Yet Another Value Podcast (Andrew Walker)

The management team from Tidewater Offshore (TDW) comes on the podcast to discuss Tidewater and why we could be at an inflection point for the offshore space.  

TDW's investor relations page (with investor deck): https://investor.tdw.com/overview/default.aspx 

December OSV market report (from seabrokers): https://www.seabrokers.no/wp-content/uploads/SEABREEZE_December.pdf

Chapters 

• 0:00 Intro 
• 2:50 What's different in the current cycle? 
• 8:00 Why supply is so limited in offshore 
• 13:10 What is TDW seeing on the demand side? 
• 26:00 Discussing TDW's valuation and where earnings can go as rates rise 
• 32:30 TDW's potential utilization 38:10 EBITDA to free cash flow conversion 
• 43:00 What do day rates look like right now? 
• 47:10 How has TDW set up their fleet to take advantage of rising rates? 
• 51:10 But seriously.... why is this time different? 
• 57:30 How low would oil prices need to go to start impacting offshore drilling demand? 
• 59:00 TDW capital allocation going forward

Chadd Garcia, Portfolio Manager and Senior Research Analyst at Schwartz Investment Counsel Inc. - Ave Maria Focused Fund, joins the podcast for his third appearance to share his thesis on SECURE Energy Services Inc. (TSX: SES), a leading waste management and energy infrastructure company.

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Daloopa

[1:48] What is Secure Energy Services $SES.TO and why is it interesting to Chadd

[4:56] What is Chadd seeing with $SES.TO that the market is missing

[6:46] $SES.TO's recent run-up, catalysts, acquisitions

[15:53] Risk that Western Canada is drilling a lot less oil in the future

[19:15] Capital allocation / changing the corporate name

[24:58] Continue aggressive buy-backs or focus on tuck-in acquisitions

[29:30] Customer insourcing potential

[31:40] Waste processing facilities, waste businesses; why haven't people picked up on this aspect of the story thus far

[36:00] Bought a lot of assets in distress; what has happened that drives those assets in distress that's not a risk here?

[37:46] Separation of businesses argument

[40:55] Scenarios for why $SES.TO thesis doesn't work out / final thoughts

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Bill Chen, a real estate investor and Managing Director at Rhizome Partners, returns to the podcast to discuss the performance of publicly-traded real estate market and why it's done so well since his last podcast appearance in October 2023 + pitch on Apartment Investment & Management Co. "AIMCO" (NYSE: AIV).

For more information about Rhizome Partners, please visit: http://rhizomepartners.com/

AIV pitch deck: https://docsend.com/view/4n5xq5mc58xwhx64

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Ycharts

[2:18] Capital cycle for publicly traded real estate vs. privately traded

[8:53] Five cap rate: how does it interplay with the Treasury rate?

[13:02] Publicly traded real estate company performance: have these REITs done well because of management or in spite of management

[20:11] Due diligence trips for REITs

[30:06] AIMCO $AIV - what is it and why so interesting to Bill

[36:26] What is Bill seeing that the market is missing the generates alpha in $AIV

[39:38] $AIV report card / management team

[48:02] Capital allocation / corporate governance

[53:08] Valuation

[57:31] Additional $AIV assets (besides Miami assets

[1:04:15] $AIV final thoughts

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Lionel Hutz, Editor of the Lionel Hutz Newsletter on Substack, joins the podcast today to discuss the JetBlue (NASDAQ: JBLU) / Spirit (NYSE: SAVE) merger DOJ case.

Lionel's JetBlue/Spirit write up: https://lionelhutz.substack.com/p/in-the-spirit-of-competition

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Stream by Alphasense

[1:48] What is so interesting about the JetBlue / Spirit DOJ case

[4:18] JetBlue / Spirit merger saga - background

[11:34] Why is the "Northeast Alliance" relevant

[20:26] DOJ case - "Route Pair Analysis" / "Local Market Pairs

[27:06] Airline market / thoughts on divestitures

[32:44] DOJ argument about relevant markets

[44:03] Hurdles for DOJ to show anti-competitive effects

[47:15] Notion of "Hot Docs" and their relevance to the trial

[54:07] Judge for this case, his background and why this matters

[59:08] Consensus around JetBlue's paying a huge premium for Spirit. Why doesn't JetBlue just walk?

[1:06:34] Department of Transportation joined the DOJ to block the merger - what this means?

[1:14:12] Trial scheduled to start October 16, could there be a settlement between now and then?

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Jeremy Raper, Founder of Raper Capital, is back on Yet Another Value Podcast to share his latest idea: Alto Ingredients, Inc. (NASDAQ: ALTO), a leading producer and distributor of specialty alcohols and essential ingredients. On June 29, 2023, Jeremy published "An Open Letter to the Board of Alto Ingredients, Inc." on his website (link below), where he outlines strategic alternatives for the company.

For more information about Jeremy Raper and Raper Capital, please visit: https://rapercapital.com/

Jeremy's Letter to $ALTO management: https://rapercapital.com/2023/06/29/an-open-letter-to-the-board-of-alto-ingredients-inc/

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Stream by Alphasense

[1:59] Alto Ingredients $ALTO background, overview and why Jeremy is interested

[14:34] Carbon capture and sequestration

[18:41] What Jeremy wants the company to do - outlines strategic alternatives

[24:53] Valuation and why $ALTO should be an acquisition target

[28:51] $ALTO political risk on subsidies

[35:00] $ALTO management risk and alignment

[42:41] Final thoughts on $ALTO

[44:52] Update on $FAR.AX

[49:07] The struggle investing in commodity-focused businesses: looking at coal and oil & gas sectors

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It's time to welcome back Chris DeMuth for his monthly state of the markets. For this June 2024 edition, Chris shares his thoughts on: election and election trades, $LQDA, Russell Rebalance arbitrage, Burford $BUR / Security National $SNFCA, Presidential Debate and implications for investing.

For more information about Rangeley Capital, please visit: http://www.rangeleycapital.com/

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Fundamental Edge

[1:51] What's on Chris' mind for June 2024: election and election trades

[3:24] $LQDA

[12:07] The Russell Rebalance arbitrage

[18:58] Russell Rebalance cont'd: Burford $BUR / Security National $SNFCA

[24:20] Thoughts on Presidential Debate, election and implications for investing

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It's time to welcome back Chris DeMuth for his monthly state of the markets. For this August 2024 edition, Chris shares his thoughts on: election implications, anti-trust cases, Albertsons / Kroger's case, Robinhood credit card, and high-end credit cards launching travel lounges.

