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Actress, director, producer and author Lake Bell joins Hannah Elliott and Matt Miller to talk about growing up the daughter of a car guy - who also happened to own Virginia International Raceway. Plus, they discuss Lake's current obsession (her name is Janet) and whether or not EVs should have a synthetic sound.

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SEMA President and CEO Mike Spagnola joins Hannah Elliott and Matt Miller to discuss the $337 billion automotive aftermarket industry and the SEMA show, the world’s largest annual gathering of small businesses that happens each year in Las Vegas. A lifelong car lover, Spagnola spends much of his time in Washington D.C. working to maintain the vehicle owner rights increasingly scrutinized at state and federal levels. Plus, Lewis Hamilton Formula One move to Ferrari, Porsche's new Taycan EV, and Matt's obsession with Cadillac's brutal Blackwing sedans.  

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Hannah and Matt discuss the latest Aston Martin, a $430,000-plus V-12 called the Vanquish, and the two Adrians who could be coming to save the established British brand. Plus, Barry Ritholtz joins to defend his decision to put an electric motor in a 1987 Porsche 911 Carrera.

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Hannah Elliott and Matt Miller discuss the all-new $4.1 million Bugatti Tourbillion hypercar, driving the 2025 BMW Z4, and the latest edition of General Motor's Hummer EV.

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Dimitris Psillakis, the president and CEO of Mercedes-Benz USA, joins the podcast to talk tariffs and the big Manhattan dealership opening this week in New York.

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Rolls-Royce chauffeur instructor Andi McCann joins Hannah and Matt to discuss his life journey from pro skier to chief driving coach and founder of the White Glove Driving Program, where he teaches everything from evasive driving tactics to developing women private drivers in Saudi Arabia.

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McLaren Racing Chief Executive Officer Zak Brown joins Hannah Elliott and Matt Miller to discuss McLaren's ascendance this season in Formula 1, why Indy Car could use some tips from Liberty Media to help it expand, and the 'toxic' atmosphere at Red Bull. Plus, Brown suggests the Monaco Grand Prix could go away and F1 would be just fine without it, and Hannah and Matt discuss the Mercedes-Benz EQE 500 electric SUV. 

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Cox Automotive's Erin Keating joins the podcast to talk tariffs. Plus, Hannah reports back on the Cadillac Celestiq and Matt rides the Buell.

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Lamborghini CEO Stephan Winkelmann joins Hannah Elliott and Matt Miller to discuss the future of the Italian automaker, especially when (and if) it comes to EVs. Plus, his keys to success navigating working with some of the industry's toughest bosses at Volkswagen and Fiat. Then, Hannah talks about the Aston Martin Vantage in Spain and Matt gets stranded - twice! - taking his motorbikes out for the first ride this season.

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Grammy-winning trumpeter Chris Botti joins Hannah and Matt to talk about his deep-dive into the world of Porsche, Ferrari, McLaren and Lamborghini - and how track driving is weirdly similar to learning to play the trumpet. Plus, Hannah reports back on the Ferrari 12Cilindri and Christie's auction house buys Gooding & Co.  

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Hannah and Matt dive into Bentley's new Continental GT Speed V-8 hybrid, plus Matt's weekend with the Cadillac CT5 sedan and a deep-dive on the Aston Martin Vantage extras list.  

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Cannonball run record-holder, endurance driver, author and TV host Alex Roy joins the podcast to share the secrets of how he set a world record when he drove from New York to Los Angeles in just over 31 hours. Plus, his thoughts on the EV future: Lucid, Hyundai, and whether a Porsche Taycan could ever hope to beat a Tesla on cross-country endurance run of its own.  

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Hannah and Matt welcome Philip Richter, the president and co-founder of New York-based Hollow Brook Wealth Management, board member of the Revs Institute and founder of the Turtle Invitational car show in Bedford, NY. Plus, Hannah talks about the Las Vegas Concours.

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Hannah and Matt discuss the new debuts and old cars of Monterey Car Week, plus what it's like driving the Lamborghini Revuelto hybrid sports car along California's open highways. 

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Ferrari CEO Benedetto Vigna joins the podcast to talk about the future of the 85-year-old brand. Plus, the best cars of 2024 and Matt talks Harley-Davidson.

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Hannah and Matt discuss the new Ferrari F80 supercar (Matt is not okay with a V-6 hybrid), Bentley's Continental GT hybrid, the Indian Scout motorcycle and Rivian's dangerous factory woes. Plus a junk yard sale in Los Angeles.  

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Hannah and Matt welcome Ford beat reporter Keith Naughton to talk about Ford recalibrating its electrification strategy yet again, canceling plans for a fully electric sport utility vehicle in a shift that may cost the carmaker around $1.9 billion. Plus, Hannah talks about driving the 1932 Maybach Zeppelin and why Ferraris aren't doing as well at auction as they have in the past. 

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This week Hannah and Matt talk about the cars and trucks they are most excited to drive next year. Corvette, Ram, Porsche and Polestar, and a few others, all make an appearance. Plus, Bloomberg Intelligence Automotive Industry Analyst Kevin Tynan joins to discuss Ford’s recent title of 42 years selling the most popular vehicle in America. Matt thinks General Motors might beg to differ…. 

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Lamborghini Chairman and CEO Stephan Winkelmann joins the podcast, plus Hannah's exclusive ride in the new CLA sedan with Mercedes-Benz Group's Ola Kallenius.

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Racing champion Dario Franchitti joins Hannah Elliott and Matt Miller to discuss his work on the $3 million T.50. Plus, Lamborghini earnings defy the industry slump, and Fiat's 500e is a winner.  

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On this episode,  Hannah and Matt give us their winners and losers of 2023. Porsche, Lucid, Rolls-Royce and even Kia make an appearance. Plus, Matt gets hot about hybrids and Hannah defends the Ferrari Purosangue SUV.     

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Car broker to the world's billionaires Steve Serio joins Hannah Elliott and Matt Miller for a wide-ranging discussion of all things Aston Martin, Bentley, BMW, Porsche and Mercedes - and which five classic cars he'd trust alone on a desert island. Plus, there's talk of a Tesla Cyberbeast on the prowl, an alien McLaren, a new auction house, and BMW's latest electric concept. 

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Hannah and Matt discuss dueling new Corvettes - the Z06 and the e-Ray hybrid. Matt thinks they're supercars; Hannah disagrees. Plus, Volkswagen AG invests $5 billion in Rivian and Matt gets stranded - with a baby - in the Hummer EV. 

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On this episode, Barry Ritholtz joins Hannah and Matt for a conversation about Toyota’s Camry hybrid news, and whether it spells the end of EVs. Then, we discuss how macro changes in the economy and the end of the YOLO culture may be cooling appetites for things like $60 million Ferraris and expensive hospitality packages at the upcoming Formula 1 Las Vegas Grand Prix. Plus, a discussion about Audi’s new electric SUV, the $90,000 SQ8 eTron, and Matt’s current fascination with Kia.     

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Hannah and Matt talk about the surprisingly good attributes of the Infiniti QX80 and what makes a bad air freshener. Plus, they respond to listener feedback about the best-sounding engines and why the Subaru WRX may be more fun to drive than the Cadillac Cadillac CT5 and Jaguar F-Type (hint, it's a manual).

