Expansion (Blockworks)

In the first roundup episode of roundup Rex and Jon dive into the recent stress test of Celestia by Eclipse launch and its implications for data availability layers. They also examine Solana's DEX volume surpassing Ethereum and debate the significance of various blockchain metrics. The conversation shifts to the potential of ZKVMs to revolutionize blockchain architecture, followed by an analysis of Movement's testnet launch and its community-building approach. Close out by discussing the California DMV's blockchain integration and its potential impact on real-world adoption. Thanks for tuning in! - - Follow Rex: https://x.com/LogarithmicRex Follow nosleepjon: https://x.com/nosleepjon Follow Expansion: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@expansionpod Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/4bGKYYM Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3Vaubq1 Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ -- Join us at Permissionless III Oct 9-11. Use code: EXPANSION10 for a 10% discount: https://blockworks.co/event/permissionless-iii -- Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (01:36) Eclipse DA Stress Testing Celestia (07:48) Rise of Alt VMs (11:04) Permissionless III Ad (12:36) End Game of zkVMs (14:59) Movement VM Testnet (18:52) Developer Incentives (20:08) Solana DEX Volume Flips Ethereum (27:17) Avalanche & California DMV Integration (34:18) Nomada Token Launch Controversy - - Disclaimer Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation. Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Rex, Jon, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

In this episode, we dive into the recent Solana bug fix that raises questions about true centralization in crypto. We also explore the evolving airdrop meta, discussing lessons from Celestia's TIA token and the difficulty of launching tokens in today's landscape. The conversation then shifts to the value of business development in crypto, the ongoing competition in the VM space, and the importance of attribution in open-source projects. Finally, we touch on the changing market dynamics with the introduction of crypto ETFs. Enjoy! - - Follow Rex: https://x.com/LogarithmicRex Follow nosleepjon: https://x.com/nosleepjon Follow Expansion: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@expansionpod Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/4bGKYYM Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3Vaubq1 Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ -- Join us at Permissionless III Oct 9-11. Use code: EXPANSION10 for a 10% discount: https://blockworks.co/event/permissionless-iii -- Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (01:23) Jump's Meltdown? (08:34) Solana's Critical Bug (12:25) Permissionless III Ad (13:56) Centralization Risks of Clients (21:00) Hyperlane Token Launch (23:45) Staker Airdrop Meta (32:56) Value of BD in Crypto - - Disclaimer Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation. Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Rex, Jon, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

In this episode of Expansion, Mike is joined by Nick White of Celestia to explore the fundamental challenges of blockchain scaling. They dive deep into Celestia's approach to abundant blockspace, recent protocol upgrades including Shwab and Ginger, and the engineering tradeoffs between modular and monolithic blockchain designs. The conversation covers everything from fee market dynamics across different chains to the recent launch of Astria's decentralized sequencing layer. Thanks for tuning in! - - Follow Nick: https://x.com/nickwh8te Follow Mike: https://x.com/MikeIppolito_ Follow Expansion: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@expansionpod Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/4bGKYYM Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3Vaubq1 Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ -- Join us at Permissionless III Oct 9-11. Use code: EXPANSION10 for a 10% discount: https://blockworks.co/event/permissionless-iii -- Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (06:03) The Lazy Blockchain (12:19) Celestia Roadmap (19:57) Incoming Celestia Upgrades (31:28) Optimizing for Blockspace Demand (49:59) Astria Launch - - Disclaimer Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation. Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Rex, Jon, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

In this week's roundup, we dive into the future of the EVM, exploring its shortcomings, network effects, and the rise of customized execution environments. We also discuss the value of decentralization, the durability of L1 premiums, the evolving app vs. infra dynamic, and how institutions might reshape blockchain adoption. Enjoy! Resources Fortress of Solitude - DegenSpartan: https://www.egirlcapital.com/writings/dE4AzaSbREOMppMqRmFpuA Solana Policy Institute: https://x.com/SolanaInstitute/status/1906677246225707379 – L2s and L3s are history. Supra Containers give you dedicated, customizable AppSpace on Supra’s Layer-1 to rescue you from the costs, complexities, and fragmentation of L2s and L3s.  Containers help you build with better customization and control than appchains at a fraction of the cost. Use your own token as the gas token, create local fee markets with custom gas amounts or just go gasless, and scale on demand whenever you need to. Supra Containers are secured by Supra’s L1 nodes and get access to Supra’s 500k TPS throughput, sub-second consensus latency, and all their built-in services like oracle price feeds and onchain randomness without any overhead. Supra is also MultiVM compatible so you can easily deploy your EVM, Move, and SVM smart contracts here. Get all the freedom, control, and tools you need to build super dApps and bring the world onchain. To learn more, visit www.supra.com/blockworks – Ledger, the global leader in digital asset security, proudly sponsors Bell Curve! As Ledger celebrates 10 years of securing 20% of global crypto, it remains the top choice for securing your assets. Buy a LEDGER™ device now, and build confidently, knowing your BTC, ETH, SOL, and more are safe. Buy now on https://shop.ledger.com/?r=1da180a5de00. – Missed DAS? Join us from June 24th-June 26th at Permissionless IV! Use Code EXPANSION10 at checkout for 10% off! Tickets: https://blockworks.co/event/permissionless-iv - - Follow Jill: https://x.com/jillrgunter Follow Nick: https://x.com/nickwh8te Follow Uma: https://x.com/pumatheuma Follow Mike: https://x.com/MikeIppolito_ Follow Expansion: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://bit.ly/3QLwfTs Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/4bGKYYM Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3Vaubq1 Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ -- Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (01:19) The Future of the EVM (11:22) Supra Pre-Roll (11:47) Ledger Pre-Roll (12:05) Building a Differentiated L1 Today (20:43) Revisiting the Fat Protocol Thesis (25:39) Supra Mid-Roll (26:23) Ledger Mid-Roll (26:58) Does the Market Still Care About Decentralization? (39:39) Is There Still an L1 Premium? (49:48) Winners Games & Losers Games (58:18) The Solana Policy Institute - - Disclaimer Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation. Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Michael, Nick, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

In this week's roundup we dissect the EigenLayer airdrop scandal and its implications for industry practices. The conversation then shifts to the intricacies of shared sequencing and base sequencing, exploring their potential impact on endgame architecture. We also examine the recent wBTC custody drama and its ripple effects across DeFi. Finally, we discuss the evolution of airdrop strategies and their sustainability in the current crypto landscape. Thanks for tuning in! - - Follow Rex: https://x.com/LogarithmicRex Follow nosleepjon: https://x.com/nosleepjon Follow Expansion: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@expansionpod Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/4bGKYYM Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3Vaubq1 Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ -- Join us at Permissionless III Oct 9-11. Use code: EXPANSION10 for a 10% discount: https://blockworks.co/event/permissionless-iii -- Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (01:03) EigenLayer Airdrop Scandal (08:35) Is Shared Sequencing Dead? (17:40) Permissionless III Ad (19:12) Pivoting to Interop (29:35) Trade Offs of Base Sequencing (32:59) wBTC Custody Drama (50:27) NFTFi & Airdrops - - Disclaimer Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation. Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Rex, Jon, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

In this week's roundup, the crew discusses Base’s Flashbocks, and the pushback they received regarding centralization concerns. They also dive into their concerns with the rapid politicization of crypto. Finally, they cover the economic models of blockchains, particularly general-purpose L1s versus L2s. Enjoy! – L2s and L3s are history. Supra Containers give you dedicated, customizable AppSpace on Supra’s Layer-1 to rescue you from the costs, complexities, and fragmentation of L2s and L3s.  Containers help you build with better customization and control than appchains at a fraction of the cost. Use your own token as the gas token, create local fee markets with custom gas amounts or just go gasless, and scale on demand whenever you need to. Supra Containers are secured by Supra’s L1 nodes and get access to Supra’s 500k TPS throughput, sub-second consensus latency, and all their built-in services like oracle price feeds and onchain randomness without any overhead. Supra is also MultiVM compatible so you can easily deploy your EVM, Move, and SVM smart contracts here. Get all the freedom, control, and tools you need to build super dApps and bring the world onchain. To learn more, visit www.supra.com/blockworks – Ledger, the global leader in digital asset security, proudly sponsors Bell Curve! As Ledger celebrates 10 years of securing 20% of global crypto, it remains the top choice for securing your assets. Buy a LEDGER™ device now, and build confidently, knowing your BTC, ETH, SOL, and more are safe. Buy now on https://shop.ledger.com/?r=1da180a5de00. – Join us at DAS NYC 2025!  Use code EXPANSION10 for a 10% discount: https://blockworks.co/event/digital-asset-summit-2025-new-york - - Follow Jill: https://x.com/jillrgunter Follow Nick: https://x.com/nickwh8te Follow Uma: https://x.com/pumatheuma Follow Mike: https://x.com/MikeIppolito_ Follow Expansion: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://bit.ly/3QLwfTs Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/4bGKYYM Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3Vaubq1 Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ -- Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (03:52) Discussing Base's Flashblocks (18:29) Supra Pre-Roll (18:55) Ledger Pre-Roll (19:12) The Politicalization of Crypto (31:22) Leadership Changes For the Ethereum Foundation (43:51) Supra Mid-Roll (44:35) Ledger Mid-Roll (45:11) Is DA the Most Sustainable Driver of Flows? (55:18) Valuing Blockchain Revenue Streams - - Disclaimer Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation. Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Michael, Nick, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

Expansion is a podcast exploring the intersection of modular blockchain design and abundant blockspace. Be sure to follow so you don't miss our first episode on Wednesday! -- Follow Rex: https://x.com/LogarithmicRex Follow NoSleepJon: https://x.com/nosleepjon Follow Expansion: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Follow Expansion on YouTube: https://blckwrks.co/3VrLc0g

