other pathways to net zero by 2050. Check it out here.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.

Note: This episode is a part of our SkyTeam special series. In this series, we will highlight SkyTeam member airlines participating in The Sustainable Flight Challenge, and bringing sustainability into flight operations today. 

Links & More:

KLM Group’s CO2 emission reduction targets for 2030 approved by SBTi - KLM

Tankering in aviation - Transport & Environment 

EU agrees to decarbonize air travel with the ‘world’s largest green fuels mandate for aviation’ - CNBC 

KLM starts collaboration with AeroDelft student team: building a hydrogen plane - KLM

KLM, SkyNRG and SHV Energy greenlight the world’s largest stand-alone sustainable aviation fuels project - Biofuels Digest

Neste to supply the Air France-KLM Group with more than 1 million tons of SAF - ARGS

Air France KLM Signs 210 Million Gallon SAF Offtake Agreement With DG Fuels - DGFuels 

Sustainable Flight Challenge - SkyTeam

Virgin Atlantic’s 100% Sustainable Aviation Fuel gambit - SimpliFlying 


29 Jun 2023Why Oscar Munoz advocates a people-centric approach to sustainability00:49:45

In this episode, we talk to Oscar Munoz, former CEO of United Airlines and recently retired Executive Chairman of the airline’s board. Munoz shares insights from his new book, “Turnaround Time”, a deeply personal account of his time as CEO during which he led United’s remarkable comeback.

On our podcast, he explains the pivotal role of empathy and trust in leadership, especially in navigating an organization through crises and fostering an innovative and inclusive culture for long-term success and sustainability.

We’ll also hear about the value of diversity and inclusion; innovation during crises like COVID-19; and the future of aviation with sustainability and eVTOLs (electric vertical takeoff and landing aircraft) playing significant roles.

If you LOVED this episode you’ll also love the conversation we had with Scott Kirby, the current CEO of United Airlines. Kirby explains in detail how United Airlines is the carrier to look up to when it comes to sustainability strategy and investments. Check it out here.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.


Links & More:

Turnaround Time by Oscar Munoz 

How United’s Oscar Munoz Bounced Back After a Heart Transplant - Fortune 

2017 United Express Passenger Removal - Wikipedia

How Former United Airlines CEO Oscar Munoz Turned the Struggling Airline Around - Inc.com 

United's Busting Out the Big Bucks On Flying Taxis - Gizmodo 

Archer, United Airlines to Launch First eVTOL Air Shuttle - Airways Magazine 

How Scott Kirby is making United Airlines a global leader in sustainability - SimpliFlying 


06 Jul 2023Joby wants to alleviate the pain and frustration of getting from home to your airline seat00:59:42

In this episode, we talk to Bonny Simi, Head of Air Operations and People at Joby Aviation. 

On our podcast, she explains why, thanks to over 10 years of designing, developing and testing, Joby is set to be a leader in the eVTOL (electric vertical takeoff and landing aircraft) space. Thanks to an initial investment by JetBlue Ventures, followed by further investment and an exclusive partnership with Delta Air Lines, Joby expects to enter commercial service in 2025.  

We’ll also hear about the company’s grand vision of saving a billion people an hour a day; the value of collaboration and partnerships while building a new aircraft; the benefit of attracting top talent from a variety of companies and building a people-first organisation; and why these so-called electric air taxis will usher in a radical new form of convenient and affordable last-mile transportation. 

If you LOVED this episode you’ll also love the conversation we had with Adam Goldstein, CEO and Founder at Archer Aviation. Goldstein explains in detail how eVTOLs will change the way we live, travel and spend time. Check it out here.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.


Links & More:

JetBlue invests in flying taxi startup - Travel Mole

Toyota-backed Joby eVTOL production to start in California, USA - Team-BHP 

Joby Aviation receives permit to fly first eVTOL built on production line - TechCrunch 

How Joby and Delta are making flying taxis a reality - CNBC

Joby and ANA to operate eVTOL flights at Expo 2025 Osaka - AeroTime

Dubai again plans for flying taxi takeoff, this time by 2026 - ET EnergyWorld

Joby Aviation Reveals Details of Its New ‘Aviation Academy’ - FLYING Magazine 

 Why eVTOLS will change the way we live, travel and spend time - SimpliFlying 


13 Jul 2023Why Widerøe Zero sees regional aviation as the pathway to airline sustainability00:47:34

In this episode, we talk to Andreas Aks, CEO of Widerøe Zero, a subsidiary of the Norwegian airline Widerøe. 

Widerøe Zero has been set up as a consultancy-cum-incubator that seeks to shed the baggage of legacy aviation and usher in a green future. The company aims to tackle the regulatory, commercial and financing challenges involved in purchasing and operating an entirely new class of aircraft.

In this episode, we’ll delve into sustainable aviation’s future, particularly focusing on electric and hydrogen-fueled aircraft. We’ll also learn about the need for long-term vision and industry-wide collaboration; exploring the potential of retrofitting existing fleets; and the vital role OEMs and customers play in this future-facing transformation of the aviation industry.

If you LOVED this episode, you’ll also love the conversation we had with Embraer’s President & CEO Arjan Meijer and Vice President of Marketing and Strategy Rodrigo Silva e Souza. They elaborate on Embraer’s ambitious roadmap for decarbonising regional aviation. Check it out here.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.


Links & More:

Nordic airline Wideroe launches unit for emissions-free flying - Reuters 

Alliance for Zero Emission Aviation - European Commission

Widerøe Zero to launch Air Mobility Lab - Widerøe Zero  

Wideroe outlines ambitions for zero-emissions flying - Flight Global

Rolls-Royce Joins Forces with Tecnam, Widerøe on Electric Model - FLYING Magazine 

Eve and Widerøe expand partnership with order of 50 eVTOL aircraft - Airport Technology

Widerøe First Airline to Join Embraer’s Energia Advisory Group - Embraer

Embraer, Widerøe and Rolls-Royce Partner To Pursue Zero Emission Flight - Aero Expo 

Embraer’s ambitious roadmap for decarbonising regional aviation - SimpliFlying 


20 Jul 2023easyJet believes hydrogen propulsion is the future of short-haul flying00:30:19

In this episode, we talk to Jane Ashton, Sustainability Director at easyJet, Europe’s second-largest budget carrier. 

Ashton enumerates the six levers of sustainability that easyJet is working on to get to net zero by 2050, and explains why the airline moved away from betting on electric to hydrogen propulsion. 

In this episode, we’ll also learn about the various partnerships easyJet is exploring to make hydrogen propulsion a reality; the current status of their partnership with Wright Electric; why the airline has completely disavowed carbon offsetting; and the need for closer industry collaboration as well as the regulatory infrastructure to enable new technologies to scale.

If you LOVED this episode, you’ll also love the conversation we had with Amanda Simpson, Vice President for Research & Technology (Americas) at Airbus. She elaborates why Airbus firmly believes that hydrogen has the potential to offer a true clean fuel solution to not just aviation but other industries as well. Check it out here.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.


Links & More:

Net Zero Pathway – easyJet 

easyJet publishes SBTi-aligned net-zero roadmap to 2050 - ATAG

easyJet upgrading A320 fleet with Airbus optimisation technology - Simple Flying 

easyJet switches ‘green’ aviation focus from electric planes to hydrogen fuel - The Independent 

Rolls-Royce and easyJet test aircraft engine running on hydrogen - The Guardian 

GKN Aerospace, easyJet partner to promote decarbonization, advance hydrogen technology - Avionics International 

easyJet urges governments to back Airbus bet on hydrogen - Bloomberg 

easyJet to ditch landmark carbon offsetting scheme - Financial Times 

Why Airbus is betting big on hydrogen combustion - SimpliFlying 


27 Jul 2023Why Universal Hydrogen is choosing a radical path to sustainability00:54:49

In this episode, we talk to Paul Eremenko, co-founder and CEO of Universal Hydrogen, a company that wants to make hydrogen-powered commercial flight a near-term reality. 

Universal Hydrogen’s first product is a conversion kit for existing ATR72 and De Havilland Canada Dash-8 aircraft to fly on hydrogen. It includes a fuel cell electric powertrain and lightweight, modular hydrogen capsules transported directly to the aircraft.

In this episode, we’ll learn about the potential of modularity in aerospace manufacturing and the urgent necessity for innovative solutions in this space. Emphasising the value of radical changes over incremental improvements, Eremenko argues for exploring alternatives to conventional jet fuel. He makes a compelling case for hydrogen as a potential fuel source, capable of significantly reducing the aviation industry's carbon footprint and helping meet global sustainability goals. 

If you LOVED this episode, you’ll also love the conversation we had with Universal Hydrogen co-founder John-Paul Clarke. He explains how hydrogen – specifically green hydrogen – can help airlines achieve their net zero goals. Check it out here.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.


Links & More:

Universal Hydrogen takes to the air with the largest hydrogen fuel cell ever to fly - TechCrunch 

Universal Hydrogen Dash 8-300 makes second flight - The Air Current

Universal Hydrogen moves its flight test campaign to Mojave - Inceptive Mind 

Universal Hydrogen to offer green solutions for Japanese Airlines - Airport Technology

Universal Hydrogen advances ATR 72 hydrogen conversion - Aviation Week Network 

Meet Lightning McClean, the largest hydrogen-powered plane so far - Move Electric

Air New Zealand announces Heart Aerospace, Universal Hydrogen and Embraer as further Mission Next Gen Aircraft partners - Future Travel Experience

Universal Hydrogen lands $20.5m investment, Airbus and JetBlue arms contribute - Flight Global

American Airlines Invests in Universal Hydrogen Co. - Avionics International  

Universal Hydrogen’s vision to get aviation to net zero - SimpliFlying 

03 Aug 2023Swissport believes greening the skies starts on the ground00:45:53

In this episode, we talk to Nadia Kaddouri, former Chief Strategy and Sustainability Officer for Swissport International, the leading provider of airport ground services and air cargo handling based on revenue and number of airports served. 

In this episode, Kaddouri stresses that the hope for a net-zero future lies in people’s excitement and willingness to adopt sustainability measures. While laying out Swissport’s vision and plans for a net-zero future, she highlights the wider scope of sustainability beyond decarbonisation and acknowledges the impactful role of COVID-19 in changing industry work practices.

We also learn about Kaddouri’s fascinating shift from heading finance to leading sustainability. She emphasises the importance of passion and continuous learning in navigating new fields and shares her approach to learning about sustainability, which includes drawing inspiration from diverse sources such as other companies, suppliers, and podcasts. 

If you LOVED this episode, you’ll also love the conversation we had with Dubai International Airport’s CEO Paul Griffiths. He talks at length about the sustainability initiatives at one of the largest airports in the world. Check it out here.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.


Links & More:

Swissport International AG - Sustainability 

Swissport announces new sustainability targets - Passenger Terminal Today

Swissport to reduce its CO2 emissions by at least 42 percent by 2032 - BTN 

Swissport embraces growth and green logistics - Air Cargo News 

Amsterdam Schiphol ground handling vehicles to run on Neste renewable diesel - AviationSource News 

➡️ How do you decarbonise a major airport? - SimpliFlying 


10 Aug 2023The airline aiming for net zero 22 years before the industry target00:42:52

The airline aiming for net zero 22 years before the industry target

In this episode, we talk to Maarten Koopmans, Managing Director of KLM Cityhopper about KLM’s bold gambit in utilising regional aviation as a testbed for its overall sustainability strategy. 

KLM Cityhopper, the regional subsidiary of the Dutch airline KLM, has an ambitious and focused vision for reaching net zero this decade itself. While discussing the sustainability challenges in the aviation industry, Koopmans also acknowledges the significant role of climate activists and changing consumer behaviours. 

Koopmans emphasises the importance of people, particularly the young generation, in driving change and encourages them to join companies like KLM. Most importantly, Koopmans stresses the necessity of narrowing one’s focus in order to achieve tangible results. So how exactly does KLM Cityhopper intend to get to net zero by 2028? Listen to our episode and find out.

If you LOVED this episode, you’ll also love the conversation we had with SkyTeam Alliance’s CEO Patrick Roux who outlines the alliance’s role in enabling airlines’ net zero journey. Check it out here.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.


Links & More:

KLM Group’s CO2 emission reduction targets for 2030 approved by SBTi - KLM 

KLM completes inaugural Sustainable Flight Challenge using GE Jet Engines - The GE Aerospace Blog

Sustainable Flight Challenge: KLM and KLM Cityhopper to LA and Trondheim - Bluebiz 

KLM doubles sustainable fuel surcharge to cover cost of more SAF - Runway Girl Network 

KLM starts collaboration with AeroDelft student team: building a hydrogen plane - KLM 

KLM to officially launch rail-air service between Brussels and Amsterdam – Business Traveller 

Why SkyTeam believes the world needs “conscious travel” - SimpliFlying 


17 Aug 2023How JetBlue plans to get to net zero by 2040 without stifling growth00:53:36

In this episode, we talk to Sara Bogdan, Head of Sustainability and ESG at JetBlue Airways, one of the two airlines in the world planning to achieve net zero emissions by 2040 – a full decade ahead of the industry's target.

Bogdan talks about sustainability in the aviation industry, with a particular focus on JetBlue's pioneering efforts. Beginning with a broad overview of global environmental challenges, she highlights various initiatives to enhance fuel efficiency, reduce greenhouse gas emissions, and employ sustainable aviation fuels (SAFs). 

We also learn about the airline's collaborative approach with suppliers, government agencies, and stakeholders. The complexity of balancing business growth with environmental impact is explored, with an emphasis on the necessity for transparency, innovation, and accountability. 

If you LOVED this episode, you’ll also love the conversation we had with JetBlue Ventures President Amy Burr who shared how JetBlue’s technology investments are aiding the aviation sector to make progressive moves towards sustainability. Check it out here.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.

Links & More:

JetBlue Announces Science-based Emissions Reduction Target and Strategy to Achieve Net Zero by 2040 - JetBlue

United, JetBlue further investments in sustainability - PhocusWire 

JetBlue, Shell ink sustainable fuel deal trackable using blockchain - Ledger Insights

JetBlue to allow travellers to contribute towards SAF - Business Travel News

JetBlue Partners With CHOOSE To Give Customers Tools To Scale Sustainable Flying - TravelPulse

JetBlue signs SAF supply agreement with AIR COMPANY - Airport Technology 

Amy Burr on how JetBlue Ventures is investing in the future of sustainable aviation - SimpliFlying  

How Sara Bogdan is taking JetBlue towards net zero via SAF and more - SimpliFlying 

24 Aug 2023SATAVIA wants to solve a majorly ignored aspect of aviation’s climate impact00:57:04

SATAVIA wants to solve a majorly ignored aspect of aviation’s climate impact

In this episode, we talk to Adam Durant, Founder & CEO of SATAVIA, about the groundbreaking work being done in the field of contrail reduction and its implications on the environment.

