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It doesn't matter if you're an evangelical Christian, Catholic, Agnostic, deconstructing Christian, atheist, exChristian, Jewish, Muslim or hundreds of other beliefs and labels; we are ready to laugh at you. Send us more stories in our links below.

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It's the second week of PRIDE and we've got your 2nd favorite redhead--April Ajoy--and her non-binary spouse Beecher.

We hear their story from Christian fundamentalists to Beecher coming to terms with being non-binary--all while April realizes she is bi-sexual. And their marriage works!

Caution little ears (why are you here anyway?), we discuss sex, toys, and other adventures.

PLEASE preorder April's book: Star Spangled Jesus! Let's beat Joel Osteen's book numbers.

You can find Beecher's feature film, shorts, and other works on their website.

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Ok, maybe it'll be bi-annual, we're not sure yet. We've taken your questions, both goofy and cerebral and done our doggone best. We love to connect to you all, so hope you enjoy it.

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If you want to know more about Voices and Faces, check out the website and contact Karen.

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What an amazing conversation Karen had with Jennifer Knapp. Once the star of Christian music, she now finds her place in LGBT advocacy.

Watch for the second part tomorrow, and the YouTube on Sunday!

Her new re-release of KANSAS is out now. You've got to check it out.

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PRIDE is over. But that doesn't mean we're done listening to people who survived evangelicalism and are now thriving as out LGBT people. Listen in on Karen's conversation with Mike Maeshiro, a former instructor at Bethel School of Supernatural Ministry and his journey to being an out gay man.

Find out more about him at https://www.mikemaeshiro.com/ and watch his roundtable conversation mentioned on the podcast HERE.

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We're back. Just in time for PRIDE. Mystery guests will be revealed soon!

And we'll also be on YouTube (episodes released here first then YouTube a few days later).

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Sorry about the technical delay. I promise, it's worth it!

Here is the rest of the conversation with LGBT advocate, Jennifer Knapp. Find her at JenniferKnapp.com.

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Bonnie brings you ANGLES the story behind the great band that never sounded like they sprung from church. Hear how they almost never were, and how we all knew someone like Bono in youth group.

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We're celebrating our LGBT followers the whole month of June. Whether you are part of the community or an ally like myself, listening to people's voices is an act of resistance in a time like this.

Drag Queen Flamy Grant hit national news when their song "Good Day" surged to the top of the Christian music charts. We hear how they grew up and what it took for them to come out as gay, and then begin a career as every bro-pastor's problem.

Please go find their new music--released this week! flamygrant.com/links

This recording will also be on YouTube 3 days after audio release.

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Here's the end of the rambling. I also talk about resource books. Hope this helps you out even if it's just to know there are other people out there similar to you.

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Dr. Bart Ehman’s NEW BOOK “Armageddon” is here!

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Ohhh, Karen's pissed at this one. Sean Feucht, a music guy from Bethel who takes his Airstream and patchouli across America with his "arrogant theology" is a true menace. Only HE can really impact people for God, you know. And he has an Instagram to prove it.

Listen, as well as get in contact with your city officials if he is coming to spread COVID-19 germs to young, idealistic people who gather at his concerts in your city. 

Not many "ministers" make the list of being physically harmful to people. This guy makes the list. 

It's Karen's solo time, so here's another true crime episode. Any time faith is part of the equation, our listeners know the mindset of the people involved more than the average person. This story is about the family of Chad Wallin-Reed and 6 young men out for a reckless time in California.

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Bonnie got upset over the degrading witnessing she received while getting her Covid test. Workplace witnessing is this week's topic. Does it happen where you work? Have you done it? 

One of our listeners gets the harddd sell from her boss. Plus, we find a very practical list of ways people can witness at work and on a school balcony.

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Karen tells Bonnie about the great, laughing movement that happened near a Toronto airport. Writhing. Rolling. We can thank the certifiable, dangerous Rodney Howard-Browne for starting what can only be labeled as a Christian niche market that makes sane people want nothing to do with the church.

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We've got cousins, kick-pleat skirts, and secular music. The therapy is going to be expensive, children.

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So We did where Bonnie lives, now it's time to check out Karen's neck of the woods. We've got Mary Winkler, the Bryon Yawn and Ben Zobrist story, plus some snakes.

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What is wrong with you all? Loved this batch of letters!

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Short-term mission trips are gearing up and high school kids are getting ready to save the world.

