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17 Apr 2025#23 Sean Speer: High Stakes Politics & Challenges for Canada's Next Prime Minister00:34:57

Sean Speer, Editor at Large at The Hub, paints a stressful (dire?) picture of what faces the next prime minister. The need to secure a stable economic and security agreement with the United States may, paradoxically, compromise the Prime Minister’s political future. They might not be able to secure an agreement that any Canadians will like.

What will America want in return for an improved trade relationship? Will we have to change policies on supply management, internet regulation, and customs?

We end by discussing the shifting political dynamics among the so-called ‘tech bros' and their alignment with conservative politics, and what that might mean for Canada.

The stakes couldn’t be higher for this election. I hope you enjoy the episode.

15 Apr 2025#22 Preston Manning: The Origins and Impact of Canadian Populism00:49:22

Preston Manning knows populism like no one else. He says Western Canada might have the most experience with populist movements and governments worldwide.

United Farmers’ Associations, Social Credit, CCF, and Reform — they all shared a bottom-up, grassroots energy fuelled by frustration over disdain from elites and inattentive government.

Having spent his life giving speeches and talking about Canada, Preston can fire off enough details about Canada to make anyone feel inspired by what we have and humbled we do not know it better.

Preston combines passion and energy while remaining open to divergent ideas. He seems to just keep rolling forward, with alacrity! 

Video of the episode is on youtube.com/@ConceptsWithShawnWhatley

04 Mar 2025# 1: Peter Copeland - Exploring Conservatism and Liberalism in Canada00:43:14

In this episode, Peter Copeland, Deputy Director of Domestic Policy at the Macdonald-Laurier Institute, delves into the philosophical underpinnings of conservatism and liberalism in Canada. The discussion covers the evolving political landscape, the balance between individual freedom and community values, and the impact of immigration and social policy on Canadian society. Peter also shares his personal journey towards understanding the good life through intellectual and spiritual pursuits. This thought-provoking conversation addresses the meaning of conservatism, the role of classical liberalism, and the search for a common good in modern Canada.

00:00 Introduction to the Common Good

00:46 Meet Peter Copeland

01:13 Understanding Conservatism in Canada

01:29 Classical Liberalism vs. Social Conservatism

03:42 The Shift in Conservative Thought

04:13 Differences Within Conservatism

06:13 Fusionism and Modern Challenges

07:22 Classical Liberalism's Internal Contradictions

09:03 The Role of the State and Society

24:11 Populism and Political Shifts

28:36 Canada's Identity and Unity

41:39 Concluding Thoughts and Future Directions

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04 Mar 2025# 2: Tom Flanagan - The Evolution of Conservatism and Liberalism in Canada00:44:20

Professor Tom Flanagan, a prominent conservative intellectual in Canada, delves into the intricate history and evolving definitions of conservatism and liberalism within Anglo-American democracies. He provides a detailed analysis of how these political ideologies have shifted over centuries, focusing particularly on the Canadian context. From Britain's influence to the rise of social issues and free market economics, Flanagan and host Shawn discuss the fluid nature of political labels and the emerging concept of 'national conservatism.' The conversation also covers modern challenges such as free trade casualties, identity politics, and the enduring principles that might define future political landscapes in Canada and beyond. This thoughtful discussion is a must-watch for anyone interested in the complex dynamics of political thought and history.

00:00 Introduction to Free Trade and Its Impact

00:23 Welcoming Professor Tom Flanagan

00:54 Historical Context of Conservatism

01:15 Evolution of Political Terms

03:20 Conservatism in the 19th and 20th Century

05:54 Modern Conservatism and Free Market Economics

12:38 Challenges and Shifts in Contemporary Conservatism

19:23 The Role of Government and Social Issues

34:46 National Identity and Political Unity

42:26 Final Thoughts and Reflections

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04 Mar 2025#3: Ginny Roth - The Shifting Landscape of Conservatism in Canada00:38:28

Explore the evolving landscape of conservatism in Canada with guest Ginny Roth, a noted political advisor and columnist. The conversation covers the changing demographics among conservative voters, the tension between policy and ideas, and the cultural shifts impacting public sentiment. The conversation delves into the importance of family, national identity, and economic nationalism while also exploring the interplay between conservatism and liberalism in shaping Canada's future. Tune in to understand how these dynamic trends could reshape the country's political and cultural landscape.

00:00 Introduction: The Housing Crisis and Life's Purpose

00:42 Welcoming Ginny Roth: A Political Powerhouse

01:06 Defining Conservatism in Canada

01:47 The Realignment of Conservative Voters

02:52 Economic and Cultural Shifts

05:54 Leadership: Ideas vs. Policies

09:02 The Evolution of Conservative Ideas

22:26 Challenges of Pluralism and National Identity

33:42 Economic Nationalism and Tariffs

37:08 Final Thoughts: Embracing Change and Ideas

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04 Mar 2025#4: Matt Bufton on Libertarianism & Canada00:57:12

In this episode, Shawn hosts Matt Bufton, co-founder and executive director of the Institute for Liberal Studies in Canada. They delve into common misconceptions about libertarianism, drug policy, political ideologies in Canadian politics, and the meaning of a social contract. Matt shares his views on the principles of liberty, spontaneous order, and the balance between personal freedom and societal rules. The discussion also touches on the implications of recent political events, healthcare, and Canada's identity as a nation-state.

