Malevolent Mormon Mommys | The Case Against Ruby Franke & Jodi Hildebrandt (True Crime Today)

It's a question that has left millions of fans bewildered: How does a prominent YouTube influencer, adored by millions, become a subject of a shocking child abuse investigation?

Ruby Frankie, the face behind the popular YouTube channel "8 Passengers," along with her business partner Jody Hildebrandt, have been thrust into the spotlight, and not for their usual content. Their arrest followed a harrowing 911 call by a neighbor after discovering an emaciated 12-year-old boy, his wrists and ankles bound with duct tape, knocking at their door. This dark turn of events, which Tony Brueski of the "Hidden Killers" podcast termed a "chilling revelation," has shaken the social media community to its core.

“You know, that was a question I had too, because, as you said, there are so many eyes on this family and they're broadcasting their parenting," Eric Faddis, a former Felony Prosecutor, weighed in on the recent episode of "Hidden Killers."

Indeed, their platform was a window into their lives, or at least what they chose to display. But as Tony posited, how did the world go from watching trivial incidents on her YouTube channel, such as Ruby's refusal to bring lunch to her child at school, to hearing about allegations of child abuse, malnutrition, and possible starvation?

A few sharp-eyed viewers had already raised concerns about the "8 Passengers" content, deeming some parental choices as potentially harmful. This led to a Change.org petition urging child protective services (CPS) to investigate. The service did step in, but found no grounds to act at the time.

Adding more complexity to the narrative, Faddis mentioned the defense called "reasonable parental discipline," which can be employed in child abuse cases. The defense allows parents to justify their actions as their parenting style if they believe it was "reasonable." The line between strict parenting and abuse can sometimes blur, but the events surrounding the Frankies indicate a much more severe scenario.

There's also the haunting revelation that one of Ruby's older children, currently in college, had previously alerted CPS about the conditions at home. "Why was this not investigated further when you literally have a child going, 'Hey, my mom's crazy. She's abusing us,'" Brueski lamented. This revelation puts CPS under scrutiny. Critics argue that the organization sometimes fails to act even when confronted with glaring red flags, while others believe it often oversteps its boundaries.

Faddis offered a potential solution to the challenges plaguing CPS. "I would strongly push for is evidence-based standards," he shared. Rather than leaving decisions solely to the subjective judgment of caseworkers, introducing concrete, evidence-backed standards on parenting, nutrition, and discipline might lead to more accurate evaluations.

It's undeniable that the case of Ruby Frankie and Jody Hildebrandt serves as a stark reminder of the perils that may lurk behind the curated images of social media stardom. While fans grapple with the shocking revelations, it's essential to remember the broader picture. As Brueski and Faddis highlighted, there's an urgent need for reform and introspection in child protection systems.

As investigations continue and the full story unfolds, one question remains: How many other cases have gone unnoticed, hidden behind the veil of online fame?

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When does 'parenting' cross the line into abuse?

Tony Brueski, host of the acclaimed podcast "Hidden Killers," delved deep into the twisted narrative of Ruby Frank, a renowned YouTube personality and alleged child abuser. Joined by former FBI Special Agent and Hidden Killers Daily Contributor, Jennifer Coffindaffer, the conversation explored the intersection of social media validation and potential child maltreatment.

Ruby Frank, once held in esteem for her tough-love parenting style on her mommy blog, has recently come under scrutiny for extreme disciplinary actions. "Somewhat reminiscent of Lori Dayville," Brueski commented, hinting at the underlying radical beliefs that might be influencing Frank's controversial parenting methods.

Discussing the potential influence of her blogging career on her parenting style, Coffindaffer opined, "She has over two million people that are supporting her and supporting what she's talking about. So I think it certainly gave her the sense of empowerment and the sense that she wasn't doing anything wrong." The concerning aspect here isn't just the actions of one individual but the validation by millions.

The focus then shifted to an alarming point - the systemic failures of child protective services. "Is the Ruby Frank and Jodi Hildebrandt story another lesson in how broken our system is for child protective services?" Brueski asked. Coffindaffer's response was both empathetic towards the workers in the system and critical of the structure itself. "The system is so broken... the parental rights seem to just overshadow everything that is right," she lamented.

The podcast went on to discuss the role of Frank's husband in the alleged abuse, shedding light on the need for a comprehensive inquiry into the children's experiences. The notion that such potential abuse could remain hidden from another parent living in the same house was deemed unlikely by Coffindaffer. "I just think it's gonna take a real deep historical look," she asserted, emphasizing the importance of thoroughly interviewing the kids and gathering any available evidence.

Brueski and Coffindaffer's conversation paints a bleak picture, intertwining the allure of internet fame with potential abuses behind closed doors. While the discourse highlights a single case, it brings forward a larger societal issue of discerning the boundary between disciplinary actions and outright abuse.

This tale is a stark reminder that online personalities and influencers, despite the façade they might present, are human. Their actions, for better or worse, remain hidden behind the pixels, only surfacing when the screen darkens and real life takes over.

As we ponder the implications of this discussion, one must ask: In the age of online validation, who truly watches out for the vulnerable?

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When does "tough love" cross the line into abuse? This was the center of a recent conversation on the podcast "Hidden Killers" between host Tony Brueski and former FBI Special Agent Jennifer Coffindaffer. They discussed the controversial actions and revelations surrounding YouTube personality, Ruby Frank.

Ruby Frank, once recognized as a "tough love mom", had a significant presence on YouTube with almost two and a half million subscribers on her channel "Eight Passengers". She presented herself as a strict parent, but events took a turn when a child allegedly related to her showed up at a neighbor's doorstep with ankles bound by duct tape and appearing emaciated.

Brueski expressed, "Prior to that...Did it shock me all that much quite honestly of oh, they forgot their lunch. We're just not gonna bring. It'll be a lesson. They'll learn, and they'll remember next time." This statement underlines the controversial nature of "tough love", where some methods, seen as teaching life lessons, are now being critically examined.

As they delved deeper into the topic, Coffindaffer stated, "I truly believe that she was a wolf in sheep's clothing from the beginning." She hinted that what many fans perceived as merely a tough parenting style was, in actuality, a mask for abusive and neglectful behavior.

Such allegations, especially against someone with a significant online presence, are shocking. The constant surveillance that such internet celebrities are under makes it puzzling how such activities could go unnoticed. But as Brueski puts it, "There was much more going on behind the curtains."

Coffindaffer voiced her concerns about the nature of this alleged abuse: "This is somebody who's sadistic toward her own children. And that takes a real special horrible-natured sadist to do that." These statements highlight the severe nature of the allegations, suggesting that the actions weren't mere disciplinary measures but possibly rooted in deeper psychological issues.

Furthering the narrative, Brueski discussed the blame Ruby Frank attempted to shift onto her children. He mentioned Frank's vague claims of one of her children being abusive towards the others, without providing further details. The insinuation here, although yet to be confirmed, brings to the forefront the potential cycle of abuse. As children raised in an abusive environment, they might develop destructive behaviors.

However, what struck most was Coffindaffer's revelation about an alleged accusation made by Frank. She accused her three-year-old of watching pornography. This shocking revelation raises more questions about the environment within the household. Where did the child gain access to such content? Was this claim a deflection or an exposure of a deeper, more sinister situation?

Coffindaffer then drew a comparison, citing her previous involvement in interviewing individuals in Utah from a small society accused of incest. "I've never seen so many cleft palates...I've never interviewed so many people that literally were cousins," she remarked, hinting at the culturally embedded issues that still plague certain communities. This observation raises the question of whether such cultural considerations may have influenced the events within the Frank household.

The revelations from this podcast episode provide a dark glimpse into the life of a once-popular YouTube personality. It's a grim reminder that what we see online is often a curated version of reality, and sometimes, hidden behind the scenes, are truths far more disturbing than we can imagine.

So, as our screens continue to showcase myriad personalities and parenting styles, one must ponder - how do we differentiate between genuine 'tough love' and something more insidious?

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Does the perfect facade crafted for millions on social media hide chilling secrets behind closed doors?

In a recent episode of "Hidden Killers," Tony Brueski had an enlightening conversation with psychotherapist and author Shavaun Scott about the perplexing case of Ruby Frank and Jodie Hildebrandt, two women whose questionable behaviors recently made headlines. The revelations from this story were not just deeply unsettling, but they also shine a spotlight on a concerning trend in the Mormon faith.

Ruby Frank, known for her "curated blonde, attractive appearance" and vast reach on YouTube, gathered over two and a half million subscribers who were torn between admiration and distaste for her parenting approach. On the surface, Frank’s parenting seemed rooted in old-school methods, such as not delivering a forgotten lunch to ensure a lesson is learned. However, as Brueski pointed out, there's a "world of difference developmentally between a six-year-old and a 12-year-old," and perhaps, Frank’s judgments were misplaced or even detrimental.

While many saw her as pious and strict, others were horrified by her on-screen demeanor towards her children. Beyond the camera, darker details began to emerge, hinting at a deeply troubling double life. But it poses a compelling question: "Is this more common than we think of individuals very heavy on social media?" as Brueski inquired. The way Frank presented herself was like a facade, expertly crafted for her online audience, all while hiding disturbing behaviors.

The mystery deepens with Jodie Hildebrandt, described as a mix between a therapist and a cult leader, who shared a dubious business venture with Frank. Their "counseling agency" oddly focused on topics such as preventing masturbation and the dangers of sexuality. Comparing them to the notorious Chad and Lori Daybell, Scott remarked, "when you put nutty people together, it just sort of amplifies and intensifies."

One can't ignore the apparent pattern of alarming incidents emerging from the Mormon or Latter-day Saint (LDS) faith. While both hosts emphasized that their intent wasn't to cast a shadow over the entire religion, there seems to be a growing list of individuals within the faith showcasing detrimental behavior. If such attitudes are increasingly emanating from the community, is it then, as Brueski suggests, "something to be looked at"?

Ruby Frank's daughter's testimony adds another layer to this chilling tale. After Frank's arrest, her 20-year-old daughter took to social media with a single word: "finally." She revealed her unsuccessful attempts to report her mother's actions for years. This points to a wider systemic issue. Scott hinted at a potential failure of Child Protection Services (CPS) due to lack of funding or staff, a plight that's unfortunately familiar in many jurisdictions.

As the discussion veered towards Frank’s husband, a college professor, opinions diverged. While he claimed ignorance regarding the abusive behaviors, Scott found it hard to label him a victim. Was he passive, turning a blind eye to Frank's actions, or complicit in them? If the latter, where does one draw the line between moral and legal responsibility?

The story of Ruby Frank and Jodie Hildebrandt is a distressing reminder of the facades people can build, especially in the age of social media, and the hidden dangers lurking beneath seemingly perfect exteriors. As Brueski and Scott delved deep into this harrowing tale, listeners are left contemplating the complexities of human behavior, societal pressures, and the power dynamics within family units.

In a world where our online selves often differ from reality, how many more secrets remain hidden behind the screens?

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"How did two individuals seemingly manage to pull the wool over so many eyes, manipulating systems and minds to their advantage?"

In a recent episode of the podcast "Hidden Killers," host Tony Brueski delves into the unsettling tales of Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrant. With Lori Hellis, an author and criminal defense lawyer, they shed light on the complexities surrounding these figures, who, under the veneer of respectability, allegedly perpetuated a web of deceit.

For the uninitiated, on the surface, Franke, as Brueski observes, appeared to be nothing more than "a strict parent." However, scratch beneath the surface and a much more sinister portrait emerges. "She really tried to massage this image and portray herself in one way where what we're learning, if true, [is] quite a monster on the other side," Brueski remarked. This observation becomes even more chilling as we learn that even Franke's own sisters were reportedly unaware of her activities.

What is particularly alarming in these narratives is the seeming pattern of isolation. Hildebrant, much like Franke, seems to have a propensity for pushing away those who raise concerns. Hellis draws a parallel with the Lori Vallow case, stating, "We saw it in the Lori Vallow case. I mean, she cut off her entire family on the Cox side of the family. She cut them all off because they questioned what she was doing." This behavioral trait – the isolation from family and friends – appears to be a recurring theme among individuals exhibiting narcissistic tendencies.

As the conversation progressed, the connection to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS) emerged. Both Franke and Hildebrant had affiliations with the church, and what Hellis reveals next is indeed troubling.

"Here's what I find very troubling about the Hildebrand and Frankie case," Hellis began. Jodi Hildebrand, notably a therapist with an MSW in social work, was reportedly on numerous church referral lists. This means that she was actively receiving clients from the church, with church leaders referring members to her for therapeutic sessions. The implications of such a dynamic become deeply problematic when the depth of Hildebrant's alleged actions is considered.

In a revealing interview, Jodi Hildebrand's niece, Jessie, unveiled that she was subjected to Hildebrant's so-called therapeutic techniques. More alarming is that Jessie was tasked with handling the billing for Hildebrant's "therapy practice." What left Jessie deeply disturbed was the revelation that "about 80 percent of the billing was being paid for by the LDS church."

The LDS Church, known for its compassionate endeavors, would fund counseling sessions for members in need. In this twisted tale, not only was the church unintentionally endorsing someone potentially causing harm, but it was also financially supporting it. As Brueski poignantly notes, while there's nothing inherently wrong with church-funded counseling, the misuse and abuse of such a system are "sickening."

The Franke-Hildebrant narrative forces us to question the systems in place, their vulnerabilities, and the lengths to which individuals might go to exploit them. The intertwining of personal ambition, alleged malpractice, and institutional trust provides a cautionary tale about vigilance, accountability, and the ever-present danger of deception lurking beneath seemingly benign exteriors.

"In a world where appearances can be manipulated, how do we ensure that those entrusted with power and influence remain true to their responsibilities?"

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In a riveting episode of "Hidden Killers," host Tony Brueski delves deep into the murky waters of child protective services, exploring the intersection between a broken system and the masterful deceit of individuals like Ruby, a narcissist who manages to fool the system at every turn. Brueski's probing query, "Why did it take so long for anybody to look into this on a serious level?" brings to the fore a pressing issue that has haunted child welfare advocates for years.

Brueski is quick to clarify his stance, emphasizing that his intention isn’t to demean the many dedicated workers within the child protective services system. "I've always have to be careful with that because there are many people in it who work their ass off and are not funded. They don't have the resources to do their job correctly." The real culprit, Brueski suggests, may not just be an underfunded system but individuals like Ruby, who know how to play the game all too well.

Offering a deeper perspective, Lori Hellis, a criminal defense lawyer with substantial experience in juvenile cases, sheds light on the delicate balance child welfare systems must strike. "In every state, there is this tightrope between the rights of a parent to raise their children as they see fit, and when that tips over into abuse and neglect," Hellis explains. The challenge for CPS investigators lies in discerning genuine threats from benign but nonconventional parenting practices.

Hellis goes on to highlight the complexities that investigators face in cases that, on the surface, present no obvious signs of neglect or abuse. "So They go into a home and they see a home that is appropriately furnished. The kids have food. They appear to be being homeschooled in a responsible way." The key, according to her, is determining if there is a "true risk of harm" to the children.

This conundrum becomes even more profound in homes that are upscale and wield significant societal influence. As Brueski poignantly questions, "Are people getting better at hiding this stuff?" The conversation delves into how our societal perceptions can often be misguided, equating affluence or apparent happiness with well-being.

Hellis raises an alarming point about how the digital age might be aiding these deceptive tendencies. With the vast amount of information available online, she believes people have become more adept at understanding what the state looks for and, consequently, how to hide potential red flags. The darker corners of the internet may empower wrongdoers with the tools they need to elude detection.

The episode then shifts to the nuances of emotional abuse, a form of mistreatment often overlooked because of its intangibility. As Brueski puts it, "It's also a reflection just of how we handle mental health in our country to begin with." The discussion concludes with a heart-wrenching case involving Ruby Frankie, illustrating how the unsuspecting are sometimes trapped in toxic therapeutic relationships, manipulated by unscrupulous individuals who exploit their client's vulnerabilities.

In light of such complexities, one can't help but ponder: are we facing a systemic failure, or is it the evolving mastery of deceit that's to blame? The conversation on "Hidden Killers" serves as a compelling reminder that, in the age of information, we must be ever vigilant and discerning, constantly challenging our perceptions and assumptions.

As we reflect on the intricate dance between a possibly flawed system and the cunning deception of some individuals, one has to wonder: In an age where appearances can be so deceiving, how can we truly safeguard our most vulnerable?

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In a chilling episode of the "Hidden Killers" podcast, host Tony Brueski unravels the disturbing story of prominent YouTube personality Ruby Frank and her business associate Jodi Hildebrandt. As the allegations come to light, questions about modern parenting, the perils of social media validation, and the influence of public opinion take center stage. The revelations leave listeners grappling with the blurred lines between public perception and a grim reality.

Ruby Frank, famed for her YouTube channel "Eight Passengers," and Hildebrandt found themselves embroiled in controversy when a 911 call exposed a harrowing scene: an emaciated 12-year-old boy, covered in wounds and bound with duct tape, desperately seeking refuge at a neighbor’s home. According to the call, the boy had managed to escape from Hildebrandt's residence, where both women were present.

Brueski questions, "How could mothers, especially ones so visibly present in the public eye, allegedly engage in such abusive behavior with their children?" The podcast reveals that while these alleged abuses weren’t explicitly shown on camera, there were veiled jokes hinting at abuse.

Retired FBI Special Agent Robin Dreeke provides a possible answer, suggesting a deep-seated need for external validation. “This is what happens when you fall in love with your own voice,” Dreeke states, highlighting the delicate balance between 'informers' and 'me formers' on social media. For Ruby, who seemed to prioritize showcasing her life on the platform, the balance seemed tilted towards the latter.

Dreeke goes on to dissect the probable causes for such behavior, suggesting that the convergence of personal insecurities, a strict parenting style, and the hunt for validation on public platforms can create a toxic cycle. “When you start normalizing bad behavior, it becomes easier to escalate it,” Dreeke remarks. This escalating cycle might have been exacerbated when Hildebrandt, who might share similar beliefs, became a significant part of Ruby’s life.

The role of Ruby's husband, who occasionally appeared in her videos but has not been charged with any wrongdoing, remains a murky area. Brueski expresses incredulity, questioning whether the father was genuinely oblivious to the situation or perhaps another victim of abuse himself. The podcast touches upon the possibility of trauma bonding, wherein victims form emotional attachments with their abusers.

A pivotal question remains: Why did it take so long for authorities to intervene? Despite previous petitions to Child Protective Services, the situation only came to a head with the recent dramatic escape of the boy. Dreeke alludes to the gradual desensitization of regular viewers who, accustomed to incremental increases in alarming behavior, may not recognize the situation's severity. However, an outsider or a professional might view the same behavior and recognize it as deeply troubling.

The podcast "Hidden Killers" has thrown into sharp relief the complexities surrounding digital age parenting, the allure and danger of online validation, and society's role in perpetuating or preventing such situations. As we reflect on this distressing revelation, we're left to ponder: In a world where our lives are increasingly on display, how can we discern between genuine reality and a curated facade, especially when the stakes are so high?

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Is it possible that behind the camera lens of some of our favorite family influencers lies a disturbing reality?

Recent shocking revelations surrounding YouTube personalities, Ruby Frank from 8 Passengers and her business partner, Jodi Hildebrandt, have left fans and audiences worldwide grappling with disbelief and betrayal. The arrest of the duo followed a chilling 911 call, in which a 12-year-old boy, identified as one of Ruby's children, appeared at a neighbor's home - emaciated, wounded, and bound with duct tape.

"This one, I don't know if it should shock me or not, but it kind of does considering the following that she had," remarked Tony Brueski, host of the podcast "Hidden Killers", during a recent episode.

Brueski and his guest, Defense Attorney Bob Motta from Defense Diaries, delved deep into this alarming incident, attempting to reconcile how a seemingly strict 'old school' parent who once broadcasted minor parenting faux pas could escalate to such horrifying actions.

Evidence of the alleged abuse came to light when "the kids start coming forward", Motta mentioned. Ruby's YouTube channel had showcased her strict parenting techniques in the past. An incident where her six-year-old was responsible for her lunch and was publicly chastised for forgetting it raised eyebrows. While some viewers perceived it as Ruby teaching her children life lessons, others were quick to criticize her approach.

The lines between stern parenting and outright abuse seem blurred for many, and unfortunately, some influencers might be pushing these boundaries to dangerous extremes. In discussing the difference between teaching children accountability and outright neglect, Motta highlighted, "There are parents that still abide by, you know, spare the rod, spoil the child type of mindset, a long way from like when I was growing up."

However, what remains more confounding is the consistent absence of intervention. Despite allegations and complaints, including some from Ruby's own 20-year-old daughter, Child Protective Services (CPS) failed to act. As Motta emphasized, these children are not toddlers. They have a voice, yet for some reason, it was overlooked, echoing haunting similarities to other cases of children being unheard, like that of Lucy Studi.

Motta, while comparing this situation, said, "Like how scary and frustrating that must be for children who are just not being heard." Adding another layer of complexity, Jodi Hildebrandt's involvement, Ruby's business partner, and the complicity of Ruby's husband, who claims to have been unaware of the ongoing abuse, paints a grim picture of children caught in a web of adult manipulation.

Yet, as this investigation progresses, truth and justice may be on the horizon. With the victims themselves acting as witnesses, Motta reassured listeners, "We do have very much eyewitnesses as to exactly what was going on in that house and for how long and by whom. So if it's a secret, it's not going to stay secret for long."

As followers of family influencers, this case acts as a haunting reminder that all might not be as it appears. For the children involved, the hope is that justice will prevail, and they will finally find peace after years of torment.

As the digital age thrusts parents into the spotlight, where do we draw the line between harmless content and the potential exploitation or even abuse of children?

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Is the line between cult behavior and entrepreneurial drive blurred in the recent spotlight on Jodi Hildebrandt's controversial group? Recent discussions on the podcast "Hidden Killers" delved deep into the actions and influence of Jodi Hildebrandt and her associate, Ruby Franke.

During the conversation, Tony Brueski and criminal defense lawyer Lori Hellis broke down the unsettling nuances that surround the activities of Hildebrandt and Franke. “Anytime you have an organization that is formed around a central figure...it certainly has cult overtones,” Hellis said. In Hildebrandt's case, her belief system and the proclamation that those who didn't adhere would face severe repercussions gave rise to serious concern. The dynamic between Hildebrandt and Franke became even murkier with the revelation of Franke's 2 million followers on YouTube and the subsequent potential monetary advantages.

Drawing parallels with the Lori Vallow Daybell case, Brueski questioned the motivations of such figures. “Was it money? Was it control?” he asked. The underlying intentions might be obscured, but a clear link to financial gain was established when it was revealed that Franke secured $87,000 in PPP loans for her YouTube channel. This revelation adds another layer to the complex dynamics at play.

A notable element in this discussion is the adoption of the “love and logic” parenting approach from the 1990s by Hildebrandt and Franke. Hellis mentioned, “I think they do believe that is the way to, to appropriately parent...she's got the answer and people want it and she can get them to pay for it.” However, this approach has taken a dark turn. The extreme methods used by Hildebrandt went far beyond typical strict parenting. Brueski highlighted, "It just seems to go way off the rails. How does someone end up sitting in their home duct-taping their children up and abusing them and going, ‘Yeah, this is strict parenting’?"

The conversation turned even more harrowing with the account of Jodi's niece, Jessie, who spoke of the severe and unimaginable discipline she endured under Hildebrandt's care. Hellis said, “For Ruby Franke's children, she had cut them off from everyone...the first thing the abuser does is isolate their victim.” This isolation is a telltale sign of abusive patterns and manipulation.

