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05 Feb 2022What CTOs Say vs. What Developers Hear w/ DataStax's Shankar Ramaswamy00:35:37

Anyone who’s been in a rapidly scaling company with an ever-expanding engineering team knows that communication is never as simple as it seems.

That’s why we were so excited when Shankar Ramaswamy decided to sit down with Dev Interrupted's Conor Bronsdon.

Shankar is a veteran leader in the engineering space, having helped recruit, build and guide developer teams at companies like Amazon, eBay, Paypal and Google - where before leaving he managed a team of 300+ people.

Now the Head of Engineering at Datastax, Shankar took the time to talk to us about some of the practical lessons he’s learned managing teams of several hundred people, and why something he calls the “intent perception gap” is so tricky for managers to get right.

We also took the time to talk about Shankar’s views on the future of cloud computing, what healthy conflict looks like at unicorn companies and why you might want to rethink your single-vendor strategy.

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12 Feb 2022How a $725M VC Judges Your Engineering Team w/ Redpoint Ventures' Jason Warner00:46:43

How does a former-CTO-turned-VC assess companies now that they're the one with the money? What do they look for - and expect to find - in a company’s engineering team?

Enter Jason Warner on the Dev Interrupted stage.

Jason is the most unique of investors: He made the jump from being a CTO to managing his own $725M fund at Redpoint Ventures. After leading GitHub to one of the best exits in the history of Silicon Valley, Jason is now dedicating his full time to picking the tech, teams and products he thinks will define the next decade and beyond.

In this freewheeling conversation, we cover everything from Jason’s start in tech carrying boxes while interning at IBM, his tenure as GitHub’s CTO, the reason full stack engineers may be a dying breed and why Redpoint Ventures avoids “yoloing” investments, even if it’s a lucrative practice.

 We hope you enjoy the conversation as much as we did.

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Repoint Ventures' website: https://www.redpoint.com/
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19 Feb 2022Why Imperfect Data Isn’t Just Bad, It’s Harmful w/ Treeverse’s Einat Orr00:42:19

Data junkies rejoice, this is the episode for you. 

On this week’s episode of Dev Interrupted, Einat Orr, co-founder and CEO of Treeverse, sits down with us to talk about the state of data… where it’s been, where it’s going and why having bad data might be worse than having no data at all.

Einat's path to becoming a CEO is different from many of the folks who come on the podcast. After graduating with a PhD in mathematics, she spent much of her career as a CTO due to her extraordinary technical expertise. But things changed when Einat and her cofounder asked themselves a simple question: if code has Git, why doesn’t data have a “Git-equivalent”? 

Their exploration of this question inspired Treeverse. In a technical deepdive, Einat walks Dev Interrupted’s executive producer Conor Bronsdon through the founding story of Treeverse, why data needs its own version of Git, the specifics of data warehouses & data versioning, and what the future of data storage looks like. 

Put on your thinking caps and enjoy!

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26 Feb 2022What If You Don't Want To Be a Developer Anymore? w/ CTO Connection's Peter Bell00:42:09

It used to be that in order to make your parents proud you had to go into management. Then along came the self-contained IC career path. Today, this dual-track career path remains the unchallenged standard of companies everywhere.

Or does it?

Peter Bell, the founder and CTO of CTO Connection, wants developers everywhere to know that there are several dev adjacent career paths. From product to dev advocate to sales engineer, Peter has the insights you need if you’ve ever considered switching up your career while utilizing your hard-earned skills as a developer. 

If you're an engineering leader, then Peter’s advice on the importance of building a community at your company is not to be missed. Through his work with CTO Connection, engineering leaders everywhere have found a community to call home - and a resource to leverage. In fact, CTO Connection bills itself as the “Stack Overflow for managers.” 

Peter is a gifted speaker and presenter, you won’t want to miss this episode!

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CTO Connection website: https://www.ctoconnection.com/

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05 Mar 2022How to Reclaim Your Dev Team’s Focus w/ Ambassador Labs' Katie Wilde00:40:38

Hate interruptions? Ever feel like you’ve lost your ability to focus on coding? 

Katie Wilde, VP of Engineering at Ambassador Labs, knows your pain and she’s on a crusade to help devs everywhere reclaim their focus. 

Spoiler: She's got a message for managers who can’t meet with devs whenever they want: “Don’t like it? Well, suck it up.”

The thing about productivity is, you can’t have it both ways. You can either protect your devs’ ability to focus by providing them meaningful time for creativity or you can call them into meetings all day long for constant feedback - but you can’t have both. 

These concepts don’t have to be at odds with each other, though. On this week’s episode of Dev Interrupted, Katie details exactly what managers can do to foster a harmonious, productive environment between themselves and their devs. She also talks about the importance of “shifting left,” the dangers of doing it too quickly, and why “hiring great people and getting out of their way” may not be a good mantra.

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12 Mar 2022What Devs Need To Teach CEOs About AI w/ Lexion’s Emad Elwany00:49:36

For decades Artificial Intelligence has been a focus of best-selling science fiction authors and an antagonist for blockbuster Hollywood movies. But AI is no longer relegated to the realm of science fiction, it inhabits the world around us. From the biggest enterprise companies to plucky startups, businesses everywhere are building and deploying AI at incredible speed. 

In fact, open source allows anyone with a laptop to build impressively good AI models in a day.

But for all the recent advances in AI, what are its limitations? And if you are a developer or business leader, what use cases can AI solve for your company? 

In this week’s episode of Dev Interrupted, Emad Elwany, CTO and Co-founder of Lexion, walks us through the practical realities of AI in today’s world and how its constraints apply to your business. He also discusses the biggest breakthroughs in AI, how to build machine learning models that actually solve a business need and why it’s almost impossible to retrofit AI once it’s already built. 

Whether you are a business leader who is considering implementing AI at their company, a consumer curious about how AI impacts your daily life or a researcher wanting to understand how to better deploy AI outside of the lab - this episode has got something for you!

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19 Mar 2022Is Your Dev Team TOO Big to Succeed? w/ SAIC’s Bob Ritchie00:44:25

Modern problems require modern solutions, right? 

The problem is, it’s becoming increasingly difficult to understand what solutions are required for a given problem and even harder to task a team with finding them. 

That’s why Bob Ritchie, VP of Software at SAIC, thinks the top-down management model is dead. To replace it, Bob is championing a “team of teams” model that provides his developers with far more autonomy - so much, in fact, that they can even self-elect their leaders. 

On this week’s episode of Dev Interrupted, Bob discusses the challenges of software development in an increasingly dynamic environment, why he believes developers should be no further than 4 steps away from their CEO and the historical challenges of connecting results in Silicon Valley to those in the federal government. 

Who would've expected a federal government tech integrator (Science Applications International Corporation), to be on the leading edge of developer autonomy?

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SAIC is hiring: https://jobs.saic.com/
Bob's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bob-ritchie-896a654/
What Bob is reading: Drive: The Surprising Truth About What Motivates Us

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26 Mar 2022What The Next 20 Million Devs Want w/ Tiff in Tech & Stereotype Breakers' Masha Zvereva00:40:45

The world is shortly going to need another 20 million developers  and with over 1,000 engineering leaders joining us for INTERACT on April 7th, there’s no better time to talk to two people who have captured the minds of millions of developers - and will be featured at INTERACT - Tiffany Janzen and Masha Zvereva.

In addition to their own tech careers, both women have become prominent voices in the dev community, Tiffany is most well-known for her Tiff in Tech Youtube channel and Masha for her company Stereotype Breakers.

Tiff and Masha spend their time connecting, communicating and inspiring the next generation of devs. They’re the ideal experts to dive deep on how Gen Z devs think and what they want.

That’s why we were so happy when they agreed to sit down for an episode of Dev Interrupted to give us some incredible insights on what it’s going to take to recruit, hire and retain the millions of new developers who are joining the workforce. 

If you want to join Tiffany and Masha at INTERACT on April 7th, it’s easy: Just register at https://devinterrupted.com/event/interact/

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Masha Zvereva, Stereotype Breakers


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02 Apr 2022How Promotions Ruin Dev Careers w/ Shopify's Dir. of Engineering James Stanier00:45:00

In so many professions, the reward for exceptional work is a promotion to management. Unfortunately, for developers whose programming gets them singled out for promotion, the skills to manage a team have nothing to do with the work that got them recognized in the first place.

James Stanier, Director of Engineering at Shopify, understands the pitfalls of being promoted from an IC to an engineering manager, and began writing as a way to think through the mistakes he himself was making. 

Today, James is an accomplished author; his first book Become An Effective Software Engineering Manager debuted in 2020, and his second book Effective Remote Work was published earlier this year.   

On this week’s episode of Dev Interrupted, James talks about how developers can prepare themselves for a role in management, or alternatively, why they should avoid a career in management altogether. He also discusses why Shopify loves remote pair programming, how to find your voice as a developer and why writing a book can be a spiritual experience. 

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09 Apr 2022How to Fix Tech's Mentorship Problem w/ Amex's VP of Technology, Sarvenaz Myslicki00:55:16

If you looked up the term “firing on all cylinders” in the dictionary, I’m fairly confident there would be a picture of Sarvenaz Myslicki next to it.

