Biblical Higher Ed Talk (ABHE)

In the second part of our interview with Mark Barnes, Principal Product Manager at Logos Bible Software, we expand on the global landscape of theological education.

Mark sheds light on the challenges faced by pastors and ministry workers worldwide, many of whom lack access to formal training. He shares insights into how Logos is equipping these leaders with robust study tools and highlights the importance of cultural and contextual relevance in theological education.

Join us to explore how mentorship, creative approaches, and cutting-edge technology are transforming theological education across the globe.

Join us as we discuss:

• [6:44] The leading challenges in global theological education

• [11:48] Why cultural context is important in overcoming language barriers

• [16:16] How Logos is working to be a resource to the majority world

• [23:38] AI and enhancing international learning experiences
  

Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:

• Logos Bible Software

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Obligations in the board governance and strategic planning of biblical higher ed institutions often get a bit murky. If a school ultimately fails to support leadership in reaching its goals, who’s responsible?

Scott Rodin, Chief Strategy Officer and Senior Consultant with The FOCUS Group, believes the school’s board chair must instill a culture that embraces God’s vision for its campus. Only then can leadership truly come together to carry out their college or university’s mission.

Scott shares key observations about the critical role board governance plays in today’s Christian higher ed institutions and common mistakes to avoid.

Join us as we discuss:

• [3:10] Three observations on the current state of biblical higher ed

• [12:12] Why a boardroom’s culture can make or break a school

• [21:50] The need for agile strategic planning in a post-Covid world
  

Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:

• The Greater Mission by Scott Rodin
  

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Fundraising — just one word is enough to fill some college leadership with insurmountable dread.

For others, it’s a chance to put their best foot forward and to potentially set a predecessor up for success.

For Mark Maxwell, the President of Prairie College, it’s about calling on God for His advice, weeding out people who may not be mission-driven, and looking to leave a legacy.

In this episode, we explore what it takes to fundraise in a world that calls you to stand firm in God’s word.

Join us as we discuss: 

• [7:29] Higher ed in the U.S. vs Canada

• [12:18] Forward momentum on a college campus

• [27:30] When fundraising is not successful
  

Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:

• Canon of Scripture

• Contrarian’s Guide to Leadership by Steve Sample

• Art of War
  

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Jesus said in Matthew 9:16, “With God, all things are possible”.

It is essential to accept the call of the Great Commission to lead others towards His promise.

Have you sat down and asked your students if they could comfortably do the same?

Teaching others how to share the promise of God is the key to creating more relationships with Christ.

Nicole Vallance, the Founder of Connected with Nicole, kicked off our Christ-centered conversation. A passionate advocate for leading people to Christ, Nicole is all about making heaven crowded.

In this episode, we discussed the importance of sharing the news of the Lord.

Join us as we discuss: 

- [6:47] Myths to stop believing about the lost

- [16:03] Overcoming objections

- [24:30] Why it’s okay to not have all the answers

- [26:36] Connecting students to Christ

Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:

- The Case for Christ by Lee Strobel

- Connected with Nicole

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Some biblical higher ed administrations balk at the notion of submitting grant proposals to secular organizations, fearing meddling or conflict with their institutions’ missions.

But Daniel Ruarte, Provost and VP of Academic Affairs at Life Pacific University (LPU), believes several unjustified misconceptions around alignment belie those concerns.

Daniel shares how grants have uplifted LPU’s student programs and how you can get the most out of your school’s written proposals.

Join us as we discuss:

• [6:45] Why persistence pays off in writing grant proposals

• [14:00] Writing grants in-house versus partnering with a third-party

• [23:14] Balancing grant requirements with your school’s mission
  

Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:

• U.S. Department of Education Postsecondary Student Success Grant (PSSG) Program

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Too often, we get wrapped up in furthering our personal mission instead of God’s.

With deadlines to meet, credits to fulfill, and schedules busier than ever, faith and biblical integration can get thrown to the wayside. But faith-based integration in and out of the classroom will better equip the future leaders of tomorrow.

Ready to put on the full armor of God?

We’re getting the ball rolling with Adam Wright, the President of Dallas Baptist University, to see how he and his team are keeping Christ at the center of DBU’s mission.

Join us as we discuss:

• [8:58] The detrimental lack of biblical knowledge in higher ed

• [14:33] Why mission, vision, and values must permeate your campus

• [22:56] Some ABHE accreditation roadblocks
  

Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:

• Dallas Baptist University

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The dreaded two words we hear time and time again: “enrollment cliff.”

Although the enrollment cliff is inevitable, it may be an opportunity for your institution to prove what truly makes it unique.

Even amidst the FAFSA challenges, admissions offices can remain people-focused and show what differentiates your university from the next.

Your institution will not only change a student's life but can change them eternally.

Phil Cook, President of the North American Coalition for Christian Admissions Professionals (NACCAP), shares his perspective on the privilege of working under pressure and what your institution can do to soar instead of sink.

In this episode, we explore the turbulence higher ed admissions teams are facing today.

Join us as we discuss:

• [12:07] Common enrollment office mistakes

• [19:54] Facing new challenges with the FAFSA redesign

• [25:57] Enrollment cliff adjustments schools should be making

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Be it blind arrogance or a lack of accountability, it can be easy for church and academic leaders to allow pride to consume them and to point fingers when they fall.

That’s why Bill Blocker, President of the College of Biblical Studies - Houston, believes the leadership journey should start by understanding that it’s not about you. God doesn’t care how talented you are — only that you’re available to use your gifts to lead and inspire others.   

Bill shares how Christ called him from the legal industry to help equip others and what leading from the front with humility means to him.    

Join us as we discuss:

• Measuring personal success in how you inspire others (6:11)
• What God cares about more than your abilities (11:43)
• Stumbling blocks that Christian leaders need to avoid (18:40) 

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Jason Mitchell, the senior pastor at LCBC (Lives Changed By Christ) Church in Pennsylvania, joins us to discuss the intersection of ministry and biblical higher education.

With decades of pastoral experience, Jason reflects on his transformative journey into ministry, including key moments of personal surrender and vocational discovery. He shares the vital role Christian higher education played in equipping him for leadership while also addressing how institutions can better prepare students for the practical realities of ministry.

Tune in for an engaging conversation about the future of ministry training and the importance of aligning higher education with the church’s mission to make disciples.

Join us as we discuss:

• [1:44] What inspired Jason to minister to Christ’s wayward children

• [12:36] Reflections on formational experiences in pastoral training

• [22:03] Blind spots in biblical higher ed and the value of critical thinking

Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:

• Logos Bible Software

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Jeff Spear, Principal Founder of CFO Colleague, shares his expertise on the financial health of biblical higher education.

With over 25 years of experience as a CFO for faith-based institutions, Jeff offers a sobering analysis of the current challenges facing Christian colleges, including declining enrollment, financial mismanagement, and the need for strategic pivots. He highlights the role of clear value propositions, sustainable budgeting, and local church partnerships in overcoming these hurdles.

Jeff’s insights are a must-listen for leaders navigating the complexities of institutional sustainability.

