
DCD Zero Downtime: The Bi-Weekly Data Center Show (DatacenterDynamics)
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14 Dec 2023 | Episode 46 - Telecoms in troubling times with Ineke Botter | 00:54:23 | |
Ever wonder what it would be like to be a CEO at a telecom company in a country that is at war? | |||
30 Nov 2023 | Episode 45 - Construction and resilience amid power instability with Neal Kalita, NTT GDC | 00:47:00 | |
The European data center market has a forecasted take-up of 440MW for 2023. But within the context of erratic power availability, moratoriums, and the need to move to renewable energy, the FLAP-D markets are facing several challenges. In this episode we talk to Neal Kalita about the obstacles facing those looking to build in Europe, and what the future holds for the region. Tune in for the conversation where we find the solution to keeping up with the pace of demand while prioritizing sustainability. | |||
20 Apr 2023 | Episode 30 - The state of cloud gaming and VR with Omdia's George Jijiashvili | 00:57:50 | |
Cloud gaming was heralded as the future of games, and was set to become a major data center workload. Now, after the death of Google Stadia and layoffs at Amazon's Luna, what's left for data center gaming? We catch up with Omdia's George Jijiashvili to discuss all things gaming, as well as VR, AR, and a dash of the metaverse. | |||
10 Mar 2022 | Episode 4 - Wes Swenson, Novva Data Centers | 00:43:35 | |
Data center automation is one thing, but what about automatons walking in the data halls? Robots in the data center are often discussed but rarely make it beyond the pilot project stage. Those that are deployed are often closer to Short Circuit’s Johnny 5 than Neill Blomkamp's CHAPPiE. Utah-based Novva data centers has deployed Boston Dynamics' Spot robot dog – possibly the most advanced robot that is currently commercially available – at its flagship data center and is looking to create a replicable and scalable model for deploying robots in its other current and future facilities. DCD discusses the pains of deploying a robot that is still a way off enterprise-ready plug-and-play with CEO Wes Swenson along with the lack of a wider support ecosystem for robotic deployments, and the future role of humans in the data center. | |||
11 Jan 2024 | Episode 47 - Hydrogen data centers get real, with Yuval Bachar, ECL | 00:37:29 | |
At the start of 2023, Yuval Bachar told us about his latest project - to build off-grid, hydrogen-powered data centers. As 2023 came to an end, he was back to tell us he'd done it. He's got 1MW of capacity fed by hydrogen in Mountain View California, and he's telling potential customers he can build the same thing anywhere you can get hydrogen shipped by pipe or tanker. He's keen on the benefits. No long waits for power distribution, no struggles getting permits for diesel. And the building is quick and cheap too. He can make them with a 3D concrete printer - which incidentally is environmentally better than tilt-up building, he says. He picked up the Environmental Impact prize at this year's DCD Awards, and joined the podcast to give us some more details on what he has done.... and what's coming next | |||
07 Jul 2022 | Episode 11 - Understanding Bitcoin power use after the crypto crash, with Alex de Vries | 01:01:58 | |
Cryptocurrency valuations are in freefall, causing mining to halve. But Bitcoin still consumes as much power as entire nations, amid a climate emergency. We talk to Digiconomist's Alex de Vries about the history of crypto, the crash, and learn just how much power the sector uses - and what it means for the planet. | |||
17 Aug 2023 | Episode 38 - ICT Environmentalism and the Sustainability Game, with Hunter Vaughan and Nicole Starosielski | 00:31:53 | |
If you want to make infrastructure sustainable, you need to be very careful what words you use. That's what Hunter Vaughan and Nicole Starosielski found, through their involvement in a project to make subsea cables sustainable. Words like "sustainability" and "climate neutral" can mean different things, depending on who is talking. And if what you say is vague, then your efforts to be sustainable can get misdirected, or diverted into greenwash, or simply end up (like the words) meaningless. Hunter Vaughan of the University of Cambridge and Nicole Starosielski of the University of California, Berkeley are part of the Sustainable Subsea Network. They are also co-authors of a paper called ICT Environmentalism and the Sustainability Game, which looks at how players like Greenpeace used language to build pressure for green infrastructure. They spoke to DCD about both: how we communicate about sustainability, and how sustainable our communications systems are. | |||
06 Mar 2025 | Episode 74 - Spreading awareness of the data center industry with Carrie Goetz | 00:37:40 | |
Carrie Goetz is the definition of an industry veteran. With decades of experience, she now works as a “fractional CTO” via her StrategITcom company, but over the years she has done a lot of outreach work to bring in new faces to the sector, not to mention the several books she has written. Tune in to hear about Goetz’ career so far, and her perspective on how we can bring in a new generation of data center obsessives | |||
28 Apr 2022 | Episode 7 - Biodiversity & bees with Michelle Wallace, Host in Ireland | 00:33:24 | |
It's easy to think that sustainable data centers are all about reducing carbon. In fact the earth faces a biodiversity crisis as big as the climate crisis. Data centers can have a role in fighting to prevent extinctions, and produce a lot of other benefits in the process. When you build a data center, you have to see the unintended consequences, says Michelle Wallace of data center promotion group Host In Ireland. Build badly, and local species will suffer. But it's also easy to get it wrong, to put in measures that don't help. Host in Ireland went to Ireland's National Biodiversity Data Centre, found how important pollinators are, and put together a set of action to protect and promote them, DCs for Bees is now having influence beyond Ireland, and beyond the data center industry. It's being followed up with a scheme to plant orchards - and there are more ideas beyond that. This is the Zero Downtime episode which could make your data center into a haven for nature, and change your life for the better! | |||
20 Feb 2025 | Episode 73 - Understanding Stargate's Masayoshi Son, with Lionel Barber | 00:48:45 | |
From visionary bets in Yahoo, Alibaba, and Arm, to disastrous gambles on WeWork and Vision Funds, SoftBank's Masayoshi Son has defied both logic and expectations. Self-styled as a modern Genghis Khan, the once richest man in the world has rolled the dice yet again, plowing money into OpenAI and Stargate. What can we learn from his past? We talk to Lionel Barber, author of Gambling Man: The Wild Ride of Japan’s Masayoshi Son. | |||