The responsibility and knowledge of Ruby Franke's husband became a crucial aspect of the conversation. Hellis gave insights into the possibility of him being more passive in the face of Franke's parenting tactics, implying that while he may not have directly been complicit, his passive stance potentially enabled the continued abuse. There were speculations about him wanting to reunite the family, but how much he knew or intervened remains a grey area.

From this conversation, one thing is evident: the line between cult behavior, delusional beliefs, and a drive for entrepreneurial success has been muddled in the activities of Jodi Hildebrandt and Ruby Franke. Their methods, beliefs, and actions pose significant concerns that demand scrutiny.

But as we delve into the motivations and intentions behind such controversial figures, one can't help but wonder: at what point does the drive for success or adherence to belief systems transform into dangerous fanaticism?

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Can the divide between organized religion and personal spirituality give rise to cases of child abuse, and how does accountability fit in?
 
 In a recent episode of the "Hidden Killers" podcast hosted by Tony Brueski, a riveting conversation with Clinical and Forensic Psychologist & Licensed Private Investigator Joni Johnston sheds light on a case that has gripped many - the troubling tale of Ruby Franke and Jody Hildebrandt, known as the Mormon mommy bloggers. These women have found themselves submerged in allegations of child abuse, a narrative that not only places their lives under scrutiny but also poses questions about the role of organized religion in these actions.
 
 To provide some context, Ruby Franke and her husband, Kevin, according to their attorney, have been separated for roughly 13 months, with Ruby living with Jody Hildebrandt. During this period, one of their children allegedly "escaped" their residence and sought refuge in a neighbor's house. Kevin, as per his lawyer, emphasizes his commitment to "doing what's best for his kids" and aims to rebuild familial bridges.
 
 Brueski probed Johnston on Kevin's awareness of the events transpiring in the Franke household, to which she responded, "It's hard to imagine that he didn't know some of what was going on for sure... Based on the information I have, how much of an active participant he was, but I would be very surprised if he did not know some of what was going on." Johnston speculated that things might have escalated after their separation, but some of their older children have indicated that such behavior has been ongoing for years.
 
 One pressing theme emerged from the dialogue: the link between organized religion, in this case, the Mormon faith, and instances of abuse. Several recent cases involving individuals of the Mormon faith exhibited extreme parental tactics, leading to the question of how much organized religion plays a role in such actions. Johnston observed, "It isn't necessarily the religion's fault if people then distort those religious beliefs or twist them for their own benefit."
 
 This raises an intriguing angle about the juxtaposition between organized religion and personal spirituality. Johnston pointed out how some might misuse religion as a shield, hindering them from seeking professional mental health care because it could be perceived as a "weakness of faith."
 
 The conversation took a deeper turn when Brueski highlighted a concern - the Mormon Church's endorsement of Jody Hildebrandt as a counselor. This endorsement, coupled with the ongoing situation, evoked the question: "Is this a reflection of a greater problem within that church?"
 
 Johnston's perspective on the matter brings up another pivotal point – the uneasy relationship between religion and mental health. She stressed the need for a clear boundary between one's religious beliefs and mental health care, especially when dealing with sensitive cases. "One of the most difficult things about this case for me is that Jody Hildebrand is a mental health professional," said Johnston, adding how unsettling it is to think that a mental health professional could endorse abusive tactics.
 
 Another alarming revelation from the discussion was the multiple alerts Child Protective Services received from concerned neighbors about the Franke children's welfare. Still, it took an extreme situation for proper action to be taken. Johnston shared her experience working with abused kids, highlighting the systemic problems within child welfare agencies, from understaffing to the dilemma of prioritizing family unity over child safety. Brueski and Johnston both championed the need for better resources and systems to protect children genuinely.
 
 In an era where we advocate for children's safety and mental well-being, stories like these force society to reckon with its values and beliefs. The case of Ruby Franke and Jody Hildebrandt presents more than just a story of alleged abuse; it unravels complex webs of religion, societal norms, and accountability.
 
 In the face of these revelations, one is left to ponder: Where do personal beliefs end and the need for professional intervention begin?
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In the latest episode of the podcast "Hidden Killers," hosted by Tony Brueski and featuring insights from former FBI Special Agent Jennifer Coffindaffer, some alarming details surrounding the husband of Ruby Franke, Kevin Franke, have emerged.
 
 The unfolding case against the notorious mommy bloggers has seen new twists with the recent statements from Kevin Franke, who claimed through his attorneys to be "focused on doing what's best for the kids." This comment comes in light of the shocking revelations of abuse allegations involving Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt.
 
 But Brueski points out an unsettling nuance: Despite being separated from Ruby for 13 months, Kevin seemingly allowed his children to stay with Ruby, without any qualms. Coffindaffer noted, "It just doesn't pass the smell test." She referred to an older daughter who had previously made allegations, suggesting Kevin was aware of the dire situation. Even without direct contact, the visibly emaciated state of the children should have raised alarms.
 
 Most disturbing were references to the children's alleged physical states – with indications of injuries consistent with being restrained with duct tape. Coffindaffer remains skeptical of Kevin's professed ignorance, stating, "I just don't believe he knew nothing."
 
 The consensus? Kevin Franke is possibly keeping silent to avoid implicating himself. Coffindaffer speculates that Ruby might eventually shift blame onto him, suggesting he could hold critical information on the events of those years.
 
 Yet, another compelling twist emerged when Kevin's attorney hinted at his possible involvement in past traumatic events. Whether inadvertently or not, the comment suggested more than what met the eye during the period when Ruby was with Jodi Hildebrandt.
 
 Coffindaffer elaborated on the situation, commenting on the inadvertent admission: "I don't think he meant to really make that quasi admission... but he did." This slip has left many speculating about the depth of Kevin's involvement.
 
 Brueski, taking a somewhat sympathetic view, hypothesizes that Kevin might have been abused by Ruby as well. He said, "Is that he too was probably abused by Ruby. I don't know how involved he would have been with the abuse." Coffindaffer, on the other hand, expresses frustration, urging Kevin to "man up" and share the true extent of what transpired, for the sake of his children.
 
 The parallels drawn between the Franke situation and the Lori Vallow Daybell case suggest a more complex narrative beneath the surface, with potential elements of 'magical thinking.'
 
 As the story unravels, one crucial question remains: If Kevin Franke is, indeed, privy to deeper secrets, will he finally break his silence, or will these potential truths remain hidden?
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In a riveting episode of "Hidden Killers," host Tony Brueski delves deep into the murky waters of child protective services, exploring the intersection between a broken system and the masterful deceit of individuals like Ruby, a narcissist who manages to fool the system at every turn. Brueski's probing query, "Why did it take so long for anybody to look into this on a serious level?" brings to the fore a pressing issue that has haunted child welfare advocates for years.
 
 Brueski is quick to clarify his stance, emphasizing that his intention isn’t to demean the many dedicated workers within the child protective services system. "I've always have to be careful with that because there are many people in it who work their ass off and are not funded. They don't have the resources to do their job correctly." The real culprit, Brueski suggests, may not just be an underfunded system but individuals like Ruby, who know how to play the game all too well.
 
 Offering a deeper perspective, Lori Hellis, a criminal defense lawyer with substantial experience in juvenile cases, sheds light on the delicate balance child welfare systems must strike. "In every state, there is this tightrope between the rights of a parent to raise their children as they see fit, and when that tips over into abuse and neglect," Hellis explains. The challenge for CPS investigators lies in discerning genuine threats from benign but nonconventional parenting practices.
 
 Hellis goes on to highlight the complexities that investigators face in cases that, on the surface, present no obvious signs of neglect or abuse. "So They go into a home and they see a home that is appropriately furnished. The kids have food. They appear to be being homeschooled in a responsible way." The key, according to her, is determining if there is a "true risk of harm" to the children.
 
 This conundrum becomes even more profound in homes that are upscale and wield significant societal influence. As Brueski poignantly questions, "Are people getting better at hiding this stuff?" The conversation delves into how our societal perceptions can often be misguided, equating affluence or apparent happiness with well-being.
 
 Hellis raises an alarming point about how the digital age might be aiding these deceptive tendencies. With the vast amount of information available online, she believes people have become more adept at understanding what the state looks for and, consequently, how to hide potential red flags. The darker corners of the internet may empower wrongdoers with the tools they need to elude detection.
 
 The episode then shifts to the nuances of emotional abuse, a form of mistreatment often overlooked because of its intangibility. As Brueski puts it, "It's also a reflection just of how we handle mental health in our country to begin with." The discussion concludes with a heart-wrenching case involving Ruby Frankie, illustrating how the unsuspecting are sometimes trapped in toxic therapeutic relationships, manipulated by unscrupulous individuals who exploit their client's vulnerabilities.
 
 In light of such complexities, one can't help but ponder: are we facing a systemic failure, or is it the evolving mastery of deceit that's to blame? The conversation on "Hidden Killers" serves as a compelling reminder that, in the age of information, we must be ever vigilant and discerning, constantly challenging our perceptions and assumptions.
 
 As we reflect on the intricate dance between a possibly flawed system and the cunning deception of some individuals, one has to wonder: In an age where appearances can be so deceiving, how can we truly safeguard our most vulnerable?
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In a riveting episode of "Hidden Killers," Tony Brueski delves deep into the perplexing details surrounding a recent crime scene with psychotherapist and author Shavaun Scott. The scene, as described, is nothing short of chilling: ritualistic markings, runes on bodies, and blood allegedly painted on a tree, suggesting an odinistic ritualistic killing.
 
 "The scary thing is some of the connections that are made in the defense letter... It checks out," Brueski reveals, pointing to the involvement of individuals deeply entrenched in the odinistic religion. Their social media profiles, laden with odinistic symbols and references, further solidify the connection. More alarmingly, evidence, including a potential confession to a girlfriend, seems to have been overlooked, leading to Richard Allen's arrest.
 
 Scott, while intrigued, approaches the topic with a healthy dose of skepticism. "It's just not common," she remarks, questioning the logic of a criminal leaving behind such blatant clues. Drawing from her knowledge, she recalls a similar case in California where three teenage boys committed a satanic ritualistic murder. "They left a trail a mile long," she notes, emphasizing the irrationality of such acts.
 
 Brueski, grappling with the gravity of the situation, poses a question that many are likely pondering: "If anyone is participating in this sort of thing... what are they believing that they're getting out of that?" Scott's response paints a grim picture. She suggests that such acts might be the result of psychotic tendencies, where individuals are completely detached from reality. "This kind of thing is getting into psychosis," she states, emphasizing the sheer irrationality of ritualistic killings.
 
 The conversation takes a darker turn as the duo delves into the possibility of group involvement. While it's one thing for an individual to be swayed by psychotic tendencies, the idea of a group collectively participating in such heinous acts is even more unsettling. Brueski points out, "We see it in movies... I think we think that this doesn't really go on in reality." Scott, however, reminds listeners of the Manson family's ritualized killings, highlighting the potential for impaired individuals to commit unspeakable acts under the right influence.
 
 As the episode concludes, one thing is clear: while ritualistic killings rooted in ancient religions like Odinism are rare, they are not entirely unheard of. Scott's insights serve as a chilling reminder that while such acts are "pretty darn uncommon," they do, unfortunately, occur.
 
 In a world where ancient beliefs intersect with modern crimes, how do we differentiate between genuine religious practices and sinister misinterpretations?
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How did it remain under the radar for so long? This is the burning question that Tony Brueski and Jennifer Coffindaffer grapple with in a recent episode of "Hidden Killers". Ruby Franke's case has baffled many, especially when neighbors insist they weren't looking the other way but instead were actively trying to help. The actual barrier? The Free Range Parenting Law of Utah.
 
 "Several of us tried to help. One neighbor commented saying, I know people left food on doorsteps knowing the kids might not be eating," recounts Brueski. Neighbors knew something was amiss and many reportedly made calls to the Department of Child and Family Services (DCFS) and the police. Yet, the children's lack of visible injuries meant that the hands of the law were tied. According to Brueski, the Free Range Parenting Law in Utah allows parents to leave their children alone if deemed of a responsible age, unless there are injuries.
 
 Coffindaffer, a former FBI Special Agent, interjects with a nuanced perspective, acknowledging the legitimacy of a child's right to independence at a certain age but highlighting its boundaries. "That at a certain age, a child could be left alone. But again, there's usually time limits on that... for being able to be on your own and it not being dangerous to the child in many states. It's about 12 years old that age is but there's a time limit and it's not weeks and it's not days," she stated emphatically.
 
 The law's application in the Franke case, however, has raised eyebrows. "That law that they have in Utah is in many states, but it's completely absurd to stretch that law to cover what was going on in this situation," Coffindaffer argues. She points out that neglect through starvation is separate and should not be hidden behind the Free Range Parenting Law. "Child welfare services in Utah has a lot explaining to do because there's no way you can hide behind the law they're talking about and explain starvation and neglect," she emphasized.
 
 Brueski dives deeper into the peculiarities of Utah's legal system, suggesting that Utah's approach to these laws might have nuances that are different from other states. "Every time we talk about Utah, things are always just a little bit odd or different or don't quite make sense in so many of the legal ramifications in cases," he observes, questioning how much "gray area" Utah's legal framework allows.
 
 Coffindaffer concurs with Brueski's sentiment, pointing out that Utah has what may be described as a "liberal application" when it comes to parenting decisions. "Out of all the states there are, you know, Utah is where you're going to see the most liberal application in terms of these sort of parenting, you know, free range decisions," she stated.
 
 The revelations in the "Hidden Killers" podcast spotlight the potential dangers of laws that may be well-intentioned but can inadvertently create loopholes that endanger the welfare of children. The ongoing discussions surrounding Ruby Franke's case serve as a cautionary tale, prompting a re-evaluation of laws and their applications.
 
 However, as the discourse around Ruby Franke's case and the Free Range Parenting Law continues, the question that still lingers is: Are there more cases of neglect concealed behind the veil of laws that were meant to protect?
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Can the pursuit of personal introspection and reconciliation save a broken home? In the recent episode of the podcast "Hidden Killers," host Tony Brueski delved into the complex dynamics of the Franke household, seeking insights from attorney and former Federal prosecutor Neama Rahmani.
 
 Kevin Franke, husband to the now infamous Ruby Franke, relayed a message through his attorney, emphasizing his commitment to prioritize their children's well-being. He stated he's been separated from Ruby for 13 months and wishes to "rebuild and bridge relationships," steering clear of blame games. But, as Rahmani queried, "Is this someone who's trying to get in front of this and not be charged as well?" The skepticism surrounding Kevin's intentions stems from disturbing allegations surrounding the household.
 
 The chilling details brought forward allege instances where children's wounds were treated with a concoction of cayenne pepper and honey. Rahmani remarked, "It really takes a special kind of evil when you're dressing wounds with cayenne pepper and honey." Such horrendous accounts beg the question of Kevin's involvement or awareness and if he too was a victim of Ruby's manipulation or abuse.
 
 Neighbours had consistently raised red flags about the Franke household's unsettling atmosphere. In their attempts to offer aid, some even left food at the doorstep, suspecting the children were malnourished. But their concerns seemingly fell on deaf ears, as interactions with the Utah Division of Child and Family Services left them believing that the agency's hands were tied due to Utah's free-range parenting law.
 
 Rahmani criticizes this inaction, asserting that the evidence against Ruby Franke was compelling enough for intervention. "You can't tell me that law enforcement, social workers can't come in," he argued, emphasizing the ease with which a search warrant can be procured if there's probable cause of a crime. For Rahmani, the situation speaks to a broader, systemic issue, where child protective services, time and again, seem ill-equipped and overwhelmed.
 
 "The crimes are committed in the dark," Rahmani points out, highlighting the hidden nature of such abuses, shielded further by the veil of secrecy that covers juvenile cases. He suggested that the lack of public scrutiny on such agencies – a result of the confidentiality shrouding child-related cases – might be hindering their accountability. "There's nobody that can hold their feet to the fire or not as easily hold their feet to the fire until something goes horribly wrong," Brueski concurred.
 
 In Rahmani's view, the differential treatment and pressure experienced by various prosecutorial bodies play a significant role in their efficacy. While certain investigators are held accountable, either directly or indirectly, through electoral mechanisms, organizations like the DCFS don't necessarily share the same level of scrutiny. "DCFS obviously operates a little bit differently or Child Protective Services," Rahmani remarked.
 
 The Franke case shines a spotlight on the pressing need to reassess and reform child protective systems nationwide. Without appropriate resources, training, and accountability mechanisms in place, such agencies risk repeating the tragedies that befall families like the Frankes.
 
 How many more hidden tragedies must unfold before our system wakes up to the silent cries of the vulnerable?
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Is the line between cult behavior and entrepreneurial drive blurred in the recent spotlight on Jodi Hildebrandt's controversial group? Recent discussions on the podcast "Hidden Killers" delved deep into the actions and influence of Jodi Hildebrandt and her associate, Ruby Franke.
 
 During the conversation, Tony Brueski and criminal defense lawyer Lori Hellis broke down the unsettling nuances that surround the activities of Hildebrandt and Franke. “Anytime you have an organization that is formed around a central figure...it certainly has cult overtones,” Hellis said. In Hildebrandt's case, her belief system and the proclamation that those who didn't adhere would face severe repercussions gave rise to serious concern. The dynamic between Hildebrandt and Franke became even murkier with the revelation of Franke's 2 million followers on YouTube and the subsequent potential monetary advantages.
 
 Drawing parallels with the Lori Vallow Daybell case, Brueski questioned the motivations of such figures. “Was it money? Was it control?” he asked. The underlying intentions might be obscured, but a clear link to financial gain was established when it was revealed that Franke secured $87,000 in PPP loans for her YouTube channel. This revelation adds another layer to the complex dynamics at play.
 
 A notable element in this discussion is the adoption of the “love and logic” parenting approach from the 1990s by Hildebrandt and Franke. Hellis mentioned, “I think they do believe that is the way to, to appropriately parent...she's got the answer and people want it and she can get them to pay for it.” However, this approach has taken a dark turn. The extreme methods used by Hildebrandt went far beyond typical strict parenting. Brueski highlighted, "It just seems to go way off the rails. How does someone end up sitting in their home duct-taping their children up and abusing them and going, ‘Yeah, this is strict parenting’?"
 
 The conversation turned even more harrowing with the account of Jodi's niece, Jessie, who spoke of the severe and unimaginable discipline she endured under Hildebrandt's care. Hellis said, “For Ruby Franke's children, she had cut them off from everyone...the first thing the abuser does is isolate their victim.” This isolation is a telltale sign of abusive patterns and manipulation.
 
 The responsibility and knowledge of Ruby Franke's husband became a crucial aspect of the conversation. Hellis gave insights into the possibility of him being more passive in the face of Franke's parenting tactics, implying that while he may not have directly been complicit, his passive stance potentially enabled the continued abuse. There were speculations about him wanting to reunite the family, but how much he knew or intervened remains a grey area.
 
 From this conversation, one thing is evident: the line between cult behavior, delusional beliefs, and a drive for entrepreneurial success has been muddled in the activities of Jodi Hildebrandt and Ruby Franke. Their methods, beliefs, and actions pose significant concerns that demand scrutiny.
 
 But as we delve into the motivations and intentions behind such controversial figures, one can't help but wonder: at what point does the drive for success or adherence to belief systems transform into dangerous fanaticism?
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What drives an individual to the brink where fame and attention take precedence over the welfare of their own children? In the recent episode of "Hidden Killers," Tony Brueski delves into the perplexing and deeply disturbing case of Ruby Franke with Robin Dreeke, retired FBI Special Agent and Chief of the Counterintelligence Behavioral Analysis Program.
 
 Brueski ponders the motivations behind Franke and Jody Hildebrandt's actions: "Was it money? Was it control? Was it delusions of the religious beliefs that they held?" These haunting questions set the stage for a deep dive into the psyche and motivations of individuals pushed to extremes by societal pressures.
 
 Dreeke reflects on the videos of Franke's sisters and describes the apparent competition between them. "It screams of the disease of a cult of more and the disease of comparison between sisters." The sisters, each with their own vlogging careers, seem to be caught in an insidious competition. He notes, "Ruby just went above and beyond because she wasn't getting the attention that she thought she deserved. She wanted more views."
 
 But why this incessant need for attention? Dreeke further explains that the environment in which the Franke family thrived spoke of one-upmanship. "What drove them to that? What sort of tendency made them all feel that this is the way to go?" Brueski added, reflecting on the oddity of every adult sister in the family vlogging for a living.
 
 The conversation then turns to an even more profound issue – the difference between "informers" and "me formers." Dreeke suggests that while informers put out information for the benefit of others, "me formers" are centered around self-promotion, often rationalizing their actions as beneficial for their audience. The Franke family, according to Dreeke, seems to consist mainly of "me formers."
 
 In the case of Ruby Franke, her quest for fame and attention, combined with her competitive nature, seems to have overshadowed her moral compass, leading to the grave mistreatment of her own children. "She was in competition in her own mind against them to better them, to make herself feel better, to make herself feel valued for whatever insecurity," Dreeke hypothesizes.
 
 One of the most chilling aspects of the discussion revolves around the normalization of abnormal behavior. Dreeke equates the situation to a "slow boiling frog" where people start accepting and normalizing behavior at a gradual level. By the time the severity of the situation is realized, it has escalated to alarming levels.
 
 Brueski laments the missed red flags, "There were a lot of people for a long time that felt that Ruby was off." Yet, even with these warnings, it took an extreme situation – a child escaping from her custody – for decisive action to be taken. Dreeke urges listeners to recognize the signs and speak out: "See something, say something."
 
 The conversation wrapped with a somber reflection on the pressures of modern society. The relentless drive for attention, validation, and comparison can lead individuals down dangerous paths. Dreeke emphasizes, "You were in a slow boiling kettle and you didn't realize that you were being manipulated by her normalizing abnormal behavior gradually."
 
 As the story of Ruby Franke continues to unfold, it serves as a stark reminder of the dangers of unchecked ambition and the dark side of social media fame.
 
 In today's world, where the quest for likes, views, and subscribers often supersedes genuine human connection, one must ask: How can we ensure the line between reality and the digital world doesn't blur to the point of no return?
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When faced with a family scandal of immense proportions, the world tends to divide into two sides: those who stand by the accused and those who denounce them. But what happens when the lines are blurred, and the innocence of a parent is questioned? In a recent episode of the "Hidden Killers" podcast, hosted by Tony Brueski, a compelling dialogue with Defense Attorney and Host of "Defense Diaries," Bob Motta, delves deep into this gray area, examining the involvement of Kevin Frankie, a father caught in a vortex of allegations against his spouse.
 
 Kevin Frankie's wife, Ruby, is currently incarcerated, along with Jodi Hildebrand. While Kevin asserts his primary focus is on doing what's best for his children, his statements and actions have led many to question his true motives. Was he genuinely unaware of his wife's alleged misconduct, or was he a silent bystander or even, possibly, an active participant?
 
 "Is he really just trying to cover his tracks right now and be the good guy when maybe he was looking the other way for quite some time, or who knows?" Tony Brueski posits. It's a question that strikes at the heart of the matter, drawing attention to the possibility that Kevin might have been more involved, or at least aware, than he lets on.
 
 However, as Motta astutely points out, the most critical testimony in this convoluted case will come from the children themselves. "What I care about is what the kids are going to say," says Motta. These children, being older and not toddlers, have a comprehensive understanding of what transpired and their testimonies could play a pivotal role in shaping the outcome.
 