A next-gen leader who earned the role of VP of Technology at American Express by the age of 30, Savernaz is a published author, an in-demand thought-leader on mentorship and has one of the largest followings on programmer TikTok.

Our favorite thing about Sarvenaz, though, is that all her work is aspirational but radically inclusive. She tailors her message, content and guidance based on wherever someone is in their professional journey – even if they’re just tinkering with code in a junior high classroom.

Sarvenaz joined us and 1700 other engineering leaders for an incredible live conversation at our INTERACT conference about the real trial and errors that have led to her role at Amex, as well as the beliefs, mindset and rituals that have allowed her to become a mentor for developers she’s never met.

We hope you enjoy this discussion as much as we did.

AMEX is hiring: americanexpress.com/techcareers
Sarvenaz's TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@sarvenazm
What Sarvenaz is reading: Bury My Heart at Conference Room B: The Unbeatable Impact of Truly Committed Managers

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16 Apr 2022The Subversive Structure of the World's Best-Performing Dev Teams w/ A Radical Enterprise Author Matt K. Parker00:55:20

You ever get the feeling that the way most companies are set up doesn’t really make sense?

That the passion you have for coding and tech gets sucked out when you do it for a business, instead of it being amplified?

Matt K. Parker had that realization… hard.

A third-generation programmer, Matt’s epiphany that there was something wrong with the way the majority of the world sets up its teams and workplaces led him on a journey to explore the way the world’s best companies operate.

After diving into case studies, academic research and leveraging his own professional experience, Matt concluded that the most productive companies all had one thing in common: They were radical.

Radical in how they structure their employees. Radical in how they treat their employees. Radical in how they empower their employees.

Fortunately for us, Matt stopped by Dev Interrupted to share some conclusions from his new book “A Radical Enterprise: Pioneering the Future of High-Performing Organizations.”

One of our favorite recordings to date, this is your ticket if you’re looking for some inspiration on how to increase productivity while decreasing BS.

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23 Apr 2022Why Great Money Doesn’t Retain Great Devs w/ Stack Overflow, DataStax & Reprise00:47:12

What do the teams at Stack Overflow, DataStax and Reprise have in common?

First, they’ve all built amazing organizations powered by amazing developers. 

Second, they’ve managed to build and retain these amazing developers in an ultra-competitive hiring market.

Third, they all took time at our recent INTERACT conference to discuss how they created engineering organizations that are productive, successful and - best of all - happy.

It’s a rare treat to have this many amazing minds on one live panel and we couldn’t be more excited to share their insights, wisdom and advice to the community at large.

Quick note, if you notice a tiny fluctuation in the audio quality for each speaker, it’s because this was recorded live at INTERACT.

Enjoy!

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30 Apr 2022Why 1 Good UX Is Worth 5 Engineers w/ Toast's Director of Engineering Brad Pielech00:47:52

Few companies have mastered making products consumers actually want to use like Toast.

A $30 billion giant in the tech-food business, Toast faced their worst case scenario during the pandemic when the restaurants at the heart of their business were all forced to shut down.

Toast rose like a phoenix to become one of the best success stories of pivoting during the pandemic by making users love using their food delivery systems.

To understand how Toast became one of the great success stories of the last 2 years, we spoke to Brad Pielech, the company’s Director of Engineering.

An amazing conversation that’s informed how we think about product at LinearB, Brad made a flawless case for the importance of UX - and why the alliance between UX and devs at Toast produced a market-beating pivot that took the company from unicorn to brink of collapse and back again. 

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07 May 2022Stupid Things Orgs Do That Kill Productivity | A Conversation With Netflix, FloSports & Refactoring.club00:51:02

At LinearB, we like to think we spend all our time figuring out how to unlock developer potential. To find ways to let devs do more of the work they love and reduce the amount of time they spend dealing with needless hurdles, idling and churn.

We’re not the only ones thinking about how to do this, though. At our recent INTERACT panel, we assembled amazing engineering leaders from Netflix, FloSports and the Refactoring.club newsletter to give us their inside knowledge on how they increase productivity and promote creativity in their own organizations.

One of the highlights of our INTERACT conference, this panel conversation is filled with real wisdom and takeaways we hope you can apply to your own teams the moment it’s over. 

Enjoy - and don't forget to fill out our very first listener survey! 

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14 May 2022Why Engineers Make the Best Entrepreneurs w/ Drata's Co-founder & CTO Daniel Marashlian00:56:52

There are so many books, videos and workshops on starting your own company. The problem for anyone listening to this podcast is that none of them come from the perspective of a developer.

That’s why we were so excited that the founder & CTO of Drata, Daniel Marashlian – who has previously founded eight companies before hitting a billion-dollar valuation with Drata – was open to talking about what it’s like to build a company from a coder’s perspective.

From the signs you’re an entrepreneur at heart, to filling out your skills gap to leaning in to the edge you have with your background, this episode of Dev Interrupted is essential listening for anyone who can code - or anyone who has dreamed of founding their own company. 

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21 May 2022The 3 Conversations That Improve Developers' Lives w/ Reprise's Jennie MacDougall00:42:59

If you’re doing your job right, most of your time and your team’s time should be spent actually building things. That means conversations should be reserved to the very important ones.

In our latest Dev Interrupted episode, Reprise’s Director of Engineering Jennie MacDougall looks back on the most useful conversation she has ever had with her devs that are also the ones she encourages them to have with others.

From the most important conversation when evaluating a prospective dev to the question that actually keeps engineers motivated and invested, this was an incredible download of things I started doing right after the recording was finished.


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28 May 2022The Quest to Build the Perfect Bot w/ Ubisoft's Joshua Romoff00:34:06

Almost every single company we talk to focuses on having their engineering teams solve problems.

This is why we jumped at the opportunity to talk to Joshua Romoff from Ubisoft.

Why? The goal of gaming companies isn’t so much to solve problems, but to enrich their customers’ lives.

That’s a unique, powerful change in how to think about building, developing and shipping features. Something that required Ubisoft to bring in Research Scientists like Joshua to figure out just what it is customers engage with in their games and how to give them more of it using AI.

Whether or not you're a gamer, this is a fascinating conversation on how every engineering team should think about building self-improving features.

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04 Jun 2022The 2 Things You Ask Your Team When You Pass $1B w/ Hippo’s VP of Engineering00:45:07

When you think of a billion-dollar tech company, you probably imagine rooms full of monitors with dashboards and non-stop data streams.

Well, after talking to Hippo - a certified unicorn and newly minted giant in the insurance industry - we realized this couldn’t be further from the truth.

Mike Gordon, VP of Engineering at Hippo, sat down with Dev Interrupted to chat about what it’s actually like to run the dev teams powering a company that just passed a $1 billion valuation.

His insights about what actually matters to him were amazing for how simple, focused and – brilliant – they are.

A great conversation on what’s important to a company re-writing the rules of insurance, Mike Gordon is by far one of the most thoughtful-yet-pragmatic minds we’ve had on yet.

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Hippo is hiring:
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11 Jun 2022Getting the Respect Your Work Deserves: A Live Workshop w/ Engineering Coach Lena Reinhard00:59:39

The last thing anyone who does great work should be doing is having to take time out from doing great work to promote it to their higher-ups. Unfortunately, until the person you report to achieves omnipotence, you’re going to have to make sure their perception of your work lines up with the quality.

In fact, when we asked our community what issue they would want professional coaching on, it was this: How to improve the impression of your work.

With the help of the great Lena Reinhard, engineering & executive coach, we’re giving a practical solution to this problem.

Designed as a real-time workshop where you should be thinking about the questions and answering them yourself, this was a game-changing conversation for us and hopefully a game-changing way for your work to get the respect it deserves.

Access the engineering benchmarks report here: http://linearb.io/benchmarks/

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15 Jun 2022Labs: What Do Elite Dev Teams Look Like? w/ Ori Keren, Co-Founder & CEO of LinearB00:50:19

In an industry that has trouble looking beyond the next sprint, it’s good to know there are very smart people researching the conscious and unconscious pain points keeping devs from focusing on what they actually want to do: code.

In our new series LinearB Labs we’ll be looking at the most interesting research on how devs work, communicate and code.

The best way to start should be understanding what is actually a well-performing engineering org versus one that’s struggling. That’s why we’re so excited to have Ori Keren, co-founder of LinearB, as our first guest to discuss the results of the first-ever “Engineering Benchmarks Report.”

The product of comprehensively analyzing the work of almost 2,000 dev teams, “The 2022 Engineering Benchmarks Report” is the first EVER look at what performance metrics make engineering orgs elite, average or underwhelming.

We hope you enjoy this conversation as much as we did and that you’re able to find out where your dev team ranks as well as concrete ways to improve.

Access the engineering benchmarks report here: http://linearb.io/benchmarks/

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18 Jun 2022The Best Solution to Burnout We’ve Ever Heard | A Conversation With Slack, Netlify & Ambassador Labs00:46:47

With registration for our free October Interact conference now open, we wanted you to hear one of our favorite sessions from this past April’s Interact.

Featuring the best minds from Slack, Netlify and Ambassador Labs, our session on Inspiring Engineering Leaders & Driving Developer Creativity turned into one of the best conversations we’ve ever heard on topics like dev toil, dev focus and dev burnout.

This is a great preview of the type of content we’re working on for our conference in October, and this panel completely made us rethink how we approach burnout at LinearB.