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Daloopa

[1:26] Chris' thoughts on markets overall for August 2024: small cap value outperformance, election risk

[3:40] Market start pricing in Trump victory, before Biden dropped out / election risk, implications

[9:51] Overview on Anti-trust cases: Albertsons / Kroger's and Capri / Tapestry

[17:45] Albertsons / Kroger's cont'd

[27:58] Costco

[32:55] Robinhood credit card

[44:06] High-end credit cards launching travel lounges

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Mario Cibelli, Managing Partner at Marathon Partners Equity Management, LLC, joins the podcast for the third time to share his thesis on Xometry, Inc. (NASDAQ: XMTR), the global AI-powered marketplace that connects buyers with suppliers of custom manufacturing services.

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Fundamental Edge

[2:23] What is Xometry and why is it so interesting to Mario Cibelli

[5:42] $XMTR creating marketplace for industrial manufacturing / problem the company is solving

[19:48] Value proposition of the $XMTR network/marketplace

[24:20] Mechanics of the marketplace, customer experience, how it works

[26:26] Cutting out the middleman ($XMTR in this case) risk / are they more like Uber or Angie's List?

[35:05] "Instant Quote" / what can $XMTR evolve into

[41:15] Cyclicality

[46:47] Valuation / headwinds (and addressing them)

[58:01] Short interest and what keeps Mario up at night about $XMTR

[1:08:54] Execution risk

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Artem Fokin, Portfolio Manager at Caro-Kann Capital LLC, returns to the podcast (for the fourth time) to discuss Burford winning the YPF case and the fundamental thesis post-trial.

For more information about Caro-Kann Capital, please visit: http://caro-kann-capital.com/

Artem's first appearance on BUR: https://youtu.be/qBuH8pyc8Y0

Artem's second appearance on BUR: https://youtu.be/OIFGrfx1O88

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Stream by Alphasense

[1:41] Burford won the case - quick overview of the case and how we arrived at this final judgement

[15:15] Enforcement and collection

[28:55] Examples of collection efforts

[33:14] Timing of enforcement and potential settlement payouts

[44:02] Tax implications

[54:22] Why hasn't $BUR management answered the question about whether any of the funds they manage bought YPF?

[1:03:35] $BUR core business

[1:14:04] $BUR asset management business model / recent results / management and employee incentives

[1:28:26] $BUR valuation without YPF included

[1:39:38] ROE on the core business on a per share basis and final thoughts

Today's episode is sponsored by: Stream by Alphasense

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Chris Lee, a MBA student who won the Dorsey Stock Pitch Competition, comes on the podcast to discuss his winning pitch for Delta Apparel (DLA).

Chris's winning pitch: https://dorseystockpitchcompetition.substack.com/p/long-delta-apparel-dla?utm_source=substack&utm_campaign=post_embed&utm_medium=web 

Chapters 

• 0:00 Intro 
• 2:30 Chris's background 
• 4:45 DLA overview 
• 10:20 DLA's valuation 
• 13:40 Returns on capital and competition 
• 17:35 DLA's Fanatics partnership 
• 23:10 The Salt Life Brand 
• 27:30 Is this the right management team for Salt Life? 
• 32:30 End game for Salt Life 
• 34:50 Lack of disclosure worries 
• 41:20 Why is this company public? 
• 43:40 Closing thoughts

Matt Warder, @mfwarder on Twitter/X, is back on the podcast to discuss all things Coal, including: overall thoughts on coal at this point September 2024, vision for coal with AI, met coal, upcoming election, Peabody $BTU 13D, $CEIX $ARCH merger and more!

You can Follow Matt Warder on Twitter/X @mfwarder: https://twitter.com/mfwarder

Matt Warder's first appearance on YAVP: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DF0uGS4swLM

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Tegus

[2:31] Where we are in the overall coal market

[4:38] Coal for AI overview

[12:18] Overall supply/demand for Metallurgical "met" coal

[17:35] How does the election affect coal market

[21:31] Vision for Coal and AI, how does coal morph into an AI play

[30:26] AI arms race and building AI data centers, timeline to building this AI / Coal power play and how should folks think about new coal plants in America

[35:21] Final thoughts on AI and Coal

[38:31] Peabody $BTU 13D

[46:40] Peabody and Consol Energy / Arch Resource merger conference calls; why are management communicating this way

[49:16] Insider ownership in Coal stocks

[55:37] Other levers that could be pulled to unlock value in PRB

[59:38] How to think about met coal stocks right now and their performance

[1:03:21] $BTU corporate action ideas

[1:05:45] Comments on $CEIX $ARCH merger

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Marc Rubinstein, Founder and Editor of the Net Interest Newsletter (link to substack below), is back on the podcast to discuss his article titled, "The Trump Trade" and deep dive on Fannie Mae $FNMA.

For more information about Marc Rubinstein, please visit: https://www.netinterest.co/

Article on Trump Trade: https://www.netinterest.co/p/the-trump-trade

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Daloopa

[1:40] Background and history of $FNMA

[17:07] Turning point in 2012 (background cont'd.)

[20:19] $FNMA privatization argument from last 10 years

[29:54] "The Trump Trade" and $FNMA

[42:03] Why didn't Trump privatize in first term / if Trump wins 2nd term, what happens if he's going to pursue a privatization plan? / what is the most likely scenario

