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16 Dec 2024 | How to Stay Grounded While Traveling | 00:21:04 | |
How to Stay Grounded While Traveling In follow-up to the Performance by Design episode, Adam and David Morrison discuss how to stay squared away while traveling. About Clay Scroggins: Clay Scroggins is a sought-after speaker and leadership coach, known for his practical and engaging approach to leadership. He is the author of three books, most notably How to Lead When You're Not In Charge. With a passion for helping leaders thrive in any environment, Clay brings valuable insights and real-world experience to this podcast and his weekly email.
About Adam Tarnow: Adam Tarnow is a recovering CPA and now a partner at PeopleWorks International, where he heads up the Leadership Development Practice. He is the co-author of The Edge: How to Stand Out by Showing You're All In and shares his insights on leadership through his Substack, On Leadership. | |||
21 Nov 2022 | How to Deal With Someone You Don't Like | 00:19:39 | |
Do you like everyone you work with? If so, then feel free to skip this episode. For everyone else, Clay and Adam suggest a few practical ways to deal with those people at work who do a great job of pushing your buttons. Enjoy! | |||
07 Mar 2022 | LinkedIn Life Hacks (featuring Casey Graham) | 00:23:52 | |
{cue the beat} Guess who's back? Back again. Casey's back...tell a -- {record scratch} Sorry, sorry, sorry. That was uncalled for. We're better than that. We'll leave 2002 alone. But, Casey Graham is back and he's got a lot to say about LinkedIn and why he asks everyone at Gravy Solutions to share their "aspirational intent." Get your pencil and paper ready. You're gonna want to write down the wisdom he's about to drop. Enjoy! _______________ | |||
19 Jun 2023 | How to Get to Level 5 | 00:18:26 | |
What does it take to become a "level five leader?" Jim Collins gave us an answer in 2001. Today, Adam and Clay discuss if his observations still hold true today. Also: a few bonus summer travel tips (for FREE!). Welcome to How to Lead. | |||
25 Oct 2021 | Bringing Ideas to Your Boss with Louie Giglio | 00:27:05 | |
Learning how to slide up beside your boss with new ideas doesn’t have to be such a guessing game. Louie Giglio unpacks a few effective practices of emerging leaders hoping to influence the boss with their new ideas.
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07 Oct 2024 | One Tool Every Team Needs to Use | 00:23:56 | |
One Tool Every Team Needs to Use Clay and Adam encourage teams to use a simple and effective tool to improve performance and harmony. Mizzen+Main Use the code HOWTOLEAD to get 15% off your first purchase at https://www.mizzenandmain.com/ About Clay Scroggins: Clay Scroggins is a sought-after speaker and leadership coach, known for his practical and engaging approach to leadership. He is the author of three books, most notably How to Lead When You're Not In Charge. With a passion for helping leaders thrive in any environment, Clay brings valuable insights and real-world experience to this podcast and his weekly email.
About Adam Tarnow: Adam Tarnow is a recovering CPA and now a partner at PeopleWorks International, where he heads up the Leadership Development Practice. He is the co-author of The Edge: How to Stand Out by Showing You're All In and shares his insights on leadership through his Substack, On Leadership. | |||
26 Feb 2024 | Avoiding Unspoken Criticism | 00:21:51 | |
"Unspoken criticism explodes like a dirty bomb." - Kim Scott There is a small but mighty phenomenon plaguing many teams. This phenomenon is the inability to engage in difficult conversations, especially about small things. Today, Clay and Adam provide a few practical ways to avoid unspoken criticism exploding like a dirty bomb on your team. | |||
04 Jul 2022 | Gen Z and Why Leadership Development is Important Now | 00:29:18 | |
The great Holly Tate (SVP of Growth at Leadr) is on the podcast today talking about all things Gen Z and leadership development. If you have any young 20-somethings on your team, Holly has some interesting insights and practical ways to engage and develop this newest generation to hit the workforce. You can learn more about Leadr and its mission to develop 1,000,000 leaders at www.leadr.com | |||
10 Oct 2022 | An Easy Way to Impress Your Boss | 00:17:34 | |
There are a few things just about every team leader loves:
Why positive energy? Because, at times, leadership can feel lonely. Strange huh? How can this be when team leaders seem to be surrounded by people all day? They can feel like they are the only one on the team who cares about the following:
When you feel like you are the only one who cares, it produces a feeling of loneliness. That said, one easy and simple way to get your boss' attention is to bring positive energy to your team. How can you do that authentically? It all starts with listening to this episode of How to Lead. Now, If you don't want to impress your boss, we got nothing for you this week. If that's you, feel free to skip today's episode, and we'll catch you next week! | |||
06 Mar 2023 | The Four Types of Leadership Doubt (Featuring Robin Pou) - Part 1 of 2 | 00:23:49 | |
Robin Pou joins Adam today to discuss the four types of leadership doubt and how to overcome each one. This is part 1 of 2. If you want to stay in touch with Robin, you can sign up for his weekly leadership newsletter at https://theconfidentleader.com/ | |||
10 Jan 2022 | How Leadership is Changing | 00:10:57 | |
We have really good news and good news. REALLY GOOD NEWS: If you listen to this episode before 1 PM EST on January 11, 2022, you can still sign up for Clay's free event entitled, Three Ways to Future Proof Your Career. GOOD NEWS: If you listen to this episode after 1 PM EST on January 11, 2022, you can't sign up for the free event, but you can pick up a copy of his latest book, The Aspiring Leader's Guide to the Future. _________ | |||
09 Sep 2024 | Coaching Millennials and Gen Z (Part 2) | 00:19:59 | |
Clay and Adam recently partnered with their friends at RightNow Media @ Work to host a webinar on coaching Millennials and Gen Z. This episode is the second part of that webinar. __________ About Clay Scroggins: Clay Scroggins is a sought-after speaker and leadership coach, known for his practical and engaging approach to leadership. He is the author of three books, most notably How to Lead When You're Not In Charge. With a passion for helping leaders thrive in any environment, Clay brings valuable insights and real-world experience to this podcast and his weekly email.