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This week, Hannah and Matt discuss the lack of demand for electric vehicles in the United States - is this the end of EVs after all? They also talk about how modern classics from Ferrari, Porsche and even Ford might gain some value in the next year. Plus, Matt is reminded of Tawny Kitaen in that cool Whitesnake video with the Jaguars, and why Hannah gets itchy if she goes more than a week without driving the old Rolls-Royce.     

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Rolls-Royce CEO Chris Brownridge joins Hannah and Matt to discuss his new vision for the century-old brand, which includes both V-12, electric-powered cars, and seven-figure bespoke creations. Plus, how rising demand for personalized vehicles at Roll-Royce is helping the British luxury-car maker counter weakening sales in China. And a look into the new Rolls-Royce very private office in New York City.  

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McKeel Hagerty, the Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the Board of Hagerty, joins Hannah and Matt to talk about the best cars to buy for 2025 and the state of the classic car market. Plus, the Dodge Charger EV and Matt's drive in a Ferrari F355.

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Bloomberg Chief Tech Correspondent Mark Gurman joins the show to talk about how Apple sank about $1 Billion a year into a car it never built - and why abandoning the plans to build the car was a massive mistake. Plus, the Porsche Macan EV and Nissan Frontier truck.

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In this episode, Hannah Elliott and Matt Miller talk about driving the Tesla Cybertruck in Los Angeles, plus Matt's recent week with the Kia EV9 SUV - can it stand up to the big SUVs from Land Rover, BMW and Rivian? Then, it's a quick turn at the track with the all-new McLaren 750S and a deep-dive into a grudge-match over blue-chip cars down at Amelia Island and in Miami, Florida, next month.  

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Range Energy CEO and Founder, and former Tesla engineer, Ali Javidan joins the podcast to talk about his work with electric technology in commercial and freight trucking. Plus, his time during the early days of Tesla and working with Elon Musk. 

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Tom Wagner of Knighthead Capital joins Hannah Elliott and Matt Miller to discuss Singer, Revology and Formula 1. Plus, his take on the growth potential of endurance racing and the future of EVs and autonomous driving.  

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In this episode, Hannah and Matt talk about the 1962 Ferrari 250 GTO going to auction November 13 for an estimated $60 million. With Ferrari sales staying strong, even though the collectible market is cooling, will it beat the record as the most expensive Ferrari ever sold? For that matter, are classic cars even worth the trouble? (Hannah had a breakdown this week on Sunset Boulevard.) Plus, Rimac has announced a crazy new Guinness World Record--its $2.5 million Nevera electric hypercar drove more than 171mph *in reverse*. And Ducati CEO Jason Chinook joins the conversation to discuss the prospects of electric motorcycles and Matt's obsession with the new, high-powered and ultra-light single-cylinder Supermono. Maybe obsession isn't always a bad thing.     

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Alex Roy, general partner at New Industry Venture Capital, joins Hannah and Matt to talk about his new cross-country driving record using Tesla's Full-Self Driving. Plus, why are the prices of used EVs so low, and is battery degradation real?

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On this episode, Hannah and Matt talk about test-driving the new Porsche 911 S/T. Plus, they discuss the fallout from Tesla's autopilot recall. Also, listen for news on the Chinese auto empire that's hitting a roadblock when it comes to international expansion.     

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In this episode Hannah reports live from the aftermath of the fires in Los Angeles and how the blazes have affected the car community there. Plus, John Hennessey joins to talk about a new ultimate strike-force vehicle for military, police, and sportsmen, called the Warhawk.

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Guenther Steiner joins Hannah Elliott and Matt Miller to discuss life after running Haas Formula 1 racing - and to talk about his new position as the ambassador for the 2024 F1 Miami Grand Prix. Plus, he discusses his thoughts on Christian Horner's woes and whether there will ever be a woman F1 champion. Then, Hannah and Matt discuss the Cadillac Lyriq, Mercedes-Benz E Class, and McLaren 750S Spider.  

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Soon Hagerty, the senior advisor of brand strategy at Hagerty Inc. and co-founder of the Boundless Futures Foundation, joins Hannah and Matt to talk about her extraordinary journey from war-torn Vietnam to the heights of the car world advising clients like Lamborghini and directing the future of Hagerty, which joined the New York Stock Exchange in 2021. Plus, Hannah talks about a new crop of restomods dominating the car world, and Matt gets lost on his motorbike in a rice field in Spain.  

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On this episode, Hannah and Matt talk Formula 1: The winners, the crashes, and the upcoming race in Las Vegas that will see $15,000 dinners and exclusive concerts at the $2.3 billion Sphere. (Matt definitely does not want to see U2 there, or Kylie Minogue). Then, it’s a look at Ford’s new adventure driving trips for Bronco lovers and Bill Ford’s comments that EVs are growing even more political. Plus, Hannah details the highs and lows of the 644-horsepower BMW XM hybrid and Matt declares his love for the 710-horsepower Dodge Durango Hellcat.      

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In this episode, Hannah and Matt discuss the glamorous Retromobile 2024 in Paris - it's a classic car show where after-market companies, collectors, enthusiasts, restorers and prestigious brands like Bizzarrini and RUF converge to network and show off their latest projects and finds. Our duo discuss RM Sotheby's auction held this week in Paris, too, under the Louvre, where a yellow Ferrari 250 GTO sold for roughly $11 million - and unique Porsche 911 GT2 failed to sell at all. Then, Matt asks for advice about finding a fun big SUV - but with a V8 engine. He asks, Is it a risk to buy a Land Rover? Is a Mercedes-Benz a safer bet? Time will tell.  

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 Hannah Elliott and Matt Miller dissect Ferrari’s new 12-cylinder world debut cars, plus the Formula 1 Grand Prix in Miami and Matt’s skepticism that a V6 hybrid could be good - even if it is the Ferrari 296 GTS. 

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Hannah and Matt discuss the upcoming retake on the Lamborghini Diablo V-12, plus they share driving impressions of the Fiat 500e and Dodge Hornet. Then, they debate whether the Corvette is a supercar or not - and answer reader questions about wagons, JDM vehicles and elitism.  

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Indy 500 Champion Alexander Rossi joins the podcast to talk about car racing in America; Hannah joins from the Formula 1 Las Vegas Grand Prix; Matt has a GMC electric truck; and a dive into Jaguar’s controversial new branding campaign.

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Conceptual artist, photographer, author and watchmaker Phillip Toledano, aka Mr. Enthusiast, joins the podcast to talk about his love of automotive oddities, forgotten watches and his groundbreaking new work about AI.  

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American singer, songwriter, artist and lead vocalist for the rock band The Kills, Alison Mosshart joins the podcast to talk about her music, her Dodge Challenger, driving cross country, and her book, Car Ma. Plus, a $50 million Mercedes is going up for sale in Germany.

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Ducati CEO Claudio Domenicali joins Hannah Elliott and Matt Miller to talk about electric motorcycles, the secret to his longevity as a power-player in the Motor Valley of Italy, and the motorcycle-maker's total dominance in Moto GP. Will the racing series could ever be like F1, now that Liberty Media owns part of it? Plus Hannah has a story about a popular vintage Ferrari mechanic that has been arrested on felony theft and fraud charges - and has a long rap sheet to boot. And, more about the Ford F-250 King Ranch Diesel V8 and how to do Formula 1 on a budget.  

