Dramas Over Flowers (Saya, Anisa, and Paroma)

We are joined by kfangurl on an ultimate fan trip episode where we deep dive into a cult classic time slip romance that set new standards in storytelling for all of us. This drama has also been recently remade into the Korean, A Time Called You, which we discussed in episode 161.

Tell us your thoughts about either drama in a voice note here: <Recording Page>

LINKS MENTIONED:

Paroma's twitter post on face blurring <link>

the fangirl verdict blog <link>

TIMESTAMP:

00:01:52 - Introducing Someday or One Day: plot, characters and cast

00:15:11 - How is Someday or One Day quintessentially Taiwanese?

00:31:09 - How did you feel towards Yunru?

00:44:25 - Were Yu Xuan and Zi Wei too happy/too perfect?

00:49:50 - Would you change any plot points?

01:01:45 - The 2022 film

01:11:34 - The drama's ending

01:21:57 - Speculating on the K-drama remake, A Time Called You

MORE EPISODES YOU'LL LIKE:

Episode 161: A Time Called You

Episode 96: Kfangurl interview

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In Part 2 of our discussion on K-drama screenwriting, we talk about Kim Eun-sook, whether great acting can rescue a bad script, why dramaland has so many serial killers, and much more!

Listen to Part 1 HERE.

We recorded this episode during a livestream discussion in 2022. If you here us speaking about comments, it's from the attendees of the stream. In Part 2, you can hear some of their voices in the final segment of the show as they jump in to give their own takes on drama writing.

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This episode was edited by Paroma

Dramas Over Flowers is part of the Frolic Podcast Network.

Welcome, welcome, we are back to our regularly scheduled programming now that we've gotten over our plague of technical hiccups!

A small note: since recording, the last drama we mention as upcoming in July 2021, POLICE UNIVERSITY, has been postponed to August. (Saya is disappointed.)

TIMESTAMPS

News:

00:01:50 Park Seo-joon in The Marvels?

Upcoming Dramas:

00:11:19 Devil Judge

00:19:51 You Are My Spring

00:24:39 Witch's Diner

00:32:23 Police University

Leave us your thoughts under our show notes here!

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This episode was edited by Saya.

Squid Game really took over the world, huh? We talk the whys and wherefores of it becoming the biggest show ever in next week's What's Up in Dramaland, but for now, have Saya and Anisa's spoilery thoughts on Episodes 1-3. Let us know what you thought of this bonkers, brilliant setup to the deadly game.

Other Episodes We Think You'll Like:

Episode 105 - where we first hear about Squid Game and speculate on what it might be like

Episode 54 - where we review the Korean movie, Parasite

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Saya and Anisa discuss the devastating developments and twisty turns in Episodes 4-6 of Squid Game, which is slowly killing us even as we can't stop watching. We discuss the show's brilliant takedown of neoliberal capitalism, how it implicates even the viewer, and what it has in common with Vincenzo (links to our Long Yaks about Vincenzo below). It's so metaphorical.

Other Episodes We Think You'll Like:

Episode 94 - Anisa and Paroma give their first impressions of Vincenzo

Episode 99 - Anisa and Paroma's final thoughts on Vincenzo, and its complex ideas about redemption and heroism

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Anisa and Paroma discuss their final thoughts on recently ended romcoms Love Next Door, No Gain No Love and Serendipity's Embrace, plus some first impressions of the Korean adaptation of Go Ahead and wacky romance DNA Lover.

LEAVE A COMMENT HERE.

LINKS MENTIONED:

Family by Choice Episodes 1-2 Review

Paroma fights Anisa(?) about Love Next Door

TIMESTAMPS:

00:10:38 Family by Choice

00:21:30 Love Next Door

00:35:19 No Gain No Love

01:15:35 DNA Lover

01:31:58 Serendipity's Embrace

01:48:59 Culinary Class Wars

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Apple podcasts | Spotify | Audible!

MORE EPISODES YOU MIGHT LIKE:

Episode 178: No Gain No Love (spoiler first half review)

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This episode was edited by Anisa. Music is Welcome Vault Dweller (Instrumental Version) by Victor Lundberg.

The 5th Annual Goguma Awards have landed! Your votes have been tallied and the results range from unexpected to unsurprising, all of which we dissect with glee. Get your tea and biscuits, it's long!

Leave us your thoughts in a voice note here: <Recording Page>

LINKS MENTIONED:

Actor Jin: The Handsome Hotelier

TIMESTAMP:

00:00:00 - Introducing the Goguma Awards

00:02:46 - The Classic Gogumas

00:17:47 - Your Top 3 Dramas of 2023

00:25:27 - The Wild Gogumas

01:11:15 - Create Your Own: Listener Awards!

01:49:36 - Patreon Roll Call of Love and Appreciation 💗

01:55:08 - Love note to all our listeners 💕

02:00:46 - Predictions for 2024

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MORE EPISODES YOU'LL LIKE:

Episode 167: 2023 in Dramaland: Year-End Yak Part 1 (Trends + Our Year in Dramas)

Episode 160: Six Years Of Podcasting About K-dramas! Opening your mailbag ✨

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Music: "Carry You Home" by Duplex Heart

We are back with a long yak after a very long while. Settle in as we discuss two new romances and one completed romcom with a side serving of murder!

Tell us your thoughts in a voice note here: <Recording Page>

LINKS MENTIONED:

Paroma's video about kdramas badly solving classism [here]

Jun-ho and Yoon-ah's 'Senorita' at MBC's music festival [here]

TIMESTAMP:

00:00:38 - King The Land (first 6 episode overview)

00:34:21 - See You In My 19th Life (first 7 episode overview)

00:52:45 - Crash Course In Romance (complete drama spoiler discussion)

01:32:58 - While You Were Sleeping (briefly convincing Anisa to watch it)

MORE EPISODES YOU'LL LIKE:

Episode 156: Doctor Cha

Episode 153: Crash Landing On You

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Understanding deeply that nobody wants a brutal analysis of this candyfloss, I have stuck to talking about two things that I found really interesting:

(ONE) how the drama tries to equate the female lead's wariness of men to the male lead's shallow beliefs and hostile reactions to women... and then undermines its own thesis

(TWO) how the male leads in romantic k-dramas go through an emotional journey, whereas the female leads go through social ones

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MORE EPISODES YOU'LL LIKE:

Episode 144: Year-end Yak (Part 1)

Episode 145: The Interest of Love

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Here's another foray into the wilds of Dramaland on the back of our yak - specifically a "shigan yohaeng" (time travel) into Seo In-guk's filmography, from his recent film, Pipeline, all the way back to the impression he made as Yoon Yoon-jae in Reply 1997 (aka Answer Me 1997)...and even further back than that. What was your first Seo In-guk? We'd love to know!

LINKS

Saya's 2016 end-of-year review of Police Unit 38 (scroll down): (Saya has reread it, and is crying at the mauling, so much mauling.)

Saya and Paroma's recaps of Police Unit 38, full of intense commentary (also mauled, sigh):

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In this Wild Yak, Anisa and Paroma talk to Tina, our friend and an aficionado of Korean web dramas, about what makes web dramas unique and appealing, the benefits and drawbacks of the format, and how they’re changing in this new era of streaming. Tina and Paroma also give Anisa some web series recommendations because she's a total noob in this area. Dramas mentioned in this episode: 7 First Kisses, If We Were a Season, A-Teen Seasons 1 and 2, Colour Rush, Nobleman Ryu's Wedding, and Boy Next Door.

Other podcast episodes you'll enjoy:

Episode 38: Paroma recommends A-Teen on the Playlist Global YouTube Channel

Episode 75: We discuss new mobile streaming apps creating original content, including short-form series similar to web dramas

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This episode was edited by Paroma and Anisa

Shooting Stars (aka sh**ting stars) starring Lee Sung-kyung and Kim Young-dae was one of the more entertaining dramas of 2022. We liked it a lot, but it also deserved all the thrashing it got online on certain subplots in the story. We talk about all of it in this spoiled yak.

Tell us your thoughts on the episode here: <Recording Page>

LINKS MENTIONED:

Paroma's reasons to watch Shooting Stars [Video Link]

TIMESTAMP:

00:30:31 - the racism problem

00:38:48 - the workplace harassment scene

MORE EPISODES YOU'LL LIKE:

Episode 142: If You Wish Upon Me

Episode 141: Arsenal Military Academy

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There is something special about the way K-dramas are written beyond the formulas and tropes. In this episode we talk about the way dialogue, story acts, and unique writing styles collide to make our favourite dramas.

We recorded this episode during a livestream discussion in 2022. If you here us speaking about comments, it's from the attendees of the stream. In Part 2, you can hear some of their voices in the final segment of the show as they jump in to give their own takes on drama writing.

Leave us your thoughts in a voice note here: <Recording Page>

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Dramas Over Flowers is part of the Frolic Podcast Network.

Welcome to our first proper Long Yak of 2022! In this one, Anisa and Paroma dig into our widely varying first impressions of Twenty-Five Twenty-One and Forecasting Love and Weather. And Saya makes a good case for why Rookie Cops is a worthier successor of Police University.

Don't forget to tell us which shows you've decided to pick up! DM on Insta or Twitter! Or leave a comment on our blog post for this episode.