We bring in lessons from a recent episode of Nicole Sachs' podcast " The Cure for Chronic Pain," that helps put it all into perspective.

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Karen and Bonnie read a letter from a listener who had an unfortunate incident with a hymnal, they discuss the Satanic High Priest turned Christian comedian, Mike Warnke (all those monikers are LIES), and finish off with a discussion on body augmentation..

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This week we start out with some slut-shaming from the elderly and a hint for a new episode we're working on. Then we reprise our Kanye episode which includes our medical expertise. Enjoy!

OCT 2019

52 MIN

Karen and Bonnie discuss Kanye West’s Sunday Services going on around the country.

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Karen and Bonnie begin by trying to figure out what a Wonderwall is, reminisce about Saturday Night Live’s Shweddy Balls skit, and discuss writings on bathroom walls before getting down to professionally analyzing Kanye West.

Kanye’s new church services are in Calabasas, CA to Detroit to wherever he flies his choir to next. It’s a music-only service, which kills Bonnie. And he doesn’t even do Golddigger! It's all leading up to his new album release: Jesus is King.

They discuss Kanye’s bi-polar, liposuction, and criticism. Plus, something we didn't know is the Kardashian's previous involvement in another California church.

All we can say is #FreeKanye, because we feel like we’re watching a car wreck in slo mo.

Want Bonnie and Karen to give you an unexceptional, verrry incomplete run-down of the Jehovah's Witness religion, but with lots of celebrities? We heard your secret whispers and will grant it.

If not, "Beat It." Oh, we are killllling it.

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If you have to put a disclaimer on your church website to make sure you avoid liability for get-rich-quick schemes that go ...underwater, you're in trouble.

Bonnie tells Karen about how Bethel got scammed not once but twice. 

Thoughts and prayers.

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Karen tells Bonnie about Paula White, an evangelist who "led Trump to Christ," and has continued to be a big influence on him. It's a story few know about, but everything becomes clear once you do. 

Pics and more at https://deconversiontherapypodcast.com/2019/04/24/13-stop-believin-the-story-of-trump-and-paula-white/

Bonnie and Karen has a few false starts this week as they talk about church lock-ins. Join us as we tell you about them in real time. Horny kids, pizza, one bathroom, what could go wrong?

Lock-ins have evolved since we were teens, and now there are bouncy castles and kids suing the church for stupid youth minister pranks. They get bands, go to Walmart, go to malls, jump at one of those trampoline places for exxxactly 90 minutes.

Karen tells about her kids have gone to church lock-ins. They were amazing and huge with concerts and junk food. Then they returned home with church “dollars” they could buy cheap-ass toys at the church, to get them to return.

They read a letter from Stacey about her Jewish kids attending a Baptist church funeral. Culture shock. Then down the Christian funeral spiral Karen and Bonnie go, going off about how faith funerals are less about the dead and more about trying to convert the attendees. SUBMIT YOUR OWN FUNNY STORY.

Bonnie tells about how she screamed at a pious co-worker once and feels badly about it. Karen tells her the woman deserved it. Then Karen shares her giddy moment of finding out kids put condoms all over her neighborhood the day before there was going to be an outside Easter service.

Don't Be and Asshole!

Bye, now.

This week Karen and Bonnie do something a little different by honoring exvangelical author and thinker Rachel Held Evans who passed away a few days ago at the age of 37.

Rachel wrote the satirical book "A Year of Biblical Womanhood," where she tried to live as the Bible instructs women to be as a way to point out how ridiculous it is to follow the Bible to a T, but to follow the spirit of it. 

B and K take a swat at Franklin Graham's tweet wishing Melania trump a happy birthday, and calling her the classiest first woman the country has ever had.

Plus, they read a letter by The Graceful Atheist recounting his time as the MC of Action House, a program of hip and uber-cool church kids who reenact Christian music videos. Bonnie and Karen are as embarrassed for him as his wife is. There is also a cameo by Katy Perry in his story.

This week, Karen and Bonnie poke at Franklin Graham, one of the most misrable-seeming men to be filled with the joy of salvation.

Graham tweeted a happy birthday to Melania Trump, calling her the classiest first lady AMERICA HAS EVER HAD. Eat it, Mary Washington and Jackie Kennedy! Twitter did their thing and went after him. We’re sure he has to ask for repentance after seeing all the photos people responded with.

