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15 Dec 2023188. Leading effectively with the board00:37:53

Boards are under increasing pressure to navigate a complex business environment, stay on top of accelerating technological advances, manage growing stakeholder expectations, and in some cases, set the organization's ambition level to catalyze change in close collaboration with management. 

To discuss how the role of the board is developing in light of these challenges we're joined by Karen McLoughlin, a former CFO who is a long-time board director for Best Buy, among other companies, Steven Sterin, who serves on the boards of DuPont and Kosmos Energy, and Frithjof Lund, a senior partner in our Oslo office and global leader of our Board Services practice.


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The board’s role in building resilience 

‘Spotlight’ on board diversity: McKinsey and Goldman Sachs move the needle

Geopolitical resilience: The new board imperative

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21 Jun 2024209. Innovation in video gaming with Electronic Arts’ Chief Strategy Officer Mihir Vaidya00:32:20

Innovation in online gaming requires keeping up with a broad mix of changes, including digital advances, audience desires, and artistic trends. In this episode, McKinsey innovation expert Erik Roth talks with Mihir Vaidya, the chief strategy officer of Electronic Arts, about these unique aspects of innovating in the gaming industry.  

We hope Erik and Mihir’s conversation will be valuable for all executives grappling with the challenges of dynamic and strategic resource allocation and the need to balance investment in growth with sustaining operations.


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18 Nov 2022139. How ambidextrous leaders manage through volatile times00:43:03

In this episode we discuss strategy in an age of volatility. How are business leaders honing their edge in three critical areas–insights, commitment, and execution–to successfully navigate this period of uncertainty? How should executives manage the downside while aggressively pursuing the upside in times of crisis and disruption?

To answer these questions, Sean Brown is joined by Michael Birshan and Ishaan Seth. Michael and Ishaan recently cowrote an article on this topic with Bob Sternfels, our global managing partner.

Michael and Ishaan are the co-leaders of our Strategy and Corporate Finance Practice. Ishaan joins us from New York, and his client work has focused banking and securities and financial services. Michael joins us from London, and he works with clients in energy, natural resources, and industrials. He also serves on the McKinsey Global Institute Council, which advises on research on global economic, business, and technology trends. 

What if the world’s highest-performing CEOs held a master class to share the skills and practices that have driven their success over the years? Learn more in CEO Excellence: The Six Mindsets That Distinguish the Best Leaders from the Rest

Unlock big strategy moves to beat the odds in business.  Learn more in Strategy Beyond the Hockey Stick.

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20 Mar 2025243. A road map to successful transformation00:45:18

Business transformation has evolved markedly in recent years as technology and the pace of change reshape the landscape organizations face. Once a byword for cost-cutting, transformation now more readily incorporates bold, strategic goals. Today, we discuss the core elements of a successful transformation and how to confront some of the common challenges.

We are joined by three deeply experienced leaders from our Transformation Practice to discuss how transformation has evolved over the years. Kevin Carmody is a senior partner based in our Chicago office and works with management teams, boards of directors, and other stakeholders on complex performance transformations, strategy, change management programs, and corporate finance. Louisa Greco is a partner in our Toronto office and focuses on driving broad-scale transformations, commercial improvement, growth and innovation, and organizational effectiveness. Rob Montgomery is a partner in our San Francisco office and has designed and led comprehensive transformations across industries. All our guests have served in senior executive and chief transformation officer roles.

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Breaking the mold: Five behaviors of leading growth transformers

Meet the newest member of the consumer C-suite: The chief transformation officer

Driving long-term business transformation

 

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22 Aug 2024215. Air Canada CFO John Di Bert on managing uncertainty00:20:32

This week, we are joined by John Di Bert, CFO of Air Canada, and John Kelleher, a senior partner based in Toronto and the global co-leader of our Finance and Capital Markets service line.

Recorded at our recent CFO forum in London, this discussion delves into how Air Canada is positioning itself for sustainable growth and stability, the key financial strategies that other CFOs can apply in similarly complex industries, the financial leadership required to navigate the inherent uncertainties of the airline industry, and the strategic vision necessary for long-term value creation.


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Corporate finance and the CFO role
The Seasons of the CFO (including How to prepare for the CFO role) 

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23 Nov 2023185. How to succeed in China's changing economy00:44:42

China’s economy and business landscape have been going through significant changes. We speak with three experts who will help us understand those shifts and how multinationals can adapt their strategies to succeed in China.

Our guests are Franck Le Deu, a leader of our Life Sciences Practice in China, Joe Ngai, chairman of our offices in Greater China, and Junna Shi, a partner who advises Chinese government institutions on industrial development, regional economic planning, and integrated regional development topics. 

 


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13 Feb 2025238. How leading CEOs excel at stakeholder engagement00:46:37

The best leaders are masterful communicators. They advance the aspirations of their companies with compelling, singular narratives that inspire a wide range of internal and external stakeholders. In this episode, we’re joined by three CEO and stakeholder relations experts who share their research into how CEOs can foster deeper dialogues and more meaningful connections with their wide range of stakeholders. Blair Epstein is a partner in our Bay Area office and a leader in our CEO Excellence Practice. Julia McClatchy is a partner in our Philadelphia office and a leader in our Growth, Marketing, and Sales Practice, and Eric Sherman is an expert based in our New York office who co-leads our CEO communications work.

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CEO Excellence: The Six Mindsets That Distinquish the Best Leaders from the Rest

The Journey of Leadership: How CEOs Learn to Lead From the Inside Out

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28 Mar 2025244. Filling the gap between innovation and go-to-market, with AWS’s Jelena Joffe 00:35:14

McKinsey innovation leader Erik Roth speaks with Jelena Joffe Weil, the founder and worldwide leader of the Venture Innovation program at Amazon Web Services, Amazon’s cloud computing arm, about how AWS works to close the gap between innovation and go-to-market for start-ups and large enterprises. The global hyperscaler is known for helping businesses grow and scale rapidly, but it also helps start-ups and established enterprises find each other to engage in open, or collaborative, innovation.

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The Committed Innovator podcast

Filling the gap between innovation and go to market

Driving innovation with generative AI

Taking fear out of innovation

How to take the measure of innovation

Fielding high-performing innovation teams

 

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20 Dec 2023189. CEO perspectives: Scott Wine, CNH Industrial00:26:27

Scott Wine is the CEO of the multinational equipment manufacturer and services company, CNH Industrial. The company's brands include CASE and New Holland. Scott reflects on the challenges of leading a globally dispersed business, the critical importance of technology to agriculture, and what he learned from running the executive dining room for General Colin Powell. He spoke with senior partner Celia Huber during our recent global strategy and leadership event in New York. 


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11 Oct 2023179. Hopper: Bringing fintech to travel booking00:22:36

Hopper has acquired 100 million mobile users by offering consumer-friendly financial products and a gamified app experience, according to cofounder Frederic Lalonde. In this episode, Frederic takes us on a journey and explains how Hopper transformed from a company with the bulk of its initial revenue coming from airline ticket sales into a travel fintech business—selling algorithmically enabled financial products such as price-freezing capabilities and cancellation insurance. We’ll also discuss consumer psychology, the power of gamification and social commerce, and the trade-offs involved in targeting younger travelers.

 

Related insights: 

Travel Disruptors: Bringing fintech to travel booking

What is digital transformation?

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18 Sep 2023176. Redefining the chief transformation officer's role00:40:17

The role of chief transformation officer (CTO) is often linked with cost-cutting. In this episode, we discuss how this is a misleadingly narrow view and explain why and how CTOs should correct that misconception and redefine the role. Our guests are Kevin Carmody, a senior partner in our Chicago office, AD Bhatia, a partner in our New Jersey office, and Emily Rizzi, an associate partner based in our Pittsburgh office. 

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16 Jun 2023162. Why today’s CFOs require ambidexterity00:34:51

In today's episode, Teradata’s chief financial officer, Claire Bramley,
discusses the evolving role of finance leaders with McKinsey CFO, Eric Kutcher.

Today, being a CFO requires harnessing the power of the “and” across many mandates: Playing offense and defense, leading the finance function, partnering with the broader C-suite, navigating short-term budget reallocation, and investing in strategic bets for the future, like investments in sustainability. 

Claire Bramley, CFO of Teradata, discusses what it takes to navigate the macro and micro forces driving today’s unpredictable environment with McKinsey’s CFO Eric Kutcher.

