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26 Jun 2019159: How to Diagnose a Brand by Mark Ritson00:47:00

This week on the “Marketing Today” podcast, Alan talks with Mark Ritson, adjunct professor of marketing at the Melbourne Business School, who also runs the Mini MBA in marketing program in collaboration with Marketing Week, and writes for Marketing Week as well. Ritson has worked globally as a private marketing consultant for esteemed clients like Baxter, Loewe, McKinsey, PepsiCo, Subaru, Eli Lilly, Donna Karan, Westpac, Shiseido, Flight Centre, Johnson & Johnson, De Beers, Sephora, Benefit, Amgen, Ericsson, Jurlique, Cloudy Bay, Unilever, KPMG and WD40. If that wasn’t enough powerful impact, Mark Ritson also spent 13 years as the in-house professor for LVMH, the world's largest luxury group that handles brands like Louis Vuitton, Dom Perignon, and Hennessy.

Ritson uses his enriched wealth of information and his sharp sense of humor to talk about how he has actually incorporated Marketing Today itself into the Mini MBA program, but with one missing piece ­– the often misunderstood industry topic of brand diagnosis. If you are a fan of the Effie Awards like Alan Hart and Mark Ritson are, you will enjoy hearing what Ritson has learned during the course of his extensive Effie research. Also, find out why Mark Ritson is getting really excited about the idea of “post-digital marketing,” and why Mark feels you are currently listening to the best marketing podcast in the world. 

Ritson shares his valuable brand understanding: “You have to go to the place where the brand was born,” says Ritson. “You split up brand management into three distinct slices, the first part diagnosis, the next strategy, the final part tactics.” Ritson goes on to say, “Target customers really want purpose.” 

Highlights from this “Marketing Today” conversation include:

  • Mark Ritson shares what he has been working on with Marketing Today. (01:58)
  • How should people go about diagnosing their brand? (04:44)
  • Mark shares his take on social listening with Twitter as an example. (09:40)
  • Why is it so hard to get CMOs to talk about how to manage brands? (11:25)
  • After brand diagnosis, should the next step be positioning the brand or defining its core purpose? (13:49)
  • Brands can support a multitude of causes while also turning a profit. (16:55)
  • Purpose watching is, unfortunately, being used as a smokescreen by some companies that aren’t living up to their claimed behavior. (19:58)
  • What has Mark learned from his research about the Effie Awards? (22:21)
  • What is the difference between distinctiveness and differentiation? (25:47)
  • The biggest ROI factor is that you already have scale. (27:37)
  • Why aren’t we discussing whether media quality is any good or not? (28:55)
  • Why is Mark Ritson so excited about “post-digital marketing?” (30:54)
  • Has there been an experience in Mark’s past that made him who he is today? (34:07)
  • Is there any advice that Mark would give to his younger self? (37:03)
  • What is the most absurd thing that Mark is thinking about now? (37:56)
  • Where does Mark get most of his information? (41:34)
  • Is there an opportunity that marketers should be capitalizing on right now? (42:57)




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13 Apr 2022307: Prioritizing Ad Privacy with Google’s David Temkin00:27:25

David Temkin is the Director of Product Management, Ads Privacy, and User Trust at Google. He leads the product management team responsible for ads privacy. His team is focused on delivering privacy-first monetization product changes that are driven by the changing regulatory environment. They are also responsible for transparency control for ads all across Google's ad business.

On the show today, Alan and David talk about his role and what privacy and the combination of privacy and trust mean. Later, David shares his thoughts on how marketers should be thinking about ads privacy and what we need to do to get consumers on board in understanding its importance. At the end they also discuss the removal of third-party cookies and what it means for effectively deploying ad campaigns.

Listen in to learn more.

In this episode, you'll learn:

  • What businesses should prioritize when it comes to privacy
  • Why marketers can convince their organization to prioritize privacy
  • Getting consumers to take privacy seriously

Key Highlights

[01:33] David's journalism career

[02:54] Understanding David's role

[04:34] What to prioritize with privacy

[06:37] Consumer trust with social media

[08:52] Convincing your business to prioritize user privacy

[10:19] Getting consumers to take privacy seriously

[12:45] How Google builds transparency and choice into its ad products

[14:56] The removal of third-party cookies

[18:20] Advice for marketers in a cookie-less world

[20:54] An experience that defines David

[23:42] David's advice for his younger self

[24:15] What marketers should be learning more about

[25:29] The biggest threat and opportunity for marketers

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11 May 2022311: How to Skyrocket Your Social Growth with Banfield Pet Hospital’s Lisa Stockmon00:20:50

Lisa Stockmon is the Chief Marketing Officer at Banfield Pet Hospitals. Lisa leads the development and execution of Banfield's innovative integrated marketing strategy, ensuring it supports the organization's strategic vision, aligns with its purpose, and drives revenue.

In this episode Alan and Lisa discuss what led to Banfield's recent 400% growth in social followers and 104% increase in content interaction on Instagram. Lisa also shares the role curiosity has played in successfully engaging Gen Z in her marketing strategy.

Listen to learn how to adapt to the shifting market and skyrocket your social growth.

In this episode, you'll learn:

  • Ways the pandemic has changed brands' customer bases
  • How to strategically leverage influencer marketing on social media
  • The importance of open-mindedness and curiosity in marketing

Key Highlights

  • [01:00] Lisa's career journey and passion project
  • [07:00] Banfield's “b here” marketing strategy
  • [09:00] Reaching new demographics of pet owners
  • [15:00] Strategically leveraging influencers on social media
  • [17:00] Experiences that define Lisa
  • [19:00] Lisa's advice for her younger self
  • [20:00] What marketers should be learning more about
  • [23:00] The biggest opportunity for marketers today

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14 Jun 201747: 12 years and counting: Aon CMO Phil Clement is on a long run00:39:30

Phil Clement is the global CMO for Aon, the leading global provider of risk management, insurance and reinsurance brokerage, and human resource solutions. He's a rare breed: he's been CMO at Aon for more than 12 years — a position with an average tenure of only 23 months. He attributes his longevity to utilizing a consultant's approach in getting people to buy in on ideas and projects and understanding that, as CMO, you are a member of the C-suite team — you can't have a strategy that is divorced or disconnected from the company vision and team alignment.

One key for Clement in leading branding efforts on a global scale is to let the "local jazz" come through when interpreting the "sheet music" of the brand instead of strictly adhering to brand standards: "The essence of brands translates, but it won't always translate in the same exact manner." 

He also believes listening is critical in understanding the operational differences among cultures. "You can't spend enough time listening…and the bigger you get, the more important it gets." He goes on to caution, "And unfortunately, it becomes more tempting not to [listen], because it just takes so much time."

Highlights from this week's “Marketing Today” podcast include:

  • A shelf life with no expiration date? Clement's 12-year run as CMO is nothing short of amazing. (1:35)
  • It's a pretty big deal: Communicating the essence of a global brand across languages and cultures. (7:39) 
  • Organizing effective marketing: Clement discusses the geography of Aon's marketing offering. (14:42)
  • Embracing fluidity in your marketing objectives: “It's a great thing to get comfortable with.” (17:02)
  • What's that on your shirt? The sports marketing story of Manchester United and Aon. (21:03)
  • Mergers and acquisitions: An underestimated part of marketing mixes. (27:56)
  • The future of marketing will be more about problem solving: “As your mix changes, as your needs change, so will your solutions.” (35:57)

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30 Oct 2019177: Ad Fraud Myths and Misconceptions with Augustine Fou00:53:20

During this episode of “Marketing Today,” host Alan Hart interviews Dr. Augustine Fou, who is an industry-recognized thought leader in digital strategy and integrated marketing and an ad fraud researcher and auditor for several companies and publishers around the world. He's had 20 years of management consulting experience creating and optimizing marketing strategies across traditional and digital channels.

Fou shares the many myths and misconceptions that marketers have about ad fraud. We tackle some questions like: If you have ad fraud detection, are you safe? Shouldn't I be immune if I'm only paying for performance? And, why don't we hear more from industry trade groups?

Fou helps to define and categorize ad fraud. He walks us through the various ways that fraud occurs. He shares the limited capability of bot detection companies, which are just looking for invalid traffic (IVT), and how the algorithms are not tuned for anything else. Marketers need to know that whatever you are paying on [click, conversion, etc.] is the specific thing the "bad guys" are going to fake. Fou gives us some fantastic tips on how to combat the pervasive fraud throughout the industry.

Highlights from this week's “Marketing Today”:

  • How we define Ad Fraud. 02:41
  • Categorization of Fraud 05:11
  • Limitations of Bot-detection companies and quick ways to detect other types of fraud. 08:43
  • Fou's thoughts on estimates of fraud occurring currently in the industry. 10:38
  • A discussion on "Asymmetric Warfare." 13:21
  • Question 1: I've got fraud detection in place, am I not safe? 17:33
  • Question 2: I only pay for performance, so I must be immune to ad fraud. 21:39
  • An interesting study looking across 800 mobile exchanges. 22:46
  • An Example: the Uber lawsuit. 23:49
  • The key lesson for marketers to know and examples of loopholes. 24:39
  • The importance of looking at your data and not relying on industry trades alone. 29:03
  • A discussion on certifications and accreditations. 30:37
  • The importance of auditing. 31:54
  • What are the multi-million dollar detection companies not seeing, and why? 35:05
  • What should marketers be doing to combat fraud? 40:54
  • What does the world look like without ad fraud? 44:39

 

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02 Oct 2019173: Merging Art and Science with Dara Treseder at Carbon00:32:43

During this episode of “Marketing Today,” host Alan Hart interviews Dara Treseder, Chief Marketing Officer at Carbon. Before Carbon, Treseder was the CMO at GE Ventures, which is GE's corporate venture capital arm and GE's business innovations, focused on new business creation and new marketing development and technology licensing. Before GE, Treseder led various marketing efforts at Apple and Goldman Sachs. Today on the show, the discussion with Treseder revolves around her current role at Carbon, her Nigerian roots, as well as insightful lessons and mentors she has had, along with marketing and product developments. 

Dara explains what Carbon is, which is the world's leading digital manufacturing platform, helping companies accelerate product innovation. She talks about the three key things that were critical during her entrance into Carbon: elevating Carbon as a brand, having people understand who Carbon is/what they do/why it matters, help drive growth and make sure the marketing and communication are set up for success. She also shares how Carbon uses technology and innovation to protect football players and how they marketed this idea during a Super Bowl.

What made Treseder such an excellent fit for Carbon? She says, “at the core of who I am, I am an analytical thinker. But I am also a true creative. I love marrying art and science. And I think, you know for the future of marketing, that is what it is all about.” Treseder discusses things that Carbon does to impact the marketplace, “it is all about how can you use data and technology to reach people and how can you communicate and connect with people in a way that truly resonates with them.” What does it take to be as innovative as Carbon has consistently? “The only way you can really create these breakthrough products is innovation across those three elements: the software that you use to design, the hardware that you use to make it, and the material from which the product is actually made.”

Highlights from this week's “Marketing Today”:

  • What does Dara miss the most about Nigeria, and what is her favorite food? (01:40)
  • Where did Dara start her career? (04:06)
  • What was her charter as she was coming into Carbon? (06:50)
  • What exactly is Carbon and when was it founded? (07:35)
  • Dara talks about her past start-up and what a ‘fat start-up' is? (08:37)
  • What drew Dara to Carbon itself? (10:40)
  • How are partnerships driving Carbon's business? (12:33)
  • How did Dara turn around a Super Bowl in early February so quickly after just joining in December? (15:10)
  • Dara discusses a new Carbon bike saddle that they are crafting. (20:31)
  • Is there an experience in Dara's life that has defined who she is today? (22:39)
  • What advice would she give to her younger self? (27:00)
  • What fuels Dara Treseder to keep going in his career and life? (27:43)
  • Are there brands that she thinks we should pay attention to? (29:11)
  • Where does Dara see the future of marketing going? (30:32)


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16 Sep 2020225: Recipe for Brand Refresh with King Arthur Baking's Bill Tine00:34:09

On this 225th episode of "Marketing Today," host Alan Hart interviews Bill Tine, the vice president of marketing at King Arthur Baking Company.

On the show today, we talk about Tine's refresh of King Arthur Baking's brand, including the process and research that went into the refresh. We also discuss the impact of the current months on his business and the explosive growth that they've had.

We start this episode by talking about some of Tine's favorite recipes. We then dive into our discussion about King Arthur's rebrand, which emphasizes their identity as a baking company. Tine shares insights from the rebranding process, including what they learned from consumer research and the value of their core team. Then we learn about how King Arthur has experienced significant growth during the pandemic. Reflecting on this moment, Tine says, "Baking has become at times a new national pastime." He shares how the company keeps its audience engaged. He says, "It's really the core of our approach that we want to help and inspire." He talks about the importance of building your audience so that you can reach out directly to your consumer. This discussion highlights how a company with a long history can rebrand effectively.

 

Highlights from this week's "Marketing Today":

  • Bill's favorite recipe. 01:24
  • Bill's path to King Arthur. 02:13
  • King Arthur's name change and a new identity. 04:09
  • Rebranding while staying true to a long heritage. 05:30
  • The rebranding process and insights along the way. 07:05
  • The consumer research that went into the rebrand. 08:41
  • Insights from consumer research. 09:50
  • The effect of stay-at-home orders on their business. 12:41
  • Ways they had to adapt to react to shifts and demands. 15:09
  • Engaging with customers on their baker's helpline and beyond. 17:21
  • Focusing on driving category growth. 20:28
  • Advice for marketers who want to engage customers during this challenging time. 22:11
  • Bill reflects on an impactful experience. 23:28
  • Bill reflects on advice he would give to his younger self. 26:45
  • Bill shares about an impactful purchase he made in the last 6-12 months. 27:59
  • Are there any brands, companies, or causes that Bill follows that he thinks other people should take notice of? 29:21
  • Bill's take on the top opportunity and threat facing marketers today. 31:45




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25 Jan 201730: Seth Kaufman focuses on culture and team to create success at PepsiCo00:41:53

Seth Kaufman's career traces a steady and seemingly unstoppable ascent at PepsiCo. As an intern, he fell in love with the people, the brands and the culture before taking on (and conquering) challenge after challenge, including brand and innovation initiatives, developing channels strategies in sales, and frontline field work on the snack side — where he embraced and developed his strength as a people leader.

Following his work in the field, he returned to headquarters, rebuilding PepsiCo's media offering in beverages and then running the namesake brand itself. From there, he assumed his current role as CMO PepsiCo North America Beverages.

Seth's enthusiasm, empathy, passion, and appreciation for the people around him shine through in this wide-ranging and freewheeling podcast.

Highlights from this week's “Marketing Today” podcast include:

  • Accelerating PepsiCo's transformation journey across three dimensions: portfolio, marketing and talent. (4:55)
  • The marketing perfect storm: From PepsiMoji to “Empire” product integration and Kola House. (12:36)
  • Pepsi Zero Sugar (and Lady Gaga) take center stage at the Super Bowl. (17:52)
  • Investing in talent — both inside and outside the organization — to cultivate business success. (22:02)
  • The Big Climb: Staying focused leads to team success. (29:05)
  • Taking risks: the agility and vision of big brands like Samsung, Tesla and the NBA. (32:49)

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07 Mar 201885: Susan Vobejda finds a home at The Trade Desk00:31:25

This week on “Marketing Today,” Alan talks with Susan Vobejda, chief marketing officer at The Trade Desk, the fastest-growing demand-side platform (DSP) agencies, aggregators, and their advertisers can use to manage their digital campaigns.

Vobejda's career started in finance, but she quickly made the leap to advertising — confessing that advertising seemed so cool to her that she thought it was something she would do without getting paid — beginning at Leo Burnett as an account supervisor. From there, she moved on to stops at Gap Inc., Walmart, Bloomberg, and Tory Burch, among others, before landing in her current role at The Trade Desk.

During the course of her conversation with Alan, Vobejda touches on many topics, but perhaps most interesting was her discovery of just how special the people and culture at The Trade Desk are.

She and her team were in Ventura, California, for a planning session in December of 2017. While there, they were forced to flee from the Thomas Fire, the largest wildfire in modern California history. She relates how her team — with help from others at The Trade Desk via the company Slack — pulled together to find their way out of the affected area. She describes it as “a tribe in action,” and goes on to say, “It has bonded me to this group of people in a way that I could never have expected.”

Highlights from this week's “Marketing Today” podcast include: 

  • Vobejda traces her career path from the world of finance to CMO of The Trade Desk: “A crazy spiderweb career.” (1:17)
  • Making a list: What led Vobejda to The Trade Desk. (3:34)
  • Vobejda on team building: Prioritize talent and build for succession. (8:15)
  • Vobejda: “Data and technology are tools for marketers that they can use in unprecedented ways to reach and engage customers.” (11:51)
  • Vobejda's take on programmatic. (13:48)
  • Vobejda talks about an experience during her first three months at The Trade Desk — literally a trial by fire. (17:24)
  • “It's all about the customer” — Vobejda examines the common truths across the industries she's worked in. (22:24)
  • Vobejda's leap from finance to advertising and the lesson it taught her: “You can make anything happen.” (23:39)

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31 Jan 201731: U.S. Olympic Committee CMO Lisa Baird is in it for the long run00:29:31

Lisa Baird was named CMO of the United States Olympic Committee in 2009. Prior to that, she served in brand and marketing roles for Proctor & Gamble, GM, IBM and the NFL, among others. 

With the Olympic Games occurring years apart, Lisa touches on how she maintains focus on long-term marketing goals: “The better and more articulate and more precise your mission and your purpose is — that needs to act as your long-term guide, says Baird. “You should measure everything you do against ‘Are you fulfilling that mission and purpose?' … Putting the right measurements in place for the long term help you to keep that true north on your compass.”

But even though her goals invariably seem to reside on a distant horizon, she avoids the predictive, instead focusing on something she believes will remain constant: “Marketers who always focus on their customers' or their stakeholders' problems — and listen to them and solve their problems — will always win.”

Highlights from this week's “Marketing Today” podcast include:

  • Managing the balancing act of athletes trying to make a living and Olympic sponsors who make things run: Baird talks about IOC Rule 40. (4:47)
  • Keeping the flame alive: Maintaining focus on the Olympics during off years. (7:58)
  • Who'll win the Olympic jump ball for 2024: Los Angeles, Budapest or Paris? (10:11)
  • Trying to please everyone: The art of listening in a sea of stakeholders. (11:49)
  • Going for gold: Measuring marketing success in the land of not-for-profit. (14:42)
  • Baird discusses sponsor and license partnerships and their role in helping the U.S. reach the medal podium. (16:20)
  • You can't always rely on metrics: “Human beings are spontaneous; they can surprise you.” (23:15)

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09 Sep 2020224: C-suite Leadership with Coupa Software CMO Chandar Pattabhiram00:32:05

During this 224th episode of “Marketing Today,” host Alan Hart interviews Chandar Pattabhiram, the chief marketing officer at Coupa Software.

On the show today, we talk about the shift Pattabhiram is making in his marketing across strategy and programs. He defines 4 Ps around positioning, posture, programs, and people. We dive into each of those components. We also talk about C-suite leadership and how CMOs should be thinking about the role.

Pattabhiram begins by introducing us to Coupa Software, which is a platform to manage business spend. We then talk about Pattabhiram's approach to marketing in the current climate; he says, "if you can operate in that mix of thoughtfulness and hustle, then you can respond to these situations that are in front of us." Then Pattabhiram shares his 4 Ps and talks about creating an advocacy flip, where they're showcasing their customers' resilience. He says, "You can only showcase your brand by showcasing your community." Then we discuss how to be an effective C-suite leader. Pattabhiram tells us about Coupa's inverted org chart and the importance of supporting employees. This discussion provides a new take on how CMOs can pivot thoughtfully in uncertain times.

Highlights from this week's “Marketing Today”:

  • Chandar's path to becoming CMO at Coupa. 01:45
  • All about Coupa Software. 03:25
  • Chandar's approach to adapting marketing in 2020. 05:35
  • Chandar's thoughts on posture. 07:22
  • The people component of the 4 Ps. 09:36
  • The results of these big pivots so far. 11:46
  • How to be an effective C-suite leader. 13:02
  • Key CMO functions and core responsibilities. 17:05
  • Metrics CMOs should be focusing on. 19:01
  • Chandar shares a defining experience. 21:21
  • Chandar reflects on advice he would give to his younger self. 22:40
  • Chandar shares about an impactful purchase he made in the last 6-12 months. 24:02
  • Are there any brands, companies, or causes that Chandar follows that he thinks other people should take notice of? 26:38
  • Chandar's take on the top opportunity and threat facing marketers today. 28:53

 

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30 Sep 2020227: Design, VC, and Business with Frog President Andy Zimmerman00:38:25

In this 227th episode of "Marketing Today," host Alan Hart interviews Andy Zimmerman, president of Frog, a company that assists leading businesses in designing, engineering, and bringing meaningful products to market.

Zimmerman began his career as a writer traveling with the circus around Europe. "Life is just a circus," he says whenever someone asks him about his past. He likes to think of himself as a storyteller, inspiring clients to try new things and put themselves out there. Zimmerman believes it's essential to "make functional designs but also designs that touch people at an emotional level." We talk about how Frog has spearheaded HBO Max's creation, pushing to create a social platform that is "a combination of Spotify and Netflix." He then talks about how the experience industry has begun to blend and where that takes the industry in a future that includes COVID. "To be a leader, you need to show your vulnerability so that other people feel comfortable to show theirs," and Zimmerman tries to keep that in mind as he leads Frog into a new world!

Highlights from this week's "Marketing Today":

  • Andy traveled with the circus as an aspiring writer and novelist. 1:28
  • Having such a wide array of experiences has given Andy unique opportunities. 4:02
  • Andy has always fallen into the next new thing. 4:59
  • The fascinating 50-year history of Frog. 6:28
  • How the founder of Frog came to design for Steve Jobs and Apple. 8:15
  • Frog has been able to have a massive impact on the world while staying relatively small. 9:45
  • Creating HBO max and all the challenges that came with it. 10:15
  • HBO Max has added a social element to movie platforms. 11:20
  • Aligning with Tuesday Capital has been a mutually beneficial relationship. 12:45
  • Frog has been successful at separating themselves from their competition. 15:38
  • Service providers have begun to blend for multiple reasons. 17:53
  • Design touchpoints are beginning to blur. 20:10
  • COVID has led a massive push to digital and ARVR. 21:20
  • Definitions of on-site and off-site are beginning to change. 22:55
  • Andy had an experience that led to his spiritual awakening. 24:12
  • A casual conversation sparked Andy's search for spiritual insight. 25:30
  • How religion as a child can shape your beliefs later in life. 27:15
  • Don't ever lose who you are as you grow older. 28:50
  • Spotify has been the most impactful purchase for Andy this year. 29:45
  • Companies that are working to decrease the carbon footprint deserve credit. 31:23
  • Bellwether brings an eco-efficient solution to coffee-making that helps 3rd-world farmers. 32:50
  • The trend of digital dominance is threatening the world of digital marketers. 34:07
  • Discovery challenges that await the retail industry in the future. 36:59




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10 Jul 2019161: Pritchard and Helias on Global Sustainability at Procter & Gamble00:44:16

This week on “Marketing Today,” host Alan Hart shares a two-part interview with Marc Pritchard, Chief Brand Officer, and Virginie Helias, Chief Sustainability Officer at Procter & Gamble (P&G). Pritchard, who has worked at P&G for an impressive 37 years in multiple capacities, talks about the business justification for sustainability on the heels of the Sustainable Brands Summit in Detroit. Helias also has an amazing 31-year career thus far at P&G, and she discusses programs that deal with sustainability being spread across the company worldwide.