TIMESTAMPS:

02:17 Twenty-Five Twenty-One

15:27 Forecasting Love and Weather

32:52 Rookie Cops

MORE EPISODES YOU'LL LIKE:

Episode 125: February Premieres: Forecasting Love and Weather | 2521 | Thirty-Nine | Grid | A Business Proposal

Episode 51: Our Spoiled Yak on Search: WWW, also by Twenty-Five Twenty-One writer Kwon Do-eun

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This episode was edited by Anisa.

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Saya and Paroma went to see BTS's concert film, Yet to Come in Cinemas, which took place in Busan on 23 October 2022 and released in cinemas worldwide in February 2023. We talk about the boys, the music, the fans, and our good and bad experiences at the cinema. Check out the official trailer here.

Tell us your thoughts in a voice note here: <Recording Page>

LINKS MENTIONED:

ScreenX trailers: Run BTS version, Dynamite version

One of our favourite performances: Mic Drop & Run BTS Stage CAM @ BTS “Yet To Come” in BUSAN.

Yet To Come (The Most Beautiful Moment) Official MV

TIMESTAMPS:

00:02:42 Why did BTS put on a free concert?

00:08:07 Comparing the different cinema release formats: ScreenX vs 4DX.

00:31:24 How a good crowd makes a concert (ft. 'Yoongi Marry Me!'), and Everybody Hates Teenage Girls.

00:40:28 BTS eats the stage with our favourite songs; lifting the spectre of enlistment, and winning the struggle to be acknowledged as artists.

00:53:35 Seriously, a good crowd makes a concert.

00:59:10 Reflecting on our BTS journey. Comparing the different ways we engage in (and with) fandom.

MORE EPISODES YOU'LL LIKE:

Episode 139: BTS: The Cost of Authenticity

Episode 140: Youth MT: The Reality of Korean Variety (Ft. In the Soop: Friendcation). In the Soop: Friendcation is where it all started, tipping Saya down the bangtan waterslide, into the mikrokosmos.

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CREDITS:

This episode was edited by Saya.

Dramas Over Flowers is part of the Frolic Podcast Network.

We are bringing back What's Up In Dramaland as bi-weekly youtube live streams. A newsy episode that covers Korean entertainment including casting news, upcoming dramas, catching up on industry conversations. (This is a one time livestream audio upload. Please check our youtube channel for future WUID episodes!)

Leave us your COMMENTS here.

TIME STAMPS:

00:00:00 lengthy intro

00:06:05 episode begins

LINKS MENTIONED:

What's Up In Dramaland on our YouTube Channel

LEAVE US A REVIEW:

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MORE EPISODES YOU MAY LIKE:

Episode 180: Our last long yak

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We review the first week of The King's Affection, our strong reactions to the childhood story of our protagonists, our resentment over deaths that we knew were coming but wish didn't happen, and our anticipation of the grown by characters carrying the story forward!

Watch Paroma's video essay on 3 ways The King's Affection subverts gender bender tropes!

Other podcast episodes you'll enjoy:

Episode 111: Where we talk about the casting and plot before the drama released!

Episode 47: Where we cover Rookie Historian Goo Hye-ryung while it was airing. A terrific drama to watch if you're enjoying The King's Affection!

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This episode was edited by Paroma

In our final What's Up in Dreamland of the year—what.—Anisa and Paroma discuss December premieres, with a meaningful tangent about political protest. As we anticipated during recording, The Silent Sea does now have an airdate and will be dropping on Dec 24. 

There are plenty of ways you can participate in Dramas Over Flowers' year-end festivities. See the links below to join us!

Links:

Upload your voice note for the Year-End Yak

Vote in our listener poll for the 3rd Annual Goguma Awards

Fill out our free 2021 K-drama Tracker to see how many dramas you finished and dropped this year.

Join our newsletter for monthly updates and podcast episode roundups!

Participate in #DramasOver2021 with us on Twitter

Timestamps:

00:02:42 The One and Only (postponed to 20th Dec, 2021)

00:08:32 Our Beloved Summer

00:14:11 Artificial City

00:22:12 Uncle

00:28:58 Bad and Crazy

00:33:20 Snowdrop

00:46:57 Bulgasal: Immortal Souls

00:52:33 When Flowers Bloom, I Think of the Moon

00:59:06 The Silent Sea

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This episode was edited by Anisa and Sripradha.

Awards season is the perfect time for us to share our review of Past Lives, our favorite film of last year. Saya, Anisa and our friend Yunah talk about why this movie's meditations on grief, love, diaspora and selfhood spoke to us so deeply. (We recorded this at the end of last year.)

Leave us your thoughts in a voice note here: <Recording Page>

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 Overall thoughts

20:39 Spoilers

LEAVE US A REVIEW:

Apple podcasts | Spotify | Audible!

MORE EPISODES YOU'LL LIKE:

Episode 89: Our review of Minari, also with Yunah

Episode 153: Crash Landing on You and the unbearable sadness of partition

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This episode was edited by Anisa. Music: Pretty without You (Instrumental Version) by Vicky Vox

Don't worry, this is NOT a stealth goodbye podcast! In this episode, we talk about why we fall out of love with fandoms that we once loved so much, and what makes some stick for life. (You could call it the date, marry, kill episode? Spoiler alert, we marry K-dramas.)

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LEAVE US A REVIEW:

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MORE EPISODES YOU'LL LIKE:

Episode 171: A Short History of K-dramas Before Netflix

Episode 165: Perfect Marriage Revenge spoiler review

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Music: "I'm Still in Love with You" (Instrumental) by Jake $ing

Anisa sits down with Paroma to convince her to watch If You Wish Upon Me, an unexpectedly healing drama with a wonderful ensemble cast and moving depictions of grief, redemption and reconciliation. Ji Chang-wook is finally in the kind of role he deserves, Choi Soo-young brings her unique brand of incandescence, Sung Dong-il is giving FULL DAD, and Anisa can't help but be reminded of SNSD's Genie every time she sees the title. Because, this meta was clearly intentional.

Tell us your thoughts in a voice note here: <Recording Page>

LINKS MENTIONED:

Vote in the Fourth Annual Goguma Awards!

MORE EPISODES YOU'LL LIKE:

Episode 120: Listen to us rave about how much we loved Choi Soo-young in Run On

Episode 140: Listen to us squee over Ji Chang-wook, exemplary but awkward sunbae, in Youth MT/Young Actors Retreat

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Anisa, Paroma and guest Frabby chat about the miseries and joys of relationship melodrama The Interest of Love, which gently, brilliantly destroyed us every week—and we loved it all. Expect major spoilers in this one!

Tell us your thoughts in a voice note here: <Recording Page>

LINKS MENTIONED:

Read Frabby's wonderful reviews of The Interest of Love.

MORE EPISODES YOU'LL LIKE:

Episode 137: F4 Thailand and the Boys Over Flowers Extended Universe, where Frabby joined us to talk about the many adaptations of Dramaland's favorite story

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We bring you another spoiler-filled movie chat with Anisa and Paroma. The last time we did this, we had just watched Black Panther and couldn't stop ourselves from recording an episode. You can find that episode here. (Episode 10)

No time stamps on this one since it's a super casual chat, but we focus 70% of the conversation on the perfection of casting Tony Leung as an immortal warrior as well as husband-in-mourning. You've been warned.

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Welcome to the first Q&A with Dramas Over Flowers! We decided to answer some interesting email questions on the podcast in celebration of our 100th episode. We have loved taking this journey together and we appreciate every listener who's joined us on the way. Please keep sending us these wonderful questions, so we can do another mailbag soon!

Time stamps (for the full questions, please visit the extended show notes here.)

00:02:55 - Dr Chi's first question

00:34:00 - Frances' question

00:44:00 - Sarah Hope's question

01:04:00 - Dr Chi's second question

01:09:00 - JustMe's question

01:15:00 - Kfangurl's question

Find our wonderful interview with Kfangurl in this episode!

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Paroma and friend of the podcast, Just Me, discuss the first season of Yumi's Cells - the perfect casting, the amazing music, the beats of the story that surprised us, the weight and beauty of the ending, and what we think will happen next!

You can find Just Me on twitter @justepicness.

LINKS:

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OTHER EPISODES WE THINK YOU’LL LIKE:

Episode 91 - Mr. Queen Spoiled Yak

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We bring you a shorter long yak on two dramas we're watching and a lot of discussions on actor micro-expressions, the impermanence of cancel culture for powerful actors, and why we some time pause dramas we love.

Don't forget to tell us which shows you've decided to pick up! DM on Insta or Twitter!

[More information about the disgraced actor, Lee Kyung-young, who is guilty of sex with a minor can be found here and here. For some thing this disgusting, there's surprisingly little coverage on his crime.]

TIMESTAMP:

07:45 - Liberation Notes

32:18 - Again My Life

MORE EPISODES YOU'LL LIKE:

Episode 127: Goblin

Episode 124: Editor's Pick 2021

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Saya is here for a Wild Yak to convince Paroma to watch 2020 Chinese drama CROSSFIRE, about two young men who meet each other in a game - but are eleven years apart in time. A spoiler-free intro to the show. PS. Saya really, really loved it.