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21 Jul 2023167. How to predict your competitor's next move00:38:06

Joining us for this episode is John Horn, author of the new book Inside the Competitor's Mindset. John’s book analyzes how businesses can better understand their competitors and maximize the value of their competitive insights. He is a Professor of Practice in Economics at the Olin Business School at Washington University in St. Louis.

We also have Emma Gibbs with us. Emma is a partner in our London office, and head of our Strategy and Corporate Finance Practice in the U.K., Ireland, and Israel.

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09 Aug 2023169. Three essentials of successful corporate venture capital00:49:42

In this episode we talk about corporate venture capital: Why should you do it? How should you do it? And what should you expect from it?  

Traditionally, established corporations have tended to view start-ups as undisciplined and naive, while start-ups might dismiss incumbents as stodgy and behind the times. It’s (mostly) not like that anymore, as both sides increasingly recognize each other’s strengths and the value of collaborating. In fact, large companies are now involved in about a third of all venture deals—an all-time high. More than three-quarters of the Fortune 100 are active in the venture capital (VC) space and half have a VC arm set up as a subsidiary, not including companies with internal VC business units. 

Joining us to discuss this innovation and investment landscape are Matt Banholzer and Sid Ramtri. Matt is a partner in our Chicago office who heads up innovation at McKinsey and is a leader in our growth and LEAP business building practices. Sid is an associate partner in our São Paulo office and a core member of our private equity and venture capital practices.  

Related insights:  

How to make investments in start-ups pay off 

How to build a unicorn: Lessons from venture capitalists and start-ups 

The Ecosystem Economy  

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06 Sep 2024217. How CFOs raise their game in midtenure00:46:14

This week, we return to the CFO journey and discuss how CFOs can drive outperformance in the middle years of their tenure. We’re joined by Ankur Agrawal, a partner in our New York office, a leader in our Strategy and Corporate Finance and Healthcare practices, and the leader of our CFO and finance service line in the Americas. Christian Grube is a partner in our Munich office, leader in our Strategy and Corporate Finance practice, and the leader of our CFO and finance service line in Europe. Arun Nayar’s career in finance spans more than 40 years. He was the former Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer of Tyco International, the former CFO of global operations at PepsiCo, and he currently sits on the boards of GFL Environmental, Amcor, and Rite Aid.


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Faster, smarter, bolder: How midtenure CFOs shift into a higher gear

The seasons of the CFO

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19 Feb 2025239. CEO perspectives: Jim Fitterling, Chair and CEO of Dow Inc. 00:35:41

Innovation and transformation become critical imperatives for many organizations, especially as they grow larger and mature. The complex merger and series of spin-offs that Dow Inc. underwent with E. I. du Pont de Nemours and Company between 2017 and 2018 is among the more dramatic of such reinventions. The move to create a materials science company (Dow), an agricultural business (Corteva), and an industrial company (Dupont), remains a much-studied growth strategy case.

In this episode, Dow Inc. Chair and CEO Jim Fitterling talks with McKinsey Senior Partner and Global Energy and Materials Practice leader John Warner about why the “merge-spin” made sense then and now, and about leading a global company with compassion in a rapidly changing world. 


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How Dow reinvented itself

Getting fit for growth: The leadership mindsets and behaviors that matter

The Committed Innovator: A conversation with Neal Gutterson of Corteva

The making of a megadeal: Howard Ungerleider on the merger of Dow and DuPont

Top M&A trends in 2024: Blueprint for success in the next wave of deals

How one approach to M&A is more likely to create value than all others

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16 Dec 2022142. Taking fear out of innovation00:47:38

The risk and ambiguity inherent in innovation can make employees shy away from it. Creating an innovation culture where risk-taking is embraced must start at the top.

Most executives will agree that fear—of criticism, of uncertainty, of career consequences—can paralyze innovation. In this episode, three innovation experts discuss ways to create an environment of psychological safety that rewards creative initiative and destigmatizes failure. Laura Furstenthal, Alex Morris, and Erik Roth, all leaders in McKinsey’s innovation practice, are the co-authors of the recent article, Fear factor: overcoming human barriers to innovation.


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03 Feb 2023148. Driving growth while decarbonizing: A conversation with E.ON’s Patrick Lammers00:34:53

We're joined by Patrick Lammers, chief operating officer for customer solutions, at E.ON, one of Europe’s leading energy providers. Patrick explains how he fosters growth during a historic, industrywide transition to renewable power.

E.ON is a German multinational serving more than 50 million customers throughout Europe. Like every other major European utility, E.ON is contending with supply chain disruptions, a continental energy crisis, and the need to decarbonize without sacrificing growth.

Lammers sat down with McKinsey’s Sascha Lehmann to explain his growth philosophy, which includes always being ready for growth with the right organizational framework; creating diverse teams full of new talent to encourage fresh thinking; and relentlessly looking for opportunities to automate key parts of the value chain. 

We are sharing today’s episode as part of an ongoing collaboration with our Growth, Marketing, and Sales Practice on the topic of growth strategy.  It is also the first episode of the Practice's new podcast called C-Suite Growth Talks, which will feature conversations with leading executives about how they are successfully choosing growth, by aligning around a shared mindset, strategy, and capabilities.  

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31 Jan 2025236. How corporate boards are responding to their changing role00:45:37

Corporate boards face increasing complexity as factors such as technological and geopolitical change challenge the organizations they serve. At the same time, boards are expected to do more, including to serve as catalysts of value creation. In this episode we talk with three experts on board effectiveness about their research: Senior partners Frithjof Lund and Celia Huber lead McKinsey’s Board Services Practice, together with senior expert Nina Spielmann. Their recently published analysis, “Better together: Three ways to boost board–CEO collaboration,” looks at the ways boards can do more to help advance the corporations they steward.


Related insights

The rising complexity of board directorship

Ready to board: Ascending new heights through CEO-board communication

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04 Nov 2022138. The board's role in building resilience00:43:14

Corporate resilience requires both protecting against the downside and preparing to capture the upside from any shocks.  In this episode, three experts discuss the board's role in building that resilience. Asutosh Padhi is a senior partner in our Chicago office who helps industrial companies with functional, business unit, and enterprise-wide transformations. Celia Huber, a senior partner in our San Francisco Bay Area office, leads our board services work in North America. Finally, Ida Kristensen is a senior partner in our New York office who coleads our Risk and Resilience Practice in North America, as well as our Global Cybersecurity Practice. 

Here is the board survey Celia mentions during this episode: How boards have risen to the COVID-19 challenge, and what’s next

Here is the episode on board resilience from April 2021.

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27 Mar 2024200. A genuine partnership with the board00:18:27

CEOs and CFOs are redefining their interactions with the board to ensure success in an era of rapid change. Joining us to delve into this growing trend of collaboration between CEOs, management teams, and boards are Celia Huber, leader of our North American board services practice, along with Michael Birshan and Andy West, the co-leaders of our Strategy and Corporate Finance Practice. 

 


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The board’s role in building resilience https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/strategy-and-corporate-finance/our-insights/the-boards-role-in-building-resilience

Five ways to increase your board’s long-term impact https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/strategy-and-corporate-finance/our-insights/five-ways-to-increase-your-boards-long-term-impact

The role of the board in preparing for extraordinary risk https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/strategy-and-corporate-finance/our-insights/the-role-of-the-board-in-preparing-for-extraordinary-risk

 

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04 Apr 2025245. The six habits  of successful risk leaders00:44:36

To succeed today, chief risk officers (CRO) and other risk leaders must exert more influence and build organizational resilience in an increasingly complex risk environment. Today’s guests share the key practices that set top risk leaders apart, as CROs shift from traditional risk managers to influential figures driving resilience and organizational success.

Ida Kristensen is the global co-leader of our Risk and Resilience Practice and senior partner in our New York office. She advises clients across sectors on a variety of topics spanning enterprise risk management, resilience, organization and talent, cybersecurity, regulatory compliance, and operational improvement. Ritesh Jain is a partner based in our New York office and a leader in our Risk and Resilience Practice. He advises financial institutions on their risk and resilience priorities with a focus on enterprise risk management, operational risk, and transforming the frontline risk and control environment. We are also joined by Naba Banerjee, currently Chief Product and Experience Officer at CLEAR and formerly a senior advisor to McKinsey and the Global Head of Trust and Safety at Airbnb, where she led a team responsible for industry-defining solutions that reduced fraud and safety incidents by over 50%.

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The six habits of highly successful chief risk officers

Risk and resilience priorities, as told by chief risk officers

Helping boards manage geopolitical risk with Jon Huntsman Jr.