Contrails are the long, thin clouds that often form behind an airplane in cold and humid conditions when water vapor freezes around small dust and soot particles from the engine. Although they look harmless, contrails are made up of small ice crystals that trap heat in the earth’s atmosphere and contribute to global warming – one study suggests contrails are responsible for as much as 57% of aviation’s warming impact. 

Durant talks about how addressing contrail formation is an important sustainability problem that can be tackled effectively with current technology and resources. He says that only “persistent” contrails, formed by about 5% of flights, are at fault. Moreover, he emphasises that not all contrails are harmful; some even have a cooling effect. He suggests a strategic approach, avoiding contrails that cause warming while possibly utilising those that have a cooling effect. 

Overall, while delving into the fascinating science of contrails and the technical details of how SATAVIA’s software helps airlines such as Etihad and KLM avoid contrail formation, Durant stresses the importance of looking beyond carbon emissions to fully grasp and manage the aviation sector's impact on climate change.

If you LOVED this episode, you’ll also love the conversation we had with ex-Etihad CEO Tony Dougas who shared how Etihad is paving the way for the entire industry to move a step closer to net-zero. Check it out here.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.


Links & More:

Technology - SATAVIA    

Contrails are a problem for aviation -- but there could be an easy solution - CNN 

The contribution of global aviation to anthropogenic climate forcing for 2000 to 2018 - ScienceDirect 

Etihad Airways signs multi-year commercial production contract with Satavia - Times Aerospace

Contrails prevention specialist SATAVIA seeks carbon-credit accreditation - Aviation Week Network

Institute for Atmospheric Physics - Contrail Cirrus Prediction Model (CoCiP)

Gold Standard approves aircraft contrails methodology concept - Gold Standard 

Project Contrails – Google Research 

How Etihad is leading the industry towards a sustainable future - SimpliFlying 


31 Aug 2023Why transparency trumps accuracy while calculating carbon emissions00:53:44

In this episode, we talk to Tom Kershaw, Chief Product & Technology Officer at Travelport, about how technology coupled with a transparent, collaborative approach can lead to a sustainable future. 

Travelport is a travel technology company with transparency at its core. It provides “a single, independent marketplace for buyers and sellers of travel” that helps travellers make informed travel decisions while enabling travel businesses such as airlines and hotels to personalise their content and offers. 

Kershaw asserts that sustainability is a technical problem that requires integration and collaboration across various departments, including revenue, marketing, and technology. He emphasises that sustainability should be a part of the culture in every organisation, not a segregated department.

You’ll also learn about the importance of having standard and transparent calculations for carbon emissions, rather than aiming for absolute accuracy. Kershaw stresses the need for consumers to understand the relative impact of their choices and make informed decisions. Most importantly, the episode explains why the intersection of government policy, corporate responsibility, and technological innovation is crucial for the path ahead.

If you LOVED this episode, you’ll also love the conversation we had with Red Sea Global’s CEO John Pagano who shares how the developer is rethinking eco-tourism that will allow you to travel not just net-zero, but true climate positive. Check it out here.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.


Links & More:

About Travelport

Travelport+ is the platform for modern agency retailing - Travelport

Travelport Joins Travalyst Coalition and Escalates Focus on Sustainability in Travel Retailing - Travelport

IATA CO2 Connect Calculator 

European Green Deal: new law agreed to cut aviation emissions by promoting sustainable aviation fuels - European Commission

US-based United Airlines expects Inflation Reduction Act to spur more SAF output - S&P

➡️ How Red Sea Global’s ambitious eco-tourism model could save the planet - SimpliFlying 

07 Sep 2023How we created the most successful podcast on sustainable aviation: Behind the scenes00:49:11

In the special 50th episode, SimpliFlying CEO and host of the podcast, Shashank Nigam, reflects on the podcast's evolution from its inception on Earth Day 2022. He is joined by the SimpliFlying team members as they record the episode on a boat in London during their annual retreat. 

Shashank begins by highlighting the critical contributions of each member of the SimpliFlying team in the areas of research, writing, production management, design, marketing and distribution. Tracing the podcast's journey, Shashank notes the transition from his initial short YouTube video content to in-depth podcasts, driven by his – and the company’s – increasing interest and curiosity in sustainable aviation. 

Apart from discussing unique features like innovative visual branding and insightful articles that replace traditional transcripts, the team also recalls some of their favourite and most insightful episodes. Red Sea Global’s episode on its regenerative tourism site receives a special mention as it aims to be the largest tourism destination in the world that is powered 100% by renewable energy 24 hours a day. Other noteworthy episodes include interviews with AIR COMPANY, which transforms carbon dioxide into sustainable aviation fuel, and Archer, an electric air taxi firm. The episode on SATAVIA’s contrail reduction technology is mentioned, with Shashank noting its relevance from an earlier conversation with Etihad Airways.

Overall, the team remains optimistic about sustainable aviation’s future, foreseeing innovations in hydrogen fuel and other green technologies. Concluding with light-hearted bloopers and future aspirations, the episode emphasises the podcast’s commitment to advancing discussions on sustainable aviation.

A special shout-out to our sponsors, both past and present, who have championed our podcast since day 1 – CarbonClick, Cirium, and our current sponsor, Travelport

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.

Links & More:

How Red Sea Global’s ambitious eco-tourism model could save the planet

The company transforming CO2 into clean alcohols and fuel

Why eVTOLS will change the way we live, travel and spend time 

Deep Work: Rules for Focused Success in a Distracted World - Amazon

The Climate Book by Greta Thunberg - Penguin Random House 

14 Sep 2023How Direct Air Capture technology could ensure long-term SAF supply00:41:02

In this episode, we talk to Amy Ruddock, VP Europe and Middle East at Carbon Engineering

Based in British Columbia, Canada, Carbon Engineering aims to combat climate change by globally implementing Direct Air Capture (DAC) technology at a megaton-scale. Unlike traditional methods, DAC directly extracts CO2, the key greenhouse gas behind climate change, from the atmosphere, addressing both current unavoidable emissions and past CO2 emissions still present in the atmosphere.

The discussion centers on carbon emissions, capture, and aviation’s role in climate change. Ruddock calls for carbon balance, and discusses the Carbon Engineering and Occidental Petroleum partnership, emphasising strategic alliances and Occidental’s commitment to carbon management. We also learn about carbon capture credits, synthetic aviation fuels, cost reduction, direct air capture hubs, Ruddock’s career and passion for decarbonising aviation, Heathrow expansion, Virgin Atlantic's 100% SAF flight, and Carbon Engineering's global expansion plans.

If you LOVED this episode, you’ll also love the conversation we had with Gregory Constantine, Co-Founder and CEO of Air Company whose proprietary AIRMADE™ technology that replicates photosynthesis, is converting carbon dioxide into pure alcohols. Initially introducing a carbon-negative vodka, Air Vodka, the company also produces sanitiser and perfume. Crucially, they’ve developed a one-step, 100% drop-in sustainable aviation fuel directly from CO2. Check it out here.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.


Links & More:

Direct Air Capture Technology - Carbon Engineering 

1PointFive announces agreement with Airbus for the purchase of 400,000 tonnes of carbon removal credits - Decarbonisation Technology

How All Sustainable Aviation Fuel (SAF) Feedstocks and Production Technologies Can Play a Role in Decarbonizing Aviation - Aviation Pros

Occidental, 1PointFive to Begin Construction of World's Largest Direct Air Capture Plant in the Texas Permian Basin - Oxy

Visualizing the scale of the carbon removal problem - The Verge 

Virgin Atlantic’s 100% Sustainable Aviation Fuel gambit - SimpliFlying 

➡️ The company transforming CO2 into clean alcohols and fuel - SimpliFlying 

21 Sep 2023How Eve Air Mobility’s eVTOLs are re-imagining the passenger experience of the future00:50:29

In this episode, we talk to André Stein, Chief Strategy Officer at Eve Air Mobility, a subsidiary of the Brazilian aircraft manufacturer Embraer. 

Stein talks about the transformative potential of electric vertical takeoff and landing (eVTOL) aircraft in urban mobility. He explains how Eve is emphasising the passenger experience, striving to cater to a wide demographic, including the elderly, visually impaired, wheelchair users, and addressing concerns like motion sickness. 

We’ll also learn about how Eve leverages the capabilities of its parent company, Embraer, benefitting from its established aviation experience and infrastructure. Furthermore, Stein stresses Eve’s dedication to sustainability – extending from aircraft design to operations, engaging with energy providers for green solutions and collaborating with global entities to achieve broader sustainability targets.

If you LOVED this episode, you’ll also love the conversations we had with two other stalwarts in the eVTOL space – Adam Goldstein, CEO and Founder at Archer Aviation and Bonny Simi, Head of Air Operations and People and Joby Aviation. Learn more about their visions for the future of urban air mobility here and here.

Learn more about the innovators who are navigating the industry’s challenges to make sustainable aviation a reality, in our new book ‘Sustainability in the Air”. Click here to learn more.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.

Links & More:
eVTOL - Eve
Embraer-X
United Airlines invests $15M in Eve, signs purchase sgreement for pp to 400 eVTOLs - Avionics International 
Eve is collaborating with MIT to make data-driven decisions to build the urban air mobility market - Eve Air Mobility
BLADE and Eve announce strategic partnership to expand Urban Air Mobility ecosystem in India - Eve Air Mobility
Why eVTOLS will change the way we live, travel and spend time - SimpliFlying
Joby wants to alleviate the pain and frustration of getting from home to your airline seat - SimpliFlying 

28 Sep 2023The non-profit working behind the scenes to get aviation to net zero by 205000:53:51

In this episode, we talk to Haldane Dodd, Executive Director at Air Transport Action Group (ATAG), about how the non-profit is assisting the aviation industry in its net-zero by 2050 journey. 

Since 1990, the Geneva-based ATAG has brought the industry together to address the most pressing issues of the day. Their membership currently comprises over 40 organisations, including airframe and engine manufacturers, airlines, airports, and sustainable fuel companies. They offer platforms for collaboration, provide valuable data, and develop educational resources, promoting the industry’s sustainability efforts.  

The conversation centres around ATAG’s role, CORSIA and its critics, achieving net-zero by 2050, the commercial viability of Sustainable Aviation Fuel (SAF), the role of hydrogen, and confronting greenwashing. Dodd underscores the industry’s shift in focus from infrastructure to climate change, drawing parallels between collective safety initiatives and sustainability. 

We also learn about Waypoint 2050, a comprehensive guide detailing three pathways for the industry’s carbon-neutral future. Dodd emphasises SAF as an immediate solution and the need for large-scale investment, while also acknowledging the potential of emerging technologies like hydrogen and electric planes. 

If you LOVED this episode, you’ll also love the conversation we had with ACI World’s Director General Luis Felipe de Oliveira who shares how the organisation is supporting airports in their net-zero journey. Check it out here.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.


Links & More:

Waypoint 2050 - ATAG 

IATA - Incentives Needed to Increase SAF Production 

Out Front on Airline Safety: Two Decades of Continuous Evolution - FAA 

Future of Aviation - ICAO 

CORSIA Fact sheet - IATA

Corsia: worst option for the climate - Transport and Environment 

The airport of the future will be carbon positive, not just carbon neutral - SimpliFlying 

05 Oct 2023How daa is establishing a blueprint for sustainable airport operations00:51:21

In this episode we talk to Andrea Carroll, Group Head of Sustainability at daa, about how the global airport group is taking a holistic approach to sustainability and fostering a climate positive culture that promotes sustainability as a shared responsibility.

daa group are the commercial semi-state operators of Dublin and Cork airports; airport retail operators (ARI) and management consulting (daai). As daa has grown to have a presence in about 15 countries, it has shed its previous name: “Dublin Airport Authority”. Its current operations extend beyond Ireland’s two largest airports – Dublin and Cork – to the Middle East, Canada, APAC, and Europe. Their business model is diverse, and they even have investments in airports in Cyprus and Düsseldorf.

We will learn about the daa's global footprint and its commitment to sustainability, including decarbonisation efforts like integrating solar farms, circularity initiatives to reduce waste, and measures to enhance local environments. The conversation underscores the significance of multi-stakeholder collaboration, with daa actively coordinating with airlines, local communities, and even policymakers.

If you LOVED this episode, you’ll also love the conversation we had with Paul Griffiths, CEO at Dubai International Airport about the sustainability initiatives at one of the largest airports in the world. Check it out here.

Learn more about the innovators who are navigating the industry’s challenges to make sustainable aviation a reality, in our new book ‘Sustainability in the Air’. Click here to learn more.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.

Links & More:

Creating a climate positive culture for the daa – International Airport Review 

HVO propelling sustainability at Dublin Airport – Certa 

Sustainability Reports – daa 

ESG – daa International 

Dublin Airport Environmental Working Group – Dublin Airport

➡️ How do you decarbonise a major airport? – SimpliFlying 

12 Oct 2023How the Lilium Jet will open up new frontiers for eVTOLs00:41:10

In this episode we talk to Daniel Wiegand, Co-founder & Chief Engineer for Innovation and Future Programmes at Lilium. He shares Lilium’s vision to revolutionise regional air mobility by building the world’s first electric vertical take-off and landing (eVTOL) jet.

While most eVTOLs are seen as advanced versions of helicopters, Lilium Jet’s unique design allows for passengers to be transported using vertical takeoff and landing, and then proceed with what they’re terming “jet propulsion” for travel. The company expects its first eVTOL jet to enter commercial service by the end of 2025.

Speaking about the future, Wiegand mentions that commercial operations are likely to start post certification in 2025, targeting the premium segment. He concludes by discussing their collaboration strategy, combining aerospace precision with automotive scalability, and how their carefully nurtured partnerships support a joint vision of sustainable aviation.

Please note: This interview was recorded in April 2023. By the time of the episode release,  Lilium had completed its fourth and final Design Organization Approval by EASA, and had raised additional funding bringing the total raised this year to $292 million. 

