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02 Feb 2022Fundamentals of Afib with Dr. James Cox - The Godfather01:03:51

Welcome to the first episode of “All Things AFib.” I am your host, Dr. Armin Kiankhooy. As a board-certified cardiothoracic surgeon, my focus is on advanced treatments for heart and lung failure and minimally-invasive surgical treatments for atrial fibrillation such as the Hybrid Maze procedure. You can find me on staff at Adventist Health Heart and Vascular Institute in St. Helena California. 

For our inaugural episode, I’m thrilled to welcome Dr. James Cox, a legend in the field of cardiothoracic surgery, and inventor of the Cox maze surgery. The world is lucky that Dr. Cox decided to become a surgeon because he also had an offer to play professional baseball with the LA Dodgers. 

Dr. Cox was the Evarts A. Graham Professor of Surgery, vice-chairman of the department of surgery, and chief of the division of cardiothoracic surgery at Washington University School of Medicine and Barnes Hospital in St. Louis, MO. It was here in 1987 that he developed the eponymous “maze” procedure, which is still the gold standard in the world today. 

Dr. Cox was the 81st (and youngest) president of the American Association for Thoracic Surgery (AATS), a member of the editorial board of more than 20 scientific journals, and editor-in-chief of two AATS journals. Among the numerous awards and honors he has received throughout his illustrious career, Dr. Cox is the only surgeon to receive the Distinguished Scientist Award from the AATS, the Society of Thoracic Surgeons, and the Heart Rhythm Society. He is the only U.S. cardiac surgeon in the Russian Academy of Medical Sciences. 

Cox is dedicated to clinical excellence, the development of new techniques, and the training of the next generation of surgeons. 

Discussion points:

What is Atrial Fibrillation (AFib)?

The AFib word origins actually meant the appearance of a “sack of worms”

The two types of Macro Re-Entry– Automaticity and micro/macro re-entry

Treatment methods– Cardiothoracic Surgeons vs. Electrophysiologists

The technicalities of terms Maze III vs. Maze IV, the confusion, and even a lawsuit

What are the confusing statistics around pacemaker implantation and the Cox maze procedure?

Post-operative and medicinal damage to the sinus node

Around 5% of patients may need pacemakers due to “sick” sinus nodes, not AFib surgery

A discussion of Left Atrial Appendage management

Is there a percentage of AFib patients that should have more than the Left Atrial closure procedure?

Do we need to get more surgeons to do Left Atrial closure?

Discussion of hybrid maze procedures

Will we still be doing maze procedures in 30 years?

Imagining tools we may be using in the future

Resources:

Dr. James Cox Original Papers: 

The surgical treatment of atrial fibrillation. I. Summary of the current concepts of the mechanisms of atrial flutter and atrial fibrillation. 

The surgical treatment of atrial fibrillation. II. Intraoperative electrophysiologic mapping and description of the electrophysiologic basis of atrial flutter and atrial fibrillation. 

The surgical treatment of atrial fibrillation. III. Development of a definitive surgical procedure. 

Modification of the maze procedure for atrial flutter and atrial fibrillation. I. Rationale and surgical results. 

Modification of the maze procedure for atrial flutter and atrial fibrillation. II. Surgical technique of the maze III procedure.

Dr. James Cox LinkedIn

Dr. James Cox Receives Jacobson Innovation Award 

Dr. Kiankhooy LinkedIn

All Things AFib Website

All Things AFib Twitter

All Things AFib YouTube Channel

10 Feb 2022The Current State of Surgical Afib Treatment in our Seniors00:28:47

I’m speaking with Dr. Patrick M. McCarthy, a Board Certified Thoracic and Cardiac Surgeon, currently the Executive Director of the Bluhm Cardiovascular Institute, and Chief of Cardiac Surgery at the Feinberg School of Medicine at Northwestern.  His list of honors and awards is extensive, and his focus and specialties include:

Valve Repair/Replacement

Mitral Valve Repair

Atrial Fibrillation Surgery

Maze Procedure

Aortic Aneurysm

Coronary Bypass Surgery

Hypertrophic Cardiomyopathy / Myectomy

Minimally Invasive Surgery

Join us as we discuss Dr. McCarthy’s findings and how they have affected, or should affect, treatments and surgeries for AFib.

Discussion points:

Introduction and background – Dr. Patrick M. McCarthy

Why this paper? Why was it necessary?

When you think about the industry before this paper, what percentage had AFib pre-surgery?

How AFib nurses at Northwestern identify AFib patients pre-surgery

Percentages of mitral valve surgical patients with AFib before surgery

Surgeons MUST discuss and find any history of AFib with patients before surgery

How should we screen for AFib?

Why were certain female/diabetic patients in the study not treated?

Why aren’t more surgeons treating AFib?

How Dr. McCarthy’s trainees are educated re: treating AFib

Discussion of the newer variations on the Maze IV procedure

It only takes a total of about 8 minutes for the cryoablation procedure, so there’s no excuse not to treat

Surgeons need about 5 surgeries to master the procedure

McCarthy’s message to surgeons: Don’t shy away, its easier to learn these days, and should be performed

Resources:

Link to the published paper: Prevalence of atrial fibrillation before cardiac surgery and factors associated with concomitant ablation

Dr. Patrick McCarthy at Northwestern U.

Dr. Kiankhooy LinkedIn

All Things AFib Website

All Things AFib Twitter

All Things AFib YouTube Channel

13 Feb 2022Pulse Field Ablation an update with Dr. Nitesh Sood00:34:39

Today I’m speaking with Dr. Nitesh Sood, an electrophysiologist who is board-certified in internal medicine and holds certifications in echocardiography, nuclear medicine, and cardiovascular disease.  Dr. Sood is currently the Director of the Atrial Fibrillation Wellness Program at Southcoast Physicians Group in Dartmouth, Massachusetts.