In this episode, we dive deep into the latest in scalability with Avi Zurlo from the Nil Foundation. We unpack sharding, its application in blockchain, and how it differs from traditional rollup solutions. Avi breaks down the complexities of ZK sharding, discusses the challenges of interoperability in a sharded system, and compares different approaches to scaling blockchains. The conversation also touches on the future of global shared state machines and the potential impact of sharding on developer experiences and application design. - - Follow Avi: https://x.com/avizurlo Follow Rex: https://x.com/LogarithmicRex Follow nosleepjon: https://x.com/nosleepjon Follow Expansion: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@expansionpod Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/4bGKYYM Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3Vaubq1 Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ -- Join us at Permissionless III Oct 9-11. Use code: EXPANSION10 for a 10% discount: https://blockworks.co/event/permissionless-iii -- Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (01:24) What is Sharding? (11:59) Evolution of Rollup Roadmap (24:58) Permissionless III Ad (26:30) VMs & Scalability (31:58) Is a Globally Shared State Machine Real? (41:53) Fee Market Design of Sharded Systems (44:34) DA vs Sharding - - Disclaimer Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation. Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Rex, Jon, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

In this episode, we dive into the evolving app chain ecosystem with Josie from MilkyWay and Zo from Blackwing. They discuss their decision to build on emerging platforms like Initia, exploring the technical advantages of full stack control and customization. We examine Blackwing's innovative trading system and MilkyWay's restaking protocol, before delving into the challenges and benefits of growing within a new blockchain ecosystem. Thanks for tuning in! - - Follow Josie: https://x.com/josietyleung Follow Zo:https://x.com/0xzozozo Follow Rex: https://x.com/LogarithmicRex Follow nosleepjon: https://x.com/nosleepjon Follow Expansion: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@expansionpod Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/4bGKYYM Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3Vaubq1 Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ -- Join us at Permissionless III Oct 9-11. Use code: EXPANSION10 for a 10% discount: https://blockworks.co/event/permissionless-iii -- Timestamps: (01:29) Blackwing & Milky Way Origin Story (10:08) Modular Blockchains vs Applications (17:13) Permissionless III Ad (18:44) User Assurances & Modular Unlocks (29:12) Zero Sum Dynamics (38:29) Ideal Usecases (45:05) Growth Advantage for Chains - - Disclaimer Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation. Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Rex, Jon, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.(00:00) Introduction

In this week's Roundup, the crew dives into the growing intersection of AI and crypto, and the debate over AI agents transacting onchain. They explore the viability of zkAI, VC interest in crypto amid an AI-driven funding landscape, and the growing divergence between the OP Stack and Arbitrum. Finally, they tackle on-chain governance struggles, the fixation on block times, and why, despite bearish sentiment, the long-term future of crypto has never looked brighter. Enjoy! Resources OP Stack & Arbitrum Stack diverging: https://x.com/pumatheuma/status/1897746210351726883 Funding Rounds in Crypto: https://defillama.com/raises Mert’s SIMD-228 Post: https://x.com/0xMert_/status/1900172113287565754 – L2s and L3s are history. Supra Containers give you dedicated, customizable AppSpace on Supra’s Layer-1 to rescue you from the costs, complexities, and fragmentation of L2s and L3s.  Containers help you build with better customization and control than appchains at a fraction of the cost. Use your own token as the gas token, create local fee markets with custom gas amounts or just go gasless, and scale on demand whenever you need to. Supra Containers are secured by Supra’s L1 nodes and get access to Supra’s 500k TPS throughput, sub-second consensus latency, and all their built-in services like oracle price feeds and onchain randomness without any overhead. Supra is also MultiVM compatible so you can easily deploy your EVM, Move, and SVM smart contracts here. Get all the freedom, control, and tools you need to build super dApps and bring the world onchain. To learn more, visit www.supra.com/blockworks - - Follow Jill: https://x.com/jillrgunter Follow Nick: https://x.com/nickwh8te Follow Uma: https://x.com/pumatheuma Follow Mike: https://x.com/MikeIppolito_ Follow Expansion: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://bit.ly/3QLwfTs Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/4bGKYYM Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3Vaubq1 Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ -- Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (02:57) Why Would AI Agents Transact Onchain? (07:17) Is zkAI Viable? (10:45) Supra Pre-Roll (11:10) Does Grok Suck? (12:59) VC Interest in Crypto (15:30) OP Stack and Arbitrum Orbit Stack Diverging (27:02) Are Regulatory Pressures Impacting L2 Models? (34:16) Supra Mid-Roll (35:00) The Fixation on Block Times (40:11) Onchain Governance Struggles (55:57) Optimism For Crypto's Future - - Disclaimer Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation. Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Michael, Nick, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

In this episode, we dive into the shift towards ZK technology, marking the end of the optimistic rollup era. We explore Visa's entry into the stablecoin market and discuss the implications of Celestia's Lemongrass update. The conversation touches on the Eigen Layer token unlock controversy, debates around light node functionality, and the potential unveiling of Satoshi Nakamoto. We also address Edward Snowden's criticism of Solana and the importance of open source ethics in the crypto space. Thanks for tuning in! - - Follow Rex: https://x.com/LogarithmicRex Follow nosleepjon: https://x.com/nosleepjon Follow Expansion: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@expansionpod Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/4bGKYYM Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3Vaubq1 Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ -- Join us at Permissionless III Oct 9-11. Use code: EXPANSION10 for a 10% discount: https://blockworks.co/event/permissionless-iii -- Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (01:15) Why Are You Building Apps Here (09:04) EigenLayer Token Unlock (18:32) Permissionless III Ad (20:04) Conduit Upgrade (29:46) Visa Tokenized Asset Platform (33:34) Union & Trusted Setup Ceremonym (37:33) Celestia Light Nodes (44:38) Protecting Open Source (46:12) Satoshi Unveiled - - Disclaimer Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation. Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Rex, Jon, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

In this episode, we dive deep into the world of ZK accounts and their potential. Uma, Zaki, and John, unpack ZK accounts, the trade-offs involved in design decisions, and the political landscape. We explore how ZK accounts enable trustless interoperability, enhance scalability, and unlock a dimension for dApps. The conversation also touches upon the convergence of blockchain design and the shift from infrastructure development to application-focused innovation, as ZK technology becomes more accessible and user-friendly. - - Follow John: https://x.com/jadler0 Follow Zaki: https://x.com/zmanian Follow Uma: https://x.com/pumatheuma Follow Rex: https://x.com/LogarithmicRex Follow nosleepjon: https://x.com/nosleepjon Follow Expansion: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@expansionpod Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/4bGKYYM Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3Vaubq1 Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ - - Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (02:11) ZK Accounts Overview (10:26) Why ZK? (18:05) Permissionless III Ad (19:25) Trade-offs of Design Decisions (31:36) What ZK Accounts Unlock (42:22) Endgame Convergence (50:37) ZK Application Unlock - - Disclaimer Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation. Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Rex, Jon, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

Live from ETHDenver, this episode dives into the current state of crypto, from the subdued conference vibes to the broader industry sentiment. The crew discusses whether the last cycle truly expanded the ecosystem or if it was just another speculative wave. They explore the rise and fall of meme coins, the shift from idealism to pragmatism in crypto startups, and the growing role of institutions like Bank of America in stablecoins. Finally, they cover the ByBit hack, and the importance of long-term sustainability in crypto. Enjoy! – L2s and L3s are history. Supra Containers give you dedicated, customizable AppSpace on Supra’s Layer-1 to rescue you from the costs, complexities, and fragmentation of L2s and L3s.  Containers help you build with better customization and control than appchains at a fraction of the cost. Use your own token as the gas token, create local fee markets with custom gas amounts or just go gasless, and scale on demand whenever you need to. Supra Containers are secured by Supra’s L1 nodes and get access to Supra’s 500k TPS throughput, sub-second consensus latency, and all their built-in services like oracle price feeds and onchain randomness without any overhead. Supra is also MultiVM compatible so you can easily deploy your EVM, Move, and SVM smart contracts here. Get all the freedom, control, and tools you need to build super dApps and bring the world onchain. To learn more, visit www.supra.com/blockworks – Join us at DAS NYC 2025!  Use code EXPANSION10 for a 10% discount: https://blockworks.co/event/digital-asset-summit-2025-new-york - - Follow Jill: https://x.com/jillrgunter Follow Nick: https://x.com/nickwh8te Follow Uma: https://x.com/pumatheuma Follow Mike: https://x.com/MikeIppolito_ Follow Expansion: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ExpansionPod Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/4bGKYYM Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3Vaubq1 Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ -- Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (01:21) ETHDenver Vibe Check (03:29) Did We Onboard New People? (12:00) Supra Ad (12:26) Pragmatism vs Idealism (15:56) ByBit Gets Hacked (26:24) Supra Ad (27:08) Celestia's Fees & Valuing Startups (33:35) Revenue Generation in Crypto (40:26) Value Added Services For Celestia - - Disclaimer Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation. Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Michael, Nick, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

In today's roundup we explore Celestia's 1GB block roadmap and Arbitrum's Stylus launch. We also unpack the controversy surrounding NEAR Protocol's publicity stunt and debate the ethics of "vape-to-earn" projects. Finally, we examine how Japanese banks are testing stablecoin transfers and what this means for institutional adoption. Enjoy! - - Follow Rex: https://x.com/LogarithmicRex Follow nosleepjon: https://x.com/nosleepjon Follow Expansion: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@expansionpod Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/4bGKYYM Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3Vaubq1 Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ -- Join us at Permissionless III Oct 9-11. Use code: EXPANSION10 for a 10% discount: https://blockworks.co/event/permissionless-iii -- Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (01:09) Celestia Roadmap 1GB Blocks (07:04) Arbitrum Stylus Launch (14:29) Permissionless III Ad (16:01) Are We Building the Same Thing? (23:22) Is Crypto Twitter Dead? (29:35) Trump Aave Fork (36:08) Near Blockchain Hack (45:18) Vape to Earn (50:57) Japan Banks Cross Border Stablecoin Transfer - - Disclaimer Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation. Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Rex, Jon, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

