007 Lars Thuesen Deviating from the “norm”: Lars Thuesen explains why positive deviance is potent and why knowing how to flip matters. Lars is a world leader in the practice of Positive Deviance which is a bit of a hidden gem for fostering social change and impact. Lars will help us understand the leverage of Positive Deviance and how each of us can make use of this approach in our personal life and work world. 

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008 The Scratching Business: Ulziisuren Jamsran, UN Women Representative in Kyrgyzstan shares her leadership lessons from 20 years of international development in gender and women’s equality. She explains why aligning one’s actions to core values and principles are essential to serving those who are in the greatest need of assistance. She also explains why finding the positive deviances in a community is the lever for producing equality for women and community culture. Ulzii is a wisdom keeper for leading social change inside the United Nations.

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009 Safiya Ibn Garba: Founder of the Empowering Women for Excellence Initiative (EWEI) in Nigeria and she is the Director of Institutional Learning at Generations for Peace in Amman, Jordan. Safiya is a dedicated change agent who leads multiple programmes that empower women and youth to cultivate tolerance and citizenship in communities experiencing conflict and gender discrimination. 

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010_ Mike Staresinic returns to the swamp to talk about Ukraine. Mike has many years of experience working in Ukraine in support of cities and communities. He is currently working with a team that is on the ground in Eastern Ukraine. Mike has invested much of his professional life helping the Ukrainians. What is happening today is difficult for him to absorb even with all his experience in the country. In this episode, he will share his candid thoughts and feelings about the situation. He will also talk about how we can help.

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011_ Polina Makarova drove out of Kharkiv on February 23rd, 2022 as Russia began its invasion of Ukraine. She took with her six family members but not her husband. He stayed behind to help defend their home town. In this episode she speaks directly to the possible futures that are ahead for her country, the courage of Ukrainians and what is at stake if the world doesn’t back up its words with meaningful action.

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012 We have arrived at a critical moment in the transition from fossil fuel to renewable sources of energy. Ren21 is located at the center of a community of energy players. The organization is using its knowledge and expertise to do the hard leadership work of mobilizing this network to sustain the momentum required to shift the balance away from fossil fuel and onto renewable energy. Rana Adib, the Executive Director of Ren21, outlines why this moment is different and what we can do to help sustain the movement.

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012_Kitty Nooy & Tycho Prins: The Four Virtues of Leadership. We are living in a time of the rise of the oligarchy model of leadership. Which means giving power to a small group of people to decide the future of the larger collective. This is risky business. What the collective risks is the loss of fairness and justice to all. Kitty Nooy and Tycho Prins have made it their work to help groups and organizations develop ethical leadership built on the four virtues of leadership: Courage, Temperance, Justice and Wisdom. Kitty and Tycho combine their professional experience with philosophy to form a model ethical leadership that will help leaders navigate the moral and ethical challenges that come with leading.

See more about Kitty and her work at https://kittynooy.nl/ 

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013_Dennis Vergne: A Leader Who Doesn’t Intend To Lead. Dennis comes to the Swamp and shares his views on leading. And without giving it all away here, he displays his positive deviant orientation to building teams based on freedom and candor and trust. He also flips the field on how to lead change projects. He is more interested in taking actions than talking about “how to do it.” If you are tired of safe and vanilla strategies to lead change and build teams, Dennis Vergne’s ideas will provoke. 

Learn more about Dennis’ work at: https://basis.co.uk/ 

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014_Sadaffee Abid: Leading a Social Enterprise Focused on Women’s Empowerment and Leadership. Sadaffe is the Founder of CIRCLE: a social enterprise supporting the next generation of women leaders through the development of digital literacy, mentorship and greater participation in the economy. CIRCLE’S mission is to “Impact One Million women across Pakistan." She is well on her way to realizing that goal. In this episode, she shares her thoughts on leading, finding your voice and building leadership stamina. 

Learn more about Sadaffe and Circle here: https://www.circlewomen.co/ 

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015_Sharon Wood: A Life Spent Leading In Cross-Cultural Environments. Sharon Wood began her leadership journey “at home” as a teenager on the island of Macau. Over the course of fifty plus years she has steered her leadership career from that home base to Executive VP of business development for a Chinese global enterprise. Along the way, she has refined her views on what it takes to lead in a cross-general world. That includes both cultural and generational differences. Sharon has much wisdom to share and she is both honest and direct in her advice to younger leaders.

Read more about Sharon Wood here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sharon-wood-52156b6/ 

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017_Dave Cooper: A Navy Seals Who Swims Against the Current. Dave Cooper brings unique experiences to any conversation about leading. For twenty-five years, Dave was deployed to Bosnia, Yemen, Somalia, Afghanistan and Iraq. It was on these battlefields that Dave learned to create the conditions for team effectiveness based on candid “after action reviews” that challenge all members of the team to reflect on the individual and team performance. His four favorite words: “I screwed that up.”

Not a guy to stand down, Dave has moved on to study complex human systems and the power of storytelling. His mission today is to help teams and organizations tell a better story to all stakeholders by having greater awareness of complex systems we work inside.

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dave-cooper-387aaa3b/ 

Daniel Coyle: The Culture Code, Chapter 10 How to Create Cooperation in Small Groups

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018_Rick Torseth: A View From the Balcony #1 After a few month’s and several episodes, I’m pausing to answer the question: Why 10,000 Swamp Leaders? and 2) reflect on the mass shootings in Buffalo NY and Uvalde, Texas. I have no solutions AND I believe these events have exposed our elected Senators to be weak authority figures. The tragic events are also self-identifying many people who are choosing to raise their hand and lead without authority. In this short episode, we will highlight a few moves these people can make to mobilize the movement(s) they believe are necessary to end this epidemic of gun violence.