How ambidextrous leaders manage through volatile times

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29 Aug 2023173. Rewired: Lessons from 200 large-scale digital and AI transformations00:30:21

Our guest is Eric Lamarre, a senior partner in our Boston office and coauthor of the new book, Rewired: The McKinsey Guide to Outcompeting in the Age of Digital and AI.

Eric and his coauthors, fellow senior partners Kate Smaje and Rodney Zemmel, based their book on the results of more than 200 large-scale digital transformations, creating a detailed guide for companies seeking to outcompete in the age of digital and AI.

They’ve found that to increase the odds of long-term success in a digital transformation, the C-suite must make fundamental changes to the company’s talent, operating model, technology and data capabilities. In this episode, we speak to Eric about those changes and discuss how executives can leverage them to ensure that their digital transformation is a success.

Related insights:

Rewired: The McKinsey guide to outcompeting in the age of digital and AI

The Wall Street Journal article mentioned by Eric: It’s Time to Get Rid of the IT Department

Rewired for value: Digital and AI transformations that work

Rewired to outcompete

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09 Jun 2023161. How programmatic M&A leads to long-term resilience00:44:21

New research shows that programmatic M&A helps companies outperform peers more than ever, creating value and resilience, even during a pandemic.

In this episode the authors of our recent research on M&A discuss their latest findings that programmatic M&A—doing many small and midsize deals—helps build resilience in addition to outperformance over peers. Jeff Rudnicki and Tobias Lundberg lead our M&A strategy work globally, and Patrick McCurdy is global co-lead of our M&A capability building work. They were joined by Joanna Stone Herman, a partner at the M&A advisory firm Oaklins DeSilva+Phillips. 

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11 Oct 2024221. Building a superpower: How to turn a capability into a competitive advantage00:21:42

Companies have endless initiatives and plans, all with the promise to transform the organization and deliver attractive financial returns. However experience indicates companies should focus on building an institutional capability that has the power to separate them from the rest. To discuss how to build this superpower we’re joined by Brad Mendelson, a senior partner based in our Cleveland Ohio office, and Tova Katzir, a partner in our New York office.


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Building a superpower: What can we learn from the Magnificent Seven?

What’s your superpower? How companies can build an institutional capability to achieve competitive advantage

 

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06 Sep 2023174. Maximizing the impact of your investor relations00:39:43

In this episode, we explore the core principles of a successful investor relations strategy. 
We're joined by Werner Rehm, a partner in our New Jersey office, Jay Gelb, a partner in our New York office, David Honigmann, a senior expert in our London office, and Karl Mahler, a senior adviser to McKinsey based in Zurich who brings over 30 years of experience as a healthcare executive, including as head of investor relations at Hoffmann-La Roche. 

We discuss why you should focus communication on the large intrinsic investors that matter the most, how to communicate with those intrinsic investors, and how to take a one-story approach that ensures communication is consistent across all groups. 

Related insights: 
Should you start issuing EPS guidance again?
A better investor story for insurers
Valuation: Measuring and Managing the Value of Companies, 7th edition

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09 Nov 2023183. How mid-tenure CEOs find a new gear00:43:13

The best CEOs find a new gear and sustain momentum and high performance after the heady first years in the job. We're joined by Kurt Strovink, a senior partner in our New York office, and Carolyn Dewar, a senior partner in our Bay Area office, to discuss the four ways CEOs can avoid complacency and create even more value in their mid-tenure. 



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Staying ahead: How the best CEOs continually improve performance 

CEO Excellence: The Six Mindsets That Distinguish the Best Leaders From the Rest  

The CEO Journey

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30 Oct 2024223. What’s new in strategy: A view from the frontlines00:32:04

Senior partners Alex D’Amico, Michael Birshan, and Andy West join us for a conversation about the latest developments in the field of strategy. They discuss how generative AI will change strategy creation, the importance of developing distinctive insights as part of the strategy process, and how to avoid social dynamics from derailing your organization’s best-laid plans.


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29 Aug 2024216. Making your strategic plan compelling to investors00:16:59

This week, we discuss how companies can create value in today’s complex business environment and communicate that value effectively to investors by demonstrating strategic clarity and consistency amid uncertainty.

Our guests are Justin Sanders, a partner in New York and a leader in our Corporate Finance Practice, and Cassandre Danoux, a partner in London who leads our Joint Ventures and Alliances Practice


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What your most important investors need to know

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Valuation: Measuring and Managing the Value of Companies, 7th edition

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06 Mar 2024197. Growth, AI, and the future of finance: An interview with Workday’s CFO Zane Rowe00:26:33

Zane Rowe is the CFO of Workday, a California-based company that develops enterprise software for managing finance, HR, and planning. Workday has been growing rapidly, and its growth-oriented culture is a central theme of the discussion we recorded between Zane and McKinsey's CFO Eric Kutcher


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30 Nov 2023186. Palo Alto Networks CFO, Dipak Golechha00:35:25

Dipak Golechha is the Chief Financial Officer of Palo Alto Networks, a leading cybersecurity company. This episode features a conversation between Dipak and Eric Kutcher, our own CFO.

Dipak and Eric discuss their experiences around the expanding CFO mandate, what it’s like to lead the finance function in a highly volatile business environment, and how they’re grappling with AI and other new technologies.


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28 Nov 2024227. Retired CIA Director John Brennan: Why modernization is ‘never over’00:48:45

Organizations often struggle to adapt to change, whether technological, economic, or geopolitical. Yet change is inevitable, especially as technology evolves. This week, we are joined by retired Central Intelligence Agency Director John Brennan, who, from 2013 to 2017, transformed the agency’s organizational structure to better meet its full potential. John spoke with Megan McConnell, a partner based in our Washington D.C office who assists large, complex institutions in transforming how they run their organizations.


 

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07 Nov 2024224. Strategies to navigate geopolitical uncertainty00:42:38

This week, we discuss strategies for navigating geopolitical uncertainty with the authors of a recent article on the subject. Michael Birshan is a senior partner and co-leads our Strategy & Corporate Finance practice globally and also serves on the McKinsey Global Institute Council, Ziad Haider is a partner and our global director of geopolitical risk, and Olivia White is a senior partner and director of our business and economics research arm, the McKinsey Global Institute.


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02 Jun 2023160. Voices of CEO Excellence: Merck's Ken Frazier. Episode 2.00:41:24

In this second episode of our Voices of CEO Excellence interview with Ken Frazier, the former executive chairman and CEO of Merck candidly reflects on how he managed past crises.

Frazier discusses his decision-making process around the litigation trial concerning Merck’s pain-relief drug Vioxx, and how his employees ensured that a potentially crippling cyber attack did not stop production of critical medicines. He also speaks about how his most important advisor, his wife Andrea, has kept him grounded. 

Frazier spoke with Vik Malhotra, former chairman of McKinsey’s Americas region and co-author of last year’s New York Times bestseller, CEO Excellence: The Six Mindsets That Distinguish the Best Leaders from the Rest and Steve Van Kuiken, a former leader in our Life Sciences Practice and global leader of McKinsey Technology. 

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27 Feb 2025240. Improving strategy with AI 00:40:32

A key challenge to developing corporate strategy is moving quickly enough with the right insights to gain and maintain a competitive edge. Generative AI can help with this, as our guests this week describe.In this episode, we talk with three strategy experts about their research into using gen AI to help develop corporate strategy and the successes and challenges they encountered.

Bruce Delteil is the managing partner of our Vietnam office and leads our Strategy Practice in Asia. He serves clients on all aspects of strategy development, including scenario planning, visioning, war games, and the impact of gen AI. Antoine Montard is our Strategy Practice director of client capabilities based in Lisbon. He leads our Strategy, Research, and Insight Center and helps develop novel approaches for strategy, builds capabilities of teams and clients, and serves as a strategy expert on client projects. Andrea Tricoli is an associate partner in our Strategy and Corporate Finance Practice based in London. He leads our initiative to apply generative AI to our Strategy Method. He serves organizations on how to use analytics and AI to drive better decision-making, especially across the finance and strategy functions.


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23 May 2023159. Voices of CEO Excellence: Merck’s Ken Frazier. Episode 100:42:20

As CEO of Merck, Ken Frazier gained the respect of his employees, shareholders, and the broader community - both through the company’s performance during his 11-year tenure and also through his handling of several tests of his leadership.

Now Merck’s former executive chairman, he recently shared how his experience growing up during the Civil Rights Movement shaped his career, how he ensured that science stayed at the core of Merck’s mission, and how he sees business’s role in society.