Pritchard talks about a new initiative called Brands for Good, the importance of using the voice of companies and brands as a force for good, particularly with the Brands For Good initiative, and even a personal story of how he came to understand how businesses carry a huge responsibility to the world. Helias talks about the Ambition 2030 program at P&G, the company's work with the World Wildlife Fund's new resource plastic initiative, how P&G has started the Loop pilot program to replace disposable packaging with waste-free packaging, and working towards having no P&G waste winding up in the ocean.

Pritchard talks about the power of brands and companies become socially and environmentally responsible by saying, “What I found is that when companies and brands come together and focus on a common mission, what it allows them to do is hold each other accountable, share best practices, find ways to challenge each other to innovate and it drives much more collective action.” Pritchard shared some interesting statistics about consumers and the brands they choose, “9 out of 10 consumers say they have a more positive image of a company or a brand when it supports a social or an environmental cause. More than half say they make purchase decisions based on shares beliefs with brands.” Helias gives us an immediate way of washing we can all help the environment, “The biggest environmental impact based on life cycle assessment is really the temperature washing machine. It is 80% of the carbon footprint.” Virginie tells us about the goal of Ambition 2030 as being, “Really, what we want to do by 2030 is reinvent the model of consumption.” 

Highlights from this week's “Marketing Today”:

  • How does Marc Pritchard think about the Sustainable Brands Summit compared to other conferences he has attended? (01:27)
  • What is the Brands For Good coalition about? (02:34)
  • What did Marc learn from the research that drove why they are getting involved in sustainability? (04:35)
  • Who are the other companies that are joined P&G in Brands For Good? (07:45)
  • What makes Brands For Good different from what other brands and companies are doing? (10:27)
  • Are there any experiences in Marc's past that have helped define who he is today? (16:02)
  • What advice would Marc Pritchard give to his younger self? (18:42)
  • What does Marc Pritchard feel is the future of marketing? (20:24)
  • Virginie Helias introduces herself. (22:53)
  • Virginie Helias talks about her role in sustainability at P&G. (23:20:)
  • What is the World Wildlife Fund's new resource plastic initiative? (28:11)
  • What is involved in the Loop pilot program to replace disposable packaging with waste-free packaging? (31:16)
  • What is the end goal of Ambition 2030? (35:52)
  • What are the top priorities of a brand leader to make an impact in sustainability? (37:47)


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27 May 2020209: NerdWallet Brand, Measurement, and Insights with CMO Kelly Gillease00:43:47

During this 209th episode of “Marketing Today,” host Alan Hart interviews Kelly Gillease, chief marketing officer at NerdWallet.

Today, we talk a lot about Gillease's experience, which spans about twenty years in startups, travel, EdTech, and search, as well as supporting some of the acquisitions of those startups. We also talk about NerdWallet's venture into using big mass media advertising like TV and brand-building efforts and how she did that. We also highlight Gillease's background and some of the unique things that she's done in her life and her dual degree in both English and economics from UC Berkeley.

Gillease discusses how addressing the public's lack of trust in personal finance companies is a big challenge for Fintech. Providing the best financial advice to establish that trust is how NerdWallet approached mass marketing. Gillease notes the drawbacks of performance marketing when she says, “performance marketing is really limited by demand for the category.” As Gillease shares what her team learned from the research that went into the "Money Talks" campaign, she reflects, "Everybody at different income levels, whether you're well off or just barely making it, gets upset about money." Understanding that emotional connection is essential to the NerdWallet brand, which emphasizes optimism. This interview highlights Gillease's commitment to positive, impactful marketing that helps people address their everyday problems. 

Highlights from this week's “Marketing Today”:

  • The American Crossword Puzzle Tournament. 01:21
  • Kelly's double degree in English and Economics. 04:37
  • The initial challenges of her job when she joined NerdWallet. 07:07
  • Kelly's experience with mass media advertising. 10:11
  • How Kelly's team approached mass marketing. 13:39
  • The impact brand efforts had on their business. 15:34
  • The “Turn to the Nerds” campaign. 19:39
  • The learning plan around the “Money Talks” campaign. 22:40
  • The research behind the “Money Talks” campaign. 26:32
  • NerdWallet's response to coronavirus. 28:29
  • Is there an experience in her past that defines who she is today? 31:51
  • What is the advice Kelly would give to her younger self? 33:26
  • The most impactful purchase she has made in the last 6-12 months of $100 or less. 36:53
  • Are there any brands, companies, or causes that Kelly follows that she thinks other people should take notice of? 38:29
  • Kelly's take on the top opportunities or threats facing marketers today. 41:15


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18 Nov 201516: Corporate Boards, Future CMOs and Impact on Company Performance00:17:09

Part 1 with Kimberly Whitler, Forbes contributor and Assistant Marketing Professor at the University of Virginia Darden School of Business, sat down with Alan Hart to discuss her recent research looking at company performance, corporate board composition and the CMO. Did you know purely analytical CMOs are correlated to poor company performance? Did you know that marketing experience on the board can increase company performance? Find out what you need to know in this episode of the Marketing Today Podcast.

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28 Jun 201749: The Onion’s Head of Marketing Joe Fullman: Playing it for laughs — seriously00:42:59

Joe Fullman has taken a self-described “eclectic” route to become head of marketing for The Onion and its other properties, including ClickHole and The A.V. Club, and overseeing other enterprises like the Onion Reach Network and Onion Labs. But perhaps most interestingly, it was his failure to get a job selling children's shoes that led to him where he is today.

In talking about the success of The Onion, Fullman makes the ironic point that while humor is critical — obviously — there's more to it than that: “I think that humor is definitely the thing that has made The Onion name successful for the past 30 years. But, really, more than humor, even, it's consistency,” says Fullman. He goes on to add, “We can really innovate when it comes to content without having to change the format too quickly. It's essentially a really conservative institution, from a creative standpoint, because there are formats that we've had since the early days of print that are still going strong — formats of jokes, formats of features. I think that the ability to iterate, sometimes for decades, on a single format has been something that's super valuable.”

But, just to be clear, The Onion is really, really funny.

Highlights from this week's “Marketing Today” podcast include:

  • Fullman discusses The Onion and its properties. (2:50)
  • “Let's go wild with ideas.” — Fullman talks about Onion Labs. (7:15)
  • The Onion makes bigger bets in content marketing. (12:44)
  • Fullman breaks down content marketing. (18:56)
  • Allowing for experimentation (and failure) at a modest scale: Be (sort of) unafraid. (24:56)
  • Fullman's defining moment: If the shoe (store) doesn't fit, try advertising. (28:46)
  • Serving the institution of The Onion. (31:35)
  • Programmatic creative: It's promising and terrifying — and probably boring. (37:48)

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03 May 2023362: Operating in the White Space and Creating a New Category with Jason Andree, CMO at Nufabrx00:33:37

Jason Andree is the CMO of one of the fastest-growing companies in the country, Nufabrx. He grew up on a farm, and showing cattle translates surprisingly well to being a CMO. Jason joined Nufabrx from GlaxoSmithKline, where he led their global digital marketing department, executing marketing strategies across global categories. He is now a senior-level marketing executive with over fifteen years of success within the healthcare industry and is forging a new path in Healthware with Nufabrx.

Nufabrx puts medicine in clothing by making it water-soluble, infusing it into yarn, and coating it onto textiles. The company started in Seattle but soon relocated to Alan's home state, North Carolina, to be closer to experts in the textile industry. Due to its proximity to suppliers and researchers, Nufabrx is able to source all of its product materials within 90 miles of its manufacturing plant.

In this episode, Alan and Jason discuss why biohacking is becoming mainstream and the challenges of operating in the "white space" to create a new product in a giant industry. Jason and his team are crafting creative to make people rethink solutions to pain and targeting the demographic that is most familiar with pain: older consumers. Many marketers want to focus on the flashy fun of younger consumers, but older consumers are often overlooked, and Nufabrx is taking the opportunity to fill the gap. As a smaller brand, Nufabrx has to be innovative with its marketing dollars, so they keep a keen eye on performance and know they have to be flexible, take risks, and stay close to consumers. In addition to B2C, Nufabrx operates in the B2B space as well. Jason believes innovation can only come from consumer behavior. By licensing its technology and working with established brands rather than against them, Nufabrx is leading the charge in the construction of a new category.

In this episode, you'll learn:

  • Why we are seeing a rise in mainstream biohacking
  • How to build and think about a new product, brand, and category
  • What is "co-opetition"?

Key Highlights: 

  • [01:30] Cowboy Kid
  • [04:00] Jason’s path to Nufabrx
  • [05:50] Nufabrx Overview
  • [09:10] Why is biohacking big right now?
  • [12:30] Building a new brand, new product, and new category leader
  • [15:20] Crafting creative to make people (re)think
  • [19:40] Making less money work more
  • [22:00] "Co-opetition" in B2B
  • [25:10] How to handle your ambition
  • [26:45] Plan your steps, but not too much.
  • [28:10] Less about marketing performance. More about telling better stories
  • [29:50] Biomes to watch
  • [32:10] The Times They Are A-Changin', fast!

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30 Dec 2020240: Unlocking Brand Growth with Belvedere Vodka CEO Rodney Williams00:53:23

On this 240th episode of "Marketing Today," host Alan Hart speaks with Rodney Williams, president and CEO of Belvedere Vodka. With a bevy of experience leading successful marketing campaigns across a plethora of industries, Williams is truly an expert when it comes to closing the gap between a product and its consumers.

To start our conversation, Williams discusses his business school experience and the nonprofit sector before he began his journey to become a marketing expert. In school at Northwestern, Williams quickly learned that "you have a strong chance of getting a good grade by joining a group with people that don't think like you." This experience helped him understand a simple fact of life; to truly be successful, you must be open to the perspectives of others.

We then dive into Williams's experience working for large companies like Johnson & Johnson and Procter & Gamble. It was his success at these companies that taught him both "the element of brand-building where you're really fundamentally problem-solving" and not only the importance of "really tapping into what was already there." Williams then takes us into his induction into the Wind and Spirits industry, which eventually led him to his current position at Belvedere.

To end the conversation, we discuss how "the push for social justice has opened up brands in a big way" and how "the need for brands to take a stand and stand up for values that they believe in has never been more important." Williams touches on how the views of different cultures in the corporate business world have changed since he entered the workforce. "We're not there yet, but we're making progress!"

Highlights from this week's "Marketing Today":

  • Before business school, Rodney ran a direct mail business in Chicago that hired disadvantaged employees.1:53
  • Rodney has stayed in-tune with how the business world affects the communities that it is in. 3:03
  • Growing up in Evanston, Illinois, it was a natural fit for Rodney to attend Northwestern's business school. 3:35
  • After business school, Rodney worked for J&J and Procter & Gamble in a pursuit to learn sophisticated marketing. 5:32
  • Figuring out how to get the brand in the right position where it can connect with its customers is like a game to Rodney. 6:20
  • In his time at J&J, Rodney learned the ins and outs of working in an intrapreneurial environment. 6:55
  • Over time, Rodney slowly developed into an enhance-growth guy that has been able to take companies over the top. 8:47
  • J&J required that 25% of each business under its umbrella's revenue had to be from new products in the last three years. 9:15
  • When Rodney arrived at Band-Aid, he was able to take it from stagnant to The New York Times by using Barry Manalo's jingle. 10:22
  • The ability to understand the essence of a brand and what it means to the consumers allows a brand to enhance its imagery. 12:26
  • A former colleague's call about a dot-com opportunity led Rodney to quit his job and head to the West Coast. 13:04
  • Rodney's time working with OnStar eventually led to his entrance into the Wine and Spirits industry. 14:41
  • It was the health benefits of wine that initially drew Rodney to interview with his first wine company. 15:58
  • Robert Mondavi taught Rodney the importance and value of presentation. 17:20
  • Kendall Jackson, the number 1 chardonnay over $10, presented Rodney with an opportunity to launch the biggest product in company history. 18:37


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01 May 2019151: Ty Shay on performance storytelling and marketing jiujitsu00:45:44

This week on the “Marketing Today,” podcast, Alan talks with Ty Shay, global chief marketing officer for Norton LifeLock, which was acquired by Symantec two years ago for $2.3 billion. Shay's career as a marketer began somewhat unconventionally. After earning a degree in accounting and serving a brief stint in investment banking, Shay returned to the classroom for a Stanford MBA. After cutting his marketing teeth at P&G, Shay subsequently served in chief marketing roles with SquareTrade and Hotwire before joining LifeLock. He also currently serves on the board of directors for the Ad Council.

During the course of their discussion, Shay explains his concept of marketing jiujitsu and why, sometimes, it's a good idea to “turn off” your marketing efforts. He also talks at length about performance storytelling — its key elements and how it can be successfully implemented — and the impact of losing his father at an early age.

Shay also offered his perspective on the future of marketing: “I think it's going to continue to be about accountability,” said Shay. “I think it's going to continue to be where if you don't really have first-party data and can't really own your data and your customers, I think you're going to be in trouble. So I think you'll continue to see that evolution of marketers.  Really, I think, the successful marketers will have to be able to not choose between being a brand marketer or a performance marketer. I think you'll have to be a performance storyteller going forward.”

Highlights from this week's “Marketing Today” podcast include:

  • Ty Shay's unconventional path to a career in marketing. (1:23)
  • “Let's just turn the marketing off and see what happens.” — Shay explains the secrets of marketing jiujitsu. (5:21)
  • Is Ty Shay a marketing Jedi? (12:57)
  • “I thought the story they were telling was overly complex.” — Shay on how he utilized performance storytelling when he joined LifeLock. (18:17)
  • The three-step framework of performance storytelling. (22:20)
  • The two core competencies necessary for successful performance storytelling. (25:47)
  • Shay embraces a growth mindset. (37:44)
  • Just Do It: Shay admires Nike's work featuring Colin Kaepernick. And he thinks Southwest Airlines and Geico are two brands that “really know who they are.” (42:45)

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11 Mar 2020198: Digital Transformation at PwC with Reggie Walker00:36:13

During this 198th episode of “Marketing Today,” host Alan Hart interviews Reggie Walker, U.S. Chief Commercial Officer for PwC. 

We discuss Walker's background and his long career at PwC. Then Walker takes us through the digital transformation happening within PwC and the impact of technology on professional services today and in the future.

Walker shares the importance of giving employees new skills and technology to transform the way you're running your business, which ultimately impacts client experience. He says, "When you focus on your people, and you build the right skills within them, those are your factors of production that you can then take out and use in multiple ways." When providing advice for peers in other large companies, Walker advises that training employees and setting very clear expectations is essential. As Walker reflects on the future of professional services, he remarks, "Creating more personalized experiences is really what's starting to win the day.” Walker's thoughts on the digital transformation within PwC can help us think about how other businesses can use technology to change the way that we work.

Highlights from this week's “Marketing Today”:

  • Reggie provides background about his twenty-seven-year career at PwC. 01:17
  • Reggie describes pivotal moments in his career. 03:47
  • Reggie tells us about his current role as Chief Commercial Officer for the U.S. at PwC. 04:37
  • What was it like to transition from his prior role to his current position? 06:10
  • Reggie explains the various components of marketing and sales at PwC. 7:10
  • Hear about the transformation initiative happening within PwC. 9:53
  • How PwC doubled down on its organization internally. 12:51
  • The vision PwC has for taking what they've done to create a unique client experience. 14:35
  • Reggie's advice for peers in other companies that are working on large scale change. 16:43
  • Reggie discusses the future of professional services. 19:38
  • What are the top opportunities or challenges Reggie's clients are bringing to him in 2020? 21:55
  • Is there an experience in his past that defines who he is today? 26:59
  • What is the advice Reggie would give to his younger self? 29:31
  • Are there any brands, companies, or causes that Reggie follows that he thinks other people should take notice of? 31:13
  • Where does he see the future of marketing? 34:00

 

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02 Nov 2022336: The Importance of Winning Over Gen Z and Inspiring Action with DeNora Getachew, CEO of DoSomething.org00:42:17

DeNora’s experiences as a teenager quickly shaped how she viewed the world and her role in it. With a passion for civic engagement and empowering young people, DeNora found a home at DoSomething.org where she uses social understanding and data to inspire action.

In this episode, Alan and DeNora discuss why brands should care about their social impact, how Gen Z is forcing companies to evolve, and the Holy Grail of marketing: how to get people to really buy into what we are promoting.  

 

In this episode, you'll learn: 

  • How DoSomething.org is fueling young people to change the world
  • The “secret” to getting people to take action 
  • The power of being intentional, honest, and centering social good

Key Highlights 

  • [01:20] The experience that solidified DeNora’s interstate in civic engagement  
  • [03:50] Denora’s path to becoming CEO of DoSomething.org
  • [10:20] How DoSomething is meeting the moment to transform the future
  • [14:45] What do young people care about today and why
  • [17:35] Young people have evolved beyond being influenced by the simple CTA
  • [22:00] The impact DoSomething is driving by giving them tools 
  • [24:15] The power of being intentional, honest, and centering social good
  • [26:00] Why brands should care about their social impact
  • [27:50] How the role of civic engagement has changed with today's workforce
  • [28:30] Centering young people in the dialogue may help us find better solutions
  • [31:40] The formative experiences and people that define DeNora
  • [33:15] What is COVID Clarity?
  • [34:00] DeNora’s advice to her younger self
  • [34:55] Marketers have to evolve to meet the upcoming generations 
  • [36:30] Three things companies need to consider to stay relevant
  • [38:20] Which brands are connecting the dots between their brand and consumer's concerns
  • [40:10] Young people are the biggest opportunity AND biggest threat to marketers 

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13 Nov 2019179: Transformation of Petco with Tariq Hassan00:38:03

During this 179th episode of “Marketing Today,” host Alan Hart interviews Tariq Hassan, chief marketing officer at Petco. Petco is a leading specialty retailer that's been serving pets and the people who love them for more than 50 years. Petco currently has about 1,500 locations throughout North America and employs approximately 26,000 people.

On the show today, Tariq Hassan discusses the transformation that is taking place at Petco, the significant investments that they are making into nutrition, and how all of this impacts their employees, which they call their partners. 

Hassan shares advice for CMOs looking to get on the same page with their CEOs and organizations. "The line of trust around your leadership table is having shared accountability with your partners, and I think if you want to have aligned trust with your CEO, it starts with being aligned with your leadership team." How does Tariq view career risks? "Sometimes, what is a risk on paper, actually presents itself as the biggest opportunity you have going forward." Also, learn what Tariq Hassan believes is vital about brand ethos: "Brand Ethos is really capturing and understanding what that brand purpose is. But then shaping it, bringing it to life in a way that both your internal organization knows how to activate it, as well as externally making sure your customers know how it is being brought to bear to their benefit."

 

Highlights from this week's “Marketing Today”:

  • What kind of pet does Tariq Hassan have? (01:05)
  • How did Tariq Hassan start his career toward Petco? (02:34)
  • What advice would Tariq give to improve relationships with employers? (04:36)
  • What has Tariq's first year at Petco been like? (06:16)
  • What gave Tariq business confidence at Petco? (09:46)
  • How does he think about brand ethos? (11:10)
  • What has Tariq had to do with partners (employees) to drive change? (15:05)
  • How does he think about transformation, and have there been any factors that have been critical to success? (17:00)
  • Alan and Tariq discuss the pet market and Petco's involvement in. (21:00)
  • How does Tariq think about pet nutrition? (25:03)
  • Is there an experience in Tariq's life that has defined who he is today? (27:15)
  • What fuels Tariq Hassan to keep going in his career and life? (30:29)
  • Are there brands that Tariq thinks we should pay attention to? (31:37)
  • Where does Tariq Hassan see the future of marketing going? (34:40)

 

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24 Apr 2019150: Author Minter Dial is always seeking to ‘elevate the debate’00:48:02

This week on the “Marketing Today,” podcast, Alan talks with Minter Dial, author of Heartificial Empathy: Putting Heart into Business and Artificial Intelligence,” which is his third book. Previously, he co-authored "Futureproof: How To Get Your Business Ready for the Next Disruption,” and he is the author and filmmaker of “The Last Ring Home,” the story of the grandfather he never knew, who died as a POW during World War II.

Prior to his career as a speaker, consultant, filmmaker, and author, Dial spent 15 years with L'Oreal, where he ran the Redken business in addition to serving in other marketing roles there. During the podcast, Dial talks about his latest book, which he says he didn't really intend to write, and he shares his perspective on what exactly empathy is, how it can benefit businesses, and the implications for its use in artificial intelligence.

And he had this to say about the future of marketing. “With all the opportunities and tools that are out there, making your brand come alive is going to happen through people,” says Dial. “And so there's probably a whole lot more work that needs to happen on the attitudes of the people you recruit, as an entirety in the company, and figuring out ways to make your brand more congruent, to have this greater empathy idea and integrity. And this is going to change the way we do marketing because you can't just focus on ROIs and click-throughs.”

Highlights from this week's “Marketing Today” podcast include:

  • “I want to tell stories, connect the dots, and elevate the debate.” –Minter Dial (1:25)
  • Dial is inspired to make business more empathic to benefit people. (3:15)
  • How Dial thinks about empathy in all its different forms. (4:53)
  • For businesses, the benefits of empathy start from within. (10:08)
  • “I'm going to miss you, JJ.” — The empathic bot experiment. (18:53)
  • “First of all, artificial empathy does not exist — today.” –Minter Dial (25:03)
  • Dial's “journey of identity” to learn more about the grandfather he never knew led to a book and a documentary, both called “The Last Ring Home.” (28:55)
  • Advice Dial would give his younger self: “Always be open to the experience; never say no.” (34:18)
  • “There's never been a more exciting time to be in marketing.” –Minter Dial (44:18)

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04 Dec 2019182: Four Billion Views on TikTok and More with the CMO of EOS Products Soyoung Kang00:43:15

During this 182nd episode of “Marketing Today,” host Alan Hart interviews Soyoung Kang, the chief marketing officer at EOS Products. Soyoung brings a unique perspective and expertise in strategy and brand development.

Kang shares her career journey, which started with a bachelor's degree in architecture from MIT. The journey continued with a transition from consulting at Boston Consulting to vice president at Bath & Body Works, leading to her current role at EOS.

Since joining EOS, Kang's launched a reboot of the core brand, including the creative identity, strategic vision, product pipeline, messaging strategy, and content. She debuted a new campaign called "Make It Awesome," as well as the EOS flavor lab. When asked what the biggest challenge of driving so much change was, Kang said, “the toughest part of it was truly flying the plane while we were building it."