If you like it as much as we do, be sure to sign up for October’s free, virtual Interact conference at: https://devinterrupted.com/event/interact/

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25 Jun 2022Creating a Better CTO Playbook w/ Dama Financial's CTO Zach Goldberg00:52:48
Fact: There are guidebooks for everything in programming except for actually leading, managing and inspiring programmers.

That’s why I was so happy to have my friend Zach Goldberg on the podcast.

Someone who has made learning and self-improvement a core pillar of his professional and personal life, Zach Goldberg is someone who I turn to when I need to know who smart CTOs are turning to.

In this great conversation, Zach talks about the most important things he’s learned in separating signal from noise in the realm of engineering leadership. He also provides some amazing guidance on who you should be listening to (when you’re not listening to us). Enjoy.

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Zach's reading list: http://go.zachgoldberg.com/readinglist

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02 Jul 2022How to Train Devs to Disrupt Industries w/ Lessen's CTO Chris Bee00:40:31

Not all dev orgs work in all situations. Especially if your dev org is looking to completely reshape and disrupt an entire industry.

That’s why we were so excited to talk to Chris Bee, CTO of Lessen.

Lessen is looking to change the way property owners hire vetted professionals for renovation, maintenance and turn services. That means so much of what their programmers are building hasn’t been built before.

Chris opened up about how the company trains and empowers developers to design and build things customers didn’t know they wanted. He also goes in depth about how to bring those new ideas to market when it can seem like the ground is shifting every minute.

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Lessen's website: https://www.lessen.com/
Chris' website: https://www.chrisbee.com/

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09 Jul 2022What a Healthy Relationship with Open Source Looks Like ft. GitLab's John Coghlan00:35:54

There’s an open secret about open source: Developers use it. Teams use it. Businesses use it. But no one really thinks about how they contribute to it.

That’s why we jumped at the chance to get a state-of-open-source discussion with Gitlab’s John Coghlan, Senior Manager of Developer Advocacy.

Someone who joined the open source community with the goal of making developers’ lives better, John came to the table with a wealth of insights into just how individual engineers leverage open source, how businesses leverage it and, most importantly, how to make our relationship with open source better - not just for you and me, but for the community as a whole.

We hope you find this candid conversation on how to be thinking about using open source in the right ways as empowering and insightful as we did!

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16 Jul 2022The Dangers of Shipping at All Costs w/ CEO & Cofounder of 33 Teams, Drew McManus00:48:38

In a field like engineering, to have a truly unique 30,000-feet view of the profession, you need someone with 30 years of experience in adapting, innovating and creating in the space.

That’s why we were so excited to talk to Drew McManus, CEO and Cofounder of 33 Teams.

An engineer who’s helped shape the formative years of Apple, Adobe and so many more companies you have on your phone right now, Drew McManus is now advising rapidly growing dev orgs across the world at 33 Teams.

Drew is an oracle (no pun intended) on how to see dev orgs as living organisms, identifying the structural, psychological and technological maladies keeping teams from becoming who they aspire to be.

In our conversation, we touch upon everything from tech debt, to unlocking creativity to the all-too-common danger of shipping at all costs.

If ever there was a way to download 30 years of engineering leadership in one hour, this is it.

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23 Jul 2022How a Trained Therapist Diagnoses Healthy Dev Teams w/ Engineer & Entrepreneur, Kelly Vaughn00:50:33

Not only is Kelly Vaughn one of the pioneers in building thought-leadership content for the developer community, she’s one of the rare programmers who comes to the craft with the background of a trained therapist.

From knowing what content devs need to grow to being able to recognize the cognitive-behavioral impacts of the developer experience, Kelly Vaughn is truly one of our most unique guests to date.

In our conversation, Kelly leveraged her background as a therapist to explore what dev orgs should be doing to recognize developers as unique human beings, with their own feelings, motivations and biases.

A discipline-crossing discussion, this pod is invaluable if you’re thinking about what a healthy dev team should look like as well as how to build one.

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Kelly's book recommendations: Crucial Conversations, The First 90 Days

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30 Jul 2022The Art of Letting Your Devs Step Up w/ Equinix’s Rajah Kalipatnapu00:24:32

Like every other team-based profession, engineering needs leaders. But identifying a true, tested and proven road for taking a programmer and putting them in a position of managing projects & priorities is still a work in progress.

That’s why I was so excited to speak with Rajah Kalipatnapu, Global Head of Product Engineering at Equinix. 

One of the most experienced minds in building world-class engineering orgs, Rajah credits his success with focusing on different ways to incrementally identify leaders and empower them to be the managers their business needs and their colleagues admire.

From his unique perspective on creating CEOs for features to dealing with beloved employees who can’t code up to the teams’ needs, Rajah’s theories on how and when to let your developers step up to the moment need to be heard.

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06 Aug 2022Why Devs Break Up with Their Bosses w/ Oliver Wyman's Carolyn Vo00:46:37

Everyone who manages a team would like to think that their employees admire them as individuals and as leaders. That you make an impact on those employees while they work under you and long after you end up moving to new companies and opportunities.

One such engineering leader who has mastered the mix of manager, friend and mentor is Carolyn Vo. A Partner and Head of Engineering at Oliver Wyman, Carolyn is one of engineering’s leading advocates on the benefits of creating a culture of approachability, tinkering and healthy levity. 

In fact, in our conversation, Carolyn makes a strong argument that without honing the art of approachable management, not only does productivity suffer, but engineers are consistently looking for the door.

One of our liveliest pods to date, we hope you can absorb Carolyn’s insights and energy no matter where you are on your leadership journey.

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13 Aug 2022Labs: Solving The Pull Request Problem w/ Continuous Merge00:40:51

Fact: The state of pull requests is broken and we finally have the data to prove it. In our latest LinearB Labs episode we reveal the information that has led us to the inevitable conclusion that pull requests have become a massive source of toil, bottlenecks and a huge barrier to shipping.

Better yet, two people who have been thinking about how to attack this dev workflow issue – Dan Lines and Ori Keren of LinearB – are ready to actually propose a solution: continuous merge.

The next step in CI/CD, continuous merge is the concept of creating lanes where pull requests can be merged based on their risk. Plain and simple, pull requests should not all be treated the same.

The first step in continuous merge proposed in the episode is the dev tool gitStream, which automates and optimizes merging pull requests based on risk and level of attention required.

A game-changing conversation, this episode is the first time you might hear about continuous merge but it certainly won’t be the last.

Learn about the power of Continuous Merge: gitstream.cm

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20 Aug 2022Stripe on Treating Dev Bandwidth as Your Most Valuable Resource w/ Stripe’s Head of Engineering, Smruti Patel00:48:44

The unofficial first rule of engineering: When the minds behind the world’s most valuable startup, Stripe, want to talk about making better dev orgs, you listen.

In this episode of Dev Interrupted, Stripe’s Head of Engineering Smruti Patel joined us to talk about the daily, weekly and yearly engineering decisions that have engineered the company’s meteoric success.

Smruti has a gift for making the logic behind make-or-break strategic decisions digestible for every engineer, regardless of where they are on the company ladder.

With a breadth of wisdom on what it takes to make tough decisions based on tradeoffs, opportunity cost and developer bandwidth, Smruti Patel’s insights can be applied to any org – even ones worth less than $100 billion!


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27 Aug 2022The Day-1 Decisions that Make or Break Companies w/ PlanetScale's CEO Sam Lambert00:33:26

Your early tech stack decisions won’t ensure long term success, but they can certainly set you up for long term failure. 

Pragmatists rejoice! This week’s episode of Dev Interrupted features Sam Lambert, CEO & President of PlanetScale, a tech leader known as the ‘Oracle of Pragmatism’. 

In a winding conversation that touches on Sam’s time at GitHub, where he helped the then 40th most-trafficked website in the world run on just 2 servers, to his experience working at Facebook where he learned that you don’t need to sacrifice quality in order to move fast, this episode has the insights you need to make straightforward, no BS decisions about your tech stack. 

Or as Sam says, learn how to avoid “the new hotness” in order to build a culture that reflects the often boring decisions that make or break a company.

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06 Sep 2022Lessons Learned from Programming at Google w/ Hyrum Wright & Titus Winters00:51:42

Today, we are releasing the full interview of one of our favorite episodes: Dan’s 2021 conversation with engineers-turned-authors, Hyrum Wright & Titus Winters.

As two of the most senior staff engineers at Google, both guests brought a deep understanding of software engineering to the show: Hyrum is semi-famous as the "Hyrum" of Hyrum's Law; while Titus is responsible for managing 250 million lines of code.

In their brilliant book Software Engineering at Google: Lessons Learned from Programming Over Time, Hyrum & Titus explore the engineering practices that make one of the largest codebases in the world sustainable and healthy. 

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13 Sep 2022We Solved Dev Infrastructure, So Why Does it Suck to Build Stuff? w/ Hasura's Tanmai Gopal00:42:29

In the last decade there have been enormous advances in infrastructure and ops, so why does it suck to build stuff? 

That’s the question Tanmai Gopal kept asking himself before founding his company, Hasura. Now, as Hasura’s CEO he’s channeling his chaotic energy in order to solve this problem. 

