Bill and Frank’s Guilt-Free Pleasures (bandfguiltfree)

Our good friend Bruce Soderholm joins us again to celebrate Foreigner's number 1 smash hit. We discuss percentages (at length), poetic devices, and that primal groan that gives so much heft to this love song. If there's one thing we hope you can take away from this episode, it is this: "It ain't worth a damn if it ain't got Lou Gramm!"

Due to timeline constraints, we had to edit out our mixtape portion of the episode. Here is the link and see if you can predict at which points each of the three hosts are taking over the mix.

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Original Music Video

Farm Aid Performance

Mariah Carey Version

Chipmunks Version

Rock of Ages Version

Tina Arina Version

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We're not quite sure what type of bustin' Ray Parker Jr. is singing about, but "Ghostbusters" is an undeniably incredible song. Dave Kitchen joins us (9th time!) to discuss the history of the song and it's meaning in our wider culture. 

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Original video

Mashup of Huey vs Ray

Who You Gonna Call (documentary) trailer

Mixtape

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Kool & The Gang's "Cherish" is a song that takes you back to a simpler time but also brings you forward to what heaven will sound like. We hope you can luxuriate in the moment while you listen to our episode!

Mixtape

Official Video

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"Too Many Walls" is a song that was played everywhere in 1991. It may not have soared to the top of the charts (except the Billboard Adult Contemporary), but it had staying power on radio. Bill and Frank learn all about Cathy Dennis in this episode, and we come away with a much deeper appreciation for "one of the most influential people in the music industry." Also, we collaborate together to create our greatest Hallmark movie yet!

official music video

Rick Dees interview 

mixtape

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We'll be back next week and in full force. This virus hits hard! Stay safe out there.

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P.S. Thank you to Marianne for the idea and most of the lyrics to this mini-episode. 

We make some magic for you in this week's episode. Kitch returns for #17 and Frank desperately battles to not only keep his position on the show, but also to argue for the existence of good witches. And we have lots to say and celebrate about America (the band, not the country) and their 1982 hit song.

Official Video

Our Mixtape

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Bill and Frank discuss Peter Cetera's greatest duet (sorry, Cher!) and the song that introduced the secular world to Amy Grant. Also, Chris Newkirk (of The Julies) joins us for an extended "Would Chris Newkirk Like This Song?" segment with surprising results. You are in for a treat!

Of all the big multi-artist charity singles, this one is the might be the best - it certainly feels the most personal. Bill and Frank test the limits of their own friendship through the analysis and reflections of this song.

Mixtape

Original Video

Alternate Video

Live Performance

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This episode has been a year in the making. When you have a song of this calibre, you need to come to the podcast with the right energy. So after scrapping last year's episode, we feel that we are finally ready to do this song justice. This is a quintessential guilt-free pleasure!

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The iconic music video

Mixtape

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Ouch. Bill and Frank are not (registered) therapists, but we know that this is not how you seek reconciliation after being unfaithful. Still, this song sounds incredible. Special thanks to Rich and the Wolfman for requesting the song!

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Our Mixtape

Official Music Video

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Dave Kitchen returns to discuss the song that birthed the freestyle movement! 

Our episode picture is Sara at the roller rink 🛼

As we head into a new year, we refuse to give into our blues and focus on Go West's "King of Wishful Thinking" - a song about pretending to be over someone. It's much happier than it has the right to be, but maybe that's the whole point? Chris Newkirk joins us once again (37:24) to give his assessment of the song and to reminisce.

"King of Wishful Thinking" original video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBZUz4C6kqk

Paul Rudd / Jimmy Fallon version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=af6L1jBZGYA

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By the end of this episode, Bill and Frank hope that you agree that 1988's  "Waiting For A Star To Fall" is one of the greatest and happiest songs of all time. Follow us on Instagram and Twitter @bandfguiltfree. Subscribe, rate, and review wherever you download your podcasts! 

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This is possibly the most intense episode of Bill and Frank's Guilt-Free Pleasures to date. We are joined by our good friend Chris Koop (of the band Lunipeer) to have a friendly debate about who gave us the best "Forever Young" out of Bob Dylan, Rod Stewart, and Alphaville. When it comes to defending a song, a friendly debate can become acrimonious quickly. Don't worry, our band doesn't break up by the end of the episode, but we do learn some valuable lessons. 

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You can find some of Chris Koop’s music at www.lunipeer.com

This took everything we had in the guilt-free pleasure tank, but it was worth it. Here is our episode on Canada's charity single for the Ethiopian famine, inspired by a phone call from Quincy Jones who was inspired by Bob Geldof who was inspired by a Canadian news piece. Everything came full circle. 

Official Video

Slightly Longer Video with better picture

The Documentary

Our Mixtape

Quebec's Charity Single

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Join us as we explore the impact of "St. Elmo's Fire (Man in Motion)" by John Parr. We discuss Parr's journey, his connections in the industry, the tight deadline he faced with David Foster, and the true inspiration behind his lyrics. It doesn't matter that its namesake movie is a stinker, because its association with Rick Hansen will always keep the true St. Elmo's Fire burning! 

Official Video

Naughty Naughty Video

Rick Hansen Promo

Mixtape

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Rick Nielson may have squashed the demo tape after he first heard this tune, but this song could not be snuffed out - The Flame endures! We dive into the history of Cheap Trick and the circumstances that forced them to accept a song by outside writers. We also discuss the power of a guilt-free pleasure, how this song fits into our podcast's wheelhouse, and how we are so glad you have joined us today! Wherever you go, Bill and Frank's Guilt-Free Pleasures goes with you!

Mixtape

Official Video

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Creative consulting by Chris Newkirk of The Julies.

This episode may have been originally recorded in winter, but we brought the heat! Chris Isaak's "Wicked Game" may be the sexiest song ever - at least the video is. Our friend (and pastor) Mike V joins us today to take a close look at a song that haunts us.

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There was a time when country was very comfortable near the top of the pop charts, and after 1981, you'd be hard pressed to find country and the pop charts commingling again. "Queen of Hearts" is a perfect example from that era, and it is one of those songs that can lodge right into a young 80s kid's subconcious and then reappear decades later to keep bringing joy. It's a big moment for our podcast: Frank is finally able to say "lover" comfortably and Bill is finally able to describe the "clickity click click clack" that he hears in this tune. *Editor's note: we're pretty sure those are hand-claps, but if Bill and Frank want to call it strumming, so be it.

Juice Newton Video

Dave Edmunds version

Rodney Crowell version

Queen of Hearts mixtape

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Bill and Frank step out of their comfort zone to discuss a song not about romantic love, but instead about political change and hope. We cover everything from whistles to Apollo Creed's untimely demise. Follow us down the Moskva as we talk about the power of music and our hope that we can still experience a wind of change in our times. 

Special thanks to Vic for requesting this song!

Mixtape

Music Video

2022 Live Version

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We are ending our special series on our favourite soundtrack music with this classic track from 1987's Mannequin. Now, this Andrew McCarthy vehicle was certainly no award winner, but it remains surprisingly watchable 37 years later. Grace Slick may have written off "Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now," but we won't turn our backs on this positive anthem to the enduring power of love!

Official Video

Mixtape

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Has it really been 30 years since DJ Jazzy Jeff & the Fresh Prince released their masterwork? In order to celebrate this milestone, we have brought in our friend Rick Morency to examine the intricacies of this seasonal jam. Put your car on cruise and lay back because this is Bill and Frank's Guilt-Free Pleasures celebration of "Summertime!"

Welcome to a very controversial episode! Is "Semi-Charmed Life” a guilt-free pleasure or should it never be listened to again? Mike V joins us to argue for its inclusion in the Guilt-Free Pleasureverse. Will Bill and Frank reach consensus? Tune in to find out!

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In order to adequately wrestle with this megahit from Batman Forever, we brought back fan favourite Dave Kitchen. It's okay to love this song!

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In this episode, we examine one of the most iconic "advice songs" in rock. For those of us who grew up on radio, we probably know of Night Ranger's "Sister Christian" as "MOTORIN'!" We dive into the story behind the song, discuss its strengths, and propose a Hallmark movie for the ages.

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Our Mixtape

The music video

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After months of tense negotiations, we were finally able to bring our good friend Liz to the show to discuss her love for Lionel Richie. Our focus today is "Stuck On You" and we discuss both the original version and the more recent duet with Darius Rucker. We dive into our own personal memories, explore possibilities for a proper music video for this song, and try to explain what it is that makes Mr. Richie's music so endearing. So don't listen to the haters - Lionel Richie is a Guilt-Free Mount Rushmore contender and the greatest moustached singer of all time!

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Also, we will be going on a brief hiatus after this episode to produce our fall lineup. See you in a few weeks. Soon, we will return and we are coming home to stay ;)

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In our first episode since Bill has recovered from COVID-19, we are discussing Leo Sayer's 1976 classic. We discuss Big Brother (boo!), the history of the song (with apologies to Ray Parker Jr), and our favourite parts of the song (and there are so many). Bill goes deep in his mixtape recommendations and Frank brings a new category to the podcast: when would you play this on a date? 

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Here are some links messaged in our show.

Leo dancing

Leo Sayer on The Muppet Show

Leo and Dionne Duet

The official video

This wasn't mentioned in the show, but we would have had we seen this earlier:

Leotallica

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[Transcript included at the end of these show notes]

Fleetwood Mac's "Everywhere" is one of the greatest pop songs ever. Although forged in tumultuous times, "Everywhere" sounds like it comes straight from heaven. 

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Our mixtape

The demo

That awful video

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Transcript

(easier to read on our website)

