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24 Jan 20249 | 8 Essential Skills to Become a Transformational Change KATALYST00:39:49

Move from Technical Expert to Influential Leader


Do you want to move beyond being a tools or process improvement project “doer” or technical expert to a transformational change leader?  


Have you wanted to step into greater influence and impact in your organization?


Or perhaps you're a leader seeking to create broader organizational change but don't quite know how?


Leading transformational change to create a high-performing culture requires you to pair your technical expertise with social and relational skills that will enable you to catalyze change and accelerate the rate of learning in your organization.


In this episode we’ll explore the importance of your role as a transformational change agent and how you can step into greater impact by growing your leadership skills with my framework – the KATALYST™ model.


“Katalyst” is a mix of the words “catalyst” and "kata" – it is someone who accelerates the rate of learning for organizational progress.


Hit play to discover how you can step into your impact as a transformational leader and bridge the gap between where you are today and becoming an influential change Katalyst ™ in your organization.


 You'll Learn:

  • The 8 leadership competencies in the KATALYST™ model  
  • The difference between Catalyst versus “Katalyst”™
  • The definition of “kata” as routines that support problem-solving and coaching for improvement
  • How to move from technical expert to influential leader
  • How to get your senior team to buy into the vision for a people-centered learning organization and invest the time and effort to get there


If you want to increase your influence and realize your vision of a thriving people-centered learning organization, you won’t want to miss this episode. Tune in now!


Looking for more inspiration and actionable tips to step into your leadership impact? Be sure to subscribe and follow Chain of Learning so you never miss an episode.



Important Links:

  • Episode webpage with additional resources: ChainOfLearning.com/9
  • Download the Change KATALYST™ Self-Assessment: https://kbjanderson.com/katalyst/ 
  • My book: LearningToLeadLeadingToLearn.com
  • Work with me: KBJAnderson.com
  • Follow me on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kbjanderson/ 


Timestamps:


2:05: The Change KATALYST™ model

3:12: Transition from a Practitioner to a Change Leader

6:28: The Inspiration of “kata”

7:11: The impact of implementing KATALYST™ model

9:38:  K – Knowledgeable Business Expert 

13:39: A – Analytical Systems Thinker

18:19: T – Tactical Strategic Aligner

22:11: A – Astute Political Navigator

25:03: L – Lifelong Learning Enthusiast 

27:42: Y – Yes-Minded Persuader 

31:29: S – Skillful Facilitator 

34:48: T – Transformational Coaching Leader

19 Mar 202539| Doing More Isn’t the Answer: Why Simple Wins [with Lisa Bodell]00:37:49

Ever feel like your to-do list never ends? 


Running from meeting to meeting with no time to think—let alone lead or create? 


You’re not alone.


The problem isn’t you – that you’re not working hard enough. 


You’re probably stuck in the complexity trap—buried in endless demands, inefficiencies, and busywork that keep you (and your team) from doing what truly matters.


To help you simplify and focus on meaningful work, I sat down with Lisa Bodell, CEO of FutureThink and bestselling author of Why Simple Wins and Kill the Company. 


Lisa has a clear message:

💡 The problem isn’t the people—it’s the process of the work.

In this episode, we dive into the biggest barriers to your effectiveness—what you can do to cut through the noise and create space for work that actually matters. If you’re ready to escape the complexity trap and start simplifying to make a real impact, this episode is a must-listen.

YOU’LL LEARN:

  • How meetings and emails are blocking real improvement
  • What defines truly meaningful work—including time to think
  • The connection between innovation and simplification—and how to stay ahead of the curve
  • The biggest mistakes that make simplification harder (and how to avoid them)
  • The first step to simplifying your work and life


ABOUT MY GUEST:


Lisa Bodell, CEO of FutureThink and bestselling author of Kill the Company and Why Simple Wins, inspires leaders to transform work to unlock true potential and find deeper fulfillment. With her bold, no-nonsense approach to simplification, Lisa delivers radical insights and actionable tools to fuel extraordinary success.

IMPORTANT LINKS:

TIMESTAMPS FOR THIS EPISODE:


02:09 Why leaders feel overwhelmed—and how to fix it

03:51 The illusion of control and why organizing isn’t the same as simplifying

04:28 Why doing less can make you more valuable
05:09 The daring act of simplifying and not adding to our workload
07:26 The cost of valuing others’ time more than your own
08:27 Reframing your mindset of deep thinking time
09:31 Why we don’t do our best thinking at work
09:45 Two ways to start simplifying a chaotic workday

11:36 Why meetings with no agenda can be a time waster
12:43 How to shift your day so you’re not constantly checking emails
14:03 The definition of meaningful work
17:02 The link between innovation and simplification
18:08 3 Common pitfalls to successfully simplifying one’s work
21:19 Why one of the biggest barriers in transformation is leadership
24:08 Simplicity as it relates to tools, training, and messaging
24:45 How to apply the tool: Kill a stupid rule
28:55 Contributing meaningfully and effectively to improve your value
29:20 The future of work and how to improve work and life
32:14 The best place to start to start simplifying your life

29 May 202418 | Discover the Real Meaning of Kaizen00:25:09

What do you think of when you hear the word “kaizen”? 


An event? A process that you are working on improving? Something else? 


The Japanese word “kaizen” is usually translated to mean “continuous improvement.” But there is a deeper meaning. It’s actually the lynchpin to creating a real culture of continuous improvement. 


In this episode, I unpack the essence of kaizen, not only as a method for process improvement but also as a personal and organizational mindset for pursuing excellence.


Inspired by my recent keynote at the Shingo Institute conference and insights from studying Japanese and leading my Japan Study Trips, I explore how “kaizen” goes deeper than mere process improvement. It’s about cultivating an environment where everyone feels empowered to contribute to change.


You’ll also hear the connection between Devo’s song “Whip It” and the word “kaizen” – and how you can both “whip it bad” and “whip it good” when it comes to continuous improvement.

YOU’LL LEARN: 

  • How kaizen represents the discipline to continuously pursue positive change within yourself and in your organization
  • Key strategies for identifying and correcting misalignments between your intentions and actions so that you can create a culture where continuous improvement is practiced by everyone
  • How you can shift from being the primary problem-solver to an enabler who cultivates the skills necessary for overcoming challenges
  • Effective ways to embed the principles of kaizen into personal leadership habits, enhancing your impact as a leader or coach and setting an example for others to follow
  • Insights into how you can use a scientific problem-solving method for personal improvement as well as problem-solving 


Tune into this episode to discover how – “when a problem comes along”  – you and your team can all “whip it” to solve problems at all levels and create an enduring culture of improvement. And I bet you’ll be singing this song for weeks!


 

IMPORTANT LINKS:


TIMESTAMPS:

  • [00:00] Understanding the true meaning of Kaizen
  • [03:44] Psychological safety and leaders’ responses to mistakes are key for an operational excellence culture
  • [08:54] The real meaning of Kaizen is about self-discipline, continuous improvement, and making change for the greater good
  • [11:21] Creating an organization filled with problem solvers with Larry Culp
  • [17:46] How intention is about aligning behavior with impact and purpose
  • [19:33] How to use Plan-Do-Study-Adjust (PDCA) or Study-Adjust-Plan-Do (SAPD) cycles for personal improvement
16 Apr 202541| Transactions to Transformations: Positioning for Greater Influence [with Betsy Jordyn]01:00:17

You’re doing great work….yet you know you could have a greater influence.

You have a vision for more. More strategic work. More influence.

Only question—how do you get there?

The issue isn’t your talent or skills. It’s how you are positioned—how your clients or organization see (and value) your role.

In this episode, I’m joined by Betsy Jordyn—former Disney OD consultant turned brand positioning strategist—to help you reshape how others perceive your value and become the one leaders turn to when it comes to making significant changes to their leadership and culture.

Besty shares actionable ways to communicate your value so you can land the roles and work you truly deserve. And we both share insights we've learned from evolving the framing of our own positioning over time.

Whether you’re an internal change leader tired of being stuck in execution mode or a consultant struggling to land strategic engagements, this conversation is your road map to stop playing small.

YOU’LL LEARN:

  • What positioning actually is—and why it matters
  • How to spot the signs your positioning isn’t landing the way you want
  • The 3 levels of positioning every leader and consultant should master
  • Real examples from our own careers on how we’ve evolved our positioning
  • A simple process to clearly articulate your value and stand out in your market

ABOUT MY GUEST:

Betsy Jordyn is a Brand Positioning Strategist who helps consultants and coaches clarify their message, amplify their influence, and monetize their strengths. Drawing on her experience as a former Disney OD consultant and leader of an external practice serving brands like Wyndham and AAA, she empowers clients to make a bigger impact through authentic thought leadership.


IMPORTANT LINKS:

TIMESTAMPS FOR THIS EPISODE:

03:26 What positioning is and why it matters

06:48 Why your brand is your reputation
07:54 Signs your brand positioning is off

10:38 Betsy’s personal story in understanding the importance of positioning

18:28 How Betsy helped Katie improve her positioning

25:37 Changing the name from Japan Study Trip to Japan Leadership Experience

28:42 Clarity - the highest level of positioning
32:25 Second level of positioning that happens a client approaches you with a request
35:25 How to clarify the strategic frame and position yourself against that

42:15 Third level of positioning in positioning yourself as a strategic partner

46:12 How to position yourself when working with a new client
48:44 The opportunity of stepping out of the box and become a thinking partner
50:06 One key learning to reposition your own work

54:07 The strategic framework to pivot your messaging

01 May 202416 | Leveraging Analytical Systems Thinking to Drive Improvement [with Mark Graban]00:46:04

Are you focusing on the right problems in your organization? More importantly, are you creating the conditions and processes to solve them effectively?


In this episode, Mark Graban and I explore the importance of developing the skills of an Analytical Systems Thinker—one of the eight core competencies in my Change KATALYST™ model—to catalyze truly meaningful change.

You’ll gain a better understanding of how to make informed decisions and drive improvement by applying the right kind of analytics instead of reacting to your metrics' ups and downs. Mark also shares ways to think more systemically about processes across your organization.

We explore why fostering an experimental culture and responding kindly to mistakes is crucial for driving organizational innovation and improvement.  

If you’re looking to advance as a continuous improvement change leader who leads change and creates real improvement, this is an episode you’ll want to tune into now. 

YOU’LL LEARN: 

  • The difference between leading change and leading actual improvement 
  • How monitoring metrics and experimenting move the needle in a statistically meaningful way 
  • How to react less and lead more effectively by mastering the art of interpreting data to discern statistical signals and genuine performance shifts
  • What it takes to create psychological safety and encourage continuous organizational improvement
  • The importance of how leaders respond to mistakes to create a culture of learning, problem-solving, and innovation
  • The importance of modeling, encouraging, and rewarding candor to create a culture where mistakes and learning are embraced 


You’ll also hear why Mark is thrilled to join Katie’s Japan Study Trip this November. This is a high-value opportunity to observe lean principles in action and understand the heart and soul behind creating a culture of continuous improvement. Submit your application today to join Mark, Toyota leader Isao Yoshino, and other global change leaders on Katie’s November program. Spaces are limited!


IMPORTANT LINKS:


TIMESTAMPS:

  • [00:00] Driving change vs. leading actual improvement
  • [03:11] Defining characteristics of effective Analytical Systems Thinkers 
  • [05:29] The process of value stream mapping and system dynamics
  • [07:26] The Measure of Success & advice for leaders looking to use data to inform better decision-making
  • [14:47] The risk of wasting time & resources if you remain in a reactive state
  • [20:14] The importance of mistakes for a culture of learning, problem-solving, and innovation
  • [32:43]  Key takeaways from Mark’s and Katie’s experiences in Japan and the value of going on a Japan Study Trip
  • [41:36] Mark’s best piece of advice for other continuous improvement change leaders
21 Feb 202411 | Fulfill Your Transformational Leadership Potential [with Karen Martin]00:52:02


What’s your purpose as a continuous improvement leader? And how can you fulfill your potential as a transformational change leader?

Tune in to my conversation with master operational excellence change leader Karen Martin to find out! 

Becoming a transformational change leader means balancing your technical skills to deliver results while cultivating the influence, coaching, and facilitation skills to lead change and develop people to create a high-performing organizational culture.

Whether you are an operational excellence professional or a leader that has a passion for continuous improvement, this episode will inspire you to excel in both the formal role that you were hired to do and the greater potential of the role that you want to lead transformational change. 