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Max Martina brings his deep experience with Adaptive Leadership and his classroom time with Ron Heifetz down to the swamp to share. This is a natural fit for both Max and we swamp dwellers. After all there is no difference between an adaptive challenge and a swamp issue. Max offers tight, specific points on how we can use ourselves to lead how we might do this work using adaptive leadership approaches. You will come away with a few new moves to support your leadership efforts. You will also learn what L=FOO(w) means.

https://cambridge-leadership.com/ 

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020_Knights: Knights Jump into the Swamp. We travel a different journey of leading in this episode. I am joined by four life-long friends. Bryan Garinger, Kevin Olson, Mark Eathorne and Rick Walker. These four men have been part of my life almost since birth. We shared a unique early life experience that has shaped and informed how we live our lives, how we show up in our work and how we choose to lead. This is a conversation about effective teams, wise authority and leading and working together. When you listen to our story, I hope you will remember how your early life experiences shaped who you are today. Knight Pride.

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021_Benjamin Taylor: This week I am talking with Benjamin Taylor about Systems Leadership, Barry Oshry and his deep commitment to transform public services. His core purpose is improving the lives of those most in need of support. Benjamin has built his consultancy, RedQuadrant, into a dynamic resource for helping UK governments agencies, charities and NGOs. The depth and breadth of his knowledge and experience in providing the most useful resource and intervention to match the situation is based on his mastery of multiple change frameworks and tools. And to prove it, he has brought his treasure chest and parked it just down below. Enjoy.

Benjamin Taylor Resources

The RedQuadrant tool shed

https://bit.ly/RQtoolshedshowandtell

Barry Oshry - There Is Now New Scientific Paradigm... Yet

https://www.powerandsystems.com/files/downloads/There%20is%20no%20new%20Paradigm.pdf

Systems Leadership Theory (second edition) - Macdonald et al

https://books.google.com/books?id=3v1cDwAAQBAJ&pg=PT574&lpg=PT574&dq=%22systems+leadership+theory%22+second+edition+macdonald&source=bl&ots=FVUWVFiPzJ&sig=ACfU3U1047d1WLFyiwxSMLUM7aRUjaExTg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwisnZuZm9f4AhWHZMAKHdB0Ca4Q6AF6BAgaEAM#v=onepage&q=%22systems%20leadership%20theory%22%20second%20edition%20macdonald&f=false

My rough systems thinking reading list

https://stream.syscoi.com/2020/05/06/a-very-rough-and-partial-draft-systems-thinking-reading-list/

 systems leadership theory-related

What is work?

https://chosen-path.org/2021/07/29/what-is-work-whats-your-definition/

systems leadership more broadly

Making sense of systems change and systems leadership

https://chosen-path.org/2021/06/21/making-sense-of-systems-change-and-systems-leadership/

#systemschange: the dangers of over-correcting in a good cause

https://chosen-path.org/2022/06/29/systemschange-often-over-correcting-in-a-good-cause/

‘power and systems’

The blue dot and the terrible dance of power

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Families are complex human systems. Running a business is always a complex system. Put the two complexities together and there are bound to be swamp issues at work. Bart Parrott talks about the challenges family businesses face when transitions are happening. Given that each of us has a family and we all need to navigate life and career transitions, Bart offers some useful ideas and approaches to how we can “wise up” our transition process. Bart wants to know what you aspire to in the future and what you want to build together. 

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In 2012, Elizabeth Filippouli raised her hand to lead. In so doing, she has fostered a movement to promote values-based thinking and accountability in leadership among women around the world. She has launched two organizations that support women building their capacity to lead inside a supportive community of peers and mentors. Global Thinkers Forum and Athena40 Forum are the containers for leadership capacity building that is spilling out across the world. Elizabeth is also an author. During the pandemic, she released From Women To The World: Letters For A New Century. Listen to her journey and get on board.

Global Thinkers Forum  https://www.globalthinkersforum.org/ 

Athena40 Forum  https://www.athena40forum.com/ 

Her Book: From Women To The World: Letters For A New Century

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024_Annika Torseth: Community Impact Through Second Chances. Jails are often the end of the road for many people. For a few, a jail is a place where a second chance might emerge. Annika Torseth, a forensic case manager joins the podcast and shares what she has learned about how to hold difficult conversations, building a trusting relationship and how to design a re-entry system that will support a better life on the outside. 

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025_Jole Berlage-Buccellati discusses the potential Highly Sensitive People bring to the world and the workplace. Jole’s coaching mission is to support the empowerment of highly-sensitive and highly-gifted people to self-actualize, embrace their sensuality, their talents, their power and their unique gifts. The four capacity building themes that guide her work are resilience, adaptability, joy and authenticity. All of us can benefit from understanding and leveraging these themes for growth in both our life and our work. Jole helps us understand how we can do that work.

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026_John Scherer: Facing The Tiger 

John Scherer brings a lifetime of developing leaders around the world to the swamp. He shares what is possible when we face our tigers and the five deep questions we must answer to understand our purpose and power. As John says: “You don’t need to CHANGE yourself. You need to COME HOME to yourself. This changes EVERYTHING.”  John also shares how he mobilized a leadership movement in Poland. Enjoy a conversation with a man of great passion and joy and discover as he exhibits his own passion and purpose. 