 

Highlights from this week's “Marketing Today”:

  • Soyoung's fascination with Architecture: "It's a personal passion of mine, and it fuels how I like to think about what I bring to my day-to-day." 01:40
  • A "little detour" for the Fulbright Fellowship. 04:03
  • Recruited into Consulting: "They have a way of thinking that consulting firms see as a strategic potential and a way of breaking down problem-solving." 05:03 
  • Soyoung's adventure into marketing via strategy. 06:02
  • Shifting into a "Head of the Brand" role. 08:05
  • "If I consider the first 10 years of my career as learning how to be a strategic thinker, the next 10 years of my career were really understanding how to create brand stories." 08:58
  • Soyoung's current role as CMO at EOS: "After leaving Bath & Body Works, I really wanted to take on something that was different in scale." 09:46
  • The Unique offering of the EOS brand. 10:40
  • Deciding what to tackle as the first CMO for a company. 11:44
  • The "First 4 Weeks" strategy: understanding the consumer. 14:35
  • The importance of describing your core consumer. 18:19
  • Key strategies and "edit points" on messaging through social media. 19:37 
  • Micro-batch: a unique, new commercial platform. 20:40
  • The approach of the EOS "Make It Awesome" brand campaign. 23:26
  • The amazing success of EOS brand's first-ever "Tik Tok" campaign. 24:39
  • Advice for marketers working with Influencers. 28:50
  • A great example of the importance of a Speed-to-Market strategy: the EOS #flavorlab. 29:32
  • Starting a new role with tons of change: "The toughest part of it was truly flying the plane while we were building it." 33:02
  • The Immigrant experience: the most defining experience of Soyoung's past that makes up who she is today. 34:42
  • Advice to your younger self, if starting over. "There are a lot of ways to get to the ultimate goal." 37:06
  • Brands, Companies, or Organizations to take notice of. 38:10
  • The most attractive opportunities OR pitfalls/threats as a marketer. 39:46
  • What is the future of marketing? 41:26

 

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12 Feb 2020194: Historic Ad Fraud at Uber with Kevin Frisch00:48:05

During this 194th episode of “Marketing Today,” host Alan Hart interviews Kevin Frisch, who was recently the CMO of Wag and before that the head of performance marketing, and CRM for Uber. Before Uber, Frisch served as chief marketing officer of GSN Games and Snapfish. Frisch was named to Forbes' CMO Next List 2019: 50 Game-Changing Marketing Leaders.

Frisch discusses the largest ever fraud case, a case between Uber and its suppliers of performance marketing and advertising. Frisch shares what happened, what was the trigger that launched the investigation, how they diagnosed what was going on, and several measurement challenges along the way.

Frisch shares the revelations on ad fraud and the difficulty of finding it only after you have the detailed data, "Until you do that, if you're just relying on the higher-level reporting, you just don't catch it." He advises that "you should start by assuming that, half of what's on the display channels, is fraud." "You can't sort of out-source, and say, here's an anti-fraud tool, let me just run it through that." There is still so much to learn about fraud. Frisch shares a much-needed perspective on how to approach and avoid issues.

 

Highlights from this week's “Marketing Today”:

  • Kevin Frisch's background and pivotal twists along the way. 01:46
  • Kevin's path with a series of B2C companies. 04:10
  • The culture within Uber during the controversy 06:17
  • The role of "Head of Performance Marketing." 07:30
  • The intriguing story surrounding the fraud case between Uber and programmatic advertising providers. 08:13
  • The discovery and definition of "Attribution Fraud." 11:37
  • Actions every marketer should be taking right now, to avoid ad fraud. 16:36
  • Should you be using programmatic? 18:06
  • Advice on picking better partners and people to help along the way. 19:49
  • Uber's purpose and approach to the "Moving Forward" campaign. 20:49
  • Defining "Addressable TV" and its usage at Uber. 23:00
  • The Results and reactions for "addressable tv." 27:59
  • Unique challenges for marketing towards driver-partners. 29:20
  • What performance marketers should be doing differently in 2020. 35:45
  • An experience of Kevin's past that makes up who he is today. 38:06
  • Advice Kevin would give his younger self. 41:19
  • What drives Kevin and keeps him going daily. 42:44
  • Brands, Companies, or Causes to take notice of. 44:06
  • Kevin's vision for the future of marketing. 46:01

 



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15 Dec 2021290: Becoming a Transformation Agent with Onriva’s George Corbin00:58:09

George Corbin is a Board Director at Edgewell Personal Care and is the COO of Onriva, a next-generation, AI-powered, travel marketplace.

In this episode, Alan and George talk about his career path, which includes consulting through the boom and bust of the internet, becoming Chief Digital Officer at Marriott, leading their digital transformation, and making his way to a position on Edgewell's board.

Throughout their conversation they discuss lessons learned through leading digital transformation, what that means for the marketing function, and marketers should think about leading a digital transformation. George says, “The best marketers are transformation agents,” and sometimes that means getting really good at being insightful with your customers and looking at the data. 

Listen in to hear more about digital transformations and the hot topics board members are currently discussing.

In this episode, you'll learn:

  • Getting digital transformation right
  • Making your company a growth engine 
  • Opportunities for marketers on a board


Key Highlights:

  • [02:00] George's wrestling match with an octopus 
  • [04:10] George's start in marketing
  • [10:34] Getting digital transformation right
  • [18:57] Becoming a board director
  • [21:48] Opportunities for marketers at the board level
  • [26:11] Shifting to a mind of governance 
  • [31:20] “Hot or not”—what boards are talking about
  • [38:55] George's advice for CMOs
  • [45:26] An experience that defines George, makes him who he is today 
  • [48:33] George's advice to his younger self 
  • [50:14] What marketers should be learning more about 
  • [52:07] The brands and organizations George follows
  • [55:42] The biggest threat or opportunity for marketers

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27 Jul 2022322: Unlocking App Data with Apptopia’s Jonathan Kay00:36:16

As consumer behavior rapidly changes during the pandemic and beyond, Jonathan Kay, Founder & CEO of app data insights company Apptopia, says the only way to success is focusing on the data to make fully informed business decisions.

In this episode, Alan and Jonathan discuss Apptopia’s data insights into various business sectors and how marketers can utilize this specific data in more creative and effective ways. As an entrepreneur, Jonathan also touches on the lessons he’s learned from building this business— whether it’s hiring or the potential backfire of reliance on systems.

In this episode, you'll learn:

  • The importance of app data to marketers
  • What the current data says about the travel industry, the economy, and home delivery
  • Insights into Apptopia’s hiring strategy

Key Highlights

[02:49] Jonathan’s career path

[05:04] Biggest surprise of the life of an entrepreneur

[08:18] Driving the need for better hiring strategy

[09:15] Apptopia and data use on scale

[15:10] Home delivery boom during COVID

[22:14] Data insights from the travel industry

[25:29] Economic data insights

[31:20] An experience that defines Jonathan

[32:55] Jonathan's advice to his younger self

[35:40] What Jonathan as a marketer is learning more about

[41:02] The biggest opportunity or threat for marketers today

Resources Mentioned:

  • Jonathan Kay
  • Apptopia
  • Grasshopper where he was the “Ambassador of Buzz”
  • Apptopia Blog – where they dissect some of their data and trends
  • Companies and apps mentioned: GoPuff, Uber Eats, Door Dash, Klarna, AfterPay, Affirm, Costco, BJ’s, Kayak, Hoppr, Disney Perks, Royal Caribbean

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13 Oct 2021281: Unexpected lessons in leadership and marketing with StockX CMO Deena Bahri00:30:52

Deena Bahri is the Chief Marketing Officer at StockX, a Detroit-based technology company providing an online resale marketplace for sneakers, apparel, accessories, and collectibles.

In this episode, Alan and Deena discuss her journey to becoming a CMO, the defining moments in her career, and the lessons motherhood has taught her about leadership and marketing. Deena says, “We're never just sitting back and saying, oh, we've got this covered. We know exactly how to do that.”

Listen to hear Deena's approach to leadership and how she is embracing new opportunities to grow while never losing sight of the customers' needs.

In this episode, you'll learn:

  • Forgive yourself when you aren't perfect
  • Always seek improvement
  • Focus on building trust with your customer

Key Highlights:

  • [01:29] What has motherhood taught Deena about marketing?
  • [04:51] Deena's journey to StockX
  • [06:57] What even is StockX?
  • [14:08] Seizing growth opportunities
  • [17:45] Marketing to sellers and buyers
  • [19:43] Deena's approach to leadership
  • [21:40] Defining moments in Deena's life
  • [24:49] Advice to her younger self
  • [25:53] Don't underestimate data and analytics
  • [27:18] Brands to follow

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19 Aug 2020221: Comfort in Trying Times with Purple's Burke Morley00:37:01

During this 221st episode of “Marketing Today,” host Alan Hart interviews Burke Morley, the vice president of brand and executive creative director of Purple.

On the show today, we talk a lot about content and how content has been vital to Purple's growth. We also discuss Purple's focus on differentiation and innovation in the DTC mattress space, including their “SHIF” (show how it feels) approach.

Morley talks about what sets Purple apart from their competitors in the same space. He says, “we're interested in creating a better sleep experience and a better mattress and not just a better purchasing experience." This focus on innovation connects to Purple's content strategy, which is about owning tactility. Trying to create a visceral sensory experience, Morley says, “we want to show how it feels instead of talking about what it is." We discuss how Purple has weathered the COVID-19 pandemic phenomenally by shifting their strategy and the sales flow from wholesale to DTC. We also discuss Purple's future, and Morley reminds us that, "reach can be bought, but attention has to be earned." This discussion highlights a sensorial approach to marketing and how that strategy can help evolve a growing brand. 

Highlights from this week's “Marketing Today”:

  • Burke's experience working in many locales. 01:30
  • His journey to Purple. 02:08
  • The nature of the work he did at iconic brands such as Nike and Sonic. 03:02
  • How Purple differentiates itself in the DTC mattress space. 05:24
  • How Purple is thinking about content. 07:06
  • Taking the brand to the next level and evolving the brand strategy. 11:32
  • The impact of the COVID-19 pandemic. 13:23
  • Purple's future. 20:00
  • Burke shares a defining experience. 24:01
  • Burke reflects on advice he would give to his younger self. 27:44
  • Burke shares about an impactful purchase he made in the last 6-12 months. 30:48
  • Are there any brands, companies, or causes that Burke follows that he thinks other people should take notice of? 32:03
  • Burke's take on the top opportunity and threat facing marketers today. 34:36


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11 Jan 2023346: The Power of Breakthrough Creative with Geoff Tanner, Chief Commercial and Marketing Officer at J.M. Smucker Co.00:40:38

Geoff Tanner is a passionate believer in the power of breakthrough creative. That philosophy and his passion for music lead to some of the most iconic campaigns of the past 10 years. Geoff oversees the consumer and customer experience across the commercial funnel. He has a unique perspective on the blending of sales and marketing that helped JM Smucker transform from having a “sleepy” brand portfolio to being named on Fast Company‘s list of the World’s Most Innovative Companies. 

In this episode, Alan and Geoff discuss the key elements JM Smucker targeted to transform the brand portfolio, marketing strategy, and operating model. Geoff tells us what “The Power of One” is, the importance of household penetration and reach, and how improved metrics will impact the future of marketing and creative 

 In this episode, you'll learn: 

  • How diverse the JM Smucker portfolio is and the impact of multiple acquisition 
  • How to maintain relevance for a brand that is over 100 years old
  • Issues with ROI and impact measurements, and what the future may look like

 Key Highlights 

  • [01:30] How Geoff is giving back to his community through music
  • [05:22] The path from rugby in New Zealand to the C Suit at JM Smucker
  • [08:15] How the public should think about JM Smucker’s portfolio
  • [09:25] JM Smucker’s transformation and new marketing model 
  • [13:15] The key elements Geoff and his team had to change to reach their goals 
  • [13:50] What is the “Power of One” and how did it impact their agency search
  • [15:00] Identifying what was most critical to driving the business
  • [16:10] Modernizing Meow Mix 
  • [17:45] Ludacris and Jif Peanut Butter 
  • [18:50] Facelift for Folgers 
  • [20:20] The Byron Sharp and Mark Ritson Influence 
  • [22:45] Transforming the “selling machine”
  • [24:30] Markers of growth
  • [27:05] The balance of reach and creative
  • [28:25] Talk about JB Steenkamp
  • [29:15] How getting an internship at Heinze shaped Geoff's perspective
  • [31:25] Give back earlier and know your value
  • [34:15] The fusion between sales and marketing 
  • [35:50] Brands Geoff has his eye on
  • [37:05] The threats and opportunities associated with mass media measurement




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13 May 2020207: Leadership and transformation with H&R Block's Vinoo Vijay00:36:21

During this 207th episode of “Marketing Today,” host Alan Hart interviews Vinoo Vijay, the chief marketing officer at H&R Block.

On the show today, Vijay talks about his background growing up and tells us about his job at H&R Block. We talk about the transformation he's driving there and the advice he has for other marketers in the same role. We also talk about COVID and the response that H&R Block has put into place.

Vijay shares that he attended boarding school at a young age. We then learn about the many achievements that led him to his role at H&R Block. We talk about how H&R Block quickly transformed its business to help clients during the COVID-19 crisis. He says, “If there was ever a moment where needed to help and inspire confidence, it was now.” Vijay shares his approach to leading transformation. He reflects, “I need to find a way to connect people to an idea that is long-term that connects the company towards a transformation.” Throughout this conversation, Vijay brings his focus to how marketing can help a company elevate the client experience and excel at the human relationship.

 

Highlights from this week's “Marketing Today”:

  • The story of how Vinoo went to school in another country, away from his parents, at a young age. 01:29
  • Vinoo's path from boarding school to H&R Block. 03:56
  • Vinoo's thoughts on working with Jeff Jones. 08:57
  • An overview of the financial products and solutions H&R Block offers. 12:58
  • The effect of current tax delays on H&R Block. 15:03
  • The three mandates Vinoo has focused on in his role. 17:37
  • The transformation over the past few years at H&R Block. 19:58
  • Advice to other CMOs. 22:57
  • Is there an experience in his past that defines who he is today? 25:00
  • What is the advice Vinoo would give to his younger self? 28:02
  • The most impactful purchase he has made in the last 6-12 months of $100 or less. 29:04
  • Are there any brands, companies, or causes that Vinoo follows that he thinks other people should take notice of? 30:43
  • Vinoo's take on the top opportunities or threats facing marketers today. 34:22

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07 Jul 2021267: The Financial Impact of Customer Connection with Khoros’s Katherine Calvert00:34:02

Katherine Calvert is the Chief Marketing Officer of Khoros, a digital engagement platform for social marketing, online communities, and customer care.

In this episode, Alan and Katherine discuss her path to becoming CMO at Khoros and her perspective on customer engagement. She also shares what platforms marketers should consider if they want to create great experiences for their customers and prospects.

Katherine believes “there is a real opportunity for marketing leaders to be the champion within companies to elevate CX,” saying customer experience should be the “north star” by which they lead. Studies show that over 60% of consumers stop doing business with a brand after just one negative instance. On the other hand, 80% of consumers say they will pay more for the same product or service if it comes with a delightful customer experience.

Listen to find out how customer experience is transformational to your company's finances.

In this episode, you'll learn:

  • The importance of staying connected 
  • The financial impact of having good CX
  • Utilizing platforms and channels

Key Highlights:

  • [01:22] Katherine's brush with Kevin Bacon
  • [02:55] Katherine's path to becoming CMO
  • [05:32] What you should know about Khoros
  • [09:15] Stay connected with your customers
  • [15:05] How marketers should think about channels and platforms 
  • [20:01] Katherine's advice for customer engagement
  • [24:15] A defining experience that made Katherine who she is today 
  • [26:34] Katherine's advice to her younger self
  • [27:29] A topic Katherine believes marketers should learn about
  • [30:24] The brands and companies Katherine follows
  • [32:35] What Katherine says is today's biggest opportunity for marketers

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09 Dec 2020237: ThirdLove Agility and Empowerment through Tough Times with co-founder Heidi Zak00:34:00

On this 237th episode of "Marketing Today," host Alan Hart speaks with Heidi Zak, the co-founder and CEO of ThirdLove, the 3rd largest online bra and underwear company in the United States. Zak is passionate about making sure all women feel comfortable in their underwear, no matter their shape or size.

Our conversation starts with a glimpse of Zak's past, growing up in a town of just 3,000 people and working at a farmers market. After college, Zak finally found her way to the Big Apple while working in an investment bank's retail division. Zak then talks about the cushy job with Google that pulled her out west, the same cushy job that she decided to leave to start ThirdLove. In a market dominated by men, Zak had a hard time finding investors for her women's bra and underwear company, that is until some men were able to see the "opportunity to do things differently in all aspects."

We then dive into the challenges presented by COVID that forced ThirdLove to "cut back on marketing expenses to focus on efficiency." Zak then tackles the issue of creating content when the world is shut down, claiming, "as a marketer, you're constantly in the cycle of content creation, but sometimes you might not maximize the assets that you've already created." Lastly, Zak discusses ThridLove's support of entrepreneurs with its TL Effect program in an attempt to show everyone that "you can support causes through what you show to the world!"

 

Highlights from this week's "Marketing Today":

  • Heidi grew up in a 3,000-person town just outside of Niagara Falls and learned a lot from her time working at a farmers market. 1:41
  • It wasn't until after college that Heidi found her way to the retail group at an investment bank in NYC. 3:01
  • Like most college graduates, Heidi had no idea what she wanted to do after school. 4:09
  • Banking served as an excellent entryway for Heidi to understand basic business skills that she used to build her own company. 4:32
  • Heidi made the switch to the operations side out of a desire to learn more about operating a retail business. 5:12
  • A job at Google brought Heidi out to the West Coast, where she got her first taste of entrepreneurship and the startup industry. 5:50
  • Heidi quit her job at Google to start ThirdLove with her husband after seeing a need in the market. 6:40
  • It was difficult to raise seed money for ThirdLove in a world dominated by men at the time. 7:31
  • When COVID hit, ThirdLove hunkered down and prepared for the worst-case scenario. 8:49
  • The market for bras has changed a little as more and more people have started working from home. 10:24
  • ThirdLove had to cut back the most in the Television marketing sector while becoming more efficient in all other sectors. 11:38
  • In the last month or two, ThirdLove has been able to reinvest in mid to upper-funnel marketing. 12:30
  • Heidi is always testing out new markets to see where the potential lies for innovation. 13:00
  • Creating content became trickier when COVID hit, forcing ThirdLove to do things differently with the same stuff. 14:25
  • Leveraging content from customers and the team has allowed the brand to connect with its audience. 15:32
  • With so many social movements going on in today's society, ThirdLove has put the elements of inclusivity and diversity at the company's forefront. 16:55
  • TL Effect supports a new-business female founder of color by providing mentorship, a monetary grant, and promotion through ThirdLove. 17:55


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28 Aug 2019168: Anas Ghazi from Kantar on WPP, Growth & Data00:52:54

During this episode of “Marketing Today,” Alan Hart interviews Anas Ghazi, Growth Officer at Kantar. Ghazi's path to Kantar stems from his background in computer programming, his work in data analysis at TransUnion then data analytics and digital marketing platforms at American Express. He then headed to WPP, working on their data alliance initiative, of which he eventually became CEO of, before his current role of driving growth and partnerships at Kantar.

Ghazi discusses growing up in Wembley outside of London, watching a lot of Sylvester Stallone movies and initially becoming an actor. He then talks about transitioning to becoming a data engineer at TransUnion in Chicago and working on portfolio reviews for customer banks. Ghazi also opens up about his move the New York and American Express work, as well as, his early days of digital data at WPP working on the company's data alliance initiative. We also cover the current state of WPP's proposed sale of a majority stake in Kantar and how Kantar is transforming and consolidating under the parent brand.

What did Ghazi do when he went from Chicago at TransUnion over to New York City, the center of the world's financial markets, to work for American Express? “I was a part of the analytics and capabilities group, and for about four weeks where my role was to pretty much oversee the relationships with the credit bureaus.” He quickly was tapped to help the company's digital transformation efforts for risk management and card management units and bringing in data partnerships with outside partners. Anas then made another leap over to WPP, “I started off as a director and then I began doing these partnerships and then began doing expansion and then moved my way up from director to global director to managing director and then to CEO in about three and a half-ish years.” Anas on his latest role at Kantar, “we are in really exciting times at Kantar. We are a data, insight, and consultancy firm. We do all three, and we do them well.”

Highlights from this week's “Marketing Today”:

  • Anas Ghazi introduces himself and his experience once pursuing a career in acting. (01:24)
  • Anas talks about his business experience at TransUnion. (04:33)
  • What was the prompt for Anas to go from TransUnion to American Express? (11:13)
  • Has data been the common thread for his career? (14:52)
  • Anas talks about his transition into WPP. (17:00)
  • What was it that brought Anas over to Kantar? (23:34)
  • Multi-skilled people that think outside of the box are often overlooked in the business world. (30:30)
  • What types of thoughtful and meaningful work is Kantar doing? (33:02)
  • What does the recapitalization of WPP mean? (35:35)
  • How can businesses effectively apply diversity reports? (37:26)
  • Is there an experience in Anas's life that has defined who he is today? (38:00)
  • What advice would he give to his younger self? (45:15)
  • What fuels Anas to keep going in his career and life? (46:08)
  • Are there brands that we should pay attention to? (46:56)
  • Where does Anas see the future of marketing going? (50:48)


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29 Jun 2022318: The Path to Customer Success with Bynder’s Heidi Lasker00:28:58

We've increasingly heard customer success and customer experience used interchangeably, but Heidi Lasker, SVP of Customer Success for the Americas and APAC at Bynder, believes that while they are interconnected, they hold different spaces within a company.

In this episode, Alan and Heidi discuss tools for customer success and how to integrate them within the lifecycle of your customer and user relationship.

In this episode, you'll learn:

  • How Bynder excels at customer success
  • Why strong cross-functional collaboration is critical to CXHow to deliver the best possible experience through success programs

Key Highlights

  • [02:15] Heidi's career journey
  • [04:49] The role of Bynder in today's online world
  • [06:00] How trends in the market have influenced Bynder's path
  • [07:38] Getting control of your asset management
  • [10:38] What “good” content operation looks like
  • [12:50] How Customer Success is defined today
  • [15:38] The interplay between Customer Experience and Customer Success
  • [18:20] Community's role with users and customers
  • [21:17] Marketing's role in Customer Success
  • [24:45] An experience that defines Heidi
  • [26:33] Heidi's advice for her younger self
  • [27:18] What marketers should be learning more about
  • [28:46] Brands Heidi is fascinated by
  • [30:20] The biggest opportunity and threat for marketers today

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27 Feb 2019138: Steve Lucas of Marketo discusses the 'Engagement Economy'00:52:28

This week on "Marketing Today," Alan talks with Steve Lucas, the former CEO of Marketo, which was acquired by Adobe in 2018. Now, Lucas is senior vice president of digital experience with Adobe as he continues to lead Marketo as an Adobe company. In addition, Lucas is the author of "Engage to Win: A Blueprint for Success in the Engagement Economy."

In talking about the Engagement Economy, Lucas details the importance of attention and how it is expended. "In particular, attention is absolutely a currency in the Engagement Economy," says Lucas. "Because people, now more than ever, have a finite amount of attention to spend. No matter what you do – even if you never slept – you only have 24 hours of attention. It is a finite resource that we, as humans, have. So we have to carefully choose where we apply our attention."

