Dangerous Dogma (Word&Way)

Jenai Auman, a writer and artist, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about her new book Othered: Finding Belonging with the God Who Pursues the Hurt, Harmed, and Marginalized. She also discusses church trauma, the importance of lament, and misuse of Scripture.

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Valerie Hobbs, a linguist at the University of Sheffield, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about her new book No Love in War: A Story of Christian Nationalism (video trailer here). She also discusses Dominionism, patriarchy, violence, and reading the Bible. 

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Joe Ingle talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about his new book Too Close to the Flame: With the Condemned inside the Southern Killing Machine. He also discusses meeting with politicians and his memories of Will Campbell.

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Shannen Williams, a professor of history at the University of Dayton, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about her book Subversive Habits: Black Catholic Nuns in the Long African American Freedom Struggle. She also discusses the importance of history and the process of Catholic sainthood.

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Conrad Kanagy, a professor of sociology at Elizabethtown College in Pennsylvania, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about his new book Walter Brueggemann's Prophetic Imagination: A Theological Biography. He also discusses German pietism, Jeremiah, and psalms of lament. Kanagy previously appeared on episode 45.

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Elizabeth Neumann talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about her new book Kingdom of Rage: The Rise of Christian Extremism and the Path Back to Peace. She also discusses terrorism and 9/11, working in the Trump administration, and how to reach those who have been radicalized.

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Tara Culp-Ressler talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about Mennonite Action, a group that formed to push for an end to the war in Gaza. The group has led multiple public vigils, including one on Capitol Hill that led to arrests as Mennonites peacefully sang hymns in a congressional building. Lean more about Mennonite Action on their website, and find videos on their Facebook page.

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Derek Kubilus, a Methodist pastor in Ohio, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about his book Holy Hell: A Case against Eternal Damnation. He also discusses translation issues, Wesleyan teachings, and Star Wars.

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Jay Augustine, senior pastor at St. Joseph AME Church in Durham, North Carolina, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about his book When Prophets Preach: Leadership and the Politics of the Pulpit. He also discusses preaching about current events, ministry after COVID, and the importance of lament. 

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Sarah Posner, author of God's Profits and Unholy, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about covering religion and politics. She also discusses issues of Christian Nationalism, the U.S. Supreme Court, Donald Trump, and ongoing threats to democracy.

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Darryl Stephens, director of United Methodist Studies at Lancaster Theological Seminary, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about his book Reckoning Methodism: Mission and Division in the Public Church. He also discusses issues of sexuality, colonialism, and public advocacy.

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Michael Budde, a professor of Catholic Studies and Political Science at DePaul University in Chicago, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about his book Foolishness to Gentiles: Essays on Empire, Nationalism, and Discipleship. He also discusses issues of violence, empire, and climate change.

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Grace Ji-Sun Kim and Susan Shaw talk with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about their new book Surviving God: A New Vision of God through the Eyes of Sexual Abuse Survivors. They also talk about considering new metaphors for God, reading biblical stories of survivors, and the importance of still finding joy.

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Eric Seibert, a professor of Old Testament at Messiah College, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about his book Redeeming Violent Verses: A Guide for Using Troublesome Texts in Church and Ministry. He also discusses teaching biblical stories to different age groups, issues of divine violence, and the most violent text in Scripture.

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Daniel Hummel, a historian who works at Upper House (a Christian study center located at the University of Wisconsin-Madison), talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about his new book The Rise and Fall of Dispensationalism: How the Evangelical Battle over the End Times Shaped a Nation. He also discusses post-Civil War border state theology, contemporary Christian Right activism, and efforts to popularize end times ideas.

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Cheryl Bridges Johns, visiting professor and director of the Pentecostal House of Studies at United Theological Seminary, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about her book Re-enchanting the Text: Discovering the Bible as Sacred, Dangerous, and Mysterious. She also discusses the enlightenment, Pentecost, and more.

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Peter Jarrett-Schell, rector of Calvary Episcopal Church in Washington, D.C., talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about his book Reparations: A Plan for Churches. He also discusses his work as chair of the Reparations Task Force of the Episcopal Diocese of Washington.

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Thomas Jay Oord, a theologian and author, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about being disciplined by the Church of the Nazarene, which resulted in him losing his preaching credentials and being expelled from membership. He also discusses the church trial process, his defense of affirming LGBTQ+ people, and open and relational theology. Learn more from his website or the Center for Open & Relational Theology.