If you LOVED this episode, you’ll also love the conversations we had with Adam Goldstein, CEO and Founder at Archer Aviation; Bonny Simi, Joby Aviation’s Head of Air Operations and People; and André Stein, Chief Strategy Officer at Eve Air Mobility.

Learn more about the innovators who are navigating the industry’s challenges to make sustainable aviation a reality, in our new book ‘Sustainability in the Air’. Click here to learn more.

For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.

Links & More:

The extraordinary batteries Lilium will use for its odd eVTOL approach - New Atlas
Honeywell and DENSO are developing a motor for Lilium’s eVTOL aircraft - Avionics International
Lilium partners with Ferrovial to build network of 10+ vertiports in Florida - Vertical Mag
Why eVTOLS will change the way we live, travel and spend time - SimpliFlying
Joby wants to alleviate the pain and frustration of getting from home to your airline seat - SimpliFlying 
Lilium completes final audit in major step towards achieving EASA Design Organization Approval - Lilium 

19 Oct 2023What does it take to produce an aircraft-worthy battery?00:45:30

In this episode we talk to Nathan Millecam, President & CEO of Electric Power Systems (EP Systems) about designing the perfect battery to power electric aircraft.

Millecam’s company is a pioneer in aircraft battery technology. His journey began with a role at Honeywell Aerospace, where he worked on the Boeing 787 Dreamliner’s power system. This introduced him to the potential of lithium-ion batteries in aviation. He then started EP Systems in 2016 to explore the potential application of lithium-ion batteries in aircraft, given their improving power density and followed this up with learnings from collaborating with NASA on their X-57 experimental electric aircraft project. 

We’ll also learn about the company’s partnerships with Ampaire and REGENT and the intricacies and practicalities of designing and customising batteries for hybrid-electric and all-electric planes. Millecam points out the significant savings associated with running battery-powered aircraft as compared to sticking with traditional jet combustion engines.

While discussing JetBlue Ventures’ investment in the company, he also stresses the importance of economic viability in sustainable aviation. He elaborates on battery technology advancements, emphasising quick recharging, and real-world applications and reveals when the public can expect to actually experience all-electric planes.

Learn more about the innovators who are navigating the industry’s challenges to make sustainable aviation a reality, in our new book ‘Sustainability in the Air’. Click here to learn more.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.

Links & More:

EPiC propulsion battery - EP Systems 

Ampaire chooses EP Systems to supply battery packs for hybrid-electric Eco Caravan - Avionics International 

Performance analysis of regional electric aircraft - ICCT

Electric airplane industry & trends - Toptal 

EP Systems enters strategic partnership with REGENT - Avionics International 

Electric Power Systems awarded the Energy Storage System for the NASA X-57 Maxwell all-electric aircraft - EP Systems 

South America’s ‘lithium fields’ reveal the dark side of our electric future - Euronews 

Amy Burr on how JetBlue Ventures is investing in the future of sustainable aviation - SimpliFlying 

26 Oct 2023What do climate activists really want?00:55:48

In this episode we talk to Hiske Arts, Campaigner at Fossil Free NL (Fossielvrij NL), a Dutch citizens’ movement seeking to “break the power of the fossil fuel industry”. 

Arts voices her concerns about the aviation industry’s contributions to the climate crisis and emphasises her scepticism about the aviation industry’s genuine commitment to addressing climate concerns. The conversation delves into the concept of a “carbon budget” and the aviation industry’s emissions, with Hiske arguing that the sector faces unique challenges to become sustainable. 

We also learn about the growth trajectory of the aviation sector, with much of the debate centring on the responsibility of developed nations versus developing nations in tackling emissions. Arts maintains that developed nations, due to their historical contributions to emissions, should take the lead in addressing climate change. This view is reflected in her stance on the aviation industry’s growth aspirations; Arts believes that true sustainability cannot coexist with the current emphasis on continual growth. 

Please note: When talking about SBTi, Hiske mistakenly mentions that they delay emissions reductions until after 2030. What she meant to say was that SBTi targets are delaying steep emission reductions until after 2030.

If you LOVED this episode, you’ll also love the conversation we had with the International Council on Clean Transportation’s (ICCT) Program Director, Dan Rutherford, who dives deep into the future of sustainable aviation and the trajectory airlines and governments need to follow to get to net-zero emissions.. Check it out here.

Learn more about the innovators who are navigating the industry’s challenges to make sustainable aviation a reality, in our new book ‘Sustainability in the Air’. Click here to learn more.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.

Links & More:

The Fossil Free Movement - Fossielvrij NL

FossielVrij NL v. KLM - Climate Change Litigation

Dutch government presses ahead with Schiphol flight cap as airlines protest - Reuters    

Would a frequent flying tax be progressive? - International Council on Clean Transportation 

Dan Rutherford on net-zero roadmaps and transitioning to sustainable technologies - SimpliFlying

02 Nov 2023Sustainability in the Air: Pioneering the Green Future of Aviation00:53:53

In this episode, we speak with SimpliFlying’s CEO Shashank Nigam, and Head of Sustainability Dirk Singer, about the launch of their brand new book, ‘Sustainability in the Air.’

The aviation industry finds itself at a crossroads, grappling with the environmental consequences of its operations. While today aviation’s global share of greenhouse gases is around 3%, that could grow to 22% by 2050 if left unchecked. But the authors of Sustainability in the Air argue that this is not a doomsday scenario; it’s a call to action. 

In their book, Dirk and Shashank delve into the industry’s challenges while painting a picture of hope through a comprehensive roadmap for sustainable aviation. The book however, isn't just a roadmap; it tells the stories of people in the aviation industry and within climate tech, striving for aviation’s net zero future.

Featuring industry leaders like Etihad, SkyTeam, JetBlue, and innovators like AIR COMPANY, Heart Aerospace, ZeroAvia, Archer, ‘Sustainability in the Air’ shines a light on the positive changes that aviation can make while offering concrete solutions.

You can learn more about the book here, or order it on Amazon.

Links & More:

Sustainability in the Air: Innovators Transforming Aviation for a Greener Future - SimpliFlying 

How JetBlue plans to get to net zero by 2040 without stifling growth - SimpliFlying

How AIR COMPANY is transforming CO2 into clean alcohols and fuel - SimpliFlying  

Why Heart Aerospace’s electric aircraft is a gamechanger - SimpliFlying 

Why ZeroAvia believes that hydrogen propulsion is the future - SimpliFlying

Why eVTOLS will change the way we live, travel and spend time - SimpliFlying  

09 Nov 2023British Airways’ route to sustainability with BA Better World00:56:15

In this episode, we talk to Carrie Harris, Director of Sustainability at British Airways, who discusses the airline’s commitment to net zero, and the overarching BA Better World sustainability strategy.

We will learn about BA’s short-, medium- and long-term initiatives to support greener flying, its CO2llaborate platform that embeds sustainability into the customer journey, the comprehensive employee engagement program, and the airline’s strong focus on operational efficiencies. Harris also highlights BA’s investments in sustainable aviation fuel (SAF), the airline’s efforts to reduce waste and single-use plastics, and its research project on contrails and non-CO2 emissions.

If you LOVED this episode you’ll also love the conversation we had with Air France’s Director of Sustainability and New Mobilities, Vincent Etchebehere, who shares the airline’s short- and long-term pathways to net zero emissions, intermodal partnerships and the importance of SAF. Check it out here.

Learn more about the innovators who are navigating the industry’s challenges to make sustainable aviation a reality, in our new book ‘Sustainability in the Air’. Click here to learn more.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.

Links & More:

BA Better World - British Airways 

Sustainability at British Airways 2023 - British Airways 

BA, Lanzajet & Nova Pangaea move closer towards large-scale production of SAF in the UK - British Airways 

British Airways Co2llaborate platform - Chooose 

How Air France plans to exceed the EU’s decarbonisation targets - SimpliFlying 

16 Nov 2023How World Energy is shaping the future of sustainable aviation fuel00:59:51

In this episode we talk to Gene Gebolys, President and CEO at World Energy, the world’s first producer of sustainable aviation fuel (SAF) that has been in the business of renewable fuels for over 25 years. They produce sustainable aviation fuel, renewable diesel, and renewable naphtha, with plans to create renewable propane and green hydrogen.

Gebolys delves into the intricacies and future of SAF in this conversation. Emphasising World Energy’s transition from a biofuels company to a leader in SAF, he highlights the critical role of hydrogen in SAF production and the need for innovation in hydrogen sourcing. Gebolys sheds light on their groundbreaking green hydrogen project in Newfoundland, Canada, and the importance of balancing first and second-generation biofuels.

We’ll also learn about California’s regulatory framework, which has been pivotal in the development of SAF, as well as the ‘book and claim’ methodology, a crucial strategy for extending SAF’s impact globally. The conversation underscores the importance of corporate partnerships, with companies like Microsoft and DHL playing key roles in SAF adoption. Gebolys envisions a future where SAF usage is standard, driven by customer demand and a collaborative effort from all industry stakeholders. 

If you LOVED this episode, you’ll also love the conversation we had with Gregory Constantine, Co-Founder and CEO of Air Company which is transforming CO2 into clean alcohols and fuel. Check it out here.

Learn more about the innovators who are navigating the industry’s challenges to make sustainable aviation a reality, in our new book ‘Sustainability in the Air’. Click here to learn more.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.


Links & More:

World Energy 

Clean Energy 101: Book and Claim - RMI

Microsoft and World Energy sign landmark 10-year book-and claim SAF deal – GreenAir News 

Etihad Airways and World Energy partner to demonstrate the future of net-zero aviation, making book & claim real - Etihad 

World Energy GH2 secures land approval for its green hydrogen project - Offshore Energy 

23 Nov 2023How to rethink tourism and aviation for a greener future00:44:02

In this episode we talk to Dr Susanne Becken, Professor of Sustainable Tourism at Griffith University, Australia, who discusses various aspects of sustainable travel and its relationship with climate change.

With her roots in Germany, current engagement at Griffith University in Australia, and residing in New Zealand, Becken is a unique voice in sustainable tourism. Her global lifestyle has fostered a deep connection with airlines, fuelling her dedication to enhancing their sustainability. 

Becken has widely published on the topics of sustainable tourism, energy use and greenhouse gas emissions, tourist behavior, environmental policy, and risk management. She was a contributing author to the Fourth and the Fifth IPCC Assessment Reports. In the episode, she is particularly vocal about the tangible impacts of climate change, referencing the year’s unprecedented climate anomalies and highlighting the susceptibility of tourism destinations to environmental catastrophes.

The conversation also revolves around the challenges with Sustainable Aviation Fuel (SAF) and the complexities of transitioning to sustainable aviation. Becken also calls for the implementation of ecological ceilings in tourism to manage carrying capacity and reduce environmental impacts, advocating for a shift from volume-based to value-based tourism models.

If you LOVED this episode, you’ll also love the conversation we had with Red Sea Global’s CEO John Pagano who shared how the giga-project developer is rethinking eco-tourism, enabling true climate-positive travel. Check it out here.

Learn more about the innovators who are navigating the industry’s challenges to make sustainable aviation a reality, in our new book ‘Sustainability in the Air’. Click here to learn more.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.


Links & More:

Ecological ceiling - The Doughnut Economy

There’s a buzz about ‘sustainable’ fuels – but they cannot solve aviation’s colossal climate woes - The Conversation 

Vanuatu Sustainable Tourism Strategy - Pacific Farmers 

Can there be ultra long-haul flights in a net zero world? - CNA 

How Red Sea Global’s ambitious eco-tourism model could save the planet - SimpliFlying 

Implications of preferential access to land and clean energy for Sustainable Aviation Fuels - Becken et al. (2023)

Knowledge alone won’t “fix it”: building regenerative literacy - Becken and Coghlan (2022)

30 Nov 2023How Virent is using “nature’s carbon capturers” to make sustainable fuels00:38:41

In this episode, we talk to Dave Kettner, President and General Counsel at Virent about the company’s innovative contributions to renewable energy and its pivotal role in shaping a sustainable future in aviation.

Kettner emphasises their breakthroughs in renewable fuels, particularly their BioForming process that converts plant carbohydrates into bioformate, a green alternative to petroleum products. This process is used to create sustainable gasoline, aviation fuel, and materials for various industries, marking a shift to plant-based resources.

Kettner also highlights Virent’s rapid conversion of plant sugars into fuels and chemicals, a faster alternative to natural oil formation. Despite varying global views on biofuels, he remains positive, citing agricultural advancements. A notable project is their collaboration with Virgin Atlantic on a 100% Sustainable Aviation Fuel flight, showcasing their technology's practical use. Virent plans to globally license its technology, aiming to decrease aviation emissions and foster a more sustainable industry, aligning with their commitment to renewable energy development.

If you LOVED this episode, you’ll also love the conversation we had with Amy Ruddock, VP Europe and Middle East at Carbon Engineering, who explains how Direct Air Capture (DAC) technology – that removes carbon dioxide directly out of the atmosphere – can help decarbonise aviation. Check it out here.

Learn more about the innovators who are navigating the industry’s challenges to make sustainable aviation a reality, in our new book ‘Sustainability in the Air’. Click here to learn more.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.


Links & More:

Virent and Johnson Matthey's SAF breakthrough powers Virgin Atlantic's historic 100% sustainable transatlantic flight - Hydrocarbon Processing

Lighting the SAFterburners: Virent, Air bp, Virgin, Gevo, Axens, ECARU, others accelerating on SAF - Biofuels Digest 

Rolls-Royce and Gulfstream test 100% SAF blend in G650 twin-jet; HEFA and SAK - Green Car Congress 

Madison company's plant-based biofuel powers engine of Boeing 777 jet - Madison 

Virent developing environmentally friendly bottles for Coke 

How Direct Air Capture technology could ensure long-term SAF supply - SimpliFlying

07 Dec 2023How Southwest Airlines maintains affordability while pursuing sustainability00:49:23

In this episode we talk to Helen Giles, Managing Director of Environmental Sustainability at Southwest Airlines, who shares how the low-cost carrier is integrating sustainability into its operations. 

Giles discusses how Southwest is balancing growth with sustainability, the airline’s net zero roadmap and the crucial role of sustainable aviation fuels (SAF) in reducing the airline’s carbon emissions. She also shares the potential of hydrogen and alternative propulsion systems in aviation, acknowledging their long-term possibilities while also highlighting their current limitations for Southwest’s fleet. Instead, she emphasises the importance of introducing fuel-efficient aircraft, using electric ground support equipment, and maximising operational efficiencies.   