We talk about:

• The Signal conceit
• The rise of pro-gaming
• Gaming dramas as an emerging genre in C-dramas
• The trials of watching dramas in a totally unfamiliar language with horrible subtitles
• Side discussions on: dealing with addictions, C-drama Sweet Combat, actors Luhan and Leo Wu, and...peg legs and parrots.
• Cameo from Duke <3

CrossFire in real life:

The Biggest FPS Game You've Never Heard Of - CrossFire (video)

Crossfire - The Most Popular First Person Shooter In The World (video)

Smilegate’s drama series ‘CrossFire’ tops 100m views in China

Did we convince you to watch it? Let us know! You can email us, or DM on Insta or Twitter!

MORE EPISODES YOU'LL LIKE:

Episode 78: TLY - Kairos | The Spies Who Loved Me | Tale of the Nine-Tailed (Because Kairos!)

Episode 123: When Dramas Ruin You For Real Life, because this is also how CrossFire made me feel.

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In Part 3 of our year end yak, friends of the podcast visit to give us a heads up on dramas that have gone unnoticed or underappreciated in 2022.

Leave us your thoughts in a voice note here: <Recording Page>

TIMESTAMP:

01:48 - Our Blues (Frabby and Yunah)

12:12 - Kiss Sixth Sense (Anja)

15:27 - Summer Strike (Just Me)


17:53 - Bloody Heart (Mimi)

22:00 - Law Cafe (Minal)

24:28 - Love All Play (Minal)

29:11 - Pachinko (Tina)

33:38 - Green Mother’s Club (Abdul)

38:25 - All of Us Are Dead (Cedarbough Saeji)

43:17 - Shining For One Thing (Kfangurl)

49:20 - Gratitude & Shoutouts!

MORE EPISODES YOU'LL LIKE:

Episode 143: Year End Yak Part 1

Episode 145: Year End Yak Part 2

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In Part 2 of our annual Year-End Yak, we first give out our personal Goguma Awards, and then we chat about our current relationship with k-dramaland.

Part 3 (finale!) coming out next week.

Leave us your thoughts in a voice note here: <Recording Page>

LINKS MENTIONED:

Paroma's YouTube Channel

TIMESTAMP:

# ANISA’S PERSONAL GOGUMAS


00:01:15 - Lee Min-ki Award For Being Lee Min-ki

00:02:31 - Sight For Sore hearts

00:05:04 - Real, Real, Real House Envy

00:06:55 - Most Unfulfilled Yearning

# PAROMA’S PERSONAL GOGUMAS

00:08:13 - Best Heartless Assassin With An Adorable Face

00:10:30 - The Most Loveable Villain

00:11:34 - Biggest Sinner We Forgave

00:12:36 - The Second Lead Who Second Lead-ed Till the End

00:15:03 - The Most Die For Your Workplace Drama

00:16:07 - The OTP Break-Up I Will Defend To Death

# SAYA’S PERSONAL GOGUMAS

00:18:45 - Too Netflix Couldn’t Do It
00:26:23 - You Made Me Stay

00:32:04 - You Could Not Save This Drama

00:37:41 - Enemies To Brothers

00:42:09 - Biggest Waste of Star Power

# OUR DRAMA YEAR

00:47:05 - Paroma

00:51:30 - Anisa

00:55:46 - Saya

# PERSONALLY RELEVANT DRAMAS


01:12:35 - Anisa

01:26:41 - Paroma

01:36:44 - Saya

01:56:20 - Very odd similarities amongst dramas in 2022

MORE EPISODES YOU'LL LIKE:

Episode 144: Year End Yak (Part 1)

Episode 146: Year End Yak (Part 3) (Upcoming!)

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Finally, it's part 3 of the longest yak we've ever done! In Part 3 of our 2021 Year End Yak, we bring you Listeners' Choice Awards, each of our personal top three dramas, and some reflections and thanks to round out the year.

Note: We recorded this in December, so if you became a Patreon subscriber since then, not to worry, your patron shoutout is coming soon!

Timestamps:

00:00:45 Listeners' Choice Awards

00:07:07 Our Personal Top 3 Dramas

01:04:38 A look back at DOF's year

01:17:03 Some recommendations!

01:32:34 Thank you guests, patrons, listeners ❤︎ 

Links:

Muslim in Plain Sight

Anisa's 1A appearance and Nightline translations

Paroma's Drama Notes and The Creative Procrastinator

Podcasts we mentioned: Citations Needed, You’re Wrong About, Maintenance Phase, Enemies of the People, Code Switch, Throughline

YouTube video essay channels: Mary TB, yuanProduction, MyDramaList, Bbali Drama, Drama Hyung, Accented Cinema

Don't Miss:

Episode 121: Year End Yak Part 1 (Trends)

Episode 122: Year End Yak Part 2 (Goguma Awards)

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This episode was edited by Anisa and Sripradha.

Here's a special sneak preview of something we've been doing on Patreon: The Lone Yak! We take a moment (or a few) to tell you what's on our minds, whether about a drama we've been watching, general K-drama thoughts, or life! This episode contains Saya talking about becoming a new version of yourself in public, Paroma talks about when we defend our faves (and don't) and why, and Anisa reviews the first half of Crash Course in Romance - and talks a little about murder rom-coms.

Tell us your thoughts in a voice note here: <Recording Page>

MORE EPISODES YOU'LL LIKE:

Episode 151: Our Blooming Youth is bringing back memories of Park Hyung-shik in Hwarang

Episode 148: Paroma's Lone Yak on Love to Hate You

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Perfect Marriage Revenge is a drama that kept all its promises: revenge! marriage! perfect! We revel in how the drama revels in its story, with special props to writer Im Seo-ra for some of the best writing in dramaland this year.

SPOILERS EVERYWHERE, BEWARE BEWARE!

Feat. beloved and returning guest, Zaynab, who does not want to be found.

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LINKS MENTIONED:

Our new youtube channel, Bangtan Over Flowers.

LEAVE US A REVIEW:

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MORE EPISODES YOU'LL LIKE:

Episode 164: A Long Yak on Castaway Diva, Perfect Marriage Revenge, Twinkling Watermelon, and many more

Episode 149: K-Drama Screenwriting (Part 1): The Value of Tropes & Why Second Halves Plummet

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Finally, we have arrived at the titular Squid Game! Anisa is joined by our friend kfangurl to finish up this dystopic voyage into the human psyche. We take a spoilery dive into episodes 7-9, discussing those much-maligned English speaking actors, whether the ending worked for us, and our thoughts on a second season. 

Links:

kfangurl's excellent review of Squid Game

Director Hwang Dong-hyuk describes how the show is inspired by his own life

The Guardian's interview with the actors who played those VIPs

Other Episodes We Think You'll Like:

Episode 109 - Saya and Anisa's spoilery impressions on episodes 1-3 of Squid Game

Episode 111 - We talk about why Squid Game became the first K-drama to take over the world

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It's been almost 2 years, guys. It's definitely time to move on from #KimSeonHo's breakout performance in START-UP. But before we do, here's a look back at why #HanJiPyeong captured our hearts, how much of this effect was intentional on the creators' part, and why his fans walked away bitter after that ending.

(Also maybe why #NamJoohyuk also got a bad deal out of it. 😅)

Talk to us on Insta or Twitter!

Or leave a comment under the video version on YOUTUBE!

TIMESTAMP:

00:00 - Intro

01:20 - Why was Han Ji-pyeong so appealing?

05:52 - Is Han Ji-pyeong perfect for So Dal-mi?

09:27 - Creators wanted to subvert tropes

12:40 - Start-Up played the audience

13:43 - Backlash from the fans

16:00 - How the drama messed up with Han Ji-pyeong

23:36 - The worst way to treat a fan favourite

MORE EPISODES YOU'LL LIKE:

Episode 127: Goblin: The Great and Lonely God [Wild Yak]

Episode 123: When Dramas Ruin You For Real Life

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This episode was edited by Paroma

Dramas Over Flowers is part of the Frolic Podcast Network.

In Part 1 of our massive (as usual) Year-End Yak, we talk first about trends in K-drama and our general thoughts on 2022. Then we break down the winners of our Audience Gogumas (some silly, some Very Important).

Part 2

Part 3

Tell us your thoughts in a voice note here: <Recording Page>

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00:57 Trends and general thoughts

00:58:36 4th Annual Goguma Awards!

01:03:11 Craziest Premise/Best Execution

01:03:37 Best First Half/Worst Second Half

01:04:17 Most Iconic Heroine

01:05:11 Best Hero ("You nice, keep going")

01:06:36 Peak Nostalgia

01:07:27 My Second Life Was My Best Life

01:09:27 Take Pity on Your Manager

01:19:14 Most Sincere Depiction of Grief

01:14:39 Best Old-School Comfort Watch

01:16:50 Top of Their Game Award

01:19:44 Snuck in and Stole the Show

01:23:27 Most Evolved Actor (or: Finally, Growth!)