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Angela Denker, a journalist and Lutheran minister, moderates a discussion with Jim Wallis of the Georgetown Center on Faith and Justice and Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about Christian Nationalism and other issues of faith and politics. A written version of this conversation was previously published at A Public Witness. Denker, author of Red State Christians: A Journey into White Christian Nationalism and the Wreckage It Leaves Behind, previously appeared on episode 23 and episode 68. Wallis, author of the new book The False White Gospel: Rejecting Christian Nationalism, Reclaiming True Faith, and Refounding Democracy, previously appeared on episode 24. Kaylor is the co-author of the forthcoming book Baptizing America: How Mainline Protestants Helped Build Christian Nationalism.

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Kathryn Cramer Brownell, a professor at Purdue University, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about her new book 24/7 Politics: Cable Television and the Fragmenting of America from Watergate to Fox News. She also discusses the impact of individuals like Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, Pat Robertson, and Donald Trump. 

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Nijay Gupta, a professor of New Testament at Northern Seminary, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about his book Tell Her Story: How Women Led, Taught, and Ministered in the Early Church. He also discusses issues related biblical translations, importance of historical context, and debating on Twitter.

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Joel Looper talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about his forthcoming book Another Gospel: Christian Nationalism and the Crisis of Evangelical Identity. He also discusses messianic and apocalyptic rhetoric in Trumpism.

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Greg Garrett, a professor of literature and culture at Baylor University, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about his new book The Gospel according to James Baldwin: What America's Great Prophet Can Teach Us about Life, Love, and Identity. He also discusses reading and teaching Baldwin and traveling to track down more of Baldwin's life.

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Terence Lester, founder of Love Beyond Walls, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about his book All God's Children: How Confronting Buried History Can Build Racial Solidarity. He also discusses racism in churches, the importance of lament, and the work of his nonprofit.

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Robert P. Jones, president and founder at PRRI, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about his forthcoming book The Hidden Roots of White Supremacy: And the Path to a Shared American Future. He also discusses the Doctrine of Discovery, honestly telling history, and the new Emmett Till and Mamie Till-Mobley National Monument. Jones writes at his newsletter White Too Long and previously appeared on Baptist Without An Adjective.

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Terrell Carter, pastor of Webster Groves Baptist Church and executive director of Rise in St. Louis, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about his new book Family Feuds: Forgotten Bible Rivalries and What the Church Can Relearn About Reconciliation. He also discusses issues of politics, power, and biblical interpretation.   

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Scott Coley, a lecturer in philosophy at Mount St. Mary's University, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about his forthcoming book Ministers of Propaganda: Truth, Power, and the Ideology of the Religious Right. He also discusses the rhetoric of complementarianism, creation science, and Al Mohler.

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David Gushee, distinguished university professor of Christian ethics at Mercer University and chair of Christian social ethics at Vrije Universiteit ("Free University") Amsterdam/IBTS, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about his forthcoming book Defending Democracy from Its Christian Enemies. He also discusses issues in Russia and Brazil, attacks on LGBTQ people, and the hopeful legacy of Baptists and Black Christians. He previously appeared on episode 12.

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Mike McMahon, executive director of the Hymn Society in the United States and Canada, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about the work of the Hymn Society. He also discusses music and issues like COVID, welcoming immigrants, and scandals involving Hillsong.

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Adriene Thorne, the new senior pastor at the Riverside Church in New York City, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about pastoring at this historic congregation. She also discusses becoming the first African American woman to lead Riverside, her past ministry roles, and the challenges that churches face today.

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Kate Boyd talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about her new book An Untidy Faith: Journeying Back to the Joy of Following Jesus. She also discusses deconstruction, Christian Nationalism, and cultural baggage attached to faith.

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Alan Streett, an emeritus professor of biblical theology at Criswell College, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about his new book Songs of Resistance: Challenging Caesar and Empire. He also discusses songs in the Christmas biblical texts, public and private resistance, and the demands of Caesar. 

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Randall Balmer, a professor at Dartmouth College, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about his new book Saving Faith: How American Christianity Can Reclaim Its Prophetic Voice. He also discusses the insights of biblical prophets, the danger of Christian Nationalism, and the meaning of the "Word" of God. He previously appeared on episode 25. 