Links:

https://scherercenter.com/

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027_ Lea Ranalder is a committed advocate for building more sustainable cities. Her work with UN-Habitat is focused on developing more renewable energy resources that mitigate climate change in our greatest urban hubs. Cities are both the heartbeat of countries and vulnerable collectives that impact millions of lives everyday. Lea brings her years of experience and passion to facilitate the hard work helping cities, local government and stakeholders work together for the good of the commons.

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Terry Rogers has been a practicing physician for over 56 years. He was the director of respiratory and  critical care at Seattle Swedish Hospital,  served  a Senior Medical Officer and  CEO for King County Blue Shield.  He was also CEO of the Foundation for Healthcare Quality in Seattle.  He retired as Medical Director of Lakeside-Milam Recovery Centers and still sees patients on a weekly basis. Terry has given his life to the good health of other people.

Terry is also the author of Faces of Recovery,  a remarkable book that features before and after photos of patients who have been in a 28 day residential treatment program.  The visual alteration that occurs during treatment is stunning. Terry's photography provides these people with self-evidence that they can live a healthy life.

In our conversation, Terry talks candidly about the corrosive effects of alcohol and drugs, his own experiences and the power that art and photography can have in how we see ourselves and what we can achieve.

You can find Terry's book: Faces of Recovery via the links below


http://terryrogersphotography.com

Food For Thought Piece

https://readframes.com/food-for-thought-faces-of-recovery-by-terry-rogers/

https://www.blurb.com/b/11051952-faces-of-recovery 

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Julia Fabris McBride is the Interim President and CEO as well as the Chief Leadership Development Officer of Kansas Leadership Center. 

She is co-author with Ed O’Malley of the recently published book “When Everyone Leads”

The Kansas Leadership Center (KLC) is a one of a kind, non-profit organization committed to fostering leadership for stronger, healthier and more prosperous Kansas communities and around the world. 

Julia shares what she has learned about developing adaptive leadership capacity in the state of Kansas and beyond. Why civic leadership is important and what can happen when individuals marry the choice to lead with the capacity to to mobilize communities. 

Julia’s books can be found through these links:

When Everyone Leads (Bard Press, January 2023)

 Teaching Leadership: Case-in-Point, Case Teaching, and Coaching. 

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029_ Guillaume Wiatr joins us in the swamp to explore the power of strategic narratives and why building one is an act of leadership. We will explore the difference between stories and narrative and how to use them both inside your team or organization to mobilize change. Guillaume will also talk about External Discipline and External Freedom and how to cultivate both through a reflective practice.

Guillaume's website: Metahelm

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030 _  Judy Rees shares how simple questions, sharp listening and exploring metaphors can access fresh ideas, improved strategies and sharper actions for addressing challenges and accessing more human potential.

Links

ReesMcCann

Books by Judy

Judy Rees’ Ebook

Clean Language: Revealing Metaphors and Opening Minds

The Five Minute Coach 

Buzzing Online Workshops 

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031_ Leen Gorissen: Biologist and founder of Center4NI takes us on a journey to reconnect us with our own Natural Intelligence. She asserts that the difficult conditions of our planet call for us to focus more on developing our Natural Intelligence than seeking artificial solutions. Leen shares the Story of Wolves. A remarkable regenerative example that demonstrates how nature provides all of us with the ways and means to restore health to planet earth. Leen is providing grounding for hope for our future if we are willing to use ourselves as agents of change. 

Leen's Links

Website

Book: Building the future of Innovation

Company Website Centre4NI

Book website: 

Book Video

Ted Talk

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032_Kurt O’Brien, friend, thought partner and leadership teacher comes to the Swamp to share his insights on how to teach leadership. Kurt brings 22+ years of experience helping emerging leaders in healthcare build their craft of leading. He shares what gives him hope for the future and reflects on the importance of balancing classroom learning with real world experiments.

Kurt Links:

Kurt’s website

Kurt’s Book

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033_Larisa Halilovic jumps into the Swamp to share her deep wisdom on leading and building teams. Her leadership journey began when she escaped her war torn country, became a refugee and learned how to adapt and thrive in a new country. Larisa has over twenty years of experience leading teams in the United Kingdom, Bosnia and Herzegovina and Serbia. She has made it her personal mission to introduce and support mentorship programmes for women around the world. Larisa is a glowing source of energy, infectious and deeply wise. Her ideas will help us all lead just a touch better.

Larisa Links:

LinkedIN

TedX Talks
Emotional Intelligence in an Artificial World

Larisa Halilović: Core Values - Your Inner Compass

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034 Kush Doshi jumps into the Swamp to share his views on leading inside a community health system. He brings his passion for advancing health efforts for communities of color and mobilizing health equity by addressing the social determinants of health within communities. But he doesn’t stop here. He is also an advocate for equity, inclusion, and diversity within the workforce so that reflects the population it serves. 

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Kit Lykketoft is the Director of Conventions at Wonderful Copenhagen. The official tourism organization of the Capital Region of Copenhagen. Her work is attracting and convening international association conferences to the city while designing a sustainable agenda for attendees. Finding this balance is the challenge of leading. Kit brings a strategist and change maker mindset to proactively use research and future trends to design steps she and her team can take today that support the conference community and the wellbeing of the planet. 