About Adam Tarnow: Adam Tarnow is a recovering CPA and now a partner at PeopleWorks International, where he heads up the Leadership Development Practice. He is the co-author of The Edge: How to Stand Out by Showing You're All In and shares his insights on leadership through his Substack, On Leadership. | |||
11 Nov 2024 | Developing a Culture of Generosity (featuring Molly Matthews) | 00:24:23 | |
Many people think of generosity only in terms of money, but Molly Matthews believes it goes much deeper. Building a culture of generosity not only enhances workplace culture but also drives strong business results. As CEO of Pushpay, a digital platform that empowers churches and nonprofits to manage donations and connect with their communities, Molly has seen firsthand the impact of generosity on organizational success. Learn more about Pushpay at Pushpay.com. | |||
31 Jul 2023 | The Power of Nonverbal Communication (Featuring Natalie Farr) | 00:33:48 | |
Natalie Farr joins Adam on this episode to discuss nonverbal communication's power. Natalie is an Adjunct Professor of Communication at Dallas Baptist University, where she's been researching and teaching on this subject for over seven years. Connect with Natalie on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nataliefarr/ | |||
03 Apr 2023 | How to Avoid Burnout | 00:12:26 | |
The struggle is real. Today, Adam and Clay share a few ideas on how to avoid burnout. | |||
08 Jan 2024 | How Jon Acuff Thinks About Goals (featuring Jon Acuff) | 00:36:56 | |
THIS EPISODE IS SPONSORED BY RIGHT NOW MEDIA @ WORK NY Times bestselling author Jon Acuff (https://jonacuff.com/) joins Clay and Adam on the podcast. Jon's latest book is all about goal setting. Today he shares how he approaches this important topic. RightNow Media @ Work is a voluntary faith-based library of more than 25,000 videos on topics such as leadership, personal development, marriage, parenting, and more. Visit rightnowmedia.org/howtolead to find out how RightNow Media @ Work can help you develop leaders and care for your employees. | |||
04 Dec 2023 | What if I'm a better leader than my boss? | 00:22:48 | |
Adam and Clay take a walk to the old HTL Mailbox (which can be found by emailing: info [at] HowToLead [dot] work). Today's question is a doozy. "What should I do if I'm a better leader than my boss?" Curious to know the answer? Then it's time to stop reading this silly episode description and click "play" already! | |||
14 Nov 2022 | The Power of Motivation Experiments | 00:19:51 | |
Today all How to Lead listeners are receiving a free gift! The first chapter from the audio version of Adam Tarnow and David Morrison's new book, The Edge: How to Stand Out by Showing You're All In. In this chapter, you'll learn "why" it's so important to find your "why" and you'll also hear three simple ways to try and discover your "why." If you enjoy this chapter and want to hear more, head on over to Amazon and pick up a copy (available in paperback, hardback, Kindle, and Audible). ______________ Helpful Links:
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24 Jan 2022 | How to Create Lasting Habits | 00:23:54 | |
"In general, I'm not a very disciplined person...I don't like counting things. I don't like counting my spending...I don't like counting my calories...I don't like counting how many days I've worked out." Listen to this episode to learn which host dropped this confession bomb on the podcast. If the one who said this could develop helpful and lasting habits in their life, then there is hope for all of us! Enjoy! ________ | |||
12 Dec 2022 | Why Your Personal Brand Matters | 00:19:02 | |
You might not know this, but you have a brand. "But I don't own a business; how can this be?" You know how we you see a logo or an advertisement you instinctively have a gut feeling about the company? In your eyes, that gut feeling is the company's brand. What we do for companies, people also do for us. When people see your name, they have a gut feeling. That gut feeling is your brand. Today on How to Lead we unpack a few simple ways to strengthen your personal brand. | |||
22 Aug 2022 | Redeeming Accountability | 00:16:40 | |
Accountability gets a bad rap. Some people love it, but most do not. Why is that? Why do we have such a troubled relationship with this concept? That is exactly what Adam and Clay unpack in this week's episode of How to Lead. In less than 17 minutes you'll hear three simple ways to use this powerful, but misunderstood concept with your team. | |||
11 Jul 2022 | Avoid the "Bait & Switch" with New Hires | 00:15:23 | |
Unfortunately, for many organizations, there is a disconnect between they way they treat potential hires and new hires. Potential hires are taken to fancy dinners, introduced to important people, and promised the world. New hires are given a laptop, a cubicle, and a pat on the back. This, can feel like a bait & switch. Healthy teams work hard to change this. In this episode, Clay and Adam discuss why it's important to be more thoughtful with your new hires and throw in some practical ways to make a new hire feel welcome. Along the way, Clay impersonates a sushi chef and Adam impersonates a GenZer. Welcome to How to Lead! _______________________ Have a question you would like to be considered for a future episode? Please send us an email: Info@HowToLead.Work | |||
30 May 2022 | Win the Morning, Win the Day | 00:11:52 | |
Quick question: how's your relationship with The Morning doing?
If you find yourself nodding your head in agreement with "bad terms," we've got some good news. You don't need to start going to couples therapy to improve the relationship. All you need to do is listen to this episode of How to Lead. Enjoy! | |||
14 Aug 2023 | The Great "Scapegoat" of Communication | 00:19:45 | |
"Our communication around here is terrible!" If we've heard that complaint once, we've heard it a thousand times. Can this problem be fixed? Can teams actually begin communicating better? Listen to find out. | |||
22 May 2023 | Leader, Your Words Matter | 00:11:57 | |
Clay talks about a recent experience and how it reminded him of the power of a leader's words. | |||
27 Nov 2023 | Drop One Word and Sound More Confident | 00:22:28 | |
Clay went to Colorado to speak at a conference, but he walked away learning something important about confidence. | |||
05 Aug 2024 | Culture is the New Leadership - Part 1 (featuring Ben Ortlip) | 00:31:11 | |
Entrepreneur and author Ben Ortlip joins Adam to discuss his latest book, Culture is the New Leadership. This is the first part of a two-part conversation. Pick up a copy of this book on Amazon. Learn more about Ben and the CultureMRI. | |||
05 Jun 2023 | Reflect and Correct | 00:12:42 | |
Question: if you could start your career over again, what would you do the same, and what would you change? That's the topic today on How to Lead. Enjoy! | |||
21 Oct 2024 | Avoiding Miscommunication on Your Team | 00:19:05 | |
Avoiding Miscommunication on Your Team Clay and Adam discuss five ways to avoid miscommunication on your team. About Clay Scroggins: Clay Scroggins is a sought-after speaker and leadership coach, known for his practical and engaging approach to leadership. He is the author of three books, most notably How to Lead When You're Not In Charge. With a passion for helping leaders thrive in any environment, Clay brings valuable insights and real-world experience to this podcast and his weekly email.