Dr. Sood was selected as “Star Fellow” “Fellow Elite in Training” 2012 by the American College of Cardiology (ACC) and also “Young Investigator of the year” 2012. Dr. Sood has a special interest in treating patients with atrial fibrillation, syncope, and implantation of pacemakers and implantable cardioverter-defibrillators.

Sood was the first electrophysiologist to utilize pulse-field ablation and has now completed 33 procedures using PFA for atrial fibrillation, more than any other physician in the world at this point.  Join us for a discussion on the use of pulse-field ablation, and its many advantages over cryo or radiofrequency ablation.

Discussion points:

Introduction and background – Dr. Nitesh Sood

Why PFA and how has cryo ablation progressed over time

PFA is very young, has only existed for about 20 years

Apoptosis vs. necrosis in ablation procedures

What structures may be at risk when performing ablation

Animal studies have shown that PFA causes minimal damage in many at-risk areas

PFA has potential for temporary nano-pores that can be useful for delivering medicine such as those used for cancer treatment

MRI data shows incredible cell recovery 3 mos. After PFA, vs. radiofrequency ablation

The length of time needed for PFA is much shorter than cryo or radio, thus minimizing risks of time under anesthesia

The learning curve for PFA is around 4-5 cases

Other uses and some minimal risks of PFA

Afib is on the increase, partly due to more monitoring and tests being available

Afib can easily be monitored by patients themselves, with things like Fitbit and Apple watches, to help doctors treat them more effectively

Take a look at our website ClubAfib.com to find out more and track your own Afib– give us your feedback!

Resources:

Dr. Nitesh Sood at Southcoast Physicians Group

Dr. Nitesh Sood LinkedIn

ClubAfib.com Website

Dr. Kiankhooy LinkedIn

All Things AFib Website

All Things AFib Twitter

All Things AFib YouTube Channel



13 Feb 2022Prophylactic Left Atrial Appendage Management - The ATLAS Study00:31:37

Dr. Marc Gerdisch is my guest for this episode.

Dr. Gerdisch is currently the Chief of Cardiovascular and Thoracic Surgery at Franciscan Health in Indianapolis, IN, and owner of Cardiac Surgery Associates in Downers Grove, Illinois, just outside Chicago. 

During the last 21 years, Dr. Gerdisch has performed more than 5,000 innovative surgical procedures, of which 3,500 involved heart valve operations. He is an innovator in heart surgery and presents internationally on novel heart valve repair techniques and participates in ongoing landmark research in next-generation heart valves and heart tissue regeneration.

Join us for a discussion focusing on the exciting and illuminating results offered by the ATLAS Study, aka the AtriClip® Left Atrial Appendage Exclusion Concomitant to Structural Heart Procedures (ATLAS).

Discussion points: 

Introduction and background – Dr. Marc Gerdisch

What drove the clinical ATLAS study into being?

How heart surgeons like Dr. James Cox started closing the left atrial appendage as an avant-garde move many years ago

Patients CHADVASc scores and risks for Afib

The LAAOS III study and its outcomes

Atriopathy and why all atrial diseases are related

The next phase of the ATLAS study will have thousands of patients, multi-national

ATLAS study only studied clips, LAAOS included sewing and stapling, which don’t function as well

How a poorly closed appendage can be worse than not closing it at all

There is such a large amount of data out there on AFib, as diagnostics improve and its danger is recognized

Physicians should be screening for AFib if patients have the related risk factors

Any patient who has ever snored should have a sleep study done

In closing– to all heart surgeons with access to the left atrial appendage during surgery, you should discuss a pre-op plan for closing it in your patients!

 

Resources:

Dr. Marc Gerdisch LinkedIn

ATLAS Study

LAAOS III Study

Cardiac Surgery Associates Website

Dr. Kiankhooy LinkedIn

All Things AFib Website

All Things AFib Twitter 

All Things AFib YouTube Channel

21 Feb 2022Stand-Alone Atrial Fibrillation00:37:47

Today our guest is Dr. Niv Ad, and we are discussing his Annals of Thoracic Surgery paper, Surgical Treatment for Stand-Alone Atrial Fibrillation in North America by Niv Ad, et al.

As an internationally renowned leader in cardiothoracic surgery, Dr. Ad is known for his long-time involvement in minimally invasive cardiac surgical procedures. Dr. Ad attended medical school at the Sackler School of Medicine at Tel Aviv University and completed his training fellowship in Cardiovascular and Thoracic Surgery at Georgetown Medical Center in Washington, D.C.

Dr. Ad joined Washington Adventist and the White Oak Medical Center after serving as the Chair of Cardiac Surgery at the Inova Heart of Vascular Institute for almost a decade. He is an Adjunct Professor at the University of Maryland School of Medicine and division of Cardiac surgery, and the Editor in Chief of INNOVATIONS: Technology and Techniques in Cardiothoracic and Vascular Surgery. 

Throughout his career, Dr. Ad has been involved in multiple multi-center studies including as the national principal investigator on several Food and Drug Administration (FDA) trials.

All Things Afib is hosted by me, Dr. Armin Kiankhooy. As a board-certified cardiothoracic surgeon, my focus is on advanced treatments for atrial fibrillation such as the Hybrid Maze procedure. You can find me on staff at Adventist Health Heart and Vascular Institute in St. Helena California.

 

Discussion points: 

Introduction and background – Dr. Niv Ad

Why write this paper?

Breaking down the subgroups included in the paper: off-pump (n = 3252), on-pump (n = 491), and patients with incision conversion or conversion from off-pump to on-pump (n = 150)

Answering important questions such as “Is it safe?”

The possibility that younger, inexperienced surgeons are abandoning the procedure, leading to the drop in numbers

How did the LAAOS III study impact the off-pump group?

Do you think the conversion procedure process is a fit for new surgeons, is it a good place to start?

Moving on to your upcoming FDA trial of AtriCure CryoICE, why is this a study that had to happen?

The current gap in education around why we treat, how it is treated, and what tools should be used

When can we expect results from the FDA trial?