Bill: [0:07] Let me set the stage for you, Frank. It's 2011. Frank: [0:11] Okay, like now or then? Gotcha. Bill: [0:13] Then, so bring yourself back to 2011. Frank: [0:19] 34 years old? Oh, what was I doing? Bill: [0:23] I know what I was doing. Frank: [0:25] Oh, yeah, that's right. Bill: [0:26] I was pining. So it's somewhere in March and I'm wondering if things are going to work out with me and, Ashley because we're not back together yet. It's been this seven year stretch and things look like they're promising but there are no kind of guarantees. Frank: [0:44] Yeah. Bill: [0:52] She's actually living in France. dating somebody else. Frank: [0:58] So there's a lot of obstacles stacked up against you. Bill: [1:03] Yeah, I got some, I got a bit of faith. [1:09] And that's, that's what I had going for me. Gumption. Frank: [1:12] Yeah engumption yes. Bill: [1:16] Yeah, that's right. I had gumption. So it's my like week off from school and our great friend of the podcast, our mentor, Chris Newkirk, says to me, hey, I got to go back to the States. Do you want to drive with me? I got to go for the week. It's your holiday. Why don't we drive down and you can do we road trip it? Frank: [1:38] And just road trip it. Yeah, nice. Bill: [1:40] So I went with on this road trip with Chris Newkirk. And at one point we're doing a drive from New Jersey to Pennsylvania. And he said, you know what? I have an iPod. He had an actual one of those old iPods, not even a phone, just iPod full of music. Frank: [1:58] Yeah, yeah, yeah. I had one of those up until about two years ago when it was stolen out of my car. Bill: [1:59] Because when we play a game. [2:03] That's right. Frank: [2:04] Just so you know. Bill: [2:05] Yeah, that's right. No, of course not. So he said, why don't we play three songs each? Frank: [2:06] It's not that old. It's not that uncommon, Bill. Bill: [2:11] You pick three songs and you could set it up in queue and then he'd pick three songs in queue and so that would be our way to kind of get things moving on our journey. And so I'm looking through his music which of course is way cooler than mine so I'm like I don't know this Smith song, I don't know this Pure song. So I'm desperately trying to find a song that I could put on also to impress him because we're always kind of trying to impress him. And then I see this song, Fleetwood Max everywhere. And I think to myself, oh, I remember this song. I was a kid, I loved this song. So I put it on the queue and then those opening notes come out or what would we call it? Opening beats. Frank: [2:55] Notes. I think you were right the first time. Bill: [2:56] Notes. Notes. I think you were right the first time. Okay. And suddenly everything is right in the world. And I say to him, everything about this song, is what makes life beautiful, something like that. I had this like profound moment that everything is gonna be okay. This is the most joy I have felt. And suddenly when I heard this song, it brought back feelings of being a kid and full of wonder. And it brought back sort of memories of just straight up hopefulness. And then I knew things would be okay. And so within the week, things are looking good. I'm engaged to Ashley by June, we're married. And then flash forward 11 years later, you're sitting amongst a ton of toys and blocks. And I apologize, there was a diaper right at your feet. We couldn't figure out why this place smelled like sewage. My apologies, but this is the life. This is everywhere to me. Frank: [3:57] In your defense, you didn't smell it because you're nose-blind. But no, this is a good place to be, and I'm glad that we can do this podcast everywhere. Bill: [4:12] Christine McVie just passed away recently. So people have been commenting on social media and in the news about how she really was. Frank: [4:14] Yeah, yeah. Bill: [4:24] One of the great songwriters of the past 40 years in a sense. And with Fleetwood Mac, we love to talk about, the Buckingham Knicks thing, the kind of craziness surrounding their albums, but she was the sort of steady hand in terms of making consistently great songs. Frank: [4:44] Yeah, so after her passing, I found I was listening to the radio and they did this little thing talking about Christine McVie and how she joined the band. So I don't know if you if you heard this necessarily. So she she's married to the bass player John McVie, but she has her own solo thing going on. But the tensions of like, two artists, you know, separately on the road doing different things. She kind of took a backseat and decided like, you know, I'm gonna give up my solo career and, I'm gonna be a wife. I'm gonna try and like that this marriage is too important like I'm gonna make the sacrifice and and just like I'll give up music as my career and, Then I can't remember which album it was but they're in this cabin and they're, No, no, sorry. It was it was for a tour, tour. They're in this cabin and they're just kind of rehearsing and performing and all this. And she's sitting there just on the sidelines. She knows all the songs because she's been with the band for as long as they've been together at this cabin rehearsing, getting ready for this tour. And then at the last minute, it was just like, hey, do you want, Wanna just join the band? Bill: [5:58] And so that's 1970. She joins Fleetwood back in 1970. By 1971, she's writing and singing in Fleetwood Mac. And she stays right through, you know, you have Buckingham Nicks joining, right through this album, Tango in the Night. And then there was still behind the mask and time, albums in the 90s, she was still there. And still writing actually pretty good music for albums that were not strong. She still was the sort of steady hand. And then she was there for the reunion, retired, but then came back around, I think it was around 2014 or something like that. So she's back in the band and still playing up until recently. And so she's had an incredible career, and still released a pretty good album with Lindsay Buckingham a few years ago called Christine McVee, Lindsay Buckingham, although Buckingham McVee would have sounded way cooler. Frank: [6:52] Yeah, a little bit on the nose with the title of the album, right? Yeah. But yeah, to say that Fleetwood Mac's history of personality is tumultuous, I think is a slight understatement. Bill: [7:05] Oh my goodness. So, I mean, I dove deep for the last few days into the history of Fleetwood Mac and you can find it. You can find all these stories and it is a tale of massive excess. It's just insane. All the things I was warned about with heavy metal groups, I didn't realize Fleetwood Mac was way, oh man, it is insane. It's just insane. Just reading about the amount of drugs consumed and the amount of money spent and wasted is crazy. So we all know that, or if you don't know that, you can just look into it. so we won't dive into it. Frank: [7:44] Yeah, just just Google Fleetwood Mac Gong show and then it's something you'll get the whole history. Bill: [7:51] So Tango in the Night, which is this album, this was originally supposed to be Lindsey Buckingham's third solo album. He's working on it. He has three songs that are decent songs, Big Love, Caroline, and I think maybe Tango in the Night. I think that those are three songs he's already working on. And they ask him to come back and do a Fleetwood Mac album. So this is, I think, the record company. So his solo career is not taking off like Stevie Nicks and Christine McVie had a great album in the eighties. You really got a hold on me. Do you remember that song? Frank: [8:29] Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, big. Bill: [8:30] So good. So good. She's just so steady. And Lindsay Buckingham, I think might have produced it. Either way, Buckingham's just like, okay, I'll put my solo aspirations on hold for the sake of the band. And because he's Lindsay Buckingham, He just can't go in there and play his music. He needs to kind of take over. So whoever was producing, they just ended up saying, okay, why don't you leave? Lindsay Buckingham, Richard Dashett will come in. They're gonna produce. And so there's these stories about it. And basically it's just super depressing, how much work they put in. They put in 18 months of nonstop work. It's insane. And Lindsay Buckingham is a perfectionist, but he's also experimenting with some synthesizers. the Fairlight program we've talked about, he's experimenting with that. He's doing so much. And so every song he'd spend weeks and weeks and weeks on. [9:27] So let's head into the backstory. They ended up recording at his house a lot of the time. And that wasn't good for Stevie Nicks, who was coming out of, who just came out of rehab, she wouldn't have gone in during it. And going to her ex-boyfriend's house to record didn't make her feel well. And he's, I don't think he has like a great bedside manner anyways, Mick Fleetwood and the others ended up renting an RV and stationing it in the driveway so they could go out of his house and do whatever it is they're doing. Like it sounded just like a mess. Often they would talk about how you have the sixties and they're doing all the experimenting. And then the seventies is a lot of cocaine. And the eighties, the drugs aren't working and that cocaine's now controlling the people more than they're using it to make their music. And this is what's going on. Like it's just a mess. And Buckingham talks about how they're all at their worst point when they're recording this album. I don't know much about Christine McVie in terms of this, but she brought these songs that are wonderful to this album. Frank: [10:33] She wrote some great songs for the album. Like there's this song in Little Lies, which is... Bill: [10:38] Which are the two greatest songs on the album to me. Frank: [10:40] Yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely there. Bill: [10:43] The amazing thing is her two songs that she brought, Little Lies and Everywhere are the third and fourth singles. You'd think they would be the lead singles. So, yeah. So the first two singles are Big Love and Seven Wonders, which are good. Frank: [10:49] They're so good. [10:51] Yeah. Well, I know, right? They're so good. Bill: [10:59] It's just so weird. whole time is weird because they those songs didn't stand the test of time in In terms of us, I like them. I like them all. I really like this album. Frank: [11:07] Well, in the context of those songs, like I don't or barely remember them. But Little Eyes and Everywhere, yeah, in a heartbeat. say Everywhere Fleetwood Mac? Yeah, I know exactly the song you're talking about and I know that it's awesome. Same with Little Lies. Bill: [11:24] Yeah. So whatever went on in production, they don't have like an interview where they talk about this. But there's a demo, which wasn't released on the deluxe edition, but I found it on YouTube. Frank: [11:30] Yeah. Bill: [11:37] So I'm assuming the demo was done by Buckingham and McVie. She brings it. He does some things to, it, but he hasn't done the full Buckingham to it. So I'm gonna play this for you. He hasn't bucking. Frank: [11:49] Yeah. He hasn't Buckinghammed it. Bill: [11:51] Their new verb. Okay. I'm going to play a little bit of it for you. So you can hear the beginnings of it, but it doesn't have that special quality. Frank: [12:02] It's really quite raw. It's missing a lot of the final touches, but you can feel hints of them. So when we played this song, it sounds magical. It sounds like a fantasy. Bill: [12:15] Yeah. Well, this is it. This is why the song is so perfect. is it creates this sort of fairy-like world where people, you can almost just see fireflies around you while the song is going on. So Richard Dashett, who is the co-producer, by co-producer, he was the encourager of Buckingham. Like he's really good about this when he talks about it. He said, I know my role. There's gonna be, Buckingham is the guy. So I'm there to support him and to kind of listen and do it. He said that the beginning that we always talk about is a half speed acoustic guitar and an electric guitar combined. And then, yeah, McV said, Buckingham slowed the tape down really slowly. So they did this all over the album, slows it down and played the part slowly. Then when it came to the right speed, it sounded bloody amazing. So whatever he was doing, he was playing with both acoustic and electric over top of each other and altering the speeds. Frank: [13:10] Mm-hmm. Yeah, okay. Yeah. Bill: [13:12] And so he does this actually with like voices too. Sometimes he uses his voice to become a female voice. Yeah, there's all these things going on. So even the voices in this song, I'm not sure who they are. And so, but apparently it is Stevie Nicks because she got into a big fight with him because she thought that he took her vocals off of this song. Stevie Nicks only showed up for two weeks to do any recording of this 18 month process. So just to put that out there, so Stevie Nicks is kind of to say the least. Frank: [13:36] Oh, tumultuous. Bill: [13:42] But anyways, we got everywhere out of this time and everywhere is perfect. Frank: [13:47] Yeah, yeah if it took 18 months to get everywhere I'm okay with that. Bill: [13:52] All right, so the opener, we got that already down. This is magical, this is perfect. Frank: [13:57] Yeah, because it's a song about those first sort of throws of being in love. Bill: [13:58] And so this is one of those things where the lyrics, they're just pretty straightforward, which she does well, but she also is able to kind of take in these sort of, the emotions of love. And she's really good at singing about this feeling in love. Frank: [14:20] And that really giddy sort of euphoric feeling you feel. And it's childlike and fun and everything's great and fantastic and the world could be crumbling around you but you're in love. So you're smiling and you're happy. Bill: [14:35] And what she say here, she says, Can you hear me calling out your name? You know that I'm falling and I don't know what to say. I'll speak a little louder. I'll even shout. You know that I'm proud and I can't get the words out. So, okay. Basically, when you're feeling this, everything seems right to say, or you have nothing to say. That sound makes sense? I'm trying to find the words myself and I can't find them. Frank: [14:59] Yeah. I can't mark. Just going through those lyrics. But like I immediately went back. There's that scene in Anchorman when Ron Burgundy is falling in love. It's like, I'm in love with Veronica Corningstone and I don't care who knows it. It's just like, did I say that loudly? It's like, yeah, Ron, you pretty much shouted it. That's that feeling, right? Like you don't care who knows. Yeah. Bill: [15:20] I think that does speak of my 2011. Like I was just so, it just set everything in motion. And then it leads to that chorus with all those voices. Frank: [15:30] Yeah. [15:31] And it's layered, right? Bill: [15:32] Yeah. Frank: [15:34] And it's soft and it's not saying a whole lot. It's just repeating the same line twice, but it's so effective and you can feel it. Bill: [15:47] I can't say this enough about how his instincts as a producer are right on the money. So he'll make his songs kind of complicated or difficult at times to listen to. They're not that difficult, but he knows that there is this sort of pure beauty to what she's doing. And he just highlights it and adds to it and does creative things, but they're all about this dreamlike feel, which he does in Little Eyes as well. It's just so incredible. And I don't know how many times he's layering voices what he's doing but I can guess just from the sounds of it. It's so pleasing to our ears but, it might have been a month of a nightmare for these other co-producers and engineers who are, just watching him. That's right the one producer used the following two words to describe the. Frank: [16:34] If they have to suffer for my pleasure, I'm okay with that. Bill: [16:41] Experience trauma. Still thank you it was worth it. The only other verse really because then they. Frank: [16:44] Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Bill: [16:52] Start repeating things but something's happening, happening to me, my friend's saying I'm acting peculiarly. Come on baby. Did I say peculiarly right? Sure. Okay. I'm gonna say yes. Come on baby. Frank: [17:02] Line, the Pekirulu. Bill: [17:06] We better make a start. You better make it soon before you break my heart. Frank: [17:10] That you said, Pekirulu, that's a good one. Bill: [17:16] Yeah. Frank: [17:17] That P word that you said, peculiar. Oh my goodness. Bill: [17:22] Peq- Oh, how did she say it? Peq-ular-ly. Yeah. Frank: [17:25] Yeah, yeah. But it's, my friends have me saying, I'm acting this way. And that's like, when you're kind of, again, giddy in love. I feel like I should write a song called Giddy in Love. It'll be like the spiritual sister to Crazy in Love by Beyonce. Anyways, when you're giddy in love, yeah, you're acting a little bit different. Like, you know, you're happy, you're bouncy, you're kind of doing goofy things, I find. Like, I know that's the way I've been, like when I'm kind of really into someone and they're into me and things are going good, before everything just falls apart. Bill: [18:07] Yeah, then it's a different song. I think that song you're looking for is Nowhere. Frank: [18:11] Yeah. That song's like every other song we've done on the podcast. Bill: [18:18] That's right. [18:19] This is a brief moment of levity. Frank: [18:20] I know, right? Yeah, so, you know, we'll do a breakup song again pretty quick, I'm sure. Bill: [18:21] I know. Thank you for bringing it back down. [18:26] Oh yeah, no question. She did co-write this with Jonas David Kroeper. I'm giving his full name just because it's on my songwriting sheet here. but that was her husband at the time. So this is about their love and their early love, so much joy and... Frank: [18:41] Yeah, yeah, he was he was also a keyboard player, right? Bill: [18:44] Okay, well then that, maybe that explains... Frank: [18:46] Because I think they married shortly after the recording of this album. Bill: [18:50] Okay, right, so they're already in this sort of love. Frank: [18:52] Yeah, this this giddy stage. Bill: [18:54] She has a tendency to do that with certain songs. By tendency, I mean she wrote one other song like that. So rumors she wrote, you make love and fun, which was about her affair or relationship, with the lighting guy in Fleetwood Mac. But she told John McVie it was about her dog so that he wouldn't get suspicious or angry. Oh man, so everywhere it was not about her dog. This is about this happy new relationship, and this marriage that was coming. The power beyond those lyrics, of course, is just the sounds. It's what Buckingham is doing with those sounds. Frank: [19:31] I read a quote saying that it's a bulletproof pop song, which I will not disagree with. The song's, what, 87 it came out, so we're 36 years after this song comes out, and it still plays, and