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03 Sep 2020Episode 6: Behavioural Science - an introduction for Marketers Part 200:45:31

0.00 - 0.24:  An introduction to the podcast

0.28 - 32.26:  In the main section of the podcast we cover three more core Behavioural Science principles and applications. The time-stamps for each of those principles are:

  • 1.27: The Cocktail Party Effect
  • 12.40: Social Proof
  • 20.58: The Peak End Rule

32.27 - 37.23: A brief discussion about the ethics of deploying Behavioural Science techniques within marketing.

37.27 - 45.05: We share what we're loving this week - news, tools and resources that we have found useful or interesting and that listeners might too.

45.10 - 45.30: Outro.

External links referenced:

  • Most references made by Jen come from her book 'Choice Hacking'. CLICK HERE.
  • Paper on studies of transparency within recommendation engines. CLICK HERE.
  • Movable Ink. CLICK HERE.
  • 'The Ethics of Nudging' by Cass Sunstein. CLICK HERE.
  • Bob Hoffman blog on brand-building. CLICK HERE.
  • Facebook Vs Apple Forbes Article.  CLICK HERE.
  • The contentious YouTube video featuring the movie 'Contact'. CLICK HERE.

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07 Nov 2022Season 3 Episode 4 - Talking Marketing as an entrepreneur with Special Guest Lucy Kirby00:23:40

In this episode, we are joined by the wonderful Lucy Kirby. An entrepreneur with a background in marketing at both agencies and large clients, we discuss how the marketing lessons she has learned in those environments have translated into marketing with a small budget.

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22 Feb 2022Season 2 Episode 3 - Talking cookie-cutter agency solutions, implementing marketing technology and the impact of the pandemic with special guest Clint Bratton00:38:00

In this episode, we talk to Clint Bratton, Managing Director, Australia for Track Customer Marketing, which is part of the DDB Group. We discuss the lack of differentiation in agency offerings and solutions, the difficulties of implementing marketing technology without a strategy, and what impact the pandemic has had on his leadership style, amongst many other things.

There are fascinating insights into his view on the limitations of customer journey mapping, creating a personalised & human customer experience and supporting people through the pandemic with new policies.

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02 Oct 2020Episode 10 - The things that drive us crazy about marketing00:41:25

Episode Notes

0.00 - 0.24:  An introduction to the podcast.

0.28 - 37.18:  In the main section of the podcast we cover some of the stuff that drives us crazy about marketing - from pitches to crap experimentation to the obsession with the new.

37.22 - 40.52: We share what we're loving this week - news, tools and resources that we have found useful or interesting and that listeners might too. Rob talks about agencies not focusing on their own branding and Jen raises IKEA and Mother's fantastic Sleep campaign creative. 

40.57 - 41.24: Outro.

External links referenced:

  • Codefinery article on the problems of Pitching. CLICK HERE
  • The Drum article on broken pitch processes. CLICK HERE
  • Trinity P3 article on why everyone loses in pitches. CLICK HERE
  • Mark Ritson article on agency branding (Paywall). CLICK HERE
  • The Drum article on agency branding.  CLICK HERE
  • The Drum article on IKEA / Mother UKs sleep campaign. CLICK HERE

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25 Sep 2020Episode 9 - What is the point of loyalty programs? Part 200:38:51

Episode Notes

0.00 - 0.23:  An introduction to the podcast.

0.28 - 32.56:  In the main section of the podcast we cover what makes a great reward program and some of our favourites - from classic points programs like Sephora Beauty Insider and Hilton Honors to less traditional efforts from Amazon and lululemon.

33.00 - 38.20: We share what we're loving this week - news, tools and resources that we have found useful or interesting and that listeners might too. Rob talks about Bob Hoffman's eight principles of marketing and Jen raises Disney's creative SEO work. 

38.25 - 38.50: Outro.

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31 Oct 2023Season 4 Episode 1 - Talking data, insight and marketing tech with special guest Susan Rose00:42:04

Season 4 has arrived and we start with a cracking episode. We talk to Susan Rose who is an expert in customer-centric retail strategy and customer behavioural segmentation. She has worked in this field since joining Dunnhumby in 1991, where she was part of the team that developed and launched the highly acclaimed Tesco Clubcard loyalty programme.

Since then she has founded multiple businesses including retail analytics specialist 5one, Zinc, Keystone consulting and most recently Science of Shopping.