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John Fanestil, executive director of Via International, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about his new book American Heresy: The Roots and Reach of White Christian Nationalism. He also discusses America's founding, violence, conspiracies, and ministering at the U.S.-Mexico border.

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William Yoo, a professor of American religious and cultural history at Columbia Theological Seminary in Decatur, Georgia, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about his book What Kind of Christianity: A History of Slavery and Anti-Black Racism in the Presbyterian Church. He also discusses the complicity of White Northerners and the need for reparations.

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Lisa Weaver Swartz, a sociologist, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about her new book Stained Glass Ceilings: How Evangelicals Do Gender and Practice Power. She also discusses Al Mohler, the Council on Biblical Manhood and Womanhood, and the campuses of Southern Baptist Theological Seminary and Asbury Theological Seminary. 

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André Gagné, a theology professor at Concordia University in Montreal, Canada, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about his book American Evangelicals for Trump: Dominion, Spiritual Warfare, and the End Times. He also discusses biblical interpretation and Neocharismatic-Pentecostal leaders like Lance Wallnau and Paula White-Cain.

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Stephen Bullivant, a professor religion and sociology at St Mary's University in London and the University of Notre Dame in Sydney, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about his new book Nonverts: The Making of Ex-Christian America. He also discusses his experiences as a British researcher traveling across the U.S., and how the changing religious demographics will impact politics and society in general.   

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David Hollinger, an emeritus history professor at the University of California, Berkeley, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about his new book Christianity's American Fate: How Religion Became More Conservative and Society More Secular. He also discusses why evangelicals grew in the 20th century, what Donald Trump reveals, and a better name for mainline Protestants. 

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Doug Pagitt, executive director of Vote Common Good, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about confronting Christian Nationalism. He also talks about attending the ReAwaken America Tour and protesting during the NRA's prayer breakfast.

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Ryan Andrew Newson, assistant professor of theology and ethics at Campbell University in Buies Creek, North Carolina, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about his book The End of Civility: Christ and Prophetic Division. He also discusses Roger Williams, the civil rights movement, and Quaker activist Benjamin Lay. Listen to an earlier conversation with Newson about the theology of Confederate statues in episode 131 of Baptist Without An Adjective.

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This episode features the audio from an online book launch for Baptizing America: How Mainline Protestants Helped Build Christian Nationalism. Co-authors Brian Kaylor and Beau Underwood hosted a panel conversation with Dr. Diana Butler Bass, Rev. Adriene Thorne, and Dr. Andrew Whitehead on Christian Nationalism and mainline Protestants. Bass, who writes the Substack newsletter The Cottage and is the author of numerous books, previously appeared on episode 59. Thorne, the senior minister at The Riverside Church in New York City, previously appeared on episode 78. And Whitehead, author of American Idolatry, previously appeared on episode 52 and episode 111.  

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Andrew Whitehead, a professor of sociology at IUPUI, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about his forthcoming book American Idolatry: How Christian Nationalism Betrays the Gospel and Threatens the Church. He also discusses the dangers of power, fear, and violence. He previously appeared on episode 52 to talk about his co-authored book Taking America Back for God: Christian Nationalism in the United States.

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Jason Porterfield talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about his new book Fight Like Jesus: How Jesus Waged Peace. He also discusses what peacemaking involves and how we sometimes misread stories about Jesus and violence. Another Lenten resource that explores the texts in fresh ways is Unsettling Lent by Brian Kaylor, Angela Parker, and Beau Underwood. 

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Jeremy Duncan, a pastor in Calgary (Alberta, Canada), talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about his book Upside-Down Apocalypse: Grounding Revelation in the Gospel of Peace. His also discusses issues related to metaphors, nonviolence, and COVID.

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Jennifer Garcia Bashaw, a professor of New Testament and Christian ministry at Campbell University, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about her book Scapegoats: The Gospel through the Eyes of Victims. She also discusses theories of atonement and the mistreatment of women, poor and disabled people, Blacks, and immigrants. A study guide to go along with Scapegoats is also available online.

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Pamela Cooper-White, the Christiane Brooks Johnson Professor of Psychology & Religion at Union Theological Seminary, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about her book The Psychology of Christian Nationalism: Why People Are Drawn In and How to Talk Across the Divide. She also discusses pastoral counseling and her perspective as an Episcopal priest.