Giles also outlines Southwest’s efforts in contrail reduction, participating in the Contrail Impact Task Force to develop predictive models and contrail avoidance procedures, illustrating the carrier’s multifaceted approach to achieving sustainability in aviation.

If you LOVED this episode, you’ll also love the conversation we had with Holly Boyd-Boland, Virgin Atlantic’s VP Corporate Development & Sustainability about the world’s first net zero transatlantic flight using 100% SAF. Check it out here.

Learn more about the innovators who are navigating the industry’s challenges to make sustainable aviation a reality, in our new book ‘Sustainability in the Air’. Click here to learn more.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.


Links & More:

Southwest Airlines 

Environmental Sustainability Initiatives - Southwest Airlines 

Sustainable Aviation Fuels (SAF) - Southwest Airlines

Southwest Inks 20-Year Jet Fuel Deal in Quest to Go Green - Bloomberg

Southwest Airlines announces new tool to enable support of SAF - Biomass Magazine

Airlines Unite with Tech Sector and Academia to Tackle Climate Challenge of Aviation Contrails - RMI

Virgin Atlantic’s 100% Sustainable Aviation Fuel gambit  

14 Dec 2023How the Airbus ZEROe project will transform aviation00:47:37

In this episode we talk to Bertrand Lestimé, ZEROe Market and Customers Leader at Airbus, who outlines the airframer’s multi-pronged strategy to reach net-zero.

Lestimé shares how Airbus is focusing on fleet renewal, improving operational efficiency and air traffic management, and investing in Sustainable Aviation Fuels (SAF) and carbon removal technologies. A pivotal part of Airbus’ strategy is the ZEROe project, dedicated to developing hydrogen-powered aircraft, seen as a game-changer for the industry.

Lestimé also discusses the challenges associated with integrating hydrogen into aviation – aircraft redesign, setting up requisite infrastructure for production and transport of fuel, hydrogen storage, and the feasibility of transitioning from experimental to commercial hydrogen flight. 

We will also learn about Airbus’ partnerships with industry stakeholders like easyJet, and initiatives like Airbus’ Blue Condor project, that are further accelerating the journey to a zero emissions flight.

If you LOVED this episode, you’ll also love the conversation we had with Sheila Remes, Boeing’s VP of Environmental Sustainability, who shares how the aircraft manufacturer is collaborating with industry stakeholders to move aviation towards its net zero goal. Check it out here.

Learn more about the innovators who are navigating the industry’s challenges to make sustainable aviation a reality, in our new book ‘Sustainability in the Air’. Click here to learn more.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.

Links & More:

ZEROe - Low carbon aviation - Airbus 

Contrail-chasing Blue Condor makes Airbus’ first full hydrogen-powered flight - Airbus 

How Boeing has been working on a net zero future for over a decade - SimpliFlying

Why Airbus is betting big on hydrogen combustion - SimpliFlying 

easyJet and Airbus strike a deal: zero carbon flying with carbon removal credits - Carbon Credits  

easyJet, Airbus and Rolls-Royce launch new ‘Hydrogen in Aviation’ lobby group to accelerate zero-carbon flight - Hydrogen Insight 

21 Dec 2023Is United’s aggressive approach to sustainability a model for the industry?00:37:22

Welcome to the holiday edition of Sustainability in the Air, the world’s #1 podcast on sustainable aviation. Over the next couple of weeks, we will bring to you some of the finest conversations from our archives and add context based on the latest updates from the companies featured.

First up is our episode with Scott Kirby, the CEO of United Airlines, an airline that continues to set new standards in terms of their sustainability commitments and efforts. Since our episode with them—incidentally one of our earliest—they’ve made a number of major announcements that are worth noting.

While we cover these developments in a new introduction to the episode, here’s what you can expect from the episode itself: Kirby highlights United’s commitment to net-zero emissions, focusing on Sustainable Aviation Fuel (SAF), sustainable technology investments, and carbon sequestration over traditional carbon offsets. He points out the limitations of tree planting as a carbon offset method and advocates for direct carbon removal from the atmosphere.

United leads in SAF usage, despite its current high cost and scarcity, and is working on making it more viable through United’s Eco-Skies alliance and government support. Kirby also touches on United Ventures’ efforts in electrifying short-haul flights and a partnership with Boom for a SAF-powered supersonic airliner.

If you LOVED this episode you’ll also love the conversation we had with Carrie Harris, Director of Sustainability at British Airways, who discusses the airline’s commitment to net zero, and the overarching BA Better World sustainability strategy. Check it out here.

Learn more about the innovators who are navigating the industry’s challenges to make sustainable aviation a reality, in our new book ‘Sustainability in the Air’. Click here to learn more.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.


Links & More:

United’s sustainable flight fund grows to nearly US$200 million - Hydrocarbon Engineering

United Airlines inks deal to buy 1B gallons of SAF - PhocusWire

United Airlines Invests in Electric Power Systems to Accelerate Sustainable Aviation Initiatives - SME

Boeing, NASA, United Airlines To Test SAF Benefits with Air-to-Air Flights - Boeing

United, Lufthansa and Deutsche Bahn announce integrated ticket agreement - Airport Technology

Airlines should prioritise storytelling, not statements, on sustainability - Flight Global 

British Airways’ route to sustainability with BA Better World - SimpliFlying 

28 Dec 2023Why Delta’s collaborative strategy is the roadmap for cleaner skies00:47:40

Welcome to the holiday edition of Sustainability in the Air, the world’s #1 podcast on sustainable aviation. Over the next couple of weeks, we will bring to you some of the finest conversations from our archives and add context based on the latest updates from the companies featured.

Following up our first holiday special with Scott Kirby, the CEO of United Airlines is our conversation with Amelia DeLuca, Delta’s Chief Sustainability Officer. Since our episode with Delta—recorded about six months ago—they’ve made a number of major announcements that are worth noting, not least of them being Amelia’s elevation to her new role as Chief Sustainability Officer.

While we cover these developments in a new introduction to the episode, here’s what you can expect from the episode itself: Amelia, leading Delta’s sustainability efforts, has made significant strides in integrating sustainability with customer service. Under her stewardship, Delta is emphasising industry collaboration to reach net zero emissions, focusing on reducing single-use plastics and optimising operations for fuel savings. 

Further, their Sustainable Skies Lab spearheads innovation, partnering with companies like Joby Aviation for eVTOL air taxis. Launched in 2023, Sustainable Skies Lab aims to accelerate sustainable air travel innovation, featuring an Ideation Studio to showcase future solutions. Delta is also working to increase Sustainable Aviation Fuel (SAF) supply, advocating for more production by large energy firms and government support. Additionally, they are collaborating with MIT to study airplane contrails’ environmental impact. 

Learn more about the innovators who are navigating the industry’s challenges to make sustainable aviation a reality, in our new book ‘Sustainability in the Air’. Click here to learn more.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.

Links & More:

Delta’s Chief Sustainability Officer is on a mission to use less fuel - Fast Company
Delta among founders of new aviation fuel coalition - Business Travel News 
Delta in final tests to replace plastic cups with paper on flights - Minneapolis /St. Paul Business Journal
Delta Air Lines, Xcel Energy, Greater MSP push for sustainable aviation fuel (SAF) hub in Minnesota - Star Tribune
Delta Air Lines helps establish 1st large-scale SAF hub in the US & other stories in aviation - SimpliFlying 
Joby wants to alleviate the pain and frustration of getting from home to your airline seat - SimpliFlying 

04 Jan 2024How Red Sea Global’s innovative approach is revolutionising sustainable tourism00:58:14

Welcome to the holiday edition of Sustainability in the Air, the world's #1 podcast on sustainable aviation. Over the past couple of weeks, we have brought to you some of the finest conversations from our archives with added context based on the latest updates from the companies featured.

Following our first holiday special with Scott Kirby, the CEO of United Airlines and second with Amelia DeLuca, Delta’s Chief Sustainability Officer, we bring to you our third and final holiday special: a fascinating conversation with John Pagano, CEO of Red Sea Global.

Since our episode with Red Sea Global—recorded about a year ago—they’ve made a number of major announcements that are worth noting. 

Funded by Saudi Arabia's Public Investment Fund, Red Sea Global is spearheading a new model of eco-tourism on the west coast of Saudia Arabia with a self-imposed ecological ceiling. Their portfolio includes two regenerative tourism destinations – the Red Sea and Amaala.

Embracing a sustainable model, Red Sea Global has committed to 100% renewable energy, primarily solar, making it the world's largest renewable-powered tourism destination. To preserve the environment, the Red Sea Airport is designed to handle a limited number of passengers, aligning with the project's ecological ceiling. Pagano highlights the importance of transparency in their sustainability journey, publishing detailed reports and data to ensure accountability and avoid greenwashing. 

If you LOVED this episode you’ll also love the conversation we had with Dr Susanne Becken from Griffith University, Australia, who discusses various aspects of sustainable travel and its relationship with climate change. Check it out here.

Learn more about the innovators who are navigating the industry’s challenges to make sustainable aviation a reality, in our new book ‘Sustainability in the Air’. Click here to learn more.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.

Links & More:

Red Sea Global announces commitment to coral at Cop28 - Blooloop
How Red Sea Global’s ambitious eco-tourism model could save the planet - SimpliFlying
Saudia Marks Historic Flight to Saudi Arabia's New Red Sea International Airport - Business Traveler USA
Red Sea Global nursery brings life to the desert with 5m plants cultivated in just 3 years - Arab News
Red Sea Global announces first partners for carbon-neutral, smart mobility network at The Red Sea - Red Sea Global
How to rethink tourism and aviation for a greener future - SimpliFlying

11 Jan 2024Are eFuels the holy grail of sustainable aviation fuels?00:29:41

In this episode, we talk to Amy Hebert, Chair of the Board and CEO at Arcadia eFuels, who discusses the rapidly growing field of sustainable aviation fuel (SAF), with a focus on e-fuels. 

eFuels are produced with electricity from renewable sources, water and CO2 and are a sustainable alternative to fossil fuels. Hebert discusses her entry into the field, driven by the untapped potential for carbon-neutral fuels despite existing technologies like Gas to Liquids and green hydrogen electrolysers. Arcadia, her company, aims for rapid market entry and large-scale e-fuel production, targeting significant reductions in CO2 emissions. She highlights challenges in securing long-term offtake agreements and the evolving understanding of e-fuels in the market. 

Hebert also acknowledges the current resource intensity of e-fuels and the high costs of SAF production, emphasising the need for smaller-scale projects and technological advancements. She shares that Arcadia has not yet started producing SAF, with production expected to begin around late 2026 or early 2027. The conversation covers the importance of securing long-term commitments for green hydrogen, engaging with potential customers, and exploring innovative financing solutions. Amy's vision is to enable airlines to use 100% eSAF, facilitating responsible and cost-effective air travel.

If you LOVED this episode you’ll also love the conversation we had with Gene Gebolys, President and CEO at World Energy, the world’s first producer of sustainable aviation fuel (SAF) that has been in the business of renewable fuels for over 25 years. Check it out here.

Learn more about the innovators who are navigating the industry’s challenges to make sustainable aviation a reality, in our new book ‘Sustainability in the Air’. Click here to learn more.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.

Links & More:

Arcadia eFuels 

eFuels: sustainable in two ways 

Arcadia eFuels’ SAF plant to use Plug Power’s electrolyser - Hydrocarbon Engineering

Hitachi Energy selected as consulting partner for world’s first commercial eFuels facility

KGAL invests in Arcadia eFuels’ eSAF project in Denmark - Renewables Now

Arcadia eFuels selects Topsoe and Sasol G2L technology for the first commercial eFuels-for-aviation plant in Denmark - Green Car Congress

First commercial eFuels-for-aviation plant in Denmark on schedule for 2026 - Biofuels International Magazine 

How World Energy is shaping the future of sustainable aviation fuel - SimpliFlying 

18 Jan 2024Why IAG is focusing on the practicality of SAF more than emerging technologies00:49:24

In this episode, we talk to Jonathon Counsell, Group Head of Sustainability at International Airlines Group (IAG).

IAG is the parent company of British Airways, Iberia, Vueling, Aer Lingus, LEVEL, IAG Loyalty and IAG Cargo. The group plays a critical role in setting the sustainability strategy and targets for its subsidiary airlines, and collaborates with governments and investors to realise these goals.

Counsell emphasises the importance of sustainable aviation fuel (SAF) in decarbonising aviation and discusses IAG’s SAF strategy. For example, in 2021, IAG became the first European airline group to commit to a target of 10% SAF for all fuel needs by 2030. 

Counsell also highlights the complexities involved in the transition towards SAF, the disparity in global SAF policies – especially between the US and the EU – and the critical role of investors in this transition. He also discusses the various generations of SAF, and the exploration of new technologies to achieve sustainability goals in the airline industry. 

If you LOVED this episode you’ll also love the conversation we had with Carrie Harris, Director of Sustainability at British Airways, who discusses the airline’s commitment to net zero, and the overarching BA Better World sustainability strategy. Check it out here.

Learn more about the innovators who are navigating the industry’s challenges to make sustainable aviation a reality, in our new book ‘Sustainability in the Air’. Click here to learn more.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.

Links & More:

International Airlines Group (IAG)

Sustainability strategy - IAG 

IAG looks to secure international support to power 10% of its flights with SAF by 2030 - GreenAir 

British Airways’ route to sustainability with BA Better World - SimpliFlying 

IAG and Microsoft sign major SAF deal - Airport Technology 


25 Jan 2024How the RSB is nudging aviation towards a biocircular economy00:47:12

In this episode, we talk to Elena Schmidt, Executive Director of the Roundtable on Sustainable Biomaterials (RSB).

RSB is a global, multi-stakeholder independent organisation that drives the development of a new world bio-economy through sustainability solutions, certification, and collaborative partnerships.

Schmidt acknowledges the difficulties in decarbonising aviation, given the reliance on fossil fuels and the current limitations of alternatives like hydrogen or electric planes. RSB views the ‘book and claim’ system for sustainable aviation fuels (SAF) as an effective solution. 

In 2021, RSB launched a SAF book and claim pilot with Air bp to enable certified SAF claims from Microsoft and United Airlines. The RSB Book & Claim System, aims to develop a credible and effective book and claim mechanism to expand the outreach of SAF and accelerate decarbonisation. 