In short, she’s smart and experienced and definitely worth 40 minutes of your time to liste

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02 Apr 2024Season 4 Episode 6 - Talking Loyalty with Special Guest Professor Yuping Liu-Thompkins00:33:25

In this episode, we go back to school by talking to Professor of Marketing  Yuping Liu-Thompkins.  Not content with being a Professor at Old Dominion University in the US, she is also the Founder and Director of Loyalty Science Lab whose mission is to create and promote cutting-edge scientific research on brand and customer loyalty. 

We talk about what drives loyalty, the value of loyalty programs, what loyalty program features really make a difference and more.

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16 Oct 2020Episode 12 - Is age just a number in marketing?00:43:30

Episode Notes

0.00 - 0.21:  An introduction to the podcast.

0.24 - 36.57:  In the main section we talk about age in marketing. More specifically ageism in advertising agencies and the lazy, incorrect use of generational groups like Millennials as segments. 

37.00 - 43.00: We share what we're loving this week - news, tools and resources that we have found useful or interesting and that listeners might too. Rob talks about operational transparency in improving customer experience and Jen raises IKEA's new furniture buyback program.

43.04 - 43.28: Outro.

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28 Nov 2023Season 4 Episode 2 - Celebrating our 50th episode by talking CX, Behavioural Science and more with Jen Clinehens00:49:48

We made it to 50 episodes! Admittedly slowly but hey - we got there in the end. To celebrate this milestone Jen Clinehens returns to the podcast. The former co-host of the podcast for the first 30 or so episodes returns to talk CX, AI and Behavioural Science. 

We also cover building a business, Jen's entry in Marketing Room 101 and a discussion on Mark Ritson's view on US marketers. Which gets a little spicy.

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02 Mar 2022Season 2 Episode 4 - Talking creativity and freelancing with Special Guest Paul Trueman00:43:22

In this episode, we talk to Paul Trueman - Copywriter and communication consultant. We discuss two fascinating and topical areas - creativity and the life of a freelancer. If you've ever wanted to know how to write a great brief, the best way to feedback on creative or whether freelancing is for you, this podcast has you covered.

Paul takes us through pitch horror stories, whether Tone of Voice guidelines are actually useful, and the skills he has (or hasn't) developed going from agency life to fully freelance.

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17 Mar 2021Episode 27 - Talking marketing in the Art world with Special Guest Charlotte Stewart00:38:42

We talk to Charlotte Stewart, a Marketing Consultant who has worked in the art world for over a decade. We talk through the challenge of marketing in such a unique industry - one built on the scarcity of supply and taste. 

From working at Christie's to starting her own consultancy working within the secondary art market and newer peer to peer selling platforms,  Charlotte has some fascinating insights for all marketers.

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13 Aug 2020Episode 1: You are not your customer00:21:18

0.00 - 2.18:  An introduction into the podcast, us and  our credentials - what have we done and why are we qualified to have opinions.

2.19 - 4.05:  A discussion on who this podcast is aimed at.

4.06 - 18.58: The meat of the podcast where we discuss the delusions of grandeur marketers have about the importance of their brand, how different marketers are to rest of society, how dangerous it is to assume you're like everyone else and the concept of Market Orientation.

18.59 -  21.18: We share what we're loving this week - tools and resources that we have found useful and that listeners might too.

External links referenced:

  • Thinkbox survey of variances between customers and the marketing/advertising industry. CLICK HERE
  • 'The Long and Short of it' by Les Binet and Peter Field. CLICK HERE.
  • 'Effectiveness in Context: A Manual for Brand-Building’ by Les Binet and Peter Field. CLICK HERE.
  • 'Be less Zombie' by Elvin Turner. CLICK HERE.
  • Our website at everybodyhatesyourbrand.com. CLICK HERE.

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27 Nov 2020Episode 18 - What makes Netflix great?00:30:11

Episode Notes

0.00 - 0.20: An introduction to the podcast.

0.24 - 24.02: In the main section, we investigate the Marketing and CX ideas that make Netflix so successful. We discuss the different behavioural and data science techniques that create such a frictionless experience. 

29.45 - 33.51: We share what we're loving this week - news, tools and resources that we have found useful or interesting and that listeners might too. Rob talks about another Mark Ritson video and Jen talks about the Sherwin Williams TikTok controversy.

29.47 - 30.08: Outro.

External links referenced:

  • Jen's article on the psychology of Netflix which features many articles and resources discussed in the podcast. CLICK HERE
  • David Chong article from 'Towards Data Science'. CLICK HERE
  • Springboard India article with additional content. CLICK HERE
  • The Mark Ritson '17 slides marketers should know about TV' video. CLICK HERE
  • Sherwin Williams TikTok controversy article. CLICK HERE

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27 Apr 2021Episode 29 - Talking Market Research, Behavioural Science and Neuroscience with Special Guest Chris Bland00:31:55

In this episode, we chat to Chris Bland, Director at Walnut Unlimited, who describe themselves as "the  human understanding  agency". 

