Legacy Podcast (Legacy)

While unstable families make for a more dramatic story, ordinary, hard-working dads are not celebrated as they ought to be.

Join Andy Lamberton as he chats with Spud Murphy (director of RUMbLE), about why we need fathers today.

Reflection article from the episode written by co-host Stephen Mullan available here.

Helpful Links

RUMbLE website
Watch a 2 Minute Video explaining Legacy, a ministry for fathers.

In our second episode of the Legacy Podcast, Graeme Thompson talks about how dads can move forward from failure.

Reflection article from the episode written by co-host Stephen Mullan available at www.legacyfathers.org.

"We can’t prepare our kids for every eventuality. So much about fatherhood is unexpected. There will be challenges our children encounter that we simply can’t forecast. But then again, the job is to be a good parent, not a good prophet."

Join co-hosts Andy Lamberton and Stephen Mullan as they chat with David Smyth and Dawn McAvoy from Evangelical Alliance and Both Lives Matter.

Related article, notes and links here:


https://www.legacyfathers.org/fathers-and-the-unexpected-with-david-smyth-and-dawn-mcavoy-legacy-podcast-s1e3/

“As men, there is a temptation to become either wasters or workaholics. Instead, may we learn to see each day as an opportunity.”

Join co-hosts Andy Lamberton and Stephen Mullan as they chat with Austin Mackintosh - father to six!

Reflection article available here.

Other Links

• Receive inspirational emails for Christian Fathers
• 2 Minute Video explaining Legacy
• The Tail End Blog post

“When our children see us wholeheartedly share in their laughter and dances, they will more readily trust us with their tears and concerns.”Join co-hosts Andy Lamberton and Stephen Mullan as they chat with Sam Balmer from Bible Education Services (PBS).

We need to apologise for the audio quality of this episode. The mic settings were off, and we were in the wrong type of room. Forgive us - we’re still learning how to do this! This is no reflection on the content, Sam has nuggets of gold!

Related article, by co-host Stephen Mullan - here.

Links

• Read Jeff Gawn’s Article on Family Worship
• Register your children for Postal Bible School with Bible Education Services
• Join Legacy’s email list.Visit the Legacy website.

“Should I do Catechisms with my children? and what even does that look like?”Join co-hosts Andy Lamberton and Stephen Mullan as they chat with Pete Wright from Growing Young Disciples about Raising Kids for Christ in a Confusion World.

Companion article, by co-host Andy Lamberton - here.

Links

• Growing Young Disciples - Raising Kids for Christ in a Confusing World
• New City Catechism
• Join Legacy’s email list.

'Disciple-makers are first of all disciples. They are ordinary people like my mum and dad. My mum was a disciple of Jesus, carefully disguised as a care home assistant. My dad, a caretaker at a primary school.' Jim Brown

For season 2, we have three round tables: 1. Disciple Making Fathers, 2. Raising Sons Today, and 3. Raising Daughters Today. We’re delighted to have Jim Brown, Chris Agnew and Peter Munce kicking off our first episode with - Disciple Making Fathers.

In this episode, we talk about:

• What it means to be a disciple-maker
• Learning from the Ultimate Father
• The 4 roles of a father
• The gift of fatherhood
• Discipling young children
• How the church can support disciple-making fathers
• Where to start?
• What we want our children to know before they are 18

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Legacy is a ministry for fathers from Exodus - we provide programmes for churches to help faith and fatherhood thrive.

“Fatherhood is a journey punctuated by moments”. Paul Paynter says that on our podcast - so he does! The journey and the moments. As dads, we need to keep both in mind.

Co-Hosts Andy and Stephen are joined on the Legacy Podcast by David McGinty, David Penney, Paul Paynter, Paul Decock and a young man called Nathaniel to have a round table on Raising Sons Today.

Here’s our summary.

What we do over the long run will greatly influence our sons. They will notice our priorities. They will be shaped by the atmosphere we create. And they will, in large part, follow our model of masculinity.