00:00 Introduction to Libertarian Views on Drug Legalization

00:50 Meet Matt Bufton: Advocate for Liberal Studies

01:28 Understanding Canadian Political Parties

03:19 Defining Liberalism in Modern Politics

05:55 Libertarian Perspectives on Drug Policy

08:05 Challenges of Libertarianism in Practice

19:31 Spontaneous Order in Society and Sports

28:15 NHL Rules and Voluntary Associations

28:57 Common Good and Shared Norms

30:09 Public Policy and Health Inspections

33:12 Religious Tolerance in Canada

35:42 Libertarianism and Social Contracts

40:56 Canada's National Identity

47:26 Libertarianism and Family Obligations

49:38 Final Thoughts and Reflections

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04 Mar 2025#5: Sean Speer - The Intersection of Pluralism, Conservatism, and Modern Society00:52:57

The Intersection of Pluralism, Conservatism, and Modern Society with Sean Speer In this insightful episode, we are joined by Sean Speer, a prominent lecturer at the Munk School of Public Policy and Editor at Large at The Hub, to explore the complex landscape of Canadian conservatism and its intersections with pluralism, liberalism, and modern societal challenges. Sean discusses the significance of pluralism in his political worldview, the nuanced differences in conservatism across cultures, and the impact of figures like Donald Trump on conservative politics. He touches on the challenges and opportunities of preserving Canada's cultural heritage in the face of changing demographics and political ideologies, and delves into topics such as populism, techno-conservatism, and the distinctiveness of North American conservatism. This episode also examines the roles of institutions and political leaders in guiding a psychologically and socially healthy society in today's world.

https://thehub.ca/section/podcast-video/

00:00 Introduction to Pluralism and Conservatism

01:07 Welcoming Sean Speer

01:49 Defining Conservatism in Canada

04:16 Trump and American Conservatism

07:26 Canada's Identity and Trudeau's Post-National State

13:00 Challenges of Pluralism and Society

20:42 Economic Determinism and Cultural Shifts

27:54 The Role of Religion and Myth in Society

39:21 Conservatism and Institutional Capacity

47:41 Populism, Tech Conservatism, and Canadian Identity

52:20 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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04 Mar 2025#6: Lori Regenstreif - Navigating Addictions and Vulnerabilities00:47:09

In this episode, we delve into the complexities of addiction, treatment, and the balance between agency and intervention with Dr. Regenstreif, a family physician and national expert on addiction medicine. Dr. Regenstreif shares her experiences from working in inner-city Hamilton to the Northwest Territories, discussing the history and impact of opioid prescribing, the rise of fentanyl, and effective harm reduction strategies like naloxone distribution and supervised injection sites. The discussion also touches on the broader social issues intertwined with addiction, such as poverty and mental illness, and explores the contentious topic of decriminalizing drugs. Join us for an in-depth conversation on how to support vulnerable individuals while navigating the intricate landscape of addiction treatment.

00:00 Introduction: Balancing Autonomy and Support for Vulnerable Individuals

00:22 Concerns About Government Intervention in Vulnerabilities

00:40 Introducing Dr. Regenstreif: Expert in Addiction Medicine

01:20 The Evolution of Safe Supply in Addiction Medicine

01:41 The Impact of Purdue Pharma and OxyContin on Addiction

03:13 The Rise of Methadone Clinics and Business Models

04:17 The Emergence of Fentanyl and Its Consequences

07:00 Harm Reduction Strategies: Naloxone and Supervised Injection Sites

10:02 Trials and Evidence for Safe Injection Sites

17:36 The Shift in Homeless Population and Substance Use Disorders

22:15 The Role of Prescription Opioids in Addiction

23:57 Revisiting the Opioid Crisis

24:47 The Shift to Heroin and Fentanyl

26:09 Challenges in Pain Management

27:27 Harm Reduction and Decriminalization

28:58 Patient Autonomy and Tough Love

36:20 Legalization and Its Impacts

39:34 The Future of Addiction Treatment

42:46 Concluding Thoughts on Addiction Policy

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04 Mar 2025#7: Brian Lee Crowley - Exploring Canada’s Political and Social Fault Lines00:49:09

In this insightful episode, Dr. Brian Lee Crowley, founder and executive director of the Macdonald-Laurier Institute, joins Shawn to discuss his books and the critical issues facing Canada's political and social landscape. Dr. Crowley delves into the themes of his book 'Gardeners vs. Designers' to outline the deeper fault lines in Canadian politics beyond party lines. He provides a detailed account of the significant budget reforms during the Chrétien-Martin era, highlighting Canada's shift towards smaller government and its benefits. The discussion also touches on the adverse effects of expansive government policies on institutions like healthcare, drawing from history to suggest approaches for meaningful reform. The episode concludes with Dr. Crowley sharing his concerns about the current state of Canada's identity and its crucial relationship with the United States.