We cover the role of market research and its evolution created by adding in new disciplines like behavioural and neuroscience and some of the tools and techniques that those things entail. We cover quant, qual, NPS and more.

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30 Mar 2021Episode 28 - Talking Loyalty programs, Block Chain and running businesses with Special Guest Phil Shelper00:35:46

In this episode, we talk to the CEO of Loyalty & Reward Co (Australia's leading loyalty consulting agency) and author of 'Loyalty Programs: The Complete guide', Phil Shelper. We cover off topics like the value of loyalty programs, their future (including Blockchain) and the ups and down's of running your own business. 

We also bring back the "What we're loving this week" section. Rob talks about the book "How not to plan - 66 ways to screw it up" and Jen brings up Havas CX's X-Index - a way of measuring the impact of customer experience and how different companies compare.

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18 Sep 2020Episode 8 - What is the point of loyalty programs? Part 100:41:20

0.00 - 0.23:  An introduction to the podcast.

0.27 - 30.52:  In the main section of the podcast we cover what we believe is the definition of loyalty, what role loyalty programs can play and a model for the value you can extract from them.

30.54 - 40.49: We share what we're loving this week - news, tools and resources that we have found useful or interesting and that listeners might too. Rob talks about interruptive in-stream ads on Twitch and Jen talks about Peloton. Again.

40.53 - 41.19: Outro.

External links referenced:

  • Forbes magazine article on Airline Loyalty programs. CLICK HERE
  • Rob's article on Amazon Prime. CLICK HERE
  • Rob's article outlining the Loyalty programme effects model. CLICK HERE
  • Jen's article on Peloton. CLICK HERE
  • Kotaku article on mid-stream Twitch advertising. CLICK HERE

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30 Oct 2020Episode 14 - Talking Marketing technology (with Special Guest Lucy Acheson)00:38:38

Episode Notes

0.00 - 0.21: An introduction to the podcast.

0.23 - 33.30: In the main section we talk to Customer Experience Director at Merkle Australia, Lucy Acheson. We discuss why brands struggle to get the most out of marketing tech investments, who is able to do that well and what role does AI play now and in the future?

33.34 - 38.09: We share what we're loving this week - news, tools and resources that we have found useful or interesting and that listeners might too. Rob talks about an Xbox Series X promotional stunt and Jen talks about a racy little campaign.....

38.14 - 38.37: Outro.

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25 Apr 2023Season 3 Episode 10 - Talking starting, growing and selling marketing agencies with Special Guest Craig Wheeler00:37:07

In this episode, I talk to the Managing Director and Co-Founder of the marketing agency WDMP Craig Wheeler. We talk about how he started his agency, how they figured out the strategic direction over the years, the pitfalls of the pitch process and more. 

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09 Mar 2023Season 3 Episode 8 - Talking CX, CRM and customer expectations with Special Guest Lucy Halley00:26:25

We're back in the world of interviews with a bang. Customer Experience (CX) has been a big focus for clients and agencies alike over the last few years. Luckily, we have an expert in the shape of Lucy Halley - the Executive Head of Strategy at agency Havas CX Helia - to guide us through it in this episode.

We cover what CX is, the role customer's expectations play in the perception of CX, the blockers to great CX and Lucy's marketing pet hate that she wants to be put into the EHYB Room 101.

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06 Nov 2020Episode 15 - What makes IKEA great?00:39:24

Episode Notes

0.00 - 0.19: An introduction to the podcast.

0.22 - 32.44: In the main section, we launch a new series where we investigate some of the marketing and customer experience elements that make brands great. This week's case study for review is IKEA. 

32.47 - 38.58: We share what we're loving this week - news, tools and resources that we have found useful or interesting and that listeners might too. Rob talks about a Forbe's article talking about Marketer's FOMO & FOFO and Jen talks about her new Choice Hacking website and program.

39.05 - 39.25: Outro.

External links referenced:

  • Rick Beato's 'What makes this song great?' series. CLICK HERE
  • Jen's article on the psychology of IKEA which features many articles and resources discussed in the podcast. CLICK HERE
  • Marketing Week article on IKEA's relationship with Mother. CLICK HERE
  • IKEA's 'Tomorrow starts tonight' campaign. CLICK HERE
  • CNBC article on the Psychology of IKEA. CLICK HERE
  • Semihandmade website. CLICK HERE
  • FOMO & FOFO article. CLICK HERE
  • Jen's new Choice Hacking website. CLICK HERE

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13 Nov 2020Episode 16 - Talking agency life, consulting & start ups (with special guest Simone Blakers)00:42:36

Episode Notes

0.00 - 0.23: An introduction to the podcast.