From learning how to more effectively navigate the complexities of business language to influence leaders, cultivating effective coaching and facilitation skills, and becoming aware of the limiting pitfalls that can hinder your impact – this episode is a must listen. 

About My Guest:

Karen Martin is the President and Founder of TKMG Academy and Founder of TKMG, Inc., and is an award-winning author of several books, including "Clarity First" and "The Outstanding Organization". Her clients include Fortune 500 companies and government agencies from local to federal levels. With a master’s degree in education, Karen is a mentor at heart and committed to fostering growth and nurturing potential in others to achieve lasting results and lead organizational change.


You’ll Learn:

  • The difference between the purpose of your role as a continuous improvement leader and your potential to become a transformational change leader
  • How to effectively transfer knowledge and develop problem-solving capabilities, tailoring approaches between reflective and directive coaching
  • The importance of speaking the language of the business to influence decisions that align with your organization’s goals and growth needs
  • The risk of short-term improvement kaizen or rapid process improvement events without follow-up to sustain improvement or building the team's skill sets 
  • The importance of having a coach or mentor to support your growth

Tune in now for actionable strategies and insights to equip you to step into your greater transformational leadership potential and position you to lead lasting impact in your organization.

Important Links:

Are you enjoying the Chain of Learning podcast? Be sure to subscribe or follow –  and to share this podcast with your friends and colleagues so we can all strengthen our Chain of Learning® – together. 

Timestamps:

03:09 The purpose and potential of a transformational change leader
11:53 Practical advice for accelerated discoveries about how to get results and develop people
16:41 Learning to be an effective change leader through facilitating, overcoming fear, navigating organizational dynamics
27:16 Gaps in continuous improvement cultures and how to overcome them
35:56 Internal-capability challenges and opportunities for change leaders, managers, and executives
37:03 Karen’s example about valuing the people-development side of business


03 Apr 202414 | Becoming an Astute Political Navigator [with Betsy Jordyn]00:38:54

What's your reaction when you hear the phrase “corporate politics”? Does it make you cringe and want to run away, or do you get curious about how to leverage them to influence outcomes?

In this episode, Betsy Jordyn joins me to discuss the essential skill of how to successfully navigate organizational politics. As a long-time organizational development consultant for companies like Disney, Wyndham, and AAA, Betsy’s expertise on the subject is enlightening. 


Throughout our conversation, you’ll learn the difference between good politics and toxic environments and what’s at risk if leaders don’t prioritize a focus on astutely navigating those dynamics. Betsy also shares valuable details about some of the more complex organizational transformations she has led, and how she successfully maneuvered within those political landscapes. 


If you’re looking to gain influence and effectively leverage corporate politics so that you can lead change and  step into your full leadership potential, then you won’t want to miss this episode.

YOU'LL LEARN:

  • Steps to help you master the critical skill of being an Astute Political Navigator — one of the eight core Change KATALYST™ competencies to further develop your expertise as an organizational change leader 
  • A transformational framework to help executives and change leaders like you articulate your vision, integrate individual leadership voices, and align organizational goals 
  • How to effectively leverage political dynamics, avoid the trap of becoming another pair of hands, and increase your influence
  • The power in politics — how to balance diverse perspectives within an organization and  differentiate between good politics and a toxic environment
  • The essential roles of empathy, respect, deep listening, and function-specific language to effectively lead and manage change


IMPORTANT LINKS:


TIMESTAMPS:

  • [00:00] Introduction to the episode 
  • [03:43] Navigating good politics as an organizational change leader
  • [06:16] Lessons in navigating both formal and informal political structures 
  • [11:26] How to help leaders and consultants articulate goals and bring executives on board 
  • [17:48] How to avoid the trap of being a pair of hands: influencing vs. executing 
  • [20:34] Differentiating good politics from toxic environments
  • [26:59] The connection between Betsy’s current and past roles in leading organizational change and coaching consultants for growth and impact
27 Sep 2023Chain of Learning Podcast Trailer00:01:35

If you’re a leader who knows that people are at the center of exceptional organizational culture – and that a commitment to continuous learning is the way to create that culture – tune in now to Chain of Learning.

Chain of Learning® is where the links of leadership and learning unite.

Join your host, Katie Anderson, internationally recognized leadership consultant, award-winning author of “Learning to Lead, Leading to Learn”, and fellow learning enthusiast, for a journey that will help you master the skills to lead your organization from a traditional culture of “doing” into a vibrant, high-performing organization of continuous learning. 

Chain of Learning® is the trusted source for purpose-driven leaders and continuous improvement, lean, and agile practitioners seeking positive inspiration, innovative ideas, proven best practices, and actionable strategies to lead transformational change.

Tune into each episode to gain the knowledge and skills you need to build a thriving people-centered learning culture, achieve needed business results, and expand your impact, so that you – and your team – can leave a lasting legacy.

Subscribe and follow Chain of Learning® today so you never miss an episode!

Podcast website: ChainOfLearning.com
Katie Anderson’s website: KBJAnderson.com
Connect with Katie Anderson on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kbjanderson/
Read Katie's book: LearningToLeadLeadingToLearn.com

27 Nov 202431 | How Reflection Fuels Growth: Celebrating One Year of Chain of Learning00:32:50

It’s Chain of Learning’s first anniversary this month! And it’s the time of year for gratitude and thanks – and for reflection. 


Thank you for listening and for being part of this Chain of Learning that we are growing together. 


To mark this podcast milestone, I want to practice what I talk about on nearly every episode – reflection – as I believe it IS the foundation of learning and impact.


In this episode, I share my reflections from the Chain of Learning’s first year and walk  you through the process I use and teach for reflection – so you can apply this same reflection process to whatever you are working on, both professionally and personally. 

Whether you’re leading teams, fostering innovation, or driving continuous improvement – or simply looking to take the next step forward in your life – purposeful reflection is the foundation for your ultimate success.


YOU’LL LEARN:

  • The meaning of the Japanese word Hansei – self-reflection – and the risk if you get caught more in doing and don’t take time to reflect 
  • How you can use the Plan-Do-Study-Adjust (PDSA) cycle to improve and why I suggest we call it the Study-Adjust-Plan-Do (SAPD) cycle
  • The 3 ways to reflect with intention even while short on time
  • The backstory to how this podcast started and personal reflections of what I’ve learned and adjusted over producing 31 episodes
  • The questions to ask yourself for meaningful reflection

I invite you to embed reflection into your practice — not just as a one-time exercise but as a regular habit – that guides you toward excellence. 

Thanks for the opportunity to grow and strengthen our Chain of Learning together. Here’s to the journey of growth and another year of reflections ahead!

IMPORTANT LINKS:

TIMESTAMPS FOR THIS EPISODE: 


2:37 The meaning of the Japanese word Hansei
4:11 The 5 steps to applying Hansei and using the (SAPD) cycle

5:28 Reflection Process 1: immediate self reflection after an event, even if you’re short on time
6:27 Reflection Process 2: reflect with others or in a group setting to get feedback and share ideas
8:05 Reflection Process 3: reflect over time by looking back
9:38 Backstory of how the Chain of Learning podcast started
12:37 Process launching the podcast and the challenges and lessons learned
18:53 Personal growth and what I have learned over time since starting the podcast
31:47 Questions to ask yourself to add reflection in your daily, monthly and yearly process

31:35 Share your process for reflection on LinkedIn or via email

13 Dec 20236 | Inside the Lean Mindset: Behind-the-Scenes Leadership Insights00:25:27

Quick question, have you ever wondered what it would be like to listen in to “hallway” conversations to discover what leaders say and reflect on with each other?


If you're curious, you're in the right spot. In this episode, I take you behind-the-scenes with exclusive conversations I had with transformational change leaders and executives in attendance at GE’s The Lean Mindset. This exciting event, hosted by Larry Culp, Chairman and CEO of GE and GE Aerospace, brought together executives from some of the world’s top companies, professional athletes, and thought leaders all focused on pursuing excellence through continuous learning. 


Thanks to GE's generosity, I was invited to both share my knowledge and to collect knowledge, by bringing my microphone to glean insights from the leaders in attendance during the spaces between the mainstage events. I can’t wait to share them with you here! 



You’ll hear highlights from my conversations with leaders including: 

  • Chef Eric Klein – Culinary Vice President and Partner at Wolfgang Puck Catering 
  • Dr. Lisa Yerian – Chief Improvement Officer at The Cleveland Clinic
  • Betsy Bingham – Vice President of Lean Operations at GE Aerospace 
  • Phil Wickler – Chief Transformation Officer for GE Aerospace
  • Pat Byrne – Senior Vice President for Operational Transformation at GE

What you’ll learn:

  • The importance of embracing and learning from failure
  • The power of humility, empathy, and making daily connections with your team
  • Strategies to empower problem-solving and teamwork, including going to gemba, leveraging meaningful metrics, and creating structured approaches to improvement
  • The mindset and behavior shifts leaders need to make to build effective leadership habits and lead by example
  • Being an effective leader doesn’t mean you have all the answers; it means you’re willing to ask questions, go see, and always keep learning.

If you are trying to create a high-performing learning organization, you won’t want to miss these invaluable insights. Hit play now to be inspired about how you can embed a lean mindset in your organization and accelerate your impact as a change leader.



Important Links:


Timestamps 

  • 00:55 – Delving into the Insights from GE’s The Lean Mindset Event
  • 01:27 – Reflecting on personal interactions at the event
  • 01:40 – A deep dive into the principles of lean management
  • 02:38 – Presenting the esteemed lineup of leaders
  • 03:10 – Overview of themes covered at The Lean Mindset
  • 04:14 – Excerpt from Chef Eric Klein: Exploring the Lean Mindset in a Kitchen
  • 05:14 – Emphasizing the importance of humility and the willingness to embrace failure to evolve as a learner
  • 05:59 – Dr. Lisa Yerian discusses balancing humility and hunger in leadership
  • 07:16 – Betsy Bingham on problem-solving and the human element
  • 08:04 – Phil Wickler shares Insight on the significance of Gemba
  • 08:55 – Pat Byrne explores the importance of Gemba for both employees and customers
  • 09:35 – Betsy Bingham on problem-solving efficiency
  • 10:57 – Recognizing the value of repetition to build lean mindset skills
  • 11:42 – Dr. Yerian reinforces the importance of quality repetition
  • 12:35 – Leveraging metrics to drive operational improvements
  • 15:35 – Embracing challenges and how to approach to problem resolution
  • 16:35 – Benefits of breaking the telling habit for effective leadership
  • 17:35 – Insights on cultivating a lean mindset within Your qrganizational culture
  • 22:30 – Larry Culp's three key takeaways
  • 23:50 – Closing thoughts on the event and inspiring team dynamics
11 Dec 202432| When Crisis Strikes, Hold on to Your Purpose [with Isaac Mitchell]00:51:19

Is your organization stuck in a constant state of crisis, where everything feels like an urgent, must-fix-now situation?


As a leader, cutting through that noise is key to prioritizing and aligning your team’s efforts to focus on what really matters.


In this episode, Isaac Mitchell, VP of Operational Excellence at Ballad Health System, shares his experience leading through Hurricane Helene and how he's fostering an organizational culture of continuous improvement and operational excellence.

Isaac shares how his leadership journey—from engineer at Toyota to executive in healthcare—shaped his approach to real crises. He discusses how understanding purpose—his own, his team’s, and the organization’s—helps him distinguish between what’s urgent and what’s truly important.

By focusing on what matters, you can create the impact you’re striving for. To me, that’s what living with intention is—knowing your purpose and aligning your actions to make it happen.

YOU’LL LEARN:

  • How to distinguish between true crises and perceived urgency
  • The importance of aligning organizational and personal purpose to drive strategic success
  • A framework for where to spend your time as a leader to build a high-performing organization
  • How to demonstrate respect for people by encouraging a personal understanding of purpose and owning the thinking process, not the answers
  • Practical tips for building a people-centered culture that drives sustainable growth


In our conversation about intention and goals, Isaac asks about my next big goal—listen for the big reveal, never shared publicly until now! I’d love to hear your thoughts.


ABOUT MY GUEST:


Isaac Mitchell is an experienced strategy deployment executive and is currently a Vice President at Ballad Health and a guest lecturer at the University of Tennessee’s Department of Industrial and Systems Engineering. 