Books mentioned:

Gardeners vs. Designers: Understanding the Great Fault Line in Canadian Politics

Fearful Symmetry -- The fall and rise of Canada's founding values

The Canadian Century: Moving Out of America's Shadow

00:00 Introduction to Canadian Budget Reforms

00:57 Introducing Dr. Brian Lee Crowley

01:55 Gardeners vs. Designers: Understanding Canadian Politics

07:24 The Canadian Century: Moving Out of America's Shadow

15:43 Impact of Government Reforms on Citizenry

30:57 Challenges in Canadian Healthcare System

42:11 Concerns for Canada's Future

48:21 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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04 Mar 2025#8: John von Heyking - Exploring Conservatism and Community01:02:46

In this episode, I welcome Dr. John von Heyking, Chair of the Department of Political Science at the University of Lethbridge in Alberta, to discuss the meaning of conservatism in Canadian politics. The conversation delves into the 2013 Alberta floods as an example of community response, the evolving nature of conservative movements over recent decades, differing ideologies within conservatism, and the importance of community and individual rights. We also cover philosophical perspectives from thinkers like David Walsh and Eric Vogelin, the dynamics between individual and collective values, and the current political landscape in Canada.

00:00 2013 Alberta Floods: Community Response

01:04 Introducing Dr. John von Heyking

01:58 Defining Conservatism in Canadian Politics

04:43 The Role of Community in Conservatism

09:06 Friendship vs. Community

10:40 The Concept of Individual Rights

20:02 The Common Good and Its Implications

25:16 Critiques of Liberalism and Conservatism

28:44 French Enlightenment and Its Influence

29:46 Locke, Hobbes, and Modern Liberalism

31:04 Hume's Radical Philosophy

31:50 Classical vs. Modern Political Philosophy

33:17 Virtue and the Liberal State

37:54 Religious Wars and Tolerance

42:59 Canadian Identity and Civic Responsibility

52:03 Philosophical Anthropology and Ideologies

01:00:16 Current Canadian Political Issues

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06 Mar 2025#9: Andrea Mrozek - Why Marriage Still Matters00:54:39

In this episode, we discuss with Andrea Mrozek her new book on marriage titled 'I... Do? Why Marriage Still Matters.' Andrea, a seasoned journalist and think tank expert, delves into the societal importance of marriage in today's secular, post-Christian society. We explore the strong link between marriage and fertility rates, the ongoing debate between the institutional and soulmate models of marriage, and the nuanced impacts of the sexual revolution on modern relationships. Drawing insights from historical contexts and recent survey data, Andrea emphasizes the need for a broader conversation about marriage, its benefits, and the societal trade-offs at play. Tune in to gain a deeper understanding of why marriage remains a cornerstone for flourishing communities.

00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome

00:15 Discussing Andrea's Book on Marriage

00:50 Quotes from the Book

01:46 The Importance of Marriage in Society

03:58 Marriage and Fertility Rates

07:05 Cornerstone vs. Capstone View of Marriage

08:50 Sliding vs. Deciding in Relationships

16:11 The Institutional vs. Soulmate Model of Marriage

25:41 Trade-offs in Social Policies

27:53 Misapplying Postures in Personal Relationships

28:52 The Impact of the Sexual Revolution

29:42 The Birth Control Pill and Family Dynamics

30:55 Economic Perspectives on Marriage and Children

33:18 The Pressure of a Successful Marriage

36:25 The Role of Family Structure in Society

42:42 Philosophical Views on Marriage

45:04 The Importance of Stable Families

47:00 A New Message for Marriage

50:34 Concluding Thoughts on Marriage and Society

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11 Mar 2025#10: Chris Milburn - Navigating Healthcare, Bureaucracy, and Free Speech00:49:26

In this episode, Dr. Chris Milburn, an emergency and family physician from Nova Scotia, shares his journey through medicine, public health, and politics. Dr. Milburn explains his evolution from a Green Party member to a vocal critic of expansive government regulations, recounting significant experiences including his firing during the COVID-19 pandemic. The dialogue touches on the challenges of modern medical education, the inefficiencies of a bureaucratic healthcare system, and the necessity of free speech in medical discourse. Key topics include the impact of governmental control on healthcare workers, the erosion of medical education quality, and the foundational beliefs in libertarianism and conservatism.