In this episode, Kyle Samani of Multicoin Capital discusses his integrated blockchain thesis, challenging popular narratives around modular blockchain design. He delves into the nature of blockchains as financial systems, the importance of MEV in value capture, and the potential for near-zero transaction costs. Samani also explores the trade-offs between integrated and modular approaches, the future of AppChains, and the questionable role of blockchain beyond finance. Enjoy! - - Although our guest this week is a Managing Partner of a registered investment adviser, nothing in this podcast should be considered an offer of Multicoin’s investment advisory services or should otherwise be confused for investment, tax, legal or other financial advice. - - Follow Kyle: https://x.com/KyleSamani Follow Rex: https://x.com/LogarithmicRex Follow nosleepjon: https://x.com/nosleepjon Follow Expansion: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@expansionpod Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/4bGKYYM Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3Vaubq1 Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ -- Join us at Permissionless III Oct 9-11. Use code: EXPANSION10 for a 10% discount: https://blockworks.co/event/permissionless-iii -- Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (01:48) The Integrated Thesis (10:26) Permissionless III Ad (17:53) Purpose of Blockchains (19:12) ZK Based AI (25:18) Limits of Solana (36:42) Trade Offs of Modular Stack (43:05) Monetization in Modular System (56:07) App Chain Thesis - - Disclaimer Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation. Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Rex, Jon, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

In this episode, we dive deep into Skip Protocol's acquisition by the Cosmos Hub and what it means for the future of ecosystem. Barry and Zaki join to discuss the evolution of Cosmos, the challenges of blockchain standardization, and Skip's vision for unifying the ecosystem. They then discuss the implications of IBC Eureka, the launch of Commonware, and broader industry trends around execution environments and settlement layers. Thanks for tuning in! - - Follow Zaki: https://x.com/zmanian  Follow Barry: https://x.com/BPIV400  Follow Nick: https://x.com/nickwh8te Follow Mike: https://x.com/MikeIppolito_ Follow Expansion: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@expansionpod Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/4bGKYYM Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3Vaubq1 Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ -- Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (01:17) Skip Protocol Acquired by Cosmos Hub (06:42) Cosmos Hub Origin Story (12:01) Role of Cosmos Hub & Skip (29:22) Goals of Cosmos Hub (34:44) Avalanche vs Cosmos (44:06) Impact of IBC Eureka (50:08) Movement & VM Diversity (56:55) Network Effects of Execution vs Settlement - - Disclaimer Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation. Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Rex, Jon, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

In this episode, Sid Gandhi, co-founder and CEO of Polybase Labs, discusses the payment network, Payy. The conversation delves into the challenges of crypto payments, Payy's approach to solving these issues, and the architectural decisions behind their technology stack. Sid unpacks the future of onchain banking, the importance of self-custody, and the potential for Payy to become a modular platform for building diverse financial services. Thanks for tuning in! - - Follow Nick: https://x.com/nickwh8te Follow Sid: https://x.com/sidgandhi_xyz Follow Rex: https://x.com/LogarithmicRex Follow nosleepjon: https://x.com/nosleepjon Follow Expansion: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@expansionpod Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/4bGKYYM Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3Vaubq1 Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ -- Join us at Permissionless III Oct 9-11. Use code: EXPANSION10 for a 10% discount: https://blockworks.co/event/permissionless-iii -- Timestamps: - - Disclaimer Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation. Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Rex, Jon, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

In this episode, we dive deep into the world of cross-chain trading with Sunny, co-founder of Osmosis, who unpacks their latest product Polaris. We then move on to explore the implications of Succinct's ZK rollup solution for Optimism and unpack Eigen DA's revealing data on blockchain capacity. The conversation then shifts to Coinbase's launch of cbBTC and its potential impact on Bitcoin in DeFi. Thanks for tuning in! - - Follow Sunny: https://x.com/sunnya97 Follow Rex: https://x.com/LogarithmicRex Follow nosleepjon: https://x.com/nosleepjon Follow Expansion: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@expansionpod Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/4bGKYYM Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3Vaubq1 Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ -- Join us at Permissionless III Oct 9-11. Use code: EXPANSION10 for a 10% discount: https://blockworks.co/event/permissionless-iii -- Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (00:53) Trading Tokens from Anywhere (17:18) Perils of Offchain Functions (30:05) Permissionless III Ad (31:37) Succint Solves ZK Rollups (38:58) Demand for DA (50:30) cbBTC Launch - - Disclaimer Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation. Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Rex, Jon, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

In this episode, Mike and Nick explore two critical challenges facing crypto as we enter the bull market: the looming stress test of crypto infrastructure and the psychological challenge of maintaining builder conviction. They dive deep into how Celestia's lazy bridging and Gelato's sovereign rollup are preparing for the scaling challenges ahead, while discussing staying true to your vision when competitors take shortcuts seem to be winning. They also share their biggest insights from DevCon and Ethereum's latest moves to nationalize rollups. Thanks for tuning in! - - Follow Nick: https://x.com/nickwh8te Follow Mike: https://x.com/MikeIppolito_ Follow Expansion: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@expansionpod Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/4bGKYYM Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3Vaubq1 Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ -- Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (01:09) DevCon Takeaways (08:53) Finality vs Blocktimes (10:38) Lazy Bridging (27:09) RaaS Provider Conflict (31:14) Espresso Mainnet (44:05) Sequencing Layer on Celestia (53:41) Market Timing - - Disclaimer Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation. Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Rex, Jon, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

This episode of Expansion dives into Celestia's latest improvement proposals with Dean Eigenmann and Marko Baricevic. We discuss their proposals on locking staking rewards and decreasing Celestia’s inflation rate, which aim to improve tokenomics and long-term network sustainability. The conversation expands into broader debates on proof-of-stake incentives, inflation models, and Celestia’s relationship with Ethereum. Enjoy! Resources CIP-29: Decrease Inflation and Adjust Disinflation: https://github.com/celestiaorg/CIPs/blob/main/cips/cip-29.md CIP-30: Prevent Auto-Claiming of Staking Rewards: https://github.com/celestiaorg/CIPs/blob/main/cips/cip-30.md CIP-31: Treat Rewards as part of the Lockup Account: https://github.com/celestiaorg/CIPs/blob/main/cips/cip-31.md – L2s and L3s are history. Supra Containers give you dedicated, customizable AppSpace on Supra’s Layer-1 to rescue you from the costs, complexities, and fragmentation of L2s and L3s.  Containers help you build with better customization and control than appchains at a fraction of the cost. Use your own token as the gas token, create local fee markets with custom gas amounts or just go gasless, and scale on demand whenever you need to. Supra Containers are secured by Supra’s L1 nodes and get access to Supra’s 500k TPS throughput, sub-second consensus latency, and all their built-in services like oracle price feeds and onchain randomness without any overhead. Supra is also MultiVM compatible so you can easily deploy your EVM, Move, and SVM smart contracts here. Get all the freedom, control, and tools you need to build super dApps and bring the world onchain. To learn more, visit www.supra.com/blockworks – Ledger, the global leader in digital asset security, proudly sponsors Bell Curve! As Ledger celebrates 10 years of securing 20% of global crypto, it remains the top choice for securing your assets. Buy a LEDGER™ device now, and build confidently, knowing your BTC, ETH, SOL, and more are safe. Buy now on https://shop.ledger.com/?r=1da180a5de00. – Join us at DAS NYC 2025!  Use code EXPANSION10 for a 10% discount: https://blockworks.co/event/digital-asset-summit-2025-new-york - - Follow Dean: https://x.com/DeanEigenmann Follow Marko: https://x.com/MarkoBaricevic_ Follow Mike: https://x.com/MikeIppolito_ Follow Expansion: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://bit.ly/3QLwfTs Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/4bGKYYM Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3Vaubq1 Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ -- Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (04:49) Celestia's Relationship to Cosmos (09:28) Changing Celestia's Economics and Incentives (13:03) Supra Pre-Roll (13:30) Ledger Pre-Roll (13:47) Locking Staking Rewards (16:45) What is the Ideal Stake Rate? (24:49) Lowering Celestia's Inflation Rate (33:30) The Inflation Debate (42:27) Supra Mid-Roll (43:11) Ledger Mid-Roll (43:47) Should Celestia Focus on Generating Fees? (50:47) Is the L1 Premium Dead? (01:00:33) Celestia's Relationship With Ethereum - - Disclaimer Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation. Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Michael, Nick, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

In today's episode Nick White unveils Celestia's ambitious roadmap, challenging the notion that DA is a commodity. He argues for a future of abundant, sovereign blockspace that could render current L1s obsolete. He also dissects Celestia's three-pillar strategy: abundant block space with gigabyte blocks, verifiable block space through light nodes, and frictionless blockspace via innovations like ZK accounts. The conversation explores how Celestia aims to enable truly unstoppable applications, potentially reshaping the blockchain landscape and even resisting nation-state interference. Thanks for tuning in! - - Follow Nick: https://x.com/nickwh8te Follow Rex: https://x.com/LogarithmicRex Follow nosleepjon: https://x.com/nosleepjon Follow Expansion: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@expansionpod Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/4bGKYYM Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3Vaubq1 Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ -- Join us at Permissionless III Oct 9-11. Use code: EXPANSION10 for a 10% discount: https://blockworks.co/event/permissionless-iii -- Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (02:39) DA as a Business (20:12) Is DA a Commodity? (32:22) Permissionless III Ad (33:54) Build Whatever (51:56) Credible Neutralality Inheritance (55:31) Celestia Roadmap Pillars (1:13:07) Frictionless Blockspace - - Disclaimer Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation. Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Rex, Jon, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