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Hannah Elliott and Matt Miller welcome Aston Martin expert Steve Serio to the podcast to talk about his 20-plus years selling the prestigious British brand - and where he sees it going in the future. Plus, Hannah and Matt compare notes on the DB12 Volante, the DBX SUV, and the new $191,000 Vantage.  

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Hannah Elliott joins Matt Miller from Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, where she's part of a Bloomberg conference ahead of the Saudi Arabian Grand Prix. (No Teslas here!) Matt dissects his Turo rental in Colorado, and Hannah updates us on how the grudge match of auctions went in Florida. Plus, talk about the 2024 Dodge Charger, which comes WITHOUT a V8. 

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On this episode, Hannah Elliott and Matt Miller discuss SBX Cars, a new online car auction platform from mega-influencer Supercar Blondie that is trying to take over the market for multi-million-dollar hypercars. Then, Hannah gives us an update on Saudi Arabia and her love of the Mercedes-AMG G63 and its metallic olive paint job and monobloc wheels, while Matt does a deep dive into a Ford F-250 with 1,200 pound-feet of torque. Plus, a look at Bentley's complicated history with Rolls-Royce and whether we want to buy a late-model Bentley at all.

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This week Jaguar Land Rover Classic's Mike Bishop joins Hannah and Matt to talk about the 10 Land Rover Defender and Range Rover vehicles owned and driven by Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II, which are going on public display for the first time in NYC this month at Rockefeller Center. Plus, they discuss a Corvette ZR1 Top Speed Record and the Porsche Carrera GT recall and new Michelin tires developed for the million-dollar supercar after the stop-driving ban was lifted last month.  

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Hannah and Matt talk about the $53 Million Mercedes Streamliner and the $560,000 Aston Martin Vanquish. Plus, Matt’s trip to Indonesia.

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In this episode, Hannah Elliott and Matt Miller talk about the crazy rock-crawling tribes that love the slow-moving, super expensive vehicles Ford and Porsche are making - and how Lamborghini is cashing in on the off-road scene, too. Then, Matt talks about a possible sleeper hit, the rare BMW M4 GTS, and why it’s so difficult to drive and maintain (distilled water, anyone?). Plus, Hannah suggests why more automotive brands should enter into public races where they can put their cars to the test.     

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Barry Ritholtz joins the podcast to talk about his new book, How Not to Invest: The Ideas, Numbers and Behaviors that Destroy Wealth - and How to Avoid Them. Plus, Matt shares his thoughts on the Crypto Reserve, and Hannah defends the Ferrari 12Cilindri.

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Hannah Elliott and Matt Miller discuss the pros and cons of the new hybrid Porsche 911 GTS - in a shocking turn of events, it is not offered with a manual transmission. Then they dissect the exciting final moments of the Indy500 and whether F1 should end the Monaco Grand Prix (there are rumors it might). Plus, Hannah fills us in about the BMW V-8 concept car and motorcycle at the Villa d'Este Concours in Lake Como, Italy. And there's some talk about the new Cadillac Optiq and Jeep Wagoneer S electric SUVs.  

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Bring a Trailer founder Randy Nonnenberg joins Hannah and Matt to talk about how he grew his online auction platform from a personal blog into $1.4 billion in sales last year - and what cars are going big in 2024. Plus, Hannah talks about buying a 1969 Corvette from a swap meet, and Matt finally finds a family-hauler he can stomach.

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On the first episode of Hot Pursuit!, Hannah and Matt discuss Hannah's trip to Austria to be the first journalist to drive the electric Mercedes-Benz G-Wagon. Can it even come close to comparing to the gas-powered G that has existed since 1979? Then, it's a look at BMW's polarizing XM hybrid, its most powerful SUV but not its best--we'll tell you why. Meanwhile, Matt is driving over New York City curbs in another expensive V8 SUV this week, the Jeep 392 Rubicon, and Hannah has a few thoughts about it from that time in Moab. Plus, Matt just bought a Dodge Challenger R/T Scat Pack Widebody - but how fast is it really?     