Ad’s final thoughts– Message to AFib patients– do your research, don’t be shy! Don’t hesitate to reach out to discuss your situation with an experienced AFib surgeon

 

Resources: 

Paper: Surgical Treatment for Stand-Alone Atrial Fibrillation in North America 

Dr. Niv Ad at Adventist Medical Group

LAAOS III Study

Dr. Kiankhooy LinkedIn

All Things AFib Website

All Things AFib Twitter 

All Things AFib YouTube Channel

04 Mar 2022Cryoballoon Therapy for Atrial Fibrillation00:23:29

Have you wondered about the pros and cons of using cryoablation or a cryoballoon therapy to manage AFib?  Join me for a fascinating discussion with Dr. Arash Aryana about the approaches available, and the varying successes of outcomes that EPs can achieve using cryoablation alone or in combination with other modalities. 

Dr. Aryana is a cardiac electrophysiologist located in Sacramento. Currently practicing at Mercy Medical Group, Dr. Aryana received his training at Massachusetts General Hospital/Harvard Medical School, Boston. Dr. Aryana joined Regional Cardiology Associates in 2008 and Mercy Medical Group in 2015. He specializes in the management of cardiac arrhythmias including both clinical and interventional therapies such as catheter ablation and cardiac rhythm device implantation. With nearly 100 peer-reviewed articles under his belt, Dr. Aryana is the current principal investigator for the PIVoTAL-IDE study on cryoballoon treatment, which we will be discussing later in this episode.

All Things Afib is hosted by me, Dr. Armin Kiankhooy. As a board-certified cardiothoracic surgeon, my focus is on advanced treatments for heart and lung failure and minimally-invasive surgical treatments for atrial fibrillation such as the Hybrid Maze procedure. You can find me on staff at Adventist Health Heart and Vascular Institute in St. Helena California.

 

Discussion points:

Introduction and background – Dr. Aryana

How did cryo become a modality for the endocardial space

What percentage of procedures use cryo vs. a cryo/AF hybrid currently?

Is cryo becoming more popular?

What are the advantages of cryo vs. PFA (pulse-field ablation)?

Aryana’s Journal of Innovations article on cryoballoon ablation

How does cryo fit with intentional left atrial appendage ligation?

Using cryo for the ligament or Vein of Marshall (VOM)

Even the best surgeons are not 100% successful with ablation, how do you treat with cryoablation after those failures?

Why is your upcoming PIVoTAL-IDE study on cryoballoon treatment so important?

How the study invites more scrutiny with certain methodologies

When is this study projected to be finished?

The other exciting clinical trial– the CryoICE Atricure study

 

Resources:

Dr. Arash Aryana at Mercy Medical

PIVoTAL-IDE Study 

Journal of Innovations Article: Rationale and Outcomes of Cryoballoon Ablation of the Left Atrial Posterior Wall in Conjunction with Pulmonary Vein Isolation 

Study: AtriCure CryoICE Lesions for Persistent and Long-standing Persistent Atrial Fibrillation Treatment (ICE-AFIB)

Dr. Kiankhooy LinkedIn

All Things AFib Website

All Things AFib Twitter

All Things AFib YouTube Channel

16 Mar 2022How Much Afib is Enough to Cause a Stroke?00:46:39

Today I’m speaking with Dr. Thomas A. Dewland, an EP with a focus on atrial fibrillation epidemiology (the study of which populations are affected by certain diseases and why). His goal is to identify ways to prevent atrial fibrillation before it occurs. Dewland earned his medical degree at the Yale School of Medicine. Currently at UC San Francisco, he has authored over 80 peer-reviewed papers. 

I recently listened to a symposium where Dr. Dewland spoke about the topic of “How much Afib is enough…” and so today we will be discussing it in depth.  Join us as we cover the use of monitoring devices (both implantable and non) to detect AFib and the widely varying thresholds that doctors feel is enough to refer their patients to an EP for further treatment or consult. We will dig into: using anti-coagulants, when left atrial appendage management is indicated, and what the future of monitoring looks like - with the constant improvement and ease of use in newer monitoring devices.

All Things Afib is hosted by me, Dr. Armin Kiankhooy. As a board-certified cardiothoracic surgeon, my focus is on advanced treatments for heart and lung failure and minimally-invasive surgical treatments for atrial fibrillation such as the Hybrid Maze procedure. You can find me on staff at Adventist Health Heart and Vascular Institute in St. Helena California.

 

Discussion points:

A patient comes in with AFib detected by their Apple watch– what do you do?

If a patient has a 10 second AFib occurence, what is your device of choice to monitor them for more AFib?

What is the threshold you use to determine if a patient should receive an implantable loop recorder?

The availability of low cost home monitoring such as the KardiaMobile

CHADVASC scores as an indicator for anticoagulants and/or further monitoring

What are your thoughts on surgically managing the left atrial appendage if a patient is low risk?

The incomplete closure of the left atrial appendage is worse than not closing it at all, so know if your skills are up to it

We need to see the results of the two trials that are underway– in one to two years they will be published.

Tech is improving to the point that we’re seeing AFib everywhere– is it a pathology or is it simply a bio marker of aging?

  

Resources:

Dr. Thomas Dewland at UCSF

KardiaMobile Device - personal EKG

Dr. Kiankhooy LinkedIn 

All Things AFib Website

All Things AFib Twitter

All Things AFib YouTube Channel

23 Mar 2022The Patient Experience with Atrial Fibrillation & StopAFib.org00:49:35

Attention all providers: This episode may be one of the most important and valuable discussions you will hear all year.  Get ready to have many of your preconceptions challenged and your understanding considerably deepened– about what your patients experience before, during, and after their AFib diagnosis and treatment.

My illuminating discussion today is with Ms. Mellanie True Hills, who was herself a patient suffering with AFib.  She got treatment, is AFib free, and now advocates for others through her important patient-focused work and education with StopAFib.org– of which she is the Founder and CEO.