it's still bouncy and fun and poppy and great. It's not contemporary to in 2022, but it still plays. Bill: [19:55] It not only still plays, Like it shows up in commercials in the UK and then re charts at like got to number 15 recently. Frank: [20:02] Yeah, it was used for a Chevrolet electric vehicle commercial recently. Bill: [20:09] And there are a lot of bands that have kind of, arisen in the last decade, like Vampire Weekend, there's been more than a decade I know. Paramore, there's a bunch of other bands too, who've looked towards Tango in the Night as their inspiration. They talk about it and everywhere is covered by Vampire Weekend and Perron More. Frank: [20:27] Yeah, and Paramore, yeah. Bill: [20:29] So I think it is getting its due. And when you see like the top 50 songs, or Rolling Stone did the top 50 songs of Fleetwood Mac, this was number five. So I think it's not an unsung hero. People are realizing how incredible it is. It's still incredible to me that this is the fourth single. So if I had to choose between these two, I would put this ahead of Little Lies. I like Little Lies, but everywhere is the one. I can't believe this wasn't the lead-off single. Frank: [20:56] Yeah, oh I know. And it charted relatively well. It was 14 on the US Billboard Top 100. But I mean, ultimately, the Bill and Frank's guilt-free pleasure, the only chart we really care about is the adult contemporary chart, right? Bill: [21:14] Straight to number one, baby. So, and we brought this up before, even though I charted 14, whatever was number one that week. Frank: [21:16] Straight to number one. [21:24] I don't even know. Bill: [21:24] I know I don't even care because this is the one. Frank: [21:25] I don't care! Bill: [21:28] That endures, because it was played all the time. Frank: [21:30] I don't want to, you know, jump the gun here, but this is a roller rink song. Bill: [21:30] At least when I was a kid, I remember it. And so just hearing the, oh my goodness, there's so many bits and pieces to that song. [21:44] Yeah. Oh yeah. This is perfect. Roller rinks still around late 80s? Okay. Would you put, would you roller skate to this at Prudhommes Landing? Did you ever roller skate at Prudhams? Frank: [21:46] I think so. Yeah, I roller skated in the early 90s even. I mean, I would if I was cool enough to roller skate at Prudhommes Landing. No, no. Bill: [22:05] Oh man, this is a call back to our Prudhommes Landing episode. Just songs that remind you of. Frank: [22:11] If you don't know what you're talking about, just listen to all of our previous. Bill: [22:15] Yeah. Frank: [22:15] Episodes and eventually you'll get get the reference. No, no, no, no, don't tell them I'm trying to get listens here. Bill: [22:18] So in Gloria Stefan's bad boy, it's a, Oh, well we can get them straight to bad boy and we can see the, okay. Frank: [22:25] But I'm trying to get them to listen to everything. Bill: [22:27] Either way, if you don't know Prudhommes Landing, well, you'll know this is the summer song, not to jump into a category. We are there for jumping into these categories. Frank: [22:35] We're jumping into categories. Bill: [22:36] So, all right. I see this as a perfect breezy summer day. Frank: [22:44] Yes, absolutely. Bill: [22:46] Also, I could see this as snow falling close to Christmas. This could be like a Christmas song. Frank: [22:52] It's an all-season song. Bill: [22:53] It is because it just will make whatever situation you're in brighter. Now, I'll tell you what's not bright is the music video. Frank: [23:04] Yeah, it's... not good. Bill: [23:06] Yeah, apparently there was two. I can't find this other version that is with Fleetwood, McV and McV. Because by the time Everywhere comes out, this is depressing, but Buckingham has left the band. So he had done all this work on the album And then it came down to them planning their tour. And he just said, I can't do it. And basically saying, I can't be around you guys. You guys are destructive. You're gonna die. I don't wanna die. And then Stevie Nicks lunged at him while they're in Christine McVie's mansion. And then he got so angry that he chased her. And she talked about, this is Stevie Nicks saying, she was running through the halls of this sort of house that was almost like, it feels like they're in some sort, of maze and he's chasing her and they're end up on the street, he's still chasing her and she's afraid for her life. Frank: [24:05] Oh, jeez! Oh! Bill: [24:06] And he throws her against a car and then she threatens to have him killed by her family. It's just awful. And this of course is bringing over their relationship from a decade earlier and it's awful. I imagine Christine McVie just sitting still there in the house and it's- Frank: [24:17] Yeah. Oh my goodness. [24:22] I just want to sing everywhere on stage. Bill: [24:24] I know, so he's already gone, he's left the band. And so by the time this video comes out, they film it without any members of the band. And they think, oh, everywhere, why don't we do like something that's like a ghost story, and we do the highway man as a music video. Now the highway man is that old poem, and you can watch the music video and it kind of just follows the story of it. But this does not work with the song at all, because there's like... Frank: [24:53] Not at all. It's not, it's a song about falling in love and being in love early on and when everything's good and fantastic and fun. Bill: [25:04] It's not about getting kidnapped, killed and then getting revenge and then being a ghost. Oh, that's insane. The only time I want to hear the Highwayman is from Anne Shirley when she's. Frank: [25:08] Yeah, by redcoats! Bill: [25:15] Doing her speech competition and Anna Green Gables. That's the most powerful version of the Highwayman. Everything else doesn't matter. Oh, I'm sure he is. Megan Follows, best Highwayman. Frank: [25:25] Is Gilbert in the audience watching? Bill: [25:31] And rendition, that might've occurred at the same time. Cause standing green gables I think came around then. Sorry, Fleetwood Mac, bad choice. Frank: [25:35] Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bad choice, yeah. Bill: [25:39] Now, if you look at the cover of the single, this cover of the single has this sort of picture of someone whose arms are kind of open up to the world. Frank: [25:47] Oh, okay. Bill: [25:48] There's a planets star. It looks like the person who did the artwork for the little prince did the artwork for everywhere. It's perfect. It works exactly as it should. And that's what it should have been. Frank: [26:02] Yeah. [26:02] The video doesn't, yeah, it doesn't work. And if we're going to be critical of the video, so I watched it just once. And there's a bunch of scenes where like these British redcoats are running inside this cottage house or whatever it is. They're going up the stairs and it's clearly animated shadows on- so there's all these animated pieces that just like- it's like was your shadow guy on vacation? that's why you couldn't get the lighting right? I don't know. No, no, no, no, no. Bill: [26:31] It's not worthy of the song. The record company spent a boatload of money on producing this album, just like they've spent it on Tusk and other things. When oh, this is awful. This is side note, but when they would go to hotels in like the early 80s, they'd have them like bring in a grand piano. And if they couldn't get it through the doors, I don't know how you get through a hotel door, they have to like break open windows to get it in. They'd force them to repaint the walls white. so that they'd have white rooms like they were just the excess was ridiculous. That's crazy. But they didn't put any of that into this music video. No. No. No. No. How dare they? Okay. Frank: [27:08] No, no, no, no, no. How dare they? I mean, you know me, it's the chorus, right? But it's the opening of the chorus, the oh, like, I love that sustained. I right. I love that. And then I want to be with you everywhere. It's just so fun. I love it. Bill: [27:13] What's your favorite part of the song? [27:34] So that's what you're singing to in the car. Oh yeah. And you know me, I like doing backing vocals to the song so I'm doing whatever's going on in the background and trying to make those vocalizations. Frank: [27:36] Oh yeah, absolutely. [27:46] Well at the end of the chorus where it's like, I want to be with you everywhere. And then there's the sort of follow up, want to be with you everywhere. Bill: [27:53] Want to be with you everywhere. Yeah. Oh my goodness. Even thinking about that. Frank: [27:55] Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bill: [28:00] How could I pick a favorite part? Everything's perfect. Everything's great. Bulletproof. And the ending of the sort of vocals going back and forth. It's bubbly. It literally sounds like they're making bubbles to me. And it's just like, oh my goodness. Yeah. This is where. Frank: [28:02] Oh, I know. Proof Pop song. [28:14] Yeah, magical bubbles. Bill: [28:19] You go to dreamland. There's a picture of some sort of heaven where you have like grass just blowing in the wind, bubbles in the air, fairies dancing. Frank: [28:30] Yeah, people dancing with ribbons. Bill: [28:32] Yeah. [28:33] Yes. This is it. That leads us to a category pretty naturally. So for the talent show, you're going to be doing a floor routine. Frank: [28:41] Yeah. [28:41] Gymnastics floor routine with ribbons. Bill: [28:42] Yeah, gymnastics floor. Yeah, with the ribbons. Yeah. Yeah, that's that. This is easy. Frank: [28:44] Yeah. Yeah. Bill: [28:46] So there you go. Category check. Frank: [28:48] Check. Would you sing this at karaoke? Bill: [28:52] No, I don't think I could do it. It's so good that it demands this sort of perfection that I don't think I could even come near it. Frank: [28:57] I think the only way it could be done is if there's got to be someone taking the lead, but you need someone to harmonize on those choruses. Bill: [29:08] You better have someone incredible. Frank: [29:09] Yeah. I think Stevie Nicks would do karaoke with me, right? Bill: [29:14] Maybe but she might only show up for a few minutes like she did for this album. Frank: [29:19] Yeah. She showed up for enough for this album. Bill: [29:21] Oh, yeah. Okay. Hallmark movie. I have written here, no way. This needs to be a mainstream movie, not something on Hallmark TV, but this is a song that should. Frank: [29:28] Yeah? [29:28] Well, it has that, well, the opening magical like sort of dreamy sequence, right? Bill: [29:32] Be sort of like this heads in a mixtape territory. Remember when they'd play Dreams by Cranberries all the time to sort of set the stage? Forget Dreams. Play everywhere. Frank: [29:48] Well, Dreams had it too and it kind of had to because it was in the name, But also linger same same sort of a feel so I'm sure we'll do a cranberry song at some point too, but. Bill: [29:56] Our usual category, we, it keeps altering in different ways. Can Michael Bolton sing this song? Frank: [30:08] I think he can but I don't want to hear it. Bill: [30:10] No. What would Mariah Carey do to it? She would Mariah Carey it it would suck. Frank: [30:13] She would destroy this, Yeah, yeah, she I don't think she has the self-control not to go full Mariah on it. Bill: [30:23] Yeah, Celine Dion also I can't think of of anyone who could do it off the top of my head. Frank: [30:31] Also yeah. [30:32] There's a subtlety about the way that Christine McVie sings the vocals. Like she doesn't go over the top. She's a little bit reserved, like as much as it is like a fun happy song about being in love, she's reserved and conservative with it. Bill: [30:49] She does have a very British way of being, if I could say that. Yeah. She did also the song. Do you remember song, Songbird from Rumors? Frank: [30:52] Yeah. Stiff upper lip. Bill: [31:01] They closed every concert with it. So Eva Cassidy, if you remember Eva Cassidy. Frank: [31:03] Uh, yes. Yeah. Bill: [31:06] She did a version of Songbird, which is near perfect. It probably is perfect. I still don't know if Eva Cassidy could have done everywhere because there needs to be a bounciness that I, I never pictured with her, but maybe she could have done it. But there is something special about Christine McVie is both unassuming, but also is in these grand songs because she can go along with Buckingham. They always got along. So Buckingham, notoriously difficult to get along with, but he never had a bad thing to say about McVie and vice versa. They could do albums together. They understood each other. And she wasn't into all the drama. I mean, she partied hard, but compared to the rest of Fleetwood Mac, I think she's a girl guide. Frank: [31:45] Yeah, the rest of them. Yeah, she was... Yeah. Bill: [31:48] And she was also with Dennis Wilson from, um, the beach boys for a while. Yeah. There's a whole, she's got her own backstory and sadness too, right? Frank: [31:52] Oh, really? Okay. Bill: [31:56] About all that stuff. Mix tape. Frank: [31:59] You're just going to name Ashley's album? Bill: [32:01] You want me to go first? So I decided in honor of the person who was the catalyst for this song, kind of coming back to my life and then defining my 2011. Frank: [32:16] You're just gonna name Ashley's album? Bill: [32:18] You're just. Oh yeah. Well, we love you too, Ashley. But I'm thinking of Chris Newkirk. I'm dedicating this to Chris Newkirk. Frank: [32:20] Oh, that's fantastic. Bill: [32:26] Sorry, Ashley. So. She'll never listen to this. She'll never listen to this. So these are songs that I heard while hanging out with Chris Newkirk in 2011. Frank: [32:31] She'll never listen to it. Bill: [32:40] Not all of them actually, but they made me think about Chris Newkirk and his love of this sort of big dreamy sort of pop song. Okay, so everywhere we'll open it of course. Frank: [32:52] I'm sorry. Bill: [32:56] There's a song called I L U by the school of seven bells. It is insane. And the woman who sings lead also passed away few years ago, but in her 30s, I think. Frank: [33:08] Okay, oh. [33:09] Yeah, so Bill just played the song for me and it'll be in the show notes, but my goodness they gave me goosebumps bumps it's it's ethereal and and and dreamy and oh man that's good. Bill: [33:21] I heard that also on that same drive. Chris Newkirk. Wow. Great taste in music. And so also on the drive, we heard cloud busting by Kate Bush. I'm pretty sure that's like just so good. So hands of love from Kate Bush also inspired the production of Tango in the Night. So Kate Bush's style and her relentless drive was where Lindsay Buckingham was was looking towards for making this. Also, I don't think I'll ever be able to pronounce this right, but one more Chris Newkirk, number three. Hoppipolla, Hoppipolla. Frank: [34:02] Happy pool! That doesn't sound at all at least. Bill: [34:05] Yeah, that doesn't sound at all like Sigur Ross, but it is. And it's a Sigur Ross, like the major song, which played when Chris and Jade, I think we're walking down the aisle after their wedding. Frank: [34:09] That's like a new song. [34:15] Oh really? Oh nice. Bill: [34:16] So incredible song. So we were just discussing this as I was playing it, but cinematic in scope as is all these songs, as as is everywhere. Okay, and then I threw a couple more in, Fleet Fox's Can I Believe You? And one more song, Everywhere by Brandvan 3000, which I love. Frank: [34:42] Was that on that trip too or no? Bill: [34:45] No, but I just think I should have played it on the trip. I don't know if he would have liked it. Do you remember everywhere? Yes. Oh, I don't know if it fits. However, you know, those first three were something else. Frank: [34:51] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [34:57] Mix tapes are allowed to have an outlier, right? Bill: [35:01] Yeah, and maybe it transitions into yours. Frank: [35:03] All right. So my mixtape is, I tried to keep it like happy songs, like giddy songs, fun songs about falling in love. So Walking on Sunshine by Katrina and the Waves. Butterflies by Kacey Musgraves. Bill: [35:13] Okay, oh good. [35:20] Okay not crazy town. Frank: [35:22] No, surprisingly not. Bill: [35:25] No, okay, great. Frank: [35:26] He just threw me right off there. Bill: [35:31] Yeah, sorry about that. Frank: [35:33] The way you are by Bruno Mars. Love is in the Air by John Paul Young and then we finish it off with Sunshine Lollipops and Rainbows by Leslie Gore. Sunshine lollipops and rainbows everywhere that's how I feel when I feel that we're, together that's a and then finishing it off with the sunshine lollipops and. Bill: [36:00] Got it okay perfect well this mixtape just good thing i put in brandman 3000 it's just a transition straight to walking on sunshine oh good. Frank: [36:14] Rainbows. Bill: [36:15] Yeah, yeah. future I'm sure it's a future episode. Frank: [36:18] Well I'm sure yes so I before we before we came to record this song I was talking to my friend Becca and saying, oh, we got to go. I got to go and record this podcast. And he's asking, what song are you doing? I said, Everywhere by Fleetwood Mac. And she said, I love that song. When her and her partner were in New Zealand, they had this this, crappy garbage car and that had a tape deck. So her and Blake went to a thrift store to buy tapes just to play. and they bought Tango in the Night and just listened to that on repeat and this was far and away their favorite song on the album. I told Becca just like, all right I'm gonna tell that story if you're okay with it and well here it is it might actually make the cut. Bill: [37:06] I will and you know what? We don't often do these call-outs. I try to listen to other podcasts because often they're like, hey here's the name of our show which we... do we even say what we're called? Yes you did once but you have to be an astute listener but of course you also have been. Frank: [37:18] Great. Bill: [37:22] An astute enough person that if you're listening to our podcast you're looking at it and the name of our podcast is right in front of you. So we really are glad you're listening to Bill and Frank's. Frank: [37:28] Yeah, exactly. Bill: [37:31] Skill-free pleasures we don't have patreon right now for you to give us money or anything like that but what we would like is to hear your story about Fleetwood Max everywhere tell us how this song, has made your life brighter. Frank: [37:48] And also you can just mail cash to us to our addresses. Bill: [37:51] It's right. Frank: [37:52] We'll put those in the show notes. Bill: [37:53] That's right. Frank: [37:56] It's been a fun and fantastic experience putting this podcast out every week. And this song is coming out at the beginning of 2023. And we just want to thank everyone for listening to us and being with us and downloading and taking this on your drives, on your walks, wherever you listen to it. I listen to podcasts at work all the time instead of working. Bill and I would like to say we want to be with you everywhere. Bill: [38:25] Boop-a-doo-doo-doo.