Free Speech in Medicine conference

Pairodocs’ Collection of Heresy Substack

00:00 Introduction and Initial Thoughts on Government Responsibility

00:19 Introducing Dr. Chris Milburn

00:50 Dr. Milburn's Green Party Experience

05:03 Challenges in Emergency Medicine Leadership

06:39 Public Health and COVID-19 Controversies

14:33 Medical Education: Then and Now

24:10 The Shift in Medical Education

25:07 Impact of Reduced Training Hours

26:27 Healthcare System vs. Patient Care

30:22 The Cost of Healthcare

35:29 Free Speech in Medicine Conference

45:48 Challenges in Rural Healthcare

48:45 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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13 Mar 2025#12: Caylan Ford - Exploring the Soul of Conservatism01:02:26

In this deep and thought-provoking discussion, Shawn interviews Caylan Ford, a documentary filmmaker, writer, researcher, charter school founder, and former political candidate. They explore the moral responsibilities of individuals on all sides of the political spectrum. Caylan delves into the importance of guarding our souls against the moral perils of modern politics, the value of metaphysical questions, and the role of education in cultivating virtues. With references to thinkers like Plato, Voegelin, and Aristotle, Caylan and Shawn examine how society's focus on materialism and the rejection of traditional values contribute to contemporary crises. They discuss the profound impact of beauty, suffering, and silence on the human experience and the necessity of a common good in politics. The conversation highlights the inherent tension between the quantifiable and the ineffable in modern life and the importance of maintaining an openness to the transcendent.

00:00 Guarding Our Souls in Political Times

00:55 Introducing Caylan Ford: A Multifaceted Career

01:36 The Fundamental Question: Why Does Anything Matter?

02:55 Metaphysical Significance and Human Flourishing

04:45 Plato, Vogelin, and the Nature of Reality

10:28 The Role of Education in Apprehending Reality

12:45 The Importance of Silence and Inner Stillness

19:52 Modern Society's Relationship with Mortality

26:51 The Consequences of Avoiding Metaphysical Questions

31:23 The Enlightenment and the Rejection of Tradition

32:12 The Importance of Cultural Roots

32:55 The Dangers of Uprootedness

34:11 Totalitarianism and the Atomized Man

34:49 Defining the Common Good

37:00 Philosophical Undertakings and the Order of Being

38:23 Conservatism and the Human Experience

44:49 The Role of Beauty and Family in Conservatism

54:15 COVID-19 and the Impact on Society

58:23 Concluding Thoughts on Conservatism

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18 Mar 2025#13 Bruce Pardy - Exploring Political Labels and Libertarian Philosophy01:20:04

In this episode, host Shawn welcomes Bruce Pardy, a Professor of Law at Queen's University, as they delve into various political labels and philosophies within Canadian politics. They discuss the misalignment of political party names with their actual values and the definition of conservatism in Canada. Bruce critiques the underlying collectivism in conservative principles and emphasizes the importance of individual liberty, distinguishing between classical liberalism, libertarianism, and conservatism. The conversation also covers the potential for Alberta's independence, the role of morality in governance, and the limitations of laws. Finally, Bruce shares insights from his think tank, Rights Probe, and his Substack writings, advocating for a minimalist state that prioritizes non-coercion and individual freedom.

Book mentioned:

Ecolawgic: The Logic of Ecosystems and the Rule of Law

Ecolawgic: The Logic of Ecosystems and the Rule of Law, (Fifth Forum Press, 2015)

147 Pages Posted: 27 Sep 2015

00:00 Introduction: The Misleading Names of Canadian Political Parties

00:29 Guest Introduction: Bruce Pardy

00:57 Defining Conservatism in Canadian Politics

01:30 The Role of Socialized Medicine in Conservatism

03:30 Classical Liberalism vs. Conservatism

05:03 Libertarianism and the Use of Force

10:21 Government Propaganda and the Use of Tax Dollars

17:56 Libertarianism vs. Anarchism

23:26 The Role of Cultural Norms in Libertarianism

39:00 The Legitimacy of Laws and Libertarian Principles

41:39 Discussing Alberta's Independence

44:18 Historical Context of Prairie Provinces

44:44 Representation Issues in Canadian Politics

45:44 Quebec's Unique Position

51:07 Philosophical Debate on Beauty and Liberty

55:14 Critique of the Canadian Constitutional System

01:04:25 Libertarianism and Rights Probe

01:19:02 Concluding Thoughts on Governance and Liberty

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20 Mar 2025#14 Brianna Morris - The Charter, COVID, and Parliament vs Judiciary00:48:08

In this episode, political expert Brianna Morris discusses the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, the impact of COVID-19 on political decisions, and the evolving meaning of conservatism in Canadian politics. She explores the balance between judicial and parliamentary supremacy, the role of government, and the need for a positive vision in conservative campaigns. Morris also shares insights into the challenges of upholding rights and the shifts in political alignments, while highlighting the importance of fostering a cohesive Canadian identity.