01:28:35 Most Epic OTP

01:32:37 Soundtrack Played on Repeat

01:37:55 Create Your Own Award

01:50:26 Most Disliked Drama

01:58:18 Top 3 Dramas

LINKS:

It's Beginning to Look a Lot Like Christmas cover by V (Tae-hyung) of BTS

Frabby's review of Love is for Suckers

MORE EPISODES YOU'LL LIKE:

Episode 143: Shooting Stars: Wholesome Romance with Problematic Subplots

Episode 121: 2021 in Dramaland: Year-End Yak Part 1 (Trends)

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CREDITS:

This episode was edited by Saya and Anisa.

Dramas Over Flowers is part of the Frolic Podcast Network.

We are back with a long yak on three dramas we started 2024 with: Doctor Slump, Marry My Husband, and Like Flowers In Sand.

This episode was recorded on 11th February. Our feelings on these dramas have stayed the same (with Doctor Slump getting special love for staying so reliably warm till the end).

Leave us your thoughts in a voice note here: <Recording Page>

LINKS MENTIONED:

Paroma's Doctor Slump post.

Support Gaza through the Palestine Children's Relief Fund here.

TIMESTAMP:

00:01:50 - Doctor Slump

00:45:57 - Like Flowers In Sand

01:06:15 - Marry My Husband

LEAVE US A REVIEW:

Apple podcasts | Spotify | Audible!

MORE EPISODES YOU'LL LIKE:

Episode 166: Our last long yak

Episode 165: Our spoiled yak on Perfect Marriage Revenge

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The Long Yak is back! After a bunch of spoiled yaks and wild yaks, we’re back with the classic yak flavor! ...Okay that sounded weird - we’re not eating Goguma, don’t worry. In this episode, we talk about some shows we’ve started and finished over the last couple of months. A heads up that we discuss spoilers for episodes one and two of Hometown Cha Cha Cha, and Anisa gives away the broad strokes of how Mad For Each Other ends. So use the time stamps wisely!

LINKS

Listen to Saya and Anisa's new podcast Muslim in Plain Sight here.

Read merisoo's amazing character study of Yeo Joon from At a Distance, Spring is Green.

TIME STAMPS

00:04:43 D.P.

00:15:32 Hometown Cha Cha Cha

00:35:36 Police University

00:40:47 Hospital Playlist 2

01:01:32 At a Distance, Spring is Green

01:11:46 Mad for Each Other

01:16:34 The Rational Life

Our Beloved Patrons:

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Dramas Over Flowers is part of the Frolic Podcast Network.

This episode was edited by Anisa.

Welcome to our first outing of The Wild Yak! In this episode, Saya gives her closing thoughts on this little jewel of a drama that ran March-April, starring Song Kang and Park In-hwan. Spoilers inside!

Our Beloved Patrons:

Egads, Steven, Lia W., Hades, Gracefulegg, Divina, Saoirse10, MCG, Humbledaisy, Eunice Choi, Jojo, Rue, k8ekol, mindy, Liliana, Edyth, Marcia, unatuna, Dr. Chi, Lesley H, G. K, Lynette, Vani, Helena, Staci, Hanna, Eazal, Natalie, Sarah Hope, Frances, David F, Yu Jin Young, Julia, O’Lakes, Foongy L., Lindsey, sah fa, Dianne, MelG, and latest additions to our Patreon fam: Anonymous Otter, Haru, Fredrika, D. Nguyen, and SB! Thank you, we love you! ❤︎

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This episode was edited by Saya.

We loved Lee Min-ki in My Liberation Notes and decided to talk about all his dramas and movies that we sought out over the years cause you can never have enough of this guy.

Don't forget to tell us which shows you've decided to pick up! DM on Insta or Twitter!

TIMESTAMP:

01:19 - Important announcement

02:46 - All about Lee Min-ki <3

LINK:

What Would Dramaland Do?

MORE EPISODES YOU'LL LIKE:

Episode 133: Discussing first half of Extraordinary Attorney Woo

Episode 129: We yak about My Liberation Notes

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This episode was edited by Anisa, assisted by Paroma

Dramas Over Flowers is part of the Frolic Podcast Network.

Eight new dramas releasing in September!

TimeStamps!

NEWS

00:03:16 - 'Imitation' boy band song gets on real world chart

00:05:56 - Lee Jun-young helps police catch a drunk driver

00:09:29 - Seungri's sentencing and what happens next

00:11:06 - 'Hospital Playlist' actress Ahn Eun-jin (Min-ah) signs up with UAA

00:12:18 - Casting speculations!

PREMIERES

00:15:02 - Lost

00:19:32 - High Class

00:22:38 - One the Woman

00:27:50 - Squid Game

00:33:24 - Yumi's Cells

00:38:32 - The Veil

00:45:47 - Dalli and the Cocky Prince

00:55:15 - Hometown

01:00:04 - Love in Black Hole

LINKS

Jang Dong-yoon heroism: Actor Jang DongYoon's Past Heroism Intrigues Koreans

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Dramas Over Flowers is part of the Frolic Podcast Network. Find more podcasts you’ll love at frolic.media/podcasts.

This episode was edited by Paroma.

This month, we're back and labouring under the realisation that when you have a K-drama podcast, you have to watch the biggest global TV sensation in the history of K-dramas! I admit, we are not hating it, but we reserve the right to grumble! We also take a sidestep to talk about whether age affects how we enjoy actors, before jumping into October premieres.

TIMESTAMPS

NEWS

00:01:22 Why did Squid Game blow up?

00:20:09 Does an actor's age affect how you feel about them?

PREMIERES

00:29:05 The King's Affection

00:43:46 Reflection of you

00:47:32 My Name

00:53:29 Jirisan

01:00:19 Would You Like a Cup of Coffee

01:02:32 Crime Puzzle

01:07:57 Chimaera

01:12:54 Inspector Koo

Other Episodes We Think You'll Like:

Episode 109 - Saya and Anisa review Episodes 1-3 of Squid Game and their brains explode

Episode 110 - Saya and Anisa review Episodes 4-6 of Squid Game and their hearts are crushed

Links:

Lee Tennant: Equality and Equity in Squid Game

Kfangurl's Squid Game review

Dear kfangurl: Why is Squid Game so popular?

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This episode started as a spoilery discussion of Arsenal Military Academy (a 2019 chinese drama set in the early 20th century, starring Bai Lu and Xu Kai), but became a longer conversation on the history of imperialism and china's use of underdog stories to ignite national pride. But it's still a dramas over flowers episode, so expect lots of fangirling and explosive laughter.

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LINKS:

KOBO PLUS is available in Italy | Canada | Australia | New Zealand

The music video that convinced Paroma to watch Arsenal Military Academy

MORE EPISODES YOU'LL LIKE:

Episode 130: Cross-fire (spoiler free) & discussion of rise in gaming cdramas

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Hi, we come back to you (pretty soon for us) with another long yak! Yes, Anisa is in this one. 😄

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TIMESTAMP:

00:01:24 Bad-memory eraser

00:17:47 My sweet mobster

00:42:57 The auditors

01:04:02 Dreaming of a freaking fairy-tale

01:14:57 Miss night and day

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MORE EPISODES YOU'LL LIKE:

Episode 173: Growing out of fandoms

Episode 175: Art of convincing Saya to watch dramas

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We finally talk about why Crash Landing on You is SO GOOD. And we discuss Anisa's master's thesis on media portrayals of love across the borders created by partition - and why CLOY's depiction of that yearning is the best we've ever seen.

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LINKS:

Anisa's thesis, Visualizing the Fractured Nation: Narratives of (Un)belonging in 21st Century Indian and South Korean Media

Interview with Park Ji-eun’s co-writer Kwak Moon-wan, a North Korean defector, plus answers to more fan questions

Reunions of separated North and South Korean families

Listen to the Empire podcast's excellent episode on the Jallianwala Bagh Massacre

Watch the video that made Anisa ship Binnie & Jinnie back in 2020, before we knew they were real

TIMESTAMPS:

00:01:00 Why CLOY is one of a kind

00:28:00 Villain Oh Man-seok vs. Big Bad North Korea

00:38:00 Comparing The King: 2 Hearts and Crash Landing on You

01:02:00 How CLOY tackles the impossibility of a happy ending

01:10:00 Saya and Paroma share their favorite parts of Anisa's thesis

01:21:00 Hyun Bin and Son Ye-jin's IRL happy ending ❤︎

MORE EPISODES YOU'LL LIKE:

Episode 137: We discuss the previous generation's gateway drama, Boys Over Flowers in its many iterations

Episode 145: Our Spoiled Yak on The Interest of Love

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This episode was edited by Anisa.

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Welcome to another anniversary Mailbag episode! We asked for your thoughts on dramas, on us, anything at all, and you gave us a lot to talk about!

Also, let us know if you liked, loved, or FF'd this episode in a voice note here: <Recording Page>

LINKS MENTIONED:

The Hollywood writers’ strike: Vox explains

LA Times article about Netflix's affect on Korea Entertainment Industry

Burn it Down excerpt

RELATED EPISODES YOU'LL LIKE:

The burning sun special, episode 37

On representation, episodes 65 and episode 66.

TIMESTAMP:

00:00:43 - Our emotional safe space

00:09:00 - What does it mean to be podcasting for 6 years?

Your messages:

00:24:00 - Movie directors flocking to dramas now that they're prestige

00:55:00 - Objectifying child actors and young K-pop trainees

01:13:00 - A listener recommendation: Not Others

00:16:00 - What tropes do we want to see explored more in dramaland?