IMPORTANT LINKS:


TIMESTAMPS FOR THIS EPISODE: 


3:08 Navigating crises during Hurricane Helene through community and shared purpose

9:00 True crises vs. perceived urgency 

10:58 Avoid falling into the "expert trap" during crises
14:10 Respecting people’s development and using Gemba

16:19 How to use daruma dolls in goal setting
20:57 Katie’s BIG new goal reveal

22:25 Using a hanko when coaching for  problem solving
30:36 Isaac’s North Star for the year and Japan Study Trip lessons
32:11 How Gemba helps leaders prioritize what's essential

36:23 Setting big goals and using them to push for growth 

41:34 Value of cultural and business learning
45:54 The warp and weft metaphor for goal setting

Spaces still available for the May 2025 Japan Study Trip - apply now!

29 Nov 20235 | Achieve More by Performing Less [with Eduardo Briceño]00:33:26

Have you ever felt burned out and exhausted from the constant pressure to perform, to achieve, or to get it “right”? 


Or is your organization putting a lot of effort into improvement projects and strategic initiatives, but you are finding that you aren’t making much improvement and you are working on the same problems year after year?


If so, you might be stuck in what growth mindset and learning organization expert Eduardo Briceño calls the “Performance Paradox”. This is the counterintuitive reality that a constant focus on performing actually leads to lower performance. 


The secret to high performance is not actually working harder, but learning better. 


You won’t want to miss this episode of Chain of Learning with Eduardo Briceño where we talk about his book “The Performance Paradox: Turning the Power of Mindset into Action” and how you can master the Learning Zone to achieve better performance.


In this episode of Chain of Learning you will learn:


  • How you can turn a growth mindset into action by balancing the “Performance Zone” and the “Learning Zone”
  • The risk for you and your organization if you get stuck in chronic performance 
  • The impact of seeking and receiving feedback on performance and improvement
  • 5 tips to embed growth and learning micro-habits for yourself and within your organization  
  • How you can create the organizational conditions that result in a high-performing learning culture


Tune in to discover the impact that overcoming the Performance Paradox – and mastering the Learning Zone – can have on you, your team, and your organization. 


About My Guest: Eduardo Briceño

Eduardo Briceño is a global keynote speaker, facilitator, and bestselling author of “The Performance Paradox: Turning the Power of Mindset Into Action.” He works with many of the world’s leading companies in developing cultures of learning and high performance. 


Eduardo co-founded Mindset Works – the pioneer in bringing growth mindset strategies into organizations – with Stanford Professor Carol Dweck (my guest on Chain of Learning Episode 3). 


His TED talks, “How to Get Better at Things You Care About” & “The Power of Belief”  have been viewed over nine million times, and he has been featured in publications such as Harvard Business Review, Forbes, and Fast Company.


Important links


Timestamps


00:39: Understanding the Performance Paradox

01:14: The secret to high performance

03:03: What is the performance paradox?

04:20: Connection between growth mindset and performance paradox

05:24: The impact of learning how to change

07:19: Discussion on performance and learning culture

13:04: Understanding the dangers of staying in chronic performance

17:22: Overcoming challenges of limited time for learning

19:58: Micro intention and reflection during learning

21:32: Leadership learning and challenges

26:56: Advice for leading change & building a learning culture

32:51: Upcoming chain of learning episodes


13 Nov 202430 | Fostering Excellence Through Joy and Respect for People [with Stephanie Bursek]00:40:45

Has your organization been making progress on its continuous improvement journey, only to find things starting to stall?


Is your team hesitant to share ideas, or are your lean or process improvement initiatives viewed mainly as cost-cutting measures rather than a comprehensive strategy for long-term success?


Perhaps you've been focusing on just one side of the path of excellence—improvement processes and tools—while overlooking a critical component: respect for people.


In this episode, Stephanie Bursek, Director of Human Resources at TrippNT, shares how her company's made a leap forward in their lean transformation by leading with the heart to focus on people and joy.


By going beyond process improvement tools to deeply focusing on people first, Stephanie and her executive team have fostered greater collaboration, trust, and growth, resulting in a thriving, engaged workplace with more problem-solving and innovation.


Tune in to learn how embedding respect for people into your organization’s foundation can drive sustainable cultural transformation and elevate both business results and employee engagement.


YOU’LL LEARN:

  • How to create balance in your organization between the pillars of continuous improvement and respect for people
  • The importance of navigating tension between getting results and allowing time for your team to grow on the path towards achieving them
  • Why performance management should be a two-way street that includes upward feedback for continuous learning and alignment
  • How embedding respect for people and psychological safety into your organization can lead to improved results and enhance employee experiences
  • The benefits of a people-centered culture for elevating both fulfillment and performance

ABOUT MY GUEST:

Stephanie is a seasoned Human Resources executive with a passion for how to create a thriving organizational culture. As the Director for Human Resources at TrippNT, a family-owned manufacturing company based in the U.S., she's focused on building a unique organizational culture by uniting the pillars of continuous improvement and respect for people.


IMPORTANT LINKS:

TIMESTAMPS: 


04:35 Stephanie’s realization of the missing element in her organization

08:10 The importance of a people-first approach to achieve results & improvements

12:11 The impact of the Collaborative Model for increasing productivity

14:15 The benefits of a psychologically safe environment that fosters respect & leads to better business results

19:03 The provocative quote from “Tree Ring Management” that always get jaw drops

20:27 How the leadership team at TrippNT models behavior that creates an engaging environment
24:10 Examples of a people-entered environment created through humility & resilience

16 Oct 202428 | Leading Organizational Transformation the Right Way [with Cindy Hinds]00:33:55

Do you ever feel stuck as a leader? It may seem like no matter how many problems you solve or tools you implement, you're still not seeing progress toward a sustainable organizational culture of continuous improvement and operational excellence.

Maybe you have been leading change the wrong way.

In this episode, Cindy Hinds shares what she’s learned from 25 years of experience about how to lead organizational change the right way. She highlights what she has learned from her journey from being a technical expert to becoming a transformational change leader within a global organization who is equipping leaders at all levels to solve problems and innovating to drive business performance.


Transformational leadership isn’t about knowing all the answers. Connect with your purpose, step away from being the "doer," and empower others so that you – and they – can see better results.

YOU’LL LEARN:

  • How to implement transformational leadership practices that create lasting organizational change, not just short-term results
  • The importance of using simple terms instead of technical jargon to help get buy-in and help others understand the problems they need to solve
  • Strategies to manage burnout by surrounding yourself with a supportive community and focusing on what truly matters
  • How to bring your whole self to the workplace to fulfill your complete purpose and build trust within the organization
  • The benefits of the maturity model to help leaders close the gap between their current condition and the results they want to achieve

ABOUT MY GUEST:

Cindy Hinds is the Global Director of Enterprise Excellence at A.O. Smith, manufacturing company with sites based across North America, Asia and Europe, where she is responsible for architecting A.O. Smith’s journey to create a culture of highly engaged people who are aligned in solving problems and innovating to continuously improve.


IMPORTANT LINKS:


TIMESTAMPS FOR THIS EPISODE: 

[5:13] Leading the right way and asking questions for a continuous improvement culture

[8:12] Finding gaps through Gemba to transform your approach as a leader

[11:18] Franklin Covey’s Speed of Trust Curriculum to connect behaviors to business outcomes
[15:06] Using “Nemawashi” to prepare for future actions or business decisions

[18:30] Focusing on a people-centric culture to avoid conflicting values

[21:16] Real-life examples of implementing sustainable practices for continuous improvement

[24:31] The maturity model to understand your current condition and ideal state

15 Nov 20234 | Leading for Impact: The Power of Being Over Doing00:28:53

How can simple phrase can change your perspective on you as a person and as a leader?


“Don’t focus on how to DO, but rather on how to BE.”   


In this episode, I explore this meaningful and powerful quote and the impact it has had on me. It reaffirmed what I know to be true about the essence of leadership and making impact personally and professionally.


And it highlights what we often get wrong in our approach to leading organizational cultural transformation and how we try to get results. We focus more on the DOING than the BEING. 



In this episode of Chain of Learning you will learn:

  • The story behind this quote
  • How to significantly shift your – your team’s – productivity and happiness by “being” rather than just “doing”.
  • How completing an initiative and applying the technical side of problem-solving isn’t always the desired outcome
  • Why it is so hard for us to focus on being rather than doing
  • Three tips I have for you to stay more focused on BEING


Tune in now to this episode of Chain of Learning podcast. It’ll help you identify your priorities and find new ways to lead your team from a renewed perspective. Learn how to be and the results will follow.  


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  • My Book: Learning to Lead, Leading to Learn: https://kbjanderson.com/learning-to-lead/ 
  • Japan Study Trip: https://kbjanderson.com/japantrip/  
  • Visit the episode webpage to see my drawing: http://chainoflearning.com/4
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  • Follow me on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kbjanderson/  


In this episode, you can expect to learn:


  • 01:10: Discussion on 'how to be' versus 'how to do'
  • 04:28: Key takeaway "Don't focus on how to do but rather on how to be."
  • 07:05: Case study - Operational Excellence Practitioners
  • 10:16: Learnings from Toyota Leader Isao Yoshino
  • 12:13: Being vs Doing in Leadership
  • 16:12: Achieving Balance between Being and Doing
  • 17:03: Drawing Exercise for Self-introspection
  • 22:42: Taking an Intention Pause
  • 24:31: Importance of Intentional Pauses
  • 26:38: Relation of Being with Organizational Learning
  • 28:04: Invitation to Learning Experience in Japan


07 Feb 202410 | Unleash Your Leadership Superpower [with Shawn Carner]00:49:20

What if you had a new superpower that would unlock your leadership potential?


One so simple yet will amplify your impact, open doors to the C-suite, and accelerate engagement across your organization so that you deliver more business results while realizing your vision for a people-focused learning culture?


This episode unveils your superhero cape so you can unleash your leadership superpowers today to lead organizational change.


Tune in to go beyond leadership theory to actual practice of how to pair your technical expertise with the power, influence, and relational skills to become a transformational change leader.


My guest, Shawn Carner, describes how he moved from an operational excellence practitioner to a senior transformation leader at a global biotechnology company – and gives you real examples of how you can too. 


You’ll Learn:


  • The importance of a leader’s purpose in Leading to Learn®: set direction, provide support, and develop yourself
  • The power of daily intention setting, reflection, and journaling to unlock your leadership superpowers
  • How to Break the Telling Habit® and the impact of asking coaching questions
  • What Shawn learned with me on the Japan Study Trip and how he’s applied lean concepts at Genentech
  • The value of intentional leadership behaviors to positively influence organizational culture


Dive into this episode now to discover the transformative superpowers that will amplify your impact and drive success in your organization!


Looking for more inspiration and actionable tips to step into your leadership impact? Be sure to subscribe and follow Chain of Learning so you never miss an episode.


About my Guest:


Shawn Carner, MBA, is the Director of Operational Excellence at Genentech, part of the Roche Group. An accomplished change agent with a proven ability to develop and implement business process transformations, lead people and deliver business results, Shawn has worked with Genentech since 2005. Shawn is also a talented visual communication expert, a certified ASQ Six Sigma Black Belt, and Master Scuba Instructor.  


Important Links:


Timestamps:


  • 2:40: Shawn's evolution from technical, tool-based operational excellence expert to transformational change leader
  • 5:56: Coaching “kata” and its challenges 
  • 9:28: The power of reflection and journaling
  • 15:26: Breaking the Telling Habit and the power of asking questions
  • 21:16: Shawn's leadership superpower
  • 22:54:The impact of Shawn's superpower on his team and organization
  • 33:30: The power of attending Katie’s Japan Study Trip and the importance of aligning lean principles with organizational culture
  • 40:33: Shifting from operational excellence doer to transformational change leader
  • 41:55: The need for leaders to show up differently to impact culture positively
  • 43:16: The importance of intentionally building capabilities, growing people, and getting them to think
02 Apr 202540| Escape the Doer Trap: 3 Simple Shifts to Instantly Get Unstuck00:37:20

Do you ever feel overwhelmed that you are responsible for doing too much?


Maybe you’re frustrated that your team relies on you for answers instead of developing their own solutions.


Or you’re disappointed that improvements fall apart as soon as you step away.


The problem: You’re likely stuck in the Doer Trap—and it’s holding you (and your team) back from the results you want. 


The good news? There’s a way out.