But moments will also have a defining influence on our sons. Decisions around tech. Trips abroad. A conversation about girls late at night. How we mark key milestones is something intentional fathers think about. All of these moments have the potential of deeply shaping our sons’ lives. Moments, though, can be easily missed. In Jon Tyson’s Book - The Intentional Father he says: “So much of our lives is defined by moments. Moments of wonder, moments of heartache, moments of accomplishment, moments of regret. An intentional father is aware of the power of moments and works hard in advance to create life-changing ones.”

In this episode we cover both the journey and the moments. We hope you enjoy the conversation as much as we did.

This is a wild ride and we talk about:

• raising sons in the digital world
• lies and honesty
• dangers and duties
• seizing moments
• vision and intention
• prioritising worship
• loving your wife
• influencing the atmosphere
• the thousand-mile stare
• working from home
• what boys need
• modelling faith
• challenging boys
• should I give my son a phone?
• what’s the difference between raising a son or a daughter
• words for a father whose son has rebelled

Links:

www.legacyfathers.org
The Intentional Father by Jon Tyson
https://christianheritagelondon.org/walks
https://boysbrigadeni.org/

“To have a father who delights in knowing and loving them is one of the greatest blessings any girl can have.”

In the third and final ‘square-table’ conversation, Andy and Stephen are joined by Jonny McKane and Evan Reid, to talk about raising daughters today.

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Reflection from Stephen:

We can sometimes fight against the reality that our daughters will one day become women and will leave home. As Andy says near the end of this episode: “I don’t want my daughter to change!”

Who relates? I know I want my one and half year old daughter to forever stay small, cute and slightly squidgy!

At the heart of this feeling is a mix of love and joy. Yet, what I learned in this conversation was that the loving, joyful relationship between a father and his daughter is foundational and formative in her journey to womanhood.

Of course, there is much we need to think about as we raise our girls (and we cover a lot in this episode), but never underestimate the place of joy.

To have a father who delights in knowing and loving them is one of the greatest blessings any girl can have.

In this conversation we talk about:

• The joys of being a father to a daughter
• How we can exasperate them
• Hopes and fears as your daughter grows from girl to woman
• How a father-daughter relationship changes over time
• Journeying with the emotions of your daughter
• Not being scared to speak
• Cherishing her now while preparing her for the future

Two songs for fathers with Daughters

1. Be kind to yourself - by Andrew Peterson
   A song from a father to a teenage daughter.
   We challenge any father to watch this video and have dry eyes at the end.
   V2
   "I know it’s hard to hear it when the anger in your spirit is pointed like an arrow to your chest.
   When the voices in your mind are anything but kind, and you can’t believe your father knows best.
   I love you just the way that you are, I love the way He made your precious heart.
   Be kind to yourself"
2. Banks - By NEEDTOBREATHE
   A song about caring without controlling.
   Chorus:
   "I want to hold you close, but never hold you back.
   Like the banks of a river"

Between Series 2 and Series 3, we've got three solo episodes.

1. Meet Andy and Stephen
2. The impact of a father – Alf Thompson's story
3. "And he will turn the hearts of fathers" with Willie Paterson

Meet Andy and Stephen

Ever wondered who Andy and Stephen are? what their story is? Nope? - well then you can skip.
But if you want to meet the hosts of the Legacy podcast, dive right in.

0:00 - 16:20 - Meet Stephen
16:20 - 28:05 - Meet Andy
28:05 - 36:44 - Legacy's Story

www.legacyfathers.org

What kind of a father do you want to be?

Today we've got a story of the impact a father can make. We are so grateful to Alf for sharing. Enjoy!

Between Series 2 and Series 3 we've got three solo episodes.

1. Meet Andy and Stephen
2. The impact of a father. Alf Thompson's Story.
3. "And he will turn the hearts of fathers" with Willie Paterson

www.legacyfathers.org

We had one episode on failing as a father. But what about deep failure?

