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10 Sep 2024Books with your besties episode one - The Book That Started It All - Behind Closed Doors00:18:36

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Have you ever finished a book and needed to talk with someone about it? Hear about the book that impacted the two of us so much we decided we needed to start an online book club just to share it with others. 

TW: domestic violence, mention of animal abuse

If you or someone you know needs support for Domestic Violence please call 1-800-799-7233 or text BEGIN to 8878 or visit 

https://www.thehotline.org

BA Paris (author of Behind Closed Doors) https://www.baparis.com
https://www.baparis.com/books/behind-closed-doors

Music is Ur Karma (Instrumental Version) by Craig Reever.

The opinions expressed in this podcast are those of Emily and Ashley of The Creepy Book Club alone.

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Music is Ur Karma (Instrumental Version) by Craig Reever.

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20 Sep 2024The New House by Tess Stimson00:35:16

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Close to 30% of us have some level of psychopathic traits (according to the APA). In this story we have 3 of them. One of them is a child who is a murderer. We will chat about the book and listen to Emily share a real life True Crime story with us about Daniel Marsh.  

TW: Podcast includes brief discussions about domestic violence and animal abuse. 

If you are someone you know needs help please click here: www.thehotline.org

Erin Moriarty Article an CBS special: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/daniel-marsh-double-murder-could-new-california-law-free-a-teen-killer-convicted-as-an-adult/

https://www.harpercollins.com/products/the-new-house-tess-stimson?variant=40087076438050

https://www.tessstimson.com

https://www.apa.org



Show Notes:

0:00-2:00 Intro and TW
2:48 Ashley and her husband have a "deal" on a house
4:00 Who wants what house 
6:30 Millies obsession with breaking into homes 
9:00 How does psychopathy scoring work?
11:00 Discussion of some violence and animal abuse (TW) 
15:00 How did Felix end up chained up in the basement?
18:30 Emily's discussion of Daniel Marsh True Crime case
26:00-29:00 Discussion around kids and resilience and grit 
32:00 Safety/risk and our friend Heather
35:00 Outro - join us on patreon 


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Music is Ur Karma (Instrumental Version) by Craig Reever.

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25 Sep 2024🔒 Interview with Chris Whitaker - All The Colors Of The Dark00:38:21

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We sit down with Chris Whitaker to chat about All the Colors Of The Dark. He shares personal details about how trauma early in life helped him write this book but also meant it took years to complete. Listen to the end for what book he would recommend and where he likes to spend time when not writing. 

Order: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/761187/all-the-colors-of-the-dark-a-read-with-jenna-pick-by-chris-whitaker/

Personal Website: https://sites.prh.com/chriswhitaker

Article about the TV adaptation: https://deadline.com/2024/06/ucp-to-adapt-chris-whitakers-new-novel-all-the-colors-of-the-dark-into-series-1235978405/

TW: Discussions of childhood abuse, violence, some explicit material

Brief Show Notes: 
0-1:00 Intro 
2:30 Sliding Doors Discussion 
4:30 His discussion about following these characters for 27 years 
10:00 Discussion about Kristin Hannah 
11:30 - 17:00 TW child abuse - description of his personal life and how it impacted this book 
18:00 Alternate ending options 
20:00 TW Discussion of abortions and patient/doctor relationships 
25:00 Discussion around how weeks of research would go into writing one paragraph 
31:00-36:00 Listener/member Questions 
37:00 Reader roundup 5 quick answer questions 







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Music is Ur Karma (Instrumental Version) by Craig Reever.

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27 Sep 2024"Do you want me to do your job for you?" - Chat life with us00:21:53

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Chat life with Emily and Ashley as they get into: Why the internet should go away, how they don't understand what jobs people have, what movies they will always watch if they are on and how Ashley's mom accidentally ended up with an adult film on her television. We will also let you in on what we are currently reading. 

Show notes: 
0-1:00 Intro 
2:00-4:00 What do our husbands even do? 
5:00 Why the internet should go away forever
9:00 WHAT Is Emily reading and why is it so predictable
13:00 The Perfect Couple Chat 
14:00 If this movie was on what would we watch?
19:00 "Our kids don't even know how to wait in line."
21:00 Ashley's mom accidentally ending up on an adult film channel

https://www.skylightframe.com/

https://www.amazon.com/Appetite-Innocence-Dark-Psychological-Thriller-ebook/dp/B06XFSJ196 (book Ashley just finished) 

https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-lodge-sue-watson/1144180456 (book Emily is reading) 

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Music is Ur Karma (Instrumental Version) by Craig Reever.

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04 Oct 2024What Have You Done by Shari Lapena00:22:09

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"We have had to work on teaching our kids the difference between nice and safe." On today's episode Ashley and Emily review What Have You Done by Shari Lapena. Our conversation also includes chatting about teaching kids the difference between nice and safe, the teenage brain, male predators and how we need to listen to girls and women. We have included quotes and snippets from our monthly book chat with our book of the month and patreon members. 