01:28:00 - How have we lasted 6 years?

01:37:00 - How seasonal shows differ from single season K-dramas?

01:45:00 - Did the Burning Sun incident change our view of the K-drama industry?

01:57:00 - Our auto-watch actors?

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Welcome to the last Long Yak of 2021! Join us for a long conversation as we catch up with each other on all the dramas on our plate.

Use the hashtag #DramasOver2021 on twitter and review the dramas you watched in 2021! We'll retweet every one of them. <3

LINKS:

Send us your voice notes for the Year End Yak: UPLOAD

Use our K-drama tracker for 2021 for free: DOWNLOAD

Join our newsletter for monthly updates and podcast episode roundups!

OTHER EPISODES WE THINK YOU’LL LIKE:

Episode 116 - Yumi's Cells Season 1 Spoiled Yak!

Episode 109 - Our spoilery thoughts on Episodes 1-3 of Squid Game

TIMESTAMPS:

00:05:56 Police University

00:17:51 Squid Game

00:21:42 My Name

00:31:56 Jirisan

00:41:32 Yumi's Cells

00:48:45 The King’s Affection

01:06:11 Dali and Gamjatang

01:18:03 Happiness

01:27:39 Melancholia

01:40:44 My Ajusshi

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Dramas Over Flowers is part of the Frolic Podcast Network.

This episode was edited by Paroma and Sripradha.

Bora! Deborah was mostly frustrating yet sometimes joyous to watch. So we do a needlessly long deep dive into why it gripped us so hard.

Tell us your thoughts in a voice note here: <Recording Page>

LINKS MENTIONED:

Mattie Kahn's excellent Vox piece on Viktor Frankl [here] (the real source of Bora's "getting pretty" quote)

My own short piece on why using such an anecdote without context is harmful [here]

TIMESTAMP:

00:01:54 - Yoo In-na made us watch it

00:16:00 - Episode 1

00:26:25 - Yeon Bora

00:33:11 - Episode 3

00:37:59 - The great breakup

00:42:11 - Yu-jung & Ji-woo

00:51:41 - Exploring grief

01:00:43 - Episode 4

01:08:29 - Episode 5-7

01:11:57 - Lee Su-hyuk

01:24:04 - Episode 8

01:31:04 - Episode 9

01:41:32 - Sang-jin & Uri

01:51:09 - Episode 10-12

02:05:15 - Episode 13-14

02:18:33 - Jin-ho & Bomi

02:38:54 - Closing

MORE EPISODES YOU'LL LIKE:

Episode153: Crash Landing On You and the unbearable sadness of partition

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Saya takes Paroma on an epic journey through her recent watchlist.

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LINKS MENTIONED:

"Silenced Beauty" video essay on Seolhyun in Running Man.

TIMESTAMP:

00:00:00 Jinny's Kitchen

00:19:22 Top Management

00:27:25 Good Day To Be a Dog

00:34:00 Miraculous Brothers

00:39:53 Moving (ending spoilers beware!)

00:49:15 Begins =/= Youth

00:58:51 MYSTERY DRAMA no okay just kidding - Ripe Town

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MORE EPISODES YOU'LL LIKE:

Episode 174: Lovely Runner spoiled yak

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This episode was edited by Paroma & Saya

In Part 1 of our (extremely belated) Year-End Yak for 2024, we talk Personal Gogumas - the awards the three of us want to give to the dramas we loved in 2024.

Leave us your COMMENTS here.

LINKS MENTIONED:

Dramas Over Flowers' playlist of favorite 2024 OSTs as curated by Anisa

TIME STAMPS:

(These are questions we asked each other)

0:07:36 What’s a drama that surprised you?

0:46:20 A drama I'll remember 2024 for

0:54:15 An OST that stayed with us

1:03:21 Last minute watch that was totally worth it

1:07:00 A drama that got some wrong headed critique?

1:16:33 Mid or low budget drama you loved

1:22:43 Actors you want to highlight from 2024

1:35:45 A character that stayed with you all year/since you watched them

1:51:10 Most long-awaited comeback

1:59:46 Favorite couple/favorite romance

2:05:05 Actor that did the MOST in 2024

2:07:55 It started so well

2:11:49 Well that ended better than I expected

2:13:54 Two dramas you’ll recommend to your co-hosts?

LEAVE US A REVIEW:

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MORE EPISODES YOU MAY LIKE:

Episode 183: Long Yak on Jeongnyeon: The Star is Born, The Trunk, When the Phone RIngs, & more

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This episode was edited by Paroma. Music from Epidemic Sound.

It’s the end of the year and as we all reflect on the dramas we loved in 2021, we thought it would be a good time to release this Spoiled Yak on one of our favorites—Run On. Our friend, Seoulbeats editor Rimi, joins Anisa Paroma for a long and detailed squee session about the show. If it sounds familiar, that’s because we actually recorded this in a livestream on Valentines day. In the spirit of Mi-joo’s movie madness, our topic headings for this Spoled Yak are all film references. Listen and relive the feels for this incredibly well-written, moving, hilarious show.

Links:

Rimi's articles on Seoulbeats

Saya's Drama Addict Diary where she coined the perfect term "Noppa".

Anisa's 2021 Year in Review, which is, fittingly, full of movie references and love for Run On.

Other Episodes We Think You’ll Like:

Episode 83 - Our Little Yak on Run On's first half

Episode 87 - Our non-spoilery final thoughts on Run On in The Long Yak

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This episode was edited by Anisa.

A beginner friendly discussion of K-pop sensation BTS and how idol groups connect deeply with fans by opening up about their vulnerabilities.

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MORE EPISODES YOU'LL LIKE:

Episode 138: The Red Sleeve

Episode 137: F4 Thailand and the Boys Over Flowers Extended Universe

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Dramas Over Flowers is part of the Frolic Podcast Network.

At last Dramas Over Flowers talks about Boys Over Flowers! With our amazing guest Frabby, we discuss the latest adaptation of the memorable Hana Yori Dango, and how it stacks up against the Korean version that is a guilty watch for many.

Don't forget to tell us which shows you've decided to pick up! DM on Insta or Twitter!

LINKS MENTIONED:

Book Recommended: The Unmatchmakers by Jackie Lau

The scene in Meteor Garden - !! Trigger warning for sexual assault !!

Find Frabby's recaps of F4 Thailand here.

Connect with our guest on twitter @frabsiscrabsis

TIMESTAMP:

00:01:50 - First taste of Hana Yori Dango

00:12:31 - How F4 Thailand stacks up against predecessors

00:49:44 - Threatening sexual violence in Meteor Garden

01:00:15 - Why do we keep coming back for Domyoji and Thyme?

01:09:05 - Ranking our best versions

THANK YOU to our beloved patrons for another year of helping us light the lanterns to sail our ship!

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CREDITS:

This episode was edited by Paroma

Dramas Over Flowers is part of the Frolic Podcast Network.

Anisa and Paroma pop in before our next installment of the Year-End Yak to chat about currently airing dramas, including pretty much a full Spoiled Yak about Love Scout, which we ADORED. Paroma convinces Anisa to watch My Dearest Nemesis, Anisa laments the wasted potential of Melo Movie, and more.

Leave us your COMMENTS here.

TIMESTAMPS:

00:03:11 Love Scout

00:11:59 Love Scout SPOILERS

00:46:52 The Potato Lab

00:56:36 My Dearest Nemesis

01:12:17 Melo Movie

01:36:49 The Trauma Code: Heroes on Call

01:47:40 The First Frost

02:15:37 Fireworks of My Heart

02:21:27 Filter

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CREDITS:

This episode was edited by Anisa. Music from Epidemic Sound.

The second part of our extra long discussion of extraordinary attorney woo is here! (Find Part 1 here.)

Don't forget to tell us which shows you've decided to pick up! DM on Insta or Twitter!

LINKS MENTIONED:

Register for the Writers on Writers livestream here.

For REPLAY of the live sign up to our newsletter here.

MORE EPISODES YOU'LL LIKE:

Episode 135: Extraordinary Attorney Woo Spoiled Yak (PART 1)

Episode 133: Extraordinary Attorney Woo MID SEASON REVIEW

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This episode was edited by Saya (assisted by Paroma)

Dramas Over Flowers is part of the Frolic Podcast Network.

Welcome to the August What's Up in Dramaland! Here we take you through some industry news, give you our take on them, and then move on to upcoming dramas, which is MY favourite segment cause it's all about wild speculations and mixing up actor names while we try to figure out if we're willing to give these show a chance on our watchlist.

TIME STAMPS:

02:43:17 Covid updates from S. Korea

04:17:16 MBC apologizes for idiotic representation choices

09:31:04 Kwon Eun-bin's interview

11:19:01 The 'No K-Pop on a Dead Planet' campaign

18:52:05 AUGUST PREMIERES

19:30:27 The Road: Tragedy of One

29:11:27 Lovers of the Red Sky

33:09:07 Hometown Cha Cha Cha

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Dramas Over Flowers is part of the Frolic Podcast Network. Find more podcasts you’ll love at frolic.media/podcasts.

This episode was edited by Paroma.