0.25 - 36.51: In the main section, we talk to a very special guest - CX Consultant, Agency leader and startup entrepreneur  Simone Blakers. We discuss the role of marketing agencies now and in the future, going it alone as a CX consultant, and the travails of launching a startup.

36.55 - 42.10: We share what we're loving this week - news, tools and resources that we have found useful or interesting and that listeners might too. Rob talks about the pitfalls of personalisation and Jen covers the True Name initiative by Citi Bank.

42.14 - 42.40: Outro.

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04 Mar 2025Season 5 Episode 2 - Talking creative work, the art of copywriting and Neurodivergence with Special Guest Natalie Howells00:51:02

In this new episode, we talk to Natalie Howells - a copywriter, author, and all-round creative person. We cover two topics that are close to her heart.

Firstly, how to get the most out of your creative teams, the crucial role of briefing and what impact AI is having and will have on the creative process.

Secondly as the author of "Yeah, but how though? - Personal development for the Neurodivergent" we talk to her about the day-to-day challenges of being Neurodivergent in the workplace, the catalyst for her book and how to meet those challenges.

External resources:

  • Natalie's Book "Yeah, but how though? - Personal development for the Neurodivergent" - CLICK HERE
  • Natalie's Website - CLICK HERE

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23 Mar 2022Season 2 Episode 5 - What is in your Marketing Room 101?00:18:55

In this episode, we create the EHYB Room 101. A place for all things awful, infuriating and tedious about marketing to be sent to for all eternity. Join us as we work through the first four entrants and ask you to provide us with your own.

If you want to get in touch to suggest your own suggested entrants you can find us on Twitter and LinkedIn. Maybe you'll get them sent away for all eternity!

The podcast also sees another new feature where I recommend marketing tools, content or people that I have found useful or illuminating. For this inaugural episode, I recommend Bob Hoffman and his wonderfully cantankerous content. 

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09 Oct 2020Episode 11 - Talking data in marketing (with a special guest)00:41:34

Episode Notes

0.00 - 0.25:  An introduction to the podcast.

0.29 - 33.25:  In the main section we talk to Mark Razzell, Director of Data and Insight at Clemenger BBDO Melbourne. With him we discuss the dos and don'ts of experimental design, interpreting data and working with analysts.

33.28 - 40.55: We share what we're loving this week - news, tools and resources that we have found useful or interesting and that listeners might too. Rob talks about a mini-ruck between Professor Byron Sharp and David Jones and Jen raises Fleetwood Mac and Ocean Spray's social moment.

40.59 - 41.33: Outro.

External links referenced:

  • The Dunning-Kruger effect. CLICK HERE
  • IPSO-MORI article on the myth of the millennial. CLICK HERE
  • The Campaign article on David Jones and Professor Byron Sharp. CLICK HERE
  • The Fleetwood Mac / Ocean Spray story. CLICK HERE

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24 Feb 2021Episode 26 - Fortnite: A marketing case study00:41:20

In this episode, we discuss what is probably the most famous video game of the last 4 - 5 years: Fortnite. Using the Four P's framework we break down what Fortnite did right and how it has become a marketing channel in its own right attracting monster brands like Marvel, Star Wars and more. 

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09 Feb 2021Episode 25 - Talking streaming, content creation and marketing with Special Guest Ross Thompson.00:43:19

In this episode, we delve further into the world of video games and marketing by interviewing Ross Thompson AKA TommyT999 - a content creator with 687,000 subscribers on YouTube. We talk about his career as a content creator, how he works with brands and how they can use streaming in their marketing mix.

From how he got started, the vagaries of the YouTube algorithm, creativity vs commerce, and the future of his channel, this interview provides lessons for anyone thinking of becoming a content creator or indeed working with them within a marketing plan.

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09 Feb 2022Season 2 Episode 2 - Talking digital advertising, privacy and identity with special guest Dan Richardson00:27:43

In this episode, we talk to Dan Richardson, Yahoo's Head of Data for Australia and New Zealand. He's also an educator and co-chair of the IAB Australia Data council. We discuss how to navigate the choppy, opaque waters of digital advertising, privacy and identity.

We cover topics like where an advertiser's money goes, key areas of education marketer's need in order to understand this ecosystem, the role of agencies in helping their clients, and where the future of digital advertising lies. 