In this week's roundup, we discuss key takeaways from the 2025 Digital Asset Summit, including Donald Trump’s remarks on stablecoins, and the growing institutional interest in crypto. We explore the implications of stablecoin adoption, the role of TradFi in DeFi, and the evolving regulatory landscape. The conversation also touches on enterprise adoption of blockchains, and speculation on Elon Musk launching a stablecoin. Enjoy! Resources Why BitTorrent Mattered: https://medium.com/@simonhmorris/why-bittorrent-mattered-bittorrent-lessons-for-crypto-1-of-4-fa3c6fcef488 – L2s and L3s are history. Supra Containers give you dedicated, customizable AppSpace on Supra’s Layer-1 to rescue you from the costs, complexities, and fragmentation of L2s and L3s.  Containers help you build with better customization and control than appchains at a fraction of the cost. Use your own token as the gas token, create local fee markets with custom gas amounts or just go gasless, and scale on demand whenever you need to. Supra Containers are secured by Supra’s L1 nodes and get access to Supra’s 500k TPS throughput, sub-second consensus latency, and all their built-in services like oracle price feeds and onchain randomness without any overhead. Supra is also MultiVM compatible so you can easily deploy your EVM, Move, and SVM smart contracts here. Get all the freedom, control, and tools you need to build super dApps and bring the world onchain. To learn more, visit www.supra.com/blockworks – Ledger, the global leader in digital asset security, proudly sponsors Bell Curve! As Ledger celebrates 10 years of securing 20% of global crypto, it remains the top choice for securing your assets. Buy a LEDGER™ device now, and build confidently, knowing your BTC, ETH, SOL, and more are safe. Buy now on https://shop.ledger.com/?r=1da180a5de00. – Missed DAS? Join us from June 24th-June 26th at Permissionless IV!  Tickets: https://blockworks.co/event/permissionless-iv - - Follow Jill: https://x.com/jillrgunter Follow Nick: https://x.com/nickwh8te Follow Uma: https://x.com/pumatheuma Follow Mike: https://x.com/MikeIppolito_ Follow Expansion: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://bit.ly/3QLwfTs Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/4bGKYYM Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3Vaubq1 Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ -- Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (01:48) Trump Addresses DAS (04:21) Institutional Interest in Crypto is Growing (11:37) Supra Pre-Roll (12:02) Ledger Pre-Roll (12:21) TradFi and DeFi Collide (20:13) Betting on the Growth of Stablecoins (27:20) Will Elon Launch USDX? (30:18) Supra Mid-Roll (31:03) Ledger Mid-Roll (31:38) Solana's Controversial Ad (34:33) Crypto's Lobbying Presence in DC (47:11) Operating Within the L2 Landscape - - Disclaimer Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation. Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Michael, Nick, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

In this episode of Expansion, we dive deep into the intersection of crypto, AI, and intellectual property. Our guests, Daniel from Modulus Labs and Jason from Story Protocol, explore how zero-knowledge proofs can provide trust and verification for AI models. They discuss the potential of programmable IP on blockchains, the future of creativity in an AI-driven world, and how these technologies could revolutionize industries from healthcare to education. The conversation culminates in a vision of blockchain as the essential trust layer for intelligent machines, potentially reshaping our understanding of digital identity and interaction. - - Follow Daniel: https://twitter.com/realdanielshorr Follow Jason:https://twitter.com/jasonjzhao Follow Rex: https://x.com/LogarithmicRex Follow nosleepjon: https://x.com/nosleepjon Follow Expansion: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@expansionpod Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/4bGKYYM Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3Vaubq1 Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ -- Join us at Permissionless III Oct 9-11. Use code: EXPANSION10 for a 10% discount: https://blockworks.co/event/permissionless-iii -- Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (01:42) The Crypto & AI Intersection (10:46) Permissionless III Ad (12:06) Evolution of zkAI (18:31) Efficiency of On and Offchain Worlds (28:48) Spam Filtering AI (36:03) Does AI Own IP? (42:09) Scaling AI Model Verification (50:59) End Game of Creativity & zkAI - - Disclaimer Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation. Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Rex, Jon, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

In this episode, David Hoffman, co-founder of Bankless, and Michael Ippolito, co-founder of Blockworks, join Rex to dissect the current state of crypto. They dive into insights from EthCC and the Modular Summit, debating the industry's shift from apps to infrastructure, the role of VCs, and the challenges of user adoption. The conversation explores crypto's identity crisis and its path towards real-world utility beyond speculation. Join us on the search for crypto's killer app, enjoy! - - Follow David: https://x.com/TrustlessState Follow Michael: https://x.com/MikeIppolito_ Follow Rex: https://x.com/LogarithmicRex Follow nosleepjon: https://x.com/nosleepjon Follow Expansion: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@expansionpod Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/4bGKYYM Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3Vaubq1 Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ -- Join us at Permissionless III Oct 9-11. Use code: EXPANSION10 for a 10% discount: https://blockworks.co/event/permissionless-iii -- Timestamps: (00:00) EthCC & Modular Summit Reflection (04:15) The Crypto Conference Industry (8:20) Evolution of Ownership (12:30) Future of Crypto Funding (16:50) Is Crypto Not for Apps? (23:20) What is Crypto Securing? (29:40) Infra vs Apps - - Disclaimer Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation. Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Rex, Jon, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

In this episode, Ben Fisch, CEO of Espresso Systems, delves into the complexities of rollup interoperability and shared sequencing. He explains Espresso's innovative two-component system: a fast finality service and a marketplace for sequencing rights. The discussion covers the benefits of coordinated sequencing, challenges in crosschain communication, and the potential for synchronous composability across different blockchain ecosystems. Ben also addresses concerns about MEV exposure and outlines strategies for balancing risks and benefits in this evolving landscape. - - Follow Ben: https://x.com/benafisch Follow Rex: https://x.com/LogarithmicRex Follow nosleepjon: https://x.com/nosleepjon Follow Expansion: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@expansionpod Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/4bGKYYM Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3Vaubq1 Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ -- Join us at Permissionless III Oct 9-11. Use code: EXPANSION10 for a 10% discount: https://blockworks.co/event/permissionless-iii -- Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (02:55) Shared Sequencing Landscape Today (06:02) Base Sequencing (17:39) Permissionless III Ad (19:11) Shared Sequencing Marketplace (32:55) Rise of Superchains (43:46) Standards of Crosschain Communication (48:41) MEV Exposure - - Disclaimer Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation. Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Rex, Jon, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

In today's episode John Adler and Evan Forbes reveal how three major breakthroughs at blockchain's data layer may enable truly unstoppable applications. They explain why previous attempts at unstoppable apps have fallen short, and how Big Blocks, Vacuum, and Big Blocks, Slow Squares will finally make internet-scale decentralized applications possible. Thanks for tuning in! - - Follow John: https://x.com/jadler0 Follow Evan: https://x.com/evansforbes Follow Rex: https://x.com/LogarithmicRex Follow nosleepjon: https://x.com/nosleepjon Follow Expansion: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@expansionpod Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/4bGKYYM Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3Vaubq1 Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ -- Join us at Permissionless III Oct 9-11. Use code: EXPANSION10 for a 10% discount: https://blockworks.co/event/permissionless-iii -- Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (01:20) Schwab Upgrade to Celestia (15:24) Compact Blocks Perks & Limitations (28:31) Vacuum's Edge Case Solutions (40:47) Fast Blocks, Slow Squares (57:15) What's Left for Gigabyte Blocks (1:01:42) Impact of DA - - Disclaimer Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation. Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Rex, Jon, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

In this episode, Luis, founder of Gelato and Abundance, presents a compelling argument for sovereign rollups while challenging composability. We explore how traditional L2 bridge designs may be holding back scalability, diving deep into Abundance's achievement of 1 giga gas throughput through a sovereign rollup approach. Luis makes the controversial case that liquidity fragmentation is a "skill issue" rather than a technical problem, and examines why the future of scaling may not require the complex bridge architecture common in today's L2s. We close out by diving into the evolving relationship between rollup frameworks and RaaS providers. Thanks for tuning in! - - Follow Luis: https://x.com/luis_0x Follow Mike: https://x.com/MikeIppolito_ Follow Expansion: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@expansionpod Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/4bGKYYM Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3Vaubq1 Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ -- Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (02:39) Abundance Overview (08:26) What is Actually a Rollup? (12:17) Benefits of Sovereign Rollup (30:19) Giga Gas Production Ready (33:47) Abundant Blockspace Thesis (41:05) Rollup Framework Business Model (47:29) Benefit of Interop (54:51) RaaS vs Framework (1:02:14) Convergence of Solutions - - Disclaimer Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation. Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Rex, Jon, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

In this episode, we dive deep into the architecture and philosophy behind Eclipse with CTO Ben Lipschitz and Head of Strategy Terry. The conversation explores why applications need control over their own sequencing, challenging the traditional model where validators capture all the value. Learn about Eclipse's unique position bridging Ethereum and Solana ecosystems, their approach to local fee markets, and why the future of L2s may depend more on user/liquidity networks than settlement assurances. Thanks for tuning in! - - Follow Terry: https://x.com/0xtaetaehoho Follow Ben: https://x.com/convoluted_code Follow Nick: https://x.com/nickwh8te Follow Mike: https://x.com/MikeIppolito_ Follow Expansion: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@expansionpod Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/4bGKYYM Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3Vaubq1 Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ -- Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (03:51) Network Effects of Settlement vs Execution (18:12) Who has Leverage? (25:03) Application Specific Sequencing (38:55) L1 or L2 MEV Split (49:06) How do L1s Impact L2s (54:39) Selecting an L1 - - Disclaimer Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation. Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Rex, Jon, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

In this episode, we dive deep into the wild world of memecoins, exploring a recent McDonald's Instagram hack and the psychology behind crypto's most controversial trend. We then shift gears to discuss Jerome Powell's pivotal announcement on interest rate cuts and its implications for the crypto market. The conversation then moves to the modular blockchain space, debating the merits of app-specific chains versus shared-state systems. We also explore the Monad vs. MegaETH debate and its significance for Ethereum's future. Finally, we touch on if NFTs are actually dead. Thanks for tuning in! - - Follow Joseph: https://x.com/Casa_Intern Follow Rex: https://x.com/LogarithmicRex Follow nosleepjon: https://x.com/nosleepjon Follow Expansion: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@expansionpod Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/4bGKYYM Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3Vaubq1 Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ -- Join us at Permissionless III Oct 9-11. Use code: EXPANSION10 for a 10% discount: https://blockworks.co/event/permissionless-iii -- Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (02:04) Memecoin Arena (14:01) Are Memecoins Bad? (27:31) Permissionless III Ad (29:02) Jerome Powell's Rate Cuts (32:21) Will Every App Launch Chains (44:00) Monad vs MegaETH Debate (52:56) Are NFTs Dead? - - Disclaimer Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation. Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Rex, Jon, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