Saya and Paroma sit down for a good gab about jTBC's 10-year anniversary drama, Sisyphus: The Myth, that aired earlier in the year, starring Park Shin-hye and Jo Seung-woo. We discuss why it wasn't a perfect show, but also the things that were perfectly done despite it. We're optimistic about the future of sci-fi in the K-drama realm, though, and the lush scope of Sisyphus gets us really excited! Come and listen!

Note: At times, we (mainly Saya) use the name 'Seung-bok' to refer to Eddy Kim. They are the same person!

LINKS:

• Our reviews on our blog
• The moment - the music - that sucked Saya in
• Paroma's video essay: The Real Hero of Sisyphus is Seo-hae

OTHER EPISODES WE THINK YOU'LL LIKE:

Episode 94: The Long Yak where Anisa discusses why she dropped Sisyphus

Episode 85: WUID episode where we preview Sisyphus before it airs

JOIN IN THE YEAR-END FUN!

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Grab your copy of our free 2021 K-drama Tracker to see how many dramas you finished and dropped this year!

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Dramas Over Flowers is part of the Frolic Podcast Network.

This episode was edited by Saya and Paroma.

Anisa and Paroma gush about the first half of currently airing time-travel romance K-drama Lovely Runner, which we are LOVING. The first 40 minutes are free of major spoilers!

Tell us what you think of Lovely Runner in a voice note here: <Recording Page>

LINKS MENTIONED:

Anisa's Queen of Tears first impressions review

TIMESTAMP:

00:40:27 Spoilers

LEAVE US A REVIEW:

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MORE EPISODES YOU'LL LIKE:

Episode 162: Someday or One Day Review

Episode 170: A long yak on Doctor Slump, Marry My Husband and Like Flowers in Sand

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CREDITS:

This episode was edited by Anisa.

Music: "Dear My Ocean" (Instrumental) by Adelyn Paik and "Woke Up" by Cushy

Welcome to Part 1 of our Year End Yak. In this episode, we discuss the stories, trends, controversies, and fall out from dramaland in 2021. And when Saya, Anisa, and Paroma are done, our listeners and guests chime in with their insightful commentary on the year that passed.

Have a very happy new year, everyone!

TIMESTAMPS:

05:00 - Shorter Streaming Dramas

10:17 - Getting Netflix to Pay For Data Consumption

14:13 - Bullying Scandals

16:21 - Snowdrop Controversy

21:01 - Work-life Focused Dramas

23:54 - Vigilantism On the Rise

28:47 - Idol Dramas

30:05 - Higher Budgets in Webtoon Adaptations

33:11 - Listener & Guest Notes on Drama Trends

The voice notes were sent by (in order of appearance): Staci, Anja, Dr. Chi, Granny, Ingatkayo, Jen, JustMe, Kfangurl, Merisoo, and Tina. Thank you so much for joining us on this episode! <3

AFTER THIS, CHECK OUT

Episode 122: Year End Yak Part 2 (to be released on 10 Jan '22)

Episode 123: Year End Yak Part 3 (to be released on 17 Jan '22)

THANK YOU BELOVED PATRONS!

Download our free 2021 Kdrama tracker to see how many shows you watched and dropped this year.

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This episode was edited by Paroma

Saya and Anisa have a quick yak about our first impressions of two currently airing dramas, and then Anisa confesses to having seen some Run BTS.

Leave us your thoughts in a voice note here: <Recording Page>

LINKS MENTIONED:

Part 2 of our throwback 2014 dramas livestream

TIMESTAMPS:

02:19 Cinderella at 2am

15:22 Love Next Door

31:56 Run BTS (a sampling)

LEAVE US A REVIEW:

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NEWSLETTER:

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PATRONS:

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CREDITS:

This episode was edited by Anisa. Music: "Feels Like Summer" by Staffan Carlén.

Anisa and Paroma yak about dramas they finished recently.

Leave us your COMMENTS here.

LINKS:

Tell us about your drama year in our annual survey! Vote in the Goguma Awards (deadline: Jan 18th)

And while you vote, listen to this playlist of our favorite OSTs of 2024.

TIMESTAMPS:

00:02:46 Face Me (final thoughts)

00:20:31 Dongjae, the Good or the Bastard (final thoughts)

00:27:27 When the Phone Rings (midway thoughts)

00:36:10 The Trunk (final thoughts)

01:05:57 Jeongnyeon: The Star Is Born (midway thoughts)

01:13:20 Brewing Love (final thoughts)

01:27:52 A Virtuous Business (midway thoughts)

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The Red Sleeve is a story of a woman's wish to belong to herself and the man who couldn't let her go. It's also about a king who couldn't trust his grandson and a crown prince who survived against all odds so he could some day be a good ruler to his people.

Mimi from The Talking Cupboard joins Paroma in a very spoilery episode where they wonder at the superior storytelling, the strength of conviction of the creators, and the exceptional performance by the entire cast, but most especially by Lee Jun-ho and Lee Se-young.

LINKS MENTIONED:

Book Link: A Ghost in Shining Armour by Therese Beharrie.

You can catch up with Mimi on twitter @muchadoboutlove

Definitely read her excellent essay on the romance in The Red Sleeve here.

MORE EPISODES YOU'LL LIKE:

Episode 137: F4 Thailand & the Boys Over Flowers Extended Universe

Episode 135 & 136: Extraordinary Attorney Woo Spoiled Yak Part 1 & Part 2

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Stephan Lee talks to us about his books, K-pop Confidential and its sequel K-pop Revolution, which follow a Korean American teenager chasing her dreams as a trainee idol in Seoul. We discuss his writing process for each book, the relationship between art and activism, his personal experience of anti-Asian violence, and his trip to Seoul during his time as an entertainment journalist for Entertainment Weekly, and more. 

LINKS:

Buy Stephan's wonderful books!

Stephan's viral thread about his experience of racist violence and its aftermath

Find Stephan on Twitter, Instagram and TikTok

MORE EPISODES YOU'LL LIKE:

Episode 96: Interview with Kfangurl of The Fangirl Verdict

Episode 124: Part 3 of Our Year End Yak, in which Anisa waxes poetic about Idol: The Coup

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Welcome, welcome to Part 2 of our year-end celebration gala! With no less than 28 different awards, this not so much a Yak as it is a Mammoth Marathon, as we try to conquer the highs and lows of Dramaland 2021 in the space of two wild hours.

If you've listened to Part 1, you may already know that we thought this was going to be in 2 parts (big mistake!), but it ended up being 3 - so happy new year and we'll see you in Part 3!

TIMESTAMPS

00:01:06 - The Most Hallyutastic Drama

00:09:37 - The Biggest Ideas, Bestestly Done

00:20:53 - The Title Most Lost in Translation

00:24:40 - Best Use of Covid

00:29:20 - Best Use of Music & Sound

00:38:13 - The Drama That Was Worth Every Minute

00:42:44 - The Justest Vigilante

00:45:55 - Most Worksmart Drama

00:55:41 - The Squishiest Drama

01:02:35 - I Will Go Down With This Ship

01:06:22 - Fantastic First Halves, Stupid Seconds

01:16:01 - We’re Still Doing This, Dramaland?

01:21:31 - Drama With an Identity Crisis

01:23:28 - Most Bizarre Treatment of Disability

01:31:03 - Most Difficult to Finish (But We Did)

01:33:29 - Biggest Waste of Starpower

01:36:30 - Best Action Woman

01:39:06 - Best Person Pretending to Be Another Person

01:42:15 - 1 Actor, 2 Dramas: The Quickfire Round

01:47:30 - Busiest Bee Award

01:48:37 - !!SECRET AWARD!!

01:49:45 - Most Electric Adversarial Banmal

01:54:44 - Most Memorable Side Character

01:56:59 - Best 주인공 (Main Character) Face

01:58:17 - Most Manhwa Face

02:00:33 - Most Viral Moment

02:00:56 - Baby Who Grew the Most

02:02:53 - Unni Who Never Ages

LINKS:

• Our Spotify playlist for Best OSTs of 2021
• Paroma's video essay on My Roommate is a Gumiho: Her Supernatural Boyfriend Is Toxic and Dangerous
• Our Goguma Awards blog post listing the winners

DON'T MISS:

Episode 121: Year End Yak Part 1 (Trends)

Episode 123: Year End Yak Part 3 (TBR 17 Jan '22)

THANK YOU to our beloved patrons for another year of helping us light the lanterns to sail our ship!

Grab your copy of our free 2021 K-drama Tracker to see how many dramas you finished and dropped last year!

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Dramas Over Flowers is part of the Frolic Podcast Network.

This episode was edited by Saya.

Anisa, Paroma and Anisa's sister Zaynab talk about A Time Called You, remake of hit Taiwanese drama Someday or One Day, how it compares to the original, and the eternal question of the adaptation: why?

Catch our spoiler review of Someday or One Day next week!

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TIMESTAMP:

0:00 General thoughts on A Time Called You

31:00 SPOILERS for both the original and the remake

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Episode 135: Extraordinary Attorney Woo Spoiled Yak

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Our love for Extraordinary Attorney Woo is as deep as our dislike of Kwon Min-woo is high. Anisa and Paroma talk about all that has happened in the first half of this excellent show about a rookie autistic lawyer who learns how the law really works while making new friends, battling workplace discrimination, and entering true adulthood.