18 Apr 2024 | Episode 53 - The UK data center market with Luisa Cardani, TechUK | 00:35:52 | |
Bringing the L to FLAP-D, the UK has a prominent data center market. But like all other tier-one markets, London is struggling with space and power capacity. Because of this, the UK's data center industry will have to diversify, all while meeting increasingly regimented regulations. In this episode, we talk to trade association TechUK's Luisa Cardani about what the UK's data center industry is currently experiencing, from upcoming rules and regulations to emerging new markets, to the association's role in influencing policy. | |||
15 Sep 2022 | Episode 16 - Green software with David Mytton, CEO and co-founder of Console | 00:36:58 | |
Efforts to reduce the environmental impact of our digital world tend to start with the cooling systems at data centers, and rarely get any further. The tech industry created PUE as a simple metric which could express how efficiently power is delivered to the racks, but did not consider what happens to that power when it gets there. That’s not good enough, because poorly written software could be wasting that power in unnecessary loops and fruitless calculations. The Green Software Foundation has emerged to propose a measure of Software Carbon Intensity that will tell developers if their software is a good planetary citizen. But this is an issue that gets more complex, the more you look at it. Software that completes quickly must save energy, but what if the software is running on multiple hardware platforms? What about the embodied energy of the hardware you choose for it? David Mytton is Co-founder & CEO of Console, a company that makes tools for developers. He’s also looked at the energy used in technology, bothy at Imperial College and at the Uptime Institute. He’s now working on a PhD in sustainable computing at the University of Oxford. He talks to us about the prospects for Green Software finding its way from academic research, through sponsorship by large vendors, into the hands of developers and consumers. | |||
04 May 2023 | Episode 31 - Mark Bjornsgaard of Deep Green on heating swimming pools with data center heat | 00:40:44 | |
In March this year, a swimming pool in Devon, UK, was the unlikely setting for the most widely covered data center story (so far) of 2023. A small immersion-cooled high-performance computing module from Deep Green is giving its heat to the swimming pool, saving Exmouth Leisure Centres £20,000 ($24,000) per year. It's not the first time data center waste heat has been harnessed. It's not even the first time it has heated a swimming pool. But Deep Green CEO Mark Bjornsgaard tells us that, this time, all the pieces are in place to make the idea mainstream. In the future, he asks, why should the heat from any computing be wasted? Put it another way: if all our heating needs were produced by GPUs and CPUs, that would provide way more computing power than we currently know how to use. | |||
01 Dec 2022 | Episode 21 - How to handle an outage, with Cloudflare CTO John Graham-Cumming | 00:28:52 | |
In this episode, we talk to Cloudflare's CTO John Graham-Cumming about how to respond to an outage at your company. We also discuss why the company bans the use of the word "Edge," and talk about the company's 'Supercloud.' | |||
28 Sep 2023 | Episode 41 - Do data centers truly bring economic benefits to their location? With Max Schulze, SDIA | 00:31:21 | |
Data centers have outgrown their anonymity. They are large enough consumers of energy and space, that they have to enter the political landscape and justify their existence. But how do we know if a data really brings benefits to its location? In some places (like London), it appears that they soak up grid connection capacity and block housing projects. In others (like Denmark and Ireland) they use renewable energy and jeopardize local decarbonization targets. It's not easy to know the net benefits brought by a data center, because much of what it does is in the virtual world, and is delivered to people far away. Max Schulze has some thoughts on how to start working out the real benefits of a data center - and we hope for more input from DCD readers and listeners. | |||
11 Mar 2022 | Bonus Episode: Understanding Internet Connectivity in Ukraine & Russia, with Kentik's Doug Madory | 00:55:11 | |
DCD's Sebastian Moss talks to Doug Madory, the director of Internet analysis at Kentik, about the developing situation in Ukraine and Russia. We discuss telco disruptions, misinformation, false BGP hijacks, Cogent and Lumen's disconnection claims, whether Russia could drop off from the Internet, and more. | |||
29 Jun 2023 | Episode 35 - Taking inspiration from the GSMA in a push to drive the broadband industry with Martin Creaner | 00:36:56 | |
The global interests of the mobile industry are represented by the GSM Association (GSMA). This governing body was established in 1995 to support mobile operators using the GSM (Global System for Mobile Communications) standard for cellular networks. It has become synonymous with the mobile industry and has driven it forward through industry programs, working groups, and initiatives. The GSMA’s legacy has even inspired something similar but for broadband instead, with Martin Creaner, director general of the Worldwide Broadband Association (WBBA) seeking to use this model. Can the GSMA’s model be replicated for broadband as well? Creaner explains why the need for a governing body representing broadband interests is important. “It’s all about creating a member-led organization that creates a platform to drive broadband cooperation and partnership across the whole industry to accelerate broadband adoption everywhere in the world,” said Creaner. | |||
10 Jan 2025 | DCD Bali Bonus: Damon Lim, datacenterHawk | 00:22:37 | |
Rounding out our Bali event bonus content, we chat to Damon Lim, regional director for Asia Pacific at datacenterHawk | |||
12 May 2022 | Episode 8 - The data center gender gap with Jacqueline van de Werken, Leaseweb | 00:46:27 | |
In this episode of the Zero Downtime podcast, we speak to Leaseweb general counsel Jacqueline van de Werken about how to encourage more women in the data center and cloud industry, and how to retain those that do join. | |||
15 Dec 2022 | Episode 22 - Understanding IT Efficiency with Rich Kenny, Interact managing director | 00:31:12 | |