Lucas goes on to add, "And it is not just a belief, it’s an unequivocal assertion on my part, that people will spend that currency of attention on companies and brands that they believe align with their values."

Alan will be attending the Adobe Summit, along with Steve Lucas, March 26-28 in Las Vegas, NV. Please reach out as they both would love to hear from listeners.

Highlights from this week’s "Marketing Today" podcast include:
  • Lucas traces the arc of his career and discusses his penchant for risk. (1:44)
  • Lucas talks about his new role at Adobe in the wake of the Marketo acquisition. (4:37)
  • "Engage to Win" – Lucas on the driving force and motivation behind writing his book. (6:10)
  • "A value-driven interaction over an extended period of time." – Lucas reveals how he thinks about and defines engagement. (9:26)
  • For Lucas, attention is valuable currency in the Engagement Economy. (13:19)
  • Planting the flag: Lucas explains his passion for engagement. (15:16)
  • Lucas talks about service marketing. (23:18)
  • A diagnosis of Type-1 diabetes at the age of 24 was a defining and transformative experience for Lucas. (34:31)
  • Not waiting his turn: Lucas has a deep and burning desire to make a difference. (39:37)
  • "Nothing’s ever perfect." – Why Lucas wishes he’d taken more risks earlier in his career. (43:51)
  • The future of marketing: Lucas talks about what’s already here and what’s right around the corner. (48:59)

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17 Dec 2021BONUS: Our Biggest Marketing Lessons and Opportunities with Alan Hart and Stef Hamerlinck00:49:06

This is a BONUS episode from Marc Binkley and the Anstice aCast podcast where Alan, Marc, and Stef Hamerlinck discuss the year in review of marketing and their respective podcasts. 

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In this year-in-review, Alan, Stef, and Marc share the biggest lessons they've learned from interviewing hundreds of the world's leading thinkers in strategy, marketing, and branding.

Alan Hart, Stef Hamerlinck, and Marc Binkley have interviewed hundreds of the world's leading thinkers on business strategy, marketing, and branding. During this entertaining conversation, the three of us share some of the biggest lessons we've learned from those conversations and share what we believe are amazing opportunities for our profession.

Bios

Alan Hart hosts the Marketing Today podcast since 2014. Alan is also a consultant for marketing leadership and board advisor.

Stef Hamerlinck is a brand strategy consultant and since 2017 has hosted the Let's talk branding podcast.

Marc Binkley is VP Strategy & Digital Marketing at Anstice and hosts the Anstice aCast podcast.

Here's the Marketingland image that we're referring to throughout the conversation.

TimeStamps 

0:00 – Alan linking business strategy with marketing and brand strategy

2:46 – Why Stef started his podcast on brand strategy

4:20 – Why Alan started his podcast 

5:40 – Why Marc started his podcast

7:23 – Our favorite interviews

10:10 – What topic marketers need to learn more about

16:05 – Alan's perception of why CMO's want to get away from marketing

17:40 – Stef's thoughts on how brand strategy fits within marketing and business

19:01 – Why marketing strategy IS business strategy

20:40 – The interplay between brand strategy, marketing strategy, and business strategy

24:20 – Some memorable lessons from our podcast interviews 

Stef: Faisal Siddiqui How to build a big brand on a small budget

Alan: Mark Ritson Diagnosis of a brand

Alan: Bob Hoffman Advertising for Skeptics

Alan: Branded Entertainment with GoDaddy's CMO Fara Howard  

Marc: Kaaren Whitney-Vernon on branded content  

30:36 – Why advertising is not strategy 

31:55 - Some memorable lessons from our podcast interviews

Marc: Chris Kneeland are marketers addicted to advertising

Marc: Eddie Obeng the difference between change and transformation  

Marc: Manoj Jasra why momentum is critical

Alan: Joe Jackman driving results through reinvention, change, and transformation

Stef: JP Castlin on strategy in complexity and emergence

Stef: Paul Feldwick on the origins of branding 

41:36 – The biggest opportunities and threats to marketing  




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28 Mar 201888: Marketo CTO Manoj Goyal talks marketing automation, sales acceleration, engagement platforms, and innovation00:38:43

In this episode of “Marketing Today,” Alan talks with Manoj Goyal, who joined Marketo as chief product officer in May of 2017 before assuming his present role there as chief technology officer just this year. In his role as CTO, he is responsible for engineering teams that oversee the Marketo engagement platform.

During his conversation with Alan, he touches on a wide range of topics, including the difficulty in implementing and driving innovation, which has played a major part in many stops in his career. “The best innovations I've seen are ones that simplify the experience,” says Goyal. “If you can't use it in 10 to 15 minutes, if you can't understand the value in a half hour or less, then it's probably not a great innovation.” 

Highlights from this week's “Marketing Today” podcast include:

  • Goyal discusses his career and the path that led to Marketo. (1:35)
  • Goyal talks about being named to the Adweek 50 and Marketo's partnership with Google. (4:00)
  • For Goyal, there are three distinct capabilities necessary in an engagement platform. (7:38)
  • “Digital marketing has given us some bad habits.” (12:08)
  • Goyal provides a (very) quick ICP primer — hint: it means Ideal Customer Profile — and discusses how marketers can align around and develop them. (18:19)
  • “How not to boil the ocean” — Goyal shares his perspective on AI. (25:33)
  • Goyal on the difficulty in implementing innovation. (29:37)
  • Goyal is intrigued by the role social and people-based networks are playing in shaping the next generation. (32:36)

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12 Aug 2020220: The shift to creative with Bynder's CMO Andrew Hally00:28:36

 

During this 220th episode of “Marketing Today,” host Alan Hart interviews Andrew Hally, the chief marketing officer at Bynder.

On the show today, we talk about personalization and whether it's the right move for marketers at this time, whether investing in personalization technology is the right thing to be doing, and what consumers really care about. Hally provides lots of valuable advice to other marketers and CMOs.

Hally talks about how we need to bring more balance to the trend of marketing personalization. He predicts that in a few years, “Marketing attention may be beginning to return to our roots in creative and storytelling and the more emotive side of the game.” We discuss the limits and disadvantages of personalization and the potential drawbacks of investing in more personalization capabilities. We come back to the importance of empathizing with your customer and building a long-term relationship. Hally says, “At the end of the day, brands win because of the stories they tell and the way consumers identify with them," and "Even in this digital day and age, the story probably matters more than anything." This discussion is about finding balance in our marketing strategies and weighing technological tools with traditional creative approaches.

 

Highlights from this week's “Marketing Today”:

  • How a Georgia boy ended up in Boston. 01:14
  • Andrew's path to Bynder. 02:20
  • All about Bynder. 03:08
  • The trend to deliver more personalization. 03:50
  • Disadvantages of personalized marketing. 05:15
  • Investing in personalization capabilities. 08:05
  • How Andrew thinks about the impact of personalization on consumers. 09:39
  • Advice for marketers on rebalancing. 12:32
  • The role of technology in supporting creative. 14:48
  • Advice for other CMOs. 17:12
  • Andrew shares a defining experience. 18:45
  • Andrew reflects on advice he would give to his younger self. 20:20
  • Andrew shares about an impactful purchase he made in the last 6-12 months. 21:54
  • Are there any brands, companies, or causes that Andrew follows that he thinks other people should take notice of? 23:25
  • Andrew's take on the top threat facing marketers today. 25:47

 

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06 Apr 2022306: Earning the Customer Relationship with Vista’s Ricky Engelberg00:43:47

Ricky Engelberg is the Executive Vice President and Chief Marketing Officer at Vista.

Vista is a marketing partner to millions of small businesses around the world. As CMO, he oversees important functions such as customer experience and digital product.

In this episode Alan and Ricky discuss his early career in the entertainment industry in Athens, Georgia, and how that has shaped his career and how he sees the world today. Tune in to hear more about how the experience made him realize the importance of finding your audience and investing in relationships to make them successful.

In this episode, you'll learn:

  • The art of finding your audience
  • Creating a customer relationship across all product offerings
  • What makes a successful partnership

Key Highlights

[01:41] Ricky's early entertainment career

[04:37] Learning how to find the right audience

[09:23] Vista's mission and vision[13:26] Building customer relationships

[15:54] The shift to partnerships in creating brand awareness

[19:12] Vista's partnership with Humberto Leon

[24:40] The ingredients for a successful partnership

[29:22] An experience that makes Ricky who he is today

[31:43] Ricky's advice to his younger self

[34:34] What marketers should be learning more about

[39:19] The biggest threat and opportunity to marketers

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13 Jul 2022320: Being a Category of One with Morgan Stanley’s Alice Milligan00:32:39

Alice Milligan, CMO of Investment Management giant Morgan Stanley feels that “your career is a marathon, not a sprint”. Her path as an integral part of marketing, UI/UX, and growth strategies for companies such as American Express, Citibank, and E-Trade, has given her the ultimate marketing tool belt to tap in her current role.

In this episode, Alan and Alice discuss how Morgan Stanley has been able to connect to a new younger wealth management audience, why being unique is your superpower, and why data and analytics are the lifeblood of marketing today.

In this episode, you'll learn:

  • How Morgan Stanley bridges the gap between their core clients and their new clients
  • How the use of Ambassadors drives the conversation for Morgan StanleyThe importance of workplace collaboration

Key Highlights

  • [02:26] Alice’s career journey
  • [06:55] How Alice’s role as is CMO defined
  • [08:45] Managing the complexity of Morgan Stanley's portfolio
  • [11:00] Broadening Morgan Stanley's appeal
  • [13:20] Balancing the need to serve core clients yet still connecting to newer, younger clients
  • [13:35] Ambassadors of Morgan Stanley
  • [17:03] How the use of ambassadors drive conversation
  • [19:02] E-trade bringing back the baby
  • [23:21] An experience that defines Alice
  • [25:24] Alice's advice for her younger self
  • [26:40] What marketers should be learning more about
  • [28:34] Brands Alice is fascinated by
  • [31:37] The biggest opportunity and threat for marketers today

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05 Jul 201750: Hungry for a startup: Mike Senackerib wants to bring joy to healthy00:28:56

When it comes to CPG, Mike Senackerib's marketing career has literally run the gamut from soup to nuts. After getting his start working on the Cool Whip brand, he worked on numerous soups and snack brands for Kraft General Foods, Campbell's Soup, and Nabisco. Later, he took a spin as CMO at Hertz before returning to Campbell's as their CMO. 

But now he's made the leap: a startup. He's the co-founder and CEO of Farm&Oven, a maker of bakery bites that are packed with two servings of vegetables and a daily dose of probiotics. Senackerib is counting on his partner, Kay Allison, and his expertise as a marketer and food innovator to spell (healthy) snack success.

Senackerib believes it's “a really great time for startups,” especially for foods considered to be healthy, fresh and artisanal. And while he sees “problem solving as fun,” he recognizes that sometimes “the problem is you have to have a solution.” But like all optimistic entrepreneurs, he loves the challenge: “You do have to hustle…and do a lot of networking to find the right connections. The good news is there are a lot of good people out there, and they recommend other good people.” 

Highlights from this week's “Marketing Today” podcast include:

  • Senackerib's career path: From a classic CPG foundation to startup. (1:33)
  • Why a startup? The timing — and the taste — was right. (4:30)
  • Senackerib discusses Farm&Oven's e-commerce strategy. (11:01)
  • Prioritizing in life and business — Putting the most energy behind the biggest ideas. (19:30) 
  • Ownership: The ultimate expression of building a business. (21:53)
  • Senackerib believes the future of marketing can be found at the intersection of personalization and automation. (26:03)

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18 Sep 2019171: Can We Save the Corporation with Joseph Jaffe01:04:21

During this episode of “Marketing Today,” Alan Hart interviews Joseph Jaffe, co-founder at the HMS Beagle, author, consultant, keynote speaker, and thought leader on marketing and change. Jaffe's current book, “Built to Suck: The Inevitable Demise of the Corporation...and How to Save It?” addresses the ideas behind why companies are heading towards a collision course with their demise. Jaffe provides tangible ways to address how survival is a gift to right the wrongs to achieve preservation in our capitalist system.

Jaffe talks about the failing of business models and why marketing has to get better, extremely fast. Marketing may still not be enough to save corporations, without capitalism itself evolving. Jaffe also breaks down what he feels are the four pillars of how not to suck, which are: digital disruption, talent resurrection, customer obsession, and corporate citizenship. Digital was always meant to disrupt and turn businesses on their heads.

Jaffe talks about the HMS Beagle and its mission statement to help people adapt, “when we talk about digital, and we talk about social, and we talk about innovation and start-ups, at the end of the day, if you had to try and find one common thread and line that runs right through it would be the ability to change.” Jaffe talks about how companies lose their competitive edge when they are scaling with such a huge global footprint that they struggle to adapt quickly, “‘overhead, in and of itself, has become this cement block that is kind of dragging us down to the bottom of the ocean.” He also talks about how “losing money is the enemy or at least the foil of short-term ROI,” and why meetings that are only creating more meetings without creating tangible solutions are filled with “oxygen invaders” that aren't adding anything and are slowing down the process.

Highlights from this week's “Marketing Today”:

  • Where did Joseph start, and how did he get to where he is now? (01:55)
  • Why this book and why now? (05:32)
  • Are growth and scale a strength or a weakness? (11:03)
  • What does he mean by “age," “the nature of public ownership," and “culture”? (18:57)
  • Joseph talks about short-term return-on-investment. (26:48)
  • What are the four pillars of not sucking? (30:24)
  • What is the survival planning canvas, and what value does it provide to companies? (37:10)
  • What should marketers do and not do these days? (43:01)
  • Is there an experience in Joseph Jaffee's life that has defined who he is today? (48:03)
  • Do they have a Nando's in London? (50:30)
  • What advice would he give to his younger self? (51:42)
  • What fuels Phil to keep going in his career and life? (54:32)
  • Are there brands that he thinks we should pay attention to? (57:06)
  • Where does Joseph Jaffee see the future of marketing going? (1:00:52)


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02 Mar 2022301: The 7 Global Marketing Trends You Need to Know with Deloitte’s Jennifer Veenstra00:31:35

Jennifer Veenstra is the Executive Leader of the Deloitte Global CMO program.

In this episode, Alan and Jennifer discuss the Global CMO program, what it includes, as well as the other types of programs Deloitte offers to up-and-coming CMOs. As a part of her role, Jennifer helped conduct Deloitte's 2022 Global Marketing Trends Report where they discovered seven key trends marketers should pay attention to going into the new year. During the conversation, Jennifer helps describe their findings and how each of the seven trends can impact marketers' strategies today.

Later in the episode, Alan and Jennifer dig deep into three of them: building the intelligent creative engine, designing a human-first data experience, and elevating the hybrid experience. Listen to the full episode to learn why they are so important.

In this episode, you'll learn:

  • What global marketing trends you should pay attention to
  • Balancing human-first with data mining
  • Creating a cohesive customer experience

Key Highlights

[01:40] Jennifer was a professional shredder

[02:54] Jennifer's path to Deloitte

[04:20] What is Deloitte's CMO program

[06:12] Seven global marketing trends to watch

[10:34] Building the intelligent creative engine

[15:32] Designing a human-first data experience

[20:00] Elevating the hybrid experience

[22:22] Comparing experiences across industries

[24:28] An experience that defines Jennifer

[26:31] Jennifer's advice to her younger self

[27:05] What marketers should be learning more about

[28:09] The brands and causes Jennifer follows

[29:12] The biggest threat and opportunity for marketers

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08 Nov 201769: Davis Smith believes doing good and building a great business can go hand in hand00:33:54

In this week's episode of “Marketing Today,” Alan talks with Davis Smith, the founder and CEO of Cotopaxi, and outdoor gear company with a humanitarian mission at its core. It was his experience growing up and later serving missions in countries like the Dominican Republic, Peru, and Bolivia — where he witnessed extreme poverty firsthand — that planted the seeds for his career path, and the eventual founding of Cotopaxi.

In describing Cotopaxi, Smith says, “We're a brand. We're a brand that is about inspiring people to go out and do good. We're a brand that believes that capitalism can be a force for good in the world. A brand that believes that businesses need to look beyond their bottom lines to try find ways they can impact their communities and people around the world.”

About his values-driven approach, Smith adds, “I'm still learning…but I think if all of us start making these efforts, man, what a wonderful world we'll live in.”

Highlights from this week's “Marketing Today” podcast include:

  • Smith talks about witnessing poverty in the Dominican Republic as a child and realizing he wasn't any different than those kids, just luckier. (1:30)
  • The story of Edgar and his shoe-shine kit: A memory that fuels Smith's deep-seated feeling of responsibility. (2:52)
  • Self-examination of his talents led Smith down the entrepreneurial path. (5:57)
  • Doing good through the mechanism of business. (9:58)
  • Smith believes in capitalism as a force for good, and yet he feels it can be incredibly destructive — to people and the planet. (12:34)
  • Cotopaxi builds its do-good mission into every aspect of the brand. (14:47)
  • “People who love the outdoors want to connect to something bigger than themselves. (18:20)
  • Cotopaxi isn't looking to steal share, they want to expand the category. (19:24)
  • Smith describes Cotopaxi as a digitally native vertical brand. (24:26)
  • Smith on the future of marketing: Brands will need to connect with consumers using offline experiences. (31:00)

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09 Feb 2022298: Where Purpose Matters Most with Attest’s Jeremy King00:46:54

Jeremy King is the CEO and founder of Attest. It's a fast scaling SaaS technology business focused on the market research industry, based in London and New York. Prior to Attest, Jeremy spent nine years with McKinsey & Company. Undoubtedly, research is in his blood.

In this episode, Alan and Jeremy discuss his love of Marine life and how it spurred him to found Attest. Later on, they also talk about some research they jointly executed about purpose. Jeremy observes that “Purpose is the Tesla of marketing”, meaning everyone wants to talk about it, but is it really where marketers should focus?

Listen to the full interview as Alan and Jeremy “get under the hood” on how consumers actually perceive purpose and how marketers should be thinking about it in their strategies.

In this episode, you'll learn:

  • How “purpose is the Tesla of marketing”
  • Why having different brand differentiators is key
  • How to use research to understand your focus

Key Highlights

[01:58] Why Jeremy loves the Peacock Mantis Shrimp

[06:16] How Jeremy ended up founding a research firm

[08:58] What Attest does

[12:48] The Tesla of marketing

[17:01] Differentiating your brand outside of purpose

[19:19] The demographic breakdown

[21:55] How social media plays a role

[27:45] Consumer thoughts on brands' response to the pandemic

[35:05] An experience that defines Jeremy

[38:18] Jeremy's advice to his younger self

[39:09] What marketers should be learning more about

[41:38] The brands and organizations Jeremy follows

[44:08] The biggest threat or opportunity for marketers

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09 Aug 201756: Jeff Wurtzel unwraps Extra Gum’s winning campaign00:16:12

As part of an ongoing series of conversations with 2017 Effie-winning marketers, Alan Hart talks with Jeff Wurtzel, senior brand manager at Mars/Wrigley, who oversees the Extra Gum brand. They discuss Extra Gum's “Unwrapping A Love Story” campaign — everything from the key insight, music choice, and the steps and surprises Wurtzel's team faced along the way.

In the course of the interview, Wurtzel identifies two elements that are critical to the success of a brand: The ability to entertain and an eye ever-focused on the future. Speaking about brands, Wurtzel says: “There are so many ways they can entertain and reach and inform…and the opportunity to connect is huge. When you do it right, you can be so highly effective.” 

As for his eye on the future, Wurtzel opines, “I think the marketplace (consumers) will reward the companies that have the smartest vision and mission, and level of transparency…and I think that consumers, with the power that they have, will continue to ask for it.”

 

Highlights from this week's “Marketing Today” podcast include:

  • You have to give to get: Wurtzel discusses the key insight of the “Unwrapping A Love Story” campaign. (1:33)
  • Moving at the speed of success: “Unwrapping A Love Story” was a high-velocity super smash hit. (4:07)
  • The authenticity of the campaign propelled the effort. (5:02)
  • The proverbial sweet spot: A universal insight that appealed to everyone. (7:04)
  • Two elements in an effective marketing mix: Impact in the marketplace and emotional connection with consumers. (8:43)
  • Growing up, Wurtzel learned how to treat people the right way — with respect. (10:06)
  • That's entertainment! Wurtzel identifies the biggest opportunity for marketers today. (13:03)

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21 Oct 2020230: "I Quit" TV Show Star,  Mike D's BBQ00:36:12

On this 230th episode of “Marketing Today,” host Alan Hart interviews Michael De Los Santos, founder of Mike D's BBQ. Mike is a part of the entrepreneurs being profiled on the Discovery Channel Show, I Quit.

We start our conversation with Mike's background and how he found his way into the world of BBQ. With previous experience in the nonprofit sector and fighting for social justice, Mike believes that “if you have food, you can bring anybody in town to the table to talk while they're eating.” Then, Mike dives into his experience on the Discovery Channel reality show, I Quit, and how it has taught him so much about the benefits of networking and being uncomfortable.

Mike approaches his marketing and advertising in two ways; “one, to get sales, and two, to build that brand awareness, so people know who you are.” We talked about Mike's experience as a father when he lost his 6-month old son and how it changed his perspective on life. “Go after all your passions and what makes you happy. Otherwise, you might not get the chance to do that.” Lastly, Mike elaborates on the challenges and opportunities that come with the world's current climate, both from social justice to the pandemic!

Highlights from this week's “Marketing Today”:

  • Mike grew up all over the place but made his way to Durham. 1:28
  • Becoming a reality star was never something that Mike wanted to do. 2:14
  • Mike D's BBQ is a line of sauces and dry rubs that emerged on the scene in 2014 and have exploded ever since. 2:47
  • The draw to BBQ came from a love of the North Carolina BBQ that Mike would eat as a kid. 3:28
  • Different regions have their own styles of BBQ, and Mike tries to combine the best of all worlds. 4:41
  • Before getting into the world of BBQ, Mike and his wife were fighting for economic justice. 6:42
  • Getting people together over food is more effective than other methods. 7:54
  • It was a difficult transition from a steady paycheck to the life of an entrepreneur with a family. 8:44
  • Mike and his wife are very used to working together, so running a business together has been a smooth process. 10:05
  • Hispanic and African American roots inspired the unique flavors that one can find at Mike D's BBQ. 11:23
  • Brisket is Mike's favorite meat to work with, even though it is usually a Texas thing. 12:24
  • Working with the show has given Mike the ability to be comfortable with being uncomfortable. 13:20
  • What it was like working with three very outgoing and successful people as an introvert. 14:55
  • Now more than ever, businesses have to learn how to pivot when things aren't working. 16:13
  • After making his first sale and winning an award, Mike knew that he was onto something and had a business. 17:45
  • Having an already-established online business helped Mike D's pivot with the global pandemic. 18:48
  • Advertising/marketing to grow sales vs. advertising/marketing to increase brand recognition. 20:23
  • Social media ads and brand-awareness sponsorships are working very well right now. 21:02
  • Working with NASCAR isn't as difficult when working with the family-owned teams. 22:25
  • Living in a military family and moving around all the time prepared Mike to pivot and market himself. 24:41
  • Losing his son at only 6-months old changed Mike's perspective on life. 25:34
  • Mike's book, My Heart Warrior, chronicled the experience of losing a child through the father's eyes. 27:04


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17 Nov 2021286: Investing Deeply in Your Customer with GoDaddy’s CMO Fara Howard00:40:46

Fara Howard is the CMO of ​​GoDaddy where she oversees all marketing strategy and works with their internal creative team. 