About Adam Tarnow: Adam Tarnow is a recovering CPA and now a partner at PeopleWorks International, where he heads up the Leadership Development Practice. He is the co-author of The Edge: How to Stand Out by Showing You're All In and shares his insights on leadership through his Substack, On Leadership. | |||
13 Dec 2021 | How to Be Optimistic (Without Faking It) | 00:26:09 | |
A pessimistic CPA and a rainbow puking unicorn walk into a bar to record a podcast... That basically describes this episode. A natural pessimist (Adam) and a natural optimist (Clay) discuss what they are both learning about the power of optimism and how you can become a more optimistic leader (without faking it). __________________________________________________ To learn more about Clay's "Influence Sprint" check out: https://www.influencesprint.com/ | |||
15 Nov 2021 | Leading with Resilience with Sheryl Sandberg | 00:21:17 | |
A few months ago, Clay had the privilege of sitting down with Facebook Chief Operating Officer Sheryl Sandberg. Sheryl is one of the most powerful leaders in the world, but Clay also found her to be one of the most gracious, kind, and thoughtful leaders he’s had the opportunity to interview.
In this episode of the How to Lead podcast, you’ll learn
How Sheryl became COO of Facebook
The importance of resilience
Leading yourself through grief
The habit of gratitude
How to grow from pain
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13 Mar 2023 | The Four Types of Leadership Doubt (Featuring Robin Pou) - Part 2 of 2 | 00:26:06 | |
Robin Pou joins Adam today to discuss the four types of leadership doubt and how to overcome each one. This is part 2 of 2. If you want to stay in touch with Robin, you can sign up for his weekly leadership newsletter at https://theconfidentleader.com/ | |||
12 Sep 2022 | Leaders and Their Phones | 00:19:04 | |
If a leader improves their relationship with their mobile device, will it improve their ability to lead?
Chalk that up as a question you've probably never asked, right?
Well, today that ends.
Joey Odom joins Adam on the podcast to share his perspective on this question.
One thing you need to know about Joey: he LOVES his phone and has no plans to ever stop using it.
However, Joey would also say that for years, he didn't have the best relationship with his phone and it was starting to negatively impact his life.
You're gonna love hearing his story, how he has worked to improve this relationship, and the positive impact it's having on his life.
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01 Aug 2022 | How to Start a Meeting (Part 1 of 3) | 00:14:38 | |
The pandemic might have killed off the acceptability of coughing in public, but it sure didn't kill off meetings. Love 'em or hate 'em, meetings are a part of organizational life. They are not going anywhere. The key to a great meeting is a strong start. In this first of three episodes on the topic of meetings, Adam and Clay give you a few simple & easy ways to ensure you start your meetings on the right foot. Next week: they'll discuss how to run a great meeting. | |||
04 Mar 2024 | Power Moves: Knowing When It's Time To Leave | 00:17:01 | |
This episode is about power moves...on social media and in your career. "When does one know they are ready to host an 'ask me anything?'" AND "When does one know it's time to move on from your current job?" Welcome to How to Lead ! | |||
10 Jul 2023 | Realistic Optimism | 00:15:44 | |
What should a leader do when they realize they live in a world that seems to be infatuated with negativity and pessimism? | |||
06 Feb 2023 | Why You Need to Turn Pro (Part 1 of 2) | 00:17:33 | |
"What ails us is that we are living our lives as amateurs." - Steven Pressfield, Turning Pro Adam and Clay talk about what it means to make the transition from being an amateur to a professional. Part 1 of 2 | |||
15 Jul 2024 | Focusing on Others is a Mutually Beneficial Activity | 00:12:23 | |
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08 Nov 2021 | How to Crush Your First Ninety Days | 00:24:22 | |
Aspiring and engaged leaders have something in common: they get promoted or recruited to leave their current job. This means that sooner or later, you will be leading a new team or have a new role on your current team. When this happens, how can you make sure you CRUSH the first ninety days? By listening to this episode, that's how. We give you three simple ideas that we guarantee will set you up for success. If they don't, return this episode, and we'll give you your money back. No questions asked. Wait, this is all free. Nevermind. Sorry about that. Enjoy! | |||
05 Feb 2024 | How to Make Reading a Habit | 00:20:09 | |
Today, Clay and Adam start talking about bad questions to ask someone at a party and end up talking about Adam's Seven Rules of Reading. | |||
21 Mar 2022 | Should I Stay or Should I Go? | 00:14:57 | |
Clay gets asked this question often. Why? Because after working at one organization for almost twenty years, he decided to leave and start a new professional adventure. This question, however, is more relevant than ever. The past two years' events have all of us asking existential questions, like this one. So, if you are contemplating a career change or know someone considering a career change, this episode is just for you! ______________ | |||
14 Apr 2025 | How to Avoid the Curse of Knowledge | 00:18:22 | |
Most leaders overestimate what their team knows. We assume too much, communicate too little, and then get frustrated when people miss the mark. In this episode, Clay and Adam unpack the Curse of Knowledge —the tendency to forget what it’s like not to know something and share 4 practical ways to lead with more clarity: ✅ Assume nobody knows anything ✅ Define success clearly and repeatedly ✅ Repeat yourself more than you think you should ✅ Ask “What’s unclear?” instead of “Any questions?” About Clay Scroggins: Clay Scroggins is a sought-after speaker and leadership coachknown for his practical and engaging approach to leadership. He is the author of three books, most notably How to Lead When You're Not In Charge. With a passion for helping leaders thrive in any environment, Clay brings valuable insights and real-world experience to this podcast and his weekly email. Learn more at ClayScroggins.com About Adam Tarnow: Adam Tarnow is a recovering CPA and now a partner at PeopleWorks International, where he heads the Leadership Development Practice. He is the co-author of The Edge: How to Stand Out by Showing You're All In and shares his insights on leadership through his Substack, Beyond the Obvious. Learn more at AdamTarnow.com | |||
17 Feb 2025 | The 60-Second Coaching Habit: Why Frequent Feedback Wins | 00:25:30 | |