This week’s episode of Dev Interrupted implores listeners to forget about pivoting (it’s just the story other people impose on your journey), shames backend devs for their elitist tendencies and asks why, if Netflix won the battle for infrastructure, are they losing the streaming wars to Disney?

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20 Sep 2022Ship/Show/Ask - A Branching Strategy for Modern Dev Teams w/ Author & Eng Leader Rouan Wilsenach00:38:58

Branching strategy has been reimagined. Meet the mind behind it. 

In his first-ever podcast appearance, Rouan Wilsenach, author of Ship/Show/Ask: A Modern Branching Strategy, joins Dev Interrupted to talk about his work as an author and the inspiration behind his musings on branching strategy. 

If you haven’t already read Ship/Show/Ask, you can find it on Martin Fowler’s website. It’s one of the most influential articles we’ve read in years. 

Rouan has been more than an inspiration, he’s changed the way our dev teams work at LinearB - and he might just change yours too. 

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27 Sep 2022Atlassian’s Eye-Opening State of Teams Report w/ Mark Cruth Modern Work Evangelist00:47:46

When you get the chance to geek out over the metrics behind happy dev teams, you take it.

As one of the companies shaping how the modern workforce, well… works, Atlassian is one of the foremost thought leaders in the space thanks to an amazing research and data team.

Case in point: Atlassian’s State of Teams Report.

In this week’s episode, modern work evangelist Mark Cruth takes us through the most interesting, insightful and counterintuitive findings from their deep dive on what is separating healthy teams from unhealthy ones.

From whether hybrid or in-office is the best for modern teams to what work principles are the most important to keep in a remote world, this conversation about the State of Teams report is an eye-opener for anyone whose success depends on the work of others.

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04 Oct 2022Labs: The Best & Worst Programming Languages For Dev Workflow00:41:26

The argument about which programming language reigns supreme is about to get a lot more clear with the release of research on the best and worst languages for dev workflow.

In this episode of LinearB Labs, CTO Yishai Beeri reveals what the company’s data scientists have discovered about programming-language productivity following analysis of thousands of dev teams and hundreds of thousands of pull requests.

Industry-changing research on which programming languages linger under excessively long shipping lifespans and which ones are impressively efficient, this pod should help settle debates that have been entirely subjective up to this point.

If your programming language of choice ends up on the wrong side of the spectrum, don’t fret. Yishai and team also came up with recommendations to overcome the hurdles and bottlenecks for languages that require better workflow.

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11 Oct 2022Where Did All The Focus Time Go? Dissecting 1.5 Million Meetings w/ Clockwise's VP of Engineering, Dan Kador00:44:09

Where has all the focus time gone? Why does there seem to be less of it at big companies than at startups? And do managers really have as little as they claim?

It should come as no surprise to our listeners that we're big fans of data here at Dev Interrupted. The coolest thing about having Dan Kador, VP of Engineering at Clockwise, on the show is that he brings data we already intuitively understood but could not quantify.

Armed with data from 1.5 million meetings, 80,000 engineers and over 5,000 companies, this episode answers every question your engineering team has wondered about meetings - and might just reaffirm every suspicion you've had too.

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18 Oct 2022Why Discord is Betting Big on Devs w/ Anjney Midha VP of Platform Ecosystem at Discord00:39:33

How does a platform with 150 million monthly active users build for the future? In a word: Developers.

Discord is betting big that the future of their company, their product and their community is in supporting developers - and they're putting their money where their mouth is.   

On this week's episode of Dev Interrupted, Anjney Midha, Discord's VP of Platform Ecosystem, sits down with us to discuss Discord's past, present and future.

In this incredible episode, Anjney details Discord's recent product announcement, its spiritual connection to gaming, and why a totally moddable platform is the key to user experience. 

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25 Oct 2022Interact: A Word From Your Co-Hosts00:04:08

Hosts Dan Lines & Conor Bronsdon remind listeners that Interact is today - October 25th - and why it's the must-attend event for engineering leaders.

They also rundown some of the most exciting speakers at Interact, why they are so proud of what the event has become - and which of the two is Robin to the other's Batman.

Join Dan & Conor and thousands of other engineering leaders at Interact.

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01 Nov 2022The Promise of Platform Engineering w/ Charity Majors, CTO at Honeycomb00:47:26

Live from Interact, we're bringing you an interview with our favorite CTO, Charity Majors.

Never one to be shy about speaking her mind, Charity is an outspoken advocate for devs everywhere - and this passion made her a fan favorite at Interact.

Listen as Charity discusses her career, why the hierarchy is bullshit (disclaimer: she likes to swear - we like that about her), and why platform engineering is the most exciting place to sit in computing today.

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08 Nov 2022Leading Engineers in Uncertain Times | A Conversation with CircleCI, Blockchain.com & Oliver Wyman00:56:52

It's no secret this has been a difficult year for many companies in tech. The truth is, it's easy to be a leader when times are good. It's less easy in the midst of a storm.

That's why we assembled a panel of some of the smartest engineering leaders we know at Interact to talk about the leadership principles that help guide an engineering organization no matter what is happening in the world.

Today's episode of Dev Interrupted features Michael Stahnke, VP of Platform at CircleCI; Lewis Tuff, VP of Engineering at Blockchain.com; and Carolyn Vo, Partner & Head of Engineering at Oliver Wyman. 

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15 Nov 2022Why Startups Suck at Security w/ Vanta's Head of Engineering, Matt Spitz00:38:35

When your startup is struggling to find its product-market fit, security is the last thing on your mind - and according to security expert Matt Spitz, that’s perfectly fine!

Matt is Vanta's Head of Engineering and he joins this week's episode of Dev Interrupted to  explain everything you ever wanted to know about startups and security.

Matt debunks the real security risks we face (think S3 buckets, not nation states), how to create a company culture that embraces security and when your startup needs to start caring about all this stuff.

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22 Nov 2022Economic Downturn is No Excuse to Use Individual Metrics w/ Ori Keren, Co-Founder & CEO of LinearB00:30:42

Bad habits have a way of resurfacing during difficult times. Unfortunately for engineering teams everywhere, this is one of those times.

In this topical episode of Dev Interrupted, LinearB co-founders Dan Lines & Ori Keren discuss the current macroeconomic climate, its effect on engineering teams, and why individual metrics are - and should remain - a relic of days gone by.

Our heart goes out to anyone who has been affected by the layoffs across the tech industry. Please reach out to the Dev Interrupted community if there is any way we can help.  




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29 Nov 2022Gene Kim + The Rise and Fall of DevOps | Conversations from DevOps Enterprise Summit00:51:59

Dev Interrupted takes a detour to Vegas!

In a first for the show, we took the podcast on the road to attend the DevOps Enterprise Summit in Las Vegas.

While at DOES, we had the pleasure of interviewing Gene Kim, famed researcher and author of "The Phoenix Project" and "Accelerate".

Also attending DOES were friends of the podcast Bryan and Dana Finster, whose presentation on the Rise and Fall of DevOps inspired us to invite them onto the pod.

Listen to this two-part episode as Gene breaks down all things DevOps past, present and future, while the Finsters present their case for platform teams, project ownership and how to win the trust that binds good dev teams. 

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06 Dec 2022Treating Devs Like Human Beings | A Conversation with Kelly Vaughn, Jean Hsu & Lena Reinhard01:00:58

Sometimes among all the sprints,  the pressure to ship faster,  tools to measure lines of code written,  it seems like we as an industry forget a simple fact: developers are knowledge workers, not robots

To remind us what it means to be a human, we invited some of the most empathetic engineering leaders we know to Interact and asked them to sit on a panel together. The conversation that followed is one of the most insightful and relevant conversations we've heard all year. Whether you are an IC, manager or manager of managers, we promise this conversation will help you become a more empathetic leader and colleague. 

Today's episode of Dev Interrupted features Kelly Vaughn, Director of Engineering at Spot AI; Jean Hsu, VP of Engineering at Range; and Lena Reinhard, an engineering leadership coach. 

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13 Dec 2022It’s Not Open Source, It’s You. Where Open Source Risk Comes From w/ Sonatype00:36:31

Picture this: an auto manufacturer with no clue what parts are in its supply chain, where those parts come from and no ability to recall those parts if vulnerabilities are discovered.

That’s not a reality consumers would accept. So why do organizations (and manufacturers!) tolerate it when it comes to software? 

On this week’s episode of Dev Interrupted, Brian Fox, co-founder & CTO, and Stephen Magill, VP of Product Innovation, join us to talk about Sonatype’s State of the Software Supply Chain Report. 

Listen as Brian and Stephen explain the ins and outs of open source risk management, how companies that aren’t open source maintainers can do a better job protecting themselves and why cybercrime is like “VC funds for the bad guys.” 

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8th Annual State of the Software Supply Chain Report

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20 Dec 2022Season 2 Finale: Holidays, 2022’s Favorite Moments, Season 3 Sneak Peek & more!00:27:40

Sit back, relax, grab your favorite beverage and listen as Dev Interrupted co-hosts Dan Lines & Conor Bronsdon recap the Season 2 of the podcast. 

In this special episode, our co-hosts describe their perfect holiday meal, share some of their favorite moments from the past year (personal and professional!) and give a sneak peek at what the audience can expect from Season 3 of the podcast.