The last verses of the Old Testament, Malachi 4:5-6 says, “Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the great and awesome day of the Lord comes. And he will turn the hearts of fathers to their children and the hearts of children to their fathers, lest I come and strike the land with a decree of utter destruction.”

Join us as we take a deep dive into this verse, and speak to a man with extensive experience in helping families who have experienced profound hurt turn towards each other, find healing and, where possible, restoration.

Today we are privileged to have Willie Patterson on the Legacy Podcast. Willie was the Assistant Director for 'Family and Child Care', and then took early retirement to set up Family Spectrum in 2004.

www.familyspectrum.org.uk
www.legacyfathers.org
https://www.legacyfathers.org/failing-forward-with-graeme-thompson-legacy-podcast-s1e2/

Next up with have a ‘How to’ series… Suggestions always welcome - hello@legacyfathers.org

Imagine getting to sit in as someone else opens the Bible with their children.

Big thanks to Chase Replogle for giving us the opportunity to do just that with his new podcast. Let's Talk Bible for Kids (and parents)

Chapters
0:00 - 2:50 Introductions
2:50 - 18:00 Opening the Bible with our children
18:00 - 31:53 The 5 Masculine Instincts

This is the first in our ‘How To’ series. Up next: How to Help Your Children Slow Down, with Kent Evans

Guest: Chase Replogle"Chase is the pastor of Bent Oak Church in Springfield, Missouri. Host of two podcasts - the Let's Talk Bible podcast for kids (and parents) and the Pastor Writer Podcast, on reading, writing and the Christian life. He is author of The 5 Masculine Instincts and enjoys being outdoors with his wife and two kids, sailing, playing the guitar (badly), and quail hunting with his bird dog Millie."

Host: Andy LambertonAndy Lamberton is the director of Legacy. He goes to the same church his parents, grandparents, great and great great-grandparents went to. Married to Debbie, they are raising their four children in Donegal with ice-pops for dessert most days. Author of Letters for Exiles: Faithful Living in a Faithless World.

Links:

• Legacy website
• Let's talk Bible website
• Five Masculine Instincts
• Letters for Exiles

Life is a million miles an hour. Is your home a haven or do you live in a hurried house? Little of what’s important happenes in a rush.

Join Andy Lamberton as he speaks with Kent Evans about helping our children slow down.

Chapters

(0:00-3:29) - Introduction

(3:30-23:59) - Helping our children slow down

(24:00-39:01) - Becoming disciple-making dads

This is the second of our ‘How To’ series. Up next: How to Embrace God’s Call to be Fathers to the Fatherless, with Roger Cooke.

Guest: Kent Evans is executive director of Manhood Journey, and along with his wife, April, has not one, not two, not three, not four, but five sons.

Host: Andy Lamberton is the director of Legacy. He goes to the same church his parents, grandparents, great and great great-grandparents went to. Married to Debbie, they are raising their four children in Donegal with ice-pops for dessert most days. Author of Letters for Exiles: Faithful Living in a Faithless World.

Links:
Legacy website
Manhood Journey
Letters for Exiles

Would you consider fostering?

Every 15 minutes, a child comes into care in the UK. What can we, as the church, do to help?

We were delighted to have Roger Cooke, from Home for Good, on the Legacy Podcast. Roger provides a depth of insight which we (Stephen and Andy) found both inspiring and helpful in considering if fostering is something our families can do. Join us.

Chapters
0:00 - 7:45 Introductions
7:45 - 22:35 Why should we care?
22:35 - 35:32 What does it take?
35:32 - 42:46 Commissioning for Every Father

Guest
Roger Cooke is the right man to help us consider fostering and adoption. He leads the work of Home for Good, who believe we all have a part to play in ensuring every child and young person has the home they need. They work to mobilise the Church in the UK to respond to the needs of children in care. Find out more at homeforgood.org.uk

Hosts
Andy Lamberton is the director of Legacy. Author of Letters for Exiles. And used to be a farmer. Stephen Mullan is Chief Excetutive of Dreamscheme. Writer at Rethinking Youth. And likes to wander.