In this episode, I dive into three simple shifts that will instantly help you break free from the Doer Trap and into true transformational leadership.


Your power and influence doesn’t come from doing it all.


Whether you are an executive manager, internal change leader, or lean consultant, your ability to create lasting impact lies in knowing the outcomes you want and your role in getting there.


Are you ready to break free from the Doer Trap and lead with real impact? 


YOU’LL LEARN:

  • What the Doer Trap is—and why it’s so easy to fall into
  • 5 Doer Trap roles (and which ones you might be stuck in)
  • 3 simple shifts to instantly break free of the Doer Trap and make immediate impact
  • How to gain clarity on your role and step into true leadership by modeling the way
  • A simple way to frame a contracting conversation to clarify roles and expectations


IMPORTANT LINKS:


TIMSTAMPS:
03:14 What the doer trap is—and why we fall into it

04:55 Mode 1: The Hero – Not everything needs your rescue

05:48 Mode 2: The Rescuer – Why you need to let others struggle

06:52 Mode 3: The Magician – Doing it all behind the scenes
07:43 Mode 4: Pair of Hands – When you default to doing

09:53 3 simple shifts to break free from the trap
10:06 Shift 1: Clarity – Know your role and who owns what
14:14 Why so many operational leaders feel overwhelmed
15:12 The power of a purposeful pause
17:10 Shift 2: Contracting – Align on roles and expectations

23:03 How to frame a clear contracting conversation
27:58 Shift 3: Model the way and label your intent
28:19 Two ways to reflect and invite real feedback
31:49 A real-life example of how one leader found freedom
33:42 Questions to reflect if you’re falling into one of the doer traps

01 Nov 20233 | A Growth Mindset is the Foundation of a Continuous Improvement Culture [with Carol Dweck]00:35:25

What is a growth mindset? How is a growth mindset the critical foundation for an organizational culture of continuous improvement, operational excellence, and innovation? What is the connection between a growth mindset and a Lean mindset? 

Getting comfortable with the struggle inherent in learning something new is challenging. This can be especially true for more senior leaders and executives who have had success in their careers and might feel uncomfortable learning new skills while being out in front. If you are leading organizational change or used to being an expert in your field, it can be challenging for you too.

You won't want to miss this episode, where I speak with Dr. Carol Dweck about how to develop a growth mindset – personally and in your organization – and her tips to overcome a fixed mindset organizational culture of “genius” where leaders are enforcers of rules rather than enablers of improvement and innovation. 


Tune in now to discover how to cultivate personal and organizational growth, learning, and innovation.  

In this episode of Chain of Learning you will learn:

  • The difference between growth mindset and a fixed mindset
  • How a growth mindset is the foundation for continuous improvement mindset and organizational culture
  • How leaders can create an organizational environment that embraces growth, experimentation, and learning from both failures and successes 
  • How sharing your struggles and creating a supportive environment for others to share theirs will foster a culture of growth and achievement
  • The next steps you can take to encourage a growth mindset in your organization and team – and make progress towards being the person you want to become.


Hit play to unlock this powerful continuous improvement and growth mindset strategy for yourself, your team, and your organization.


About My Guest: Carol Dweck

Carol Dweck is a Professor of Psychology at Stanford University and is the bestselling author of “Mindset”, which has sold over 2 million copies globally. She is best known for her theories on the mindset, motivation, and why people succeed (or don’t) and how to foster success. 

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In this episode, you can expect to learn:

  • 00:00: Introduction 
  • 00:46: Discussion on growth mindset
  • 02:00: Reflections on the The Lean Mindset event
  • 08:52: Reflections from the GE The Lean Mindset Event
  • 10:04: Importance of continual improvement
  • 14:02: Leadership approach discussed with Larry Culp
  • 16:06: Challenges faced by leaders, overcoming the fear of imperfection
  • 19:05: Defining a growth mindset culture
  • 23:17: The role of growth mindset in progressing within an organization
  • 24:10: Challenges of implementing a growth mindset within an organization
  • 25:40: Discussing supportive company culture
  • 26:37: Discussing styles of teaching and management
  • 30:34: Discussing stepping into the unknown and taking up challenges
  • 32:38: Conclusion, reflections and invitation to listeners
19 Feb 202537| Lean Has Failed (or Has It?) [with James Womack]00:52:52

“Lean has failed.”


That’s the bold statement James Womack—founder of the Lean Enterprise Institute and MIT researcher whose team introduced the term “lean” to the world—made at a conference where we both recently spoke.


That really stuck with me.


Has lean really failed? 


If so, what can we do to course correct?


To explore this, I invited him to share his reflections and experiences over the past 40 years—where his vision for lean management has fallen short, where it’s succeeded, and what we can learn for the future.


In this episode, we take a hard look at lean’s evolution, from James’ original vision following the publication of “The Machine that Changed the World” nearly 4 decades ago to its real-world impact today.


Tune in for powerful stories and insights from one of the founders of the lean movement, a chance to rethink what’s next for lean leadership, and how you can adjust your approach towards organizational transformation.


YOU’LL LEARN:

  • The 5 critical interlocking elements of successful lean enterprise transformations — and what’s missing
  • How to build systems and practices to sustain a lean culture that truly supports frontline teams
  • Why most companies get their approach to operational excellence backwards and the challenge of getting leaders to see lean principles as the key to getting results
  • Why off-shoring and out-sourcing aren’t long-term solutions
  • The biggest challenges leaders face with lean transformation

Don't miss Part 2 of this conversation where we explore lean’s future, its relevance for today’s global lean community, and James’ advice for the next generation of leaders.


ABOUT MY GUEST:


James P. Womack, PhD, is the former research director of MIT’s International Motor Vehicle Program who led the team that coined the term “lean production” to describe the Toyota Production System. Along with Daniel Jones, he co-authored “The Machine That Changed the World”, “Lean Thinking”, and “Lean Solutions”. James is the founder of Lean Enterprise Institute where he continues to serve as a senior advisor.

IMPORTANT LINKS:

TIMESTAMPS FOR THIS EPISODE: 


02:41 James’ vision of what lean’s impact would be today

07:25 Five interlocking pieces of lean transformation and what’s been missed

07:49 Misconception of Kaizen

14:27 Challenges in sustaining lean practices

19:00 Lean leadership if implemented the right way

21:58 Impact of offshoring and outsourcing

24:29 Barriers to senior management buy-in

26:42 Challenges in the frontline healthcare system

30:27 The importance of daily management and Kaizen

37:46 Contributions to GE Appliance’s success

39:28 The meaning of constancy of purpose

41:04 Importance of knowing your north star

41:55 The creation of Hoshin planning and why it fails the first year

43:54 How we get out of the short-term approach


23 Dec 202433| Ask Me Anything: How the Right Questions Shape Your Leadership Impact00:37:34

What questions are on your mind? That’s the question I posed to you last month when I asked you to “Ask me anything!”


I received many great questions and, as promised, I’ve picked five to dive into during this episode. 

Asking the right questions is a fundamental part of leading transformational change. It’s not just about finding answers—it’s about understanding why we ask our questions and how we react when others ask us.

It’s just as important to know the reasons behind why we’re asking. What’s the intention behind the question? What are we hoping to learn or uncover? 

This is where true understanding happens—both for the person asking and the one being asked.

So the next time someone asks you a question, take a moment to ask a follow-up question. You both might be surprised with the answer!

Now, it’s time to dive into your questions!

YOU’LL LEARN:

  • How to shift from a “command and control” leadership style to a culture focused on continuous improvement
  • Common obstacles organizations face when implementing transformational change and how to overcome them
  • How you can effectively balance the need for short-term results with the pursuit of long-term strategic goals while developing people
  • Insights on transitioning from a lean leader in an organization to starting a consultancy business
  • How continuous improvement teams can amplify their impact and link leadership coaching to driving real business outcomes 

What additional questions are on your mind? Head over to ChainOfLearning.com/ASK and ask me your questions so we can continue to explore them in future episodes of Chain of Learning.


IMPORTANT LINKS:

TIMESTAMPS FOR THIS EPISODE:
 

0:39 How asking questions can spark a culture of continuous learning and improvement

2:04 The impact of leaders defaulting to immediately answering questions

4:28 QUESTION 1 : Moving from command and control to continuous improvement

09:06 QUESTION 2 overcoming obstacles to transformational change

16:14 QUESTION 3: How to balance short-term results with long-term goals while developing people

19:00 QUESTION 4: Insights on transitioning from a corporate leader to starting a consultancy business

30:35 QUESTION 5: How a continuous improvement team within an organization increase and demonstrate impact

07 Aug 202423 | Create the Winning Link in Your Strategy [with Billy Ray Taylor]00:36:58

What does “winning” mean to you as a leader? And what is your leadership role  in creating a winning strategy and organizational culture?


According to Billy Ray Taylor, CEO and President at LinkedXL and former Goodyear Tire executive, winning is not only about setting a clear strategy and aligning on the goals and metrics, but engaging your team members and defining the actions to get there.  


Billy and I recorded this episode back in 2022, just as his book “The Winning Link: A Proven Process to Define, Align, and Execute Strategy at Every Level” was about to be released – and I wanted to bring the conversation here for you to learn from Billy’s wisdom and insights about the humanity of leadership and how to win.  


In this conversation you’ll hear stories from Billy’s leadership at Goodyear, highlights from his book, the importance of DEI in building a winning culture, and Billy’s greatest challenge – and greatest learning – as a leader.


Remember, the winning link in your organization is your people, and it’s the connection of links of people together that creates and grows our Chain of Learning.


YOU’LL LEARN: 

  • How to define and align your strategy and goals to ensure organizational success by focusing on clear standards and processes.
  • The importance of not just making metrics visible – but “making people visible” –  by acknowledging their contributions is crucial for fostering a culture of psychological safety and engagement.
  • The significance of servant leadership in valuing individuals' thoughts and experiences, regardless of their position within the organization.
  • The difference between key performance actions (KPAs) and key performance indicators (KPIs) and how to leverage them to achieve significant performance improvements.
  • Actionable advice on creating common meaning through language and connecting with your team, based on real-life examples and practices.


IMPORTANT LINKS:


TIMESTAMPS:

  • [00:00] The importance of value and respect in leadership 
  • [03:07] Helpful practices that have shaped Billy’s leadership approach 
  • [06:59] The power of embracing who you are as a leader
  • [09:38] How to connect an entire organization (“LinkedXL”)
  • [11:25] What “winning” really means according to Billy
  • [13:54] The link between KPAs and KPIs
  • [18:02] The importance of DEI and inclusion
  • [23:45] The power of trust within large organizations 
  • [26:44] Billy’s learnings from his book
  • [31:22] Billy’s greatest challenge as a leader


02 Oct 202427 | 3 Practices to Become a Skillful Facilitator 00:27:30

Ever felt like your meetings or workshops aren’t moving the needle? How would you like to facilitate your next work session with confidence and ensure that your leaders are leaving motivated, aligned, and action-oriented?


Whether you're a continuous improvement practitioner, consultant, manager, or executive—facilitation is a crucial skill to master to become a transformational change leader. It’s the key to how you influence teams to shift behaviors, make impactful decisions, and drive meaningful results for the organization. 


But great facilitation doesn’t happen by accident.


In this episode, we dive in behind the scenes to uncover the three key facilitation practices you must master to become a skillful facilitator, and some mistakes that you can avoid, so that you can ensure greater impact and make it easy for the team to get the results they need.


Whether you're working with senior leaders or your own teams, becoming a skillful facilitator is key to becoming the go-to person for driving success. It’s not just a valuable skill—it’s the foundation for establishing your credibility and ensuring that your team is engaged, aligned, and empowered to make informed decisions that move the organization forward.


YOU’LL LEARN:


  • Your role as a facilitator to create the process your group needs to meet the end goal
  • How to work with your stakeholders to define the goal of the session so that you can design an agenda to get to the right outcomes 
  • The importance of creating a structured plan while maintaining flexibility to respond to what the group needs in the moment
  • How to to leverage  reflection for yourself and the group before, during and after the session to create a bigger impact
  • Mistakes to avoid to become a master facilitator


IMPORTANT LINKS:


RELATED PODCAST EPISODES:


TIMESTAMPS FOR THIS EPISODE: 


[3:40] Understand your role as a facilitator  
[6:23] The importance of knowing the goal of the session before starting, whether it’s a workshop, leadership retreat, or a team meeting

[13:06] Learn how to create structure with flexibility by making real-time decisions to adjust based on the group’s needs

[18:01] Three ways to build reflection before, during, and after each session to ensure the impact of your session

[22:09] How to reflect with key stakeholders and yourself to grow your skills as a facilitator

22 Jan 202535| Stuck in the Middle? Embrace Both/And Thinking to Drive Results [with Wendy Smith]00:37:43

What do you do when you’re stuck between two conflicting options? 

