Spin Rate: A show about the Toronto Blue Jays (The Athletic)

Drew and Kaitlyn take a peek behind the curtain at Kevin Gausman's nearly-unblemished start to his Blue Jays career. The pair discuss his sequencing, location, stats, and more. Kaitlyn weighs in on Toronto's close wins this season, and she and Drew hone in on the Bluebirds' RISP shortcomings. Plus, a look ahead to the Yankees series. Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Kaitlyn on Twitter: @kaitlyncmcgrath Subscribe to The Athletic for just $1/month for 6 months by visiting: theathletic.com/spinrate Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Alek Manoah posts another great start against the Yankees keeping his ERA under 1.50 so far this season. Can he keep this up for a full season? Are there positives to take out of a bad loss to New York? The Jays are struggling to hit with runners in scoring position, is it reason for concern. And Alejandro Kirk’s proving his value behind the plate early in the season. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

30 games into the 2022 MLB regular season, the Blue Jays boast a 17-13 record. Drew and Kaitlyn ponder what we can make of this Toronto team through nearly the first fifth of the year. How does the offense stack up to 2021's production so far? Plus, what areas of this club can we nitpick, and Kaitlyn shares her story about a Blue Jays fan who made a young Yankees fan's day. Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Kaitlyn on Twitter: @kaitlyncmcgrath Subscribe to The Athletic for just $1/month for 6 months by visiting: theathletic.com/spinrate Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Toronto has had an inauspicious run as of late. Drew and Ricky dive into the rough patch the Bluebirds are facing, and discuss how a spell, like this, can snowball. Vladdy's frustration manifested in a bat-splintering crack; should the team's level of annoyance be where it is now considering we're 30-some games into the season? Plus, Kirk's consistent bat and Kikuchi's adjustments are helping the squad. Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Ricky on Twitter: @Ricky_Ro24 Subscribe to The Athletic for just $1/month for 6 months by visiting: theathletic.com/spinrate Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Questions continue to hang around the Jays' offense like a hat on a rack. Drew and Kaitlyn seek the facts about the Bluebirds' bats and try to separate the noise from the truth. Staying with the theme of offense, Danny Jansen has been swinging at a high level. Plus, we glimpsed promise in Hyun-Jin Ryu's return. Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Kaitlyn on Twitter: @kaitlyncmcgrath Subscribe to The Athletic for just $1/month for 6 months by visiting: theathletic.com/spinrate Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Is it time we recalibrate our expectations for this Blue Jays club? Drew and Ricky meditate and respond to that question as well as discussing Vlad Jr. piecing together one of the "quietest" hitting streaks to date. Plus, Yusei Kikuchi's perseverance and boldness is paying dividends. Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Ricky on Twitter: @Ricky_Ro24 Subscribe to The Athletic for just $1/month for 6 months by visiting: theathletic.com/spinrate Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Is it time Toronto makes wholesale changes to its roster in an attempt to shed its disappointing start? Drew and Kaitlyn don't think so. The pair reason with fans' criticism of this club and reframe our state of mind to remind everyone that it's just the tail end of May. Some areas of the Blue Jays are more challenging to explain away than others, the bullpen needs more help, especially with Tim Mayza out. Who can the Bluebirds turn to, to reinforce its pen? Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Kaitlyn on Twitter: @kaitlyncmcgrath Subscribe to The Athletic for just $1/month for 6 months by visiting: theathletic.com/spinrate Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Will Danny Jansen be remembered as the catalyst for a hot-hitting Jays team if their offense turns the corner and remains consistent? Drew and Ricky discuss the "Danny Jansen Game" and its potential season-wide implications. Are the Jays too right-handed? The guys dig into that topic, including if one Mr. Joey Votto could be the answer. Kaitlyn then joins the squad as the trio talk about Kevin Gausman and his ranking among American League pitchers. To wrap up, the triumvirate chat swing and miss relievers who could fit the billing for Toronto and they look ahead to the Angels series. Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Kaitlyn on Twitter: @kaitlyncmcgrath Follow Ricky on Twitter: @Ricky_Ro24 Subscribe to The Athletic for just $1/month for 6 months by visiting: theathletic.com/spinrate Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Jays earned their first series sweep of the 2022 season. Drew and Kaitlyn, armed with their brooms, react to Toronto's four-game slate versus the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim. The pair discuss the offense and its parts, namely Lourdes Gurriel and Alejandro Kirk, that surprised us. Jose Berrios logged his second-straight unchancy start. Is he destined for a "rehab" stint to reconnect with his stuff? Plus, Charlie Montoyo's "adventures" involved Julian Merryweather, who isn't at his best. Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Kaitlyn on Twitter: @kaitlyncmcgrath Subscribe to The Athletic for just $1/month for 6 months by visiting: theathletic.com/spinrate Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

With seven consecutive wins under their belt, the Blue Jays are rolling. Drew and Ricky chat about the win streak, and Vladdy, Jansen, and others' contributions, including el Capitán - Alejandro Kirk. Is Kirk more valuable on the Jays' roster, or as a trade piece to land a bigger fish? Plus, Matt Chapman is on the brink of a breakthrough, and the club's upcoming series could help pad the win column. Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Ricky on Twitter: @Ricky_Ro24 Subscribe to The Athletic for just $1/month for 6 months by visiting: theathletic.com/spinrate Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Although the Twins took two versus the Jays, Toronto is still a hot team. Drew, Kaitlyn, and Ricky react to the three-game series in Minnesota, including José Berríos' K-fest, and Kevin Gausman's forgettable start. Plus, the Jays are pulling the ball more and it's to their benefit. Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Kaitlyn on Twitter: @kaitlyncmcgrath Follow Ricky on Twitter: @Ricky_Ro24 Subscribe to The Athletic for just $1/month for 6 months by visiting: theathletic.com/spinrate Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Keegan Matheson, MLB.com's Blue Jays reporter, joins Drew and Kaitlyn to discuss the promotion of Toronto's top prospect, Gabriel Moreno. What can we expect from Moreno? How does his addition factor into the other faces behind the plate for TO? Plus, who are some trade deadline candidates for the Jays? Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Kaitlyn on Twitter: @kaitlyncmcgrath Follow Keegan on Twitter: @KeeganMatheson Subscribe to The Athletic for just $1/month for 6 months by visiting: theahtletic.com/spinrate Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Gabriel Moreno made his major league debut as Toronto took two of three versus Detroit. Drew and Kaitlyn analyze Moreno's first big-league series, including his presence behind the plate and interactions with Kevin Gausman. Ross Stripling may anchor down the fifth starter role for the rest of the year at this rate, and, in contrast, the bullpen, though improving, still needs help. Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Kaitlyn on Twitter: @kaitlyncmcgrath Subscribe to The Athletic by visiting: theathletic.com/spinrate Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Toronto will be without Hyun-jin Ryu for quite a while as he undergoes surgery on his elbow. Drew and Ricky explores the ripple effects of Ryu's injury, including Ross Stripling's role, Yusei Kikuchi's path forward, and possible trade deadline targets, which may or may not cover a tw-way star in Anaheim. Ricky shares his impressions of Gabriel Moreno before the guys endure a convo about the dreaded Yanks. Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Ricky on Twitter: @Ricky_Ro24 Subscribe to The Athletic for just $1/month for 6 months by visiting: theathletic.com/spinrate Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Is it accurate to say the Blue Jays just aren't up to the Yankees' level of play this season, or is Toronto's current state more nuanced than that? Drew and Kaitlyn recap the Jays-Yankees series and examine the most glaring differences between the two clubs. The pair then run down the list of injured Blue Jays. Is it fair to say Hyun-jin Ryu's time in Toronto is over? What's next for Nate Pearson? Though the Chicago White Sox are falling short of expectations this season, the Jays' shouldn't overlook them. Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Kaitlyn on Twitter: @kaitlyncmcgrath Subscribe to The Athletic for just $1/month for 6 months by visiting: theathletic.com/spinrate Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Jays fall victim to yet another pitching implosion episode; however, hitting coach Guillermo Martínez may have spurred Toronto to a series finale win over the White Sox after being ejected prior to the game's start. Drew and Ricky recap a scuffling Blue Jays' trip to Chicago but focus on the positives from the final game. Is moving Yusei Kikuchi to the bullpen a way to remedy the club's pitching issues? What about acquiring Sergio Romo? The pair look ahead to the Brewers series before closing shop. Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Ricky on Twitter: @Ricky_Ro24 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What was considered a position of strength at the start of 2022 for the Blue Jays has devolved into a possible weakness. Jose Berrios, Yusei Kikuchi, and the Blue Jays starting rotation need triage support. Drew and Kaitlyn prioritize Toronto's pitching problems and offer up possible solutions. Toronto will square off against the Red Sox and Rays in a stretch versus intradivisional foes. How important is this string of games for the Jays? Plus, Captain Kirk to the moon. Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Kaitlyn on Twitter: @kaitlyncmcgrath Subscribe to The Athletic for just $1/month for 6 months by visiting: theathletic.com/spinrate Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Toronto has scored a pair of critical wins over the Red Sox, and Drew and Ricky breakdown all the action from the couplet of victories. Vladdy called 'game' in his walk-off hit on Tuesday night. How vital has he been for the Jays in June? In Drew's Ohtani dreamland, could he flock to the Bluebirds in a deal that includes Alejandro Kirk? Who would you rather have? Plus, the Trent Thornton decision, Drew Pearson's setback, and the addition of Sergio Romo. Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Ricky on Twitter: @Ricky_Ro24 Subscribe to The Athletic for $1/month for 6 months by visiting: theathletic.com/spinrate Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In episode two of the Future of Sports series, The Athletic's Mike Smeltz looks at how the team experience may change in the future: increased use of technology in gameplay, robotic umpires and the unique initiatives of a startup sports league. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A first in the short history of Spin Rate, a guest joins the show! Fan590 host and Toronto Blue Jays radio producer Josh Goldberg joins Drew and Kaitlyn to unravel one of the biggest questions in Spring Training, will Vladimir Guerrero Jr. play a majority of the time at first base? Why would he? What benefit does it provide to him and the team? Are there better options at 3B? How can the Jays balance placating their young core and putting themselves in a position to win games? Drew and Kaitlyn then discuss the trash can in the room; will George Springers' past affect his tenure in Toronto? Lastly, what in the world was Kevin Mather doing? Rundown: (7:30) Josh Goldberg joins the pod (15:30) Are there better options at 3B (36:15) Springers' past a problem? (53:00) Who will hit leadoff? (1:01:45) Kevin Mather-Mariners debacle Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Kaitlyn on Twitter: @kaitlyncmcgrath Follow Josh Goldberg on Twitter: @JGoldberg12 Join The Athletic for just $3.99 a month! Visit: theathletic.com/spinrate Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Do you hear that? It's the sound of a world without Jays' radio broadcasts. Drew and Kaitlyn discuss Toronto eliminating its radio broadcasts and, instead, deciding to simulcast its television broadcast (3:00). Why is the organization doing this and how will this affect your listening experience? Is not having a radio broadcast detrimental to the team? The Athletic's Philadelphia Phillies scrivener Matt Gelb joins Drew and Kaitlyn to wax poetic about Dunedin, the golden capital of Toronto (20:30). Will homers be a regular occurance in TD Ballpark? Matt shares his experience in Florida at Phillies' Spring Training and describes the camp's atmosphere (28:00). The trio also dives into Philadelphia's off-season and its farm system before Kaitlyn serves a cold dish of Oldtakesexposed to Matt (33:00). Afterward, Kaitlyn colors Toronto's approach to player and pitching development and how it's impacted arms like Robbie Ray (52:30). Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Kaitlyn on Twitter: @kaitlyncmcgrath Follow Matt Gelb on Twitter: @MattGelb Join The Athletic for just $3.99 a month! Visit: theathletic.com/spinrate Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Drew and Kaitlyn welcome senior baseball writer for The Athletic, Keith Law, to the show! Keith shares his approach to scouting and writing about prospects in the era of Covid (4:00). What's Keith's stance on evaluating info he receives from scouts, execs, etc. he has a sturdy, existing relationship with compared to ones' he doesn't (11:00)? Kaitlyn is given a lesson in Organization 101 by Keith (14:30--jury's still out if she learned anything). The gaggle of podcasters then turn their attention towards Jays' prospects, including Gabriel Moreno (19:00), Austin Martin (22:45), and Alejandro Kirk as well as the farm system as a whole (28:00). Next, Drew and Kaitlyn discuss the Mickey Callaway controversy and Ross Atkins' "failure" to recognize Callaway's behavior while both were a part of the Indians' organization (40:00). The two end the show looking at Spring Training headlines (53:00). Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Kaitlyn on Twitter: @kaitlyncmcgrath Follow Keith Law on Twitter: @keithlaw Join The Athletic for just $3.99 a month! Visit: theathletic.com/spinrate Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Join The Athletic for just $3.99 a month! Visit: theathletic.com/spinrate Yes! More Spring Training storylines! Drew and Kaitlyn dish on what's going on behind the Jays' dish, is Alejandro Kirk or Reese McGuire the best option at catcher (3:00)? Do we believe in Rowdy Tellez (18:30)? What do his stats indicate? Is this Vlad's year (28:30)? Are we about to see all his skills come together in '21? His K-rate and BB-rate suggest he's headed towards better years. Lastly, the duo discuss the pitching staff's injury bug, and who's left in the open market to help fortify the rotation (43:00). Plus, prayers out to those affected by the Atlanta shootings and the AAPI community (1:08:30). Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Kaitlyn on Twitter: @kaitlyncmcgrath Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Join The Athletic for just $1 a month! Visit: theathletic.com/spinrate The Blue Jays are chirping the 'Bubblewrap Blues' as key figures to the club's 2021 aspirations are sidelined with injuries. Drew and Kaitlyn recap the spell of dings and bruises the Blue Birds experienced, including Kirby Yates season-ending elbow wound (2:30), and how his absence will affect the bullpen; George Springer's oblique strain and his prognosis (23:45), and Robbie Ray's baby-carrying, stair-falling pain (29:30). How concerning are these injuries? Will they bleed into the regular season? Kaitlyn discusses her 1-on-1 interview with Mark Shapiro and the conversations she had with the team's president, including the state of team vaccinations; optimism in a return to playing in Toronto, and Vlad Jr.'s impending free agency (41:30). Lastly, the prescient podcasting duo predicts Toronto's roster (59:00). Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Kaitlyn on Twitter: @kaitlyncmcgrath Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Join The Athletic for just $1 a month! Visit; theathletic.com/spinrate It's here! It's finally here! Opening Day! Drew and Kaitlyn lay out a full spread of Blue Jays info and insight ahead of their season opener. The two begin with big picture expectations (1:30), including who do we have questions about, who will exceed expectations, and what's this team's ceiling, floor? The duo examines the composition of the 26-man roster (22:00). Who was a surprising omit from the OD roster? What's the latest on Springer, Ray, and the rest of the injured Jays? The Athletic's Yankees scribe Lindsey Adler hops on the pod to share the describe the energy of this year's squad (34:00). What question marks loom over the pinstripes? The trio look at DJ LeMahieu impact as well as Zack Britton's absence. Plus, hitting coach Marcus Thames influence on the club, and Toronto's attempt at emulating the Yanks. Lastly, Drew and Kaitlyn cover Kaitlyn's team predictions for 2021, and predict this year's outcome (1:00:00). Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Kaitlyn on Twitter: @kaitlyncmcgrath Follow Lindsey Adler on Twitter: @lindseyadler Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hey all, welcome back to a special edition of Spin Rate! Kaitlyn and The Athletic's senior writer Stephen Nesbitt answer subscriber questions about the Blue Jays in The Athletic app. Who will be Toronto's top FA target once the lockout ends? What's the plan for Nate Pearson? And even Drew joins the Q&A to ask about the best method of building the club into a contender...though we certainly wish he would have shared news about Pancakes, his adorable pup. Follow Kaitlyn on Twitter: @kaitlyncmcgrath Follow Stephen on Twitter: @stephenjnesbitt Get more adorable pup content by following Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Kaitlyn, the Blue Jays, and Spin Rate in The Athletic app to join us the next time we host a live Q&A! Save 33% on a subscription to The Athletic by visiting: theathletic.com/spinrate Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We're back! (And glad to be back at that!) Drew and Kaitlyn return in a catch-up edition of Spin Rate, where the duo inspect how the lockout may be affecting Toronto's season. After judging how the labor strike is impacting player development, Dunedin's finances, and more, the pair list the Jays' post-lockout priorities. Which free agent could assume third base duties? Who will fill the void left behind by Marcus Semien? How important is it that Toronto continues to bolster its bullpen? Before wrapping up, Juan Soto reportedly turned down a $300M+ contract from the Nationals. Are Soto and Vlad Jr.'s skills comparable, if so, does that mean Vlad stands to earn that type of money? Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Kaitlyn on Twitter: @kaitlyncmcgrath Subscribe to The Athletic for $1/month for 6 months by visiting: theathletic.com/spinrate Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Athletic's senior baseball writer and prospect guru Keith Law jumps on the podcast with Drew and Kaitlyn to discuss Toronto's farm system. The crew chats about how the Blue Jays are one of the best, if not the best, evaluators of international talent in the Majors. Of the talent the organization has identified, who should fans keep the closest eye on? Getting more granular; Keith shares his thoughts on Kevin Smith, Gabriel Moreno, Jordan Groshans, and more. After parting with Keith, Drew and Kaitlyn converse about canceled games how they could impact the Blue Jays. Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Kaitlyn on Twitter: @kaitlynmcgrath Follow Keith on Twitter: @keithlaw Subscribe to The Athletic for just $1/month for 6 months by visiting: theathletic.com/spinrate Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Baseball is back! And so it has been for nearly a week, nevertheless, Drew and Kaitlyn are ecstatic about delivering Spin Rate to you, in all of its splendor, with actual baseball to play. A torrent of transactions have transpired over the last 48-72 hours, some involving the Jays. One, in particular, is Toronto's deal with the Oakland A's to land 3B, Matt Chapman. What does Chapman do for the Jays' at third base? Who all did the organization trade in order to land Chapman? The pair then kibbitz about the Jays adding to their rotation with the addition of Yusei Kikuchi. Kaitlyn offers her observations from Spring Training, and the duo briefly discusses if the Jays are AL's pound-for-pound best team. Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Kaitlyn on Twitter: @kaitlyncmcgrath Subscribe to The Athletic for just $1/month for 6 months by visiting: theathletic.com/spinrate Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Of course, as soon as we published last week's podcast, the Randal Grichuk trade was announced. Fingers crossed we don't release a podcast just before another acquisition by the Jays. But that's where Drew and Kaitlyn begin today's show, serving up their thoughts on the Randal Grichuk-Raimel Tapia exchange. Why did Toronto trade for Tapia? What role will he have with the team? While focusing on specific players, the duo cogitates on if Greg Bird will make the Jays' roster. Who will be the club's Opening Day starter? Plus, what is Charlie Montoyo's future with the organization? Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Kaitlyn on Twitter: @kaitlyncmcgrath Subscribe to The Athletic for just $1/month for 6 months by visiting: theathletic.com/spinrate Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Two things about Stoeten: 1) He's old and reliable and 2) if he offers you a hamburger, politely decline. You've been warned. Drew (And)rew welcome ProPlayAI chief scientist, Dr. Mike Sonne, to today's show (5:00). The scholarly Dr. Sonne details ProPlayAI's technology and how pitchers like Nate Pearson are using these programs to further their understanding of biomechanics. In what ways are biomechanics/ProPlayAI being utilized to help Pearson and other users (7:30)? Does Pearson's cerebral, thoughtful approach to his craft help him better understand the benefits of sound biomechanics (12:30)? How does player health factor in when analyzing data (15:00)? Will players employing the use of ProPlayAI's understanding of biomechanics, open the door for athletes who we may not have originally thought of as having a chance (18:15)? Which player does Mike believe could benefit from improved biomechanics (22:00)? Drew and Andrew bid farewell to Mike and recap Toronto and Nate Pearson's performances against Atlanta (25:30). Could Pearson benefit from a seasoned catcher? Potentially a guy who's worn a Jays jersey at one point (33:30)? Is Toronto's bullpen the surprise standout for the club so far this season (37:30)? Lastly, Charlie Montoyo isn't working out (44:45).Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROFFollow Stoeten on Twitter: @AndrewStoetenFollow Mike on Twitter: @DrMikeSonneLearn more about ProPlayAI: Proplayai.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to The Athletic's Toronto Blue Jays podcast, Spin Rate, with Drew Fairservice and The Atheltic's Blue Jays scribe, Kaitlyn McGrath. First off, we're glad you're tuning in, secondly, before getting into the juicy stuff, Drew and Kaitlyn update us on what they've been doing since the end of the season, and address the direction of the show. OK, now for the saucy stuff. Geroge Springer, what does he bring to Toronto? How promising is the outfield, plus, the front office is demonstrating a willingness to spend money, so what's next? The two also converse about Marcus Semien's 2020 and his fit in the infield. Is 2B prime real estate for Semien, or is there enough concern for Bo Bichette at SS that it could force Semien into the gap? What about 3B? Kaitlyn reveals, arguably, her favorite signing of the offseason before the duo discusses Toronto's rotation. Kaitlyn humble brags about how smart she is which sets the table for her rotation grades. (Is a 'B' really that generous?) Let's talk about Robbie Ray and Jake Odorizzi. Lastly, where will the club play this seas...oh, well, we're finding out mid-recording that it's in Dunedin to kick off the season. Nice! We look forward to you joining us on Spin Rate, and can't wait for this season to begin! Rundown: (:30) Welcome to Spin Rate! (6:00) George Springer (17:30) Marcus Semien (27:45) Kaitlyn's grade and pitching (53:30) Spring Training look-ahead Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Kaitlyn on Twitter: @kaitlyncmcgrath Join The Athletic for just $3.99 a month! Visit: theathletic.com/spinrate Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Heeeee'ssss bbaaccckkk. Andrew Zuber, aka Zubes, joins Drew and Ol' Reliable to applaud Toronto first-round pick Austin Martin on signing above slot (6:00). Will Martin fill a vacant spot in the Blue Jays' player pool (16:00). The full nest hesitate reacting to Toronto's schedule because of an important missing ingredient: there's no concrete location for a home stadium (18:25). The guys ask ponder amid the continued civil unrest, is there a situation where the national anthem isn't played (24:30)? Has there ever been more monumental time for players to use their platform to bring about change? Besides the obvious, why does it take million/billion dollar corporate partners voicing their disdain against insensitive team names for action to take place (28:45)? Oh, and will there be a season, because tests and its accompanying results aren't being delivered fast enough (35:30)?Follow Andrew!: https://www.patreon.com/sportsfeld Save 40% off your first-year subscription to The Athletic by visiting: theathletic.com/birdsallday Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In honor of Thanksgiving, Drew and Kaitlyn share what they are thankful for, which is, of course, down ballots. Yes! Spin Rate feasts on down ballots, as we review the MLB award season and which Jays earned deserved accolades. Before plunging into which Jays won honors, the duo discuss Jose Berrios' press conference, and what his signing foretells about the Jays' future. Robbie Ray brought home the AL Cy Young award. Was his near-unanimous selection expected, and can he duplicate his 2021 performance next year (considering he stays with Toronto)? Vlad Jr. and Marcus Semien boasted incredible performances in 2021. Performances that in any other year would have earned them MVP and runner-up honors, respectively; however, their breakout play coincided with Shohei Ohtani's showstopping, once-in-a-century unanimous MVP run. Will we ever see another jaw-dropping season, like 2021, from Vlad? Drew and Kaitlyn confab about Alek Manoha and Charlie Montoyo earning votes for Rookie of the Year and Coach of the Year, respectively. Lastly, 40-man roster discourse! Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Kaitlyn on Twitter: @kaitlyncmcgrath Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