From our family to yours, have a wonderful holiday season and we’ll see you on January 3rd for Season 3!

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Dan's favorite interview: Charity Majors
Dan's favorite topic: Ship/Show/Ask
Conor's favorite interview: Kelly Vaughn
Conor's favorite episode: Discord

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03 Jan 2023Educating the Next Generation of Cloud Engineers | Google Cloud's Forrest Brazeal00:29:47

Happy New Year and welcome to Season 3 of Dev Interrupted! 

We couldn't think of a better way to kick off Season 3 of the podcast than with the immensely talented Forrest Brazeal. 

Not only is Forrest the Head of Developer Media at Google Cloud, but he lists being a writer, speaker, cartoonist, cloud architect and AWS Serverless Hero, among his many accolades. 

To top it all off, Forrest is an all around great guy with a passion for education and advocacy. That's why he's working to help educate, train and develop the next generation of cloud engineers. But he needs your help. 

Listen as Forrest explains why so many great engineers get overlooked by companies - and how to stop it. 

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Cloud Resume Challenge
Google Cloud Next '22 Developer Keynote: Top 10 Cloud Technology Predictions

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10 Jan 2023Startup Growth & Metrics: What to Measure & When | Laura Tacho00:44:55

As your startup scales it's not enough to know what to measure - you have to know WHEN to measure. Metrics that are important in one growth phase might not be in the next.

To help us make sense of it all, we invited Laura Tacho onto the show. Laura is a VP of Engineering & Leadership Coach, and an expert when it comes to startup growth and metrics, having worked with over 125 different companies.

We love this episode because it takes a team-first approach to metrics and then relates those metrics back to the growth of your organization. Whether you are a seasoned engineering leader or an IC trying to understand where your team is headed, this unique take on metrics will set your team up for success - and happiness - in 2023.

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https://lauratacho.com/

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17 Jan 2023The Journey to Code Mastery | Marqeta's Randy Kern00:47:27

Randy Kern, CTO at Marqeta, thinks that every engineer should "go deep" - all the way to understanding the transistors if you have to. He implores us never to be satisfied with black boxes, believing that it's not only risky not to understand what your code is really doing, but it's not fun either.

We love this episode because Randy's joy is infectious. He reminds us why we got into software engineering in the first place. If you've been looking for a reminder yourself, this is the episode for you.

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24 Jan 2023Connecting Your Devs' Work to the Business | A Conversation with Shopify, Slack & Stripe00:48:23

"Is my team solving the right problem?" 

To answer this seemingly simple question, we assembled a panel of some of the smartest engineering leaders we know and asked them how they answer this question with their own teams.

Featuring Rukmini Reddy, SVP of Platform Engineering at Slack, James Stanier, Dir. of Engineering at Shopify, and Smruti Patel, VP of Engineering at Apollo, the following conversation debuted in front of a live audience at the Interact engineering conference. 

Originally an exclusive conversation for Interact attendees, we listened to our fans and decided to drop the full conversation as an episode of the podcast. 

Items of note: 

  • This panel was filmed in October prior to many of the recent layoffs that have been in the news. 
  • When this panel was recorded Smruti Patel worked at Stripe. She has since taken a job with Apollo. 


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31 Jan 2023The Rise of Vector Search | Pinecone's Edo Liberty00:40:39

We're still in January and AI might already be the buzzword of 2023 - and for good reason. AI powered startups have been layoff resistant and machine learning engineers are one of the fastest growing jobs, not in tech, but in the entire economy.

This week, we sit down with Pinecone Founder and CEO, Edo Liberty.  An AI and machine learning expert, Edo graduated from Yale with a PhD in Applied Mathematics and worked as Head of Amazon’s AI Labs before founding Pinecone.

Listen as he explains why the biggest AI and machine learning companies in the world - Google, Amazon, Meta and TikTok - use vector search to power their products.


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07 Feb 2023The Problem with MTTR: Learning from Incident Reports | Courtney Nash00:33:39

Tracking Mean Time To Restore (MTTR) is standard industry practice for incident response and analysis, but should it be? 

Courtney Nash, an Internet Incident Librarian, argues that MTTR is not a reliable metric - and we think she's got a point.

We caught up with Courtney at the DevOps Enterprise Summit in Las Vegas, where she was making her case against MTTR in favor of alternative metrics (SLOs and cost of coordination data), practices (Near Miss analysis), and mindsets (humans are the solution, not the problem) to help organization better learn from their incidents.

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14 Feb 2023Can Value Stream Management Solve DevOps‘ Struggles? | Steve Pereira00:43:13

A decades-old physical goods manufacturing concept is being applied to modern dev teams with great results. What can software development learn from the past?

Value Stream Management (VSM) has been a focus of business and manufacturing for years but big tech has only recently taken notice.

Steve Pereira, a.k.a. "The VSM Guy", joins us to talk about what engineering leaders can learn from VSM, its impact on individual and team workflow, how it differs from Agile and DevOps, and why its emphasis on the creation and delivery of value represents an opportunity for dev teams everywhere.


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21 Feb 2023Labs: The Science Of Allocating Dev Resources In 202300:37:13

The days of growth at all costs are over; your 2023 engineering strategy needs to be about scaling efficiently.

In the first Labs episode of the year, Dan invites LinearB's VP of Product, Eran Shitrit, on the show to discuss how teams are proactively addressing concerns around cost reduction and efficiency through smarter project allocation.

Dan and Eran also discuss the rollout of LinearB's resource allocation dashboard and the success of the Scaling Developer Efficiency workshop.

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28 Feb 2023Solving the Enduring Pain of Authorization | Aserto’s Omri Gazitt00:37:55

Whether you're at a startup, enterprise, or something in between, authorization and access control are likely major pain points for your team.

This week on Dev Interrupted we talk to Omri Gazitt, co-founder and CEO of Aserto. Omri joins us to chat about the future of authorization, how to handle access control on your team, and how to avoid the toil and tech debt often associated with access control. 

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07 Mar 2023Reinventing IBM: DevSecOps, AI, Quantum Computing | Rosalind Radcliffe00:40:01

No company is immune to transformation, not even one with as storied a history as IBM. 

This week on Dev Interrupted, Rosalind Radcliffe, the CIO DevSecOps CTO at IBM, joins us to chat about how one of tech's greatest legacy companies is positioning itself for the future. 

Rosalind shares what it means to be named an IBM Fellow, her work to bring DevOps and open source to the z/OS environment, and what the future looks like at IBM. [Hint: it involves quantum computing and AI!]

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14 Mar 2023Developer Experience: It’s Time to Start Complaining | Gradle's Justin Reock00:27:40

It's time to make noise. Developers need to take back their happiness and their productivity. But where should they start? 

On this week's episode of Dev Interrupted, we're joined by Justin Reock, Field CTO and Chief Evangelist at Gradle. With a mission to mitigate the toil, friction, and frustration felt by so many developers, Justin has become a tireless advocate of Developer Productivity Engineering. 

Listen as Justin explains DPE by exploring the connections between productivity, developer experience, and joy. 

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28 Mar 2023DevOps is the Philosophy, Platform is the Practice | Humanitec's Kaspar von Grünberg00:35:57

"DevOps is dead."

Well, not exactly. But the DevOps methodology of "you build it, you run it" has been failing development teams for years.

On this week's episode of Dev Interrupted, we sit down with Kaspar von Grünberg, founder & CEO of Humanitec. Listen as Kaspar explains the significant cognitive load placed on developers as a result of DevOps practices, how that has caused software engineering to be the only industry since Medieval times not to drive towards specialization, and why platform engineers provide a solution to the outdated DevOps model.

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21 Mar 2023Team Topologies: Organizing Business & Technology Teams | Authors Matthew Skelton & Manuel Pais00:48:18

Effective software teams are essential for any organization to deliver value continuously and sustainably. But how do you build the best team organization for your specific goals, culture, and needs?

That's the question posed by authors Matthew Skelton and Manuel Pais in their highly-acclaimed book, Team Topologies: Organizing Business and Technology Teams for Fast Flow.

On this week's episode of Dev Interrupted, we revisit Dan's 2021 conversation with Matthew and Manuel. Since first airing, their book has received broad recognition for its step-by-step advice, approach to team patterns and interactions, and compelling analysis of the communication pathways that lead to organizational success. 

We think this episode is as relevant today as it was when it was released - and we hope you agree!

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04 Apr 2023The Art of Community Building | Postman's Joyce Lin00:29:08

What does building an engaged community really mean for your business?

When we look at a company like Postman with over 20 million active users and one of the most passionate groups of evangelizers in tech, we find that Postman's story is really a story of community success. In fact, after product-market fit, community has become a must-have for any startup looking to survive.  But community building is a tricky thing, so where and how do you start?

On this week's episode of Dev Interrupted, listen as Joyce Lin, Head of Developer Relations at Postman, shares the secrets and behind-the-scenes lessons learned from building one of the most successful communities in tech. Joyce is also an expert TikToker, diving into its algorithm, its relevance for developers, and whether or not engineering leaders should devote attention to building a community on the platform.

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11 Apr 2023Surviving SVB's Collapse & Outsmarting Uber | Kyte's Nick Cobb00:46:11

It hasn't been smooth sailing for startups this year. As this week's guest Nick Cobb puts it "You can add bank runs to the list of things founders have to deal with." Of course, it hasn't been easy going for engineering leaders either. 