In this, the first of two new episodes Frazier recorded for our Voices of CEO Excellence series, he spoke with Vik Malhotra, former chairman of our Americas region and co-author of last year’s New York Times bestseller, CEO Excellence: The Six Mindsets That Distinguish the Best Leaders from the Rest and Steve Van Kuiken, a former leader in our Life Sciences Practice and global leader of McKinsey Technology. 

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26 Dec 2024231. Best of 2024 - Why strategists should embrace imperfection00:37:08

We're joined by Charles Conn and Rob McLean, AM, the co-authors of The Imperfectionists: Strategic Mindsets for Uncertain Times.

Charles is an investor, environmentalist, and entrepreneur. He co-founded Monograph, a venture firm, and was previously CEO of the Rhodes Trust in Oxford. He is the Board Chair of Patagonia and sits on The Nature Conservancy European Council. He was the founding CEO of Ticketmaster-Citysearch and a partner at McKinsey & Company. 

Rob is a Director Emeritus of McKinsey & Company, a Trustee of The Nature Conservancy in Australia and Asia, and a Director of the Paul Ramsay Foundation, Australia’s largest philanthropic foundation. He is the former Dean of the Australian Graduate School of Management. He was a Fulbright Scholar at the Columbia University Graduate School of Business.

Rob and Charles' books can be found here: https://bulletproofproblemsolving.com/

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10 Feb 2023149. Capturing value in digital transformations00:45:09

If you’re not in the tech industry, developing your own software may seem like an adjacency too far. But it’s just one of the things you may need to do today to execute a successful digital transformation.

In this episode, we’re joined by senior partners Rodney Zemmel and Kate Smaje who co-lead McKinsey Digital. We were also joined by Laura LaBerge, a senior expert in our Stamford office, who until recently was the director of capabilities in our Digital Strategy Practice. We recorded this episode with Rodney, Kate, and Laura in 2022. They discussed the findings from their research including why most organizations achieve less than one-third of the impact they expected from digital investments. We talked about what companies can learn from the best digital performers about how to beat the odds today.

Mckinsey.com article: Three new mandates for capturing a digital transformation’s full value

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10 Mar 2023152. How to make a strong start as a CEO00:46:51

In this episode, we share advice and insights for new CEOs about how they can make a strong start in the role. Sean Brown is joined by Carolyn Dewar, a senior partner in our San Francisco office who is the founder and co-leader of our CEO Excellence Practice. She is also a co-author of last year’s NY Times bestseller, CEO Excellence: The Six Mindsets That Distinguish the Best Leaders from the Rest.

Joining Carolyn today is Kurt Strovink, a senior partner in our New York office and co-leader of our global CEO initiative. He serves as a counselor to CEOs across industries and is a co-author, with Carolyn, of the Mckinsey.com article, Starting strong: Making your CEO transition a catalyst for renewal.

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06 Oct 2023178. How Major League Baseball built an innovation machine00:35:43

Major League Baseball’s Chief Operating and Strategy Officer Chris Marinak speaks with McKinsey innovation leader Erik Roth about how the league is using fan feedback, experimentation, and data to change a game steeped in tradition and culture to reach the next generation of fans. This season, MLB implemented rules changes that fundamentally altered the pace and action of the game and continues to embrace innovation and technology to improve the game and the overall fan experience.


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18 Apr 2024202. Charting your M&A course for 202400:44:42

M&A dealmakers have been on a wild ride. From the pandemic-fueled rout in 2020 to 2021’s record-breaking recovery, followed by a steep decline in 2023, the global M&A market has offered something of a masterclass in volatility. In this episode, we are joined by senior partners Jake Henry, Mieke Van Oostende, and Andy West to discuss the trends in the global M&A environment in 2024 and what they mean for business leaders. Jake and Mieke recently published a report on McKinsey.com, Top M&A trends in 2024: Blueprint for success in the next wave of deals, which forms the basis for our discussion.

The report also includes a compendium of articles analyzing deal activity in the chemicals, tech media and telecom, life sciences, financial services, consumer goods, and transport and logistics industries in 2023. 

 

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16 May 2024205. Helping boards manage geopolitical risk with Jon Huntsman Jr.00:40:22

The need for board-level strategic conversations on geopolitical risk is urgent. To discuss how boards can guide companies through an increasingly complex geopolitical environment, we’re joined by Jon Huntsman Jr. Jon is a former US governor and diplomat who has spent nearly two decades in US public service at the state, national, and international levels. He sits on the boards of Ford, Mobileye, and Chevron, and is also the Vice Chairman of MasterCard. We're also joined by Ziad Haider, a partner in our Singapore office who co-leads our Geopolitics Practice, and Celia Huber, a senior partner in our Bay Area location who leads our North American Board Services Practice.


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Black swans, gray rhinos, and silver linings: Anticipating geopolitical risks (and openings) 

How global companies can manage geopolitical risk 

Boards can guide companies through geopolitical headwinds

Geopolitical resilience: The new board imperative

How three global companies navigate geopolitical risk to build resilience

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13 Jun 2024208. Preparing your organization for uncertainty00:42:01

In today's episode, we delve into practical strategies that organizations can implement to effectively manage and adapt during times of uncertainty.

We explore a range of approaches, including scenario planning, risk management, cultivating leadership skills, and leveraging technology. Our guests also underscore the critical need for agility and swift decision-making when facing unpredictable conditions.

We are joined by McKinsey senior advisor Rear Admiral Wyman Howard III (ret.), Mihir Mysore, a partner in our Houston office who founded and leads our Crisis Response and Resilience Practices globally, Alex Panas, a senior partner in our Boston office who co-leads our Advanced Industries Practice, and Gregory D. Smith, Chairman of American Airlines.  


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07 Jul 2023165. Four steps to becoming a high-potential CEO candidate00:41:14

The road to becoming CEO is a difficult ascent for even the most seasoned leaders. We discuss the four keys to making that journey a success with Carolyn Dewar and Vik Malhotra, two of the authors of the New York Times bestseller, CEO Excellence.   

Carolyn is a senior partner in our San Francisco office who founded and co-leads our CEO Excellence Practice. She works directly with Fortunate 100 client CEOs to help them maximize their effectiveness in the role. Vik is a senior partner in our New York office, who is one of our firm’s most senior client advisors. Vik has served on our board of directors and as our Managing Partner of the Americas, and he currently focuses on counselling CEOs and boards.

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09 Jan 2025233. Building the will to transform: The importance of communication in transformations00:41:54

The way leaders talk about the goals and process of transformation has a profound influence on outcomes.

The process of transformation can challenge any organization that undertakes it. In this episode, McKinsey transformation experts John Parsons, Dominic Skerritt, and Mary Lass Stewart talk about the role of communication to engaging and keeping team members on board and energized throughout the process. The trio recently co-authored an article on the subject, Going all in: Why employee ‘will’ can make or break transformations.


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16 Aug 2024214. The secrets to outperforming in family-owned businesses00:39:31

This week, we delve into a McKinsey.com report on family-owned businesses (FOBs) that demonstrates how, by combining four critical mindsets with five strategic actions, FOBs have a chance to quadruple their value in the next decade while maintaining resilience.

Our guests are Eduardo Asaf who is a partner in McKinsey’s Mexico City office, Acha Leke, who is a senior partner in our Johannesburg office, and Francesco Malatesta, who is a partner in our Dubai office.


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The secrets of outperforming family-owned businesses: How they create value—and how you can become one

Insights on Private Capital

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06 Apr 2023154. The Committed Innovator: Working with start-ups00:48:10

Corporate innovators often turn to Israel and its vibrant start-up ecosystem to meet their goals. In this episode, we continue our Committed Innovator series on Israel, talking with innovators from three large organizations about how they approach their relations with start-ups. Roi Bar-Kat is head of Intel Capital in Israel, Neta-Li Meiri is chief of global tech innovation for the Israeli food company Strauss Group, and David Schwartz is vice president of tech innovation for PepsiCo Labs. They spoke with innovation leader and McKinsey senior partner Erik Roth about the intersection of corporate innovation and start-up lead innovation, and how the two functions can support each other.


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16 Jan 2025What an AI-powered finance function of the future looks like 00:28:19

In this bonus episode of Inside the Strategy Room, we feature an interview with OpenAI CFO Sarah Friar from the At the Edge podcast. Sarah joined our senior partner, Lareina Yee, to discuss how to lead through this era of intense technological change and what it means for the future of the finance function and business leadership.  

