Shake Them Ropes | Pro Wrestling Podcast (Shake Them Ropes)

This week, we talk Robbie Robertson and William Friedkin, then onto the news-- scintillating Board of Directors discussion and WWE shakes up announce teams. Then THE LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM where we pretty much loathed everything with a few notable exceptions.

This week: the death of Lanny Poffo, AEW House shows, Kota Ibushi as a free agent. Then the LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM: Ice cold Royal Rumble thoughts and the perspective of a lapsed wrestling fan, NXT Vengeance Day preview, a look at the bad promo between Becky and Bayley and the completely unnecessary use of Seth Rollins, and more.

This week, Jeff is upset AEW didn't plug Will Ospreay for Collision, then in the news, USA gets RAW for a couple more months, Mania goes to Vegas, and the Backlash scrum leads to drama. Then the LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM: Backlash and Raw were fun watches, AEW had one or two things and NXT only had Chelsea Green to redeem it.

This week: in the news, Kenny Omega returns…to New Japan, in the LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM, NXT’s ECW tribute beats AEW and in Vader Club: Vader vs. Salman Hasimikov from New Japan 1989

This week, we talk the hiring of Lee Fitting to WWE which is not without controversy, Tony Khan in his feels on social media and the LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM: Does Adam Cole have only one promo when leading a heel faction? Has WWE found out about competency and nuance in character dynmaics? Also good comedy and bad comedy. Plus other nonsense.

We talk Dusty Classic Bracketology, ask if YouTube views mean more skits like wedding angles, and the Smackdown women's division.

This week in the news: Jeff Cobb in WWE; In the Lazy River of Wrestling Criticism: AEW Revolution and NXT Roadblock and in Vader Club we talk Barry Windham’s turn and watch Luger/Windham vs. Tully/Arn from Clash of the Champions I

Nov botches the intro then we talk Vince's legal team's latest memorandum, AEW taking over Arlington Texas and Pro Wrestling NOAH seeking to get tighter with WWE. Then THE LAZY RIVER OF CRITICISM talking all things Dynamite, RAW/Smackdown and NXT including the welcome return of Darby Allin on a show lacking a lot of connection.

*EXPLICIT LANGUAGE* Back in June of 2019, on the somewhat dormant Patreon, Chris and Jeff recorded a look back at Beyond the Mat, which is now back on Netflix. Jeff went to a Universal employee screening when it first came out, and he and Chris go through what opinions have changed, what aged well, what didn't. Also a few odd sidebars here and there. If you're holed up, give it a watch and then give us a listen.

This week, in the news: Britt Baker gets suspended, in THE LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM a preview of SummerSlam and we review the two big angles on Dynamite and in Vader Club: Brody and Hansen vs Tsuruta and Tenryu from All Japan

This week, we're late, but you know, here. Smackdown goes to USA, WWE makes some cuts, and more news. Then THE LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM where we see what we watched amongst all the voluminous amounts of content out there

This week we ask if AEW is a lazy company. In the news, Johnny Ace is a gutless simp, Drew and Seth re-sign, Brad Blum quits and NXT cuts. Then THE LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM: a Backlash preview, Kenny's promo, Christian and Swerve, and MORE!

We watched Crown Jewel so you get HOT TAKES for a change. Then the news and THE LAZY RIVER OF CRITICISM. We talk Ric Flair, we talk another intra-Elite angle and tie that into the discourse of AEW "losing its way"

In the news the death of Sid Eudy, in the LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM, ice cold takes on All In and previews of Bash in Berlin and NXT No Mercy for Vader club: Orient Express vs. The Rockers Royal Rumble 1991.

We talk WWE wanting to fill stadiums three quarters, Johnny Ace coming back to head Talent Relations as well as the rest of the news and in depth looks at the builds to Fastlane and the post-mortem on AEW's ppv and the follow up. NXT has new titles and there's a lot to say on how they handled that as well.

On this week's STR, not a lot of news so a lot on THE LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM. ICE COLD TAKES on a fun Elimination Chamber, Sasha/Kairi was great, OC/Yuta was great and the promos and storytelling had a lot to be desired. MJF is now a sociopath, Paul Heyman is going to "sleep" with Brandy and Aunt Pam and the Man are doing prop comedy, what are we doing? Nov takes SRS to task a bit, Vince isn't in creative, Jeff continues to tell you to watch Emi Sakura and he sneaks his Freebirds viewing in as well.