That's why Nick, the VP of Engineering & Head of Product at Kyte, sat down with us to discuss how to build an engineering culture with a bias toward action, why he deleted his team's staging environment, and what it takes to outmaneuver his former employer, Uber. 

An angel investor, Nick also touches on the aftershocks of the SVB crash and its lasting effects on the startup community.

Recorded live at LeadDev New York, this episode is a must-listen for engineering leaders who want to place product innovation in the driver's seat of their engineering org.

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18 Apr 2023Coding Your Dreams into Reality: Lessons from an Engineer turned Entrepreneur | ButterCMS Jake Lumetta00:35:19

Engineers make great entrepreneurs. So a startup that has two engineers as its founders must be twice as good, right? Not exactly.

On this week's episode of Dev Interrupted, we talk to Jake Lumetta, founder & CEO of ButterCMS. A serial entrepreneur, Jake found success (and failure) with numerous startups before striking it big with ButterCMS.

He joins us today to discuss practical advice for engineers-turned-entrepreneurs, like knowing when to step away from the keyboard and handover the codebase, why building a B2B startup is so much easier than building a B2C, and why two engineers founding a company together isn't always a good idea.

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25 Apr 2023Redefining Incident Response: Insights from the Chaos Engineer Behind Jeli.io | Nora Jones00:38:54

If you think your org doesn’t have any incidents, it’s time to change your definition of an incident.

This week we’re joined by Nora Jones, Jeli's founder & CEO, to help us make sense of incident analysis and explain why so many incidents go underreported. Before beginning her journey as a founder, Nora helped pioneer chaos engineering at companies like Netflix and Slack where she developed a passion for understanding the intersection of software and people.
 
A stellar engineer, manager & founder, we caught up with Nora on the heels of her keynote address at the LeadDev conference in New York.

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02 May 2023Upskilling Your Eng Team: The Problem with the Modern Approach to Learning | Skiller Whale's Hywel Carver00:41:46

Do our personal learning preferences actually affect how well we learn? And what makes learning new skills - like a programming language - so hard in the first place? 

On this week’s episode of Dev Interrupted, we’re joined by Hywel Carver, founder & CEO at Skiller Whale. An expert in the principles and practices behind learning and knowledge retention, Hywel walks us through the best learning techniques for engineers.

He also discusses how engineering leaders can upskill their teams without hiring additional staff, why modern approaches to learning often fall short (think YouTube), and why there is no evidence to support the idea that personal learning styles, such as visual or kinesthetic, impact learning outcomes.

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09 May 2023Tech Hiring in 2023: Trends, Predictions & Strategies for Success | Datapeople's Maryam Jahanshahi00:43:04

The tech industry has seen a significant change in the skills, qualifications, and titles listed in job postings over the past few years. What does that mean for companies - and for the candidates themselves?

On this week’s episode of Dev Interrupted, we talk to Maryam Jahanshahi co-founder and Head of R&D at Datapeople, who breaks down the biggest hiring trends in tech from title inflation to salary transparency and the skyrocketing costs of recruitment.

Maryam also discusses how the storytelling skills she picked up from data analysis have improved her abilities as a founder.

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16 May 2023Exploring the Capabilities of eBPF | Author Liz Rice00:38:28

On this week’s episode of Dev Interrupted, we talk to Liz Rice, Chief Open Source Officer at Isovalent, and author of the book Learning eBPF: Programming the Linux Kernel for Enhanced Observability, Networking, and Security.

Liz is an expert on open source, containers, and cloud-native technologies, and joins us to discuss her book, what she describes as some of the eBPF "superpowers" people are talking about, and some of the fascinating projects surrounding eBPF like Project Kepler.

Liz also gives advice to engineers looking to try their hand at writing a book.

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23 May 2023From Twitter Spaces to Independent Artists: Leading Org-Based Innovation | Pablo Jablonski00:40:16

Imagine a future where anyone can be a musician. Now ask yourself what that has in common with building Twitter Spaces. The answer? Org-based innovation. 

On this week’s episode of Dev Interrupted, we’re joined by the talented Pablo Jablonski, the engineer responsible for leading the team behind Spaces. Today, Pablo is reshaping the music industry as the VP of Engineering at United Masters. 

In this free-flowing conversation we unravel the intricacies of building Spaces, discuss Twitter’s pivotal role in public discourse and break down some of the historic challenges faced by Twitter’s engineering team.  

Pablo also explores how United Masters is bridging the gap between artists and their dreams, empowering them to take control of their own destinies. Taking cues from his time at Twitter, Pablo and his team are building a platform that aims to dismantle the music industry’s traditional hierarchies. 

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30 May 2023Labs: The Magic of Compound Efficiencies in Engineering00:43:30

 As the milestone book Atomic Habits laid out, the key to life-changing habits is adopting one effectively and then layering another desirable habit on top of it.

The same is true for efficiencies in software engineering.

When your team adopts one efficiency, sees it bear fruit, then adds the next efficiency habit on top of it, the result is compounding efficiencies.

In this conversation, LinearB’s CTO Yishai Beeri reveals the data on compound efficiencies as experienced by real dev teams out in the wild.

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06 Jun 2023Decoding Duolingo: Returning to the Office, Enabling First-Time Managers & More | Fabio Lessa00:31:50

Remote, hybrid, or in-office? Opinions are divided on what has quickly become one of the most controversial topics in tech: Should we return to the office and if so, how and when?

On this week’s episode of Dev Interrupted, we sit down with Duolingo’s Sr. Director of Engineering Fabio Lessa, to discuss how to successfully transition your engineering org back to the office - and why Duolingo has done it so successfully. [Hint: it all starts with culture.]

Fabio also discusses Duolingo’s training program for first-time managers, the transition from IC to team lead, and tips to roll out a training program at your company.

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13 Jun 2023Healthcare’s Digital Accessibility Problem | Ro’s Plum Ertz00:26:16

 The push for digital accessibility aims to ensure equal access and inclusion for all individuals. So why are healthcare companies failing to keep up?

In this week’s episode of Dev Interrupted, we sit down with Plum Ertz, Director of Engineering at Ro, to dissect healthcare’s digital accessibility problem. Following explosive growth in telemedicine due to consumer behavior changes brought on by the pandemic, the healthcare industry has struggled to provide accessible healthcare services on the internet, regardless of the technology or disability someone may have. Plum sheds light on the work being done at Ro to address these challenges, emphasizing the simple steps that teams can take to enhance their digital accessibility.

Plum also shares stories from her time at Buzzfeed, where she accidentally took down the entire site after forgetting a semicolon and once mistakenly calling a midterm election 5 hours too early.

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20 Jun 2023You Are What You Build: Making Your Code More Human | GitHub’s Christina Entcheva00:29:37

The world is what we make it. Tech - and AI - follow the same principles.

On this week’s episode of Dev Interrupted, we sit down with Christina Enchevta, a Director of Engineering at GitHub, to unravel the link between the values we hold and the things we build. We delve into how AI applications mirror our values, intentionally or not, and how this can lead to surprising outcomes, no matter how benevolent our intentions.

Christina also shares practical advice for engineering leaders on how to take and provide constructive feedback, dismantle information silos, and infuse your values into the product development process.

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27 Jun 2023Labs: Inside the Top 10% of Engineering Orgs00:37:26

Fact: You can’t become better at anything unless you understand what getting better would actually look like. This is especially true in the case of engineering teams.

Following the analysis of 2,000 dev teams and over 4 million code branches, the 2023 Engineering Benchmarks report is out.

To walk us through the performance metrics of the top 10% of engineering teams, LinearB’s Head of Developer Relations Ben Lloyd Pearson makes his first Dev Interrupted appearance.

From how long elite teams take to complete code tasks to the size of their pull requests, this is a great episode to understand where your dev team stands and where they have concrete room to improve.

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04 Jul 2023The Art of Landing a DevRel Role | daily.dev's Francesco Ciulla00:38:58

In this week's episode of Dev Interrupted, we’re focusing on the increasingly valuable role of DevRels. Francesco Ciulla, Developer Advocate at the open-source daily.dev community - which has more than 100,000 daily active users - joins us for a DevRel deep dive.

Listen as Francesco explains how a career change in his thirties set him on a path towards becoming a developer, being hired by the European Space Agency and, eventually, landing a role as a developer advocate, crediting much of his success on his ability to leverage social media to advance his career. 

Outside of his personal story, Francesco shares his thoughts on connecting with devs, why YouTube is such a powerful platform and settles the debate on the kind of content developers are most interested in. 

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11 Jul 2023Reimagining DORA Metrics & Leveraging Feature Flags | Split's Ariel Perez00:46:31

Does the emergence of feature flags affect the interpretation and utility of DORA metrics?

On this week’s episode of Dev Interrupted, host Dan Lines and Ariel Perez, VP of Engineering at Split.io, discuss the state of DORA metrics and whether they need reimaging in a world of feature flags. Listen as Ariel explains why he believes feature flags are more than a tool, and have begun to reshape our understanding of software development and the metrics we use to measure it.

Dan and Ariel also touch on how feature flags can drastically reduce lead time and mean time to recover, and conclude their chat with an intriguing look at the granular nature of control in the modern software engineering landscape, where the unit of control has shifted from the application as a whole to individual features.