  • Deliver short-term results or take a long-term view?
  • Focus on business outcomes or people development?
  • Help by being the expert with the answer or a coach asking questions?

For most of us, these competing choices are a source of conflict. We deal with uncertainty by asserting certainty that there are two distinct options to choose between.


But what if there’s a way to embrace both?


That’s why I invited Wendy Smith – award-winning psychologist and co-author of “Both/And Thinking” – to share her insights on how to make more creative, flexible, and impactful decisions in a world of competing demands.


The most successful leaders and change agents have learned the power of navigating paradoxical tradeoffs and reframing problems to discover expansive solutions that didn’t initially seem possible. 


Tune in to learn how to shift from that “either/or” mindset and embrace a “both/and” approach to tackle tough decisions, unlock new possibilities, and lead with greater impact.


YOU’LL LEARN:

  • Can you really have it all? – The difference between an and/and vs both/and mindset
  • A three step process to overcome dilemmas to create a more sustainable outcome
  • How to reframe a problem when faced with a seemingly paradoxical choice
  • Three different patterns of risk when you’re not able to shift from the either/or to the both/and thinking
  • The benefits of being comfortable with the discomfort of learning something new

ABOUT MY GUEST:


Wendy Smith is the co-author of “Both/And Thinking: Embracing Creative Tensions to Solve Your Toughest Problems,” an award-winning psychologist and professor at the Lerner College of Business and Economics at the University of Delaware. She’s spent her career studying paradoxes in leadership and on a mission to help individuals and organizations turn problems into possibilities. Wendy's passion lies in helping leaders tackle the complex challenges of interpersonal dynamics, team performance, organizational change, and innovation to transform their organizations and the world.


IMPORTANT LINKS:

TIMESTAMPS: 


02:12 Misconception of both/and meaning

02:44 And/and vs. both/and

06:49 Balancing the roles of expert and coach 

07:03 Balancing long-term innovation with immediate business needs

08:06 3-step process of dealing with dilemma

09:50 Expanding on and/and vs both/and

12:03 How to approach paradoxical choices

15:23 3 patterns of risk when you don’t shift to both/and thinking

20:15 Getting comfortable with discomfort

22:03 Embracing both/and mindset creates growth mindset

24:36 Bringing both/and thinking to your personal life

25:50 Both/and thinking at the organizational level

27:44 Integrating technical process improvement with people development

29:35 Enabling both/and thinking at the organizational level

06 Mar 202412 | Beyond Appearances: Building Real Continuous Improvement [with Patrick Adams]00:48:20

What is the difference between authentic cultures of continuous improvement versus superficial displays? 


In this episode, Patrick Adams shares his insights on the heart of organizational culture and transformational leadership and highlights the essential elements of a real culture of continuous improvement -- so that you can ensure that you and your organization get it right.


The truth is, there are no quick fixes, “silver bullets,” or prescribed roadmaps to achieve a high-performing organization. 


Patrick shares how a long-term commitment and leadership behaviors are necessary to sustain cultures that foster growth, innovation, and people engagement.


If you want to know how to create a real culture of continuous improvement, one where leaders embody the humility to roll up their sleeves, demonstrate respect for their people and customers, and connect everyone to a long-term vision built on purpose, this episode is for you.

ABOUT MY GUEST: 


Patrick Adams the founder of Lean Solutions and is the best-selling author of "Avoiding the Continuous Appearance Trap". He's a sought-after leadership coach, consultant, and professional speaker. Patrick’s insights, drawn from extensive experience working with companies of diverse industries and sizes, are driven by a philosophy of constant learning and leadership commitment—essential for building organizational excellence.


YOU’LL LEARN:

  • The key elements of an authentic continuous improvement culture, including respect for people, stable processes, leadership behaviors, and more.
  • How quick fixes and pre-packaged roadmaps do not achieve real continuous improvement.
  • The warning signs of a "continuous appearance" culture, including KPI instability, silos, and not understanding employee and customer value. 
  • About Patrick's experience on my Japan Study Trip and why he believes it's a pivotal experience for any lean practitioner or executive seeking to build a real culture of kaizen and lasting continuous improvement in their organization.
  • How long-term success is built on creating value for customers, fostering a stable environment, and ensuring that improvement initiatives are aligned with the company's overarching vision and goals.

Tune in now for insights and strategies to empower you with knowledge of how to lead your company toward a real, lasting culture of continuous improvement.   
 


IMPORTANT LINKS: 

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TIMESTAMPS:

  • [04:18] What an authentic culture of improvement looks like
  • [13:06] How people development, critical thinking skills, and leadership behaviors lead to company-specific results
  • [14:52] Why committing to a long-term vision, not quick fixes, is key to building a continuous improvement culture
  • [20:20] What makes a culture of continuous appearance
  • [25:21] Practical tips for internal CI and lean leaders to create positive change immediately
  • [31:18] Patrick’s highlights from Katie’s May 2023 Japan Study Trip 


18 Sep 202426 | Harness the Power of Storytelling in Leadership [with Carol Cox]00:37:42

Want to inspire action in your presentations and transform your message from boring to unforgettable?


The secret: it’s not data and facts that create impact — it's your stories.


As humans, we’re wired to remember and respond to stories because they connect with our emotions and drive our decisions.


Storytelling is more than just a trending term; it’s the fundamental way to connect with your audience on a deeper level and how you actually ignite change.


In this episode, Carol Cox and I explore how to harness storytelling to not just share information, but to truly resonate. Regardless if you’re a keynote speaker presenting to a large audience or a leader speaking to your team, discover frameworks and insights on how you can turn simple anecdotes into powerful narratives that captivate, motivate, and inspire.


YOU’LL LEARN:

  • Why our brains are more tuned to stories than facts
  • The difference between just sharing information and truly motivating action
  • How to avoid the “expert trap” and connect on a human level
  • Two practical frameworks to craft compelling stories
  • Real–life examples of powerful storytelling in action


If you are a change leader looking to do more than just share information and genuinely drive action, you won’t want to miss this episode.

ABOUT MY GUEST:

Carol Cox is the founder and CEO of Speaking Your Brand®, a coaching and training company that works with purpose–driven professionals to enhance their thought leadership so they can tell the stories that need to be told and activate ideas for change.


IMPORTANT LINKS:


TIMESTAMPS: 


00:44 The importance of storytelling in making a lasting impact for both business and individual leaders
04:48 How to avoid "expert trap" where leaders rely too heavily on data and information

10:55 The difference between sharing an anecdote and creating an emotionally compelling story
12:30 How the  “Challenge, Choice, Outcome” framework can help you identify and shape your experiences into stories

12:38 IDEAL framework to enhance your storytelling and applying it effectively in various settings
30:12 Categories that can help you identify impactful stories to create your story bank

35:58 Practical tips to make your presentations more engaging and memorable

10 Jul 202421 | Leading to Learn Part 1: Build A Chain of Learning [with Isao Yoshino]00:38:31

Today's guest, Isao Yoshino, a 40-year Toyota leader, has influenced thousands of leaders worldwide and inspired my book, "Learning to Lead, Leading to Learn."


Join us as we celebrate two anniversaries: our first meeting in July 2014 and the four-year anniversary of our book. In Part 1 of our conversation, Mr. Yoshino shares his insights on leadership, learning, and the Chain of Learning® concept.


We'll discuss lessons from successes and failures, the strength of connections, and people-oriented leadership. Whether you're looking to implement these practices with your team or find inspiration for your leadership journey, this episode is full of actionable insights from one of the wisest and most caring leaders I know.

YOU’LL LEARN: 

  • The importance of seriousness in demonstrating your commitment to your people, developing a strong organizational culture, and modeling the way.
  • How establishing patience as a foundational attitude is essential to your leadership effectiveness and organizational success.
  • Strategies for fostering personal and professional growth by learning from both successes and failures.
  • Practical advice on translating Toyota’s practices into your leadership approach, emphasizing commitment, patience, and continuous learning.
  • Insights into Toyota's people-centered learning culture and how you can foster this culture in your organization.


IMPORTANT LINKS:


TIMESTAMPS:

  • [00:00] Introduction to Chain of Learning with guest Isao Yoshino
  • [05:17] What ‘Chain of Learning’ means to Mr. Yoshino 
  • [11:25] The importance of leaders asking questions 
  • [15:37] What Mr. Yoshino has learned about leadership
  • [17:51] Why ‘seriousness’ is so vital 
  • [21:46] Combining seriousness with patience 
  • [27:24] The power of working at Toyota 
  • [33:25] Mr. Yoshino’s advice to himself and you
  • [35:45] Katie’s key takeaways from the conversation


27 Dec 20237 | Intentions vs. Goals: Start with Purpose for Greater Impact00:32:24

What if HOW you go about setting your goals can change the impact you have – even more than the goals themselves? 


It’s that time of year for setting goals, to reflect on what you achieved – or didn’t achieve – in the past year and make resolutions and big goals for the coming year. 


Yet most of us have it backwards when we go about setting goals. We start with our minds before we connect with our hearts.


In this episode of Chain of Learning, you’ll discover what’s missing for most people in our goal-setting culture. If you really want to create a meaningful impact and be more likely to achieve your goals, you need to start first with your intentions.


Tune into this episode to learn how to make a shift in your thinking – and your goal-setting process – that will leave you more connected with purpose, fulfilled, and equipped to achieve your goals. You’ll understand how to connect who you want to be so that you are set up for what you want to achieve.


In this episode you’ll learn:

  • The difference between goals and intentions 
  • The importance of aligning actions in the direction of purpose 
  • About the Japanese concept of "kokorozashi" -- a leader's purpose, inner will, and enthusiasm
  • How a focus only on achieving goals is problematic
  • Why reflection is the beginning of learning and improvement
  • A reflection exercise that will set you up for greater impact
  • Why you must align with your intentions before setting goals


Hit play now – and be sure to grab a pen and paper to capture your reflections – to make plans on how you will take aligned action that will propel you towards the impact that you want in the coming year!


Important Links:


Timestamps


  • 00:31: Intention for this episode 
  • 02:55: Typical New Year goal setting
  • 03:27: Concept of intentions versus goals
  • 04:27: Importance of intention in leadership
  • 06:48: The difference and connection between goals and intentions
  • 08:24: Discovery of Intention = Heart + Direction ®
  • 09:52: Japanese concept of 'kokorozashi'
  • 12:00: The impact of focusing on goals only
  • 14:21: The power of intention in navigating setbacks
  • 15:09: The importance of connecting with your purpose
  • 17:05: Reflection process for   determining intentions and  goals
  • 19:27: Reflection exercise with questions 
  • 21:11: Steps for aligning actions with purpose
  • 23:35: Identifying and aligning actions for the next year
  • 26:06: Dealing with challenges, staying focused and moving forward
  • 27:09: Balancing professional and personal goals
  • 28:04: Legacy and the concept of intention
  • 31:04: Importance of focusing on intentions before goals
  • 31:38: Reflection on leadership with intention for the coming year and conclusion



17 Apr 202415 | 5 Steps to Revitalize Lifelong Learning00:28:27


Want to know the secret to success?


It’s about embracing lifelong learning, being willing to try new things and seek out information, setting intentions to get better, and embracing the failures that come with learning your way forward.

I believe when we stay in learning – a learning attitude, mindset, and practice – anything is possible. 


Being a “learning enthusiast” is a foundational part of who I am. It’s given me the courage to step out into the unknown and, ultimately, has catapulted my personal growth and leadership impact.  


In this week’s episode, you’ll discover the 5 core attributes I believe are the heart of becoming a Lifelong Learning Enthusiast, one of the competencies in my Change KATALYST™ model, and how you can leverage them to drive your success too.


 So, if you’re ready to revitalize your commitment to learning and enhance your personal, team, and organizational impact, you’re in the right place.