Vince's vision is coming to NXT, the emphasis on size with Raw, and how the Becky return is shockingly subtle. Plus we do a lazy river of whatever caught our fancy on any stateside wrestling, preview All Out, and have a discussion on what the etiquette for podcast hosts is when one of them is going to be absent.

In the news: AEW goes All In somewhere else in 2025, in the Lazy River: Jeff enjoyed Dynamite, Vader Club: The Tower of Doom match from the Great American Bash 1988.

This week we start shortly after Elimination Chamber with THE LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM talking about the onramp to Wrestlemania and throw in some news and other thoughts on a good week in tv. Then for Vader Club we have Joe Malenko and Tsuyoshi Kikuchi vs. the Fantastics

This week in the news: QT Marshall quits AEW, Jeff explains torn labrums, Flair being Flair and we mourn WWE cutting McKenzie Mitchell. Then THE LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM: Put your great promos on tv, the Punk promo was mid and in the wrong slot, fun matches from Rush/Mark Briscoe and Ilja/Nathan Fraser, and Chris tries to heal the world with a holiday EP and so much more.

This week in the news: Mr. McMahon drops, in THE LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM Jey Uso wins the IC title, and in Vader Club, Mike Awesome and Masato Tanaka from ECW Heat Wave 1998.

Horror Show at Extreme Rules! Chris actually did a High Voltage, and further tries to take the show in Morning Zoo territory. Plus Jeff namedrops a Duke Ellington performance you should seek out.

Covid-19 wreaks havoc on the Wrestlemania card which is in the can. We don't spoil the matches but we do tell you who you won't be seeing. Also, week 2 of Brodie Lee and Matt Hardy, is a Boneyard a Graveyard. We tried taping this one via Zoom to get things out quicker, let us know the good and bad by DMing @ShakethemRopes

News on the death of Antonio Inoki broke as we went to air, so even though he might not be in our wheelhouse, we do have a nice discussion. After that we talk ticket sales and signings, then the LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM, a lot of talk on Jericho, the Saraya promo and all that was wrong about it, crowd shaming when its the company not doing its job, the body language of Yuta, the awesomeness of Bandido, and MORE! Plus, Jeff does the unthinkable and criticizes Aunt Pam.

This week: Chris makes the case that Revolution would have been more narratively satisfying if the main event ended at 60 minutes. Do the Bloodline story and the Hangman/Elite story have the same flaws? John Cena returns and cuts the most Rock-like promo, Dynamite had great promos and weak ending, and we ask if Lynyrd Skynyrd is the most misunderstood band in rock history.

This week, in the news, Vince McMahon gets a new lawsuit, in the LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM, we preview NXT Halloween Havoc, and in Vader Club: Roddy Piper vs. Mr. Perfect from Madison Square Garden 1990

Sponsored this week by MyBookie, visit http://mybookie.ag and use code ROPES to get up to 1000 matched on your first deposit. Also sponsored by MANSCAPED, use code "Ropes" to get 20 percent off and free shipping at http://manscaped.com. Mostly analysis of the week of both nights of NXT Takeover: Stand and Deliver and a palate cleanser in between reviewing NXT UK: Prelude. Chris rants about Baron Corbin and Jeff apologizes for his arcane references to the point we have a new bit now when Jeff goes totally 80's.

Chris and Jeff discuss missing Thanksgiving Night Wrestling, the passing of Bob Ryder, the news of the week and the builds into TLC and NXT Wargames.

Chris and Jeff talk a little Mauro Ranallo, Jeff gushes about NXT Women's War Games, we marvel at babyface Gallus and we ask the pressing question: is AEW becoming the Bonnaroo of wrestling. All of this while Jeff tries to watch Smackdown for a new puppet that never appears.  

MyBookie presents Shake Them Ropes, use code ROPES to get double your first deposit. COVID wrecks the WWE again, Andrew Yang opines on WWE business practices, and a preview of this weekend's Takeover, provided anyone can pass a physical.

This week: The return of Vince McMahon, Cody loses at WrestleMania, and a little bit on Butch Miller of the Sheepherders. The LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM is flooded.

Sexual misconduct allegations abound in wrestling this week. We do 45 minutes talking about #SpeakingOut, power dynamics, etc. Also, WWE and COVID-19. We even get to a little wrestling including Ricky Starks' debut, Backlash ice cold takes and the great week had by Aunt Pam and Sasha.