Mellanie speaks openly about her personal nightmare with AFib, how urgent it is for the medical community and other AFib patients to get up to speed on the best ways to deal with AFib, and some interesting and exciting new paths that AFib research may take with an unusual, but necessary, focus on “patient-initiated research.” 

I implore you to listen closely to this entire episode, all the way through, and recommend it to your fellow medical professionals.  The insight into the patient experience will help all of us become better providers for our patients.

All Things Afib is hosted by me, Dr. Armin Kiankhooy. As a board-certified cardiothoracic surgeon, my focus is on advanced treatments for heart and lung failure and minimally-invasive surgical treatments for atrial fibrillation such as the Hybrid Maze procedure. You can find me on staff at Adventist Health Heart and Vascular Institute in St. Helena California.

 

Discussion points:

Mellanie relates her personal fight with AFib prior to her procedure in 2005

The insidious ways that AFib hijacks your life physically, emotionally, professionally, and even financially

Does Mellanie see different concerns from AFib sufferers now, vs. when she first began?

Doctors need to spend much more time with AFib patients– in a one-two meeting that allows them time for the diagnosis to sink in

Is stroke still the top concern for people you speak to?

The troubling stats on patients that are being treated by generalists, and not referred to, or treated by, AFib specialists

Digital tools- The Watchman and Amulet

AFIb patients, in general, may not be being treated soon enough before scar tissue complicates treatment

The importance of providers listening to and understanding patient’s “values and preferences,” which may be different from what we imagine

We talk a lot about patient-centered care, but Mellanie has opened our eyes to many opportunities for vast improvements around the treatment of AFib

 

Resources:

StopAFib.org Website

StopAFib Library of Conferences, Webinars, Master Classes

Mellanie True Hills Website 

Mellanie True Hills on LinkedIn

Dr. Kiankhooy LinkedIn 

All Things AFib Website

All Things AFib Twitter

All Things AFib YouTube Channel

01 Apr 2022The Converge IDE Trial00:31:20

My guest today is Dr. Christian Shults, the Co-Director of Aortic Surgery, the Director of Surgical Ablation, and the Director of Innovation at Medstar Heart and Vascular Institute in Washington DC.

In addition to coronary bypass and valve surgery, Dr. Shults has developed significant expertise in complex open and endovascular aortic surgery, as well as transcatheter valve therapy and minimally invasive surgical treatment for atrial fibrillation. Dr. Shults consistently embraces new technology and innovation to safely deliver life-altering therapies in the least invasive way possible. 

Join us for a discussion around Dr. Shults’ algorithm for when to use TT vs. Convergent, the technical details of how he performs procedures such as the Convergent and the Cox Maze IV,  his personal ablation protocols and technique, and more.

 All Things Afib is hosted by me, Dr. Armin Kiankhooy. As a board-certified cardiothoracic surgeon, my focus is on advanced treatments for heart and lung failure and minimally-invasive surgical treatments for atrial fibrillation such as the Hybrid Maze procedure. You can find me on staff at Adventist Health Heart and Vascular Institute in St. Helena California.

 

Discussion points: 

Tell us a little about your practice at Medstar?

How do you decide between TT vs. Convergent?

Is there a cutoff you observe, or is it just a general impression

How durable have you found the posterior wall ablation to be?

Have you found a difference in stroke outcomes with only posterior wall ablation vs. left atrial appendage management?

Shults walks us through his steps for the Convergent procedure

What is your follow-up protocol at Medstar?

The Cox-Maze IV and Dr. Shults’ preferences for the procedure

Final words? “Become an expert in AFib!”

 

Resources: 

Dr. Christian Shults LinkedIn

Dr. Christian Shults at Medstar

Email Dr. Shults with questions or to inquire about a fellowship

Dr. Kiankhooy LinkedIn

All Things AFib Website

All Things AFib Twitter

All Things AFib YouTube Channel

10 Apr 2022Alcohol and Atrial Fibrillation00:35:00

Is one glass of red wine a day an acceptable amount of alcohol for patients diagnosed with AFib?  Is heavy drinking associated with an increase in AFib intensity or frequency?  Until quite recently, the thinking around AFib was that you either have it or you don’t.  But just as the medical community realized several decades ago that diet/lifestyle and alcohol consumption were important factors in coronary heart disease and MI, we are now seeing research results pointing to alcohol and other lifestyle choices having a causal effect on Afib.  In this episode, I speak with Dr. Gregory Marcus about all things alcohol and AFib.

Dr. Marcus is Associate Chief of Cardiology for Research at UC San Francisco Health. His particular research interests include cardiovascular effects of alcohol and caffeine and other common, modifiable, lifestyle factors. More recently, as one of the leaders of the Health eHeart Study and the NIH-funded Eureka platform, Dr. Marcus' interests have included mobile health technology and leveraging devices, sensors, mobile apps, and the internet to conduct clinical research more efficiently and to understand "real-time" and "real life" effects on patients.

All Things Afib is hosted by me, Dr. Armin Kiankhooy. As a board-certified cardiothoracic surgeon, my focus is on advanced treatments for heart and lung failure and minimally-invasive surgical treatments for atrial fibrillation such as the Hybrid Maze procedure. You can find me on staff at Adventist Health Heart and Vascular Institute in St. Helena California.

 

Discussion points:

Gregory Marcus– background and research focus

“Holiday Heart” – the anecdotal evidence of cardiac incidents following excess alcohol

DIfficulties of studying alcohol and AFib– self-reporting, etc.

A study of dry vs. wet counties in Texas

What are the numbers– drinks vs. timeline of AFib episodes?

Research found a median 4 hours between consuming alcohol and AFib occurrences

We as surgeons don’t often discuss reducing alcohol after ablation

Any correlation between amount of alcohol and length of AFib incidents?

We hear about moderate consumption (one drink per day) being part of healthy heart/reduction of MI’s and coronary disease– how does that apply to AFib?