Kitt’s Links:

Wonderful Copenhagen

https://www.wonderfulcopenhagen.com/wonderful-copenhagen/wonderful-copenhagen 

Best Cities: 

https://www.bestcities.net/about-us/meet-the-best-cities-team/

Interview https://kongres-magazine.eu/2021/11/kit-lykketoft-sustainability-has-become-part-of-copenhagens-dna/ 

Kitt on Youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdVeGzcrV1o

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Rachel Musson comes to the Swamp to discuss how her organization, ThoughtBox Education, is reimagining education for kids around the world. Their work is helping students develop the relevant skills to create and sustain a thriving world. She shares the Triple Wellbeing Culture model that focuses on care for self, others and the world. We discuss the value of being a Tempered Radical and how to act like one. The work of reimagining education is complex and messy. Rachel and her team practice Active Patience to keep it all moving. We could all benefit from some active patience.

Rachel’s Links

www.rachelmusson79.com 

www.thoughtboxeducation.com

Leadership course!
www.thoughtboxeducation.com/be-more

Linkedin

Our ‘patrons’ page: www.thoughtboxeducation.com/patrons

A few resources / books / people mentioned:

1. Active Hope – Chris Johnstone & Joanna Macy
2. The More Beautiful World – Charles Eisenstein
3. Bayo Akomolafe
4. Rebecca Solnit – George Orwell’s Roses
5. Schooling the World (a really recommended 1hr documentary which I may or may not have mentioned!)
6. Tempered Radicals

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Eka Gigauri comes to the swamp to share her twenty year trek to establish transparency, accountability and social integrity in her country of Georgia. Her story begins with the Rose Revolution in Georgia in 2003 when the country separated from the Soviet Union. Today Eka is the Executive Director of Transparency International’s county office in Georgia. She leads a team committed to rooting out systems and networks of corruption inside her beloved country. Eka shares her thoughts and approach to being courageous and supporting her team while sticking with the fundamental work of building a Georgia for the common good. 

Eka’s Links

Transparency International

Transparency International/Georgia

Eka’s LinkedIn

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040_ Benjamin Taylor

Benjamin Taylor, RedQuadrant founder, returns to the Swamp for an enlightening conversation on two topics:

The Problem with Adaptive Leadership

The Problem with Consulting 

I asked Benjamin to return to the podcast (listen here to Episode #021) because he has clear and strong thinking on both adaptive leadership and the world of consulting.

Adaptive leadership is a bit of a mainstay in my consulting work and since I am a consultant, it was hard to resist discussing these two juicy Medium pieces. I respect Benjamin’s deep thinking on these topics so I suspected he would bring some grounding and provocative perspectives. He did all of that and more. Enjoy his critical thinking and his experience based point of view.

Benjamin's Links

• Redquadrant Toolshed
• Benjamin's Blog
• Benjamin's Medium Page
• Barry Oshry
• Chris Argyris: Productive Reasoning
• Peter Block and Peter Koestenbaum: Confronting Our Freedom
• Peter Block: Six Conversations
• Donald Schon quote 
• Ed Schein Podcast Episode
• Top Tips For Consulting 
• 'The Force'
• Being In The Middle
• The Terrible Dance of Power
• Robust Systems
• Limits to method/swampy lowlands

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Episode 039  Irwin Turbitt comes to the swamp to share his complex and life altering journey from being a police commander in Northern Ireland to teaching and building leadership capacity at the Harvard Kennedy School and Oxford/Said Business school. 

Irwin had earned his teaching and consulting credentials the “harder way". He began on the streets of Northern Ireland by working on the century-old challenges for a peacefully resolve to the religious strife inside his country.

His personal leadership challenges plus his willingness to ask harder questions lead him to university to studying leadership in greater depth. There he discovered a new way to address hard, wicked problems through helping people close the “knowing-doing gap” by building more skill and leadership craft.

Irwin offers us experienced based ideas and opinions on what it takes to lead in this swampy world. We all can benefit from his experiences.  

Irwin’s Links

Irwin’s LinkedIn

Policing The Drumcree Demonstrations (a paper)

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040 Anne Gibbon joins me to share how her father, the United States Naval Academy and her intuition all conspired to form the leader that she is today. Anne was both the 2007 Heavyweight National Amateur Boxing Championships and a Second-Team All-American rower, and was  inducted into the Academy Athletic Hall of Fame.  That was just the beginning of her leadership journey. We discuss her thoughts on Ethical leadership, the importance of emotional self-regulation and using power for good.

Today Anne is the co-founder of Matri, Inc. which helps critical decision-makers consume more information, intuitively, and faster, to make billion dollar decisions from previously invisible data. As you will learn, she senses this work has become her life’s work and that she is in it for the long haul. 

Given Anne’s track record, I suspect she is on the path to changing the world for the better. 

Anne’s Links

Matri, Inc.

Anne’s LinkedIn

Anne Boxing

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Cecile Demailly comes to the Swamp to share insights from her book “The Middle Manager’s Survival Guide.” Cecile spent almost twenty years as one of those “middles” in global organizations. She brings her lessons learned from that world and adds fifteen years of experience helping the middle manager community as a consultant. Her ideas are practical, accessible and can be used for managing in the business world and as well as the world of life, family and community. 

Cecile’s Links

Cecile’s Book

Cecile’s LinkedIn 

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Meg Zeenat Wamithi comes to the swamp to share how the work of her organization, Mindmapper, is helping youth to learn how to take care of their bodies, minds & bank accounts, engage in meaningful relationships and take part in work experience opportunities in their local communities. 

Meg is candid about the mental health challenges she faced and she tells us how the network she is building plans to support young people to learn how to take care of themselves.

Meg’s Links:

Meg’s Speaker Page

Mindmapper

LinkedIn

Women of Influence UK

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Deborah Jones comes to the Swamp and shares what it took to build the Community Leadership Programme and the Violence Reduction Network in Leicester, England. She describes how the commitment of Leicester’s diverse network of leaders has fostered a culture of leadership practice and produced an enhanced impact that benefits their city and county. And they all seem to be having a great time supporting each other on their learning journey.