Don't forget to tell us which shows you've decided to pick up! DM on Insta or Twitter!

TIMESTAMP:

00:00 - Non-spoilery discussion

16:46 - SPOILER segment starts

LINKS WE MENTIONED:

Anisa's first impressions of episode 1-4 of Extraordinary Attorney Woo.

MORE EPISODES YOU'LL LIKE:

Episode 132: Our latest long yak

Episode 129: Our half way thoughts on My Liberation Notes

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Dramas Over Flowers is part of the Frolic Podcast Network.

Saya, Anisa and Paroma talk about timey-wimey dramas Reset, Again My Life and Legally Romance, with digressions on binging C-dramas, ideal episode lengths (again), and why K-dramas are still doing romance better.

Don't forget to tell us what you're watching and what you think we're missing out on! DM on Insta or Twitter!

TIMESTAMP:

00:01:05 - We tease a special future episode on Boys Over Flowers!

00:02:38 - Miracle: first impressions and comparisons to K-pop novels

00:10:02 - Time loop dramas: Reset (C) vs. One More Time (K)

00:15:00 - Again My Life: ending thoughts *SPOILERS*

00:34:01 - Legally Romance (C-drama)

00:38:16 - K-dramas as "a safe playground for women's imagination". Side rant on OTP emotional damage inflicted by multi-season American shows.

LINKS:

Anja's blog post on Kiss Sixth Sense, feat. Legally Romance

Kfangurl's review of Reset

Paroma's video essay: Alchemy of Souls Is Beating Chinese Fantasy Historical Dramas in Their Own Game (video)

Anisa's recap of Ms Marvel Episode 1

MORE EPISODES YOU SHOULDN'T MISS:

Episode 130: Cross Fire is the best time-slip, gaming Chinese drama: Can Saya convince Paroma to watch?

Episode 131: Author of K-Pop Revolution, Stephan Lee talks about the K-Pop industry

THANK YOU to our beloved patrons for supporting us as we head into our SIXTH year! I can't believe we've all been together this long! ❤︎

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Dramas Over Flowers is part of the Frolic Podcast Network.

This month, we have the return of the wooly mammoth! We’ve had more reasonably sized yaks lately, but we had a lot of dramas to talk about when we sat down to record this, so settle in for a long one. This yak is premiere-heavy—we discuss our first impressions of a LOT of shows, as well as some ongoing and final thoughts on other dramas.

Time Stamps:

00:02:37 Monthly Magazine Home

00:10:57 Nevertheless

00:18:35 Voice 4

00:26:09 At a Distance, Spring is Green

00:33:50 So Not Worth It

00:45:44 Doom at Your Service

00:59:18 Mad for Each Other

01:09:44 Imitation

01:19:23 Move to Heaven

01:24:49 Saya watches Vincenzo alone

01:28:30 Hospital Playlist 2

01:48:01 Joke of the Yak

Find links and extended show notes here. 

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Dramas Over Flowers is part of the Frolic podcast network. Find more podcasts you’ll love at frolic.media/podcasts.

This episode was edited by Anisa.

Saya and Anisa talk about 8(!) dramas, including writer Park Hre-ryun's newest Castaway Diva, gorgeous romance melodrama Call it Love, and the actually perfect Perfect Marriage Revenge. Lots of time travel, revenge and contract relationships in this one, so you know we're both happy campers.

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TIMESTAMPS:

00:01:00 Castaway Diva

00:12:24 Spoilers for Castaway 1-4

00:21:38 Daily Dose of Sunshine

00:31:09 Twinkling Watermelon

00:46:39 Vigilante

00:56:59 Call it Love

01:11:06 Nine: Nine Times Time Travel

01:20:43 A very long Park Hyung-shik detour

01:26:46 The Real has Come

01:35:16 Perfect Marriage Revenge

LEAVE US A REVIEW:

Apple podcasts | Spotify | Audible!

MORE EPISODES YOU'LL LIKE:

Episode 163: A Long Yak on Destined with You, My Lovely Liar and Titanic

Episode 160: 6th Anniversary Mailbag Special

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Kick back with us on a diatribe filled episode where we talk about women written by men, unearned forgiveness, and the ethics of love potions.

Tell us your thoughts in a voice note here: <Recording Page>

LINK:

Listen to the trailer of The Broadside (new podcast hosted by Anisa)

TIMESTAMP:

00:09:00 - Titanic (Spoilers)

00:19:00 - Women written by men (and also, Dev Anand's C.I.D.)

00:28:00 - My Lovely Liar (Spoilers)

01:14:00 - Destined With You (Spoilers up to episode 6)

MORE EPISODES YOU'LL LIKE:

Episode 159: Listen to our first impressions of My Lovely Liar here

Episode 160: ICYMI listen to our anniversary mailbag episode

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Anisa and Paroma have a little yak about some new dramas we've sampled, and others we've just barely tasted.

Leave us your COMMENTS here.

TIMESTAMPS:

00:02:04 Love Your Enemy

00:16:39 Mr Plankton

00:21:22 When the Phone Rings

00:34:37 Face Me

00:49:29 Tell Me that You Love Me

00:58:01 The Trunk speculation

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MORE EPISODES YOU MAY LIKE:

Episode:

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Music is "Feels Like Summer" by Staffan Carlen and "Fast Forward, Pause" by Rebecca Mardal.

The Year-End Yak is here! Or Part 1 anyway, where we talk about what K-dramas did this year, and how we felt about them. Goguma Awards coming in Part 2!

Leave us your thoughts in a voice note here: <Recording Page>

LINKS MENTIONED:

Paroma's excellent 2023 Wrap for Film Companion

Paroma's My Demon Halfway Review (Spoilers)

K-drama Research Institute's video essay We Need to Talk About Netflix K-dramas

Saya and Paroma's new BTS YouTube Channel

Jae-Ha Kim's article Rest in Peace, Lee Sun-kyun

TIMESTAMP:

00:04:17 2023 K-drama trends

00:50:07 Saya, Anisa and Paroma's personal year in dramas

01:25:16 Notable podcast moments!

1:37:06 And some heartbreak.

LEAVE US A REVIEW:

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MORE EPISODES YOU'LL LIKE:

2022 in Dramaland: The Year-End Yak, Part 1 (Trends + Gogumas)

Perfect Marriage Revenge Spoiler Review

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Music: "La Sortie Francaise" by Smartface and "Woke Up" by Cushy

In this episode we discuss the many popular re-unions of famous romantic and non-romantic actor couples. We ask why these re-unions happen, do they ever achieve the popularity of the original project, and why is there often a distinct shift in genres? (You can watch the video version of this episode at the link below).

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LINKS MENTIONED:

Watch the livestream on YouTube HERE.

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Episode 178: No Gain No Love (first half spoiler discussion)

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Paroma is joined by Deepanjana in a mission to express their deep feelings about No Gain No Love without spoiling every single scene in the drama. It was a challenge. This episode was recorded after the first 6 out of 12 episodes had aired.

You can hunt down today's guest @/dpanjana on Threads and Instagram.

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TIMESTAMP:

9:45 - Actual discussion starts

51:22 - Warning for spoilers

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Episode 155: Bora! Deborah Spoiled Yak

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We bring you another long yak this months where we talk about two new dramas and final thoughts on three completed ones.

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LINKS MENTIONED:

The anime Paroma mentioned: How A Realist Hero Rebuilt the Kingdom (on Netflix)

TIMESTAMP:

(No spoilers = NS)

00:00:40 - My Lovely Liar (NS)

00:21:08 - Behind Your Touch (Ep 1 Spoilers)

00:42:08 - Maturity of social discussion

00:46:06 - See You In My 19th Life (Final Thoughts/NS)

01:08:54 - ... 19th Life (Ending Spoilers)

01:22:15 - Little Women (NS)

01:35:13 - Fruits Baskets (NS) & Final Patter

MORE EPISODES YOU'LL LIKE:

Episode X: LINK

Episode Y: LINK

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Dramas Over Flowers is part of the Frolic Podcast Network.

The first part of our spoiler discussion of Extraordinary Attorney Woo (season 1). We also covered our early impressions of the show on episode 133.

Don't forget to tell us which shows you've decided to pick up! DM on Insta or Twitter!

LINKS MENTIONED:

The interview with writer & director of EAW (translated by Anisa)

Park Eun-bin answers 10 questions about EAW (video)

Redeemed for the wrong sin: Paroma's post on Kwon Min-woo

Interesting recent article Saya came across: ‘A lot fell into place’: the adults who discovered they were autistic – after their child was diagnosed

MORE EPISODES YOU'LL LIKE:

Episode 133: First Impressions eps 1-8

Episode 134: Lee Min-ki (actor spotlight)

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This episode was edited by Saya (assisted by Paroma)

Dramas Over Flowers is part of the Frolic Podcast Network.

Have the perfection of drama story lines ever made it hard for you to accept reality? It has for us, and that's what we are discussing on this episode.

This is actually a recording from a livestream we did last year during the K-Pop Social Night Conference, so if you notice that the audio is funky, don't blame us, blame the internet. Terrible stuff. Hee.