00:00 Introduction: Rights and Politicians

00:25 Meet Brianna Morris

00:53 Defining Conservatism in Canada

02:15 Conservatism and Capitalism

04:10 Master's Thesis: Charter of Rights and Freedoms

04:41 COVID-19 and Charter Rights

07:19 Judicial vs. Parliamentary Supremacy

09:45 Practical Politics vs. Academic Discussions

10:53 Alberta Bill of Rights Movement

19:33 Canadian Identity and National Unity

23:39 Focusing on the Positive

24:14 American and Canadian Values

24:33 Conservative Campaign Strategies

25:10 The Role of Religion and Myth

28:18 Social Conservatism and Its Challenges

31:37 Libertarianism vs. Social Conservatism

35:03 The Future of Canadian Politics

43:42 Balancing Tradition and Progress

47:33 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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12 Mar 2025#11: Revolutionary times, liberalism vs conservatism, & the quest for a better life00:10:15

Times always change, but our time is changing faster than usual. We live in a rare moment of revolution — a paradigm shift in culture, politics, economics … everything. As Ginny Roth said in episode #3, “Nothing is settled.”

Since World War II, western countries have held a shared set of principles — a common operating system, if you will. Most people call it ‘liberal democracy’. It includes a long list of assumptions about freedom, the individual, rule of law, deference to reason and evidence, trust in science, respect for experts, and much more.

Those ideas are no longer assumed or shared. Many academics abandoned them long before I was born, but regular people never doubted them until recently. The 2008 financial crisis shook many people’s faith in liberal principles, but we hoped it was a blip, a black-swan event.

In hindsight, 2008 was one car on an accelerating train. Trump’s ride down the escalator in 2015, Brexit in June 2016, and then Trump’s first victory in November 2016 are all connected. Even so, diehards refused to doubt their faith in liberal first principles, while the train kept gaining speed.

In late 2019-early 2020, China welded doors shut on apartment buildings to contain a novel infection. Western countries soon declared a state of emergency for a new SARS virus. Borders closed. Police arrested families out walking in the park. By the summer, we had George Floyd, Black Lives Matters, Capital Hill Autonomous Zone in Seattle, and more.

Canada’ s Freedom Convoy in 2022 sparked similar events around the world. Prime Minister Trudeau’s Emergency Measures’ Act solidified his notoriety with citizens’ bank accounts frozen for donating $50, mounted policed trampling a disabled woman, and more.

All due to COVID, right?

But the train hasn’t slowed. Today, 98% of academic job postings discriminate based on DEI criteria. America has started to abandon identity-based employment discrimination, but Canada remains committed. Doctors must not question a teenager’s gender dysphoria to avoid breaking new law that bans ‘conversion therapy.’ Medical Assistance in Dying is now the 5th leading cause of death in Canada, in which most patients choose voluntary euthanasia with only a few choosing physician-assisted suicide.

It goes on with the Russia-Ukraine war. Hamas attacked a music event killing and kidnapping the old and very young. Canadian citizens celebrate Hamas with parties in the street. Students shut down universities in solidarity.

This long list is too short, of course. In isolation, each event might elicit a proper, liberal explanation. Citizens misunderstand freedom. Prime Minister Trudeau needs lessons on parliamentary democracy. Students mistake their own privilege. Conflict in the middle east would stop if we abandoned tribalism and historical grievances. Faith in the western liberal order need not waver. Except it does, and it should.

Leave aside the long list of events. The Israel-Hamas war by itself forces us to question our principled support for pluralism (see Sean Speer in episode #5). Given a decade of remarkable events, October 7 demands we reassess our assumptions about western liberal democracy.

Do our core assumptions still hold?

In a way, our revolutionary moment makes up for the unique, relative stability of the post-WWII liberal era. We are returning to a state more typical of modern human history: one that involves continual contest interspersed with moments of social order rarely enduring long enough to be taken for granted.

Revolutions awaken a search for ways to speak about things that most people already know to be true. Since the start of human history, children grow up, gain skills, develop interests, find mates, build homes, and raise families. This only sounds radical to modern, liberal minds — a tiny minority in human history.

Most Conservative parties and spokespeople have been, until now, essentially liberals (as many guests have noted on this show). But Conservative parties are changing. ‘Conservative’ political theory is shifting away from the basically liberal framework shared by other political parties. It is rediscovering a new conservatism (or a new, new-conservatism).

Roger Scruton, the late British philosopher, called conservatism a “work of rescue.” Many writers have noted how conservative ideas revive in times of crisis. People grow tired of a world that makes their heads spin. They abandon simple, ‘self-evident’ ideologies in favour of simple living. Regular people hunt for old habits and ideas that they can use to improve modern life. They rediscover meaning in a quest for a truly good life — a life well lived — instead of the limitless frenzy of late-stage liberalism.

Conservatism has no holy book. It has no prophet — no Oracle at Delphi. Instead it offers a messy library of trial and error.

Just to be clear, liberty predates liberalism by more than a thousand years. The rule of law, trial by jury, habeas corpus, private property, stable government and all the other key features of western civilization came about centuries before liberalism. Several thousand years of failures help us identify rare success. Things that work well almost never come de novo by genius and invention. The best ideas often appear to come by chance, after centuries of failure.

I created this podcast to tackle the massive shift we are experiencing in political theory, public policy, and modern culture. My starting hypothesis is that conservatism and liberalism are not the same thing. I hope to rediscover the differences between conservatism and liberalism in politics, culture, education, philosophy, economics, religion, history, and more. I think it holds the answer to a better life. I hope you will join me in the search!