TW: Domestic Violence, SA

Show Notes:
0:00-2:00 Basic Intro to Shari and our thoughts 
2:30 Chatting about the ending/outcome
3:40 member review of the characters 
4:30 what book is Emily not enjoying 
4:50 member review of male characters
7:00 discussion about nice versus safe 
10:00 chat on camerons parents 
13:00 Teenagers and their brains 
16:00 lighthouse parenting 
18:00 why we need to believe girls and women 
20:00 what in the world was with the phone? 
21:00 how many stars did we give it? 

https://www.sharilapena.com/

https://www.breakthecycle.org/ Domestic violence resource (stats) 

http://thehotline.org Domestic Violence Support



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Music is Ur Karma (Instrumental Version) by Craig Reever.

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11 Oct 2024"Is my mom still paying you?" Catch up with Emily and Ashley00:37:33

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Today we chat all things Ashley and Emily. We answer your listener questions like, who is more likely to end up in jail, who handles confrontation better and how we met and fell in love.  

Show Notes:
0:00-2:00 intro and the RUG 
5:00 How we met 
8:00 Who is more organized?
12:00 How we are very different when it comes to emailing
14:00 Who is more likely to go to jail
16:00 How we handle confrontation 
20:00 Are people mad at us?
24:00 Sandwich in the bedroom 
30:00 What we are reading 
32:00 When we had our kids 
35:00 What we love most about one another 

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Music is Ur Karma (Instrumental Version) by Craig Reever.

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18 Oct 2024Hidden Pictures By Jason Rekulak00:25:19

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Do you think imaginary friends are actually ghosts?  Get into it with Ashley and Emily as they discuss one of their favorite books Hidden Pictures by Jason Rekulak. We are using his new book The Last One at The Wedding as our November book of the month.

 Donate to Hurricane Helene and Milton victims: https://www.redcross.org/donate/dr/hurricanes-milton-helene.html

Morbid Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/morbid/id1379959217

https://jasonrekulak.com/

Purchase The Last One At The Wedding by Jason Rekulak here https://www.thecreepybookclub.com/product-page/the-book

Show Notes:
0:00-1:30 Intro
2:00-4:00 Intro to the characters
4:00-7:00 Imaginary friends and ghosts 
8:30 Discussion about the pictures in the book
12:00 How this is a story of a mothers love 
14:00 Emily's Ouija Board story 
19:00 TEDDY isn't Teddy 
21:00 Why are the dads always gross
23:00 Why Emily hates the prologue 
24:00 Show notes 

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Music is Ur Karma (Instrumental Version) by Craig Reever.

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18 Oct 2024Appetite for Innocence with Lucinda Berry00:28:49

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We are thrilled to bring you our interview with Lucinda Berry about her book, which she calls her most disturbing, Appetite For Innocence. 

TW: Sexual Assault, Miscarriage/Abortion, Kidnapping/child abandonment, Murder.

https://lucindaberry.com/

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Music is Ur Karma (Instrumental Version) by Craig Reever.

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25 Oct 2024Urban Legends - spooky season special episode00:34:55

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This spooky season chat urban legends with Emily and Ashley. We asked you, the listeners, what you remember being the scariest urban legends as a kid and are here to report back on them. We also take a bit of a sidebar in the closing 10 minutes to chat conspiracy theories - are they the urban legends of today?

TW: Murder, SA, Assault, Child endangerment

0:00-2:00 Intro
1:45-5:40 Bloody Mary
5:45-9:30 The call is coming from inside the house
9:30-13:40 Candyman
13:40-16:30 Flashing headlights
16:30-21:00 Slenderman
21:00-26:40 Hiding under the car/tendon slicing
26:45-28:45 What we watched as kids and read 
28:45-38:00 Conspiracy theories, the internet and final closing content

Links to articles/research mentioned on the episode:

Janett Christman article - https://www.columbiatribune.com/story/news/politics/government/2010/03/07/who-killed-janett-christman/984978007/

Legend of Bloody Mary-
https://discover.hubpages.com/education/The-story-behind-the-legend-of-Bloody-Mary

Bloody Mary movie -
https://deadline.com/2024/07/bloody-mary-origins-movie-jeffrey-reddick-todd-slater-in-works-1235999736/

Candyman-
https://theconversation.com/candyman-the-urban-legends-behind-the-movie-and-why-we-find-them-irresistible-167126

Ruthie Mccoy article-
https://the-line-up.com/ruthie-mae-mccoy

Slenderman CBS news-
https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/the-slenderman-legend-everything-you-need-to-know/

HBO Beware The Slenderman-
https://www.hbo.com/movies/beware-the-slenderman

USA today Slenderman article-
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/04/12/slender-man-2014-stabbing-case-timeline/73299271007/




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Music is Ur Karma (Instrumental Version) by Craig Reever.

The opinions expressed in this podcast are those of Emily and Ashley of The Creepy Book Club alone.