Join us as we discuss:

• [5:34] Influencing factors in the epidemic of school closings

• [12:16] Schools failing to deliver on their value proposition

• [22:02] Pivoting strategies to align with students’ expectations

• [27:15] Three actionable steps for schools with financial woes
  

Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:

• Sign up for the CFO Colleague newsletter here!

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Strong leaders uplift other aspiring leaders.

That’s why ABHE is committed to growing the skills of faithful leaders, including through a series of leadership development conferences.

We’re joined by David Medders, Executive VP for ABHE, to talk about leadership development programming.

Find out how you can grow alongside other leaders — everyone is welcome!

In this episode, we dive into ABHE leadership development programming and why it’s essential to the growth of our future leaders.

Join us as we discuss:

• [6:26] The ABHE leadership vision 15 years ago vs. today

• [14:16] The 2024-2025 ABHE Conference season

• [28:13] The philosophy of leadership development programming
  

Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:

• Schedule of ABHE Future Conferences

• Academic Leaders Executive Training & Certification

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Jeremiah 17:7 says, “But blessed is the one who trusts in the Lord, whose confidence is in Him.”

In the fast-paced world that college presidents must navigate, it’s hard to be everywhere at once.

We can’t predict the future. Ditching long-range planning and trusting in God’s present plan allows for an opportunity mindset.

Taking time to rest allows for intentionality in showing up where it matters most to your University.

Kicking off our conversation is Roger Parrott, the President of Belhaven University. With over 20 years of presidential experience, Roger wasn’t afraid to kick long-range planning out the door. And now, he wants to help others do the same.

In this episode, we dive into the keys to a successful university presidency.

Join us as we discuss:

• [4:32] The current state of higher ed turbulence

• [16:00] Why you should abandon long-range strategic planning

• [21:39] Taking the critic’s perspective
  

Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:

• The Longview by Roger Parrott

• Opportunity Leadership by Roger Parrott

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Michael Lindsay, President of Taylor University, joins the show to share how the principles of grace and truth guide his leadership, especially in the turbulent times facing Christian higher education.

Michael tells us why he believes the pandemic elevated expectations for the value proposition of biblical higher ed and how Christian leaders can turn these challenges into opportunities. He also provides insights into a successful fundraising campaign for some of Taylor's exciting projects, including community outreach and campus expansions.

Tune in to hear how Taylor University is helping to shape the next generation of Christian leaders through discipleship initiatives.

Join us as we discuss:

• [5:17] Finding the motivation in a college president’s work

• [13:16] How Taylor University is giving back to their community 

• [18:59] Discipleship and seeking counsel from your predecessors
  

Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:

• ABHE 78th Annual Meeting

• Hinge Moments: Making the Most of Life’s Transitions by Michael Lindsay

• Presidential Fellows Program - Taylor University

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Bridging the gap between local churches and Bible Colleges is essential to see success for both sides.

It’s time to invest in the community around our students and come together towards a common goal – serving God.

That’s why we’re talking to Mark Jobe, President of Moody Bible Institute. As a bi-vocational pastor, Mark offers a unique perspective from both sides of the pulpit.

In this episode, we talk about the importance of getting your students and staff involved in the local community.

Join us as we discuss: 

- Tension between the academy and the church (8:00)

- How we can best serve the local church (13:54)

- Ways to connect your institution to surrounding churches (20:49)

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Taking on a higher ed leadership role when an institution is already in a deficit can be a grim prospect. It’s a challenge that requires an adaptive learner who isn’t afraid of forward momentum.

It takes transparency, relationship-building, and honest conversations.

That’s why we’re talking to Frank Weller, President of Great Lakes Christian College. Frank shares how his administration leveraged forward momentum to rally their institution in erasing a significant budget deficit.

Join us as we discuss: 

• [4:00] Keeping a positive mindset when entering a shaken institution

• [9:38] Transitioning from pastor to college president

• [22:40] Leveraging forward momentum to get things done
  

Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:

• Moody Bible Institute
  

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Jessica Lugo, Executive Director for the Association of Hispanic Theological Education (AETH), joins us to explore how theological education can address the growing needs of the Hispanic church.

Jessica shares her journey from seminary student to executive leader, insights on bridging cultural gaps between the church and academy, and the importance of culturally aware leadership in theological education.

Learn about key trends in the Hispanic population, strategies for empowering new leaders, and the role of education in the spiritual growth of Hispanic communities.

Join us as we discuss:

• [8:08] The rising Hispanic population and dispelling its monolithic label

• [13:47] How AETH is helping institutions that are serving Hispanic students 

• [23:09] Going beyond the minimum threshold for HSI-certification
  

Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:

• U.S. Department of Education: Hispanic-Serving Institutions

• Register for ABHE’s 78th Annual Meeting in Orlando, Florida here! 

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A Chief Financial Officer can sometimes make or break an institution.

Therefore, getting to know your CFO’s role and strengthening the lines of communication between a CFO and other team members is critical.

We’re talking to Bruce Hoeker, the Executive Director at the Association of Business Administrators of Christian Colleges (ABACC), about the crucial role CFOs play in an organization and how to strengthen their talents.

In this episode, we break down CFO-related issues in biblical higher ed.

Join us as we discuss:

• [3:51] Biblical higher ed CFO best practices

• [9:11] How CFOs can navigate reporting tough financial burdens

• [19:09] The relationship between a President and CFO

Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:

• Association of Business Administrators of Christian Colleges

• Email Bruce at bruce@myabacc.org

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In today’s higher ed landscape, more and more students are choosing to go to secular colleges and universities. How can educators bridge the gap between Christian K-12 and faith-based higher ed institutions?

One word — relationships.

By investing in relationships with local or national Christian K-12 institutions, the path is established early on for students to give your university a try. We’ve brought in Nate Long, the Head Of School at Lancaster County Christian School to chat about educational trends and the importance of investing in relationships with institutional leaders.

Join us as we discuss: 

• [5:45] What is triggering Christian K-12 enrollment growth

• [12:39] Why a majority of students are choosing secular colleges

• [19:53] The mistake of leaning on transactional, not relational, recruitment

• [25:56] Building relationships with biblical grade school leaders
  

Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:

• Logos Bible Software

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What does it really take to lead a Christian university in today’s complex educational landscape? 

John Mark Yeats, President of Corban University, reflects on his first 18 months as a college president, sharing insights on mentorship, leadership preparation, and the joys of serving in this pivotal role. From his formative years to his unexpected journey to the presidency, he highlights how biblical higher education nurtures holistic growth — academic, spiritual, and personal. 

Tune in for a heartfelt discussion about leadership, service, and the transformative power of Christ-centered education.

Join us as we discuss:

• [7:19] Formational experiences and seeking out learning opportunities

• [12:31] Why a Christian college presidency is a team sport

• [19:53] Finding the joy in investing in your school’s constituents

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Enrollment needs to focus on relational sales with your “customer” — the prospective student.

Personalizing connections and conversations will leave your customers more confident about potentially enrolling in your institution.

That’s why we’ve invited Ryan Dougherty, Principal Partner at TG Three, to talk about all things enrollment, relational sales, and the dreaded enrollment cliff.

In this episode, we break down the steps to enrollment success through personalization.

Join us as we discuss:

• [6:25] Are traditional business terms okay in higher ed?

• [11:30] Training your frontline employees to be ambassadors for your school

• [19:30] Common enrollment department mistakes
  

Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:

• TG Three

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We’re taking the road less traveled from the lower 48 to rural Alaska.

Serving the students from indigenous villages of Alaska takes a focused but mighty mission. Bringing the Word of the Lord, accompanied by college preparation, impacts these individuals for a lifetime by providing a comfortable space for these students to unpack baggage and embrace education.

Keith Hamilton, President of Alaska Christian College, takes us through his journey from being a youth pastor in Colorado to finding his calling in serving the indigenous villages of Alaska.

Join us as we discuss:

• [6:42] The indigenous village experience

• [10:24] Spiritual darkness in rural Alaska

• [16:55] Challenges of a narrow mission

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To celebrate our 50th episode, we’re excited to chat with Aaron Shust, an award-winning Christian songwriter and performer.

In anticipation of his appearance at ABHE’s 2025 Annual Meeting in Orlando, Florida, Aaron joined us to talk about his journey as a professional music artist.

You won’t want to miss this insightful peek into Aaron’s start as a church worship leader, his songwriting process, and his conviction in choosing words that glorify God’s Truth. 

Join us as we discuss:

• [6:37] Aaron’s path to the professional music scene

• [15:22] How life experiences influenced his songwriting process

• [26:17] Discipleship and why Aaron identifies as a “Timothy” 
  

Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:

• www.aaronshust.com

• ABHE Future Annual Meeting Dates

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Optimizing your institution's business model is crucial in the evolving landscape of higher ed.

With a focus on mission alignment and building future influential leaders, some universities have seen big changes. But not every institution is willing to roll up its sleeves and do the hard work.

Re-examining operational efficiencies may be the key to your university sinking or swimming.

We’re kicking off our conversation with David Wright, President Emeritus of Indiana Wesleyan University. With over 30 years of experience in the higher ed sector, David reflects on what can make or break a university.

Join us as we discuss:

• [6:56] Modern higher ed challenges

• [13:20] People-first focus and mission alignment

• [23:35] Knocking down the silos between admin and faculty
  

Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:

• Christian Education Services

• david.wright@ceserv.org

• Sparking Change in the Nonprofit Industry

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Competency-based theological education may seem like a mouthful, but it’s how Jesus trained his disciples.

It’s about radical collaboration and demonstrating understanding.

It challenges you to think differently about learning.

Co-authors Kent Anderson, President of Providence University College and Theological Seminary, and Greg Henson, Lead Partner at Kairos University, get the conversation started on the paradigm shift of CBTE.

In this episode, we delve into the mechanics of competency-based theological education.

Join us as we discuss:

• [5:50] What is CBTE?

• [9:01] Reorganizing the educational approach

• [17:31] Swinging the pendulum fairly

• [19:16] Essential elements to CBTE success
  

Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:

• Theological Education Principles and Practices of a Competency-Based Approach

• Cracking the Credit Hour by Amy Latinen

• kenton.anderson@prov.ca

• ghenson@kairos.edu

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What does courageous leadership in higher education look like?

It’s about utilizing situational styles.

It’s about relying on faith to drive out fear.

It’s time to get real about what it means to be courageous in biblical higher education.

That’s why I’m joined by Todd Williams, President and CEO at Cairn University, a courageous leader who didn’t always envision himself at the forefront of a higher ed institution.

In this episode, we delve into what it means to be a courageous leader.

Join us as we discuss: 

- Different styles of courageous leadership, from positional to situational (5:39)

- The “romance” of leadership and why it can quickly burn out (9:36)

- A historical example of situational leadership in the face of fear (16:41)

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Artificial intelligence is expanding its footprint in our institutions, workplaces, and personal lives.

But how can we, as Christ followers, utilize artificial intelligence in a way that is true to our theology?

In an increasingly secular culture, we must learn how faith, behavior, and artificial intelligence all interact.

James Spencer, President of Useful to God Ministries, navigates the hard truths about AI, its implementation in a biblical way, and ever-changing curricula in higher education.

Join us as we discuss:

• [4:34] Theology and behavior

• [14:32] ChatGPT for Christians

• [20:40] AI creation and curriculum

• [25:34] Student perspectives in a secular world

Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:

• Serpents and Doves, Christian Politics and the Art of Bearing Witness by James Spencer (Coming February 2024)

• thejamesspencer.com 

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Honesty is always the best policy. Are you being honest about the capabilities of your institution?

The time is now for colleges and universities to start having authentic conversations about institutional capacity.

We’re getting the conversation started with Ricardo Azziz, Director at The Center for Higher Ed Mergers & Acquisitions. If you aren’t discussing merging as part of a potential strategic plan, Ricardo is here to help.

In this episode, we get real about institutional limitations and expectations.

Join us as we discuss:

- Public perceptions of higher ed’s value (10:06)

- Increasing consumer expectations (15:16)

- School mergers and acquisitions (24:02)

Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:

- contact@foundation-free.org

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The book of Jude is one of the smallest chapters in the New Testament — but it actually packs more punch than you think.

We’re talking with Andy Miller, the President of Wesley Biblical Seminary, about this mighty little chapter. He literally wrote a book on it — Contender: Going Deeper in the Book of Jude.

In this episode, we explore the book of Jude and how it translates into our current social landscape with its modern-day messaging.

Join us as we discuss: 

• [5:51] Why Andy studied the book of Jude

• [16:31] How God knew we’d need Jude 2,000 years later

• [27:06] What Jude means to higher ed professionals
  

Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:

• Contender: Going Deeper in the Book of Jude by Andy Miller

• Moody Bible Institute

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There are many lessons that biblical higher education schools can learn from the business world to become better and more competitive.

The top law schools are always in demand because they deliver a great product that the market wants. What if we thought about biblical higher education that way?

What if schools developed a value proposition where they said that their graduates would be the most skilled, most ethical, and the most competent church ministry leaders?

We talk to Gina Cox, who started her career as a lawyer before transitioning to biblical higher education. Gina elaborates on the lessons she brought into her role at Highlands College from the business world and why she feels that honesty, adaptability, and agility are paramount to furthering the cause of advancing the kingdom.

Join us as we discuss:

- Gina’s transition from law into biblical higher education (07:10)

- The uniqueness of being a woman in a leadership position in biblical higher education (13:15)

- Three lessons from the business world that should be applied to biblical higher education (20:30) 

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Michael Ortiz, the Executive Director of The International Council for Evangelical Theological Education (ICETE), joins the show to discuss current and future developments in global theological education.

Michael unpacks the expanding role of non-formal pastoral training programs, connecting formal and non-formal education sectors, and the importance of global partnerships in equipping the next generation of church leaders.

Learn how biblical higher ed institutions can engage with the broader global church and how your organization can contribute to the advancement of theological education worldwide.

Join us as we discuss:

• [5:02] ICETE’s mission to help facilitate global pastoral training

• [16:32] Connecting formal and nonformal training programs worldwide

• [26:32] Opportunities for developing best practices for theological education
  

Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:

• Register for C-25 in Tirana, Albania (March 3, 2025 - March 7, 2025)

• GACX

• Missio Nexus

• World Evangelical Alliance

• Lausanne

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You may be able to describe a scripture passage, but have you actually sat down to read and digest it?

When was the last time you devoted uninterrupted time to God’s Word?

Public reading of scripture (PRS) is designed to help you do just that – reconnect with God’s word through small group readings.

Step into the intentional public reading of scripture with the Managing Director at The Grace and Mercy Foundation, Dan Sanford, on this week's episode of Biblical Higher Ed Talk.

Join us as we discuss: 

• [8:39] What to expect at a PRS meeting

• [15:28] How PRS helps to cut through distractions

• [21:12] Empowering PRS statistics

• [27:27] A PRS success story
  

Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:

• ABHE PRS

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In this episode, we explore how the work college model is redefining holistic education at Kuyper College in Grand Rapids, MI. 

President Patti Harris discusses how integrating learning, work, and service cultivates a student experience rooted in Christian principles that exemplify dignity and respect. 

Learn about the unique challenges, intentional practices, and lasting impacts of this model that aligns work with faith, fostering personal and professional growth.

Join us as we discuss:

• [5:17] Kuyper’s inspiration in pursuing the work college model

• [12:55] Incorporating work into a holistic learning experience

• [20:53] Three important work college values in Christian higher ed

Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:

• Every Good Endeavor by Timothy Keller

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Psalms 34:4 states, “I sought the Lord, and He heard me and delivered me from all my fears.”

Entrepreneurial leadership takes faith to overcome obstacles.

Trusting that God will be there to answer prayers will allow His will to be done through you.

Allowing God to take a front seat in your life will lead you down the right path, and allow others to grow alongside you.

Darren Campbell, the CEO at Slingshot and CampusEdu, didn’t believe he could ever attend college until God answered his family's prayers. Darren is all about seasoning some gospel into every conversation.

In this episode, we discuss entrepreneurial leadership with faith.

Join us as we discuss: 

- [5:06] Is entrepreneurial leadership different?

- [10:52] Engaging fear

- [18:03] Three key business principles

- [26:00] AI disruptions in higher education

Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:

- CampusEdu 

- Slingshot

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Have you ever heard the expression “there’s plenty of fish in the sea?” The same can be said when it comes to marketing in higher education.

But how do you know when it’s time to get deliberate with your marketing strategy? Grab your fishing pole and find out.

We are joined by Bart Caylor, President and founder of Caylor Solutions. With over two decades of experience at Caylor Solutions, Bart knows how to navigate the sea of higher education marketing.

In this episode, we delve into the key aspects of crafting a successful marketing strategy.

Join us as we discuss: 

- The “greatest secret” in higher ed marketing (8:02)

- Two common key faults in marketing strategies (15:28)

- AI and its role in marketing at higher education institutions (21:29)

- Three steps to being intentional with your student-centric marketing (26:54)

Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:

- The Higher Ed Marketer Podcast with Bart Caylor and Troy Singer
- “This is Marketing” by Seth Godin

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Theological education, seminaries, and leadership – Oh, my!

We’re digging into what theological education does well and some challenges the system is currently facing.

While some institutions have been able to pivot and expand, others are experiencing leadership challenges and mental health resource deficiencies.

That’s why we’re talking to Amy Kardash, President of In Trust Center for Theological Schools. Amy brings her unique insights into theological education to the forefront of our conversation.

Join us as we discuss:

• [3:12] High points in the current state of theological education

• [8:00] What challenges seminaries are facing today

• [17:00] The essential link between churches and seminaries

• [23:21] Differentiating formal and non-formal theological education
  

Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:

• Lilly Endowment's Pathways for Tomorrow

• In Trust

• akardash@intrust.org

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Having a strong faith and relationship with God are topics that continue to be at the front and center of biblical higher education.

Students need to be able to process what is happening around them and then go back to the Word to understand what God’s will truly is.

How can they do this? How can Christian institutions prepare them for a better future that is kingdom-focused?

Former Second Lady of the United States, Karen Pence, joins us to talk about how people should put the Lord at the core of everything they do.

Karen also shares some of the greatest challenges she faced, how she turned insecurities into opportunities, and why she believes students need a biblical worldview.

Join us as we discuss:

- How Karen navigated insecurities and turned them into a strength (11:32)

- Which cause that Karen advocated for had the most impact on her (18:07)

- Karen’s advice to the audience on answering God's call (23:08)

Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:

- When It's Your Turn to Serve: Experiencing God's Grace in His Calling for Your Life
- Immanuel Christian School

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The core ethos of biblical higher ed institutions is grounded in God’s Word, accepting its authority as final.

But Dave Medders, Executive Vice President here at the Association for Biblical Higher Education, cautions that the world’s expectations can sometimes cloud that ethos. That’s why leaders must keep their relationship with Christ fresh so as not to let personal successes define their worth and lose sight of their mission.

Dave joins the show to talk about what must comprise modern biblical higher education’s ethos and why he believes future institutions will flourish because of it.

Join us as we discuss:

• Why confidence in the authority of God’s Word is critical to our ethos (5:39)
• What “good” things can erode our core ethos (14:00)
• Predicting a positive future for biblical higher ed institutions (23:51)

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Gary Stratton, the Dean of Arts & Sciences at Johnson University, has a burning passion for discipleship in biblical higher ed classrooms.

Drawing from the profound relationship between Jesus and His apostles, Gary articulates why educators should embody the principles of discipleship and community in their interactions with students. The author of The Jesus Climb: Journeying From Student to Disciple emphasizes the importance of spiritual mentorship in transforming the lives of students during their critical formative years.

Join us as we explore how integrating discipleship into biblical higher ed settings can profoundly impact students' spiritual and personal growth.

Join us as we discuss:

• [4:05] What fueled Gary’s passion for biblical higher ed discipleship

• [11:38] The dangers of ineffective or misguided discipleship

• [21:50] Well-intended obstacles to healthy student discipleship
  

Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:

• The Jesus Climb: Journeying From Student to Disciple

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People are craving authenticity more than ever, especially your prospective Gen Alpha and Gen Z students.

That’s why we’re chatting with Rodney Garber, the President Visionary of Activate Your Influence, about the necessity of executive coaching for businesses and university personnel.

If you’re feeling burnt out, stuck, or even notice yourself getting short-tempered – it may be time to turn to executive coaching. Even if you’re just looking to get a leg up in your everyday routine, coaching may be a great step for you.

The hats are off in this episode as we break down executive coaching and its many benefits. 

Join us as we discuss: 

• [9:39] The top three challenges small businesses and organizations face

• [14:41] Listening to God’s guidance in our lives

• [21:36] How individuals can navigate the sacred-secular divide

• [26:40] Why hesitant leaders should give executive coaching a chance
  

Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:

• Opportunity Leadership: Stop Planning and Start Getting Results by Roger Parrott

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The Lord works in mysterious ways, and we are all a part of His plan.

The story of Lisa Beatty is a perfect example of how He has guided those who strive for the advancement of the kingdom.

Lisa started her career in music and, after a health crisis, transitioned into the world of accreditation for biblical higher education schools.

In this conversation, Lisa pulls back the curtain on her role as the Executive Director of ABHE’s Commission on Accreditation and helps to unpack the many layers of complexity that go into the accreditation process. She also talks to us about her experience transitioning into the role, and what she thinks accreditation will look like in the years to come.

Join us as we discuss:

- A defining moment in Lisa’s life (01:32)

- How the process of accreditation works (07:29)

- What accreditation will look like 20 years from now (31:38)

Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:

- Council for Higher Education Accreditation (CHEA) 

- National Advisory Committee on Institutional Quality and Integrity (NACIQI)

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Anxiety can feel like it's crashing down on us from all directions.

Technology running our lives, deadlines looming overhead, and so much more...

Cutting through the noise and pointing anxiety in the direction of God will lessen the burden we too often place on ourselves.

Anxiety is not something we have to face alone.

Alan Fadling, the founder and President of Unhurried Living, takes us through anxiety acceptance and management in a Christ-centric way.

In this episode, we deconstruct and reframe living with anxiety.

Join us as we discuss:

• [9:07] Technological anxiety

• [17:07] Dependency and surrender

• [25:09] Anxiety on college campuses
  

Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:

• A Non Anxious Life by Alan Fadling

• www.unhurriedliving.com 

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Your employees make up the total package of your organization. Isn’t it time to present them with the total package, too?

By giving your employees relevant insurance options, detailing the extent of their packages, and helping them to become conscious consumers, you’re setting your staff up for success.

That’s why we’re talking to John Staub, the Director of Growth Marketing at Remodel Health. John details the do’s and don’ts of employee benefits compensation in higher ed today.

Join us as we discuss: 

• [5:49] Uniqueness of insurance in biblical higher ed

• [10:42] Understanding the needs of your employee population

• [17:17] New pieces of health insurance litigation in the U.S.

• [25:06] The top three higher ed health insurance mistakes
  

Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:

• john.staub@remodelhealth.com

• Remodel Health

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There was a time when college and university presidents used to boast lengthy terms of service. But today, most leave the position after five to seven years.

Higher ed leaders are burning out.  A major contributor to this systemic problem is often a lapse in effective board governance.

After faithfully serving in several leadership roles, including as president of three major Christian universities, Dave Gyertson coaches many presidents who question their calling to lead Christian institutions. Dave talks about why boards need to be good stewards of their presidents and monitor their health as well as their performance.

Join us as we discuss:

- The need for boards to set parameters and guide their presidents (10:45)

- The scope of new challenges college presidents face today (14:57)

- Why boards need to monitor the president’s health (19:07)

Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:

- ABHE Board Governance Training 

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The rise of anxiety and depression among college students has reached alarming levels in biblical higher education.

In this episode, we speak with Dr. Ryan Kuehner, Clinical Psychologist and Founder of Truman Counseling Services, about addressing these challenges. Dr. Kuehner explores the top contributors to student mental health struggles, the impact of social media and the pandemic, and the importance of leadership in normalizing therapy on campus. 

Learn actionable steps to foster a supportive environment for students while maintaining a Christ-centered approach to mental wellness.

Join us as we discuss:

• [6:31] Contributing factors to anxiety and depression in biblical higher ed

• [13:02] Finding the balance between discipleship and counseling

• [22:56] Guiding faculty in navigating their students’ mental health concerns 
  

Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:

• Logos Bible Software

• Ketamine Institute of Michigan

• Why Do Christians Shoot Their Wounded?by Dwight L. Carlson
  

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Welcome to the 2024 Biblical Higher Ed Talk Christmas Special!

This year, we are joined by several members of Team ABHE to hear all about their Christmas traditions, memories, and what the celebration of Christ’s birth means to them.

So grab some hot cocoa and settle in — but don’t take a long winter’s nap just yet because you won’t want to miss this holiday fun!

Join us as we discuss: 

• [2:04] Team ABHE's favorite Christmas memories

• [10:55] Favorite Christmas movies and family traditions

• [18:31] The great Christmas tree debate - real versus fake!

• [23:55] The most meaningful aspect of the Christmas season
  

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How does a biblical institution get founded?

It takes curious minds ready to lead, ready to invest, and ready to ask even the toughest questions.

It’s about building a legacy and empowering future students to fall further in love with Jesus.

Former collegiate football coach, Connor Champion, President at Austin Christian University, took the call to build that legacy.

In this episode, we discover what it takes to create a higher education institution.

Join us as we discuss: 

- [6:11] How chaos creates opportunity

- [11:57] Building a foundation for a university

- [15:28] Rewards and challenges of founding an institution

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The pandemic spotlighted the alarming rise of social disconnection and loneliness among today's college and university students.

Todd Hall, Founder and CEO of Flourishing Metrics and Professor of Psychology at Biola University, believes there is a direct correlation between our current state of spirituality and this human relationship crisis. He fears many biblical higher ed institutions are failing to impart relational knowledge to our leaders of tomorrow — and that oversight could have unintended consequences.

In this episode, Todd shares his incredible insights into what role psychology and human connections play in our spiritual growth.

Join us as we discuss:

• [8:45] The good, bad, and ugly truth about spirituality today

• [16:52] How attachment relationships impact our connection to God

• [22:38] Why schools need to start focusing on relational knowledge
  

Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:

• The Connected Life by Todd Hall

• Psychology in the Spirit by John Coe and Todd Hall

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Before 2020, only three percent of American high school graduates participated in gap year programs. But that number doubled during the pandemic as young Christian adults sought answers in their spiritual journey.

Josh Beers, President of OneLife, has seen both sides of the high school post-graduate coin as a former enrollment officer. He thinks gap year programs will continue to flourish as a value-add for future students who want to kickstart their life experience.

You won’t want to miss this insightful interview as Josh breaks down how gap year programs can elevate young adults and give them a leg up in their college careers.

Join us as we discuss:

- How the pandemic positively impacted American gap year programs (4:24)

- Differentiating gap year outcomes from a traditional freshman year (11:56)

- A peek behind the curtain of how gap year programs operate (16:27)

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From the battlefields in Ukraine to American prisons, chaplains are in high demand.

That’s why our guest James Kirkland, the Executive Director of Christian Chaplains & Coaching, believes chaplains will eventually become the preeminent ambassadors of the mission community.

In this episode, we dive into the chaplain experience and break down how someone can become mission-fit in response to God’s call. 

Join us as we discuss: 

• [7:38] Chaplaincy history in North America

• [14:31] Heeding God’s call and the path to chaplaincy

• [21:19] Options for colleges looking to start a chaplaincy program

• [25:17] The top challenges facing chaplains today
  

Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:

• Moody Bible Institute

• Billy Graham Rapid Response Team

• Samaritan’s Purse

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AI is transforming the way ministry leaders and educators approach their work, but it comes with opportunities and challenges.

In this episode, Mark Barnes, Principal Product Manager at Logos Bible Software, joins us to explore the integration of AI in theological education and ministry contexts. Mark shares how institutions and pastors can responsibly leverage AI tools like Logos and ChatGPT for sermon preparation, theological insights, and administrative efficiency.

With decades of experience bridging technology and ministry, Mark offers practical advice for navigating ethical concerns and embracing innovation without compromising faith. Don't miss this thought-provoking discussion on the future of biblical higher education.

Join us as we discuss:

• [9:59] The use of AI tools in theological education and ministry

• [17:11] Ethical and moral issues related to the use of AI

• [21:20] How Logos is implementing AI into their software platform
  

Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:

• Logos Bible Software

• Logos Smart Search

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With five decades of higher ed administrative experience, John Derry, President Emeritus of Hope International University, has experienced many highs and lows in dealing with biblical higher ed board governance.

Recently, ABHE has been blessed to have John as a coach in our board governance training program.

Tune in to this episode to hear John break down some common warning signs of ineffective boards and how higher ed administrations can ensure buy-in from their trustees.

Join us as we discuss:

• [4:46] Three critical board governance mistakes

• [14:24] What distinguishes higher ed boards from other industries

• [23:39] Practical tips for effective board governance
  

Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:

• ABHE Board Governance Training

• Experiencing God Bible Study Book by Henry Blackaby

• M.J. Murdock Charitable Trust

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Kindergarten through 12th grade Christian education is seeing a decline in America.

Is it simply student enrollment? Is it an education quality issue? Is it due to inflation?

There are a variety of factors we can analyze, but it all comes down to remembering our mission: service.

We have to embrace the mission of Christ, who served before us, in order to effectively serve the students in our community.

With over 50 years of experience, Simon Jeynes, the Executive Director at Christian School Management, brings us up to speed on what's going on in K-12 Christian institutions.

In this episode, we delve into the evolving education environment.

Join us as we discuss:

• [4:42] The current state of K-12 education

• [7:34] Reasons for the decline

• [10:13] Top three common Christian education mistakes

• [21:09] Why fewer students are choosing Christian higher ed

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What does it mean to be a follower?

In a world obsessed with leadership, being a faithful follower is crucial.

Christ faithfully followed through on His Father's call. If Jesus can do it, so can you.

That’s why we’re talking to Joanne Jung, Associate Dean of Online Education and Student-Faculty Engagement, Talbot School of Theology - Biola University. With co-author Richard Langer, Jung explores what it means to hear Jesus in a culture obsessed with leadership in their book, The Call to Follow.

In this episode, we dive into the essentials of faithful followership.

Join us as we discuss: 

- Society’s obsession with leadership (9:24)

- Theological roots of being a follower (13:00)

- Demystifying followership stereotypes (20:31)

- The rewards of being a follower (24:27)

Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:

- The Call to Follow  

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Effective academic leadership doesn’t have a specific outline.

But knowing your institution's mission and sticking to it is the first place to start.

Knowing your own strengths and weaknesses as a leader and being able to lean on a team for support to fill in the gaps is critical.

There’s no limit to who can be a leader. It’s about being the best leader for your institution.

Getting our conversation started is Meghan Griffin, Provost and Chief Academic Officer at Southeastern University. Meghan shares how trusting in God’s plan helped her become an effective leader for her school.

In this episode, we explore effective leadership strategies.

Join us as we discuss:

• [9:46] CAO faculty hiring process

• [16:26] Understanding your institution’s culture

• [19:21] How SEU is approaching AI tools

• [25:51] Women in theological leadership
  

Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:

• SEU AI Assistance Policy

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Leadership and professional experience are two key career aspects that never really leave the horizon.

It’s crucial to further enhance leadership skills during ministry preparation and even way beyond. 

Lacking proper leadership skills can often cause other issues in personal, professional, and organizational relationships.

Building proper leaders takes guts.

That’s why we’re talking to David Ashcraft, the CEO and President of Global Leadership Network. By hosting summits and providing learning opportunities, David and GLN are preparing the leaders of tomorrow.

In this episode, we explore leadership and the necessity of practical experience.

Join us as we discuss:

• [6:48] Ministry preps’ current state

• [14:09] Why practical experience is essential

• [15:27] Managing expectations

• [22:38] The importance of continuing education
  

Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:

• Team365

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Stephen Nichols, President of Reformation Bible College, talks about how his journey from classroom professor to institutional leader shaped his educational philosophy.

He discusses the intentional design of RBC’s curriculum, blending theology and the liberal arts, and how their unique house system fosters community and discipleship. Stephen offers insights into balancing growth with mission fidelity and the importance of being faithful in both education and leadership.

This episode is packed with inspiration for leaders navigating the complexities of biblical higher education curriculums.

Join us as we discuss:

• [8:35] The transition from classroom professor to college president

• [16:14] How a hyper-focused curriculum impacts student life

• [20:34] Why capping enrollment builds community and accountability
  

Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:

• Logos Bible Software

• Uptime: A Practical Guide to Personal Productivity and Wellbeing by Laura Mae Martin

• Ligonier Ministries

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Carlo Serrano, President of Manna University and a U.S. Army veteran, shares how his military background has shaped his leadership in biblical higher education.

Carlo discusses the importance of understanding military culture for student recruitment and retention in higher education and how integrating that experience can enhance institutional leadership and student success.

Join us as Carlo offers valuable insights into aligning the military mindset with the mission of biblical higher education.

Join us as we discuss:

• [4:23] Reflecting on the introductory year as a university president

• [14:14] Recruiting active servicemembers in biblical higher ed

• [19:35] How schools can better support military students and veterans
  

Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:

• About GI Bill Benefits
  

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So you want to start your own Christian university?

Through creating connections with churches, we can build future leaders by providing them with an avenue of opportunity to learn and grow their faith.

Providing a degree of value can accelerate growth for potential ministry leaders and further grow God’s kingdom.

With over 30 years of experience in the K–12 sector, Steve Whitaker, the Head of School at The First Academy, decided to answer the call to open a Christian university. Steve was not alone in his journey, and now he wants to help others who feel called to do the same.

In this episode, we delve into what it takes to open a Christian university.

Join us as we discuss:

• [7:32] The K-12 to college pipeline

• [10:46] Building recruitment relationships

• [21:58] Creating something of value
  

Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:

• stevewhitaker@thefirstacademy.org

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Whether in the classroom, the dining hall, on the court, or in the dorms, integrating faith with intentionality can happen anywhere on a college campus.

Starting small and remaining intentional with a Christ-centered focus may be tough at first, but you don’t have to be a scholar to find support and share the word of God.

We’re joined by David Cook & Brent Thomason, the Co-authors of Integrating Faith and Learning: Case Studies from Dallas Baptist University, a study on faith integration across all the areas of college campuses.

Join us as we discuss:

• [6:28] Why David and Brent saw a need for the book

• [9:50] Why biblical integration seems so tough

• [16:32] Taking faith beyond the classroom

• [23:38] Fighting against mission drift
  

Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:

• Integrating Faith and Learning: Case Studies from Dallas Baptist University

  
  

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David Hoag, President of the Council for Christian Colleges & Universities (CCCU), joins us to share his vision for the future of Christian higher education.

From addressing the challenges of membership growth to fostering leadership and spiritual formation, David explains the three priorities guiding his presidency — strengthening membership, nurturing leadership, and advocating for religious freedoms on Capitol Hill.

David also offers insights into advocacy, spiritual mentorship, and preparing Christian colleges to thrive in a rapidly changing higher ed outlook.

Join us as we discuss:

• [5:04] The three pillars of CCCU’s vision for their members

• [17:08] Government relationships and finding champions for your institution 

• [24:04] The enrollment cliff and the future of biblical higher ed 
  

Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:

• Logos Bible Software

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Doug Clay, General Superintendent of the General Council of the Assemblies of God, joins the show to discuss the vital role of discipleship in biblical higher education and the broader church community. 

Drawing from his journey as a third-generation Pentecostal preacher’s kid to leading a global denomination, Doug shares how defining moments and the local church shaped his ministry. He talks about the importance of investing in young leaders, differentiating between calling and assignment, and cultivating healthy, Christ-centered communities. 

Learn about navigating cultural turbulence, building future-ready leadership, and advancing discipleship that transforms lives.

Join us as we discuss:

• [5:37] How culture outlines the need for a healthy, Bible-centered church

• [11:43] The difference between God’s calling and assignment

• [19:19] Reverse-mentorship and pre-Christian friends relationships
  

Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:

• Moody Bible Institute

• The Myth of the Dying Church by Glenn T. Stanton

• ABHE 78th Annual Meeting Registration

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Welcome to Biblical Higher Ed Talk

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Saying the words “finances” or “alternative revenue” can sometimes make individuals in your institution run for the hills.

Higher ed professionals need to take the pressure away from these conversations to allow for untapped innovation. Having the patience to explain a financial statement or an audit sheet can tear down the all-too-common silos around financial situations.

That’s why we’re talking with Dave Moja of Moja & Company. As a veteran CPA and member of the AICPA’s Not-for-Profit Advisory Council, Dave provides insight into how to truly unlock your school's financial potential.

In this episode, we dive into the world of higher ed finances.

Join us as we discuss:

• [7:56] Post-Covid spending trends and squandered opportunities

• [13:55] Three common financial mistakes higher ed institutions make

• [19:18] A bit of good news amidst stark financial realities

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The average tenure of a college president at ABHE institutions is steadily declining, now averaging just 7.2 years — far from the decades-long leadership of past generations. Why is this happening, and what does it mean for the future of biblical higher education?

Matt Pinson, President of Welch College, shares his perspective as an exceptional long-term leader who has served for over 20 years. He reflects on the challenges of presidential longevity, the shifting landscape of higher ed leadership, and the key lessons he’s learned along the way. 

From hiring and faculty relations to balancing institutional change with stability, Matt offers wisdom for current and aspiring leaders navigating today’s fast-changing environment.

Join us as we discuss:

• [10:41] Realistic leadership expectations and adopting an evolutionary mindset

• [20:56] People management and dealing with hiring pressures

• [25:30] Family and the work-life balance in higher ed leadership

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God commanded in Joshua 1:9, “Be strong and courageous. Do not be afraid; do not be discouraged, for the LORD your God will be with you wherever you go.”

To be able to build bridges in our institutions, we need to be strong and courageous, just as Christ was.

Being confident allows others to find their own strength and grow into the next university leader, pastor, or humble servant.

Staying assured of what we’re providing to the world allows the light of Christ to shine through us.

That’s why we’re chatting with Shirley Hoogstra, President of the Council for Christian Colleges & Universities (CCCU). With an upcoming retirement after ten years in leadership at CCCU, Shirley shares her wisdom to empower the next generation of problem solvers and bridge builders.

In this episode, we dive into the highs and lows of the Christian Higher Ed landscape.

Join us as we discuss:

• [6:48] A look back at the last ten years of biblical higher ed

• [15:18] Today’s Christian Higher Ed challenges

• [21:52] The tough role of university president

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Peter Teague, a seasoned leader with over 50 years in Christian education, joins us to share valuable insights from his leadership journey.

The President Emeritus of Lancaster Bible College reflects on his career, discussing pivotal moments, the importance of being student-centered, and the challenges of maintaining a work-life balance.

We also talk about Peter’s latest book, Jesus Leader, which explores the core traits of effective leadership modeled after Christ.

Join us as we discuss:

• [1:07] How a devastating fire rallied and strengthened a community

• [7:55] Prioritizing your students’ welfare over bureaucracy

• [18:30] Why presidents should conduct faculty interviews

• [25:27] Advice for aspiring leaders from a lifelong learner
  

Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:

• Jesus Leader: Living, Loving, and Leading in the Steps of the Savior

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The American political ecosystem has been rife with uncertainty since the pandemic, and private higher education institutions have felt the ripples of tightening government regulations.

That’s why Barbara Mistick, President of the National Association of Independent Colleges and Universities (NAICU), argues schools need to start sharing student stories with elected officials. Barbara believes that once lawmakers see how their decisions are directly impacting students and their families, we’ll see more positive outcomes for private higher education.

You won’t want to miss this enlightening conversation around government agency relationships and the state of American private higher education.

Join us as we discuss:

• [5:20] Challenges and opportunities in private higher education today

• [14:09] Fostering relationships with government agencies

• [22:36] Addressing negative public sentiment towards higher ed
  

Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:

• College Cost Transparency Initiative

• Gallup Study on Public Opinion of American Higher Education

• 2024 Gallup Poll Results

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Welcome to the ABHE Biblical HigherEd Talk Christmas Special!

Get to know your ABHE team through a series of lightning-round questions and a retelling of the Christmas story – an ABHE tradition.

In this light-hearted episode, we have some fun by exploring each other's favorite Christmas traditions.

From Lisa Beatty, Carol Dibble, Dave Medders, and all of us at the Biblical HigherEd Talk podcast, we wish you Merry Christmas!

Join us as we discuss: 

- Childhood Christmas memories [1:12] 

- ABHE Christmas favorites [7:25] 

- The most meaningful aspects of Christmas [21:19] 

- The Christmas story tradition [28:38]

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After a steady rise during the 2010s, the podcast industry exploded during the pandemic. As of 2024, over 5 million podcasts populate the global airwaves.

So is there room in the audio space for your faith-based school or organization to use this platform to get your message out to the masses? Robb Conlon, Founder of Westport Studios, believes there is. You simply have to be mindful of your niche, respect your audience, and remember that relationships are your most prized commodity.

In this episode, our friend and partner shared some tips and tricks for aspiring hosts who may be thinking about taking their messaging to the podcasting space.

Join us as we discuss:

• [8:24] A brief history of the rise of podcasting

• [16:09] The potential benefits of a B2B podcast

• [25:00] Some do’s and don'ts for rookie podcast hosts
  

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In an age where we constantly have our eyes glued to our phones, what is more valuable than human interaction? 

Potential students want you to be different and personable – they need you to be.

Acting intentionally with a student-first mindset may set you apart from the competition.

And with the enrollment cliff on the horizon, we have to be on our A-game. 

We’re getting the ball rolling with Nathan Alexander, President for Partner Relations at Clark Higher Ed, to give you tips and tricks on how to nail your recruitment and enrollment processes. 

In this episode, we delve into a student-first admissions process.

Join us as we discuss:

• [3:34] Top three recent admissions changes

• [11:37] Transaction and personal recruitment

• [19:30] Top three admissions mistakes

• [25:53] The dreaded enrollment cliff

Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:

• Nathan’s email

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Adam Porcella, Senior Vice President and Provost at Cairn University, shares his insights on how faculty recruitment directly impacts institutional success and mission alignment. 

Drawing from his research and leadership experience, Adam outlines strategies for identifying candidates who embody your institution’s faith-based mission while excelling in their academic disciplines. 

Tune in as we explore practical approaches to fostering a community of faithful scholars who inspire and mentor students.

Join us as we discuss:

• [2:28] How institutional leaders can directly impact the student experience 

• [8:21] Conclusions from a qualitative study on mission-fit faculty hiring

• [17:22] The need for professors to love their students and be good mentors

• [24:03] Who should have oversight in hiring and developing new faculty

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Most people conjure a first impression within seconds. That's why having unparalleled hospitality is essential to institutional success.

The keys to successful hospitality are creativity in trying new ideas, intentionality in planning, and reliance on spiritual gifts.

We’re joined by Carol Dibble, the Chief of Staff & Director of Communications at ABHE. For over 25 years, Carol has been dedicated to hospitality and service within the ABHE community. She shares some of her tips and tricks for how you can nail your next event.

Join us as we discuss: 

• [9:40] Why excellent hospitality should be emphasized

• [12:55] Top three key elements to successful hospitality

• [19:55] The top three hospitality mistakes

• [22:07] ABHE Weber Center rehab
  

Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:

• ABHE Weber Center

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Leadership care in Christian institutions is moving to the forefront of higher ed culture.

According to Michael Martin, President of the Evangelical Council for Financial Accountability (ECFA), 94% of their members said leadership issues are having a negative impact on trust in their organizations.

That’s why ECFA has developed a new accreditation standard that monitors the well-being and accountability of school leadership. Michael shares how the new standard will affect member institutions and why boards must lean on their collective spiritual gifts to empower their leaders by monitoring their health and integrity.

Join us as we discuss:

• [5:53] ECFA’s mission to elevate trust in Christian organizations

• [13:08] How ECFA develops new higher ed accreditation standards

• [26:06] Keeping institutions accountable in leadership care
  

Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:

• ECFA Standards

• Behind the Seal Podcast

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The seminary education landscape has changed considerably, but its focus has not. The ultimate goal continues to be training church ministry leaders.

What has changed is the definition of seminary education. Many students want to go deeper in their theological and biblical knowledge without necessarily a degree or ordination.

What will the future hold? How can biblical institutions meet their students where they are and adapt accordingly?

After completing an overseas tenure in Haiti, Matt Ayars, President at Wesley Biblical Seminary, talks to us about how seminary education needs to change in order to flourish. Matt elaborates on what he believes the challenges and opportunities are, and why it’s important for seminaries to teach their students how to think theologically.

Join us as we discuss:

- The focus of seminary education and what has changed (06:13)

- The top challenges that seminaries face today and the opportunities (14:04)

- What seminaries will look like 20 years from now (23:02)

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Many biblical higher ed institutions measure success in several different ways.

For Stark College & Seminary, success is reflected in three key areas: building and serving your external network, having diverse leadership, and utilizing a data dashboard.

Stark’s president, Tony Celelli, breaks down Stark’s internal processes that help them stay student-oriented and mission-focused.

Join us as we discuss: 

• [9:00] Building your external leadership network

• [13:06] Title IV and FAFSA funding

• [16:11] Intentionally building a leadership team

• [24:02] Leveraging data in decision-making
  

Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:

• Moody Bible Institute

• The Ideal Team Player: How to Recognize and Cultivate The Three Essential Virtues by Patrick Lencioni

• The Stark Difference Podcast

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Leaders, how many women did you see the last time you looked around a room full of Christian college presidents and provosts?

Historically, biblical higher education has been dominated by male leadership.

In recent years, many institutions and organizations have made diversity in leadership an intentional focus of their missions. But Jena Dunn, Provost at Stark College and Seminary, believes what women really need are true advocates who will champion the female leaders of tomorrow.

Jena unpacks her 15-plus years of higher ed experience as we explore the shortfall of female leadership in Christian colleges and universities.

Join us as we discuss:

- Why discipleship is the most rewarding leadership experience (5:40)

- Walking the road of humility as a female leader (10:52)

- The importance of diversity in leadership teams (15:49)

Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:

- ABHE Commission on Accreditation

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After 30 years behind the pulpit before transitioning to higher ed, President Michael Pawelke of Briercrest College and Seminary shares his experiences from 11 years as a college president.

We talk through brand clarification and what it’s like to implement intense transformation in an institution, such as a name change or program reductions.

Our conversation also dives into what it means to be a leader, fiscal responsibility, and how to find your own foundation and character.

Join us as we discuss: 

• [3:41] Higher ed in the United States versus Canada

• [12:49] Leading a college through significant change

• [18:09] How to avoid mission drift on your campus

• [23:07] Transferable skills from pastoral duties to a college presidency

Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:

• Moody Bible Institute

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Fundraising is often considered the elephant in the room of Higher Education.

But why do we avoid the subject like it's taboo?

It’s time to put the fun in fundraising and improve the donor experience.

That’s why we’re talking to Brad Layland, CEO at The FOCUS Group. He literally wrote the book on it — Turning Donors into Partners.

In this episode, we deconstruct the fundraising dance.

Join us as we discuss: 

- [9:09] How fundraising builds community

- [11:07] When fundraising gets awkward

- [14:36] Building authentic donor relationships

- [21:54] Three fatal mistakes when approaching fundraising

Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:

- The FOCUS Group

- Turning Donors into Partners

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Transitions in leadership are a critical moment for any organization, and in biblical higher education, they carry unique challenges and opportunities.

Bryce Ashlin-Mayo, President of Ambrose University in Calgary, Alberta, joins us to reflect on his journey from pastoral ministry to academia and now to university leadership. Bryce shares how God guided him through unexpected transitions, lessons from his first six months as president, and strategies for leading through complexity while maintaining a servant’s heart.

Whether you’re a current leader or aspiring to step into a leadership role in biblical higher ed, this episode offers wisdom on endurance, faith, and embracing God’s call.

Join us as we discuss:

• [5:10] Seeking validation and confronting self-doubt in a new leadership role

• [11:17] The nuanced nature of the loneliness that comes with leadership

• [16:43] Unexpected gaps in a typical university president transition

Check out these resources we mentioned during the podcast:

• Logos Bible Software

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