Links:

• Legacy
• Home for Good

Friendship, Sex, and Marriage, I mean … I like all those things! But I struggle to talk about them with my children. 

Join Andy as he talks with Ed Drew from Faith in Kids about loneliness and value, sex and sexuality, marriage and Mr Rogers.

Chapters

0:00 - 2:36 Introductions
2:36 - 13:47 Transferable Skills
13:47 - 17:03 Loniness, Friendship and Value
17:03 - 27:31
Sex and Sexuality
27:31 - 37:08 Final Remarks

Part of our ‘How to’ series

Guest: Ed Drew

He is the director of Faith in Kids, which seeks to resource children's and family ministry in the local church. For twelve years, he was the Children’s Worker in South West London. He’s married to Mary, and they have three children. Before all that, he worked as an engineer. Author of Raising Confident Kids in a confusing world.

Host: Andy Lamberton

Andy Lamberton is the director of Legacy. He goes to the same church his parents, grandparents, great and great great-grandparents went to. Married to Debbie, they are raising their four children in Donegal with ice-pops for dessert most days. Author of Letters for Exiles: Faithful Living in a Faithless World.

Links: 

• Legacy
• Faith in Kids
• Facebook article mentioned in Podcast

This is the first of a short seven part series. Join Andy, Rob and Stephen as they read through The Heart of the Father: Seven Reading to Celebrate Father's Day.

1. As a Father – so the LORD
2. Fathers Know
3. Fathers Speak
4. Fathers Desire
5. Fathers Do Not Leave
6. Fathers Run
7. Fathers Turn

Links:

• Legacy

Join Andy, Rob and Stephen as they read through The Heart of the Father: Seven Reading to Celebrate Father's Day.

1. As a Father – so the LORD
2. Fathers Know
3. Fathers Speak
4. Fathers Desire
5. Fathers Do Not Leave
6. Fathers Run
7. Fathers Turn

Links:

• Legacy

Join Andy, Rob and Stephen as they read through The Heart of the Father: Seven Reading to Celebrate Father's Day.

1. As a Father – so the LORD
2. Fathers Know
3. Fathers Speak
4. Fathers Desire
5. Fathers Do Not Leave
6. Fathers Run
7. Fathers Turn

Links:

• Legacy

Join Andy, Rob and Stephen as they read through The Heart of the Father: Seven Reading to Celebrate Father's Day.

1. As a Father – so the LORD
2. Fathers Know
3. Fathers Speak
4. Fathers Desire
5. Fathers Do Not Leave
6. Fathers Run
7. Fathers Turn

Links:

• Legacy

Join Andy, Rob and Stephen as they read through The Heart of the Father: Seven Reading to Celebrate Father's Day.

1. As a Father – so the LORD
2. Fathers Know
3. Fathers Speak
4. Fathers Desire
5. Fathers Do Not Leave
6. Fathers Run
7. Fathers Turn

Links:

• Legacy

Join Andy, Rob and Stephen as they read through The Heart of the Father: Seven Reading to Celebrate Father's Day.

1. As a Father – so the LORD
2. Fathers Know
3. Fathers Speak
4. Fathers Desire
5. Fathers Do Not Leave
6. Fathers Run
7. Fathers Turn

Links:

• Legacy

Join Andy, Rob and Stephen as they read through The Heart of the Father: Seven Reading to Celebrate Father's Day.

1. As a Father – so the LORD
2. Fathers Know
3. Fathers Speak
4. Fathers Desire
5. Fathers Do Not Leave
6. Fathers Run
7. Fathers Turn

Links:

• Legacy

The Christian life is no anti-climax. Jesus invites us to life in all its fullness.When Jesus calls Peter to ‘come follow me’ he doesn’t leave Peter in the dark. He says come follow me, and I will make you into a fisher of men. Jesus had a journey of transformation in mind for Peter. Discipleship.