In this episode, Alan and Fara talk about one her career background and GoDaddy's brand evolution over the last several years. One of the several charges Fara led has been their experimentation on branded entertainment, launching their docuseries “Made in America”. She describes the experience as truly inspiring, and she shares how it's performing as well as what they're learning from the project.

Later in the show they also discuss GoDaddy's branded pandemic campaign “Open We Stand” and how they were able to launch it so quickly through their internal creative agency. Fara's short answer? “The closer you can bring a creative organization to your business and to your business strategy, the better the work is.”

Listen to the full episode to hear more about how to keep and retain talent within a creative function inside your company as well as how to work with them effectively.

In this episode, you'll learn:

  • The value of knowing your customer
  • Creating gritty, authentic stories
  • How to work with creative teams effectively


Key Highlights:

  • [01:36] Fara's first job
  • [02:47] Fara's path to CMO
  • [05:32] Tips for changing the industry you work in
  • [06:58] GoDaddy's strategic journey of transformation
  • [09:45] The docuseries “Made in America”
  • [12:37] Investing deeply in your customer
  • [14:54] The “Open We Stand” campaign
  • [18:07] Generating content during the pandemic
  • [20:31] Finding and retaining creative talent 
  • [25:07] Where GoDaddy is going
  • [28:37] An experience that defines Fara, makes her who she is today
  • [32:23] Fara's advice to her younger self
  • [33:50] What marketers should be learning more about
  • [35:00] The brands and organizations Fara follows 
  • [38:55] The biggest threat to marketers today

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28 Dec 2022344: The Data of Decision Making with Greg Dolan, CEO at Keen Decision Systems00:38:53

Greg Dolan has over a decade of experience as a brand marketing executive. He co-founded Keen to give marketers a tool that could “help them make smarter decisions about how to drive their brand forward by using future-focused metrics that are directly tied to financial performance.” 

In this episode, Alan and Greg discuss how the work Keen is doing impacts marketing performance across the industry, what the data tells us about long help best practices, and why so many companies are working to strengthen first-party data relationships.

 In this episode, you'll learn: 

  • How companies should think about marketing in a downturn or recession
  • Greg's take on the reach versus targeting debate and what the data tells us
  • The importance of demonstrating the financial value of a marketing decision 

 Key Highlights 

  • [01:20] Greg's other full-time job
  • [02:50] How Greg became CEO at Keen
  • [04:00] What Keen does 
  • [06:50] Why marketers need to look at performance across all channels 
  • [10:20] What should marketers be thinking about when operating in a down economy
  • [15:00] Understanding the objective of the brand and how that frames decision making 
  • [15:55] What Keen is seeing with reach versus targeting 
  • [17:45] The rise of AI and machine learning in creative and marketing decision making
  • [19:50] What the data says about the 60/40 long-term/short-term rule of thumb
  • [22:55] How Keen is helping marketers transition from direct measurement to inference
  • [25:45] Two examples of why you need to consider diversification in measurements
  • [28:15] How persevering through adversity made Greg a better entrepreneur 
  • [30:00] The benefits of slowing down 
  • [31:15] Why organizations need to shift to a holistic strategic perspective 
  • [35:50] Embracing AI technology to win in the long term
  • [36:50] The need of being able to demonstrate the financial value of marketing 

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22 Dec 2020239: Media Assurance & Transparency Still a Global Issue with Rizwan Merchant00:44:05

On this 239th episode of "Marketing Today," host Alan Hart speaks with Rizwan Merchant, CEO at Media Merchant. Merchant is the first guest from Pakistan and brings over a decade of experience in the Pakistani Media Industry. Today, we talk about the 2016 ANA Transparency Report and how these issues are still present today, four years on.

We start our conversation with the exploding media industry in Pakistan, which has gone from less than $100M in advertising expenses to over $550M in just ten years. With that massive growth has come a plethora of problems, not only in Pakistan but also for marketers worldwide. Merchant has seen "exactly what goes on behind the doors." Merchant then takes us through the ANA Transparency Report that came out in 2016, which identified a myriad of problems and fraudulent practices among the agencies that bridge the gap between the media houses and advertisers. The advertisers have forgotten that "agencies are there in the business to make money as well," so their intentions may have nothing to do with the benefit of their client. Advertisers are still losing boatloads of money because of their inability to structure contracts for themselves. Merchant says, "the easiest way to plug that financial outlet is to start paying the media directly instead of going through the agencies."

Merchant suggested that the best way to battle this problem is for clients "to upgrade their knowledge when it comes to the media supply chain." Another problem now is that "many agencies have started to own the media that they are pushing to advertisers." It seems if there is money to be made, agencies will find a way. The onus is on marketers to be smarter and more vigilant.

Highlights from this week's "Marketing Today":

  • Rizwan currently lives in Pakistan, part of Southeast Asia, and is a growing market with a booming media industry. 1:45
  • The Pakistani media industry has grown from less than $100M in advertising expenses to $550M in the last ten years. 2:30
  • An accountant by education, Rizwan joined Mediacom on the finance side when he returned to Pakistan in 2004. 3:35
  • In 2015, Rizwan started his media audit agency, Media Merchant. 5:10
  • The ANA Transparency Report identified problems with the rebates received by the agencies based on advertiser money. 6:00
  • Principal transactions came up in the ANA Transparency report, showing that agencies were buying inventory through holding companies. 6:50
  • Agencies were found to be selling free inventory they received from the media houses to their marketing clients. 7:15
  • Advertisers were found to be trusting agencies blindly, a failure on the part of the advertisers. 7:47
  • Rizwan identified multiple problems that didn't come out in the ANA report. 8:15
  • Media Buying Houses came into existence by providing the agencies with multiple suggestions that acted as a financial bomb. 9:20
  • The agencies exploited the lack of connection between the advertising clients and the media outlets. 11:50
  • While there are specific rules and regulations in different countries, this is still a problem all over the world. 12:24
  • With media outlets being drained of their finances, their ability to create content is greatly affected. 14:30
  • The relationship between the media and advertising industries the opposite of what it should be right now. 16:00


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15 Mar 2023355: Brand at its Best and Focusing on Fundamentals with Heather Stern, CMO at Lippincott00:41:58

355: Brand at its Best and Focusing on Fundamentals with Heather Stern, CMO at Lippincott 

In this episode, Alan and Heather discuss Brand, the role of the CMO, and why focusing on the fundamentals will never go out of style. As an 80-year-old company, Lippincott has a unique perspective on how to balance the cutting edge with longevity. They have seen trends come and go and even shaped some of them along the way. Heather talks in depth about the role Brand has played historically, the huge impact it can have when viewed holistically, and why a siloed CMO is not as effective as it can be if they are given a seat at the table. She also discusses the fundamental shifts happening in the industry as things move from an institutional era of branding to a human era of branding but also stresses that the underlying fundamentals of deeply understanding your consumer and your brand are just as important now as ever before.

Heather Stern is the CMO at Lippincott and host of the podcast Icons in the Making. She wears many hats at Lippincott by managing all aspects of marketing, PR, and digital for their brand, as well as business development and sales. She oversees the entire funnel, from best-in-class brand activations to industry partnerships in collaboration with companies such as eBay, Google, IBM, Samsung, and Southwest Airlines. She has been at Lippincott for 10 years and serves as a trusted advisor to top clients across industries.

 In this episode, you'll learn: 

  • The ways Heather’s specific CMO role at Lippincott has evolved over the past 10 years.
  • How Lippincott stays relevant despite turning 80 this year.
  • What has changed in the industry and what has stayed the same.

 Key Highlights 

  • [01:40] It all started with Janet Jackson
  • [03:10] Heather's career path
  • [06:30] Why Heather’s CMO role is unique and a little meta
  • [08:20] How Heather's role has evolved over the past 10 years 
  • [11:55] What has changed and what has stayed the same for CMOs overall?
  • [16:00] The importance of being partnership oriented 
  • [18:10] How Lippencot is defining brand today
  • [21:20] How Lippincott is trying to take the “squishiness” out of branding
  • [21:55] How has building and managing a brand changed and stayed the same?
  • [25:00] It’s all about agility and experimentation 
  • [27:10] How gymnastics and a special Barbie inspired Heather's career ambition and work ethic
  • [30:40] Find the joy in making mistakes and embrace the gray zone
  • [31:40] Experimenting with AI and how brands are focusing on sustainability 
  • [34:40] Brands to watch
  • [38:20] Icons in the Making Podcast 
  • [39:15] The risk of missing the forest for the trees 

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08 Jan 2020189: Jim Geikie on creating a positive impact with One Better Ventures00:23:37

During this 189th episode of “Marketing Today,” host Alan Hart interviews Jim Geikie, one of the partners One Better Ventures. This recording took place before a live audience in Durham, NC. Jim spent 18 years Unilever, then joined Burt's Bees, where he led retail strategy, brand marketing, business development. He also led Cree's entry into consumer lighting and the commercial strategy for skincare maker, Lalumiere.

One Better Ventures nurtures and develops consumer brands that have a positive impact on the world. They advise, invest in, and incubate mission-driven ventures with breakthrough sustainable business models.

Jim shares the importance of purpose for the success of companies. "The world is full of problems, and there is nothing more powerful on the planet than business." He discusses the obligation for companies to leave the world a better place as they make profits. One Better Ventures has the ability to "play this nice balance of avoiding work we aren't good at, working a stage that we're good at, and being able to hand off appropriately."

Highlights from this week's “Marketing Today”:

  • How purpose directly impacts profit. 03:50
  • The way you can get big without "selling out." 07:07
  • The high BS meter of consumers. 08:25
  • One Better Ventures focus on "growth stage" ventures. 09:05
  • 5 things that matter when One Better Ventures looks at in potential companies. 13:02
  • One Better Ventures's focus on the health and wellness business. 15:43
  • Key "exits" for One Better Venture and 3 important lessons learned. 18:11
  • What's next for One Better Ventures? 21:42

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10 Oct 2018117: Craig Evans, Chief Creative Officer at Wunderman Seattle00:13:35

This is part of a 3-part series of episodes from “Marketing Today”.  Host Alan Hart interviews Craig Evans, Chief Creative Officer at Wunderman.  In this interview, Alan and Craig discuss the challenges related to modern creative departments as they deal with marketing across multiple, ever-changing channels and platforms.  They also discuss how AI is changing the world of marketing and the boundaries of personalization.

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Highlights from this week's “Marketing Today” podcast include:

  • 1:12 – Introducing Craig Evans
  • 1:30 – What skills are necessary for cross-channel experience design?
  • 2:32 – How are changing technologies changing creative departments?
  • 5:20 – Discussing AI and Wunderman's approach to it
  • 8:20 – What are some email personalization tactics that work well?
  • 9:43 – What advice would Craig give his younger self?
  • 10:40 – What is your best (go-to) source of information today?
  • 11:40 – What is one thing you love/hate?

3 Key Points:

  1. Modern creative departments need to bring together many, many skills – including data scientists, UX and developers (not just traditional designers).
  2. Creative ideas and strategies are more flexible and effective in the marketplace when they're informed by multiple disciplines (not just traditional designers).
  3. Technologies (and their influence on marketing) are changing rapidly and it's important to be an early-adopter and stay informed as technologies change.

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25 Jan 2023348: Having the Bravery to be a Change-Maker with Andrea Brimmer, Chief Marketing & Public Relations Officer at Ally Financial00:35:32

In this episode, Alan and Andrea discuss how she came to be the CMO of Ally, her approach to creating the brand, and how Ally is leaning into their role as a disrupter in the category to address pain points in the financial industry. Andrea also outlines how Ally is impacting women's sports, why that investment is so important for the future, and why it’s so important to her specifically. They talk about having courage as a marketer, the importance of being willing to do the right thing, and why companies need to understand the weight of their marketing dollars.

Andrea Brimmer is widely recognized as one of the country’s most innovative and effective marketing leaders. According to her, the secrets are collaboration, passion, and openness. At Ally, Andrea has a professional platform that intersects with her personal passion and she is using that unique privilege to make a real difference in the world. 

 In this episode, you'll learn: 

  • How Ally is showing up in authentic ways and changing the way people feel about their finances
  • The responsibility of banks in financial and social inclusion 
  • Why Andrea considers Ally one of the most tremendous success stories in American Business History

 Key Highlights 

  • [01:30] Being on Michigan State’s first D1 women’s soccer team
  • [02:30] Where Andrea got her start in her career and how she landed at Ally
  • [05:15] The narrative of short CMO tenures and the secrets to her success
  • [08:00] Modulating between being a wavemaker and a wave rider
  • [10:00] Allys transition to becoming a changemaker 
  • [12:30] How Ally is making an impact on women's sports 
  • [18:00] The Diversity and Inclusion strides Ally is making
  • [21:50] How Andrea found bravery as a leader
  • [23:50] The impact of losing her brother 
  • [25:50] Learning to enjoy the ride
  • [27:00] How brands show up in culture and what that means
  • [29:15] Brands to watch
  • [31:00] The changing role of the CMO and how that impacts the industry 
  • [32:00] The next wave and how to market marketing




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12 Sep 2018112: For Alex Withers of InMotionNow, data is king — but he still believes in the importance of creative00:33:46

This week on “Marketing Today,” Alan talks with Alex Withers, chief sales and marketing officer for InMotionNow, a creative workflow software platform that powers creative and marketing collaboration in the cloud. Withers is a seasoned digital technology marketing executive with previous experience working at Pepsi, ESPN, United States Golf Association, Financial Times, Sageworks, and LexisNexis.

In his conversation with Alan, Withers discusses the value InMotionNow can bring to marketers, particularly its ability to minimize the amount of time creatives spend on administrative tasks, the importance of data, and his belief that marketers should not lose sight of the power of creativity. InMotionNow recently released the 2018 In-house Creative Management Report, which highlights key trends and challenges internal teams are experiencing. Withers addresses the trend we're seeing of companies bringing creative work in-house and the reasoning behind it: “I think that CMOs are enjoying having creative teams in-house that understand the brand, live the brand day in and day out,” says Withers. “Therefore, they can ramp faster, turn projects quicker. With an outside agency, often they have to bounce between accounts and value props, whereas your in-house team lives and breathes the value prop every day.” 

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Highlights from this week's “Marketing Today” podcast include:

  • Withers describes the InMotionNow offering and talks about his dual role with the company. (2:03)
  • Withers on companies bringing creative work in-house: “It's undeniable…It's now a trend; it's not a single data point.” (4:56)
  • “You need data in to create a data argument out.” (9:27)
  • Withers talks about the year of the analytical creative: “What we're seeing is a shift toward creative leadership, at least, being more data-driven.” (11:01)
  • “A perfect storm to create more.” Withers details the growing demand for creative content. (13:55)
  • No wobbly wheels: Withers on the importance of the creative project intake. (17:20)
  • Withers' advice for CMOs tackling creative challenges: “Pay attention to the creative organization…If we don't pay attention to the creative, we're really losing the roots that got us into marketing in the first place” (24:44)
  • “The best thing that ever happened to marketing was the internet. And the worst thing that ever happened to marketing was the internet.” (30:28)

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07 Feb 201881: Allen Adamson and the challenge of a world that is spinning faster00:32:30

In this week's “Marketing Today,” Alan talks to Allen Adamson, co-founder and managing partner of the marketing company, Metaforce. Adamson is also the author of four books, the latest of which is “Shift Ahead: How the Best Companies Stay Relevant in a Fast-Changing World.”

During his conversation with Alan, Adamson touches on a wide variety of topics. In addition to talking about the issue facing companies today that serves as the title of his book, he addresses the challenge of people's resistance to change — though, intellectually, they know they should embrace it — and how it affects the companies they work for and lead. “The notion is familiar is comfortable,” says Adamson. “Yesterday is more comfortable than tomorrow. You have to go in with the mindset that human nature is resistant to change.”

He later weighs in on how a CMO can be an effective change agent for their company, something he refers to as “See and Seize.” In doing so, Adamson talks about the approach a successful CMO should employ: “The most successful ones need to be champions of what's happening in the marketplace and help the organization evolve. And the most successful ones move fast.”

Highlights from this week's “Marketing Today” podcast include:

  • Adamson describes the arc of his career, from agency life to working on the client side and in the world of branding. (1:47)
  • Adamson talks about his latest book and the nature of his collaboration with co-author, Joel Steckel. (4:42)
  • Adamson lists the convergence of factors contributing to the accelerating pace of change facing companies today. (6:59)
  • Cruise Control and The Gravitational Pull of Marty Crane's Chair. (8:59)
  • What happens when companies play too much tennis and not enough golf. (11:50)
  • Adamson relates his version of the Kodak moment; it's not a pretty picture. (15:34)
  • Adamson on his latest book: “It's a business book for business leaders.” (22:19)
  • “What gets me up in the morning is a problem that isn't easy.” (26:05)

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30 Sep 2016Avid Impact Podcast becomes Marketing Today with Alan Hart00:00:36

Today we are changing the name of our podcast from Avid Impact to Marketing Today with Alan Hart. Join Alan in the coming weeks for interviews with top marketers and thought leaders. Don't miss your change to learn from the best in the industry. Subscribe to Marketing Today with Alan Hart.

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26 Aug 2020222: Beyond the Bottle with PepsiCo's Scott Finlow00:39:39

During this 222nd episode of “Marketing Today,” host Alan Hart interviews Scott Finlow, the chief marketing officer of PepsiCo's foodservice business.

On the show today, we talk about PepsiCo's push into sustainability, specifically the Beyond the Bottle initiative. We also talk about PepsiCo and their foodservice division's beta testing of SodaStream Professional and many other topics. 

Finlow begins by talking about his long career with PepsiCo and the always energizing environment there. We then talk about PepsiCo's impressive sustainability initiatives. Finlow says, "we have a vision of a world where plastic will never become waste." Then we talk about SodaStream as part of the PepsiCo portfolio as well as SodaStream Professional. He says, "we did a ton of work to understand the different ways that people are now drinking water." The insights gained from this research led PepsiCo to see the connection between water consumption and big goals consumers have. Finlow tells us about the significant work PepsiCo is doing to serve communities during COVID-19, and he notes, "it's helped elevate our empathy muscle in terms of understanding people." This discussion highlights the way a mission-driven organization can make a real impact.

 

Highlights from this week's “Marketing Today”:

  • Scott's 21-year career at PepsiCo. 01:23
  • Other significant positions in Scott's career. 02:49
  • Explaining the foodservice side of the business. 06:41
  • PepsiCo's sustainability initiatives. 09:25
  • SodaStream Professional's place in PepsiCo's portfolio. 13:03
  • The SodaStream Professional experience. 14:52
  • Insights that helped launch the SodaStream Professional platform. 16:06
  • Beta testing for SodaStream Professional. 18:32
  • The impact of COVID-19 at PepsiCo. 20:23
  • Partnering with Guy Fieri and Bill Murray. 25:58
  • Scott shares a defining experience. 28:02
  • Scott reflects on advice he would give to his younger self. 29:48
  • Scott shares about an impactful purchase he made in the last 6-12 months. 32:41
  • Are there any brands, companies, or causes that Scott follows that he thinks other people should take notice of? 34:45
  • Scott's take on the top opportunity and threat facing marketers today. 37:34

 



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29 Jul 2022Renegade Marketers Unite: Two Drews Tackle Top CMO Challenges00:31:21

When Alan heard Drew's interview with himself on the top challenges facing CMOs on Renegade Marketers Unite, he knew he needed to share it with his audience. So we’re bringing the episode to you directly in a special Marketing Today show swap! Here’s the show description: 

CMOs have a lot on their minds lately, so let’s get into the mind of one, shall we? Or, even better, let’s get into the mind of host Drew Neisser, as he hosts a conversation with himself (is this what it feels like to be in his head?!) on all the things CMOs are thinking about right now and how they’re solving them. Sourced from the conversations happening at CMO Huddles, Drew (and Drew) cover everything from employee retention to proving brand value to managing a messy inbox, providing useful takeaways you can implement today. After this episode, even the busiest CMO will know how to reclaim 10+ hours of their time per week (Seriously!) and work more effectively than ever. Want to learn more about our CMO Huddles community? This just skims the surface of what top B2B CMOs of today are solving together...come join us! For full show notes and transcripts, visit https://renegade.com/podcasts/ To learn more about CMO Huddles, visit https://cmohuddles.com/

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24 Jun 2020213: Battling Bot Fraud with White Ops CMO Dan Lowden00:40:03

During this 213th episode of “Marketing Today,” host Alan Hart interviews Dan Lowden, the Chief Marketing Officer at White Ops.

On the show today, we talk about marketing and cybersecurity. We get into fraud and fraud detection, including two significant cases where White Ops was one of the leaders in identifying fraud. You're going to learn a lot about fraud and why marketers should care about it.

Lowden explains some of the complex problems White Ops addresses that marketers need to be thinking about today. He says, "The goal here is to ensure brands from a marketing integrity perspective, from an advertising integrity perspective, are engaging with real humans." We talk about the types of threats White Ops sees right now and how this bad data can affect marketing teams. Lowden says, "Every company in the world right now is being attacked." He encourages us to stand up to these threats. Then he tells two stories about how WhiteOps helped to identify fraud. He emphasizes, “We don't underestimate how smart these bad actors are." Throughout this episode, Lowden makes a case for why stopping fraud is a massive opportunity for marketers.

Highlights from this week's “Marketing Today”:

  • Dan's path from being a chef to becoming a marketing CMO. 01:33
  • What led Dan into the cybersecurity space. 03:15
  • The sophisticated problems White Ops addresses. 04:51
  • The growing demand for fraud prevention. 06:43
  • Using a tag on your sites to track bots. 14:35
  • The story of a group of bad actors WhiteOps helped detect. 16:06
  • The economics of cybercrime. 20:04
  • The Ice Bucket CTV fraud. 20:57
  • Recent investments in White Ops. 25:58
  • Marketing White Ops. 27:56
  • Is there an experience in his past that defines who he is today? 30:40
  • What is the advice Dan would give to his younger self? 32:34
  • The most impactful purchase he has made in the last 6-12 months of $100 or less. 34:40
  • Are there any brands, companies, or causes that Dan follows that he thinks other people should take notice of? 35:41
  • Dan's take on the top opportunity and threat facing marketers today. 37:59


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15 Nov 201770: Bob Hoffman: The Ad Contrarian strikes again00:32:27

This week's episode of “Marketing Today” is déjà vu all over again. Alan talks with Bob Hoffman, the first-ever return guest on the “Marketing Today” podcast. Hoffman, famously known as the Ad Contrarian, is an advertising veteran, best-selling author, and sought-after speaker and advisor. His latest book, “BadMen: How Advertising Went from a Minor Annoyance to a Major Menace,” provides Hoffman's view on the state of online advertising.