Bonnie can’t help thinking of Franklin, the puppet from Arrested Development. Our intro and outro music is an homage to that show.

 We go over how Franklin Graham got kicked out of school for keeping a coed out past curfew, a story Bonnie doesn’t totally believe. And, how the loving man of God publicly called for Pete Buttigieg to repent of his gayness.

Karen tells of staying at a beautiful castle in Colorado she didn’t know was the headquarters of the conservative college student group The Navigators. They also use it as a hotel. NO ALCOHOL ALLOWED. Karen died. Her funeral is Saturday.

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Bonnie and Karen discuss the Love Family cult, also known as The Church of Jesus Christ at Armageddon. They have first names like Logic and Submission and Smooth--what's not to love? And although they went a bit off the rails, the concept is pretty familiar. And it sounds a lot like the church with a capital C. 

Do we have a theme song for our Lettersodes? You be the judge.

Thanks to everyone who has supported us on Patreon. We have a special Q and A video up in there for our supporters. 

This month on our Lettersode, we have the trendiest priest around, Father Steve. In fact, it's quite the Catholic lettersode with a story about a bar in Atlanta run by a former divinity student (Sister Louisa's Church of the Living Room and Ping Pong Emporium, or simply Church) plus a tale about communion wafers.

Speaking of clergy, we hear from people who have left the ministry. If you need assistance when deconstructing, reach out to the organizations Recovering From Religion and The Clergy Project.

We end the episode with Brady Hardin dropping by from the podcast The Life After. 

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We have to admit, she's one of our favorite kooks. And she's up to more profiteering. 

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We're going to get a little more serious for this one, as we're all going through a time where we're surrounded by death. So, hopefully, you'll learn with us as we face some harsh truths but also some concepts that can bring us more peace.

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Listen to I was a Teenage Fundamentalist, anywhere you listen to podcasts.

It's another batch of your small "t" trauma letters. There is singing in this one, plus Muppet 

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Jews for Jesus. Bonnie and Karen spat over their right to exist.

As someone of 1% Jewish DNA, Karen explains the Jewish faith, especially Hasidic Jews for which she watched many YouTube videos. They both loved the Netflix series Unorthodox, and now know A. Lot.

Don't forget to write us your true, funny stories about growing up in church or the synagogue.

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If you listened to this episode when it aired in October of 2019, you are incredibly faithful or deranged. Enjoy Karen's bad audio and possible sinus infection. Ahhh, the good ol' days. Note: As time flies, this is before we learned the correct word for "gypsy" is Romani or traveler. We've learned a lot these last few years.

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The world seems like it's ending and that's triggering a lot of us who were told it was ending every single day.

Bonnie and Karen are here to reassure you it's not going to end. It's just really sucky.

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catch up on all the church news you don't want to know. Why do they keep doing crap? Why?? Someone teach them a hobby.

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It's Halloween. 2020. A week before the election. How much more can we take?

Hopefully, you enjoy this intellectual discussion on All Hallow's Eve.

Beyonce is the devil, Karen is in the Illuminati, and JFK Jr. is looking rough. It's the last installment of our Satanic Panic mishmash. We finally get to QAnon. Hoooboyyyy. 

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Bonnie fills Karen in on Jerry Falwell Jr., and the news that something is afoot in his world. The players are a pool boy, Jerry, Jerry’s wife, Michael Cohen and his plaid jacket, and Tom Arnold. Of course, Trump always shows up in anything we discuss when it comes to sketchy “Christians.” Falwell has the sanpaku, an eyeball thing Bonnie is obsessed with. Supposedly, he’s either an addict or crazzzzy.

The story’s still coming out, but there are some revealing pictures of Jerry Falwell Jr.’s wife, and also a friendship with the pool boy, who went on vacations with them. But it doesn’t stop there! Falwell invested 1.8 Million dollars in the SoBE hostel in Miami Beach that the pool boy started. Could this be why Falwell went from not supporting Trump for president to being all-in and making sure the evangelicals did, too?

 Enjoy a romp through this den of vice that is the Falwell hostel.

We also read a letter from Sara, who found herself in a cult when she attended a Pentecostal Bible college in Minnesota. It includes pie.

Various shout outs:

Southern Fried Crime Podcast

Twitter of Ghostwriter Tony Schwartz for Trump’s Art of the Deal

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We felt it was time for a cult episode and this one is crazy. Yes, the Children of God had stars like River and Joaquin Phoenix, and Rose McGowan in it, but how did the leader David Berg get his start?