01 Nov 2024Author Interview Anna Downes - Red River Road00:51:13

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Anna Downes absolutely goes there with us. We chat her newest book Red River Road and during our discussion we get into: domestic violence, cycles of violence, victim blaming and so much more. Anna also has breaking news she shares near the end of the interview!!!!! We cannot wait for you to hear what is in store for her.

TW: DV, SA, Kidnapping

FULL SPOILERS during this interview
 
https://anna-downes.com/

Follow Her here: https://www.instagram.com/anna_downes_writer?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsh=ZDNlZDc0MzIxNw==

Gabby Petito Case:
 https://www.cbsnews.com/news/gabby-petito-brian-laundrie-case-story-deaths/

IFS:
https://psychology.org.au/for-members/publications/inpsych/2022/winter-2022/internal-family-systems-therapy

Jess Hill:
www.jesshill.net

Show Notes:
0:00-2:00 Introduction 
2:00-7:45 The Safe Place (no spoilers), Why does Anna Write thrillers?
8:00-15:00 Why did the book open in such a chaotic way?
15:00-22:00 Why solo van travel, what was the inspiration? Gabby Petito discussion 
22:00-29:00 The real dangers women face
29:15- 36:00 Creating the male characters and the dangers of a "hot take"
38:00 - 43:00 female relationships, women empowering women, why Katie and Beth were perfect for one another 
44:00- does she seek any inspiration from her own life for her characters? 

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Music is Ur Karma (Instrumental Version) by Craig Reever.

The opinions expressed in this podcast are those of Emily and Ashley of The Creepy Book Club alone.





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Music is Ur Karma (Instrumental Version) by Craig Reever.

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08 Nov 2024The top 10 Questions we get00:36:09

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Come on a ride with us through the top 10 questions we get. Here are the questions in order, please comment below with your answers. 

(1) What's your favorite type of thriller and least favorite ? (1:00-10:00)
(2) What thriller would you recommend to someone just getting into genre (10:20-11:50)
(3) What thriller would you recommend for thriller lovers (11:50-13:30)
(4) What thriller do you recommend to people who get scared easily? (13:30-15:00)
(5) What are the scariest thrillers you have read (15:00-18:00)
(6) What non-thriller do you think everyone should read (18:20-20:20)
(7) What thrillers are unknown and underrated (20:20-22:30)
(8) Authors you'll never skip (22:30-25:00)
(9) Current Controversies (25:00-31:00)
(10) What else do you need to say about reading? (31:30-end)

Links: 
Locations to purchase books: 
https://www.thecreepybookclub.com/
https://www.amazon.com/shop/thecreepybookclub

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Music is Ur Karma (Instrumental Version) by Craig Reever.

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22 Nov 2024Parenting styles, being annoyed with ourselves00:37:23

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Today Emily and Ashley chat real life - sick kids, parenting styles, member emails and pivots we are making as we learn how to best show up for our members. 

Show notes: 
0:00-2:30 WHO has Ashley become?!
3:30-8:00 Parenting styles 
8:00-10:00 Menendez brothers 
10:00-15:00 Member email 
15:00-18:00 Books we do NOT Recommend to anxious people 
19:00-22:00 The Anxious child and how we parent
22:00-24:00 Keeping kids Safe
24:00 - 29:00 Why we are done with Read with us and what the plan is
29:00-32:00 The HOLIDAYS 
35:00-38:00 Holiday decorating and Ashley's pet peeve



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Music is Ur Karma (Instrumental Version) by Craig Reever.

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06 Dec 2024What you would do if your kiddo committed a crime? The Last One At The Wedding.00:43:07

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What do the Jon Benet Ramsey and Casey Anthony cases have to do with our book of the month The Last One at The Wedding by Jason Rekulak? Listen in and find out! 

 What would Emily or Ashley do if they knew one of their kids committed a crime?  Thank you to our listener Tracee for her wedding story! 

TW: Sodomy, child abuse, graphic violence, suicide, SA, murder
MAJOR spoilers from the book 

Show notes:
0-2:00 Chit chat and intro and our rating of the book 
2:00 Frank - our favorite character
5:00 What made Ashley gag and not Emily  (preview) 
5:30-7:30 Maggie and Aiden
8:00 Why did Tammy horrify us 
9:30 The impact money has on our decision making 
11:30 How did Jason research this amount of wealth?
13:45-20:00 Would you turn your kiddo in for a crime?
20:35 Ellie Nessler 
23:00 creepy Catherine
24:00 WHAT made Ashley gag and not Emily
28:00 Harlows Study 
31:00 WHAT story from the book is true?
31:30 Funny wedding stories 
36:00 Where do wedding traditions come from?
40:00 Weddings and vow renewals

Poll: https://blogs.chicagotribune.com/news_columnists_ezorn/2013/10/click-survey-would-you-ever-help-cover-up-your-childs-crime.html

LA times Ellie Nessler - https://www.latimes.com/local/obituaries/la-me-nesler30-2008dec30-story.html

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/police-wont-say-leads-jonbenet-case-say-s-obvious-want-solve-rcna182477

https://people.com/all-about-casey-anthony-parents-george-cindy-anthony-8422484

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-10-19/kristin-smarts-dad-says-justice-not-over-with-flores-conviction

https://www.justia.com/criminal/aggravating-mitigating-factors/

Harlows Study https://www.psychologicalscience.org/publications/observer/obsonline/harlows-classic-studies-revealed-the-importance-of-maternal-contact.html

Wedding flood https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1986-06-01-mn-8872-story.html


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Music is Ur Karma (Instrumental Version) by Craig Reever.