For years, operators have been trying to make their data centers more efficient by optimizing the cooling and power distribution in the facility - and have more or less ignored the IT equipment in the racks. PUE - the most popular data center metric - simply optimized the ancillary equipment, trying to approach a "perfect" figure of 1.0, where all the power goes into the rack. But what if you could measure the power used by your IT equipment, run comparative tests, and find out how to reconfigure, replace or update your hardware to improve energy efficiency? Rich Kenny claims to be able to do that. Interact started as a project by refurbished hardware supplier TechBuyer, aiming to prove that refurbished hardware could be as good as new kit, and grew into a consultancy that compares hardware configurations, and gives guidance on how to do more with less hardware. Server manufacturers do their business on the basis that new hardware is always more efficient than old hardware, and colo providers would rather you didn't find out that you could do away with half the racks you are renting. Kenny is shining a light into a dark corner that has not had enough exposure, dissecting the 1 in that PUE figure. He could be about to step on some industry toes... | |||
14 Nov 2024 | Episode 68 - How cryogenic CMOS could solve the AI energy challenge, with Synopsys' Jamil Kawa and William Ruby | 00:42:08 | |
Earlier this year, Synopsys' R&D team developed a new model that allows design teams to create and test circuits at cryogenic temperatures. In this episode, Jamil Kawa and William Ruby from Synopsys talk about the cryogenic CMOS (complementary metal-oxide-semiconductors) research project and how it could support the development of low-power chips to help solve the worsening AI energy crisis. | |||
18 Oct 2024 | Episode 66 - Making a mark on India, with Surajit Chatterjee, CapitaLand Investment | 00:32:19 | |
India’s data center industry is rapidly growing, and companies are taking notice. Singapore-based CapitaLand Investment is currently developing major data centers throughout the country in Mumbai, Chennai, Hyderabad, and Bangalore. While these developments are running smoothly, building large data center campuses in any location is never simple. We talk with managing director Surajit Chatterjee about the challenges and opportunities presented by India, its choices of location, development process, goals for sustainability and the investment company's future plans. | |||
28 Nov 2024 | Episode 69 - Diamonds are for semiconductors with Diamond Quanta CEO and founder Adam Khan | 00:33:06 | |
While silicon is still the semiconductor king, alternative chip materials are increasingly being sought in order to find their successor and address some of the biggest challenges facing the chips of today. In today’s episode of Zero Downtime, CEO and founder of Diamond Quanta, Adam Khan, discusses the benefits of diamond semiconductor technology, its applications, and the work Diamond Quanta is undertaking. | |||
08 Aug 2024 | Episode 61 - Data centers down under with David Hirst, Macquarie Data Centres | 00:26:53 | |
Data center markets vary wildly by location, and in this episode we head "down under" to the wonderful land of Australia. With the AI boom in full across the globe, Australia is no different and experiencing increased demand. We talk to David Hirst, who heads up Australia's Macquarie Data Centers, about the trends he is seeing in the country, how Macquarie is approaching AI, and the company's recent news, including its forthcoming IC3 Super West data center. | |||
13 Jun 2024 | Episode 57 - Precision cooling and political optimism, with David Craig, Iceotope | 00:43:42 | |
With AI dramatically driving up density, data center cooling is getting much more interesting. Iceotope is one of the companies exploring the most efficient and sustainable way to cool down data centers - and their solution is precision cooling. On the face of it, precision cooling resembles immersion cooling - viscous liquid? Check. Bathtub-like container? Check. But as CEO David Craig explains, it is actually a far more efficient solution. Beyond the world of liquid cooling, we talk about political optimism and how the next generation will hopefully help us all towards a greener world. | |||
03 Apr 2025 | Episode 76 - Start(ing) again in Portugal with Omer Wilson, Start Campus | 00:35:47 | |
The start campus data center project has big dreams, aiming to build a 1.2GW data center campus in Sines, Portugal. While things have progressed on the campus, its entanglement in the corruption probe that saw the Prime Minister resign and led to the arrest of several of Start’s executives including then CEO Afonso Salema caused some hiccups. With the charges now dropped (and a new CEO in place) and the first data center on the campus live, Start is back on the grind to see the project through to fruition. Omer Wilson, chief marketing officer at Start Campus, talks to DCD about the project, and addresses the issue of starting again, after such a disruption. | |||
12 Jul 2023 | Episode 36 - Developing Internet protocols with Mirjam Kuhe, RIPE | 00:36:02 | |
How does the Internet keep running? A close-knit community of engineers has been developing and supporting the protocols that support it for more than forty years. During that time, new Internet services have emerged and scaled beyond recognition, and new features have been added, all without breaking the whole system. Mirjam Kuhne has been closely involved with this for 20 years, and in 2020 became chair of the European forum for Internet development - RIPE (Réseaux IP Européens, French for "European IP Networks"). Since then, Internet services have become crucial to the continued operation of society during the pandemic, and European Internet services have faced unprecedented technical and political challenges during the war in Ukraine. Mirjam says the protocols take care of themselves. What you need is a community of motivated engineers to maintain them. RIPE is open to new members, and when you hear how it all works, why wouldn't you get involved? | |||
10 Feb 2022 | Episode 2 - Max Schulze, the Sustainable Digital Infrastructure Alliance | 00:34:27 | |
Data centers are about as efficient as they ever can be, in terms of delivering power to servers and keeping them cool, so what's the next step to sustainable digital infrastructure? There is a lot of talk about reusing the wasted heat that facilities produce, but this seems like a hard job when all too often they can't give it away for free. Max Schulze is the founder of the Sustainable Digital Infrastructure Alliance (SDIA), a group of stakeholders aiming to achieve a sustainable digital infrastructure by 2030. He thinks the answer to heat reuse is economics, not engineering. And when we've sorted that out, he foresees that the big cloud providers will be disaggregated, and the cloud will become the same kind of market as the electricity grid. | |||
25 Jul 2024 | Episode 60 - Verizon on preparing its network for natural disasters, with Mark Paff and Cory Davis | 00:38:30 | |
During a natural disaster, networks often go down. This can massively impact rescue missions in some cases. The importance of network operators and the role they play in responding to unpredictable moments is something that should be highlighted.