Will you be shocked that it's crazzzzy? 

This is Part 1. 

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Who's kookier, or old cootier, Jim Bakker or Pat Robertson. We make them go head-to-head on this episode. We'll post polls on our social media things so you can vote. The winner will get nothing but their already deserved disgrace.

Who's kookier, or old cootier, Jim Bakker or Pat Robertson? We make them go head-to-head on this episode. We'll post polls on our social media things (Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter) so you can vote. The winner will get nothing but their already deserved disgrace.

Bonnie got so depressed reading about her guy, Pat Robertson, that she decided to just look up reviews for the Anne Frank book. This is the world we live in!

So we moved on the real event: The Kook-Off. Karen took Jim Bakker, once married to Tammy Faye, involved in a sex scandal with Jessica Hahn, jailed for 5 years for money doo-dah, now back on television with his new wife and selling buckets of goop for the coming END OF TIMES!

Bonnie takes on Pat Robertson. She feels the guy says things before he thinks them through and they get blown up by people who want to laugh at them. Karen says she is that person. Pat actually went to Yale and has a law degree, but he didn't pass the bar. He also says he was preoccupied with "the ladies" when he was a younger lad. Since then he's told people to stop their yapping about adulterous husbands and, of course, that every storm is the result of sin. Looking at you, gays!

Bonnie and Karen talk about the sex cult called the Rajneesh this week. If you haven’t watched the Netflix documentary Wild Wild Country, Bonnie goes over it while trying to capture the insanity.

Bagwan Shree Rajneesh, the guru, gathers up well-educated Western followers in Pune, India.

They then all move, with his Rolls Royces, to Antelope, Oregon. That’s when they take over the small town and things go to hell.

This story has orgies, robes, beavers in blenders and on women, bombs, poison, salad bars. It seems like a fictitious story, but it’s very real. Karen tells her own story of being a missionary in India and visiting the Rajneesh ashram with hopes that her presence and under-her-breath prayers will slay the devil and they’ll all repent.

You didn't think revivals only happened in Christianity, did you? Bonnie and Karen throw together some measly information for you to know what is happening now and what has happened before. It's almost as if history repeats itself. 

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Karen and Bonnie go through the lives and miracle healing powers of Kathrine Kuhlman and Benny Hill, no, Hinn. Are people really getting cured of cancer and broken backs and whatnot and various sundries? Why are all the people falling backwards when they get healed? And how in the world are these wheeler healers getting their own television shows when we don't have one?

Karen starts out with one of the best-known faith healers, Katherine Kuhlman. You might have never heard of her, but she birthed a whole litter of these guys. She was elegant and magnetic and also talked in a creepy voice.

She had her share of scandals, but we must say, being a divorced woman evangelist in the 60s with your own show isn't bad. 

Bonnie gets in to someone who followed Kuhlman, idolized her, studied her--Benny Hinn. You've seen him on television. He's the one people roll their eyes at when he makes a swath of people fall out on stage. 

Hinn got caught with televangelist Paula White a few years ago while in Italy. They

denied it. Then they didn't. Then they downplayed it. We don't care. At least the Kardashians admit their vice.

Hinn's nephew, Costi Hinn, has come out with a book. It's mainly for Christians, but it says all the things most people know. This is about money and power.

Mentioned on podcast: Josiah Hesse's Vice article about Jim Bakker.

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Inspired by the HBO film "The Eyes of Tammy Faye" with Jessica Chastain and Andrew Garfield, we DISCOVERED Tammy Faye. As in, we found out about a Tammy Faye we didn't ever pay attention to before. Enjoy.

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You all never disappoint. Thanks for sending us (Karen and Bonnie) your embarrassing stories about growing up in church and church schools. 

We have an all-female episode this week--Amy, Sara, and Jess.

If you are triggered by the letters VBS, you might want to prepare yourself. Another great batch of stories from listeners. Don't forget to send yours in.

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We get weekly requests to cover Bethel Church in Redding, CA. You probably know it by the story months ago of a toddler who died and the church believed she would be resurrected although days kept passing. Or perhaps it was from their outspokenness about conversion therapy for gays.

Karen tells about a woman who left their School of Supernatural Ministry, plus all the disasters that have happened with the students and church taking over the town of Redding.

Bonnie ends it with the best info on the church out there…Trip Advisor reviews.

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We almost named this "The D*ck Episode," because here they all are.