External links referenced:

  • IAB Australia's ID Explainer & Handbook, designed to help buyers and sellers prepare for the deprecation of third-party cookies. CLICK HERE

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12 Jan 2021Episode 22 - Talking marketing, AI and startup culture with Special guest Mark Bainbridge00:38:08

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In the first episode of 2021, we sit down with Mark Bainbridge, Co-founder of Dragonfly AI. Dragonfly is a suite of visual AI products that uses cutting edge neuroscience to accurately predict how the design of any content or experience influences what your audience sees first, across any channel.

We discuss launching and marketing a start-up, cultural differences when working in a start-up versus an established brand, and whether AI as a term is a help or hindrance when selling in a new product.

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08 Jan 2024Season 4 Episode 3 - Why targeting Gen-Z is really lazy marketing00:12:52

In this first episode of 2024, we discuss why targeting Gen-Z is really Lazy marketing and why marketers should stop doing it.

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11 Sep 2020Episode 7: The Customer-centric sacrifice00:38:16

0.00 - 0.26:  An introduction to the podcast.

0.29 - 31.52:  In the main section of the podcast we cover what we believe is the true definition of customer centricity, what sacrifices that entails and some examples of brands we believe can be described as customer-centric.

31.55 - 37.47: We share what we're loving this week - news, tools and resources that we have found useful or interesting and that listeners might too. Rob talks the marketing of new video games consoles and Jen talks about Peloton.

37.53 - 38.17: Outro.

External links referenced:

  • Forbes Top 100 most customer-centric companies. CLICK HERE
  • 'The Customer-centric sacrifice' by Rob Voase. CLICK HERE
  • Gravity payments $70k per year annual salary. CLICK HERE
  • 'Let My People Go Surfing (Including 10 More Years of Business Unusual)' by Yvon Chouinard. CLICK HERE
  • Eurogamer article on the Xbox Series. CLICK HERE
  • Eurogamer article on the PlayStation 5. CLICK HERE

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20 Nov 2020Episode 17 - What makes Peloton great?00:34:20

Episode Notes

0.00 - 0.21: An introduction to the podcast.

0.24 - 31.00: In the main section, we investigate the Marketing and CX ideas that make Peloton so successful. We'll discuss the different behavioural science techniques that create an almost religious devotion to the brand. 

31.03 - 33.51: We share what we're loving this week - news, tools and resources that we have found useful or interesting and that listeners might too. Rob talks about a PlayStation 5's London underground take over, Jen talks about brands taking advantage of Twitter's disputed claim notices and Mali the dog makes a cameo!

33.53 - 34.19: Outro.

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  • Jen's article on the psychology of Peloton which features many articles and resources discussed in the podcast. CLICK HERE
  • The terrible Peloton ad. CLICK HERE
  • The psychology of leaderboards. CLICK HERE
  • Techcrunch article on Peloton. CLICK HERE
  • PlayStation 5 London underground activation. CLICK HERE
  • Brands having fun with disputed claim notices on Twitter. CLICK HERE

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21 Jan 2025Season 5 Episode 1 - Talking Loyalty, CRM and AI with Special Guest Tom Phillips00:40:14

We've been away for a while but we're back with Season 5 of Everybody hates your brand.

We talk to Tom Phillips. Tom has spent over 20 years in Strategy, working in some of the UK’s best marketing agencies with a focus on loyalty, CRM, and digital – so a man after my own heart. 

He’s worked on brands like BP, Virgin, Costa Coffee, Nespresso, Halfords and Hotel Chocolat and shares that expertise in this season premiere. 

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04 Dec 2020Episode 19 - The pros and cons of working abroad00:43:48

Episode Notes

0.00 - 0.21: An introduction to the podcast.

0.25 - 42.33: In the main section, we discuss the pros and cons of working abroad. From culture to visas to relocation we talk about it all in preparation for a post-COVID 19 world. 

42.37 - 43.47: We share what we're loving this week - news, tools and resources that we have found useful or interesting and that listeners might too. Rob talks about Mark Ritson's 10th Anniversary celebrations at Marketing Week. 

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  • Mark Ritson's 10th-anniversary articles. CLICK HERE

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07 Feb 2023Season 3 Episode 7 - Don't forget to destroy00:11:03

In this episode, we talk about why marketers shouldn’t be afraid to cut their losses, the 'Rob Recommends' feature covers Mark Ritson's latest article and you get the chance to see my face on a webinar. Perish the thought. 