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About Clay Scroggins: Clay Scroggins is a sought-after speaker and leadership coachknown for his practical and engaging approach to leadership. He is the author of three books, most notably How to Lead When You're Not In Charge. With a passion for helping leaders thrive in any environment, Clay brings valuable insights and real-world experience to this podcast and his weekly email. Learn more at ClayScroggins.com About Adam Tarnow: Adam Tarnow is a recovering CPA and now a partner at PeopleWorks International, where he heads the Leadership Development Practice. He is the co-author of The Edge: How to Stand Out by Showing You're All In and shares his insights on leadership through his Substack, Beyond the Obvious. Learn more at AdamTarnow.com | |||
26 Jun 2023 | Why Do We Complain? | 00:16:12 | |
Adam tells a story (I.e., he complains) about putting together some furniture and shares a few things he learned about complaining along the way. | |||
17 Jul 2023 | Who Do You Think You Are? | 00:21:04 | |
This episode is sponsored by BELAY (https://belaysolutions.com). Text LEAD to 55123 to receive BELAY's free eBook Delegate to Elevate. Question: What do you think about when you think about you? Your answer has a profound impact on your professional life. | |||
12 Aug 2024 | Culture is the New Leadership - Part 2 (featuring Ben Ortlip) | 00:29:57 | |
Entrepreneur and author Ben Ortlip is back! Adam and Ben continue their conversation based on Ben's new book, Culture is the New Leadership. This is the second part of a two-part conversation. Pick up a copy of this book on Amazon. Learn more about Ben and the CultureMRI. | |||
27 May 2024 | What Executive Recruiters are Looking For in an Interview (featuring Brad Pugh) | 00:31:55 | |
Brad Pugh leads the Atlanta office of Russell Reynolds Associates and is a senior member of the Corporate Officers Sector and HR Officers Practice. | |||
19 Feb 2024 | The Five Languages of Appreciation at Work (featuring Dr. Paul White) | 00:24:29 | |
How you express appreciation matters. In this episode, Dr. Paul White (co-author of The Five Languages of Appreciation in the Workplace) joins Adam to discuss how to ensure your team members feel appreciated. https://www.appreciationatwork.com/ (LINK) | |||
25 Sep 2023 | Is it possible to find fulfillment at work? | 00:23:04 | |
Clay's feeling a tad reflective in today's 100th episode of HOW TO LEAD. Is it possible to find fulfillment at work? Take a listen to find out. Do you get The Morning Brew? If not, sign up here (it's free!): https://www.morningbrew.com/daily/r?kid=31906eac | |||
27 Feb 2023 | Kobe Bryant's Thoughts on Failure | 00:22:32 | |
Adam and Clay dig up some old Koby Bryant audio and discuss his views on failure. The original video can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=js8OfeEL4jI&t=5s | |||
16 Sep 2024 | How to Get Promoted at Work | 00:21:36 | |
This episode is brought to you by the maker of the most comfortable clothing on the planet, Mizzen+Main. Use the code HOWTOLEAD at checkout to get 15% off your first order. _____________ Do you want a promotion at work? If so, this episode will remove all mystery from what it takes to take your career to the next level. _____________ About Clay Scroggins: Clay Scroggins is a sought-after speaker and leadership coach, known for his practical and engaging approach to leadership. He is the author of three books, most notably How to Lead When You're Not In Charge. With a passion for helping leaders thrive in any environment, Clay brings valuable insights and real-world experience to this podcast and his weekly email.
About Adam Tarnow: Adam Tarnow is a recovering CPA and now a partner at PeopleWorks International, where he heads up the Leadership Development Practice. He is the co-author of The Edge: How to Stand Out by Showing You're All In and shares his insights on leadership through his Substack, On Leadership. | |||
28 Nov 2022 | How to Improve Your Public Speaking Skills (Featuring Eva Daniel) | 00:19:22 | |
Today we are excited to introduce you to a new friend: Eva Daniel. Eva is a public speaking coach and the founder & owner of The Speak Shop. She will share why public speaking is still an essential skill for career-minded professionals and how you can begin to improve those skills even when you don't have any "gigs." Give her a follow on LinkedIn - her content on public speaking is world-class: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eva-rose-daniel/ | |||
27 Dec 2021 | How to Lead Like John Mulaney | 00:25:13 | |
Stand-up comics are fascinating. They stand on a stage, talk about nothing of substance for an hour, and everyone is disappointed when the act is over. They have to be the envy of every teacher, college professor, and pastor out there, right? Well, today, Adam and Clay dive into one of John Mulaney's bits from his 2015 comedy special, The Comeback Kid. Clay extracts a counterintuitive leadership insight. Three simple words that are easy to apply and will make you a leader worth following for years to come. _______________ Preorder Clay's new book here. | |||
24 Feb 2025 | The Two-Step Coaching Hack | 00:17:49 | |
Coaching doesn’t have to be complicated. In this episode, we break down LB/NT—a simple two-step framework that makes feedback clear, actionable, and actually helpful. Whether you’re leading a team, mentoring someone, or just want to help others improve, “Liked Best” and “Next Time” will change the way you coach. We’ll cover why most feedback fails, how to use this method in real conversations, and how to build a coaching culture where people thrive. Plus, we challenge you to try it this week! Tune in for practical insights you can apply immediately. About Clay Scroggins: Clay Scroggins is a sought-after speaker and leadership coachknown for his practical and engaging approach to leadership. He is the author of three books, most notably How to Lead When You're Not In Charge. With a passion for helping leaders thrive in any environment, Clay brings valuable insights and real-world experience to this podcast and his weekly email. Learn more at ClayScroggins.com About Adam Tarnow: Adam Tarnow is a recovering CPA and now a partner at PeopleWorks International, where he heads the Leadership Development Practice. He is the co-author of The Edge: How to Stand Out by Showing You're All In and shares his insights on leadership through his Substack, Beyond the Obvious. Learn more at AdamTarnow.com | |||
24 Jun 2024 | What Makes Employees Happy? | 00:21:13 | |
In this episode, Adam and Clay discuss some research on what makes an employee happy (spoiler alert: it's not money). -- This episode is brought to you be The Working Genius. To become a certified Working Genius Expert, visit workinggenius.me/howtolead | |||