 The delicate balance of family dynamics comes to the fore when one considers the psychological and emotional burden the children bear. They find themselves in the unenviable position of potentially having both their parents imprisoned, and the choices they make regarding their testimonies will inevitably reflect their struggles with this reality.
 
 In a notable remark made by Kevin's attorney, Kevin was cited as being keen on reaching out to his children, family, and friends to address and heal from past traumas. Such a statement could be interpreted in several ways. Is Kevin referring to the actions of his wife, Ruby, or hinting at his own complicity or passive involvement?
 
 Tony Brueski hints at a deeper, more introspective realization Kevin might be experiencing: "Maybe I wasn't the best dad. Maybe I looked the other way on some things." This sentiment is mirrored by Motta, who emphasizes the overwhelming guilt parents often feel when they believe they've failed their children.
 
 The dynamic between Ruby and Kevin is further complicated by the financial aspect. Their streaming venture was lucrative, with Ruby seemingly holding significant influence due to her being the "star of the show." This monetary power could have been a tool of manipulation, allowing Ruby to exert control over Kevin, as Motta theorizes, comparing the situation to cases where one partner holds financial dominance over the other.
 
 In the end, the episode paints a harrowing picture of a family torn apart, not just by alleged misconduct but also by the complexities of their interpersonal relationships and external influences.
 
 However, one question remains: Was Kevin Frankie truly an unsuspecting victim in this chaos, or was his silence an indication of complicity?
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When a loved one is responsible for grave misconduct, would you notice? A recent episode of the podcast "Hidden Killers" delved into the puzzling dynamics of the Ruby Hildebrandt case, raising questions about her husband's knowledge and involvement.

Ruby Hildebrandt’s parenting methods, as described in the podcast, bordered on the sadistic. Host Tony Brueski referenced her husband's claims that he is now focused on doing what's best for his kids, following the revelations. He wishes to rebuild relationships and even heal past traumas without indulging in the blame game.
 
 Shavaun Scott, a psychotherapist and author, weighed in on the matter. "Clearly he was present when the parenting was going on, at least a lot of it, the very punitive and strict and almost sadistic ways that Ruby treated the children." Scott highlighted the complexities of realizing the severity of a situation when the perpetrator is someone close to you.
 
 Ruby’s husband, despite being an academically accomplished individual, seemed to have lacked insight into his wife’s actions. "You can be a very intelligent person and have zero insight," said Scott. This observation brings forth a significant concern: the husband's possible victimhood. Was he also under Ruby's manipulative hold or genuinely oblivious to the ongoing abuse?
 
 The podcast hinted at a wider audience becoming aware of the abuse through a YouTube channel, while Ruby’s husband seemingly remained in the dark. It suggested a theory wherein Ruby, much like Laurie Daybell, another infamous case discussed, utilized her charming persona and particular use of language to veil her sinister actions. Scott added, "It could confuse a person who doesn’t have a lot of insight, and who knows the ways that their relationship operated and the ways that she took the power and control."
 
 The profound damage done to the children is undeniable, but Scott sees a potential silver lining in therapy. Addressing the husband’s possible realization, she said, "Maybe, you know, it is a light bulb moment for him." However, acknowledging the wrongdoings is only the first step. True reparation will undoubtedly be a long and strenuous journey, especially with the children.
 
 She ended her analysis with a poignant remark, expressing intrigue in taking him on as a therapy patient. "It may sound odd, but this would be a fun one looking at it as a therapist to try to do some therapy with him and see how much insight he can really develop."
 
 So, as we delve deeper into this unsettling narrative of the Ruby Hildebrandt case, the question remains: How often do individuals remain blind to the actions of their loved ones, and when they do see, is it ever too late to make amends?
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Utah has been thrown into a whirlwind of controversy following the arrest of YouTube vlogger Ruby Franke's business partner, Jodi Hildebrandt, on child abuse charges. Alongside Franke, Hildebrandt was involved in counseling Mormon couples and families through her life coaching service, ConneXions. However, former patients are now shedding light on practices they believe were more akin to a cult than genuine counseling.

Hildebrandt's program, described by seven former patients who accessed her services between 2008 and 2019, methodically isolated individuals from their loved ones, used "truth" and "deception" to manipulate perceptions, and even reportedly shattered marriages. "She wanted everything to stay in the group. You’re not allowed to have a different opinion than her," commented Stephanie Jones, a former patient.

The revelations come amidst a shocking incident where Franke’s malnourished 10-year-old daughter and injured 12-year-old son were found in Hildebrandt's residence, leading to both women facing six counts of felony child abuse. It's essential to underline that these charges are unrelated to the allegations emerging about the ConneXions program.

ConneXions, which Hildebrandt established in 2007, provided courses on relationships and parenting, rooted in the principles of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS). A primary theme of the program is the dichotomy of "truth" and "deception." When individuals allowed their personal wants, needs, and experiences to overshadow these "truths," they were living in "distortion," according to the ConneXions course material reviewed by NBC News.

Although Franke was prominently featured alongside Hildebrandt in service videos, none of the former clients who came forward claimed to have been counseled by her.

The depth of Hildebrandt's misgivings runs deep, particularly with her focus on porn and sex addiction, especially for men. It's significant to note that "porn addiction" isn't recognized as a legitimate disorder by the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5). Yet, it appears Hildebrandt, formerly specializing in "porn addiction" therapy, had no qualms diagnosing men without evidence of abnormal behaviors.

Spencer Tibbets' story illustrates the profound disconnect in Hildebrandt's methods. At just 16, Tibbets, who had clandestinely obtained a phone for video games, was thrust into a men's group primarily focusing on porn addiction. Despite his lack of understanding about porn, he was exposed to disturbing conversations involving the sexual fantasies of fellow group members.

In a past transgression, Hildebrandt faced disciplinary action by Utah officials in 2012 for breaching confidentiality with one of her patients, who later turned out to be Adam Paul Steed. Following this, he had his church privileges revoked, got temporarily suspended from Brigham Young University (BYU), and underwent a divorce, all consequences of Hildebrandt's disclosures and allegations. Reflecting on the devastation, Steed lamented, "My family got destroyed. My life got destroyed."

For women like Stephanie Jones and Eliza Tibbets, Hildebrandt's diagnosis of "control addiction" seemed not only unprofessional but also mentally and emotionally detrimental. Both recounted feeling trapped, controlled, and constantly berated if they ever defied Hildebrandt's views.

Hildebrandt's professional standing took a major hit recently. The Utah Division of Professional Licensing disclosed last week that she voluntarily surrendered her mental health counseling license, although it remains active but limited. With the dark cloud of abuse allegations looming over her, Hildebrandt's future in mental health counseling looks bleak.

It remains to be seen how these events will unfold, but for now, the tale of Jodi Hildebrandt and ConneXions serves as a chilling reminder of the perils of blind trust in authority figures. As investigations continue, Utah's community will no doubt seek answers and justice for the many affected by Hildebrandt's controversial methods.
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"How did two individuals seemingly manage to pull the wool over so many eyes, manipulating systems and minds to their advantage?"
 
 In a recent episode of the podcast "Hidden Killers," host Tony Brueski delves into the unsettling tales of Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrant. With Lori Hellis, an author and criminal defense lawyer, they shed light on the complexities surrounding these figures, who, under the veneer of respectability, allegedly perpetuated a web of deceit.
 
 For the uninitiated, on the surface, Franke, as Brueski observes, appeared to be nothing more than "a strict parent." However, scratch beneath the surface and a much more sinister portrait emerges. "She really tried to massage this image and portray herself in one way where what we're learning, if true, [is] quite a monster on the other side," Brueski remarked. This observation becomes even more chilling as we learn that even Franke's own sisters were reportedly unaware of her activities.
 
 What is particularly alarming in these narratives is the seeming pattern of isolation. Hildebrant, much like Franke, seems to have a propensity for pushing away those who raise concerns. Hellis draws a parallel with the Lori Vallow case, stating, "We saw it in the Lori Vallow case. I mean, she cut off her entire family on the Cox side of the family. She cut them all off because they questioned what she was doing." This behavioral trait – the isolation from family and friends – appears to be a recurring theme among individuals exhibiting narcissistic tendencies.
 
 As the conversation progressed, the connection to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS) emerged. Both Franke and Hildebrant had affiliations with the church, and what Hellis reveals next is indeed troubling.
 
 "Here's what I find very troubling about the Hildebrand and Frankie case," Hellis began. Jodi Hildebrand, notably a therapist with an MSW in social work, was reportedly on numerous church referral lists. This means that she was actively receiving clients from the church, with church leaders referring members to her for therapeutic sessions. The implications of such a dynamic become deeply problematic when the depth of Hildebrant's alleged actions is considered.
 
 In a revealing interview, Jodi Hildebrand's niece, Jessie, unveiled that she was subjected to Hildebrant's so-called therapeutic techniques. More alarming is that Jessie was tasked with handling the billing for Hildebrant's "therapy practice." What left Jessie deeply disturbed was the revelation that "about 80 percent of the billing was being paid for by the LDS church."
 
 The LDS Church, known for its compassionate endeavors, would fund counseling sessions for members in need. In this twisted tale, not only was the church unintentionally endorsing someone potentially causing harm, but it was also financially supporting it. As Brueski poignantly notes, while there's nothing inherently wrong with church-funded counseling, the misuse and abuse of such a system are "sickening."
 
 The Franke-Hildebrant narrative forces us to question the systems in place, their vulnerabilities, and the lengths to which individuals might go to exploit them. The intertwining of personal ambition, alleged malpractice, and institutional trust provides a cautionary tale about vigilance, accountability, and the ever-present danger of deception lurking beneath seemingly benign exteriors.
 
 "In a world where appearances can be manipulated, how do we ensure that those entrusted with power and influence remain true to their responsibilities?"

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Welcome to the "Week In Review," where we delve into the true stories behind this week's headlines. Your host, Tony Brueski, joins hands with a rotating roster of guests, sharing their insights and analysis on a collection of intriguing, perplexing, and often chilling stories that made the news.
    
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Welcome to the "Week In Review," where we delve into the true stories behind this week's headlines. Your host, Tony Brueski, joins hands with a rotating roster of guests, sharing their insights and analysis on a collection of intriguing, perplexing, and often chilling stories that made the news.
    
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Welcome to the "Week In Review," where we delve into the true stories behind this week's headlines. Your host, Tony Brueski, joins hands with a rotating roster of guests, sharing their insights and analysis on a collection of intriguing, perplexing, and often chilling stories that made the news.
    
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Welcome to the "Week In Review," where we delve into the true stories behind this week's headlines. Your host, Tony Brueski, joins hands with a rotating roster of guests, sharing their insights and analysis on a collection of intriguing, perplexing, and often chilling stories that made the news.
    
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In the ever-evolving realm of therapy and mental health, the importance of trust and credibility is paramount. But for Jodi Hildebrandt, a notable therapist with a previously established reputation, a series of alarming testimonials threaten to dismantle her professional standing. A recent expose on the popular podcast "Murder in the Morning" showcased disturbing reviews from former clients of Hildebrandt's therapy programs, raising serious questions about the ethics and efficacy of her methods.
 
 Former client Dan's testimonial paints a troubling picture: "Jodi Hildabrandt's teachings cost me my marriage. She used shame as control," he revealed. He also accuses Hildebrandt of overbilling, citing instances where the therapist would charge for entire sessions even when plagued by connectivity issues. More concerning, Dan claims multiple breaches of client confidentiality, a fundamental tenet of therapy, alleging that Hildebrandt disclosed personal client information.
 
 However, it's not just individual sessions that have come under scrutiny. The organizations associated with Hildebrandt, ConneXions Classroom and Moms of Truth, were flagged by another reviewer for perpetuating "destructive division." This anonymous female reviewer conceded that while there were positive teachings, they were overshadowed by instances of undue shaming. She went on to liken the behavior of Hildebrandt and her colleague Ruby to a "cult-like mentality."
 
 Perhaps one of the most startling reviews came from a self-identified established therapist who trained under Jodi for a year. "I saw her tear apart families and destroy relationships," the therapist claimed, further stating a belief in Hildebrandt's malevolent intentions.
 
 The controversy extends to interference in family dynamics. Calvin alleges that Jodi manipulated his children against him on the testimony of their mother, with whom she allegedly had no permission to communicate. He claims Jodi's advice led his children to sever all forms of contact with him.
 
 Anna Marie and others, like Vincent and Dashi Stock, raise concerns over purported "brainwashing tactics" and slander. They all sound the alarm on the potential emotional and mental harm stemming from interactions with Hildebrandt and her associated entities.
 
 Interestingly, Hildebrandt's alleged attempts to control her public image seem to spill over to online platforms. Christopher Edmondson highlights her practice of suppressing dissenting voices on her social media channels, describing a pattern of blocking or removing comments that challenge her teachings.

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In a recent episode of the podcast "Hidden Killers" with Tony Brueski, the shocking practices of former counselor Jodi Hildebrandt were brought to the limelight. Just how influential were Hildebrandt's methods in the destruction of countless marriages?
 
 Before her arrest, Jodi Hildebrandt was a practicing therapist known for her unique and highly controversial counseling methods. As described by the podcast hosts, many of her former clients now claim that her techniques and teachings either directly caused or played a significant role in their divorces. Hildebrandt was known to separate spouses, pathologize patients' behaviors using non-DSM-5 recognized addictions, and encouraged individuals to isolate from those not adhering to her teachings.
 
 Psychologist John Delatorre, a guest on the podcast, expressed his concerns. "It sounds like she was never on a path to begin with," Delatorre said, suggesting that Hildebrandt might be fitting into the stereotype of the "wounded healer" – individuals who join the mental health field to address their traumas but instead inflict harm due to unresolved personal issues.
 
 Tony Brueski brought to attention that despite brief suspension in 2012, Hildebrandt regained her license shortly afterward and continued her practices. The Mormon church even stopped recommending her due to her disclosing sensitive HIPAA information. The question of how Hildebrandt managed to evade significant consequences for such a long time is perplexing.
 
 Delatorre explained that every licensed provider has a licensing board aimed at protecting the general public. He highlighted, “The licensing board isn't going to know what's going on unless you tell them." The issue might stem from the hesitation of clients or institutions to raise a complaint against their therapists. And while Hildebrandt might appear as an outlier, Delatorre was quick to note she's not unique. Many counselors face charges by their licensing boards for various unethical practices.
 
 Addressing the question of how much freedom therapists have in choosing their counseling methods, Delatorre said, “Some individuals have integrated, right? So they take pieces of all different kinds of theories and mold it into one." He went on to discuss the danger of therapists becoming too rigid in their ideologies, leading them to dismiss alternative viewpoints and therapies. This isolation can cause them to become even more entrenched in their beliefs.
 
 From Brueski's description, it appears Hildebrandt took an extreme stance, with some former clients even suggesting she had a vendetta against men. Delatorre responded, “She's the only one that knows if she had an agenda… or if this was just a secondary aspect of being so regimented in her own ideals.”
 
 The narrative of Jodi Hildebrandt's counseling methods, as laid out in the podcast, paints a worrying picture of unchecked practices that might have harmed more than they helped. It serves as a grim reminder of the significant role and responsibility that mental health professionals hold in their clients' lives.
 
 As the episode concluded, one question lingered: How many more "Jodi Hildebrandts" are out there, and what safeguards are in place to prevent further harm?
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"How often do people actually file complaints against their therapists, and how often should they?" This pressing question was tackled head-on in a recent episode of "Hidden Killers," with host Tony Brueski and guest psychotherapist and author, Shavaun Scott. Their discussion zeroed in on the intricacies of the mental health profession and provided deep insights into the dilemmas faced by patients.
 
 Many therapy seekers presume that an occasional mismatch with a therapist is just a matter of differing perspectives, often concluding, "We just don't see eye to eye." Yet, Shavaun Scott raises a flag, stating, "I don't think as many people complain and make a formal complaint as they probably should." While there's a distinction between being uncomfortable with feedback and flagging inappropriate advice, the conversation circled the need for an empowered stance.
 
 Discussing the potential pitfalls, Shavaun touched on the gray areas. “There are times when a therapist may be giving someone feedback, and the person just doesn't want to hear it," she elaborated. However, she also pointed out the detrimental side of the spectrum, where therapists provide bizarre suggestions or those that might exacerbate a patient's issues, particularly in couples or parenting counseling.
 
 The ability to file complaints online has simplified the process. Ideally, a legitimate complaint would prompt the licensing board to ask the therapist in question to justify their methods. But can this process be easily circumvented? Taking the case of Jodi Hildebrandt as an example, Brueski questioned the ease with which someone could merely fabricate an acceptable explanation. Shavaun admitted, “She certainly could lie,” but highlighted instances in California where evidentiary hearings forced clinicians to defend their practices in person.
 
 But what happens when therapists themselves are battling with their own mental health issues? Can personal experiences overshadow professional recommendations? There's a vast difference between therapists with genuinely altruistic intentions and those who might be termed "dangerous quacks." Shavaun acknowledges this continuum, noting the rigorous process involved in becoming a licensed mental health clinician. Yet, she admits, “you do get some weird ones in there,” drawing parallels with varying expertise levels in any profession, from medicine to hairdressing.
 
 Stressing the importance of due diligence, Shavaun advises potential clients to be diligent consumers, especially when dealing with sensitive areas like marriage or parent-child relationship counseling. "Do interviews before you choose a professional," she suggests. A 15 to 30-minute preliminary phone call can offer significant insights into a therapist's approach and expertise. She adds, "Talk to at least three, and don’t make a choice until you’ve talked with someone that you feel really is insightful.”
 
 The conversation took a sharp turn when Brueski mentioned how some professionals, like Jodi Hildebrandt, gained business through endorsements from religious bodies or other authority figures. An implicit trust often accompanies such recommendations, but the episode underscores the need for personal agency and informed decisions.
 Concluding our deep dive into this provocative podcast episode, one can't help but wonder, "In our quest for healing and understanding, how do we ensure we're placing our trust in the right hands?"
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Does a therapist's background truly reflect the quality of the service they provide? This question has taken center stage after a recent discussion on the "Hidden Killers" podcast where Tony Brueski and former FBI Special Agent, Jennifer Coffindaffer, scrutinized the credentials and malpractice allegations against Jodi Hildebrandt.
 
 In the eye of a storm are allegations against Hildebrandt regarding her questionable practices. “We've, in the last week, learned more about Jodi Hildebrandt's practice... Lots of men specifically claiming abuse,” Brueski opened the discussion. As Coffindaffer delved into her background, it was revealed that Hildebrandt might not have had the qualifications she professed. “She just in a nutshell, was not qualified to even be giving this sort of counseling. No,” Brueski remarked, to which Coffindaffer added, "From my understanding, her background... was really working in a drug rehab type facility."
 
 One of the most alarming aspects to emerge was the scale of Hildebrandt's influence. Despite her apparently insufficient background, “people, millions, 2 million, right? Were subscribing to listen to advice,” Coffindaffer said. The situation begs the question of why so many sought guidance from someone whose credentials might not stand up to scrutiny. It's a stark reminder of the importance of due diligence, especially when it concerns one's mental health.
 
 While the focus was predominantly on Hildebrandt, Brueski also pointed out another individual named Ruby, who, like Hildebrandt, had "no PhDs or anything in counseling." Yet both had an alarming level of influence, further emphasizing the risks associated with blind trust.
 
 A pressing concern is the lasting damage caused by Hildebrandt's alleged malpractice. As Brueski aptly stated, “That's what I'm wondering about is the damage that has been done.” Given the sensitive nature of therapy and the intimate trust patients place in their therapists, such malpractice allegations are particularly concerning.
 
 The potential for legal action was another focal point of their conversation. Despite the apparent harm caused by Hildebrandt's practices, the feasibility of victims seeking justice remains unclear. "I think those are difficult cases to prove and quite costly," commented Coffindaffer, hinting at the challenges victims might face in court.
 
 However, beyond the legal intricacies and the potential for redress, a more pressing concern looms: the long-term consequences of such alleged malpractice. “We're not talking murder here... And it makes me wonder, you know, how long will these people really go away if they are convicted?” Brueski inquired. Coffindaffer responded, “I don't think they're going to be gone long.” The high profile nature of the case might not necessarily lead to stricter sentences.
 
 In wrapping up their discussion, Brueski and Coffindaffer pondered the future of such individuals. Given their influence and the dedication of their following, a return to the public eye wouldn't be surprising. Coffindaffer eerily forecasted, "I can hear the podcast right now... I think that she absolutely will use this situation in the future to have another podcast."
 
 What's clear is that the aftermath of these allegations will continue to unfold, with countless individuals left grappling with the repercussions. As we reflect on the information revealed and anticipate the next developments, we're compelled to ask: How much should trust weigh in the realms of public influence and therapy, and where should we draw the line?
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In the latest episode of the podcast "Hidden Killers", host Tony Brueski sat down with renowned Defense Attorney Bob Motta, also known for his contributions to the podcast "Defense Diaries". The two delved deep into the recent controversies surrounding therapist Jodi Hildebrandt and Ruby Franke. The revelations, which have stunned many, pertain to Hildebrandt’s questionable approach to counseling and allegations of potential harm caused to patients.
 
 "Numerous people have claimed that they sought help from Jodi Hildebrandt, only to face further destruction of their marriages and relationships," shared Tony, setting the backdrop. Indeed, some of these claims also hint at a possible bias of Hildebrandt against men.
 
 Motta was prompt to weigh in: "When they're given bad advice that they know their patients are going to more likely than not incorporate into their own lives, I think there could be some liability there." He elaborated that there could be multiple avenues of legal action, including claims for intentional infliction of emotional distress or civil fraud. "The question is, can you make the case?" he pondered.
 
 However, the key concern, as both the host and Motta discussed, was the feasibility of such suits. While there seems to be potential for victims to file a case against Hildebrandt, the practicality of recovering damages remains uncertain, given the financial standing of the accused. Motta noted that while anyone can sue, assessing the depth of pockets is often the first step for a plaintiff's counsel. Yet, there's no doubt that the implications are serious, especially considering the emotional vulnerability of patients seeking counseling.
 
 Then came the discussion of Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt’s charges. "Child abuse is a very serious thing," Tony highlighted, noting the frequency with which such cases appear before courts and sometimes the shockingly lenient punishments that follow. Motta, being careful not to preempt the court’s judgment, did indicate the gravity of the situation. "It's serious charges. The things that they have in their favor are the fact that they probably don't have any criminal background," he said. This could possibly influence the final decision, especially considering that every case has its nuances.
 
 Motta further added perspective on how certain parenting choices might or might not fall within the statute's definition of abuse, citing the example of a child being responsible for making her own sandwich. "I don’t know that's child abuse. Like, I would never personally do that with my kid," he said. This draws attention to the thin line between parenting styles and potential harm to a child.
 
 In summary, while the podcast episode did not conclude on a specific note about the potential outcomes for Franke and Hildebrandt, it did bring up important questions surrounding accountability in professional roles, especially in sensitive areas like counseling. As with any high-profile case, the repercussions are multifaceted, and the outcomes can set precedents for similar cases in the future.
 
 Given the complexity and sensitivity of such issues, one can’t help but ponder: How does society strike a balance between trust in professionals and accountability for potential harm?
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The trust placed in a therapist is significant. People open up about their most personal and deep-seated issues, hoping to find solutions and heal. But what happens when that trust is broken and, worse, when the guidance provided seems to intentionally destroy relationships? This question has been echoing throughout the latest episodes of the "Hidden Killers" podcast.