Hoffman casts an unflinching eye on today's marketers, and he doesn't mince words in discussing what he sees as the inherent evil in today's online marketing and the changes that are necessary: “We have to find a new model of online advertising that's not based on tracking, that's not based on surveillance and does not subvert our right to privacy.” He goes on to add, “We've turned the web into a nonstop marketing machine. And advertising used to be about imparting information, but now it's equally about collecting information.” 

Highlights from this week's “Marketing Today” podcast include:

  • Hoffman explains how his family's sense of humor and skepticism of authority shaped him. (1:38)
  • The need to get marketers to think more clearly and purposefully — and not adhere to the prevailing “wisdom.” (3:14)
  • Hoffman discusses the impetus behind his latest book. (5:16)
  • Hoffman calls for an end to tracking and surveillance marketing. (11:15)
  • “The ad industry, I think, is in the middle of a slow-motion nervous breakdown.” (15:52)
  • Hoffman's take on the problems with consolidation. (20:23)
  • Hoffman on income inequality: “It's all in the hands of category killers.” (23:46)
  • What Hoffman sees for the future of marketing: “I think it's going to be totalitarianism. The marketing industry is going to know everything about us and it's not going to be healthy.” (28:35)

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19 Jun 2019158: Jenny Rooney Editor of the Forbes CMO Network on the state of marketing00:44:01

This week on the “Marketing Today” podcast, Alan talks with Jenny Rooney, editor of the CMO Network at Forbes. Rooney, who also runs initiatives at Forbes such as the CMO Summit and the Forbes CMO University Alumni series, has 25 years of experience as a business journalist, including as a reporter and editor of CMO Strategy at Advertising Age, editor-in-chief in sales and marketing management at VNU, contributing editor at Chief Executive Magazine, and senior writer at Business 2.0.

During their discussion, Rooney discusses the role of CMOs, what is taking place in marketing currently, as well as the opportunities, popular developments, and challenges that CMOs are faced with. If you have been just as concerned about the decline of available marketing talent as the industry has, stay tuned for Jenny's insights on what can revive this troubling trend. With her contributions and research into the ever-changing marketing space, Rooney shares what marketing leaders are up against right now.

Rooney shares her take on situations that CMOs are encountering: "CMOs need to be driving business growth," says Rooney. "They say that CMOs are on the hot seat. And I think that is because they are constantly trying to balance short term wins against true long-term brand building." Rooney goes on to state, "we are also judging people based on innovation and change, and to do that as a CMO, I would imagine, you feel sort of this pressure to want to experiment with things and new technologies."

Highlights from this week's "Marketing Today":

  • Jenny Rooney discusses herself and how she got her start in her career. (01:15)
  • Does Jenny have an interest in working as a CMO? (04:50)
  • How does Jenny feel about the state of marketing today? (06:55)
  • Does Jenny believe the role of the CMO is changing? (09:54)
  • Who is impressing her these days? (12:21)
  • What is being done about the talent issue in the industry? (15:14)
  • Jenny describes the Forbes CMO University Alumni series. (18:01)
  • How does Jenny make sense of all of the things that are influx in the industry? (22:27)
  • What is on the horizon for marketing leaders? (26:31)
  • Are there any threats to CMOs? (30:05)
  • Has there been an experience in Jenny Rooney's past that made her who she is today? (32:59)
  • What advice would Jenny give her younger self? (37:08)
  • What drives Jenny these days? (38:35)
  • Are there any companies, brands, or organizations that Jenny believes marketers should pay attention to? (39:04)
  • What does Jenny Rooney see for the future of marketing? (41:10) 





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06 Mar 2019139: Professor Michael Platt connects neuroscience with brand choice and loyalty00:48:10

In this week's episode of "Marketing Today," Alan talks with Michael Platt, who is the James S. Riepe University Professor at the University of Pennsylvania. He also holds three professorships there: in marketing at the Wharton School; in neuroscience at the Perelman School of Medicine; and in psychology at the university's School of Arts and Sciences. In addition, he is the director of the Wharton Neuroscience Initiative.

In the course of their discussion, Pratt talks at length about an article he co-authored with Leslie Zane, "Cracking the Code on Brand Growth," as well as a yet-to-be-published study regarding people's feelings about and affinities for their smartphones and how that relates to brand choice and loyalty.

He also touches on the risks big brands face in not innovating, the even greater impact neuroscience will have in the future on marketing, advertising and design, and, last but not least, how his polymathic ways fuel his passion. 

"I'm very passionate about what I do; I'm very passionate about connecting all these disciplines," says Platt. "One of the things that drew me to Wharton and Penn, however, which is new in terms of opportunity, is really making the science applicable, making it useful for people — whether they're in business or in society in general. How can we take all of what we're doing here in the academy and in the sciences and translate it and make it accessible, so people understand it, so they're interested in it? And actually give them tools to reach their own kind of peak performance and ultimately enhance their own well-being."

Highlights from this week's “Marketing Today” podcast include: 

  • From anthropology to neuroscience, Platt discusses his background and how he is “trying to understand how our brains decide.” (1:31)
  • Marketing, neuroscience, and psychology: Platt on his multidisciplinary balancing act. (7:14)
  • “Cracking the Code on Brand Growth” — Platt talks about the article (and podcast) he collaborated on with Leslie Zane. (9:15)
  • Platt elaborates on a relational hypothesis of branding. (12:51)
  • Platt defines and explains just what a “connectome” is, and he discusses the Human Connectome Project and its implications for marketers. (20:38)
  • “In some cases, neuroscience will provide better return on investment than you get if you're just using survey and self-report techniques.” (31:22)
  • Don't be a dopamine: Platt explains how Dollar Shave Club's innovative approach gave consumers' brains a jolt. (33:46)
  • Platt's ability to move among different disciplines dates back to his high school days. (40:47)
  • The future of marketing and its connection to neuroscience. (46:28)




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10 Apr 2019146: Alan Schulman’s jazz sensibility and creative vision00:28:19

 

At the Adobe Summit, Alan sat down with Alan Schulman, managing director and chief creative officer at Deloitte Digital US. Schulman discusses Deloitte Digital's scope of capabilities and offerings: everything from a customer strategy and applied design capability to help clients imagine products and services they don't have but might need to designing and prototype building to its advertising and e-commerce offerings.

In the course of their conversation, Schulman talked about the modern relationship between CMOs and CIOs (“The way you run marketing versus the way you engage the customer is really a team sport.”); the dawning of the age of AI; how being a jazz musician has informed his career as a creative leader; and the velocity of technological change and its impact on culture, content, and creativity. 

Highlights from this Marketing Today conversation include:

  • Schulman details Deloitte Digital's considerable breadth of offerings. (:48)
  • In tandem: How CMOs and CIOs now have to work together. (5:24)
  • Siren song: the seduction period of AI and where creative fits in its world. (9:16)
  • Ready for your solo? Schulman's jazz background informs how he builds creative teams. (13:17)
  • Schulman talks about “content at the speed of culture.” (17:46)
  • Schulman: “People say content is king. I say, context is king.” (21:14)
  • Three key things for Schulman: purpose, point of view, and personality. (24:11)

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16 Feb 2022299: Tackling Complex Business Problems with Boeing’s Ed Dandridge00:45:37

Ed Dandridge is the Senior Vice President and Chief Communications Officer at the Boeing Company. In this role, he serves on the executive council and oversees all aspects of Boeing's communications.

In this episode, Alan and Ed discuss the many executive roles he has had in the past. They also discuss what attracts him to challenging the assignments like AIG after the financial crisis, or Boeing after the CEO transitions, as well as the max airplane challenges that the company has gone through.

Listen to the full conversation to learn more about how Ed tackles complex business problems and how empathy is a key characteristic of diplomacy.

In this episode, you'll learn:

  • Where diplomacy and business intersect
  • How to tackle complex business problems
  • Why empathy is a key characteristic of diplomacy

Key Highlights

[02:50] Ed's favorite memories living abroad

[05:25] How Ed got into Tufts

[09:13] Hired on at ABC

[11:30] The intersection of diplomacy and business in Ed's career

[17:09] How Ed finds his next challenge

[19:29] What to think about when solving complex business problems

[21:15] What's coming for marketers in 2022?

[24:04] The balance of external vs. internal

[27:49] Ed's advice on retaining top talent

[31:02] Empathy is the heart of diplomacy

[37:05] An experience that defines Ed

[40:15] Ed's advice to his younger self

[41:01] What marketers should be learning more about

[42:14] The brands and organizations Ed follows

[43:23] The biggest threat and opportunity for marketers

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19 Sep 2018113: Chris Moloney of TaxSlayer blends the personal and professional to create marketing success00:31:39

In this episode of “Marketing Today,” Alan speaks with Chris Moloney, chief marketing officer at TaxSlayer. Prior to joining TaxSlayer, Moloney served as CMO at CAN Capital and CEO at Gremlin Social, and he has held key roles at brands like Wells Fargo Advisors, Scottrade, and Experian.

In this wide-ranging conversation, Moloney shares, among other things, how the original Apple Macintosh computer inspired a sensibility that led to his career in marketing and how the combination of his personal and business lives make him a more effective marketer.

He also talks about how challenger brands can thrive in competition with more established rivals. “If you are a challenger brand,” says Moloney, “take advantage of the fact that bigger companies sometimes move a lot slower and have more bureaucracy, and it takes them a while to make decisions. If you can be nimbler and faster, you can take advantage of market trends much more quickly.”

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Highlights from this week's “Marketing Today” podcast include:

  • Moloney talks about his background, what led him to marketing, and his career path. (1:23)
  • Moloney reveals three lessons he's learned from his mentors. (8:03)
  • Serving two markets well has led to transformational growth for TaxSlayer. (11:16)
  • Advice for CMOs looking to drive growth: “You have to master the digital space first.” (11:56)
  • Having fun in a category not known for fun: How TaxSlayer goes to market. (13:37)
  • Moloney's perspective on creating content that works: “It's a balancing act.” (19:13)
  • Moloney discusses how personal touchstones play an important role in his career. (22:58)
  • Moloney on the future of marketing: “I think that marketing is going to have to evolve to really go down the path of understanding what emotions that you're evoking in people in a digital world.” (28:46)

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10 Oct 2018116: Molly Crawford, VP/Group Creative Director at Digitas00:10:36

This is part of a 3-part series of episodes from “Marketing Today”.  Host Alan Hart interviews Molly Crawford, VP and Creative Director at Digitas Atlanta.  In this interview, Alan and Molly discuss strategies for conveying messaging across multiple marketing channels (email, web, social, etc.).  They discuss how to utilize modern personalization elements and ways to balance consistent messaging with the features and audience types for different channels.

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Highlights from this week's “Marketing Today” podcast include:

  • 1:03 – Introducing Molly Crawford
  • 1:20 – How do you define cross-channel design
  • 2:00 – When is it done right?
  • 2:45 – What considerations should creatives be thinking about?
  • 4:20 – How do you balance consistency with each channel's unique features?
  • 5:35 – What are personalization tactics (in email) that work best?
  • 6:35 – What are pitfalls to be aware of?
  • 7:28 – What advice would you give your younger self?
  • 8:35 – What's your best (go-to) source of information?
  • 9:20 – What do you love/despise?

3 Key Points:

  1. Cross-channel design is effective when customers have a consistent experience that drives engagement and builds loyalty.
  2. It is important to have a content strategy for different channels to define what each channel is doing to benefit the larger marketing message.
  3. Personalization is powerful, but we need to know where the line is between being helpful and invasive.

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03 Mar 2021249: What Radicalization Means to a Brand Marketer with Yonder CEO Jonathon Morgan00:44:52

On this 249th episode of "Marketing Today," host Alan Hart speaks with Jonathon Morgan, the founder and CEO of Yonder, an AI company that helps Fortune 500 communication teams identify and counteract online disinformation about issues that matter to their organization. 

In this episode, Morgan talks about the power of groups with extreme ideals and how thought radicalization can mean something different for marketers. 

Our conversation starts with understanding Yonder's mission and how the company originated. Early in his career, Morgan conducted internet research, advising the state department on how they could counter the impact of online radicalization worldwide. 

Morgan explains that the modern concept of the internet is based on a fundamental premise — "there is wisdom in the crowd." He soon found out, however, that "if you value crowds, you inadvertently value mobs," and that someone who manipulates social platforms can have an immeasurable amount of power in swaying the crowd's thinking. 

From there, Morgan provides insights on the pros and cons of social media censoring and how easily misinformation and extremist ideals can leak into mainstream media. Finally, he talks about how the idea of radicalization isn't always a bad thing when it comes to brand marketing.

 

In this episode, you'll learn:

  • The vulnerability of the internet and our social ecosystem
  • What contributes to the origins of radical groups and how misinformation can spread
  • The difference between good and bad radicalization
  • The importance of authentically communicating your company's values
  • How to build a coalition for your brand and leverage communication better

 

Key Highlights:

  • [02:16] Yonder's mission and how they got started
  • [05:46] How a person can have an incredible influence on the way the public thinks
  • [07:44] Motivations behind a mob; looking at the riots on the Capitol
  • [11:17] The pros and cons of censoring on social platforms
  • [15:21] How radical ideals spread into mainstream media
  • [18:40] When radicalization isn't always a bad thing
  • [24:00] Jonathon's advice to brand marketers about building a network
  • [32:53] How taking a stand is complicated but essential
  • [35:02] An experience that defines Jonathon made him who he is today
  • [36:27] Jonathon's advice to his younger self
  • [37:38] An impactful purchase Jonathon has recently made
  • [41:15] The brands, companies, and causes Jonathon follows
  • [42:38] What Jonathon thinks is the biggest opportunity for marketers today

 

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19 Feb 2020195: Planet Fitness with new CMO Jeremy Tucker00:37:12

During this 195th episode of “Marketing Today,” host Alan Hart interviews Jeremy "JT" Tucker, the new CMO of Planet Fitness. Tucker has worked for world-renowned brands such as Frito-Lay, PepsiCo, Disney, and Nissan. 

We discuss JT's background and his first few weeks at Planet Fitness, including his strategy for jumping headfirst into big changes at a new company. Jeremy shares what changes he made quickly after arriving, the actions he saw others taking in the fitness space, and what inspired the successful "Bull Fit" campaign.

Tucker also addresses the importance of approaching marketing from a human and emotive space. He remarks that as they collected research, "We really just wanted to understand the perceptions that kept people from actually coming into a club." When describing the exhilaration of kicking off their ad campaign in Times Square on New Year's Eve, he advises, "There are a lot of crowded big moments out there. It's so hard to breakthrough, but if you're authentic, and it makes sense, you can nail it." Tucker also reflects on the creative aspects of his work when he says, "Good ideas come from anywhere and everywhere." Tucker's optimism and leadership will inspire you to approach your work with curiosity and joy.

 

Highlights from this week's “Marketing Today”:

  • JT's background and how he ended up at Planet Fitness. 01:34
  • JT describes opportunities he had to work for brands where brand drives business decisions. 04:51
  • JT describes jumping into Planet Fitness during their busy season and the challenges of jumping in headfirst. 06:23
  • Learn about the changes JT made very quickly upon joining Planet Fitness. 08:58
  • Why JT believes in the business and how he feels Planet Fitness can break down barriers to support regular Americans. 10:59
  • Learn about the research that went into the Bull Fit ad campaign. 12:13
  • Some of the best social content they've ever created was when they had kids scrub fitspo accounts on Instagram. 14:37
  • The importance of addressing marketing from a human and emotive place. 15:54
  • They discuss the eight and twelve-minute circuits at Planet Fitness for people who want quick workouts. 16:51
  • The rewards of marketing that desires to change behavior in meaningful and purposeful ways. 19:27
  • JT tells us about the experience of kicking off their ad campaign on New Year's in Times Square. 21:51
  • What's coming next for JT in 2020? 23:51
  • Is there an experience in his past that defines who he is today? 26:15
  • What advice would JT give his younger self if he had to start all over? 28:02
  • Are there any brands, companies, or causes that JT follows that he thinks other people should take notice of? 30:15
  • As a marketer, what does he feel the biggest opportunity or threat that is facing marketers? 32:45


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20 Jul 2022321: Brand Building and Revitalization with Ferrero’s Mark Wakefield00:40:09

Mark Wakefield, senior vice president of marketing of premium chocolate at Ferrero is obsessed with the emotional benefit that brands bring to their consumers. That’s why, in this episode, Mark gives us a masterclass in brand building and revitalization. Get out your pens, you’re going to want to take notes.

Alan and Mark also talk about his career path to Ferrero, how sales and marketing should always go hand-in-hand, and his work on a number of interesting campaigns and brands like TicTac, Kinder Joy, Baby Ruth, and the premium chocolate, Ferrero Rocher.

In this episode, you'll learn:

  • Steps to revitalizing a nostalgic brand
  • How Ferrero is capitalizing on the “premiumization” trend
  • The importance of understanding customers’ social and psychological motivations

Key Highlights

  • [04:00] Mark's career journey
  • [10:09] All about Ferrero
  • [12:48] Steps to brand stewardship and revitalization, including acquisition of Baby Ruth
  • [19:07] Capitalizing on the “premiumization” trend
  • [24:48] Advice on finding a pathway to new growth
  • [31:17] An experience that defines Mark
  • [32:28] Mark's advice for his younger self
  • [32:52] What marketers should be learning more about
  • [35:03] Brands Mark is fascinated by
  • [37:15] The biggest opportunity and threat for marketers today

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18 Jan 2023347: The Business Benefits of Continued Education with Michelle Boockoff-Bajdek, CMO at Skillsoft00:43:37

In this episode, Alan and Michelle discuss their mentors and role models, Michelle's priorities as CMO, and why hearing directly from customers helps her ensure Skillsoft is preparing today's workforce for tomorrow's economy. 

Michelle Boockoff-Bajdek is a big proponent of continual learning and believes development and growth should be accessible to all. She is passionate about making learning fun and gets to do just that as CMO at Skillsoft. As CMO she is responsible for leading the global marketing strategy and increasing demand for Skillsoft’s solutions by understanding people don't want to be marketed to, they want to be communicated with. 

 In this episode, you'll learn: 

  • What jobs will be most in demand in the future and the current skills gap
  • The importance of marketers also understand the financials of the business
  • Why Michelle puts such an emphasis on investing in leadership training 

 Key Highlights 

  • [01:25] Michelle’s Professional and Personal Role Models 
  • [06:30] Michelle's journey to becoming CMO of Skillsoft
  • [10:15] What is Skillsoft and who do they serve?
  • [13:45] Most in-demand roles and the skill gap
  • [14:15] Skillsofts tops 3 business priorities
  • [16:40] Skillsofts top 4 marketing priorities 
  • [20:40] The importance of cross-functional training and curiosity 
  • [23:00] The importance of training first-time managers
  • [25:40] Sustainability initiatives at Skillsoft
  • [29:15] How 9/11 impacted Michelle's leadership style 
  • [35:05] Learn to give yourself grace
  • [37:10] Markets have to be business people first 
  • [38:25] Brands and causes that are impressing Michelle right now
  • [40:30] The threat of not investing in training for the future
  • [41:25] The importance of values alignments and authentic communication 

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25 Nov 2020235: Leading 2X Growth with Steve Schlesinger in the Market Research Industry00:36:33

On this 235th episode of "Marketing Today," host Alan Hart speaks with Steve Schlesinger, founder and CEO of Schlesinger Group, a market research company. Schlesinger has been a part of the family business for over 35 years, working to take the company to greater heights than it has ever seen!

We start our conversation with the history of Schlesinger Group and how Schlesinger's mother's affinity for hard work set the foundation for years to come. Over the last 35 years, Schlesinger Group has experienced multiple chapters of growth. "The goal for us is really to maintain a nimble and agile approach to how we run the business and how we build the business," Schlesinger says regarding that growth. Schlesinger then dives into the recent partnership with the private equity firm Gauge Capital and how that has led to the company doubling in size in just the last 14 months. Schlesinger talks about the best ways to ensure success when growing a business and how it's vitally important to "make sure you have a great team around you."

We then talk about Schlesinger's angel and private investments. When I ask what Schlesinger's criteria are when deciding what businesses to invest in, he says, "at the end of the day, I actually look at the people first, then the idea." Schlesinger knows that people, whether they be employees or clients, are a critical component to any business's success!

Highlights from this week's "Marketing Today":

  • Steve lives in New York City and had COVID back in March, but he didn't find out until his knee surgery in May. 1:31
  • Taking a year off from grad school at Georgetown, Steve worked in project management for his mother's research company. 2:36
  • Steve's mom was a hard worker and really enjoyed talking to people, but that didn't necessarily make her a natural entrepreneur. 4:13
  • Growing up in the depression helped Steve's mom set the foundation for her company and her family. 5:10
  • In his youth, Steve and his siblings always did what they could to contribute to the business whenever they could. 5:42
  • Over the last 35 years, there have been multiple chapters in the family business that has seen drastic change and growth. 6:47
  • Bringing in Gauge Capital as a private equity partner helps set the business up for its next chapter as more digitally focused. 7:45
  • Finding a private equity partner helped Steve and his partner further craft their strategy moving into the future. 8:29
  • Quantitative and online qualitative sectors saw massive growth after partnering with Gauge. 9:40
  • Massive growth to different markets all over the world has left gaps that present an opportunity to make the process more seamless. 11:15
  • Steve looks at the time horizon in two ways regarding Gauge Capital and the business itself. 12:30
  • To help your business grow significantly, make sure you have the right team around you. 13:26
  • Keep a good handle on the market and what your clients think of you at all times. 13:55
  • Don't let that desire slip away. It's only going to become more challenging as you grow. 14:15
  • The Insight industry's future consists of brands utilizing technology to have a greater understanding of consumer demands. 15:13
  • After acquiring Market Cube, Steve's business has transformed from a user to a developer. 17:30
  • Many industries are trying to leverage tech and create products but have left the critical people component behind. 18:56


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27 Apr 2022309: The Power of Streaming Ads with Roku’s Jordan Rost00:31:19

As the Head of Ad Marketing at Roku, Jordan Rost helps marketers understand shifting media behavior, re-imagine storytelling for the Streaming Decade, and make better ads. Prior to joining Roku, Jordan held leadership roles at Google, Nielsen, Adaptly, and Accenture.

On the show today, Alan and Jordan discuss why buyers should prioritize streaming in their ad strategy, and why Roku expects this year to be the first truly streaming-first Upfront. They also dive into the ways media is changing and how to tailor ad experiences to your audience.

Listen in to learn more.

In this episode, you'll learn:

  • How to achieve brand impact and measurability with streaming ads
  • The future of Upfronts
  • Ways to tailor experiences to your audience

Key Highlights

  • [02:30] Jordan's guiding principle on his journey to Roku
  • [04:30] Orienting to consumers' perspectives
  • [08:30] Opportunities for performance marketing on streaming platforms
  • [14:30] The future of Upfronts
  • [17:00] Delivering better audience experiences
  • [21:00] Incorporating brand stories in streaming naturally
  • [23:30] Experiences that define Jordan
  • [24:30] Jordan's advice for his younger self
  • [25:30] What marketers should be learning more about
  • [30:30] The biggest opportunity for marketers today

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25 Sep 2019172: Creating Clothing for Kindness with Ashley Daly of BeCandylicious00:50:48

During this episode of "Marketing Today,” host Alan Hart interviews Ashley Daly, president and founder at BeCandylicious. Before becoming an entrepreneur, Daly was the senior vice president of global marketing at Experian Marketing Service. BeCandylicous, a direct-to-consumer fashion brand, is a dream come true for Daly. She discusses growing the sales of BeCandylcious through social media, digital promotion, and word-of-mouth, expanding the company's reach by signing her first retail distribution deal with Dylan's Candy Bar, and what inspires the company's concept of kindness.