All bets are off! We react to Major League Baseball's decision to delay the start of the season and the cancellation of spring training, including the potential ramifications across sports and society in general and if baseball could look different when things eventually return to normal. Plus, drafting the best Blue Jays games should be rebroadcast with no baseball on TV, and Kaitlyn McGrath joins from Dunedin to discuss the last 24 hours around Blue Jays camp, and the team's response to the cancellation of games. Have a topic for Two Topic Tuesday? Email BirdsAllDayPod@gmail.com to submit a topic every week! Support Birds All Day by subscribing to The Athletic! Go to theathletic.com/birdsallday to get 40% off an annual subscription. Birds All Day LIVE! https://homestandsports.com/event/blue-jays-home-opener-tailgate-party/ Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Andrew on Twitter: @AndrewStoeten Read Andrew's work here: https://theathletic.com/author/andrew-stoeten Subscribe to the Vlad Religion Newsletter: https://fairservice.substack.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We soldier on! Jim Callis of MLB Pipeline joins us this week to chat about his visit to Blue Jays camp before the MLB season was put on hold. Jim gives some reasons to love Nate Pearson and his chances of being a key member of the Blue Jays rotation this season. Jim also discusses his impressions of catching prospects Alejandro Kirk and Gabriel Moreno, Jordan Groshans' upside, and offers some perspective on Vlad Guerrero Jr.'s first season in the Majors. Plus, we draft our all-time Blue Jays lineup at each position! Support Birds All Day by subscribing to The Athletic! Go to theathletic.com/birdsallday to get 40% off an annual subscription. Birds All Day LIVE! https://homestandsports.com/event/blue-jays-home-opener-tailgate-party/ Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Andrew on Twitter: @AndrewStoeten Read Andrew's work here: https://theathletic.com/author/andrew-stoeten Subscribe to the Vlad Religion Newsletter: https://fairservice.substack.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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In a special edition of Birds All Day, former Blue Jays manager John Gibbons joins the show to look back at his two tenures as the Jays skipper, including what stood out about the 2006 team (8:18) and they key to success in 2015/16. Gibby also chats bullpen philosophies and his thoughts on the opener, the modern relationship between manager and front office, his new gig as special assignment scout for the Braves, and much more. Plus, growing skepticism about baseball's potential to return this year, and as we continue to remember some guys, we discuss Stoeten's piece on the best Blue Jays by number and who was left off the list. Support Birds All Day by subscribing to The Athletic! Go to theathletic.com/birdsallday to get 40% off an annual subscription. Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Andrew on Twitter: @AndrewStoeten Read Andrew's work here: https://theathletic.com/author/andrew-stoeten Subscribe to the Vlad Religion Newsletter: https://fairservice.substack.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Athletic's Andrew Stoeten and Drew Fairservice, creators of the seminal Jays blogs Drunk Jays Fans and Ghostrunner On First talk everything Blue Jays. Get a taste of the show every Friday for free on Apple, Spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts, while you can catch the show with bonus content on The Athletic. You can start your 40% off subscription today by joining through theathletic.com/birdsallday Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

*In Steve Harwell singing voice* "Hey now, Jays got four All-Stars, get on the field now, and go play". Toronto smashed all other American League teams in All-Star participants with four honorees, including three starters, the most of any team regardless of conference. Drew and Kaitlyn discern whether if all that glitters is gold with Toronto's ASG members. Was it madness, enlightenment, a revelation(?) that caused Drew to compliment the Rays? The first-ever instance on Spin Rate where Drew praised Tampa Bay is followed by him and Kaitlyn breaking down the Jays' series win versus the aforementioned Florida club. The duo dish out team grades at the season's midway point, and discuss Robbie Ray's surprisingly good performance this year. Plus, will the Jays be back in Toronto before the end of the season? Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Kaitlyn on Twitter: @kaitlyncmcgrath Join The Athletic for just $3.99 a month! Visit: theathletic.com/spinrate Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

With the same battery-energy as Whitey Ford and Yogi Berra, Drew and Jonah Birenbaum pitch and catch Blue Jays musings with such panache, you'd think they were on the diamond. The guys bid farewell to Rowdy Tellez, who was traded to Milwaukee in exchange for pitcher Trevor Richards. Will Tellez's departure affect the team negatively? Is Richards' addition a boon to the bullpen? Finally, Drew can fully unleash his outer (yes, outer, not inner) Shohei Ohtani fanboy with Jonah around. Who will win the AL MVP, Shohei or Vlad? Trade machine time! Is Alejandro Kirk next out the door, or should Toronto start him as a valued offensive producer? Nate Pearson is a goner at this point, right? Could Toronto nab either Berrios or Castillos to fortify their rotation? What about Jose Ramirez? To close, the teammates flick through who's in the mix for the AL Wild Card and compare the Blue Jays to those clubs.  Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Jonah on Twitter: @birenball Join The Athletic for just $3.99 a month! Visit: theathletic.com/spinrate Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

As an homage to the Barenaked Ladies, I'm learning more and more about Canadian pop culture every day, "it's been one week since" you've listened to Drew and Kaitlyn together and, much "like Snickers, guaranteed to satisfy". Ole Miss pitcher, Gunnar Hoglund, was drafted 19th overall by Toronto in the MLB First Year Player Draft. Kaitlyn shares what she knows about the Jays' latest prospect, and details how the front office and scouting department perceives him. What's will more likely happen to Toronto in the second half of the season; will they collapse, surge forth, or remain unchanged in the last portion of the year? Is it fathomable the Jays trade for Joey Gallo? How would he affect the Jays? Lastly, Drew determines if he'd trade Vlad Jr. for Shohei Ohtani. Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Kailtny on Twitter: @kaitlyncmcgrath Join The Athletic for just $3.99 a month! Visit: theathletic.com/spinrate Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Fresh off the MLB All-Star Game, Drew and special guest Jeff Paternostro, lead prospect writer for Baseball Prospectus, discuss prospects with the potential to achieve an All-Star honor within the Blue Jays farm system, or just evaluate the young professionals in general. With the MLB Draft taking place within the last week, Drew and Jeff start there by analyzing Toronto's draft picks. Was drafting Gunnar Hoglund considered a steal? Could he develop into a middle-of-the-rotation starter? Ricky Tiedemann was scooped up by the Jays in the draft's third round. Tiedemann is one of many who was affected by the canceled high school sports season and 2020's condensed draft. What's his upside and is there extra confidence in him from Toronto's front office because he was able to overcome such odds last year? To wrap up draft chatter, what's the scouting report on Irv Carter, a prep arm out of Florida? What are Jeff's thoughts on Austin Martin and his Futures Game performance? Is the ex-Commodore on track with his growth? Plus, which prospects are fungible and which are untouchable if Toronto were to seek a trade. Also, Jeff wishes he would have graded Vlad's hit tools 80s. Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Jeff on Twitter: @jeffpaternostro Join The Atheltic for just $3.99 a month! Visit: theathletic.com/spinrate Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In honor of "Old Town Road", Vlad's first walk-up song at Rogers Centre, the Jays' were going to ride their offense 'til they couldn't no more in their series sweep of the Rangers. What was the biggest takeaway in the series? (Spoiler alert: Aside from the offense, pitching. Full stop. Pitching.) Drew and Kaitlyn confabulate about the Jays' second-half schedule and discuss whether the club needs another starting pitcher. On July 30th, for the first time since 2019, the Toronto Blue Jays will play in their home ballpark. Kaitlyn and Drew express their thoughts and feelings about Canada's long Covid-19 battle and the climb back to relative normalcy. Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Kaitlyn on Twitter: @kaitlyncmcgrath Join The Athletic for just $3.99 a month! Visit: theathletic.com/spinrate Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Drew welcomes Rob Wong, host of Blue Jays Baseball and Jays Talk on Sportsnet 590, to Spin Rate! The birds of a feather flock towards a recent development in the AL East, the Rays acquiring slugger, Nelson Cruz. What does this transaction portend for Toronto? Was Nelson a checkbox on the Jays' trade deadline wishlist? On this hypothetical wishlist, Joey Gallo is presumably a name underscored and circled for Ross Atkins and co. Should the Jays move Heaven and Earth for Gallo, or should they continue to wait and fortify their resources for the offseason when a 2022 playoff push might be more realistic? Is Vlad destined for the Triple Crown, and how valuable would Bo Bichette be as a trade piece? Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Rob on Twitter: @WongSN590 Join The Athletic for just $3.99 a month! Visit: theathletic.com/spinrate Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This is the week that will determine whether the Blue Jays believe they are a postseason contender. Before Drew and Kaitlyn propose a bevy of trade hypotheticals, they recap Toronto's troubles in the Big Apple. Drew lays out his defense for the Jays' 'Process vs. Progress'. Although the club dropped a pair to the Mets, the reshuffled lineup was a spark of inspiration for Jays fans, including Drew. Should Vladdy eventually hit fourth? Ryan Borucki was exposed. How should the lefty be deployed moving forward? Alejandro Kirk's return was very Kirk-esque, a smoothie of blended hitting prowess and face-palming flubs. Kaitlyn then details her hypothetical Blue Jays trade proposal to the Rangers for Ian Kennedy, Joey Gallo and more. Plus, what would it cost to extend Marcus Semien? Is it time to consider trading him? Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Kaitlyn on Twitter: @kaitlyncmcgrath Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Jays netted a big fish! Welcome to Toronto, Jose Berrios! Yes, with the trade deadline closely looming, the Jays orchestrated a trade with Minnesota to nab the best available starting pitcher left in trade negotiations. The Athletic's Tim McMaster and Kaitlyn McGrath breakdown the specifics of the trade, and how Berrios will impact the Jays now, and in the future. Afterward, join Drew and Andrew Zuber, who recorded Thursday night before the Berrios trade, as they try to stave off emotional and mental breakdowns because the Yankees and Rays made, potential, division-altering moves. Plus, insight into the Brad Hand transaction; will there be a blockbuster trade in the off-season, and more! Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Zubes on Twitter: @the_Zubes Follow Tim on Twitter: @TimMMcMaster Follow Kaitlyn on Twitter: @kaitlyncmcgrath Check out Sportsfeld: https://linktr.ee/sportsfeld Save 33% on an annual subscription to The Athletic by visiting: theathletic.com/spinrate Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

July 30th, 2021, was a day that will be chiseled into Blue Jays fans' DNA for years to come. After a two-year hiatus from Toronto, the birds finally returned to their nest and defended the Rogers Centre splendidly. Drew and Kaitlyn describe the emotions of last Friday to the best of their abilities and share sentiments from players, Jays' personnel, and fans alike. Did the Jays fork over too many high-profile prospects for Berrios? Drew and Kaitlyn deliberate Friday's magnitudinous trade, and take stock of Berrios' first outing as a TBJ. The pair also weigh the Jays' other transactions and gauge the performance of the revamped bullpen. Lastly, George Springer's first weekend at the Rogers Center; Alek Manoah's outings are breeding confidence in fans and teammates, and we Stan Santiago Espinal. Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Kaitlyn on Twitter: @kaitlyncmcgrath Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Maybe it's obvious or maybe it's not, but it's worth asking after the trade deadline, are the Blue Jays in win-now mode? Drew welcomes Sportsnet's sagacious scrivener, Shi Davidi, to answer that question and more. Plus, is Vlad Jr. in line for a Tatis-esque contract this offseason? Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Shi on Twitter: @ShiDavidi Read Shi's book!: http://bit.ly/2ODixFm Save 33% on an annual subscription to The Athletic by visiting: theathletic.com/spinrate Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

TAKE THAT, BOSTON! Toronto secures three-of-four-weekend meetings against the Red Sox to close the AL East gap. Drew and Kaitlyn extract the most important headlines from the Jays' series win, including George Springer's ascent to a celestial form and the club's excellent pitching. The duo then discusses Toronto's West coast get-away and run through the AL playoff race. Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Kaitlyn on Twitter: @kaitlyncmcgrath Save 33% on an annual subscription to The Athletic by visiting: theathletic.com/spinrate Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Fret not, Angels fans. If you're ready to abandon mediocrity for an up-and-coming, near-playoff-bound franchise, then this podcast is your keycard to the Blue Jays suit. In your room, Riley Breckenridge, drummer for Thrice and Angels loyalist who joins Drew today on the podcast, will undress your ears with his percussive drumming. The co-owner of Classic Grit, a baseball apparel store, shares his two cents on Anaheims' season and opines about the team's, seemingly, perpetual mediocrity. What can the Angels, and its fans, learn from the Blue Jays organization? At the intersection of Anaheim and Toronto, is Vlad Sr. What's it like having watched Sr., and now Jr., play? Lastly, Riley discusses Thrice's upcoming record, tour, and more! Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Riley on Twitter: @rileybreck Check out Thrice's tour and record info!: https://thrice.net/ Save 33% on an annual subscription to The Athletic by visiting: theathletic.com/spinrate Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It was a disappointing weekend for Jays fans, and understandably so, however, there's a silver lining to all this stink; you get to listen to Drew and Kaitlyn rehash all the highs and lows! OK, well, maybe not so much silver as a nickeled lining...anyway. The voices of Spin Rate discuss the three-game series versus the Mariners, including Friday's game-winning walk and the inconsistent pitching that went along with it as well as George Springer's injury. What will the lineup look like with Springer sidelined? The Viceroy of Vibes, Teoscar Hernandez, has blossomed into an unexpected contributor for Toronto in recent years but does his potential and current production outweigh his shortcomings? Drew and Kaitlyn deliberate Hernandez's value. Lastly, a look ahead to this week's series. Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Kaitlyn on Twitter: @kaitlyncmcgrath Save 33% on an annual subscription to The Athletic by visiting: theathletic.com/spinrate Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Among the recent string of rebuilding organizations, the White Sox and Blue Jays are two revamped clubs whose reassembling efforts are bearing fruit. Drew and Kevin Kaduk, founder of the Midway Minute, a Chicago sports newsletter, kibbitz about the Sox's reclamation project and how it's bearing results. How is Chicago's internal reset similar to Toronto's? The Cubs, who, optically, are at the starting line of their own rebuild, vary in what ways to the Sox and Jays' rebuilds? Plus, Kevin dispenses advice related to Toronto's development. Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Kevin on Twitter: @KevinKaduk Check out the Midway Minute: https://signup.midwayminute.win/ Save 33% on an annual subscription to The Athletic by visiting: theathletic.com/spinrate Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Is it best to attribute Toronto's weekend series loss to Detroit to bad luck, awful juju, voodoo, or black magic? Why not all superstitious, preternatural phenomena? Drew and Kaitlyn, begrudgingly, breakdown the Blue Jays' forgettable three-game set versus the Tigers, and comb through the bad to find some good. Plus, acknowledging Miggy's 500th career home run, and looking at Toronto's upcoming schedule. Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Kaitlyn on Twitter: @kaitlyncmcgrath Save 33% on an annual subscription to The Athletic by visiting: theathletic.com/spinrate Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Kaitlyn is on a Thursday podcast?! Wuh? Yeah, believe it, yo. Drew and Kaitlyn wishes they could emit the same energy and swag as Robbie "Strikeout King" Ray did in Wednesday's start versus the White Sox. Fanning 14 batters on a playoff-bound team might earn you some extra dough if you're Robbie Ray. Right? The duo poses the question "should Toronto re-sign Robbie Ray or Marcus Semien" (assuming you can only re-sign one of the two)? Is Semien willing to remain at second base in the future? Why have timely hits eluded the Jays? Plus, which catcher should start after Danny Jansen returns from his rehab assignment? Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Kaitlyn on Twitter: @kaitlyncmcgrath Save 33% on an annual subscription to The Athletic by visiting: theathletic.com/spinrate Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In episode one of the Future of Sports series, The Athletic's Mike Smeltz looks at how the fan experience may change: how going to games, watching games at home and how memorabilia is shifting from physical to digital. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On another glorious episode of Birds All Day, Drew and Stoeten welcome Toronto Blue Jays radio play-by-play announcer, Mike Wilner, to the program (6:30)! Mike fills us in on life without baseball and broaches a cornucopia of subjects, including: his level of optimism in a season (11:45); the advantages the Jays could present in a truncated year (13:30); how to quantify success under these circumstances (16:40) and should Toronto excel early in a condensed season, should they go for broke and orchestrate title-contending moves (25:10)? After Drew and Stoeten bid Mike adieu, they cover a couple topics like the ongoing labor dispute (28:30) and rule changes that won't be redacted and their impact on the spirit and spontaneity of the sport (38:45). The guys conclude today's podcast by sorting through Stoeten's all-time best Blue Jays' free agent signings, and mull what it will take for Hyun-jin Ryu to rank among the club's legendary signees (53:00). Save 40% off your first-year subscription to The Athletic by visiting: theathletic.com/birdsallday Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Support Birds All Day by subscribing to The Athletic! Go to theathletic.com/birdsallday to get 40% off an annual subscription.    Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF  Follow Andrew on Twitter: @AndrewStoeten  Read Andrew's work here: https://theathletic.com/author/andrew-stoeten  Subscribe to the Vlad Religion Newsletter: https://fairservice.substack.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Another week, another behind the scenes conversation about NBA Live 2006. I mean, how underrated was Jason Kapono (62 Overall with a an 80 3pt? C'mon, that's doing my man dirty.)? What wasn't underrated this week (great [bad] segue) was news of Vladimir Gurrero Jr. moving to first base (3:30). Why was this move made; will it bolster Toronto's defense; could it stunt Guerrero Jr.'s growth and was this move made because of Travis Shaw? As high as their ceilings are, there still seems to be uncertainty surrounding Cavan Biggio and Lourdes Gurriel Jr. (25:45). Can the Blue Jays please re-sign Ken Giles (41:15)? Plus, confidence is building in Toronto's attempt to play at home in the Rogers Centre (49:15).Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROFFollow Old Reliable on Twitter: @AndrewStoeten Save 40% off your first-year subscription to The Athletic by visiting: theathletic.com/birdsallday Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Plausible potential! With Major League Baseball taking more steps to attempt a return to play, we welcome in Blue Jays Central host Jamie Campbell to chat about the volunteer work he's been doing with Conquer Covid-19, including delivering PPE to communities across Ontario and calling Blue Jays fans over the phone. Jamie explains the inspiration behind both ideas, takes us behind the scenes on Blue Jays Central and his philosophy on connecting with fans of all ages, gives his thoughts on how the Blue Jays were projecting coming into the 2020 season, and the team's chances of competing in the A.L. East. Plus, we discuss the Blue Jays looking at alternative stadium plans if games have to be played outside Canada, the latest trailer for Roy Halladay's upcoming E:60 documentary, and touch on Stoeten's piece comparing Mark Shapiro and Alex Anthopoulos. For more information on Conquer Covid-19, visit conquercovid19.ca. Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Andrew on Twitter: @AndrewStoeten Read Andrew's work here: https://theathletic.com/author/andrew-stoeten Subscribe to the Vlad Religion Newsletter: https://fairservice.substack.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Support Birds All Day by subscribing to The Athletic! Go to theathletic.com/birdsallday to get 40% off an annual subscription.  Birds All Day LIVE! https://homestandsports.com/event/blue-jays-home-opener-tailgate-party/ Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF  Follow Andrew on Twitter: @AndrewStoeten  Read Andrew's work here: https://theathletic.com/author/andrew-stoeten  Subscribe to the Vlad Religion Newsletter: https://fairservice.substack.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Drew and Kaitlyn react to Toronto relieving Charlie Montoyo of his managerial duties. Was the writing on the wall, and if not, then why fire him? Did Montoyo lose the clubhouse? What's next for the Jays?  Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Kaitlyn on Twitter: @kaitlyncmcgrath Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Kaitlyn McGrath returns to the show to help us break down the latest in negotiations between MLB and the Union, including the league's low-ball proposal and the reaction from players across baseball. We discuss Scott Boras encouraging players to stand up to owners, how all of this factors into the upcoming CBA negotiations, and what it means for the prospect of a return to play in 2020. Plus, we go over the results of The Athletic's Blue Jays Fan Survey and some of the most notable responses, and debate how to evaluate the career of Derek Jeter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

There's few more qualified than the seasoned, grizzled Blue Jays podcast vets, Drew and Ol' Reliable, to fully convey the pang felt from watching the Jays' suspect base running (5:15). Chiefly, why is the team's base running so...so...bafflingly disappointing, and though fans take issue with the blunders, a fraction of a fraction are repulsed by players trying to make plays (10:15). Jays enthusiasts, rightfully, take issue with these shortcomings, but why is it they must labor through these mistakes (17:15)? Drew and (And)rew unseal hand-written (virtual) letters from listeners (24:30)! And, amazingly, all include thoughtful questions about the Blue Jays. Go figure. There's potential this novel idea is used, habitually, throughout the sports media landscape. Spread the word! Anyways, Jonathan Villar an upgrade at third base over Travis Shaw? Should the team consider welcoming back Justin Smoak (29:30)? (Note: This isn't a pithy or facetious question.) Is it time we quit chastising the Jays for every little flaw, and, instead, enjoy empty September baseball (32:15)? Does this whole condensed season thing count (35:15)? Would the club consider hanging a banner in the Rogers Centre rafters if they make the postseason? The guys have access to a time machine, right, and of all the crazy, wacky, time distorting things they could do; would they redo the Josh Donaldson trade (41:15)? Is it time Alejandro Kirk joins the team (42:30)? Lastly, Drew and Ol' Reliable take a stab at configuring Toronto's rotation in a three-game series (50:15).   Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Andrew on Twitter: @AndrewStoeten Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Sportsnet writer extraordinaire, Nick Ashbourne, accompanies Drew and Andrew on their trip through the Blue Jays MLB Draft (5:15). The triumvirate hone in on Toronto's top-selection, Austin Martin, and how he projects as a major leaguer, what skills he offers defensively and in future Jays' lineups and more. Hey, guess what? Toronto drafted more than one player, and they actually matter! The trio tackle the trajectory of CJ Van Eyk, Trent Palmer and other draftees. Once Nick departs, the Drew with two extra letters and Drew react to Keith Law's comments on Martin's upside (25:15). The guys wrap up the show by encouraging others to keep the dialogue about the injustices in our country open. Save 40% off your first-year subscription to The Athletic by visiting: theathletic.com/birdsallday Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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The Jays are a playoff team in the same way playoff teams are lifeless scarecrows constantly being pecked, soaked, beaten and being forced to watch actual good teams play baseball while trying to keep a smile. Drew, Stoeten and The Athletic's Blue Jays beat writer Kaitlyn McGrath pursue the truth...well...the relative truth; are the Blue Jays a playoff caliber team (:30)? What perspectives can these Jays journos present amid epic beatings? Derek Fisher...ugh (20:30). If MLB's expanded playoff format is here to stay, how do we feel about 16 teams vying for a pennant after 162 (28:00)? How does this adversely effect players? Magic number: 9. What potential adjustments do the trio perceive taking place ahead of Toronto's postseason push (43:30)?Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROFFollow Stoeten on Twitter: @AndrewStoetenFollow Kaitlyn on Twitter: @kaitlynmcgrath Join The Athletic for just $1 a month! Visit: theathletic.com/birdsallday  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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The thick of the thin! Jonah Birenbaum, Senior MLB writer for theScore joins from Dunedin to discuss his takeaways from first week in camp and first impressions of Nate Pearson. We discuss the tragic passing of Blue Jays legend Tony Fernandez and what he meant to a generation of fans, as well as where he ranks on the team's all-time list of infielders. Plus, a look at some of the early projections for the Blue Jays, MLB Commissioner Rob Manfred's handling of the Astros scandal, and Joe Panik's chances of making the team.   Support Birds All Day by subscribing to The Athletic! Go to theathletic.com/birdsallday to get 40% off an annual subscription. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The fairest Fairservice and Stoeten welcome The Athletic's Blue Jays reporter Kaitlyn McGrath to today's program! How about that player pool (7:30)!? With the 58-player pool formed, what are some of the biggest questions still looming over this squad? In a sad and, seemingly, inevitable move, the Minor League Baseball season canceled. How will this affect improving players like Joey Murray (12:00)? The triumvirate tackle the most surprising moves in Toronto's player pool (23:00), plus Ty Tice (and Drew) and dunk (27:30)? Do any Blue Jays players fit the mold of someone who would opt out of participating in this season (36:00)? Concern still lingers about the Jays commuting in and out of Canada (40:30). Save 40% off your first-year subscription to The Athletic by visiting: theathletic.com/birdsallday Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