Our good friend Rick joins us to discuss a song he suggested: Van Halen's "Why Can't This Be Love." Chuck Klosterman ranked this as the worst Van Halen song of all time; however, we respectfully disagree. This song introduced the world to the Van Hagar era and what a glorious era it was! 

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We may not be visionaries at the same level as Pebbles, but we can see why this tune has maintained its power for over 30 years. We discuss the history of the song (and how it was snatched away from Vanessa Williams), explore the intricacies of the lyrics, and wrestle with the problem of doing too much research on an artist. 

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We have been looking forward to this episode for over a year. Mike Balsom is a Niagara legend who was a wedding DJ in the 80s and 90s. If you were at a reception during those decades, there's a good chance you will have been blessed with his mastery of the two turntables (but no microphone!). He brings to our episode the ultimate wedding dance floor filler song: "(I've Had) The Time of My Life" by Bill Medley and Jennifer Warnes. This is a landmark episode for us. Sit back and enjoy!

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We always knew that we had to feature this song on our podcast, but we weren't ready until this moment. Welcome to our episode on "Glory of Love" by one of the most iconic voices in soft rock history: Peter Cetera. We deep dive into The Karate Kid Part II and Rocky IV as we trace the fascinating history of how this song arrived into our world. Let us be the podcast that fights for your honour!

Official Video

Mixtape

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When it comes to immortals ruling the universe, The Highlander believes "there can only be one." Does this apply to Linda Ronstadt and Aaron Neville duets? Bill argues for "Don't Know Much," while Frank argues for "All My Life." Can these coexist or will there be only one Ronstadt/Neville duet to rule the universe? Find out in today's episode!

Our theme music is by the incredibly talented Ian McGlynn!

Our good friend Nathan Holmes joins us again to discuss the type of music that we have avoided so far in over 130 episodes: the dance song. We navigate the rules of the genre, discuss our younger selves' reluctance to like dance music, and try to find out if we can answer Haddaway's question.

Bill's Awesome Mixtape

Official Sexy Draculas Music Video

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Frank's Terrible Mixtape

If you get a chance to watch Lisa Stansfield sing at Apollo (you can see that here), you can see why her singing can win everyone over, especially on the hit single "All Around The World." In this episode, Frank gives us his best Barry White impression and Bill recounts the story of how Stansfield ended up slapping Prince. 

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Mixtape

Official Video

Apollo

Barry White duet

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An incredible song with an absolutely ridiculous video, "The Warrior" is pure guilt-free pleasure. Besides discussing the history of the band, the song, and the video, we also explore Knuckles from Sonic The Hedgehog and its significance in Bill's life. And most importantly, we examine what it means to be a warrior in the world of love. 

Links:

The Warrior video

Bon Jovi video with Scandal: Love's Got A Line On You

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In this week's episode we get back to the basics of what are podcast is all about by exploring one of the few medleys to ever top the Billboard Hot 100. Will To Power's combined version of the Peter Frampton and Lynyrd Skynyrd classics was certainly divisive amongst fans of the originals, but this sound is what we are all about. (At least it is for Bill - we're unsure where Frank stands on this!)

The video

Our mixtape

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"Invisible Touch" comes at a time when Genesis was at their commercial peak. Not only did this become their only Billboard Hot 100 #1 hit, but it also found itself on the charts with songs by almost all other present and former members of the band. The song certainly has its haters, but you will not hear hatred from us: we love "Invisible Touch," although Bill must find a way to deal with the invisible touch that Phil Collins has had on him for his the past forty years. 

Invisible Touch music video

Mixtape

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This is an earlier episode drop than usual, in hopes of capitalizing on the total eclipse frenzy that is currently happening in our part of the world. There is not a better song to feature for this time of year than Bonnie Tyler's immortal (like a vampire!) and timeless hit. We've been waiting to do this one for years: the time is now!

Mixtape

Official Video

"Literal" Video

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Gregory Abbott’s “Shake You Down” is a quintessential guilt-free pleasure. Pour yourself a full-bodied glass of red wine (or two). You are about to be taken down to heaven.

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It is fitting that our longest episode to date features an icon of Guilt-Free Pleasureverse. In this episode, we examine the big hits from Rick Astley's debut album, "Whenever You Need Somebody." We examine "Never Gonna Give You Up," "Together Forever," "When I Fall in Love," and "It Would Take a Strong Strong Man." We discuss the Rickrolling phenomenon and discuss our own personal connections to the man and his music. Get ready for a lot of "walk-on" home runs in this episode!

This is a short-ish episode from us, focusing on a Christmas (and beyond) mixtape just for you! 

Our Mixtape

Ian McGlynn's "Our Favourite Christmas Movie" music video

Bill and Frank tackle Boyz II Men's debut song. We discuss Coco, Philly cheesesteaks, bad song requests to acapella groups, a proposed Broadway musical, and more! 

As far as we're concerned, The Proclaimers are more punk than any of the pop punk outfits that we grew up hearing on the radio. It took us a while to realize this, and we seek to remove our guilt for not appreciating this band enough when we were in our youth. It's not too late to enjoy what the twins have to offer, so we hope you will join us in celebrating "I'm Gonna Be (500 Miles)!"

official video

Letterman appearance

mixtape

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This song has been frequented requested from listeners, and finally we are honouring that request (this one's especially for you, Maureen!). Frank is a huge fan of this song, while Bill is a bit more reticent about naming this as a guilt-free pleasure. Despite our differences and sharp disagreements, this podcast manages to survive the episode. We follow the history of Poison in general and this song in particular. We give a deep analysis of the song and even have a botanical specialist weigh in on whether every rose has thorns.

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Links:

Official Music Video

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In case you missed it in last week's show notes, we will be taking a brief two week break from the podcast. We wanted to say thanks for listening to the show so far, and we thought we'd leave you a little gift at the end of this bonus episode.

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We can't think of many songs with as much purity of heart than Faith Hill's "This Kiss." All the joy of early and enduring love is found here, as well as a remarkable story about how this song came together. We have a dearth of episodes on country music, but we hope this marks the beginning of more steel guitar days in the Guilt-Free Pleasureverse!

Links:

The video

1998 Country Music Awards performance

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We welcome Kahlin Holmes to The Winchester to discuss a song that she has recommended for our podcast: "Fly" by Sugar Ray. We have a lot of fun in this episode as we attempt to come to terms with our own relationship to the band (and Mark McGrath in particular) and the fact that we actually like this song.  As Frank says, it does embody "that California sound that was sweeping the nation."

Our Mixtape

Big Shiny Tunes 2

The Official Video

Butterfly by Sam and Mark McGrath

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May this episode do justice to the powerhouse that is Mariah Carey, and may it serve as Bill's penance for being so wrong about her over the past few episodes...

More show notes will be forthcoming...

Mixtape

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The episode title is a little misleading. We didn't have the space to write, "The history of 'Santa Claus is Comin' To Town' and the search for the greatest version of the song from 1934 to the present time." We do get to the versions by both the Jackson 5 and Bruce Springsteen & The E Street Band by the final twenty minutes, but first we take you through the odyssey that is "Santa Claus Is Comin' To Town." Be prepared for space travel, swinging second notes, and an examination of more versions of this song than most ordinary podcasts can handle. 

Thank you for spending your time with us! 

Helpful links to deepen your episode experience:

History of the second beat

Alice Cooper version (that we mentioned but never played)

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Time after Time is truly timeless. Dave Kitchen joins us for his record 11th episode to celebrate the greatness of both the song and its "so unusual" singer. We cover the early history of Cyndi Lauper, the making of her iconic ballad with Rob Hyman, and the stories behind the "Time after Time" music video. 

Links:

Cyndi Lauper and Hulk Hogan at the Grammy Awards

Music Video

Our mixtape

Cyndi and Rob explain the making of the song

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Before The Way It Is, Another Day In Paradise, or any of those mid-eighties charity singles, there was Moving Pictures' "What About Me?" We discuss the background of the song and it's remarkable two chart runs. And, unlike the people in the song, we actually see the little people "who make the big people big." So listen to us as we listen to those little people whisper, "What about me?"

music video

mixtape

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Stacy Widelitz was kind enough to reach out to us after our "She's Like The Wind" to further discuss the song he co-wrote with Patrick Swayze. We dive into the history of the songwriting process for the smash hit as well as the lingering impact of this song in our culture. Stacy has had (and continues to have) a fascinating career, and it feels like we only barely touch the surface in this episode. 

Here's where you can find more about Stacy Widelitz:

Website: https://stacywidelitz.com/

Instagram (photography): https://www.instagram.com/stacywidelitz/ (@stacywidelitz)

Music videos of the songs we featured:

Patrick Swayze (feat. Wendy Fraser): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lU9p1WRfA9w

Vibekingz (feat. Malik): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg6wd4F6p88

Lumidee (feat. Tony Sunshine): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrLnH8k70LI

Doc Walker "That Train": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3vOuW7uVyw

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Brandy deserves a better life than the one in which she finds herself. We are here to call that sailor man to account for playing loose and fast with her heart, and to propose both a Hallmark musical movie mixtape to right the wrongs we find in this heart-wrenching and beautiful song. Thank you for joining us!

Official Animated Video 

Performance Video

Acapella Version

The Log Drivers Waltz

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This is new for us - we are stepping out of our comfort zone and focusing on a song from this year. To keep us from looking so obviously out of our element, we have brought on a special guest: Ella is a 16-year-old Harry Styles superfan and she was kind enough to join us for this episode. We all go gaga over Harry at various points as we examine three of his songs , Frank tallies points as he tracks Ella's superior analysis over Bill's, and Bill refuses to allow anyone else contribute to his incredible mixtape.

Links for further exploration:

Music For A Sushi Restaurant Lyric Video

Late Night Talking Video

"As It Was" Video

Bill's Amazing Mixtape

Fear Factor Audition 

Coachella: "As It Was"

Coachella: "Man! I Feel Like A Woman!"

One Night Only: As It Was

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One of the most unlikely success stories in Billboard Hot 100 history is Canada’s Sheriff. Despite having broken up years before, their ballad ascended to the peak of the charts to the chagrin of the record execs. The listening public will not be denied! Join us as we discuss the history of the song (a Valentine’s gift!) and the longest note in #1 pop history!

Links:

Music Video if it was actually made

Live Version

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This song brings us right back to those days at the local carnival or lower budget amusement park. For those of us in the Niagara Region, it was Prudhommes Landing. Music is a powerful thing - it brings you back to the sights, sounds, and smells of a particular time and place. Come journey with us!

Links:

Prudhommes Landing mixtape

The partial video (possibly original)

The Cats video

Prudhommes Landing pics: glory days and beyond

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Our good friend Bruce Soderholm joins us for a discussion on one of the early forerunners of what became known as "yacht rock." We discuss Player's early success (they topped the charts even while Bee Gee fever was running wild!) and take a deep dive into the intricacies of "Baby Come Back." And despite our best efforts, we can't stop talking about The Bold and The Beautiful's Ridge Forrester. 

Links:

Music Video

Mixtape

Yacht Rock Show

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Brace yourself for one of the most heartbreaking songs of 1990. You can trust us as we journey with you through this track because we understand these feelings all too well: one of us has suffered the dreaded "turkey drop" while the other knows the searing pain of break-up regret on a winter's day. 

Links discussed in the episode.

Video for 1990

Video for 1987

Our mixtape for this episode

Depressmas playlist

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We're going back to 1995 for this gem. Frank recounts how this song pushed him to take a stand and declare his love for ballads. Our visiting Guilt-Free Pleasures scholar Dr. Andrew Pendakis also sends his analysis of the lyrical content of "Back for Good." We also take some time to reflect on the music video and give some general advice on whether this song is a good template for apologizing to your romantic partner.   