We start with possibly born-again wrestler Joey Ryan. I suggest you go google pics of this guy.

In steps Pastor Stewart-Allen Clark and him telling women to lose weight and putting Melania Trump as the ideal woman.

Mike Lindell makes a return with a viral pic of a bunch of people praying with his pillows.

Pastor "Pussy" Keith Craft pops in to just be a loser.

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We yell about Sean Feucht, Greg Locke, crazy school board fiascos that include Dwayne Larring from Audio Adrenaline and Sonicflood. Then we end it with "The Josh Harris Incident."

I swear men are so dramatic.

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It's here. Our gift to you is us waffling on about random things that are loosely connected to the largest holiday in the world. We give a shout-out to Josh Harris and Dave Warnock. There's some talk of Bethel church, statues that poop, and we even delve into literature. 

Have a great holiday. 

Some of your favorite podcasts are leaving you empty this time of year. Not us. Whoohooo. We leave you with our personal musings about the yays and icks of 2023. 

Here is a link to The Four Tendencies book we discuss.

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We had to do a round-up because so much stuff has hit the fan. We've taken the John Mulaney meeting Olivia Munn in church pretty hard. We'll also be voting on whether Karen should have called Josh Duggar a dick.

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Lenny Bruce had balls. Wow. He lived hard and fast and took American Christianity with him. 

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We want to thank Tracey for sponsoring this episode! You can now drop a one-time love offering in our plate here. 

The letters slayed us in the spirit this week. Keep it up!

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We read the letters you emailed to us about your cringy experiences in church, and this one has some horror stories.

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Bonnie and Karen are back to ramble about last year and this year. Low research is what we're after as we take a small mental break and prepare for some new episodes. 

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Another lettersode. Another group of f#ed up people. Wow, you guys. You hit it out of the park this week. Keep 'em coming. Link to send in your own stories is at the end.

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We took your suggestions on who we should do this year. These 2 kept getting mentioned. Plus, they keep showing up in the news. 

We have to say, they are both really gross, vile humans, but let's have fun anyway.

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It's actually People of Praise, the group Supreme Court Justice nominee Amy Coney Barrett is part of.

After the insanity of the debates and Trump getting COVID and us generally hating everyone, we enjoyed some banter before we dove into this charismatic Catholic group that is sooo fringe I don't think conservatives would be happy if they knew it all.

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How'd you like the He Gets Us Superbowl ads? Christians can't decide what they think...and they're a'fightin. Find out who and what are behind the campaign.

Rob Reiner's documentary "God and Country" about the dangerous rise of Christian Nationalism releases Friday, February 16th. Karen, with the help of journalist Chrissy Stroop, looks into it.

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I don't know if this is the Joel Osteen take you were looking for, but...

We has some recording issues, but hope you enjoy.

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The White Mikes episode. Please enjoy hearing the Watchman's Decree, if you haven't before. It's truly scary stuff. 

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We're starting our FIFTH year doing this podcast. We want to thank all of you for listening. It's been so much fun. 

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We must join the professionals like us and discuss the COVID-19. Of course, our profession is religious whack-a-doodles, so that’s what we’re gonna do. Here's some of the crap religious leaders are hawking. 

Seems it’s not a good time for Bonnie to have stopped drinking! She has no tennis to watch, either!

If you’re self-quarantining, what else do you have to do than to listen to useless podcasts.

We cover Jim Bakker and the FDA coming after him, the New Zealand pastor who preaches tithing Christians will be okay, Bethel Church, and our own former pastor.

Stay safe everyone! We'll see you on the other side.

Can you believe this is our 3rd year covering this satanic free-for-all? We read some listener letters, touch on good ol' Jesusween, and add in Folloween. 

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The results still aren't in. It's Thursday am and we wanted to record a short episode for our listeners.

Trump is suing everyone and Biden is at 254.

We're playing The Graceful Atheist podcast on the show today. A few months ago, David interviewed Karen. His podcast questions are smart and thought-provoking. We hope you enjoy it!

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We finally got to our most highly requested topic, Rachel Hollis, a well-known Christian-ish Influencer. Hope you enjoy.

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We've got 3 more letters from listeners to bless you with today. Enjoy!

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Can Bonnie and Karen top their porn episode? Well, it's going to take John Holmes to find out. Nope, whoops. That's Pete Holmes, your favorite ex-evangelical comedian. 