If you LOVED this episode you’ll also love the conversation we had with Haldane Dodd, Executive Director at Air Transport Action Group (ATAG), who shares how the non-profit is assisting the aviation’s net-zero journey. Check it out here.

Learn more about the innovators who are navigating the industry’s challenges to make sustainable aviation a reality, in our new book ‘Sustainability in the Air’. Click here to learn more.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.


Links & More:

Roundtable on Sustainable Biomaterials Association - RSB

RSB book and claim programme - RSB 

Microsoft, United Airlines and SABA join RSB and Air bp pilot for first-ever SAF book and claim transaction - GreenAir News

Boeing and RSB expand SAF study to South East Asia - Airport Technology 

The non-profit working behind the scenes to get aviation to net zero by 2050 - SimpliFlying 

01 Feb 2024From Legislation to Lift-off: The Drive for Sustainable Aviation Fuel in Washington00:44:51

In this episode, we talk to Senator Andy Billig, Senate Majority Leader at Washington State Senate, on how he has spearheaded efforts to integrate environmental stewardship with legislative action in Washington State.

Billig’s journey in sustainable aviation fuel (SAF) began in 2012, leading to pivotal legislation like Senate Bill 5447, which incentivises SAF production to complement Washington’s aerospace and technological sectors. The bill, developed through extensive consultation with stakeholders and aimed at boosting local SAF production, has been well-received for its flexibility and environmental focus. Despite challenges in educating legislators and addressing misconceptions about SAF versus other green technologies, the bill passed with near-unanimous support.

Post-passage, significant strides have been made, including SkyNRG’s plant establishment and BP’s exploration of a SAF production facility, marking progress in Washington State’s SAF ecosystem. Billig addresses concerns about the bill’s scope and the need for a balanced, data-informed approach to SAF development, emphasising the role of technology-neutral legislation and the importance of market dynamics in resource allocation. He highlights the need for continued education, collaboration, and ensuring the sustainability of feedstocks, reflecting on the complexities of advancing SAF within the broader context of environmental and economic sustainability.

If you LOVED this episode you’ll also love the conversation we had with Dr Susanne Becken, Professor of Sustainable Tourism at Griffith University, Australia, who discusses various aspects of sustainable travel and its relationship with climate change. Check it out here.

Learn more about the innovators who are navigating the industry’s challenges to make sustainable aviation a reality, in our new book ‘Sustainability in the Air’. Click here to learn more.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.


Links & More:

Biography - Sen. Andy Billig 

New $800M sustainable aviation fuel plant planned for Washington state - The Seattle Times 

BP analyses SAF production at its Cherry Point refinery - The Daily Digest

Twelve announces plans to scale production of SAF in Washington State - Biofuels International Magazine 

Billig bill to incentivize clean jet fuel, spur job creation clears Senate - Sen. Andy Billig 

How to rethink tourism and aviation for a greener future - SimpliFlying 

08 Feb 2024How IATA envisions merging economics and sustainability in aviation00:57:27

In this episode, we talk to Marie Owens Thomsen, Senior Vice President Sustainability & Chief Economist at the International Air Transport Association (IATA), on the integration of sustainability and economics within the aviation sector, highlighting the pivotal role of Sustainable Aviation Fuels (SAF) and the challenges of balancing growth with environmental stewardship. 

Thomsen emphasises the interconnectedness of economic considerations and environmental sustainability, advocating for a systemic approach that extends beyond aviation to include energy producers, policymakers, and financial institutions.

The conversation further delves into the nuances of SAF production, underscoring the importance of diversifying and scaling technological pathways for SAF. Addressing criticisms of the aviation industry’s sustainability efforts, Thomsen highlights the industry’s proactive initiatives, positioning aviation as an early mover towards decarbonisation.

She also suggests that airlines explore vertical integration and alternative revenue streams to enhance both sustainability and economic resilience, reflecting on the industry’s recovery from the COVID-19 pandemic and the need for diversified business models to withstand future challenges.

If you LOVED this episode you’ll also love the conversation we had with Haldane Dodd, Executive Director at Air Transport Action Group (ATAG), about how the non-profit is assisting the aviation industry in its net-zero by 2050 journey. Check it out here.

Learn more about the innovators who are navigating the industry’s challenges to make sustainable aviation a reality, in our new book ‘Sustainability in the Air’. Click here to learn more.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.

Links & More:

Our Commitment to Fly Net Zero by 2050 - IATA 

Developing Sustainable Aviation Fuel (SAF) - IATA 

CORSIA explained 

SAF Offtake Agreements - ICAO  

IATA - Strengthened Global Framework for Accelerating Aviation’s Decarbonization

IATA - Net Zero Roadmaps 

The non-profit working behind the scenes to get aviation to net zero by 2050 - SimpliFlying 

15 Feb 2024How Twelve’s carbon transformation technology is making carbon-neutral fuels a reality00:35:30

In this episode, we talk to Nicholas Flanders, Co-Founder and CEO of carbon transformation company, Twelve, who highlights the pivotal role of clean technology in addressing environmental challenges, particularly in hard-to-decarbonise sectors like aviation.

The versatility of Twelve’s technology is underscored by their ability to transform CO2 into a wide range of products, from sunglasses and washing detergents to car parts. Twelve’s innovative sustainable aviation fuel (SAF), called E-Jet®, made from CO2 and water, has up to 90% lower lifecycle emissions than conventional fuel. Flanders also shares E-jet’s journey from its initial testing with the US Air Force to securing commercial partnerships with Alaska Airlines, Microsoft and Shopify.

With a foundational vision of cost competitiveness, Twelve aims to revolutionise the industry and offer customers the lowest possible cost pathway to reduce emissions. Flanders also emphasises the strategic importance of green electricity and multi-year offtake agreements for scaling SAF production.

If you LOVED this episode you’ll also love the conversation we had with  Dave Kettner, President and General Counsel at Virent, who shares the company’s innovative contributions in the field of renewable fuels and chemicals. Check it out here.

Learn more about the innovators who are navigating the industry’s challenges to make sustainable aviation a reality, in our new book ‘Sustainability in the Air’. Click here to learn more.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.


Links & More:

E-Jet fuel - Twelve 

Twelve Launches First Commercial-Scale SAF Production Facility - Carbon Herald 

Alaska Airlines looks to ‘carbon transformation’ company Twelve for SAF supply - Flight Global  

Etihad Airways plans to use sustainable fuel made from CO2 - Sustainability Magazine

Alaska Airlines, Microsoft and Twelve partner to advance new form of sustainable aviation fuel - Alaska Airlines 

22 Feb 2024How the Sustainable Skies Lab is advancing sustainability beyond Delta’s operations00:39:50

In this episode, we talk to Sangita Sharma, Director of Delta Air Lines’ Sustainable Skies Lab, who shares how the lab is fostering innovation and accelerating a sustainable future for air travel.

The Sustainable Skies Lab aims to advance research, design and testing for transformative sustainable innovations, for both near-term and long-term environmental goals. The lab seeks to merge Delta’s extensive operational knowledge with cutting-edge innovations across the aviation industry, creating a collaborative environment for testing and scaling new technologies. An example of the lab’s efforts is ongoing testing of sustainable taxiing technologies, such as super tugs, that can potentially offer significant fuel savings, by allowing aircraft to taxi without using the main engines.

Sharma discusses Delta’s commitment to advancing sustainability beyond its own operations, aiming to drive broader industry progress. She highlights the pivotal role of employee engagement and knowledge exchange; Delta’s close collaboration with SkyTeam partners; and the lab’s disciplined framework for applied innovation in driving the industry towards net zero 2050 goals.

If you LOVED this episode you’ll also love the conversation we had with Delta Air Lines’ Chief Sustainability Officer, Amelia DeLuca who shares the airline’s collaborative vision for sustainability. Check it out here.

Learn more about the innovators who are navigating the industry’s challenges to make sustainable aviation a reality, in our new book ‘Sustainability in the Air’. Click here to learn more.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.

Links & More:

Delta to launch innovation lab to accelerate the more sustainable future of flight - Delta Air Lines

Delta’s sustainability push is powered by a surprising customer insight - SimpliFlying  

Sustainability - Delta Air Lines 

Delta Sustainability Chief discusses cutting airline’s footprint and shift away from offsets - WSJ 

Delta recognized for innovation in Sustainable Flight Challenge - Aviation Source News

29 Feb 2024RMI's multi-pronged approach to decarbonising aviation includes SAF & contrails01:06:14

In this episode, we talk to Andrew Chen, Principal for Aviation Decarbonisation at RMI. Founded in 1982 as Rocky Mountain Institute, RMI is an independent, non-partisan, non-profit that seeks to transform the global energy system to ensure a clean, zero-carbon future.   

Chen discusses RMI's multi-faceted approach to aviation decarbonisation, which includes stimulating demand for Sustainable Aviation Fuels (SAF) and addressing aviation's non-CO2 emissions – specifically, the environmental impacts of contrails. He also touches upon RMI's broader mission concerning the decarbonisation of heavy industry and transportation sectors.

Central to the conversation is the pivotal role of SAF in reducing aviation's carbon footprint. Chen discusses how RMI, through initiatives like the Sustainable Aviation Buyers Alliance (SABA), is working to overcome the challenges posed by the current "green premium" associated with SAF. This involves mobilising corporate demand and leveraging technologies such as blockchain for the traceability of SAF certificates, thereby enhancing transparency and accountability in SAF transactions.

Furthermore, Chen highlights the significant investments required to scale SAF production and the necessity of collaborative efforts across the aviation value chain for sustainable growth. He reflects on his experiences at Heathrow Airport, emphasising the critical role airports play in SAF adoption and the need for industry-wide collaboration.

If you LOVED this episode you’ll also love the conversation we had with Elena Schmidt, Executive Director of the Roundtable on Sustainable Biomaterials (RSB), about the journey of RSB in fostering sustainability, especially in the aviation and travel industries. Check it out here.

Learn more about the innovators who are navigating the industry’s challenges to make sustainable aviation a reality, in our new book ‘Sustainability in the Air’. Click here to learn more.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.


Links & More:

Decarbonizing Aviation - RMI 

SABA announces collective purchase of SAF certificates - Biofuels International Magazine

Clean Energy 101: Book and Claim - RMI

Contrail Mitigation: A Milestone Year for Advancing Industry Understanding and Experience - RMI

Flight100: Virgin Atlantic and RMI test new ways to reduce aviation’s climate impact - Virgin 

How the RSB is nudging aviation towards a bio-circular economy - SimpliFlying 

07 Mar 2024Salesforce’s unique approach to advancing sustainable aviation00:40:03

In this episode, we talk to Jamila Yamani, Director of Climate & Energy at Salesforce, who shares fascinating insights into the company’s commitment to sustainability, and how the company is taking a unique approach to advancing sustainable aviation as a non-airline entity.

Yamani discusses why sustainability matters to Salesforce, emphasising that it’s not just about risk mitigation but also about leveraging their platform to accelerate the global transition to net zero. She highlights Salesforce’s role in sponsoring the Sustainable Aviation Challenge, launched by UpLink in partnership with the World Economic Forum and the First Movers Coalition, which aims to identify and elevate promising sustainable aviation technologies globally.

As part of the First Movers Coalition, Salesforce has committed to buying SAF certificates equal to 5% of their air travel emissions. Yamani shares the challenges of navigating SAF certificates and off-takes as an end buyer, and how Salesforce has made initial purchases with United and JetBlue to start figuring out the complexities.

To address the risks of greenwashing, Salesforce emphasises the importance of considering the full lifecycle impacts of SAF, especially fuels from biological resources. Yamani stresses the need for a diverse portfolio of SAF solutions and the critical role of sustainable feedstock sourcing.

If you LOVED this episode you’ll also love the conversation we had with Andrew Chen, Principal for Aviation Decarbonisation at RMI, who discusses the RMI’s multi-faceted approach to aviation decarbonisation. Check it out here.

Learn more about the innovators who are navigating the industry’s challenges to make sustainable aviation a reality, in our new book ’Sustainability in the Air’. Click here to learn more.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.

Links & More:

Environmental Sustainability - Salesforce 

Sustainable Aviation Challenge - UpLink 

Salesforce and JetBlue build on partnership to accelerate their shared journey toward sustainable air travel - Salesforce 

A guide to how Salesforce sustainability efforts support COP28 objectives - Salesforce 

Why RMI’s multi-pronged approach to decarbonising aviation includes SAF & contrails 

14 Mar 2024Archer’s vision for safe, affordable, and accessible eVTOL travel00:49:55

In this episode, we talk to Billy Nolen, Chief Safety Officer at Archer Aviation, a leading electric vertical takeoff and landing (eVTOL) aircraft company. Nolen recently joined Archer after a distinguished career at the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), bringing with him a wealth of experience in aviation safety and regulation.

Nolen provides an in-depth look at Archer’s progress in certifying their eVTOL aircraft, Midnight, for commercial passenger service. He outlines the rigorous FAA certification process, and expresses confidence in Archer’s timeline, which expects to enter service in 2025.

Central to the conversation is Archer’s approach to ensuring the safety and reliability of their eVTOL aircraft. Nolen emphasises the multiple redundancies built into Midnight’s design, and asserts that once certified, Midnight will be as safe as any commercial airliner flying today. He also explains Midnight’s design optimisation for urban air mobility (UAM) missions and the rapid charging capabilities that enable quick turnarounds between flights.

Nolen also discusses the importance of public acceptance and the role of education in normalising eVTOL travel. He shares Archer’s vision of making urban air mobility accessible and affordable, with prices eventually reaching levels comparable to Uber X. 

If you LOVED this episode you’ll also enjoy the conversation we had with Archer’s Founder & CEO Adam Goldstein, who shares how the startup aims to make air travel greener through incremental and innovative technologies. Check it out here.

Learn more about the innovators who are navigating the industry’s challenges to make sustainable aviation a reality, in our new book ‘Sustainability in the Air’. Click here to learn more.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.


Links & More:

Archer Aviation 

Electric Air Taxis Have Landed Vertically - Archer Aviation 

Archer Begins Building Electric Air Taxis for FAA Certification - FLYING Magazine 

Archer Aviation and NASA to study AAM battery tech - Airport Technology 

Archer Aviation aims to launch all-electric air taxi service in India in 2026 - TechCrunch 

Why eVTOLS will change the way we live, travel and spend time - SimpliFlying 

21 Mar 2024How Google is empowering sustainable travel choices through technology and collaboration00:47:03

In this episode, we speak with Sebnem Erzan, Global Head of Travel Sustainability & Transport at Google. Erzan shares the tech giant’s vision for sustainable travel, which focuses on empowering users with accurate and consistent information to make environmentally conscious travel decisions.