31 Mar 2025 | How to Build a Successful Speaking Business | 00:29:23 | |
PushPay proudly sponsors this episode. Unleash generosity at your church: pushpay.com ______________________________________________________________ Clay and Adam break down the steps to building a speaking business—particularly if you’re doing it on the side. Clay shares how two decades of church speaking and writing books laid the foundation for his speaking career, and together they unpack the key lessons anyone can apply:
If you’ve ever thought, “Could I do this?”—this episode is for you. About Clay Scroggins: Clay Scroggins is a sought-after speaker and leadership coachknown for his practical and engaging approach to leadership. He is the author of three books, most notably How to Lead When You're Not In Charge. With a passion for helping leaders thrive in any environment, Clay brings valuable insights and real-world experience to this podcast and his weekly email. Learn more at ClayScroggins.com About Adam Tarnow: Adam Tarnow is a recovering CPA and now a partner at PeopleWorks International, where he heads the Leadership Development Practice. He is the co-author of The Edge: How to Stand Out by Showing You're All In and shares his insights on leadership through his Substack, Beyond the Obvious. Learn more at AdamTarnow.com | |||
10 Mar 2025 | The Three Best Coaching Questions Every Leader Should Ask | 00:22:40 | |
In this episode, Clay and Adam reveal the three best coaching questions every leader should ask to move beyond just giving advice and help their teams think more deeply. They explore how “And what else?”, “What advice would you give to someone in your situation?”, and “What’s the real challenge here for you?” can transform coaching conversations by uncovering real obstacles, tapping into people’s own wisdom, and driving clarity. Leaders are encouraged to try these questions in their next coaching conversation to build problem-solving skills and foster more meaningful dialogue. About Clay Scroggins: Clay Scroggins is a sought-after speaker and leadership coachknown for his practical and engaging approach to leadership. He is the author of three books, most notably How to Lead When You're Not In Charge. With a passion for helping leaders thrive in any environment, Clay brings valuable insights and real-world experience to this podcast and his weekly email. Learn more at ClayScroggins.com About Adam Tarnow: Adam Tarnow is a recovering CPA and now a partner at PeopleWorks International, where he heads the Leadership Development Practice. He is the co-author of The Edge: How to Stand Out by Showing You're All In and shares his insights on leadership through his Substack, Beyond the Obvious. Learn more at AdamTarnow.com | |||
01 Nov 2021 | How the Chick-fil-A Milkshake was Created with Shane Todd | 00:19:11 | |
Innovating without authority can be a dangerous endeavor. You risk being labeled as rebellious or reckless. The story of how Shane Todd, a Chick-fil-A operator, began selling a milkshake before it was even on the menu will inspire you…to go buy a milkshake, yes…and to persistently innovate as well.
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25 Mar 2024 | Pour One Out For Your Team | 00:18:21 | |
Clay and Adam harness their 1994 selves and discuss why we all need to pour one out for our teams. Welcome to How to Lead! | |||
13 Jun 2022 | A New Way to Think About Your Job | 00:14:13 | |
How do you think about your professional life? This might sound like an odd question, but it can significantly impact your day-to-day job. How you think about your career will determine how you respond to good and bad days at work. In this episode, Clay shares a word picture that helped him change how he thinks about his career, and we know it will help you too. | |||
23 Jan 2023 | Four Levels of Delegation | 00:12:57 | |
Four ways to use one of the greatest leadership development tools out there: DELEGATION Have an idea for a future episode? Send us an email: Info (at) HowToLead (dot) Work | |||
29 Apr 2024 | There is No Such Thing As a Self-Made Person | 00:13:26 | |
We all need mentors. And by all, we mean ALL. Why? VUCA That's why. Our world is filled with Volatility, Uncertainty, Complexity, and Ambiguity. | |||
01 Apr 2024 | How to Win with Old People (featuring Hampton Dortch) | 00:28:19 | |
Elizabeth Dortch raised a good one! Her son Hampton joins Clay and Adam to discuss how to win with old people. Clay and Adam are old. Hampton is young, but he is wise. After this episode, check out his podcast: Wake Up and Lead (Found on Apple & Spotify). | |||
28 Feb 2022 | What's Your Intent? (featuring Casey Graham) | 00:29:43 | |
Buckle up! This is the first of two episodes with the one and only Casey Graham. Casey loves to ask leaders, "Do the people on your team know what you really want?" Can you answer that question without spouting out some corporate mumbo-jumbo? Unfortunately, for far too many leaders, the answer is "no," and Casey believes that needs to change. How can you start to get your answer to that question? It begins by checking out this episode of How to Lead. ___________________________ Click here to check out Casey's new book. | |||
16 Jan 2023 | This Year, Chase a Number | 00:11:53 | |
This year, as you think about your goals - trying using numbers rather than words. Thank you to Pete Blank for this idea! | |||
05 Sep 2022 | Why You Need a Mentor Inside Your Organization | 00:15:14 | |
Here's a sobering truth for emerging leaders: most of the decisions about how your career will progress are made in rooms where you are NOT present.
Yes, that's right, people will be talking behind your back.
The results of these conversations will often impact:
Raises
Bonuses
Promotions
What can you do to make sure these conversations go well? Find a mentor (or two!) inside your organization.
Give Adam and Clay 15 minutes, and they'll give you a plan on how to go about developing these critical and helpful relationships.
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18 Apr 2022 | But What If I Don't Want to Return to the Office? | 00:20:35 | |
Ahh, RTO.
In 2019, these three letters stood for:
+Registered Training Authority
+Regional Transportation Organization
+Radiation Therapy Oncology
+Remote Take Over
Unfortunately, it's no longer 2019.
Today, these three letters stand for one thing: RETURN TO OFFICE.
RTO has become a business writer/blogger's favorite new subject.
Bored? Google RTO, sit back, and enjoy the tidal wave of opinions.
The bottom line is this: not everyone wants to RTO, and if that's you, we've got a plan to help.
In this episode, we offer a few simple ways for team leaders and team members to approach this conversation with clarity and honesty.