[53:50] Final thoughts

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Asif Suria, Author of "The Event-Driven Edge in Investing: Six Special Situation Strategies to Outperform the Market", joins the podcast to discuss the six special situation strategies he outlines in his book to outperform the market. You can buy your copy of Asif's new book, "The Event-Driven Edge in Investing: Six Special Situation Strategies to Outperform the Market" here: https://www.amazon.com/Event-Driven-Edge-Investing-Strategies-Outperform-ebook/dp/B0CN3PF1SW?_encoding=UTF8&dib_tag=se&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.1zuikMLb5MN1aQVWodj1ww.Nui4P_rilsWES5p1FNmoTnd5v0myqxSeQautyazGgno&qid=1715709920&sr=8-1&linkCode=sl1&tag=andrew613880e-20&linkId=376c305fd243b22988ebba35edf5ecee&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl Chapters: [0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: YCharts [1:42] Overview of Asif's book, "The Event-Driven Edge in Investing: Six Special Situation Strategies to Outperform the Market" [3:33] Merger Arbitrages + examples [16:44] Insider Buying + examples [29:23] Buybacks + examples [36:45] Spinoffs + examples [46:18] Management changes + examples [55:32] SPACs + final thoughts This episode is sponsored by our friends at YCharts This episode is sponsored by our friends at YCharts. Every four years, the uncertainty surrounding the next president and their policies sparks concern among investors. And with 2024 shaping up to be a rematch of the last two presidents, this uncertainty is at an all-time high. So what’s your plan to ensure your clients stay informed—and equally important, invested? Enter YCharts’ latest Election Guide—an essential resource designed to arm you with the insights needed to successfully guide clients through election season and tackle commonly asked questions head-on, speaking to themes about: Market performance across various presidencies, The viability of investments based on political affiliations, Market reactions to Trump’s election vs. Biden’s election. Grab your copy with the link in the show notes to unlock exclusive access to downloadable charts and visuals that will elevate your client communication and boost your clients’ confidence in you as their advisor. Promotional Link: https://go.ycharts.com/how-do-presidential-elections-impact-the-market-guide?utm_source=partner&utm_medium=link&utm_campaign=election_guide&utm_id=yet+another+value

It's time to welcome back Chris DeMuth for his monthly state of the markets. For this August 2023 edition, Chris provides his take on the FTC in general, Horizon/Amgen case, deep dive into CVRs and, of course, the Microsoft / Activision deal.

For more information about Rangeley Capital, please visit: http://www.rangeleycapital.com/

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Stream by Alphasense

[1:43] What's been going on - August 2023; starting with FTC in general

[7:12] State of the FTC, Anti-trust

[11:16] Horizon/Amgen case

[17:30] Deep dive into CVRs

[29:42] Can CVRs present a little risk adjusted alpha?

[35:29] Microsoft / Activision deal

Today's episode is sponsored by: Stream by Alphasense

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Ross Levin, Director of Research at Arbiter Partners, joins the podcast for the second time to discuss betting on French compounding legend, Vincent Bolloré: Bolloré SE and Compagnie de l'Odet.

For more information about Arbiter Partners, please visit: ⁠https://arbiterpartners.net/

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Tegus

[2:36] What are Bolloré SE and Compagnie de l'Odet and why are they interesting to Ross

[12:18] Asset value / share count

[16:46] Why (in Ross' opinion) is this an alpha opportunity and why now

[23:03] Betting on compounding legend, Vincent Bolloré

[27:40] Risk of getting "Icahn'd"

[32:20] Share re-purchases / capital allocation

[39:31] French regulatory risk

[41:41] What's the path for l'Odet

[45:42] Vivendi

[50:38] Anything else that investors should be looking out for here? Follow on re: capital allocation scenarios

[54:57] Ross' quick thoughts on CCIs and France overall

Episode sponsor: Tegus

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Devin LaSarre, Founder and Editor of the Invariant Newsletter on Substack, joins the podcast to discuss his write-up and thesis on Haypp Group (HAYPP.ST).

Quick description on Haypp Group (according to their website): The Haypp Group is spearheading the global transformation from smoking to healthier product alternatives. With origins in Scandinavia our extensive experience from pioneering markets in smoke free alternatives, as well as being a leader in the e-commerce sector, we now fully take our vision to a global scale. With eleven e-commerce brands, the Haypp group is present in seven countries where we served more than 950 000 active customers in 2023.

Haypp Group write-up: https://invariant.substack.com/p/haypp-group-nicotine-pouch-trend

For more information and to subscribe to Devin LaSarre's newsletter, Invariant, please visit: https://invariant.substack.com/

You can Follow Devin LaSarre on Twitter/X @DevinLaSarre: https://twitter.com/DevinLaSarre

Chapters: [0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Santangel's Review

[1:36] What is the Haypp Group and why it's interesting to Devin and overview of the smoking alternatives industry

[6:52] Demand for nicotine and oral products (pouches, snus, dips)

[13:44] Haypp Group - investing thesis, why attractive idea to Devin

[17:44] What is differentiated about Haypp Group; why is this not the most competitive, lowest margin business

[23:21] What's a "Zyn-fluencer" and marketing challenges

[26:24] Customer acquisition costs / focus on SEO

[33:06] Haypp Group's pricing and cost structure

[41:01] Alternative smoking product consumer trends, switching up brands

[48:30] Addressing risk factors / Haypp's moat

[57:07] Insights business

[59:47] Regulation risk with selling alternative smoking products online

[1:07:23] Valuation

[1:12:32] Where alpha potentially comes from since Haypp stock's double in last 6 months

[1:18:06] Low capex

[1:21:30] Switching costs from cigarettes to alternative smoking products

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John Maxfield, Editor of the Maxfield on Banks Newsletter on Substack, has spent nearly two decades studying America's best and worst banks, the history of banking, and interviewing bank leaders. John joins the Yet Another Value Podcast today to answer your burning questions regarding investing banks, his mindset during this "crisis" and how to think about investing in banks moving forward.

For more information and to subscribe to John's new substack, please visit: https://maxfieldonbanks.substack.com/

Show notes:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Stream by Alphasense

[1:43] John Maxfield's background and how he got into investing in banks

[4:52] Overall thoughts investing in banks right now in a post-SIVB, UBS buying Credit Suisse world

[8:43] Blood in the streets in banks vs. other markets[12:45] Why are customers with $10-100M running uninsured deposits in First Republic?

[13:55] Regional banks

[21:13] How should folks be weighing the risks with regard to investing in banks?

[26:54] Catalysts that caused the 1873 crisis; what can we learn from that crisis

[29:06] The "everyone needs to chill" model when thinking about run on the banks

[33:20] Bank metrics - how KPIs investors care about have changed/evolved

[35:25] Franchise risk for banks

[38:48] Does what is happening now have an impact on the community banks?

[47:11] Bank stocks that look interesting to John Maxfield in a Post-SIVB world

[57:47] How do you make $$ as a bank investor buying a bank for 4x book value?

[59:47] Generalist interest in banks: what should folks put more weight on when evaluating various investing opportunities (HINT: how did they perform during the 2008 financial crisis)

[1:04:38] How important is speaking with management from bank stocks?