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18 Jul 2023Have Engineering Leaders Become Too Hands-off? | Braze's Francisco Trindade00:30:10

On this week’s episode of Dev Interrupted, co-host Conor Bronsdon welcomes Francisco Trindade, Director of Engineering at Braze, to discuss strategies to improve collaboration and effectiveness within engineering teams. 

Francisco notes a shift in the tech industry over the past decade from focusing on rapid hiring and individual growth to a need for more effective team dynamics. Criticizing the tech industry's aversion to micromanagement, he argues that it has inadvertently resulted in a lack of focus on team effectiveness and proposes a renewed emphasis on fostering productive environments for engineers to fully realize their potential.

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25 Jul 2023AI Tooling For Your Dev Team: To Adopt or Not to Adopt? | CodiumAI's Itamar Friedman00:54:33

Amid the escalating buzz surrounding AI tools, many development teams grapple with deciding which ones suit their needs best, when to adopt them, and the potential risks of not doing so. As AI continues to pose more questions than answers, the fear of falling behind the competition lurks for many.

This week's episode of Dev Interrupted aims to dispel these uncertainties by welcoming CodiumAI’s founder & CEO, Itamar Friedman. In one of our most illuminating discussions this year, Itamar pierces through the AI hype, explaining what AI tools bring to the table, how to discern the ones that would truly augment your dev teams, and the strategies to efficiently identify and experiment with new tools.

Beyond the allure of AI, Itamar doesn't shy away from addressing its pitfalls and adversarial risks. He also probes into the future of the developer's role in an increasingly AI-driven landscape, answering the question: “Will there be developers in 10 years?”

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01 Aug 2023Labs: The Evolution of Continuous Merge | DevCycle’s Nik LeBlanc00:35:59

On this week’s episode of Dev Interrupted, co-host Conor Bronsdon and Ben Lloyd Pearson, LinearB’s Director of Developer Relations, detail the evolution of Continuous Merge and the tool behind it, gitStream. Joining the conversation is Nik LeBlanc, VP of Engineering at DevCycle.

Nik shares the ways his team is using gitStream to streamline code reviews and offers practical advice for anyone looking to implement the tool on their own team. He also explores the somewhat controversial practice of splitting up and reshuffling engineering teams, a strategy that DevCycle has used to great effect. Nik finds that this practice helps balance teams, manage diverse knowledge bases, and de-risk the organization.

Conor and Ben wrap up the conversation by casting an eye on the future, focusing on the potential and direction of gitStream.

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08 Aug 2023The Essence of Shipping Code: a CTO's Perspective | Flowcode’s Mike Hamrah00:41:10

On this week’s episode of Dev Interrupted, host Dan Lines speaks with Mike Hamrah, CTO at Flowcode. Together, the two detail the fundamental responsibility of developers and tech leaders: shipping code. 

Mike shares a candid view of the industry's current state, lamenting how the focus on code shipping is getting lost amidst the complexities of agile methodologies, stand-up meetings, and sprint planning. He urges developers and leaders alike to recenter their conversations on the essence of their roles, serving as a call to action in the episode and reminding listeners of the importance of understanding what code needs to be written and the purpose it serves, all while avoiding detrimental practices that can hinder long-term development success.

Dan and Mike end the episode with a conversation on goalsetting and OKRs, translating classic business goals into engineering execution and emphasizing the need to turn general business goals into concrete, actionable plans.

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15 Aug 2023Is Internal Tooling Holding Your Team Back? | DevZero’s Debosmit Ray00:25:48

The wrong internal tools can hold your team back. So how do you find the right ones, and how the heck do you get engineers to adopt them once you do?

On this week’s episode of Dev Interrupted, co-host Conor Bronsdon welcomes Debo Ray, co-founder & CEO of DevZero, to discuss the challenges developers face due to inadequate tools. With a keen sense of developers' needs, Debo explains why many companies fail in this domain, squandering precious dev time. 

Debo also offers a peek into the future of cloud development, the work he's doing at DevZero, and the nuances of marketing tools to developers. 

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22 Aug 2023Going Global: Establishing a Team and Office Abroad | Kelly Vaughn00:38:01

Considering expanding your engineering team overseas? While daunting, the rewards could outweigh the challenges.

On this week’s episode of Dev Interrupted, co-host Conor Bronsdon welcomes Kelly Vaughn, Director of Engineering at Spot AI, back to the show. One of our most listened-to voices, Kelly dissects the decision-making process behind opening a new office - from the long list of potential countries to the myriad factors that clinched the decision.

Outside of the big picture stuff like navigating timezones and culture differences, Kelly also shares valuable insights on ground-level practices, such as the importance of local recruiters and strategies for discussing equities and contractor partnerships.

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29 Aug 2023Using HEAT Metrics to Bring Purpose to Platforms | Simone Casciaroli00:36:09

In an industry buzzing with enthusiasm for Engineering Platforms, many are developed without a clear product vision, leading to poor adoption or even hindering organizational performance.

On this week’s episode of Dev Interrupted, cohost Conor Bronsdon talks with Simone Casciaroli, Head of Engineering at Onto. We first encountered Simone's insights at LeadDev New York and immediately knew he'd be the perfect guest to discuss how to build engineering platforms using the right metrics.

Join us as Conor and Simone delve into the HEAT metrics and explore how they dovetail with established engineering standards like DORA. The episode rounds off with an engaging discussion about electric vehicle startup Onto.

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05 Sep 2023Career Journey 1: Interviewing & Getting Promoted | Thiago Ghisi00:45:37

How do you become an engineering leader? Is it the right fit for your career? And if you do, how do you become a good one? 

In this multi-part series on the career journey of an engineering leader, Dev Interrupted answers these questions and many more by inviting expert guests from the software industry to share their experiences, lessons, failures and triumphs as leaders. Whether you started your career today - or 20 years ago - this series has something for everyone. 

In our first episode, host Dan Lines is joined by Thiago Ghisi, Director of Engineering at Nubank. Together, they explore the nuances of beginning a career as an engineering manager: from acing the interview process and securing a promotion to confidently navigating your first 3 weeks on the job. 

Join us for a series of real-world lessons and insights from top engineering leaders.

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12 Sep 2023Career Journey 2: Essential Skills & Key Attributes | Thiago Ghisi00:46:36

Once you've taken that step into leadership, what foundational skills and attitudes will carry you forward throughout your career?

Continuing our series on the career journey of an engineering leader, host Dan Lines once again welcomes Thiago Ghisi, Director of Engineering at Nubank. 

In this second episode, they pivot the discussion from the initial steps of becoming an engineering manager to the more nuanced subject of building a robust foundation as a leader. The episode explores the essential skills, the dos and don'ts, and the philosophies that can guide engineering leaders to make an enduring impact on their teams and projects.

Tune in as we unravel the core principles and practices that underpin success.

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19 Sep 2023The McKinsey Developer Productivity Debate | Ori Keren & Kelly Vaughn00:43:06

The debate on measuring developer productivity has arrived - and it’s here to stay. 

On this week’s episode of Dev Interrupted, cohost Conor Bronsdon welcomes LinearB cofounder & CEO Ori Keren and Kelly Vaughn, Director of Engineering at Spot AI, to offer their critiques of a debate that has captured the attention of the engineering community: can you measure developer productivity?

Consulting giant McKinsey published an article that ignited a firestorm, prompting industry leaders Kent Beck and Gergely Orosz to counter with a detailed 2-part response via the Pragmatic Engineer.

Believing the industry to be at a crossroads, Ori and Kelly combine forces to offer their perspective on the debate, sharing why it’s an opportunity for dev teams everywhere to “roll out metrics the right way.”

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26 Sep 2023Career Journey 3: Assembling & Nurturing Engineering Teams | Code Story's Noah Labhart00:48:17

With great power comes great responsibility. Now that you've been promoted to a people manager, how do you build a healthy and successful engineering team?

Extending our series on the career journey of engineering leader, co-host Conor Bronsdon is joined by Noah Labhart, co-founder & CTO at Veryable, and host of the popular podcast Code Story.

Conor and Noah shift the series' focus to the intricacies of building effective engineering teams. Beyond team building, the episode delves into the subtleties of offering and accepting feedback, the importance of hiring developers vs. programmers,  and fostering an environment where each individual can flourish.

If you haven’t listened to the first two episodes of our leadership series featuring NuBank's Thiago Ghisi, you can find them on Dev Interrupted's new website

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03 Oct 2023Where are all the laid-off software developers going? | LeadDev’s Scott Carey00:40:30

The news has been filled with stories of layoffs at many of tech’s biggest companies, so where are all those engineers going?

Scott Carey, LeadDev’s Editor-in-Chief, rolled up his sleeves, dusted off his skills as a trained journalist, and set out to answer that question. What he found was a simple question with a complicated answer.

On this week’s episode of Dev Interrupted, co-host Conor Bronsdon interviews Scott about the shifting job landscape, spotlighting the findings in Scott’s pivotal article, “Where are all the laid-off software developers going?”

Beyond the dynamics shaping the future of tech employment, the two discuss why non-traditional tech companies have difficulty hiring engineers [hint: it’s not money!], whether or not the “boom times are over,” and the major trends LeadDev is seeing within the engineering community. 