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27 Feb 2025 | Bonus Episode - The need for basic science research, with Vint Cerf | 00:29:13 | |
US scientific research institutions are under attack. DOGE-led cuts to National Science Foundation funding, caps on indirect research costs, firings at the National Institutes of Health, layoffs at the Department of Energy, and more will profoundly weaken the US' scientific standing. We speak to the 'father of the Internet' Vint Cerf, co-developer of the TCP/IP protocol, about why the Internet had to come out of government-backed research, what he learned from his time at the National Science Board, and how we can win back our future. | |||
15 Nov 2022 | Episode 20 - Talking photonic computing with Lightmatter CEO Nick Harris | 00:30:52 | |
Can light be used to compute? We talk to Nick Harris, CEO of chip startup Lightmatter, about how the company hopes to harness photons for AI computing and as a data center interconnect. | |||
23 Feb 2023 | Episode 26 - There's something about Maryland, with Quantum Loophole CEO Josh Snowhorn | 00:47:02 | |
As land and power in Virginia's Loudoun County become increasingly scarce, data center developers are seeking fresh ground on which build. While many are moving south within Virginia to the likes of Prince William County, Quantum Loophole is hoping to lure companies north into Maryland. A former aluminum smelting works, the company's maiden campus is reportedly luring cloud companies and the hyperscale developers serving them on a huge scale. CEO Josh Snowhorn talks us through the company's history and its 2,000+acre gigawatt project located just north from Loudoun across the Potomac river. | |||
31 Jul 2023 | Episode 37 - Actions speak louder than code with Anne Currie, Green Software Foundation | 00:36:12 | |
If you think transitioning the tech sector to net zero is all about renewable energy and heat reuse, think again. Small changes in software could make entire data centers redundant - for a much bigger saving for the planet. Green Software is not just about more efficient code, says Anne Currie. Rewriting everything in C might cut energy use - but it would destroy your company. As a leader in the Green Software Foundation, and a seasoned green developer and entrepreneur, Anne has much better ideas. She is working with Sarah Hsu and Sara Bergman, on Building Green Software, an O'Reilly book about what green software really means, and how we can achieve it. Find out more in this podcast. | |||
18 Aug 2022 | Episode 14 - Building facilities for Google with Sarah Godbehere | 00:32:32 | |
What's it like building facilities for Google, in the epicenter of data center construction - Northern Virginia? Sarah Godbehere has spent the last three years managing construction on a Google campus in Northern Virginia. She tells us what it's like to be a young woman in an industry full of older men, and shares how she turns potential conflicts by asking the right questions. | |||
07 Apr 2022 | Episode 6 - Astrid Wynne Rogers, TechBuyer | 00:39:32 | |
Data center operators who want to be sustainable tend to focus in on carbon - but there are a lot more elements in the Periodic Table, And as we progress towards sustainability, we are going to have to consider all of them. In this podcast, Astrid Wynne Rogers, sustainability lead at TechBuyer tells us why we should pay close attention to the lifecycle of our physical servers and the other equipment in our facilities. It takes a lot of materials and energy to make equipment, and keeping it out of the waste stream could avoid wasting those resources. But there's more to it than sticking it in a skip for recycling. The circular economy has to join up. With a value put on refurbished equipment, and people actively working to reuse and extend that kit. It used to be said that replacing old kit with new always saved energy, because Moore's law meant the new equipment was much faster. That is no longer the case, and TechBuyer did the research to prove it. TechBuyer's paper is available here from IEEE Transactions on Sustainable Computing or here from Techbuyer. Want another reason to increase your hardware's life? It's a powerful way to reduce "Scope 3" emissions from your supply chain. And you can't get to Net Zero without dealing with Scope 3. | |||
09 Jan 2025 | DCD Bali Bonus: Sumit Mukhija, STT GDC India | 00:25:08 | |
At our Bali event, we spoke to Sumit Mukhija, at the time the CEO of ST Telemedia Global Data Centres India | |||
06 Sep 2024 | Episode 63 - Growing the workforce with Nabeel Mahmood, Nomad Futurist | 00:35:04 | |
We are all acutely aware that the data center industry has an aging, and thus thinning, workforce. But what can we do about it? | |||
18 May 2023 | Episode 32 - Underground data centers with Andrew Bourget, Eccus | 00:28:38 | |
Having trouble finding a location for your data center project? This DCD podcast could have the answer. Build underground. Andrew Bourget of Swiss engineering firm Eccus has a design for a 2MW data center built in an underground tunnel - and he can dig that tunnel wherever you want it, even under existing buildings.
Time will tell. He's currently working on projects in Switzerland and France - with his eye on London, where the clay subsoil is apparently ideal for underground data center vaults. | |||
19 Oct 2023 | Episode 42 - The irrepressible Bill Kleyman | 00:58:34 | |
We talk to Bill Kleyman, now at machine learning company Neu.ro, about his lengthy data center career. How did he get into the sector, what did he learn at Switch, and how does he balance life and travel? Tune in to find out. | |||
19 Sep 2024 | Episode 64 - Iceotope's David Craig on retirement and life after data centers | 00:53:45 | |
Iceotope's David Craig returns to DCD Zero Downtime as he prepares to hand in his badge and gun. We talk what's next for Craig, and how he has seen the industry change and mature during his lengthy run. | |||
15 Jul 2024 | Episode 59 - Entering the cloud market as a new player, with Cory Hawkvelt, CTO of NexGen Cloud | 00:35:03 | |
With the cloud market already over-saturated, it is hard to imagine how a new company can make its mark. NexGen Cloud is seeking to do just that, with plans to build a sustainable cloud specializing in HPC and GPU infrastructure called "super cloud." We talk about how NexGen is going to achieve this, the steps taken thus far and why the company thinks it is a solid competitor for some of the bigger players. | |||
16 Nov 2023 | Episode 44 - Data centers going nuclear, with Tony Grayson, Compass Datacenters | 00:54:54 | |
Data centers need to be more sustainable, but finding consistent and powerful energy resources can be a challenge. Increasingly, we are seeing nuclear entering the conversation, in the form of Small Modular Reactors (SMRs). But these aren't without their own controversies. In this episode, we talk with Compass Datacenters' Tony Grayson to discuss the future of SMRs, the challenges and opportunities, and the role we can expect them to play in the world of data centers. | |||
22 Aug 2024 | Episode 62 - Using data center heat to grow algae with Linda Lescuyer, Data4 | 00:30:35 | |
Data center operators are getting serious about waste heat and, more specifically, what to do with it.