[1:06:41] Closing thoughts Today's episode is sponsored by: Stream by Alphasense Are traditional expert calls in the investment world becoming obsolete? According to Stream, they are, and you can access primary research easily and efficiently through their platform. With Stream, you'll have the right insights at your fingertips to make the best investment decisions. They offer a vast library of over 26,000 expert transcripts, powered by AI search technology. Plus, they provide competitive rates on expert call services, and you can even have an experienced buy-side analyst conduct the calls for you. But that's not all. Stream also provides the ability to engage with experts 1-on-1 and get your calls transcribed free-of-charge—all for 40% less than you would pay for 20 calls in a traditional expert network model. So, if you're looking to optimize your research process and increase ROI on investment research spend, Stream has the solution for you. Head over to their website at streamrg.com to learn more. Thanks for listening, and we'll catch you next time. For more information: https://www.streamrg.com/

Jim Royal, Author of "Zen of Thrift Conversions", joins the podcast to provide the basics of "Thrift Conversions", what that means, as well as examples that help illuminate them.

Jim's book, "Zen of Thrift Conversions", available on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Zen-Thrift-Conversions-Hidden-Stocks/dp/B08KH3THCR?crid=1RO9I0CVP07JD&keywords=the+zen+of+thrift+conversions&qid=1704737642&sprefix=zen+of+thrift,aps,161&sr=8-1&linkCode=sl1&tag=andrew613880e-20&linkId=aa5821380d1063911549c0014b02427a&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Fundamental Edge

[1:49] The basics of "Thrift Conversions"

[8:51] Safety

[11:25] Management incentives

[15:46] How can investors participate in IPO of thrift conversions

[19:58] Needham

[23:50] Thrift Conversions in current banking environment

[27:26] Return on equities and repurchases

[35:39] Characteristics of poor de-mutualizations and thrift conversions

[39:14] Investor Activism

[45:08] Why thrift conversions sell during a given time frame and why some don't

[47:36] Worthwhile for investors to look at second step conversions (because so complicated)?

[51:00] Lightening round: why more mutuals in the Northeast than elsewhere? How much does geography matter?

[53:59] Three (3) interesting de-mutualizations to look at, according to Jim Royal

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Chadd Garcia, Portfolio Manager and Senior Research Analyst at Schwartz Investment Counsel Inc. - Ave Maria Focused Fund, joins the podcast for his second appearance to share his thesis on eDreams ODIEGO (MSE - Madrid Stock Exchange: EDR), travel subscription platform and one of the largest e-commerce businesses in Europe.

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Stream by Alphasense

[1:43] Overview of eDreams ODIGEO $EDR.MC

[9:27] eDreams' overall vision and current valuation

[13:34] Prime model and its potential growth in European markets

[17:30] How eDreams is different from TripAdvisor / why eDreams the one to crack the membership model

[23:13] Costco comparison

[25:24] Churn rate / U.S. investor perspective on eDreams / changing disclosures

[34:07] Competitive landscape, in particular, response from Booking as eDreams grows

[38:45] Hotels initiative / breaking into the U.S. market

[43:13] Capital allocation strategy

[47:20] Final thoughts on eDreams: risks to consider / headwinds / Chadd's personal experience using eDreams platform

Today's episode is sponsored by: Stream by Alphasense

Are traditional expert calls in the investment world becoming obsolete? According to Stream, they are, and you can access primary research easily and efficiently through their platform. With Stream, you'll have the right insights at your fingertips to make the best investment decisions. They offer a vast library of over 26,000 expert transcripts, powered by AI search technology. Plus, they provide competitive rates on expert call services, and you can even have an experienced buy-side analyst conduct the calls for you.

But that's not all. Stream also provides the ability to engage with experts 1-on-1 and get your calls transcribed free-of-charge—all for 40% less than you would pay for 20 calls in a traditional expert network model. So, if you're looking to optimize your research process and increase ROI on investment research spend, Stream has the solution for you. Head over to their website at streamrg.com to learn more. Thanks for listening, and we'll catch you next time. For more information: https://www.streamrg.com/

Alex Feng and Jason Quan from Rome Capital Limited join the podcast to discuss their thesis on Samsonite International (1910.HK), a leader in the global lifestyle bag industry and the world's best-known and largest travel luggage company.

Alex Feng's write-up on Samsonite: https://alexfeng.substack.com/p/samsonite-1910-hk-another-homecoming

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Ycharts

[1:51] Alex Feng, Jason Quan and Rome Capital's backgrounds

[3:15] Overview of Samsonite and why it's interesting to Alex and Jason

[6:00] What is the average market participant missing with Samsonite

[9:25] Why is Samsonite valuation a "cheap" multiple (in Rome Capital's opinion); why Samsonite a "A" business and not a "C" business; pricing power / consumer awareness

[17:02] How important is Samsonite's warranty on their products / supply chain

[21:18] Samsonite's dual listing plan / does Alex and Jason think that simply re-listing to the US can re-rate the shares

[29:00] Instead of dual-listing, why not focus on buybacks

[33:40] What happened to the private equity bid; history with CBC back in 2007

[36:13] Wholesale partners, is that one of their competitive advantages / how much does advertising really drive demand and consumption

[39:47] Barriers to entry - what is the risk here with new luggage brands entering the market

[45:49] Final thoughts on Samsonite

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Welcome to the latest edition of Yet Another Value Podcast's Book Club. Once a month, Andrew and co-host, Byrne Hobart, will discuss their thoughts on the book, "Advanced Portfolio Management: A Quant's Guide for Fundamental Investors" by Giuseppe A. Paleologo.

See Byrne's writing at: https://www.thediff.co/

"Advanced Portfolio Management: A Quant's Guide for Fundamental Investors" on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Advanced-Portfolio-Management-Fundamental-Investors/dp/1119789796

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Fintool

[2:24] First thoughts and overall impressions of "Advanced Portfolio Management"

[5:54] Which pieces do you use to implement into your investing process that Byrne picked up from this book / how they implement "stop-losses"

[19:00] It's not enough to have great ideas / "it only takes one" vs. concentrated portfolio / making good calls over time

[29:17] Is there anything to buying things that are classified wrong in order to generate alpha?

[32:54] How much are these factor and pod-shop models gameable

[40:23] How much does Byrne think matching uncorrelated data is going to be taken over by AI vs. fundamental investors going forward

[48:25] Beating the bots / final thoughts

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Chris Waller, Founder and CIO at Plural Investing, joins the podcast to discuss his thesis on TerraVest Industries Inc. (TSX: TVK), a manufacturer of home heating products, propane, anhydrous ammonia (“NH3”) and natural gas liquids (“NGL”) transport vehicles and storage vessels, energy processing equipment and fiberglass storage tanks.