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Robin Lovin, an ordained United Methodist minister and a former professor of ethics at Southern Methodist University, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about his new book What Do We Do When Nobody Is Listening?: Leading the Church in a Polarized Society. He also discusses Dietrich Bonhoeffer, learning to listening, and the current schism in the United Methodist Church.

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Christa Brown talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about her forthcoming book Baptistland: A Memoir of Abuse, Betrayal, and Transformation. She also discusses advocacy for survivors of clergy sexual abuse, family estrangement, and when denominational leaders do not care.

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Kevin Nye talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about his book Grace Can Lead Us Home: A Christian Call to End Homelessness. He also discusses the importance of language and extravagance.

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Kyle Meyaard-Schaap, vice president of the Evangelical Environmental Network, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about his book Following Jesus in a Warming World: A Christian Call to Climate Action. He also discusses advocacy, storytelling, and loving neighbors.

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Kaitlyn Schiess talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about her new book The Ballot and the Bible: How Scripture has been Used and Abused in American Politics and Where We Go from Here. She also discusses Romans 13 and the American Revolutionary War, Donald Trump holding up a Bible, and how 2024 presidential candidates are quoting scriptural passages.

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David W. Peters, an Episcopal priest in Texas, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about his book Post-Traumatic Jesus: A Healing Gospel for the Wounded. He also discusses serving as a military chaplain, the importance of the resurrection, and retelling Bible stories.

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Dave Verhaagen, a psychologist, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about his new book How White Evangelicals Think: The Psychology of White Conservative Christians. He also discusses fear, conspiracy theories, and collective narcissism.

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Janet Kellogg Ray, a university biology professor, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about her new book The God of Monkey Science: People of Faith in a Modern Scientific World. She also discusses COVID-19, science denialism, and science education.

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Jeff Hood, author of The Execution of God, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about his advocacy against the death penalty. He also discusses his ministry to people on death row, including last month as he stood in a death chamber as Oklahoma executed Scott Eizember. At A Public Witness, we recently reported on another minister's experience of being present during an execution in Missouri, and we reported on a case where a condemned person was denied that opportunity. On Ash Wednesday, Hood led a service reflecting on the last words of people who were executed. 

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Blake Chastain, author of The Post-Evangelical Post, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about his new book Exvangelical and Beyond: How American Christianity Went Radical and the Movement That's Fighting Back. He also discusses racism, consumerism, and Donald Trump.

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Andrew Garnett, pastor Hampton Baptist Church in Virginia, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about his book Christians and the Roman Army: Lessons for Today. He also discusses the impact of the rise of Constantine, differences between leaders and congregants, and Fourth of July services.

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Paul Raushenbush, the new president and CEO of the Interfaith Alliance, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about the organization. He also discusses Christian Nationalism, religious liberty, and his family's heritage.

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Teddy Wilson, a reporter who runs the newsletter Radical Reports, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about his research and reporting on political and religious extremism. He also discusses Christian Nationalism, the Jan. 6 insurrection, and his Substack newsletter. 

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Sabrina Dent, director of the BJC Center for Faith, Justice, and Reconciliation, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about the history and work of the Center. She also discusses issues of racial justice, religious liberty, and the teaching of history.

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Matthew Taylor, a scholar with the Institute for Islamic-Christian-Jewish Studies, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about his forthcoming book The Violent Take it By Force: The Christian Movement That Is Threatening Our Democracy. He also discusses the New Apostolic Reformation, election prophecies, and the Jan. 6 insurrection.

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Amanda Tyler, executive director of the Baptist Joint Committee for Religious Liberty, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about attending the ReAwaken America Tour and a Pastors for Trump meeting at Trump Doral in Miami, Florida. She also discusses the work of Christians Against Christian Nationalism, church-state legislation in Texas, and issues being considered by the U.S. Supreme Court. 

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Julie Faith Parker, a visiting scholar at Union Theological Seminary and a biblical scholar in residence at Marble Collegiate Church, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about her book Eve Isn't Evil: Feminist Readings of the Bible to Upend Our Assumptions. She also discusses translation problems, the role of the matriarchs, and female prophets.

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Michael Austin, a philosophy professor at Eastern Kentucky University and Bonhoeffer Senior Fellow of the Miller Center for Interreligious Learning and Leadership of Hebrew College, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about his new book American Christian Nationalism: Neither American nor Christian. He also discusses American values, teachings of Jesus, and the co-option of Dietrich Bonhoeffer.