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Hi. I'm Hannah Elliott and I'm Matt Miller, and this is Hot Pursuit. All right, welcome to the first episode of our new podcast. Hannah Elliott from Bloomberg Pursuits and me Matt Miller from Bloomberg Television. We're going to walk you through everything that's hot in the world of autos and motorcycles. I point out, Hannah, because Ducati has released a brand new version of the Multi Strata. This is the V four version. It's called the RS. And the really cool thing about this bike, and then we'll get back to cars, is that it has the Desmo dramatic valve operation. Once again, they've gone away from that to reduce, you know, the amount of mechanical work that you had to do, the amount of upkeep you had to do, and now they've gone back just for this one version. So I'm pretty pumped about that. That's cool. It all sounds very complicated. I'm more scrambler girl myself or a dirt by I love a dirt bike. But of course we're focused mainly on cars, and you have been very much focused on the Mercedes g Wagon. So we're going to talk about that. We're going to talk about a trip that you recently took to Austria to test out a new version of that. We're also going to talk about a couple of the vehicles that we're driving, which I think people might cross shop with a G Wagon, you know, wealthy people that are looking for some kind of big, gigantic suv that has a lot of power behind it. And then we're going to talk about the new car that I recently bought, which maybe is kind of the other end of the spectrum. It wasn't very expensive, it's not an suv and it's like a dinosaur. So we'll talk about my Dodge Challenger RT scatpack wide body. Unfortunate name notwithstanding, I have to say every time when we say that name, I pringe. I think of like Dean Martin and you know Frank Sinatra. Yeah, yeah, Shahinatra was out there in a mopar type car and I don't know the history, but I think that's why they called it that. Anyway, let's kick it off with the G Wagon. So this is I think one of the coolest vehicles in automotive history. And I would say you probably agree because you're a big fan. Tell us about what you did over the weekend, so I have to say I felt pretty lucky. I was the first non Mercedes Benz employee and first American to drive the electric G Wagon, which is really exciting because we've been hearing about this since twenty eighteen when Arnold Schwarzenegger said he wanted one and Mercedes said, okay, we'll make it. Basically, this was back at the G Wagon launch in Detroit, which Matt, I think you'll remember, well, yes, but yeah, all of that to say, I went to go drive it in Austria on the Shekel Mountain also pronounced she Shekel if you want to that tea in there. It's a proven ground in Austria where Mercedes has all of their G Wagons, and I went up there to do some driving in the electric g This was a pre production electric G Wagon, and I have to say it was pretty fun. That's so cool. So I bought back a couple of years ago when I was living in Berlin the new generation of the G Wagon and right inside the door you get a little badge on all of the new G's that says something like tested on the stuckle or proven on the stuckle Jeckel proof, Yes, exactly something like that. So for g Wagon owners, the place is magical and maybe mysterious because it's in Grots and like hardly anybody ever goes there. But basically this is where Magna Steyer makes the g Wagon right there. They're not made by Mercedes in house. Yes, this is a little known fact. So the company was formerly called Poop. Now it's called Magnet. It's a bigger corporation that bought it out, but same company, same location, and it's kind of a mecha for g Wagon owners to go there. There is a factory, there's an experience center which is right by the airport, and it's it is an iconic vehicle. I mean, how many car models can you say I've been made without interruption since the seventies. I mean, it's pretty cool. I have to say, no, it's awesome, and it's in super high demand, even though it's so dang expensive, right, I mean when I bought mine, they were like one twenty five to start and there was a two year waiting list. I don't think the waiting list has come down, it's gone the other direction, and I know the price has gone up. Yeah. Yeah, that's a really good point. And this will be a challenge. I hesitate to get everyone all excited about the electric G because right now Magna makes about forty thousand G wagons per year in that facility. I was in the facility last week. It's very cool, but the production volume is limited. And I've asked Mercedes, hey, how are you going to add in all of these extra electric GEW wagons on top of your maxed out production line? And you know, they say they have a plan. They say they have They're going to have flexible shifts. They're currently running two shifts five days a week at Magna. They don't want to tell me if they're going to add a third shift. Apparently overnight shifts are tricky. You tend to get more fabrication errors in the overnight shift, so they don't necessarily want to go to a third overnight shift. But bottom line, yeah, last year there were two year wait times for new G wagons and Mercedes actually stopped taking orders on the G. It got so bad. They are taking orders again now. But you know, if you order an electric GEW wagon, I think patients will be your highest virtuo because there's going to be high demand and production will be is a big question mark. We'll put it that way. What's going to be called? Is it the EQG because all of their others like the Big the ASS is the EQS now the electric version, and the obviously the E is the EQE the electric version. So is this the EQG. But that's a great question. We've been calling it colloquially the EQG. Mercedes has been using that loosely, but that is not the official name. And Mercedes has said they're going to announce the official name next year when they announced the pricing and they have this big world debut of it. So we don't know for sure that EQG is the actual name. If you call it that now, people will probably know what you're talking about. But the official name will be announced next year. And we should say the one that I drove it was covered in camouflage. There is going to be some slight, slight, slight difference in the roofline on this Electric G Class I, and they pointed it out to me. I can't even tell the difference. It looks basically this. I mean, I don't have that refined and I I guess they changed a few things to help with efficiency. But yeah, we'll know a lot more next year. It's gonna debut on twenty twenty four. I just have one question before we go on to competitors that you and I are driving this week. On the interior of my G five hundred, the European versions were called that the US version of the G five to fifty kind of the base model. They didn't use the new MBUX, they didn't use the new infotainment system. We still had the old one. Were you able to suss out what they're going to use in terms of the interior electronics package on the new one. I have to believe that they're going to use the new system. The one that I drove was draped in a black cloth. I knew it. Although they did lift up. We were lifting up the cloak, so to speak, to change certain off road modes, to do the rock mode, to do the G turn. I should talk to you about that in a second. And it looks like the news is in there. Don't quote me on that, but it would be ridiculous for them not to put it in. So I'm like ninety percent sure that it'll be in there, and I think that's what I saw the G turn. I have to talk about this briefly. So Mercedes is doing this G turn in the new Electric g which basically you push a button and it flips the whole thing around in a three hundred and sixty degree circle without going forward to backward. It just like what does a spin? Basically? Yes, yes, And I think this is becoming a thing like remember the crab walk from the Electric Hummer, and then the Cadillac Electric Escalade has ballet mode, which like self parks. I feel like all of these new electric SUVs think they have to have like one party trick y p and the G turn is the party track, all right, So the new g Wagon is going to have real, real steering, then, is my takeaway. Yeah, let's talk about the other big, expensive, at least partially electric suv that you're driving right now, which is really controversial, the BMW x M. I already already spent a week in it, so I have my own thoughts, uh, and I think everyone who comes even near this thing as thoughts. So what are your thoughts on the BMW XM. My thought is it's ugly. It's big, and it's ugly. I can't look past the wheels which are just like these big rome break things discs. It's just big and lumbering. I'm not necessarily bothered by our new beaver tooth BMW grill which this has. Doesn't bother those don't bother me. It's just the whole thing. It's Matt. I think I heard you say the other day you were kindly referred to it as brutalist, which maybe maybe, I mean, that would be a kind way of describing it. But and you know, the exterior is it just looks rather unsophisticated and then of course worse. The interior has some design notes that I raised my eyebrow at, especially the ceiling, which is kind of like a Eastern European nightclub in the nineties. Uh. Yes, it's like lined and swayed, and it's got mood lighting and there are like sort of uneven ridges all across the top. It looks a little bit like a mountain range. Baby. I'm not sure what they were going for, but that's just the looks. I've got a lot of other thoughts about how it drives to I mean, I think also say I think it's more expensive than the g Wagon. Yes, I do think it has a brutalist look, is very aggressive it's imposing and I like that it's very big and massive. The Germans would say vuchtik, which I think is a really fitting way to say it. I love the badges on the back. You know. They have two BMW in Signa insignias on the top sides each side of the winds, which is kind of like what the M one had on its flying buttresses, if that's what you call those things. And this is the only other dedicated M car that they've made. There won't be any other base version. It's only an MV vehicle. I don't understand why they d tuned the V eight, which is in the X five M. It's more powerful in the X five than it is in this, and this is supposed to be their pinnacle like halo vehicle. And I also don't understand why they left out air suspension. I guess the engineers thought it would be troublesome for some reason. But if I'm going to pay one hundred and sixty thousand dollars before I check any boxes, I definitely want air suspension. And I want like some kind of sun roof or panoramic moon roof for something other than the horribly ugly headliner that they've put in there just for design cred. Yeah, I have to I have to agree. I think it's it's wildly expensive and the engine does sound and feel really unsophisticated. To me, that was just the That was my overall take. It just felt very unsophisticated, but not in a cool like you know muscly Way. It just felt rough. And I also, I think we have to give them props. You know, this is a six hundred and forty four horse power vehicle. It's their most powerful vehicle, I think at the moment. Yeah, you can check that, but no, it is. It does zero to sixty faster than the G Wagon and you know I love the g really fast. Yeah, and I stop on that thing and I can pretty much, you know, dominate Beverly Hills if I want to, And yes I have been. I apologize to anyone who's been around me lately driving this because it does make you feel a little bit bossy. But it's it's just you know, it's long. It's it's over sixteen feet long. It's just a brick. It's a fast brick. The anti roll bars are so strong that it's really impressive in a vehicle. Of that size and weight. But otherwise you know, it's comfy, but obviously it's for such a big vehicle. It's going to be comfy and it's kind of luxurious, but that's what you expect when you pay one hundred and sixty grand. So, and I do like the screen. There's that curve screen in the dashboard. Nice. Nice. Yeah, No, they did some okay things with it, but they should have it should be firing on all cylinders, yes, agreed, plus electric power. Speaking of unsophisticated, I'm driving the Jeep Wrangler Rubicon three ninety two right now, yes, which is obviously a car that you reviewed in twenty twenty one, and I love that you pointed out back then that you thought it was too expensive at like seventy five grand, and now you know, less than two years later, I'm driving it and the base model costs ninety three grand before you check any boxes as well, So like the price has gone twenty three percent, and it is awesome. It's so much fun. It's so loud. I drive over for every curb that I can. Today. I just crossed over a median from interstate to a service road, and I think you have to where you get your license for votes. But but man, is it expensive? Why is it so much? Yeah, this is this is a case of an arms race in terms of pricing for these SUVs. And I think I thought it was expensive when I drove it two years ago. And Jeep is charging this much because they know people will pay this much. It's it's crazy the amount of brand loyalty people who buy Jeeps have. This is another icon. I mean, we were talking about the G class being an icon. The Jeep is older than the G. We have to give props there and it is so beloved. And you know, when I drove it, it was in Moab. I was out there with Jim Morrison, not the cool Jim Morrison, Morrison, not the dead Jim Morrison, the vice president of Jeep. And he told me that basically one hundred percent some of them leave the shop with heavy modifications on them. So people are already pricing them way higher than the starting price. So when we see an MSRP of close two hundred thousand, I think we can assume that most of them don't even leave the factory at that price. Yeah, you're definitely not getting off the dealership yet without without six figures. Yeah, and you know, I don't think the Jeep Rubicon is a luxury vehicle, but they're certainly putting their pricing up where it feels like they're aspiring to be considered amongst some of these other luxury subs that are expensive. And it's all margin. Like if I look at the Jeep yes Wrangler three ninety two at one hundred grand out the door, and I remind myself that you can buy a Dodge Challenger scatpack wide body for sixty and it's got the same engine, you know, and it's also got all the bells and whistles over the base Challenger. So and they're charging an extra forty thousand for the Jeep. It's just insane. By the way, I did just buy that Dodge Challenger. And I want to talk about here we go with you for a second, because I so I got it since this is the last call, right, this is the last year they're making these, and this is like the oldest must be one of the oldest cars in production, you know, from a G class standpoint, and they'll go back the seventies. They redesigned it once. Sure, this hasn't been redesigned since two thousand and seven, with the exception of putting it on that bigger fenders. And well, I think it's cool because it's it's still attractive, at least in my opinion, and obviously it's totally subjective. But this six point four liter V eight is so much power. But they put it in such a huge boat that half the time I'm just spinning my wheels, which is frankly a lot of fun. I do it a lot, and after two weeks I'm almost done with this set of tires. What color did you get? And how is it? Opening the doors in like a garage situation? So obviously, because it's a two door and the doors are so long, it's very difficult. I just don't park next to anybody, which curiates my wife. I'll go to the other side of the parking lot to be alone. In terms of the color, it's F eight green, like an army green, which is a very cool I think it's a throwback to the seventies, as are all of Dodge's colors, and that's why I bought it, you know. It reminded me of a car that like my great grandmother had, although her wasn't quite as sporty, and I just love the kind of big American V eight feel. It reminds me of driving a car and Grand Theft Auto four. I think it was where you know, you just you pull the trigger and it starts to make a lot of noise and slowly roll and pick up momentum because it's not super fast here the sixty and then when you let go of it, it it just keeps going because it's built up so much inertia. So I like that momentum car. Yes, No, have you gone around any corner as yet? I haven't. You know. I'm kicking out at the back end of this car around every like on ramp and off ramp. But that's part of the fun for me. We'll see how it handles in the winter. I probably will be keeping in the garage when it snows. But it's just are you driving that in the city. I have driven into the city a couple of times. Wow? Any any looks? Uh? You know it's kind of a you're kind of a badass when you're driving this car. I think people are afraid of the kind of dudes who drive this car. In fact, I was getting personalized placed yesterday and I thought of getting Girl Dad because I have a daughter and I have another daughter. But then I thought I shouldn't get that because if I get into a road rage fight with somebody and then they see my license late, says girl Dad. You know, no one will take me seriously. How are you on the horn? Are you? Are you someone who honks? Honker? Yes, a lot, I'm a big honker. I do think it's a safety device more than anything. I'm just talking, just talking to you. Yes, you know. When I'm on the horn, I'm just making a statement, and I hope people, yeah, outside of my car understand what I'm saying. You know, go at that right turn quickly, please, that's right. You know, that's right. I prefer the horn to a hand gesture. I'm not a real gestory person. I like a horn. All right. That's going to do it. For our first episode of Hot Pursuit, I'm Matt Miller. You can catch me on Bloomberg Radio weekdays from ten am to one pm. I'm on Bloomberg Television weekdays from one pm to two pm. My Instagram is Matt Miller nineteen seventy three, and you can always catch my weekly car segments. What Matt Miller driving this week on YouTube, and I'm Hannah Elliott. You can find my writing on Bloomberg Pursuits, which is on Bloomberg dot com. You can also find me on x poor really known as Twitter at Hannah Elliott. That's two l's and two t's. I like to have everything. And then of course on Instagram. I'm definitely not putting my birth year on my Instagram account like Matt. It's just Hannah Elliott XO, keep it very simple. Two l's, two teas, and you can find me yeah, on Bloomberg dot com Slash Pursuits. All right, join us again next week for another episode of Hot Pursuit, same time, same place. I'm Matt Miliker and I'm Hannah Elliott, and this is Bloomberg