In the news Ricochet signs with AEW, in the LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM we preview all in and for Vader club: Kidman vs. Mikey Whipwreck from WCW Uncensored 1999

This week, we ask the question was the AEW sign about the women's division acknowledgment or an attempt to spike the football? Vince gets surgery, is he now Mecha-Vince? Then the LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM: NXT Great American Bash preview, AR Fox, Collision missteps, the endgame of Jericho and Callis and should L.A. Knight be getting pushed harder due to his reactions.

Chris and Jeff go through this week in WWE. Eric Bischoff is gone, others want out. Bayley's heel is off to a rough start, and what is the future of 205 Live considering neither of us remembered it was on.

Chris is back, Vince is out of creative, Sting is retiring eventually and all the news and the LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM including whatever we had time to watch this week. Plus: What would Shane McMahon's son's NXT name be?

This week the guys give an update on Big E, talk the Hall of Fame inductions of Sid and Vader, and other minor news. Then the LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM: Revolution, FTR/Tully, the Pat McAfee video and more! Plus, yes, we talk about Pete Dunne.

This week Netflix with little interest in the WWE archives, in the LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM sight gags and a rampage match for your major return and in VADER CLUB a first, a match Jeff doesn’t remember from December to Dismember, Ultimate Jeopardy and we’ll talk what ideas WWE should take from this for War Games.

We bounce around Q4 talk and the future of WWE's streaming, go a bit into NWA and AEW angles. Why does WWE give a big introduction to people who are going to lose? Jeff is looking forward to the XFL, and Mr. Chesterton won't shut up.

This week, in the news, our remembrances of Kevin Sullivan, in the LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM: ice cold takes on Summerslam and more, and for Vader Club: The Steiner Brothers vs. The Faces of Fear from Nitro 1997.

Shake Them Ropes this week Chris and Jeff talk the MLW lawsuit, Saudi Arabia, signings, and the rest of the news. Plus THE LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM: Impact Women, Chris Reads about Raw, storytelling in AEW, character development in NXT, the FTR/Briscoes twitter feud.

This week as Jeff tries to give an update of health, Chris gets his plugs in, and then we talk WWE signings and AEW goings. Then a long LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM: Cold takes on Forbidden Door, review of Blood and Guts, and a preview of Money in the Bank.

This week, yes, according to the ER people, Jeff could have died, but fortunately for some of you he didn't. We start with that and an update on his cancer. Then in the news: Stephanie Vaquer chooses WWE, in THE LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM: AEW does one of its best promos ever and it's not put on tv and in Vader Club: Rob Van Dam and Sabu vs Jinsei Shinzaki and Hayabusa from ECW 1998.

In the news: Nick Aldis and if either WWE or AEW is a better fit if either wants to sign him this time around. Then THE LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM: ICE COLD TAKES on Crown Jewel; promos from Iyo/Asuka, Xavier and MJF to the Saraya/Britt promo that did more harm than good. The ridiculous lack of telling a story in the Seth Rollins/Bobby Lashley/Austin Theory angle, the lack of planning for Full Gear. PLUS: Chris tells a Gallagher story.

This week, Chris and Jeff talk Janel Grant suspending her civil case, WBD and AEW bidding, expiring contracts and all the news of the week. Then, THE LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM: We briefly go through King and Queen of the Ring before getting to a long talk on Double or Nothing and Dynamite in terms of continuous storytelling as Jeff thinks there's a "booking the ppv to get to the free tv" issue. Then week 2 of our new feature, VADER CLUB: Scott Norton vs. Chris Benoit from a Thunder in 1998.

We talk about the passings of Terry Funk and Bray Wyatt and Jeff's journey to becoming a Terry Funk fan through JCP. Then THE LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM where we preview All In and a few quick hits on other WWE.

With the ratings going downhill, is wrestling outdated? What did they think of the Cross entrance on NXT. Also before the graps, a little bit of a discussion on Little Richard, the true king of rock n roll.

This week in the news, WWE doesn’t play nice with AEW again, in the LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM we talk heroes and villains and in Vader Club: Nov has selected Rick Martel vs. Jumbo Tsuruta for the AWA World Heavyweight Title

Main roster executives from WWE and NXT can't co-exist. Can either roster make a star? We look at what the merchandise sales tell us. AEW had a great week with the debut of Rampage which we talk a bit about. Also, a Shake Them Ropes Theatre attempt goes horribly wrong and Jeff gives his review of The Suicide Squad.

This week in the news: venue announcements in THE LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM, a discussion on Beta Male energy in wrestling, and in Vader Club: Chris has selectedFrom Slamboree 98: Ultimo Dragon vs. Eddie Guerrero

Hawkins goes solo as he talks Perry/Punk at All In, Cena back in WWE, the AOP on the roster and the women of Impact Wrestling. Then THE LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM: NXT then ICE COLD TAKES on All In and a preview of All Out and Payback.