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15 May 2023 | How to Re-Brand Your Personal Brand | 00:19:51 | |
If "brands" can "re-brand," then so can you! Sometimes your personal brand needs to change. You need a refresh. A new image. A new reputation. If you (or someone you know) is feeling that way, then you'll love this episode. | |||
27 Jan 2025 | Culture Erodes One Cynical Comment at a Time | 00:25:28 | |
PushPay, the trusted leader in digital giving and engagement solutions for churches, sponsors this episode. With tools designed to simplify generosity, build connections, and grow communities, PushPay helps you focus on what truly matters—making an impact. Visit PushPay.com to learn more. ____________ Cynicism can creep into the workplace one comment at a time, eroding trust, morale, and collaboration. In this episode, we explore the difference between cynicism and pessimism, the devastating impact cynicism has on teams, and practical strategies for rebuilding trust and fostering a more optimistic culture. ____________ About Clay Scroggins: Clay Scroggins is a sought-after speaker and leadership coach, known for his practical and engaging approach to leadership. He is the author of three books, most notably How to Lead When You're Not In Charge. With a passion for helping leaders thrive in any environment, Clay brings valuable insights and real-world experience to this podcast and his weekly email. Learn more at ClayScroggins.com
About Adam Tarnow: Adam Tarnow is a recovering CPA and now a partner at PeopleWorks International, where he heads up the Leadership Development Practice. He is the co-author of The Edge: How to Stand Out by Showing You're All In and shares his insights on leadership through his Substack, Beyond the Obvious. Learn more at AdamTarnow.com | |||
22 Apr 2024 | A Skill to Future-Proof Your Career | 00:15:50 | |
This episode is brought to you by THE WORKING GENIUS. To learn more about becoming a Working Genus expert, visit workinggenius.me/howtolead | |||
07 Nov 2022 | Your Other Job Title | 00:13:19 | |
Not sure if anyone has told you this, but you have two job titles.
Many of you might not even know you have this second job title. Today, Clay & Adam want to fix that. If you are going to crush this second job, you first need to understand what it is. Welcome to How to Lead: Helping You Develop Yourself and Those Around You | |||
07 Oct 2021 | How To Leave A Job Well | 00:34:05 | |
The Great Resignation is upon us! Employees are voluntarily leaving their jobs faster than a cockroach hides when you turn on the bathroom light. In this first episode of the How to Lead *PREMIUM* podcast, Adam and Clay discuss a few practical ways to leave a job well. You might not be part of the resignation nation yet, but chances are sooner or later, you'll leave a job. When you do, this podcast will be just what you're looking for...or...at least it will be more helpful than the article Clay found when he Googled, "How do you resign from a job?" just hours before actually resigning from his job. LINKS AdamTarnow.com | |||
11 Mar 2024 | Increasing Your Capacity to Lead | 00:18:41 | |
Today, Clay and Adam start discussing some of Clay's favorite documentaries about fallen leaders and end discussing what a balloon can teach us about increasing our capacity to lead. Welcome to How to Lead! | |||
15 Jan 2024 | Supercharge Your Productivity with an Executive Assistant | 00:22:22 | |
Today, Clay mixes it up with Krisha Buehler and Abby Rhodes. Krisha is the Chief Experience Officer at Belay Solutions, and Abby is her Executive Assistant. They share practical ways to supercharge your productivity with an executive assistant. __________ This episode is brought to you by our friends at Belay (https://belaysolutions.com/). To get started juggling less and accomplishing more, BELAY offers our listeners a free download of their resource, The Power of Productivity. This download is packed with practical tools and hands-on assessments to help you determine what’s getting in the way of your productivity. Text LEAD to 55123 for your free copy. | |||
11 Dec 2023 | Handle Hard Better | 00:17:13 | |
Today, Clay and Adam discuss a sound bite from Kara Lawson. Kara is the head coach of Duke University's women's basketball team. The full clip can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDzfZOfNki4 | |||
03 Oct 2022 | How to Say "No" To Your Boss (Without Sounding Entitled) | 00:18:48 | |
Sometimes a young leader needs establish boundaries with their boss. There are moments when you need to tell your boss "no, I can't do that." The challenge, however, is doing this without coming across sounding selfish, bratty, or entitled. Boundaries are healthy. Entitlement is not. Today, Clay and Adam give listners a few simple ways to establish boundaries with your boss, without coming across sounding lazy or entitled. | |||
21 Aug 2023 | Grow Your Self-Awareness | 00:21:27 | |
Successful people are self-aware. Although self-awareness can be painful at times, it's the start of emotional intelligence. Today, Clay and Adam hare a few simple ways we can all grow in our self-awareness. | |||
09 Dec 2024 | The Most Underused Leadership Quote of All Time | 00:15:35 | |
The Most Underused Leadership Quote of All Time How's that for raising the bar? About Clay Scroggins: Clay Scroggins is a sought-after speaker and leadership coach, known for his practical and engaging approach to leadership. He is the author of three books, most notably How to Lead When You're Not In Charge. With a passion for helping leaders thrive in any environment, Clay brings valuable insights and real-world experience to this podcast and his weekly email.
About Adam Tarnow: Adam Tarnow is a recovering CPA and now a partner at PeopleWorks International, where he heads up the Leadership Development Practice. He is the co-author of The Edge: How to Stand Out by Showing You're All In and shares his insights on leadership through his Substack, On Leadership. | |||
02 Dec 2024 | Performance by Design | 00:19:14 | |
Performance by Design The key to better performance at work might be changing what you do when you are not at work. About Clay Scroggins: Clay Scroggins is a sought-after speaker and leadership coach, known for his practical and engaging approach to leadership. He is the author of three books, most notably How to Lead When You're Not In Charge. With a passion for helping leaders thrive in any environment, Clay brings valuable insights and real-world experience to this podcast and his weekly email.