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20 Dec 2024Our interview with Heather Vassar00:54:10

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Meet one of our original book club members who doesn't even read the books.  Heather is one of our dear friends who lives life with authenticity, has a servant heart and just happened to play a huge role in the 2024 hit "A Bar Song" by Shaboozey. Emily and I heard it first and Heather said to us "this is going to be the song of summer."

Listen in and learn all about how she started in the music industry and why in the world she remains a part of the book club while having no interest in the books. 

https://www.heathervassar.com/
https://www.instagram.com/hvassar/
https://sheisthemusic.org/profile/hvassar/
https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/20241212-shaboozey-a-bar-song-tipsy-the-2024-drinking-song-that-became-a-giant-us-hit
https://www.casualmediapartners.com/

Show notes: 
0:00-3:00 Who is Heather? 
5:00-7:00 A taste into Heather's insane life
7:00-7:45 Heather's phone habits 
7:45-10:00 Heather's busy life and her mental health 
10:30-12:30 How Heather stays disciplined 
12:30-16:00 Religion and living authentically 
16:00-21:00 The impact of travel on our lives 
21:00- 24:00 The impact of being around other artists on living as her best self
24:00-29:00 What is Heather reading and why she is being so brave
29:00 Emily schools us on psychopaths and scary photos 
29:00-33:00 Why Heather now reads for fun
33:00-35:00 How we met Heather and why she tried not to be our friend 
35:00-39:00 Why outsourcing work is the WAY to go 
40:00 Asking heather a BIG question 
40:30 - 44:00 Heather and her integral role with " A Bar song" By Shaboozey
44:00 We are so boring
45:00-51:00 Why Ashley is so boring, Heather and Emily's take on behind the scenes stuff
51:00-53:00 Why we never listen to ourselves 
53:00 Q and A with Heather 
53:45- End - Closing Remarks 







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27 Dec 2024Our Christmas Episode - You Better Watch Out00:52:01

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FULL spoilers Join Ashley and Emily as they chat You Better Watch Out by Darren Wearmouth and James Murray. Why did they love this book? This book was Smile meets escape room meets Dexter. We also discuss female serial killers and vigilante killers. Head to our Patreon for our quick and dirty show after the show to hear about our current life updates and holiday plans.  

TW: All of them, we chat about all scary and unnecessary things. 

Show notes:
0:00-2:00 The cover of the book and what we were reading
2:00-5:00 Intro to book 
5:00-7:00 How some of the characters died
7:00-10:00 Questions we have about the books
10:30- 17:00 Female Serial Killer Dorothea Puente
17:00 - 19:30 Mass murders versus spree killers 
20:00-23:00 What would you do? Can serial killers be rehabilitated?
23:00 - 24:00 Do not get back in that cops car
24:00-34:00 Vigilante Killers 
34:00 -37:00 Gun control and mental health 
37:00-40:00 Em teaches us about jury nullification
42:00- 44:00 Prison culture and "rules"
45:00-47:00 Drunk driving 
50:00-52:00 Wrapping up the episode 



Dorothea Puente article https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/killing-her-boarders-burying-them-194503281.html

https://www.oxygen.com/murders-at-the-boarding-house

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedro_Rodrigues_Filho

WaPo poll https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/12/18/yes-many-young-adults-seem-sympathize-with-killing-health-care-ceo/

https://medium.com/bouncin-and-behavin-blogs/how-money-moves-why-billionaires-dont-help-the-economy-3de8c6ed30fb

https://www.investigationdiscovery.com/crimefeed/serial-killer/jeffrey-dahmers-murderer-explains-why-he-killed-the-milwaukee-cannibal

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jury_nullification






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03 Jan 2025The 2024 Wrap Up episode00:29:58

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Show notes would be a total spoiler! You must listen to the episode to hear our favorites (or check the transcript). You can find the books we mention here https://amzn.to/3BFC4Ox

0:00-12:00 Our favorite reads of 2024 

12:00-13:50 What are we reading now?

13:50-15:15 What are we watching?

15:15-18:30 What podcasts are we listening to?

19:00-22:00 What podcasts do we plan on listening to?

22:00-30:00 What are our 2025 goals?

https://www.texasmonthly.com/podcasts/series/the-problem-with-erik/

https://open.spotify.com/show/3UNxeZPD5fDSzm26mqTjgc

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/noble/id1757686789

https://www.netflix.com/title/81705443

https://tv.apple.com/us/show/presumed-innocent/umc.cmc.5hnqrhwtzt3esr7rb1wq2ppvn

https://www.netflix.com/title/81474158

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10 Jan 2025Saving Noah by Lucinda Berry00:52:44

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Emily and I finally decided to chat about Saving Noah. 