We are just now considering lifestyle/diet/alcohol in relation to AFib, the way we looked at it with MI’s and coronary disease 20-30 years ago.

Last words– moderation is always key, and abstinence is probably best

 

 Resources:

Dr. Gregory Marcus LinkedIn

Dr. Gregory Marcus at UCSF

Dr. Kiankhooy LinkedIn

All Things AFib Website

All Things AFib Twitter

All Things AFib YouTube Channel

19 Apr 2022Arrhythmia 101: Ventricular Tachycardia00:39:39

My guest for this episode is Dr. Ashkan Ehdaie, an Electrophysiologist at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles. Dr. Ehdaie is currently an Assistant Professor of Cardiology and Associate Director of the Clinical Cardiac Electrophysiology Fellowship Training Program.

I interview Dr. Ehdaie about the different types of Vtach, the risks and outcomes associated with treating each type, and we dig into some of the protocols used for various scenarios where Vtach requires treatment, both medically and surgically. 

All Things Afib is hosted by me, Dr. Armin Kiankhooy. As a board-certified cardiothoracic surgeon, my focus is on advanced treatments for heart and lung failure and minimally-invasive surgical treatments for atrial fibrillation such as the Hybrid Maze procedure. You can find me on staff at Adventist Health Heart and Vascular Institute in St. Helena California.

 

Discussion points:

How is Vtach different from supraventricular tachycardia?

What are the different types of Vtach?

What is the conversation when a patient is diagnosed with Idiopathic Vtach?

Where is the threshold between treating with meds or ablation?

Why does malignant Vtach occur?

Monomorphic vs. polymorphic

The medications that can cause polymorphic Vtach

Patient follow up procedures and the LifeVest

We do imaging for Afib at a certain time post-procedure, when do you do it for Vtach?

What is the success rate when treating with ablation?

How much Vtach is too much?

A study focusing on reviving tissue, instead of destroying it with ablation

What else should our listeners know? “That Vtach is not one-dimensional, it has many presentations and complications.”

 

Resources:

Dr. Ashkan Ehdaie Cedars-Sinai

Dr. Ashkan Ehdaie LinkedIn

Dr. Kiankhooy LinkedIn

All Things AFib Website 

All Things AFib Twitter

All Things AFib YouTube Channel

02 May 2022Early Rhythm Control Therapy - the EAST-AFNET 4 Trial00:30:04

Some high-level takeaways from the paper: 

Early initiation of rhythm-control therapy conveys a clear clinical benefit in patients with recently diagnosed atrial fibrillation (AF)

Based on trial results, rhythm-control therapy should be offered to all patients with recently diagnosed AF and cardiovascular risk factors, including those who present without AF-related symptoms, in addition to anticoagulation, rate control, and therapy of concomitant conditions

Early initiation of rhythm-control therapy, before AF-induced atrial damage (atrial cardiopathy or atrial structural remodelling) has irreversibly damaged the atria, could be more effective and safer than the current symptom-based—and therefore delayed—approach to rhythm-control therapy.

All Things Afib is hosted by me, Dr. Armin Kiankhooy. As a board-certified cardiothoracic surgeon, my focus is on advanced treatments for heart and lung failure and minimally-invasive surgical treatments for atrial fibrillation such as the Hybrid Maze procedure. You can find me on staff at Adventist Health Heart and Vascular Institute in St. Helena California.

 

Discussion points:

What was the purpose and background of this paper?

How realistic is the patient population, compared to your practice?

Figure 1- Meds vs. Ablation, your thoughts?

Is a figure of 20% of patients treated with Amiodarone normal?

What is your opinion on the long-term outcomes in this study?

Afib and cognitive decline/dementia

This study will change how we practice– it’s a game-changer

What protocols do you recommend for your patients that come in earlier and earlier for AFib?

The Mobile Cardiac Telemetry (MCT) monitor vs. others

How smartwatches are raising patient awareness around AFib, and many times are useful tools in cardiac monitoring

Tadros reiterates just how important this study is for all of us

 

Resources: 

The EAST-AFNET 4 Study

Dr. Thomas Michael Tadros at Brigham and Women's

Dr. Kiankhooy LinkedIn

All Things AFib Website

All Things AFib Twitter

All Things AFib YouTube Channel

28 May 2022Heart Failure and Atrial Fibrillation00:27:31

Show Notes - All Things Afib - Episode 14 - Tachycardia Mediated Cardiomyopathy - Dr. Ali Khiabani from Washington University in St. Louis

Today I’m speaking with Dr. Ali Khiabani, MD, MHA who is currently a fifth-year post-graduate student at Washington University under the tutelage of Dr. Ralph Damiano Jr., one of the world’s leading Cox-Maze surgeons who himself trained under Dr. Cox. Dr. Khiabani and Dr. Damiano have recently co-authored an important paper on the long-term outcomes of the Cox-Maze IV and today we’re going to discuss all the important findings in that paper. 

The paper’s abstract reads:

Surgical ablation of atrial fibrillation (AF) is indicated both in patients with AF undergoing concomitant cardiac surgery and in those who have not responded to medical and/or catheter-based ablation therapy. This study examined our long-term outcomes following the Cox-Maze IV procedure (CMP-IV).

And the conclusion states:

The CMP-IV had an excellent long-term efficacy at maintaining sinus rhythm. At late follow-up, the results of the CMP-IV remained superior to those reported for catheter ablation and other forms of surgical ablation for AF. Age, left atrial size, and nonparoxysmal AF were the most relevant predictors of late recurrence.

All Things Afib is hosted by me, Dr. Armin Kiankhooy. As a board-certified cardiothoracic surgeon, my focus is on advanced treatments for heart and lung failure and minimally-invasive surgical treatments for atrial fibrillation such as the Hybrid Maze procedure. You can find me on staff at Adventist Health Heart and Vascular Institute in St. Helena California. 