Our At the Edge podcast features conversations with creative leaders and pioneers who demystify cutting-edge technologies and share strategies for companies to capture big opportunities. 
 


 

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Managing the risks around generative AI 

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24 Oct 2024222. Investor perspective: A conversation with BlackRock’s Sandy Boss00:15:38

This week, Sandy Boss, Senior Managing Director at global investment firm BlackRock and Chair of BlackRock UK, joins us on the podcast. In a conversation with Michael Birshan, a senior partner and the global coleader of our Strategy & Corporate Finance Practice, Sandy shares her insights on geopolitics and the energy transition as well as her ‘five Cs’ for CFOs looking to take an investor’s perspective. We recorded their conversation at a recent gathering for CFOs in London. 


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03 Jan 2024191. Best of 2023 - How to make a strong start as a CEO00:46:51

In this episode, we share advice and insights for new CEOs about how they can make a strong start in the role. Sean Brown is joined by Carolyn Dewar, a senior partner in our San Francisco office who is the founder and co-leader of our CEO Excellence Practice. She is also a co-author of last year’s NY Times bestseller, CEO Excellence: The Six Mindsets That Distinguish the Best Leaders from the Rest.

Joining Carolyn is Kurt Strovink, a senior partner in our New York office and co-leader of our global CEO initiative. He serves as a counselor to CEOs across industries and is a co-author, with Carolyn, of the Mckinsey.com article, Starting strong: Making your CEO transition a catalyst for renewal.

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12 Dec 2024229. How to sustain transformation success00:43:17

Too often, business transformation is treated as a short-term exercise or financial goal. In this episode, three of our transformation experts share the core elements of a sustained transformation, in which mindsets shift, expectations change, and new heights are reached.

Stephan Görner is a senior partner and the global co-leader of our Transformation Practice. He was joined by senior partner Michael Bucy and associate partner Rachel McKlindon.


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To deliver a transformation’s full potential, put the front line first

The powerful role financial incentives can play in a transformation

How many people are really needed in a transformation?

McKinsey Insights on Transformation

McKinsey Transformation on LinkedIn 

 

 

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20 Sep 2024218. Cisco Systems CFO on M&A, geopolitics, and the emerging AI opportunity00:24:59

This week, we’re joined by Scott Herren, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer of Cisco Systems, and Eric Kutcher, Senior Partner and Chair of McKinsey & Company, North America. They discuss the rationale for Cisco's recent acquisition, the role of CFOs in driving change within a company, the impact of AI on finance, and the current geopolitical and economic climate.

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Data, analytics, and decisions: An interview with Teradata’s CFO

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09 Dec 2022141. Artificial intelligence in strategy00:29:41

AI tools can help executives avoid biases in decisions, pull insights out of oceans of data, and make strategic choices more quickly. And that’s just the beginning.

Can machines automate strategy development? The short answer is no. However, there are numerous aspects of strategists’ work where AI and advanced analytics tools can already bring enormous value. Yuval Atsmon is a senior partner who leads the new McKinsey Center for Strategy Innovation, which studies ways new technologies can augment the timeless principles of strategy. In this episode, he explains how artificial intelligence is already transforming strategy and what’s on the horizon. 

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06 Jan 2023145. Google Cloud CEO Thomas Kurian00:41:56

Google Cloud CEO Thomas Kurian joins us Inside the Strategy Room for a wide-ranging conversation where he discusses how he has grown Google's cloud business, how he manages innovation, and how he thinks about talent management. Thomas also shares insights on sustainability and the future of artificial intelligence and machine learning.

This episode is an excerpt of a conversation Thomas and Adrian Booth, a senior partner in our Silicon Valley office, had at a recent gathering of global business leaders. 

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03 Feb 2024194. Driving long-term business transformation00:28:49

Many companies turn to transformation because their leaders seek to capture untapped potential or realize growth or efficiency gains. Yet transformations take work to get right. Our research shows less than a third of transformations reach their goals to improve organizational performance and sustain these improvements over time.

To discuss how to beat those odds and sustain a holistic business transformation over the long term, we are joined by Roman Regelman and Kevin Carmody.  

Roman is Senior Executive Vice President and Global Head of Securities Services and Digital at US-based financial company BNY Mellon.

Kevin is a senior partner in our Transformation Practice with over twenty years of experience serving clients across Europe and North and South America.

 


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18 Oct 2023180. Implementing transformations for the long-term00:43:43

Many organizations embark on large-scale transformations, only to end with frustrated leaders and worse-than-expected long-term results. That doesn't have to be the case. Success is attainable and organizations that excel at implementation tend to outperform their peers financially. What sets these top performers apart? Olalla Montes, Nick Robson, and Nick Waugh join us to answer that question. 


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03 Oct 2023177. How ESG can enhance profitable growth00:37:15

Many executives believe making growth sustainable and inclusive requires inscrutable trade-offs, forgoing revenue and profit for the sake of society and the planet. That is not always the case. Our new analysis indicates financially successful companies that integrate environmental, social, and corporate governance (ESG) priorities into their growth strategies outperform their peers—provided they also outperform on the fundamentals. The message is clear: not only can you do well while doing good—you can do better.

Our guests are Rebecca Doherty, Claudia Kampel, and Werner Rehm

 


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13 Mar 2025242. Planning for the next wave of M&A00:45:46

This week we speak with the authors of our latest Annual M&A Report about trends in the deal landscape and what we might expect from 2025. Will the much-anticipated increase in transactions finally materialize? Or will players continue to hold onto their dry powder, waiting for the ongoing uncertainty that we’ve seen since the pandemic to settle down? McKinsey senior partners Mieke Van Oostende and Jake Henry co-lead our M&A practice, and in this episode, they share findings and observations from their latest report. 

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M&A Annual Report: Is the wave finally arriving?

Gen AI: Opportunities in M&A

How one approach to M&A is more likely to create value than all others

How lots of small M&A deals add up to big value

The seven habits of programmatic acquirers

How AI is transforming strategy development

McKinsey Insights on M&A

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10 Apr 2025246. Alok Sama on corporate finance in the fast lane00:46:58

Alok Sama spent years in corporate finance and as a managing director at Morgan Stanley before joining Softbank as CFO and plunging into founder-CEO Masayoshi Son’s world of high-speed, high-risk decision making. For Sama, the shift involved many eye-opening experiences, which he later shared in a memoir, titled The Money Trap: Lost Illusions Inside the Tech Bubble (St. Martin’s Press, 2024).

In this episode, Sama speaks with McKinsey senior partner Vik Malhotra, who is based in our New York office, where he counsels CEOs and corporate boards and serves as our firm’s Chairman of the Americas. Vik is also a co-author of the New York Times bestseller, CEO Excellence: The Six Mindsets That Distinguish the Best Leaders from the Rest. The two talked about what it was like to work with SoftBank founder and CEO Masayoshi Son, negotiating deals such as Softbank’s $32 billion acquisition of the British chip design company Arm Holdings, and why Alok decided to return to school in his 50s to earn a master’s degree in fine arts.

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24 Mar 2023153. Strategies to win in the new ecosystem economy00:46:12

This shift from industry sectors to customer-focused ecosystems may be the largest economic reorganization in history. What role will your company play? 

Global ecosystems are breaking down barriers separating traditional industries and organizing the economy around key customer needs. In this episode of Inside the Strategy Room, the co-authors of the new book The Ecosystem Economy: How to Lead in the New Age of Sectors Without Borders, explain how companies can secure their place in the ecosystem evolution. Miklós Dietz leads McKinsey’s strategy and corporate finance work within our Financial Services practice and Venkat Atluri heads up our Technology, Media & Telecommunications practice. 

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22 Jan 2023146. Leading with authenticity: A conversation with Bill George00:43:35

Bill George joins us to share his insights on authentic leadership–the theme of the latest edition of his best-selling book True North: Emerging Leader Edition.  Bill is the former chairman and CEO of medical-device company Medtronic and the author of four best-selling books on leadership. He is currently an Executive Fellow at Harvard Business School, where he's taught leadership since 2004. Bill currently serves on the boards of Goldman Sachs and the Mayo Clinic, and he is a trustee of the World Economic Forum. Bill recently published a new edition of True North that focuses on emerging leaders. He joined us for an online event with Carolyn Dewar, a senior partner in our San Francisco office who co-leads our CEO Excellence practice and co-authored the New York Times bestseller, CEO Excellence.  