Debbie’s Links:

Jones Consulting

LinkedIn

www.violencereductionnetwork.co.uk 

VRN Community Leadership Video

Community Leadership Showcase

Jones Consulting Part 2

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Larai Diana Gwani comes to the swamp and shared the challenges and successes she has produced in her role as a government official in the Kaduna State Legislature. She has spent  her life living and working inside a patriarchal culture.  She has learned how to use herself to lead inside this difficult environment. She is fighter and advocate for gender & social inclusion as well as citizen stakeholder engagement.

Larai is a mentor and role model for the next generations of women leaders emerging in Kaduna state government. She mixes compassion, truth and tough love candor to help others develop their capacity to lead themselves and other people.

Larai's Links

Larai LinkedIn

ARISE

Empowering Women for Excellence Initiative

Kaduna State Government

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Jerilyn Brusseau offers evidence that one woman, with a vision to heal can change the lives of thousands of people. Her story begins with heartbreak when she learns that her brother, Dan Cheney, was shot down and killed in Vietnam just 15 days after he arrived in the country. In that moment, Jerilyn joined nearly 60,000 other American families who lost family members in a war that would last almost 20 years. Almost immediately Jerilyn understood that there were also Vietnamese families suffering equal heartache from losing loved ones. 

So began Peace Trees Vietnam.

In our conversation, Jerilyn takes us on a good will journey from Seattle to Vietnam to heal relationships and clear over 1500 acres of more than 115,000 unexploded bombs, land mines, mortar shells and grenades and replace all that ordinance with trees of peace.

But there is more. The Peace Trees Vietnam organization has facilitated the building of kindergartens, libraries and community centers. Probably more important, Jerilyn and her team have helped heal the damaged relationships between two countries through simple acts of kindness and community building. Jerilyn offers much for us to learn about what is possible when deep loss is turned into helping other people. 

Peace Trees Vietnam

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Nyuon William is an accomplished lawyer and advocate for peace, gender equality and human rights. She joins us to share her journey growing up in the midst of Sudan’s civil war, being raised by parents who advocated and supported her education and her development path to becoming a lawyer. 

Her specialization includes reforms for women’s equality, as well as the youth, peace and security agenda. As a lawyer, Nyuon is a role model for women both inside her country and around the world. She uses her legal expertise in support of  the movement for equal rights and fair treatment of youth and especially young women. Nyuon’s humility and gentle manor disguise a woman of great resolve and commitment to reforming her country for the common good of everyone. 

Nyuon is the National Director of the National Alliance of Women Lawyers (NAWL), which is dedicated to promoting and protecting the rights of women and girls.

Nyuon’s Links

LinkedIn

Seeds of Hope and Action

National Alliance of Women Lawyers

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Joe Badman joins me in the swamp to share his passion for working with public service individuals and teams. Joe discovered early in his career that he was quite good at helping teams collaborate and solve messy problems. Through this work, he unearthed his passion to help improve people’s  lives. We all rely on our local governments to deliver high quality services.  Joe and his team help organizations build the capacity to both perform at a higher level and be more self-reliant in the process. We all win with this outcome.  Joe understands that there is magic in helping people.

He would know since he is also a magician.

Joe's Links

Basis

LinkedIn

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Karin Zastrow comes to the Swamp and she arrives with over twenty years of first hand experience working as a leader. Our conversation starts when Karin is tasked with designing her organization’s leadership development strategy. Without a budget. Immediately we come to understand that her unique combination of persistence, curiosity, and action is ideally suited for this challenge. Her hard work leads to the development of Direct Leadership. Karin details how she discovered the power of leading by doing and what it takes to master this leadership capacity. Karin has been teaching, coaching and facilitating Direct Leadership work for over 20 years. She is not resting. Just ahead are new enhancements to her approach to leading. Take a listen.

Karin’s Links 

Karin LinkedIn

Direct Leadership

Direct Leadership Training Information 

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Anne-Fleur Goll joins me to share her story of a call to action on climate change that started small and then suddenly it was big and global. Anne-Fleur balances being a climate consultant on the Deloitte Sustainability team with her climate activism. She has learned a few things on how to create and sustain a movement as well as how to manage and balance these dual roles and take care of herself. 

Anne's Links

LinkedIn

HEC Speech

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Episode 051_ Tom Tyner comes to the swamp to share his decision to help preserve public lands for future generations. He shares his decision to leave his position as legal counsel to a global bank, move his family from San Francisco to the Seattle area and dedicate his time and expertise to secure parklands, forests, range land and wilderness for future generations. Tom’s a humorist guy so he holds our interest as he shares his lessons and his wisdom on life and leading. Tommy, the trees, the habitat and all of us thank you.

Tom's Links

Trust For Public Lands

Tom's LinkedIn Profile

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Episode 052_ Joanne Flinn visits the swamp to discuss how company directors can integrate the environmental, social and governance agenda inside their organization and thrive. Joanne is the Chair of ESG Institute and the author of Greensight: The Sustainability Guide for Company Directors. She discusses the challenges of the ESG agenda as well as ideas for implementation. 

Joanne’s Links

LinkedIn

Book

ESG Institute

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Episode 053_  Nick Conigrave brings to the swamp his marriage of deep leadership study with the pragmatism needed to help people build their capacity to lead for greater impact. You will hear Nick’s passion for helping people as he shares the range of approaches he uses to construct leadership programmes and coaching strategies that are useful to all. Nick is a true  bricolage of leadership development.