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Supercar maker John Hennessey joins Hannah Elliott and Matt Miller to talk about what it takes to set world speed records - and he hints at plans to put one of his million-dollar, Texas-built supercars on Germany's infamous Nürburgring Nordschleife. Plus, Hennessey is considering building a restomod vehicle (Hennessey Porsche, anyone?) and going for a new world top-speed record that could hit 500km/hour.  

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Matt is out while his wife is having a baby, so Barry Ritholtz joins Hannah to discuss Aston Martin owner Lawrence Stroll’s decision to sell a minority stake in his F1 team–with a $1.2 billion valuation, does this mean Stroll is thinking of selling more? Hannah reports back on the racing incident and the glamor after spending four days at the closely watched F1 Las Vegas Grand Prix. Then we address Michael Mann’s new film, Ferrari, which Hannah suggests is worth watching just for Penelope Cruz. (The CGI effects were not great.) Plus, Barry talks about the Mercedes-Benz CLA AMG he’ll drive over the holiday, while Hannah dissects the 2024 Audi SQ8 eTron, a new $90,000 luxury electric SUV. 

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Hannah and Matt talk about the new Porsche Cayenne GTS, Hannah gives an update on her speeding ticket, and Matt welcomes Magnus Walker to discuss his latest project, a Jaguar called the TWR Supercat.

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This week, Hannah and Matt discuss the best concept cars of 2023 (hint: Porsche, Mercedes-Benz and Audi had some good ones). They also examine how the Tesla Cybertruck has fared from concept to production. Plus, they talk about the new cars coming in 2024 they’re most excited to drive - the Cadillac Escalade IQ is one of them. And they ponder, can electric cars have a soul?    

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On this episode, Hannah Elliott and Matt Miller discuss what it's like to drive the first-ever 911 hybrid, the 2025 Porsche 911 Carrera GTS, and debate the merits of the expensive Mercedes-AMG SL63 versus the not-expensive Ford Mustang GT. Plus, reporter Max Chafkin joins to discuss his Businessweek feature on Rivian's roller-coaster ride as the anti-Tesla for EV lovers.

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Bloomberg Opinion columnist Chris Bryant joins the podcast to talk tariffs. Plus, the battle over Bugatti shaping up between Porsche and Rimac, and how Ferrari and Aston Martin are chasing hypercar glory.

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Hannah and Matt talk about the new Porsche Macan EV and the Corvette ZR1 that beats the McLaren Senna lap time at VIR. Plus, what tariffs could mean for auto companies and the result of that Mercedes-Benz SL600 auction on Bring a Trailer.