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23 Jun 2022 | Episode 10 - Alex Cruz Farmer on the experience of working during lockdown | 00:31:11 | |
Working from home expanded massively during the pandemic - but were we ready for such a massive change? The proportion of remote workers grew from 17% of all employees worldwide in 2019 to 32% but the companies weren't fully ready for the change and collaboration tools were often pushed beyond what they were designed for. Alex Cruz Farmer of Cisco ThousandEyes has the tools to look objectively at the user experience and talks to us about how we can improve it. | |||
09 Jun 2022 | Episode 9 - Hydrogen with Mark Monroe, Microsoft | 00:36:10 | |
The world needs hydrogen as part of the replacement for fossil fuels - and data centers could be the catalyst for that. Mark Monroe, Principal Engineer at Microsoft, explains how the hydrogen economy works. He shows us that hydrogen is not just a proven alternative to diesel for backup, but brings other benefits with it. If data centers switch this small part of their energy needs to hydrogen, this could enable much larger industries to get started - and catalyze a hydrogen economy | |||
13 Oct 2022 | Episode 18 - The origin of the Internet of Things with Peter Lewis | 00:44:58 | |
Most people think the Internet of Things is a recent idea, maybe dating to around the year 2000. In fact, the idea is some 15 years older than that. In 1985, the Internet was officially two years old. It linked up some 2000 hosts, and a handful of people used email. In that year, cellular phones were the size of bricks, and almost no one had one. And yet, in 1985, Peter T Lewis predicted the two could be combined, so devices could communicate over wireless links. "I predict that not only humans, but machines and other things will interactively communicate via the Internet," he said. "The Internet of Things, or IoT, is the integration of people, processes, and technology with connectable devices and sensors to enable remote monitoring, status, manipulation, and evaluation of trends of such devices." Listen to our podcast to find out how Lewis made this astonishingly accurate prediction, years ahead of his time. in a speech to the Congressional Black Caucus Foundation in 1985. We also find out how his ideas were almost forgotten, and what he thinks of today's IoT. | |||
02 May 2024 | Episode 54 - Industry-wide sustainability with John Booth, Carbon3IT | 01:00:34 | |
Sustainability needs to be applied at all levels of the data center industry, and we are not doing enough, says John Booth of Carbon3IT. In this episode of Zero Downtime, we sit down with sustainability consultant John Booth to talk about how he got where he is in his career, and the fundamental sustainability issues that he is seeing in the data center industry. We also talk about a past trip to Belarus that proved more exciting than expected. Tune in now for the latest episode. | |||
03 Oct 2024 | Episode 65 - Connecting the land, the sea, and AI, with Gil Santaliz, CEO of NJFX | 00:28:34 | |
When Gil Santaliz first founded NJFX, he saw an opportunity to create an environment where data centers and cable landing stations could co-exist on the same campus. But even he could not predict how the emergence of AI and Edge technology has changed and developed conventional cable landing stations for the better. We talk to NJFX about the history of NJFX, the importance of colocation cable landing stations, and the future of AI and subsea infrastructure. | |||
04 Aug 2022 | Episode 13 - Carbon accounting and 24x7 green energy with Simone Accornero, FlexiDAO | 00:35:44 | |
When a data center firm claims to be 100 percent carbon neutral, can we believe them? Does every electron used in that data come from a solar panel or a wind farm? Until we have reliable carbon accounting, we won't know for sure, and operators will continue to rely on renewable energy certificates (RECs) which match energy consumption over a year, instead of hour by hour. Simone Accornero, CEO of FlexiDAO says we need "RECs on steroids" to move to hourly carbon accounting, and a blockchain-based protocol can deliver this without costing the earth in energy overheads. Data centers are a small part of the global electricity market, Accornero says they are ideally suited to drive that market to better carbon accounting, and renewable generation which better matches electricity consumption. | |||
31 Aug 2023 | Episode 39 - How will we start to use hydrogen? With Mark Monroe | 00:33:35 | |
In 2022, Mark Monroe's podcast about hydrogen was one of our most popular podcasts ever. At Microsoft, Mark had just made a prototype hydrogen fuel cell UPS system that could potentially replace diesel generators to provide low-carbon backup power at data centers. One year on, he's back for some more detail. A hydrogen economy will need a distribution system - but will that look like a power network, a gas grid, or a system of trucks? Data centers won't be the first big users of hydrogen: Mark tells us where it will take off. This year, we've heard stories of natural hydrogen mined from underground. Mark assesses that prospect, along with the other sources of hydrogen, and suggests that the new energy source could rewrite the world's map of energy providers. Listen to our talk with Mark to find out where and when you will start using hydrogen. | |||
08 Jan 2025 | DCD Bali Bonus: Darren Webb, Evolution Data Centers | 00:12:20 | |
At our Bali event, we spoke to Darren Webb, co-founder and CEO of SE Asian market-focused Evolution Data Centers | |||
24 Mar 2022 | Episode 5 - Holland Barry, Cyxtera | 00:43:30 | |
CTOs have traditionally been key positions for research-driven software and technology companies. As colocation companies increasingly move beyond merely serving space and power, the role of the CTO becomes more important. Holland Barry, Field CTO for Cyxtera, discusses the role of the CTO and Field CTO at the company, the key skills required, and some of the interesting projects the company is working on. We also discuss the wider skills market and the shift from ‘dumb colo’ to service provider, and get a boots on the ground view of Cyxtera’s journey to becoming a public company via a SPAC merger. | |||