If you’re feeling stuck, your faith stagnant – listen to this episode. Sometimes we need a nudge to awaken us again. To grow in the freedom of putting Christ first. To live a generous and grateful life with God and our family. 

Chapters
0:00 - 5:32 Introductions
5:33 - 10:48 The main things that help Christian men grow
10:49 - 12:08 You’re from Scotland but your accent's American?
12:09 - 21:22 PRESS and Men Behaving Dadly
21:23 - 39:59 More things that help spiritual growth for men

Guest: Joe Barnard
Joe Barnard is the pastor of Holyrood Evangelical Church in Edinburgh and the executive director of Cross Training Ministries, a discipleship ministry focused on training men in spiritual fitness. He is also the author of ‘The Way Forward: a Road Map of Spiritual Growth for Men in the 21st Century’. Married to Anna, they have four children.

Host: Andy Lamberton
Andy Lamberton is the director of Legacy. He goes to the same church his parents, grandparents, great and great great-grandparents went to. Married to Debbie, they are raising their four children in Donegal with ice-pops for dessert most days. Author of Letters for Exiles: Faithful Living in a Faithless World.

Links: 

• Legacy
• Cross Training Ministries

Faith in the public square, a weekend for fathers and their 11y/o moving into year 8, and the small question of what it means to be human…Welcome to the first of our LIVE Podcasts.

Kicking things off with Peter Lynas at the Regular Joes men's conference run by our friends at RUMbLE. Peter trained and worked as a barrister. Married to Rose with two daughters. He has sat on various boards over the years, including the board of Regent College, where he and his wife studied for a season. He also sits on our board at Exodus. His passion for faith in the public square compels him as a regular commentator in the media. He now directs the work of Evangelical Alliance across the UK and is co-lead of Being Human.

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Guest: Peter Lynas is the director of Evangelical Alliance in the UK and co-lead of Being Human. 

Host: Andy Lamberton is director of Legacy and author of Letters for Exiles. 

Links:
Being Human
Evangelical Alliance

We are hosting two Legacy Podcast LIVE events in January and February 2025. 

• Elmwood Presbyterian, Lisburn – Thursday 23rd January 2025, 7:30pm.
• Magherafelt Baptist, Mid-Ulster – Friday 28th February 2025, 7:30pm.

BOOK YOUR SEATS HERE

Today’s guests hold significant roles in society and church. Join us for this uplifting conversation as Andy speaks with Shane and Fanta about their story of faith, the theme of fatherhood across Scripture, and what it means to be a grandfather and a father today.


SHANE LOGAN
Former head of Ulster Rugby, Shane Logan, is the new chief executive of the Bryson Group, one of Northern Ireland's biggest and oldest social enterprises. During his time at Ulster Rugby, Shane oversaw the £15m redevelopment of Ravenhill, now the Kingspan Stadium, as well as a period of strong success on the field, which culminated in the side reaching the 2012 Heineken Cup Final. 


BISHOP KEN CLARKE
Ken (aka Fanta) became a minister in 1972 and has served in a number of roles across the evangelical church, including time spent in Chile as a missionary, local church leadership on both sides of the Irish border, became Bishop of Kilmore, Elhpin and Ardagh in 2001 before directing SAMS UK and Ireland (South American Mission Society). Now Re-Fired, he is married to Helen, they have four daughters, and grandchildren.


ANDY LAMBERTON
Andy directs the work of Legacy and has been hosting the Legacy podcast since it started, with conversations on faith and fatherhood. Author of Letters for Exiles, married to Debbie, they have four children and usually have icepops for deserts. 

We are hosting another Legacy Podcast LIVE event in February 2025. 

• Magherafelt Baptist, Mid-Ulster – Friday 28th February 2025, 7:30pm.