0:00-2:00 Intro

2:00-3:00 Emily's synopsis of the book and the intro

3:00-5:00 The moms reaction in the book to Noahs admission 

5:30-6:30 When Noah's parents tell their victims

7:00-9:00 Noah's punishment 

9:00-12:00 Is it treatable? 

12:00 -14:00 Co dependency with Noah and his mom

15:00 Programs for those who recognize their pedophilia young 

17:00-19:00 Why did Noah need to go back to school?

19:00-26:00 Emily teaches us about cases that helped create new laws like Adams law and sex offender registry. 

26:00-29:00 Tiers of sex offender

29:00- 36:00 PAS/Euthanasia

36:00-39:00 The choice Noah's mother makes to help him 

39:00 -40:00 How did Emily and I feel about the mother's choice 

41:00 There is something wrong with you 

42:00 What were we relieved about?

43:00-46:00 Personal experience with predators 

46:00 Social media and other platforms - the BARK app (see connected)

48:00 Emily says "I am dead inside from doing this."

49:00-51:00 Maybe we will leave Lucinda alone

51:00-53:00 What are we reading now 

TW: Suicide, abuse, SA, children, violence, kidnapping, rape

https://lucindaberry.com/

https://www.psych.ox.ac.uk/news/sex-offending-genes-more-important-than-family-environment

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28282050 (pastors)

https://www.bark.us

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/6470698/ (genetics)

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10785970/ (Euthanasia for mental health)

https://smart.ojp.gov/somapi/chapter-1-unique-considerations-regarding-juveniles-who-commit-sexual-offenses

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3565125/ (castration)

https://www.amazon.com/Saving-Noah-Lucinda-Berry-ebook/dp/B0752D8QQB

https://oneill.law.georgetown.edu/child-euthanasia-in-belgium/

https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/europe/belgian-paedophile-belgium-euthanasia-escape-unbearable-sexuality-a7072841.html

https://www.psychiatrictimes.com/view/first-do-no-harm

https://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/cj-jp/ad-am/bk-di.html

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17 Jan 202511ish Questions with Ashley and Emily00:36:12

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11 (ish) quick questions with Emily and Ashley including, what is something they've done together that was super risky, what type of a psychologist is Emily and how was Ashley's High School job legal?

Show notes:

0:00-2:00 Intro, announcements and reminders

2:30 What is a book we didn't finish or do not recommend.

4:00 What were our first jobs?

6:45 What shows did we binge? 

8:50 What misconceptions do people have about us?

12:30 What does your perfect reading "room" look like?

14:40 What are our pet peeves?

17:40 What is something risky we have done together?

20:00 What kind of a psychologist is Dr. Reeder?

23:00 The tik tok tics and Hysteria podcast

26:00 Placebo effect 

26:15 Jaen and Dalton study

27:45 Jury selection

30:00 Who is more willing to try new things?

30:10 What would you write a book about?

32:00 How did we name the book club?

34:00 Diabolical Lies 

Links:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25280827/

https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B0C3L653YS?ccs_id=8e7a14f9-21d9-400b-b7a7-0892798bea32

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/diabolical-lies/id1761438573 

https://moneywithkatie.com/

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/hysterical/id1753789609

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Havana_syndrome

https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/tics-and-tiktok-can-social-media-trigger-illness-202201182670

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9733629/

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22 Jan 2025🔒 Darren Wearmouth and "Murr" James Murray00:36:41

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You Better Watch Out Interview with Darren Wearmouth and "Murr." How did Sci-fi/horror author Darren Wearmouth and impractical jokers TV star James Murray become writing partners? How did they come up with those crazy murder scenes and what announcement did they make about 2026?!!!! Plug in, be ready to laugh and be ready to pop into theaters to see Don't Move this fall.

What is Jessica's Obsession? Is Eddie Redeemable?  Why is Trinity the worst?

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25 Jan 2025Lauren McCluskey and bigger questions around why women aren't listened to00:34:11

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We are thrilled to be partnering with Celisia Stanton, the host of Truer Crime, to bring you our episode which touches on Lauren McCluskey and the themes that are a part of her story: domestic violence, failures of the justice system and why women aren't listened to. 