Discussion points:

You have written some impressive papers – can you tell us a little about this paper?

Some important elements in the research:

Patient selection was key

All underwent MRI’s to determine fibrosis levels

37 patients total

Class III or IV EF

Median follow up was 22 mos.

All had significant improvements

It’s not necessary to restore 100% sinus rhythm all the time– what were your statistics?

Any additional points you’d like to share regarding this paper?

Switching gears –tell us about your training with Dr. Damiano

How many procedures until you were comfortable?

What’s next for you with your training or research?

Closing words: for anyone listening– the lesion set in this Bi-Atrial Maze procedure is the most robust method available today for patients with stand-alone AFib

Resources:

Dr. Ali Khiabani at Wash U.

Wash U. Article about the Study

Link to Study Abstract

Dr. Kiankhooy LinkedIn

All Things AFib Website

All Things AFib Twitter

All Things AFib YouTube Channel

20 Jun 2022Dementia and Atrial Fibrillation00:53:23

Show Notes - All Things Afib - Episode 15: Dementia and Atrial Fibrillation with Dr. Jared Bunch 

As doctors, we often don’t ask our patients (or their spouses) about “memory issues” or other signs of dementia, related to AFib.  We usually ask about stroke, clots, and other heart functions but neglect to ask about the brain.  

My guest today is Dr. T. Jared Bunch, Head of Section for Heart Rythm Services at the University of Utah.  Dr. Bunch specializes in the diagnosis and management of heart rhythm disorders. His current research involves defining mechanisms underlying the association between atrial fibrillation and dementia.  He looks at therapeutic opportunities to lower the risk of cognitive decline, the integration of wearable and implantable devices to improve early diagnosis and treatment of arrhythmias, and improving mapping and catheter ablation of arrhythmias.

Dr. Bunch is a section editor for Current Cardiology Risk Reports, Heart Rhythm Journal, and a guest editor for American Heart Journal. He is on the editorial boards of the Heart Rhythm Journal, Journal of Cardiovascular Electrophysiology, Heart, American Heart Journal, JACC electrophysiology, and the Journal of Innovations in Cardiac Rhythm Management. In addition, he is a Professor of Medicine at the University of Utah and Editor-in-chief of the Heart Rhythm Society.

Join us for a discussion on the alarming connection between AFib and dementia, how to manage AFib and also assist in preventing brain decline, and the many exciting studies and trials, books and articles about the relationship between the two.

All Things Afib is hosted by me, Dr. Armin Kiankhooy. As a board-certified cardiothoracic surgeon, my focus is on advanced treatments for heart and lung failure and minimally-invasive surgical treatments for atrial fibrillation such as the Hybrid Maze procedure. You can find me on staff at Adventist Health Heart and Vascular Institute in St. Helena California. 

Discussion points:

Dr. T Jared Bunch intro and background 

What is dementia? Why should we care about its relation to AFib?

An AFib/Dementia story– the salesman with AFib and “senior moments”

Many times doctors neglect to ask patients about dementia and memory issues – only ask about stroke, clots, etc.

Microbleeds, microclots, and hypoperfusion

Assessing risk through blood panels

The concussion/afib trial

The magnitude of risk for dementia is higher in younger patients – ages 60-70 vs. 70-90

The impact of wearables and the Heartline Trial

Benefits of anticoagulants

Appendage management, AFib, and dementia

CHADS VASC scores and AFib/dementia

What other tests/scores do you look at?

The AFib Cure book and Dr. John Day

Closing words: for anyone listening– Be your own advocate, ask questions, join the AFib online community, and find a doctor who will answer your questions/knows about AFib. There are treatments and ways to address Afib.

Resources:

Dr. T. Jared Bunch LinkedIn

Dr. Bunch Publications

Join the Heartline Trial/Apple Watch

The Afib Cure Book

StopAFib.org

Dr. Kiankhooy LinkedIn

All Things AFib Website

All Things AFib Twitter

All Things AFib YouTube Channel

03 Aug 2022CAST-AF 2022!00:33:09

 Show Notes - All Things Afib - CAST-AF 2022 with Dr. Bradley Knight


So many legends in the AFib world are excited about the upcoming Catheter and Surgical Therapies for Atrial Fibrillation (CAST AF) Conference happening at the end of August in Chicago. Here to speak with me about some of the sessions is my esteemed guest Dr. Bradley Knight, Director of Cardiac Electrophysiology, Bluhm Cardiovascular Institute of Northwestern at Northwestern Medicine.

We’ll discuss some of what you’ll see and hear at this world-class conference, happening Friday and Saturday, August 26-27 at the Radisson Blu Aqua in Chicago, IL. The talks scheduled are only 10-15 minutes each, with plenty of time built in for questions and discussion after each section.  From AI to PFA, wearables, and other forward-looking AFib topics, presenters and technology, register now to attend and get intense, high-yield information, theories, and technology that you can put into practice the very next day you return to work!

Dr. Knight is the Chester C. and Deborah M. Cooley Distinguished Professor of Cardiology at Northwestern University, and has been the Director of the Heart Rhythm Program at the BCVI, since November 1, 2009. He earned his BS in Public Health/Biostatistics at the University of North Carolina in Chapel Hill, and his MD at the Ohio State University. After completing his training in Medicine, Cardiology, and Cardiac Electrophysiology at the University of Michigan, he joined the Michigan faculty in 1997. He later served as the Director of Cardiac Electrophysiology at the University of Chicago from 2002 to 2009.