Nick’s Links

LinkedIn profile

6 Team Conditions

Leadership as a learning activity

Leading Systems towards transformative learning

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Martin Thomas and Mick Yates, two friends I admire, come to the Swamp to share their encore stories and second acts. Both men returned to university late in their professional careers and that decision changed the trajectory of their lives, the focus of their commitments and how they have chosen to make a difference as they conjure up second acts and most likely, third and forth acts.  All of us will learn a few things about how to design a life well lived.

Links

Martin Thomas

LinkedIn

Call4Change

Multicapital Scorecard 

Mick Yates

LinkedIn

Mick Yates Photography 

Photo|Frome

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Tracey Camilleri and Samatha Rockey come to the Swamp and bring a treasure trove of research based thinking that leverages both the art and science necessary for building successful groups. They share their recommendations from their new book: The Social Brain: The Psychology of Successful Groups. We discuss  the Dunbar Number, the value creation that comes from investing time and energy in  fostering belonging and forming bonds that lead to bigger results. Samatha and Tracey are committed optimists who are using their research and writing to help organizations today and foster better working environments for future generations.

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Tracey’s LinkedIn

Samantha’s LinkedIn

Thompson Harrison

Their Book: The Social Brain

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Ellen Schall of New York University comes to the Swamp and shares her wisdom on how to develop a leadership reflective practice. Ellen’s journey began when she worked in New York City starting as a Legal Aid Society attorney. She moved to New York University in 1992 and it is still her home. She taught the Leadership course: Reflective Practice: Learning from Work.

 Ellen shares her thoughts on the importance of distinguishing role from self, how to develop a self-reflection practice, her definition of leading and the deep value that comes from working on the front line of public service. Ellen is a wisdom sharer. Your time listening to Ellen will deepen your capacity to use yourself to lead. But will mean you will need to develop and follow your own Reflective Leadership Practice. She will help you with that work.

Ellen’s Links

Ellen Schall: NYU Wagner 

A Reflective Practitioner Journey paper

Learning to Love the Swamp: Reshaping Education for Public Service paper

Leadership Reflections New Book

Ellen Schall Experience Fund

Ellen Schall Harvard Kennedy School Case

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Lianne Morgan comes to the Swamp and shares her thoughts on the value of following a mindfulness practice. Lianne is a role model for us all. She has a long history of navigating life as a corporate leader. Long enough to know when it’s time to depart and how to make that transition. Today Lianne is a mindfulness coach. She offers wisdom in this episode on how to design a practice of mindfulness, the value of following that practice and how to use your body as a medium for learning and growth.

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Lianne Morgan Website

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Maxime Fern and Michael Johnstone are at the forefront of taking Adaptive Leadership out of academia and into boardrooms and learning spaces around the world. They come to the swamp to share their great book Provocation as Leadership: A roadmap for Adaptation and Change. Maxime and Michael have been working in family and organizational systems for most of their careers. They believe provocations are both necessary and helpful to building healthy groups. We discuss what makes up useful provocation, why it matters and they provide coaching on how to begin this important work.  Our conversation just might provoke some new ideas and approaches for you in your work and life.

Links

Vantage Point Consulting

Provocation as Leadership book

Michael’s LinkedIN

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Natalie Trotta comes to the Swamp to share her decision to alter her career trajectory and lead herself in the pursuit of building a wellness community. Natalie’s journey is important because she highlights that leading is always a choice and it can come from anyone and at any time. Natalie models  that leading has nothing to do with age or “life experience.” She has made a commitment to use herself to help others while she figures out the small details. Natalie understands that the next steps are revealed only when one has begun walking the path.

Natalie’s Links

Andiamo Substack

LinkedIn

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060_Janie Ekberg comes to the Swamp to share her stories of leading across multiple social impact projects. Her story is personal for me because she found a way to mobilize me and get me involved in Camp Siberia and in so doing, change my life and perspective on what it takes to lead without authority.  Janie has also changed the trajectory of  hundreds of other people in her community and around the world. She comes to share her stories of leading, her insights on how to foster a movement and how serving the common good turns is the best work we can experience. 

Links

Island Treasure

BI Theater

Camp Siberia Story

Camp Siberia YouTube

Bainbridge Performing Arts

Bainbridge Island Volunteer Caregivers

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Geoff Mead joins us in the Swamp to explore the significance of the stories we tell ourselves, the narratives we use to guide our life and how they shape our identity.

Geoff is the founding director of Narrative Leadership Associates, a consultancy focused on the use of storytelling for sustainable leadership. He is a master guide in the emerging field of narrative leadership and storytelling in organizations. He will share some stories and offer us guidance on how we can adapt our narrative to support the life we seek to live.

Geoff’s Links

Personal Blog.  www.cominghometostory.com

Centre for Narrative Leadership (not for profit) www.narrativeleadership.org

Narrative Leadership Associates (business) www.narrativeleadership.com

Geoff’s Books

Coming Home to Story

Telling the Story: The Heart and Soul of Successful Leadership

Gone in the Morning

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Geoff Mead returns to the Swamp to discuss narrative leadership. Often acts of leading begin as a conversation.  A conversation that might be internal or conversations with other people. It is important for people who choose to lead, to understand how to craft and use narrative to mobilize people to take action. Geoff helps us understand how to do this work  in this episode. 

Geoff is the founding director of Narrative Leadership Associates, a consultancy focused on the use of storytelling for sustainable leadership. He is a master guide in the emerging field of narrative leadership and storytelling in organizations. He will share some stories and offer us guidance on how we can adapt our narrative to support the life we seek to live.