TW: Femicide, Domestic Violence, Rape, Stalking, SA, Murder. Show notes: 

1:30-3:15 What is a domestic thriller and what are some we have read? 3:15 - 3:30 Domestic violence as a psychological thriller theme 3:45- 6:00 Why are women often portrayed as dumb? Why do women apologize and/or why are we worried about being seen as rude? 
6:00 -9 :30 The Gift of Fear book (linked in show notes) and Dr. Reeder teaches us about pre planned responses
9:30-11:30 Damsel in distress article about female protagonists, what does the movie Frozen have to do with this topic?
11:30 -14:30 Domestic Violence stats (Trigger warnings) 
14:30 - 19:00Why don't women get help and Truer Crime with Celisia Stanton - Lauren Mccluskey
19:10-20:00 state laws around DV
20:00 - 25:00 Wendy Maldonado case (linked below) 
25:00 - 26:15 How can women expect to be listened to? What are options for women to leave?
26:45-28:00 How many women are killed annually around the globe per day?28:00 - 30:00 What is happening around you? Behind closed doors. 
31:30 All men. Why women choose the bear. What does Ashley want the last thing her kids to see be if something happens to her?

Book: The Gift of Fear by Gavin de Becker - anywhere you shop for books

https://people.com/husband-wife-killed-murder-suicide-divorce-8769233

https://www.katherinemkennedywriter.com/post/the-damsel-in-distress-why-female-characters-are-still-stuck-in-a-tower

Every F-ing Day of my Life: https://tv.apple.com/us/movie/every-f---ing-day-of-my-life/umc.cmc.1aq9cocb6lbot0y8a4kkq2aa9

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/truer-crime/id1565741041

https://www.dvsn.org/january-2024-stalking-stats-tactics-impacts/

https://laurenmccluskey.org

 https://www.unodc.org/documents/data-and-analysis/statistics/crime/UN_BriefFem_251121.pdf

https://unews.utah.edu/timeline-of-events-in-lauren-mccluskey-case/

https://bylinetimes.com/2023/09/21/this-harrowing-study-reveals-why-victims-of-sexual-violence-dont-go-to-the-police/

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31 Jan 2025False Memories, Forgiveness and The Satanic Panic - Alice Sebold and Anthony Broadwater00:48:00

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You may know Alice Sebold as the author of The Lovely Bones but you may not know the story of Alice and Anthony. Anthony Broadwater was exonerated in the 1981 rape of Ms.Sebold. Listen to the Truer Crime Season 2 episode 3 for all of the details on the case. Today Emily and Ashley chat about the bigger themes of her episode...False Memories, Forgiveness and The Satanic Panic. Thank you for listening.

TW: SA, Abuse, Child Abuse, Murder

Show notes:

0:00-1:00 intro

1:00-4:00 An Overview of the case

4:30 Ronald Cotton and Jennifer Thompson case

6:30 Eye witness testimony and knowing what's going on around us

7:20 What is the weapon focus effect?

8:20 Working memory and memory in general

10:00 Elizabeth Loftus - False Memories

14:30 False Memory task Dr. Reeder does with her students

19:00 Satanic Panic

20:00 Mcmartin Preschool Trial

25:00 The book The Secret

27:20 Paul Ingram story

37:00 Making a Murderer (Netflix)

39:00 Forgiveness Study and the power of forgiveness and what is the REACH method?

45:00 Who is forgiveness for?

Loftus, Loftus, & Messo (1987) - Weapon Focus Effect https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/bf01044839

Loftus and Palmer (1974) - Automobile accident - https://psycnet.apa.org/record/1975-04498-001

Roediger & McDermott (1995) - False memory in word lists - https://psycnet.apa.org/record/1995-42833-001

Wright (1993) The New Yorker on Paul Ingram -

 https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/1993/05/17/remembering-satan-part-i

Picking Cotton book - https://www.pickingcottonbook.com/

Elizabeth Loftus Ted Talk -  https://www.ted.com/talks/elizabeth_loftus_how_reliable_is_your_memory

https://www.health.harvard.edu/mind-and-mood/the-power-of-forgiveness

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/wellness-and-prevention/forgiveness-your-health-depends-on-it

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/josiah-sutton/id1565741041?i=1000523760385

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/policing/2018/06/09/brendan-dasseys-false-confession-supreme-court-column/652915002/

https://www.instagram.com/celisiastanton/?hl=en

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14 Feb 20252025 Retreat Rundown00:40:48

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Our 2025 Retreat is over and we are here with the rundown!  If you came to retreat hopefully this will make you smile! If you couldn't make it this year hopefully you will listen in, see what it is like day to day and join us in 2026! 

Show notes:

0:00-2:00 Getting to AZ

2:00- 7:30 Wednesday: Books, Scary Nail Salon, Perimenopause brain and forgetting items

8:00-11:00 Thursday: Author arrival, Poisoned Pen, Heather's sisters

11:45-14:00 Friday - Reception

14:00 Thank you to our sponsors (see links below)

18:00 Our dinner with the authors Friday evening and What types of conventions we do NOT WANT to go to. Jeneva had us rolling 

20:00 Saturday - Panel and Podcast overview 

25:30 Behind the scenes stuff shared at the live podcast 

28:00 How we MADE a number of podcast episodes we never ever used

28:30 Ashley and Emily and email (lol)

31:00 Wine and Art Walk 

32:00 Why our "Down day" was actually spent working and the wink from my dad

34:00 Emily's trip from hell

38:00 2026 plans

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21 Feb 2025Celisia Stanton sits down with Emily and Ashley00:31:20

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Plug in and listen to our get to know you interview with the host of Truer Crime, Celisia Stanton. How did being the victim of a crime help catapult her into the podcasting space and what else does she want us to know about her (other than how much she loves her cats). We feel incredibly lucky she chose to spend nearly an hour with us. Please follow her social media accounts and be sure to rate and review Truer Crime. 