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27 Jan 2023147. The CFO’s role in talent development00:31:06

Ankur Agrawal joins Sean Brown to discuss how finance leaders can help promote talent development within their organizations.

Ankur is a partner in our New York office and one of the leaders of our Healthcare Practice. In this episode, he talks with Sean about how CFOs have access to data, a cross-functional perspective, and an expanding role as value manager and strategy partner. They therefore have a critical role to play in ensuring that companies develop the skills, talent, mindsets, and behavior required for long-term success.

Ankur and Sean also discuss the recent MIT Sloan CFO Summit and the emerging trends for CFOs to watch in 2023. We hope you enjoy this episode. 

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27 Oct 2023181. Navigating geopolitics with Dr Richard Haass00:32:07

Dr Richard Haass shares his perspectives on how business leaders can navigate today’s complex geopolitical landscape.

Richard is a veteran diplomat and respected scholar of international relations. He has deep experience in geopolitics. His diplomatic service includes counseling Colin Powell in talks in Afghanistan and three years as the US envoy on peace negotiations in Northern Ireland. Richard led the United States Council on Foreign Relations for twenty years and is now president emeritus. He has taken on a new role as senior counselor at the investment banking advisory firm Centerview Partners. Richard has also written 17 books and in his most recent, Bill of Obligations: Ten Habits of Good Citizens, he makes the case that for American democracy to survive and hopefully thrive, the very idea of citizenship must be revised and expanded.

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10 Apr 2024201. Seven CEO insights from private equity00:43:07

Private equity firms have a well-earned reputation for elevating the performance of the companies they invest in. A cornerstone of their strategy is a relentless pursuit of operational excellence to drive efficiency and productivity. In this episode, we analyze what public company CEOs can glean from the private equity playbook to enhance their own company's performance. Our guests are John Kelleher and Radhika Ray.   

John is a senior partner in our Private Equity Special Operations group and serves as an interim in-house executive helping companies execute large PE-style transformations. John has served in multiple executive roles in the private equity industry—including as CEO—and is co-founder of the PE-CEO Alpha Institute, a partnership between McKinsey and Harvard Business School to train private equity portfolio company CEOs. 

Radhika is a partner in our Private Equity group and has over 15 years of experience in the private equity sector. She helps our clients with large-scale transformations and oversees the service line, implementing rapid labor productivity improvements.

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02 Jan 2025232. Best of 2024 - What’s new in strategy: A view from the frontlines00:32:04

Senior partners Alex D’Amico, Michael Birshan, and Andy West join us for a conversation about the latest developments in the field of strategy. They discuss how generative AI will change strategy creation, the importance of developing distinctive insights as part of the strategy process, and how to avoid social dynamics from derailing your organization’s best-laid plans.


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08 Dec 2023187. Driving innovation with generative AI00:42:51

Generative AI has been the hottest technology and business topic of 2023. Everyone knows that gen AI could be important, but how do you use it to create innovation that will genuinely advance your business?

Joining us to address that question are Laura LaBerge and Matt Banholzer.

Laura is the Global Director of our Growth Strategy and Innovation practice based in our Stamford, Connecticut office. She works with clients on digitally driven innovations, strategies, and transformations. You can contact Laura on LinkedIn here.

Matt is a partner in our Chicago office who co-leads the Growth Strategy and Innovation Practice. Matt serves organizations on innovation strategy across a range of sectors, including energy, basic materials, and agriculture. You can contact Matt here.

 


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12 May 2024204. The transformation imperative for midcap companies00:36:27

Midcap companies have vast opportunities to increase their performance and scale if they reinvent how they work. 

M
idsize companies don’t dominate the headlines and investor attention the way large corporations do, but they represent more than 40 percent of the global workforce and account for approximately one-third of most economies’ GDP.

However, the productivity of small and midsize businesses is only half that of large companies, and lower in emerging economies. These businesses have vast opportunities to increase their performance and scale.

In this episode, we discuss how midcaps can seize the opportunity to transform themselves and reach a significantly higher level of performance.

Joining us are Zakir Gaibi, a senior partner in McKinsey’s Johannesburg office, Mauricio Janauskas a senior partner in the Santiago office, and Kedar Naik is a partner in the Brussels office. You can read their article Unleashing the power of midcap companies on McKinsey.com

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09 Feb 2024195. Why strategists should embrace imperfection00:37:08

We're joined by Charles Conn and Rob McLean, AM, the co-authors of The Imperfectionists: Strategic Mindsets for Uncertain Times.

Charles is an investor, environmentalist, and entrepreneur. He co-founded Monograph, a venture firm, and was previously CEO of the Rhodes Trust in Oxford. He is the Board Chair of Patagonia and sits on The Nature Conservancy European Council. He was the founding CEO of Ticketmaster-Citysearch and a partner at McKinsey & Company. 

Rob is a Director Emeritus of McKinsey & Company, a Trustee of The Nature Conservancy in Australia and Asia, and a Director of the Paul Ramsay Foundation, Australia’s largest philanthropic foundation. He is the former Dean of the Australian Graduate School of Management. He was a Fulbright Scholar at the Columbia University Graduate School of Business.

Rob and Charles' books can be found here: https://bulletproofproblemsolving.com/

You can also listen to their previous interview on Inside the Strategy Room or read the edited transcript on McKinsey.com. 


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13 Sep 2023175. What's next in private markets?00:45:57

We speak  Brian Vickery and John Spivey, two authors of the 2023 McKinsey Global Private Markets Review. Brian and John join us to explore recent trends in private markets. They analyze why the markets have enjoyed strong tailwinds since the depths of the Global Financial Crisis and look at the origins of the recent slowdown. Will private markets continue to face headwinds? How did private market performance compare to public markets? That’s what we’re here to find out.


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15 Nov 2024225. Alex Gorsky, former chair and CEO of Johnson & Johnson00:51:39

This week, we feature a conversation between Alex Gorsky, former chair and CEO of Johnson & Johnson, and Andy West, senior partner and global coleader of our Strategy and Corporate Finance Practice.

Alex discusses his approach to developing strategy, the challenges and rewards of developing a successful innovation and M&A pipeline, and his approach to decision-making and building a star team. 

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19 Aug 2023172. Taking an investor's perspective on your business00:27:33

In this episode, we explore why and how business leaders, and CFOs in particular, should try to see their businesses as investors see them.  

We're joined by Chantal Lorbeer, a partner in our Munich office who advises global chemicals companies on their strategy, growth transformations, as well as their operating models and portfolio moves. Chantal co-leads our Strategy & Corporate Finance Practice in Germany was well as chemicals capital-markets perspective globally.

Also joining us is Justin Sanders, a partner in our New York office who co-leads our shareholder teardown team, bringing a private equity investor perspective to corporate clients. Justin also founded our work helping clients prepare for, and respond to, activist investors. 

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23 Jan 2024193. Eight keys to excelling as a chief of staff00:41:17

A chief of staff can be instrumental to a CEO's success while also advancing their own career. While the role’s variability and intensity make it challenging, they also make it exciting.

We're joined by Blair Epstein, Poppy Johnson, and Connor Rochford to discuss the eight pieces of advice they have distilled from hundreds of interviews with those who have mastered the role.


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13 Aug 2023170. Building a world-class digital finance function00:29:35

The finance function and CFO's rope are evolving rapidly as digitization accelerates the pace of change amidst continuing economic and geopolitical volatility. Two expert colleagues join us to discuss how CFOs can help build world-class finance functions capable of withstanding external shocks and staying ahead of the competition. 

Bjørnar Jensen is a senior partner in our Zurich office, and Liz Fasciana, is a senior partner in our London office. Both work extensively with CFOs around the world.

They spoke with Sean at McKinsey’s CFO Forum in London in June.

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12 Jul 2024211. 10 questions boards should ask about cybersecurity00:41:43

In today's episode, we discuss the top 10 questions boards should ask to ensure comprehensive cybersecurity oversight. We’re joined by Justin Greis, a partner in our Chicago office who leads McKinsey’s cybersecurity work in North America; Daniel Wallance, a senior expert in our New York office who focuses on cybersecurity and technology resilience in financial institutions, critical infrastructure companies, and public sector organizations; and Vinnie Liu, who is the CEO and co-founder of the cybersecurity firm Bishop Fox


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21 Mar 2024199. Bringing innovation to a not-for-profit setting00:30:55

Innovation in a not-for-profit context involves measuring success in terms of returns on mission rather than returns to shareholders. In this episode, McKinsey innovation expert Erik Roth talks with Sajit Joseph, the chief innovation officer of the American Red Cross, about how the 142-year-old institution began and continues to carry out its innovation journey.