12 Jan 2023 | Episode 23 - Exploring the Edge with AtlasEdge COO Zahl Limbuwala | 00:29:54 | |
Formed by DigitalBridge and Liberty Global, AtlasEdge has quickly become one of the Edge industry's largest players. We chat to COO Zahl Limbuwala about how it defines the Edge and where it places its servers. | |||
09 Mar 2023 | Episode 27 - The 2G and 3G switch-off and what it means for 5G and IoT with Wireless Logic Group CPO, Paul Bullock | 00:22:40 | |
Recently there’s been a number of mobile operators switching off their 3G networks around the world, or scheduling to phase out this old technology. 2G has also been spoken about at length, but has a slightly longer shelf-life than 3G, as it provides a backbone that still supports the IoT industry today. But what does any of this mean, and why does it matter? Well, Wireless Logic Group Chief Product Officer Paul Bullock explains why the need to switch off 3G is necessary for the future of 5G. It’s not just 5G, he adds, noting that IoT will gain a lot from the switch off of this service, although he acknowledges that 2G will be more of a challenge to phase out. Tune in to listen to the full discussion... | |||
29 Sep 2022 | Episode 17 - The impact of climate legislation on digital infrastructure with Stephen Harper, global director of Intel | 00:36:01 | |
After a hiatus of several years, climate change policy is taking off in the US, with the Biden-Harris Administration using the Inflation Reduction Act and the Energy Earthshot to accelerate the clean energy economy. | |||
25 Jan 2024 | Episode 48 - How to face up to regulations, with Venessa Moffat, EkkoSense | 00:31:25 | |
Europe has an Energy Efficiency Directive, Germany has an Energy Efficiency Act, and operators there can be fined for inefficiency. Meanwhile, Amsterdam has declared war on sleeping servers, and set limits on where facilities can be built. Across Europe, in response to congested electric grids and shortages of land, local governments are stepping in to regulate data centers. Sometimes they want them to be greener, sometimes they want them to be quieter, and sometimes they just want them somewhere else. But any data center operator now has to be prepared to meet new reporting requirements and talk to the local authorities about their business. This is not a bad thing, says Venessa Moffat, head of channel partner manager EMEA Europe for EkkoSense. It's about time those discussions happened. People who run cities need to understand the businesses that are located there - and from those discussions, new partnerships can emerge. | |||
06 Jan 2025 | DCD Bali Bonus: Paul Dwyer, LOGOS Group | 00:20:05 | |
At our Bali event, we chat to Paul Dwyer, Head of Data Centres at LOGOS Group | |||
27 Jun 2024 | Episode 58 - Smarter energy and the future of Ireland’s power grid with Michael Phelan, GridBeyond | 00:26:25 | |
Sourcing adequate amounts of power to run new facilities is a problem that keeps even the most seasoned data center operators awake at night. Many are looking at new technologies such as battery storage to help meet their power demands, but ensuring these assets operate efficiently can be a challenge. Dublin-based GridBeyond thinks it can help by providing grid-connected battery technologies and management software to data centers and other clients across a range of industries. In this episode, Michael Phelan, founder and CEO of GridBeyond, talks about the challenges and opportunities presented by the clean energy transition, and the future of Ireland’s overstretched power grid. | |||
04 Apr 2024 | Episode 52 - Why Oxide rebuilt the rack from scratch | 01:04:15 | |
Oxide Computer has been rebuilding the rack. In this podcast, CTO Bryan Cantrill tells us why. The data center industry has been building its own infrastructure for years, with the wrong components. Servers weren't designed to be operated in data centers, and the 1U rack unit is the wrong size, because of simple science. Part of the success of the cloud is that it takes that integration away, and gives users an easily consumed set of virtual servers and elastic infrastructure. But it costs, and it has pushed users to renting something they would be better off owning. That's why we heard of the "cloud diaspora" - organizations people bringing their IT back from the cloud. But what people need, Cantrill says, is an elastic infrastructure for the on-premise facility. In this podcast, you can hear him explaining why his team found they had to rebuild almost everything to deliver it. | |||
06 Apr 2023 | Episode 29 - The nuclear energy silver bullet with Tony Grayson, Compass Data Centers and Alan Howard, OMDIA | 00:46:59 | |
As 2030 approaches, the pressure on data centers to meet their carbon pledges continues to increase. This, compounded with the challenge of energy supply insecurity and rising costs, is driving data centers to look to new methods of powering their operations, which has triggered nuclear power to come to the fore. However, as a result of historical disasters as well as the upfront costs, there is hesitancy in the data center industry to make the move to nuclear. This podcast will take a deep dive into the future of nuclear in the data center market, and explore how the heavy regulation of this industry makes it a safe and reliable method of energy generation. However, despite there being some clear use cases of its viability, we are many years off from nuclear becoming a widely used power source owing to its economic feasibility. This begs the questions: when will it be deployed at scale? What is the practicality of SMRs? What technology will be used to bridge the gap as we wait for a nuclear solution?
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06 Feb 2025 | Episode 72 - Subsea cable resilience, security, and redundancy with Steve Roberts, Exa Infrastructure | 00:29:05 | |
This episode with Steve Roberts from Exa Infrastructure discusses the resilience, security, and redundancy of today’s subsea cables, particularly in the face of adversities such as wars and natural disasters. Join us to discuss who should be investing, how the cable landscape is set to change in the coming years, and all things subsea.