The spotlight has been thrust upon Jodi Hildebrandt, a therapist recently accused of questionable practices that appear to have had a detrimental effect on couples who consulted her. As shared by podcast host Tony Brueski, "...absolutely miserably her counseling and marriage counseling failed them, oftentimes seeming like she was going out of her way to break the couples up."

Moreover, it appears that there may be an underlying bias, as Brueski continued, "...seemingly she had quite a vendetta against males." Such allegations, if proven, could mean a breach of the ethical responsibility a therapist owes to their clients.
The discussion escalated when legal implications came to the forefront. Former Federal prosecutor Neama Rahmani weighed in on the potential fallout.

Speaking of potential lawsuits for emotional distress or professional malpractice, Rahmani explained, "It's possible, you know some sort of professional liability or malpractice claim." However, the practicalities of such actions are more complicated.
There's a grave concern about Hildebrandt's diagnostic methods, as Brueski noted, "She is diagnosing folks with things that really aren't even in the DSM book." Misdiagnosis could indeed lead to significant harm to patients. Drawing parallels with another case, the Kouri Richins situation, Rahmani outlined the practicality of potential lawsuits. Essentially, pursuing legal action might be viable, but the outcome in terms of monetary recovery remains uncertain. "The chances of you collecting on this might be slim to none," Rahmani pointed out, emphasizing that even if a judgment is secured, enforcing it is another challenge altogether.

Yet the controversy around Hildebrandt does not end with her therapy methods. More serious charges have emerged, including child abuse. The public's response to such allegations is unpredictable. Rahmani, with his experience in representing and suing celebrities, provided a perspective that might be hard for many to digest. He said, "I've seen it where people...refuse to believe that their favorite celebrity can do any wrong despite the evidence." This is a stark reminder that public perception can often overshadow facts and testimonies.

Concluding their discussion, both Brueski and Rahmani seemed to share a mutual concern. Despite the grave charges and evidence, there might still be a group of loyal followers who could continue to champion Hildebrandt and her co-accused.

In the world of social media and digital influence, where belief systems can spread like wildfire, the consequences of misplaced trust are more magnified than ever. The conversation on "Hidden Killers" underlines the need for due diligence and the importance of upholding ethical standards, especially in professions that have a direct impact on people's lives.

But the unsettling question remains: What if, despite all the evidence and legal outcomes, such individuals return to public life and continue to influence unsuspecting followers?
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The line between cultic behavior and genuine therapeutic practices seems to blur when you dive deep into the controversial methods of Jodi Hildebrandt. A recent episode of "Hidden Killers" featuring Tony Brueski and former FBI Special Agent Robin Dreeke raises the question: When does unchecked power and influence steer away from genuine care and into the dangerous realm of manipulation?
 
 Jodi Hildebrandt, before her arrest, served as a licensed counselor. Disturbingly, she was recommended by the Mormon Church for her counseling services up until 2012. The church's withdrawal of endorsement came on the heels of Hildebrandt violating HIPAA rules, unveiling confidential information about a patient.
 
 Emerging stories from former clients reveal a troubling pattern in Hildebrandt's practice. Accusations range from methodically separating spouses, pathologizing normal behavior as addiction, and persuading patients to distance themselves from anyone who opposed her advice.
 
 Dreeke made a stark observation: "Welcome to another world of someone trying to form a cult." He further elaborated, pointing out classic cult behaviors manifested in Hildebrandt's methods – controlling information, isolating individuals, and exploiting them. And most disturbingly, Dreeke notes how she seemed to have created her own unique labels for addictions, ones not recognized in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM).
 
 A troubling revelation Brueski emphasized was how many of these cases, including Hildebrandt's, had ties to the Church of Latter-Day Saints (LDS). It's essential to note that Dreeke clarified his stance, saying, "Religion has been, it doesn’t matter what religion, it's always been the backbone of many cults that have done harm." He expressed concern over the disproportionate number of cases arising from current or former LDS members.
 
 However, both hosts recognized the global contributions of the LDS church, praising its teachings of love, compassion, and non-discrimination. Dreeke offered a theory on why certain individuals may exploit such teachings, "What cults do is to suck you in as they love bomb you." This 'love bombing' technique, he elaborated, is about overwhelming a person with attention and affection. It's a potent strategy that often targets those feeling isolated or disenfranchised in their lives.
 
 Such tactics lead to the significant question posed during their discussion: Do people who start cults even recognize they're doing so? Many, including Hildebrandt, may have deep convictions, but without proper checks and balances, these beliefs can spiral into something far more sinister, especially if spearheaded by a charismatic leader.
 
 Dreeke pointed out that the term 'cult' has garnered a negative connotation over the years, yet many benign groups may have started in similar manners – with a small group of followers led by a charismatic leader. However, the distinction between a harmless group and a cult lies in the tactics employed: isolation, control of information, and harm (physical, psychological, or shaming).
 
 The episode shed light on a grim reality: cult-like groups might not always be large, visible entities. They might be lurking in everyday settings, masked under the guise of therapy sessions or small group gatherings.
 
 Thus, as the hosts of "Hidden Killers" continue their explorations into the shadowy corners of society, the ending question lingers: How many more undetected cults might be silently operating in plain sight?

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Ruby Franke's fall from grace sent shockwaves through the millions who faithfully followed her family-centric "8 Passengers" YouTube channel. The discovery of one of her six children, emaciated, covered in sores, and bound with duct tape, in Santa Clara, Utah, raised alarm bells and ended her career as a YouTube influencer.
 
Franke had always portrayed a picture-perfect life. "The Mormon mom appeared as if she led a loving, nurturing family life with a husband and a big brood of children," said a longtime viewer. However, that façade crumbled when alarming details emerged about her association with the controversial therapist, Jodi Hildebrandt, 54.
 
 According to sources close to Franke, her demeanor began to shift after she started her association with Hildebrandt. A friend of Franke for over two decades revealed to Page Six, "Ruby’s values took a drastic turn. Suddenly, she was telling lies and becoming increasingly distant, cutting off her family with seemingly no explanation."
 
 Jodi Hildebrandt was well-known in Santa Clara as a licensed therapist through her organization, ConneXions. This institution pitched itself as an online educational platform designed to help individuals navigate relationship challenges, anxiety, and more. However, beneath this respectable exterior, darker currents flowed. Hildebrandt and Franke’s close relationship led to rampant speculation, with some even drawing parallels to the iconic "Thelma & Louise."
 
 As the duo ventured on numerous trips together, rumors started to swirl about the nature of their relationship. Randy S. Kester, who represented Franke's husband Kevin, stated that while there were murmurs, "I don’t have any concrete evidence of a romantic relationship, other than some video content that showed them holding hands."
 
 Franke's husband Kevin, who was previously a professor at Brigham Young University, echoed these sentiments. He believed that his wife’s association with Hildebrandt significantly impacted their marital relationship. Franke became more distant, frequently leaving Kevin to care for their children while she traveled on business with Hildebrandt. Kester reported that "Kevin was supportive, hoping that these trips were part of Ruby's self-development journey."
 
 Julie Deru, one of Franke’s sisters, expressed her discomfort with Hildebrandt’s teachings. "We were concerned about the messages Ruby started to propagate at family gatherings. They felt alien and contrary to what we knew."
 
 Indeed, as time went on, Franke’s content began shifting. Once filled with wholesome family moments, her channels were gradually dominated by Hildebrandt, with topics such as "tactics of deception," "establishing a truth declaration," and discourses against "lust."
 
 The crux of the concerns revolved around ConneXions' dubious counseling practices. Kevin Franke himself was roped into a men's group supported by Hildebrandt. For over a year, he was subjected to what many describe as emotional manipulation, being labeled "greedy," "narcissistic," and "selfish." These sessions were believed to be the driving force behind Kevin’s decision to move out, a move purportedly influenced by Hildebrandt.
 
 However, perhaps the most shocking revelation came from Jessi Hildebrandt, Jodi's niece. In a heart-wrenching interview, she detailed her traumatic experiences while in Jodi's care as a teenager. Her stories of being tied up, blindfolded, and isolated for hours echoed the harrowing ordeal faced by Franke's child. Jessi declared, "Jodi firmly believes that shame should be punished severely."
 
 Pam Bodtcher, described as "Jodi's surveillance," was another figure deeply involved in ConneXions. Jessi hinted at her complicit role, painting a picture of an intricate web of manipulation and control.
 
 The dark saga culminated in August when the police were called to check on one of Franke's children. The subsequent investigation unveiled disturbing truths about what had transpired behind closed doors.
 
 As the community grapples with this harrowing revelation, many believe that Hildebrandt was the mastermind. Franke's longtime friend summed it up: "While Ruby is not innocent, I believe there's hope for her to be rehabilitated. Jodi, however, is a different story."
 
 This tale serves as a sobering reminder of the dangers lurking behind seemingly perfect facades and the importance of discernment in the world of online influence.

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Is it possible that in seeking help, one could inadvertently be led into a cult-like grip? A recent episode of the podcast "Hidden Killers" with host Tony Brueski and psychotherapist Shavaun Scott delves deep into such a case surrounding Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt. The revelations that emerge from their discussion underscore the crucial need for vigilance in the therapeutic community.
 
 According to the dialogue, it appears Hildebrandt might have been practicing what some referred to as a cult-like form of therapy. The burning question: "Does anybody realize they're starting a cult when they're starting a cult?" is one that Shavaun Scott tackled head-on. "I do think it's the person... that is the focus or the genesis of something like that... a person who always is seeking power," Scott explains, identifying profound narcissism and sociopathic tendencies as key indicators.
 
 Hildebrandt, whose practices are under scrutiny, reportedly made untraditional and potentially damaging diagnoses. Tony Brueski recounted how couples who approached her for marriage counseling got something entirely different. "A lot of separating people, a lot of diagnosing men with porn addictions when there wasn't one," he said, emphasizing the lack of recognition of such a diagnosis in the DSM 5, a standard classification of mental disorders.
 
 Scott expressed her dismay at the revelation. "That is really what makes this a cult because she was making up her belief system as she went," Scott said. Her concern is palpable, as she mentions the "toxic craziness" that many might have been exposed to under Hildebrandt’s guidance. The horrifying truth, according to Scott, is the legitimacy that came with Hildebrandt's clinical license, which led people to trust her expertise, only to be led astray.
 
 A pressing concern arises: how did Hildebrandt's practices go unnoticed for so long? Scott elaborates on the licensing procedures, which differ from state to state. "Usually, once a person is licensed, there's probably not a lot, if any oversight going on, unless there are complaints," she detailed. The primary role of licensing boards is to protect consumers, and they are obligated to investigate any complaints about licensed professionals rigorously. In Hildebrandt’s case, however, Scott questions the oversight and wonders whether the investigations were as thorough as they ought to have been.
 
 Given the gravity of the charges against Hildebrandt and the harm caused to countless individuals seeking help, the need for more rigorous checks and greater transparency becomes clear. Trust is a foundational pillar in the therapeutic relationship. It's crucial for patients to know that when they reach out for assistance, they are in safe hands, guided by genuine expertise.
 
 As the story unfolds and more people come forward with their experiences, there is hope for change. Scott passionately articulates this hope: "Lessons learned by the licensing board here." Yet, one can't help but wonder how many have been deeply affected by the dubious practices, and what it will take to ensure such situations are detected and addressed promptly in the future.
 
 In a world where the lines between genuine care and manipulation can sometimes blur, how do we ensure that those seeking help aren't led astray?
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Kevin Franke faced an agonizing revelation this past August. He found his wife, Ruby Franke, and their family therapist, Jodi Hildebrandt, detained, with his two youngest children in a healthcare facility for critical malnourishment treatments.
 
 In the year leading up to this grim discovery, Kevin had only received infrequent communication from his now-estranged wife. This drastic shift in family dynamics traces back to the involvement of marriage counselor, Jodi Hildebrandt, in their lives. In a candid conversation with PEOPLE, Kevin's attorney, Randy Kester, expressed, “Kevin was taken aback. The allegations against Ruby and Jodi left him stunned. It dawned upon him the magnitude of deception he had been subjected to."
 
 The couple, who once reveled in the limelight due to their "8 Passengers vlog" on YouTube, had amassed a dedicated following of approximately 2.5 million subscribers. Their content chiefly revolved around the daily adventures and life lessons of their six children. However, even this digital haven suffered a setback when the couple decided to part ways, a year before Ruby's dramatic arrest.
 
 Eyewitness accounts and police allegations shed light on the distressing environment the Franke children were exposed to, particularly in Kevin’s absence. With Ruby and the two youngest residing at Jodi's residence, there are serious accusations concerning the treatment of 12-year-old Russell Franke. Claims have emerged about him being physically restrained with ropes, and even more distressingly, of cayenne pepper and honey being deliberately applied to his injuries by Ruby and Jodi.
 
 Diving deeper into Jodi Hildebrandt’s background reveals a checkered professional history. She commenced her association with the Frankes in 2021. Prominently specializing in sex addiction, Jodi faced reprimands from state authorities back in 2012, owing to an improper relationship with a client. That very year, following her personal battles of a divorce and strained ties with her children, Jodi launched 'ConneXions'. Her venture, as advertised on her website, pledges to "empower individuals to thrive in their relationships," with an emphasis on liberating individuals from "distortions" to embrace "Truth, connection, and freedom."
 
 This counselor-client relationship between the Frankes and Jodi intensified, culminating in a pivotal trip involving Ruby, Kevin, and another therapist. Post this journey, Ruby's perspective on her marriage had radically shifted. Recollecting this phase, Kester quoted Ruby's exact words to Kevin: "Your attitude is infesting the family." She firmly believed that their only recourse was separation. Kevin, despite these developments, continued attending several sessions a week with Jodi. In a turn of events, when their son Chad decided to reside with Kevin, Jodi intervened, advising separation. According to Kester, Jodi’s influence permeated so deeply that Kevin became increasingly isolated, with Ruby being granted limited access to contact him.
 
 However, red flags had been raised about the family earlier. In June 2020, social workers began probing into the Franke family dynamics, spurred by unsettling content on their YouTube channel. This included incidents like Ruby openly denying lunch to 6-year-old Eve and then 15-year-old Chad confessing to sleeping on a beanbag for a staggering seven months following a harmless prank on his sibling. Yet, these inquiries hit a dead-end as Utah's Division of Child and Family Services couldn't validate the abuse claims.
 
 Recent times saw Ruby frequently shuttle between her residence in Springville and Jodi's home in Ivins, Utah. During one of these transitions, they were apprehended, following consistent efforts by an alert neighbor and the couple’s estranged daughter, Shari, 20, to alert authorities. Voicing his concerns, the neighbor stated, “Child protective services conveyed that their hands were tied until a calamity occurred."
 
 Currently, both Ruby and Jodi are incarcerated at Washington County Purgatory Correctional Facility, awaiting legal proceedings, while their counseling licenses remain suspended. Kevin, although interrogated, has not faced any charges. However, the debate on his role rages on. A concerned neighbor remarked, "Is Kevin culpable? Absolutely. His decision to vacate the home was critical."
 
 In a landscape rife with digital celebrities, this distressing tale underscores the reality that not all that glitters online is gold. The Franke family's unraveling story serves as a reminder to always look beyond the screen.

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Welcome to the "Week In Review," where we delve into the true stories behind this week's headlines. Your host, Tony Brueski, joins hands with a rotating roster of guests, sharing their insights and analysis on a collection of intriguing, perplexing, and often chilling stories that made the news.
    
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Welcome to the "Week In Review," where we delve into the true stories behind this week's headlines. Your host, Tony Brueski, joins hands with a rotating roster of guests, sharing their insights and analysis on a collection of intriguing, perplexing, and often chilling stories that made the news.
    
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Welcome to the "Week In Review," where we delve into the true stories behind this week's headlines. Your host, Tony Brueski, joins hands with a rotating roster of guests, sharing their insights and analysis on a collection of intriguing, perplexing, and often chilling stories that made the news.
    
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Welcome to the "Week In Review," where we delve into the true stories behind this week's headlines. Your host, Tony Brueski, joins hands with a rotating roster of guests, sharing their insights and analysis on a collection of intriguing, perplexing, and often chilling stories that made the news.
    
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The famed YouTube family known as "8 Passengers", led by Ruby and Kevin Franke, are facing allegations of child abuse, leading to a dramatic unfolding of events that have left their 2.5 million subscribers and the world in shock.
 
 Ruby and Kevin Franke built their online reputation by sharing their lives with their six children in Utah, giving a candid glimpse into their strict parenting style. However, the facade began to crack in May 2020, when their son Chad revealed in a video that as a consequence of a prank on his younger brother, Russell, he had been relegated to sleep on a beanbag for seven months. This revelation led to a significant backlash against the couple.
 
 Many of their YouTube subscribers were horrified. To express their concerns over what they perceived as mistreatment of the Franke children, a petition was initiated. Garnering 17,000 signatures, the petition pushed for a Child Protective Services (CPS) investigation into the allegations of maltreatment. The Franke family was scrutinized in June 2020, when Ruby and her daughter Eve were visited by social workers. Despite the public outcry, the case was closed without the allegations being substantiated.
 
 Nevertheless, the situation intensified, as irate followers sent angry text messages, spam emails, and even made late-night threats. The incident that really pushed things to a boiling point was when an unidentified individual with a concealed face showed up at their doorstep with a sinister message. Concerned for their family's safety, Kevin sought the help of David Corrington, a private investigator and a former special agent with the U.S. Department of Homeland Security.
 
 In a recent PEOPLE magazine issue, Corrington stated, "I think what really threw it over the edge was this person showing up in the middle of the night ringing the doorbell. That starts getting a little more personal and scary with the children being in the house." Despite Corrington's belief that several individuals were targeting the family, frustrations grew as they felt local law enforcement was not doing enough.
 
 Allegations and concerns surrounding the Franke children's well-being did not dissipate. Over the subsequent months, calls to both the police and CPS poured in, alleging potential mistreatment of the children. The family's situation took a severe turn when their youngest son, Russell, was found with physical signs of maltreatment. Escaping from family therapist Jodi Hildebrandt's home in Ivins, Utah, where he was staying with his mother and sister, Eve, Russell reached out for help.
 
 With grave injuries, malnourishment, and tales of abuse, Russell's revelations led to an immediate response from the Santa Clara-Ivins Police Department. As a result, both Ruby and Jodi were arrested on charges of aggravated felony child abuse. Held at the Washington County Purgatory Correctional Facility, both await their plea. Meanwhile, Kevin Franke, who had left the family home a year earlier, remains uncharged.
 
 Corrington voiced his concerns over the systemic failings, stating, "It's unfortunate that it takes some of these extreme situations for the government to intervene. You certainly have to ask the question, why did this fall through the cracks in our system?"
 
 As the case unfolds, many are left questioning how such a well-known family, with millions of viewers, could be at the center of such an alarming scandal. For many, Shari, the couple's estranged eldest daughter, summed up the collective feeling with a simple Instagram Story showing officers outside their family home with the caption: "Finally."
 
 This scandal serves as a crucial reminder of the potential discrepancies between the polished facade of online personalities and the realities of their offline lives. In the digital age, where influencers and vloggers dominate social spaces, the need for discernment and vigilance becomes even more paramount.
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How does a seemingly "strict" parent evolve into someone capable of severe child abuse?
 In a recent episode of the "Hidden Killers" podcast, Tony Brueski sat down with Robin Dreeke, retired FBI Special Agent and Chief of the Counterintelligence Behavioral Analysis Program, to dissect a troubling and complex situation. The case at hand revolves around a mother, referred to as Ruby, whose strict and unreasonable parenting showcased on her YouTube channel spiraled into allegations of physical and mental abuse. The most jarring incident was the escape of her emaciated son, who was discovered duct-taped.
 
 Tony questioned, "How does one go from being a strict parent… to literally your son escaping a home emaciated and duct taped?" Dreeke likened the situation to the proverbial "lobster in the pot," a slow boil that gradually intensifies until it's too late.
 
 It appears Ruby was not acting alone. A certain "Jodi" seemed to have a manipulative grip on Ruby, directing her actions and isolating her from loved ones who might intervene. Dreeke commented on the dangers of such isolation, “All the loving critics, like her husband, that could have said, ‘Hey, what the hell are you doing?’ Jodi got rid of him.”
 
 Drawing parallels to Robert Greene’s "Laws of Human Nature", Dreeke pointed out that individuals often surround themselves with enablers who validate their beliefs. As Ruby's actions were continually reaffirmed by her YouTube following and by Jodi, her behavior became increasingly severe. The conversation even touched upon historical contexts, highlighting how individuals like Hitler rose to power by manipulating the masses – a demonstration of how powerful and influential a single individual's hold can be on people, leading them to commit or overlook heinous acts.
 
 While Dreeke was careful not to directly compare Jodi to Hitler, he emphasized the psychological tactics at play. "It's the levers of influence that we're talking about," he stated.
 
 Another element the duo dissected was the strange behavior of Ruby's husband, Kevin. Amid the controversy, Kevin had an altercation with his elder daughter, Sherry, accusing her of burglary after she collected some of her belongings from their family home. While she stated relief over her mother’s arrest, Kevin seemed resistant, even hostile. Tony expressed bewilderment over Kevin's decision-making, implying that there's a lot more beneath the surface that hasn't come to light.
 
 Despite the deep analysis, the situation remains an enigma, presenting more questions than answers. The episode serves as a chilling reminder of the extent to which individuals can be manipulated, the dangers of unchecked power, and the complexities of human psychology.
 
 Is society susceptible to the influence of manipulative figures in daily life, and if so, how can we recognize and counteract these influences before they cause irreversible harm?
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Have you ever wondered how seemingly ordinary individuals can be inexplicably drawn into the magnetic pull of a charismatic leader? The recent episode of "Hidden Killers," hosted by Tony Brueski, delves deep into this very question as he converses with retired FBI Special Agent, Robin Dreeke, about the puzzling dynamics surrounding Ruby Franke, Jodi Hildebrandt, and notably, Kevin Franke, Ruby’s husband.
 
 The story paints a perplexing picture. At its heart is Ruby Franke, a popular YouTuber with a significant following, and Jodi Hildebrandt, a person who, as Dreeke suggests, seemed to have been "a cult leader looking for a cult." Ruby, with her sizeable audience but lacking the assertive charisma of a leader, appears to have made the perfect target for Hildebrandt. Brueski muses, “And Ruby just kind of got sucked in there. Or maybe she had a much larger role in that.”
 
 However, the situation becomes all the more bewildering when considering Kevin Franke, Ruby's husband. From an outsider's perspective, his position seems sympathetic: a husband witnessing a charismatic figure taking control of his wife's thoughts, feelings, and actions. Dreeke elaborates on this, revealing, “She [Jodi] got Kevin out of the picture by saying, you got to get separated. It's really unhealthy...to take total control of the access that Kevin had to this family.”
 
 In a twist, Brueski points out an interesting observation: Jodi Hildebrandt isn't overwhelmingly charismatic, unlike famed motivational figures such as Tony Robbins. Yet, she had an uncanny ability to manipulate and control. “She's been extremely negative, very much about separating families and separating people. What is it that drew people to someone like Jodi Hildebrandt?”
 