Geoff’s Links

Personal Blog.  www.cominghometostory.com

Centre for Narrative Leadership (not for profit) www.narrativeleadership.org

Narrative Leadership Associates (business) www.narrativeleadership.com

Geoff’s Books

Coming Home to Story

Telling the Story: The Heart and Soul of Successful Leadership

Gone in the Morning

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Jill Hufnagel comes to the swamp and shares her perspective and experience helping people develop leadership capacity. Jill served as guest faculty on the Harvard Kennedy School’s Art & Practice of Adaptive Leadership program and as a senior associate with Cambridge Leadership Associates, along with running her own consultancy JHC&C. In our conversation, Jill discusses the importance of having a clear purpose for leading, how to develop your leadership craft and she offers wisdom on navigating the challenges of leading

Jill’s Links

https://primacentral.org/education/prima-leadership-academy/ 

https://issuu.com/kansasleadershipcenter/docs/journalwinter_final_web 

https://www.jillhufnagel.com/blog 

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Jill’s Book

Jill’s LinkedIn page

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Ethan Schutz, President and CEO of The Schutz Company pays a visit to the swamp and shares the history and the work that is The Human Element. Ethan takes us back to when his father, Will Schutz developed his thinking and motivation for helping people develop greater self-awareness, aliveness and candor through telling more truth. Will developed FIRO Theory which has become a fundamental philosophy that has influenced many people inside the world of organizational development. Ethan has led the organization for 15 years and he brings a deep understanding of group dynamics and how the work of the Human Element does transform shared work and relationships inside organizations.

Ethan’s Links

The Human Element Company

BCon Global

The Human Element Story

Ethan’s TEDx talk Can’t You See I’m Busy Being Miserable?

The Schutz Company

Ethan Schutz: Trust and the Bottom Line

The Joys of Being Wrong

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Joanne Murphy, Professor of Inclusive Leadership at Birmingham Business School comes to the swamp and discusses how we can lead inside volatile environments.  She brings a lifetime of lived experience on this topic.  Joanne was raised in Northern Ireland during the “troubles.” She learned first hand what is required to lead in volatile environments. Joanne is an academic, author and teacher who is committed to helping individuals and organizations build the organizational scaffolding that is essential in these troubling times. She wraps all this information inside deep passion and energy. 

Joanne’s Links

Joanne’s Book: Management and War: How Organisations Navigate Conflict and Build Peace’ 

 Joanne’s Website

Public Service Podcast

The Leadership Challenge of Northern Ireland

Twitter - @changeresearch

Birmingham University - https://www.birmingham.ac.uk/staff/profiles/business/murphy-joanne

Joanne’s Linkedin - www.linkedin.com/in/joanne-murphyleadership

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Nick Ellem comes to the Swamp to share a comprehensive exploration of Adaptive Leadership as well as his journey to teach and help people building adaptive capacity. Nick speaks directly to the reasons why many leadership development programs fall short of expectations. He then  introduces his antidote: The Leadership Learning Cycle which is built on four elements:  

• Academy 
• Lab
• Podium
• Temple 

The leadership learning cycle offers an integrated framework for building the range of capacities people need to build leadership craft. Enjoy a fresh approach to leadership development. 

Nick’s Links

LinkedIn

Leadership Learning Cycle

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Eva Grosman joins me in the swamp to share how her “life factory setting” which is based on hope and courage, has guided her in building the Centre for Democracy and Peacebuilding as well as a community of peacebuilders around the world. Listen close because Eva offers a multitude of specific, actionable moves each of us can take to lead on difficult challenges. Eva’s life work and impact is a model for the potency of personal agency. 

Eva’s Links

Centre For Democracy and Peacebuilding

LinkedIn

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Elvis Fraser comes to the Swamp to share his commitment to helping non-profit organizations realize greater measurable results from their social impact investments through wise monitoring, learning and evaluation strategies.

He and his Sanfoka Consulting team align their strategies to advance social justice and equity in all aspects of their work. Elvis has a rich history of leading and mentoring teams around the world and he brings his wisdom to our conversation. 

Elvis's Links

Sanfoka Consulting

Elvis LinkedIn

Sanfoka Case 

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Three Horizons: The Patterning of Hope 

Bill Sharpe visits the swamp and brings his Three Horizon framework for navigating the future. Bill is an independent researcher who helps people work together to create transformational change in the face of an uncertain future. Bill will explain what makes each of the three horizons distinct and necessary for addressing the future. The beauty and significance of the Three Horizon framework is the simplicity of understanding and its ease of use. Bill will explain it all and then you can get to work sorting your own Three Horizons.

Links

Three Horizons book, and short video introductions by Kate Raworth and Nigel Topping

The Three Horizons framework explained by Bill Sharpe

www.h3uni.org/resource-library/

Three Horizons

For Three Horizons resources, visit: https://futurestewards.com/3h-practice-resources/

To contact the home of the Three Horizons Hub, Future Stewards, send a message via the LinkedIn page

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Joanne Murphy and Keith Grint come to the swamp to discuss their views on leadership and the effort required to do it well. Joanne and Keith are deeply informed on this topic of leading. Their academic background includes teaching, research and writing. We discuss the differences between command, management and leadership. All three approaches matter and we explore the value of each role. The state of the world calls for more people with the stamina to lead. In this episode, stamina will be supported with craft.