As the Medical Director of Cardiac Electrophysiology at Northwestern Medicine, Dr. Knight remains clinically active with a broad range of clinical and research interests in the field of Heart Rhythm Disorders. These interests range from catheter ablation for complex arrhythmias, such as atrial fibrillation, to fundamental issues related to the basic mechanisms of various types of arrhythmias, and the use of imaging in the electrophysiology laboratory to guide ablation procedures and device implantation. He is involved in several multi-center clinical trials that are evaluating novel ablation tools and implantable devices, including the cryoballoon for pulmonary vein isolation, the totally subcutaneous implantable defibrillator, and left atrial appendage occlusion devices. He has coauthored over 300 scientific papers and is on the editorial board of several high-impact medical journals. He has served on the ABIM CCEP Exam Writing Committee for ten years, and is the Editor-in-Chief of the Journal of Cardiovascular Electrophysiology (JCE) and EPLab Digest.

All Things Afib is hosted by me, Dr. Armin Kiankhooy. As a board-certified cardiothoracic surgeon, my focus is on advanced treatments for heart and lung failure and minimally-invasive surgical treatments for atrial fibrillation such as the Hybrid Maze procedure. You can find me on staff at Adventist Health Heart and Vascular Institute in St. Helena California. 

Discussion points:

This may be the best conference happening in the world today

Focus on interventional therapies

Structure of the conference, short and intense for high-yield information

The collaborative methods in practice at Northwestern

Hot Topic: Pulse Field Ablation and it’s many advantages

Talking tech: Devices and wearables

The new approaches - using anticoags, closing the left atriral appendage, LAOS III and reducing stroke risks

Training programs at Northwestern – new opportunities

The differences in training from only ten years ago are staggering

Register to attend today!

Resources:

Dr. Bradley Knight LinkedIn

Dr. Bradley Knight Twitter

CATH AF 2022

Dr. Kiankhooy LinkedIn

All Things AFib Website

All Things AFib Twitter

All Things AFib YouTube Channel

16 Aug 2022Medicare Cuts!!! (Again???)00:50:27

Show Notes - All Things Afib - Episode 17 (16) - Medicare Cuts!!!! with Dr. Brett Gidney

 

 

Medicare is slashing reimbursement for AFib procedures during a time of record-setting inflation and an increasing number of patients (currently 6 million) suffering from AFib.  From an RVU (Relative Value Unit) of 26.44 in 2021, the payment is being reduced by FORTY PERCENT to 15.88 in 2023. AFib is becoming more and more widespread, in fact, there are predicted to be 20 Million AFib patients by 2050.  Afib can often be fixed very easily, REDUCING the burden on the healthcare system, as likelihood of stroke, dementia, and other morbidities are reduced by AFib management.

 

There are only 1500 EPs in the U.S. right now, and Medicare cuts are actually DE-INCENTIVIZING more doctors from entering this specialty, because they cannot get fairly compensated for their work. Did you know Medicare pays the same amount for an EP to sit in their office and read 3 echocardiograms, as they would get to do a complex AFib procedure/operation?!

 

Join me and my guest Dr. Brett Gidney to discuss how and why these cuts are happening, and what you can do today to join the fight to reform these Medicare payments.

 

Dr. Brett Gidney is a cardiac electrophysiologist leading the charge to reform Medicare payments to EPs.  He practices throughout the central coast of California from Thousand Oaks up to Santa Maria. He is board certified in clinical cardiac electrophysiology focusing on complex cardiac arrhythmia management. Dr. Gidney spends the majority of his time in the hospital setting performing procedures, such as cardiac ablation, to treat abnormal heart rhythms. He is particularly interested in very low or no radiation exposure facilitated by 3D mapping and ultrasound technologies.

 

All Things Afib is hosted by me, Dr. Armin Kiankhooy. As a board-certified cardiothoracic surgeon, my focus is on advanced treatments for heart and lung failure and minimally-invasive surgical treatments for atrial fibrillation such as the Hybrid Maze procedure. You can find me on staff at Adventist Health Heart and Vascular Institute in St. Helena California.

 

Discussion points:

 

●      Dr. Brett Gidney introduction

●      The reduction of RVUs– 2021 to 2023 – reduced 40% - bundling/cuts

●      EP is a tiny specialty, only 1500 in the US today

●      AFib procedures REDUCE the burden on the system

●      Who is advocating for these cuts? The RUC and it’s role

●      Affect on caseloads/day to day practice

●      De-valuing physician services vs. equipment costs

●      Will this be the spark that leads to the formation of lobbying groups?

●      501(c)6 vs. 501(c)3

●      Reduced access to underserved populations

●      The EPAdvocacy.org foundation will soon be up and running

●      Reach out to your congressperson and senator, let them know we need reform!

 

Resources:

 

Dr. Brett Gidney LinkedIn

 

Dr. Brett Gidney Twitter

 

Find Your Representatives

 

Dr. Kiankhooy LinkedIn

 

All Things AFib Website

 

All Things AFib Twitter

 

All Things AFib YouTube Channel

06 Sep 2022DECAAF II00:27:32

Dr. Thomas Michael Tadros returns to the podcast to discuss the DECAAF II Randomized Clinical Trial. As a Board-certified Cardiologist and EP,  Dr. Tadros’ gives us the pros and cons and takeaways from this study, that advances AFib knowledge within our specialty.

 

The study, “Effect of MRI-Guided Fibrosis Ablation vs Conventional Catheter Ablation on Atrial Arrhythmia Recurrence in Patients With Persistent Atrial Fibrillation: The DECAAF II Randomized Clinical Trial” was authored by Marrouche, Wazni, McGann et al and just released in June 2022 by JAMA.

 

Key points from the paper:

 

●      Question:  Among patients with persistent atrial fibrillation (AF), does the addition of magnetic resonance imaging (MRI)-guided fibrosis ablation to conventional catheter ablation affect atrial arrhythmia recurrence?

●      Findings:  In this randomized clinical trial that included 843 patients with persistent AF, there was no significant difference in atrial arrhythmia recurrence in the MRI-guided fibrosis ablation group compared with the pulmonary vein isolation only group (hazard ratio, 0.95).

●      Meaning:  Findings do not support the use of MRI-guided fibrosis ablation for the treatment of persistent atrial fibrillation.