YOU’LL LEARN: 

  • The importance of embracing new challenges and knowledge with a learning mindset
  • The power of actively seeking feedback for transformative growth
  • How to be intentional with what you’re trying to improve and the necessary role of reflection in the learning process
  • A framework for becoming more adaptable, adjusting what you're doing based on new knowledge and insights 
  • How to lead by example with vulnerability and clarity in purpose to create a learning culture and grow your Chain of Learning®

IMPORTANT LINKS:


TIMESTAMPS:

  • [00:00] An introduction to being a lifelong learner
  • [1:15] Some of Katie’s personal experiences as a lifelong learner
  • [9:26] What’s at risk if you don’t make regular learning a priority 
  • [12:32] Step #1 - Actively embracing new experiences and knowledge
  • [14:50 ] Step #2 - Being receptive to and proactively seeking out feedback and suggestions
  • [17:40] Step #3 - Setting time for intentional practice and reflection
  • [19:44] Step #4 - Adapting and addressing your approach based on new knowledge and insights 
  • [21:42] Step #5 - Modeling the way as a lifelong learning enthusiast
  • [26:19] Katie’s recommendation for the best way to stay in learning

01 Nov 20231 | Welcome to Chain of Learning00:08:54

The pressure to get results and outcomes, to deliver value for customers, and to stay ahead of the competition remains paramount for organizations to survive into the future. 

But what if the way to not just survive –  but also to thrive – is not through a singular focus on the outcomes themselves, but rather the learning process to get there?

If you’re a leader who believes that people are at the center of exceptional organizational culture – and that a commitment to continuous learning is the way to create that culture – where everyone is capable, confident and empowered to solve problems and innovate at all levels – this podcast is for you!

Welcome to Chain of Learning!

Your Leadership Connection to Create a Culture of Continuous Improvement

This is your trusted resource for actionable strategies and practices to empower you to build a people-centered learning culture, get results and expand your impact, so that you AND your team, can leave a lasting legacy.


This new podcast is hosted by me, Katie Anderson. I’m an internationally recognized leadership consultant, keynote speaker, author of the award-winning book Learning to Lead, Leading to Learn – and learning enthusiast.

If you are like me, you believe in learning and continuous improvement. You know the impact this can have on people, teams, and organizations. You have a passion for solving important problems, improving processes, and achieving goals. You thrive on the challenge of figuring out how to make something better. And you love learning and improving. But more importantly, you too are inspired by creating connections between people and ideas, and what it means to help others learn, grow, and achieve more than they thought was possible. 

This is what you can expect from Chain of Learning:

  • Learn from me and other thought leaders and professionals about how to achieve your goal of creating a thriving people-centered culture of continuous improvement and achieve business results
  • Walk away with tangible practices and strategies that you can apply immediately 
  • Discover how you can become a highly influential change leader who accelerates the rate of learning and impact in your organization.


What is a “Chain of Learning”?

Chain of Learning® is one of my core principles. We are all leaders and learners – connected together by the bond between us. There is no strength in isolated links. We learn and improve better – together – and it’s why I started this podcast.

A Chain of Learning is a metaphor for what a successful people-centered learning organization is all about – the connection and support between people to learn through success and failure alike,  grow, and achieve more than they could have on their own. This is the power of our Chain of Learning. 

At my core, I believe: When we stay in learning, anything is possible.

In this introductory episode, I explore this and more. I invite you to hit play. Be sure to subscribe or follow and share it with your friends and colleagues so we can all strengthen our Chain of Learning® – together. 


Important Links:



In this episode you can expect to learn:

00:00: Introduction to this podcast Chain of Learning
02:07: Challenges in developing a people-centred learning culture
03:26: Goals for the Chain of Learning podcast
04:16: Upcoming discussions with global thought leaders
06:43: Concept behind Chain of Learning
08:17: Request to subscribe and share the podcast.


24 Jul 2024 22 | Leading to Learn Part 2: The Power of Reflection [with Isao Yoshino]00:55:39

Have you ever paused to reflect on the critical moments of your life and realized their impact on your own trajectory and others' lives?


In this special episode of Chain of Learning, I welcome back Isao Yoshino as we celebrate our decade-long partnership and the anniversary of our book "Learning to Lead, Leading to Learn." Together, we discuss the power of hansei—reflection—as the cornerstone of learning and wisdom.


We reflect on the journey of writing the book, the strength of our partnership, and the importance of asking the right questions. Mr. Yoshino shares how he continues to learn and grow from the book's lessons while uncovering the profound impact of reflection on his personal and professional development.


Join us as we explore practical ways to develop the habit of reflection, empowering you to gain new perspectives and insights.


Because remember, reflection is the crucial link in your chain of learning, guiding you toward continuous improvement and deeper wisdom.


YOU’LL LEARN: 

  • How reflection (hansei) is crucial for effective leadership and continuous improvement. Reflecting on both good and bad experiences leads to new insights and better decision-making.
  • How failures can serve as powerful learning opportunities, and the significance of fostering a culture that embraces mistakes for deeper understanding and innovation.
  • Mr. Yoshino emphasizes that true learning happens through continuous reflection. 
  • How "Learning to Lead, Leading to Learn" is not meant to be read just once; it is a resource for ongoing reflection and deep learning.
  • The importance of a personal reflection process and how it can significantly contribute to one's leadership and personal growth journey.


IMPORTANT LINKS:


TIMESTAMPS:

  • [00:00] Introduction to the power of reflection, or hansei, with guest Isao Yoshino
  • [03:12] Overview of the concept of hansei – reflection – why it’s important and how it influenced the writing of Learning to Lead, Leading to Learn
  • [09:24] The importance of having an attitude toward learning 
  • [14:06] Mr. Yoshino’s definition of powerful and hat makes Learning to Lead Leading to Learn powerful 
  • [23:46] Mr. Yoshino’s learnings based on his new perspective 
  • [28:59] The importance of asking open questions and hearing other people’s challenges and struggles 
  • [30:00] A framework to help you practice reflection
  • [34:51] How one plus one equals more than two
20 Mar 202413 | 3 Ways to Break the Telling Habit® and Create Greater Impact 00:33:28

Have you ever had a team member look at you with frustration when you share your great ideas and suggestions with them? 


Or, have you ever felt like—with all the things you need to solve and do—you don’t have time to ask questions? Like you’re stuck putting out fires rather than nurturing, growing, and developing the people you lead?


If this resonates, it’s likely you have a “telling habit.” 


But, the good news is, you can break it—or rather—you can work at creating better habits. Because you can never actually break a habit. You just replace it with stronger ones.


In this episode, you’ll learn what the “telling habit” is and what you can do to not only recognize it but how you can make three simple shifts that will dramatically increase your effectiveness.


Throughout my life and career, I’ve struggled with a “telling habit”—though at times I didn’t even realize how strong it was or the negative impact it had. 


Breaking the Telling Habit is THE most powerful shift you can make as a leader, coach, or human being.  If you’re ready to transform into a leader who can navigate the continuums between asking and telling, advocating and inquiring, being an expert and coach, this is one episode you don’t want to miss. 


YOU’LL LEARN:

  • What the telling habit is, how to identify it in yourself, and where it might be derailing you from your purpose and impact as a leader
  • Steps to ensure your enthusiasm to contribute ideas and desire to solve problems don’t impede your ultimate objectives to create capability in others and get results
  • How to find—and maintain—the ideal balance between providing solutions and facilitating others’ growth
  • The role of humble (and patient) inquiry, the power of holding space, and techniques to help you master these essential practices 
  • Three simple shifts to Break the Telling Habit® and unlock the true capabilities of your team 

IMPORTANT LINKS:

TIMESTAMPS:

  • [3:05] - What is the “telling habit”? 
  • [5:50] - The moment that changed everything for Katie 
  • [15:05] - Holding up the mirror: understanding the impact of your telling habit
  • [18:20] - Addressing fear, giving space, fostering capability 
  • [21:55] - How to navigate the leadership continuums between telling and asking and being an expert and coach
  • [26:30] - 3 simple shifts to Break the Telling Habit® 
08 Jan 202534| Why Change Initiatives Fail (And What You Can Do) [with Michael Bungay Stanier]00:37:36

Why do 70-90% of change initiatives fail?


That’s a staggering statistic. 


In many cases, new leadership comes in, economic pressures rise, or the next "flavor of the month" initiative takes over. 


What’s happening and what can you do to counteract this trend?


And if you are a change leader, lean practitioner, or continuous improvement coach, how do you avoid this becoming a career limiting move?


To help us answer this, I invited Michael Bungay Stanier, leadership expert and bestselling author of six books, including The Coaching Habit and How to Work with (Almost) Anyone, to share his insights on leading personal and organizational change. 

Success in leading change comes not only from making structural shifts, but also from fostering curiosity and building strong human relationships.

It’s time to shift the failure rate to a success rate for your vision. 


Focus your energy on amplifying your influence and getting the buy-in needed from key people to create meaningful transformation.


YOU’LL LEARN:

  •  How to reverse the trend of failed change initiatives
  • What to do when others don’t align with your vision for change
  • How to create agency in the people you want to influence
  • Tips on how to stay curious longer to make a strong impact
  • The importance of linking process improvement and people for lasting change

ABOUT MY GUEST:

Michael Bungay Stanier is at the forefront of shaping how organizations and leaders around the world succeed through focusing on curiosity and human relationships. He’s the author of six books, which between them have sold more than a million copies, and is best known for The Coaching Habit, the best-selling coaching book of this century.

IMPORTANT LINKS:

TIMESTAMPS FOR THIS EPISODE: 

01:04 Reasons why change initiatives fail
04:56 Two foundational challenges for leading change

07:38 The link between process improvement and integrating the people component

13:23 Two strategies to stay curious longer and create lasting impact

16:26 Tips to reverse the trend of failed change initiatives 

20:20 Steps to embrace your influence and create the impact you want when leading change 

22:31 Defining A and B list relationships

24:04 Improving the quality of working relationships

24:45 How to build BPR (best possible relationships) and keystone conversations to discuss how to best work together before diving into the work

26:13 Addressing challenging conversations to clarify roles and expectations upfront

29:55 One way to increase influence and build human connection for impactful conversations

31:11 Michael’s new project in launching a new podcast

30 Oct 202429 | Accelerate Decision-Making: Innovate through the Unknown [with Atif Rafiq]00:38:10

Do you ever feel like you're stuck between chaos and bureaucracy, unable to break free from the status quo?


You are probably facing a common challenge that other leaders and change practitioners experience: how to navigate uncertainty while trying to drive innovation and agility in your organization.


In this episode, Atif Rafiq, seasoned C-suite executive and Wall Street Journal bestselling author of “Decision Sprint” shares what he’s learned about leading through ambiguity to drive digital and cultural transformations at global companies like Amazon, McDonald’s, and MGM Resorts.


Atif breaks down the Decision Sprint framework to help you bring clarity into the unknown by moving problem-solving upstream, enabling you and your teams to make faster, smarter decisions that drive meaningful change and innovation.


Uncertainty IS what most organizations are facing today. Relying on outdated leadership models and approaches to problem-solving keeps you trapped facing the same issues year after year without real progress. 


Tune into this episode and gain insights how you can break free from this cycle and embrace new approaches to navigate ambiguity and empower you to innovate and lead by making decisions faster, smarter, and better.


YOU’LL LEARN:

  • The difference between boring problems vs. creative problems and how to bring authentic interest to solving the “boring problems” in your organization
  • The risk in relying solely on “known” solutions instead of exploring innovative ways to solve problems
  • Why organizations need to start thinking more upstream rather than focusing on what’s in front of them
  • What the Decision Sprint Model is and how you can use it to get ahead of problems and move problem-solving upstream
  • The difference between bureaucracy and chaos and how to avoid being stuck between the two

Enter for chance to win a signed copy of  "Decision Sprint".  Register by November 8th:  ChainOfLearning.com/29 or https://kbjanderson.com/giveaways/decision-sprint/

ABOUT MY GUEST:

Atif Rafiq has reshaped industries and generated billions in revenue for some of the world's leading companies including McDonald’s, Volvo, MGM Resorts, Amazon, Yahoo!, and AOL. He's the CEO of Ritual and the Wall Street bestselling author of "Decision Sprint: The new way to Innovate into the Unknown and move from Strategy into Action."