 Dreeke postulates that Hildebrandt's influence may not have hinged on innate charisma but rather on the "lever of influence" she wielded by using her assumed titles and the church's endorsement. According to him, Jodi's apparent authority, combined with Ruby's popularity, was a potent mix: "Ruby's the one that had the charismatic side of her...When you got Jodi, she used a lever of influence of authority." In essence, Jodi's assumed credibility combined with the trust Ruby's followers had in her created a dynamic that was hard for anyone, even Kevin, to counteract.
 
 These recent revelations raise alarming questions about the ease with which individuals can fall prey to manipulative personalities, especially when these manipulators are armed with perceived authority or endorsements. Dreeke laments on the detrimental effects of such influence, commenting on the misdiagnoses and questionable advice Jodi offered. As he reflects on the situation, Dreeke remains speculative, “I’m making it a narrative, you know, a fictional narrative maybe. But when you look at the data points that we're seeing and you look at levers of influence and you put it all together...what a mess.”
 
 Indeed, the tale of Kevin Franke, his wife Ruby, and the mysterious Jodi Hildebrandt serves as a cautionary tale of the hidden dangers lurking in our modern, interconnected world, where influence can easily be wielded, and lives can swiftly be upended.
 
 However, as we wrap up this recounting, a lingering question remains: In an age of digital connectivity and endless sources of information, how can one truly discern genuine authority from dangerous manipulation?
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Is there a line between therapeutic practices and outright torture? Recent revelations about therapist Jodie Hildebrandt suggest that sometimes, that line can be terrifyingly blurred.
 
 In a recent episode of the podcast "Hidden Killers," host Tony Brueski and former FBI Special Agent Jennifer Coffindaffer delved deep into the shocking allegations surrounding Jodie Hildebrandt, a therapist embroiled in what's now being termed the "mommy blogger scandal."
 Jesse Hildebrandt, Jodi's niece, made a startling revelation on Nightline, recounting traumatic experiences from her past. She claimed that Jodie would lock her in a room, forcing her to write out her sins. Even more disturbingly, Jesse alleged that she was made to sleep outside in the snow and was subjected to being duct-taped, preventing her from speaking to anyone.
 
 Brueski posed a critical question: "Did this extreme behavior start to escalate when [Jodi] and Ruby [another individual connected to the scandal] hooked up together? Or has this been an ongoing torture therapy practice that she's been running forever?" Coffindaffer responded with a chilling certainty, "I was not surprised... It doesn't make any sense that such extreme torture would just have a sudden onset."
 
 The conversation took a turn towards the normalization of such behavior, especially when it's practiced within a close-knit community. Coffindaffer explained, "I think it becomes a situation where all the parents that are involved sort of justify it to one another and reinforce this behavior amongst one another." The fact that Jodi Hildebrandt had amassed a following of 2 million people further solidified her methods in her mind, making her feel justified in her actions.
 
 A significant point of discussion was Hildebrandt's connection with the LDS church. The church had, for a time, recommended Jodi as one of their top therapists. Brueski questioned whether this religious affiliation provided a cover for Hildebrandt, allowing her to continue her questionable practices under the guise of religious beliefs. Coffindaffer didn't mince words, stating, "There is no doubt that the LDS connection has to be considered, at least in terms of how this was able to continue and to go on."
 
 The conversation highlighted a concerning trend: religious organizations sometimes becoming a haven for those wishing to perpetrate harmful actions, especially towards children. Coffindaffer, drawing from her experiences in Utah, pointed out that the majority of the community there follows LDS teachings. This includes law enforcement, court officials, and prosecutors. Such a homogeneous environment can sometimes make it challenging to bring to light and address extreme behaviors that cross the line.
 
 In closing, Coffindaffer emphasized, "Not all LDS are that extreme, but some are." It's a reminder that while many may follow a faith or belief system, it's the extreme interpretations and actions of a few that can cast a shadow over the many.
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How can an individual maintain such a hold over others that even basic human rights are denied?
 In a recent episode of the "Hidden Killers" podcast, host Tony Brueski conversed with psychotherapist and author Shavaun Scott about the troubling revelations surrounding Jodi Hildebrandt's interactions with Ruby Franke, and the chilling accounts of her past behaviors. The information brought forward, including startling admissions from Jodi’s niece, Jesse Hildebrandt, gives an alarming perspective on the extent of Jodi's manipulation.
 
 "The lady is crazy and abusive and inappropriate," Shavaun remarked, addressing the serious accusations against Jodi. It was Jesse who recounted her traumatic time under Jodi's care, detailing how she was forced to sleep outside in the snow, duct-taped, isolated, and made to write out her 'sins.' This wasn't a singular incident confined to Ruby Franke's children. Jesse’s account indicates a pattern that Jodi had maintained for years.
 
 Concerns arise when one wonders how such actions went unchecked. The issue isn't merely about an individual’s wrongdoing but the system that allowed it. "It makes one wonder about the licensing board in the state of Utah," Shavaun notes, questioning how Jodi was allowed to run a counseling agency despite her history. The deeper connection between Jodi's counseling services and the Mormon faith's endorsement may offer some insight.
 
 "Having the affirmation of the Mormon faith gave her power," Shavaun suggests. This backing, it seems, provided a veil that prevented closer scrutiny of her actions. Notably, even when the Church ceased its official endorsement of Jodi, individual recommendations persisted, shielding her from accountability.
 
 Another figure entangled in this web is Kevin Franke, Ruby's husband. His seemingly passive role raises eyebrows. "It's like these women were running the show and dictating everything to him," Brueski observes. Despite being an educated professional, Kevin’s questionable actions towards his children, especially during a contentious interaction over the retrieval of personal belongings, casts him in a perplexing light. His lawyer's emphasis on his alleged 'victimhood' contrasts sharply with his actions.
 
 The twisted dynamics between Ruby, Jodi, and Kevin brings forward another daunting aspect of this narrative: the ease with which individuals can be manipulated and controlled, especially by someone exhibiting cult-like dominance. Ruby, despite her age and apparent agency, might herself have fallen prey to Jodi's influence. Shavaun parallels this case to the notorious Chad Daybell and Lori Vallow scenario, explaining, "When you have 2 people who are not well, and you put them together, then you get a monster."
 
 This multi-layered tale of control, manipulation, and deranged behavior serves as a stark reminder of the vulnerabilities humans possess, even when they seem most secure. The dangers aren't always from the outside. Sometimes, the most significant threats reside in the trust we place in those closest to us, and the institutions we hold dear.
 
 In a world where trust is paramount, how do we discern genuine guidance from manipulative control?

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How can a person, seemingly under the radar of authority, inflict such egregious harm on the vulnerable for an extended period? This is the question that echoes through a recent episode of "Hidden Killers" with Tony Brueski. Psychotherapist and author, Shavaun Scott, dives deep into the chilling accounts surrounding Jodi Hildebrandt, revealing a tapestry of trauma, manipulation, and institutional oversight.
 
 Jesse Hildebrandt, Jodi's niece, recently recounted her harrowing experiences on Nightline. "She would lock me up in a room... make me write out my sins on paper," she disclosed, further narrating how she was forced to sleep outside in the snow and was restrained with duct tape. But Jesse isn't the lone voice echoing these sentiments. Similar tales, stemming from the children of Ruby Franke, also paint a bleak portrait of Jodi's long standing modus operandi.
 
 Brueski, perplexed by the depth of these allegations, inquired, "How does this... exist, I guess is the question, with no oversight?" For many, the answer seems as elusive as it is chilling. Shavaun Scott's insights on the matter are unequivocal: "The lady is crazy and abusive and inappropriate." This dire assessment leaves many to ponder how the state's licensing board in Utah let Jodi's malevolent practices persist for so long.
 
 Intriguingly, the conversation soon steers toward a controversial nexus - religion. The Latter-day Saint (LDS) church, which once endorsed Jodi, becomes a topic of debate. While Brueski clarified that the intent isn't to denigrate LDS, he raises a poignant question: Can an institution's reputation cloud judgment when allegations emerge? Scott concurs, theorizing that the affirmation from the Mormon faith may have inadvertently empowered Jodi, allowing her to carry on with her unsettling approach, particularly as it meshed with certain conservative views on sexuality.
 
 But Jodi isn't the only character under scrutiny. Kevin Franke, associated with Jodi and Ruby, finds himself at the center of a complex web of relationships and actions. "It's hard, quite frankly, looking at Kevin Franke," states Brueski, baffled by Franke's purported detachment from his children and the inexplicable passivity to the unfolding drama. Franke's seemingly bizarre behavior — from limited contact with his children to accusations against his own daughter — further thickens the plot.
 
 As more details emerge, a larger question looms: who truly is the victim? While Kevin's attorney posits him as one, the narratives from those harmed and the documented evidence may suggest otherwise. Scott provides a clear analysis, stating, "Ruby is not right. Jodi is not right. And I don't think Kevin is quite right either."
 
 In the end, the intricate web spun by Jodi Hildebrandt, Ruby Franke, Kevin Franke, and their intersections with institutional faith expose the fragile balances within societal structures. The alarming ease with which harmful practices can persist, shielded by faith or organizational affiliations, stands as a testament to the need for vigilant oversight and reflection.
 
 In the face of such profound revelations, one is left pondering: In a world where protection should be paramount, how can so many cries go unheard for so long?

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Can the sanctity of religious institutions provide camouflage for sinister intentions?
In the latest episode of the podcast "Hidden Killers", Tony Brueski dives deep into the controversial cases of Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt, speaking with former FBI Special Agent and regular contributor, Jennifer Coffindaffer. The revelations are shocking and challenge us to rethink the nature of trust and the potentially dangerous intersections between faith and abuse.
 
 "Here we're talking about this specific example, this specific religion and this specific community," begins Brueski, "But when you look at it in a broader term of child abuse and institutionalized child abuse...it's very hard to come to terms with something that you've believed your whole life was pure and good and wonderful."
 
 Coffindaffer expounds on this sentiment, reflecting on the dark side of such powerful institutions: "I believe wholeheartedly that people in church organizations are targeted because of their kind hearts and they can be easily influenced." This influence isn't limited to one denomination or community. From the Catholic Church to isolated cults, there is a history of individuals manipulating the faith and goodwill of their community for nefarious purposes.
 
 Brueski recalls a tale from Wichita, where an amusement park venture headed by a convicted fraudster drained the funds of a church community. Coffindaffer adds, citing the infamous cases of Jim Jones and David Koresh, where entire communities were led astray by charismatic leaders with twisted interpretations of religious texts.
 
 Central to the episode is the case of Kevin Franke. Franke's claims of limited contact with his children and strange reactions to the recent actions of his daughter raise eyebrows. "He's saying that he's had very limited contact with Jodi, or the kids...I don't know how to get a read on him or put myself in his shoes because I don't know what kind of shoes he's wearing," says Brueski.
 
 Coffindaffer, never one to mince her words, labels Franke as a "deplorable father." The apparent neglect and the cryptic actions surrounding his daughter retrieving diaries from the house seem to suggest darker undercurrents. "I think she's gonna sink their ship 100 percent," Brueski observes, emphasizing the importance of the information in those diaries.
 
 Drawing parallels to another chilling case, Brueski brings up the "boy in the box" situation, highlighting the harrowing detachment some parents exhibit towards their children. The sad reality, as Coffindaffer points out, is that children often do not want to turn against their parents, even when faced with glaring evidence of their parents' misdeeds.
 
 The episode is a stark reminder of the depths some individuals can sink to, and how even institutions built on love, trust, and community can sometimes be manipulated by those with darker motives. It emphasizes the importance of vigilance and education to protect vulnerable members of society.
 
 In concluding the episode, Brueski poses a question, reflecting the thoughts of many: "It doesn't make any sense to those of us who do love our children." Indeed, the discussion provokes intense emotions and underscores the vital responsibility society holds to shield its most vulnerable members.
 
 As we absorb the revelations of this episode, another question lingers: In a world where trust is essential, how do we guard against those who exploit it?

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Could it be that the whispers of abuse from the Franke-Hildebrandt households were systematically ignored until they reached a deafening crescendo? In a revealing conversation on "Hidden Killers" podcast, host Tony Brueski probed the alleged cases of child mistreatment involving Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt. His discussion with attorney and former Federal prosecutor Neama Rahmani unpacked the dynamics that might have allowed such harrowing episodes to persist.
 
 Jesse Hildebrandt, niece of Jodi, recently spoke to Nightline about unsettling experiences during her youth. According to Jesse, she faced "lock-ups" in rooms, was compelled to pen down her sins - echoing a significant influence from Jodi's LDS background - and endured harsh punishments like being forced to sleep outside amidst snow or being restrained with duct tape. This narrative bears an eerie resemblance to what Ruby Franke's children allegedly went through, bringing to light the abusive patterns ingrained in these families.
 
 "Look, I've been trying to let people know about this for quite some time," Jesse had asserted, hinting at overlooked cries for help. Ruby Franke's 20-year-old daughter had reportedly been waving red flags too. Yet, it took the discovery of the emaciated sibling, who sought refuge at a neighbor's doorstep, to blow the lid off.
 
 Rahmani weighed in, expressing frustration over the lack of transparency. "With juvenile records being confidential and sealed, while criminal cases are eventually out in the open, we remain largely in the dark about these abuse allegations. We're essentially relying on tales from family, friends, and neighbors, but the complete picture remains elusive," he remarked.
 
 But the issue is multi-layered. Some individuals, especially those in the public eye like Franke and Hildebrandt, often master the art of deception. Brueski highlighted the dichotomy of their actions, especially given their strong YouTube presence. The alarm bells should have rung even louder when a petition signed by 17,000 individuals had pleaded for a thorough investigation into the families. The signs were there, but were they simply brushed under the carpet?
 
 The discussion also veered towards Kevin Franke's perplexing stance. A figure who remained somewhat on the fringes of these incidents, Kevin's bizarre reactions following his daughter's attempt to retrieve her belongings from their home have raised eyebrows. His accusations against her - alleging burglary when she took away potentially incriminating documents and journals - could very well backfire.
 
 "Kevin better tread lightly," Rahmani opined, emphasizing the fragility of Kevin's position. "We've talked about his exposure... he wasn't there, but he failed to protect his kids, and now he's trying to threaten them? He may find himself in the crosshairs of a criminal investigation."
 
 The attorney went further, critiquing Kevin's apparent detachment from the turmoil engulfing his family. "These are kids. They're being abused. They're being tortured. Kevin's actions, or the lack thereof, might not be criminal, but he doesn't strike me as a good dad at all," Rahmani concluded.
 
 As the story continues to unravel, a cloud of doubt and mistrust hovers. How many warning signs went unheeded? How did such a vast network of supporters and followers remain oblivious, or worse, indifferent, to these tales of torment?
 
 And so, as we reflect on this grim narrative, a haunting question remains: How many more whispered cries for help are we, as a society, failing to hear?
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Welcome to the "Week In Review," where we delve into the true stories behind this week's headlines. Your host, Tony Brueski, joins hands with a rotating roster of guests, sharing their insights and analysis on a collection of intriguing, perplexing, and often chilling stories that made the news.
    
 This is not your average news recap. With the sharp investigative lens of Tony and his guests, the show uncovers layers beneath the headlines, offering a comprehensive perspective that traditional news can often miss. From high-profile criminal trials to in-depth examinations of ongoing investigations, this podcast takes listeners on a fascinating journey through the world of true crime and current events.
    
 Each episode navigates through multiple stories, illuminating their details with factual reporting, expert commentary, and engaging conversation. Tony and his guests discuss each case's nuances, complexities, and human elements, delivering a multi-dimensional understanding to their audience.

 Whether you are a dedicated follower of true crime or an everyday listener interested in the stories shaping our world, the "Week In Review" brings you the perfect balance of intrigue, information, and intelligent conversation. Expect thoughtful analysis, informed opinions, and thought-provoking discussions beyond the 24-hour news cycle.
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Welcome to the "Week In Review," where we delve into the true stories behind this week's headlines. Your host, Tony Brueski, joins hands with a rotating roster of guests, sharing their insights and analysis on a collection of intriguing, perplexing, and often chilling stories that made the news.
    
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Welcome to the "Week In Review," where we delve into the true stories behind this week's headlines. Your host, Tony Brueski, joins hands with a rotating roster of guests, sharing their insights and analysis on a collection of intriguing, perplexing, and often chilling stories that made the news.
    
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 Each episode navigates through multiple stories, illuminating their details with factual reporting, expert commentary, and engaging conversation. Tony and his guests discuss each case's nuances, complexities, and human elements, delivering a multi-dimensional understanding to their audience.

 Whether you are a dedicated follower of true crime or an everyday listener interested in the stories shaping our world, the "Week In Review" brings you the perfect balance of intrigue, information, and intelligent conversation. Expect thoughtful analysis, informed opinions, and thought-provoking discussions beyond the 24-hour news cycle.
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Have you ever wondered how seemingly ordinary individuals can be inexplicably drawn into the magnetic pull of a charismatic leader? The recent episode of "Hidden Killers," hosted by Tony Brueski, delves deep into this very question as he converses with retired FBI Special Agent, Robin Dreeke, about the puzzling dynamics surrounding Ruby Franke, Jodi Hildebrandt, and notably, Kevin Franke, Ruby’s husband.
 
 The story paints a perplexing picture. At its heart is Ruby Franke, a popular YouTuber with a significant following, and Jodi Hildebrandt, a person who, as Dreeke suggests, seemed to have been "a cult leader looking for a cult." Ruby, with her sizeable audience but lacking the assertive charisma of a leader, appears to have made the perfect target for Hildebrandt. Brueski muses, “And Ruby just kind of got sucked in there. Or maybe she had a much larger role in that.”
 
 However, the situation becomes all the more bewildering when considering Kevin Franke, Ruby's husband. From an outsider's perspective, his position seems sympathetic: a husband witnessing a charismatic figure taking control of his wife's thoughts, feelings, and actions. Dreeke elaborates on this, revealing, “She [Jodi] got Kevin out of the picture by saying, you got to get separated. It's really unhealthy...to take total control of the access that Kevin had to this family.”
 
 In a twist, Brueski points out an interesting observation: Jodi Hildebrandt isn't overwhelmingly charismatic, unlike famed motivational figures such as Tony Robbins. Yet, she had an uncanny ability to manipulate and control. “She's been extremely negative, very much about separating families and separating people. What is it that drew people to someone like Jodi Hildebrandt?”
 
 Dreeke postulates that Hildebrandt's influence may not have hinged on innate charisma but rather on the "lever of influence" she wielded by using her assumed titles and the church's endorsement. According to him, Jodi's apparent authority, combined with Ruby's popularity, was a potent mix: "Ruby's the one that had the charismatic side of her...When you got Jodi, she used a lever of influence of authority." In essence, Jodi's assumed credibility combined with the trust Ruby's followers had in her created a dynamic that was hard for anyone, even Kevin, to counteract.
 
 These recent revelations raise alarming questions about the ease with which individuals can fall prey to manipulative personalities, especially when these manipulators are armed with perceived authority or endorsements. Dreeke laments on the detrimental effects of such influence, commenting on the misdiagnoses and questionable advice Jodi offered. As he reflects on the situation, Dreeke remains speculative, “I’m making it a narrative, you know, a fictional narrative maybe. But when you look at the data points that we're seeing and you look at levers of influence and you put it all together...what a mess.”
 
 Indeed, the tale of Kevin Franke, his wife Ruby, and the mysterious Jodi Hildebrandt serves as a cautionary tale of the hidden dangers lurking in our modern, interconnected world, where influence can easily be wielded, and lives can swiftly be upended.
 
 However, as we wrap up this recounting, a lingering question remains: In an age of digital connectivity and endless sources of information, how can one truly discern genuine authority from dangerous manipulation?
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The child abuse case involving Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt has prompted Senator David Hinkins to advocate for enhanced oversight of life coaches across Utah. Hinkins believes that the state must take a more proactive role in regulating this industry to protect families and individuals seeking guidance.
 
 The impetus for Hinkins' call for action came from Ruby Franke's estranged husband, Kevin, who approached the lawmaker, urging him to investigate the qualifications required to become a life coach. Shockingly, Hinkins discovered that there are no mandatory qualifications, creating a concern that unqualified life coaches may be adversely affecting families for an extended period.
 
 One alarming aspect highlighted by the case is the potentially misleading titles used by life coaches. The Connexions Classroom website, which remains operational, describes Ruby Franke as a "certified mental fitness trainer." Sen. Hinkins expressed concern over such titles, stating, "It's just a title that somebody could make up and makes it sound professional, when it's really probably not."
 
 Furthermore, while some online classes offer what they call "mental fitness training," state law currently allows individuals like Franke to use such titles without any mandatory background training or qualifications. Hinkins emphasized, "I don't think there's anything that stops her from saying that, and I don't know that she's had any background training to be that."
 
 Former clients of Connexions Classroom have accused Franke and company founder Jodi Hildebrandt of employing shaming tactics designed to create divisions within families. One client, Trey Warner, shared a disturbing example, where a man believed he was a danger to his family merely because he had a momentary lapse of concentration. Warner recalled, "This guy got his own apartment and separated from his family because he was a 'danger.'"
 
 The critical issue at hand is the lack of regulations and standards governing life coaches in Utah. Sen. Hinkins highlighted this gap, stating, "Right now, there's nothing regulating [them]. They can tell people to do anything they want, and there's no recourse." He believes that individuals professing to be life coaches should be subject to criteria to establish credibility and protect the well-being of their clients.
 
 Officials from the Utah Division of Professional Licensing declined an on-camera interview but sent a text response, acknowledging the absence of licensure requirements for life coaches in the state. They noted that some complaints involve former licensed behavioral health practitioners who lost their licenses and now operate as life coaches, providing services that may be illegal.
 
 Sen. Hinkins clarified that the bill he intends to draft is in its early stages and aims to strike a balance between providing oversight and ensuring that people can offer advice to their family members when requested. He plans to collaborate closely with the Utah Division of Professional Licensing to develop effective legislation that addresses these concerns.
 
 The child abuse case involving Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt has underscored the need for clearer standards and oversight within the life coaching industry, as Utah seeks to protect its residents from potentially harmful advice and practices.
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In a shocking turn of events, Kevin Franke, the husband of renowned YouTube vlogger Ruby Franke, has filed for divorce and a domestic relations injunction, seeking protection amidst a backdrop of child abuse charges against his estranged wife. The case has sent shockwaves through the online parenting community, where Ruby Franke and her business partner, Jodi Hildebrandt, once thrived as popular content creators.
 
 The divorce filing, submitted in Utah's 4th District Court, comes amid a harrowing child abuse case that Ruby Franke and Hildebrandt have been entangled in, facing six counts of aggravated child abuse. The charges have raised serious concerns about the safety and well-being of their children, who were prominently featured in their online content.
 
 The court documents, while not fully accessible to the public, reveal significant provisions in the injunction aimed at ensuring a safe and amicable separation process:
 
 - **Protection Against Harassment:** Both Kevin and Ruby Franke are prohibited from harassing each other during the divorce proceedings.
 
 - **Prevention of Domestic Violence:** The injunction strictly forbids any acts of domestic violence against each other or their children.
 
 - **Misuse of Personal Information:** Neither party is allowed to misuse personal information for any purpose related to the ongoing legal matters.
 
 - **Financial Safeguards:** The court orders prevent the couple from using each other's likeness to open credit lines and interfering with one another's phone or utility services.
 
 - **Child Custody Measures:** Specific court orders are in place for non-routine travel with their children, indicating the importance of safeguarding their well-being.
 