In this week's roundup, we dive deep into the evolving dynamics between L1s and applications, exploring whether apps are truly "parasitic" to chains like Solana or if this represents a natural evolution of value capture in crypto. The conversation covers Abstract Chain's innovative approach to creator-focused L2s, Rari's strategic stack upgrades, and the latest developments in ZK tech including real-time Ethereum proving. Along the way, we challenge traditional assumptions about protocol value capture and discuss why vertical integration might be the key to crypto's consumer adoption. Enjoy! - - Follow Jill: https://x.com/jillrgunter Follow Nick: https://x.com/nickwh8te Follow Uma: https://x.com/pumatheuma Follow Mike: https://x.com/MikeIppolito_ Follow Expansion: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ExpansionPod Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/4bGKYYM Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3Vaubq1 Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ -- Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (03:24) Is Crypto Cool Again? (07:21) Abstract Chain Launch (22:14) DEX Structural Advantage (24:11) Are Apps Parasitic to Solana? (36:18) Tech Demand Paradox (40:59) Rollup Platform Strategy (49:27) Rari's Upgrade (53:11) State of ZK - - Disclaimer Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation. Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Rex, Jon, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

This episode dives deep into the world of alternative blockchain virtual machines (VMs), exploring how new designs are addressing limitations of the EVM. Dino, Rushi and Jarry discuss the technical distinctions between VMs and execution environments, the challenges of fragmentation and interoperability, and strategies for building developer and user communities. Stay tuned for all of this and much more! - - Follow Rushi: https://x.com/rushimanche Follow Dino: https://x.com/0xdinoeggs Follow Jarry: https://x.com/jarxiao Follow Rex: https://x.com/LogarithmicRex Follow nosleepjon: https://x.com/nosleepjon Follow Expansion: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@expansionpod Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/4bGKYYM Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3Vaubq1 Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ - - Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (01:09) What are Blockchain VMs? (07:16) Next Gen VM Solutions (15:04) Blended Execution Vision (16:25) Permissionless III Ad (25:57) Why an L2? (30:46) Culture & Ecosystem Objectives (32:19) Fragmentation of Liquidity (43:27) Cultural Network Effects (52:57) VM End Game - - Disclaimer Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation. Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Rex, Jon, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

Today's episode with Matt from Caldera explores how Rollup-as-a-Service providers are dramatically reducing the cost and complexity of launching L2s, from $15M down to just thousands. Learn about Caldera's strategy for standardizing blockchain infrastructure, their perspective on different rollup stacks (Arbitrum, Optimism, zkSync), and their vision for connecting multiple blockchain clusters through their meta layer. Thanks for tuning in! - - Follow Matt: https://twitter.com/0xkatz Follow Rex: https://x.com/LogarithmicRex Follow nosleepjon: https://x.com/nosleepjon Follow Expansion: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@expansionpod Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/4bGKYYM Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3Vaubq1 Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ -- Join us at Permissionless III Oct 9-11. Use code: EXPANSION10 for a 10% discount: https://blockworks.co/event/permissionless-iii -- Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (01:26) Rollup as a Service Model (06:11) True Cost of L2s (15:09) End Game of Infra (34:15) Pros and Cons of Stacks (48:39) Are RAAS Providers Centralizing? (57:10) Virtual Machine Inclusion - - Disclaimer Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation. Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Rex, Jon, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

In this episode, we dive into deep into the emerging landscape of Bitcoin L2s as it crosses $100k. With Uma Roy of Succint and Jill Gunter of Espress Systems joining us, we explore ZK's impact on crypto's scaling future. To close out we debate Ethereum's strategic direction and the complex relationship between L1s and L2s as Solana continues gaining adoption. Thanks for tuning in! - - Follow Uma:https://x.com/pumatheuma Follow Jill: https://x.com/jillrgunter Follow Nick: https://x.com/nickwh8te Follow Mike: https://x.com/MikeIppolito_ Follow Expansion: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@expansionpod Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/4bGKYYM Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3Vaubq1 Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ -- Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (01:48) $100k Bitcoin Sentiment (05:55) Bitcoin L2 Horizon (10:01) Modularity in Bitcoin (15:48) Over Indexing Decentralization (28:59) Succient Decentralized Prover Network (43:43) Competing with Intents Model (48:13) State of Ethereum - - Disclaimer Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation. Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Rex, Jon, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed. (00:00) Introduction (01:48) $100k Bitcoin Sentiment (05:55) Bitcoin L2 Horizon (10:01) Modularity in Bitcoin (15:48) Over Indexing Decentralization (28:59) Succient Decentralized Prover Network (43:43) Competing with Intents Model (48:13) State of Ethereum

In this episode, we explore the expanding utility of blockchain technology beyond financial applications. Joe Coll of Witness Protocol discusses how blockchain properties can be applied to offchain data, addressing challenges of data integrity in the age of AI and generated content. We also delve into the concept of "data existence" and its importance for trust-minimized systems. The conversation covers potential use cases for blockchain verification of off-chain data, from AI interactions to Web2 integration, offering insights into the future of digital trust and data integrity on the internet. Enjoy! - - Follow Joe: https://x.com/0x_osprey Follow Rex: https://x.com/LogarithmicRex Follow nosleepjon: https://x.com/nosleepjon Follow Expansion: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@expansionpod Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/4bGKYYM Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3Vaubq1 Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ -- Join us at Permissionless III Oct 9-11. Use code: EXPANSION10 for a 10% discount: https://blockworks.co/event/permissionless-iii -- Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (01:43) What is Data Availability Today (10:51) Permissionless III ad (12:23) Witness Protocol's DA (16:30) The Resource Market (21:49) Witness Data Flow (27:51) Proving Mechanism (39:29) Purpose of Blockchains (51:41) Usecases of Witness Protocol - - Disclaimer Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation. Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Rex, Jon, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

In this episode of Expansion, Rex and Jon sit down with Jon Kol, co-founder of Hyperlane, to unpack interop solutions today. Kol shares his journey from traditional finance to crypto, explaining the vision behind Hyperlane's open-source approach to crosschain communication. The conversation delves into the challenges of building sustainable infrastructure in a rapidly changing environment, the potential impact of z proofs, and the future of blockchains. Thanks for tuning in! - - Follow Jon Kol: https://x.com/thePalenimbus Follow Rex: https://x.com/LogarithmicRex Follow nosleepjon: https://x.com/nosleepjon Follow Expansion: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@expansionpod Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/4bGKYYM Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3Vaubq1 Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ -- Join us at Permissionless III Oct 9-11. Use code: EXPANSION10 for a 10% discount: https://blockworks.co/event/permissionless-iii -- Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (01:47) What's Wrong with Banking (06:15) Inevitable Need for Interop (14:57) Permissionless III Ad (16:17) Where is the Value of Bridging? (25:27) Are Fees a Race to $0? (32:45) Differentiation of HyperLane (40:45) Why Enable Interop? (45:45) End Game of Communities (57:20) Impact of ZK - - Disclaimer Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation. Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Rex, Jon, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

In this episode, we’re joined by Jon Charbonneau, Co-Founder of DBA to discuss L1 & L2 token value capture! We discussed measuring profitability of tokens, PoS vs PoW value accrual, and whether or not issuance is a cost. Additionally, we unpacked the economics of L2s, and compared them to L1 economics. Finally, we asked ourselves - can anything flip BTC as money? Thanks for tuning in! -- Resources L1 & L2 Token Value Capture: https://dba.xyz/l1-l2-token-value-capture/ Uncommon Core 2.0 - Ethereum’s Staking Endgame: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ethereums-staking-endgame/id1517659188?i=1000650123776 -- L2s and L3s are history. Supra Containers give you dedicated, customizable AppSpace on Supra’s Layer-1 to rescue you from the costs, complexities, and fragmentation of L2s and L3s. Containers help you build with better customization and control than appchains at a fraction of the cost. Use your own token as the gas token, create local fee markets with custom gas amounts or just go gasless, and scale on demand whenever you need to. Supra Containers are secured by Supra’s L1 nodes and get access to Supra’s 500k TPS throughput, sub-second consensus latency, and all their built-in services like oracle price feeds and onchain randomness without any overhead. Supra is also MultiVM compatible so you can easily deploy your EVM, Move, and SVM smart contracts here. Get all the freedom, control, and tools you need to build super dApps and bring the world onchain. To learn more, visit www.supra.com/blockworks -- Index Coop's Leverage Suite provides streamlined access to leverage, with built-in liquidation protection and low fees. Non-US users can now trade 2x, 3x and inverse leverage tokens for ETH and BTC on Arbitrum, Base, and Ethereum Mainnet. Stop overpaying for leverage. Save up to 6x in fees compared to perps: https://indexcoop.com/blockworks-leverage -- Follow Dan: https://x.com/smyyguy Follow Jon: https://x.com/jon_charb Follow Mike: https://x.com/MikeIppolito_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://bit.ly/3R1D1D9 Subscribe on Apple: https://apple.co/3pQTfmD Subscribe on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3cpKZXH -- Timestamps: (0:00) Introduction (2:52) Crypto Networks Are Not Companies (10:17) Token Holder P&L (14:52) Are Taxes A Cost For Issuance? (22:40) Network Sustainability (25:57) Supra Ad (26:53) Index Coop Ad (27:59) How Can We Compare Networks? (39:04) Understanding Operator Costs (50:13) Network Metrics to Know (56:53) Network Valuation Walkthrough (59:37) Maintaining Network Security (1:09:18) How Does Token Utility Impact Network Valuations? (1:17:02) Subsidizing Networks (1:30:36) Applying REV to Network Valuation Models (1:40:53) Stages of Network Development (1:49:16) MEV & Network Fee Durability (1:57:58) The Monetary vs Cashflow Camps -- Disclaimer: Nothing said on Bell Curve is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Mike, Jason, Michael, Vance and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

In this episode, we dive deep into the creation of Superlane, crypto's first major move into rollup interoperability. We discuss the evolving landscape of rollup costs and solutions, examining the challenges and opportunities in launching sovereign rollups. The conversation then shifts to Celestia's recent performance upgrades and its implications for data availability. We also explore Avalanche's success with Off the Grid and what this means for crypto and gaming. Finally, we touch on the emergence of AI-driven meme coin traders and their implications for the crypto space. Thanks for tuning in! - - Follow Rex: https://x.com/LogarithmicRex Follow nosleepjon: https://x.com/nosleepjon Follow Expansion: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@expansionpod Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/4bGKYYM Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3Vaubq1 Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ -- Join us at Permissionless III Oct 9-11. Use code: EXPANSION10 for a 10% discount: https://blockworks.co/event/permissionless-iii -- Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (00:51) SuperLane & Super Chain Interop (18:17) Celestia DA Upgrade (21:32) The Costs of Rollups (37:13) Off the Grid's Growth (47:16) AI Crypto Cults - - Disclaimer Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation. Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Rex, Jon, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