BOOK YOUR SEATS HERE

A Derry man, a Yorkshire man, and a Donegal man walk into a church… Today, a Derry man bravely shares his story from brokenness to finding his identity in Christ–Tim’s story pulses with the restoring heart of our Heavenly Father. Also, you’ll get to hear Rob’s story as he shares about the heart of Legacy, his journey of faith, fostering and having young kids. Fasten your seatbelt!

TIM SHIELS
A former drug addict who experienced radical grace-driven transformation when he made the decision to follow Jesus. Tim and his wife, Jennie, now lead a growing church in Omagh. Tim is a father and UCB radio host.

ROB FRASER-BINNS
A Yorkshire man comes to Ireland. After over a decade of connection with a local church, Rob decided to follow Jesus. Having been a youth pastor in Scotland, he has just relocated to Northern Ireland to take up Legacy's Head of Programmes position. Rob, along with his wife Lisa, fostered children before they had their own.

ANDY LAMBERTON
Andy directs the work of Legacy and has been hosting the Legacy podcast since it started, with conversations on faith and fatherhood. Author of Letters for Exiles, married to Debbie, they have four children raising them along the Donegal shoreline. 

When God the Son became flesh, it started not in Bethlehem but nine months before, in pregnancy. Joseph, as husband to Mary and an earthly father to Jesus, is a fascinating example. Providing, protecting, leading and loving his family through difficulties, cultural shame and death threats. 

Our friends at Evangelical Alliance join us on the Legacy Podcast LIVE at Elmwood Presbyterian. From our changing society to the desire for wholesomeness amongst young people, from a fetus to the saviour of the world. We cover a lot of ground in this conversation on faith and fatherhood. 

Evangelical Alliance and Both Lives have a new resource called God Unborn, which looks at the impact of Joseph on the story of the incarnation. Download a seven-day devotional - God Unborn - here. Also available for churches is a video resource you can play on a Sunday morning in March - 9 months before Christmas at the same link.   

The Evangelical Alliance is a membership organisation of which we are a member - and you can be too! As a church, an organisation or an individual. Find out more on their website.  

Both Lives is an initiative of Evangelical Alliance: a pro-women and pro-life movement – imagining a people and place that values the life and health of women and unborn children, and pursues the wellbeing of both. Find out more here.

And Legacy… that’s us! A ministry for fathers. We provide programmes for churches to help faith and fatherhood thrive. Find out more on our website. www.legacyfathers.org


Today’s guests

DAVID SMYTH
David is head of the Evangelical Alliance in Northern Ireland and coordinates their Public Leader course. A former solicitor who represents the Evangelical Alliance on a range of government, civic, and charitable forums. He serves in the space where faith, law, politics, and culture intersect. He is also an elder in Legacurry Presbyterian Church. 

DAWN MCAVOY
Through her own story of pregnancy crisis, Dawn is now convinced that both lives matter during pregnancy. She lives and worships on the Ards peninsula in Northern Ireland with her husband Peter and their growing family.

ANDY LAMBERTON
Andy directs the work of Legacy and has been hosting the Legacy podcast since it started, with conversations on faith and fatherhood. Author of Letters for Exiles (a book on Daniel), married to Debbie, they have four children raising them along the Donegal shoreline. 


LINKS:

• A previous episode Fathers and the Unexpected with David and Dawn
• Download a seven-day devotional - God Unbo
• Evangelical Alliance
• Both Lives
• Legacy

The snare of pornography, the journey out, and a father coming to Christ. Andy is joined by two friends on the Legacy Podcast, Warren and Jasper, LIVE at Magherafelt Baptist Church. 

“The Devil knows your name but calls you by your sin. God knows your sin but calls you by your name.” “I could stop myself from falling on my knees, but I couldn’t stop the tears.”“It’s not that we have to clean ourselves up to come to God, but when we come to God, He cleans us up.”“You never walk alone.”

Feel free to reach out - hello@legacyfathers.org 

Huge thanks to Magherafelt for hosting such an amazing evening.

GUESTS
Warren Smyth
Jasper Rutherford
Andy Lamberton

Links:

• Legacy
• Conquer Series
• CIY