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20 Sep 2022Season 3 Episode 2 - What AC/DC can teach us about building a brand00:16:31

Today’s podcast is a hard-rockin' one where I talk about what AC/DC can teach us about building a brand.

You might not think Marketing Professor Byron Sharp and Hard Rock legends AC/DC have much in common. But it turns out they have a similar view as to how to build a brand - whether they know it or not…

In this episode, we give valuable lessons on brand growth using AC/DC and their massive success as a great example of the lessons Byron Sharp detailed in his seminal book "How brands grow".

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  • How Brands grow by Professor Byron Sharp CLICK HERE

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13 Feb 2024Season 4 Episode 4 - What makes the Rapha Cycling Club a great loyalty program?00:14:54

In this episode we look into what makes the Rapha Cycling Club a great loyalty program. We cover the psychology behind its structure, the community it has built, and how it is helping build their brand. 

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31 May 2023Season 3 Episode 11 - Shining the harsh light of the scientific method on the world of advertising and marketing agencies with Special Guest Mark Razzell00:40:32

We have our first returning guest to the show.

Mark Razzell was our first-ever guest in Episode 11 back in October 2020 when he was Director of Data and Insight at Clemenger BBDO in Melbourne, Australia.

And we’ve got him back because he has just launched a new venture called Critical Truth which is designed to shine the harsh light of the scientific method on the world of advertising and marketing agencies.

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11 Apr 2023Season 3 Episode 9 - Talking data, experimental design, and analytics with Special Guest Mallika Kelkar00:38:41

In this episode, we talk to Mallika Kelkar, CRM and CX Senior Data Director at global marketing agency Iris Worldwide. We cover the tricky and sometimes seemingly impenetrable world of data analytics within Marketing. We take a journey through Experimental design, how to work with analysts and data scientists and the value, or otherwise of a dashboard.

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25 May 2021Episode 31 - Talking about barriers to great thinking and performance with Special Guest Fiona Craig00:45:18

In the episode, we talk to marketing veteran turned executive coach Fiona Craig about the barriers to great thinking and performance, some tools for removing those barriers, and the impact of the pandemic and hybrid working on a team's performance.

From things such as psychological safety to something called radical candour, Fiona gives listeners some solid, practical tools to improve the team's ability to think effectively.

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20 Aug 2020Episode 4: Six of our favourite marketing books00:39:14

0.00 - 0.27:  An introduction to the podcast

0.28 - 35.00:  In the main section of the podcast we cover six books we love and why. Time-stamps for the start of each book discussion (and links to buy those books if you're interested) are:

  • 1.12: 'The Halo Effect' by Phil Rosenzweig. CLICK HERE.
  • 6.15: 'The Long and Short of it' by Les Binet & Peter Field. CLICK HERE.
  • 14.31: 'Hooked' by Nir Eyal. CLICK HERE.
  • 17.33: 'Inside the Nudge Unit' by David Halpern. CLICK HERE.
  • 26.43: 'Nudge' by Richard Thaler and Cass Sunstein. CLICK HERE.
  • 26.43: 'Thinking, Fast and Slow' by Daniel Kahnemann. CLICK HERE.

35.03 - 38.40: We share what we're loving this week - tools and resources that we have found useful and that listeners might too.

38.45 - 39.01: Outro

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11 Dec 2020Episode 20 - Talking Print and Purpose (with special guest Richard Boon)00:39:46

Episode Notes

0.00 - 0.22: The introduction to the podcast.

0.27 - 38.01: In the main section, we spend time talking to Richard Boon, Managing Director of Webmart - a print management and marketing agency with a strong sense of ethics and environmentalism that runs through their operation.

38.06 - 39.45: Outro.

External links referenced:

  • Webmart's web page featuring their charity game. CLICK HERE
  • Forbes article featuring Webmart. CLICK HERE
  • Guardian article on IKEA catalogue discontinuation. CLICK HERE
  • Guardian article on Argos catalogue discontinuation. CLICK HERE
  • Guardian article on the resurgence of printed catalogues. CLICK HERE
  • JICMAIL's website. CLICK HERE
  • The CEO of Webmart's Marxist Capitalism TEDx talk. CLICK HERE

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31 Dec 2022Season 3 Episode 6 - Marketing Room 101 Part 200:10:24

In this episode, we make some new additions to the "Everybody hates your brand' Marketing Room 101 podcast. Marketing purgatory is starting to get full......

If you want to get in touch to suggest your own proposed entrants you can find us on Twitter and LinkedIn. Maybe you'll get them sent away for all eternity!