In this episode, we dive deep into the heart of crypto's purpose. Our guest, Logan from Frictionless Capital, challenges conventional blockchain scaling, arguing for high-throughput systems. We explore the tension between performance and decentralization, dissect the role of Layer 2 solutions, and debate the true purpose of crypto. This conversation highlights the critical engineering trade-offs shaping the industry and questions whether current approaches align with blockchain's ultimate goals. You don't want to miss this! - - Follow Logan: https://x.com/LoganJastremski Follow Rex: https://x.com/LogarithmicRex Follow nosleepjon: https://x.com/nosleepjon Follow Expansion: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@expansionpod Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/4bGKYYM Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3Vaubq1 Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ -- Join us at Permissionless III Oct 9-11. Use code: EXPANSION10 for a 10% discount: https://blockworks.co/event/permissionless-iii -- Timestamps: 00:06 Introduction 00:54 Purpose of Blockchain 09:22 Optimizing for Network Performance 17:23 Credible Neutrality 23:23 Measuring Blockchain Success 34:58 What's Wrong with Crypto? 45:33 Consensus vs Performance 01:06:04 Are We Replacing TradFi? - - Disclaimer Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation. Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Rex, Jon, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

In this episode, Mike and Nick discuss three major trends they expect to shape crypto in 2025: the inevitable scaling challenges facing monolithic L1s like Solana and Ethereum, the expansion of rehypothecation across DeFi protocols and bridges, and massive growth in stablecoin adoption driven by regulatory tailwinds and institutional issuers. They explore technical constraints around L1 scaling, analyze the business dynamics pushing protocols toward rehypothecation, and examine why stablecoin market cap could exceed $450B. The conversation also covers complementary predictions around ZK proofs, TEEs, and the American crypto renaissance. Thanks for tuning in and happy holidays! - - Follow Nick: https://x.com/nickwh8te Follow Mike: https://x.com/MikeIppolito_ Follow Expansion: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@expansionpod Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/4bGKYYM Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3Vaubq1 Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ -- Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (01:48) Solana & Eth Scale Fails (07:25) American Crypto Renaissance (11:28) Institutions Launching Chains (19:58) Stablecoin Marketcap Exceeds $450B (24:30) 2025 is zk Year (29:24) TEE Growth (39:04) Fee Switches, Rehypotheticating Assets (45:23) Celestia 20mbps Throughput (50:26) AI & Crypto Bubble (1:00:23) New Media Models - - Disclaimer Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation. Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Rex, Jon, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

In this episode, we dive deep into Prism, a protocol built on Celestia that aims to solve key transparency issues plaguing internet security. Ryan from Prism and Jacob from Celestia discuss the limitations of current end-to-end encryption methods and how Prism's decentralized approach could impact messaging apps to VPNs. They explore the broader implications for Web3, the importance of light node adoption, and how Prism could bridge the gap between Web2 and Web3. Thanks for tuning in! - - Follow Jacob: https://twitter.com/jacobarluck Follow Ryan: https://twitter.com/distractedm1nd Follow Rex: https://x.com/LogarithmicRex Follow nosleepjon: https://x.com/nosleepjon Follow Expansion: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@expansionpod Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/4bGKYYM Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3Vaubq1 Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ -- Join us at Permissionless III Oct 9-11. Use code: EXPANSION10 for a 10% discount: https://blockworks.co/event/permissionless-iii -- Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (02:21) Perils of End-to-End Encryption (23:50) Permissionless III Ad (25:22) Expanding Blockspace Usecases (36:22) Prism Usecases (48:07) Value of Sovereign Layers (1:03:09) First GTM Products - - Disclaimer Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation. Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Rex, Jon, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

In this episode, Keone from Monad and Zon from Initia to discuss the spectrum between modular and integrated blockchain designs. They explore the tradeoffs in decentralization, performance and scalability between the two approaches. They explore AppChains, rollups, composability challenges in modular systems, EVM compatibility, and when to scale blockchains horizontally vs vertically. To close out Keone and Zon also share valuable insights on building Web3 communities organically. Thanks for tuning in! - - Follow Zon: https://x.com/ItsAlwaysZonny Follow Keone: https://x.com/keoneHD Follow Rex: https://x.com/LogarithmicRex Follow nosleepjon: https://x.com/nosleepjon Follow Expansion: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@expansionpod Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/4bGKYYM Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3Vaubq1 Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ - - Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (03:01) Modular vs Integrated (11:24) Who are Appchains for? (28:35) Composability in Modular World (35:52) Monad's Endgame (39:24) Importance of Decentralization (47:42) Building Web3 Community - - Disclaimer Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation. Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Rex, Jon, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

This episode kicks off with Celestia's massive $100 million raise and its implications for modular blockchains. We then dive into the evolving landscape of blockchain interoperability, examining Hyperlane's SVM expansion and Wormhole's Era 3 upgrades. The conversation shifts to TreasureDAO's controversial move from Arbitrum to zkSync, debating project loyalty and financial incentives. We close by discussing Athena's EUSD, exploring dollar-denominated restaking and stablecoin centralization concerns. Thanks for tuning in! - - Follow Rex: https://x.com/LogarithmicRex Follow nosleepjon: https://x.com/nosleepjon Follow Expansion: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@expansionpod Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/4bGKYYM Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3Vaubq1 Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ -- Join us at Permissionless III Oct 9-11. Use code: EXPANSION10 for a 10% discount: https://blockworks.co/event/permissionless-iii -- Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (01:18) Celestia & Initia Raise (06:19) Kyle Samani & Vitalik Debate (12:00) SVM Adoption (16:53) Permissionless III Ad (18:25) Wormhole Era 3 (28:14) Issuance Centralization (40:00) Ethena Liquid Restaking LRT - - Disclaimer Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation. Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Rex, Jon, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

In this episode, Mike and Nick are joined by special guest Zon from Initia to discuss the implications of Trump's victory on the crypto industry. Shifting gears they explore Polymarket's remarkable accuracy in predicting the election outcome and what it means for decentralized prediction markets. They also dive deep into Eclipse's groundbreaking launch, examining the future of SVM rollups and alternative VMs. The discussion concludes with an analysis of purpose-built chains versus app-specific chains, and what it means for the future of crypto infra. Thanksf or tuning in! - - Follow Nick: https://x.com/nickwh8te Follow Zon: https://x.com/ItsAlwaysZonny Follow Mike: https://x.com/MikeIppolito_ Follow Expansion: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@expansionpod Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/4bGKYYM Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3Vaubq1 Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ -- The Aggregation Summit, organized by Polygon Labs, is happening in Bangkok, Thailand, November 10-11, 2024 Learn more and get your early bird tickets now at https://www.agglayer.dev -- Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (01:41) Thailand's Crypto Scene (04:04) Crypto's Post Election Thoughts (11:11) Crypto Regulatory Clearance (23:15) Eclipse Launch (32:45) Will Solana have L2s? (39:58) AAS (43:09) Purpose Built Chains - - Disclaimer Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation. Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Rex, Jon, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

This week's roundup Trump token phenomenon and its implications for blockchain infrastructure, including analysis of Solana's performance under stress and its competition with Ethereum's rollup ecosystem. We then explore Ethereum Foundation's cultural challenges and potential reforms, including the possibility of a second foundation. To close our we examine new Layer 1 developments emerging from the Solana ecosystem and debate the future of blockchain architecture. - - Follow Jill: https://x.com/jillrgunter Follow Nick: https://x.com/nickwh8te Follow Uma: https://x.com/pumatheuma Follow Mike: https://x.com/MikeIppolito_ Follow Expansion: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ExpansionPod Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/4bGKYYM Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3Vaubq1 Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ -- Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (02:57) Trump & Melania Token Launch (13:03) Solana's Performance (23:14) How People Onboard in Crypto (30:30) Native Rollups (45:47) Ethereum's Privatization (57:16) Ethereum's Leadership (01:06:27) Konstantin's Ethereum Foundation (01:12:23) Fire Dancer Forks - - Disclaimer Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation. Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Rex, Jon, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

In this episode, we dive deep into L2 scaling architecture with Josh from Astria and Terry from Eclipse. They explore the intricacies of shared sequencing, data availability, and the evolving landscape of L1 and L2 solutions. They unpack the technical challenges of decentralization, the role of Celestia, and the innovative approaches both projects are taking to create more efficient and scalable systems. From MEV capture to bridging solutions, this episode is a must listen! - - Follow Terry: https://x.com/0xtaetaehoho Follow Josh: https://x.com/Jskybowen Follow Rex: https://x.com/LogarithmicRex Follow nosleepjon: https://x.com/nosleepjon Follow Expansion: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@expansionpod Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/4bGKYYM Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3Vaubq1 Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ -- Join us at Permissionless III Oct 9-11. Use code: EXPANSION10 for a 10% discount: https://blockworks.co/event/permissionless-iii -- Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (01:46) Astria & Eclipse Builds (12:54) What is Settlement? (19:32) Permissionless III Ad (21:04) Decentralization Sequencer Spectrum (35:53) Incentives for Shared Sequencing (53:31) Based Sequencing Paradigm (58:02) Builder Pitch (1:03:29) Is DA a Commodity - - Disclaimer Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation. Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Rex, Jon, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

In this episode, Chris Burniske and Ryan Watkins join us to explore the evolving relationship between applications and infrastructure in crypto's value accrual balance. They dissect the current state of infrastructure premiums, examine how ETFs are reshaping market dynamics, and discuss the emerging opportunities in DeFi and AI integration. Thanks for tuning in! - - Follow Chris: https://x.com/cburniske?lang=en Follow Ryan: https://x.com/ryanwatkins_ Follow Nick: https://x.com/nickwh8te Follow Mike: https://x.com/MikeIppolito_ Follow Expansion: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@expansionpod Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/4bGKYYM Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3Vaubq1 Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ -- The Aggregation Summit, organized by Polygon Labs, is happening in Bangkok, Thailand, November 10-11, 2024 Learn more and get your early bird tickets now at https://www.agglayer.dev -- Timestamps: (00:00) - Introduction (02:27) - Applications vs Blockchains (28:47) - Value Accrual End Game (43:32) - Aggregation Summit Ad (44:16) - Impact of ETFs (1:03:16) - Crypto's AI Intersection - - Disclaimer Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation. Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Rex, Jon, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