Daly talks about turning 40 and wanting to spend more time with her family. She delves into how her passion for design and her over 15 years of marketing experience came together to push her towards creating BeCandylicious. Having a young daughter that likes to dress like her and not finding the right options opened a niche that needed filling for Daly. BeCandylicious makes the clothing in youth sizes also available in adult sizes. With a focus on paying it forward, the brand reinforces positivity and kindness, and the fact that sometimes your clothes can do the smiling for you. 

How did technology play a role in Daly's career? "I have always been, throughout my career, at the forefront of technology, doing a lot of education on the benefits of the technology."

 Living in an era of high technological advancement has been helpful because, "we have more opportunities than we've ever had because of that technology and we've actually built our website and e-commerce platform on Shopify, where originally I wanted to build something from the ground up." What advice does Daly have for start-ups and entrepreneurs? "An idea is only as good as it is executed. So many people will have ideas. It's those that actually are willing to implement them and put in the hard work and chase after it and make it a reality that separates those from just ideas."

Highlights from this week's “Marketing Today”:

  • Why did Ashley Daly leave the world of marketing to start BeCandylicious? (01:31)
  • What was Ashley's career path and who helped to spark it? (02:50)
  • When did you know that you had a company and not just an idea? (07:41)
  • Ashley talks about what BeCandylicious is and how the merging of candy and clothes came about. (12:32)
  • How did Ashley respond when she had a few doubters early on? (21:37)
  • What is the “Collection of Hope?” (22:24)
  • How did Ashley launch BeCandylicious? (26:10)
  • In the first three months, BeCandylicious sold to every single state in the United States. (28:55)
  • What were the biggest adjustments to becoming an entrepreneur? (30:55)
  • How is she focusing on growth now moving forward? (33:37)
  • How has feedback influenced the brand? (37:00)
  • Does she have any concerns about the marketplace? (40:08)
  • Is there an experience in Ashley's life that has defined who she is today? (45:27)
  • What advice would she give to her younger self? (46:43)
  • What fuels Ashley to keep going in his career and life? (47:00)
  • Are there brands that she thinks we should pay attention to? (47:46)
  • Where does Ashley Daly see the future of marketing going? (49:16)




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25 Jan 2022Bonus: What if? So what? podcast interview of Alan Hart00:35:51

What if the key to digital success is getting back to basics? An Interview With Alan Hart.

This is a special feed drop from What if? So what? podcast.  Check them out!

In this episode, Kim talks with Alan Hart, creator, and host of “Marketing Today with Alan Hart,” about why he thinks marketing teams need to be blown up, re-organized, and get back to basics to succeed in today's environment.

Connect with Alan Hart, the creator, and host of “Marketing Today with Alan Hart,” a weekly podcast where he interviews leading global marketing professionals and business leaders.

Connect with our hosts Jim Hertzfeld, Principal and Chief Strategist for Perficient, and Kim Williams-Czopek, Director of Digital Strategy at Perficient.

Keywords: digital marketing, personalization, customization, ai

Publish date: Jan 25

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02 Sep 2020223: Modernizing OOH with Ubimo's Norm Chait00:30:07

During this 223rd episode of “Marketing Today,” host Alan Hart interviews Norm Chait, the Head of Out-of-Home Service at Ubimo.

On the program today, we modernize my definition of out-of-home based on what Ubimo is doing with its location-based intelligence offering and bringing audience understanding, location, and traffic monitoring to an old medium. The updated view Chait shares on what out-of-home should look like today can expand what's possible for marketers.

Chait begins by talking about what attracted him to the out-of-home space and how Ubimo uses location intelligence to understand what people do throughout their day. We then discuss how technology has dramatically changed the out-of-home space by helping marketers understand where a particular audience is originating from and where they're going. Chait says, "it all basically starts and ends with audiences and understanding what these folks are doing and how do we tie them back to a physical location." Then we talk about how marketers can leverage these data points in the out-of-home space and how privacy is handled. He says, "every signal we see, every segment that's built, is based on opt-in data, and it's all based on location services." We then talk about how Ubimo has approached data during COVID and how the current environment presents marketers opportunities to connect with shoppers when they're thinking about shopping.

Highlights from this week's “Marketing Today”:

  • What attracted Norm to out-of-home. 01:09
  • Learn about Ubimo. 02:49
  • How Quotient fits into the mix. 04:26
  • Bringing measurement to behavior that would otherwise be a void. 05:49
  • How marketers can work with Ubimo. 07:38
  • The digital out-of-home DSP. 08:56
  • Different elements of the data that can be leveraged to understand the traffic of out-of-home placement. 10:50
  • How privacy is handled in this environment. 13:14
  • COVID dashboards. 14:29
  • How marketers should be thinking about marketing differently during this time. 19:40
  • Norm shares a defining experience. 21:52
  • Norm reflects on advice he would give to his younger self. 23:29
  • Norm shares about an impactful purchase he made in the last 6-12 months. 24:27
  • Are there any brands, companies, or causes that Norm follows that he thinks other people should notice? 25:58
  • Norm's take on the top opportunity and threat facing marketers today. 27:59

 

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15 May 2019153: Bill Macaitis on scaling brands like Slack, Zendesk, & Salesforce00:37:37

This week on Marketing Today, Alan speaks with Bill Macaitis, a man that needs no introduction. He has been involved in 5 highly successful tech industry exists with companies such as IGN, Salesforce.com, Zendesk, and Slack. He now enjoys teaching tech founders how to grow and scale their business via sophisticated MarTech stacks and a customer-centric approach to marketing. Macaitis' mindset is that B2B marketers should be innovating the go-to-market strategy on the marketing side as much as they do on the product side.

Macaitis recognizes that many B2B companies feel the need to play it safe and take a very bland approach to branding, and this a great opportunity for those willing to take risks to stand out. He tells stories of how his teams at Zendesk and Slack disrupted conventional customer branding opportunities by making simple things such as logos, loading messages and release notes fun and whimsical.

According to Macaitis, “Your brand is the sum of all the little experiences that someone has with your company. Optimizing around each of these experiences, coming up with the right metric, and pivoting” are what leads to a successful recommendation of your product/service.

Highlights from this Marketing Today conversation include:

  • Macaitis' first startup experience in the B2C space was a great lesson in bootstrapping (1:40)
  • Macaitis brought a Consumer DNA to Salesforce.com (3:20)
  • Macaitis' team disrupted the basic pricing and packaging model at Slack (5:40)
  • Macaitis encourages B2B companies to take risks to develop an emotional connection with their users (9:30)
  • “Everyone does the basics...I like going a few steps further:” Macaitis on using more sophisticated marketing tech stacks (predictive lead scoring, multi-touch attribution, multivariate testing, net promoter score (NPS), etc.) (11:56)
  • Macaitis discusses tips for improving multi-touch attribution models (15:15)
  • It's a really fun debate: Macatais on brand marketing vs performance marketing (17:42)
  • Macaitis on how the B2B space needs more Customer Centricity (22:34)
  • Macatis tells us what he loves about helping companies grow (25:15)
  • Macaitis discusses qualities he looks for in a Founder (26:35)
  • “Be opportunistic:” Macaitis gives sound advice from his career (29:39)
  • Macaitis says the focus should be on lifetime revenue and customer centricity ([34:30]) 

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20 Jan 2021243: Hispanic Business at PepsiCo with Esperanza Teasdale00:53:48

On this 243rd episode of "Marketing Today," host Alan Hart speaks with Esperanza Teasdale, vice president and general manager of the Hispanic Business Unit for Pepsico Beverages North America. Teasdale is responsible for the overall strategy, engagement, and sales for a Hispanic business unit that brings in over $2 billion per year.

We start our conversation with Teasdale's experience from growing up with two parents that had both immigrated to the US from Ecuador in search of a better life. Since they both had demanding blue-collar jobs, Teasdale "grew up as a latch key kid," taking herself to and from school as a child, essentially responsible for herself. Teasdale then discusses her engineering education, spending time in manufacturing environments after graduation until attaining her MBA and ultimately moving onto sales. Once Teasdale realized that the sales sector wasn't for her, she moved to marketing.

We then dive into the Hispanic business unit and the "untapped potential" that led to its creation. Now and into the future, Teasdale and her team are focused on multicultural marketing, as "everything we do should be multicultural because that is the fabric of our country." Teasdale takes us through the helping hands she received throughout her career as a result of her willingness to be vulnerable. "You don't have to wait for someone to ask you to take a seat; you can take it yourself." Lastly, we discuss the opportunity that marketers have today to think differently about their previously rejected ideas because "the world today is different than it was before!"

 

Highlights from this week's "Marketing Today":

  • As the daughter of immigrants, Esperanza greatly appreciates the sacrifices that her parents made to have a better life. 1:37
  • Esperanza's parents came from the hot ecosystem of Ecuador to the cold winter in the US. 2:30
  • Equality is something that everyone is trying to achieve in today's world, especially with all that has gone on this year. 3:22
  • There were times when Esperanza's parents were injured or sick, and no money came in the door. 3:54
  • After studying engineering in her undergrad in college, Esperanza spent quite a bit of time in a manufacturing environment. 6:58
  • Esperanza's company paid for her MBA, after which she had her choice of path, ultimately choosing marketing. 7:48
  • The Hispanic Business Unit at PepsiCo was created to tap into the previously untapped Hispanic sector. 10:36
  • Multicultural marketing has gone through a revolution that parallels the makeup of our country. 12:29
  • There is no one-size-fits-all in the melting pot that is the US, even within each culture. 13:13
  • P&G has shown to be a champion of diversity and inclusion by driving cultural relevance through its advertising. 16:03
  • Heading into the future, we need to be more culturally relevant, and the Hispanic Unit is an example of what the marketing industry should look like. 19:10
  • The chaos and uncertainty of 2020 caused PepsiCo to pause during the initial breakout of COVID. 22:10
  • Esperanza and her team made sure to study the effects of COVID on the habits of Hispanic consumers. 22:50
  • The Hispanic population has shown resilience in its journey to get to the US and this helped maintain optimism in the face of chaos. 24:37
  • To promote passionate multicultural youth's ability to vote, PepsiCo launched its Unmute Your Voice Campaign. 26:12
  • Esperanza's team is focused on leaning into the communities that need the most help as it enters 2021. 28:06




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16 Nov 2022338: Shaping the future of engineering and technology with Ana Villegas, CMO at Affinipay00:40:16

Ana Villegas knew early on that she wanted to be a CMO and achieved that goal by staying focused on gaining the skills necessary to do so. As the CMO at NI, she oversaw everything from “brand to demand” including corporate communication, ESG strategy, and ensuring NI’s values manifested in the marketplace.

In this episode, Alan and Ana talk about how her experience as a successful female business leader informs the way NI is increasing diversity in their engineering talent, what she is doing to help modernize the company's purpose and impact strategy, and how they are being intentional in shaping the future of the industry. At the time of this recording, Ana was with NI and is now the CMO at Affinipay

In this episode, you'll learn: 

  • How Ana is helping to modernize and rebrand an established company
  • The three pillars NI has established to drive its corporate impact strategy
  • Ways to directly impact the pipeline of talent and improve diversity in technology

Key Highlights 

  • [04:20] Ana’s path from being an engineering student in Peru to CMO at NI 
  • [09:35] How is the CMO role defined at NI
  • [10:55] Why does NI classify ESG under the marketing umbrella
  • [12:30] The way corporate impact manifests in the marketplace
  • [14:30] The unique position NI is in to shape the future of engineering 
  • [18:15] What NI is doing to “change the faces of engineering”
  • [23:15] The important role women play in business leadership
  • [24:50] Practical ways Ana is focusing on diversifying the workforce
  • [26:30] The importance of being mindful of leadership succession plans  
  • [30:00] The impact Ana’s grandmother had on who she is today
  • [33:15] Shifts in marketing towards being more multidimensional 
  • [35:00] Which companies are leading efforts to get more women into STEM
  • [37:45] The benefits of being agile in the way we engage customers





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15 Feb 201733: Esurance CMO believes embracing change creates great possibility00:35:18

In this podcast, Esurance CMO Alan Gellman discusses a wide range of marketing topics. But as seems to be the case for so many top marketers, tools and platforms are important, but to drive growth, it all comes down to trying to understand the people you want to reach: “We always — always — hang into that center of ‘Who are these people and how do we deliver for them?' Because as we deliver for the consumer, we deliver for our companies.”

He also says, “Let's never lose sight that, as marketers, our primary charge is to drive growth — but how? It's through insight and depth of understanding of our customers and would-be customers, and that's not just about data … ‘It's what's the humanity that the data brings forward?'”

Finally, Gellman reminds us it's important to find some joy. “If you're not laughing, if you're not having fun, then it's just not worth it.“

Highlights from this week's “Marketing Today” podcast include:

  • Storytelling still matters, regardless of the technological platform. (4:07)
  • What is my connected life? — Takeaways from CES 2017. (8:30)  
  • Embracing change to create great possibility. (11:19)  
  • Sight, sound and motion in the changing media landscape. (14:02)  
  • Who am I reaching and how? — Storytelling across creative assets and channels of reach. (18:58)  
  • Brand engagement: Interacting with customers and prospects. (20:27)  
  • Looking for the white spaces to drive future growth. (28:48)

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17 Jul 2019162: Mayur Gupta on Freshly, Spotify and harnessing chaos00:42:10

This week on “Marketing Today,” Alan interviews Mayur Gupta, the chief marketing officer at Freshly. Mayur's experiences include past roles as vice president of growth and marketing at Spotify as well as at Kimberly-Clark as the global head of marketing technology and innovation and then as the global head of the omni channel experiences and platforms.

Gupta talks about the current state and future state of marketing from his unique perspective of an engineer and having obtained a master's degree in computer science. He also shares insight on Freshly's target goal of providing food and wellness to over 100 million people, the importance of having a point-of-view in marketing, and his definition of growth that includes the growth of the brand, the user base, and the user value.

Gupta also delves into the constant changing of ideas and strategy in marketing by saying, “The goal is not to kill that chaos. The goal is not to bring calm. But, it's how you harness that chaos on the internal culture.” He states that the Freshly belief is that “nutrition is the single largest influencer of your well-being” and “the core of Freshly is the intersection of convenience, health and taste, and access/affordability.”

Highlights from this week's “Marketing Today”:

  • Mayur Gupta introduces himself and explains growing up in India. (01:10)
  • What was Mayur's path into his career? (05:25)
  • What were his transitions like between SapientNitro, Kimberly-Clark, and Freshly? (09:00)
  • What is Freshly and where can people find it? (12:39)
  • Has being a younger CMO affected Mayur's perspective on marketing? (15:49)
  • How does he stay current in all that is steadily changing in the field? (19:38)
  • How does Mayur describe the state of data, privacy, and fraud in marketing? (22:09)
  • What are the biggest technological threats to marketers? (24:38)
  • What would it look like for academia to train future marketers? (26:23)
  • What has Mayur learned from his various opportunities? (29:16)
  • Has there been an experience in Mayur's past that made him who he is today? (31:58)
  • What drives Mayur Gupta these days? (35:17)
  • Are there any companies, brands, or organizations that Mayur believes marketers should pay attention to? (37:56)
  • What does Mayur feel is the future of marketing? (39:28)

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20 Sep 201762: Kevin Lane Keller always wants to be rigorous and relevant00:39:56

This is the second installment of Alan's back-to-school podcast master class in marketing. He's been providing great insight through his conversations with some of the greatest academic minds in the discipline. Today, his conversation is with Kevin Lane Keller. Keller is the E.B. Osborn professor of marketing at the Tuck School of Business at Dartmouth College. Considered to be one of the best business school professors today, he's the author of “Strategic Brand Management,” which is referred to by many as the “branding bible,” and he is co-author of the classic textbook, “Marketing Management.”

Keller's passion for marketing comes through in many of the observations he makes during the podcast, and two aspects of that passion are empathy and curiosity. Growing up, he developed that empathy, which, for him, boils down to “being able to really understand how other people think.” And his curiosity bleeds through when he talks about marketing itself: “If you love marketing, there's always something happening that you want to think about.” 

Highlights from this week's “Marketing Today” podcast include:

  • Consumer psychology, a competitive nature, and delivering value: Keller enumerates three of the things that attracted him to the discipline of marketing. (1:34)
  • “Painting a picture in the minds of consumers about your brand.” (3:13)
  • The role of purpose in building a brand today. (9:20)
  • “Five Things I Know About Marketing” — Keller articulates his views on brands. (13:50)
  • Keller discusses the challenges of brand architecture. (26:30)
  • Keller keeps his eye on “hall of fame” brands: From P&G and AmEx to Google and Amazon to Uber and Warby Parker. (33:50)
  • “The future of marketing is still going to be an art and a science.” (35:59)




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10 Oct 2018118: John Thies, CEO & Co-founder of Email on Acid00:13:21

This is part of a 3-part series of episodes from “Marketing Today”.  Host Alan Hart interviews John Thies, the CEO of both Email on Acid and Cause for Awareness (a non-profit).  In this interview, Alan and John discuss how to design better email experiences (from the subscriber's perspective).  They discuss common beginner mistakes, modern personalization options and other design considerations.

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Highlights from this week's “Marketing Today” podcast include:

  • 1:07 – Introducing John Thies and Email on Acid
  • 3:27 – Discussing key elements of getting email “right” these days.
  • 5:50 – Discussing common mistakes.
  • 8:00 – What are other ways to personalize email?
  • 10:29 – What advice would you give your younger self?
  • 11:26 – Where do you go for information?
  • 11:58 – What's one thing you love/dispise?

3 Key Points:

  1. Email on Acid shows previews across many devices and clients so that designs can be tweaked for reliable delivery.
  2. Accessibility and designing emails that will be interpreted correctly in accessibility devices is very important for maximizing an email campaign's reach.
  3. Beginners think (mistakenly) that email marketing is easy because sending basic emails is common. But, deliverability and telling a story are big challenges.

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13 Dec 201775: Tom Fishburne: “Everything I know about marketing I’ve learned from drawing cartoons”00:38:54

In this week's episode of “Marketing Today,” Alan talks with Tom Fishburne, the founder of Marketoonist, a content marketing agency that employs cartoons to make its point, and the author of “Your Ad Ignored Here.” His work reaches several hundred thousand marketers every week, and Seth Godin calls him the David Ogilvy of cartooning.

In discussing his work, Fishburne says, “It's fun for me, as someone who comes from both marketing and cartooning, to think about how cartoons can help solve marketing challenges.”

He goes on to add, “Cartoons can ultimately bring empathy to a topic that can otherwise be very technical. Use humor as a bit of a Trojan horse — you get people laughing at certain behaviors or pain points — and it opens up a window to then deliver a deeper message.”

Highlights from this week's “Marketing Today” podcast include:

  • Fishburne's decision to move to Prague on a whim cured his aversion to risk and changed his life. (1:36)
  • Fishburne describes his creative process. (3:31)
  • Fishburne reveals the impetus behind his new book, “Your Ad Ignored Here” (6:42)
  • The Jolly Green Giant and the disappearance of the captive audience. (8:27)
  • The Shiny New Thing Syndrome — aka The Squirrel Phenomenon. (11:45)
  • Fishburne finds humor in the friction of adapting. (19:22)
  • The cartoon approach to content marketing. (23:34)
  • Executive hoodies, anyone? Fishburne discusses his admiration for Betabrand (31:54)
  • The future of marketing makes Fishburne think of “Minority Report.” (34:48)

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03 Jan 201876: Laura Paz champions the use of AI in Subway’s Latin American markets00:21:09

This week's episode of “Marketing Today” finds Alan talking with Laura Paz, regional senior marketing manager for Subway, who is responsible for their Latin American market and its more than 4,000 shops.

In the course of her discussion with Alan, Paz made it clear that the future is now in regard to the use of technology, machine learning and, in particular, AI. “I think that right now, with the technology and everything shifting, we have to test everything,” offered Paz. “I think that technology is that opportunity…that could support all of our teams to achieve better performance.”

Highlights from this week's “Marketing Today” podcast include:

  • Growing up in a family of entrepreneurs, Paz learned the value of preparation and perseverance. (1:33)
  • Paz talks about the challenge of balancing motherhood and a family with a career. (2:41)
  • Paz discusses Subway's use of AI, how it works for them, and the success it has enjoyed. (6:15)
  • Paz on the importance of overcoming skepticism regarding the use of AI. (12:13)
  • While admiring big brands like Pepsi, Proctor & Gamble, and Unilever, Paz also looks to startups that offer valuable marketing lessons. (17:11)
  • Paz believes smart data is the future. (19:16)

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06 Sep 201760: Bill Blubaugh and the brand you suck — that doesn’t suck00:15:54

As part of an ongoing series of conversations with 2017 Effie-winning marketers, Alan Hart talks with Bill Blubaugh, senior brand director of sweets and refreshments at The Hershey Company. In this podcast, they discuss the Jolly Rancher brand and its “A New Media Model to Transform a Brand that Sucks” campaign.

In his conversation with Hart, Blubaugh talked about how effective marketing is more than hitting your marks and checking off boxes, it has to connect viscerally. “You have to market to consumers in a way that motivates them,” said Blubaugh. “Because just showing up is only part of the game.” 

The campaign was personal in a lot of ways for Blubaugh, especially in the way it's impacted his career. “Looking back 18 months after the campaign, it was really kind of a career-defining moment,” said Blubaugh. “For me, now, I feel like these brave new channels, this brave new media model is really not that difficult and not that different, it just requires a different set of skills.”

Highlights from this week's “Marketing Today” podcast include:

  • Jolly Rancher, the brand you suck. (1:06)
  • A decision to go where the consumer is. (1:57)
  • Personalized response: One-on-ones with the Fruit Gang. (4:25)
  • Driving the brand in real time. (7:02)
  • “Marketing effectiveness, to me, is just really about motivating people.” (8:14)
  • Blubaugh keeps his eye on brands that have stood the test of time. (11:20)
  • Turning brands over to consumers. (13:55)

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29 Aug 2018110: Peter Horst discusses Marketing in the #FakeNews Era00:37:39

This week's podcast marks an encore presentation, of sorts. Alan talks with Peter Horst, who previously appeared in Episode 25 of “Marketing Today.” In this conversation with Alan, Horst discusses his new book, “Marketing in the #FakeNews Era: New Rules for a New Reality of Tribalism, Activism, and Loss of Trust.” Horst is the former CMO at The Hershey Company, and he has also served in marketing leadership roles at Capital One, General Mills, and TD Ameritrade, among others. Presently, he finds himself writing — in addition to his book, he's a Forbes contributor — as well as consulting, doing board advisory work, and engaging in public speaking.