For more information about Plural Invest, please visit: https://www.pluralinvesting.com/

Plural Investing write up on TerraVest $TVK.TO: https://static1.squarespace.com/static/57eff176e58c621a298bfa61/t/65c1736ea99cbe30a72634d1/1707176815309/Plural+Investing+Report+on+Terravest+%282024.01.24%29.pdf

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Tegus

[1:54] What is TerraVest and why are they so interesting to Chris

[4:51] Why is TerraVest underfollowed?

[6:47] Why can their acquire at a discount and $TVK.TO's business model, overview, value proposition

[14:21] Propane tank industry / location moat

[19:44] How TerraVest pulls off the reduction in steel costs

[22:27] Why hasn't Private Equity stepped in to roll up the propane tank industry?

[25:48] How does TerraVest get labor cost down?

[29:35] Tanker and Boiler businesses / recent Highland Tanks acquisition

[35:13] Terminal value questions

[40:49] Management, insider ownership and incentives

[44:50] Valuation / Organic growth / How much accretive acquisitions to drive real performance here

[51:29] Cyclicality[54:27] Capital allocation

[57:40] $TVK.TO bear case

[1:00:46] Final thoughts

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Lionel Hutz, Editor of the Valorem Research Newsletter on Substack, joins the podcast today to provide his Spirit / JetBlue post-trial breakdown.

For more information about Valorem Research and to subscribe, please visit: https://www.valoremresearch.com/ Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Alphasense

[1:44] General takeaways from Spirit / JetBlue post-trial and post-trial briefs

[7:56] DOJ's case, what citing of Philadelphia National and Baker Hughes cases as precedents means

[13:17] Harm to local markets - thoughts on this framework as it applies to the bear case

[16:04] JetBlue's "having it both ways" arguments and where Lionel thinks JetBlue scored points with their arguments

[23:21] 51 presumptive markets and how they are relevant to this case + the government's skepticism of divestitures

[33:20] How JetBlue and the government handled the expert witness, what deficiencies that JetBlue finds with the government witnesses

[39:39] Government's points regarding the hot docs

[42:40] How precedent being used to support both sides of the case

[50:03] Evidence supporting JetBlue's position and evidence supporting DOJ's position

[57:26] The fourth bear case on relevant markets

[1:03:35] Timing on ruling

[1:12:33] Legacy of the outcome for this case

Today's episode is sponsored by: Alphasense

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Austin Crites, CIO at Aurora Financial Strategies, joins the podcast to discuss his thesis on The Lovesac Company (NASDAQ: LOVE), the home furnishing and technology brand best known for its Sacs, The World's Most Comfortable Seat.

For more information about Aurora Financial Strategies, please visit: https://www.aurorafinancialstrategies.com/

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Tegus

[1:35] Overview of Lovesac $LOVE and why are they so interesting to Austin

[5:44] Bear case: One product company + cheap knockoffs

[12:02] Repeat business / Crocs comparison / Reddit and TikTok Lovesac / Target customers

[21:27] Shark Ninja comparison

[26:09] Valuation / Competitive analysis (La-Z-Boy, Restoration Hardware)

[31:07] Inventory turns

[34:56] Short interest

[38:48] Management and insider ownership

[41:27] Barter revenues

[43:43] $LOVE final thoughts

Today's episode is sponsored by: Tegus

This episode is brought to you by Tegus, the future of investment research.

From the beginning, Tegus has been committed to creating efficiencies in the research process by making it easy to access the content that investors need to get to differentiated insights.

Today, they’re taking it one step further by bundling qualitative content, quantitative data, and better automation and technology together in the same platform. Instead of piecing together data from fragmented sources, just log in to Tegus to get expert research, company- and industry-specific metrics and KPIs, SEC filings, and more, all under the same license cost.

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Mario Cibelli, Managing Partner at Marathon Partners Equity Management, LLC, joins the podcast for the fourth time to share his thesis on Remitly Global, Inc. (NASDAQ: RELY), a trusted provider of digital financial services that transcend borders.

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Tegus

[1:58] What is Remitly Global $RELY and why are they so interesting to Mario

[3:22] What is Mario seeing in $RELY that the market is missing that makes this an alpha opportunity (in Mario's opinion)

[8:08] $RELY service use case / question of fees to transfer money / bear case / crypto

[17:25] How does their customer base trust them / why is it so complex to do digital disbursement the right way?

[27:32] Digital fraud / business environment

[35:34] Bear case cont'd. / valuation

[44:48] Thoughts on Wise

[51:13] Marketing expenses

[58:56] Valuation cont'd

[1:02:33] What keeps Mario up on at night on $RELY thesis

[1:08:10] Final thoughts / additional key points investors should be aware of about $RELY, i.e., direct connections

[1:16:34] Stable coins/crypto - why not a risk? Why Mario thinks it's an accelerant?

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Artem Fokin, Portfolio Manager at Caro-Kann Capital LLC, returns to the podcast (for the third time) to update his thesis on Burfurd (BUR) on the heels of their big YPF summary judgement ruling against Argentina.

For more information about Caro-Kann Capital, please visit: http://caro-kann-capital.com/

Artem's first appearance on BUR: https://youtu.be/qBuH8pyc8Y0

Muddy Waters BUR case: https://www.muddywatersresearch.com/research/bur/mw-is-short/

Artem's response: http://caro-kann-capital.com/pdf/2019_09_09_Burford_Muddy_Waters_Dreams_of_Black_Cat_That_Just_Is_Not_There_by_Caro-Kann_Capital.pdf Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Stream by Alphasense

[2:33] Initial thoughts on Burford on the heels of the YPF summary judgement ruling

[6:30] How winning this case validates the Burford business

[9:03] Why is Burford saying this is such a complete win against Argentina?

[16:25] Cont'd on why is Burford saying this is such a complete win against Argentina?

[21:26] Understanding the mechanics of the waterfall payments

[30:37] Largest risks to Burford now; odds Argentina wins on appeal?

[33:39] Clarifying the mechanics of an appeal

[36:48] Estimated proceeds the Burford can actually collect

[44:59] What kind of cash flow is going to come into the company?