Helpful links:

The iconic video: https://youtu.be/N2ICtCO8TCw

"Happy Robcore" version: https://youtu.be/iH9Cti06nsI

Guilt-Free Spotify playlist: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1AUrdnLnW0o6L0qWoA09xi?si=f5940e535c5a4ee3

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Welcome to our first episode in our special series on "Bill & Frank Go To The Movies!"  

Bill and Frank are feeling the Kenergy this week as the Academy Awards approaches and our fellow Canadian Ryan Gosling is up for best supporting actor and best song. We are well aware that we are in danger of mansplaining the Barbie movie, but we are confident that our own Ken-like obliviousness will keep from offending any listeners.

"I'm Just Ken" fight scene from Barbie

"I'm Just Ken" (Merry Kristmas Barbie) video

Mixtape

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Frank has been excited to bring this song to the podcast for months! Although it was a significant hit in our home country of Canada in the 80s, it's been largely ignored (until now). For those who don't know yet, this is tune that is going to lift your spirits (and voices!) to the heavens and cause you to work for a positive change in this world. For those who do know, you are most likely from Oceania and you know this as the unofficial national anthem of Australia! Sit back and enjoy our dive in to the world of "You're the Voice" - forget Coldplay, this is the gold standard for whoa-oh-oh songs.

Links:

Hot Rod Riot Scene

Official Music Video

Sadie The Cleaning Lady

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Creative consulting by Chris Newkirk of The Julies.

Bill's sister sends in a testimonial about what "She's Like the Wind" means to her. Bill and Frank realize that we podcast as a form of therapy. Also, we can't find the bridge!

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Like Sir James Clark Ross exploring the Antarctic, we are also heading into uncharted territory in this episode. Enya's "Orinoco Flow" is unlike anything that was on the radio in 1988, and it is unlike any song we have featured thus far in our podcast. We brought in our good friend Professor Nathan Holmes to help us navigate the waters of this classic by the "Queen of New Age." 

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Find our Spotify playlist of the music featured in our episodes here: https://spoti.fi/3KijviP

Nathan gave a long list of remixes. Here are some helpful links:

Melanye: https://youtu.be/BQHQvujWoK8

Joy's: https://youtu.be/311ozWGR2Xc

Mr. Monkey: https://youtu.be/YJSnx3uJuDE

Thomas Stoffer: https://youtu.be/ek4xM3f67J4

Mara: https://youtu.be/BB4wMRvZq4o

Smack up the Orinoco: https://youtu.be/WjY7AnUdisU

The original Enya video: https://youtu.be/LTrk4X9ACtw

Our theme music is by the incredibly talented Ian McGlynn!

Our friend and Top Gun superfan Kate Angle join us as we discuss Berlin's "Take My Breath Away." Of course, we can't talk about this song without talking about the movie, and we can't talk about the movie and not talk about that PG-13 love scene, volleyball in jeans, and the tragic tale of wingman Goose. As we eagerly anticipate the release of Top Gun: Maverick, we hope this episode takes your breath away!

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Links:

Our mixtape on Spotify. 

Star Wars Terri Nunn audition.

The Motels version of the song.

The German documentary that Bill loved.

Bonus:

Line dancing demo to the song.

Our theme music is by the incredibly talented Ian McGlynn!

Bobby Brown is at the peak of his powers in "Every Little Step" and we revisit it in all of its glory. Dave Kitchen returns for a record eighth appearance to discuss the events surrounding his purchase of Bobby's multi-platinum second album, "Don't Be Cruel." We bring back some old categories and create some new ones. Also, get ready for an epic mixtape from Frank: his music-listening life has brought him to this moment.

Links:

Frank's Mixtape

Bill's Mixtape

The iconic video

Parody video with Wayne Grady and Mike Tyson

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Dolly Parton's "9 to 5" is a sneaky song. It might seem like a fun bouncy pop song, but that masks its revolutionary intent. There's the reality of an unfair system that seeks to break us, but we got dreams it'll never take away. You better remember that, Bossman!

Music Video

Our Mixtape

Dolly Parton's America: Dollitics episode

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Considering fireworks kept going off outside of The Winchester, we did a pretty good job of maintaining our focus and discussing this country-pop crossover mega hit. Get ready to sail away with Bill and Frank!

Original video

Bee Gees live version

Stereogum article

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An almost hypnotic track about desperation in a failed relationship, Lovefool taps into the pain of our past (real and imagined) attempts at finding "the one." Our good friend Nathan Holmes drops in to help us explore the power of the song and to encourage Frank that his (possible) date night seeing "Romeo + Juliet" was one of the most adorable things we've heard. Thanks for joining us! We can't care about anything but you....

Mixtape

Official Video

European version compared side to side

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We are continuing our special music movie series, and we've brought Kate Angle back to discuss this banger from Young Guns II. I'm not sure if we use the word "bonkers" or "auspicious" more in this episode, but we are certain that Jon Bon Jovi's "Blaze of Glory" is great, while Young Guns II is not!

Video

Mixtape

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And from out of left field, here’s our episode on Taco’s “Puttin’ On The Ritz.” It is both a fascinating and terrifying cover of Irving Berlin’s famous track, and we are here to guide you through it!

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Who would have thought that an album opening with a song involving electric drills shredding guitars would close with such a sweet sing-a-long tune? Walt Whitman was right - we all contain multitudes. This is our 100th episode - thank you for joining us as we celebrate with the song our sisters loved!

Helpful links:

Our Mixtape

Official Music Video

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Dave Kitchen comes out of the bearded barley and joins us in the Winchester to discuss one of the sweetest (or most sinister???) songs of the past 30 years!

Truffaut Video

Hollywood Video

Dave Letterman Interview

Our Awesome Mixtape

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In order to properly discuss Bryan Adams first US #1 hit, we decided to bring back our good friend Kate Angle. Besides being an actual member of the official Bryan Adams Fan Club for the past thirty years, Kate famously played tambourine with Bryan Adams (and Linda Evangelista) when the Canadian rocker came to our city. We discuss the film that inspired the song, whether "nice" is ever an apt descriptor, and why Frank is drawn to bizarre 1950s language whenever he thinks about this song. 

Mixtape

The DUI video

The TV screen video

Re-Recorded Version

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You couldn't escape this in 1993, and why would you want to? We discuss the erroneous rankings from Rolling Stone and Blender concerning this song and the band. After an in-depth consideration of the music and lyrics, we revisit historical moments that occurred while "Two Princes" was peaking on the charts (27:55). To end the episode we pit Chris Baron's scatting against other rock heavyweights (31:31). Tune in to find out how he fares!

Mentioned in the episode:

Original Video

Alternate Video

Sesame Street version

Our Two Princes Mixtape

Strong Songs episode on the guitar solo

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As we say farewell to Old Man 2021, we thought it would be fitting to prepare for the upcoming Baby New Year by featuring Amy Grant's signature song. And who better to guest star on our episode than Derek "Deekatello" Veenhof, who is expecting a baby girl in a few weeks? You can find him at  https://linktr.ee/deekatello for all things Derek Veenhof - podcast (Deekast), music, and graphic design!

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Happy New Year!

We have so much goodwill for George Harrison that we had to do our best in this episode to do it, to do it, to do it, to do it, to do it right!

Video 1

Video 2

Mixtape

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Whether you see this as a prayer, a science fiction tale, or just a rousing joyful song, there's no denying the power of Mr. Mister's "Kyrie." Have your laser charged as we take you down the road we must travel in discussing this incredible hit song from 1986!

**This song came as a special request from Bill's sister, Marianne. We were lucky enough to get an interview with her (at the 35:00 mark).**

Helpful Links:

Music Video

Our Kyrie Mixtape

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Chris Newkirk and Alex Yost of The Julies bring to us a special guilt-free pleasure for today's episode: Def Leppard's "Photograph." We put on our rock and roll clown faces and dig deep into the images that are evoked by this song both lyrically and musically. The Julies not only help us to understand the technical power of this song as well as its simple magic in making a sparkly and dreamy glam metal tune. 

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When you send us requests, we do listen! This episode was recommended by frequent listener Jake Wiebe, who feels that Michael McDonald's "Sweet Freedom" is an essential guilt-free pleasure. We agree. 

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Running Scared Montage Sequence

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Toad the Wet Sprocket and Michael McDonald

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DeBarge may have been falling apart, but this track is one of the greatest summer jams of all time. We dive into the history of the band, song, and create one of the greatest mixtapes of all time.

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Once you hear that irresistible (and nearly impossible) snare drum sound, you know you’re in for 3 and a half glorious minutes of pop perfection. We discuss the history of the band as well as the complicated process that resulted in this incredible track. Nathan Holmes joins us again to bring his thoughtful analysis and to take us on a little trip to Remix Corner. 

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Remix Corner:

• Phunk Phenomenon
• Justin Strauss Remix
• Chip Nunez Driven Crazy Dub
• Monie Love Remix

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The Tube performance of "Johnny Come Home"

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This episode is being initially published in the dead of winter, but we are turning up the heat! Sade's smooth voice surpasses even the shifty operator of the song, and we are here to revel in the glory of Sade (the singer and the band). We discuss the history of Sade (the singer and the band), analyze "Smooth Operator," defend dodgy geography, and cover as many categories as possible to keep you satisfied!

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Bill and Frank may differ on the interpretation of this song, but we both agree that it is FANTASTIC!

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The Girl From Ipanema Goes To Greenland: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpKEzFZYqBg

Tribute to Ricky Wilson: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lxk10SrSe-U

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For the first time in the history of our podcast, we are featuring a song that was released in the 21st century! In honour of the tenth anniversary of one of the most perfect pop songs of our time, we have decided to gush over "Call Me Maybe" by Carly Rae Jepsen. We also sit down with Austin Huh - one of the premier karaoke singers of Southern Ontario - to discuss whether one should even attempt to sing this. If you love great pop music, you will love this episode!

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Here's Cookie Monster's version of the song:

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If you find yourself feeling warm during this episode, it's because we're turning up the heat with Al B. Sure!'s debut single. 

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Dancing with David Bowie

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Have you ever had a bad day? Bill and Frank have had bad days, too. But you know what? They have found the cure for a bad day - it's listening to Shanice's "I Love Your Smile." Enjoy this episode - your day is about to get a whole lot better!

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Our friend Bruce Soderholm joins us for our salute to one of the greatest guitarists to come out of Canada and his most popular song. You are in for a treat! 

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David Letterman appearance

Arsenio Hall performance

Roadhouse clip

Angel Eyes Video

Jeff Healey Official Website

A few more words about Jeff Healey (mentioned in our appendix)

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Frank has finally gotten his wish: we feature the king of freestyle's biggest song on our show. We cover the scrappy history of Stevie B and the culmination of his career in producing this giant hit that spent four weeks in December of 1990 at the top of the Billboard charts. Also, we dive deep into the song, discussing its divine origins and our own reactions. Thank you for joining us! 

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In order to properly celebrate this milestone episode, we knew we needed to go big. Who better than the top selling act of 1990 and 1991, with over 70 million records sold merchandise sales over $400 million in 1991 alone? Despite Cover Girl never reaching #1 on the Billboard Hot 100, it is the #1 New Kids On The Block song for Bill and Frank. We deep dive into the history of NKOTB as well as closely examine why we love this song in particular. 

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Are you ready for your earworm for the week? We can't get enough of Sheena Easton's #1 hit, and there is so much to discuss. Join us as we delve into what brought Sheena into the spotlight, whether the lyrics speak of a sustainable relationship, and how the universe conspired to have two number one hit songs with the same name in the span of only a few months.

The Big Time episode featuring Sheena Easton

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You may not remember many phone numbers from your youth, but I guarantee if you have ever heard this song, you have not forgotten Jenny's number. We take a tour through the writing of the song and dispel popular myths surrounding the track. We analyse the lyrics and attempt to answer the unanswerable questions surrounding the song's events. Frank also details how he prepared for his own phone calls to potential love interests despite his entire family sitting at the dinner table beside him. Thank you for joining us!

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The original version of "Wild Horses" is difficult to find. Outside of the music video on YouTube, it's not available on any streaming service or for sale electronically. Stranger still, Wikipedia has no entry for the song or its corresponding album. This is a shame - "Wild Horses" is an incredible song. In this episode, we give you all the information (and more) that we could find out on the song and video, from mystical experiences in Peru to a shaman named Jamie in Arizona and ties to the Getty family. Sit back and enjoy. It's Gino time!