 

All Things Afib is hosted by me, Dr. Armin Kiankhooy. As a board-certified cardiothoracic surgeon, my focus is on advanced treatments for heart and lung failure and minimally-invasive surgical treatments for atrial fibrillation such as the Hybrid Maze procedure. You can find me on staff at Adventist Health Heart and Vascular Institute in St. Helena California.

 

Discussion points:

 

●      Persistent vs. Paroxysmal Afib and background on the DECAAF I study

●      Using MRIs to identify fibrosis prior to ablation

●      Follow-up testing showed no differences - 43-46% of patients had a recurrence of AFib

●      Patients were all approximately one year out from their diagnosis

●      Even in patients with only 7 days of Afib, there was significant fibrosis – due to history of hypertension?

●      Interstitial vs. replacement fibrosis

●      Stroke incidence and mortality after the procedure

●      Epicardial procedures - does this study impact?

●      Where do we go with the data from this study? Does it impact practice?

●      Scalability of this data/study/impact

●      Overall these studies continue to be extremely relevant

 

Resources:

 

DECAAF II Study in JAMA

 

Dr. Thomas Michael Tadros at Brigham and Women's

 

Dr. Kiankhooy LinkedIn

 

All Things AFib Website

 

All Things AFib Twitter

 

All Things AFib YouTube Channel

18 Sep 2022Robotic Maze Surgery00:46:01

In this episode, I speak with Dr. Vinay Badhwar, an internationally recognized master cardiac valve surgeon, and an expert in complex mitral valve repair, atrial fibrillation surgery, minimally invasive valve surgery, and robotic surgery.

 

The main topic under discussion is Dr. Vinay’s paper, “Robotic-assisted Cryothermic Cox Maze for Persistent Atrial Fibrillation: Longitudinal Follow-up” by Badhwar et al.

 

Key points from the paper:

 

Objectives

Surgical ablation of atrial fibrillation (AF) is recommended as a stand-alone therapy for patients refractory to medical or catheter-based treatment, or as a concomitant therapy when associated with structural disease. We report a single-therapy robotic approach to the Cox Maze with longitudinal follow-up.

Methods

Consecutive patients who underwent robotic biatrial cryothermic Cox Maze for nonparoxysmal AF between November 2016 and January 2022 were examined at 1, 2, 3, 6, 9, 12, 18, 24, 36, 48, and 60 months. Freedom from atrial tachyarrhythmias (ATA) was assessed with 24-hour continuous ECG or pacemaker interrogation in all patients after 6 months. Mean follow-up was 17 ± 14.5 months (Range 1-60 months). Time to event analysis with competing risks was used to determine risk-adjusted associations with late outcomes.

Results

Patients (n=135) had a median AF duration of 4.0 years [IQR 0.8-7.0], with 29.6% failing one or more catheter ablations. Stand-alone Maze was performed in 25.2%, while 61.4% underwent concomitant robotic mitral valve (MV) surgery, 7.4% tricuspid valve repair, and 4.4% aortic valve replacement (AVR). No patients were discharged in AF. There were 3 operative mortalities (2.2%), none in stand-alone patients. One patient required catheter ablation at 8 months postoperatively, and one had a non-embolic stroke at 18 months. There were 9 late deaths. Freedom from ATA and anti-arrhythmic drugs (AAD) at 9, 12, 18, 24, 36, and 48 months was 97.0%, 96.7%, 98.1%, 97.1%, and 100%, respectively. Lower ejection fraction and need for concomitant MV replacement and/or AVR were independently associated with worse survival.

Conclusions

For persistent AF, robotic biatrial cryothermic Cox Maze offered greater than 90% 1-year longitudinal freedom from stroke, oral anticoagulation, repeat ablation, and recurrent AF without the need for AAD.

All Things Afib is hosted by me, Dr. Armin Kiankhooy. As a board-certified cardiothoracic surgeon, my focus is on advanced treatments for heart and lung failure and minimally-invasive surgical treatments for atrial fibrillation such as the Hybrid Maze procedure. You can find me on staff at Adventist Health Heart and Vascular Institute in St. Helena California. 

 

Discussion points:

 

●      How Dr. Badhwar began using robotics

●      Robotic surgery has been around for a long time

●      The increasingly common “one and done” procedure, patients request

●      Some of the patient profiles in the study

●      Robotic advantages 

●      Patient safety is #1

●      Dr. Badhwar takes us through precise step-by-step robotic procedures 

●      Phrenic issues can be avoided

●      Full flow and drainage

●      Is the process for mitral the same?

●      Using anti-coags after surgery - the controversy

●      Training available for robotics

●      LAA and the LAAOS III study

●      Level A evidence, the future guidelines, always consider LAA!

●      Honor the evidence….

 

Resources:

 

Dr. Vinay Badhwar LinkedIn

 

Dr. Badhwar’s Paper

 

Dr. Kiankhooy LinkedIn

 

All Things AFib Website

 

All Things AFib Twitter

 

All Things AFib YouTube Channel

18 Nov 2022LAALA Study - How effective is an AtriClip?00:18:56

30 Nov 2022A Hybrid Team Approach for Atrial Fibrillation00:38:26

10 Mar 2023Robotic Enhanced Convergent Approach & #DEI STS 2023 Presidential Address01:14:04

10 Mar 2023Prophylactic Ablation to Prevent POAF! Does it work?01:02:58

03 Jun 2023Does Surgical Ablation offer additional benefit over Left Atrial Appendage Occlusion?00:40:22

15 Nov 2023Postoperative Atrial Fibrillation in Mitral Valve Surgery is NOT benign!00:49:18

28 Mar 2024The New 2024 STS Guidelines for the Surgical Treatment of Atrial Fibrillation!00:34:20

27 May 2024Long-term Outcomes of Convergent-Clip!01:30:07

24 Jul 2024SAVR vs TAVR with concomitant AF. Who gets treated and who does better?00:50:45

12 Aug 2024OAC or not after surgical LAAO?00:27:01

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