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12 Jan 2024192. Using M&A to launch a transformation00:46:54

We discuss the role M&A can play in the launch and success of large-scale transformations. Our guests are Chris Hagedorn and Alex Liu. Chris is a leader in our Transformation Practice, where he designs and executes comprehensive transformations, including M&A integration and value capture to achieve rapid and sustainable performance improvement for clients.

Alex is a leader in our M&A Practice. He works closely with senior leadership teams on large-scale mergers and brings expertise in realizing revenue-based synergies. 

Chris and Alex's recent McKinsey.com article: When a transaction forges a transformation 


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23 May 2024206. Are you ready for a surge in M&A?00:46:02

Today’s discussion covers several topics from our recent report on top M&A trends. We’re joined by senior partners Jake Henry and Mieke Van Oostende, who co-lead our M&A work globally, and senior partners Michael Birshan and Andy West, who co-lead our Strategy and Corporate Finance Practice.

We discuss the changing landscape of M&A, the shift from consolidation to growth and capability building, the importance of integration planning, the role of private equity, and the impact of regulatory review cycles. We also touch upon the concept of 'transact to transform' and the increasing trend of alliances and joint ventures.


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23 Apr 2023156. M&A insights and outlook for 202300:26:48

Today's episode comes directly from our recent European M&A Conference in London, which we co-hosted with Goldman Sachs. Sean spoke with the global leaders of our M&A practice after the conference to get their read on the climate for mergers, acquisitions, and divestitures. Mieke Van Oostende is a senior partner based in Brussels whose client work is focused on financial institutions, and Jake Henry is a senior partner in Chicago who previously co-led our work in life sciences.

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03 Aug 2023168. Geopolitical resilience: What it is, why companies need it, and how they can develop it00:32:26

Today's episode focuses on how companies can manage risks and seize opportunities emerging from shifting geopolitical trends. We’ll talk about why organizations need to strategically invest in capabilities, people, processes, structures, and technology to navigate the risks arising from an evolving and fraught geopolitical landscape.


Joining us is Ziad Haider, McKinsey's global director of geopolitical risk, Leo Geddes, a partner based in London who co-leads our geopolitics client service globally, and Olivia White, a senior partner in our Bay Area office who is also a director of the McKinsey Global Institute.

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18 Apr 2023155. Deciphering the economy’s mixed signals00:48:25

As volatility persists, companies need to be ready for a range of macroeconomic scenarios. 

Three authors of a recent article on the economic outlook for 2023 and beyond discuss how businesses can prepare for what may be a challenging couple of years. Michael Birshan is the global co-leader of McKinsey’s Strategy and Corporate Finance Practice and serves on the McKinsey Global Institute Council. Ezra Greenberg leads our work on macroeconomic scenarios and trends globally and is co-leader of strategic transformation services in North America. Ida Kristensen is global co-leader of the Risk and Resilience Practice.  

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18 Aug 2023171. The Committed Innovator: How Shopify approaches innovation00:33:19

In this latest episode in our Committed Innovator series Erik Roth speaks with Harley Finkelstein, an entrepreneur and innovator who is president of the multichannel commerce platform, Shopify.

Their conversation is essential listening for anyone interested in learning how to create and build a business that scales. Harley and Erik speak about what it means to be an entrepreneur, why starting a side business makes sense, Shopify's company culture, and how the t-shirt business Harley started in college led directly to him serving as the president of Shopify.

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24 Jan 2025235. Reimagining board communications 00:46:39

We discuss the role of technology in improving board communications, the challenges boards face in managing information, and how AI and cloud-based platforms can help streamline board meetings and improve decision-making.

Our guests are Niamh Corbett, the Head of Americas for Board Intelligence, McKinsey senior partner Celia Huber, who leads our North American Board Services Practice, and actor, filmmaker, and entrepreneur Edward Norton, who is also the co-founder and head of strategy at Zeck—a cloud-based software platform designed specifically for boards.


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Board Intelligence provides management reporting software and a board portal that unlocks your business’s performance and governance.

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27 Dec 2023190. Best of 2023 - Strategies to win in the new ecosystem economy00:46:12

This shift from industry sectors to customer-focused ecosystems may be the largest economic reorganization in history. What role will your company play? 

Global ecosystems are breaking down barriers separating traditional industries and organizing the economy around key customer needs. In this episode of Inside the Strategy Room, the co-authors of the new book The Ecosystem Economy: How to Lead in the New Age of Sectors Without Borders, explain how companies can secure their place in the ecosystem evolution. Miklós Dietz leads McKinsey’s strategy and corporate finance work within our Financial Services practice and Venkat Atluri heads up our Technology, Media & Telecommunications practice. 

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27 Sep 2024219. How leadership is changing for a changing world00:38:53

This week, we’re joined by senior partners Kurt Strovink and Ramesh Srinivasan, coauthors, along with Hans-Werner Kaas and Dana Maor, of a new McKinsey book, The Journey of Leadership: How CEOs Learn to Lead from the Inside Out. It is the first-ever look behind the curtain at McKinsey’s step-by-step approach to helping leaders transform both professionally and personally. It introduces a new, more human-centric approach that is helping some of the best leaders achieve results by cultivating humility, confidence, vulnerability, and resilience in themselves and others.


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19 Dec 2024230. How boards can tackle geopolitical risk00:39:23

Corporate boards face increased complexity today, with heightened geopolitical risk key among the concerns they must consider as they guide the companies they serve. In this episode, three experts on boards and geopolitics discuss how boards can best adapt to this new normal. Dominic Barton is board chair for the metals and mining company Rio Tinto, and also for the impact investment firm Leapfrog investments. He's also a senior advisor and partner at the AI investment firm Radical Ventures. Previously, Dom served as Canada’s ambassador to China. And before that he was a McKinsey senior partner who served as our global managing partner for three terms. Frithjof Lund is a senior partner who leads our Board Services Practice as well as our Norway office. He helps boards of directors improve corporate governance. Ziad Haider is a partner and our global director of geopolitical risk. He is based in our Singapore office, and counsels CXOs and boards on how to build out their capabilities to better understand, monitor, and mitigate geopolitical risk.

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15 Mar 2024198. Six strategies for growth outperformance00:41:44

Fewer than one in four companies outpace their industry peers on revenue and profit growth. We discuss new research that reveals the six mindsets and strategies that set these growth outperformers apart.

We're joined by Rebecca Doherty, a partner in our Bay Area office and co-leader of our Strategic Growth and Innovation practice, Jill Zucker, a senior partner who co-leads our global growth transformation work, and Kate Seigel, a partner in our Detroit office who advises clients on growth strategy and execution using M&A and organic approaches.



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23 Dec 2022143. The Committed Innovator: Israel’s start-up ecosystem00:34:12

Despite its small domestic market, Israel has managed to build a vibrant start-up scene that competes with those of much larger countries. In this episode, two leaders of Israel’s innovation culture, Avi Hasson and Chemi Peres, talk with McKinsey’s innovation leader Erik Roth in this first in a series of episodes on innovation in Israel. Hasson leads a not-for-profit, Startup Nation Central, that promotes Israel’s start-up sector, while Peres leads a venture capital firm, Pitango, and a not-for-profit, The Peres Center for Peace and Innovation, that promotes peace and innovation which was started by Chemi’s father, Shimon Peres, the former prime minister of Israel.

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02 Mar 2023151. Voices of CEO excellence: Blackstone’s Stephen Schwarzman00:48:29

The chairman, CEO, and co-founder of the global investment management firm traces his journey as a business leader, financial innovator, and philanthropist.

Stephen Schwarzman co-founded The Blackstone Group in 1985 and grew it into one of the largest investment firms in the world, with nearly $1 trillion in assets under management and businesses in private equity, real estate, and credit, among other areas. In this episode, Schwarzman talks with Vik Malhotra, former chairman of McKinsey’s Americas region, and senior partner David Schoeman about his approach to leadership and talent and how he assesses investment opportunities. 

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28 Jun 2024210. Transformation and new business building00:42:57

We discuss the challenges and opportunities of building new businesses within an organization during a transformation. How should business leaders balance the need for transformation with pursuing new business ventures? What is the role of strategy in business reinvention? What evidence is there that optimizing the core business and building new businesses translates into higher performance? 