Chris and Jeff are a little heavy into the critique of comedy wrestling. Drew Gulak re-signs, FTR debuts, and the Hockey Glass era of WWE begins. Also, is Chris taking being a cat dad too far.

This week Chris and Jeff talk Stephanie McMahon leaving, sales rumors, AEW House shows, FTR taking a break and Mercedes selling out San Jose. Then the LAZY RIVER of WRESTLING CRITICISM: Dynamite, Guillotine Leg Drops, Dominik Mysterio, and is MJF being too funny to be an effective heel? Plus, Jeff says "Like what you like" when it comes to graps.

Lots of post-mortem on the Rumble, a fun NXT and NXT UK, Jeff rants about radio row at the "Big Game" and promptly forgets to talk about the firing of George Barrios and Michelle Wilson

AEW goes open air empty arena, NXT goes clip show. On the main roster, Gronk and Austin don't rise to the occasion. But there were some gems: Otis, Daniel Bryan's vanity promotion, and of course Asuka being the best member of the commentary team. Plus we start with way too much Kenny Rogers talk.

This week the boys are talking ice told takes on Extreme Rules then a lot of Lazy River because there wasn't a lot of news. This week: Arn Anderson, WWE Draft, "That Guy" NXT 2.0, and Jungle Boy.

Paul Heyman goes through the out door while Bruce Prichard goes through the in door, EVOLVE may be extinct, and Backlash is Sunday. We do our ice cold takes on Takeover: IYH as well as preview the upcoming Backlash event on Sunday. 

This week the guys talk Tony Khan's Forbidden Door, Bret Hart re-signing with WWE, talent leaving WWE and AEW, new names, and a discussion of what is the point of NXT 2.0 if they aren't doing the mission statement? Then THE LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM: A discussion of hate in promos, and why WWE's characterization of babyfaces forces the issue to turn them heel; Jade vs. Marina; the randomness of NXT character choices, good comedy and bad promos in wrestling this week, and MORE!.

Sponsored by MYBOOKIE.AG, use code ROPES to get up to $1000 matched on your first deposit. Chris and Jeff detail the Bayley turn, the revelation that Lince Dorado has a gift for gab, and ask "Why does the Hunt own suits"

The guys cover the death of Jim Crockett Jr and NXT's probable move to Tuesday. Then we gush about the first hour of AEW including the Shaq tag match and Jeff turns 14 as he watches his hero Tully Blanchard. The fun stops after that as we cover the rest of the week that was including an abysmal RAW where every segment did nothing for the talent in it.

This week the boys talk all the news including Shinjiro Otani, the UK Stadium show, and Vince issues a memo about names. Then THE LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM: Week two of the Cody Rhodes story in WWE and Wheeler Yuta in AEW; is Marina Shafir the person to dethrone Jade after her debut on Wednesday; the greatness of the MJF/Dean match; did NXT lose sight of what made Cameron Grimes popular and much much more.

WWE has its most profitable year ever, we talk a little Butch Reed, and we deconstruct Beth Phoenix's commentary to the point we're now amused. Also, ice-cold Royal Rumble takes and we ask the question: Why would you kidnap someone no one wants back?

Sponsored by Manscaped this week (Use Code ROPES and get 20 percent off plus free shipping). We give a post-mortem on the Covid era, Chris hated NXT Takeover: In Your House as we give ice cold takes, and after a few things we liked and disliked on the shows of the week go into a Hell in A Cell preview. Plus, why did Jeff buy 250 dollars worth of bacon.

The computer ate the show for the week, so from the long dead patreon, in July 2019 Chris and I watched Crockett Cup 1986. Enjoy

This week: Collision is a go in Chicago, which means CM Punk...probably. Injuries abound in women's wrestling and our LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM involves all three shows we usually revolve around so we'll do previews of Double or Nothing, Battleground, and Night of Champions. Rest in Peace, Tina Turner

The boys talk Meat Loaf and his connection to the WWE, Sami Zayn re-signing, Mutilation, NXT Dress Codes, Gunther Stark and all the other news. Plus THE LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM! This week: Is this the least anticipated Rumble in memory/the lack of babyfaces in WWE, what the hell is worth watching in AEW, Lance Archer, Shawn Spears and Chris Reads About Raw!