Erzan highlights the importance of the Travel Impact Model, a transparent and non-commercial tool developed by Google to calculate carbon emissions for flights. The model, overseen by an independent advisory committee, is available to the entire industry, fostering collaboration and alignment in emissions measurement. 

She also discusses Google’s ongoing efforts to enhance user experience by providing meaningful context to carbon emissions data, such as comparing emissions to the amount of CO2 absorbed by trees. She emphasises the need for consistent information across platforms to avoid confusion and drive behavioural change.

Erzan also underscores the significance of collaboration and partnerships within the industry. Google works closely with various stakeholders, including airlines, NGOs, and policymakers, to align methodologies and improve the accuracy of emissions calculations. Notably, Google’s collaboration with ICAO aims to establish global standards and enhance the accuracy of flight emissions calculations.

If you LOVED this episode you’ll also love the conversation we had with Nora Lovell Marchant, Vice President of Global Sustainability at Amex GBT, about the company’s net zero efforts such as a blockchain-powered Sustainable Aviation Fuel (SAF) platform, an independently verified carbon offsetting programme and more... Check it out here.

Learn more about the innovators who are navigating the industry’s challenges to make sustainable aviation a reality, in our new book ‘Sustainability in the Air’. Click here to learn more.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.

Links & More:

Travel Impact Model 

ICAO and Google to collaborate on improving methodology for calculating flight carbon emissions - ICAO 

Google hands over its tool for estimating flight emissions to an independent advisory group - The Verge 

How emissions are estimated - Google Travel Help 

Google Joins Amex GBT SAF Program - Business Travel News 

How Amex GBT is building platforms for SAF and Carbon Offsets - SimpliFlying 

28 Mar 2024How Truckee Tahoe Airport is transitioning towards its 100% SAF goal00:32:42

In this episode, we speak with Robb Etnyre, General Manager at Truckee Tahoe Airport (KTRK), a pioneering general aviation airport that has become the first in the world to fully transition to sustainable aviation fuel (SAF). Located near the Sierra Nevada mountains of California, Truckee Tahoe Airport serves a diverse range of private and business aviation customers.

Etnyre shares the story of KTRK’s decision to power 100% of their flights using SAF, driven by the impacts of climate change witnessed firsthand in the region, such as severe wildfires and smoke. He highlights the airport’s commitment to reducing its carbon footprint, particularly its scope 3 emissions from jet fuel sales, which amount to approximately 500,000 gallons annually. 

Etnyre also discusses the role of stakeholder engagement and education in the successful adoption of SAF. He also shares the customer response to Truckee Tahoe Airport’s SAF transition, noting the general support from most operators who align with the airport’s sustainability goals.

Etnyre delves into the challenges of ensuring a reliable and cost-effective SAF supply chain for small airports, while also highlighting their potential in driving significant change in the industry by sending strong market signals for low-carbon fuels.

If you LOVED this episode you’ll also love the conversation we had with Paul Griffiths, CEO of Dubai Airports, about the sustainability initiatives at one of the largest airports in the world. Check it out here.

Learn more about the innovators who are navigating the industry’s challenges to make sustainable aviation a reality, in our new book ‘Sustainability in the Air’. Click here to learn more.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.


Links & More:

Truckee Tahoe Airport 

Sustainable Aviation Fuel - Truckee Tahoe Airport

Truckee Tahoe Airport Goes All-in on Sustainable Aviation Fuel - Airport Improvement 

Avfuel expands SAF reach with supply at Truckee Tahoe Airport District - Bioenergy International 

How do you decarbonise a major airport? - SimpliFlying 


04 Apr 2024Jet Zero Council’s Collaborative Approach to Decarbonising UK Aviation00:36:02

In this episode, we talk to Rachel Gardner-Poole, who chairs the Zero Emission Flight (ZEF) Delivery Group within the UK’s Jet Zero Council. Established in 2020, the Jet Zero Council is a collaborative effort between the government, industry, and academia to achieve net zero emissions in UK aviation by 2050.

Gardner-Poole discusses the UK Government’s multi-departmental involvement in the Jet Zero Council, highlighting the importance of cross-departmental collaboration in achieving net zero emissions. The conversation centers on the various strategies and technologies being explored to decarbonise UK aviation. Gardner-Poole emphasises the crucial role of SAF in the UK’s decarbonisation strategy, with a target of 10% SAF by 2030. She also discusses the potential of hydrogen and electric aircraft, particularly for short-haul flights and smaller aircraft, while acknowledging the longer timeline for their widespread adoption.

Gardner-Poole touches upon the challenges associated with developing the necessary infrastructure for hydrogen and electric aircraft, as well as the importance of international cooperation in making zero-emission flight viable on a global scale. She also addresses the Jet Zero Council’s focus on non-CO2 emissions and contrails, and the ongoing research in this area.

If you LOVED this episode you’ll also love the conversation we had with Marie Owens Thomsen, Senior Vice President Sustainability & Chief Economist at the International Air Transport Association (IATA), on the integration of sustainability and economics within the aviation sector. Check it out here.

Learn more about the innovators who are navigating the industry’s challenges to make sustainable aviation a reality, in our new book ’Sustainability in the Air’. Click here to learn more.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.


Links & More: 

Jet Zero Council - GOV.UK 

Jet Zero Council announces two-year plan for UK aviation decarbonisation - Airport Technology

UK Jet Zero Council details plans to accelerate SAF production - Biodiesel Magazine

UK Proposes Revenue Scheme to Support Sustainable Fuel Industry - Aviation Week Network 

Australia in Lock-step with UK on Net Zero - Australian Flying 

11 Apr 2024Gatwick Airport aims to reach net zero 20 years early00:44:14

In this episode, we talk to Mark Edwards, Head of Sustainability at London Gatwick. As one of the busiest airports in Europe, Gatwick has set an ambitious target to achieve net zero emissions by 2030, 20 years ahead of the UK’s national target.

Edwards discusses Gatwick’s multi-faceted approach to sustainability, which includes addressing Scope 1 and 2 emissions through the use of renewable electricity, transitioning away from fossil fuels through the use of hydrotreated vegetable oil (HVO), and gradually converting their vehicle fleet to electric. He also touches upon the challenges of reducing Scope 3 emissions, which primarily come from airline operations and are outside the airport’s direct control.

Edwards elaborates on Gatwick’s role in supporting sustainable aviation initiatives. He highlights the airport’s efforts to increase the supply of Sustainable Aviation Fuel (SAF) in the region, engage passengers about carbon offsetting and SAF, advocate for government support, and potentially incentivise airlines to use more SAF. 

In addition, Edwards also shares Gatwick’s preparations to support the future use of hydrogen and electric-powered aircraft, emphasising the importance of collaboration with airlines and manufacturers to ensure the airport is “jet zero ready.” 

Please note: This interview was recorded in January 2024. Since then London Gatwick Airport has swapped diesel for HVO. Moreover, the public hearing for the Northern Runway Project began in February 2024.

If you LOVED this episode you’ll also love the conversation we had with Robb Etnyre, General Manager of Truckee Tahoe Airport, who shares how the airport has become the first in the world to fully transition to SAF. Check it out here.

Learn more about the innovators who are navigating the industry’s challenges to make sustainable aviation a reality, in our new book ‘Sustainability in the Air’. Click here to learn more.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.


Links & More:

London Gatwick Airport 

Sustainability - London Gatwick Airport 

London Gatwick switches 300 diesel vehicles to hydrotreated vegetable oil - Passenger Terminal Today 

Gatwick’s Plans For Second Runway Take Shape - Aviation Week Network 

How Truckee Tahoe Airport is transitioning towards its 100% SAF goal - SimpliFlying 

18 Apr 2024How Beyond Aero is transforming private aviation with its hydrogen-electric vision00:57:35

In this episode, we talk to Eloa Guillotin, the Co-Founder & CEO at Beyond Aero. Founded with the vision of providing a sustainable alternative to traditional private jets, Beyond Aero aims to revolutionise the industry by focusing on the CS-23 certification category for a six-passenger aircraft.

Guillotin discusses Beyond Aero’s innovative approach to aircraft design, which involves a 100% electric powertrain powered by hydrogen fuel cells. This design choice allows for an extended range of up to 800 nautical miles, making it suitable for popular routes in Europe and the United States. She also highlights the company’s core focus on redesigning aircraft architecture around the hydrogen powertrain while leveraging existing subsystems and partnerships with suppliers.

Central to the conversation is the growing demand for sustainable private jet travel and the positive market response to Beyond Aero’s vision. Guillotin reveals that the company has secured over $600 million in letters of intent for their planned business aircraft from a diverse client base, including private jet operators, high-net-worth individuals, and public personalities.

Furthermore, Guillotin also addresses the challenges surrounding hydrogen availability and infrastructure, emphasising that Beyond Aero is part of a larger industry shift towards hydrogen-powered aviation. She discusses the company’s partnerships with over 50 airports worldwide, led by Aéroports de Paris (ADP), to develop hydrogen refueling facilities and implement these infrastructures.

If you LOVED this episode you’ll also love the conversation we had with Anders Forslund, CEO of Heart Aerospace who shares how regional electric air travel can transform the aviation industry. Check it out here.

Learn more about the innovators who are navigating the industry’s challenges to make sustainable aviation a reality, in our new book ‘Sustainability in the Air’. Click here to learn more.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.


Links & More:

Beyond Aero 

France’s Beyond Aero Flies Hydrogen-Electric Demonstrator - Aviation Week Network 

Beyond Aero Takes on Private Jet Emissions with Hydrogen-Powered Vision - SimpliFlying 

Why Heart Aerospace’s electric aircraft is a gamechanger - SimpliFlying 

25 Apr 2024Earth Day Special: SimpliFlying’s first annual Sustainable Aviation Outlook Report00:59:14

In this episode, we speak with SimpliFlying’s CEO Shashank Nigam, COO Shubhodeep Pal and Head of Sustainability, Dirk Singer about the launch of SimpliFlying’s first annual Sustainable Aviation Outlook Report.

As the world reels from the catastrophic consequences of climate change, the question of what the aviation industry can do about sustainability is rife with divided opinions. Is net zero by 2050 realistic? Is it equitable for all? Do we have the money to make it happen? Will customers support it? Aviation’s pathways to net zero are also hotly contested.

As the industry navigates its complex transition towards a sustainable future, the Sustainable Aviation Outlook Report aims to offer hope, reassurance, answers and some helpful suggestions along the way.

Based on a survey of 20 leading carriers from around the world, including major players such as Air France-KLM, British Airways, Lufthansa Group, All Nippon Airways, and Southwest Airlines, the report seeks to assess the current state of sustainability efforts, identify best practices and challenges. Complemented with comprehensive and rich data from Cirium and Envest Global, SimpliFlying’s Sustainable Aviation Outlook Report aims to provide insights into how carriers can effectively integrate sustainability into their business strategies.

Learn more about the innovators who are navigating the industry’s challenges to make sustainable aviation a reality, in our new book ‘Sustainability in the Air’. Click here to learn more.


Links & More:

Sustainable Aviation Outlook Report 2024 - SimpliFlying 

Sustainability in the Air - The Book - SimpliFlying

From Ground to Cloud: Will The Billions Invested In Sustainable Aviation Truly Decarbonise The Industry? - SimpliFlying

Understanding Sustainable Aviation in 40 Charts (Plus, Case Studies!) - SimpliFlying  

02 May 2024How Safe Landing is challenging the status quo for a greener future in aviation01:15:00

In this episode, we talk to Finlay Asher, co-founder of Safe Landing, a global community of aviation workers who are working within the sector to reduce the climate impact of aviation. 

Asher emphasises the need for a holistic approach to sustainable aviation, which goes beyond efficiency improvements and includes demand reduction measures. He touches upon the challenges of balancing growth and sustainability in the aviation industry, highlighting the need for government intervention and the enforcement of carbon budgets to ensure a managed transition. 

The potential and limitations of Sustainable Aviation Fuels (SAFs) are also discussed, with Asher calling for evidence-based analysis and prioritisation of decarbonisation efforts. He stresses the importance of equity and fairness in aviation decarbonisation, advocating for a progressive allocation of carbon-constrained growth and the need for developed nations to lead the way in emissions reductions.

If you LOVED this episode you’ll also love the conversation we had with Hiske Arts, Campaigner at Fossielvrij NL, who discusses the climate activists’ scepticism about the aviation industry’s commitment to addressing climate concerns. Check it out here.

Learn more about the innovators who are navigating the industry’s challenges to make sustainable aviation a reality, in our new book ‘Sustainability in the Air’. Click here to learn more.


Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.

Links & More:

https://safe-landing.org/

https://green.simpliflying.com/p/dan-rutherford-icct 

https://safe-landing.org/saf-position/ 

https://green.simpliflying.com/p/hiske-arts-campaigner-fossil-free-nl 


09 May 2024From offsetting to insetting: Harbour Air’s innovative approach to sustainable aviation00:46:40

In this episode, we talk to three key members of Harbour Air, North America’s largest seaplane airline. Harbour Air’s CEO Bert Van Der Stege, Engineering and Quality Manager Erika Holtz, and Head of Digital and Customer Experience Suzanne Bremski discuss the airline’s vision for the future of electric aviation.

Harbour Air has a strong track record of prioritising sustainability, being the first airline to introduce carbon offsetting in 2007. The airline was also the first to operate an electric plane in 2019 with its e-plane initiative, and has committed to build the world’s first all-electric commercial fleet. Harbour Air’s unique operating conditions, including short flight times and low altitudes, make it well-suited for the transition to an all-electric airline.

The conversation also delves into Harbour Air’s shift from carbon offsetting to insetting, which involves taking actions or making investments within the airline’s operations, production or value chain for long-term, sustainable mitigation or avoidance of emissions. The interviewees also discuss the positive customer response to Harbour Air’s electric aviation initiatives, the current state of battery technology, and the importance of collaborations and partnerships in advancing sustainable aviation.

If you LOVED this episode you’ll also love the conversation we had with Harbour Air’s former CEO, Greg McDougall, who discusses the airline’s strong resolve to be an early adopter of disruptive technologies. Check it out here.