Our guests are senior partner Chris Hagedorn and partners Matt Banholzer, and Ryan Nguyen.


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08 Aug 2024213. Bonus: Starting a new CFO role00:18:46

This week, Yuval Atsmon, the newly appointed head of McKinsey's finance function, joins us to share his perspectives on the chief finance role.

Yuval is also a client-serving senior partner in our firm's Technology, Media & Telecommunications, and Consumer Packaged Goods practices, where he’s focused on helping companies with growth-led transformations. Yuval is based in London, where we recorded our conversation during our 22nd annual global CFO forum.

Our conversation delves into the evolving role of CFOs and the challenges today’s finance leaders face, from managing uncertainty and volatility to strategic planning and performance management. We’ll also discuss the impact of generative AI on finance, exploring how it can transform traditional processes and decision-making.


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14 Oct 2022137. Transformational performance management00:36:39

The elements of an effective performance-management system are relatively simple, but integrating them into a business’ fundamental operating system can be more complex than it seems.

In this episode, we discuss recent innovations in performance management that business leaders can implement across the planning and performance management cycle. We share best practices for how to incorporate energy transition and ESG themes into performance management, how to adopt an agile goal-setting approach, and we look at how best-in-class companies are adopting a single digital approach to reporting. 

Our guests include Christian Grube, who leads our CFO service line in Germany and serves clients in the automotive, healthcare, and manufacturing Industries. Roel Hoyer, who co-leads McKinsey's O&G strategy service line, focusing on serving oil and gas, and OFSE clients, and Rohan Jain, who serves South East Asian clients on sustainability transformations, new business building, and tech-enabled transformations.

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20 Feb 2024196. A guide for boards on generative AI: Four questions for management teams00:48:48

Boards can play an essential role in engaging management teams to ensure they fully explore the potential of generative AI, even beyond their comfort zone. In this episode, we discuss the most important questions boards need to ask senior executives as their companies move to adopt this technology. Our guests are experienced in both technology and board practices. 

Frithjof Lund is our managing partner in Norway and leads our firm’s Board Services Practice globally. 

Douglas Merrill is a partner in our Southern California office and was the Chief Information Officer and VP of Engineering at Google before joining McKinsey. 

Alexander Sukharevsky is a senior partner in London and the global leader of QuantumBlack, McKinsey's AI arm.

Aaron Rosenberg is a partner at Radical Ventures where he leads the firm's European and London investment activities and operations. 


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Four essential questions for boards to ask about generative AI 

The economic potential of generative AI: The next productivity frontier

What every CEO should know about generative AI

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29 Jul 2024212. Do you have what it takes to be a CFO?00:44:52

Leading the finance function of a large company comes with a broad mandate requiring wide-ranging capabilities and experience. This week, three experts join us to explain how CFO hopefuls can acquire the credentials that matter most today.

Ankur Agrawal is a partner in our New York office and a leader in our Strategy and Corporate Finance and Healthcare Practices. He also heads our CFO and Finance Practice in the Americas

Dr Karolina Sauer-Sidor is a partner in our Madrid office and a leader in our Strategy and Corporate Finance, and Technology, Media, and Telecom Practices. She has led several finance transformations and supported multiple CFOs as they have started in the role.

Chris Halmy is the former Chief Financial Officer of Ally Financial. Chris was instrumental in restructuring Ally into a leading U.S. digital bank and consumer lender. Now retired from Ally, Chris sits on the boards of directors at Burford Capital, Western Alliance Bank, and Mercury Financial, and serves as a special advisor to McKinsey.


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How to prepare for the CFO role

Starting up ad a new CFO

Faster, smarter, bolder: How midtenure CFOs shift into a higher gear

Episode 162. Why today’s CFOs require ambidexterity

Episode 158. Seven mindsets and practices for new CFOs

Episode 147. The CFO’s role in talent development

 

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12 May 2023158. Seven mindsets and practices for new CFOs00:49:40

Congratulations, you’re a new CFO—now hit the ground running with these seven key mindsets and practices that effective CFOs adopt from day one.

Joining Sean for this episode is Andy West, the global co-leader of McKinsey's Strategy and Corporate Finance Practice, Ankur Agrawal, a partner based in our New York office who leads our CFO and Capital Markets Practice in the Americas, Christian Grube, a partner in our Munich office, and he leads our CFO and Capital Markets practice across Europe, and Lauren Cooks Levitan, the CFO of Faire, a global wholesale e-commerce marketplace.

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06 Feb 2025237. How Judy Marks leads Otis Worldwide Corporation through all manner of change00:32:43

Judy Marks is one of the few dozen women who lead Fortune 500 companies. She joined Connecticut-based Otis Elevator in 2017 as President, and was appointed CEO in 2019. After leading the company’s 2020 spinoff to become an independent publicly traded company, she was appointed Chair as well. Additionally, Judy serves on the board of Caterpillar.

In this episode McKinsey Senior Partner and North America Chair Eric Kutcher talks with Judy about how she thinks about geopolitical shifts, technological change, and leading 71,000 employees in more than 200 countries and territories around the globe.


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Getting fit for growth: The leadership mindsets and behaviors that matter

Opening doors for women leaders: An interview with Caroline Feeney

CEO Perspectives

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05 May 2023157. Two former Nike senior executives discuss retail growth strategies00:23:17

What does purposeful growth look like in the retail sector? In this episode, McKinsey’s Brian Gregg speaks with two former senior executives at Nike, Christiana Shi and Stuart Hogue, about the strategies that enabled them to lead productive teams in the retail sector. The conversation touches on the importance of nurturing talent, building diverse teams, and identifying opportunities for individual and organizational growth.

We are sharing today’s episode as part of an ongoing collaboration with our Growth, Marketing, and Sales Practice on the topic of growth strategy.  It is also the second episode of the Practice's new podcast called C-Suite Growth Talks, which will feature conversations with leading executives about how they are successfully choosing growth, by aligning around a shared mindset, strategy, and capabilities.  

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21 Nov 2024226. Helping India’s e-commerce leapfrog into the future00:39:27

McKinsey innovation leader Erik Roth speaks with Shiprocket cofounder and CEO Saahil Goel about how he built his e-commerce logistics company into a highly successful platform that is helping launch new entrepreneurs all over India.


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13 Jul 2023166. Juvencio Maeztu, Deputy CEO and CFO of Ingka Group (IKEA)00:24:09

Juvencio Maeztu is Deputy CEO and CFO of Ingka Group. Ingka Group is IKEA’s primary retail organization and represents roughly 90% of its global sales. Juvencio joined IKEA in 2001 and prior to starting his current role, he led IKEA India as CEO for over 6 years.

Juvencio sat down with Sean Brown in London to discuss the company's triple bottom line: successfully meeting customer needs, achieving financial outperformance, and ensuring a sustainable environmental footprint.

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23 Jun 2023163. The strategy leader's evolving mandate00:40:43

The chief strategy officer’s role has expanded significantly over the past decade. We look at what it takes to be a successful strategist today.

In this episode we discuss the ways in which strategy leaders’ responsibilities have expanded significantly over the past decade, with many adding other functions to their roles. Sean is joined by Emma Gibbs, a partner in our London office who leads our Strategy and Corporate Finance Practice in the U.K., Ireland, and Israel. Emma serves institutions in highly regulated industries, helping develop strategies at the interface of the public and private sectors. Na'ama Alpert, a consultant in our Southern California office whose client experience spans private equity, technology, and electric vehicles. And Whitney Zimmerman, an associate partner in our London office. Whitney leads our research on the role of the chief strategy officer and strategy organizations. He helps client CSOs define their role and mandate. 

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Creating more value with corporate strategy

Strategy Beyond the Hockey Stick 

What Makes a Great Chief Strategy Officer

Rethinking the role of the strategist 

Have you tested your strategy lately?

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03 Nov 2023182. CEO alpha: How to cultivate great leaders for greater gains00:33:53

For any company, having a CEO who makes effective, strategic decisions can help teams go far. CEOs who excel at this have what McKinsey senior partner Sacha Ghai calls “CEO alpha.” In today’s episode, Sacha speaks with Brian Vickery, a partner in our Boston office who hosts our Deal Volume podcast which is focused on private capital. During today’s discussion, they’ll cover a range of topics, including the implications of CEO Alpha for chief executives who are leading private equity portfolio companies, the different mandates these CEOs face, the steps they can take to create alpha, and how they are navigating an increasingly volatile economic and geopolitical environment.  


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The CEO alpha: The advantages of exceptional leadership

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