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Bekah McNeel, an education journalist, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about her new book Bringing Up Kids When Church Lets You Down: A Guide for Parents Questioning Their Faith. She also discusses the impact of COVID-19 on education, debates about critical race theory, and reacting to the Uvalde, Texas, school shooting as a parent.

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Craig Lamar Brown and Andrea Summer talk with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about their movie Between Mercy and Me. They also discuss issues of racism, church worship, and creating music and movies. 

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Bradley Onishi, a religion scholar who cohosts the Straight White American Jesus podcast, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about his book Preparing for War: The Extremist History of White Christian Nationalism — and What Comes Next. He also discusses Jan. 6, evangelical racism, Ron DeSantis, and more.

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Liz Bucar, professor of religion at Northeastern University, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about her new book Stealing My Religion: Not Just Any Cultural Appropriation. She also discusses trying yoga, walking the Camino de Santiago, and leading the Sacred Writes program.

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Caleb Campbell, pastor at Desert Springs Bible Church in Phoenix, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about his forthcoming book Disarming Leviathan: Loving Your Christian Nationalist Neighbor. He also discusses Turning Point USA, syncretism, and missionary strategies.

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Dwight McKissic, pastor of Cornerstone Church in Arlington, Texas, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about debates in Southern Baptist life over critical race theory. He also discusses honors to enslavers at Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, Al Mohler's support of Donald Trump, and pastoring during a pandemic. This episode is a rebroadcast of a 2021 episode of Baptist Without An Adjective, which was quoted by Religion News Service, Christian Post, and more.

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Shirley Mullen, retired president of Houghton College (now University), talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about her new book Claiming the Courageous Middle: Daring to Live and Work Together for a More Hopeful Future. She also discusses liberal arts education, listening to others, and embracing middle spaces.

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Aimee Byrd talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about her forthcoming book The Hope in Our Scars: Finding the Bride of Christ in the Underground of Disillusionment. She also discusses addressing misogyny and patriarchy in church life. She writes a Substack newsletter. More information about the book, including a video series, can be found at thehopeinourscars.com. 

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Allison Tanner, pastor of public witness at Lakeshore Avenue Baptist Church in Oakland, California, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about the new Apartheid-Free Communities initiative. She serves as the national organizer for the campaign with the American Friends Service Committee. She also discusses the importance of listening to Palestinian Christians and speaking out against Israeli apartheid.  

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Amanda Tyler of the Baptist Joint Committee for Religious Liberty talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about her forthcoming book How to End Christian Nationalism. She also discusses the Christians Against Christian Nationalism effort, issues involving public education, and different ways to engage in the public square. She previously appeared on episode 7 and episode 102.

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Angela Denker, a Lutheran pastor and journalist, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about her book Red State Christians: A Journey into White Christian Nationalism and the Wreckage It Leaves Behind. She also discusses Lutherans, racism, and the need for pastors to speak out. An earlier conversation with her can be heard in episode 23.

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Liz Cooledge Jenkins talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about her forthcoming book Nice Churchy Patriarchy: Reclaiming Women's Humanity from Evangelicalism. She also discusses biblical interpretation, women in ministry, and church leadership practices.

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Sara Billups talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about her new book Orphaned Believers: How a Generation of Christian Exiles Can Find the Way Home. She also discusses issues the impact of growing up with end-times theology, culture war politics, and commercialism.   

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Benjamin Perry, a minister at Middle Church in New York City, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about his book Cry, Baby: Why Our Tears Matter. He also discusses teaching children, COVID, and dealing with church grief. 

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Ilsup Ahn, a professor of professor of philosophy at North Park University in Chicago, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about his book The Church in the Public: A Politics of Engagement for a Cruel and Indifferent Age. He also discusses the Sanctuary Movement and the Poor People's Campaign.

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Daniel Cooperrider, a United Church of Christ pastor, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about his book Speak with the Earth and It Will Teach You: A Field Guide to the Bible. He also discusses issues of climate change and biblical interpretation.

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Tripp Fuller of Homebrewed Christianity talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about podcasting, community, and speaking out in public. He also talks about Theology Beer Camp on Oct. 17-19 in Denver.

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Cody Sanders and Mikeal Parsons talk with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about their book Corpse Care: Ethics for Tending the Dead. They also discuss issues related to green burials, funeral practices, and COVID.