IMPORTANT LINKS:

TIMESTAMPS FOR THIS EPISODE: 


[2:24] Atif’s massive career shift and the challenge of changing the culture of a large established organization
[5:51] The risk of staying in a safe zone rather than navigating through ambiguity

[7:52] Boring problems versus creative problems and an example of the importance of taking interest in a “boring” problem
[14:14] The Decision Sprint Model and how it helps move thinking and problem solving upstream
[16:21] The role of experimentation in problem solving and the benefits of collaboration to gain insights
[20:10] Concept of alignment and how it connects exploration and decision making
[25:57] Difference between bureaucracy and chaos
[29:11] Upstream and downstream work and creating different systems for managing both 


05 Mar 202538| What’s the Future of Lean? [with James Womack]00:30:44

What have we really learned after four decades of lean? 


Is lean thinking still relevant today?

And importantly — what needs to change to ensure its future success?


In the previous episode, I sat down with James Womack, founder of the Lean Enterprise Institute, to look back on 40 years of lean thinking and management since the publication of The Machine That Changed the World. 

In this episode, we look ahead to the future of lean and dig into big questions, including those submitted by listeners:

  • Is there a better term than “lean”? 
  • What would Jim do differently if he could reintroduce lean to the world?
  • How do AI and new technologies fit with the application of lean principles?
  • What’s Jim’s greatest surprise over the past 45 years?

Jim doesn’t hold back in this discussion  — and provides his advice as he passes the baton to the next generation of lean leaders. 


YOU’LL LEARN:

  • Why lean principles still apply even as technology evolves and takes over tasks once done by people
  • What’s stopping organizations from fully embracing lean principles and practices
  • Why lean must be leader-led—not outsourced to consultants or internal operational excellence teams 
  • How developing people’s capabilities for problem-solving at all levels is critical to success
  • The true role and purpose of management

If you are passionate about the potential of lean’s impact now and in the future, this is an episode you won’t want to miss. 


ABOUT MY GUEST:


James P. Womack, PhD, is the former research director of MIT’s International Motor Vehicle Program who led the team that coined the term “lean production” to describe the Toyota Production System. Along with Daniel Jones, he co-authored “The Machine That Changed the World”, “Lean Thinking”, and “Lean Solutions”. Jim is the founder of Lean Enterprise Institute where he continues to serve as a senior advisor. 


IMPORTANT LINKS:


TIMESTAMPS FOR THIS EPISODE:


01:48 Two things Jim would do differently in introducing lean 

03:92 Why consultant-driven Kaizen falls short

05:29 The origin of the word “lean”

08:29 The alternative label instead of the term "lean"
10:26 How lean intersects with emerging and established technologies
14:43 Analyzing AI’s effectiveness through the value stream
16:02 Jim’s greatest surprise of the 40 + years of lean

19:10 Changes at Toyota’s Operations Management Development Division
22:27 Why problem-solving skills matter at every level
23:34 Jim’s parting advice for the next generation of lean leaders

01 Nov 20232 | Leading with the Heart to Create a Culture of Continuous Learning [with Jamie Parker]00:23:29

What does it really take to create a thriving organization  – one that is not just focused on delivering results, but doing so by engaging people’s minds AND hearts to collaborate, innovate, and solve problems as the way to get to those results?


If you’re trying to create a culture of operational excellence and continuous improvement, what’s love got to do with it?


As Jamie Parker and I explore on this episode of Chain of Learning  – a lot! Love, empathy, and human connection is our focus – and you just might walk away singing a little Tina Turner too.


Learn how you can leverage human connection, empathy, and – yes – love – to more effectively lead, coach, and create a high performing organization.


You won't want to miss an episode to discover the impact fostering a growth mindset and developing human connection has on delivering the results you need.



What you can expect to take away from this episode:

  • The value of sharing struggles and challenges to foster a culture of learning
  • Our key takeaways from GE’s The Lean Mindset event, including hearing from leaders like GE CEO Larry Culp, PG&E CEO Patti Poppe, Ford CEO Jim Farley, Chef Wolfgang Puck, basketball superstar Giannis Antetokounmpo, Professor Carol Dweck, and many more
  • How leading from the heart, with love and empathy, makes us more effective leaders
  • How to more effectively listen and Break the Telling Habit®
  • That a focus on people is the way to achieve results.

Tune in now to discover how you can bring more love, empathy, and human connection into your leadership approach to engage your people, get better results, and build a culture of continuous learning.


About My Guest: Jamie Parker

Jamie Parker is the trusted partner for operational leaders and manufacturing executives seeking to create a high-performance culture and transformational growth, and has been a friend of mine since we met a half-decade ago. 


This conversation is the second half of a two-part conversation that she and I had about GE’s recent event, The Lean Mindset: The Pursuit of Progress. You can catch the first part on Jamie’s podcast “Lean Leadership for Ops Managers”.

Jamie’s Website: Process + Results: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamievparker/
Connect with Jamie on Process + Results: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamievparker/
Follow Jamie on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamievparker/ 

Important Links:

  • Full Episode Show Notes: http://chainoflearning.com/2
  • Listen to the first part of our discussion on Lead Leadership for Ops Managers podcast episode 125: Developing a Growth Mindset as a Leader with Katie Anderson: https://processplusresults.com/podcast/developing-a-growth-mindset-as-a-leader-125/   
  • Follow me on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kbjanderson/
  • Read my book: Learning to Lead, Leading to Learn: https://kbjanderson.com/learning-to-lead/  


In this episode, you can expect to learn

  • 00:00: Introduction and overview of the podcast
  • 01:35: Introduction of Jamie Parker
  • 01:52: Discussion about GE Lean Mindset event
  • 04:23: Tips on fostering growth and continuous improvement mindset
  • 08:52: Leading with love and empathy
  • 11:03: Challenge for the listeners
  • 14:05: Leading with intention
  • 18:05: The role of emotion and love in the workplace
  • 20:29: Reflection on the conversation and event
  • 20:59: Launch of the Chain of Learning Podcast
  • 21:41: Introduction to Jamie's podcasts and the importance of subscribing
  • 22:02: Post-event discussion with Mark Graben and Jim Womack
  • 22:41: Reflecting on empathy and human connection in leadership
  • 22:57: Subscribe to Chain of Learning podcast
  • 23:09: Preview of episode three with Professor Carol Dweck


26 Jun 202420 | How to Coach Executives and Influence Change [with Brad Toussaint]00:43:42

Have you ever received blank stares from leaders when you’ve advocated that they adopt an improvement method or tool you know will help them? 


Perhaps the problem is not your idea but rather that you aren’t communicating in a way that connects these concepts with the business outcomes they need or in language that they understand.


One hurdle that can hinder your effectiveness in influencing executives is the very thing that makes you valuable in your position and as a passionate continuous improvement leader  –  your technical expertise and problem-solving ability.


That’s why, in this episode, Brad Toussaint and I explore the importance of communicating in ways that resonate with senior leaders about the outcomes and business results they need. We then discussed how to coach leaders to develop the behaviors, practices, and systems that will lead to those results.   


We also discuss the critical shift you need to make from being the doer of improvements to becoming a coach to executives to enable them to be serious about what it takes to lead change and their essential role in setting direction and creating the conditions for people to be successful.   


Being an effective change leader and coach isn’t just about having technical know-how—it’s about explaining all the methods, tools, and behaviors in a way that business leaders and executives can understand and then apply.


YOU’LL LEARN: 

  • How transitioning from a 'doer' of improvements to a coach and enabler of managers and executives can drive sustainable change
  • Different strategies for simplifying complex principles, making them accessible and actionable for leaders
  • Three important things to include when communicating to leaders: the reason for change, expected results, and methods 
  • The importance of observation and reflection in driving learning forward and the challenge of integrating them into practice
  • How to help leaders demonstrate they are serious about leading change 

Tune in now to learn more about leadership, change management, and the importance of speaking in a language that resonates to align, influence, and coach leaders – so that you can propel sustainable change and get needed results. 


IMPORTANT LINKS:

TIMESTAMPS:

  • [00:00] How to improve as a change leader
  • [03:38] How Brad coaches executives and leads change 
  • [09:42] How to speak in a way that connects you to your leaders
  • [10:34] Using language as a force for leadership
  • [13:52] Simplifying terms and topics 
  • [23:27] Management should focus on process and people
  • [28:20] Reflection time is valuable for busy leaders
  • [33:35] Why leaders should deeply understand their role and their people
  • [39:00] Why leaders must pull, not just push change
  • [40:35] Three important characteristics you need to lead change
12 Jun 202419 | Master the Art of Persuasion to Get Buy-in [with Derek Roberts]00:48:59

Do you e𝘃𝗲𝗿 𝘄𝗼𝗻𝗱𝗲𝗿 𝘄𝗵𝘆 𝘆𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗶𝗱𝗲𝗮𝘀 𝗱𝗼𝗻’𝘁 𝗴𝗲𝘁 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗯𝘂𝘆-𝗶𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝘆 𝗱𝗲𝘀𝗲𝗿𝘃𝗲 — 𝗲𝘀𝗽𝗲𝗰𝗶𝗮𝗹𝗹𝘆 𝘄𝗵𝗲𝗻 𝘆𝗼𝘂 𝗸𝗻𝗼𝘄 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝘆 𝗵𝗮𝘃𝗲 𝗯𝗲𝗻𝗲𝗳𝗶𝘁? Or have you ever struggled with getting your senior team on board with your vision for change, getting support for a new initiative, or getting leaders to sign on to your services as a coach or consultant?


Good news — mastering the skills of persuasion and influence by leading with curiosity and human connection is the way to get to "yes".

Whether it is a #lean or #agile transformation, #continuousimprovement project, #operationalexcellence program, or selling a product or service, your success hinges on your ability to connect with people and understand how to bring them along with you.


𝙏𝙝𝙚 𝙧𝙚𝙖𝙡𝙞𝙩𝙮 𝙞𝙨: 𝙣𝙤 𝙢𝙖𝙩𝙩𝙚𝙧 𝙮𝙤𝙪𝙧 𝙧𝙤𝙡𝙚, 𝙮𝙤𝙪 𝙖𝙧𝙚 𝙞𝙣 “𝙨𝙖𝙡𝙚𝙨” 𝙞𝙛 𝙮𝙤𝙪 𝙖𝙧𝙚 𝙬𝙤𝙧𝙠𝙞𝙣𝙜 𝙬𝙞𝙩𝙝 𝙤𝙩𝙝𝙚𝙧 𝙝𝙪𝙢𝙖𝙣𝙨 𝙖𝙣𝙙 𝙡𝙚𝙖𝙙𝙞𝙣𝙜 𝙘𝙝𝙖𝙣𝙜𝙚!

In this episode, Derek Roberts and I explore the art and science of persuasion of how to get to "yes" and authentic buy-in in the context of leadership. 

Mastering the power of persuasion — of selling people on your idea, the change initiative you are leading, or your services —  to help others adopt new ways of thinking and working is essential to your success, career growth, and impact.


Derek's expertise highlights how to navigate these interactions effectively, ensuring you're heard, understood, and able to inspire action.

We discuss concepts in his new book, “Listen to Sell: How Your Mindset, Skillset, and Human Connections Unlock Sales Performance,” and the essential skills of selling ideas and gaining buy-in, which are crucial for any executive or continuous improvement leader.


If you want to become a more influential change leader who identifies and bridges gaps through strategic communication, this episode is for you.

YOU’LL LEARN: 

  • How asking compelling questions and listening helps you influence decisions and lead change effectively
  • Strategies for coaching executives to engage actively in change initiatives, highlighting the difference between persuasion and manipulation
  • The importance of preparation in getting buy-in includes understanding your audience, conducting thorough research, and developing situational awareness 
  • Techniques to adapt your communication style to match different behavioral types — talkers, controllers, doers, and supporters — to enhance your effectiveness in selling ideas and facilitating organizational change
  • A framework that will help you ensure personal and professional alignment with your purpose, abilities, values, commitments, and beliefs 


Tune in now to enhance your leadership and get buy-in by mastering the power of persuasion through listening.


IMPORTANT LINKS:


TIMESTAMPS:

  • [00:00] An introduction to Derek Roberts 
  • [04:09] Sharing a vision and getting buy-in
  • [08:40]Discussion about Derek's book and the training programs he offers through Integrity Solutions
  • [11:18] The distinction between asking logical vs. emotional questions
  • [17:19] The tension between being persuasive and avoiding manipulation
  • [20:12] The power of truly listening
  • [23:01] Different behavioral styles and their influence on the buying experience
  • [32:15] The five areas of the congruence model relevant to sales and leadership roles
  • [37:50] Derek’s journey in being more engaged and curious 
  • [42:41] The impact of concentrating your energy on preparation 
05 Feb 202536| What's Your Purpose? Weaving Warp and Weft with Intention00:22:06

How often do you pause to get a clearer view of your purpose and learn how your life experiences influence your leadership impact?