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Frank: [0:00] So today on Bill and Frank's Guilt-Free Pleasures, we're going to talk about Gino Vannelli's "Wild Horses." We're going to discuss his determination in getting a record deal, his connection with a shaman named Jamie, and also his connection with the Getty dynasty. Bill: [0:17] But before we get to that, cut to the theme music. Frank: [0:22] Take it away, Ian McGlynn. Bill: [0:44] In this episode, we are pushing Frank Pearson to the limit. Because today's song is a mysterious song. It's a song that seemingly has disappeared from all streaming services. It is difficult to find any information on. Frank: [1:07] Yeah, there's no Wikipedia page specifically for this song. There's no song facts page for it. I have not been able to go to either of my main resources to look up information for this song. Bill: [1:21] And I realized this as I was doing my deep dive and I thought wow they even scrubbed the album from Wikipedia So today's episode is on Gino Vannelli's "Wild Horses." So turn up the heat, pour yourself a glass of red wine. Frank: [1:39] Sit back and enjoy. Bill: [2:04] As we mentioned, this is a challenge. Frank: [2:08] Oh my goodness, like I have so many tabs open on my computer right now and each of them has just a little bit of a nugget of information for the song or for Gino Vannelli and I mean I'm going to, be honest I'm probably not going to refer to any of them I'm just going to make it all up as I go along but yeah researching this was a little bit of a little bit of a chore for me I'm glad I had a little bit of time off over the holidays so I could dedicate some time to it. Bill: [2:38] So why don't you give us a little history of Gino Vannelli anyways that you could find anyways on as far as the artist goes. Frank: [2:45] Gino Vannelli was born to his parents, has brothers and sisters, and is a musician. Oh wait, it's only brothers, isn't it? Bill: [2:53] You sure he's got any sisters? Yeah, okay. All right. Maybe maybe I'll have to take over, He's coming out of Montreal Quebec and so we also featured another musician at a Montreal named Andy Kim, who also had a similar backstory in that they went to the big city in the States. For Andy Kim, it was New York. For Gino Vanelli, I believe it was LA? Frank: [3:20] It was Hollywood actually. So this is one of the things that I actually found, I think it was a YouTube interview that he did. They booked tickets to go to Hollywood and they get there and they realize they're in Hollywood Florida, not Hollywood California. He went with his brother Joe. And this is according to Gino Vannelli in a YouTube interview. This is something that I find interesting too, because some musicians have varying like origin stories or Genesis stories that that changed from interview to interview. So you kind of wonder which which is true and which is a bit of an embellishment. Anyways, according to Gino, he and Joe had tickets booked to go to Hollywood, but end up in Hollywood, Florida and then have to book a separate trip from Florida to California. they end up in Hollywood proper. Bill: [4:13] And while they're in Hollywood, he's being supported by his family. His parents are good to him. Like in terms of the story, his mother was sending money. But what ended up happening is his mother sent money to Hollywood, Florida instead of Hollywood, California. Was that what happened? Yeah. So I don't know if they went to, I mean, I didn't hear the story about them landing in Hollywood, Florida, but his mom had sent money to Hollywood, Florida and they were stuck. They had no money. They'd been trying to make things work. And he was kind of at the end of things. as far as making his dream happen. Frank: [4:46] Yeah, it was down to like his last $5. Bill: [4:48] Yeah, so he went into a church, he said, and sat in this church sometime in the early morning hours. It was open, sat in there, and just, I think he fell asleep. He said the quietness of the place, not so much some sort of mystical thing. He was really quick to say that, even though we'll talk about his spirituality later, I'm sure, but he said the quiet sort of space helped him to know what he needed to do. And then he went over to where Herb Alpert's studio was. And he sat there while the guard who is slightly injured, so he couldn't run so fast, but the guard's like, you stay there. And Gina Vannelli said, I'm allowed to stay here. It's on public property. And he said, don't you dare try to run over and talk to anybody. And Gina Vannelli's like, yep, yep, yep. And then he sees Herb Alpert come out and then he darts across the parking lot to get to him. Frank: [5:41] And Herb Alpert, sorry, is one of the co-owners of A&M Records. Bill: [5:45] Exactly, and so the guard is saying, damn you, he's trying to get him, pulls out his gun apparently, because Herb Alpert's wife has been stalked. Frank: [5:51] Oh, jeez. Bill: [5:55] Or something like that, so Herb Alpert's wondering what's going on. So in this moment, Herb Alpert's thinking this could be the stalker, Gino Vannelli's taking his life in his hands, and then he just says to Herb Alpert, I have all these songs, I want to try these things. And Herb Alpert says to the guard, like, hey Joe, relax, it's okay. And the guard is so angry. And he says to Gino, come back in half an hour. And so Gino Vannelli comes back in half an hour, plays the songs for him. And then Herb Alpert said, welcome to A&M Records. Frank: [6:27] Yeah, and it's similar to the Andy Kim story where he had a similar instance. He was in New York, but same thing, regular exec just waited, waited, waited, and finally kind of ambushed the exec. And I will apologize that my confusion with the Hollywood Florida versus Hollywood California story in my typical research fashion, I was, you know, 100% into it. I was a had the YouTube video playing while I was scrolling through Tinder. So it's. Bill: [7:01] Wait, wait a sec. Did you make up the Hollywood Florida story? Frank: [7:03] No I thought that I heard that I think it might be true. I'm not sure. Bill: [7:07] Okay, but you know, he's gonna be so angry when he listens to this. So there's something about Montreal singers who have the sort of moxie to just go for it. Frank: [7:10] I know right. [7:16] Yeah, yeah, they got a lot of guts and especially to run through a parking lot, with the security guard chasing you like that's like going all in on your dream. Bill: [7:27] The guns pointed. Yeah, hopefully Joe was a bad shot. Well, hopefully he didn't kill curb Alpert. Yeah, these are tough times. Oh. Frank: [7:28] Yeah. [7:33] Yeah I know I like to think that the the guard was probably distracted by Gino of Nellie's amazing hair. Bill: [7:39] Yeah, he's a very good-looking man and in 1970s Gino Vannelli hair is something else now Gino Vannelli is very successful in the 70s, He had his big album. I think was this I was his third album or fifth album brother to brother Yeah, and the song was I just want to stop written by Ross Finnelli. I believe is one of his brothers I thought I was written by Gino was actually written by his brother. Gino is a songwriter. Yeah. Frank: [8:04] Make sense brother to brother. Bill: [8:06] But well, yeah, there we go. And that's a huge rock song and also I mean he just Did huge business in the 70s we head into the 80s and now it's a different time Gino cuts his hair. Frank: [8:10] Well, yeah, because the 70s are different from the 80s. Bill: [8:21] They are but there's a sound new wave has come in and Gino purposely ends up making an 80s record before this one so, He gets into a fight with CBS records or Arista one of these record companies of what he's with and they won't let him Release his music. So there's this, Lengthy period where he doesn't release anything. So you have Nightwalker has come out in 81 and then it takes until until 1984 for Black Cars to come out. And Black Cars is an 80s synth album. And he knows what he's doing. And then the follow up to that three years later, his big dreamers never sleep. You'll see on your Wikipedia page in front of you, Frank, there is no hyperlink. No one has published a Wikipedia entry. Now, of course, the question is, will we be the people who publish that Wikipedia entry? Frank: [9:12] I'm going to include the story of him traveling to Hollywood, Florida. Bill: [9:16] Yeah, and so we'll see if within half an hour someone changes it, we'll know it's false. So Big Dreamers Never Sleep, 1987, this album comes out and it's as usual produced by Gino Vannelli and his two brothers, Joe and Ross, and it includes kind of his last major hit, which is "Wild Horses," the song we're doing today. And then this sets in motion his future, I think. Cause by then now he can become a touring thing. He's got all these songs and "Wild Horses" is one of those regular songs he sings. Frank: [9:49] Yeah, yeah. Bill: [9:52] Yeah. So as I said earlier, I really pushed this episode. So I apologize, Frank. I'm like, we're doing Gino Vannelli, we're doing Wild Horses, it's happening. And Frank didn't realize I bought the CD online because you can't get an MP3, you can't buy a legit copy of this online. So I went and bought the actual album. So I got the CD and it's that old CD thing where you open the booklet and like, oh, here's a list of songs and a list of performers, no lyrics, it's thin. And the back page is all about how great a compact disc is. Oh, seriously? Oh yeah. Frank: [10:24] Oh seriously? Bill: [10:26] So I think I have an original copy. I think it might be a German pressing even. Yeah. Frank: [10:30] Yeah. Bill: [10:31] So it's fine. It's very 1980s in its production. There's a couple tracks that really stand out for me, but Wild Horses, Far and Away is a big one. Now it's written by Gino Vannelli and Roy Freeland, which I don't have a lot of information on Roy Freeland. I would have liked to have dove more into this, but he's done a lot of work with other songwriters. So it's hard to know, this frustrates me, when a songwriter doesn't talk about his co-writer. So when Gino Vannelli talked about writing the song, and talk about Roy Freeland's involvement. Frank: [11:08] I mean, it is a Gino Vannelli song. So, you know, it's tough to take that away from Gino. But at the same time, you know, throw the man a bone. Bill: [11:18] Yeah, now to be fair, I think both you and I when we talk to others about the podcast we don't even mention each other. Frank: [11:26] Oh, no, I call it my podcast. Who's this Bill guy? It's just a character I do. Bill: [11:31] Yeah, he's the other guy but anyways while I was making this. Frank: [11:34] One stop. Yeah. There is a Wikipedia page for that song. Thank goodness. Bill: [11:35] So, okay this brings us to the song There's so much to talk about with Gino Vannelli and he's so interesting in this way that I want to talk more about Gino finale and hopefully we do an episode on I just want to stop. Yeah, that's gonna happen. Yeah. And I have this working theory or interest in Italo Canadian rock stars. Someday I'm going to write a paper on this, publish it in our scholarly journal that we publish semi annually. Frank: [11:58] Yeah. [11:58] Oh, yes. [12:06] You mean our show notes? Bill: [12:07] Yeah, our show notes. But I'm not there yet. But I just want to note also Italo Canadian when this comes up in our future episodes this year. All right, did you find anything on the song? Gina Vannelli talking about it. Frank: [12:20] Yes, like the inspiration for it. Yeah, yeah. So, oh, it's a classic mysticism rock star move. So Gino Vannelli is in Peru and he's hiking to Machu Picchu. And he doesn't say it specifically, but it's 100% assumed that he's in Machu Picchu. He takes part in one of those ayahuasca ceremonies, which is, it's like a tobacco. It's like a cannabis sort of, well, it's not cannabis, sorry. It's a... Bill: [12:58] It's not peyote, is it? No. Okay, so did you find an article? Like, I was looking high and low for, I found one interview. Frank: [13:04] Well, I read an interview, I read an article and I listened to the one interview and he. Bill: [13:11] Yeah, okay, go ahead. Keep going on the Ayahuasca thing, yeah. Frank: [13:14] Doesn't say specifically that he was doing ayahuasca but you look at Machu Picchu and he said he was involved in a sort of spiritual awakening and then when you research Machu Pichu, yeah, they do these ayahuasca ceremonies, which sort of healers and shaman or whatever in Machu Picchu, it's part of the ceremony, it's supposed to open up your mind. Bill: [13:41] Gotcha. Okay, so I couldn't find an article on that stuff. That's good research. Good job. Frank: [13:46] He doesn't get an answer through this whole ceremony and through his whole experience. Bill: [13:51] But something has happened to him right he's had some sort of spiritual awakening. Frank: [13:55] Awakening. So he goes home and then he starts talking about it just like I need an answer for what happened in Peru. So he hears about the shaman in New Mexico. Bill: [14:07] In New Mexico, Jamie the shaman. So Jamie the shaman is in New Mexico and he flies to Albuquerque and then has to drive. Frank: [14:10] The shaman. [14:20] Yeah, Jamie. Bill: [14:22] To the fun is it Santa Fe is that in New Mexico is something like that. Frank: [14:23] To find the shaman. [14:27] Yeah. Bill: [14:28] So he's driving and a convertible. So this is just to me is like, first he's a rock star who went to Peru while there was like all this civil unrest. People are getting murdered and stuff. Frank: [14:38] Yeah, they're oh yeah. Bill: [14:39] He's like, but I had to be there. I'm like, Oh, this is so rock star has this experience on a mountain top. And then buys a flight to New Mexico from LA. I think that's where he was at that point gets a convertible because of course you get a convertible and then drives at like a hundred miles an hour down these roads, which is super dangerous. Frank: [15:00] The whole time he's kind of tapping out the beat of the song on the steering wheel. And he's saying like, I gotta get to that. I gotta get to the shaman. I gotta get to shaman Jamie. Bill: [15:11] He did. Frank: [15:13] I have to get there. It's like nothing's gonna keep me away from shaman Jamie. So he's booting along and I don't even again, I was probably scrolling Tinder, But did even he was talking about getting lost. Did even find Jamie. OK. Yeah. Bill: [15:28] He got to Jamie, but he never got the answers to what he needed, but he got this song that he had in his head. By the time he got there, he had the chorus kind of mapped out and so he had wild horses in his head and he had the drum beat going. Frank: [15:41] Yeah. Bill: [15:41] And so I imagine Roy Freeland probably helped in fleshing out these songs that he'd have them and he'd be like, not a ghostwriter, but the sort of person who comes in and helps kind of clean things up. That's my guess. Roy, you can reach out to us though. Frank: [15:52] Tell us your ayahuasca story. [15:57] But yeah, so the whole time when he's tapping it out on the steering wheel and he's coming, he's like, he's saying, I need to get there. wild horses aren't going to keep me away from getting an answer to my questions, to getting an answer for my vision. Bill: [16:11] Right, so this song in interesting ways, because you can see this as a love song, but this could also be a song about his seeking the divine. And so wild horses couldn't drive him away from this experience. But of course we're gonna dive into these lyrics. Frank: [16:28] Yeah, so the lyrics kind of indicate it's more of a romantic thing, but I think it's, This also, it also parallels nicely with his like dogged determination and his experience with Herb Alpert and getting a record contract back in the 70s. Bill: [16:47] Yeah, that's good analysis. Frank: [16:50] That is good analysis. Bill: [17:12] Alright, now it's time to dive into "Wild Horses" The Song. As the sun goes down on the Arizona Plane and the wind whistles by like a runaway train, Hey hey hey, it's a beautiful thing. Well it's me and you and a flatbed truck, my heart kicking over like a white tail buck. hey hey hey in the middle of spring. [17:59] So, whitetail buck, deer, middle of spring is they want to get some dates. They got like the Tinder thing going on for deer. Frank: [18:09] Yeah, the the the the bucks are on their Tinder. Right. What's deer Tinder? What do you think that? I wonder what that was? Yeah. Yeah. Bill: [18:13] You just always swipe right. Yeah. Always. I saw a bunch of whitetail buck actually in the woods and we followed it. Frank: [18:22] Oh, yeah, by by your place, eh? Bill: [18:22] Yeah. But then following it, I realized they're probably coyotes, which is a really bad idea to be trying to follow a group of coyotes. It was the total setup. Frank: [18:31] Wait, so you saw kairi's that were dressed as deer. Bill: [18:33] I gotta go see the optometrist. Frank: [18:35] This is sounding like a Looney Tunes episode. What I like about that opening lyric and we were talking about this when we were listening to the song beforehand is there's the and the wind whistles by like a runaway train, the drums, it's that clickety clack. It's that train sort of you get that real feeling that imagery of a train. So again, this is something that that the lyrics represent what the sound is. Bill: [19:04] Exactly. And they make sure to have like such perfect production for this. They have some of the best session players around, I think anyways, because the drummer and the drums are the key. It's those, it's those brushes on the drums. And that's Dave Garibaldi, who's the drummer for Tower of Power. And it's incredible. And so as you listen to it, those drums drive it. But there's also this bassist named Jimmy Haslip, who's on the bass. And if you go through, through his like website, you can see he just plays, he's just a session player. And he just came in for this one song and holy cow, that bass moves and then you have Joe Vannelli on the xylophone. Frank: [19:46] Thank you! Bill: [19:47] So those things altogether make this song what it is. And then Gino's voice is this sort of, I don't know, I'm trying to think of, he does something with it. It's different from I Just Wanna Stop. What are you thinking? Frank: [20:01] I get huge how this feels. feels. Bill: [20:03] So there's some Roy Orbison Elvis and other performers who I was thinking of that have that but the Elvis thing is really what I was thinking too. Frank: [20:15] That that hey hey hey like it's that. Bill: [20:18] Yeah. And so it's that lustiness, right? Like Elvis, even though now, at least for us growing up, I never thought of him as the this sort of sex symbol thing, but he was that thing in the 50s. And then Gino has that feel he's bringing to the table. And then you got, okay, the next section there, you can cut me deep, you can cut me down, you can cut me loose, it's okay. Yeah, yeah, it's okay. And then he goes to, you can kick and scream, you can slap my face, you can set my wheels on a high-speed chase, oh you, no matter what you do. And we go into that chorus. Is it... Frank: [20:56] No means no. Bill: [21:21] It's kind of creepy But this is the nature of these songs of that era, especially before. So it feels like it's harkening back to a 50s, 60s feel. And that's where you have this notion of this chase. There is something to it when you read these things like, ah, I don't know if I'd sing I'm saying that now, but that's not our styles when we're trying to woo women. Frank: [21:45] That is Gino style. Gino doesn't give up. again the whole Herb Alpert thing and you know speeding to see Shaman Jamie. Bill: [21:54] Yeah, "Wild horses could not drag me away from you." It is such a great line, and it works so well with all the sounds around it. And when I was a kid, I remember, this is the first time I heard a song about wild horses. And then of course years later I'm like, oh, there's a Rolling Stones song? Oh, I guess Gino was just singing a Rolling Stones song. And now the Rolling Stones song goes like this, wild horses couldn't drag me away. Frank: [22:22] Yeah. Well, it's a common saying though, too, right? Bill: [22:23] Okay. Yeah, I guess it is, yeah. And then, you know, there's, so there is a whole thing about wild horses in song. So Gino's got the, he's got the moxie to say, I'm gonna use this that Rolling Stones have used, I'm gonna use it in my song. only to be taught by Bono who's gonna use it a few years later. Frank: [22:42] The. [22:42] Yes. The feel of the song is a very Southwestern feel. Like I said, the clickety clack of the drums almost has a bit of a country edge to it. rock edge to it. Bill: [23:20] Yeah. And there's this, uh, I have written down here, evocative, erotic imagery, right? There's this sort of notion of like, it's me and you in a flatbed truck in a foot of mud, just my luck. Is that bad luck or good luck? Cause he's stuck in mud in a flatbed truck. That kind of insinuates that that's not a bad thing for him. Is it? Frank: [23:43] Yeah, I mean, if he's with her, it's a good thing because, you. Bill: [23:48] Is it? [23:48] It's a flatbed truck. Frank: [23:49] Know. Yeah, exactly. And the horses are going to get stuck in the mud too, so they can't even drag him away from her at that point. Bill: [23:54] Yeah, exactly. [23:54] Right, they could probably help to get that truck out of the mud though. Frank: [23:56] Yeah, maybe. Yeah, just get a team of horses like a chuckwagon kind of a thing. Bill: [24:02] So we have the second verse has a nice balance to it where he says, well, as the sky falls down, right? And then that's where it begins. I guess the other one is the sun is going down. Now the sky falls down from the midnight blue, spitting like bullets on a hot tin roof. Hey, hey, hey, it's a beautiful sound. And I know that sound, the sound of rain coming down on a hot summer night on a tin roof. Frank: [24:27] Yeah. Oh, yeah. Like bullets. Yeah. Like he says. Bill: [24:29] Oh yeah, like bullets. Yeah. Like he said. Exactly, yeah. Oh well, it's me and you in a flatbed truck and a foot of mud, just my luck, 100 miles out of town. And so again, I guess that's good luck. Although if the rain's coming down, I don't know if you want to be in a flatbed truck. Frank: [24:46] Well, they might be inside the cab of the truck. Bill: [24:48] Okay. Frank: [24:51] Just just because it's a truck, does it in a flatbed truck doesn't mean you have to be outside in on it. Bill: [24:55] Right. If I was going to go literal, he