Bonnie goes over some of his book--Comedy, Sex, God--that will sound familiar to most of you. 

Time for more of that good ol' lettersode fun. 

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Yay! A guest. And Karen has bad audio.

Anyhoo, welcome our guest Jegaysus as we discuss conversion therapy after we all watched the movie Pray Away on Netflix. 

This is the abbreviated audio. We'll release an extended one later this week. 

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We're on Fake Break (TM) for a few weeks, but that doesn't mean you won't get new content. Each week we'll update you on an older episode. This week is Trump and Paula White. 

Have they disappeared? Afraid not. The plotting continues.

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Bonnie covers the media protest that broke the internet, whoops, the newspapers in 1992--Sinéad O'Connor's performance on Saturday Night Live. Plus, we get into Madonna, Joe Pesci, Frank Sinatra, MC Hammer and David Spade.

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Did you think we'd pass up discussing the new FX Hillsong documentary on Hulu? Au contraire. The gang's all here--Karen, Bonnie, Carl Lentz, Brian Houston...

Bonnie hasn't seen it, so Karen unleashes the Kraken. Thanks for listening.

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WIN a celebrity saint's candle. Instruction in episode. Deadline is Halloween! Email: deconversiontherapypodcast at gmail dot com.

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We got us one of those conservative, angry, evangelical white men who think we're evil. This is a gossipy episode where you see how much we sacrifice for you, dumplings.

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Sorry for the delay. We were being tested, but we came out triumphant. Now, time to hear about condoms and ouija boards. 

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Happy Halloween! Feel free to tag our Instagram if you want to be featured in costume on our stories.

Bonnie and Karen take you into the spooky world of spiritualism, ghost stories, and Princess Diana, the only way two women who would rather laugh than research can.

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We had such a great time on the podcast Cheers to Leaving, that we wanted to play it for you. And go follow Rachael's podcast. 

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If you'd like to listen to the first part, go back. If you want to hear it in full, head to MindShift Podcast! "Who would you like to punch in the throat?"

Clint, Karen, and Bonnie go over the ridiculous and serious. And all your favorites show up: Carl Lentz, Sean Feucht, and Keneth Copeland.

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What a couple of weeks it's been here in Tennessee. Karen catches you up on the incestuous marriage of church and state. Bonnie tells you about Carl Lentz's new job, and we catch up with litigation and scandals that plague the Church with a capital C.

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We're catching you up on the latest from Greg Locke, Gwen Shamblin, Jerry Falwell Jr., Megadeath, and various church-related stories.

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We're coming back, baby. And these letters from you are the perfect way to ease back into the shitshow that's religion.

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We're back with another great run-down of a once-prohibited comedian. This time Bonnie tells us about George Carlin, someone Karen avoided because he was demonic. 

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If you didn't hear Part 1, go back. We could do 10 parts on this dude and his ickiness.

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Chris Coleman was the head of security for Joyce Myer, the televangelist. In 2009 his family was murdered. Was the perpetrator after Joyce?

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Men. Men. Dominion. Whine. Whine. 

Come listen about this new dating site for men to hold onto power over women. We've looked behind the veil of the company, and it has come up...short.

Plus, check out the new merch! 20% Off May 13-16th!

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Lori Alexander, The Transformed Wife, wants you to be fit, homeschool, be free from tattoos, and serve your husband. And Beach Preacher wants you to cover yourself at the beach so he doesn't get aroused.

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Karen had to edit down all of Bonnie's laughing in this one. You all are great. This episode of listener letters covers another tale of demons at summer camp, blessings from over the pond, and sexy soda. 

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Enjoy the sound of Bonnie's neighbor Ray's leaf blowing, and Martha, her dog, scratching.

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Anddd, how was your Christmas? 

Karen and Bonnie talk about how theirs were. Plus, we discuss some great gift ideas for next year. Karen's laugh is basically her inhaling air, so when you think your phone battery is dead--it's her losing it.

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We're back, reading your letters. Sode-ing it up. In this episode, we learn about them Catholics, what a disaster Karen was in school, and that Pastor Gary is a dick.

We're now adding transcripts to our website. They suck, but we'll improve on them.

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A few months ago we went on the "new" podcast Growing up Christian. Sam and Casey were so fun that we wanted to repost it on our platform. Go check them out. 

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This was eye-opening to me. Karen. You asked questions and as I spoke, I learned so much about what I thought. Thank you. 

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