Links

Joanne’s Links

Joanne’s Book: Management and War: How Organisations Navigate Conflict and Build Peace’ 

University of Birmingham

 Joanne’s Website

Public Service Podcast

The Leadership Challenge of Northern Ireland

Twitter - @changeresearch

10000 SwampLeaders Joanne Murphy Podcast (Episode)

Keith’s Links

Bio

LinkedIn

keith.grint@wbs.ac.uk

New Blog: ILA Blog article: Care-Full Leadership: https://ilaglobalnetwork.org/care-full-leadership/ 

New Articles:

“Closing ranks: Leadership and the mundanization of the extraordinary in military history” Leadership https://doi.org/10.1177/17427150241238811 

WhatsApp to Sunak’ Leadership (2024) https://doi.org/10.1177/17427150241240598 

New Books:

A Cartography of Resistance: Leadership, Management & Command 

https://global.oup.com/academic/product/a-cartography-of-resistance-9780198921745?lang=en&cc=gb  

Mutiny & Leadership https://global.oup.com/academic/search?q=grint+mutiny&cc=gb&lang=en 

Leadership: Limits and Possibilities 2nd ed. (with Owain Smolovic Jones) https://www.bloomsbury.com/uk/leadership-9781350333130/ 

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Benjamin Taylor makes his third appearance in the Swamp and he brings some useful distinctions with him. We discuss the value and importance of understanding the positive and negative dynamics that differentiation and integration have on group dynamics and productivity. But it is not all that simple. There are at least four dynamics at play at any time in your work groups. Benjamin maps these group dynamics and shares moves that you can make to lead, manage and facilitate more effective group-work outcomes.

Benjamin’s Links

Benjamin Taylor LinkedIN post

Benjamin Taylor’s Medium Page

https://antlerboy.com/ 

Barry Oshry: Power and Systems

Sandra Janoff: Future Search

Safford Beer

Benjamin 10000 SwampLeaders Episode 21

Benjamin Taylor 10000 SwampLeaders Episode 39

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Aidan McQuade joins me in the Swamp to discuss his book, Ethical Leadership: Moral Decision-Making Under Pressure and his model “The Cruciform of Agency.” Aidan was born in Northern Ireland and grew up during the period known as “the troubles.” He is wiser for that experience. He has dedicated his life to humanitarian work in some of the most difficult conditions over the last twenty years. Our conversation explores his experiences leading aid organizations and the hard decisions that need to be made that affect human life.  We explore his model and how individuals can use it to locate a space of agency in the most difficult of situations. Aidan is also the author of two fiction books as well as a wonderful blog. Enjoy the insights from a man who has impacted the world for the better. 

Aidan Links

Aidan McQuade

Aidan’s book: Ethical Leadership

Moral Courage in Leadership

Leadership in the “gray-zone”

Service to the State

The Undiscovered Country

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001 Mike Staresinic help's launch 10,000 SwampLeaders with his harrowing story of leading in the Balkans during the struggle for free and open democracy. Mike is a friend and thought partner who brings real world experience and deep commitment to his work for social change. 

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002 Mark Clark is CEO of Generations For Peace located in Amman, Jordan. GFP is dedicated to sustainable conflict transformation at the grassroots, Generations For Peace empowers volunteer leaders of youth to promote active tolerance and responsible citizenship in communities experiencing different forms of conflict and violence.

They do this work through carefully facilitated sport-based games, art, advocacy, dialogue, and empowerment activities provide an entry point to engage children, youth, and adults, and a vehicle for integrated education and sustained behavioural change.

Mark shares his global leadership journey and talks about lessons learned from working in different cultures and the value of investing in youth around the world. 

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003 Kate Cooper calls herself a "lippy grandmother, that is all." But she really is so much more than that. Kate is a role model for community building and leading change that directly helps the people in her Birmingham, UK community. She is the Director of Birmingham Food Council CIC, a Visiting Fellow at Aston University and of course, a grandmother. Kate's candor and modesty are a potent combination for all of us to model. In this episode, she is our guide to how one can transform how a city feeds it's people.

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004 Nita Baum joins us in the Swamp to share two leadership journeys she is navigating. The first journey is as Founder of B*Free, a consultancy that partners with organizations to transform Workplaces to HealingSpaces for greater equity, humanity and sustainable wellbeing. This is big work and Nita talks about why it matters and what she has learned about helping organizations transform.

Nita's is also on a simultaneous journey as Board President of Solar Responders, whose mission is to equip first responder stations with renewable backup energy systems so no lives are lost because first responders lack electricity in Puerto Rico, an island plagued by earthquakes, storms, and a fragile energy grid.  More big work.

Either of these roles is a full time gig and yet Nita is leading both with grace and commitment. Learn how she manages these projects and models what she advocates.

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005 Jacob Mayne is an Englishman living in Paris. Immediately we know he’s on to something wise. He is a founder and Managing Partner of NewAngles Consultancy. His work is focused on sustainability and change strategy. He is also an Affiliate Professor at Paris/HEC School of Management and a visiting lecturer at Science Po, Paris. Jacob’s primary goal is helping leaders integrate positive, sustainable business practices into their organizations.

He balances his professional focus with a love of the arts, music and a gift for writing. He is a joyful spirit with glint in his eye and deep commitment to helping improve the future of planet earth.

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006 Matt Barnaby is a consultant who comes to the Swamp bearing an eclectic portfolio of talents that he deploys to build community capacities. He is a gifted artist which immediately means he sees the world much differently than most of us. He is a master facilitator who has a compelling sense of how to create and hold space for groups of people to work and grow together. As a result of the pandemic, he has added the capacity for helping people, teams and organizations develop their approach to hybrid work. Join Matt in the swamp to hear his ideas. 

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