 The divorce filing and injunction come in the wake of a disturbing incident where Ruby Franke's 12-year-old son managed to escape their home, appearing emaciated and with duct tape on his body. A 911 call led the police to discover not only the 12-year-old but also his malnourished 10-year-old sister within their mother's residence. All the children, including Kevin Franke's other offspring, have now been placed in state custody.
 
 Kevin Franke's attorney has stated that his client and Ruby Franke had been living separately for about a year and claimed to be unaware of the alleged abuse occurring in Ruby's household during that time. This separation could have played a pivotal role in Kevin Franke's decision to file for divorce and seek the domestic relations injunction.
 
 An additional layer of complexity to this already tumultuous situation was added when an ongoing child welfare case involving the couple was ordered sealed by a judge on October 10th. Kevin Franke had been actively seeking custody of their children, citing potential harm to the minor parties involved due to public and media interest in the case.
 
 The shocking developments in the Franke family's personal life have raised questions about the responsibilities of social media influencers and the potential consequences of sharing their lives online, especially when it involves children. As the legal proceedings continue and the child abuse case unfolds, the online parenting community and the public at large will be watching closely, hoping for a resolution that ensures the safety and well-being of the Franke children.

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How does a family's private turmoil escalate to a point where it captures public attention and raises serious legal and ethical questions? The latest discussion on "Hidden Killers" podcast, hosted by Tony Brueski, with attorney and former federal prosecutor Neama Rahmani, delves deep into the disturbing case involving Ruby Franke, Jodi Hildebrandt, and Kevin Franke, exploring the perplexing dynamics and potential legal ramifications.
 
 The conversation begins with a focus on Kevin Franke's role and his claim of being brainwashed. “I was willing to take anyone's advice I thought was a professional that could help me reestablish that relationship in my bond with my kids and family and my wife at the end. I was brainwashed,” Kevin stated, according to his attorney. Rahmani, weighing in on this claim, finds it plausible but also suggests that Kevin's initial actions were questionable. “After Ruby was arrested, he came out with some very bizarre statements in the media defending her... What kind of parent are you?” Rahmani questions.
 
 The discussion moves to the broader implications of the case, particularly the abuse allegations involving Jodi Hildebrandt. Jesse Hildebrandt, Jodi's niece, recently recounted to Nightline her traumatic experiences under Jodi’s care, which resonate disturbingly with the treatment of Ruby's children. These revelations paint a picture of systemic abuse that went unnoticed for far too long.
 
 Brueski raises the question of institutional failure and oversight, pondering how such prolonged abuse escaped thorough investigation. Rahmani highlights the confidentiality of juvenile records, which often obscures the full extent of such cases from public view. He notes, “We're relying on what's been told to us by family members, friends, and neighbors, but it's very difficult to know from the law enforcement perspective what they actually knew and what they acted upon.”
 
 The conversation shifts to Kevin Franke's actions, particularly his reaction to his daughter retrieving belongings from their home, which Rahmani describes as “bizarre behavior.” This leads to a broader discussion on the potential for criminal charges against Kevin. “He's definitely lost in the court of public opinion...but with respect to criminal charges, is it possible? Yes, it's possible,” Rahmani acknowledges, outlining the challenges in prosecuting failure-to-protect cases when the parent is not physically present during the abuse.
 
 Rahmani also explores the possibility of Kevin being charged with abandonment. He explains, “Parents are free to give up custody of their kids...there's nothing unlawful with that, unless Kevin acted with some knowledge or recklessness of the fact that Ruby was and is going to continue abusing those kids.”
 
 The Franke-Hildebrandt case, as dissected by Brueski and Rahmani, reveals a tangled web of familial, legal, and moral complexities. It underscores the need for vigilance in child welfare cases and raises critical questions about the responsibilities of parents and the effectiveness of oversight mechanisms in protecting vulnerable children.
 
 As this story continues to unfold, one cannot help but wonder: In cases where the line between victim and perpetrator blurs, how do we ensure justice for the most vulnerable, while also holding all accountable parties responsible?
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How does one discern the line between being influenced and abdicating personal responsibility, especially when it involves the safety of one's children? This conundrum sits at the heart of the latest episode of "Hidden Killers," where host Tony Brueski and retired FBI Special Agent Robin Dreeke discuss the complex case involving Ruby Franke, Jodi Hildebrandt, and Kevin Franke.
 
 Kevin Franke's role in the case has come under scrutiny following his claim of being brainwashed by the life coaching services offered by his wife Ruby and Jodi Hildebrandt. According to Franke’s attorney, Kevin stated that in his desperation to reunite with his family, he blindly followed the advice of those he believed were professionals. But as Brueski and Dreeke delve deeper into the case, the question arises: Was Kevin truly a victim of brainwashing, or did he display a dangerous level of negligence as a parent?
 
 Dreeke introduces the concept of "toxic codependency," suggesting that Kevin's actions might have stemmed from an unhealthy dependence on the abusive dynamics dictated by Ruby and Jodi. "What we have here is an extremely unbalanced, unhealthy equation," Dreeke explains, referring to the dysfunctional relationship dynamics within the Franke family. He criticizes the passive role Kevin played, allowing his wife and her accomplice to manipulate and even torture their children.
 
 The discussion also touches upon the alarming allegations of physical abuse against the children, including the use of cayenne pepper on wounds – a practice far removed from any standard parenting or disciplinary measures. Dreeke highlights the cult-like characteristics of the situation, where Ruby and Jodi enforced a singular, damaging mindset and ostracized anyone who dared to challenge their methods.
 
 The panelists examine the broader implications of the case, particularly the role of religious institutions in inadvertently enabling such behaviors. Hildebrandt, who was recommended by the church as a counselor, exploited this endorsement to gain trust and manipulate her clients. "She used that one term [sexual deviancy] for everything," Dreeke points out, emphasizing the manipulative tactics employed by Hildebrandt.
 
 Furthermore, the conversation sheds light on the dangers of unregulated titles like 'life coach,' which Hildebrandt adopted after losing her license to practice. This title, lacking oversight, allowed her to continue her manipulative practices under a guise of authority. "You really have to look at who you're putting your trust into," Brueski cautions, highlighting the importance of scrutinizing the credentials and background of those offering life guidance.
 
 As the episode concludes, the spotlight remains on Kevin Franke. His actions, or lack thereof, particularly in response to his daughter's attempts to retrieve personal belongings, raise questions about his true intentions and awareness. "He seems like somebody complicit," Dreeke asserts, challenging the narrative of Kevin as a mere victim.
 
 This complex saga of manipulation, abuse, and neglect within the Franke-Hildebrandt household forces listeners to confront uncomfortable truths about family dynamics, religious influence, and personal accountability.
 
 As we ponder this harrowing tale, one question lingers: In a world where influence can so easily turn toxic, how do we protect the most vulnerable, especially when the threat comes from within their own home?
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In a recent episode of "Hidden Killers," host Tony Brueski engages in a critical discussion with Jennifer Coffindaffer, a retired FBI special agent, delving into the perplexing dynamics of the Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt case. The conversation circles around a crucial question: Was Kevin Franke, Ruby's husband, brainwashed or simply negligent?
 
 The case, which has captured public attention, involves allegations of child abuse and manipulation within a family setting. Kevin Franke's role and his degree of awareness or involvement in the abuse have become points of intense scrutiny. His attorney's revelation that Kevin felt "brainwashed" and desperate to reconnect with his family raises questions about his culpability and the extent of his influence over the situation.
 
 Coffindaffer expresses skepticism about Kevin's claim: "I'm not buying any of it. I think he's an intelligent man. For him to not think about the welfare of his children is ridiculous and just an excuse." This sentiment is echoed in the discussion of a recent incident involving Kevin's reaction to his oldest daughter retrieving personal items from their home, which Coffindaffer describes as "a telling moment."
 
 Brueski and Coffindaffer explore the parallels between this case and others involving extreme beliefs or manipulative relationships, such as Chad and Lori Daybell. The conversation also touches upon the potential legal implications for Kevin, especially considering his initial defense of Ruby despite the abuse allegations against her. "He's definitely lost in the court of public opinion...maybe even criminal," Rahmani notes, discussing the complexities of prosecuting failure-to-protect cases.
 
 The discussion also delves into the broader societal implications of such cases, particularly the role of religious institutions and the community in either ignoring or inadvertently enabling abusive behavior. The connection to the LDS Church and its potential influence on the dynamics within the Franke and Hildebrandt households is examined, highlighting the complicated interplay between faith, trust, and exploitation.
 
 As the conversation concludes, the focus shifts to the future and the ongoing public perception of Kevin Franke. The panelists ponder the possibility of criminal charges and the likelihood of Kevin defending himself effectively. Coffindaffer emphasizes the importance of looking beyond excuses and considering the welfare of the children involved.
 
 The "Hidden Killers" episode sheds light on the often murky waters of family dynamics, influence, and abuse. It forces listeners to confront uncomfortable truths about manipulation, responsibility, and the power dynamics within households.
 
As the case continues to unfold, the public is left to grapple with a crucial question: In situations where the line between victim and perpetrator is blurred, how do we ensure that justice is served, especially for the most vulnerable?
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Can a person truly be brainwashed to the extent of overlooking the well-being of their own children? This is the central question that Tony Brueski and psychotherapist Shavaun Scott explore in a recent episode of "Hidden Killers," focusing on the complex and disturbing case involving Ruby Franke, Jodi Hildebrandt, and Kevin Franke.
 
Kevin Franke, Ruby’s husband, now amidst a divorce, has claimed through his attorney that he was brainwashed by Ruby and Jodi’s life coach teachings. He asserts that this manipulation rendered him oblivious to the abuse his children were undergoing. "I was so desperate to get my wife and my children back, I was willing to take anyone's advice," he reportedly said. Brueski and Scott delve into the plausibility of this defense and its implications.
 
Shavaun Scott, a seasoned psychotherapist, expresses skepticism about the brainwashing claim. She suggests that Kevin's situation is more indicative of a personality flaw marked by extreme passivity, rather than brainwashing typically seen in hostage scenarios or cults. "What Kevin Franke experienced is more, he's incredibly passive and let Ruby make all the big decisions regarding the kids," Scott explains, highlighting the moral failing in Kevin’s lack of initiative as a parent.
 
The discussion then shifts to the broader issue of the term 'life coach,' a title used by Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt. Scott expresses concern about the unregulated nature of this industry, noting the potential for psychological damage inflicted by unqualified individuals masquerading as professional advisors. "It's a scam. They're peddling snake oil with a lot of psychobabble," she remarks, pointing out the stark contrast between the rigorous training required for licensed mental health clinicians and the lack of oversight in life coaching.
 
Scott also delves into the insidious tactics employed by these self-proclaimed life coaches, describing how they exploit vulnerable individuals seeking quick fixes for complex issues. She emphasizes the danger of individuals like Hildebrandt, who was even recommended by a church, infiltrating trusted communities and disseminating harmful ideologies under the guise of professional guidance.
 
The conversation also touches on the changing dynamics within the mental health profession, with technology and other lucrative fields attracting young talent, leaving a gap in the traditional psychotherapy landscape. Scott stresses the demanding nature of the profession and the critical importance of maintaining rigorous standards to ensure public protection.
 
As the episode concludes, Brueski and Scott reflect on the challenging task of regulating industries like life coaching. While outright banning terms or practices may not be feasible, they agree on the importance of raising public awareness and education to prevent exploitation by unqualified individuals.

The Franke-Hildebrandt case, as dissected by Brueski and Scott, sheds light on the complexities of familial dynamics, the blurred lines between influence and neglect, and the dangers lurking in unregulated advisory roles. It serves as a cautionary tale about the lengths to which individuals may go under the influence of toxic relationships and unverified expertise.
 
In a world where the distinction between genuine help and harmful manipulation is increasingly blurred, how do we safeguard ourselves and our loved ones from falling prey to the hidden killers in our midst?
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When does influence cross the line into manipulation, and at what point does one lose sight of their moral and legal responsibilities as a parent? These are the central questions posed in a recent episode of "Hidden Killers," where host Tony Brueski and former prosecutor Laurie Gilbertson delve into the complex case of Ruby and Kevin Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt.
 
 Kevin Franke claims he was brainwashed by the teachings of his wife, Ruby, and her accomplice, Jodi Hildebrandt, leading to his unawareness of the abuse his children suffered. Gilbertson, weighing in on this assertion, questions the validity of the brainwashing claim. "Brainwashing just doesn't seem to cut it for me," she states, highlighting the moral lapse in Kevin’s absence as a father. The discussion probes the distinction between toxic codependency and deliberate neglect, with Gilbertson expressing disbelief at the extent of Kevin's alleged unawareness.
 
 The conversation then shifts to the broader implications of Kevin's inaction. Gilbertson draws attention to the moral and potential legal ramifications of his choice to stay away from his children, despite there being no legal decree enforcing this separation. "Morally, 100% he needed to be taking responsibility," Gilbertson emphasizes, outlining the stark contrast between his claims of ignorance and the publicly available evidence of abuse on Ruby's YouTube channel.
 
 The panelists also touch upon the role of public perception and community response in such cases. Neighbors and viewers of the YouTube channel were alarmed enough to alert authorities, yet Kevin remained ostensibly oblivious to the unfolding situation. This dissonance raises questions about his complicity and the degree of his moral failing.
 
 Gilbertson delves into the legal aspects, explaining the potential for civil liability in cases where a parent fails to fulfill their duties, even in the absence of a formal separation agreement. She suggests that Kevin's voluntary choice to stay away from his children, despite being fully aware of Ruby's controversial parenting methods, could place him in a precarious legal position.
 
 As the episode concludes, Brueski and Gilbertson reflect on the fine line between influence and manipulation in familial relationships. The Franke-Hildebrandt case emerges as a cautionary tale about the consequences of relinquishing parental responsibility and the dangers of blindly following a partner's lead, especially when it concerns the wellbeing of children.
 
 In a world where the boundaries of influence are often blurred, how do we ensure that parents fulfill their moral and legal responsibilities to their children, particularly in the face of potential manipulation or coercion? This remains an open question, inviting further contemplation and discourse.
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Is it possible for someone to be brainwashed into neglecting their parental responsibilities? This is the question Tony Brueski and former prosecutor Laurie Gilbertson ponder in their podcast "Hidden Killers," while discussing the complex case of Ruby and Kevin Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt.
 
 Kevin Franke claims he was brainwashed by Ruby and Jodi, leading him to be oblivious to the abuse his children suffered. Gilbertson, however, is skeptical. "Brainwashing just doesn't seem to cut it for me," she remarks, indicating the moral lapse in Kevin’s prolonged absence as a father. Gilbertson stresses that while moral responsibility is clear, the legal accountability might not be as straightforward.
 
 The focus then shifts to the controversial role of 'life coaching,' a title used by Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt. Gilbertson and Brueski express concern about the unregulated nature of this industry and its potential for harm. "Anyone can put themselves out there as an expert," Gilbertson notes, highlighting the dangers of unqualified individuals presenting themselves as professional advisors.
 
 This discussion sheds light on the broader issue of public perception and the responsibility of individuals in seeking out such services. Gilbertson urges the public to be vigilant, emphasizing the importance of researching the credentials and experiences of potential coaches or advisors.
 
 One significant aspect of the conversation revolves around Kevin Franke's inaction. Despite the lack of a legal separation order, he chose not to check on his children, raising questions about his liability. Gilbertson points out the moral failing in his choice, despite his claims of being misled by Ruby and Jodi.
 
 As the episode concludes, Brueski and Gilbertson delve into the potential legislative solutions to regulate the life coaching industry. However, Gilbertson is doubtful about the effectiveness of legislation, fearing that it might only lead to a change in terminology rather than a substantial shift in practices.
 
 The Franke-Hildebrandt case, as dissected in "Hidden Killers," poses challenging questions about the boundaries of influence and manipulation in familial relationships, and the ethics of unregulated advisory roles. It highlights the importance of accountability, both moral and legal, in the protection of vulnerable individuals from predatory practices.
 
 In a world where the line between guidance and manipulation is increasingly blurred, how can we ensure that individuals do not exploit the trust placed in them, particularly in the context of family and professional advice? This question remains open, inviting deeper reflection and discourse on the responsibilities inherent in such roles.

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Welcome to the "Week in Review," where we delve into the true stories behind this week's headlines. Your host, Tony Brueski, joins hands with a rotating roster of guests, sharing their insights and analysis on a collection of intriguing, perplexing, and often chilling stories that made the news.
    
 This is not your average news recap. With the sharp investigative lens of Tony and his guests, the show uncovers layers beneath the headlines, offering a comprehensive perspective that traditional news can often miss. From high-profile criminal trials to in-depth examinations of ongoing investigations, this podcast takes listeners on a fascinating journey through the world of true crime and current events.
    
 Each episode navigates through multiple stories, illuminating their details with factual reporting, expert commentary, and engaging conversation. Tony and his guests discuss each case's nuances, complexities, and human elements, delivering a multi-dimensional understanding to their audience.

 Whether you are a dedicated follower of true crime or an everyday listener interested in the stories shaping our world, the "Week In Review" brings you the perfect balance of intrigue, information, and intelligent conversation. Expect thoughtful analysis, informed opinions, and thought-provoking discussions beyond the 24-hour news cycle.
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Welcome to the "Week in Review," where we delve into the true stories behind this week's headlines. Your host, Tony Brueski, joins hands with a rotating roster of guests, sharing their insights and analysis on a collection of intriguing, perplexing, and often chilling stories that made the news.
    
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Welcome to the "Week in Review," where we delve into the true stories behind this week's headlines. Your host, Tony Brueski, joins hands with a rotating roster of guests, sharing their insights and analysis on a collection of intriguing, perplexing, and often chilling stories that made the news.
    
 This is not your average news recap. With the sharp investigative lens of Tony and his guests, the show uncovers layers beneath the headlines, offering a comprehensive perspective that traditional news can often miss. From high-profile criminal trials to in-depth examinations of ongoing investigations, this podcast takes listeners on a fascinating journey through the world of true crime and current events.
    
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Welcome to the "Week in Review," where we delve into the true stories behind this week's headlines. Your host, Tony Brueski, joins hands with a rotating roster of guests, sharing their insights and analysis on a collection of intriguing, perplexing, and often chilling stories that made the news.
    
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In a recent development that has shocked many, Ruby Franke, a once-popular YouTuber known for her parenting advice videos, is set to enter a plea agreement on multiple counts of child abuse in Washington County, Utah. This story, emerging from the St. George Courthouse, reveals a harrowing tale of trust, betrayal, and the complex journey toward accountability and healing.

The Arrest and Charges
Ruby Franke and her business partner, Jodi Hildebrandt, were arrested in August after a distressing incident involving one of Franke's children. The child, having escaped Hildebrandt's home, sought help from a neighbor, revealing signs of abuse including duct tape on their ankles and wrists. This alarming discovery led to the police finding one of Franke's daughters in an emaciated state at Hildebrandt's residence.

Both Franke and Hildebrandt faced six counts of aggravated child abuse. Their collaboration on ConneXions, a platform for parenting advice, now stands in stark contrast to the charges they face.

The Plea Agreement
As reported by Jeff Tavss of FOX 13, Franke is expected to enter a plea agreement, the details of which will be disclosed at a hearing. This move, confirmed by Winward Law, the firm representing Franke, marks a significant turn in this unsettling case.

The Blame and Responsibility
In a statement, Franke's attorneys suggest that she was a victim of Hildebrandt's manipulation. They describe Franke as a "devoted mother" who was "taken advantage of by a person she trusted." The statement further alleges that Hildebrandt "systematically isolated Ruby Franke from her extended family, older children, and her husband, Kevin Franke," leading to a "distorted sense of morality, shaped by Ms. Hildebrandt’s influence."

Despite these claims, Franke acknowledges her role in the events. Her lawyers convey her intent to take responsibility for her actions, stating, "Ms. Franke has engaged in introspection while in jail over the past several months and understands the full weight of her actions."

A Path to Healing
Franke's commitment to personal growth and rehabilitation is evident in her actions while in custody. She has reached out to her family, offering heartfelt apologies in an effort to mend relationships and contribute to their healing journey.
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Ruby Franke, a Utah mother of six who gained fame through her YouTube channel "8 Passengers," pleaded guilty on Monday to four felony counts of second-degree aggravated child abuse, admitting to the abuse and starvation of two of her children. The plea was entered in a courtroom where Franke appeared wearing gray and white jail clothing, expressing her deepest regret for her actions.

The charges stemmed from a disturbing incident that unfolded earlier this year when Franke's 12-year-old son escaped from a residence in the southern Utah city of Ivins, where he had been held captive. Covered in wounds and with duct tape on his wrists and ankles, the boy approached a neighbor and asked for help, prompting a 911 call.

The caller stated, "I think he's been ... he's been detained," while describing the emaciated and wounded state of the child. Authorities swiftly responded to the call and discovered Franke's 10-year-old daughter at the same location. Both children were rushed to the hospital, with the younger ones eventually taken into state custody.

Franke's husband, Kevin Franke, has filed for divorce following the incident. The family's YouTube channel, "8 Passengers," was known for its parenting advice but came under scrutiny for controversial decisions, including a video showing the couple banning their oldest son from his bedroom for seven months and refusing to provide lunch for a kindergartener who forgot it at home.

Franke also faced criticism for threatening to cut the head off a young girl's stuffed toy as a punishment. In one video, she revealed that her two youngest children wouldn't receive gifts from Santa Claus one year due to their behavior.

The shocking case revealed that Franke had been influenced by a relationship counselor, Jodi Hildebrandt, who manipulated her sense of morality, leading to the abuse. Franke's attorney, LaMar Winward, explained, "Ruby Franke is a devoted mother and is also a woman committed to constant improvement." He added, "Hildebrandt systematically isolated Ruby Franke from her extended family, older children, and her husband, Kevin Franke."

Hildebrandt, who is facing allegations in connection with the case, has agreed not to see patients until her situation is addressed by state licensing officials. Her next court hearing is scheduled for December 27. Douglas Terry, her attorney, has not commented on the allegations made by Franke's attorney.

Judge John J. Walton accepted Ruby Franke's plea agreement, leaving her sentencing up to his discretion, which may include prison time. The sentencing is set for February 20. Both Franke and Hildebrandt remain in jail since their arrests.

While incarcerated, Ruby Franke has engaged in introspection, intending to take responsibility for her actions, as stated in a statement by her attorney. The disturbing incident has raised questions about the responsibility of online influencers and the impact their content may have on their personal lives and the lives of their followers.