[55:13] Burford's asset recovery business

[59:04] Argentina's options if they want to stay in the international business community

[1:01:28] Capital allocation plans Burford could do

[1:06:42] Monetizing stakes

[1:17:31] Thoughts on this SEC fair value discussion they're having

[1:22:32] Quick update on Burford's business Today's episode is sponsored by: Stream by Alphasense Are traditional expert calls in the investment world becoming obsolete? According to Stream, they are, and you can access primary research easily and efficiently through their platform. With Stream, you'll have the right insights at your fingertips to make the best investment decisions. They offer a vast library of over 26,000 expert transcripts, powered by AI search technology. Plus, they provide competitive rates on expert call services, and you can even have an experienced buy-side analyst conduct the calls for you. But that's not all. Stream also provides the ability to engage with experts 1-on-1 and get your calls transcribed free-of-charge—all for 40% less than you would pay for 20 calls in a traditional expert network model. So, if you're looking to optimize your research process and increase ROI on investment research spend, Stream has the solution for you. Head over to their website at streamrg.com to learn more. Thanks for listening, and we'll catch you next time. For more information: https://www.streamrg.com/

Lionel Hutz, Editor of the Valorem Research Newsletter on Substack, joins the podcast today to discuss the Liquidia vs. UTHR hearing at the Federal Circuit that took place on Monday, December 4, 2023.

Lionel's LQDA write up: https://www.valoremresearch.com/p/lqda-v-uthr-premium-update

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Alphasense

[1:35] What was the $LQDA hearing recently on Monday, December 4, 2023, and Lionel's initial thoughts on the hearing

[6:16] Arguments UTHR was drilling down on

[10:14] How Lionel thinks of the quality of UTHR's arguments

[13:56] Judge performance and thoughts on their performance during the hearing

[27:00] Question from Judge for LQDA about dissemination of abstracts / would we have this problem of dissemination if that conference was in 2023 vs 2004

[37:26] Next steps post-hearing: reversal or remanding, if remanding (sending back to the PTAB court) - what is the most likely issue, if reversal - what is the most likely reason

[49:02] Odds on outcome of the $LQDA hearing

Today's episode is sponsored by: Alphasense

This episode is brought to you by AlphaSense, the AI platform behind the world's biggest investment decisions. The right financial intelligence platform can make or break your quarter. AlphaSense is the #1 rated financial research solution by G2. With AI search technology and a library of premium content, you can stay ahead of key macroeconomic trends and accelerate your investment research efforts. AI capabilities, like Smart Synonyms and Sentiment Analysis, provide even deeper industry and company analysis. AlphaSense gives you the tools you need to provide better analysis for you and your clients. As a Yet Another Value Podcast listener, visit alpha-sense.com/fs today to beat FOMO and move faster than the market.

Brian Albrecht, Chief Economist of the International Center for Law & Economics (ICLE), joins the podcast today to discuss ICLE's paper on the $24.6 billion Kroger-Albertsons transaction.

ICLE Paper on Kroger / Albertson's merger: https://laweconcenter.org/icle-on-kroger-albertsons/

White paper: https://laweconcenter.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/Kroger-Albertsons-Merger-Full-Paper.pdf

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Alphasense

[1:32] Overview of ICLE (International Center for Law & Economics) and Brian's background

[3:12] Kroger / Albertson's merger - how Brian is thinking about this potential merger

[6:55] FTC's analytical framework

[10:58] Why government hasn't brought more suits in grocery industry

[14:34] Should precedent be updated?

[24:05] Why shouldn't market shares matter?

[28:30] How have delivery services changed the market index & wrap-up on wholesale clubs, competition

[33:05] Divestitures

[39:26] Specific divestiture package - Haggen's example

[46:20] Waterbed effect - why this is or isn't an antitrust concern

[51:44] Regional power vs. local power with retail workers

[59:01] Final thoughts

Today's episode is sponsored by: Alphasense

This episode is brought to you by AlphaSense, the AI platform behind the world's biggest investment decisions. The right financial intelligence platform can make or break your quarter. AlphaSense is the #1 rated financial research solution by G2. With AI search technology and a library of premium content, you can stay ahead of key macroeconomic trends and accelerate your investment research efforts. AI capabilities, like Smart Synonyms and Sentiment Analysis, provide even deeper industry and company analysis. AlphaSense gives you the tools you need to provide better analysis for you and your clients. As a Yet Another Value Podcast listener, visit alpha-sense.com/fs today to beat FOMO and move faster than the market.

Our podcast sponsor, Stream by Alphasense, connected us with Daniel Payne, Senior Fellow at the International Congress of Blockchain Legal Advisors, to discuss the stakes at play in the SEC vs. Coinbase $COIN case. International Congress of Blockchain Legal Advisors Website: https://icbla.legal/

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Stream by Alphasense

[1:08] Daniel Payne quick background

[4:23] SEC vs. Coinbase $COIN - high level overview of the case

[8:45] What are the stakes the SEC is playing for here?

[11:11] $COIN response to the SEC

[18:09] $COIN on the regulatory uncertainty

[22:57] Ripple decision and how this impacts the $COIN case

[29:51] Congress working towards legislation of crypto and how that affects $COIN case

[32:57] $COIN's S-1 Defense

[36:43] Two allegations the SEC is leveling against $COIN

[39:55] Staking program and what the SEC is alleging about this program

[47:15] Likelihood of certain tokens becoming securities

[49:08] $COIN lingering liabilities from operating a commodities exchange without proper regulation?

[50:44] SEC argument on $COIN's internal Howey Test for allowing various tokens to trade on their platform

[53:04] SEC vs. $COIN case timing and final thoughts

Today's episode is sponsored by: Stream by Alphasense

Are traditional expert calls in the investment world becoming obsolete? According to Stream, they are, and you can access primary research easily and efficiently through their platform. With Stream, you'll have the right insights at your fingertips to make the best investment decisions. They offer a vast library of over 26,000 expert transcripts, powered by AI search technology. Plus, they provide competitive rates on expert call services, and you can even have an experienced buy-side analyst conduct the calls for you.

But that's not all. Stream also provides the ability to engage with experts 1-on-1 and get your calls transcribed free-of-charge—all for 40% less than you would pay for 20 calls in a traditional expert network model. So, if you're looking to optimize your research process and increase ROI on investment research spend, Stream has the solution for you. Head over to their website at streamrg.com to learn more. Thanks for listening, and we'll catch you next time. For more information: https://www.streamrg.com/

In this bonus episode, Andrew and Byrne Hobart from The Diff discuss the 2008 book More Than a Numbers Game See Byrne's writing at: https://www.thediff.co/ More Than a Numbers Game on amazon: https://amzn.to/4ajREfe

See our legal disclaimer here: https://www.yetanothervalueblog.com/p/legal-and-disclaimer

Jake Barfield, Founder & Portfolio Manager at Asheville Capital Management, joins the podcast to share his thesis on InPost Group, Europe’s leading e-commerce logistics enabler.