About Adam Tarnow: Adam Tarnow is a recovering CPA and now a partner at PeopleWorks International, where he heads up the Leadership Development Practice. He is the co-author of The Edge: How to Stand Out by Showing You're All In and shares his insights on leadership through his Substack, On Leadership. | |||
17 Apr 2023 | Conflict at Work: Starting Well (Part 2 of 3) | 00:18:09 | |
Today...how to start a difficult conversation. | |||
03 Feb 2025 | The Brand Inside: A Secret Growth Strategy | 00:20:02 | |
In this episode, we dive into "The Brand Inside" and explore why the key to organizational growth isn't just about your market presence—it's about your employment brand. Drawing on Gallup research and real-world experience, we discuss how effective people development is essential to attracting and retaining top talent. You'll learn three simple, actionable strategies to develop your team without overwhelming your schedule: thinking out loud to share your insights, giving rising stars a behind-the-scenes view of your work, and going deep with one or two individuals to make a lasting impact. About Clay Scroggins: Clay Scroggins is a sought-after speaker and leadership coach, known for his practical and engaging approach to leadership. He is the author of three books, most notably How to Lead When You're Not In Charge. With a passion for helping leaders thrive in any environment, Clay brings valuable insights and real-world experience to this podcast and his weekly email. Learn more at ClayScroggins.com
About Adam Tarnow: Adam Tarnow is a recovering CPA and now a partner at PeopleWorks International, where he heads up the Leadership Development Practice. He is the co-author of The Edge: How to Stand Out by Showing You're All In and shares his insights on leadership through his Substack, Beyond the Obvious. Learn more at AdamTarnow.com | |||
18 Jul 2022 | A Leader's Most Important Tool | 00:14:45 | |
The tool a leader uses most often is communication. This is bad news and good news. Bad, because this tool can become dull and in need of sharpening. Good, because sharpening this tool is not difficult. In this episode, you'll learn one quick and easy way to sharpen your communication skills. You'll also learn one of Clay's least favorite words and the oddest gift Adam ever received from his mother-in-law. Welcome to How to Lead! | |||
17 Mar 2025 | Play the Hand You're Dealt: How to Build a Great Relationship with Your Boss | 00:20:06 | |
In this episode, Clay and Adam unpack how to thrive at work by understanding and adapting to your boss’s world, even if they’re less than perfect. They explore five key strategies: empathizing with your boss’s challenges, learning their communication style, being a low-maintenance problem solver, managing your expectations, and influencing without being manipulative. The episode challenges listeners to stop waiting for the “perfect boss” and instead focus on playing the hand they’re dealt—with a few practical tips to start using right away. About Clay Scroggins: Clay Scroggins is a sought-after speaker and leadership coachknown for his practical and engaging approach to leadership. He is the author of three books, most notably How to Lead When You're Not In Charge. With a passion for helping leaders thrive in any environment, Clay brings valuable insights and real-world experience to this podcast and his weekly email. Learn more at ClayScroggins.com About Adam Tarnow: Adam Tarnow is a recovering CPA and now a partner at PeopleWorks International, where he heads the Leadership Development Practice. He is the co-author of The Edge: How to Stand Out by Showing You're All In and shares his insights on leadership through his Substack, Beyond the Obvious. Learn more at AdamTarnow.com | |||
30 Oct 2023 | The Only Leaders Worth Following (Featuring Tim Spiker) | 00:32:29 | |
Over 75% of your leadership effectiveness is determined by two characteristics. Yes, TWO! Today, Tim Spiker joins Adam on the podcast to discuss these two characteristics and how you can become a leader worth following. Learn more about Tim here: https://www.theaperio.com/tim-spiker | |||
26 Aug 2024 | Coaching Millennials and Gen Z (Part 1) | 00:29:32 | |
THIS EPISODE IS PROUDLY SPONSORED BY THE UNSTUCK GROUP __________ Clay and Adam recently partnered with their friends at RightNow Media @ Work to host a webinar on coaching Millennials and Gen Z. This episode is the first part of that webinar. __________ People problems are uniquely challenging on a ministry team. Leading your staff through them is hard. When you know something is off related to the team, it’s normal to lack confidence for solving that kind of challenge. They didn’t teach you how to do that in seminary. You’ve probably been on the receiving end of a bad restructure at some point yourself. And, the people you serve alongside in ministry feel like family. The stakes are high. You don’t have to tackle it alone. We understand the nuances of what makes leading a church staff team uniquely challenging. We’ve helped 100s of churches build a staffing strategy and structure that works. Through our Staffing & Structure process, we help teams solve complicated staffing challenges with wisdom and grace. Learn how it works at theunstuckgroup.com/restructure.
About Clay Scroggins: Clay Scroggins is a sought-after speaker and leadership coach, known for his practical and engaging approach to leadership. He is the author of three books, most notably How to Lead When You're Not In Charge. With a passion for helping leaders thrive in any environment, Clay brings valuable insights and real-world experience to this podcast and his weekly email.
About Adam Tarnow: Adam Tarnow is a recovering CPA and now a partner at PeopleWorks International, where he heads up the Leadership Development Practice. He is the co-author of The Edge: How to Stand Out by Showing You're All In and shares his insights on leadership through his Substack, On Leadership. | |||
01 Jan 2024 | A few lessons learned in 2023 | 00:15:33 | |
The calendar has turned. Adam and Clay reflect on a few lessons learned in 2023.
Send us your stories! Info(at)HowToLead(dot)Work
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27 Mar 2023 | How to Increase Your Capacity | 00:11:39 | |
Leadership is odd. Yes, teams often benefit from a point person, but successful teams are also filled with many leaders. Today, Adam and Clay discuss how to increase the capacity of your team by rethinking what it means to be a leader. | |||
22 Jul 2024 | When Full Engagement Isn't Enough | 00:17:41 | |
Sometimes, full engagement isn't enough. Today, Clay and Adam talk about one "fully engaged" employee who is not helpful to your organization. Sign up for the July 31st RightNow Webinar here: rnow.me/howtoleadwebinar _________ Based on The Unstuck Group’s most recent data, 53% of churches have gone through a restructure involving multiple staff positions within the last two years. And it can go so wrong; unwise restructuring can lead to churches…
In their “How to Restructure Wisely” webinar last month, Tony Morgan and Amy Anderson simplified what it takes to restructure with wisdom and grace—and they are sharing the event replay with us. Nobody gives their life to ministry for the money: It’s more than a job, and your team is more than a staff. You can lead through it with confidence, and your church can come out stronger on the other side. Learn how: theunstuckgroup.com/howtolead | |||
18 Nov 2024 | How We Think About Writing | 00:21:54 | |
How We Think About Writing Clay and Adam discuss their approach to writing. Resources mentioned: How to Write a Winning Book Proposal Rob Bell's "Something to Write" Stephen King's "On Writing" About Clay Scroggins: Clay Scroggins is a sought-after speaker and leadership coach, known for his practical and engaging approach to leadership. He is the author of three books, most notably How to Lead When You're Not In Charge. With a passion for helping leaders thrive in any environment, Clay brings valuable insights and real-world experience to this podcast and his weekly email.