Show Notes: 

Introduction 

Who is Celisia 

2:00-7:00  A handful of FUN get to know you questions 

7:00-12:00 How she got into podcasting 

13:00 How her true crime stories are different

16:00-22:00  How she picks the stories she picks and some specifics about a handful of them

22:30 How does she take care of herself while recording 

25:00 Live Show updates?

26:00 What does she want people to know about podcasting?

29:00 Current state of affairs


https://www.instagram.com/celisiastanton/?hl=en

https://www.instagram.com/truercrimepod/?hl=en

https://truercrimepodcast.com/

https://celisiastanton.com/

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28 Feb 2025Why do women hate women?00:47:10

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Hi friends, 0:00-10:00 Have all the spoilers for the book night watching so fast forward through that if you haven't read it, minutes 10- end get into way bigger societal topics about why women aren't listened to. 

Show Notes:

0:00-4:00 Introduction to Night Watching and being scared 

4:00 https://www.instagram.com/tsierraauthor/?hl=en (diagram) 

5:00 Did the characters have names? 

6:00 Where did they hide? 

7:00 What happened to the husband?

8:00 Why don't we believe women? 

9:00 The ride Tracy took us on with doubting the main character

10:00 Multiple personalities 

11:00 Strong female characters

14:00 WHAT Was the big twist? Ashley might scream

14:00-17:00 Truer Crime episode https://truercrimepodcast.com/

18:00 Gabby Petito

19:00 Blake Lively and Amber Heard

21:00 OJ simpson 

23:00 Women who carry water for the patriarchy 

25:00 FAFO  - Government Spending 

28:00-35:00 Melissa Lucio Case 

37:00 Men who kill their families 

37:00-41:00 Why do women hate women especially Taylor Swift

42:00 Do you want to be defined by hate or love? 

42:00-45:00 The Tipping point and DEI

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/think-well/201112/why-did-or-mpd-is-bogus-diagnosis

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darlie_Routier

https://innocenceproject.org/whats-next-for-melissa-lucio-texas-woman-on-death-row/

https://www.tracysierraauthor.com/

https://www.hulu.com/movie/the-state-of-texas-vs-melissa-48e646e4-be05-4465-815a-a3eb9756c914



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07 Mar 2025Part 1 The - "Why Didn't Anyone Help Her?" Idaho episode.00:40:50

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Emily and Ashley get into the "why didn't anyone help her" event in Idaho and the bystander effect. We encourage you to listen to this episode and share it with a friend. We are better together, especially as women.

Please head to the chat and ask your questions and drop comments for a follow up episode

TW: Violence, Domestic Violence 

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Show notes: 

0:00-1:00 Intro 

1:00 Ashley’s favorite current tiktok - women empowering women 

2:00 Societal pressure for women finding a partner

4:00 Kids and phones 

4:00-6:00 WTF with Marc Maron and phones 

8:30-20:00 Let's Chat Coeur d’Alene Idaho 

20:00 Diffusion of responsibility 

23:00 Kitty Genovese murder 

26:00 Return to Idaho town hall - Do you raise your hand when no one else does? 

28:00 You can change the social norm of a situation 

29:00 Seizure disorder and script 

31:00 Fear for our own safety

32:00 Fear of being wrong 

33:00 How do we get the message to the people who actually matter?

34:00 Ashley fell into exactly what is wrong with the patriarchy 

35:00 Netflix Belle Gibson doc 

37:00 -40:00 Raising kids in community

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bystander_effect

Tik tok video: UN Unty Tan 

https://www.history.com/topics/crime/kitty-genovese

https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/The-Bystander-Effect-in-Non-Emergency-Situations%3A-Cox-Adam/2d8a412dab1aa0622b7345928687fd13a68b90a7

https://academy4sc.org/video/the-smoky-room-experiment-trust-your-instincts/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diffusion_of_responsibility

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kitty_Genovese

https://www.simplypsychology.org/kitty-genovese.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/25/us/idaho-woman-removed-town-hall.html

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14 Mar 2025Part 2- The Idaho Follow Up Episode00:34:17

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Today we drop part II of our "what happened at the Idaho town hall?" episode where we answer your questions and respond to your comments

0:00-2:00 Ashley's Idaho story

3:00-4:00 Introduction to today's episode and Emily's thoughts

4:00 What is one of Emily's biggest pet peeves

4:30 Idaho murder documentary

7:00 Fight/flight/freeze and that is "just Northern Idaho"

10:00 Hate comments

13:00 "If you just follow the rules"