Whether it’s in the moment to reflect on a recent situation or zooming out at a major milestone to see the bigger picture, reflection can be incredibly powerful.


I’m hitting pause myself this week as I turn the big 5-0! I share two concepts that have helped me understand what it means to live a life of intention and purpose.


First, the metaphor of warp and weft—a powerful way to understand the interconnection of the known and discovered elements of your life and see the patterns that emerge in your life’s fabric.


Second, the deeper meaning of my guiding word—Intention. I explore how I’ve come to see that Intention = Heart + Direction® and the energetic vitality that uncovering your deeper purpose can have in both your personal life and leadership.


If you are looking for ways to understand your purpose, reflect, to make more intentional choices, this episode is for you.


Let’s explore how you too can lead with intention and can weave purpose into everything you do.


YOU’LL LEARN:

  • The importance of reflection to learn and adjust and to understand your purpose
  • How the weaving metaphor of warp and weft enhances self-discovery
  • Why Intention = Heart + Direction® and how to set powerful intentions to align your daily actions with your heart
  • The Japanese word Kokorozashi (志) and how its deep meaning can be applied to leadership impact


IMPORTANT LINKS:


TIMESTAMPS FOR THIS EPISODE: 

00:40 Reflecting and celebrating turning 50
02:50 The history of the warp and weft metaphor

05:32 The difference between the warp and weft threads, the known and the discovered
06:27 Questions to ask yourself to apply the warp and weft metaphor in your life
09:32 The importance of “zooming out” to see to examine your own fabric of life
11:01 Questions to ask yourself to reflect on your your past life experiences
11:53 The relationship between the warp and weft metaphor with setting intention
12:24 Discovering the richer meaning of Intention = Heart + Direction®
13:36 The meaning of the two Japanese kanji symbols for intention
14:58 How to apply the concept of Kokorozashi to find your leadership purpose
16:54 Questions to ask yourself to embody your Kokorozashi to make a bigger impact
17:21 The importance of reflection at the micro level
18:35 Leveraging Kokorozashi to help take actions that are aligned with your purpose

10 Jan 20248 | Wiring the Winning Organization [with Gene Kim and Steven Spear]00:52:46


Have you ever wondered why some organizations consistently outperform others? 

And why, even when using the same tools and methodologies, some companies are able to leverage them to achieve success whereas at others they just become the flavor of the month?

If you are curious about the answers, you won't want to miss this episode with Steve Spear and Gene Kim where we unpack what makes companies “great” and explore key concepts in their new book, “Wiring the Winning Organization: Liberating our Collective Greatness through Slowification, Simplification, and Amplification”. 

Together, we peel back the layers of organizational innovation and problem-solving to focus on the critical – and often missing elements – for high performance.

Tune in to discover the role that management systems and leadership play in shaping an organization's success, and the mechanisms that enable innovation, problem-solving, and collaboration across large, complex organizations.


It makes no difference what you call it  – lean, agile, DevOps –  wiring your organization to win always comes back to the principles of good leadership.


If you are a leader, an operational excellence practitioner, or simply someone aspiring to create and thrive in a winning organization, this is an episode you can't afford to miss.


In this episode you’ll learn:

  • What defines a winning organization and separates great organizations from “not great” ones
  • How to navigate from the “danger zone” to the “winning zone” 
  • The three layers of organizational problem-solving and continuous improvement 
  • The critical role of leadership and management systems in creating conditions for success
  • The sociotechnical mechanisms of winning organizations: slowification, simplification, and amplification
  • Three questions leaders should ask daily to enable a profound organizational transformation
  • Leadership behavior shifts to be more effective in wiring your organization – and team –  to win


Hit play now to discover how you can build a high-performing organization and wire your organization for greatness.



About my guests:



Steve Spear is a senior lecturer at the MIT Sloan School of Management and is a renowned thought leader in the field of organizational excellence and high-performance organizations. 


Gene Kim is a Wall Street Journal bestselling author and former CTO of TripWire, specializing in improving software development and IT management for high-performing technology organizations.

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Timestamps

 


  • 01:30 Introduction of Steve Spear and Gene Kim
  • 03:41 Definition of a winning organization
  • 04:02 Understanding what high performance is
  • 06:10 Disparities in organizational performance and the role of management systems
  • 07:53 Common mechanisms of performance 
  • 09:55 The three layers
  • 10:06 Social circuitry
  • 11:13 Capability and competency
  • 13:50  The socio part of the sociotechnical system
  • 14:05 Mr. Yoshino's paint mistake story
  • 15:49 Paul O'Neill's three critical questions for leaders
  • 18:50 The role of leaders in creating conditions that enable individuals to succeed
  • 19:07 How to move from the danger zone to the winning zone
  • 19:17 Slowification, simplification, and amplification
  • 21:29  Culture of learning and improvement through social circuitry
  • 25:30 How slowfication helps winning organizations
  • 30:24 The performance paradox and learning zones
  • 31:17 The importance of simulating disasters 
  • 33:03 Misuse of terminology and principles i.e., “lean”
  • 35:12 Interrelationship between management practices
  • 37:18 Lessons learned from the writing and collaboration process
  • 43:09 Steve and Gene’s behaviors to be more effective in wiring winning organizations
  • 47:17 Breaking the telling habit



15 May 202417 | Leading Change from the Middle [with Pennie Saum]00:45:17

Does successful change always have to start from the top? 


How can you stop pushing change on your leaders and instead create pull from them for the organizational culture you envision?


If you're leading continuous improvement internally, these questions are crucial because they address the challenge of how to cultivate a workforce of capable, engaged problem-solvers across all levels.


That’s why, in this episode, I welcome Pennie Saum, a Process Improvement Program Manager at the Port of Seattle, to discuss how to lead organizational transformation from the middle by engaging people's minds and hearts and bringing them along on the journey. 


You’ll hear Pennie share how the Port’s Continuous Process Improvement (CPI) program has been pivotal in creating an engine of change by developing employees across the organization. From basic foundations to a selective Lean Specialist program, leaders at all levels are being empowered to lead improvement as part of their daily work. ,


Tune in to learn more about community building, inclusion, and effectively involving people in improving processes to create a vibrant culture of continuous improvement.


YOU’LL LEARN: 

  • How successful change initiatives can, and sometimes should, be led from the middle of an organization rather than from the top down
  • How leaders and internal process improvement consultants shifting from doers to coaches allows for broader ownership of improvement initiatives across an organization
  • Why belonging and community must exist within the workplace to foster an environment that nurtures  continuous improvement and engagement
  • The benefits of immersive learning experiences, such as study trips to Japan, which provide hands-on learning, enhance team-building, and boost collaborative skills 
  • The importance of meeting people where they are at to increase engagement and ownership of process improvement and change leadership


You’ll also hear why the Port of Seattle has invested in sending cohorts of leaders on my Japan Study Trips as a key part of its strategy to create a culture of leader-led continuous improvement and why Pennie is looking forward to joining me in Japan this November.


IMPORTANT LINKS:


TIMESTAMPS:

  • [00:00] Leadership and learning unite for continuous improvement
  • [04:32] Pennie’s transition to lead lean process improvement across  different industries, from trucking to government 
  • [11:16] Methods for sharing wins and addressing frustrations
  • [16:06] The importance of adaptability and flexibility in organizational leadership
  • [23:16] Encouraging workplace learning and its personal impact
  • [27:38] Leveraging middle managers to drive change
  • [32:43] What it looks like to create a culture of bravery and transformation
21 Aug 202424 | Deming’s Journey to Profound Knowledge [with John Willis]00:52:13

If you're passionate about continuous improvement, quality, or operational excellence, chances are Dr. W. Edwards Deming has shaped your journey—even if you haven't realized it yet.


But do you know how this influence came about and the profound impact Deming’s management theories have had on shaping quality and improvement approaches such as Lean, Agile, and DevOps?


I've invited John Willis, author of "Deming's Journey to Profound Knowledge," to today’s episode to explore Deming’s learning journey to become the father of the quality movement and how he influenced the development of the Toyota Production System and Japan’s rebirth following World War II.


We discuss Deming's pioneering management teachings and how you can apply his System of Profound Knowledge to solve problems in today's complex work environments.


We also explore the four lenses of the System of Profound Knowledge—appreciation for a system, understanding variation, theory of knowledge, and psychology—and how integrating these concepts can elevate your approach to leadership and improvement.


Tune in to discover how you can apply these management theories to solve the complex problems within your organization today.

YOU’LL LEARN: 

  • The fundamental essence of leadership and how connecting people with purpose can drive organizational success.
  • The significance of Deming's System of Profound Knowledge and the integration of its four components.
  • How experiencing lean principles in action differs from theoretical knowledge and why it's critical for effective change leadership.
  • The role of psychological safety in fostering an environment where everyone's input is valued.
  • Insights on how Deming’s principles apply to contemporary challenges, such as generative AI, emphasizing the importance of operational definitions and probability in managing complex systems.


IMPORTANT LINKS:


TIMESTAMPS:

  • [00:00] An introduction to today’s guest and author of "Deming's Journey to Profound Knowledge," John Willis
  • [05:04] Dr. Deming’s concept of profound knowledge
  • [05:43] The four elements to understand complexity 
  • [12:23] How the Toyota Way pillar of Continuous Improvement = Wisdom and Kaizen 
  • [20:13] The impact of a collaborative culture 
  • [24:03] Deming’s people-centered leadership approach 
  • [28:56] John’s key takeaways a year after joining my executive Japan Study Trip leadership program
  • [41:39] John’s advice on applying Deming’s principles today and the development of GenAI
04 Sep 202425 | Get Results Through the Power of Serious Leadership [with Kecia Kelly and Amy Chaumeton]00:51:40

Do you and your leadership team feel burdened by solving all the problems that get in the way of achieving the results your organization needs?


You’re not alone. 


This is the crux of the leadership challenge: transitioning from being the primary problem-solver to a transformational leader who creates the conditions for their people to achieve results. 


This requires a shift in mindset and a shift in behavior, and leaders must be serious about both.


So, what does it take—especially as a senior leader—to truly create a culture of continuous improvement?


To explore the journey to becoming a more serious leader, one striving to create a high performing organization in today's complex work environments, I invited two senior healthcare executives to the podcast. 


Drs. Kecia Kelly, SVP & Chief Nursing Officer, and Amy Chaumeton, Associate Chief Medical Officer at Legacy Health share the changes they’re making in their leadership approach, including how they're creating alignment around mission and purpose, nurturing their teams’ problem-solving capabilities, and fostering joy and human connection in the workplace. 


(Plus, you’ll hear how my Japan Study Trip leadership program has accelerated their leadership growth through a shared learning experience and purposeful reflection, and the positive effects these shifts are having on their teams and organizational outcomes.)


Whether you're an executive, operational leader, or coach guiding leaders to success, you won’t want to miss this episode. Tune in to discover how to transform your leadership and empower your teams to create a culture of excellence.


YOU'LL LEARN:

  • What it means to be a “serious” leader
  • Why developing yourself goes beyond education and certifications to putting into practice the actions to understand and support the work of your team
  • How to overcome burnout in the workplace by creating a more joyful people-centered work environment
  • The leadership impact of unburdening yourself from solving all your organizations’ problems by developing your teams’ capabilities for getting results and sustainable improvements.
  • The value of collective reflection among senior leaders to achieve alignment and clarity in organizational goals


IMPORTANT LINKS:

TIMESTAMPS:

05:01 Challenges Amy & Kecia’s faced at Legacy Health and healthcare

08:51 Kecia & Amy’s approach to leading differently at Legacy Health 

12:54 Amy’s “aha” moment on the Japan study trip and how it’s impacted her leadership

16:04 How Kecia now supports problem-solving within her team

16:40 How to create sustained improvement

22:49 How to be a “serious leader”

26:09 The significance of alignment and having a clear mission across the organization

28:14 The importance of leading with intention and respect for people

35:09 Behavior shifts in becoming a serious leader

44:58 The value of going on the Japan Study Trip as an executive leadership cohort

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