In his conversation with Alan, Horst addresses the difficulties marketers face in the present-day climate of fractiousness and polarization. “This atmosphere is really the result of a perfect storm of a bunch of forces that are creating a really challenging environment for brands,” says Horst. “The country is deeply polarized across any number of spectrums, whether it's political, socioeconomic, urban/rural, conservative/liberal — the middle has just fallen away. And along with that, there's been this loss of trust.”

Highlights from this week's “Marketing Today” podcast include:

  • Horst talks about the ”2.0 version” of his career. (1:31)
  • Horst explains the impetus behind the writing of his new book. (2:18)
  • Walking the walk: Horst on what brands should do before taking a stand. (7:10)
  • From purpose to position: How brands should weigh risk versus relevance. (12:25)
  • What the C-Suite should consider when it comes to taking a stand on issues. (18:41)
  • Dealing with the “new normal.” (27:12)
  • Two areas of concern for Horst: (1) The denigration of collaboration and compromise, and (2) The difficulty in identifying “the truth.” (29:04)
  • A “liberal arts” perspective: Brands need to understand the world outside their category. (31:26)

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17 Aug 2022325: Building the Marketing Roadway for the Next Generation of Campers with Kampgrounds of America’s Whitney Scott00:41:35

From gems to government to camping, Whitney Scott has lived the idea that “once you learn marketing, you can adapt to almost any job in any industry.” As CMO of Kampgrounds of America (KOA) and COO of the newly opened Terramor Outdoor Resort in Maine, Whitney’s marketing strategies bolster the common mission of connecting people to the outdoors and to each other.

In this episode, Alan and Whitney discuss how she’s using marketing to connect with the new demographic interested in camping, and how data is the key to backing up your marketing tactics. Whitney also introduces KOA’s newest brand, the Terramor Outdoor Resort, now open in Bar Harbor, ME.

In this episode, you'll learn:

  • How to keep a 60-year-old brand relevant
  • How KOA is upgrading the camping experience for a new demographic
  • Understanding how to scale your digital presence

Key Highlights

[01:37] Whitney’s secret talent

[02:55] Whitney’s path to Kampgrounds of America (KOA)

[05:08] Introducing the new Terramor Outdoor Resort

[09:00] KOA’s history and where it is today

[13:22] Maintaining a 60-year-old brand and keeping it current

[15:28] How target customer data has changed over the years

[19:38] Keeping up with the changing needs of KOA’s customers

[21:45] How technology has played a role

[25:19] Big learnings as CMO of KOA and COO of Terramor Outdoor Resort

[27:49] An experience that defines Whitney

[29:36] Whitney’s advice for her younger self

[31:23] What marketers should be learning more about

[35:44] Brands and causes that we should be taking notice of

[38:56] The biggest opportunity or threat for marketers today

 

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30 Jun 2021266: Standing Out in the Crowd with Torchy’s Tacos Scott Hudler00:36:44

Scott Hudler is the CMO of Torchy's Tacos, an experiential craft-casual restaurant. In this episode, Alan and Scott explain what that means. 

Torchy's was founded a decade ago in Austin, Texas. The concept was an elevated street taco. Today they have over 83 locations in seven states and plan to add a hundred company-owned restaurants in the next five years. 

Learn how being individually owned instead of a franchise helped them grow and how they lean heavily on experience and grass roots marketing.

In this episode, you'll learn:

  • The intersection between fun and business
  • Great customer experience shines through the abundance of choices
  • Meeting customers where they want to interact with you


Key Highlights:

  • [01:45] Scott's favorite city
  • [03:22] The brands Scott has worked for
  • [06:01] What made Torchy's the next “right” move
  • [07:16] Torchy's backstory
  • [12:06] Executing a winning formula
  • [14:00] Not a franchise but individually owned
  • [17:07] Making the leaps to grow
  • [18:35] How the food industry will change post-pandemic
  • [20:15] Overcoming the abundance of choices
  • [21:41] Experiential marketing at Torchy's
  • [26:22] A defining experience that made Scott who he is today 
  • [30:30] Scott's advice to his younger self
  • [31:20] Scott's impactful purchase
  • [32:38] The brands and companies Scott follows
  • [34:35] What Scott says is today's biggest threat and opportunity for marketers

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03 Jul 2019160: KoAnn Skrzyniarz, “Be Bold, Not Perfect”00:35:14

This week on the “Marketing Today” podcast, Alan talks with KoAnn Skrzyniarz, founder and CEO of Sustainable Brands Worldwide. Skrzyniarz has worked as the founder and president of Organizations That Work, and in the roles of senior vice president, vice president, and group director at Miller Freeman Inc.

Skrzyniarz discusses Sustainable Brands Worldwide's publishing platform's impressive growth, the goals and aims for Sustainable Brands, all the offerings they provide including education, research, content, and events, and the opportunities and threats to current marketers. Also, get a deeper understanding of Sustainable Brands' peer-to-peer corporate member learning group that is made up of about 80 global companies at the commit stage to finding sustainable solutions. The organization's corporate members include National Geographic, Procter & Gamble, Pepsico, Target, CVS Health, 3M, BASF, Cisco, UPS, Dow, and ALDO among others.

Skrzyniarz shares a few of the stats released to Sustainable Brands' efforts: “Today we have about 2 million readers every year that are reading our digital publishing material,” Skrzyniarz says. we have about 35% of our audience that is coming out of brand strategy, marketing, and communications.” Skrzyniarz goes on to explain, “We decided early on that we would have the most leverage if we really targeted trying to drive system shift primarily in consumer-branded companies.”

Tune in next week for Marc Pritchard, chief brand officer, and Virginie Helias, chief sustainability officer at Procter & Gamble. Pritchard and Helias discuss new announcements at Sustainable Brands Summit and new initiatives the company is undertaking around sustainability. 

Highlights from this week's “Marketing Today”:

  • KoAnn Skrzyniarz discusses herself and how she got her start in her (01:13)
  • What was KoAnn's mission with Sustainable Brands? (04:50)
  • What is the “theory of change” model that Sustainable Brands has? (06:23)
  • What has been the impact of their publishing platform and conferences? (08:19)
  • How has their membership evolved? (10:29)
  • What are the goals of their events and who are intending? (14:18)
  • What does she feel are the great opportunities for brands in sustainability? (16:02)
  • What has KoAnn learned about revenue growth and talent decline? (17:17)
  • How has the feedback loop been broken by brands? (19:24)
  • Are there any companies, brands, or organizations that KoAnn believes marketers should pay attention to? (21:18)
  • What advice would KoAnn give to new CMOs? (24:39)
  • Has there been an experience in KoAnn's past that made her who she is today? (28:52)
  • What advice would she give to her younger self? (30:44)
  • What drives KoAnn these days? (31:55)


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21 Jun 201748: It’s all about the climb: Marketing VP Craig Rowley takes REI higher00:31:51

When Craig Rowley moved over to REI after 25 years on the agency side at creative shops like Carmichael Lynch, Borders Perrin Norrander, and Saatchi & Saatchi, he was already pretty familiar with them — he credits classes he took at REI with helping him summit Mount Rainier.

For him, REI is the perfect fit: a purpose-driven brand that isn't all about the transaction. “Any company that taps into what people are passionate about in a brand: Is there a higher purpose that they stand for? Are they good corporate citizens? Do they treat their employees well? All these things matter,” says Rowley. He goes on to add: “There's a tension in that. You're kind of forcing people to make a choice or take a side. And when you do that sort of thing, I think it gets you noticed and kind of burns you into people's souls.”

Highlights from this week's “Marketing Today” podcast include:

  • Rowley talks about creating an agency vibe within a client culture. (3:24)
  • Building brands today: “It's not just about selling stuff.” (5:28)
  • Purpose-built branding: “It's not for the faint of heart.” (8:09)
  • Rowley's take on the experience economy: “People are moving away from buying stuff to buying experiences.” (18:51)
  • “Any brand can have a purpose that is meaningful and matters.” (24:39)
  • How brands win: Sharing values to create customer loyalty. (28:25)

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31 Jan 201880: David Baldwin is “a creative guy with options”00:33:02

This week on “Marketing Today,” Alan talks with David Baldwin, CEO of Baldwin&, an advertising, design and strategy company in Raleigh, North Carolina. Baldwin is also the CMO of Ponysaurus Brewing Company, a film producer and, most recently, an author. His book, “The Belief Economy — How to Give a Damn, Stop Selling, and Create Buy-in,” takes a look at the seismic shift occurring in the marketing landscape and how brands can reach the next generation of influencers.

During the course of the podcast, he offers his take on Millennials and iGen, who he sees as the key players in The Belief Economy, “We better figure out what they're about, we better figure out how they're wired, and we better figure out how to change the way we talk to them.” He goes on to add, “If you are being true to who you are, and you're smart about getting aligned with the people out there who love that, I think you can win.”

As to why this book and why now, he says, “I'm a capitalist, man. The point of this book is to help people sell more stuff…It's not about not selling stuff, and it's not about not making money. It's about doing all of that but also having a positive effect while you're doing it.”

He drives home his point with a question: “If you have an opportunity to make the world work a little bit better, have a positive effect around the people that use your products — why wouldn't you do that?” 

Highlights from this week's “Marketing Today” podcast include:

  • Baldwin is many things: an author, a film producer, a brewery founder and an ad guy — but don't call him a do-gooder. (1:24)
  • Baldwin's mother was a media director and he grew up around advertising: “I feel like I've been in advertising since I was 12.” (5:19)
  • Baldwin discusses the impetus and thinking behind his book, “The Belief Economy.” (6:55)
  • Three things brands need to thrive in The Belief Economy. (12:55)
  • According to Baldwin, the popular take on Millennials is wrong — they're not looking for a "participation trophy.” (16:11)
  • “The reason social media was created was to connect human beings.” (20:25)
  • Baldwin makes his case on the need for civility, particularly in America. (26:58)

 

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11 Jan 201728: Martech and "the spirit of the pioneer" with Hancock Whitney Bank CMO Dan Marks00:27:29

Dan Marks is the CMO for Hancock Whitney Bank, a regional player in the Gulf South area with a footprint spanning from Houston, Texas, to Tampa, Florida. In November of 2016, he was honored by the CMO Club with their peer-nominated President's Circle Award.

Dan is always looking to the future and believes in the strength of the marketing stack, which he describes as “the next-generation way to talk about all the technically or digitally enabled technologies that are important to operating today and will become even more important to operating in the future.”

Dan also believes in an agile approach marked by collaboration among segments of the company that aren't part of the marketing team: “For marketing to be successful, we can't operate in a vacuum.”

Highlights from this week's “Marketing Today” podcast include:

  • Dan's philosophy regarding teambuilding efforts: Finding the right fit in culture and in values. (5:02)
  • Two elements that help manage balance in a company: 1) Building relationships. 2) Good ideas come from everywhere. (7:24)
  • Digital innovation and transformation: Getting better at what's relevant to the customer. (11:10)
  • Discovering new marketing talent: An innate sense of curiosity and the “spirit of the pioneer.” (18:45)
  • Fuel for success: Mutual respect, faith and the pursuit of excellence. (20:57)
  • Mission-based focus versus short-term success: Finding inspiration in other brands and companies. (22:46)

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23 Jan 2019133: Cal Fussman on the art and power of asking great questions01:22:30

This week's “Marketing Today,” is an untraditional episode, but it's packed with insight, humor, compassion, and, yes, a marketing lesson or two. Alan sat down to talk with Cal Fussman, journalist, best-selling author, and writer at large for Esquire — where he has served as lead interviewer for the magazine's notable “What I've Learned” series. During the course of his career, he has interviewed and written about famous people from Jimmy Carter, Mikhail Gorbachev, and Ted Kennedy to Jack Welch, Al Pacino, and Muhammad Ali, as well as countless others. His personal essay, “Cocktails Before the Collapse,” written about his time as a sommelier at Windows on the World, the restaurant that sat perched atop the World Trade Center, won a James Beard Foundation Award in 2012.

During the course of their conversation, Fussman touches on many of the powerful experiences and pivotal moments that shaped his life and career. But, perhaps most notably, it was his decision as a second-grader to pick up a pencil, write a letter, lick a stamp, and toss an envelope in a mailbox during one of the darkest times in American history that revealed to him the power of a great question: “I knew, at that time, that a good question could get you to the most powerful person on Earth, and it has guided my life ever since.”

Highlights from this week's “Marketing Today” podcast include:

  • A letter sent to a U.S. president in a time of national tragedy set the course for Fussman's career. (1:37)
  • Raise your hand: Fussman discusses how our childhood curiosity becomes tempered. (3:53)
  • “I'm prepared to improvise.” — Fussman stores questions in his head like a jukebox; he just has to press play. (17:42)
  • “There‘s a great marketing story.” Fussman talks about the time Jack Welch took him to lunch. (30:59)
  • Breaking down the wall between journalism and marketing. (45:10)
  • “Everything that I felt no good at, I've had to somehow master.” (52:24)
  • “I've got a baby in the palm of my hand.” — Fussman describes his experience speaking at a hospital. (55:34)
  • Fussman is still particular about the way he markets himself. (1:02:17)
  • Eureka! Alan and Cal discover “Fussman's gold.” (1:07:56)

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16 Dec 2020238: Beyond Beer at Anheuser-Busch with Lana Buchanan00:32:21

On this 238th episode of "Marketing Today," host Alan Hart speaks with Lana Buchanan, vice president of marketing for Beyond Beer at Anheuser-Busch. Buchanan oversees the marketing for everything that does not fall in the category of beer and, as such, has a massive portfolio full of product categories that require different marketing approaches!

We start our conversation with Buchanan's background in the alcohol industry and the horror story that forced her to become an expert cocktail creator. Then Buchanan discusses what it's like working with such an extensive portfolio of products and why she loves it. "With every different category, I get to think differently in terms of the consumer," Buchanan says.

At Beyond Beer, all the separate teams have the same goal, "create an innovation that really fits the needs and the wants of the consumer in the different moments." Buchanan then breaks down different marketing techniques that help them connect with consumers on an emotional level, because at the end of the day, "the most powerful brands are the ones that make you feel something."

We then discuss how Buchanan's time working on Bon Viv and her experience from traveling Europe after college helped her learn how to pivot with the changes in front of her. Lastly, Buchanan dives into the BLM movement and the importance of changing your marketing strategies with the world's continually shifting landscape. "If you don't evolve with the consumer, you're going to get left behind!"

Highlights from this week's "Marketing Today":

  • Lana bought a puppy during the pandemic. 1:33
  • Lana currently handles everything that is not in the category of beer at Anheuser-Busch. 4:30
  • With so many categories, Lana chooses to take a consumer-first approach when handling her extensive portfolio. 5:33
  • Between categories, there are similar marketing frameworks that are used, each having its subtle differences. 6:49
  • Innovation goes beyond just the business opportunities in growing categories, and Lana must find out what factors are driving that growth. 8:28
  • Through small-market tests, each team does their best to see if they can connect to the consumer. 10:38
  • Small tests are still brewed in the full tanks but are strictly tested in very small regions for months at a time. 11:34
  • When it comes to marketing alcohol, connecting with the consumer at an emotional level is an incredibly important goal. 14:00
  • Knowing your target and what they want is one of the most powerful things a marketer can have. 15:42
  • Social Club is one of the projects that Lana is most proud of because it challenged the standards that have been created in its category. 17:14
  • The business dynamics have already changed 4 or 5 times this year alone because of the pandemic. 19:35
  • During her time at Bon Viv, Lana learned how to pivot a marketing plan to connect with what's important at present. 20:20
  • With a safety-first mindset, traditional sampling has been adjusted so that consumers can have the experience. 22:41
  • Don't be afraid to pivot when something doesn't feel right. 23:52
  • After graduation, Lana decided to pass up on multiple job prospects to travel around Europe and get closer to her Russian background. 24:57
  • Lana looks back and wishes she had stopped to celebrate the wins more. 26:34
  • Lana recognizes the importance of the BLM movement and works to implement change in her team. 29:37
  • Too many marketers and agencies are afraid to recognize the change in the world and refuse to evolve. 30:48


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31 Mar 2021253: The Gateways to Going Global with Your Brand with Alibaba's Erica Chan00:35:08

In this 253rd episode of Marketing Today, Alan Harts talks with Erica Chan, who leads brand customer experience and insights at Alibaba Group, one of the world's largest B2B e-commerce marketplaces. 

On the show, they discuss the almost $24 trillion global B2B e-commerce market and how Alibaba is both globalizing and localizing their brand around the world. 

Alan and Erica break down the behemoth of an organization that is Alibaba and their transformation to going global as a brand. Erica says they realized they needed to transform the platform to make it truly “helpful and relevant” to today's businesses. The way the world does business is changing rapidly, and Erica sees digitalization and e-commerce platforms as a “gateway” to making this transition.

Learn more about this, the future of B2B e-commerce, and virtual trade shows in Alan and Erica's discussion on this episode of Marketing Today.

In this episode, you'll learn:

  • How to go global while also going local with your brand
  • Why going digital and access to e-commerce is now essential for B2B 
  • Why e-commerce is a gateway to going global

Key Highlights:

  • [02:20] Erica's role at Alibaba
  • [04:48] Alibaba's organizational structure
  • [07:15] Alibaba's transformation
  • [09:37] How Erica thinks about globalizing Alibaba's brand 
  • [12:40] The different ways companies can leverage Alibaba
  • [16:48] How the pandemic sped up going digital 
  • [21:10] Alibaba's virtual trade shows
  • [24:04] What marketers should think about in 2021
  • [27:17] An experience that defines Erica, made her who she is today 
  • [28:46] Erica's advice for her younger self
  • [29:38] A recent impactful purchase Erica made
  • [31:24] The brands, companies, and causes Erica follows
  • [33:15] What Erica says is the biggest threat and opportunity for marketers today

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23 May 201896: Jay Livingston’s career has gone to the dogs, and he is loving every minute of it00:28:03

In this week's episode of “Marketing Today,” Alan talks with Jay Livingston, chief marketing officer at BARK, the company that created the immensely popular BarkBox, which led to its other endeavors: BarkShop and BarkRetail. 

Livingston joined BARK after a 20-year career at Bank of America, where he held senior leadership roles in every functional area of global marketing and strategy, from digital commerce, consumer/retail, and small business to commercial banking and brand management.

After a two-year “hiatus,” which found him immersed in angel investing as well as traveling and restoring automobiles, he is now the CMO at BARK, the wildly successful company that caters to dogs and their owners. BARK is everything Livingston was looking for as he reentered the realm of marketing: A company that was consumer-facing; produced a physical product; not only that, the product had to bring people joy; and, last but not least, the company had to be headquartered in New York. As Livingston relates in the course of his discussion with Alan, BARK has been all of that and more.

Highlights from this week's “Marketing Today” podcast include: 

  • From banking to barking: Livingston talks about his 20-year career at Bank of America, angel investing, and finding the right fit at BARK. (1:28)
  • Livingston: “We're really all about making dogs happy. So whatever we can come up with that does that we will launch quickly and give it a shot.” (3:32)
  • BARK's growth plan and the challenges of expansion. (6:04)
  • The difficulties of retail for a digital-first company. (7:49)
  • Livingston on not chasing growth: “You've got to stay true to who you are.” (11:36)
  • BARK and the magic of customer engagement. (14:31)
  • Livingston relates some of the best advice he ever received about investing in growth companies. (17:54)
  • Two things that fuel Livingston: (1) Being in NYC, surrounded by people at the top of their games. (2) The idea of creating something and seeing it grow.

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21 Aug 2019167: CMO at Hootsuite, Penny Wilson, on Social & Privacy00:32:07

During this episode of “Marketing Today,” Alan interviews Penny Wilson, the chief marketing officer at Hootsuite, the social media software company that enables users to integrate digital profiles and share scheduled content, run online campaigns, and manage analytics. With a degree in computer science, Wilson offers a unique perspective on social media and marketing that is steered by data.

Wilson talks about Hootsuite's growth, going from 10 million users to 18 million users. She also offers her understanding of the importance of being customer-first and helping them add value and mature in their social media usage. Learn why she believes employees are the most important source of information about a company, reasons why marketing will become not just more personalized but also more permission-driven, and what it takes to increase trust in social media.

Wilson defines the type of marketer she is by stating, “I am very data-driven as a marketer. So, I look for tying whatever I do to the results I can drive.” She highlights her marketing approach by sharing, “I use an acronym called ‘ACE,'...A.C.E. The ‘A' stands for ‘advocacy.' The ‘C' stands for putting ‘customers' at the center of everything you do, and then the ‘E' stands for building an ‘ecosystem' so you can really use the information effectively.” If you need a reason why customer service is key to your company, take Penny's word for it, “customers have very practical reasons for giving us their attention on social. They have a moment of need. Customer service is typically ranked as the number reason that they want to talk with a company.”

Highlights from this week's “Marketing Today”:

  • Penny Wilson introduces herself and explains her career path. (01:32)
  • How does her degree in computer science impact her marketing work? (04:03)
  • What was Penny's transition into marketing? (04:37)
  • While at Hootsuite, what has Penny been focused on? (08:11)
  • Penny shares her perspective on the need for companies to use social media. (09:15)
  • What is driving Hootsuite's growth? (15:09)
  • What advice does Penny have for marketers as it pertains to privacy? (16:52)
  • What does Penny Wilson see as the biggest trends for social media? (18:30)
  • Are there any experiences in Penny's past that have helped define who she is today? (21:59)
  • What advice would Penny give to her younger self? (25:10)
  • What currently fuels Penny to keep going today? (26:13)
  • Are there any companies, brands, or organizations that Penny Wilson believes marketers should pay attention to? (27:18)
  • What does Penny Wilson feel is the future of marketing? (29:40) 

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03 May 201744: Jeff Meisel of the U.S. Census Bureau knows what counts00:29:16

It makes all the sense in the world that U.S. Census Bureau CMO Jeff Meisel hails from the American heartland, part of a rural community of ranchers and farmers who count on being counted. More than that, Meisel exhibits a genuine affinity for and attachment to not only our country but data science, too. Which makes him a natural for his role as marketer-in-chief for the Census Bureau.

Meisel started his career in the private sector before heading to the government side as a White House Presidential Innovation Fellow at the U.S. Census Bureau. That led to a short stint at the U.S. Department of Commerce before he found his way back to the Census Bureau and his current role of CMO. 

In this podcast, Meisel ranges far and wide, discussing the modern age of the Census Bureau — which will use online gathering of data as a primary channel for the first time in 2020 — while also delivering a mini history lesson on Herman Hollerith's development of early machines that presaged the computer industry and helped modernize the way the census was tabulated in 1890.

All that said, for Meisel, on an elemental level, his role is all about making things more accessible and “helping people who need the data get to it quicker.”

Highlights from this week's “Marketing Today” podcast include:

  • Meisel is on a mission to deliver better services for our government. (3:27) 
  • The Census Bureau and its strong culture of innovation. (7:20)
  • Making data easier to use in today's “app economy.” (8:55)
  • From data scientists to rock-and-rollers: How people are using census data today. (10:17) 
  • The U.S. Census Bureau: Increasing data accessibility in the face of daunting scale. (16:06)
  • Meisel discusses the census from a customer acquisition perspective. (19:04)
  • Meisel speaks up for the USA brand — and smaller brands, too. (25:14)

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