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  • Rob's Twitter account for Room 101 ideas. CLICK HERE
  • Rob's Linkedin profile for Room 101 ideas. CLICK HERE

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01 May 2024Season 4 Episode 7 - Talking AI and its impact on Marketing with Special Guest Simone Blakers00:38:56

In this episode we dive into the fascinating and slightly terrifying world of AI with special guest Simone Blakers.

AI. You can’t move in marketing circles (or any business circles really) without someone mentioning AI and how it will help, hinder and/or take over everyones jobs. It’s a scary time for a lot of people but it also seems to be a big opportunity too.

Today we are talking about all of that with Simone Blakers of LiquidCX out of Australia. A former agency leader she now focuses her time on helping organisations understand and navigate the impact of the various types of AI for their people, their brand and their CX.

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27 Aug 2020Episode 5: Behavioural Science - an introduction for Marketers Part 100:42:43

0.00 - 0.25:  An introduction to the podcast

0.29 - 36.24:  In the main section of the podcast we cover what Behavioural Science is, why it is important to marketers and a discussion on three core principles and applications. The time-stamps for each of those principles are:

  • 10.46: Choice Overload
  • 20.30: Confirmation Bias
  • 29.25: The Goal Gradient Effect

36.27 - 42.52: We share what we're loving this week - news, tools and resources that we have found useful or interesting and that listeners might too.

41.56 - 42.41: Outro

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13 Aug 2020Episode 2: Agency or Client-side - Which one should you choose?00:39:41

0.00 - 0.23: Introduction of us and the topic at hand

0.26 - 31.31:  A discussion on the pros and cons of working on both sides of the fence including a discussion on control of decision-making, the freedom from minutiae, the pain of pitching and timesheets, and a discussion on what you should do. 

31.32 - 37.51: What is the transition like between either side and what do you need to make it a success?

37.52 - 39.41: We share what we're loving this week - tools and resources that we have found useful and that listeners might too.

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13 Aug 2020Episode 3: Specialist or Generalist - What should you be?00:42:38

0.00 - 0.24:  An introduction to the podcast

0.26 - 39.32:  In the meat of the podcast we cover an interesting topic for young and experienced marketers alike - what are the pros and cons of specialising versus being a generalist?

We cover areas such as whether being a specialist suits your personality, the benefits of singular focus, staying relevant and what route is best if you have designs on the top marketing jobs.

39.35 - 42.37: We share what we're loving this week - tools and resources that we have found useful and that listeners might too.

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27 Feb 2024Season 4 Episode 5 - Talking Email Marketing and CRM with Special Guest Chad S White00:48:25

In this episode, we talk to Chad S White. Chad is Head of Research at the Oracle Digital Experience Agency,  Author of "Email Marketing Rules”, and contributor at marketing profs, CMSWire and Contributor. Basically, he is the voice of authority on email today.

You can hear us chat about Email personalisation, the role of channels, testing strategies and what he would choose to put in our marketing room 101. 

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11 May 2021Episode 30 - Talking Facebook, agency leadership and diversity with Special guest Liz Roche00:37:10

In this episode, we talk to the General Manager and Chief Strategy Officer of Havas CX Helia North America, Liz Roche. We cover changes in the agency model, under-utilisation of market technology, how to make the most of Facebook and diversity with marketing agencies.

And it really is 'We' this time - we managed to get our technical issues sorted out so both Jen and I appear. Which is nice.

External links referenced:

  • 'How to Be an Antiracist' by Ibram X. Kendi CLICK HERE
  • Havas CX Helia North America's website CLICK HERE

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15 Jun 2021Episode 32 - Talking the current state of marketing agencies, diversity and working abroad with Special Guest Nicole Taylor00:36:44

In this one, we talk to Nicole Taylor, CEO of Catorce (14) in Barcelona and former CEO of DDB Sydney and McCann WorldGroup Australia. We cover whether agencies have lost their distinctiveness, the efforts in creating diversity in which she has found success and the positives of working in another country. 

From her early life in Cessnock in the Hunter Valley to her current life in Barcelona, there are lessons and opinions throughout that could prove valuable to anyone in the marketing or agency world.  

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20 Oct 2022Season 3 Episode 3 - What Amazon Prime can teach us about loyalty00:14:35

In this episode we discuss why Amazon Prime works as a loyalty program and whether a similar program could work for your brand or clients. 

We also bring back 'Rob Recommends' where we cover two articles that focus on the role of pricing promotions and the dangers of relying on them too heavily. 

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02 Feb 2022Season 2 Episode 1 - Four things marketing agencies don’t know about their clients00:18:56

It's back! After too long 'Everybody hates your brand.' has returned. The Season 2 premiere is here and this one is about shedding light on the challenges of working client-side that marketing agencies don't know. 