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10 Oct 2023Career Journey 4: Product-Led & Customer-Obsessed | Bhavini Soneji00:39:26

In a world where products are plentiful but genuine customer focus is rare, how do you build an engineering org focused on customer needs? 

Embark on the 4th chapter of our series on the Career Journey of Engineering Leaders as Dev Interrupted host Dan Lines sits down with the talented, Bhavini Soneji. With a wealth of experience spanning over 25 years and pivotal roles at places like Headspace, Heal, and Microsoft, Bhavini has meticulously honed her approach to creating engineering orgs that prioritize both product innovation and a deep-rooted customer focus.

Listen as Dan and Bhavini unravel what it truly means to be 'customer-obsessed' as well as the secrets to maintaining that fervent customer passion well beyond a product's launch.

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17 Oct 2023Unpacking DORA’s State of DevOps Report | Nathen Harvey00:45:04

What does this year’s Accelerate State of DevOps Report 2023 mean for your team?

LinearB & DORA have officially joined forces. On this week’s episode of Dev Interrupted, co-host Conor Bronsdon interviews Nathen Harvey, Head of Google Cloud’s DORA team. 

With data gathered from over 36,000 global professionals, this year’s report investigated how top DevOps performers integrate technical, process, and cultural capabilities into their practices for success.

Listen to learn how your team can focus on three core outcomes of DevOps: enhancing organizational value, boosting team innovation and collaboration, and promoting team member well-being and productivity.

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24 Oct 2023Career Journey 5: Bringing Diversity to Tech Leadership | Bhavini Soneji00:39:32

We know diversity fuels innovation, so how do we bring diversity into engineering leadership? 

On this week’s episode of Dev Interrupted, Bhavini Soneji joins host Dan Lines for another installment in our series on the career journey of an engineering leader. Bhavini speaks to the synergy between diverse teams and enhanced performance, painting a vivid picture of creativity, insights, and knowledge sharing enriched by varied perspectives.

Bhavini connects these dynamics to a culture of converting intention into action, emphasizing that intentions are just the starting point. If companies are to follow through on their promises, they should apply lean product development principles to the way they think about diversity. 

In this must-listen episode, learn how to transform your company’s culture, goal-setting, and hiring practices. 

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31 Oct 2023Getting Unstuck in Your Career | Charles Max Wood00:35:51

Staying on top of emerging trends is difficult enough, so what should you do when your whole career feels, well, stuck? 

In this week's episode of Dev Interrupted, join co-host Conor Bronsdon and Charles Max Wood, CEO of Top End Devs, as they delve into overcoming career stagnation for developers. They discuss strategies to reignite momentum in your career, highlighting the importance of effectively showcasing your work, building strong networks, and committing to continuous learning. 

Whether you're a newcomer seeking direction or a seasoned professional aiming to stay competitive, this conversation offers valuable insights and practical tools to confidently navigate today's complex tech landscape and get 'unstuck' in your career. 

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07 Nov 2023Career Journey 6: Your Invitation to the Boardroom00:31:56

Ever wonder what it takes to make it to the boardroom? This week's Dev Interrupted is your invitation to the table.

Join us as Conor Bronsdon puts host Dan Lines in the hot seat to uncover the secrets to rising through the ranks—from IC to engineering leader with a voice in the board meetings. Together, they discuss balancing tough decisions, team well-being, and how to maintain your technical edge while being able to speak in business terms to your CEO.

Strap in for the grand finale of our series—it’s your backstage pass to the boardroom!

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14 Nov 2023Labs: Programmable Workflows & Policy-as-Code | Ben Lloyd Pearson00:22:11

With all of the hype around the future impacts of AI, it can be easy to overlook existing solutions that solve some of the biggest pain points faced by your engineering team. 

On this week’s episode of Dev Interrupted, co-host Conor Bronsdon and LinearB’s Head of Developer Relations, Ben Lloyd Pearson, discuss programmable workflows and how you can apply policy-as-code principles. 

Recorded live at the DevOps Enterprise Summit, Conor and Ben explore how gitStream’s programmable workflows can reduce manual effort, facilitate faster feedback loops, and improve developer experience.

They also touch on the gitStream's seamless integrations and its future enhancements.

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21 Nov 2023Wiring The Winning Organization | Author Dr. Steven J. Spear00:34:59

The story behind why some organizations win big and keep on winning.

This week, co-host Conor Bronsdon interviews Dr. Steven J. Spear, renowned MIT senior lecturer, founder, and author, to discuss the core principles from Dr. Spear's new book with Gene Kim, "Wiring The Winning Organization".

They delve into why some organizations consistently outperform others, highlighting how the best organizations create systems that enhance problem-solving through slowification, simplification, and amplification, aligning processes with cognitive strengths.

With case studies from NASA's Apollo missions to Apple's smartphone market dominance, the book is a must-read for those looking to harness collective ingenuity for exceptional achievements."

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28 Nov 2023What Engineering Leaders Can Expect In 2024 | Predictions from Ori Keren00:30:30

What trends do engineering leaders need to pay attention to, and how will they impact your teams in 2024?

This week, co-host Conor Bronsdon is joined by LinearB co-founder and CEO Ori Keren to discuss his predictions for next year. 

Together they discuss why dev team metrics are here to stay, why Ori doesn’t like the term ‘developer productivity’ [hint: he prefers ‘engineering efficiency’], how the rise of gen AI written code will create a problem for development pipelines everywhere, and the potential friction points inherent to remote work.

Ori concludes the episode by offering advice to engineering leaders and startup founders on the need to adopt a metrics program or risk getting left behind. 

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05 Dec 2023Wrong Fit, Right Fit | Author Dr. André Martin00:33:43

We are in the middle of a crisis of commitment in the workplace – 53% of managers are burnt out, 1 in 3 employees leave their jobs in the first 90 days, and an estimated $7.8 trillion in lost productivity is due to poor organizational fit.

On this week’s Dev Interrupted, we uncover the keys to a thriving workplace as co-host Conor Bronsdon is joined by Dr. Andre Martin, a seasoned organizational psychologist and author of the book 'Wrong Fit, Right Fit'.

Together, they share strategies to discern whether a job will be a right fit or a wrong fit and delve into how companies can align their structures with individual preferences to enhance employee engagement and productivity. This insightful conversation offers practical strategies for leaders and individuals alike to identify and cultivate the right fit for long-term success and fulfillment in their careers.

Order your copy today: Wrong Fit, Right Fit: Why How We Work Matters More Than Ever

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12 Dec 2023Protecting GitHub’s 100M Developers | Jacob DePriest VP, Deputy CSO00:37:10

What does protecting the more than 100 million developers on GitHub’s platform take? And what can your team learn from GitHub’s impressive security posture? 

On this week’s episode, co-host Conor Bronsdon is joined by Jacob DePriest, VP and Deputy Chief Security Officer at GitHub. Join them as they discuss Jacob's journey from the NSA to GitHub, delving into how AI impacts the security space and the future of Copilot's ever-expanding capabilities.

The conversation also explores how enhancing customer trust, investing in diversity within security teams, and bringing security to where developers work are critical in improving security industry-wide.

Whether you’re protecting dozens of users or millions, Jacob has practical advice for engineering leaders everywhere.

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19 Dec 2023Season 3 Finale: Best of 2023, a Glimpse into Season 4, and Holiday Cheer00:20:24

Hosts Dan Lines, Conor Bronson, and Ben Lloyd Pearson team up for a special holiday edition of Dev Interrupted.

In this season-ending episode, they revisit their favorite moments from Season 3 of the podcast,  share a glimpse of what listeners can expect in Season 4, and spread holiday cheer as they reflect on what they're thankful for.

The team is taking a week off to enjoy the holidays. We’ll see you back here on January 2nd for the start of Season 4!

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02 Jan 2024Wiring The Winning Organization pt. 2 | Gene Kim00:31:34

Season 4 kicks off with a conversation with Gene Kim, author of several renowned books, including "The Phoenix Project," "The DevOps Handbook," and most recently, "Wiring the Winning Organization."

In this episode, Gene candidly shares the trials behind writing what he considers one of his most challenging books, why it was a joy to partner with Steven Spear as a co-author, and the key principles needed for creating high-performing teams.

Illustrating these ideas, Gene and Conor draw on examples from diverse realms, including the intricacies of software development, the complexities of healthcare, the socio-technical system behind Amazon’s success, and everyday tasks like moving a couch.

Note: This conversation is a follow-up to last year's episode with Steven Spear. You can listen to Steven's episode here

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09 Jan 2024Scaling ChatGPT: Inside OpenAI's Rapid Growth and Technical Challenges | Evan Morikawa00:41:03

What can you learn from the scaling issues OpenAI experienced when Chat-GPT went viral? 

On this week’s episode, guest host Ben Lloyd Pearson is joined by Evan Morikawa, Engineering Manager at OpenAI. Join us for a first-hand look at the engineering challenges that came with Chat-GPT’s viral success, and the difficulties associated with scaling in response to the sudden platform popularity.

They also discuss misconceptions around generative AI, OpenAI’s reliance on GPUs to carry out their complex computations, the key role of APIs in their success, and some fascinating use cases they’ve seen implementing GPT-4.
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