Learn more about the innovators who are navigating the industry’s challenges to make sustainable aviation a reality, in our new book ‘Sustainability in the Air’. Click here to learn more.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.

Links & More:

Harbour Air 

Moving past carbon neutral - Harbour Air

Carbon insetting vs offsetting - World Economic Forum 

Harbour Air Delays “eBeaver” Service Entry - Airways 

How Harbour Air is revolutionising aviation with their electric aircraft technology - SimpliFlying 


16 May 2024How Elysian’s 90-seater aircraft promises a breakthrough in electric aviation00:47:46

In this episode, we talk to Daniel Rosen Jacobson, co-founder, co-CEO and Chief Business Officer of Elysian Aircraft, a startup that is developing a clean-sheet 90-seater battery electric aircraft.

Jacobson discusses Elysian’s unique approach to electric aviation, which focuses on a larger aircraft capable of carrying passengers over distances of about 800 km – longer than most current electric aircraft concepts. By targeting the busy short-haul market with a plane that can operate at costs competitive with conventional jets, Elysian aims to make a significant impact on the sustainability of regional air travel.

Jacobson also delves into the technical aspects of Elysian’s E9x aircraft design, which features a large wing with integrated batteries, and folding wingtips for airport compatibility. He also touches upon the challenges of certifying such a novel aircraft and the importance of collaborating with regulators and industry partners.

If you LOVED this episode you’ll also love the conversation we had with Heart Aerospace’s CEO Anders Forslund, who discusses how regional electric air travel can transform the industry while addressing the key sustainability challenges. Check it out here.

Learn more about the innovators who are navigating the industry’s challenges to make sustainable aviation a reality, in our new book ‘Sustainability in the Air’. Click here to learn more.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.


Links & More:

Elysian Aircraft

Start-up Elysian reveals first 90 passenger battery-electric aircraft - Airport Technology 

Elysian unveils advisory board drawn from across the ‘aviation ecosystem’ - Flight Global

Electric aircraft may have more potential than we thought - Bloomberg 

Why Heart Aerospace’s electric aircraft is a gamechanger - SimpliFlying 


23 May 2024Alaska Airlines’ multi-faceted approach to achieving net zero by 204000:56:29

In this episode, we talk to Diana Birkett Rakow, Senior Vice President of Public Affairs & Sustainability at Alaska Airlines, who shares the airline’s ambitious goal of achieving net zero emissions by 2040.

To reach the 2040 goal, Alaska Airlines has developed a comprehensive five-part path. The plan includes focusing on operational efficiency, fleet modernisation, sustainable aviation fuels (SAF), new propulsion technologies, and the use of carbon credits as a last resort.

Rakow discusses the importance of employee and customer engagement in advancing the airline’s sustainability goals. She shares the airline’s unique bonus program that ties 10% of every employee’s annual bonus to achieving carbon intensity targets. Rakow also discusses the airline’s efforts to engage customers in sustainability initiatives by enabling the purchase of nature-based offsets and SAF credits, and offering loyalty rewards.

Rakow emphasises the significance of collaborations with companies like Microsoft and Twelve in developing and utilising SAF. She also delves into the airline’s investments in future technologies, such as their partnership with ZeroAvia to develop hydrogen-electric powertrains for regional aircraft, and the role of the airline’s venture investment arm, Alaska Star Ventures, in identifying and supporting innovations that accelerate the path to net zero emissions.

Please note: Alaska Airlines established its headquarters in Seattle in the early 1960s. The decade was misstated in the episode. 

If you LOVED this episode you’ll also love the conversation we had with Delta Air Lines’ Chief Sustainability Officer Amelia DeLuca, who shares the airline’s collaborative vision for sustainability. Check it out here.

Learn more about the innovators who are navigating the industry’s challenges to make sustainable aviation a reality, in our new book ‘Sustainability in the Air’. Click here to learn more.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.


Links & More:

ESG Environmental Social Governance - Alaska Airlines

Flying with purpose: Alaska sets new climate goals, including net-zero carbon emissions by 2040 - Alaska Airlines

Alaska Airlines, Twelve & Microsoft collaborate to use Sustainable Aviation Fuel produced from captured CO2 - ESG Today

Alaska Airlines, ZeroAvia to develop world’s largest zero-emission aircraft - Flight Global

Delta’s sustainability push is powered by a surprising customer insight 

30 May 2024The ICCT’s bitter but essential prescription for net zero emissions by 205000:56:00

In this episode, we welcome back Dan Rutherford, Senior Director of Research at the International Council on Clean Transportation (ICCT), for his second appearance on the show. Rutherford shares his insights on the latest developments, partnerships, and challenges in reducing aviation emissions and achieving net-zero emissions by 2050.

Rutherford discusses ICCT's expanded collaborations with industry partners, governments, and non-governmental organisations to apply their research directly to various projects and initiatives aimed at reducing aviation emissions. He highlights their work with Google on the Travel Impact Model (TIM), which aims to provide consumers with accurate, precise, and transparent emissions estimates when booking flights.

The conversation delves into the challenges of achieving net-zero emissions by 2050, with Rutherford providing sobering projections and emphasises the critical role of sustainable aviation fuels (SAFs) in bridging the gap, given the long lifespan of aircraft and the slow development of alternative technologies like hydrogen.

The discussion also touches on the concept of a frequent flyer levy as a potential progressive taxation method to fund the transition to net-zero emissions. Rutherford emphasises the importance of consumer awareness and action in driving change within the aviation industry. The conversation concludes with Rutherford highlighting the role of multi-stakeholder initiatives and partnerships between organisations like ICCT and airlines, manufacturers, and other industry players in driving the transition to a cleaner, more sustainable future for aviation.

If you LOVED this episode you’ll enjoy revisiting one of our earliest episodes – also with Dan – who sets the stage for understanding the future of sustainable aviation and the trajectory airlines and governments need to follow to get to net-zero emissions. Check it out here.

Learn more about the innovators who are navigating the industry’s challenges to make sustainable aviation a reality, in our new book ‘Sustainability in the Air’. Click here to learn more.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.

Links & More:

About - International Council on Clean Transportation 

Vision 2050: A strategy to decarbonize the global transport sector by mid-century - ICCT 

The ICCT and Google establish new partnership on lower carbon travel search - ICCT

Travel Impact Model API - Google for Developers 

Aviation climate finance using a global frequent flying levy - ICCT

Dan Rutherford on net-zero roadmaps and transitioning to sustainable technologies - SimpliFlying 


06 Jun 2024IATA’s blueprint for accelerating SAF production and adoption01:15:27

In our first-ever bilingual episode, we talk to Preeti Jain, Head of Net Zero Transition Program at the International Air Transport Association (IATA). Jain provides an in-depth look at the challenges and opportunities in scaling up sustainable aviation fuel (SAF) to help aviation achieve its goal of net zero emissions by 2050. 

The interview is presented in two parts: English followed by Hindi. 

Jain discusses the current SAF landscape, highlighting the stark mismatch between demand and supply. Emphasising the need for greater SAF production, she estimates that a 1000-fold increase is required by 2050, amounting to roughly 300 new SAF plants each year. This rapid scale-up, however, is hindered by several challenges: inconsistent policy support, high capital costs and under-developed feedstock supply chains.

IATA’s strategy for overcoming these challenges involves a multi-pronged approach focusing on feedstocks, technology development, policy support, and collaboration across stakeholders. Jain emphasises the need for policies that encourage SAF production and adoption, and commends the U.S. Inflation Reduction Act and California’s Low Carbon Fuel Standard as good examples. She sees potential in leveraging existing refinery infrastructure for SAF production, and expects SAF’s cost to decline over time as more facilities are deployed and technologies mature.

Jain also discusses the potential for SAF to deliver benefits beyond emissions reductions, such as improved energy security and rural economic development, particularly in emerging economies with large agricultural sectors. She also emphasises the critical role of collaboration across the aviation industry, governments, and civil society to build a thriving SAF ecosystem.

If you LOVED this episode you’ll also love the conversation we had with IATA’s SVP Sustainability & Chief Economist Marie Owens Thomsen. Check it out here.

Learn more about the innovators who are navigating the industry’s challenges to make sustainable aviation a reality, in our new book ‘Sustainability in the Air’. Click here to learn more.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.

Links & More:

Our Commitment to Fly Net Zero by 2050 - IATA 

SAF Offtake Agreements - ICAO  

SAF Deployment - IATA  

Net Zero Roadmaps - IATA 

Domestic air passenger traffic likely touched 15.4 crore in 2023-24: Report - The Economic Times

How IATA envisions merging economics and sustainability in aviation - SimpliFlying 

13 Jun 2024LanzaJet plans to produce 1 billion gallons of SAF by 203001:08:09

In this episode, we talk to Jimmy Samartzis, CEO of LanzaJet, who shares the company’s journey in developing the world’s first proven alcohol-to-jet (ATJ) technology that converts ethanol into sustainable aviation fuel (SAF) and renewable diesel. 

Samartzis discusses LanzaJet’s ambitious target of producing 1 billion gallons of SAF by 2030. Elaborating on LanzaJet’s highly efficient and capital-light ATJ technology, he explains how it can produce up to 90% of fuels as SAF and the remaining 10% as renewable diesel. The process is also adaptable to various feedstocks, including waste materials, allowing LanzaJet to leverage local, sustainable inputs, and cater to the needs and resources of different countries.

Samartzis emphasises the importance of collaborations with airline investors and partners like British Airways and Southwest Airlines in driving the adoption of SAF. He also discusses the environmental benefits of LanzaJet’s technology and SAF, which include the elimination of sulphur, reduction in particulate matter, and potentially lower contrail formation.

If you LOVED this episode you’ll also love the conversation we had with World Energy’s President & CEO Gene Gebolys who delves into the intricacies and future of SAF. Check it out here.

Learn more about the innovators who are navigating the industry’s challenges to make sustainable aviation a reality, in our new book ‘Sustainability in the Air’. Click here to learn more.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.


Links & More:

Sustainable Fuels - LanzaJet

Cleaner skies ahead? A glimmer of hope for airline industry’s clean fuel challenge - The Economic Times

LanzaJet unveils world’s first ethanol-to-sustainable jet fuel plant in Georgia - Bloomberg

British Airways, Nova Pangaea, LanzaJet project wins UK funding - Biomass Magazine 

How World Energy is shaping the future of sustainable aviation fuel - SimpliFlying 


20 Jun 2024How Kenya Airways plans to unleash the country’s untapped SAF potential00:48:46
In this episode, we talk to Grace Vihenda, Senior Manager, Innovation and Sustainability at Kenya Airways, who shares the airline’s efforts to promote sustainable aviation in Africa, a continent with abundant resources for sustainable aviation fuel (SAF) production but limited infrastructure and investment.

In 2023, Kenya Airways became the first African airline to use SAF for an intercontinental long-haul flight. The flight was conducted as a part of SkyTeam’s Sustainable Flight Challenge, despite the challenges posed by the lack of a SAF policy framework in the country and the need to purchase the fuel from overseas at a significantly higher cost. The flight has been instrumental in helping chart the course for supportive policy action and the need to set up local SAF production. Vihenda discusses Kenya Airways’ plans to scale up local production, with testing and certification planned for 2024, and eventual commercialisation for broader use.

Vihenda also elaborates on Kenya Airways’ innovative sustainability initiatives, such as partnering with a startup to produce cleaner diesel from waste plastic, implementing 100% recycling of food waste during in-flight meal preparation, and developing upcycled products from aircraft parts. She also emphasises the importance of collaboration and knowledge-sharing among airlines to advance sustainability goals.

As a side note, AviaDev Africa Conference, a crucial platform for improving air travel connections across Africa, is taking place from June 19-21, 2024 in Windhoek, Namibia. Learn more about AviaDev here.

If you LOVED this episode you’ll also love the conversation we had with SkyTeam Alliance’s CEO Patrick Roux who outlines the alliance’s role in enabling airlines’ net zero journey. Check it out here.

Learn more about the innovators who are navigating the industry’s challenges to make sustainable aviation a reality, in our new book ‘Sustainability in the Air’. Click here to learn more.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.

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27 Jun 2024Akshat Rathi explains why ‘hard to decarbonise’ is a myth in aviation00:50:44

In this episode, we talk to Akshat Rathi, award-winning senior climate reporter for Bloomberg News. Rathi is the host of Bloomberg’s podcast Zero that explores the policies, tactics and clean technologies pushing for a zero emissions future. He is also the author of the book Climate Capitalism, which tracks the unlikely heroes driving the fight against climate change.

Rathi argues that for years the aviation industry has sheltered behind the label of being “hard to decarbonise”, which is not only a misconception, but has also stalled the industry’s progress towards net zero emissions. He advocates for correctly pricing flights to account for their true environmental cost, a move that could bring an end to “ridiculously” cheap flight tickets.

Rathi also discusses the potential of sustainable aviation fuels (SAF) in decarbonising aviation and the need to overcome cost barriers through policy support and corporate commitment. Further, he delves into the role of electric aviation in transforming short-haul travel and regional aviation.

In Rathi’s view, the aviation industry stands at a crossroads, and the choices made now will determine not just the future of flying, but our ability to meet global climate targets. As he puts it, “We have to start to think about those technologies, because we do need decarbonised solutions.”

If you LOVED this episode you’ll also love the conversation we had with Dan Rutherford, Senior Director of Research at the International Council on Clean Transportation (ICCT), who shares the latest developments, partnerships, and challenges in reducing aviation emissions and achieving net zero by 2050. Check it out here.

Learn more about the innovators who are navigating the industry’s challenges to make sustainable aviation a reality, in our new book ‘Sustainability in the Air’. Click here to learn more.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.


Links & More:

Zero - Bloomberg

The Airline Industry’s Biggest Climate Challenge: A Lack of Clean Fuel - Bloomberg 

‘Magical thinking’: hopes for sustainable jet fuel not realistic, report finds - The Guardian 

How to rethink tourism and aviation for a greener future - SimpliFlying


04 Jul 2024Is demand management the only realistic route to decarbonising aviation?01:08:54

In this episode, we talk to Ali Warrington, Senior Campaigner at Possible, a UK-based climate charity that enables people to take practical action on climate change. 

Possible has been at the forefront of climate action and has been instrumental in lodging formal complaints against airlines like Virgin Atlantic and British Airways for their greenwashing claims. The charity, along with other climate groups has also taken the  UK government to court over its Jet Zero strategy.