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25 Mar 2025#15 Mark Milke: Navigating Victimhood and Utopianism00:49:54

Mark gets things done. He’s written over 1000 columns, participated in nearly 100 research studies, and has published 6 books. He captures the zeitgeist of the centre-right over the last few decades. Definitely someone to follow!

Books mentioned: The Victim Cult, 1867 Project

Dr. Milke’s think tank: The Aristotle Foundation for Public Policy

In this episode, Dr. Mark Milke discusses the importance of examining cause and effect in shaping civilization, the pitfalls of utopian thinking, and the diverse perspectives offered in his book 'The 1867 Project'. Dr. Milke, a seasoned author and researcher, also delves into the dangers of chronic victimhood as outlined in his book 'The Victim Cult'. Other topics covered include classical liberalism, conservatism, libertarianism, immigration, and the evolution of public policy in Canada. This thought-provoking discussion is a must-watch for anyone interested in political philosophy, societal reform, and contemporary issues.

00:00 Introduction: The Importance of Cause and Effect

00:22 Meet Dr. Mark Milke: Author and Think Tank Expert

00:49 The 1867 Project: Understanding Utopianism

01:08 Historical Perspectives on Imperfection

01:45 The Problem with Utopian Thinking

03:17 Debunking Myths: Ranking Ideas and Values

03:58 The Superiority of Certain Ideas

05:34 Challenges in Modern Civilization

07:34 The Importance of Honest Conversations

08:51 Indigenous Canadians: Addressing Disparities

11:56 Justin Trudeau's Post-Nationalist Comments

18:11 The Role of Classical Liberalism

27:01 Understanding Economic Outcomes Beyond Racism

28:11 Libertarianism vs. Classical Liberalism

29:38 The Power of Deep Beliefs and Reform

31:32 The Role of Ideas in Foreign Affairs

32:06 The Importance of Reality in Political Ideologies

42:25 The Victim Cult: Origins and Implications

46:08 The Necessity of Responsibility in a Rights-Based Society

49:20 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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27 Mar 2025#16 JJ McCullough: Navigating Conservative Values in a Changing Political Landscape01:16:02

Book covers capture attention, not content. Everyone knows this, but we still judge books by their covers and YouTubers by their online presence.

JJ McCullough is a young, hip, lighthearted YouTuber. His ‘cover’ grabs attention and forces you to look twice. Once hooked, JJ fascinates with clips, shots, and quips designed to keep you glued.

All dazzle and no depth, you say?

JJ’s video, Canada’s Constitution is Weird, popped up in my Google search on the Canadian constitution. Unlike America, Canada has an ‘unwritten’ constitution. The differences between written and unwritten constitutions are nuanced and lead to profound divergence when applied to lawmaking.

Nuance and profundity do not jump to mind while watching a guy with crazy hair, crazier knick-knacks, and a complete inability to sit still. If I hadn’t done a bunch of research myself, I would have dismissed JJ immediately. But he was asking the right questions, while making it look like an ad for a video game.

For a long time, I kept JJ secret. He mocks, provokes, and ridicules. He often says things I don’t support and would never say myself. But that’s the point: JJ makes you think. He throws cold water in your face with topics that would put you to sleep in other hands.

If we hope to save Canada from our current, uptight malaise, we need people like JJ. He creates and people listen. Watch and learn.

Start with these videos:

My political and philosophical beliefs explained (585k views, 13:45 minutes)

What’s good and bad about conservatism (631k views, 11:43 minutes)

AI show notes:

This episode features a riveting discussion with JJ McCullough, a professional YouTuber and journalist, delving into contemporary political philosophy and conservative principles. Topics explored include the definition of conservatism, the importance of gratitude as a political philosophy, and the challenges posed by populism and radicalization on both the left and right. JJ offers insights on current political figures such as Mark Carney and Pierre Poilievre, and reflects on the complexities of a polarized political environment that demands a balance between maintaining traditional values and adapting to modern realities. Additionally, the conversation touches upon the influence of American culture on Canadian identity and the role of content creators in shaping public discourse.

00:00 Introduction: The Wicked and the Strong Government

00:34 Meet JJ McCullough: The Hip YouTuber with Profound Messages

00:57 Discussion on Gratitude and Political Philosophy

01:52 Welcome JJ McCullough: Background and Current Events

02:19 Mark Carney's Risky Snap Election

03:16 The Changing Landscape of Canadian Politics

08:32 Polling and Voter Behaviour

12:37 Trump's Influence on American Conservatism

21:02 Canadian Anti-Americanism and Cultural Identity

28:13 Defining Conservatism in Canadian Politics

37:57 Reflecting on the Status Quo

39:18 Gratitude and Defense of Values

40:34 Paradoxes of Liberal Democracy

41:50 Challenges of Conservative Governance

47:39 Mentorship and Role Modelling

50:36 The Appeal of Canadian Content 5

5:02 Thoughts on Pierre Poilievre

01:00:29 Postliberalism and Cultural Hierarchies

01:13:52 Concluding Thoughts and Future Plans

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03 Apr 2025#18 Bob Plamondon Unveils John Diefenbaker in a New Light00:56:13

Was John Diefenbaker a buffoon or a great Canadian? He served as Canada’s 13th prime minister and spent 39 years in federal parliament, passing away at 83 while still in office.