In the news: Monday Night Raw goes to 2 hours, in THE LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM, ice cold takes on All Out and in Vader Club Masa Saito, Shinya Hashimoto & Koji Kitao vs. Big Van Vader, Crusher Bam Bam Bigelow & Steve Williams

Impact is now TNA again, Ric Flair is back onscreen again, and somehow Vince McMahon is Dana White's boss. Bad decisions abound as we talk all the news and the LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM including giving flowers to the NBeXT era, are they pivoting to "Laundry Wars" for Survivor Series instead of the smart story and so much more.

This week, post production in AEW going in a new direction, House Shows may be dead, and obnoxious in your advertising might be coming to WWE. Then THE LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM with a preview of NXT Deadline and a week where things existed.

Overall the wrestling was pretty good, but WWE makes some moves that step in it a bit with R-Truth, Mandy Rose and the Drake Maverick angle. We liked a lot in WWE, AEW and NXT. All hail Aunt Pam. Also we preview NXT Takeover: In Your House

STR Morning Zoo? Chris loves his Casio. We discuss a Renee Young's departure, THUNDERDOME, and NXT Public Relations before previewing Summerslam and NXT Takeover XXX

This week: in the news, WWE expands its minor leagues, in THE LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM, ice cold takes on Halloween Havoc and Crown Jewel and in Vader Club: the Brain Busters vs. The Rockers from MSG in January 1989.

Chris and Jeff talk the aftermath of the WWE Draft, KOTR, the death of Reggie Parks, ex-WWE talent's new ventures plus THE LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM: Serena Deeb, Daniel Garcia/CM Punk, Becky Lynch, Noam Dar, Tony D'Angelo, Lio Rush and more! Sponsored this week by MyBookie (http://MyBookie.AG) use code ROPES to double your deposit 

This week, the deaths of Sika and Jamie Kellner, Indiana is all in on WWE and more news, then in THE LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM: Forbidden Door preview and whatever comes to mind from WWE and NXT. Plus on this week's Vader Club: Toshiaki Kawada vs. Gary Albright

This week we talk a bit about Val Kilmer and do the news and THE LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM where we preview AEW Dynasty and a bit of NXT. No Vader Club, we'll get back to that next week.

This week, in the news: AEW gets their renewal, in THE LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM, Bad Blood is previewed and in Vader Club it's The Steiners vs. Fire and Ice from Great American Bash 1996. Nov is moving so joining Jeff is his former tag team partner Mr. Warren Hayes ( http://youtube.com/MrWarrenHayes )

MyBookie presents Shake Them Ropes, use code ROPES to get double your first deposit. The women across the NXT brands have a great week, we talk about Vince McMahon's short sighted views on talent's outside interests and we preview Laundry Wars 2020 aka Survivor Series.

Jeff's car was stolen (and found), but he and Chris muscle through the week in news, end with a Revolution preview where we ask the questions about AEW growing popularity. In between a LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM that includes: the Moist Wrestling League?

Shake Them Ropes this week Chris ( https://twitter.com/dwatg ) and Jeff ( https://twitter.com/Crapgame13 ) are a bit amped and are spitting fire on Tony Nese's AEW debut, the news of the week, preview on NXT War Games plus THE LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM: WWE's self referential promos, Adam Page/Bryan Danielson, MJF/CM Punk and more.

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This week the boys talk the news of the week, Survivor Series "fallout," plus THE LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM: Pat McAfee, MJF/Punk, Chris being done with NXT UK, the women's champs on both brands in WWE, Danielson/Cabana, Cody Rhodes, and what the hell are they doing to build War Games and more.

This week: Vince officially steps down...again. Johnny Ace throws himself on the mercy of the court of public opinion and CM Punk is hurt...again. Then on THE LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM: ICE COLD TAKES on the Royal Rumble, a preview of Vengeance Day, and Jeff's other co-host may have deconstructed every Dynamite match to the point Jeff can't unsee it.

Plus: Don't go to grocery stores, go to restaurant supply warehouses.

This week in the news, WWE and AEW arena battles, in the LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM Smackdown doing the basics that Dynamite can’t seem to find and in Vader Club: Don Frye vs. Brian Johnston from NJPW 2000

We enjoyed Collision and were a bit dour on Dynamite. THE LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM must flow because the children you were promised last week aren't on this week, and we explain why on that too.

This week: Punk wants back in, Vince pays the price of admission, Goldberg is a free agent and more in news. Then the LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM: Should Chris have to Google a main eventer? Did they finally figure out how to build Jade? What was that NXT show? All of that and more.