With baseball still on hiatus, we speak with Todd Zolecki, the author of 'Doc: The Life of Roy Halladay' to discuss the process of writing the book, what he learned about Doc through his years covering him, new nuggets about the trade that sent him from the Blue Jays to the Phillies, as well as the recent details around his death and how the darker side of his story are reflected in the book. Plus, we discuss the reaction to MLB's reported proposal to reduce player salaries in a condensed season, the public's tendency to side with owners after players like Blake Snell and Marcus Stroman spoke out, as well as our thoughts on the adoption of a universal DH across baseball. Pre-order Todd's book, 'Doc: The Life of Roy Halladay' at Triumph Books: triumphbooks.com/DocBlueJays Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Andrew on Twitter: @AndrewStoeten Read Andrew's work here: https://theathletic.com/author/andrew-stoeten Subscribe to the Vlad Religion Newsletter: https://fairservice.substack.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Join The Athletic for just $1 a month! Visit: theathletic.com/spinrate Monday musings!? Spin Rate side sessions? We're still workshopping names for the first of our now twice-weekly podcasts. (Maybe drop us a line on what you think these episodes should be named.) Regardless, Drew and Kaitlyn recap Toronto's Opening Day as well as their first season series win! What observations did the pair make? How about Julian Merryweather flashing brilliance (4:00), and did Kaitlyn predict Merryweather would be the Jays' closer last year?! The duo serve up their thoughts on the bullpen as a whole after three games (13:30). Slim Vlad flaunted his offensive firepower to the Yankees (22:30), but did his bat make up for some infield defensive mistakes (30:30)? What else stuck out to both Drew and Kaitlyn in the Blue Jays' first series of the year? Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Kaitlyn on Twitter: @kaitlyncmcgrath Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Join The Athletic for just $3.99 a month! Visit: theathletic.com/spinrate Guess who's back, back again? Zubes is back, tell a fellow subscriber or non-subscriber who should subscribe to The Athletic (subliminal messaging at its finest). Yes! Drew welcomes Sportsfeld and Wrestling Brain's Andrew Zuber to the podcast to chat, well, all things Blue Jays! Checking the pulse of Jays nation, what is the expectation for this year's ball club, both realistic and fantastical (2:00)? Ross Atkins pocketed some wads of cash after agreeing to a contract extension with Toronto. Was it well earned, or does uneasiness outrank the optimism (12:00)? On Drew's pallet of dreams is a dense blob of Pascal Siakam drafts saved in Twitter and Cavan Biggio trade proposals (16:00). Should we wave the white flag on Biggio or cling to hope? Is it time to exchange prospects for win-now talent (21:30)? Waddabout Kirk behind the dish to start the season (27:30)? Before powering down, Zubes and Drew order up a Teoscar check-in (31:30). Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Andrew on Twitter: @the_Zubes Visit Sportsfeld: https://www.patreon.com/sportsfeld Check out Wrestling Brain: https://twitter.com/wrestling_brain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Join The Athletic for just $3.99 a month! Visit: theathletic.com/spinrate Rain, really? When was the last time a Jays' game was rained out? Drew and Kaitlyn stay sheltered from the drizzle and discuss Toronto's early-in-the-week offensive woes that parted to reveal a shining offensive spectacle (2:00). Kaitlyn goes down the laundry list of other weekday happenings, including Teoscar Hernandez being placed on the Covid-19 IL, George Springer's setback, and more. Can Josh Palacios parlay his historic big-league debut to a full-time position (15:00)? Whose job could he take? Is his hot hitting just a flash in the pan? Vlad continues to display his incredible potential (20:30). Were the Jays too quick to move Tanner Roark to the bullpen (25:00)? What are the pros and cons of the move? Plus, a look ahead to the Yankees. Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Kaitlyn on Twitter: @kaitlyncmcgrath Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Join The Athletic for just $3.99 a month! Visit: theathletic.com/spinrate Sportsnet baseball editor and one half of 'At the Letters' podcast Ben Nicholson-Smith joins Drew to gauge if the early-season Jays are good, bad, or just meh (3:00). Drew and Ben look at the parallels and contrasts between the 2015 AL Division-winning Blue Jays and this 2021 club. Where does Ben see Julian Merryweather and Drew Pearson fitting into the rotation if this team reaches the postseason? The duo discusses potential areas of improvement on the roster and toss out some trade suggestions. Before parting ways, Drew and Ben take time to admire Vald Jr.'s work through the team's first 12 games. Which facets of his game could use refining, and are Vlad Jr.'s and Miguel Cabrera's styles of play similar? Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Ben on Twitter: @bnicholsonsmith Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Join The Athletic for just $3.99 a month! Visit: theathletic.com/spinrate Toronto's starting pitching was competent over the last week? Drew and Kaitlyn discuss if Steven Matz's and the Jays' respectable pitching performances can be sustained, or is this just an anomaly? Would there be a marked drop-off at third base if Vlad were to take over for Cavan Biggio? Heck, how about if Joe Panik or anyone else were to assume 3B duties? Kaitlyn considers whether Vlad would benefit from moving to third base, or if staying at first base is more fruitful. The duo draws into question Charlie Montoyo's recent late-game decision to call T. J. Zeuch in relief. Plus, a closer examination of the bullpen and, finally, an off day! Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Kaitlyn on Twitter: @kaitlyncmcgrath Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Join The Athletic for just $3.99 a month! Visit: theathetlic.com/spinrate Drew and baseball analytics writer for The Athletic, Eno Sarris, have a substantive conversation about...substances...on MLB's new baseballs (5:00). Eno discerns new and existing substances used on balls and how they may influence the league's regulations. New substances are, ironically, coating new baseballs (16:00). How is the Major League's newest stitched marble impacting today's game? In what way can the league alter the ball to possibly engage more casual fans? Eno spits straight facts (depending on who you ask) about Vlad Jr., Bo, and Steven Matz (23:30). Plus, Eno talks about being away from ballparks and the latest beers to capture his attention and taste buds (33:00). Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Eno on Twitter: @enosarris Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Join The Athletic for just $3.99 a month! Visit: theathletic.com/spinrate Is it an illusion, smoke and mirrors, a miscalculation, or do the Blue Jays currently boast one, if not the, best bullpen in the majors? Drew and Kaitlyn pull back the curtain on Toronto's relief core and discuss the latest with Hyun-Jin Ryu. Is the pen's stellar performance sustainable, and how much credit, if any, does Charlie Montoyo deserve? Negative Drew notes the Jays' defensive lapses and poses if Bo Bichette headlines these issues. Is Kris Bryant a possibility at 3B? George Springer and others are set to return soon so, let's rosterbate! Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Kaitlyn on Twitter: @kaitlyncmcgrath Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Join The Athletic for just $3.99 a month! Visit: theathletic.com/spinrate Count 'em: not one, not two, but THREE dingers from Vlad the Great (or Terrible depending on who you ask) in a single game! Drew shares his thoughts on a night he and Jays' loyalists will never forget. MLB.com analyst, ESPN voice, and co-host of the Ballkpark Dimensions podcast Mike Petriello joins the show to discuss the state of baseball, and what he believes can improve the game. Mike also opines about Cavan Biggio and Toronto's 3B quandary, the team's pitching quality, and what it means to have Geroge Springer inserted into the lineup. Plus, a look around the AL East. Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Mike on Twitter: @mike_petriello Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Join The Athletic for just $3.99 a month! Visit: theathletic.com/spinrate George Springer's Spring return sprung Toronto ahead three games in the win column after sweeping Atlanta over the weekend. Drew and Kaitlyn react to the Jays' offseason big-price-tag acquisition's start to the 2021 campaign after being medically cleared to play. How will he impact the club's offense? Will he remain at leadoff? Though Springer is convalescing, there are many a-Jays that are sidelined with injuries. Which positions need bolstering? What's the status of the players who are out? A quick look at Minor League assignments leads into previewing Toronto's series in Oakland (28:30). Plus, the Blue Jays and Major League Baseball have moved on from Roberto Alomar after sexual misconduct allegations surface. Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Kaitlyn on Twitter: @kaitlyncmcgrath Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Join The Athletic for just $3.99 a month! Visit: theathletic.com/spinrate Craig Goldstein, Editor-in-Chief of Baseball Prospectus, joins Drew as the duo dissect early-season Blue Jays narratives. Craig delineates baselines for performance sustainability. What can analysts and viewers, alike, buy stock in a month into the season? How does one separate a hot start from an intentional high level of play (7:00)? If you're new to the podcast, then welcome to your weekly dose of 'to Biggio or not to Biggio?' Drew and Baseball Prospectus' overlord chat about Biggio's April, what attributes warrant keeping him around, and Craig's projection of Biggio (17:00). You can't sully Vlad Jr.'s 2021 with words, because they would be undeniably false (27:00). What can we expect from Minor League Baseball this year (32:00)? Why was it so disappointing to see many affiliates eliminated? Has MiLB and MLB barred the entryway to baseball fandom? Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Craig on Twitter: @@cdgoldstein Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Thinking about thinking! Keith Law makes his return to the show and discusses how the minor leagues could be impacted by the ongoing stoppage in play and his new book, The Inside Game, researching behavioural economics and the history of cognitive bias among baseball decision-makers. Keith shares some of the people he spoke with for the book, including former Blue Jays GM Alex Anthopoulos, and weighs in on whether or not family ties in pro baseball could be part of the same conversation. Plus, we discuss the punishment handed down to the Red Sox by Rob Manfred and what differentiates it from the Astros scandal, how both could impact the role of video replay in baseball, and we look ahead to the start of the Korean baseball season. Keith's new book, The Inside Game: Bad Calls, Strange Moves, and What Baseball Behavior Teaches Us about Ourselves, is available now at BookShop.org Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Opening Day is how close?! Fleeting March Grapefruit League games will soon turn over to actual baseball, so let's talk about the actual Blue Jays players who will be taking the field! Drew and Kaitlyn project Toronto's roster and inspect positions that still have unanswered questions, including the bullpen's composition, and what to do with Nate Pearson and Ryan Borucki. Though George Springer is optimistically aiming to play "150+ games", the Jays need more centerfield help. Longtime Yankee, Brett Gardner, has been linked to the Jays, is an exchange feasible? Also, the Jose Ramirez chatter is unceasing and Drew has a Ramirez-related theory. Lastly, Drew and Kaitlyn confab about the AL East's competitiveness. Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Kaitlyn on Twitter: @kaitlyncmcgrath Subscribe to The Athletic for $1/month for 6 months by visiting: theathletic.com/spinrate Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Opening Day is this Friday!!! There's still plenty left for Drew and Kaitlyn to cover before Toronto's first pitch against the Rangers, such as the Zack Collins trade and Charlie Montoyo's extension. Why did the Blue Jays release Greg Bird, and who will the Jays' brain trust bring in to fill out their remaining roster spots? Drew shares his burning questions about this year's squad before he and Kaitlyn wrap up the show with season predictions. Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Kaitlyn on Twitter: @kaitlyncmcgrath Subscribe to The Athletic for just $1/month for 6 months by visiting: theathletic.com/spinrate Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Spin Rate fans! Let's welcome the newest member of the podcast, former Blue Jays all-star pitcher, Opening Day starter, and golf extraordinaire, Ricky Romero! Drew and Ricky will bring you all the Blue Jays nuggets, insights, and opinions weekly throughout the season! The guys discuss Ricky's memories from his Opening Day start, expectations for Toronto in 2022, their perfect lineup, Jays' pitchers' signature pitches, and season predictions, including a Blue Jays World Series title! Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Ricky on Twitter: @Ricky_Ro24 Subscribe to The Athletic for just $1/month for 6 months by visiting: theathletic.com/spinrate Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The opening series of 2022 is in the rearview mirror for the Blue Jays. Drew and Kaitlyn detail the electric atmosphere and emotional fans at Rogers Centre. The pair discuss their mixed feelings about the new scoreboard, Friday's comeback win versus the Rangers, Berrios and Ryu's uncharacteristic outings, and the current absence of a true ace on the team. Plus, an overview of the upcoming Yankees series. Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Kaitlyn on Twitter: @kaitlyncmcgrath Subscribe to The Athletic for just $1/month for 6 months by visiting: theathletic.com/spinrate Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Vladimir Guerrero Jr. is a man on a mission. Drew and Ricky react to Vladdy going OFF in a three-home-run performance versus the dreaded Yankees. Plus, Julian Merryweather and the bullpen are humming; can Santiago Espinal play himself into an everyday role, and Jose Berrios bounces back. Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Ricky on Twitter: @Ricky_Ro24 Subscribe to The Athletic for just $1/month for 6 months by visiting: theathletic.com/spinrate Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Alek Manoah powered the Jays to a series finale victory over the Athletics. Drew and Kaitlyn discuss Manoah's hot start as well as Jordan Romano's stellar start to 2022. Despite the Blue Jays smashing homers at a high clip, this offense hasn't reached its potential yet. Lastly, Ryu and others' bumps and lumps and the Jeff Nelson fiasco. Also, go kick cancers' ass, Buck. Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Kaitlyn on Twitter: @kaitlyncmcgrath Subscribe to The Athletic for $1/month for 6 months by visiting: theathletic.com/spinrate Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A narrow series-opening defeat at the hands of the nefarious Red Sox has Drew and Ricky discussing Bo Bichette and the bottom of the order's offense. When will it find water, and what adjustments can those parties make? Kikuchi and Stripling stacked solid performances for the Jays. Plus, are there mechanical issues with Ryu? Ricky shares his thoughts. Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Ricky on Twitter: @Ricky_Ro24 Subscribe to The Athletic for just $1/month for 6 months by visiting: theathletic.com/spinrate Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Soaked in triumph, the back-to-back series-winning Jays appeared to turn a corner offensively, if only a shallow corner. Drew and Kaitlyn discuss the wins in Boston and Houston, and they also wonder out loud if moving Vlad to the 2-spot would result in a cloudburst of offense. Espinal continues to impress, as does Matt Chapman's ludicrous arm. Jordan Romano looked a bit shaky versus the 'Stros, is all OK in Savesland? Plus, Toronto faces a crucial 10-game homestand. Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Kaitlyn on Twitter: @kaitlyncmcgrath Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Toronto's late-game heroics have been well documented this season, yet, Drew is ordering a blowout. He and Ricky discuss the uneasiness of the one-run games the Jays have been involved in this season. The Bluebirds are shifting more than any other MLB team this year, will this strategy pay off? Ross Stripling, Kevin Gausman, and Alek Manoah are all dealing at the moment, when will Kikuchi join in the fun? Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Ricky on Twitter: @Ricky_Ro24 Subscribe to The Athletic for just $1/month for 6 months by visiting: theathletic.com/spinrate Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Jays kick off their west coast swing after a miserable three-game stretch against the Rays. Drew and Kaitlyn share cliff notes from the Tampa Bay series before honing in on Kevin Gausman's injury. Though Gausman's future isn't totally in question, his absence still highlights Toronto's dearth of pitching depth. Is a left-handed bat still a need at the trade deadline? Berrios and Kikuchi deliver bounce-back performances. Pancakes the Dog chimes in about George Springer's mic'd up segment in the Jays game on YouTube before the crew wraps up the show by discussing the Canada Day festivities and the team's west coast trip. Our thoughts go out to Mark Budzinski and the Budzinski family. Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Kaitlyn on Twitter: @kaitlyncmcgrath Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Drew and Ricky kibbitz about the highlights and low-lights of Toronto's trip to Oakland. On the upside, Matt Chapman crushed the ball at the plate, and Jose Berrios orchestrated a great rebound performance. Which leaves us with the downside, Kikuchi, what can the Jays do to help remedy his pitching woes? Plus, we play 'Who Caught for Ricky?', and look ahead to the Mariners series. Follow Drew on Twitter: @DrewGROF Follow Ricky on Twitter: @Ricky_Ro24 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices