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28 Mar 2021#3 - Why We Cook Ancestrally01:05:36

"I follow the river of joy, curiosity and passion. That's what has moved me into a place where cooking ancestrally is part of my life"

Why do we cook ancestrally?

We try to answer that question in this, our third episode.

We cover:

  • What cooking ancestrally means to us.
  • Why we cook ancestrally.
  • What cooking ancestrally looks like in our kitchens.

Our conversation touches on sourcing/growing, what we eat, industrialisation, organ meat, preparing meals at home, 'fast' ancestral cooking, soaking and fermenting, drawing on multiple ancestors' traditions and our seasonal eating/preserving patterns.

Useful links from this episode:

What are Paraprobiotics and Postbiotics?

www.eatwild.com

Raw Milk Finder (US)

Raw Milk Finder (outside US)

We'd love to continue the conversation. Come find us on Instagram:

Andrea is at Farm and Hearth

Alison is at Ancestral Kitchen

The podcast is at Ancestral Kitchen Podcast


Original Music, Episode Mixing and Post-Production by Robert Michael Kay

www.robertmichaelkay.com

19 Jun 2023#60 - What Fermented Drinks Can I Make?01:31:40

Today's episode is dedicated to covering the wide world of fermented drinks - all accessible to you, makeable in your own kitchen, right now. We talk about over 20 different fermented drinks, including scoby ferments, whey ferments, grain ferments, wild ferments and we tell you how you can incorporate these super-health-giving, delicious foods into your life.

So if you've ever asked the question, what fermented drinks can I make or what other fermented drinks can I make, this episode's for you!

You'll leave episode informed, inspired and ready to get going on some new fermented drinks for you and your family to enjoy!

Get a 5% discount (and free shipping in the US) on grass-fed supplements, including liver capsules by visiting: https://www.oneearthhealth.com/AncestralKitchen

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Get more news from Alison & Andrea by signing up to their newsletter at the top of the page here.

For more tips, inspiration and recipes plus a free 30-page guide to Baking with Ancient Grains sign up for Alison's newsletter here!

Get our two podcast cookbooks:

Meals at the Ancestral Hearth

Spelt Sourdough Every Day

Alison's course, Rye Sourdough Bread: Mastering The Basics is here, with a 10% discount applied!

Alison's Sowans oat fermentation course is here, with a 10% discount applied!

Get 10% off any course at The Fermentation School: click here and use code AKP at checkout.

Get 10% off US/Canada Bokashi supplies: click here and use code AKP.

Get 10% off UK Bokashi supplies.

Visit our (non-Amazon!) bookshop for a vast selection of ancestral cookbooks: US link here and UK link here.

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Our podcast is supported by Patrons in ancestral kitchens around the world!

Come join our community! You can choose to simply sponsor the podcast, or select from a variety of levels with benefits including monthly live Zoom calls, a private podcast feed stuffed with bonus content from Alison and Andrea, and a Discord discussion group.

To read more about becoming a patron and explore the various levels, click here!

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What we cover:

  • Scoby ferments
  • Whey ferments, and how...
13 Mar 2021#2 - Meet Alison of Ancestral Kitchen01:04:53

"For ages, I thought cooking wasn't creativity, that creativity was art; it was music - that kind of thing. It took many gentle, soft words from my husband, Rob, and much experimenting and changing for me to realise that what I was doing in the kitchen was just as creative as writing music."

Come meet Alison, the European half of Ancestral Kitchen, in this second 'meet' episode of our podcast.

You'll hear about the life she's created in Italy with her husband and 6-year old son. We cover her health journey, including her 10-stone (140lb) weight loss, carving a different path from the environment you grew up in, her kitchen set up, the joy ancestral food brings her, changing the food system and why connection is central to her life and cooking.

Alison's website:

www.ancestralkitchen.com

We'd love to continue the conversation. Come find us on Instagram:

Andrea is at Farm and Hearth

Alison is at Ancestral Kitchen

The podcast is at Ancestral Kitchen Podcast

Original Music, Episode Mixing and Post-Production by Robert Michael Kay

www.robertmichaelkay.com

24 Apr 2023#56 - Preparing Nutrient-Dense Meals From Scratch Every Day01:24:31

You asked for it, and we did it. We finally did it! Alison and I have written our first Ancestral Kitchen Podcast cookbook, called Meals at the Ancestral Hearth. It's available now at https://ancestralkitchenpodcast.com/shop/books/meals-at-the-ancestral-hearth/. This is an eCookbook you can download and start reading immediately, and you'll receive the link to two versions - one is formatted for printing and keeping in your kitchen because that’s how I read my recipes, the other for reading on your eReader or mobile device, because that’s how Alison reads her recipes.

You know we aren’t going to give you a prescriptive list of recipes that assumes you have access to a supermarket stuffed with globally imported processed foods, so what is in this book, and how did we come up with these meals? That is what this episode is about. The desire for creativity and the need for adaptability with seasonal fluctuations, time constraints, dietary restrictions and food availability.

The recipes in this book are dishes that build the foundation of our daily kitchen rhythms. These foods make up meals our families eat on a weekly and daily basis, and of course, the foods follow ancestral principles for preparation.

We included Alison’s spicy lentils and cast-iron ground meat, my turkey noodle soup and sourdough pasta, and of course - the infamous lacto-fermented ice cream.

We also wrote a number of articles that can only be found exclusively in this book - including Alison’s thorough and detailed water kefir FAQ, my fresh egg preserving tips, the contents of our pantries, and so much more!

In this episode, we will share about working around restrictions, catastrophic failure, and going off script with your cooking. Visit https://ancestralkitchenpodcast.com/shop/books/meals-at-the-ancestral-hearth/to check out the book and look at the table of contents. Thank you for listening and supporting the podcast!

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Get more news from Alison & Andrea by signing up to their newsletter at the top of the page here.

For more tips, inspiration and recipes plus a free 30-page guide to Baking with Ancient Grains sign up for Alison's newsletter here!

Get our two podcast cookbooks:

Meals at the Ancestral Hearth

Spelt Sourdough Every Day

Alison's course, Rye Sourdough Bread: Mastering The Basics is here, with a 10% discount applied!

Alison's Sowans oat fermentation course is here, with a 10% discount applied!

Get 10% off any course at The Fermentation School: click here and use code AKP at checkout.

Get 10% off US/Canada Bokashi supplies: click here...

16 Aug 2021#13 - The Secret Life of Chocolate01:21:10

Chocolate has a secret life.

One where, instead of being formed into industrial bars, women combine it by hand with local herbs to make drinks. One where it is a healer, not a creator of addiction. One where it’s revered - held so sacred that it’s used in ceremony and as currency, not bought for a few pennies, wrapper discarded. One where it’s bitter, potent and intense, not sweet and sickly. And one where nobody feels guilt when they imbibe it.

There’s no-one more qualified to open the door to this world than Marcos Patchett, author of the 700-page The Secret Life of Chocolate. This book, which covers everything you could possibly want to know about cacao - including how it was ancestrally used, it’s pharmacology and it’s mythology - will completely change your view of cacao.

There’s a lifetime’s worth of research in this book.

Come join us as we dive into a cacao-flavoured world!

The run-down:

1:52 About the book

7:20 Why Marcos wrote the book

12:19 The effect of imbibing extracted plant compounds v. the whole plant

15:10 How cacao was originally drunk and how chocolate is eaten in the West now

20:25 The book-writing high point

26:40 Alison, Andrea and Marcos talk about their relationships with chocolate

34:00 Chocolate and disordered eating

36:58 Cacao’s medicinal effects

44:00 How chocolate’s effects are mediated by the eater’s intention

59.40 The cultural side of cacao's history

1:07:25 Self-medicating with chocolate as part of disordered eating

1.10:25 Practical steps to start eating chocolate ancestrally/authentically

It blew my mind to realise I’ve been blocking benefits of chocolate by feeling guilt” Alison

*Due to equipment failure, this episode does not have as good audio quality as normal. But it's totally listenable and wonderful content!*

If you want to buy your own copy of the book, Marcos is offering a 20% discount. Use the code CHOC20 on the publishers website:

For those in the US: https://bit.ly/3dVRX1d

For rest of world: https://www.aeonbooks.co.uk

The modern research suggests quite strongly that cacao is protective against heart disease and stroke and type 2 diabetes.” Marcos

Resources mentioned:

Our 6 Books We Love episode

Jonathan Ott - The Cacahuatl Eater

Susana Trilling - Seasons of my Heart

Mama Coca

Only eating the chocolate mindfully produced a positive increase in mood” Marcos

Where to find Marcos and his work:

Marcos’ book’s website: https://thesecretlifeofchocolate.com/

Marcos’ Instagram:

20 Jun 2022#34 - Our Favourite Nourishing Traditions Recipes01:04:35

"We love this book so much!"

The ancestral cook's bible: Nourishing Traditions by Sally Fallon-Morell

We love this book and we've cooked so much from it. In this episode you'll hear which six recipes from the hundreds filling its pages are our absolute favourites. We'll share why we love them, give you tips about the ingredients and processes, and talk about how we've used them to feed our families and friends and made them our own.

Our six go-to dishes include two breakfasts, two mains, a dessert and a vegetable ferment and hail from all over the globe. Whether you have a copy of the book yet or not listen in and you'll leave totally inspired to make these delicious, nutritious dishes part of your own kitchen and life!

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Get more news from Alison & Andrea by signing up to their newsletter at the top of the page here.

For more tips, inspiration and recipes plus a free 30-page guide to Baking with Ancient Grains sign up for Alison's newsletter here!

Get our two podcast cookbooks:

Meals at the Ancestral Hearth

Spelt Sourdough Every Day

Alison's course, Rye Sourdough Bread: Mastering The Basics is here, with a 10% discount applied!

Alison's Sowans oat fermentation course is here, with a 10% discount applied!

Get 10% off any course at The Fermentation School: click here and use code AKP at checkout.

Get 10% off US/Canada Bokashi supplies: click here and use code AKP.

Get 10% off UK Bokashi supplies.

Visit our (non-Amazon!) bookshop for a vast selection of ancestral cookbooks: US link here and UK link here.

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Our podcast is supported by Patrons in ancestral kitchens around the world!

Come join our community! You can choose to simply sponsor the podcast, or select from a variety of levels with benefits including monthly live Zoom calls, a private podcast feed stuffed with bonus content from Alison and Andrea, and a Discord discussion group.

To read more about becoming a patron and explore the various levels, click here!

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The Run Down:

5:20 So many new things coming to the podcast Patreon

11:34 We love Nourishing Traditions so much!

13:10 Alison's choice #1: Ginger Carrots...

15 Jan 2024#75 - Sandor Katz: Wild Yeast, Small Food & The War On Bacteria00:51:03

If you asked both Andrea and I who's inspired us the most we'd both put our guest today, Sandor Katz, right up there in our top couple of names. We've read his books, underlining phrase after phrase, we've taken his advice; we've made his ferments, so many of his ferments. He's inspired, educated, and hand-held us both through our food fermentation journeys.

Coming up is a fascinating and informative conversation that covers what Sandor grows and ferments, safety and fermentation, wild starters versus commercial yeast and how you can utilise wild yeast in your ferments, the war on bacteria, the small food revolution and much more.

Check out our aftershow conversation with Sandor! We talk about tibicos (water kefir) and milk kefir and why grains don't populate. You can get access and download by joining our patreon community at the Companionship level or above. Find details here.

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The organ supplements we use and trust – get a 5% discount (and free shipping) on grass-fed supplements, including liver capsules by visiting: https://www.oneearthhealth.com/AncestralKitchen

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Get more news from Alison & Andrea by signing up to their newsletter at the top of the page here.

For more tips, inspiration and recipes plus a free 30-page guide to Baking with Ancient Grains sign up for Alison's newsletter here!

Get our two podcast cookbooks:

Meals at the Ancestral Hearth

Spelt Sourdough Every Day

Alison's course, Rye Sourdough Bread: Mastering The Basics is here, with a 10% discount applied!

Alison's Sowans oat fermentation course is here, with a 10% discount applied!

Get 10% off any course at The Fermentation School: click here and use code AKP at checkout.

Get 10% off US/Canada Bokashi supplies: click here and use code AKP.

Get 10% off UK Bokashi supplies.

Visit our (non-Amazon!) bookshop for a vast selection of ancestral cookbooks: US link here and UK link here.

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Our podcast is supported by Patrons in ancestral kitchens around the world!

Come join our community! You can choose to simply sponsor the podcast, or select from a variety of levels with benefits including monthly live Zoom calls, a private podcast feed stuffed with bonus content from Alison...

11 Mar 2024#79 - Butchering Poultry01:20:16

We get a lot of questions about butchering chickens over here on the podcast, and those questions range from “I have a backyard flock and I would like to be able to cull a few hens and some roosters every year,” all the way up to, “We are planning to raise enough meat birds for ourselves and our neighbors and we need to know what tools we need to get started on that.” In this episode, I am going to do my best to get you comfortable with the idea of butchering a few hens on your kitchen counter, and reassure you that you have every tool you need, and it really is a simple and straightforward process - but there is a learning curve, and it is worth learning.

This is an ancestral skill that used to be fairly familiar to many people; if you have read many older books you know they are always butchering this, that, or the other chicken and it doesn’t even barely make a comment in the book because it is such a simple and familiar process to people in the days of old. We will cover the tools you need for both a simple few birds a year, all the way up to the larger batches that involve more equipment; we will talk about involving your kids in the process, and we will talk about the clean-up and packaging process at the end as well.

I hope you find this episode to be very useful and interesting, and please be aware that we are going to talk about all the blood and guts in this episode and it is appropriate for all ages, but please be aware before you jump in.

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The organ supplements we use and trust – get a 5% discount (and free shipping) on grass-fed supplements, including liver capsules by visiting: https://www.oneearthhealth.com/AncestralKitchen

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Get more news from Alison & Andrea by signing up to their newsletter at the top of the page here.

For more tips, inspiration and recipes plus a free 30-page guide to Baking with Ancient Grains sign up for Alison's newsletter here!

Get our two podcast cookbooks:

Meals at the Ancestral Hearth

Spelt Sourdough Every Day

Alison's course, Rye Sourdough Bread: Mastering The Basics is here, with a 10% discount applied!

Alison's Sowans oat fermentation course is here, with a 10% discount applied!

Get 10% off any course at The Fermentation School: click here and use code AKP at checkout.

Get 10% off US/Canada Bokashi supplies: click here and use code AKP.

Get 10% off UK Bokashi supplies.

Visit our (non-Amazon!) bookshop for a vast selection of ancestral cookbooks: US link here and

16 Dec 2024#98 - How to Have a Green & Peaceful Christmas01:05:54

Do you dislike all the fuss, packaging and stress that a mainstream Christmas involves? So do we! Both of us have spent many years cultivating Christmases that are low-key, close to zero-waste and calm. And they are beautiful. Listen in as we share our tips for experiencing a green and peaceful Christmas.

Our 2024 Christmas Hamper is now available for all companionship or above supporters of the podcast. It's full of Christmas gift ideas, recipes and routines that will support you to have a wonderful festive period. Much love from both of us for the holidays.

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One Earth Health make the grass-fed organ supplements we use and trust. Get 15% off your first order here and 5% off all subsequent orders here.

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Get more news from Alison & Andrea by signing up to their newsletter at the top of the page here.

For more tips, inspiration and recipes plus a free 30-page guide to Baking with Ancient Grains sign up for Alison's newsletter here!

Get our two podcast cookbooks:

Meals at the Ancestral Hearth

Spelt Sourdough Every Day

Alison's course, Rye Sourdough Bread: Mastering The Basics is here, with a 10% discount applied!

Alison's Sowans oat fermentation course is here, with a 10% discount applied!

Get 10% off any course at The Fermentation School: click here and use code AKP at checkout.

Get 10% off US/Canada Bokashi supplies: click here and use code AKP.

Get 10% off UK Bokashi supplies.

Visit our (non-Amazon!) bookshop for a vast selection of ancestral cookbooks: US link here and UK link here.

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Our podcast is supported by Patrons in ancestral kitchens around the world!

Come join our community! You can choose to simply sponsor the podcast, or select from a variety of levels with benefits including monthly live Zoom calls, a private podcast feed stuffed with bonus content from Alison and Andrea, and a Discord discussion group.

To read more about becoming a patron and explore the various levels, click here!

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08 Apr 2024#81 - Millet: How to Use this Sustainable, Gluten & Lectin-Free Grain01:06:05

Do you cook with millet? I do and I love this ancient grain for the fact that it is super sustainable, very economical and, being gluten and lectin free, really easy to digest.

In this episode we dive in to the ancestral grain millet. We will talk about what it is, why you'd want to include it in your diet, how to cook it and I then I will go on to share in detail my seven favourite ways to use millet - we regularly consume millet all of these ways in our home.

By the end of this episode you will be armed with everything you need to know to start cooking, eating and loving this wonderful grain in your own kitchen.

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The organ supplements we use and trust – get a 5% discount (and free shipping) on grass-fed supplements, including liver capsules by visiting: https://www.oneearthhealth.com/AncestralKitchen

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Get more news from Alison & Andrea by signing up to their newsletter at the top of the page here.

For more tips, inspiration and recipes plus a free 30-page guide to Baking with Ancient Grains sign up for Alison's newsletter here!

Get our two podcast cookbooks:

Meals at the Ancestral Hearth

Spelt Sourdough Every Day

Alison's course, Rye Sourdough Bread: Mastering The Basics is here, with a 10% discount applied!

Alison's Sowans oat fermentation course is here, with a 10% discount applied!

Get 10% off any course at The Fermentation School: click here and use code AKP at checkout.

Get 10% off US/Canada Bokashi supplies: click here and use code AKP.

Get 10% off UK Bokashi supplies.

Visit our (non-Amazon!) bookshop for a vast selection of ancestral cookbooks: US link here and UK link here.

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Our podcast is supported by Patrons in ancestral kitchens around the world!

Come join our community! You can choose to simply sponsor the podcast, or select from a variety of levels with benefits including monthly live Zoom calls, a private podcast feed stuffed with bonus content from Alison and Andrea, and a Discord discussion group.

To read more about becoming a patron and explore the various levels, click here!

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29 Jan 2024#76 - Essential Oils in an Ancestral Kitchen01:12:06

The world of essential oils is an ancient and ancestral one. From the Mesopotamian valley where the Sumerians, Akkadians and ancient Hebrew tribes were distilling, trading and using oils to the apothecaries and wisdom of the ancient Chinese; from the dusty tombs of Egyptian Pharaohs like Tutankhamun to the Silk Road and spice merchants guiding camels burdened with precious ointments, oils, resins and salves.

The ancients knew and prized essential oils for their benefits, and we can enjoy the same benefits today - maybe not procured from a trader riding into town on a camel, but beneficial just the same!

Using oils in the kitchen is a remarkably easy and delicious way to use them, and one that our ancestors - who used oils for religious rituals, cleansing, medical care and inhalation in addition to epicurean delights of the wealthy tables - would have approved of. In this episode we will discuss what essential oils are, a brief history of their use throughout the world, and some of my favorite ways to use them in the kitchen. We have included a booklet of recipes for all listeners which can be downloaded at AncestralKitchenPodcast.com/downloads.

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The organ supplements we use and trust – get a 5% discount (and free shipping) on grass-fed supplements, including liver capsules by visiting: https://www.oneearthhealth.com/AncestralKitchen

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Get more news from Alison & Andrea by signing up to their newsletter at the top of the page here.

For more tips, inspiration and recipes plus a free 30-page guide to Baking with Ancient Grains sign up for Alison's newsletter here!

Get our two podcast cookbooks:

Meals at the Ancestral Hearth

Spelt Sourdough Every Day

Alison's course, Rye Sourdough Bread: Mastering The Basics is here, with a 10% discount applied!

Alison's Sowans oat fermentation course is here, with a 10% discount applied!

Get 10% off any course at The Fermentation School: click here and use code AKP at checkout.

Get 10% off US/Canada Bokashi supplies: click here and use code AKP.

Get 10% off UK Bokashi supplies.

Visit our (non-Amazon!) bookshop for a vast selection of ancestral cookbooks: US link here and UK link here.

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Our podcast is supported by Patrons

07 Jun 2021#8 - Kitchen Management & Avoiding Burnout01:19:01

"Admire and respect what you're doing." Andrea

As soon as a listener suggested this topic, we both knew we had to cover it. Burnout is something we've both experienced and our kitchen management rituals have often been painfully won.

"My biggest problem is that I get ridiculously enthusiastic and I take on too much at once" Alison

Join us as we talk about subjects including clarity, delegation, enthusiasm overload, work groups, managing your 'team', routine, ritualizing, organization, the spectre of comparison and the importance of valuing your contribution.

"If it really means something to you, and it really needs to be done, you will get to it" Alison

A Slob Comes Clean podcast (mentioned by Andrea)

How do you manage your kitchen? What helps maintain your energy? We'd love to know. Come find us on Instagram:

Alison's at www.instagram.com/ancestral_kitchen

Andrea's at www.instagram.com/farmandhearth

If you love what we're doing, please do leave us a review or check out our new Patreon community here.

04 Mar 2021#1 - Meet Andrea of Farm and Hearth00:50:13

"When we eat close to the land, everything is about connection"

Come meet Andrea, the American half of Ancestral Kitchen, in this kick-off episode of our podcast.

You'll hear about her life, family and newly-created farm as we cover such topics as taking ownership, moving from the city to a farmstead, not being able to 'un-know' something, eating close to home, heritage breeds, tiny kitchens and how it's all about connection!

We'd love to continue the conversation. Come find us on Instagram:

Andrea is at Farm and Hearth

Alison is at Ancestral Kitchen

The podcast is at Ancestral Kitchen Podcast

Original Music, Episode Mixing and Post-Production by Robert Michael Kay

www.robertmichaelkay.com

31 Mar 2025#106 - Gluten Free Ancestral Eating01:07:14

Combining gluten-free eating with ancestral eating need not be daunting. Today I talk with Rebecca Zipp, a beloved podcast guest and supporter. She's been gluten-free for the last 16 years – bringing her husband and her children along with her. In addition, for most of last year I ate gluten-free. Between the two of us we've a lot to talk about!

In this episode, we cover:

  • Why Rebecca went gluten-free and the impact it's had on her.
  • Examples of gluten-free breakfasts lunches and dinners.
  • The mass of gluten-free carbohydrate options, and how we use them
  • The basics of gluten-free breadmaking

...and Rebecca finishes the episode giving words of wisdom from her 16 years of gluten-free eating.

And remember, gluten doesn't necessarily have to be an all or nothing: making one of your meals a day gluten-free or several days a week gluten-free or going gluten-free for a short space of time can make a big difference to digestion. So even if you don't have to avoid gluten all the time the things we talk about in this episode will help lighten, change up and inspire your kitchen.

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One Earth Health make the grass-fed organ supplements we use and trust. Get 15% off your first order here and 5% off all subsequent orders here.

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To enter our liver capsule giveaway (US only), sign up for our newsletter at ancestralkitchenpodcast.com (at the top of any page) and One Earth Health's newsletter at oneearthhealth.com (after a few moments on the site a popup will appear). Competition open until close of day, May 13 2025.

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Get more news from Alison & Andrea by signing up to their newsletter at the top of the page here.

For more tips, inspiration and recipes plus a free 30-page guide to Baking with Ancient Grains sign up for Alison's newsletter here!

Get our two podcast cookbooks:

Meals at the Ancestral Hearth

Spelt Sourdough Every Day

Alison's course, Rye Sourdough Bread: Mastering The Basics is here, with a 10% discount applied!

Alison's Sowans oat fermentation course is here, with a 10% discount applied!

Get 10% off any course at The Fermentation School: click here and use code AKP at checkout.

Get 10% off US/Canada Bokashi supplies: click here and use code AKP.

13 Feb 2023#51 - Your Sourdough Questions Answered01:36:07

You are about to listen to one of the podcast's most popular episodes. Since it was released in February 2023, this episode has been downloaded thousands and thousands of times. That's just how popular sourdough bread is. And is testament to how many people are confused and have questions about it.

That's what we aim to help with in this episode!

We'll cover all manner of listener sourdough questions. We'll talk about where to begin with sourdough and all about starters. We'll give answers to your questions on flours, berries and milling including what to expect when using ancient grains. We'll discuss the flavour of your finished bread and the ways you can control that. We'll also share how we make dough and bread in bulk and store it. Along the way, we'll share loads of recipes and resources and and talk about some more unusual ways to use your sourdough starter.

Thank you to everyone who sent questions in and remember you can access Alison's course, 10 Tips for Creating and Maintaining a Sourdough Starter for free by going to ancestral kitchen.com/10 tips on entering the code STARTER100 at the checkout.

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Get more news from Alison & Andrea by signing up to their newsletter at the top of the page here.

For more tips, inspiration and recipes plus a free 30-page guide to Baking with Ancient Grains sign up for Alison's newsletter here!

Get our two podcast cookbooks:

Meals at the Ancestral Hearth

Spelt Sourdough Every Day

Alison's course, Rye Sourdough Bread: Mastering The Basics is here, with a 10% discount applied!

Alison's Sowans oat fermentation course is here, with a 10% discount applied!

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02 Jan 2023#48 - Talking Fermentation With Kirsten Shockey00:58:55

We know you want to know about fermentation! And who better to ask than the author of five fermentation books and co-founder of The Fermentation School, Kirsten Shockey. With over 20 years of experience in fermentation Kirsten has so much to share that'll inform, enlighten and, frankly, change the way you eat.

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  • What Kirsten's favourite thing to ferment is
  • The fermentation questions Kirsten gets most often
  • Why fermentation is safe
  • The connection fermentation brings us to our land and...
19 Dec 2023#73 - Slow Christmas01:12:48

In this episode we will share what a Slow Christmas is and why we choose to celebrate our holidays this way. We'll talk about some specific traditions for meals, gifts and more - both from our homes and from the homes of our community of patrons.

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19 Jul 2021#11 - Nourishing Traditions: THE Ancestral Cookbook01:11:36

In this episode, Andrea and Alison talk about the cookbook that has healed the way they view, cook and eat food, THE ancestral cookbook, Sally Fallon's Nourishing Traditions.

Technical Note: Andrea's microphone cord was touching part of the microphone stand, so you can hear a subtle metallic brushing every so often. This unusual issue has been resolved for future recordings. Our apologies for this audio interruption!

If Alison the raw vegan could see me now she would see someone who is a lot happier, more content, and more in touch with things than I was back then. A lot of it comes with taking a journey and embracing it, stepping forward into the unknown, even though it's scary, and changing. That’s what Nourishing Traditions helped me to do.” - Alison

What we cover:

09:30 The upcoming Nourishing Traditions Zoom cook-up!

11:10 What is Nourishing Traditions?

16:45 When Andrea got the book and what it changed for her

20:30 When Alison got the book and how it helped guide her journey to restored fertility

34:30 The contents of the book

39:30 Andrea’s favourite recipes

41:20 Alison’s favourite recipes

48:00 A dive into the footnotes

57:00 Recipes we want to cook from it!

1:01:20 The importance of rhythm in ancestral cooking

1:03:50 Sally’s other books

Resources mentioned:

Nourishing Traditions blog: https://nourishingtraditions.com/

Andrea's old blog

In Bibi's Kitchen by Hawa Hassan and Julia Turshen

Nourished Kitchen - Natural Whole Foods Recipes

The "sparks of light" quote from Nourishing Traditions that Andrea read came from page 401

Les aliments fermentés traditionnels : Une richesse méconnue by Claude Aubert

Ageless Remedies from Mother's Kitchen - Hannah Kroeger

We love Nourishing Traditions so much, we’ve decided to host a live cook-up on zoom of three of its recipes. This interactive event is available free to Patrons of Ancestral Kitchen Podcast - they can come on live or download it (in audio or video format) at any time in the future by accessing our exclusive-to-patrons conent feed. If you would like to come join, check below for more details:

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25 Apr 2022#30 - The Whole Chicken & Nothing But The Chicken00:52:35

"A whole chicken is one of the most economical things you can bring into your kitchen" Jamie Waldron, Butcher

The chicken, the whole chicken, and nothing but the chicken! Pasture-raised, ethical meat is a popular catch-phrase nowadays, but can it really be affordable? In this episode we will show you that it is, and how becoming fluent in "whole chicken" will make your meals more nutritious, delicious, easy AND budget-friendly. We'll also bust a few chicken myths and share how we utilize whole chickens - including the odd bits - in our kitchens!

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Here's what we cover:

0:00-5:20 Intro, what we last ate and welcome new patreon community member

5:20-15:00 Chicken price comparison organic/conventional in UK and US; astounding difference in whole chicken/breast price, challenges of organic certification

"Whole chickens and supermarket chicken breasts are incomparable in terms of both nutrition and cost"

15:00-24:00 Nutritional content, craziness of industrial animal raising and what do we (and should we) feed chickens

"Give a store label 0% of your trust"

24:00 onwards: Practicalities in the kitchen

"I love the idea of freezing shredded chicken in stock"

25:00 -29:00 How to cut up a whole chicken before cooking, including information on the Patreon chicken video!

29:00-38:50 Cooking a whole chicken

38:50-49:45 The 'extra bits': Head, feet, neck and broth, including the value of broth obtained from a whole chicken

"$72 of broth from one single whole chicken"

49:45 How Andrea uses her chicken meat

Resources Mentioned:

Flavio is Alison's farmer

Our stock episode

Piper's Farm in the UK

Polyface Farm (Joel Salatin's farm)

To access our Patreon video on an alternative way of cutting up a whole chicken which divides the meat equally between each portion

Jamie Waldron

Jamie Waldron parting a chicken video - notice in the video the original butcher left the chicken butt ON and just cut the gland OUT. At the end he does a demo without any background talking.

15 Aug 2022#38 - Fat Rendering, Traditional Food Gems & Eggs, Eggs, Eggs!01:08:58

As well as recording two podcasts a month, Alison & Andrea also sit down together once a month to catch up on what's been happening in their own food worlds. These chats are recorded these chats especially for the patrons of the Ancestral Kitchen Podcast.

As the podcasts this month are all about bringing you closer, what better than to share one of these intimate chats with you?! So coming up you've got them both at the kitchen table, tea in hand, sharing, laughing and learning together.

In this episode you'll hear:

  • Alison's process for wet-rendering fat including the pros and cons of this method.
  • Andrea's take on the the diaries of Nella Last and the food gems she found in her WW1&2 writings.
  • A hilarious discussion on the many ways to cook eggs, including Alison's UK-based expertise on soft boiled eggs and soldiers.
  • About the book Alison considers the best read on traditional English food.
  • Andrea quiz Alison on the technicalities of the English cup of tea!

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17 Jul 2023#62 - Building Your Pantry with Canning: Hospitality, Budgeting, Safety and More with Angi Schneider01:36:51

Putting food into jars: is it really hard? Is it complicated? Am I going to make my family sick? Does it taste better, am I going to save money, or both? What is the point? All this and a lot more is covered in this episode. Andrea talks with Angi Schneider, a patron of the podcast and the author of The Ultimate Guide to Preserving Vegetables, and Pressure Canning for Beginners and Beyond, two wonderful books in Andrea's kitchen.

She has a lot in those books including tables where you can figure out what to do with all the produce coming in from your garden, CSA, local farms or wherever. The pressure canning book is loaded with recipes for meals and dinners that are nutrient-dense and delicious that you can have on your pantry shelf, ready to go at the drop of a hat!

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18 Nov 2024#96 - Cooking Ancestrally Through the Winter with Kathie Lapcevic01:10:30

How do you eat ancestrally and seasonally even during winter, when the produce stands maybe are shut down and your garden may be covered over with snow for the season and your body needs a different kind of support than it does during the busy, active days of summer? In this episode Alison and Kathie, who is a longtime listener, supporter and friend of the podcast, got to talk about all of these topics and much more. Kathie is the creator of Homespun Seasonal Living, one of my favourite websites for pulling recipes, and Kathie is an expert and authority on all things food preservation, gardening and storage.

In this episode they covered some great winter vegetable and fruit options, storage of winter produce, and of course preservation methods including canning, freezing, dehydrating and fermenting, and of course the often debated topic of nutrient loss during preservation. They also discussed aspects of combatting winter food boredom by creating variety in the diet and ways to alleviate the heaviness of winter food. They also covered some interesting ideas for using spices and sauerkraut, different ways of using microgreens and sprouts, and Kathie created a wonderful Winter Eating Guide that listeners can download in the show notes. Kathie is also the creator of one of my very favourite mailing lists, and you can sign up for her mailing list in the show notes right now and get the Winter Eating Guide as well as some other benefits on top that if you like. I love the recipes I've gotten from her mailing list and she is so creative with her use of herbs and her different cosy beverages and things that she comes up with. I am looking forward to hearing how you enjoy this episode and what you and your family do to keep things cosy and local during the winter.

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02 Dec 2024#97 - Postpartum Care and Ancestral Food Wisdom with Christine Muldoon01:14:55

In this wonderful episode, I got to sit down with Christine Muldoon, who is a friend, the creator of NourishtheLittles.com, a Nutritional Therapy Practitioner, a mother and wife, and also a follower of the Weston A Price principles of food. She is also the co-host of the podcast Modern Ancestral Mamas with her amazing co-host, Corey Dunn. I wanted to tap into Christine's incredible knowledge base and wisdom for post-partum care, and really nourishing mom in the post-partum window of time. I wanted to highlight WHY it is so important, why is the rest so important, and what are some of the foods we should be focusing on and types of foods we should be eating. Christine absolutely delivered in this episode, I enjoyed hearing all her wisdom and great advice as well as some humorous stories along the way.

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11 Apr 2022#29 - True Historical Italian Food with Karima Moyer Nocchi, Author of Chewing the Fat01:15:34

"Traditions are always things that are selected and dusted off from the past and embellished and sort of made into a collage of who we are and what represents us. What I wanted to capture with this book was the difference between that collage and the very important idea of tradition, with what people were actually eating."

Karima Moyer-Nocchi, speaker, historian, professoressa and author of Chewing the Fat and The Eternal Table, discusses with us the sometimes shocking differences between the myths of Italian traditional foods and the true history. She also shares her heart about the vital importance of capturing the oral narratives of our elders before the generation of memory keepers from a unique time have left us.

"History has always been written as if no one ever ate."

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"I really don’t have the words to describe the feeling that I have of watching that happen, and making that transpire – because you can just feel that this is the first time that these families were actually paying attention to what the older woman had to say."

Time Stamps:

00:30 Welcome and thank you to our patrons!

01:43 Introducing Karima

03:22 What’s the last thing you ate?

05:24 Diving in to Chewing the Fat: why our traditional ideas of Italian historic foods are just wrong. Karima explains this and some sources of our misperceptions.

"If you want to look up the dates of wars and things like that, you need to go to another book. Because this is a book about truthfulness, which is the other side of the coin."

11:57 Why are these false ideals we hold about historical Italian food and diet so prevalent?

12:55 Hot Mention: The development of the idea of the Mediterranean diet

15:27 What did people eat? The surprising myths that emerge about Italian food during the fascist era.

19:36 The biggest surprise for Alison in the book! Addressing the olive oil question and shocking revelations about lard

24:00 Hot Mention: Ancel Keys

26:10 The ideas of the Mediterranean diet

26:54 The Mediterranean Pyramid

34:09 UNESCO and making food an intangible heritage

37:09 When you started out on this project, did you know you would find all these myth-busting revelations?

39:57 What surprised you the most?

42:38 Karima’s interviewing and recording process; the concept of oral narrative in the historical record.

49:00 Learn about yourself as an interviewer

53:55 What do you want people to do with the information in the book? What do you want to happen because of it?

Resources Mentioned:

Five Cheapest Foods Episode

28 Aug 2023#65 - Our Birthing Stories01:40:32

Just like the Ancestral Diet is so different from the standard American diet, so the ways our ancestors birthed bears very little relation to how modern industrialised communities bring the next generation into the world.

In this intimate episode, originally recorded for patrons of the podcast, Andrea and I share our birthing stories. We've got four births between us and we came to them with very different backgrounds. We talk about the actual births, what we learnt from them, what we regret and much more. There's so much to learn from how one approaches birth; we hope this episode encourages/inspires you whether you're planning to birth soon or not!

If you like this episode, there are nearly 70 patron-exclusive podcasts, videos and aftershows that you can get access to by joining our community at the Companionship level. Check the details here: http://patreon.com/ancestralkitchenpodcast

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29 Jul 2024Encore: The 5 Cheapest (& Yet the Most Expensive) Foods01:28:35

Many of the questions Alison and I receive on a constant basis relate to topics that we covered in early foundational episodes of the podcast, so we decided to bring a few of those archive episodes to the front and highlight them for new listeners to enjoy. This episode is one of our very earliest - it's only our fourth episode on the podcast; and we were covering five of the most expensive foods to buy that are ironically some of the cheapest foods you can make.

In this episode, we cover bone broth; sourdough bread; kombucha and water kefir; kefir and yoghurt; and sauerkraut. We compare the price of purchasing high quality versions of these foods compared to making them at home, and some of our resources for each of them. This is an excellent episode with a lot of really good show notes, so be sure to check the show notes for all of our many, many, many resources on all of these topics!

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11 Sep 2023#66 - 50 Ways to Save Money on an Ancestral Diet - Part 101:15:44

"I would love to eat an ancestral diet but I can’t afford it, what can I do?"

"I want to shop from small farms around me, how can I make this happen with a limited budget?"

"Food costs are rising dramatically where I live and the budget that once worked for us isn’t cutting it anymore, help!"

In a post-industrial world where globally imported subsidized factory food is perceived as the cheaper or only option for a budget, these are questions most of us have had at some point. In this episode Alison and I want to make the case that not only are there ways to eat an ancestral diet and save money, but you can actually save money BY eating an ancestral diet. We'll bring you very practical ways we negotiated with our wallets and our conscience, while still remaining inside the confines of a sometimes very limited budget – Alison living in town in Italy, and Andrea in the United States on a small farm in one of the most expensive states of the union, Washington State.

Download part 1 of our list of 50 Ways to Save Money in an Ancestral Kitchen here (when we get to part 2 we'll give you a download for all the 50 Ways).

Here’s to saving money, living better, and eating wisely.

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21 Jun 2021#9 - Quitting Supermarkets: Practical and Ethical Concerns01:18:44

I spent a lot of my time researching and making connections with people to find my sources of food, and that takes time. - Alison

Not like I really knew what I was doing, I never know what I’m doing. - Andrea

Once it is ready, the bouza course we referred to will be loaded to the courses page on Alison's blog, Ancestral Kitchen

"The chocolate book" we alluded to is The Secret Life of Chocolate by Marcos Patchett

In this podcast, Alison is asking us to help hold her accountable to leaving the super market! Feel free to leave comments on Instagram and ask us (both!) how it's going!

I think I’m on a soapbox right now. - Andrea

Why We Get Fat by Gary Taubes for more fascinating information on the strategy and science behind supermarkets.

Radical Homemakers by Shannon Hayes

Here's an idea that we didn't mention on this episode but you will hear more about later - share your farm and farmer's market and direct market hauls with the hashtag #bringbackhighstreet !

Podcast with Ruth Layton

Once we change the habit it becomes easy to maintain it, it’s the actual push of the switch that requires more impetus. - Alison

A Few Resources 46:37

Eat Wild

Real Milk (WAPF Project)

Weston A. Price Foundation "Find Food/Local Chapter" tab

WAPF 50% Pledge

Shannon Hayes interview on a podcast where she talked about shoppers at the farmer's market

(Shannon Hayes also has her own podcast, The Hearth of Sap Bush Hollow)

For my journey, the basics aren’t more expensive if you change what you expect and your habits. Bulk grains are cheaper than bread, offal is cheaper than meat. - Alison

To see how we changed some of our habits to accommodate eating better on a budget, check out this past episode: 5 Most Expensive (and yet, the cheapest!) Foods!

By talking about this I’m not trying to browbeat somebody into making a decision or a choice, what I’m trying to do is reveal to them what perhaps they weren’t aware of. - Andrea

Do you know how to leave us a review? Obviously as you heard at the end of this episode, neither of us have it figured out yet. If you know how to leave a review, we appreciate it!!!! (Also can you tell us how it's done?!)

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20 May 2024#84 - How to Get More (& Tastier!) Liver into Your Diet01:26:54

Liver: do you love it or hate it?

Which ever side of the fence you're on, we're betting you know that liver is a true superfood; one of the most nutrient dense foods we can include in our diet.

But for many it's also a 'problem' food – we know because both of us regularly get questions on including liver in an ancestral diet.

This episode is for liver lovers and liver haters! We talk about why liver is so important, how often to eat liver, where to start with sourcing, preparing and cooking liver, what types of liver we eat and how we eat it, how to eat liver without realising you're eating liver, how to get children to eat liver, what to do if you just can't eat liver and we share our favourite and our patrons favourite liver recipes.

We just couldn't stop talking about liver and if you're our patron of the podcast, you will find an after show in your private feed where we share even more about liver including eating it raw.

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12 Aug 2024#89 - 'Snotty' Ferments, Ale Recipe & Convincing Those Who Won't Listen (a Peek into a Patron Exclusive Podcast)01:31:16

Every month, we record not only the episodes you listen to here on Ancestral Kitchen but also a special show for supporters of the podcast - that is, our patrons.

The episode you’re about to hear is one of these patron-exclusive shows from earlier in the year. In it you’ll get a taste of the sort of things we cover - we regularly talk about what’s happening in our own lives, often sharing things we wouldn’t in the main episodes and we also, as you will hear, answer really juicy questions from our patrons.

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09 Sep 2024#91 - 7 Meals in 1 Day!00:56:32

The question we receive the most is how do you do it?

How do you cook 3 meals a day, 365 days a year for your families?

We thought it was about time we tackled this head on, and do it in a practical way. So in this episode you will hear two real-life examples of how we took one cooking session and let it guide the food we served and ate for a whole week.

If you’ve ever thought or felt that you don’t have enough time. If you’ve ever wondered how we come up with the goods at every meal-time. If you’ve opened the fridge and felt that sinking feeling, what today, this episode will help!

To get your copy of the printable PDF that accompanies this show and houses all the add-on recipes we talk about, visit https://patreon.com/ancestralkitchenpodcast and join at the companionship or above level.

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19 Dec 2022#47 - The Christmas Survival Guide01:06:57

Are you stressed about over-indulging during the holidays? Are you wondering how to eat a nourishing ancestral diet while away from home? What about the children - are people stuffing them full of sugar plums when you wish they were eating something else?

Alison and Andrea tackle all these questions and more in this episode centered around surviving the holidays, and walking into the New Year feeling nourished and healthy!

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What We Talk About:

  • Why getting clear on what's important to you over the festive season is so important
  • Ways to celebrate Advent
  • Making your space joyful
  • Creating decorations from nature
  • How to eat well and stay sane if you're hosting
  • Ancestral dishes that you can prepare in advance
  • How you can eat well if you're not the one cooking/choosing the food
  • Ancestral dishes you can take with you to other homes
  • How to get in good food if you have to fly
  • Children and
18 Jul 2022#36 - Defending Beef with Nicolette Hahn Niman01:02:13

"For every complex problem there's an answer that is clear simple and wrong"

Are you confused or disheartened by the mainstream medias portrayal of beef? Would you like to understand how well managed cattle can be a huge step in solving our climate and health problems? Do you long for more nuance in the discussion on how to create sustainable food for our future?

Today on the podcast we welcome Nicolette Hahn Niman the author of the book Defending Beef.

  • We talk about how the key to creating a sustainable future can be found by looking back to our food and farming heritage
  • She explains the flaw in the global science reports we all hear about
  • She shares how she moved from being a 30-year vegetarian back to eating meat
  • We talk about the importance of nourishment from real food and hear how Nicolette creates and sustains that for her own family

As well as being author, Nicolette is a mother, a lawyer and a rancher. She has an incredible head for science but she has her fingers in the soil and her knife on the chopping board in her kitchen every day. There's so much wisdom in this conversation.

"It is complexity and diversity that create regeneration."

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03 Aug 2021#12 - Why I Gave Away My iPhone01:32:56

"Everything about getting rid of my iPhone came down to health. " -Alison

In just two short generations, tech has slowly crept into our lives in more and more ways, eating away at our time and our sanity in so many insidious ways. In this episode, Andrea interviews Alison and Rob about their tech use, the over-use that caused Alison to re-evaluate the way she was implementing tech in her life, and why they decided to get rid of their smart phones. Rob will provide tips on the technical side, and we will all discuss how to live fully with less distractions!

"Tech can steal from us. It sneaks into our lives in little ways, here and there." -Alison

What we cover:

As always, we start out discussing what we ate before getting on to record! Skip the food intro: 11:20

Summarise the Issue: What are the Two Key Problems? 11:39

You Gave Away Your iPhone ... What Else Has Changed: 15:55

What Do You Use Now: 17:00

How Are You Using & Receiving Differently Now? 21:15

How Do You Approach It Now: 24:24

The Physical Effects: 26:40

Meeting Rob: 29:15

Rob's Story: 29:58

The Process of Recovery: 37:00

The Physical Effect Screens Have on Us: 38:30

What is an e-Ink Screen: 41:05

Electronic Frequency Patterns: 45:00

How Do We Mitigate Screen Damage? 46:18

The Effects of Wi-Fi: 51:30

How Do We Mitigate Wi-Fi Damage? 53:08

EMF Test Apps: 57:00

"I had to balance the technology I was using with the impact it had on me." -Rob

Alison Comes Back In: 57:43

Upcoming - Patreon Feed Interview with Rob: 58:25

Introducing The Psychological Effects: 59:45

How I Work Now: 01:00:53

"Life opens up so much more ..." Alison

Results of the Social Media Break: 01:09:51

Time Blocking Social Media Engagement: 01:11:51

Taking Sundays Off: 01:12:18

Moon Time: 01:15:15

Follow or Unfollow? 01:16:44

"I have to trust that what I'm doing with Ancestral Kitchen will grow through me doing things that bring me joy, not through things that I think I should be doing... It's been an incredibly hard thing for me to do to trust myself... " - Alison 01:18:40

Time Frame for Tech Usage: 01:23:53

A Positive Approach to Tech Limiting: 01:25:19

"My self-trust has deepened." - Alison

Summarizing the Changes: 01:28:07

Alison's Final Thoughts: 01:29:07

Access to the Exclusive Patreon Feed: 01:31:12

"Sometimes you're gonna fail and you'll get sucked back in - but not all the time." - Alison

Resources Mentioned

eReader tablet link: Onyx books

"Life opens up more when you don’t have a phone." -Alison

Iris Software (bluelight and eye protection software)

Rob's...

24 May 2021#7 - Sourdough - Why We Love It01:07:53

"That led to bakers yeast, which was a household item by 1900... Then we just seem to have gone completely downhill from there, to this place where on the shelves are these loaves made in a process that, if you showed a baker from three or four hundred years ago, they just wouldn't recognize, with all these additives in it... And people just think that's bread." - Alison, in Episode 7, Sourdough

"You basically need to be able to stir a spoon in a bowl. That's about the skill level that's needed." - Andrea

Mentioned in the podcast:

Fare la scapetta

The Fresh Loaf forum

"There's about 18 million ways to do this, it can't be that hard." - Andrea

A Collection of Unmitigated Pedantry blog - Bread: Part I

The History of Food Podcast on Apple

Sourdough Recipes on Alison's blog, Ancestral Kitchen

"Spelt has a tendency to go stale quite quickly, also the crumb can be a bit hard; and the scald helps with both those things." Alison

Wild Fermentation by Sandor Ellix Katz

The Art of Fermentation by Sandor Ellix Katz

Peter Reinhart's Artisan Breads Every Day by Peter Reinhart

"Each thing along the line has grabbed me and pulled me in more. Each step I've taken away from that 9 to 5 life slowly slowly slowly to intentionally build something else had rewarded me in ways that tell I'm on the right path. This feels in accordance with my nature far more than what I used to do and how I used to live." - Alison

Nourishing Traditions by Sally Fallon Morell

Bread flour sourced from Azure Standard

EInkorn flour sourced from Young Living

"If we could just awaken everybody to the idea that their food is playing a role -- I don't have to tell you to make sourdough or how to make sourdough once you have the idea that food is affecting everything about your life you will begin to seek out and the things will come to you." - Andrea

Tara Couture of Slow Down Farmstead

Andrea mentioned she was posting Charlotte Mason quotes online. You can see them here: instagram.com/charlottemasoncommonplace

Alison's beloved Emile Henry loaf pan

"I took my own journey...

03 Jun 2024#85 - Ancestral Cooking When You're Busy, Sick, Pregnant or Moving01:15:10

What about cooking and eating ancestrally when you're in times of turmoil, or busy chaotic times - like having a new baby, or when people are sick, or when you're moving across countries!

In this episode Alison and I are going to talk about all of these things because we are going through all of them. We will share some of our strategies and plans for using up food stores before a move, or preparing food in advance when there's a baby coming, and how we're going to keep our systems running despite all of the disruptions going on in normal life.

Thank you to those of you who sent in the questions that inspired this episode - it's a really good one, and I think you will find it very useful.

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Get 10% off any course at The Fermentation School: click here and use code AKP at checkout.

Get 10% off US/Canada Bokashi supplies: click here and use code AKP.

Get 10% off UK Bokashi supplies.

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17 Jan 2022#23 - Traditional Slovakian Pig Butchery (& *all* the food!)01:30:04

Slovak food is comfort food. It’s not light, it’s not summery, but in the winter – it’s peasant food. Food that sticks to your bones and gives you a lot of energy to work in the fields. It’s simple; there’s a limited repertoire of spices. A lot of them involve just very ordinary ingredients. – Naomi

Get your marjoram and paprika ready, because the long-anticipated pig butchery interview is here! In this episode, Alison sits down with Naomi, a Canadian-born photographer and home cook who has lived in, immersed in and documented Slovakia for the past 17 years. Naomi shares about the experience of traditional Slovakian pig butchery including unique recipes, the secret to non-liver-tasting-paté (!!!) and more. To indulge in Naomi's incredible food photography and to find the recipes she mentions, check out the links in Resources!

Soup is a staple here. Traditionally, they had it every day for lunch. Naomi

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Going and living in a place is really the only way you get to learn that every place has it's bonuses, but also every place has its frustrations as well. Alison

Time Stamps

You don’t actually need a lot of fancy equipment – a table, lots of knives, big things for mixing in. Naomi

01:17 What Naomi Ate

13:18 What Alison Ate

17:11 Introducing Naomi

17:25 How Alison met Naomi

18:43 Growing up in Canada

22:06 Life in Slovakia

23:50 Food in Slovakia and how it has changed

29:00 Do you miss Canada?

31:18 Let’s talk about Slovakian pig butchering!

34:04 The season for pig butchering

A fair amount of fruit schnapps is also consumed during this process, it’s an integral part of it! Naomi

36:25 Starting the pig butchering

39:40 The cutting

41:45 Lunch on butchering day

41:59 The organs: creating a traditional sausage

44:40 The underchin!

I absolutely heartily recommend having a go at those lard biscuit things! Alison

46:38 The lard and pagac (cracklin biscuits)

It’s a great winter food – it’s really full of energy and will keep you full for a long time. Naomi

53:25 The pig’s blood: black pudding and blood sausages

55:30 The taste of blood

This is something that doesn’t keep very well and it doesn’t freeze very well; so, they put it into bowls and share it with the neighbors. Naomi, sharing about black pudding

47:35 Headcheese

01:00:20 Nightfall

01:01:40 Dinner

01:02:50 The muscle meat

01:03:30 The secret to non-liver-tasting pate

01:04:30 Canned meat

01:04:44 The skin

01:07:00 Naomi’s favorite dish from the butchering

01:09:05 Cleaning up

01:10:41 Memories and looking to the future

01:21:00 If we want to make these recipes … where do we look?

01:22:25 An eBook on...

10 May 2021#6 - Six Books We Love01:22:17

"The best books are ones that spin you off on a path; imbue you with passion"

Words. Pictures. Beauty. Comfort. Connection. Guidance. Inspiration. Joy. Support.

Books bring us so much.

In this episode, Andrea and Alison talk about six books they love!

You'll share in a radical chocolate book, two fermentation bibles, a recipe book using simple, locally-sourced food, an alternative bread book and a masterpiece that calls and inspires us to create the world we want to live in.

Here are the publications we cover:

Wild Fermentation - Sandor Ellix Katz (12:07)

12 Months of Monastery Soups - Victor D’Avila-Latourrette (25:00)

Naturally Fermented Bread - Paul Barker (31:34)

The Art of Fermentation - Sandor Ellix Katz (45:00)

The Secret Life of Chocolate - Marcos Patchett (49:35)

Radical Homemakers - Shannon Hayes (1:05:16)

Resources mentioned:

Kobo Fermentary (the Instgram Pongal fermenter)

Irina Georgescu

Tiffany (who did the #veryfarmish challenge)

An example of Posole

And author's social media:

Sandor Katz

Paul Barker's London Bakery

Marcos Patchett

Shannon Hayes

We'd love to continue the conversation. Come join us on Instagram. Alison's at @ancestral_kitchen and Andrea's at @farmandhearth

26 Sep 2022#41 - Rye Sourdough Bread: Mastering the Basics00:58:10

Why am I so obsessed with rye? It's because I love it... Rye is just so special. - Alison

Where to begin with sourdough rye bread? This is a topic that both Alison and Andrea have received so many questions about. Alison is a rye sourdough bread expert - she has made hundreds of loaves over the span of years, and she has honed-in on a lot of the specific nuances and details of working with this amazing, delicious whole grain. In this episode, Alison breaks down some of her favorite reasons for using rye bread, and discusses her newly launched course - Rye Sourdough Bread: Mastering the Basics.

With this course, I wanted to explain everything about rye sourdough starter; explain why rye is so wonderful, explain how rye works, how it's different from wheat. I wanted to walk people through two recipes that will enable them to understand rye, make it in their own kitchens, and, at the end of the course, be ready to start making the two loaves covered in the course or carry on experimenting with it. - Alison

Alison's course is a work of love and dedication and the produce of many years of rye failures, retries, and eventually successes! You can download her course at www.ancestralkitchen.com/rye, and podcast listeners can use the code PODCAST15 to get 15% off!

Rye has a different type of gluten than wheat. A lot of people who have ... sensitivities to gluten, may be able to eat rye. - Alison

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23 May 2022#32 - Cooking Ancestrally in a Van01:10:49

A tiny kitchen. No oven. A miniscule fridge. No electric power. A small two-burner hob. Prep space the size of a chopping board.

Lots of us think we have small kitchens, but imagine cooking nutrient-dense food in these circumstances.

That is exactly what our guest, Charlie Burton did - for her, her husband and their two young children...for two years! And all whilst travelling around Europe in a van.

Listen into this episode to hear:

  • How Charlie cooked three meals a day and lived in a six-and-a-half metre long van and what advice she'd pass on to all of us with limited space.
  • How she managed to find really good food on the move, despite the cultural and linguist challenges.
  • The beautiful food highlights of her trip, including an amazing ancestral-style heaven in Slovenia.
  • How she regularly made pizza without an oven!
  • The constraints and restrictions she experienced on the way and how both of these things can actually support us to live and cook the way we really want to.

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Alison's course, Rye Sourdough Bread: Mastering The Basics is here, with a 10% discount applied!

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Get 10% off any course at The Fermentation School: click here and use code AKP at checkout.

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09 Oct 2023#68 - Naturally Fermented Dairy in the Home with Robyn Jackson01:07:25

If you’re bringing raw milk into your home, whether it is through a herd share, shopping from a local raw dairy or co-op, or you have a cow on the back pasture, it is inevitable that we start wanting to value-add that milk; both adding nutritional value to it by culturing it in our homes, and adding monetary value by making raw milk into what would be higher priced items from the store.

In this episode Robyn who is the creator over at Cheese From Scratch on Instagram is here to teach us about creating your own cheese starter on the counter at home, and producing naturally fermented cheese in your own kitchen.

We also recorded an aftershow episode where we covered some more advanced aspects of cheesemaking, as well as information on raising cows, choosing cows, milking cows, and just cow things in general. You can join as a Patron today to hear this and, as of this recording, about 80 other bonus episodes and aftershows for supporters of the podcast.

This was a really fun early morning recording with Robyn. We are both in rural areas and our internet went out multiple times during this recording, so hopefully we’ve patched up all those holes, but if you hear any funny silences or we talk over each other asking “are you there?” you can excuse those audio bloopers, and enjoy all this amazing content that Robyn has to offer.

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25 Sep 2023#67 - 50 Ways to Save Money on an Ancestral Diet - Part 201:18:45

"I just can't afford to eat ancestrally" is something that we hear all the time.

And we get that, the mainstream, shop-bought side of ancestral eating can sometimes be eye-wateringly expensive. Notwithstanding that we've both been eating this way on a very tight budget for over a decade each. We’re going to show you that it is possible!

In this second part, we'll complete our list of 50 ways to save money on an ancestral diet. If you haven't listened to part one yet go back and check out that episode before diving in here.

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14 Apr 2025#107 - Easy Dairy Products to Make at Home01:31:21

It’s almost May, the month which the early medieval Anglo-Saxons called thrymilce, because according to the Venerable St Bede, “in that month cattle were milked three times a day.” We don’t know if you’re milking your cow three times a day, but ‘tis the season for lots of fresh and available milk. What to do with all that milk? - and if you don’t have a cow, what to do if you have access to raw milk and want to make staple value-added dairy products in your home, like cottage cheese, sour cream and yoghurt?

The dairy products in this episode are all delicious, high-value, low failure-risk, and don’t require expensive equipment, multiple gallons of milk or a cheese cave. Almost all the recipes can be made with a low-heat, vat-pasteurized milk, as well as with a raw milk. We’ve linked every recipe we talk about (and more!) in the show notes, and as an extra “thank you” for keeping us on the air we have created a PDF in the downloads section for podcast supporters at the $12 and above levels, with all these links and some additional recipes as well. Take a seat on the milking stool, get a glass of fresh warm milce, and let’s talk home dairy.

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26 Dec 2024#99 - Grill Me Like a Cheese Sandwich! We Answer All Your Questions01:40:00

Ask us anything, we said! Grill us like a cheese sandwich! And you did! Our podcast supporters sent in questions for Alison and I to answer for this final episode of 2024 and we had a lot of fun answering them. Some of them were crazy! Some would take an entire podcast episode to answer thoroughly, and they were all really fun - like, "What are some non-ancestral things you do, or ancestral things you don't plan to ever do?" Or, "Tell us about Alison's past life!" Alison and I also came with some questions for each other, and we did not tell each other in advance what they would be, and we had a lot of fun answering them. We also recorded our aftershow and included it in this main feed episode as our gift to you. What other questions would you have asked? What are your answers to these questions? Do you think we answered them right? Tell us your thoughts after you hear this episode.

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27 Sep 2021#16 - Shifting Our Food Values with Chef Aran Goldstein01:19:47

For some reason I remember these moments of being alone with my mom, picking the chicken, and feeling honored and proud that I was helping her. - Aran

Alison and Andrea got the opportunity to sit down with Chef Aran Goldstein and talk to him about his life and experience with food. He shares his incredible perspective on food and the way our kitchens invite beautiful, complex cultural and family experiences!

A great kitchen has great systems.... We are only as good as we are organized. - Aran

The last line of defense ... is our own kitchens. - Aran

Resources Mentioned

Watch Aran cooking with his son, check out his amazing videos and look at his consultation options!

Aran's Instagram

I know Ophelia and her husband, and I trust the food that she produces, and there's an energetic exchange of what can only be called love between us. - Aran

Aran's (AMAZING) YouTube Channel

Aran also did an incredible video interview exclusively for the Patrons of this podcast, demonstrating a technique for making injera! You can check this out in the private Patreon podcast feed - link to the video is included there!

It doesn't have to all be dark and gloomy ... look at the trends we're seeing - so many people are interested in organic; people are bringing up the concerns they have ...

- Aran

Thank you for listening - we'd love to continue the conversation.

Come find us on Instagram:

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The podcast is at Ancestral Kitchen Podcast

Original Music, Episode Mixing and Post-Production by Robert Michael Kay

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28 Feb 2022#26 - Bones & Water - The Magic of Stock01:18:39

"Stock will bring you so many more benefits than muscle meat on its own and for about a tenth of the price"

Take the left-over bones from an animal, combine them with water and some gentle heat and then wait. You'll be gifted with one of the most revered food stuffs worldwide: Stock. It's nourishing, comforting, tasty and the base of so much good food.

Listen in to hear us wax lyrical over this simple food, then talk about how we make it, the different types and how we use it in our kitchens.

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The run down:

2:10 What Andrea ate for breakfast and then what Alison ate for lunch

18:20 Talking about stock - a quote

22:22 Stock's historical clout

24:00 Why stocks are so popular

26:00 Health benefits of stock

"Stock is the best sports recovery and protein drink out there"

30:50 Why Andrea makes stock

32:20 Why Alison makes stock

34:55 Difference between bone broth and meat stock

38:30 The practicalities

39:20 How we cook it - equipment and routines

"Add in some herbs when you warm it up for an extra boost"

42:40 Add-ins to the pot and roasting the bones

46:52 The smell of stock cooking

49:40 Pork stock

"Cooking grains in stock is great!"

50:52 Fish stock

53:14 Heads and feet!

54:16 To skim or not?

54:52 Skinning chicken feet

56:05 Industrial stock

1:03:35 How we use stock in our kitchens and lives

"You can use stock with sourdough discard to make gravy"

1:06:12 Gravy and how Andrea makes hers

1:10:55 Freezing stock

"Hot chocolate broth? I'm going to go and make one!"

Resources Mentioned

The Ancestral Kitchen Challenge

Chef Aran Goldstein

The Fermentation School

Nourishing Traditions, the book

Nourishing Broth, the book

Jo Whitton's Quirky Cooking podcast episode on stock

Chewing The Fat, the book

06 Nov 2023#70 - Fermenting Oats01:04:53

Oats are one of my ultimate comfort foods. Golden, creamy, filling, tasty - what is there not to love? It's been that way for me for a long time. Long before I realised that huge swathes of my English, Scottish, Welsh and Irish ancestors subsisted on oats, sometimes eating them three times a day for many generations.

Today we'll focus on the oat, and fermenting oats. Finally Andrea let me out of my cage to talk about some of the research I've been doing into this wonderful grain over the last year. Listen in and I'm sure you'll hear things that you did not know about oats.

We'll talk about five reasons why you'd want to ferment your oats. We'll give you a brief history of the grain and some traditional examples of oat fermentation. We'll talk about the sad way that most oats are eaten these days, and then we'll get practical, and give you details of how to ferment your oats and, as you'll hear Andrea say early on, stay to the end for some potentially controversial information which has come from my latest research into oats and phytic acid. It's probably not what you're expecting to hear, it's certainly wasn't what what I was expecting to find out, and it's changed how I eat my oats.

This episode is literally jam-packed with information. You might need to listen to the science-y bits towards the end a couple of times to get them under your belt, but I hope it will inform, inspire and get you super-clear on this wonderful golden grain, and how you can bring it to life with fermentation in your own kitchen.

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31 May 2024June Special Announcement!00:00:51

Welcome to June! It's a wild month for both Alison and Andrea - Andrea is having a baby, and Alison is moving back from Italy to the UK! To celebrate all the big changes and upheaval in our lives we wanted to have something special for all our listeners.

We are offering a 16% discount - that is the maximum Patreon would allow us to give - on our annual Patreon supporter memberships. Sign up to be part of the community for a year - you'll make one payment and get all of the benefits for 12 months.

This sale runs only for June and all of June. It's a crazy month so we wanted to have a crazy sale! You can read all of the details and sign up by going to patreon.com/ancestralkitchenpodcast

29 Aug 2022#39 - The Sustainable Kitchen: Practical Advice01:13:48

From our kitchens, through what we do every single day, we can make a huge difference in the impact we have on the world. - Alison

Try to find what the land around you can provide and use that in your kitchen. That is the absolutely central thing to making your kitchen sustainable. - Alison

The idea of a sustainable kitchen is simultaneously alluring, and intimidating; not the least of which because as interest in this subject has grown, an entire host of products have ironically cropped feed on our lack of confidence and self-questioning when it comes to the world of ethical sustainability.

However, there is a type of sustainability that is, well, sustainable, and that is what we talk about in this episode. We also address some of the reasons we think it is so important to work towards a sustainable kitchen, and some of the practical tips we use to achieve this goal.

We have not always been so destructive, and extractive, and disposable in our habits and in our kitchens. Let's look back at what our grandmothers and great-grandmothers did.

- Alison

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10 Jan 2022Bonus Episode! The 2022 Ancestral Kitchen Challenge01:07:11

"The Ancestral Kitchen Challenge is here to spark your creative fire!" Andrea

We are excited to announce the 2022 Ancestral Kitchen Challenge! This challenge is designed to spark excitement and creativity in your kitchen and hopefully push you in a few areas to try something new or revisit something long forgotten. You can adjust every challenge to suit your unique kitchen, family and region!

In this episode Andrea and Alison discuss the 22 different challenge topics that are covered during the year, what sparked them and some different ways they could be imagined.

Download the challenge PDF

We hope you will share your challenge results with us! Tag the podcast, email Alison@ancestralkitchen.com or use the hashtag #ancestralkitchenchallenge !

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Time Stamps

1:51 What is The Ancestral Kitchen Challenge?

6:00 Make it your own!

6:30 Where to find the .pdf

7:00 #1 fermented drink

8.59 #2 book from the podcast

10:01 #3 bread

11:55 #4 kitchen scraps

13:13 #5 kitchen tool

15:16 #6 spice

16:18 #7 recipe exchange

17:38 #8 an elder

24:54 #9 broth

25:45 #10 recipe gift

16:56 #11 ferment

28:18 #12 dish known to locals

31:40 #13 offal

37:37 #14 fat

40:49 #15 herbs

45:03 #16 preserve something

46:17 #17 a previously-avoided recipe

48:46 #18 a meal entirely from your region

53:48 #19 go screen-free

1:01:55 #20 new cookbook

1:02:11 #21 make something from the podcast

1:02:41 #22 a meal from your genetic ancestors

1:04:54 How to share your challenges!

1:06:04 A page for your notes and the pdf

Resources Mentioned

The Literary Life Podcast (inspiration for this challenge!)

www.ancestralkitchen.com/challenge

Spices mentioned: Sumac, Cassia

Chewing the Fat by Karima Moyer-Nocchi

www.ancestralkitchen.com

www.farmandhearth.com

Renewing America's Food Traditions book

Renewing America's Food Traditions (RAFT) Alliance

01 Jul 2024#87 - Taking Your Health in Your Own Hands01:19:28

So many of us come to ancestral foods because of our own or our family’s health. We’ve tried what the mainstream medical model has to offer and we’re done with it. We want to look for and work with alternatives.

And that journey can be a lonely and fraught one. The world doesn’t provide much support for taking this road less travelled and yet, when doing hard things and making tough decisions we sooo need support.

That’s why we wanted to bring this episode, taking your health in your own hands, to the podcast. To offer perspective, support and encouragement to you, wherever you are on your health journey.

In it, Alison talks with her husband Rob. Between them they’ve had 40 years attempting to manage their health outside the mainstream.

They cover what taking your health in your own hands means and why you’d want to do it. They share some examples of where they’ve done this in our their lives including fertility, digestion, sleep and eyesight. They share what you need to be aware of along the way, what helps, how food plays into the journey, how to know when to call in help, the resources they’ve used and what this attitude to life and health has given them.

They also, in a special aftershow for patrons of the podcast, cover applying this philosophy to children, sharing some of the healing journey they've been through with their son. To access the aftershow, you can join our patreon community at the companionship level or above, there are details below.

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26 Aug 2024#90 - Cold Extract Honey with Prenten at Beehive State Honey01:19:31

What does "raw honey" really mean? How do you know if your honey is truly raw - is just the label enough? Are there different benefits to truly raw honey vs heated honey - even low heat temperature honey? And - how do you use truly raw honey? Does it ever go bad? How is it produced? Alison and I had so many questions all about honey and in this episode, Prenten, a beekeeper in Utah in the United States did an excellent job answering all of our questions - with some surprising answers.

Join our Patreon to support the podcast and check out the 40-minute Aftershow where Prenten and I went even deeper down some of the rabbit holes connected to beekeeping and raw honey. It was a wonderful visit, Alison and I both learned so much and we are excited to share this episode with you.

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13 Mar 2023#53 - Raw Milk: Our Ancestral Heritage01:28:06

Have you wondered if raw milk is truly safe? Why did we start pasteurizing it in the first place? Have our ancestors always drunk milk? What is the fermentation all about, and is it really necessary? In this episode, we will share some of what we have learned about raw milk over the past ten years. We will share some of the shocking history of the industrialization of milk, and we will also share why raw, living, un-tampered-with milk is considered a "perfect food". You will walk from this super excited about drinking raw milk, and you're probably going to want to buy a cow.

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06 Jan 2025#100 - What Is Ancestral Eating?01:23:06

What is ancestral eating?

After three years of recording podcast episodes, we thought it was about time we tackled this topic head-on. Because, although the word ancestral has become much more mainstream since we started, there is still much confusion about eating and living this way.

In this episode you will first hear us talk about what ancestral eating isn’t (including how it is different from eating carnivore or paleo) before we get onto defining what ancestral eating is. We will explain that it is not prescriptive, it's a philosophy and we will share what it means, practically, in the kitchen.

We both eat ancestrally, but our individual diets and kitchens look different we will outline that for you before talking about Who's Who in the ancestral eating world and giving you accessible and fun ways to move forward in your own ancestral kitchens.

Episode 100 is a huge milestone for us two ladies who love cooking and eating this way – please do share this episode and our podcast with anyone who you think would benefit from what we are up to.

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26 Feb 2024#78 - Broth: Your Questions Answered01:21:57

We asked for your questions on bone broth. And man, did you send them in!

Today's episode is dedicated to answering all the questions we received about the wonder that is bone broth. We will cover sourcing your bones, what types of bones to use, cooking broth – including equipment, timings, add-ins, how to make your broth thicker, thinner, stronger and weaker, the myriad of ways you can drink and eat your broth, nutrition and storage. There are so many ideas packed into these 75 minutes. So whether you're a beginner at broth or via making it for years I'm sure you're find help and encouragement in this episode.

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Get 10% off any course at The Fermentation School: click here and use code AKP at checkout.

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03 Mar 2025#104 - Baking with Ancient Grains01:20:12

Download the free, 30-page guide Baking with Ancient Grains here

Alison has just released a free 30-page guide to baking with ancient grains and this companion podcast episode will give you everything you need to know to bring the world of ancient grain baking into your own kitchen.

We'll define an ancient grain, we'll talk about why they're different to modern wheat and how that change happened, Alison will share why she believes ancient grains are so important in our modern world and then talk about how you can bring them into your own baking.

We'll give examples of gluten and gluten-free ancient grains and explain how you can bake with them. We'll also talk through the five delicious ancient grain recipes that are in Alison's free guide which you can get by navigating to https://ancestralkitchen.com/ancientgrains

I addition to all of this, there is also an after show for supporters the podcast where we answer a listener question about when to soak, sprout and ferment your grains and what the differences are between the three options.

Let's dive in...

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Get 10% off any course at The Fermentation School: click here and use code AKP at checkout.

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23 Sep 2024#92 - Introduction to Ancestral Superfoods (and much more!) with Ben Greenfield01:03:34

There are so many supplements out there that, if we believe the advertising, we should be taking. It's confusing and even when we have the funds to dip our toes in, it's challenging to know where to start. Today's guest, Ben Greenfield, knows a lot about supplements and ancestral living in general. My family has been learning from his work for over a decade. We first heard about the light toxicity of modern devices and the benefits of cold exposure from him.

In this episode Ben and I talk about so many things: light, dentistry, the importance of eating in a parasympathetic state, Ben's daily family routine and his philosophy on parenting and homeschooling, and then we dive into Ben's expertise on ancestral superfood supplements and cover two different ways of thinking about how to choose supplementation for yourself and your family. Ben really knows his stuff - this episode is absolutely chock full of information and insight.

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Spelt Sourdough Every Day

Alison's course, Rye Sourdough Bread: Mastering The Basics is here, with a 10% discount applied!

Alison's Sowans oat fermentation course is here, with a 10% discount applied!

Get 10% off any course at The Fermentation School: click here and use code AKP at checkout.

Get 10% off US/Canada Bokashi supplies: click here and use code AKP.

Get 10% off UK Bokashi supplies.

Visit our (non-Amazon!) bookshop for a vast selection of ancestral cookbooks: US link here and UK link here.

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05 Dec 2022#46 - How To Feed The World Sustainably With Sir Patrick Holden01:08:55

So you are really passionate about regenerative, sustainable agriculture and food, right?

And how many times have you heard, "Yes, that's all very nice but you couldn't feed the world that way; it wouldn't work at scale!"

In this episode I talk to Sir Patrick Holden, the man who's building the roadmap to show us that it could.

You'll hear us talk about his latest research into how the UK could feed itself using fertiliser/pesticide-free sustainable agriculture (with no grain-fed animals!), the tools to take this global, and how this lifetime campaigner for sustainable animal-involved agriculture feels about lab meat, supermarkets, ground-up change and much more.

We're so grateful to him for sharing a little of his 50 year career as both a farmer and an activist with us.

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Get 10% off any course at The Fermentation School: click here and use code AKP at checkout.

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What We Talk About:

* The Sustainable Food Trust's recent report 'Feeding Britain From The Ground...

14 Aug 2023#64 - Better Broths & Healing Tonics01:08:21

Better Broths and Healing Tonics is a book that blew us away when we found it earlier this year. It is so thorough, so accessible and so creative – sharing many ways to make broths, and make them easy, plus incredible healing recipes for broth tonics, infusions, blends and meals.

In this episode, Andrea interviews half of the pair that created the book, Jill Sheppard Davenport. They talk about healing with nutrition and how Jill, as an experienced practitioner, approaches it. Jill shares her broth tips and tricks and also talks about the revelation to me in the book – sweet broth.

As Jill says early in the episode, “there’s so much healing possible in your kitchen”. Listen into Andrea’s chat with this expert and get playing with broth!

We have a copy of the book to giveaway!! Stay to the end, and we'll explain how you can win your own copy of Better Broths and Healing Tonics. And if you’re a patreon, check out the treasure trove where you’ll find two of our favourite recipes from the book.

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Get 10% off any course at The Fermentation School: click here and use code AKP at checkout.

Get 10% off US/Canada Bokashi supplies: click here and use code AKP.

Get 10% off UK Bokashi supplies.

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12 Sep 2022#40 - 26,000 Nutrient-Dense Meals with Lunch Leader Hilary Boynton01:14:39

"Last year we served 26,000 meals to kids and that's not including snacks...next year 44,000 meals."

Today we talk with an amazing woman. Hilary Boynton is not only a mother feeding 6 kids, she's not only the author of the GAPS cookbook Heal Your Gut, but as you just heard she's a powerhouse who went into her kid's school and when offered the keys to the kitchen, said yes and transformed the menu serving them nutrient dense foods like organ meats, raw butter and kefir, bone broth and beet kvass.

Listen in to hear:

  • How, as a mum, she took over her children's school food, transforming what was served into real, nutrient dense food.
  • The differences she's witnessed to the children, the parents and the school community.
  • How she's taken what she's learnt and is teaching others to be lunch leaders globally.
  • How she's stayed sane through all of this; mothering 6 children whilst also working from 5am to feed a school.

Hilary has vision, enthusiasm and such a go-do-it attitude yet she's also incredibly practical, forgiving and loving. You won't fail to be inspired.

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Get 10% off any course at The Fermentation School: click here and use code AKP at checkout.

Get 10% off US/Canada Bokashi supplies: click here and use code AKP.

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14 Mar 2022#27 - Four Ancestral Mamas Around The Table01:06:24

How do you eat ancestrally on a budget? What about burnout and decision fatigue? Alison and Andrea sit down with Christine and Corey from the Modern Ancestral Mamas Podcast with a stack of your questions, and all share resources and ideas to tackle each one! This will definitely go down in the books as one of our favorite episodes ever, as the four of us seriously enjoyed talking together and working through these issues as a group.

Be sure to check out Part One of this conversation over at the Modern Ancestral Mamas Podcast - "Relationships + Ancestral Food + How to Do It All"!

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For $9 a month (or equivalent in your currency) you'll be helping us with the costs of recording, editing and putting this work into the world. And you'll get to be part of our world on a deeper level - we've got a monthly intimate patron-exclusive podcast called Kitchen Table Chats and we're also going to share cooking classes, extra interviews and much more.

Check out www.patreon.com/ancestralkitchenpodcast for all the details!

Here's what we talk about:

00:31 Introducing the episode

08:46 Welcome!

09:05 Question 1: How to avoid burnout

15:06 Question 2: Are organic bones absolutely necessary for bone broth? What if we can't find them?

22:17 Question 3: How do you manage all the ferments? How do you even make water kefir!?

29:29 Question 4: What are some meal train ideas for a new mom, for family members who want to help out after baby is born?

38:45 Gary's advice for when a family has a new baby!

39:12 Question 5: How has diet affected your little one's sleep?

47:29 Question 6: Tips for a mama on a budget - and when the budget is tight, what do you prioritize?

1:00:19 Question 7: Tell us your favorite resources for eating ancestrally - either podcasts or books!

Resources Mentioned

Corey Dunn on Instagram

Christine Muldoon on Instagram

Modern Ancestral Mamas Podcast

M.A.M. Interview with Alison and Andrea

When Andrea says "this book" in the introduction, she was referring to Nourishing Traditions by Sally Fallon Morell

Corey's Blog Post: What to Bring to a New Mom

The Nourishing Traditions Book of Baby & Child Care

Eat Like a Human by Dr. Bill Schindler

21 Nov 2022#45 - Fermenting Trash in the Kitchen01:07:00

I think the whole world should be doing this! - Alison

It just makes everything more pleasant with your food waste -

there is no rotting, no flies. - Tjasa

You know that Alison is always fermenting weird and strange things but when she told me she was fermenting her trash - it was a new level. I had to know more.

A little over a year ago, Alison off-hand mentioned something she called bokashi, and I had to ask her, "What IS that?" It turns out bokashi is the Japanese word for compost, and Alison had purchased a tool that she used to ferment her food waste - even bones & fat, anything she didn't use or that went bad - into compost tea and compost, which she was using in her porch garden.

As you have seen on her instagram, she produced some incredible vegetables with the help of that nutrient dense lacto fermented suplementation for her plants. I know that any purchase Alison makes is extremely well thought-out and researched and, yes, she did her research on the bokashi process. She read books, watched videos, explored DIY options, and she did her due diligence to study this two-bucket system that we are going to talk today, as well as the inoculant that she adds to the food waste to compost it.

This fermentation process can be done in the house, it has no smell, it doesn't attract fruit flies, and you can use the compost and the compost tea in your big garden, small garden and more.

In this episode, Alison and I will explain the process of fermenting waste, the bacterial inoculant that is used to ferment the food waste so efficiently and completely, and then we will actually interview the US and Canada supplier that makes the two-bucket system that Alison is using. Alison will ask her some more technical questions and we will come back to wrap up, and you can get about your day fermenting your trash!

Check out the Bokashi system here, and use the code AKP for 10% off!

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Get 10% off any course at The Fermentation School: click here and use code AKP at checkout.

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24 Oct 2022#43 Fertility - It's More Than Just Pregnancy!01:25:45

I was diagnosed with PCOS when I was about fourteen... My periods were heavy and irregular... The doctor put me on the Pill at fourteen... I was about 27 when I stopped taking the Pill. - Alison

Fertility is an indication of peak health - a healthy human should be fertile for as long as possible. This indicates optimal endocrine, metabolic and nervous system functioning, as well as adequate-to-optimal nourishment. In our modern-day thinking, we have reduced fertility to simply something you look at when you want to get pregnant, and we casually ignore warning signs from our body when our fertility, metabolic and endocrine systems are crashing.

In this episode, we recount Alison's incredible fertility journey, what the doctors told her about her hopes of ever conceiving naturally, and what she found as a solution.

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Alison's course, Rye Sourdough Bread: Mastering The Basics is here, with a 10% discount applied!

Alison's Sowans oat fermentation course is here, with a 10% discount applied!

Get 10% off any course at The Fermentation School: click here and use code AKP at checkout.

Get 10% off US/Canada Bokashi supplies: click here and use code AKP.

Get 10% off UK Bokashi supplies.

Visit our (non-Amazon!) bookshop for a vast selection of ancestral cookbooks: US link here and UK link here.

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The Run Down:

21:19 Fertility - it isn't just relevant if you want to get pregnant!

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01 Aug 2022#37 - A Peek Into Alison & Rob's Ancestral Lifestyle01:10:36

“’OK,’ you say, “Well, there’s organic food in the supermarket.” It’s unaffordable, it is so expensive. Whereas if you buy from the people who you actually meet and you know, cut out all the middlemen, suddenly this good food becomes affordable.”

As a podcast listener you have already enjoyed Rob's original music in the intro, as well as the benefits of his careful mixing and editing - now he gets to sit in front of the microphone and share some of his thoughts!

Alison and Rob have spent a lifetime cultivating and working towards an ancestral lifestyle that encompasses every aspect of their lives, not just the meals on the table. In this intimate episode, they sit down together on a very hot summer day to share some details of their lives and how they have shaped their days into a rhythmic, peaceful pattern that serves them the way they need it to.

“When I die, I will have spent a lot of years washing up.”

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Get 10% off any course at The Fermentation School: click here and use code AKP at checkout.

Get 10% off US/Canada Bokashi supplies: click here and use code AKP.

Get 10% off UK Bokashi supplies.

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22 Apr 2024#82 - Home-Milling Flour for the Best Bread!01:10:20

I know milling my own flour is better and I want to do it, but where do I start?

Home milling can be such a joy and we’re here in this episode to guide you through all the hows.

We’ll talk the multiple benefits of milling at home and fill any gaps in knowledge you might have. We’ll explain how you can grind a grain, what mills are available for your kitchen and the benefits of each one, then I’ll share how I mill at home, the organisation around it and what I make. And stay till the end as we’ll also squeeze in a chat about how home-milled flour is different to shop bought and how you can best work with this amazing food stuff in your own kitchen.

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The organ supplements we use and trust – get a 5% discount (and free shipping) on grass-fed supplements, including liver capsules by visiting: https://www.oneearthhealth.com/AncestralKitchen

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Spelt Sourdough Every Day

Alison's course, Rye Sourdough Bread: Mastering The Basics is here, with a 10% discount applied!

Alison's Sowans oat fermentation course is here, with a 10% discount applied!

Get 10% off any course at The Fermentation School: click here and use code AKP at checkout.

Get 10% off US/Canada Bokashi supplies: click here and use code AKP.

Get 10% off UK Bokashi supplies.

Visit our (non-Amazon!) bookshop for a vast selection of ancestral cookbooks: US link here and UK link here.

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Our podcast is supported by Patrons in ancestral kitchens around the world!

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05 Dec 2023#72 - All About Spelt Sourdough01:09:30

Spelt is a wonderful, economical alternative to wheat. I've been baking with it for a decade now and I love its deep, nutty flavour, its flexibility and its digestibility - many people who don't get on with wheat can enjoy spelt, especially if it's in a sourdough loaf.

Whether you've tried spelt or not, this episode will give you everything you need to know to get the most from this grain in your own kitchen. And we'll celebrate the podcast's second ecookbook, Sourdough Spelt Every Day, that distils so much of my baking experience into a guide that'll get you rustling up all manner of spelt goodies to enjoy!

Get your copy of Sourdough Spelt Every Day here!

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09 Nov 2021#19 - All About Grains: Preparing, Processing and Digesting!01:34:03

"Not all grains are equal" Alison

With the myriad of anti-grain messaging in the food world, it's easy to think that eating grains is anything but healthy. In this episode, Andrea and Alison dig a little deeper - they cover the history of grains, why some diets exclude them and share their insight around the importance of and how to prepare, cook and eat them. Whether you enjoy grains regularly, have problems digesting them, are unsure of which grains to eat and how to process them or want to reintroduce grains into your diet, there's something in this episode for you.

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The run down:

The podcast always starts off with a catch up and discussion of recent meals.

13:44 History of grains & their importance in mankind's history

23:00 Why people avoid grains

"If the only grain we knew was a soaked soured spelt and a soured einkorn, would we be treating grains the way we do now?" Andrea

38:30 The many ways to process grains so that they are a beneficial food and how to reintroduce grains into your diet

50:13 The 'spectrum of grains' - ancient, gluten-free & lectin-free and which of these Alison and Andrea eat

1:02:19 How Alison and Andrea include grains in their day/week

"Experiment and learn to be okay eating something different than what others at your table are eating" Alison

Resources Mentioned:

Gilly Smith - How To Eat To Save The Planet podcast

Downton Abbey

Sitopia by Carolyn Steel

History of Food Podcast

Nourishing Diets by Sally Fallon Morell

An article about the Nourishing Diets book

Nicolette Hahn Niman - podcast interview on Sustainable Food Stories

Defending Beef, 2nd Ed, by Nicolette Hahn Niman

G.K. Chesterton quote

"Tradition means giving votes to the most obscure of all the classes, our ancestors. It is the democracy of the dead. Tradition refuses to submit to the small and arrogant oligarchy of those who...

03 Feb 2025#102 - The Guide to Getting Out of Supermarkets01:32:20

How, when you’ve got limited money, no spare time and family who are used to eating what they eat…

How when you can’t find alternatives, don’t have the room to grow it yourself and don’t have the headspace…

How do you get out of supermarkets?

In this, our Guide to Getting Out of Supermarkets episode, we’ll give you a stack of practical ideas (from us and from our supporters) that'll change things up.

You’ll leave inspired, tooled-up and as ready as we can ever help you be to have your home turn its back on our industrial food system and say hello to sane, local supplies; food as it is meant to be.

And, as requested by supporters, we kept the recording running and talked about the other place most of us want to get away from, but find incredibly hard: Amazon. This extra recording will be going up on our private podcast feed for supporters of the show.

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13 Sep 2021#15 - Our Favorite Kitchen Tools01:19:25

"Tools and gadgets sometimes take advantage of our lack of confidence" -Andrea

Alison and Andrea discuss what tools they utilize in their kitchens and try to narrow down which ones they couldn't live without!

"The merit lies not in the possession of the object but in putting it to use" - Honey from Weed

This is what is covered:

7:05 Kitchen tools

8:25 Alison shares the kitchen tools she uses

23:35 Andrea shares the kitchen tools she uses

42:00 Water filtration talk

48.00 Andrea and Alison quiz each other on the whys and wherefores of their kitchen equipment usage

1:11:00 Top five essential tools

Resources Mentioned

DIY proofing box

BWT is at https://bwt.com

Wise Traditions Nutritious Movement episode

Honey from a Weed

The Nourishing Traditions Cookbook has a section on equipment: pages 66-68

Andrea's Probe thermometer

Alison's List of Tools

  • Hand-crank grain mill
  • Slow cooker (used for stock, lard, tallow, bread, stew, cooking heart/tongue and to ferment beer!!!)
  • Cast iron pan
  • Mortar & pestle x 2
  • Knives
  • Saucepans - milk, 8 inch frying pan, 2 medium saucepans, 1 big saucepan
  • 6 sieves!!
  • 2 of each tongs, fish slice and spoons
  • wooden mallet
  • 4 stainless steel bowls (important that they are light and non breakable)
  • 3 loaf tins
  • pizza stone
  • Food processor with bowl, small bowl, jug and coffee grinder
  • Chopping boards, wooden and plastic
  • Glass jars all sizes (from 150ml to 5 litres)
  • Swing-top bottles
  • Cloth jar covers (most of these are old linens bought when her son was a baby)
  • Proofing box (instructions linked above)
  • Oven gloves
  • Tsp/tbsp measurers
  • Cup measurers
  • 2 set of scales, one accurate to .01g, one for larger amounts
  • Cleaning brushes for the bottles
  • Tupperware containers, most plastic, some glass
  • Cheap dehydrator
  • Salad spinner
  • Grater
  • 2 cake tins
  • 2 funnels (one big, one tiny)

Andrea's List of Tools

  • Ice cube trays
  • Coolers
  • Busing tubs
  • Large kettle
  • Large metal mixing bowls
  • Cast iron dutch oven
  • Cast iron skillet
  • Vitamix blender
  • Excalibur dehydrator
  • Ice cream churn
  • Pizza churn
  • Measuring cups and spoons
  • Mortar & pestle
  • Coffee grinder & coffee gadgets
  • Shears
  • Jars, Lids, & Lifters
  • Pressure canners
  • Parchment Paper
  • Strainers/Colanders, Large & Small
  • Grolsch swing top bottles
  • Tumbler/Insulated drinking cup
  • Baskets (For bread, eggs, etc)
  • Probe Thermometer
  • Shun Offset bread knife
  • Breaking knife
  • Bone saw
  • Knife sharpener
  • Peeler
  • Cheese slicer
  • Milk bottles w/Lids
  • Funnels (narrow and canning)
  • Water pitcher
  • Berkey water filter
  • Casserole pans
  • Food scale
  • Instant...
12 Feb 2024#77 - Veganism, Conscious Slaughter, Safe Meat Fermentation & Nitrates with Meredith Leigh01:05:21

Meredith Leigh is an ex-vegan now butcher, a butchery teacher, an author, a kitchen experimenter extraordinaire and meat fermenter, co-founder of The Fermentation School and a mum.

She has so much to share and this is an intimate and engaging conversation. We cover some really important questions including conscious animal slaughter, Meredith's transition from veganism to ethical meat, the safety worries around fermenting meat and the one we get so many questions about: nitrates in meat.

Patrons of the podcast check your private feed for a moving after show where Meredith reads a piece from one of her books.

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16 Jan 2023#49 - Traditional Slovakian Food01:24:49

Naomi Huzovicova is a passionate and talented ancestral cook, a food story discoverer and an amazing photographer. She has lived and cooked up Slovakian food culture for 17 years and we're grateful to her for sharing so much of its uniqueness with us.

In this episode we open up the rich world that is Slovakian food. Naomi explains what it is, and importantly why it is like that. You'll get a history lesson via our talk of ferments, bread and fats, and you'll get to know two simple dishes that represent Slovakian food that you'll want to cook up in your kitchens right away.

Due to tech issues the audio quality on this episode is not as good as normal, but the content is top-notch!

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20 Jan 2025#101 - Tending to Health in Times of Flu, Sickness or Recovery01:21:24

How does one prepare for times of illness? Having supplies on hand, such as home remedies, some handy rubrics and rules of thumb in your back pocket, and healing foods prepared and set aside for such a time, are steps the wise person takes to avoid being caught off guard and unprepared. In this episode, Alison and Andrea will talk about some favorite tools and remedies they keep on hand, as well as procedures they use, in times of illness. This episode is not medical advice. Your personal health is between you and your Maker.

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06 Jun 2022#33 - The Fats We Love, the Fats We Leave01:07:09

I don’t use butter that often – but sometimes I’m really in a buttery mood and I’ll fry my pancake in ghee. – Alison

For several decades, fats were vilified as the source of many health problems and were avoided by many, including Alison - she avoided all fats, completely, for ten years. The distinction that was lost in this macro witch-hunt was WHICH fats were a problem for our health - because some of them very much ARE a problem, while others are necessary for optimal health. However, the problem fats are the ones being promoted, marketed and sold to people in mass quantities today, and nourishing ancestral fats are being cast aside.

Alison and Andrea discuss which fats are optimal for our ancestral kitchens, a little bit about the ones to avoid, and share some of the shocking story on the origin of Crisco.

For more details on the origin of Crisco, images from the 1912 marketing book and a collection of vintage lard recipes, check out our Patreon offerings.

"We buy pig back fat from Flavio, my farmer, and then we render it ourselves once every six weeks." - Alison

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25 Mar 2024#80 - Feeding Babies & Children Nutrient-Dense Food with Christine Muldoon01:22:08

Feeding babies and children a nutrient-dense ancestral diet is something that many moms have questions about. Whether the questions are "how do I start my child off on the right foot" or "I have older kids and we are just coming to this ancestral diet now - help, how do I transition them to this good food!" - these are things that we think about. Here to help us today is Christine Muldoon, from The Modern Ancestral Mamas Podcast. Christine and her co-host Corey were on our podcast a long time ago, episode # 27, and Christine is back to give us more of her great wisdom for feeding children.

Topics today range from breastfeeding and the WAPF formula, to connection at the table and during mealtime; when do you start bringing children to the table and why that timing is so important; to picky eating and family food values and so much more. This is a wonderful conversation, Alison and I both enjoyed visiting with Christine so much. Patrons, be sure to hit your private podcast feed for a short aftershow with Christine where we hit her with one more question!

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03 Jul 2023#61 - Being 'Part of the Herd' on a Small Scale Organic Dairy Farm01:03:38

Rebecca Holden looks after a large organic dairy herd in Wales in the United Kingdom and makes raw, cheddar-style cheese from their milk.

Mainstream milk/cheese markets seem to be increasingly led by large, chemically-sustained dairies that subvert nature and force cows into unnatural production routines, resulting in inferior dairy products landing on grocery store shelves - and yet, Rebecca’s farm has been there doing things organically for 50 years…. We really wanted to know about her world, and we really wanted to share it with you.

*We had a technical glitch just before the episode started, so had to bring in IT back up. It means the recording is not as clear as it could be, but the conversation is so informative, inspiring and life-affirming that we are sure you'll love every minute!*

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17 Mar 2025#105 - 16 Breakfasts with Traditional Foods (Fast, Prep-Ahead, and On the Go!)01:25:16

What are some traditional foods we can eat for breakfast, and do we have examples of ancestral breakfasts in history? In this episode Alison and I got together to talk about what we eat to start the day. We included a variety of “types” of breakfasts. First, we start out with fast breakfasts, things you can make very quickly. Whether you’re going to school, you have kids going to school, or you homeschool - there’s not a lot of time in the morning typically to linger over a long breakfast. We then included some longer prep but hands-off breakfasts. Things you could make if you were getting up early; you could start it simmering or baking and then head off to chores and come back to a finished breakfast. Next, we covered some portable breakfasts. These are things you could take in the train, in the car, I guess in your carriage, and get out doing chores or heading into town.

We have a lot of delicious breakfasts here and went way over the number of breakfasts I intended! We got some really delicious ones for you! I am looking forward to hearing your feedback. For supporters of the podcast, I put all my notes including all the breakfasts Alison and I discussed here in the download section for podcast supporters. The resources for everybody listening to this episode are awesome, there are a ton of recipes linked in the show notes, so go down and grab those links so you can make all these delicious meals for your family!

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22 May 2023#58 - Ancestral Cooking for Schools & Retreats with Hilary Boynton01:17:30

Hilary Boynton is the creator of the School of Lunch, a week long academy held a few times a year that teaches attendees from around the world how to put together incredible nourishing ancestral traditional food programs that they can use in whatever application they need – in running a school lunch program which is what Hilary does in California, in a business, for retreats or wellness spaces, at home or wherever they wish to implement a meal program. In this episode I got to sit down with Hilary and ask her to give me a peek into what happens at their academy. Listeners will be fascinated to hear the different topics she chooses to cover in her training, why she chose to cover them in her academy and who is on her rotating list of guest speakers. Hilary’s optimism and hope, her strong positive energy and her belief in the power of good food to heal our bodies comes through strongly in this episode. I am in awe of the possibilities and power of taking her food program into schools, homes and businesses around the world.

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15 Jul 2024#88 - Growing, Storing and Using Garlic: A Patron Special Episode01:17:15

Megan is a podcast listener, turned podcast patron, turned podcast admin! She is now working for the Ancestral Kitchen Podcast and it has been so wonderful having her helping Alison and I out. This is a very special episode that we recorded just for patrons of the podcast, and it went up on a private podcast feed where we have over 80+ episodes that are just special bonuses for patrons of the podcast who are helping support it and keep us on the air. Megan and her partner are garlic and lamb farmers; and we asked the patrons of the podcast for all their questions about garlic, and then Megan answered every single one. Everything ranging from varieties and planting methods, harvesting and storing, different uses for garlic as well as ways of cooking with garlic - all the way up to medicinal benefits and even talking about Megan's garlic festival! This is such a fun episode and I think you will enjoy getting to hear this intimate conversation from the private patron feed as a special summer bonus!

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10 Apr 2023#55 - Anita from Weston A Price Recipes01:04:45

Making the Weston A Price principles accessible, simple, and approachable for everybody is what Anita is so good at. Anita is a wife and mother living in Colorado, USA, serving up delicious, nourishing meals every day. She has mastered the ancestral food principles, and she can teach you how to roast a whole chicken and make the gravy in just a few sentences! She shares these recipes generously at westonapricerecipes.com. Andrea got to sit down with her today and learn about the health crisis that drove Anita towards ancestral food, what she and her children did when they discovered tooth decay, how she doesn’t menu plan - that rebellious love of flexibility helps to create the easy recipes she shares with all of us. We also talked about her Ukrainian and Indian food background, reducing stress in the kitchen and so much more. We finished this episode feeling refreshed, encouraged, and ready for some whipped raspberry panna cotta! Patrons supporting the podcast are invited to check the podcast Treasure Trove for a few of our favorite recipes from Anita’s website in a printable PDF, as well as a bonus after-show conversation.

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25 Oct 2021#18 - Comfort Foods01:18:41

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"When you sit down and savour the moment, food becomes naturally comforting because it's the moment that matters" Alison

What comes to mind when you think about comfort food? Where's the line between enjoying a food for the pleasure it brings and turning to it to keep going? What state do we need to be in ourselves to really enjoy our food? Who's shaping the foods we relax with?

These are all questions that Alison and Andrea dive into in this episode, exploring their very different histories with comfort food. Whether you're a warm, creamy and luxurious or a simple, rustic and bready kinda-eater, there's something that'll get you thinking in here!

The run down:

2:50 Patreon news and the injeera video

4:10 Breakfast/lunch chit-chat including pancakes, polenta bread and lardo

12:25 Comfort foods intro

13:12 Defining comfort foods

15:56 Alison & Andrea discuss addiction

20:30 Andrea's definition of comfort foods

25:50 Is it the food or the process?

"When we bake bread, we fall into an older part of our nature" Alison

28:52 Peasant food

31:20 Epicurus

33:10 Snacking

"It's OK to be hungry!" - Andrea

46:30 Alison talking about not eating sugar

51:00 Snacks v family meals

54:15 Observing cravings & trusting oneself

1:00:28 Andrea's cookie trick & shaping our children's comfort foods

1:04:35 The importance of making food

1:12:00 A new definition of comfort foods

"The deepest pleasure in food is to be hungry and to eat and drink simply" Alison (paraphrasing Epicurus!)

*Sorry for the sometimes variable audio quality on this episode - we are doing our best!*

Resources Mentioned:

Alison's sourdough porridge, polenta and polenta bread videos

Flavio, Alison's farmer

The blog post of Alison's describing her life shifts that Andrea refers to

Sitopia by Carolyn Steel

Why We Get Fat by Gary Taubes

A' la Recherche du Temps Perdu by Marcel Proust

"Since incorporating fats back into my diet all that stuff with the foods I couldn't stop eating has just disappeared" Alison

Thank you for listening - we'd love to continue the conversation.

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14 Feb 2022#25 - Holistic Hilda from the Wise Traditions Podcast00:50:12

I have hope because I feel that enough of us know that there is a way out. - Hilda

Hilda Labrada Gore is one of the most well-known voices in the ancestral health space. As the presenter of the hugely popular Wise Traditions podcast, she has spoken with health, agriculture and wellness leaders from all corners of the globe! Today, instead, she gets to take the guest seat and be the subject of a podcast interview! Alison and Andrea each brought their questions and asked her about what she has learned from hosting over 350 interviews in seven years, what she loves to prepare in her own kitchen, podcasting gaffes and more.

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Resources Mentioned

Health is our body's default setting. - Hilda

Weston A. Price Foundation

Find your WAPF chapter!

Sally Fallon Morell

Hilda's Website

Hilda's Instagram

Wise Traditions Conference

Wise Traditions Podcast

You Heal You: The Tommy John Podcast

The Nourishing Traditions Book

There's No Such Thing As Bad Weather by Linda Åkeson McGurk

The Junk Light Episode on Wise Traditions

Whiffletree Farm in Virginia

Wendell Berry

Joel Salatin

The Big Fat Surprise website

The Big Fat Surprise book

07 Nov 2022#44 - How To Run A 'Made From Scratch' Homestead With Melissa K Norris01:20:57

"For 18 years my husband and I both worked day jobs off the farm...so we had to have systems in place to still be able to farm and to raise as much of our food as we possibly could"

Melissa K Norris is a 5th generation homesteader, a mother, an author, a podcaster and an incredible wealth of experience and information on how to thrive living close to the land.

Listen in to our interview with her to hear:

  • An invaluable insider look into her farm, routine and life
  • How she prepares her family's food for the week on a Sunday
  • Her hard and fast rules for her kids and food
  • Her insight onto the many ways to earn income from your farm (I promise there'll be ones in here you've never thought of!)
  • And how she does it all...including being able to look like she hasn't just come off a farm when she actually has!

This interview is chock full of gems that'll fill out your knowledge, make your life easier and make you smile.

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05 Jun 2023#59 - Alison & Rob's Personal Experience with GAPS01:13:32

Have you ever thought the GAPS protocol might be for you? Are you considering trying it, or you’ve just heard about it and wonder how it fits into a healing journey? Are you struggling to bring grains into your diet without digestive issues, or wondering what you can do to replenish a gut system damaged by antibiotics? This is the episode for you.

We've had conversations with so many of you about GAPS, the Gut and Psychology Syndrome diet created by Dr Natasha Campbell McBride, so it is time to share Alison’s story.

Alison, along with her husband, Rob, and their then almost 2-year-old son, followed the GAPS protocol for over 2 years. In this episode they open the door on that time and share their personal experience - why they embarked on GAPS, how they organised their kitchen, their practical routines, what they found challenging, what results they experienced, how they transitioned off GAPS and how their healing has moved on since then.

With characteristic dry humour from Rob, witty repartee from Alison and of course an appearance of the famous squash pancakes, this episode is both entertaining and highly informative with a strong message of hope and solidarity for everyone working to find healing.

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07 Oct 2024#93 - How to Make Confit, Rilettes and Terrines00:51:58

Today we got to sit down again with Meredith Leigh, a butcher and author of The Ethical Meat Handbook, and ask her a lot of questions about Confit, Rilette and Terrines. Meredith has a course on these three items - including headcheese, by the way - a course which Alison and I both took, and made use of in our own kitchens, and we loved the tasty results so much we wanted to ask Meredith more and get her on the air so you could hear her talk about these incredible versatile and thrifty preparation and preservation methods of storing meat, fat and scraps that honestly would often otherwise end up in the trash. Gary and I learned to make our new favorite lunch meat spread by going through this process, and made what is now going to be a staple every time we process a pig - and we cannot wait to try these processes with ducks, sheep, beef, turkey and other animals we raise on the farm. I look forward to hearing about all the variety of spices and means you will use to make these delightful, ancestral dishes. Enjoy the episode, and - warning - you might get a little hungry.

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27 Mar 2023#54 - What Have We Done To Beer?! (& What Can We Do About It?)01:12:46

Did you know that women have been the predominant brewers of beer throughout history....up to just 400 years ago?

How about that up till that same time period beer tasted completely different to the beer we are used to now?

Join us in this episode to hear the real story of beer, how we messed it up and why Alison is passionate about bringing beer back where it belongs - the kitchen!

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11 Oct 2021#17 - Pre, Pro, Parapro & Post - Biotics01:12:17

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"Fermented foods are the way to go. They taste nice, they're cheap and they're totally accessible" Alison

In this episode, Alison and Andrea discuss all the biotics, how and why to nurture and include them in your diet!

The run down:

We start by welcoming our new community member, sharing about how to access our just uploaded soap-making chat and talking about food - specifically heart, lard, bread, pulses (and shelling them) and pancakes.

17:00 Intro to the everything-biotics episode!

17:07 What are prebiotics

20:50 FODMaps

23:15 Andrea talks about the Nourishing Traditions book of Baby and Child Care and its explanation of how the gut works

24:23 What are probiotics

"We've been a generation and a half without fermented foods at every meal and we are paying the price for it" Andrea

28:15 The differences between lacto-fermentation and alcoholic fermentation

33:04 A day in the life of probiotic-munching in Andrea and Alison's households

35:52 How probiotics stop Alison sleeping

39:00 How to introduce probiotic foods

40:59 Tablets vs. live probiotics

48:17 Rebuilding our biome, having patience and antibiotics

"It's the work of a lifetime to culture what's inside of us" Alison

1:02:07 Paraprobiotics and Postbiotics

1:10:00 Biotics wrap up!

"Your sauerkraut does not have to be old to have a lot of probiotics in it" Alison

Resources Mentioned:

Elly's sourdough episode of the podcast

Farmstead Meatsmith Podcast

Alison's blog post "What are Paraprobiotics and Postbiotics?"

Nourishing Tradition's Book of Baby and Child Care Andrea read 'lacto-fermentation' on page 26 and 'a schedule for introducing probiotics to someone who is not accustomed to to having them' on page 27.

Chris Kresser's podcast Revolution Health Radio

We mention Kitchen Table Chats; this is the podcast we record for our Patrons. Check out the community here.

HIlary Boynton's School of Lunch episode of the Wise Traditions Podcast her book is called 'Heal Your Gut'

Christopher Shockey's Ferment Nerds newsletter on substack

Wild Fermentation Alison read from page 10

Alison's Sourdough Pizza Recipe

Thank you for listening - we'd love to continue the conversation.

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12 Apr 2021#4 - The 5 Most Expensive (And Yet The Cheapest) Foods01:24:03

"We make our bone broth almost exclusively out of garbage."

What if eating real food didn't have to be prohibitively expensive? The most nutritious, real, nourishing foods have traditionally been the cheapest and simplest - conversely, the expensive, rich meals of the wealthy were often laborious productions involving sweets and refined foods.

It's time to take back our ancestral wisdom and reclaim foods and skills that once belonged to the people, and have now been relegated to super-expensive and elite grocery stores at staggering prices.

In this episode, Andrea and Alison will discuss five of the most expensive "healthy" foods you can buy - which also happen to be five of the cheapest foods you can make at home!

It should be noted these cost assessments all assume you will be purchasing the ingredients - many of these can be easily raised at home OR obtained for free through invested relationships with farmers.

We will briefly cover the cost of purchasing versus making at home, processes for making, and our favorite resources for each of the following:

Bone broth (12:05)

Sourdough bread* (24:22)

*For a full episode discussing sourdough, there will be a later episode on the podcast!

Kombucha & Water Kefir (35:14)

Kefir & Yoghurt (48:40)

Sauerkraut (1:04:30)

Resources mentioned, in approximate order of appearance:

Andrea quoted from the Radical Homemakers book by Shannon Hayes

Frequently mentioned: The Art of Fermentation by Sandor Ellix Katz

Bone Broth Resources

Nourishing Traditions by Sally Fallon

Nourishing Broth by Sally Fallon Morell

Bone broth and boullion cubes on Andrea's blog

Sourdough Bread Resources

The Rye Baker

Alison’s Blog

How to Create a Sourdough Starter by Alison

The Fresh Loaf online forum

Artisan Breads Every Day by Peter Reinhart (with sourdough pizza crust recipe)

How to restart a sourdough

Traditional Cooking School sourdough posts

Briefly mentioned

GAPS diet mentioned offhand by Andrea

Kombucha Resources

Kombucha recipes on Andrea’s blog

Kombucha flavorings on Andrea’s blog

08 May 2023#57 - Celebrating the Ancestral Food of Wales01:10:30

In this episode, Alison talks to Carwyn Graves, author of Welsh Food Stories, a beautiful chronicle of the ancestral food of Wales. They talk about food born from landscape, sustainability, women as the holders of ancestral heritage, fermentation, bread and much much more…

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28 Mar 2022#28 - Raising a Large Family the Ancestral Way01:31:49

Raising a large family is the work of a lifetime and the more support you have, the more fulfilling and smooth it'll be. Listen into today's episode to hear Andrea share what she's learnt through growing up in a large family and now creating her own farm-centered family. We cover budget, space, land, support networks, kitchen organisation and much more.