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Ross Kane, a professor of theology, ethics, and culture at Virginia Theological Seminary, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about his new book The Good News of Church Politics. He also discusses local engagement, the biblical word for the church, and the importance of repentance and forgiveness.

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Trey Ferguson, a minister and writer, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about his new book Theologizin' Bigger: Homilies on Living Freely and Loving Wholly. He also discusses biblical interpretation, inerrancy, and Black Panther.

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Christopher Beem, an associate research professor and the managing director of the McCourtney Institute for Democracy at Pennsylvania State University, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about his book The Seven Democratic Virtues: What You Can Do to Overcome Tribalism and Save Our Democracy. He also discusses Christian Nationalism and the role Christians can play in defending democracy.

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Jerome Copulsky, a research fellow at the Berkley Center for Religion, Peace, and World Affairs at Georgetown University, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about his new book American Heretics: Religious Adversaries of Liberal Order. He also discusses colonial Anglicans, debates during the Confederacy, and Christian Nationalism.

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Daniel Buttry, retired global consultant for peace and justice with International Ministries of the American Baptist Church, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about his new book Healing the World: Gustavo Parajón, Public Health and Peacemaking Pioneer. He also discusses nationalism, truth-telling, and conflict transformation. Hear an earlier conversation with Buttry and his wife Sharon on episode 155 of Baptist Without An Adjective.

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Jason Shelton, a sociology professor at the University of Texas at Arlington, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about his new book The Contemporary Black Church: The New Dynamics of African American Religion. He also discusses impacts of the civil rights movement, racial injustices, and the COVID-19 pandemic on church life.

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Michael Wear, president and CEO of the Center for Christianity and Public Life, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about his new book The Spirit of Our Politics: Spiritual Formation and the Renovation of Public Life. He also discusses Dallas Willard, gentleness, and the Buffalo Bills. He previously appeared on episode 22.

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Beau Underwood talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about the forthcoming book they co-authored, Baptizing America: How Mainline Protestants Helped Build Christian Nationalism. They also discuss changing U.S. demographics and how the book came together. Underwood previously appeared on episode 43. Save 33% on Baptizing America with the promo code "BApodcast" at chalicepress.com.

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Andrew Seidel, vice president of strategic communications for Americans United for Separation of Church and State, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about his book American Crusade: How the Supreme Court Is Weaponizing Religious Freedom. He also discusses Christian Nationalism, COVID, and abortion bans.   

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Jack Jenkins, a national reporter for Religion News Service, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about his work reporting on religion and politics on both the right and left. He also discusses his book American Prophets: The Religious Roots of Progressive Politics and the Ongoing Fight for the Soul of the Country.

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Paul Raushenbush, CEO and president of the Interfaith Alliance, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about his book Together We Rise - An Easter Story for All of Us. He also discusses Jesus's teachings, visualizing the story, and interfaith work. He previously appeared on episode 74.

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Lore Ferguson Wilbert talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about her new book The Understory: An Invitation to Rootedness and Resilience from the Forest Floor. She also discusses issues of grief, COVID-19, and hope.

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Isaac Sharp, a visiting assistant professor at Union Theological Seminary, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about his book The Other Evangelicals: A Story of Liberal, Black, Progressive, Feminist, and Gay Christians ― and the Movement That Pushed Them Out. His also discusses inerrancy, defining evangelicalism, and the impact of Donald Trump.

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David Fitch, a professor of evangelical theology at Northern Seminary and a member of the pastoral staff at Peace of Christ Church in Westmont, Illinois, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about his new book Reckoning with Power: Why the Church Fails When It's on the Wrong Side of Power. He also discusses politics, megachurches, and privilege. Find Fitch on Facebook and Substack.

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Tony Jones, a theologian and author, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about his new book The God of Wild Places: Rediscovering the Divine in the Untamed Outdoors. He also discusses hunting, death, and ministry.

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R.L. Stollar talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about his new book The Kingdom of Children: A Liberation Theology. He also discusses biblical interpretation, the incarnation of God, and how churches can create opportunities for children to lead. 

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Mike Graves, scholar in residence at Country Club Christian Church in Kansas City, talk with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about his new book Jesus' Vision for Your One Wild and Precious Life: (on Things Like Poverty, Hunger, Polarization, Inclusion, and More). He also discusses issues of biblical interpretation, polarization, and ministry. 

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