has a tin roof on that truck and it was too hot. Don't touch the tin roof. [25:25] Again, these are images and we learn from Richard Fry. Literalism isn't needed here. just get the picture and get the feel. Frank: [25:34] Yeah, exactly. It paints a picture. Bill: [25:36] And then from there, it goes to the same line. I'm all, it's different here. He says, yeah, you can call me a fool. Frank: [25:42] No, it's different. Yeah. Bill: [25:44] You can call me blind. You can call it quits. I can't hear a word that you said, what you said. Cause if I had you once, I'm gonna have you twice. Ah, okay. I'm gonna follow my heart instead of good advice. Frank: [25:58] No, I have is that good advice. Bill: [26:03] I think it makes more sense to say instead of good advice. my heart instead of good advice. Frank: [26:08] So my reading of it was, I'll follow my heart is that good advice. It's a question. And I'm going to tell Gino here, for someone who's been a fool in love and has been blinded by love, sometimes following your heart is not good advice. You do that too often you end up like me researching while you're on Tinder. Bill: [26:31] Stuck in a foot of mud. Yeah. And then of course we go on to the wild horses. there's repeats and stuff but the feels just come through and it's incredible just the sounds of the song. Frank: [27:10] The sounds in the imagery that it paints you can feel the song. Yeah, it's very textual. Bill: [27:18] Yeah definitely I was wondering this should textual is but what was the other word you said earlier remember what was it yeah definitely not a word yeah. Frank: [27:21] Yeah, definitely not a word. [27:29] Shakespeare in Vengeant Words, why can't I? Bill: [27:34] Oh, you're not Shakespeare. Frank: [27:36] Could be. The instrumental is that syncopation? It's got to. Bill: [27:38] All right. I was wondering if this should just become a category. Take it to the bridge. So the bridge in this song must be that part where he sings a bit and then it moves to the brushes doing. It's got to be something like that. And it just is perfect because it just brings you to the end and all the good stuff going on there. And the brushes, you know, clean the floor. They do. Ah, that sounds a lot. Frank: [27:57] Be syncopation. There's a definite divide between the, song and then the ending and that just sort of takes you on a little journey. It does. The bass goes for a walk and it takes you along with it. [28:17] Yeah, yeah, I was gonna say the brush has set the pace. Bill: [28:21] Better than me going through man madry. Yeah, it's phenomenal. [28:55] Do you remember the first time you heard this song? Frank: [28:57] It's got to be early 90s, the first time that I really paid attention to it. Because I know that I've heard it, I must have heard it back in the 80s. But it was probably the early 90s when, I'm just starting to get into music and understand music. Starting to gain a small appreciation for, the stuff my parents listened to, in terms of like the Rolling Stones. So I probably heard it. and thinking it's like, that's not "Wild Horses." That's by the Rolling Stones. And then, hearing it again and listening to it. And the more I preferred this version or this the song to the Rolling Stones "Wild Horses." And I love the Rolling Stones "Wild Horses." Bill: [29:41] Yeah, I'm with you on that. I love this version. This is the version, And I would have heard it probably in the late 80s on video hits on cbc. Frank: [29:49] Oh, okay. Yeah. Bill: [29:51] Because this didn't do well in america, but with cancon regulations in canada you had to. Frank: [29:53] Because it had to have no choice but to do good. Bill: [29:59] And this is an example where cancon is great because the song is great, So for whatever reason it didn't make it over there, but we heard it over here I feel like I've heard it on the radio and they would play it on the radio I just never knew it was Gino Vannelli I wouldn't know who he was anyways then but it was a song I remember hearing cuz I played it for Ashley, This is a big test of course, Ashley's sitting next to me and I said, okay We're gonna do this song next and I play it and all I could think of is like yeah She has no idea about the song and she hears it. She goes. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I know this song. Frank: [30:32] She says that about a lot of songs, Bill. Bill: [30:34] But no, she was like she started humming the xylophone part She was like, whatever, I want to hum it. Yeah, and so she had it, like, okay, she knows this song. And so it is a song where people know it, even though when I say Wild Horse's Gino Vannelli, I feel like people might not be aware until they hear it and they're like, oh, I I know this. Frank: [30:53] Yeah, and even to mention Gino Vannelli, you're like, I know the name, but I have no idea what he sings. But then you say like wild horses, and you start, singing a bit of the song or I just want to stop. People know that song. So they know who Gino Vannelli is. They just don't, know who he is. Bill: [31:13] The music video is iconic. Frank: [31:16] Well, yeah. I want to say that there's a new move that I'm going to add to my dance floor repertoire. And we talked about like, there is a, There's a subtle eroticism about the song. And in the video, it's just Gino Vanell, like there's the one movie that he does where he he takes his fists and he's not pelvic thrusting, but he's just like slamming his fists on his, upper thighs and he just like and like to the beat and just like that's a new dance floor move for me. Like that that's a little bit of a transition move, but it's going to come out next time I'm on the dance floor. Bill: [31:51] You. [31:51] It's great. And so those who haven't seen the video, of course, you'll see the show notes. They'll be there, That's the only place you can hear the song if you're looking online. Frank: [32:00] Yeah, unless you buy the CD. Bill: [32:01] Unless you buy the cd like I did I would like to buy the vinyl me. I'll look for the vinyl next So let me set the picture for you. It's black and white, he's wearing A white billowy shirt not quite the pirate shirt that we would have seen in seinfeld but not too far removed from it very 80s, He's got those jeans that are they may be acid washed or stonewashed. I'm not sure Is that a stonewashed like acid wash or not at all? Wait, I think they're acid washed. Frank: [32:30] You're asking me fashion questions and I really have no answer to that. Bill: [32:33] Okay, so they're acid washed jeans I think or they're the blue acid wash style at least of that era and He's got some lighter Western boots on perhaps brown perhaps white hard to tell, So when you see him snap his fingers and then pump his fists against his thighs, he's moving with the beat, he's got the two-hand snap back and forth two-hand snaps sometimes hitting his thighs and, He's got, great hair. Frank: [33:04] Because I have it kind of playing here. Well, while we're talking about it. Everyone is sweaty. Yeah, it's the Arizona plate. Bill: [33:10] It's hot it's at least it looks hot I mean Arizona plate. It's hard to know like I keep thinking it's a carnival, but the scenes are like they're in the backyard of a hot Arizona town. Frank: [33:25] I think like raising Arizona like there's a there's a because the the laundry's out on the on the line and everything. Yeah. Bill: [33:32] Yeah, that's right because that's the background is these bedsheets that are hung up. There's a woman just sitting in her like bikini that looks like she's from the 50s maybe chewing gum and not. Frank: [33:42] Yeah, sunglasses. Yeah. Bill: [33:43] Interested. But there's also this fan beside her like those fans you see at the top of buildings that spins around. What type of fan is that? Yeah, so the condenser fan is right at her feet so it's like are they on top of a roof? But then you have a band behind him and it seems like at least one. Frank: [33:50] Well, that would be a condenser fan for an air conditioning unit. Bill: [34:02] Or two bass players at once. There's someone playing xylophone, someone playing drums, but there's, three iterations of this band. It keeps changing to these people who look like players because they don't look like anybody you would hire to act. Frank: [34:15] I'm looking at there's there's the one like bigger drummer, like he's balding wearing glasses and everything like, and I'm not here to shame, but he's not a Hollywood like attractive, man that you would like feature in a video. Bill: [34:31] There's only one person who is both out of place and totally in place and that is the it girl, So she's playing harmonica or appearing to play harmonica I'm not sure we can even see a harmonica and she's just moving with the rhythm and she is striking and She is sweating. Yes, like she's probably sweating the most which of course is very 80s. Frank: [34:45] Yeah, dancing and clapping. Yes. Yeah. Bill: [34:53] Yeah, and so Juno belly's kind of sweating but she is sweating and she's kind of like moving and and he's not, like this is the interesting thing for me in the video, is they're not set up as love interests. She's dancing around him to the music and he'll look over at her kind of, but he's not interested in her in that sort of way. Frank: [35:13] Main character of this video is the song. Bill: [35:17] And so they're moving to it and she's just kind of this character that as a viewer you're drawn to. She is totally fascinating. Alright, so here is some deep research. Two in the morning, I wake up, can't sleep. Maybe thinking about the video, I don't know. And like, I gotta figure out who this person is. So I find this article online. And let me just read the title because the title says it all. MTV It Girls. Who's the girl in the video? This is the article. Frank: [35:51] So you went, okay, you read the article, but then you went all the way through the comments. Bill: [35:52] They go through iconic ones. And then in the comment section, someone says, who's the girl in "Wild Horses?" [36:03] The comments. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I kind of typed into the search engine and then it said it had. Frank: [36:04] To find this information. Bill: [36:09] Something written there, but I had to look through and there's nothing on it. But several people wrote in the comments, who's the girl and "Wild Horses?" So clearly there are people wanting to know. So I get this name Rosetta Millington. And looking it up, like, who is she? I click on it. It's like, it's not Rosetta Millington. Someone named Rosetta Getty. Who's Rosetta Getty? So I'm I'm looking at this I see a picture of this person like well, that's her but there is nothing Linking her to the video. She is not, Unfamous She is married to Balthazar Getty who is the great-grandson of Jay Paul Getty, I believe it's Jay Paul Getty who is the richest man in the world Do you remember that movie all the money in the world? Where's about the kid who got kidnapped? That's Getty. Frank: [36:57] Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Did they invite? Did they invent Getty images? Like when you? Bill: [37:00] And so his father Balthazar's father. [37:06] Yeah, the Getty no, it's all connected. Yeah, it's all connected. So. Frank: [37:09] Is it? Yeah. Okay. I was trying to be hilarious. Bill: [37:11] Yes, I think so. Anyways, I at least from what I know because there's this Getty Museum and stuff. Frank: [37:15] Oh, that's unfortunate. Bill: [37:16] And So Balthazar Getty's father is the guy who got kidnapped, in that and had his ear cut off by the mafia and all that and then had a pretty tortured life and died young. Frank: [37:27] Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Oh, that's unfortunate. Bill: [37:28] So Balthazar Getty was a son who never really had you know, a good father figure anyways. This is kind of going off on the side here, but it's all gonna come together. He marries Rosetta Millington who becomes Rosetta Getty who has her own clothing line. Frank: [37:42] So how does she end up in this video? Bill: [37:43] And she's like a fairly big deal from everything I see and they're worth a ton of money, like 300 million. This is before they're married. So there's no mention, she's online and everything, no mention of this video. But when you see her, that is Rosetta Getty. And she has her own line of gowns and stuff. And you can watch these videos where they talk about their life together. And the reason I'm bringing this up is She maybe inadvertently follows the theme of this song, because Balthazar Getty was not an easy person to live with because he had this very public affair with Sienna Miller in 2008. Frank: [38:26] Oh, that's right. Bill: [38:28] Oh, that's right. So everyone knew this. He had kids, like they had three or four kids, I think. And he was off for a long time with Sienna Miller and they got back together and they're still together, because wild horses could not drive Rosetta Getty away from her husband despite, yeah, very public. Frank: [38:45] His infidelity. Yeah, very public. Wow, that's crazy. Bill: [38:48] So it's crazy. So that was my deep dive research and it's totally her. And there is no connection. So I don't know if she's used her money to push down "Wild Horses." I don't know why, because it's fascinating. And as far as eight girls in a video, she's not exploited, I don't think. I mean, it's, we're guys talking about beautiful woman in a video, but she's just this fascinating figure. Frank: [39:13] Yeah, yeah. And she's not I mean, it's not an overt objectification of her in the video. It's not her front and center writhing in a bikini on a car or something like that. Bill: [39:25] No, she's not wearing the bikini the person wearing the bikini is just sitting there. Yeah, I. Frank: [39:28] Yeah, and she's completely uninterested. It's almost like a David Lynch film. Bill: [39:32] Was Heather in down yeah, that's great. It is like a David Lynch film If anything, this is what Wild at Heart should have used maybe I mean, of course, what am I saying? Frank: [39:34] I would be down. Do you know that? [39:43] Yeah, well, why would a hard? Bill: [39:44] Chris Isaac, but this has a total lynching feel and belt is our getty said David Lynch. This is not connected but is is he sees David Lynch as kind of a surrogate father to him. All these weird connections. Frank: [39:56] But. Bill: [39:59] Yeah. Either way, this video feels like Lynch. Frank: [40:03] Yeah. [40:03] It's all six degrees of Gino Vannelli. Bill: [40:06] Yeah. Thank you, Gino for Twin Peaks. So that video is so watchable. I've, I've watched it over and over again, but I also can't help but see Eugene Levy playing Gino Vannelli from the SCTV. Frank: [40:14] So. [40:20] In an SCTV parody of this, yes. Bill: [40:20] Yeah. Yeah. They did a parody of it. I just want to stop where he keeps singing and growing more and more chest hair. So that would be like when we talk about categories, if we're even heading there, we might as well. Frank: [40:26] Yeah. Bill: [40:32] Hallmark movie is like, well, it's a David Lynch movie. This belongs in a David Lynch movie. Frank: [40:35] Yeah. in David Lynch movie. Yeah. Bill: [40:37] So I can't see it as a Hallmark thing, but I can see it as a David Lynch movie. Frank: [40:41] Can we talk about Gino Vannelli in more recent pop culture history? So in 2008, Boston Celtics would play a clip of Dick Clark's American Bandstand and it's just like music playing and a bunch of people dancing and it was like you know panning through the crowd and everything and the end of this clip that they would play at Celtics games and it was always during a blowout win for the Celtics. The end of it was this bearded man wearing a very, very tight t-shirt with Gino Vannelli on it. It just said Gino, and they call it Gino time. So in 2008, Gino Vannelli is thrust into the forefront of the Boston like sort of sports pop culture history because everyone knows the guy who's dancing in video and everyone knows the shirt that he's wearing so it's Gino time so Gino Vannelli has this small little resurgence in 2008 and that's also the year that they won their last championship was 2008 so Gino Vannelli has a part of the Celtics 17th championship in the NBA. Bill: [41:53] All right, let's talk some categories. Okay. Michael Bolton. Could Michael Bolton sing this? Okay, I was actually thinking he could if he toned it down. Frank: [42:08] But you're asking a bird not to fly. Bill: [42:10] I was gonna say at the end, but he could not by the end. He just go wild. He is the wild horse. Frank: [42:15] He is the wild horse. Bill: [42:17] Now I do have another category unfair because I didn't tell you about this. But who who else could sing this and I have one person who I feel could sing this and that's Chris Isaac. Frank: [42:25] Yeah. It's fine. Oh, yeah. Well, it has that that sort of, like. Bill: [42:28] Oh yeah. Yeah. Frank: [42:30] I said, that southwestern almost rockabilly feel to it. So, yeah, who else would who else would would be able to do that? maybe John Bon Jovi and his like cowboy rock stage or Kid Rock? Okay, like Enya? Bill: [42:44] Or I could see it being like a female voice who makes it feel kind of ethereal. So maybe. Yeah. Yeah, she could. Maybe Anya. Maybe like a Phoebe Bridges or a Tori Amos? Could she do it? I'm just trying to think. Someone could do something with it. Could Jule sing this? Frank: [43:14] Yeah, I can hear Jewel singing this. Yeah, Jewel. This is your challenge. And we know you listen to the episode. So we challenge you to sing Gino Vannelli's Wild Horses and send it over to us and maybe hang out with me. Bill: [43:15] Yeah, all right, Jule. The challenge is on. [43:49] Another category here what season of the year and what time of the day does this song work best? Frank: [43:56] End of summer in the evening. Bill: [43:58] You got it, that's the answer. All right one more for you. What part of the date do you play this song on? Frank: [44:05] Okay, it's not a first date song. You know what, it's a third date song after you have a mild misunderstanding. If you're really into her, but without, you know, going creepy. Bill: [44:14] Oh, okay, Okay, because I have getting fresh written down. Not mild misunderstand. To me it seems like that would be your kind of go-to kissing song. It's a kissing song. That's a game. Frank: [44:21] Okay, well that's usually third date. [44:29] It's a kissing song. And a flatbed truck. Bill: [44:33] Yeah, all right. I mean there's one more major category we gotta get to of course. Mixed tape. Mixed tape. You got a mixed tape going? I have a mixed tape. Okay, I'll let you go first. Frank: [44:40] Okay, yeah. Mix tape. Okay. I have a mix tape. Okay, so my mix tape, the theme I went with was songs that have animal names. Bill: [44:51] Animal names? animals Okay, all right, all right, gotcha, okay. Frank: [44:51] Animals in the title. So, Like a Bird on a Wire, the Neville Brothers, Barracuda by Heart, Rock Lobster, the B-52s, A bit of an outlier here and this is just because I love the band but also the song is beautiful. Transient Whales by Toad the Wet Sprocket. Pony by Genuine. And I am ending this just for you Bill hands by Jewel. Bill: [45:30] Hands is not an animal. It's not funny anymore. This is like four, I don't know how many episodes you've done this to me, whether I've kept it in or cut it out. Okay. Frank: [45:40] No, no, no, I do have an ending for you and this one honestly is just for you. by crazy town. Bill: [45:42] Oh yeah. [45:47] Yes. Oh, what an ending. Oh, that's a great transition into my stuff. So my mixtape went with texture to quote you actually actually from an earlier episode. So after you know, Wild Horses plays or I guess your part. I'm on fire Bruce. Frank: [46:01] Oh yes! Oh good call! Bruce Springsteen can sing me a song. Bill: [46:08] Springsteen. Yeah. Oh, good. Yeah, I got the feel. Yeah. Oh, he could totally sing this. I just died in your arms tonight cutting crew. Okay. Drive the cars. Wicked Game Chris Isaac. Frank: [46:18] I will listen to this mixtape. Bill: [46:24] And then I'm gonna end with Yeah, who's gonna ride your wild horse is you too, because it has that feel and not the one that's on Octon baby, but the mix that was actually the single. It has that sort of feel as well. And it's like a scale, back Bono. And I really like that song and the wild horses fits within the Gino wild horse world. So it feels like the Gino finale is like wild horses won't drive me away. And Bono is like. Frank: [46:47] Yes, yeah. Bill: [46:53] Who's gonna ride your wild horses? There's there's something going on there. It is the Gino verse. Yeah, I felt really good. I spent a lot of time on this. I do have something else. Gino is so weird. When he's interviewed, he doesn't Frank: [46:56] It's all in the Genoverse. Yeah. That's a great mixtape. Bill: [47:09] even bother talking about "Wild Horses". He only wants to really talk about his spiritual journey. I just don't want to hear about it. I want to hear about "Wild Horses," Gino! I don't want to hear about the ego and you're Carl Jung. I just want to hear - Frank: [47:20] I just want you to stop and tell me all the things about you baby.   Bill: [47:24] Exactly. So I am so glad we got to talk about a song that's not easy to find on Spotify, that's, not easy to find anywhere. Yeah, that you'd have to go on Amazon and look for dreamers never sleep if you wanted to get a CD copy of this. Frank: [48:00] Yeah, or write Bill, he might be able to send you his. Bill's like a CD library. He can he lends them out and they do come back sometimes. Yeah, and the song I think is critically. Bill: [48:09] They do. You know what? are still an awesome way of listening to music. Frank: [48:17] Critically underappreciated. Like we said, it did very well in Canada, but in the broader North America really didn't chart but such a such a good song such a really really good song and a visceral song, you can feel it. You can feel everything that he's singing. It is so good. Bill: [48:39] Yeah, I can't help but gush over this and so, you know, we don't do irony anyways, We like to joke around we don't do irony and this song is incredible. So if you're out there And you know this song but haven't been able to sort of place it anywhere. We're here for you, and, We want you to know that no matter what's going on in the world, wild horses won't drag us away from bringing guilt-free pleasures to you. Frank: [49:13] Thank you for listening.