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"There is no part of life that is disconnected from the table"

Here's what we cover:

0:00-24:00 - What we last ate; ancestral movement; making radical shifts; knives for butchering; using all of a pig.

"The voices that you allow into your life matter a lot"

24:00-33:00 - Andrea's large family and her role in it; the life-cycle learning that happens in large families; giving over tasks to children; Andrea's home-schooling experiences

"The more you can eliminate processed foods and do the processing yourself, the more money you'll save"

33:00 onwards - Andrea's rings of influence in a family: territory; voices; home; kitchen and heart

"You must be willing to train your children early. When a child asks to help, never say no! It's so hard to do..."Sure! Grab a chair! Come sprinkle flour all over the floor!"

Resources Mentioned:

The Ancestral Kitchen Challenge

Alison's Sowans course

Katie Bowman

Chewing The Fat by Karima Moyer-Nocchi

Meet Alison episode

KTC means Kitchen Table Chats; it's the regular, intimate podcast that is available to patrons of the podcast

Alison's Boza course

Andrea's Charlotte Mason Commonplace on Instagram

A Cabin Full of Food by Marie Beausoleil

Homesteading Family on You Tube

15 Jun 2023Bonus: So Much More Than Scottish Porridge...The Culinary History of British Oats00:15:34

We have a special bonus for today! Alison reads the article she recently had published in the Weston A. Price journal Wise Traditions:

So Much More Than Porridge: The Rich Culinary History of British Oats

Recipe for Traditional Scottish Oatcakes here

Recipe for Naturally-Fermented Staffordshire Oatcakes here

If you'd like to have a go at creating the Scottish Sowans (easy-to-digest porridge) and Swats (probiotic drink) you can get 10% off Alison's video course using this link.

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31 Jan 2022#24 - Pizza!01:16:25

"Once you've had really good pizza, it's hard to go back!"

You might hear our tummies growling in the background because today we talked about one of our mutual favorite subjects - pizza!! Alison shares some surprising facts about the history of pizza in Italy, and both Andrea and Alison discuss favorite ways of preparing dough and topping the pizza. There are infinite variations on this theme and they are all right - we don't judge what you want to put on your pizza, even if it's pineapple (but maybe a little if it's Nutella). Share your pizza pictures online and tag us on Instagram so we can drool over them and copy your brilliant ideas in our own kitchens!

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Here's what we talk about:

2:00 New patron and a cool review!

3:50 Ancestral Kitchen Challenge update

7:30 What Andrea ate for breakfast

10:05 What Alison ate for supper

14:00 Pizza!

14:45 Defining pizza

17:48 History of pizza

"Pizza was a street food in Naples"

20:30 How a Neapolitan street food became a global phenomenon

"Pizza as we know it was not eaten nationally in Italy until the 70s and 80s"

25:15 Italian food and regionality

26:36 Flatbreads

"Flatbreads are core to humanity"

27:46 US styles of pizza

30:30 Bad pizza!

32:00 How Alison makes her spelt pizza dough

33:27 How Alison shapes her pizza dough

35:05 How Andrea makes her pizza dough

"Pizza is a great way to get our kids involved in the kitchen"

40:30 How we manage transferral from bench to oven

46:00 Toppings

50:35 How to avoid a soggy Margherita pizza

51:01 Making tomato sauce

55:21 Lardo on pizza

56:09 Don't set your oven on fire like Alison did!

1:00:00 Pizza temperatures/ovens

"My first oven in Italy had a integral pizza stone!"

1:01:42 It doesn't have to be perfect!

1:03:32 Pizza screens

1:04:47 Meatza

1:06:52 The problem with Nutella

"This makes me want to make pizza!!"

Resources Mentioned

See, you all knew pizza was popularized in Naples

Rebecca at A Humble Place

Nourishing Traditions for Kids as a Handicraft

2022 Ancestral Kitchen Challenge

Chewing the Fat book (also see

27 Feb 2023#52 - Homesteading the Final Frontier01:11:34

Imagine buying bare land in Alaska and building your own farm from the ground up. Imagine raising cows and chickens there and growing virtually all your own food. Imagine doing this whilst also being a mum to three youngsters (two of whom are baby twins) and having a partner who works a job away from home.

Today, Andrea talks to Amanda Callahan, the lady who is doing just that. Hear her share how her farm developed, how she manages it, the chores and her young family and lots and lots about the nourishing foods she feeds her children!

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What Andrea asks Amanda:

What is the last thing you ate before we started to record?

Tell me about your farm - why Alaska - why sustainable - why so self-sufficient?

Chores & kids - how do you do it

Let's talk about feeding kids:

  • what are some meals you make
  • why do you eat this way
  • kids and nourishing foods/organ meats
  • how do you encourage them...
26 Apr 2021#5 - What We're Fermenting Right Now!01:00:49

"Fermenting is an adventure!"

In this episode, we give a snapshot of what's bubbling in our kitchens right now.

You'll hear about:

Vegetable ferments such as sauerkraut, ginger carrots, purple onions, jerusalem artichokes (sunchokes), mustard and the all-powerful garlic.

Carbohydrate ferments including oatmeal, millet porridge, sowans, boza and sourdough starters.

Drinks (including the sowans and boza above) like fire cider, hard cider and water kefir.

Our conversation also works its way to wild v inoculated ferments and regular fermenting as a way to make meals in minutes. There are lots of breakfast options covered and you'll get a dose of Turkish and Scottish fermenting history as well as learning about a non-dairy, gluten-free, lectin-free fun alternative to dairy kefir.

Keep an eye on www.instagram.com/ancestralkitchenpodcast over the next week or so - we hope to share some of the fermentation recipes mentioned in this episode!

We'd love to continue the conversation. Come find us on Instagram:

Andrea is at Farm and Hearth

Alison is at Ancestral Kitchen

The podcast is at Ancestral Kitchen Podcast

Original Music, Episode Mixing and Post-Production by Robert Michael Kay

www.robertmichaelkay.com

21 Oct 2024#94 - 7 Ancestral Swaps That Will Save You Money01:19:16

This is such a great episode covering Seven Ancestral Swap That Will Save You Money. We are assuming you are already well on the way to eating ancestral diet, so these are not swapping ancestral foods for conventional foods; these are swaps within the ancestral food paradigm that Alison and I have utilized to save money - within saving money. Everyone is tightening up their budgets right now and we are no exception to that. The conversation around fats, dairy products and drinks and so much more in this episode is so interesting; and the last, most complex swap is a very interesting one that has saved our family thousands of dollars, and it is well worth the time and effort it takes to investigate it.

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01 Jan 2024#74 - 14 Tips for Changing Your Food Habits01:06:25

All of us have tried to change our food habits at some stage, most of us multiple times. Maybe, as you’re listening to this, you want to. It sounds simple - I’ll just stop eating this and start eating that. But it’s never that easy, is it?! Today, we’ll take a deep dive into food habits and offer you 14 Tips for Changing yours.

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Get 10% off any course at The Fermentation School: click here and use code AKP at checkout.

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06 Dec 2021#21 - Lessons from the Kitchen in 202101:24:06

 "The figures fill me with hope. Because this journey we're taking is so important for health, for our children and for the planet. People are interested, they want to learn, they want to move..." Alison

The podcast made it from a twinkle in our eyes to 14,000+ downloads this year! And it's taught us both so much. Listen in to hear us talk about what worked, what we've both been up to and what we hope to bring to life in 2022.

Love what we're doing?

Our podcast is sponsored by our patrons and listeners! We'd love you to be part of our Patreon community!

For $9 a month (or equivalent in your currency) you'll be helping us with the costs of recording, editing and putting this work into the world. And you'll get to be part of our world on a deeper level - we've got a monthly intimate patron-exclusive podcast called Kitchen Table Chats and we're also going to share cooking classes, extra interviews and much more.

Check out www.patreon.com/ancestralkitchenpodcast for all the details!

"If you aren't where you want to be yet, just keep working on the skills" Andrea

Time Stamps:

2:12 It's our last episode of the year!

4:17 Thank *you* for all your support this year.

8:18 Andrea's breakfast - abundance and Ningxia Red

11:49 Alison's lunch - mutton liver, pumpernickel and rye farmhouse ale

17:10 The smell/memory connection

20:38 What's happened with the podcast this year

21:57 Rob's song, Who Ya Callin' Pigs

22:40 14,000 downloads!

24:20 Most popular episode this year

30:12 Zoom cook-alongs

31:45 What we've learnt from the podcast this year

41:22 What Alison's learnt in her own life this year

43.42 Alison tries to remember all the things she's done in the kitchen this year!

47:56 Alison talks about her family's reading time

52.45 Alison talks about her tech use/time management/screen use

1:00.48 Andrea's year

1:04:47 What keeping poultry has taught Andrea

1:05.00 Why Andrea names her animals

1:11:20 Alison's plans for 2022

1.14.35 Andrea's plans for 2022

"This is the podcast we wish we'd had when we started" Andrea 

**Thank you for staying with us whilst we work through audio gremlins. We have plans to help improve the quality next year.**

Resources Mentioned:

Stephanie's Castagnaccio post

Sign up for Alison's newsletter!

Andrea's Affiliate link for Ningxia Red

Details about Ningxia Red

Sourdough porridge videos on Alison's site

Alison's Boza course

Alison's Sowans course

Holistic Hilda (presenter on the

06 May 2024#83 - Meal Planning and Ancestral Food Rhythms with Rebecca Zipp01:11:43

Rebecca is a good friend and a good influence. She is the creator behind A Humble Place, with a website and an Instagram both by that name, where I first found her when I was looking for Charlotte Mason art studies, and I got many of her beautiful sets. In this episode, though, she is teaching me about her meal planning strategies. I am now using her method and it is revolutionizing everything that I am doing. I am so grateful to Rebecca for joining me today to discuss this because I am not by nature a meal planner. With a very busy summer coming up, I need to have some good frameworks in place to rely on for meal planning, having others being able to participate in the food preparation, being able to know what is coming down the pipeline; and it was really interesting to me how her meal planning works with an ancestral and seasonal food lifestyle, which is the way she and her family eat. So many meal planning ideas and options out there assume you're going to be going to the grocery store every couple of days and buying lots of convenience or unseasonal foods, which just doesn't suit the way a lot of us are eating. Thank you Rebecca for opening up a whole new world to me! I am so excited to share this episode with you today; enjoy!

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Alison's course, Rye Sourdough Bread: Mastering The Basics is here, with a 10% discount applied!

Alison's Sowans oat fermentation course is here, with a 10% discount applied!

Get 10% off any course at The Fermentation School: click here and use code AKP at checkout.

Get 10% off US/Canada Bokashi supplies: click here and use code AKP.

Get 10% off UK Bokashi supplies.

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05 Jul 2021#10 - Elly from Elly's Everyday; Sourdough-Baking (and Soap-Making!)01:13:53

"You can make really, really good bread using simple methods"

We're so excited to welcome our first guest - Elly from Elly's Everyday to talk about sourdough-baking and soap-making!

"My bread-making methods were developed when I was working full time in really difficult jobs and I needed it to be a no-brainer...I didn’t want to plan out my whole week around bread-making"

What we cover:

15:26 How we met Elly

18:55 Elly talking about being a bread new-comer

20:35 How Elly got into sourdough

26:00 How to tell if your sourdough starter is healthy

31:00 The problems that stop people baking sourdough

33:10 Feeding a sourdough starter

35:40 Elly’s starter maintenance method

44:20 Elly doesn’t ever make the same bread twice

45:23 The breads Elly regularly makes at home

47:15 Elly’s milling process

49:45 Gluten-free sourdough

1:00:25 Soap-making

1:06:40 How to get started with soap-making

1:08:20 How to find Elly’s recipes, videos and online homes

"There’s always an easier way to do it!"

Links:

Elly’s *new* website!

Elly’s IG account

Elly’s FB account

The 100% whole wheat video of Elly's that Alison cooked up.

www.thefreshloaf.com

Elly’s Everyday Whole Grain Sourdough You Tube channel

Elly’s Everyday Soap-Making You Tube Channel

Elly’s Hot Cross Bun recipe

The Natural Tucker Bread Book - John Downes

Chris Stafferton (the gluten-free bread maker, author of Promise and Fulfillment

Mock Mill (Elly’s affiliate link)

Elly's Split Pea Soup recipe (described 13:49)

11/2-2 cups yellow split peas

1 potato

1 onion

1 carrot

1 large ripe tomato

little bit of salt

Pot with water or stock

If you love what we're doing,...

17 Jun 2024#86 - Let's Capture & Preserve Your Ancestral Stories01:23:21

In this podcast we celebrate and share ancestral food…the things that our great grandmothers, and their great grandmothers used to do. The wisdom we can gather listening to and reading the stories of their work has the power to change our modern day food world.

In this episode Andrea and I will put out a call for you to send us your own ancestral stories and we’ll also celebrate people who have collected and treasured this knowledge by sharing four beautiful, evocative pieces of food wisdom hand-picked by some of our favourite authors. Be prepared to be amazed, enlightened, inspired and enthused, as we are, to go out and do all you can to rebuild our individual food stories using the wisdom of our ancestors as the guiding star.

Send us your ancestral stories via this page

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Meals at the Ancestral Hearth

Spelt Sourdough Every Day

Alison's course, Rye Sourdough Bread: Mastering The Basics is here, with a 10% discount applied!

Alison's Sowans oat fermentation course is here, with a 10% discount applied!

Get 10% off any course at The Fermentation School: click here and use code AKP at checkout.

Get 10% off US/Canada Bokashi supplies: click here and use code AKP.

Get 10% off UK Bokashi supplies.

Visit our (non-Amazon!) bookshop for a vast selection of ancestral cookbooks: US link here and UK link here.

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Come join our community! You can choose to simply sponsor the podcast, or select from a variety of levels with benefits including monthly live Zoom calls, a private podcast feed stuffed with bonus...

20 Nov 2023#71 - How We Cook Shapes the World We Live In with Abby Allen from Pipers Farm01:25:16

Piper’s Farm was founded in 1989 by Peter Grieg and his wife, Henri. It’s just north of Exeter in Devon, Britain, and today it is run by their son Will and his partner, Abby, in a multi-generational partnership and succession achievement.

Peter Grieg worked for his father’s farm and shop business and saw the factory farm model brought from the US to the UK, by his father, post-WWII; and he watched it evolve into the beast it has become today. He never felt right raising animals under the oppressive, unhealthy conditions that the factory farm requires, and his development of Pipers Farm and the multi-farm network it involves today has been a many-decades long de-evolution, back to the older traditional methods of animal husbandry, community network, and local butchery.

Abby is the co-author of Pipers Farm Sustainable Meat Cookbook: Recipes and Wisdom for Considered Carnivores. She is the one we talk to here in this episode. Abby’s thoughts are profound and distinct and she shares them here in vibrant clarity with the background and the farm experience to match. How is meat to be ethically handled, how does waste factor into all of this, why are consumers so key to sustainable farms, and even what are some details we can use in the kitchen to improve our meat preparation!

Patrons of the pod will find a selection of recipes from the cookbook in their Treasure Trove ready to download today, and we will talk about a few more in the episode here. Patrons can also check their private podcast feed to enjoy a short bonus aftershow with Abby where we went just a little deeper and more informally into some of what we covered on the show. So much about our food system can be depressing and dismal, Abby will leave us inspired by the beauty that is possible and the strength of choice that each one of us has.

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Meals at the Ancestral Hearth

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Alison's course, Rye Sourdough Bread: Mastering The Basics is here, with a 10% discount applied!

Alison's Sowans oat fermentation course is here, with a 10% discount applied!

Get 10% off any course at The Fermentation School: click here and use code AKP at checkout.

Get 10% off US/Canada Bokashi supplies: click here and use code...

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