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Hannah and Matt welcome Cameron Ingram, the founder of Road Scholars, the Porsche restoration shop that counts Jerry Seinfeld, Ralph Lauren and the Porsche family as clients. They talk all things air-cooled Porsche and why it takes 800 hours to paint a car. Plus, understanding the value of the 718 Cayman platform, and Matt discovers Donks.

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This week, Matt and Hannah run down the most expensive cars sold this year and why a $11 million Bugatti Chiron may have been a good deal. Then, they discuss Horatio Pagani's recent interview with Bloomberg in Hong Kong, and what the Chinese market means for electric cars and supercars. Plus, Matt and Hannah have strong feelings about the Cybertrucks being delivered in Texas this week - and they definitely disagree on whether Tesla’s stainless-steel pickup will be a hit.     

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Hannah and Matt welcome truck-and off-road expert and TFL podcast host Roman Mica on the show. Plus, they talk about the mysterious Ineos Grenadier, electric pickups - do they have a future? - and the new Ford Bronco versus the Land Rover Defender. 

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On this episode, Hannah and Matt speak with Williams F1 team principal James Vowles on the outlook and evolution of the sport. Plus, they discuss their opinions on tinted windows and Hannah's trip to a Bring a Trailer sale for a 1985 Camargue. 

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Bentley CEO Frank-Steffen Walliser joins the podcast to talk about his plans for Bentley's future and the company's decision to delay its pure-EV strategy until at least 2035.

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Corvette Museum head of collections Robert Maxhimer joins the show to discuss all things 'Vette. Plus, Rolls-Royce sales results for 2024 and listener feedback.

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Ford CEO Jim Farley joins Hannah Elliott and Matt Miller to discuss China, EVs, Formula 1, the Mustang, the Raptor and more!

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On this episode, Hannah Elliott and Matt Miller welcome champion off-road racer Emily Miller to the show to discuss her life and work in the drivers seat at the world's most grueling races: the Baja 1000, King of the Hammers, and the Gazelle Rally in Morocco, to name a few. And they discuss what it takes to become a great off-road driver. They also discuss Porsche's first electric Macan SUV and Matt's surprising love of the Jaguar F-Pace SVR.     

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Hannah Elliott and Matt Miller talk about the launch of the electric Mercedes-Benz G Wagon in LA and Lamborghini's new Urus Hybrid SUV. Plus, Tyler Epp, the head of the F1 Miami Grand Prix, joins to share the best ways to see and experience the race in May, and his take on auto racing in America. And Matt comes to tears over the Lamborghini Huracan Sterrato.  

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This time Hannah and Matt talk about the Mercedes-Benz sports car that Lady Diana loved–and when she drove one it caused a national scandal: The 90s-era Mercedes SL Class, aka the R129. The modern classic roadster is coming up in value and prominence. Then they discuss the car events you MUST do in 2024, from King of the Hammers and F1 in Las Vegas to Pike’s Peak Hill Climb in Colorado and Goodwood in England. And Matt tells us why he loves the enormous Chevrolet Silverado 2500 ZR2 so much - even though there’s only one diesel fuel pump in all of Manhattan. 

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British pro-driver Katherine Legge joins Hannah Elliott and Matt Miller to talk about her upcoming race this weekend, the Indianapolis 500. Plus, she discusses her near-crash in Indy500 qualifying rounds earlier this week, her mixed feelings about women-only racing series like the F1 Academy, and her thoughts on why more women need to lift weights and bulk up to be better drivers.

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Hannah and Matt discuss Porsche's struggle to succeed in the world of electric vehicles. Plus, Hannah joins from San Francisco where she talks Dolby Atmos and the new electric Cadillac Escalade IQ. And Matt drives the Lamborghini Urus.

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Cox Automotive analyst Erin Keating joins the show to explain why car prices have gotten so high. Plus, Lamborghini coffee and Matt talks diving in Indonesia.

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In this episode, Hannah fights LA's worst traffic using the Mercedes-Benz Level 3 Drive Pilot system that beat Tesla to advanced hands-free driving. Matt drives the Nissan Z Nismo Edition around Manhattan but he barely fits inside the cabin, and he really needs a manual gearshift. Then, Hannah and Matt discuss the merits of electric sedans like the BMW i7 and Porsche Taycan--can you cross-shop those against a Volvo XC90? Plus, Matt wants a Porsche 911 S/T or a Porsche 911 R, but Hannah says the S/T is a cash grab and the R is wildly expensive even if you can find a used one. And maybe the Porsche 911 Carrera T is better pound for pound, anyway?     