Bob Plamondon, author and historian, takes a second look at Diefenbaker’s legacy. No question, Diefenbaker was a complex, conflicted, and often tragic man. Many have found too little to like about him and have chosen to revel in the Chief’s outrageous antics. Plamondon does not hide the antics but doesn’t dismiss worthy accomplishments either. (Watch full video on my YouTube channel)

AI summary:

In this video, Shawn interviews author, historian, and public policy expert Bob Plamondon about his latest book, 'Freedom Fighter: John Diefenbaker's Battle for Canadian Liberties and Independence.' The discussion explores Diefenbaker's complex legacy as a Canadian Prime Minister, his commitment to ordinary Canadians, and his controversial decisions. Plamondon sheds light on Diefenbaker's policies, his difficult relationship with colleagues, and his stance against American influence, offering a nuanced portrayal of a man often mischaracterized in history books.

00:00 Introduction to John Diefenbaker

01:13 Diefenbaker's Political Philosophy and Legacy

02:18 Interview with Bob Plamondon

06:39 Diefenbaker's Early Life and Legal Career

12:23 Diefenbaker's Governance and Leadership Style

17:05 Diefenbaker's Relationship with the Conservative Party

22:47 Diefenbaker's Vision for Canada

28:01 Diefenbaker's Achievements and Controversies

30:50 Diefenbaker's Legacy and Historical Evaluation

42:26 Political Hardball and Social Credit

43:24 Diefenbaker's Views on Federalism

44:12 Quebec's Status and National Programs

45:37 Diefenbaker and Pierre Trudeau

48:17 Diefenbaker's Legacy and the Avro Arrow

49:17 American Interference and the Bank of Canada

51:01 Diefenbaker's Principles and Governance

53:08 Final Thoughts and Reflections

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01 Apr 2025#17 Candice Malcolm: Trudeau’s Legacy, Election Dynamics, & Rise of New Media01:08:18

This episode may not be what you want to hear. The Liberals will win in a landslide, and the NDP will lose everything to the Liberals, if current polling holds.

The Liberals have convinced voters that this election is a referendum on President Trump, not Liberal leadership. The last ten years have been hard on Canadians. The Liberals are smart to maintain focus on a new threat.

Candice Malcolm mixes a blunt view of reality with a thread of hope in new media and the young people who consume it. (Click here to watch it on YouTube)

AI summary:

In this episode, Candice Malcolm, a journalist, broadcaster, bestselling author, and founder of True North News and Juno News, joins Shawn to discuss the current political climate in Canada. They delve into the impact of Justin Trudeau's governance, the potential rise of the Liberal party under Mark Carney, and the dramatic collapse of the NDP. Candace also shares insights on the role of the media, the emergence of independent content creators, and the broader implications for Canada’s future. This episode offers an in-depth exploration of the complexities shaping Canadian politics and society today.

00:00 Introduction: Trudeau's Impact on Canada

00:43 Candace Malcolm's Election Predictions

00:56 The Liberal Party's Narrative Control

01:15 Discussion on Canadian Identity

01:35 Introduction to Candace Malcolm

01:56 Week One of the Federal Election Campaign

02:10 The Shift in Canadian Politics

07:41 The Collapse of the NDP

08:06 Mark Carney's Rise and Influence

13:33 Comparing Carney and Trudeau

15:40 Canada's Lost Decade and Future Challenges

31:39 The Role of Bureaucracy in Canadian Politics

35:37 Justin Trudeau's Influence on Canadian Bureaucracy

37:01 Canada's Identity Beyond Anti-Americanism

37:39 Personal Reflections on Canadian and American Relations

39:01 The Evolution of Canadian Nationalism

40:34 Challenges in Upholding Canadian Rights and Freedoms

41:02 The Impact of Liberal Policies on Canadian Society

53:47 The Trucker Convoy: A Grassroots Movement

01:01:29 The Role of Independent Media in Canadian Politics

01:07:49 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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08 Apr 2025#19 Daniel Dufort, Pres. MEI: Tackling Tariffs, Housing, and Trade Barriers00:38:34

I tried my best to disagree with Daniel. Doesn’t Quebec block pipelines to protect its cultural identity? How can Canadians pout about tariffs when we have major intra-provincial trade barriers? Why talk about making it easier to build homes without talking about a construction sector that seems built to protect itself and resist efficiency?

In each case, Daniel corrected misconceptions with evidence. He also offered hope for the future. MEI has launched a Liberty and Leadership program to help train the next generation of government leaders on the fundamentals of classical economics and social policy.