Warrington believes that the aviation industry’s current approach to sustainability is dramatically insufficient. She points out the limitations of the current decarbonisation solutions – including sustainable aviation fuels (SAF), hydrogen, and electric aircraft – and expresses scepticism about their scalability and effectiveness. She also expresses concern about the enormity of resources, both natural and monetary, that would be needed to make these solutions a reality. Ultimately, Warrington states, demand reduction is the only pragmatic way to cut aviation’s share of emissions.

Warrington also points out the inequality in air travel in the UK – just 15% of people take 70% of flights annually, with half the population not taking any flights at all. She supports the idea of a frequent flyer levy, to progressively tax individuals on the number of flights they take. She also emphasises the need for a systemic change in global travel infrastructure, and advocates for a shift towards train travel or other low-carbon transportation options, whenever possible. 

If you LOVED this episode, you’ll also love the conversation we had with Hiske Arts, Campaigner at Fossil Free Netherlands (Fossielvrij NL), who discusses the climate activists’ scepticism about the aviation industry’s commitment to addressing climate concerns. Check it out here

Learn more about the innovators who are navigating the industry’s challenges to make sustainable aviation a reality, in our new book ‘Sustainability in the Air’. Click here to learn more.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.


Links & More:

Possible - Inspiring climate action

Our formal complaint against airline greenwash - Possible 

Climate groups taking government to court over “dangerous” aviation strategy - Possible 

Net zero aviation fuels: resource requirements and environmental impacts - Royal Society 

Can climate activists and the aviation industry ever get along? - SimpliFlying 

11 Jul 2024How Boeing’s ‘SAF&’ strategy is laying the foundation for sustainable flying00:56:31

In this episode, we talk to Brian Moran, Chief Sustainability Officer at Boeing, who shares the company’s multifaceted approach to decarbonising the aviation industry, focusing on sustainable aviation fuel (SAF), innovative technologies, and the importance of regaining trust in the wake of its recent crisis.

Moran discusses Boeing’s Cascade model, an open-source dynamic data modelling tool developed in partnership with MIT, Cambridge, IATA, and NASA, which helps stakeholders make informed decisions about the relative impact of different decarbonisation strategies. He also delves into Boeing’s role in advancing SAF, from de-risking the technology through test flights and research to committing to delivering 100% SAF-compatible aircraft by 2030.

Further, Moran highlights Boeing’s investments in future technologies, such as the electric propulsion flight demonstrator (EPFD) project with NASA and GE Aerospace, and the X-66 demonstrator aircraft featuring a transonic truss-braced wing. He also discusses the company’s involvement in the eVTOL space through their wholly-owned subsidiary Wisk, and how the lessons learned from this venture can be applied to the larger Boeing ecosystem. Moran also acknowledges the challenges Boeing has faced in recent years and emphasises the interconnectedness of safety and sustainability. He views Boeing’s current situation as an opportunity for open, transparent dialogue about the company’s shortcomings and remedial actions.

If you LOVED this episode, you’ll also love the conversation we had with Sheila Remes, Boeing’s VP of Environmental Sustainability, who shares how the airframer is collaborating with industry stakeholders to move aviation towards its 2050 net zero goal. Check it out here

Learn more about the innovators who are navigating the industry’s challenges to make sustainable aviation a reality, in our new book ‘Sustainability in the Air’. Click here to learn more.
Feel free to reach out via email to
podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.

Links & More:
Sustainability - Boeing
At Boeing, it’s a battle to win back airlines’ trust - Times of India
Boeing makes its largest purchase of blended sustainable aviation fuel - Boeing
Electric Skies: Boeing joins GE and NASA’s hybrid electric flight project - GE Aerospace News
Virgin Atlantic jet lands after maiden transatlantic flight on low-carbon fuel - Reuters
How Boeing has been working on a net zero future for over a decade - SimpliFlying 

18 Jul 2024How FLIGHTKEYS promises major climate gains at a minimal cost00:57:37

In this episode, we talk to Alejandra Martín Frías, Head of Sustainability Research at FLIGHTKEYS, who shares insights into the company’s research on contrail avoidance and its potential impact on aviation sustainability.

Condensation trails, also known as contrails, are long, thin clouds that often form behind an aircraft in cold and humid conditions when water vapour freezes around small dust and soot particles from the engine. Although they look harmless, contrails are made up of small ice crystals that trap heat in the earth’s atmosphere and contribute to global warming. 

Frías delves into the complexities of contrail formation and its impact on climate, highlighting that non-CO2 emissions from aviation may be as significant as CO2 emissions in terms of climate impact. She explains the challenges of implementing contrail avoidance strategies, including weather unpredictability, operational complexities, and the industry’s hesitance to participate in non-CO2 emissions monitoring.

Recently, FLIGHTKEYS was part of a study that simulated contrail avoidance for about 85,000 flights. The study, published in February 2024, analysed two weeks of American Airlines flights in June, and two weeks in January. Frías shares that the study demonstrated significant reductions in contrail energy forcing (up to 73%) with minimal increases in fuel consumption and overall costs (less than 0.11%!).

If you LOVED this episode, you’ll also love the conversation we had with Adam Durant, Founder & CEO of SATAVIA, who shares  the groundbreaking work being done in the field of contrail reduction and its implications for the environment. Check it out here

Learn more about the innovators who are navigating the industry’s challenges to make sustainable aviation a reality, in our new book ‘Sustainability in the Air’. Click here to learn more.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.


Links & More:

FLIGHTKEYS 

Feasibility of contrail avoidance in a commercial flight planning system: an operational analysis - IOPscience 

Airlines divide over new EU rules on monitoring and reporting of their non-CO2 emissions - GreenAir News 

SATAVIA wants to solve a majorly ignored aspect of aviation’s climate impact - SimpliFlying 


25 Jul 2024How Jet Zero Australia plans to turn surplus ethanol into SAF00:47:41

In this episode, we talk to Ed Mason, Founder & CEO of Jet Zero Australia, who shares insights into the company’s ambitious projects to produce sustainable aviation fuel (SAF) at a commercial scale. 

Jet Zero Australia is an Australian bioenergy company that aims to develop the country’s first Alcohol-to-Jet (ATJ) facility for SAF production, using surplus ethanol from agricultural and sugarcane byproducts. Mason discusses Jet Zero Australia’s two upcoming projects: Project Ulysses and Project Mandala, which aim to establish Australia as a major player in the SAF market. Project Ulysses will use LanzaJet’s ATJ technology, to convert bioethanol into SAF and renewable diesel. 

Mason provides insights into the strategic choice of Townsville as the location for Project Ulysses, citing factors such as renewable energy availability, proximity to feedstock, and supportive local infrastructure. He also discusses the challenges and opportunities in SAF distribution and the role of the book and claim system in expanding the reach of SAF benefits. Mason also highlights the critical role of partnerships in the SAF industry, with Jet Zero Australia collaborating with major players like Qantas, Airbus, Idemitsu and the Queensland Government. 

Delving into the economic impact of SAF production, Mason highlights the industry’s potential for job creation and emphasises the need for continued innovation and collaboration to achieve sustainable aviation goals.

If you LOVED this episode, you’ll also love the conversation we had with Jimmy Samartzis, CEO of LanzaJet, who shares the company’s journey in developing the world’s first proven ATJ technology that converts ethanol into SAF and renewable diesel. Check it out here

Learn more about the innovators who are navigating the industry’s challenges to make sustainable aviation a reality, in our new book ‘Sustainability in the Air’. Click here to learn more.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.


Links & More:

Jet Zero Australia 

Project Ulysses - Jet Zero Australia

LanzaJet and Jet Zero agree to develop Australia’s first ethanol-to-SAF plant - GreenAir News  

Idemitsu, Qantas and Airbus back Australia biofuel refiner with $25.5 million - The Straits Times 

LanzaJet plans to produce 1 billion gallons of SAF by 2030 - SimpliFlying 

01 Aug 2024How Urban-Air Port is revolutionising infrastructure for advanced air mobility00:55:36

In this episode, we talk to Ricky Sandhu, Founder and Executive Chairman of Urban-Air Port, who shares insights into the company's groundbreaking vertiport technology and vision for the future of urban air mobility (AAM).

Urban-Air Port is at the forefront of AAM infrastructure, with their main product Air-One being the world's first fully-operational and off-grid hub for electric vertical take-off and landing (eVTOL) aircraft. Sandhu discusses Urban-Air Port's mission to enable a new era of advanced air mobility through designing, developing, fabricating, and operating innovative airport infrastructure.

Delving into the economic and environmental impacts, Sandhu highlights the potential for increased productivity and reduced carbon emissions through urban air mobility. He discusses Urban-Air Port's partnerships with major players like Supernal and LG Electronics.

Sandhu also addresses the challenges and opportunities in vertiport development, including the need for public acceptance and regulatory approval. He shares his vision of urban airports becoming as ubiquitous as gas stations, facilitating a new era of urban transportation. Looking to the future, Sandhu discusses the potential for vertiports to integrate with existing transportation networks and their role in promoting sustainable and efficient urban mobility.

If you LOVED this episode, you’ll also love the conversation we had with Daniel Wiegand, Co-Founder & Chief Engineer for Innovation and Future Programmes at Lilium, who shares Lilium’s vision to revolutionise regional air mobility by building the world’s first electric vertical take-off and landing (eVTOL) jet.
Check it out here.
Learn more about the innovators who are navigating the industry’s challenges to make sustainable aviation a reality, in our new book ‘Sustainability in the Air’.
Click here to learn more.
Feel free to reach out via email to
podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.

Links & More:

Urban-Air Port
Urban-Air Port joins forces with NACO, accelerating vertiport integration into airports globally. - Vertical Mag
LG Electronics and Urban-Air Port team up - Airports International
Urban-Air Port Founder Touts Benefits Of ‘Vertical Airfield’ - Aviation Week Network
World-first electric Urban Air Port® secures UK government backing - Hyundai
World’s first airport for flying cars and drones opens in UK - World Economic Forum
How the Lilium Jet will open up new frontiers for eVTOLs - SimpliFlying 

08 Aug 2024How Hawaiian Airlines' approach to sustainability goes beyond environmental concerns00:48:05

In this episode, we talk to Alanna James, Managing Director Sustainability Initiatives at Hawaiian Airlines, who shares insights into the airline's distinctive approach to sustainability and the challenges of operating in an island environment.

Hawaiian Airlines, a 94-year-old company headquartered in Honolulu, faces unique sustainability challenges due to Hawaii's geographic isolation and vulnerability to climate change. James discusses:

  1. The airline's deep connection to Hawaii and how it informs their approach to sustainability, which goes beyond environmental concerns to include economic and cultural sustainability.
  2. The critical role of air travel in Hawaii, serving as an essential "highway system" for inter-island connectivity and supporting the state's tourism-based economy.
  3. Hawaiian Airlines' roadmap to achieve net zero carbon emissions by 2050, including fleet renewal, operational efficiencies, next-generation aircraft, and sustainable aviation fuel (SAF).
  4. The airline's ambitious goal to use 10% SAF by 2030 and the strategies they're employing to achieve this, including partnerships with SAF suppliers and efforts to develop local SAF production in Hawaii.
  5. Exploration of innovative technologies like electric sea gliders for inter-island travel and the potential role of hydrogen-powered aircraft in the future.

Throughout the conversation, James emphasises the delicate balance Hawaiian Airlines must strike between maintaining essential air connectivity and preserving Hawaii's natural beauty and resources. 

If you LOVED this episode, you’ll also love the conversation we had with Diana Birkett Rakow, Senior Vice President of Public Affairs & Sustainability at Alaska Airlines, who shares how the airline is planning to achieve net zero emissions by 2040. Check it out here

Learn more about the innovators who are navigating the industry’s challenges to make sustainable aviation a reality, in our new book ‘Sustainability in the Air’. Click here to learn more.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.

Links & More:

Environmental Stewardship - Hawaiian Airlines
Hawaii Renewable Fuels Coalition
Hawaiian Airlines invests in Regent seagliders - ch-aviation
Hawaiian Airlines Commits to New Milestones on Path to Net-Zero Carbon Emissions - Hawaiian Airlines
Alaska Airlines and Hawaiian Airlines to Combine, Expanding Benefits and Choice for Travelers Throughout Hawai‘i and the West Coast
Alaska Airlines’ multi-faceted approach to achieving net zero by 2040 - SimpliFlying 

15 Aug 2024Why Transport & Environment believes aviation’s carbon bill is long overdue00:50:39

In this episode, we talk to Matt Finch, UK Policy Manager at Transport & Environment (T&E), who shares insights into the challenges and opportunities in sustainable aviation.

Finch discusses T&E's role as Europe's leading advocate for clean transport and provides a critical perspective on current efforts to decarbonise the aviation industry. He highlights several key issues:

  1. The lack of fuel duty on aviation fuel, which Finch argues artificially suppresses the cost of air travel and hinders the transition to more sustainable alternatives.
  2. The UK's Sustainable Aviation Fuel (SAF) mandate, its strengths and weaknesses, and the challenges in scaling up SAF production.
  3. The potential of alternative technologies such as hydrogen and electric aircraft, and the need for stronger government support to accelerate their development and adoption.
  4. The environmental impact of airport expansion and the need for more stringent conditions on growth.
  5. The importance of addressing non-CO2 impacts of aviation, which Finch says account for two-thirds of the sector's overall climate impact.

Throughout the conversation, Finch advocates for more ambitious policies and actions to address aviation's environmental impact, while remaining cautiously optimistic about the potential for progress in the sector.

If you LOVED this episode, you’ll also love the conversation we had with Hiske Arts, Campaigner at Fossil Free Netherlands (Fossielvrij NL), who explains why climate activists don’t buy the aviation industry’s commitment to addressing climate concerns. Check it out here

Learn more about the innovators who are navigating the industry’s challenges to make sustainable aviation a reality, in our new book ‘Sustainability in the Air’. Click here to learn more.

Feel free to reach out via email to podcast@simpliflying.com. For more content on sustainable aviation, visit our website green.simpliflying.com and join the movement. It’s about time.


Links & More:

Aviation - T&E

Roadmap to climate neutral aviation in Europe - T&E  

UK to implement SAF mandate beginning in 2025 - Biomass Magazine 

The current state of scientific understanding of the non-CO2 effects of aviation on climate - David Lee 

The ICCT’s bitter but essential prescription for net zero emissions by 2050 - SimpliFlying 

➡️ Can climate activists and the aviation industry ever get along? - SimpliFlying 

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