In this episode, we explore the concept of sovereignty in crypto with Nick White, examining how it enables users to opt out of oppressive systems and retain control of their assets. We discuss the tension between user and developer sovereignty, diving into how modular blockchain architecture creates new possibilities for both. The conversation then shifts to the intersection of crypto with the increasing importance of peer-to-peer settlement. We explore the fascinating connection between AI and crypto sovereignty, before concluding with thoughts on blockchain's role in establishing verifiable truth in our digital future. Thanks for tuning in! - - Follow Nick: https://x.com/nickwh8te Follow Rex: https://x.com/LogarithmicRex Follow nosleepjon: https://x.com/nosleepjon Follow Expansion: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@expansionpod Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/4bGKYYM Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3Vaubq1 Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ -- Join us at Permissionless III Oct 9-11. Use code: EXPANSION10 for a 10% discount: https://blockworks.co/event/permissionless-iii -- Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (03:15) Evolution of Sovereignty (15:45) System Op-in (34:33) Peer to Peer Settlement (47:49) The Value of Truth - - Disclaimer Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation. Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Rex, Jon, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

In this episode, we explore the evolving landscape of Bitcoin L2s and debate the fundamental question of crypto's use case. We dive into the technical and cultural challenges facing Bitcoin L2s, examine how different L2 ecosystems might develop unique characteristics, and unpack a pivotal ideological divide between those who see blockchain as primarily asset ledgers versus those who envision unlimited innovation potential. We close out by discussing continued blockchain experimentation and the vision of a verifiable internet. Thanks for tuning in! - - Follow Nick: https://x.com/nickwh8te Follow Mike: https://x.com/MikeIppolito_ Follow Expansion: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@expansionpod Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/4bGKYYM Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3Vaubq1 Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ -- Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (01:48) Bitcoin L2 Demand? (20:31) Absolute vs Relative Security (31:03) Based Rollups on Celestia (43:11) Lazy Chains & Community Chains (48:43) Usecase of Blockspace - - Disclaimer Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation. Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Rex, Jon, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

In today's episode Morpho CEO Paul Frambot breaks down their partnership with Coinbase that enables Bitcoin-backed loans through DeFi infrastructure. The conversation explores how Morpho's modular architecture allows seamless integration for major institutions while maintaining transparency and risk controls. Paul discusses Morpho's evolution from focusing purely on institutional clients to balancing both retail and B2B strategies. To close Mike and Paul discuss their thoughts on regulation, memecoins, and the challenging balance between innovation and user protection in DeFi. - - Follow Paul: https://x.com/PaulFrambot Follow Mike: https://x.com/MikeIppolito_ Follow Expansion: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ExpansionPod Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/4bGKYYM Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3Vaubq1 Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ -- Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (02:08) US Crypto Strategic Reserve (15:26) Tether's USDT Zero (23:28) USDC vs USDT (30:22) Ink vs Base Interop (34:08) App Chains vs Gen Purpose (38:42) Do Bitcoiners Want L2s? (50:12) Solana's Market Share (54:29) Coinbase USDC Loans on BTC (59:58) Unwarranted Bankless Fire (01:03:57) Crypto's Funding Mechanisms - - Disclaimer Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation. Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Rex, Jon, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

In this episode, the hosts dive into the evolving landscape of token distribution, exploring the shift from airdrops to stake drops citing EigenLayer's Season 2. They also discuss the cultural differences between Asian and Western crypto scenes, analyze recent SEC actions, and examine innovative cross-chain solutions from projects like 1nch and Osmosis. The conversation also touches on the challenges facing crypto culture, the potential death of airdrops, and the rise of intent-based architectures in DeFi. Thanks for tuning in! - - Follow Rex: https://x.com/LogarithmicRex Follow nosleepjon: https://x.com/nosleepjon Follow Expansion: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@expansionpod Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/4bGKYYM Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3Vaubq1 Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ -- Join us at Permissionless III Oct 9-11. Use code: EXPANSION10 for a 10% discount: https://blockworks.co/event/permissionless-iii -- Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (01:22) Cringe Crypto Flights (04:24) Crypto's Social Layer (09:48) Prism Private Messaging (13:01) Permissionless III Ad (14:33) Unify AVS (19:52) EigenLayer Stake Drop (27:07) Death of Airdrops (34:49) SEC Lawsuit Dismissed (45:40) 1nch Crosschain Swaps - - Disclaimer Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation. Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Rex, Jon, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

In this episode, Olaf Carlson-Wee and Nick White explain the shift from monolithic to modular blockchain architectures. They explore the origins of modular thinking in blockchain, the advantages of modular design, and its potential to solve scalability issues. The conversation closes out by discussing the various layers of the modular stack, emerging applications, and the importance of abstracting complexity for improved user experience. Enjoy! - - Follow Olaf: https://x.com/zxocw Follow Nick: https://x.com/nickwh8te Follow Rex: https://x.com/LogarithmicRex Follow nosleepjon: https://x.com/nosleepjon Follow Expansion: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@expansionpod Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/4bGKYYM Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3Vaubq1 Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ - - Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (09:26) Permissionless III Ad (10:46) Lazy Ledger Origins (19:31) Modular vs Monolithic (32:39) Layers of Moduler Stack (39:13) Next-Gen Modules (46:37) Rise of Applications (52:40) Abstracting Complexity - - Disclaimer Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation. Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Rex, Jon, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

In this episode, Jesse Pollak, head of Base at Coinbase, discusses how Base is building a global onchain economy to usher in the next era of the internet. He explains how the modular blockchain architecture of L2s and L3s on Base enables faster, cheaper, and better applications than anything online today. Jesse shares real-world examples of how businesses like restaurants are using Base to dramatically reduce costs, and how social media apps like Farcaster are leveraging open protocols to drive innovation. To close our he touches on the importance of the Stand With Crypto movement in advocating for clarity and common-sense crypto regulation. Enjoy! - - Follow Jesse: https://x.com/jessepollak Follow Rex: https://x.com/LogarithmicRex Follow nosleepjon: https://x.com/nosleepjon Follow Expansion: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@expansionpod Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/4bGKYYM Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3Vaubq1 Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ - - Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (02:06) What is Retail in Crypto? (04:04) Onchain is the New Online (10:45) Base GTM Strategy (16:59) Permissionless III Ad (18:40) Base User Adoption (28:26) Marketing to Businesses (33:50) L3 Strategy (42:44) Social Media Onchain Success (49:29) Stand With Crypto - - Disclaimer Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation. Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Rex, Jon, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

In today's episode Josh Bowen, founder of Astria, and Jon Charbonneau join Mike to discuss the recent launch of Astria and its role in the Celestia ecosystem. The conversation explores how different blockchain architectures are converging toward similar designs. They examine the economics of L1 tokens, the challenges of achieving true decentralization, and debate the future of blockchain L1 differentiation. They close out by discussing how technical constraints and market forces will continue to shape the end game of crypto infrastructure. Resources: Josh Bowen @ DBA Research Day https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5809YJpbhFg Jon Charb https://dba.mirror.xyz/UTPfxWe65dYrUu_RJX-5VkAJypFRyw3AZh6m0dRXYZk - - Follow Jon: https://x.com/jon_charb Follow Josh: https://x.com/Jskybowen Follow Mike: https://x.com/MikeIppolito_ Follow Expansion: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@expansionpod Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/4bGKYYM Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3Vaubq1 Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ -- Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (02:36) Extending Minimal Designs (09:42) Astria's Design (14:38) Purpose Built Infrastructure (24:09) POA Designs (36:22) Aggregation Summit Ad (37:05) What Makes L1 Tokens Valuable? (52:47) ZK's Impact on Astria (57:55) L1 Differentiation - - Disclaimer Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation. Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Rex, Jon, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

In this episode, Celestia co-founder Mustafa Al-Bassam dives deep into how lazy bridging and data availability sampling are rethinking crypto's scalability. Starting with the historical context of Bitcoin's block size wars, Mustafa explains how Celestia's architecture finally resolves the tension between bigger blocks and decentralization. The conversation explores the trade-offs between modular and integrated blockchain designs, the role of ZK proofs in scaling, and why light nodes may be more crucial than validators for true decentralization. Thanks for tuning in! - - Follow Mustafa: https://x.com/musalbas Follow Mike: https://x.com/MikeIppolito_ Follow Expansion: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@expansionpod Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/4bGKYYM Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3Vaubq1 Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ -- Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction 01:46 Modular vs Integrated Tradeoffs 05:33 L1 Bottlenecks 21:25 Time to Finality Constraint 35:11 1 GB Block Roadmap 47:31 Unbundling Consensus & Verification 53:52 Checks and Balances - - Disclaimer Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation. Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Rex, Jon, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

 In this week's roundup, the Roundup crew discusses the launch of Unichain, Succinct’s Prover Network testnet, and the economics of being a prover. Additionally, they “A Crisis of Trust”, and how ZKPs can be applied outside of crypto. Finally, they end the episode with discussion on BOLD and fault proofs. Enjoy! Resources Succinct’s Prover Network Testnet Announcement: https://x.com/SuccinctLabs/status/1888999158541087134  A Crisis of Trust: https://x.com/SuccinctLabs/status/1889749373854294295 – Join us at DAS NYC 2025!  Use code EXPANSION10 for a 10% discount: https://blockworks.co/event/digital-asset-summit-2025-new-york - - Follow Jill: https://x.com/jillrgunter Follow Nick: https://x.com/nickwh8te Follow Uma: https://x.com/pumatheuma Follow Mike: https://x.com/MikeIppolito_ Follow Expansion: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ExpansionPod Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/4bGKYYM Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3Vaubq1 Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ -- Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (02:42) Unichain Goes Live (27:00) Succinct's Prover Network Testnet (33:07) Economics of Being a Prover (43:13) A Crisis of Trust (56:55) BOLD & Fault Proofs - - Disclaimer Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation. Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Michael, Nick, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