From spending a tiny amount of time actually marketing to dealing with insane short term pressures, client-side marketing is a very different world to agency-life with unique challenges. This episode hopes to enable empathy within the agency/client relationship and in turn strengthen it. 

We also talk about the future plans for the podcast.

External links referenced:

  • Rob's Twitter account for podcast ideas. CLICK HERE

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18 Dec 2020Episode 21 - What makes Starbucks great?00:33:35

Episode Notes

0.00 - 0.20: An introduction to the podcast.

0.24 - 24.02: In the main section, we investigate the Marketing and CX ideas that help make Starbucks so successful. We discuss behavioural science, reward programs, culture and more.

29.47 - 33.34: Outro.

External links referenced:

  • Jen's article on the psychology of Starbucks which features many articles and resources discussed in the podcast. CLICK HERE
  • 'Why Starbucks failed in Australia' by Leo Saini. CLICK HERE
  • 'How important is Starbuck's loyalty program? on the Motley Fool. CLICK HERE 
  • A summary of Robert Cialdini's 'Influence' book. CLICK HERE

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01 Feb 2021Episode 24 - Talking independent agencies, COVID and the future with Special Guest James Ray00:36:47

Rob sits down with James Ray, CEO and Co-owner of Armadillo - a CRM agency based in Bristol in the Southwest of the UK with major global clients including Disney, McDonald's and Carnival Cruises. They discuss life as an independent agency, peer into the future of agencies and the impact of COVID on Armadillo.

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19 Jan 2021Episode 23 - Talking marketing in the video games industry with Special Guest Eric Folliot00:39:25

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In this episode, Rob sits down with Eric Folliot, European Marketing Director for Square Enix - publishers of the Final Fantasy, Tomb Raider and Marvel's Avengers franchises to name a few. We discuss changes in the video games industry that are having seismic effects for marketing both within and outside of the industry.

From the emergence of games as a service, the rise of video game streamers, the growth of eSports and the introduction of new distribution and payment models like Xbox Game Pass and PlayStation Now, the video games industry is changing and presenting fascinating marketing opportunities for brands willing to get on board.

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28 Nov 2022Season 3 Episode 5 - How golf brands convince golfers to buy the same gear year after year00:17:46

In this episode, we talk about the marketing tactics that golf brands use in order to convince golfers to spend huge amounts of money to buy essentially the same equipment year after year. We cover three core tactics including some interesting Behavioural Science that you could apply to your own marketing tactics.

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07 Sep 2022Season 3 Episode 1 - Talking Marketing recruitment With Zoe Edwards, Principal Recruitment Consultant for The Industry club00:31:41

Season 3 of 'Everybody hates your brand' kicks off in style. We chat with Zoe Edwards -  Principal Recruitment Consultant for The Industry Club. 

She specialises in Planning/Strategy, Senior Account management and Agency management hires in Creative agencies. Prior to that, she spent fifteen-plus years working in large creative agencies as a Business Director. 

She gets agencies basically.

We talk about some fascinating and timely topics including:

  • where the power lies within the current UK job market
  • whether Great Resignation is real or media hype
  • what marketing agencies are doing to retain talent
  • the future of working from home
  • promoting diversity within agencies.

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23 Oct 2020Episode 13 - What's the purpose of brand purpose?00:44:13

Episode Notes

0.00 - 0.20:  An introduction to the podcast.

0.22 - 38.47:  In the main section we talk about the concept of brand purpose. What is it, why are so many people talking about it and do you need to care?

38.51 - 43.45: We share what we're loving this week - news, tools and resources that we have found useful or interesting and that listeners might too. Rob talks about the usefulness of Share of Search as a metric and Jen raises the US Postal Service's creed.

43.49 - 44.12: Outro.

Oh and the "You can't talk your way into a problem you behaved your way into" is from Stephen Covey. 

External links referenced:

  • The Stengel 50 CLICK HERE
  • Simon Sinek's TED Talk CLICK HERE
  • Richard Shotten's dissection of The Stengel 50 CLICK HERE
  • Mark Ritson's Marketing Week article on marketers being ashamed of making money CLICK HERE
  • Mark Ritson's Marketing Week article on Brand Purpose and financial sacrifice CLICK HERE
  • 'The Halo Effect' by Phil Rosenzweig CLICK HERE
  • Vita Coco podcast CLICK HERE
  • Share of search video by Les Binet CLICK HERE
  • USPS  / Ogilvy Chicago / Stand by your mail campaign CLICK HERE

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