In this Spoiled Yak, Anisa and Paroma review Dr. Cha and talk about why dramas about a middle-aged woman getting a new lease on life are so enjoyable - and mention some other favorites in this genre.

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TIME STAMPS:

00:00:00 Dr. Cha Spoiler Review

01:03:40 A wild Kwon Min-woo appears! (Yes, this is an Extraordinary Attorney Woo reference)

01:14:40 Other dramas in this genre we loved!

01:15:24 Twenty Again

01:19:00 Mystery Queen

01:22:42 SKY Castle

01:24:35 18 Again

01:25:54 And a lightning round: Romance is a Bonus Book, Perfume, Hello, Me!, Search: WWW, Mine, Go Back Couple, Familiar Wife

MORE EPISODES YOU'LL LIKE:

Episode 155: Bora! Deborah Spoiled Yak

Episode 148: Love to Hate You Spoiler Review

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In this second part of our conversation about celebrity, authenticity and Korean variety, we talk about the miracle of entertainment that is Youth MT, and the lovely, warm experience of watching In the Soop: Friendcation. (And its 2017 ajusshi predecessor, Dragon Club.) Spoiler warning: You may want to catch a few episodes of Youth MT before you listen, because we discuss specific scenes—and also because it is SO GOOD.

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LINKS MENTIONED:

BTS's Jin and Suga interview on You Quiz

Saya's essay about In the Soop: Friendcation

Watch Episode 1 of Dragon Club

MORE EPISODES YOU'LL LIKE:

Episode 139: BTS: The Cost of Authenticity

Episode 72: Female-led Variety Shows

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Saya rewatched Goblin for the dozenth time and pulled Paroma into a discussion of our deep love for a story that also has so many elements we feel conflicted on. Dive in with your SPOILER hats on.

Also, don't forget to tell us which shows you've decided to pick up! DM on Insta or Twitter! Or leave a comment on our blog for this episode!

Paroma's Video Essay on Toxic 1000 year old Gumihos: CLICK

MORE EPISODES YOU'LL LIKE:

Episode 126: The Long Yak

Episode 122: Our 2021 Annual Awards

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Here are our final thoughts and theories on the one drama all three of us watched with equal fervour.

Joining us for this final journey into the world of Piggyback Sunjae and Run are friends of the podcast, Hanah and Sarah.

Leave us your thoughts in a voice note here: <Recording Page>

LINKS MENTIONED:

Paroma's video on time traveling Im Sol: Link

TIMESTAMP:

0:05:14 - Audience response

0:08:35 - Production budget

0:12:25 - Heart eyes for the drama

0:14:19 - Taesung vs the serial killer

0:18:31 - Sunjae remembering the alternate timelines

0:27:41 - Sol driving the story action

0:37:00 - On how Sunjae died in timeline 1

0:42:15 - Sol’s brother & best friend

0:45:29 - Erasing Sol’s disability struggles

0:50:22 - Fate demands a life

0:59:05 - 33yo Sol falling for a teen

1:10:54 - Only one Im Sol got a happy ending

1:22:43 - Grandma has the best line about memories

1:26:51 - Sunjae’s choice & final thoughts

Running list of dramas mentioned:

W: Two worlds

Her Private Life

Familiar wife

Hometown CCC

Will Love In Spring (CDrama)

Marry My Husband

Nine: Nine Times Travel

Someday Or One Day

Go Back Spouses

Rooftop Prince

Dark (German thriller)

Goblin

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Episode 172: Lovely Runner halfway discussion

Episode 173: Growing out of fandoms

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In this episode, we talk about how K-dramas became a highly profitable export long before the entry of streaming platforms in the mid 2010s. This is a story of a nation's economic crisis, the creation of a unique opportunity, and a two decade long struggle for air wave supremacy in East Asia.

Leave us your thoughts in a voice note here: <Recording Page>

TIMELINE OF DRAMAS MENTIONED:

1997 IMF crisis

1997 What is love all about (NBC)

2000 Autumn In My Heart (KBS)

2002 Winter Sonata (KBS)

2007 The Legend (MBC)

2013 My Love From the Star (SBS)

2016 Descendants of the Sun (KBS)

2016 Signal (tvN)

2016 Hwayugi (Korean Odyssey) (tvN)

2016 THAAD missile crisis/China bans K-ent

LINKS MENTIONED:

CedarBough Saeji's twitter thread on why South Korean academics rarely contribute to international journals.

Living document of sources here.

LIGHT READING 😌:

Korean Dramas Adopt Pre-Produced Format to Mixed Results (article)

The Reason SBS Missed Out on "Descendants of the Sun" and "Signal" (article)

Romantic blockbusters: the co-commissioning of Korean network-developed K-dramas as ‘Netflix originals’ (journal)

TIMESTAMP:

04:41 - How Kdramas came into existence

11:18 - How dramas used to be made

21:54 - Start of the digital age and entry of iQiyi

27:40 - Dramas begin to get expensive

31:32 - Watershed: Descendants of the Sun

34:40 - China bans Korean entertainment over THAAD

36:51 - Economics of terrestrial vs cable channels

47:12 - Netflix knocks (cliffhanger)

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Saya and Paroma pick apart Our Blooming Youth and pore over its bests and not-so-best things. Bests include: Park Hyung-shik and Jeon So-nee. Dissatisfactions include: plot lapses, villains with unconvincing motives.

Erratum: Saya's first Park Hyung-shik drama was Nine (2013).

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TIMESTAMP:

00:01:52 When fandom doesn't feel the way you do

00:07:43 Character development vs. plot

00:14:20 Unwinding the villains

00:23:56 Heir vs. King vs. Court

00:32:58 A Crown Prince needs his besties. ALL of them. And we need Myung-jin.

00:41:49 The writing of Jae-yi

00:52:51 Born to rule?

01:02:09 Other tortured crown prince dramas

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Episode 138: The Red Sleeve: A king's favourite concubine who belonged to herself

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November brings a lot of new dramas to sample. Apple TV+ releases Dr Brain and Netflix brings you another short, hellish series by the director of Train to Busan - Hellbound. We also talk about the conversation around Kim Seon-ho in the last month and our personal belief that it should never have been a public discourse.

LINKS:

Wish Anisa luck on her job as a podcast producer @anisakhalifa_

Listen to Anisa on US national radio representing DOF!

TIMESTAMPS:

00:05:08 Kim Seon-ho and Internet discourse

NOVEMBER DRAMAS

00:15:30 Melancholia

00:25:40 Dr. Brain

00:30:23 Happiness

00:36:59 Let Me Be Your Knight

00:41:42 Idol: the Coup

00:45:49 Secret Royal Investigator & Joy

00:50:07 Now, We Are Breaking Up

00:59:33The Red Cuff Sleeve

01:08:45 School 2021

01:17:23 Hellbound

01:21:22 One Ordinary Day

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Just Saya popping in to share her thoughts on an assortment of dramas: a mixture of bright and dark, exquisite and questionable, therapeutic and aggravating. The tl;dl (?) being: My Demon is darkbright and exquisite, Death's Game is just dark, Park's Marriage Contract is bright and aggravating, and Welcome to Samdal-ri is therapeutic, bright, and funnier than it should be.

Content warning for discussion of suicide in Death's Game and Welcome to Samdal-ri. Take care and skip if needed by using the timestamps below.

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LINKS MENTIONED:

An interview with a haenyeo female diver

Women of the Sea: Diving with the Haenyeo of Jeju

Paroma's latest video essays:

Twinkling Watermelon never explains its time travel & here's why we don't care

Bonus: My Demon Halfway Review (Spoilers): Hey! Song Kang can do romance!

TIMESTAMP:

00:00:29 My Demon 1-4

00:19:57 Death's Game Part 1

00:32:28 Death's Game Spoiler section

00:35:33 The Story of Park's Marriage Contract 1-8 (bit spoilery but who cares)

00:49:00 Welcome to Samdal-ri 1-6

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Episode 146: 2022 in Dramaland: Our Year In Dramas (Year-End Yak) - enjoy a throwback while we work on the new one!

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Welcome back to our monthly What's Up in Dramaland. Let's talk about what dramas we're adding to our watchlist this February?

Don't forget to tell us which shows you've decided to pick up! DM on Insta or Twitter! Or leave a comment on our blog for this episode!

TIMESTAMP:

00:53 - Forecasting Love and Weather

11:42 - 2521

15:37 - Crazy Love

18:12 - Grid

25:48 - Thirty-Nine

32:32 - A Business Proposal

37:36 - Juvenile Justice

43:18 - Kill Heel

44:53 - Military Prosecutor

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This episode was edited by Paroma and Saya.

If you've missed Park Hyung-sik in a sageuk or if you have a fondness for tortured Crown Princes, we have the drama for you.

As a pleasant surprise, you also get a capable heroine with her own heroine arc in the story. As Saya puts it, Jeon So-nee might actual be the real protagonist of this show!

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This episode was edited by Paroma

Dramas Over Flowers is part of the Frolic Podcast Network.

Some announcements about upcoming events, as well as some boring administrative stuff about Patreon and episode names (you wouldn't know it by how much we giggle though).

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See you in the next Yak of miscellaneous description, and thanks to all our listeners & patrons as always!