You can watch the episode on YouTube at Concepts with Shawn Whatley

AI summary:

In this episode, Shawn interviews Daniel Dufort, president of the MEI (formerly Montreal Economic Institute), to discuss pressing economic issues. They delve into the impact of tariffs, the inefficiency they create, and why free trade and economic liberalism are crucial for robust economies. Daniel shares insights on the need for removing interprovincial trade barriers, which hinder economic growth in Canada. The conversation also covers the housing crisis, emphasizing the importance of increasing supply to tackle affordability and regulatory hurdles that stifle construction. Additionally, Daniel introduces MEI's Liberty and Leadership program, aimed at fostering classical liberal values among youths aspiring to work in politics. The discussion rounds off with a look at the current state of Canada's healthcare system and the urgent need for reform.

00:00 Introduction to Tariffs

00:36 Guest Introduction: Daniel Dufort

00:59 Discussion on Tariffs and Economic Impact

05:54 Interprovincial Trade and Protectionism

09:58 Public Choice Theory and Rent Seeking

15:58 Housing Market Challenges and Solutions

27:57 Liberty and Leadership Program

34:16 Healthcare System Concerns

38:21 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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10 Apr 2025#21 Dr. Arnie Lange: How to Sort Conservatism in Canada00:57:36

Arney Lange has applied his medical and military mind to a structured definition of conservatism that includes 7 different types along two axes. He said there are 3rd and 4th dimensional axes also, but he didn’t want to overwhelm me with details.

He has found a way to package complex ideas in a format that most high-school students could manage. Order through his website or Amazon.

AI summary and chapters:

Dr. Arney Lange, a former medical researcher and current internist in Ottawa, unpacks the complexities of conservatism in Canadian politics. With a background that includes teaching, military service, and authorship of four books on political theory, Dr. Lange explores the different facets of conservatism, ranging from liberation to conservation. He discusses the historical context, the role of private property in environmentalism, and how citizenship responsibilities play into the larger national narrative. Don't miss this deep dive into political thought, enriched by Dr. Lange's unique poetic perspective.

00:00 Introduction to Dr. Arney Lange

00:53 Defining Conservatism in Canadian Politics

02:27 The Seven Types of Conservatives

02:52 The Freedom Axis and Its Implications

03:34 The Conservation Axis and Its Types

05:33 Motivations Behind Dr. Lange's Work

14:08 The Ship of State Metaphor

19:30 Democracy and Political Legitimacy

30:32 Influence of American Constitutional Ideas

32:15 Debating John Locke's Philosophy

38:59 Identity Politics and Its Impact

45:55 Environmentalism and Conservatism

52:01 A Patriotic Canadian Poem

56:27 Conclusion and Farewell

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09 Apr 2025#20 Roy Eappen: Transgenderism, Mark Carney, Liberals, and the Election00:41:48

Roy has spent decades inside the belly of the Big Blue beast. He knows retail Canadian conservatism as well as anyone. Not only does he attend almost every conservative political conference, event, and lecture (including CPAC in the US), he also has photos of himself standing with more world leaders than most individual world leaders can boast!

Including unique insights and experiences, Dr. Eappen is probably the only gay, Conservative, monarchist, first-generation immigrant, endocrinologist in Canada, or perhaps anywhere in the world.

Enjoy

AI summary and chapters:

Exploring Conservatism in Canada with Dr. Roy Eappen In this episode, we sit down with Dr. Roy Eappen, an assistant professor of medicine at McGill University and a long-time conservative activist in Canada. Dr. Eappen discusses the state of conservatism, the importance of constitutional monarchy, and the challenges within the conservative movement. We delve into his work with the organization 'Do No Harm,' which seeks to combat the influence of 'woke' policies in medicine, particularly concerning transgender youth treatments. Additionally, Dr. Eappen shares his views on immigration, the role of religion in public life, and the current political landscape in Canada. Join us for an insightful conversation about maintaining and evolving conservative values in today's world.

00:00 Introduction to Constitutional Monarchies

01:02 Meet Dr. Roy Eappen 01:43 Conservatism in Canadian Politics

02:56 Challenges Within the Conservative Party

04:55 The Role of Ideas in Conservatism

06:11 Support for the Monarchy

07:27 Work with Do No Harm

09:26 Views on Transgender Youth Policies

11:58 Canada's Response to Medical Reviews

18:28 Personal Background and Immigration Story

19:29 Political Figures and Free Trade

23:21 The Liberal Fix: Can It Work?

23:28 Mr. Carney's Influence and Conflicts

24:04 Addressing Average Canadians' Concerns

24:28 Identity Politics and Climate Change

25:28 Skepticism on Climate Spending

27:03 The Role of Religion in Public Life

29:25 Cultural and Civic Identity in Canada

32:05 The Importance of Civics Education

33:04 Conservatism vs. Liberalism

34:05 The Value of Aesthetics and Architecture

37:00 Cancel Culture and Its Impact

37:45 Concluding Thoughts on Canada's Future

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