There are many songs called Gloria out there, but it is Laura Branigan's "Gloria" that is above them all. We discuss the history of the song, its impact on pop culture, and much, much more. 

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The original version by Umberto Tozzi

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Welcome to episode 1 of our podcast! Bill and Frank breakdown why "Just Another Day" is a perfect song to listen to at the supermarket. Let's celebrate Jon Secada's first single!

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Mixtape

Top of the Pops video

Questlove Interview

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It may not have won the academy award for best song, but "Let's Hear It For The Boy" has stood the test of time. We revisit the history of Footloose, discuss the career of Deniece Williams, and analyze this #1 song. 

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Mixtape

Official Video

Footloose Montage Scene

Hot Rod Forest Dance

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In this episode, we celebrate Eric Carmen's final big hit. It is a song that is both out of time and right of its time - a tune that harks back to early rock n' roll but also contains the unmistakable productions of the 1980s. We love it!  We discuss the song, Eric Carmen's perfect hair, and argue for a greater appreciation of his contribution to popular music. Turn your radio up!

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Our awesome mixtape

The original video

The choir version

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In honour of St. Valentine's Day, we picked a band whose name represents the holiday perfectly. Frank is away running a marathon in Antarctica (!), so we have two special guests to make up for this massive loss: our frequent contributor Dave Kitchen and the famed "Wolfman" from the north, Dave Huizer.

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Official video: https://youtu.be/41P8UxneDJE

These Beans: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrYkjTCgDJ4

The demo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q31-_ufXiQY

We recorded this on the night before Frank was about to see his all-time favourite band for the first time. It was fitting, then, that we featured the group's "Walk On the Ocean."

Official video for the song.

Our special "Walk On The Ocean" Mixtape

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You can find us on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and our website!

Here is our Spotify and Apple playlists for every song we've featured.

Our theme music is by the incredibly talented Ian McGlynn!