About Adam Tarnow: Adam Tarnow is a recovering CPA and now a partner at PeopleWorks International, where he heads up the Leadership Development Practice. He is the co-author of The Edge: How to Stand Out by Showing You're All In and shares his insights on leadership through his Substack, On Leadership. | |||
09 Oct 2023 | The Mind Reader's Guide: The Power of Understanding Someone Else's Perspective | 00:25:06 | |
SPONSORED BY: RightNow Media @ Work RightNow Media @ Work is a voluntary faith-based library of more than 25,000 videos on leadership, personal development, marriage, parenting, and more. Visit rightnowmedia.org/howtolead to learn how RightNow Media @ Work can help you develop leaders and care for your employees. EPISODE DESCRIPTION: Bosses and employees often see the world differently; unfortunately, these differences are not always helpful. In this episode, Clay and Adam discuss how different perspectives on PROJECTS, PAY, and PROSPERITY can often lead to unnecessary tension on the team. When bosses and employees understand these differences, it unlocks their empathy and keeps the team moving forward. | |||
18 Sep 2023 | Leadership Habits That Increase Your Influence (Featuring Marcus "Goodie" Goodloe) | 00:38:14 | |
This episode is brought to you by RightNow Media @ Work RightNow Media @ Work is a voluntary faith-based library of more than 25,000 videos on topics such as leadership, personal development, marriage, parenting, and more. Visit rightnowmedia.org/howtolead to find out how RightNow Media @ Work can help you develop leaders and care for your employees. ___________ Learn more about Marcus "Goodie" Goodloe here (http://goodiegoodloe.com/) | |||
20 Mar 2023 | How to Stand Out When You Feel Overlooked | 00:17:30 | |
Do you feel like you are being overlooked at work? When this happens, it's challenging, and Clay and Adam have three ideas to help. | |||
25 Jul 2022 | Looking Back to Find Motivation | 00:13:07 | |
Sometimes, you don't find motivation from looking ahead to the future. Sometimes, you find it by looking back to the past. Clay recently spent time with some leaders and challenged them with one simple question. A question that, when reflected upon, will help reorient your priorities and give you the energy you need to keep moving forward. This is How to Lead! | |||
30 Sep 2024 | The Secret to Effective Vision Casting | 00:12:14 | |
The Secret to Effective Vision Casting Clay and Adam simplify what it means to "cast vision." This is not a task reserved only for the tall, gregarious, and charismatic. Any leader can cast vision, regardless of their style. About Clay Scroggins: Clay Scroggins is a sought-after speaker and leadership coach, known for his practical and engaging approach to leadership. He is the author of three books, most notably How to Lead When You're Not In Charge. With a passion for helping leaders thrive in any environment, Clay brings valuable insights and real-world experience to this podcast and his weekly email.
About Adam Tarnow: Adam Tarnow is a recovering CPA and now a partner at PeopleWorks International, where he heads up the Leadership Development Practice. He is the co-author of The Edge: How to Stand Out by Showing You're All In and shares his insights on leadership through his Substack, On Leadership. | |||
30 Jan 2023 | The Skills Needed For Your Next Promotion | 00:18:04 | |
The skills that got you the last promotion are not the same skills that will get you the next promotion. Today, Adam and Clay let you know which skills you need to develop, so you'll be ready for the next promotion. __________________ Have an idea for a future episode? Shoot us an email: Info (at) HowToLead (dot) Work | |||
08 Aug 2022 | How to Run a Meeting (Part 2 of 3) | 00:19:33 | |
You've started your meeting off on the right foot. ✅ You've Provided Inspiration ✅ You've Checked-In Relationally ✅ You've Defined the Problem You're Solving Now what? In less than twenty minutes, Adam and Clay provide a few simple ways to ensure you run your meeting with excellence. | |||
13 Nov 2023 | Love People to Lead People (Featuring Jenni Catron) | 00:28:40 | |
The amazing Jenni Catron (https://jennicatron.com/) joins Clay on the podcast today to discuss how loving people is a prerequisite to leading people. Jenni has created a video course called The Four Dimensions of Self-Leadership, which can be found on the RightNow Media @ Work platform. RightNow Media @ Work is the proud sponsor of this episode. RightNow Media @ Work is a voluntary, faith-based library of more than 25,000 videos on topics such as leadership, personal development, marriage, parenting, and more. Visit rightnowmedia.org/howtolead to find out how RightNow Media @ Work can help you develop leaders and care for your employees. | |||
15 Aug 2022 | How to End a Meeting (Part 3 of 3) | 00:15:12 | |
You've started the meeting well and run the meeting even better. Now, the most important part: the ending 🏁. If you don't stick the landing, all that time and energy could be wasted. You don't want that and your team doesn't want today. Today in fifteen minutes, Adam & Clay will give you 2️⃣ productive ways to end your meetings. | |||
06 Jan 2025 | How to Learn From Your Year and Crush the Next | 00:16:06 | |
How to Learn From Your Year and Crush the Next The calendar has turned which means it's time to reflect on 2024 so you'll have an amazing 2025. About Clay Scroggins: Clay Scroggins is a sought-after speaker and leadership coach, known for his practical and engaging approach to leadership. He is the author of three books, most notably How to Lead When You're Not In Charge. With a passion for helping leaders thrive in any environment, Clay brings valuable insights and real-world experience to this podcast and his weekly email.
About Adam Tarnow: Adam Tarnow is a recovering CPA and now a partner at PeopleWorks International, where he heads up the Leadership Development Practice. He is the co-author of The Edge: How to Stand Out by Showing You're All In and shares his insights on leadership through his Substack, On Leadership. | |||
06 Nov 2023 | Nobody wants to work anymore! | 00:24:25 | |
"Nobody wants to work anymore!" Chances are you've heard someone say that lately. Given the current status of the labor market, this sentiment makes sense. Is it true? Is it true nobody wants to work anymore? David Morrison joins Adam and Clay to discuss how the current labor market impacts the restaurant industry, and he pokes a few holes in the idea that "nobody wants to work anymore." ________ This episode is sponsored by BELAY Solutions.
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