The "8 Passengers" YouTube channel, which had been active since 2015, came to an abrupt end after seven years, marking a tragic turn in the life of a family once known for sharing their parenting journey online.
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In a shocking twist that leaves many grappling with disbelief, Ruby Franke, the once-celebrated mommy blogger of "8 Passengers," has pled guilty to an appalling series of child abuse crimes. A recent episode of the podcast "Hidden Killers," hosted by Tony Brueski, dove deep into the case with insights from Bob Motta, a noted defense attorney. Their discussion revealed a harrowing tale of abuse and manipulation that has left the public reeling.
 Franke, along with Jodi Hildebrandt, stood accused of perpetrating a range of abuses on her children. The plea agreement, a document typically required by the court to outline the evidence against a defendant, laid bare the extent of these atrocities. The list included forcing children to endure physically exhausting punishments, denying them food and water, isolating them from others, and inflicting physical harm, including kicking and smothering.
 Motta pointed out the strategic move behind Franke's guilty plea. Given the gravity and volume of evidence, most notably the testimonies of her own children, a trial seemed an insurmountable challenge for the defense. The potential sentence Franke faces is daunting, with each count carrying a range of 1 to 15 years, potentially served consecutively. This decision to plead guilty likely stemmed from the desire to reduce the severity of her sentence and to spare her children the trauma of a public trial.
 The discussion also touched upon the role of Jodi Hildebrandt, though her relationship with Franke remains murky. Motta emphasized that regardless of her association with Hildebrandt, Franke’s primary role as a mother was to protect her children, a duty she egregiously failed. Her actions were not only criminal but a gross violation of parental responsibility.
 The court of public opinion has been swift and severe in its judgment. Franke's once-admired persona as a loving mother has been irrevocably tainted. The case stands as a stark reminder of the potential for darkness hidden behind a screen.
 According to Motta, Franke's legal team likely advised her to plead guilty as the best strategic move under the circumstances. Facing a trial with strong evidence against her would have not only increased the likelihood of a harsher sentence but also subjected her children to the ordeal of testifying against their mother.
As the legal proceedings progress towards the sentencing phase, questions loom over the extent of the punishment Franke will receive. Her guilty plea, while strategic, also serves as an admission of the horrific acts she committed against her children. The court's decision will be closely watched, as it will set a precedent for how such egregious cases of child abuse are handled legally.
 In conclusion, the case of Ruby Franke presents a chilling narrative of how a seemingly idyllic family life can mask a reality of unimaginable abuse. It raises profound questions about the responsibility of parents, the trust we place in public figures, and the mechanisms of justice in confronting such heinous acts. The final question remains: How will the legal system balance the need for justice with the
complexities of a case that has shocked and appalled a nation?

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In a disturbing turn of events, Ruby Franke, known from the "8 Passengers" vlog on YouTube, has taken a plea deal in her child abuse case. This development raises a critical question: How does one disentangle responsibility and manipulation in such a complex scenario? Tony Brueski's podcast "Hidden Killers" recently delved into this with insights from a former FBI special agent, Robin Dreeke.
 The plea deal, as discussed by Franke's attorneys in a letter, paints a picture of a mother led astray by Jodi Hildebrandt, her alleged accomplice. The attorneys claim Franke, initially seeking self-improvement, was systematically isolated and influenced by Hildebrandt, resulting in distorted morality and heinous actions against her own children.
 The defense's narrative suggests Franke was primed for manipulation, driven by a need for validation and celebrity. Dreeke, analyzing the case, notes Franke's apparent susceptibility to Hildebrandt’s control. This raises the question of Franke's agency in her actions. Was she a willing participant or a manipulated victim? The discussion leans towards the latter, citing Franke's behavior shift coinciding with Hildebrandt’s entry into her life.
 The plea agreement includes Franke testifying against Hildebrandt, hinting at the state's perception of Hildebrandt as the more dominant figure in the abuse. Dreeke suggests that Franke’s plea deal was a tactical decision, aiming to mitigate the legal consequences while accepting responsibility. It also spares her children the ordeal of testifying against their mother in court.
 Franke's letter, as read on the podcast, asserts her regret and willingness to take responsibility. However, Dreeke points out the dual nature of such statements. Are they genuine expressions of remorse, or carefully crafted legal strategies to sway public opinion and the court's sentencing? The complexity of Franke's psychology, her possible addiction to validation, and the influence of Hildebrandt make discerning the truth challenging.
 While Franke's plea shines a light on her part in the tragedy, the full extent of Hildebrandt's involvement remains unclear. Dreeke speculates that the upcoming proceedings against Hildebrandt might reveal deeper layers of manipulation and control, possibly positioning her as the mastermind behind the abuse.
 Apart from the legal aspects, there's a profound concern for the psychological impact on Franke’s children. The constant need to perform for their mother's vlog, coupled with the abuse, likely left deep emotional scars. This aspect adds another layer to the tragedy, extending beyond the legal framework into the realm of long-term mental health.
 As the legal process unfolds, the podcast discussion ends on a note of contemplation. Will Franke’s plea lead to meaningful change and healing within her family? And what revelations might emerge from Hildebrandt's case? These questions linger, highlighting the complex intersection of legal justice, psychological trauma, and the quest for redemption in a case that has captivated and horrified the public.
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Is there a boundary to the darkness that can hide within a seemingly perfect family? The distressing case of Ruby Franke, known for her "8 Passengers" vlog on YouTube, brings this question into sharp focus. Recently, Tony Brueski's podcast "Hidden Killers" featured a discussion with a seasoned defense attorney, revealing chilling details of the case against Franke and her alleged accomplice, Jodi Hildebrandt.
 Franke's guilty plea exposed a litany of abuses so horrific they defy comprehension. The charges, ranging from physical torture like making her children do grueling exercises, denying them basic necessities, to acts of outright sadism, paint a picture of a mother whose actions were far removed from love and care. Bob Motta, a prominent defense attorney, shared his insights into the legal implications of such a plea, emphasizing the strategic necessity given the overwhelming evidence against Franke, particularly the testimonies of her own children.
 Motta's prediction for Franke's sentencing ranges between 5 to 7 years, considering her lack of criminal history and the non-fatal nature of the abuse. However, he acknowledges the psychological scars left on the children, a factor that complicates the case significantly. The discussion touches upon a critical point: while Franke's actions didn't end in physical death, the long-term mental and emotional trauma inflicted on her children could have life-altering consequences.
 The conversation also delves into the role of Jodi Hildebrandt. Speculations arise about her being the more dominant figure in the abusive dynamics, potentially influencing Franke's actions. This aspect brings a new layer of complexity to the case, suggesting a potential power imbalance and psychological manipulation at play.
 Motta underlines the difference between moral outrage and legal judgment. While the public's reaction leans towards severe punishment, reflecting the emotional and moral gravity of the case, the legal system operates within the bounds of evidence and precedent. This distinction is crucial in understanding why Franke might not receive a sentence that matches the public's expectation of justice.
 As Franke faces the consequences of her actions, attention turns to Jodi Hildebrandt, whose legal fate remains uncertain. Motta suggests that Franke's plea agreement, which includes testifying against Hildebrandt, indicates the state's belief in Hildebrandt's significant role in the abuse. This development could lead to a more severe legal outcome for Hildebrandt, should the case proceed to trial.
 The conversation also acknowledges the broader impact of the abuse, extending beyond the legal ramifications. The children's experiences, constantly documented and displayed for public consumption, add another dimension to their trauma. This constant exposure, coupled with the severe abuse, raises concerns about their long-term psychological well-being.
 In conclusion, the case of Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt is a harrowing reminder of the potential for darkness lurking behind a facade of normalcy. It challenges us to consider the fine line between legal judgment and moral accountability. As Franke awaits her sentence and Hildebrandt's legal future hangs in the balance, one can't help but wonder: how do we reconcile the law's limits with the depth of human suffering inflicted in such cases?
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Is it possible for a mother to transform from a loving caregiver to a perpetrator of torture? This haunting question lingers in the minds of many following the distressing case of Ruby Franke. Tony Brueski's latest episode of "Hidden Killers" delves into this harrowing tale with insights from Shavaun Scott, a psychotherapist and author, dissecting the shocking developments in the Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt child abuse case.
 
 Franke's plea agreement reveals a dark and twisted series of events, painting a picture of a woman far removed from the nurturing image of a mother. According to court documents, Franke subjected her children, a 12-year-old boy and a 9-year-old girl, to a horrifying array of abuses. The list begins with seemingly innocuous tasks, like wall sits and carrying boxes of books, but quickly escalates to outright torture, including working outdoors without water, serious sunburns, denial of food, and physical restraint with handcuffs and duct tape.
 
 The abuse was not just physical; Franke attempted to convince her children they were evil and possessed, needing to repent to avoid punishment. These acts of cruelty were juxtaposed with expressions of maternal love, creating a confusing and traumatic environment for the young victims.
 
 Franke's attorneys issued a letter expressing her remorse and dedication to personal growth, but Scott remains skeptical. She notes that Franke was an influencer, not someone easily influenced, suggesting that the argument of being brainwashed by Hildebrandt is far-fetched. This viewpoint is supported by Franke's plea agreement, which admits guilt for the listed crimes but falls short of detailing her responsibility in these heinous acts.
 
 The psychotherapist highlights the importance of genuine remorse and ownership of actions in such cases. The parole board, which will determine Franke's sentence, looks for acknowledgment of crimes and an understanding of where the offender veered off the moral path. However, the letter's lack of specificity and sincerity might not bode well for Franke's sentencing.
 
 Delving deeper into the root causes of such behavior, Scott suggests that Franke might have been replicating a pattern of abuse she possibly experienced as a child. She speculates that Franke's distorted parenting methods might stem from her own upbringing, where punishment and harsh treatment were normalized.
 
 As the case unfolds, it raises critical questions about the nature of evil, the impact of upbringing on parenting styles, and the capacity for change and rehabilitation. While Franke's plea agreement and her attorney's letter suggest a willingness to take responsibility, the extent of her remorse and understanding of her actions remains uncertain.
 
 This story is not just about the crimes committed but also about the journey of recovery and redemption. Can a person who has inflicted such harm truly change and make amends? As Franke's case progresses, these questions linger, leaving observers to ponder the complexities of human behavior and the potential for redemption in even the most harrowing circumstances.
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Following a court plea agreement on Wednesday, Jodi Hildebrandt's defense lawyer, Douglas Terry, addressed the press outside a courthouse in Utah. Terry explained that Hildebrandt opted for a plea deal prior to Ruby Franke's decision, aiming to spare the children from testifying. "Her primary concern is the children's healing," Terry stated. Hildebrandt is scheduled for sentencing in February.
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In a recent episode of "Hidden Killers," a debate rages over Asa Ellerup's potential Peacock Network payday, linked to her involvement in a documentary about her life as the wife of Rex Heuermann, the alleged Long Island serial killer. Host Tony Brueski, joined by former FBI Special Agent Jennifer Coffindaffer, delves into the ethical and legal implications of this controversial deal, raising questions about profiteering from crime-related stories.
 
 Asa Ellerup, entangled in her husband's notorious case, stands to earn a significant sum from a documentary produced by 50 Cent's G Unit Productions. This prospect has sparked outrage, particularly among the Long Island community and the victims' families. The documentary's approach, termed as a licensing agreement for Ellerup's image rights by Peacock, thinly veils what many perceive as a blatant attempt at monetizing tragedy.
 
 The outrage has led to proposed legislation in New York aiming to tighten the loopholes in the Son of Sam law. This law, originally designed to prevent criminals from profiting from their notoriety, may soon extend to include defendants' relatives. Attorney John Ray, advocating for the victims' families, strongly supports this amendment, citing the moral implications of allowing relatives like Ellerup to profit under such circumstances.
 
 Coffindaffer, weighing in on this development, expresses her reservations. While the law's intention might be sound, its broad application could inadvertently harm genuine victims connected to criminals. She draws parallels with Kerri Rawson, the daughter of the notorious BTK killer, who has become a vocal advocate for victims, using her traumatic experiences to help others. Rawson's case starkly contrasts with Ellerup's, whose actions have not demonstrated a similar commitment to advocacy or empathy.
 
 The discussion turns to the documentary's potential impact on the ongoing case. Coffindaffer speculates that the documentary could inadvertently lead to new evidence or leads against Rex Heuermann, given the close monitoring of Ellerup's activities and interactions. However, the ethical dilemma remains: should someone like Ellerup be allowed to profit from a situation that has caused immense pain to others?
 
 Brueski and Coffindaffer further explore the implications of such a law on individuals like Melissa Moore, daughter of the Happy Face Killer, who has also used her unfortunate family connection for advocacy. The conversation underscores the complex terrain of victim advocacy and the fine line between leveraging personal experiences for good and exploiting them for financial gain.
 
 As the debate intensifies, the question of Ellerup's true victimhood comes under scrutiny. Unlike Rawson and Moore, Ellerup's actions have been perceived as self-serving, further complicating public opinion about her role in this saga. The documentary deal, while legally permissible under current laws, raises profound moral questions about the commercialization of crime stories and the responsibilities of those involved.
 
 In conclusion, "Hidden Killers" sheds light on the challenging ethical landscape surrounding true crime storytelling. As the legal proceedings around the Son of Sam law expansion continue, the public is left to ponder the balance between storytelling, advocacy, and exploitation. The case of Asa Ellerup serves as a stark reminder of the complexities involved in narrating stories that emerge from the darkest chapters of human experience.
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In the unsettling case of Ruby Franke, a mother and YouTube personality accused of child abuse, a crucial question arises: can a parent, supposedly brainwashed, escape accountability for their actions? This was the focus of a recent episode of "Hidden Killers" with Tony Brueski, featuring insights from Jennifer Coffindaffer, a retired FBI special agent.
 Franke's legal team, Windward Law, issued a statement suggesting that Jodi Hildebrandt, Franke's alleged accomplice, manipulated and isolated Franke, leading to a "distorted sense of morality." Coffindaffer, dissecting the letter, expressed skepticism, firmly stating, "I don't buy any of it." According to Coffindaffer, the responsibility for the abuse rests solely on Franke, dismissing the notion of her being another victim in the saga.
 The plea agreement, according to Coffindaffer, might not sit well with the judge. It seems to shirk responsibility rather than owning up to the grave actions. Coffindaffer emphasized that judges typically expect genuine remorse and acknowledgment of specific wrongdoings, not generalities or blame-shifting.
 Franke's letter, while expressing regret and a desire for personal growth, fails to explicitly detail her actions. Coffindaffer described the letter as too general and lacking in sincerity, akin to a generic press release rather than a heartfelt apology.
 The discussion then turned to potential sentencing. Coffindaffer speculated that Franke might receive a relatively lenient sentence, considering the plea agreement's terms, which include the prosecution's promise not to object to future parole requests. This aspect raises concerns about the actual time Franke might serve and the consequences of her actions.
 Another critical aspect touched upon in the discussion was the future of Franke’s children. Coffindaffer pointed out that while parental rights were not part of the deal, the children's welfare remains paramount. The ideal scenario, according to Coffindaffer, would be for the children to grow up without their mother’s influence until they are old enough to decide for themselves.
 The episode highlighted the complex interplay of manipulation, responsibility, and the quest for redemption in the Franke case. While Franke’s defense portrays her as a victim of Hildebrandt’s manipulation, Coffindaffer and Brueski critically examined this narrative, questioning its sincerity and potential impact on the legal outcome.
 As the case unfolds, one can't help but ponder: Is Ruby Franke genuinely remorseful, or is this a calculated legal strategy? And importantly, what does justice look like for the children caught in this harrowing situation? These questions remain at the heart of a case that continues to grip public attention.

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Welcome to the "Week in Review," where we delve into the true stories behind this week's headlines. Your host, Tony Brueski, joins hands with a rotating roster of guests, sharing their insights and analysis on a collection of intriguing, perplexing, and often chilling stories that made the news.
    
 This is not your average news recap. With the sharp investigative lens of Tony and his guests, the show uncovers layers beneath the headlines, offering a comprehensive perspective that traditional news can often miss. From high-profile criminal trials to in-depth examinations of ongoing investigations, this podcast takes listeners on a fascinating journey through the world of true crime and current events.
    
 Each episode navigates through multiple stories, illuminating their details with factual reporting, expert commentary, and engaging conversation. Tony and his guests discuss each case's nuances, complexities, and human elements, delivering a multi-dimensional understanding to their audience.

 Whether you are a dedicated follower of true crime or an everyday listener interested in the stories shaping our world, the "Week In Review" brings you the perfect balance of intrigue, information, and intelligent conversation. Expect thoughtful analysis, informed opinions, and thought-provoking discussions beyond the 24-hour news cycle.
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Welcome to the "Week in Review," where we delve into the true stories behind this week's headlines. Your host, Tony Brueski, joins hands with a rotating roster of guests, sharing their insights and analysis on a collection of intriguing, perplexing, and often chilling stories that made the news.
    
 This is not your average news recap. With the sharp investigative lens of Tony and his guests, the show uncovers layers beneath the headlines, offering a comprehensive perspective that traditional news can often miss. From high-profile criminal trials to in-depth examinations of ongoing investigations, this podcast takes listeners on a fascinating journey through the world of true crime and current events.
    
 Each episode navigates through multiple stories, illuminating their details with factual reporting, expert commentary, and engaging conversation. Tony and his guests discuss each case's nuances, complexities, and human elements, delivering a multi-dimensional understanding to their audience.

 Whether you are a dedicated follower of true crime or an everyday listener interested in the stories shaping our world, the "Week In Review" brings you the perfect balance of intrigue, information, and intelligent conversation. Expect thoughtful analysis, informed opinions, and thought-provoking discussions beyond the 24-hour news cycle.
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Welcome to the "Week in Review," where we delve into the true stories behind this week's headlines. Your host, Tony Brueski, joins hands with a rotating roster of guests, sharing their insights and analysis on a collection of intriguing, perplexing, and often chilling stories that made the news.
    
 This is not your average news recap. With the sharp investigative lens of Tony and his guests, the show uncovers layers beneath the headlines, offering a comprehensive perspective that traditional news can often miss. From high-profile criminal trials to in-depth examinations of ongoing investigations, this podcast takes listeners on a fascinating journey through the world of true crime and current events.
    
 Each episode navigates through multiple stories, illuminating their details with factual reporting, expert commentary, and engaging conversation. Tony and his guests discuss each case's nuances, complexities, and human elements, delivering a multi-dimensional understanding to their audience.

 Whether you are a dedicated follower of true crime or an everyday listener interested in the stories shaping our world, the "Week In Review" brings you the perfect balance of intrigue, information, and intelligent conversation. Expect thoughtful analysis, informed opinions, and thought-provoking discussions beyond the 24-hour news cycle.
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Could a mother and her mentor, once trusted with the care and guidance of children, be responsible for their abuse? This troubling question has been answered in the case of Ruby Franke, a parenting YouTuber, and her business partner Jodi Hildebrandt. Both women have been sentenced to four consecutive prison terms each, following guilty pleas to child abuse charges.

The case came to light after one of Franke's children fled Hildebrandt's residence in August, seeking help from a neighbor. Franke, known for her "8 Passengers" YouTube channel, and Hildebrandt, who ran ConneXions Classroom, faced six counts of aggravated child abuse, with each count carrying a possible prison term of one to 15 years and a fine of up to $10,000.

During sentencing, state prosecutor Eric Clarke likened the environment Franke's children endured to a "concentration camp-like setting," describing Franke's actions as "horrible acts of child abuse." Clarke also labeled Hildebrandt a "significant threat" to the community. In court, Franke acknowledged her guilt and expressed gratitude to the officials who rescued her children. She agreed to testify against Hildebrandt as part of her plea deal.

Hildebrandt's plea agreement revealed her awareness and participation in the abuse. Disturbingly, it included forcing Franke's daughter to repeatedly jump into a cactus and detailed other heinous acts of torture.

Franke's family, including her husband Kevin Franke, who has filed for divorce, has been left to grapple with the aftermath. Kevin's lawyer stated his focus on keeping the children together and under his care. In a recent court appearance, Ruby Franke apologized to her former husband, calling the end of their marriage a "tragedy."

Statements from Franke's family, including her brother Beau Griffiths, suggest Hildebrandt's manipulative influence over Franke. Griffiths, himself a former participant in Hildebrandt's program, accused Hildebrandt of brainwashing his sister.

The sentencing marks the end of a harrowing chapter for the Franke family and raises serious questions about the influence and responsibility of those in positions of trust. As Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt face the consequences of their actions, one wonders: How did such a trusted figure in parenting guidance fall so far from grace?
 
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Could a mother and her mentor, once trusted with the care and guidance of children, be responsible for their abuse? This troubling question has been answered in the case of Ruby Franke, a parenting YouTuber, and her business partner Jodi Hildebrandt. Both women have been sentenced to four consecutive prison terms each, following guilty pleas to child abuse charges.

The case came to light after one of Franke's children fled Hildebrandt's residence in August, seeking help from a neighbor. Franke, known for her "8 Passengers" YouTube channel, and Hildebrandt, who ran ConneXions Classroom, faced six counts of aggravated child abuse, with each count carrying a possible prison term of one to 15 years and a fine of up to $10,000.

During sentencing, state prosecutor Eric Clarke likened the environment Franke's children endured to a "concentration camp-like setting," describing Franke's actions as "horrible acts of child abuse." Clarke also labeled Hildebrandt a "significant threat" to the community. In court, Franke acknowledged her guilt and expressed gratitude to the officials who rescued her children. She agreed to testify against Hildebrandt as part of her plea deal.

Hildebrandt's plea agreement revealed her awareness and participation in the abuse. Disturbingly, it included forcing Franke's daughter to repeatedly jump into a cactus and detailed other heinous acts of torture.

Franke's family, including her husband Kevin Franke, who has filed for divorce, has been left to grapple with the aftermath. Kevin's lawyer stated his focus on keeping the children together and under his care. In a recent court appearance, Ruby Franke apologized to her former husband, calling the end of their marriage a "tragedy."

Statements from Franke's family, including her brother Beau Griffiths, suggest Hildebrandt's manipulative influence over Franke. Griffiths, himself a former participant in Hildebrandt's program, accused Hildebrandt of brainwashing his sister.

The sentencing marks the end of a harrowing chapter for the Franke family and raises serious questions about the influence and responsibility of those in positions of trust. As Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt face the consequences of their actions, one wonders: How did such a trusted figure in parenting guidance fall so far from grace?
 
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Welcome to the "Week in Review," where we delve into the true stories behind this week's headlines. Your host, Tony Brueski, joins hands with a rotating roster of guests, sharing their insights and analysis on a collection of intriguing, perplexing, and often chilling stories that made the news.
    
 This is not your average news recap. With the sharp investigative lens of Tony and his guests, the show uncovers layers beneath the headlines, offering a comprehensive perspective that traditional news can often miss. From high-profile criminal trials to in-depth examinations of ongoing investigations, this podcast takes listeners on a fascinating journey through the world of true crime and current events.
    
 Each episode navigates through multiple stories, illuminating their details with factual reporting, expert commentary, and engaging conversation. Tony and his guests discuss each case's nuances, complexities, and human elements, delivering a multi-dimensional understanding to their audience. 

 Whether you are a dedicated follower of true crime or an everyday listener interested in the stories shaping our world, the "Week In Review" brings you the perfect balance of intrigue, information, and intelligent conversation. Expect thoughtful analysis, informed opinions, and thought-provoking discussions beyond the 24-hour news cycle. 
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Welcome to the "Week in Review," where we delve into the true stories behind this week's headlines. Your host, Tony Brueski, joins hands with a rotating roster of guests, sharing their insights and analysis on a collection of intriguing, perplexing, and often chilling stories that made the news.
    
 This is not your average news recap. With the sharp investigative lens of Tony and his guests, the show uncovers layers beneath the headlines, offering a comprehensive perspective that traditional news can often miss. From high-profile criminal trials to in-depth examinations of ongoing investigations, this podcast takes listeners on a fascinating journey through the world of true crime and current events.
    
 Each episode navigates through multiple stories, illuminating their details with factual reporting, expert commentary, and engaging conversation. Tony and his guests discuss each case's nuances, complexities, and human elements, delivering a multi-dimensional understanding to their audience. 

 Whether you are a dedicated follower of true crime or an everyday listener interested in the stories shaping our world, the "Week In Review" brings you the perfect balance of intrigue, information, and intelligent conversation. Expect thoughtful analysis, informed opinions, and thought-provoking discussions beyond the 24-hour news cycle. 
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Were they both guilty, or was one truly the mastermind? Retired FBI Special Agent Robin Dreeke joins host Tony Brueski to weigh in on the shocking case of Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt. After a Utah judge ruled both women receive 15-year consecutive sentences for their horrific abuse of children, complex questions linger.