14:00 A personal story from the event

17:00 The power of fear

20:00 Bystander effect

20:30 Portland True crime case

22:00 Democrats and Republicans current day

27:00 White women

28:00 Schindlers list

https://www.amazon.com/Aluminum-Alley-American-Pilots-Himalayas/dp/0811772624

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Portland_train_attack

https://www.cbsnews.com/tag/bryan-kohberger/

https://www.thecreepybookclub.com/product-page/a-killing-cold-by-kate-alice-marshall

https://apnews.com/article/idaho-protest-woman-removed-town-hall-b4348df006fe83723f95769a05007098

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21 Mar 2025A Killing Cold By Kate Alice Marshall and a discussion on the ultra wealthy00:34:05

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A full spoiler discussion on A Killing Cold By Kate Marshall and a bigger discussion on religion, the ultra wealthy and the Murdaugh family. 

TW: Abortion, suicide, murder, child abuse 

0:00-2:00 Basic review and the setting

3:00 Theo's back story and meeting Connor

4:00 The non twist twist

4:30 The abortion story  and religion

5:30-7:30 Are we christians? No love like Christian hate 

8:00 Why doesn't Ashley know how to read books?

9:00 Theo as a smart and strong female character

12:00 PTSD/Memories

17:00 A discussion on the super wealthy

20:45 - 26:00 Harris Rosen 

27:00 The crimes of each person

29:00 - end What would you do with $10,000,000

https://www.ucf.edu/pegasus/harris-rosen/

https://www.nytimes.com/article/murdaugh-murders-alex-paul.html

https://millionairesforhumanity.org/

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04 Apr 2025The Women by Kristin Hannah00:42:36

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Only weirdos like us see The Women by Kristin Hannah as a palette cleanser.

Show notes:

0:00-2:00 Intro

2:00-4:00 Intro to the characters and gender role chat

4:30 The way Frankie's dad discounted her service

5:00 Barb and Ethel and how women show up for one another

6:00-7:30 The setting, the smells

8:00 Interview with a nurse who had experience in Vietnam

9:00 Letters to the soldiers parents and how Vietnam wasn't that long ago

11:00 Types of death from war

13:00 The amount of people impacted and the timeline

14:00 What was traumatizing to Frankie?

15:00 Some of the love and romance throughout the book

18:00 Part II of the book when Frankie comes home

19:00 PTSD

22:00 Some of the male characters

24:00 Rock bottom and the creation of the farm

28:00 Frankie's relationship with her parents and her new reality

34:00 What happens when girls became pregnant?

36:00 The Werther effect

37:40 Our connections to the Vietnam War


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https://kristinhannah.com/books/the-women/

https://www.iowapbs.org/iowapathways/artifact/1540/iowa-veteran-describes-her-experiences-nurse-during-vietnam-war

https://www.vvmf.org/echoes/EP12/

https://www.va.gov/

https://www.c-span.org/program/american-history-tv/vietnam-war-nurse-virginia-lee-dornheggen-oral-history-interview/591115

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2950285324000322

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11 Apr 2025Ask Us Anything00:37:57

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The episode you asked for! Ask us anything from politics, to religion, to love languages, to books we DNF. No show notes because we want you to be surprised. 

To prepare for the next few weeks make sure to read:

Strange Sally Diamond By Liz Nugent

The Quiet Librarian by Allen Eskens

This Book Will Bury Me by Ashley Winstead 

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18 Apr 2025Strange Sally Diamond and Jaycee Lee Dugard00:39:01

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Did anyone else think about the Jaycee Dugard case while reading Strange Sally Diamond? Tune in to our most recent episode to hear our thoughts on this outstanding book and Emily's take on the similarities with the Jaycee Dugard case. Stay tuned for our interview with the author which will be shared next week. 

TW: Cremation, Corpse Abuse, Rape, Kidnapping, Domestic Violence, Basically all of them

0:00-1:00 intro

1:00-5:00 First 4 pages of the book - why did Sally try to cremate her own father

5:00 Is this a book about autism?

6:30 How autism and trauma can look similar

8:05 What can be done in isolation - Peter

11:00 - 33:00 Jaycee Dugard case

33:00 Peter Keeping the girl after his dad dies 

35:00 Building community and her adopted dad being a very complex flawed character

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teEG6-JXggY

https://www.attwoodandgarnettevents.com/blogs/news/distinguishing-trauma-from-autism

https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna43260782

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nancy-garrido-the-real-monster-in-the-jaycee-lee-dugard-kidnapping/

https://criminalminds.fandom.com/wiki/Phillip_and_Nancy_Garrido

Photos - https://www.theguardian.com/world/gallery/2009/aug/30/jaycee-lee-dugard-kidnap-usa

Parole officer - https://www.kcra.com/article/parole-agent-jaycee-lee-dugard-kidnapping-case-california-missing-girl-kcra-edwards-santos-jr/41830278

Cathy Cockrell - https://newsarchive.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2009/08/28_ucpd.shtml

Bay City News - https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/garridos-earlier-victims-outlined/1896330/







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