In this episode, Jill Gunter and Zon join us to dive into US President Elect Trump's potential US crypto strategic reserve and what it means for US-launched tokens. We then shift gears to examine USDT0's launch with LayerZero, exploring how it could transform cross-chain liquidity and challenge USDC's dominance. We also unpack the complex dynamics between Base and Ink L2s, questioning whether interoperability between major exchange L2s makes sense. We wrap up with a critical look at Echo's success and the revival of ICO mechanisms. - - Follow Jill: https://x.com/jillrgunter Follow Zon: https://x.com/ItsAlwaysZonny Follow Mike: https://x.com/MikeIppolito_ Follow Expansion: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ExpansionPod Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/4bGKYYM Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3Vaubq1 Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ -- Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (02:08) US Crypto Strategic Reserve (15:26) Tether's USDT Zero (23:28) USDC vs USDT (30:22) Ink vs Base Interop (34:08) App Chains vs Gen Purpose (38:42) Do Bitcoiners Want L2s? (50:12) Solana's Market Share (54:29) Coinbase USDC Loans on BTC (59:58) Unwarranted Bankless Fire (01:03:57) Crypto's Funding Mechanisms - - Disclaimer Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation. Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Rex, Jon, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

In this episode, we dive deep into the future of Ethereum's infrastructure with Drew from CommitBoost. We unpack how CommitBoost aims to change Ethereum's block building process, potentially solving long-standing issues of censorship resistance and transaction efficiency. We unpack the concepts of inclusion lists and pre-confirmations, and how they could transform crypto. Thanks for tuning in! - - Follow Drew: https://x.com/drewvdw Follow Rex: https://x.com/LogarithmicRex Follow nosleepjon: https://x.com/nosleepjon Follow Expansion: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@expansionpod Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/4bGKYYM Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3Vaubq1 Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ -- Join us at Permissionless III Oct 9-11. Use code: EXPANSION10 for a 10% discount: https://blockworks.co/event/permissionless-iii -- Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (01:17) MEV Boost Overview (13:26) End Game of Ethereum Infra (16:57) Permissionless III Ad (18:29) Designing Public Goods in Ethereum (24:01) Designing Commitments (32:32) Inclusion List Implications (38:47) Credible Neutrality Implications (50:44) Opt In Requirements - - Disclaimer Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation. Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Rex, Jon, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

In this week's Expansion roundup, Jon and Rex dissect the pitfalls of crypto rebranding, centered on MakerDAO's controversial shift to Sky Network. They explore why such moves often backfire and what it means for project identity in the blockchain space. The conversation expands to cover Telegram's blockchain troubles, OpenSea's SEC Wells Notice, and the growing dominance of Celestia in data availability. They also debate Vitalik Buterin's comments on DeFi's role in crypto's future, tying it all back to the challenges of maintaining a clear vision and identity in crypto. Thanks for tuning in! - - Follow Rex: https://x.com/LogarithmicRex Follow nosleepjon: https://x.com/nosleepjon Follow Expansion: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@expansionpod Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/4bGKYYM Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3Vaubq1 Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ -- Join us at Permissionless III Oct 9-11. Use code: EXPANSION10 for a 10% discount: https://blockworks.co/event/permissionless-iii -- Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (01:37) Pavel Arrest & TON Chain Halt (07:56) OpenSea Wells Notice (17:40) Permissionles III Ad (19:11) MakerDAO's Rebrand (32:53) Celestia's DA Market Share High (41:10) EigenLayer DA (48:23) DeFi Isn't Crypto's Purpose (55:03) Threshold Network Merger - - Disclaimer Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation. Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Rex, Jon, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

In this week's roundup, the crew dives into AI’s impact on work, debates the realism of a post-work society, and unpacks the Hyperliquid vs. JellyJelly saga. They also explore the flood of new institutional stablecoin announcements, wins for privacy in crypto, and what stablecoins mean for L1 token value. Enjoy! – L2s and L3s are history. Supra Containers give you dedicated, customizable AppSpace on Supra’s Layer-1 to rescue you from the costs, complexities, and fragmentation of L2s and L3s.  Containers help you build with better customization and control than appchains at a fraction of the cost. Use your own token as the gas token, create local fee markets with custom gas amounts or just go gasless, and scale on demand whenever you need to. Supra Containers are secured by Supra’s L1 nodes and get access to Supra’s 500k TPS throughput, sub-second consensus latency, and all their built-in services like oracle price feeds and onchain randomness without any overhead. Supra is also MultiVM compatible so you can easily deploy your EVM, Move, and SVM smart contracts here. Get all the freedom, control, and tools you need to build super dApps and bring the world onchain. To learn more, visit www.supra.com/blockworks – Missed DAS? Join us from June 24th-June 26th at Permissionless IV! Use Code EXPANSION10 at checkout for 10% off! Tickets: https://blockworks.co/event/permissionless-iv - - Follow Jill: https://x.com/jillrgunter Follow Nick: https://x.com/nickwh8te Follow Uma: https://x.com/pumatheuma Follow Mike: https://x.com/MikeIppolito_ Follow Expansion: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://bit.ly/3QLwfTs Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/4bGKYYM Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3Vaubq1 Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ -- Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (02:11) The Post Work Society Debate (11:06) Supra Pre-Roll (11:32) Hyperliquid x JellyJelly Drama (28:11) Supra Mid-Roll (28:56) Privacy in Crypto (35:54) Institutional Stablecoin Announcements (50:16) Is Stablecoin Growth Bullish for L1s? - - Disclaimer Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation. Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Michael, Nick, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

In this week's roundup, we discuss current market sentiment, Ethereum interoperability, and L2 pain points. We also cover rollup design, token value accrual, and private vs public companies. Finally, we end the episode with discussion on reducing Celestia’s inflation, and the Ethereum tariff debate. Resources Solving Ethereum Interop: https://x.com/pumatheuma/status/1886483744053452851 -- Join us at DAS NYC 2025!  Use code EXPANSION10 for a 10% discount: https://blockworks.co/event/digital-asset-summit-2025-new-york - - Follow Jill: https://x.com/jillrgunter Follow Nick: https://x.com/nickwh8te Follow Uma: https://x.com/pumatheuma Follow Mike: https://x.com/MikeIppolito_ Follow Expansion: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ExpansionPod Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/4bGKYYM Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3Vaubq1 Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ -- Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (00:49) Market Sentiment (10:57) Ethereum Interop (26:38) L2 Pain Points (32:29) Rollup Designs & Token Value Accrual (45:50) Private vs Public Companies (54:55) Reducing Celestia's Inflation (01:04:06) The Ethereum Tariff Disclaimer Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation. Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Michael, Nick, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

In this week's roundup, we discuss crypto’s momentum shift, Ethereum DA, and Kaito’s token launch. We also unpacked the implications of centralized companies operating onchain. Finally, we ended the episode with discussion on the current state of bridging UX. Enjoy! Resources C-node’s Take: https://x.com/colludingnode/status/1891862449663463506 – L2s and L3s are history. Supra Containers give you dedicated, customizable AppSpace on Supra’s Layer-1 to rescue you from the costs, complexities, and fragmentation of L2s and L3s.  Containers help you build with better customization and control than appchains at a fraction of the cost. Use your own token as the gas token, create local fee markets with custom gas amounts or just go gasless, and scale on demand whenever you need to. Supra Containers are secured by Supra’s L1 nodes and get access to Supra’s 500k TPS throughput, sub-second consensus latency, and all their built-in services like oracle price feeds and onchain randomness without any overhead. Supra is also MultiVM compatible so you can easily deploy your EVM, Move, and SVM smart contracts here. Get all the freedom, control, and tools you need to build super dApps and bring the world onchain. To learn more, visit www.supra.com/blockworks – Ledger, the global leader in digital asset security, proudly sponsors Bell Curve! As Ledger celebrates 10 years of securing 20% of global crypto, it remains the top choice for securing your assets. Buy a LEDGER™ device now, and build confidently, knowing your BTC, ETH, SOL, and more are safe. Buy now on https://shop.ledger.com/?r=1da180a5de00. – Join us at DAS NYC 2025!  Use code EXPANSION10 for a 10% discount: https://blockworks.co/event/digital-asset-summit-2025-new-york - - Follow Jill: https://x.com/jillrgunter Follow Nick: https://x.com/nickwh8te Follow Uma: https://x.com/pumatheuma Follow Mike: https://x.com/MikeIppolito_ Follow Expansion: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ExpansionPod Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/4bGKYYM Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3Vaubq1 Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ -- Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (02:55) Feeling Optimistic On Crypto (10:30) Supra Pre-Roll (10:56) Ledger Pre-Roll (11:14) Crypto's Momentum Shift (18:43) Scaling Ethereum DA (35:36) Supra Mid-Roll (36:20) Ledger Mid-Roll (36:55) Kaito's Token Launch & Centralized Companies Onchain (50:57) Bridging UX & Interop - - Disclaimer Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation. Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Michael, Nick, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

In this episode, we dive deep into Uniswap's surprise Unichain announcement and its potential impact on DeFi. We also explore the emergence of Exchange OS and its promise of provable exchanges using ZK proofs. The conversation then shifts to the challenges of accurate metrics in crypto, particularly addressing inflated user numbers. We then discuss Binance's controversial pre-market trading feature and its implications for price discovery. Finally, we reflect on the current state of token distribution methods and potential alternatives to traditional airdrops. Thanks for tuning in! - - Follow Rex: https://x.com/LogarithmicRex Follow nosleepjon: https://x.com/nosleepjon Follow Expansion: https://x.com/ExpansionPod_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@expansionpod Subscribe on Apple: http://apple.co/4bGKYYM Subscribe on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/3Vaubq1 Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ -- Join us at Permissionless III Oct 9-11. Use code: EXPANSION10 for a 10% discount: https://blockworks.co/event/permissionless-iii -- Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (01:34) Modular in an Integrated Way (06:04) Uniswap's UniChain (24:08) Movement Open Testnet (29:22) Exchange OS (35:37) Binance Pre-Market Trading - - Disclaimer Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation. Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Rex, Jon, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.