Was Franke vulnerable, easily manipulated, and truly capable of rehabilitation?   Dreeke unpacks the possibility of religious extremism contributing to Frankie's crimes.  How did this family become so broken, and was this harsh punishment justified?

Hildebrandt, the charismatic counselor, faces the same sentence. Did she truly care about the children she abused, or were her claims of love all part of her act? Dreeke analyzes Hildebrandt's courtroom conduct and whether her lack of remorse signals a dangerous sociopath.

This fascinating case raises serious questions about accountability, manipulation, and potential for change. Don't miss this thought-provoking discussion.
 
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 This episode of Hidden Killers dives into the sentencing of Mormon mommy bloggers Ruby Frankie and Jody Hildebrandt, who were convicted of child abuse. Host Tony Brueski is joined by former Felony Prosecutor and attorney Eric Faddis to dissect the details of the case and the sentencing process.

Key points discussed:

Sentencing: Both Frankie and Hildebrandt received 4 consecutive 15-year sentences, with the possibility of parole after serving 1 year per sentence. Faddis explains how the final sentence length will be determined by the prison system based on factors like behavior and good time credits.
Plea Deal: The defendants opted for a plea deal to avoid a trial and potentially spare the victims further trauma. Faddis analyzes the strategic move and its potential benefits in terms of reduced sentencing.
Accountability: While both received the same sentence, the discussion delves into whether Frankie, as the alleged ringleader, deserved harsher punishment.
Rehabilitation: Faddis expresses optimism for rehabilitation but questions the depth of change possible after such extreme behavior.
Protecting Children: The episode concludes with the hope that Frankie and Hildebrandt will be kept away from children for an extended period.
Overall, this episode offers a nuanced look at the complexities of the case, the legal aspects of sentencing, and the ongoing challenges of child abuse.
 
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Ruby Frankie and Jody Hildebrandt finally sentenced – but was it enough?

After shocking the world with their horrific child abuse, Ruby Frankie and Jody Hildebrandt have been handed prison sentences of up to 60 years each.  But is this justice for their crimes? On this episode of Hidden Killers, Tony Brueski brings in retired FBI Special Agent Jennifer Coffindaffer to dissect the sentencing and the lingering questions the case raises.

“I was happy to see the 60-year exposure...both of these were sentenced to the same sentence. Do you think that was fair?” Brueski probes.

Coffindaffer raises a crucial point:  as the children's mother, did Ruby deserve even harsher punishment than her co-conspirator, Jody?  The discussion explores the chilling dynamic between abuser and abused, questioning both women's roles in the horrific crimes.

The hosts analyze the apologies made in court.  Was Ruby truly remorseful when she said, "I am committed to unlearning my toxic behavior"?  Can such monstrous behavior ever truly be unlearned, or are they both capable of repeating these horrors?

"She’s capable of this and much more... I think he should be held responsible to a degree as well," Coffindaffer remarks regarding Kevin, Ruby's husband. Might he also be culpable?

The episode delves into chilling details from the Eight Passengers videos and police interactions, highlighting the pattern of abuse that likely escalated behind closed doors.

Were Ruby and Jody stopped only because they got caught?  Would they still be abusing these children if not for the intervention?

Join this haunting discussion on Hidden Killers and grapple with the uncomfortable questions this disturbing case raises.
 
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In this riveting episode of "Hidden Killers," host Tony Brueski is joined by the insightful Bob Motta, a defense attorney and the host of "Defense Diaries," to dissect the complex and emotionally charged case of Ruby Frankie and Jodi Hildebrandt. Charged with the abuse of Frankie's children, both women have been sentenced to one to 15 years in prison for their heinous acts, with four consecutive sentences each. This episode promises to unravel the layers of this tragic story, providing a nuanced understanding of the legal and emotional aspects of the case.

Motta, with his legal expertise, offers a critical perspective on the sentencing, discussing the broad range of potential years the accused could serve and the role of parole boards in determining the final sentence length. He questions the sincerity of the apologies issued by Frankie and Hildebrandt, emphasizing the lack of humanity and remorse shown during the abuse. Motta and Brueski delve into the severity of the sentence, arguing that such a harsh penalty is fitting for the grave nature of the abuse committed.

The episode also explores the wider implications of the case, considering the psychological and physical damage inflicted on the children and the lasting impact of such trauma. They discuss the possibility of rehabilitation for the accused and the legal system's role in ensuring justice is served while addressing the needs of the victims.

Additionally, the podcast touches on the intriguing aspect of Kevin Franke, Ruby's husband, and his potential accountability in the case. Motta weighs in on the complexities surrounding Franke's involvement, or lack thereof, in the abuse, and whether his actions, or inactions, could be deemed complicit.

Listeners can expect a deep and thoughtful exploration of this harrowing case, guided by Brueski's probing questions and Motta's legal acumen. This episode of "Hidden Killers" is a must-listen for those interested in criminal law, child welfare, and the intricacies of high-profile abuse cases.
 
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On the chilling podcast Hidden Killers, Tony Brueski and Bob Motta delve into the disturbing case of Ruby Frankie, a mother sentenced to prison for shocking acts of abuse against her children.  In this episode, they explore the question of whether convicted cult leader and self-help guru Jodi Hildebrandt may have played a role in the horrific abuse Ruby inflicted.

“I mean, how do you unlearn something like that? Once you go so far down the road, why now are you seeing the errors in your ways?”  – Tony Brueski

Defense attorney Bob Motta weighs in,  offering his legal perspective on the case: *“I don’t think prison rehabilitates, but people can be rehabilitated in prison.  They have resources, but they don’t force you to take them...” *

The hosts debate whether Ruby was truly a victim of manipulation or whether she holds ultimate responsibility for the crimes she committed. Brueski and Motta consider the psychological damage inflicted by those like Jodi Hildebrandt, drawing on the real-life experiences of individuals who escaped her control.

*“Do I think that Ruby will come out in 20 or 30 years, whenever she’s going to get out, and become an abusive monster again? No…I think she’s feeling the full weight of it right now.” * – Bob Motta

In a case filled with darkness, Hidden Killers seeks to understand how the path to abuse is forged. Was Ruby always capable of this, or is there more to the story? Did desperation make her susceptible to influence by an evil outsider? Does a chance of redemption exist in the aftermath of such horrific crimes?
 
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Is Ruby Frankie a calculating monster, or a victim of the same distorted beliefs that fueled her crimes?

On this episode of "Hidden Killers", Tony Brueski and former defense attorney Lori Hellis analyze the sentencing of "Mormon mommy blogger" Ruby Frankie. She and her accomplice, Jody Hildebrandt, face a wide range of possible prison time (four to 60 years) with the decision ultimately resting with the parole board.

Lori shares her prediction, noting that Hildebrandt, as a former therapist, likely bears greater responsibility in the eyes of the public.  They debate whether Ruby, as the mother, is in some ways more culpable for the horrific abuse of her own children than the outside influence of Hildebrandt.

Lori's recent work on the Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell case offers chilling context. She highlights how Ruby's paranoia about hospitals and law enforcement aligns with deeply held beliefs among certain fringe groups within the LDS Church.

Closing Question:  To what extent should Ruby Frankie's susceptibility to "doomsday prophecy" beliefs mitigate the severity of her crimes?
 
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Is a convincing apology enough to earn early release? Could convicted child abusers Ruby Frankie and Jody Hildebrandt manipulate their way out of prison?

On this episode of "Hidden Killers", Tony Brueski and psychotherapist Shavaun Scott dissect the sentencing of Ruby Frankie and Jody Hildebrandt. Sentenced to four to sixty years for their horrific abuse, their ultimate fate rests in the hands of the parole board.

Shavaun analyzes Ruby Frankie's courtroom statement, calling it a "coached response" aimed at manipulating the system. Tony questions if parole boards are easily swayed by such performances, or if genuine remorse can be faked.

The discussion then turns to Jody Hildebrandt's claim that she "sincerely loved these children," a statement Shavaun links to the narcissistic tendencies often found in cult leaders.

With the possibility of release looming, the podcast delves into the chilling question of whether these women pose a continued threat to the public. Could they resurface under new identities, preying on the vulnerable once again?

Closing Question:  How do we protect ourselves and our communities from those who mask their monstrous behavior behind a facade of love and concern?
 
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Why does the LDS Church seem like fertile ground for extremist groups preaching distorted beliefs, leading to horrific outcomes like child abuse?

On this episode of "Hidden Killers", Tony Brueski and former defense attorney Lori Hellis delve into the alarming pattern of "doomsday" groups emerging from within the LDS Church. Lori emphasizes the cultural insularity that contributes to the vulnerability of some members when confronted with charismatic leaders and distorted interpretations of doctrine.

They discuss how seemingly normal, everyday people can be susceptible: "If the mainstream doctrine is 12 o'clock, the doctrines that the doomsday folks are embracing are really about 12:01." Lori's insights from her work on the Lori Vallow case further illuminate the chilling mindset of parents who justify abuse as preparing their children for the apocalypse.

The conversation also touches on the potential for a major schism within the LDS Church, as a conservative faction seeks to return to a more fundamentalist version of Joseph Smith's teachings.

Closing Question: How can we understand the risks within close-knit religious communities, and prevent future tragedies fueled by extremist ideology?
 
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In a chilling revelation of the fractured dynamics within the Franke family, Chad Franke, the eldest son of disgraced YouTube personality Ruby Franke, expressed his delight at her imprisonment for child abuse. The 19-year-old's unbridled joy was captured in a now-deleted TikTok video, shared by his girlfriend, just days before Ruby and her former business partner, Jodi Hildebrandt, were sentenced for the harrowing torture endured by Ruby's six children.

The sentencing, meted out by a judge, mandated the terms of their plea agreement – four counts of one to 15 years, served consecutively, leading to a maximum sentence of 30 years due to Utah law. Despite the severity of her sentence, Ruby, aged 42, has chosen not to appeal her imprisonment, signaling a somber acceptance of her fate.

Chad's apparent elation was palpable as he exited the courthouse following his estranged mother's sentencing. Ruby, in a poignant moment during the hearing, emotionally addressed her children, apologizing for the anguish she caused them. "I will never stop crying for hurting your tender souls. You’re so precious to me. I’m sorry," she expressed tearfully, acknowledging the deep pain inflicted upon her offspring.

Prior to her arrest in August 2023, Ruby had been estranged from Chad and her eldest daughter, Shari, as a result of the abuse they endured. Concerns about the Franke children first arose after unsettling content surfaced in the family's YouTube videos, prompting a visit from Child Protective Services. Despite the visit, authorities closed the case, much to the dismay of concerned onlookers.

Shari, Ruby's 20-year-old daughter, expressed relief at her mother's incarceration, underscoring the family's long-standing struggle for justice. Ruby's four minor children remain under state care, while her estranged husband seeks guardianship over their 16-year-old daughter, Abby.

In a startling admission, Ruby, who had vehemently denied allegations of abuse, confessed to torturing her children in her plea agreement. Details of the plea painted a grim picture of the abuse endured by her offspring, including suffocation, physical restraints, and other forms of torment.

As the Franke family grapples with the aftermath of Ruby's conviction and imprisonment, the harrowing saga sheds light on the enduring trauma inflicted by domestic abuse and the quest for justice in its wake. Amidst the somber proceedings, Chad's celebratory response serves as a stark reminder of the profound wounds left by familial betrayal and the long road to healing ahead.

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Welcome to the "Week in Review," where we delve into the true stories behind this week's headlines. Your host, Tony Brueski, joins hands with a rotating roster of guests, sharing their insights and analysis on a collection of intriguing, perplexing, and often chilling stories that made the news.
    
 This is not your average news recap. With the sharp investigative lens of Tony and his guests, the show uncovers layers beneath the headlines, offering a comprehensive perspective that traditional news can often miss. From high-profile criminal trials to in-depth examinations of ongoing investigations, this podcast takes listeners on a fascinating journey through the world of true crime and current events.
    
 Each episode navigates through multiple stories, illuminating their details with factual reporting, expert commentary, and engaging conversation. Tony and his guests discuss each case's nuances, complexities, and human elements, delivering a multi-dimensional understanding to their audience. 

 Whether you are a dedicated follower of true crime or an everyday listener interested in the stories shaping our world, the "Week In Review" brings you the perfect balance of intrigue, information, and intelligent conversation. Expect thoughtful analysis, informed opinions, and thought-provoking discussions beyond the 24-hour news cycle. 
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The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK’s Unconfessed Crimes, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com 

Welcome to the "Week in Review," where we delve into the true stories behind this week's headlines. Your host, Tony Brueski, joins hands with a rotating roster of guests, sharing their insights and analysis on a collection of intriguing, perplexing, and often chilling stories that made the news.
    
 This is not your average news recap. With the sharp investigative lens of Tony and his guests, the show uncovers layers beneath the headlines, offering a comprehensive perspective that traditional news can often miss. From high-profile criminal trials to in-depth examinations of ongoing investigations, this podcast takes listeners on a fascinating journey through the world of true crime and current events.
    
 Each episode navigates through multiple stories, illuminating their details with factual reporting, expert commentary, and engaging conversation. Tony and his guests discuss each case's nuances, complexities, and human elements, delivering a multi-dimensional understanding to their audience. 

 Whether you are a dedicated follower of true crime or an everyday listener interested in the stories shaping our world, the "Week In Review" brings you the perfect balance of intrigue, information, and intelligent conversation. Expect thoughtful analysis, informed opinions, and thought-provoking discussions beyond the 24-hour news cycle. 
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The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK’s Unconfessed Crimes, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com 

Welcome to the "Week in Review," where we delve into the true stories behind this week's headlines. Your host, Tony Brueski, joins hands with a rotating roster of guests, sharing their insights and analysis on a collection of intriguing, perplexing, and often chilling stories that made the news.
    
 This is not your average news recap. With the sharp investigative lens of Tony and his guests, the show uncovers layers beneath the headlines, offering a comprehensive perspective that traditional news can often miss. From high-profile criminal trials to in-depth examinations of ongoing investigations, this podcast takes listeners on a fascinating journey through the world of true crime and current events.
    
 Each episode navigates through multiple stories, illuminating their details with factual reporting, expert commentary, and engaging conversation. Tony and his guests discuss each case's nuances, complexities, and human elements, delivering a multi-dimensional understanding to their audience. 

 Whether you are a dedicated follower of true crime or an everyday listener interested in the stories shaping our world, the "Week In Review" brings you the perfect balance of intrigue, information, and intelligent conversation. Expect thoughtful analysis, informed opinions, and thought-provoking discussions beyond the 24-hour news cycle. 
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The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK’s Unconfessed Crimes, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com 

Welcome to the "Week in Review," where we delve into the true stories behind this week's headlines. Your host, Tony Brueski, joins hands with a rotating roster of guests, sharing their insights and analysis on a collection of intriguing, perplexing, and often chilling stories that made the news.
    
 This is not your average news recap. With the sharp investigative lens of Tony and his guests, the show uncovers layers beneath the headlines, offering a comprehensive perspective that traditional news can often miss. From high-profile criminal trials to in-depth examinations of ongoing investigations, this podcast takes listeners on a fascinating journey through the world of true crime and current events.
    
 Each episode navigates through multiple stories, illuminating their details with factual reporting, expert commentary, and engaging conversation. Tony and his guests discuss each case's nuances, complexities, and human elements, delivering a multi-dimensional understanding to their audience. 

 Whether you are a dedicated follower of true crime or an everyday listener interested in the stories shaping our world, the "Week In Review" brings you the perfect balance of intrigue, information, and intelligent conversation. Expect thoughtful analysis, informed opinions, and thought-provoking discussions beyond the 24-hour news cycle. 
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The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK’s Unconfessed Crimes, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com 

Welcome to the "Week in Review," where we delve into the true stories behind this week's headlines. Your host, Tony Brueski, joins hands with a rotating roster of guests, sharing their insights and analysis on a collection of intriguing, perplexing, and often chilling stories that made the news.
    
 This is not your average news recap. With the sharp investigative lens of Tony and his guests, the show uncovers layers beneath the headlines, offering a comprehensive perspective that traditional news can often miss. From high-profile criminal trials to in-depth examinations of ongoing investigations, this podcast takes listeners on a fascinating journey through the world of true crime and current events.
    
 Each episode navigates through multiple stories, illuminating their details with factual reporting, expert commentary, and engaging conversation. Tony and his guests discuss each case's nuances, complexities, and human elements, delivering a multi-dimensional understanding to their audience. 

 Whether you are a dedicated follower of true crime or an everyday listener interested in the stories shaping our world, the "Week In Review" brings you the perfect balance of intrigue, information, and intelligent conversation. Expect thoughtful analysis, informed opinions, and thought-provoking discussions beyond the 24-hour news cycle. 
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The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK’s Unconfessed Crimes, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com 

In this compelling and heart-wrenching podcast series, listeners are given a unique and intimate insight into the case of Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt, who both faced and pleaded guilty to six counts of aggravated child abuse. Through a collection of 'Jail House' phone calls, the series delves deep into the emotions, thoughts, and conversations between the two as they navigate the complexities of their legal battles and personal reckonings. These phone calls, raw and unfiltered, shed light on the gravity of their actions, the impact on their victims, and the tumultuous journey of coming to terms with the consequences of their crimes. As the series progresses, it not only explores the legal aspects of the case but also the human elements of remorse, accountability, and the difficult path towards redemption. This podcast does not shy away from the darker aspects of human behavior, instead offering a nuanced exploration of what leads individuals down such a harrowing path and the possibility of change amidst profound adversity.
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The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK’s Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

In this compelling and heart-wrenching podcast series, listeners are given a unique and intimate insight into the case of Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt, who both faced and pleaded guilty to six counts of aggravated child abuse. Through a collection of 'Jail House' phone calls, the series delves deep into the emotions, thoughts, and conversations between the two as they navigate the complexities of their legal battles and personal reckonings. These phone calls, raw and unfiltered, shed light on the gravity of their actions, the impact on their victims, and the tumultuous journey of coming to terms with the consequences of their crimes. As the series progresses, it not only explores the legal aspects of the case but also the human elements of remorse, accountability, and the difficult path towards redemption. This podcast does not shy away from the darker aspects of human behavior, instead offering a nuanced exploration of what leads individuals down such a harrowing path and the possibility of change amidst profound adversity.
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The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK’s Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

In this compelling and heart-wrenching podcast series, listeners are given a unique and intimate insight into the case of Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt, who both faced and pleaded guilty to six counts of aggravated child abuse. Through a collection of 'Jail House' phone calls, the series delves deep into the emotions, thoughts, and conversations between the two as they navigate the complexities of their legal battles and personal reckonings. These phone calls, raw and unfiltered, shed light on the gravity of their actions, the impact on their victims, and the tumultuous journey of coming to terms with the consequences of their crimes. As the series progresses, it not only explores the legal aspects of the case but also the human elements of remorse, accountability, and the difficult path towards redemption. This podcast does not shy away from the darker aspects of human behavior, instead offering a nuanced exploration of what leads individuals down such a harrowing path and the possibility of change amidst profound adversity.
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The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK’s Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

In this compelling and heart-wrenching podcast series, listeners are given a unique and intimate insight into the case of Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt, who both faced and pleaded guilty to six counts of aggravated child abuse. Through a collection of 'Jail House' phone calls, the series delves deep into the emotions, thoughts, and conversations between the two as they navigate the complexities of their legal battles and personal reckonings. These phone calls, raw and unfiltered, shed light on the gravity of their actions, the impact on their victims, and the tumultuous journey of coming to terms with the consequences of their crimes. As the series progresses, it not only explores the legal aspects of the case but also the human elements of remorse, accountability, and the difficult path towards redemption. This podcast does not shy away from the darker aspects of human behavior, instead offering a nuanced exploration of what leads individuals down such a harrowing path and the possibility of change amidst profound adversity.
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The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK’s Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

The Washington County Attorney’s Office has unveiled a trove of videos and documents shedding light on the harrowing child abuse case involving popular parent blogger Ruby Franke. From diaries to disturbing videos, the evidence paints a grim picture of the abuse inflicted upon Franke's children and the religious fervor that allegedly fueled it.

Franke, alongside her business partner Jodi Hildebrandt, faced charges related to the aggravated abuse of Franke's children, a case that unfolded with shocking revelations and subsequent legal action.

In the newly released documents, prosecutors underscore the role of "religious extremism" as a driving force behind the abuse perpetrated by Franke and Hildebrandt. Franke's handwritten diary entries chronicle months of torment inflicted upon her children, detailing tactics such as withholding food and oxygen, forcing outdoor confinement, and inflicting physical harm.

One particularly distressing video, released by the attorney’s office, captures Franke's 12-year-old son, malnourished and wounded, seeking help from a neighbor after escaping confinement. The footage offers a stark glimpse into the dire circumstances endured by the children.

Additionally, jailhouse calls between Franke and her estranged husband, Kevin Franke, reveal the emotional turmoil and denial that characterized the aftermath of her arrest. In a poignant exchange, Ruby attributes her predicament to the influence of evil forces, lamenting the loss of everything she holds dear.

"Satan has taken everything away from me that I love," Ruby expressed in one call, reflecting on her plight from behind bars. Her husband, Kevin, responded with reassurance, vowing to uphold truth within their family amidst the turmoil.

The case culminated in sentencing for Franke and Hildebrandt, with each facing prison terms for their roles in the abuse. Despite Franke's pleas and denials, evidence presented by prosecutors painted a grim portrait of the suffering endured by her children, underscoring the gravity of the charges.

As the details of the case continue to emerge, the community grapples with the implications of such egregious abuse and the pursuit of justice for the victims. The Washington County Attorney’s Office remains steadfast in its commitment to transparency and accountability, providing a sobering glimpse into the dark realities of child abuse and the quest for closure in its aftermath.
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The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK’s Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

In this compelling and heart-wrenching podcast series, listeners are given a unique and intimate insight into the case of Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt, who both faced and pleaded guilty to six counts of aggravated child abuse. Through a collection of 'Jail House' phone calls, the series delves deep into the emotions, thoughts, and conversations between the two as they navigate the complexities of their legal battles and personal reckonings. These phone calls, raw and unfiltered, shed light on the gravity of their actions, the impact on their victims, and the tumultuous journey of coming to terms with the consequences of their crimes. As the series progresses, it not only explores the legal aspects of the case but also the human elements of remorse, accountability, and the difficult path towards redemption. This podcast does not shy away from the darker aspects of human behavior, instead offering a nuanced exploration of what leads individuals down such a harrowing path and the possibility of change amidst profound adversity.
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The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK’s Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

In this compelling and heart-wrenching podcast series, listeners are given a unique and intimate insight into the case of Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt, who both faced and pleaded guilty to six counts of aggravated child abuse. Through a collection of 'Jail House' phone calls, the series delves deep into the emotions, thoughts, and conversations between the two as they navigate the complexities of their legal battles and personal reckonings. These phone calls, raw and unfiltered, shed light on the gravity of their actions, the impact on their victims, and the tumultuous journey of coming to terms with the consequences of their crimes. As the series progresses, it not only explores the legal aspects of the case but also the human elements of remorse, accountability, and the difficult path towards redemption. This podcast does not shy away from the darker aspects of human behavior, instead offering a nuanced exploration of what leads individuals down such a harrowing path and the possibility of change amidst profound adversity.
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The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK’s Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com