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04 Nov 2024 | Episode 67 - Adapting to change, with Mark Kidd, Iron Mountain | 00:30:36 | |
Iron Mountain was originally founded by a mushroom farmer in the 1950s. However, in the pivot of the century, the company launched a paper records storage service using the very mine that once housed mushrooms | |||
13 Dec 2024 | Episode 70 - Using CFD to the max with Gordon Johnson, Subzero Engineering | 00:30:50 | |
Computational Fluid Dynamics has a very important role to play in data centers, but how does it work? In this episode, we break down CFD with Subzero Engineering’s Gordon Johnson - the factors that need to be considered, its role in the data center, and the science behind it. | |||
21 Jul 2022 | Episode 12 - Sustainability-linked financing and data centers, with Aligned’s Matthew Chambliss | 00:40:20 | |
As sustainability continues to become an increasingly important issue for data center owners and operators, many are tying their financing into ESG-related goals. The likes of Green Bonds see proceeds going towards specific green projects, while Sustainability-Linked Loans see interest payments tied to specific targets such as PUE or water use. Such financing options have been adopted by cloud and data center companies including Equinix, Digital Realty, Atos, Baidu, AirTrunk, and telcos such as Telefonica, NTT, and Verizon. US operator Aligned’s whole debt pile – more than $3billion – is entirely made up of sustainable-tied financing. Aligned’s VP of Finance, Matthew Chambliss discusses the company’s reasoning and journey to adopting sustainable financing. | |||
01 Nov 2022 | Episode 19 - Bits and bricks with Digital Realty CTO Chris Sharp | 00:37:06 | |
What does a technologist do at a real estate company? We talk to Digital Realty's CTO Chris Sharp about the importance of understanding both bits and bricks, discuss the company's interconnection efforts, and do a quickfire round on which future technologies will transform the data center. | |||
25 Jan 2022 | Episode 1 - Lex Coors, Interxion | 00:48:39 | |
In the first episode of the Zero Downtime podcast, we sit down with Lex Coors, winner of DCD's 2021 Outstanding Contribution to the Industry award and Chief Data Center Technology & Engineering Officer for Interxion. We spoke to Lex about his two decades at the company, from the early days, to the rise of cloud, and the recent Digital Realty acquisition. We also discussed sustainability efforts, the European energy crisis, and how to ensure that local communities don't turn against data centers. | |||
24 Feb 2022 | Episode 3 - Anders Andrae, Huawei Technologies | 00:39:43 | |
Figures quoted in 2021 suggested that data centers and communications technology could use eight percent or even 20 percent of the world's electricity by 2030. That seemed too high to us, so we tracked down the original source of the quotes, only to find he feels the same way. Anders Andrae is an academic, currently working at Huawei's Swedish R&D center. Since his original 2015 paper he has revised his predictions down, but the old figures still often show up out of context. More importantly, he thinks we should be looking at the benefits of IT as well as the energy cost. He talks of a "handprint" that counter-balances the environmental "footprint". Andrae says the Internet saves far more emissions, through offering a digital alternative to physical services, than it consumes. You can find Andrae's research here: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Anders-Andrae | |||
01 Jun 2023 | Episode 33 - Empowering women in tech with Kelley Mullick, Iceotope | 00:31:44 | |
There has been an ongoing issue with the representation of women in the tech industry, but why? In this episode, we talk to Kelley Mullick about her career to date, the factors that have helped her get to where she is, and the importance of supporting and empowering women to pursue these careers so they can find confidence within themselves. We also talk a little about her recent job change from Intel to vice president of technology advancement and alliances at Iceotope - what drew her to the company and why she thinks precision liquid cooling is the future. | |||
15 Jun 2023 | Episode 34 - When will quantum computers reach the data center? We talk to Chris Monroe, IonQ | 00:31:58 | |
Quantum computing is still pretty mysterious, but data center operators have real questions: when will they need installation and support? And how much cooling will they need? Chris Monroe, chief scientist at IonQ, gives us the answers, along with plenty of other solid facts about an emerging technology that can seem as illusory as Schrodinger's cat. It turns out that quantum computing is reaching a point where lots of us could soon start to use it. The market may have to choose from an array of different kinds of quantum bits (or "qubits"), but it is quite likely that a brand new quantum computer could fit into a couple of racks of your classical data center. Don't believe us? Let Chris explain... | |||
23 Jan 2025 | Episode 71 - AI in Australia with Ben Crowe, Vertiv | 00:22:29 | |
Australia is seeing its data center market grow rapidly. In this episode, we talk to Vertiv’s Ben Crowe about the trends they are seeing across the country, the impact that AI is having on the data center sector, and the role that the government can play in supporting the industry.