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I'm Hannah Elliott and I'm Matt Miller. This is hot pursuit. All right. Coming up on the podcast, we're gonna talk about a self driving Mercedes, the new drive pilot technology. Hannah tested it out. Have they beaten Tesla to the punch. We're also going to talk about the BMW I seven. This is the fully electric version of their seven series, their flagship executive limousine. Hannah's driving it this week. I have driven it before and it gave me ideas for the next car that I need. Plus, we'll talk about Porscha. They came out with earnings that were obviously good because they're Porsche. I'm also driving a much cheaper I guess caman competitor in a way that we'll talk about, and they could electrify them a con. I want an ST. I tried to get a nine to eleven R. There's so much to talk about in terms of Porsche. But hey, let's start with the Mercedes Drive Pilot, which is their level three autonomous driving system. Tell us about it. Yeah, I have to say this is the big deal because Tesla has been talking about their full self driving for years and they do sell something that they're calling full self driving FSD, but it actually requires a bit of hands on the wheel and attention on the road. So Mercedes swoops in with something they're calling drive Pilot, which is level three driving, which does not require your hands on the wheel ever, and doesn't require your eyes on the road. So literally you can sit back and read a book, or watch a video, or have video conference calls, or watch a movie play on your phone. So it is kind of a big deal. There are limitations that we can talk about, but as somebody who's not especially excited about the idea of self driving in general, I have to say it did kind of win me over. I was pretty impressed. Yeah, so let's talk first about the benefits of self driving technology before we get into the limitations on the Mercedes system, and also the cost, which I think is interesting. You live in one of the most congested places on the planet, so for you it can actually like make your life better. Yeah, that's really true. And I actually when I tested it, it was on the Tin which basically goes, you know, from downtown out to the ocean, and I used to drive that way every day to work. It is some of the most horrible traffic in town. And the benefit was that I was in my car, but it felt like I had a driver, and that was a huge thing for me. I mean, the idea of having a driver is such a great luxury, and this technology, this drive pilot, really did make it feel like that. It drives the car for you. It only drives the car for you on highways that have two lanes or more and that have a solid barrier down the center. So this is already getting into some of the imitations. But the benefit is I got a lot of things done on my way to work, like answering emails, I was looking at videos, I was playing on Instagram. That's a huge benefit. And in a more general sense, I was a lot less peeved and annoyed by the time I got to the office, having not have had to fight with you know, people that I think are terrible drivers. I think we can agree that Prius drivers are the worst. I did not have to fight these people on my way into the office, and that was a huge benefit because the car took care of it. Yeah. So I mean for me, for my commute, I drive into Manhattan from Scarsdale every day. It's an hour in the morning, really and an hour on the way back. And I like to pretend that I can drive a lot myself, but the truth is I'm mostly in bumper to bumper traffic, and it would be awesome if I could do work, you know, while while I was driving. The problem is I'm sometimes slowed to a halt, like when I'm heading on, for example, to Henry Hudson. But also there are times when I'm doing sixty you know. It's like back and forth, back and forth. And one of the main limitations of this system I know from reading your story on the Bloomberg Terminal, is that it doesn't work above forty miles an hour. So I just can't imagine how it would work for me, because it would be awesome for a few minutes and then all of a sudden, what it just stops working. Yeah, actually, yes, that's exactly right. It is awesome. And then if you need to speed up and you push the gas or you even want to change lanes, it just cancels out the system. So this is actually an interesting note because level two driving will change lanes for you. It's kind of like a glorified cruise control or if you've heard of jam super cruise. It's basically that Level three will fully drive the car for you and you don't have to touch the steering wheel at all, but it won't change lanes. And it also is only legal right now in California and Nevada and Germany, so there are limitations. Yeah, and that I mean to me, it's kind of like a deal breaker because, yeah, I need it to be able to go more than forty that's really slow if you think about it. Yeah, but I guess it'll come. As you wrote that, they're pushing to get to eighty miles an hour as the next milestone, which is going to be I think when it really works, well maybe in LA people will drive faster than that on the ten. But I think one of the coolest parts of the story is that they have like special designated tail lights that are not police blue, but they're kind of like lavender, And there's a picture in the story and I thought that looks so cool. So eventually you're going to be able to know when other people have automated driving on Yeah, those lights are very cool, and they're actually primarily so that law enforcement know that this car is being driven automatically and not by a human. It's the lights actually have not yet been approved for new models, but they're trying to get Mercedes is trying to get that color approved. You know, they have to run everything through the standards and regulations to make them legal. But on these tester cars that we had, they did have these like very it's like almost a teal, just like you say, And that is largely so law enforcement know that the car is being driven autonomously and not so. You know, if a cop sees you and you're like watching a video on your phone, he doesn't pull you over. Basically all right to me. The only other problem with this is, you know, I like to do extreme tailgating, so I'm right on your bumper if you're in front of me in the left lane, because I don't think you should be in the left lane. It's only for passing, and I'm the one who's trying to pass. Also, I don't like it when someone ducks in front of me, you know, trying pass on the right and cut in front of me. So rude. And it doesn't follow that closely, does it. No, it doesn't. And if you try to follow that closely, it'll just cancel the system. So yeah, I don't I agree with you. I don't like that these new programs don't allow aggressive driving, because sometimes we do need to drive aggressively. I like your term extreme tailgating. That sounds like a hobby kind of and maybe that should go on our list of hobbies. I've taken that from college football. Yeah, fandom. That's that's very good. And you know, I think these are all steps forward. Level five is the top level of autonomous driving, and that is basically a robotax, you know, something that totally drives itself for you. So we're at level three. It's a new threshold that's been passed. They're trying to get it up to speed, no pun intended, and you know we're moving in that direction. Well it is sometimes you really do feel like you need a driver. So let's move on to the next topic, and that is what are you driving this week? You have the BMW I seven, which is the EV version of the you know, legendary seven series. I had a chance at it, and I have serious thoughts. But tell me what you're thinking about driving it right now? Well, you know what, I surprisingly kind of liked it and currently like it, and it's really funny because last week I had the BMW XM was not so much of a fan. That review is coming out next week where I'll really go on my rant about the XM. So I kind of got into the I seventh, you know, with a little bit of a cringe in my neck. But I started sort of listing out all the things that I was thinking about the I seven, and I looked at the list and I realized, wait a second, these are all positives pretty much. You know, it's very comfortable, it's large, and I think if you want a large car, this is this is great. It certainly feels more luxurious than competitors like the Porscha Ta Can or any of the Tesla models. I think it actually is priced pretty fairly. Starting prices around one hundred and seven thousand. There are tons of ops, a bunch of executive packages you can get that will make it a lot more expensive, but I actually think the starting price is pretty fair. Does this ring any bells for what you thought about it, Matt? Yeah? For me, mostly positives. I absolutely loved it, and I feel like my test drive in the I seven was almost life changing. Wow. Oh, I love the brand. I'm a huge fan of BMW and I always have been. I now have a greater appreciation for big executive limousines, and I didn't really give them much thought previously. No, I was in Stuttgart with all the Colonias when they put out the new S class, and it was cool to be in Stuttgart and to be with Ola, But I didn't really care about the S class, like I'm not buying one of those things. But this, to me kind of showed what's possible there. First are some negatives, though, I think it's the ugliest of all the executives. Sedan's, I mean, the split headlights up front reminds me of a Fiat Multipla, and I don't I don't know how the designer, the designers at BMW have been getting away with what they've been getting away with since Chris Bangle. I just don't get who approves all that junk. The other thing is not not specific to BMW, but with all electric cars. It makes me nervous watching the range tick down and realizing that at some point I'm going to have to fight some other adults for a position at a charger, or find that all the chargers that I just got to are broken. Or realized that charging it at my house is going to take like thirteen hours, like you know, just it's not a good experience for me yet. Electric electric car the range thing for sure is real. I have to I actually think it looks kind of cool. I don't know what color you had when you drove it, but I've got this sort of matt blacked out everything black. It's brown, real what it's a very dark brown. Yeah, I had the same color. I love it. Yeah, see, I think that's so cool. Well, I actually think, you know, Adrian von hoydnk is the is the current design director, and he I do like I do like his esthetic. I mean, I remember Chris Bangle was a bit controversial back in the day. People he was polarizing back in the day. And sometimes I think these things tend to age better than when they're first presented on the market. So the looks didn't bother me. My question is what did you think about the sound? This sort of fabricated electric were you know? And so in other electric cars the sound has made a big impression on me. In the EQUS by Mercedes, I really liked the fake sound