Chris and Jeff ask if the Fiend is really over or was it just expectations, Jeff guides you through the Road to Wrestlemania as it pertains to the Saudi Arabia show in addition to reviewing NXT, NXT UK and talking general WWE events.

RAW Underground! Antifa by way of Retribution! Pat McAfee wrestling a NXT Champion! Minivans! I mean, what's not to be excited about? We grind through the week with our light hearted look at this ridiculous business.

We talk a little Neil Peart, the strange characterization of Drew McIntyre and lazy storytelling of this week's NXT and the dreadful AEW. Plus a bit of Brock and a preview of NXT UK Takeover Colon Blackpool II

This week, in the news: Janel Grant motions in THE LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM, ice cold Bad Blood takes and a preview of Wrestle Dream and in VADER CLUB Steven Regal and Ultimo Dragon from Slamboree 97

This week Jeff starts by trying to teach Chris about Judy Tenuta. Then we talk about the death of Sara Lee, Rob Fee's hiring, Sammy and Andrade, WWE's new broadcast teams, Dan Lambert, Big Time Wrestling's Thanksgiving weekend, Gable Steveson and Bobby Fish's boxing debut. Then, THE LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM: Extreme Rules preview (and the fear of overbooking), Braun Stroman, outlining a wrestling show, the need to protect pure babyfaces, Ring Of Honor as Earth 2 AEW and MORE! Plus, Alexa (not Bliss) does a run in.

This week in the news, Tanahashi calls it a career...eventually, in THE LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM-- ice cold takes on Wrestle Dream and all the weekly tv and on Vader Club, The Steiner Brothers vs. Doom from Capital Combat 1990

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Shake Them Ropes this week Chris ( https://twitter.com/dwatg ) and Jeff ( https://twitter.com/Crapgame13 ) talk the hell of updating your computer, Jeff Hardy being fired, the death of Blackjack Lanza and the rest of the news of the week, ICE COLD TAKES on NXT War Games. Plus THE LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM, this week: tag ropes, Danielson/Page, Dante Martin's one week heel turn, Liv Morgan, and Toni Storm/Charlotte.

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Everyone's doing big numbers. What did we think of Collision: What did it do well? What was missing? Then, THE LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM: Forbidden Door preview, Mustafa Ali, The Bloodline, and more!

Sponsored this week by Manscaped, use code SHAKEROPES to get 20 percent off and free shipping at http://manscaped.com this week Chris and Jeff ponder the aftermath of Saudi Arabia, heel/face dynamics when it comes to Angel Garza and gush over Raul Mendoza. Why isn't the Bayley heel turn working? Are invasion angles effective?   

This week Chris and Jeff talk the bliss of AEW Grand Slam, the sad decline of Ric Flair, the ambivalence of WWE Extreme Rules, plus THE LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM: New Day, Cody Rhodes, Britt Baker, Nathan Fraser, Montez Ford

Chris and Jeff are back and there's plenty of news-- the deaths of Bobby Eaton and Jody Hamilton, The Fiend and Flair let go from WWE, 2.0 in AEW. It's now officially a war to the guys, and we talk through cringey promos and comedy this week.

The Elite re-sign with AEW, the Feds are looking into Vince, then THE LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM: ICE COLD TAKES on the Great American Bash, a SummerSlam preview, both AEW shows were strong and Chris for some reason watched NXT twice.

This week a supersized show, in the news Vince McMahon's team leaks a love letter, AEW cuts some talent, Punk and Cody go on Ariel Helwani, Ronda Rousey metoos Drew Gulak. Then THE LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM: a very weird AEW Dynamite, we analyze almost the whole thing and we then preview NXT: Stand and Deliver and both nights of Wrestlemania. Also, plenty of jokes about the movie Predator.

Lots of graps. This week the boys talk Bobby Fish gone from AEW and a few other stories then it's previews previews previews on THE LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM: Clash at the Castle, Worlds Collide and All Out. All the matches and anything we noticed on the go homes.

We asked for questions and got a couple wrestling and mostly not. Takes on music, movies, AEW along with a double Vader Club: Midnight Express vs. Fantastics from WCCW's Parade of Stars II and Shibata vs. Ishii from the G1 2013

Memorial Day weekend had three big shows for the stateside companies, and all of them had pretty good and stuff that wasn't so good. That's pretty much the show this week on the LAZY RIVER OF WRESTLING CRITICISM. Plus we ponder, should CM Punk be the top heel on his brand?