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22 Feb 2024 | Episode 50 - The fundamentals of quantum computing with Yuval Boger, QuEra | 00:29:01 | |
In this episode of Zero Downtime, we break down the fundamentals of quantum computing - the different approaches out there, the challenges to bringing it into a widespread commercial reality, and the potential use cases that quantum may help with. To help divulge this, we speak to QuEra's Yuval Boger who shares a little about the company's experience with the technology, including how we can go about deploying quantum computers inside data centers. | |||
30 May 2024 | Episode 56 - Mushroom recycling with Joanne Rodriguez, Mycocycle | 00:33:42 | |
Mushrooms can be used to build more than just toad-stools. In this episode, Joanne Rodriguez, CEO at Mycocycle, talks about using mycelium to break down data center construction waste and make new construction materials. Listen in to this fung-guide to the future of waste management. | |||
24 Mar 2023 | Episode 28 - The future of hyperscale networking, with Juniper Networks' Mike Bushong | 00:45:17 | |
As data center demands grow, hyperscalers are building out vast networks that will help define the future of how infrastructure is interconnected. In the latest episode of the DCD Zero Downtime podcast, we connect with Juniper Networks' group vice president of cloud-ready data center, Mike Bushong, to discuss what this means, and what we should expect next. Plus we discuss AI, silicon photonics, telecoms, the race to 800G, and more. | |||
14 Mar 2024 | Episode 51 - Make way for bigger hard drives with B S Teh, CCO of Seagate | 00:28:36 | |
Think hard drives have hit their storage limits, and should be replaced by solid-state units? You could be wrong. Hard drives have been holding our data for nearly 70 years since IBM created the 350, which stored something like 4 Mbyte on dozens of spinning disks in a unit the size of a washing machine. Today's devices are orders of magnitude better on every axis including price, capacity, size, and performance. But solid-state providers say it's time they moved over to make way for modern storage. Hard drives have been in a slump, but a new technique promises to double their capacity. Seagate is the first to bring heat-assisted magnetic recording (HAMR) to the market, so we invited chief commercial officer B S Teh to tell us why it is such a big deal, why it's taken so long - and how it could change what you do in your data center. | |||
26 Jan 2023 | Episode 24 - Immerse yourself in liquid cooling with NAAT CTO Julius Neudorfer | 00:47:44 | |
Join us for an extended discussion with CTO and founder of North American Access Technologies Julius Neudorfer about the history of liquid cooling, and where he sees the market developing in the future. | |||
02 Nov 2023 | Episode 43 - Energy use and AI with Alex de Vries, Digiconomist | 00:54:18 | |
Artificial intelligence could grow from almost nothing to using half a percent of the world's electrical power within five years, according to Alex de Vries of Digiconomist. That's a crazy rate of growth, but it's not unprecedented. Bitcoin followed almost exactly the same trajectory, expanding from nothing to a sector whose energy use is comparable with that of regular data centers. But the similarities end there, says de Vries, who provided the reliable tracking data for the growth of Bitcoin, and is ready to do the same for AI. A year ago, he talked us through his methodology for analyzing Bitcoin energy usage. Now he's back, explaining how we can estimate the consumption of AI systems, This time round, it's all about tracking how many GPUs Nvidia can make, and seeing where they are likely to end up. The actual figure depends on a lot of things, and could be higher if more GPUs emerge, or if they are deployed differently. There are questions around the depreciation of the hardware, and how and where AI inference is delivered. Listen in to find out how AI's thirst for power is going to affect the world. | |||
16 May 2024 | Episode 55 - The half-life of nuclear data centers with Chris Lohse, Idaho National Laboratory | 00:44:52 | |
Nuclear power may have its detractors, but amid a growing capacity crunch data center operators are becoming increasingly interested in whether atoms can provide the electrons needed to power tomorrow's high-density facilities.
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08 Feb 2024 | Episode 49 - How CDNs quietly took over the Internet, with Mark de Jong, CDN Alliance | 00:39:45 | |
25 years ago, the first content delivery networks (CDNs) emerged, to solve a specific problem - how to make web pages load faster. More than two decades later, 72 percent of Internet content is delivered through CDNs. But the companies involved are still almost invisible - until something goes wrong. In 2021, in a series of outages, large numbers of unrelated websites all went out of action at the same time. It turned out that these sites had all come to rely on the same CDNs, effectively installing a single point of failure for large sections of the Internet. Since then, large service providers have worked out how to avoid this problem - and one CDN provider told us in a podcast what to do when it does happen. Major CDN players have extended into a distributed cloud role, running applications at the edge, and Cloudflare, for one, believes CDNs have a huge opportunity in "inference" - when AI pre-trained systems are deployed for actual applications. 2021 also saw the formation of the CDN Alliance, an industry body that aims to be a voice and forum for CDN players, along with the ecosystem that has grown up around them. Mark de Jong, founder and chair of the CDN Alliance, tells us why CDNs need a voice, and what they need to be saying. | |||
14 Sep 2023 | Episode 40 - Plenty of submarine cables in the sea with Elena Badiola, Exa Infrastructure | 00:37:27 | |
Ever wondered about the practical challenges of connecting our continents? In this podcast episode, we talk with Exa Infrastructure's Elena Badiola about the process of getting subsea cables underwater: from environmental surveys to climate change, to funding challenges. Elena also shares her experience of living on a cable ship for five weeks after an earthquake caused an outage - and how a military coup almost stopped her from getting back home. | |||
07 Jan 2025 | DCD Bali Bonus: James Murphy, DC Byte | 00:26:48 | |
At our Bali 2024 event, we sit down with James Murphy, managing director, APAC, at DC Byte | |||
20 Mar 2025 | Episode 75 - Data centers under the hammer with Julian Hennessy, Telehouse Europe | 00:25:21 | |
In this episode, we talk to Julian Hennessy, projects director at Telehouse Europe, about the company’s most recent project in the London Docklands area. The Telehouse South facility was entirely retrofitted with a mission to strive for better sustainability. Julian explains the challenges and the benefits of retrofitting in the London data center landscape. | |||
01 Sep 2022 | Episode 15 - Tracking data center power use with LBNL's Dr. Arman Shehabi | 00:48:52 | |
As grids around the world struggle to meet demand amid heatwaves and wars, data center power and water usage is increasingly coming under scrutiny. We talk to the researcher who has spent years trying to track the sector's consumption, so that regulators and companies alike can access accurate figures on a secretive sector. | |||
09 Feb 2023 | Episode 25 - Meeting the pioneer of Meet-me rooms with Hunter Newby | 00:45:10 | |
Hunter Newby doesn't claim to have invented the Meet-Me Room, but he created one of the first, in the iconic and historical Manhattan facility, 60 Hudson Street, in about 1998 At the time data centers had separate connections from multiple carriers, and linking between those carriers meant running a link between their connection points - and paying them heavily. Hunter set up a room where the networks all met up for physical (layer 0) connections - and the rest is history. It's a well-documented history because he went on to write a series of magazine articles "Meet Me In New York", "Meet Me In Chicago" etc, about interconnection facilities in major US cities. That series is archived on his site, alongside live data of connections for each of those cities from the open peering resource, PeeringDB. Today, there are still not enough Meet-Me rooms. Some US states with large cloud facilities don't have nearby carrier hotels, so local user traffic has to go out to a city like Chicago and back. Hunter's wants to foster neutral carrier hotels where there are none. Why is 60 Hudson Street the Ellis Island of the Internet? And did Hunter ever write "Meet Me In St Louis"? Listen in, and meet Hunter Newby.. |