that they pump into the cabin they've got to make it have some kind of sound so that you know you're driving, and so that other people know you're driving. I didn't notice it in the BMW, just because I was so positively impressed by the driving manners of this giant, hulking vehicle. It was so much fun to drive. Part of that is down to the electric drive train, which is I think flawless. But another part of it is that BMW focuses so much on the structure, on the rigidity, on you know, they what's their tag one, the ultimate driving machine. It really is true, whether you're talking about the the two series, which I love, or the seven series, which I love. I also really like the way what do you call the UX you know, the way you interact with the car's infotainment system. I've loved it since day one of the eye drive and I still love it. And obviously the materials, the build quality, like it's all a one in my opinion, Yeah, yeah, I agree, I'd buy it. I wish this daring was a little bit tighter. I think it feels slightly numb, but then I go back to, well, this is a huge executive sitan and honestly, if that means that the backseat is just really smooth and totally cocoon from the world. Then that's fine. I'm not going to like quibble with that. Really, So my house, so the reason that changed my life is that we have, you know, a baby now and a baby on the way, and so my life is all about rear facing car seats. And we have a Volvo XC ninety as the kind of family truckster at my house. But the Mercedes, sorry, the BMW seven series, I think is a Volvo XC ninety killer. And no one else is cross shopping these cars, but I think they should be because the stretch rear of an executive sedan. And it's true about I'm sure the S class or the S eight two is perfect for rear facing car seats. There's never enough room in even the biggest SUVs, the biggest European SUVs, for rear facing car seats without moving the passenger seat forward or moving the driver's seat forward, and so I think this is ideal. Plus, you know, it's the top of technology and luxury and everything that a car maker can do. The BMW seven Series, same with the Mercedes S Class, but they are so expensive to start I think the the BMW M seven sixty, which is the one I love, just they just stopped making it. With the V twelve. It was one sixty five to start, and I've seen them two or three years old with twenty or thirty thousand miles. They're clearly coming off lease for sixty five. Wow, it's just massive depreciation. So now it puts it in the range of an XC ninety plus. I get it's a BMW. It's so much more fun to drive, and in the case of the M seven sixty, it's a V twelve and it's the last one they're ever gonna make. So my next car is gonna be I'm gonna say it a BMW M seven sixty as soon as I convince my wife that she doesn't need evolthough the BMW is just as safe and even better if you have two kids. I like, I really like that. I think you've convinced me. I can totally see that, And I can also see the partners sort of saying, well, it's not enough, and you know it doesn't have the catch back loader. But I can actually see it. I can kind of buy what you're saying. Let's go to topic number three, which is like Porsche in general. Because I have a million questions for you about Porsche, I will first say that I'm this week, I'm driving the little Nissan Z and I'm actually driving the supposedly pre production version of the Nismo edition for next year. It's an awesome car. I've driven the ZB four. I love the total late seventies early eighties styling, but I think it needs a stick in order to be fun. There's no way I'm squeezing myself into something that tiny unless I'm using a manual transmission. Also, I'm just too big that they clearly made it for the Japanese market. Americans just don't fit in them. How tall are you, Matt, I'm six four. And the reason I bring up the Nissan with the Porsche's that I think it's a pretty clear competitor to a Cayman or a Boxer right in that it's just a very small, dedicated sports car. It's obviously much cheaper and doesn't have the status of a Porsche. But if you're in the market for one of these tiny little things, I don't think it matters that it's front engine instead of mid engine. I would put it up against a Cayman any day. Yeah, that's cool. Did they say what the Nismo Edition gets? You? Like? Is what extra? Does that mean? They probably do get just paint. I wasn't paying attention. No, I think it's more than more than paint. But I quickly passed it along to Barry Ritholtz, and because his wife, I think, really wants to buy one, so I thought might as well give him a chance in it. But it's a competitor to the Cayman, although probably not a lot of people will be cross shopping the two, they're not in the same exact price range. In terms of Porscha. I just have a million questions for you. So what do you think about the Taikon? I mean, what do you think about Porsche's uh drive into electric? Well, I think the Porscha Tekon was the first electric sedan that was really better than Tesla and was the first one that really showed what a proper professional car company with heritage and real German engineering can do when they decide to go electric. Because before that we had obviously some other electric vehicles out there, but if you wanted a quote unquote luxury electric sedan, Tesla was the only option. And so when Porsche finally brought up the Taykon and I remember that debut it was like twenty eighteen, I believe at Niagara Falls. It was a big deal. It was like finally, finally, like the actual big guys who've been doing this for seventy five years are going to bring a competitor, so we're not stuck having to satisfy our craving for evs with Tesla, which is not a luxury experience. Yeah, no, it's very spartan. I don't know if Portia has cracked the the range nut, because it seems like that's one of the things that Elon Musk has really been able to do. But yeah, I went to the I went to the launch on the Polish border is where they had it in Germany. I rode my multi Strata out there and I was impressed. But Walter Rural, who was the you know, the famous Elly driver, he was testing it, apparently for Portia, and he made a comment some something along the lines of it's the greatest car I've ever driven in terms of power, delivery and handling, but I would never buy one, which I thought it totally sums up the way I feel about it as well. That's fine, and honestly, I'd expect nothing less from this old guard of driver, of racing champion, especially someone who made their entire career on you know, a certain engine. I I would expect nothing less from him. It's definitely a different proposition, but I know that the market wants it, you know. I noticed in Q three earnings sales of the Taie Hun are up more than fifty percent year over year, and so I think as long as as many as Porschia can make, they will probably be able to sell. Now I want to ask about some of the special editions because when they came out with the nine to eleven are I was like, I felt like I was at the front of the line, or at least one of the first people to know about it. And when I tried to buy all, they said, no, it's already been sold out. Now they have another real purest nine to eleven in the st, which is exactly what I want. You know, I don't want any of the crazy technological enhancements. I just want a big, naturally aspirated flat six in the back and you know, a nine to eleven that can steer. Why do they charge so much and make so few of these perfect vehicles and then only offer us the vehicles that we know aren't nearly as good. The short answer is because they can. And I have to say, I love your impulse to go for the nine to eleven R, because, as opposed to the ST, which I'll get to in a second, the R has a specific vehicle from nineteen sixty seven that it's taken off of. If you remember, the sixty seven nine to eleven R was a actual race car. They made fewer than twenty five of them. It was an actual real car, never available to the public, but it actually was an actual racing car. Now, the STS from the seventies were not actually a real car. You could sort of buy a nine to eleven and spec it to ST specs. It's a combination of the nine to eleven S and the nine to eleven T, but there was no actual portion nine to eleven ST sold. You had to kind of spec it yourself from the factory. So the fact that Porsche is now offering almost three hundred thousand dollars nine to eleven ST with a very unfortunate optional heritage livery on it just seems a bit like a cash grab. The new nine to eleven R I could kind of see. They made nine hundred and ninety one of them because it was built on a nine to nine to one chassis, so that's, you know, sort of creative. But those I just checked on bring a trailer this morning. One sold in June for almost four hundred thousand dollars and that's used. So the nine to eleven RS, I can actually see the reason. But the st to me, feels like a straight up cash grap and they've got the same engine in that that they have in the GT three RS, so it's like, spend less money, get an actual proper GT three. That's my rant. I think I would go for the tea at this point because I'm getting old enough. Yes, the Caarer tee is a nine to eleven is a thinking man's nine eleven because you get everything you need nothing you don't. Also, it's way more livable. Let's not forget to use stands for touring. It's way more livable. It's honestly like the smart adult choice. It's a better compliment that I've been given in years. But I appreciate the compliment. We have the same choice in nine to eleven New nine to elevens. That does it for the podcast this week. I want listeners to know you can tune into my radio show every weekday from ten am to one pm. You can watch me on Bloomberg TV from one pm to two pm most weekdays as well, and I'm on Instagram at Matt Miller nineteen seventy three. I'm on Twitter on the same handle, but I don't really tweet that much. And if you want to find me, you can find me on Bloomberg dot com under Bloomberg Pursuits. That's where all of my car coverage lives. You can find me on Instagram at Hannah Elliott XO. That's Hannah Elliott with two l's, two t's, two h's QE of everything. And you can also find me on on Twitter splash x, although I'm not on there very much these days either. All right, catch Hot Pursuit again next week, same time, same place. I'm Matt Miller, I'm Hannah Elliott, and this is Bloomberg

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General Motors President Mark Reuss joins Hannah Elliott and Matt Miller to talk about the launch of the new Chevrolet Corvette ZR1, the 1,064-horsespower twin-turbo V8 coupe and convertible going on sale in 2025.  

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Hannah and Matt welcome automotive broker Steve Serio to the podcast to talk about the collecting market - and how Porsche is outpacing Ferrari at the sales this month in Miami. Plus, Matt gives a recap of his trip to Austin and all the Harley-Davidson motorcycles he rode.

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