Jake Barfield's write-up on InPost: https://jakebarfield.substack.com/p/inpost-inpst-investment-thesis

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Fintool

[2:23] What is InPost and why are they interesting to Jake

[4:24] What Jake is seeing with InPost that the market is missing

[5:46] Push back on Jake's thesis + European parcel delivery differences to US

[14:48] Relationship with Allegro

[20:27] Why aren't landlords sticking it to InPost

[23:55] Competitive analysis

[34:32] Market penetration; Polish market and how they are trying to gain market share in UK and France

[45:06] Valuation

[55:26] Call options and gamification of customer experience

[1:00:56] Advent involvement; how does Jake think about empire building risk

[1:05:45] What would have to happen for InPost thesis to not work and final thoughts

Today's sponsor: Fintool

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Now- if you’ve tried to do any of this in ChatGPT you may know that the answers are often wrong or hallucinations. The way Fintool is able to outperform ChatGPT is their focus on the SEC filings. If you’re an analyst or a portfolio manager at a hedge fund, **check them out at https://fintool.com/**.

It's time to welcome back Chris DeMuth for his monthly state of the markets. For this May 2024 edition, Chris shares his thoughts on: Tapestry / Capri merger, Enhabit $EHAB, ECIP banks, $INBX deal.

For more information about Rangeley Capital, please visit: http://www.rangeleycapital.com/

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Santangel's Review

[2:05] What's on Chris' mind as we head into the summer: M&A, Capri / Tapestry merger

[14:33] Enhabit $EHAB

[24:29] ECIP Banks

[35:44] $INBX deal

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Conor Maguire, Founder and Editor of the Value Situations Newsletter, joins the podcast for his third appearance to share his thesis on Dowlais Group Plc (DWL), a portfolio of market leading, high-technology engineering businesses that advance the world's transition to sustainable vehicles.

For more information about Conor Maguire and Value Situations Substack: https://valuesits.substack.com/

DWL write up on Value Situations Newsletter: https://valuesits.substack.com/p/dowlais-spinning-wheels

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Tegus

[2:15] What is Dowlais Group Plc (DWL) and why are they interesting to Conor

[9:18] What is Conor seeing about Dowlais that the market is missing

[16:42] Dowlais recent history

[21:45] Trends in the auto industry

[27:43] Bidding war time from 2018

[32:29] Margin expansion

[38:03] Management and incentive structure

[49:08] Capital allocation scenarios

[53:25] Who's the buyer of Powdermet

[58:50] Cyclicality of Powdermet business?

[1:02:16] Final thoughts on Dowlais / one more question about goodwill on the balance sheet

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Marc Chalfin, CIO, Founder & Portfolio Manager, and Jay Upadhyay, Senior Research Analyst, at Windward Management LP, join the podcast to share their thesis on Groupon (NASDAQ: GRPN).

For more information about Windward Management LP, please visit:https://www.windwardmg.com/

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Daloopa

[1:16] What is Groupon $GRPN and why is it so interesting right now to Marc and Jay

[3:24] $GRPN overhaul, why now is interesting and Windward's thesis

[11:49] $GRPN set up

[18:26] What is Marc and Jay seeing with $GRPN that the market is missing

[24:33] Inventory and Technology

[31:48] SumUp / BaseRate

[37:37] Final thoughts: web traffic, understanding the tailwinds

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Derek Pilecki, CFA, Managing Member and Portfolio Manager at Gator Capital Management, joins the podcast to have a general conversation about the Financial Sector: banks, crypto and more!

For more information about Gator Capital Management, please visit: https://gatorcapital.com/

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Tegus

[1:49] What's most interesting to Derek in Financials sector today / $NYCB / Valley and Western Alliance

[12:28] Western Alliance

[19:43] Capital One and thoughts on Discover merger

[28:36] Overall regulatory environment with banks and financials

[30:51] Election and how that affects banks

[33:26] Robinhood

[41:47] Fannie's and Freddie's

[47:50] $NYCB cont'd.

[50:32] Thoughts on buybacks based on conversations with bank CEO's

[1:01:18] Why Derek thinks banks are below average businesses

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John Huber, Founder and Portfolio Manager at Saber Capital Management, joins the podcast today to describe the concept "Inevitable Retail Winners", characteristics of inevitability, as well as talking through many different examples that exemplify this concept. In addition, John shares his thesis on Floor & Decor (NYSE: FND).

For more information about Saber Capital Management, please visit: https://sabercapitalmgt.com/home/

Article from Base Hit Investing: https://basehitinvesting.substack.com/p/munger-podcast-thoughts-retail-stocks

YAV blog post on retail: https://www.yetanothervalueblog.com/p/cyber-monday-thoughts-part-1-retail

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Alphasense

[1:55] What is an "inevitable retail winner" and Charlie Munger's thoughts on this

[10:19] Restaurants

[12:34] Various retail companies mentioned, are they "inevitable retail winners"; characteristics of "inevitability" - using AutoZone as an example as well

[22:09] Retail management and culture

[27:33] Floor & Decor $FND: what is their moat? / customer experience / why inventory is a moat

[38:55] Pro vs. DIY customer spend / comment on ROIC on new stores / does $FND want to own their own stores

[45:14] Macro impact on $FND?

[51:14] $FND valuation

[58:20] $FND described as a "category killer"

[1:00:21] $FND risks

[1:03:36] Any difference in $FND pre vs. post IPO + mistakes management made in the past

[1:07:16] Push back on $FND thesis: recent acquisitions and "category killer"

[1:11:32] Any other retails that John thinks has a chance to be inevitable or he thinks that a lot of investors talk about in this "inevitable" way

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The "Koala", a buyside mining and commodity specialist, comes on to discuss the commodity and mining space in general and Ivanhoe Electric (IE) in particular.  

The Koala's twitter account: https://twitter.com/YellowLabLife 

Chapters 

• 0:00 Intro 
• 2:55 General mining / commodity sector overview 
• 12:40 The "nothing can get built anymore" moat 
• 18:40 Capital discipline imposed by low multiples 
• 22:00 How Peabody talked their own stock down with growth plans 
• 31:00 What is the market missing on coal? 
• 44:00 Why is Whitehaven still the Koala's coal horse? 
• 49:30 Discussing Ivanhoe Mines history 
• 56:55 Ivanhoe Electrics background 
• 1:00:45 Ivanhoe's Typhoon Technology 
• 1:04:30 Discussing Ivanhoe's mines 
• 1:12:00 How did Ivanhoe find these great mines in the U.S.? 
• 1:15:00 Ivanhoe's cash runway

Ron Nussbaum from Maverick Value, joins the podcast to discuss the Capri Holdings Limited / Tapestry ($CPRI / $TPR) acquisition agreement.

You can follow Ron Nussbaum @MaverickValue on Twitter/X here: https://x.com/MaverickValue

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Ycharts

[2:05] Overview of Capri / Tapestry acquisition and why FTC suing to block the combination

[6:01] Capri fundamental value even if deal doesn't go through

[11:46] FTC's case

[20:06] FTC's raised pricing issue

[25:15] Tapestry's response and defining the market / employee side of the antitrust argument

[33:01] Why were all five Commissioners (3 dems, 2 repubs) voting to sue (and not voting on party lines)

[36:00] Industry uniqueness

[40:09] Thoughts on the case's judge

[44:14] Industry commentary

[46:32] Recut

[48:07] Room for settlement possible?

[49:02] Deal breaks tomorrow, whats the possible downside / market odds for both deal going through and downside (not going through)

[55:39] Biggest discrepancy between Ron's view on the case and the market's view on the case

[58:31] HotDocs

[1:01:15] Final thoughts / timeline on the case

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Nitin Sacheti, Founder and Portfolio Manager at Papyrus Capital, is back to update his INNOVATE (NYSE: VATE) thesis. In his first appearance on the podcast, Nitin went into detail on all segments of the INNOVATE business, a highly levered holding company with three operating segments in: Infrastructure, Life Sciences and Spectrum. The stock has been volatile of late, and as Nitin notes in the beginning of the interview, "because there's a lot in here, there's some businesses that have done better than I had originally thought they would do when we first discussed it 20 months ago." Tune in to learn more. Link to Nitin's first appearance on YAVP talking $VATE: https://youtu.be/eVJMeJFNXIY

For more information on Papyrus Capital and Nitin Sacheti, please visit: https://papyruscapital.com/

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Stream by Alphasense

[1:38] Update on INNOVATE $VATE since Nitin's first appearance on Yet Another Value Podcast (link here: https://youtu.be/eVJMeJFNXIY)

[7:21] Controlling shareholder, Avi Glazer from Lancer Capital, and how that affects $VATE

[16:41] What is going to change the $VATE story? What's tracking better than Nitin's thesis on $VATE?

[23:32] Update on the DBM segment

[27:24] Other $VATE segments that have worked better than Nitin thought they were going to play out; closer look at R2 segment and Meta Beacon segment update

[36:08] What makes the Meta Beacon platform valuable?

[40:18] Update on the Spectrum segment and how Nitin thinks about it's value

[51:22] What does Nitin think is the most likely piece for $VATE to realize value?

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Alex Morris, Founder of TSOH Investment Research, returns to Yet Another Value Podcast for the third time to chat with Andrew about the Media and Cable sectors in 2023. The Media and Cable sectors move at a mile a minute and it was time to have Alex back on to sift through all the noise. This conversation covers everything from: how mobile carriers think about fixed wireless, Charter vs. Cable One & T-Mobile, does Disney have an IP problem, and much more.

For more information about Alex Morris and subscribe to his research service, TSOH Investment Research Service, please visit: https://thescienceofhitting.com/

You can Follow Alex Morris on Twitter @TSOH_Investing: https://twitter.com/TSOH_Investing

Chapters: [0:00] Introduction + Daloopa

[2:22] Media and Cable space - high level thoughts on 2022/beginning of 2023

[4:30] Rewinding to better understand current media/cable infrastructure and how Alex thinks about fixed wireless

[8:57] How mobile carriers talking about fixed wireless

[12:08] Why Alex has Charter and Comcast in his portfolio?

[14:43] How does Alex think about Comcast being potentially being valued with conglomerate discount?

[19:05] Charter vs. Cable One and Charter vs. T-Mobile

[23:11] A bit more on T-Mobile

[27:54] Why Alex thinks you can achieve risk-adjusted alpha investing in Charter?

[31:53] Understanding Charter's CAPEX story

[33:45] Cable assets, Fiber assets + M&A

[37:09] Final thoughts on Cable/Fiber conversation

[40:06] What Alex is seeing in the Media business that is so attractive

[43:53] Does Disney have an IP problem?

[48:28] Taking a look at the state of Netflix - do they need a merger partner or to buy something?

[51:37] Making the case that Netflix is a risk-adjusted alpha generator

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Dave Johnson, Managing Partner at Caligan Partners, makes his second appearance to discuss his thesis on MorphoSys AG (FSE: MOR; NASDAQ: MOR), including: history of the company, change in business strategy from a royalty play to traditional biotech, Pelabresib clinical trials for Myelofibrosis indication and more!

For more information about Dave Johnson and Caligan Partners, please visit: https://www.caliganpartners.com/

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Stream by Alphasense

[1:47] What is MorphoSys $MOR and why is it so interesting?

[9:58] How and why Caligan Partners got involved in $MOR

[19:34] What is Pelabresib and why Dave/Caligan are excited about this with regard to $MOR

[27:27] Clinical trial enrollment for Pelabresib / Constellation Pharmaceuticals acquisition

[33:09] Next steps for Pelabresib

[36:04] Dave's thoughts on the timing of Pelabresib being approved (if approved)

[38:25] Pressure on biotech management teams from boards to get deals done

[40:56] Probability of success of Pelabresib and how do you value $MOR as a result

[47:16] Constellation Pharmaceuticals acquisition process

[50:25] Buying back convertible bonds and why that was an accretive transaction

[52:55] Final thoughts on $MOR

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Bill Chen, a real estate investor, returns to the podcast to discuss HHC's value and why Bill Ackman's current tender for the company might undervalue HHC.  

HHC model: https://t.co/q6lQ69TeXZ 

Chapters 

• 0:00 Intro
• 2:50 HHC overview 
• 7:15 How HHC can create value over time 
• 9:15 Valuing HHC's operating assets 
• 11:35 Opportunity cost versus other publicly traded real estate 
• 17:35 Valuing HHC's unstabilized assets 
• 19:30 Valuing HHC's Hawaiian assets (Ward Village) 
• 29:55 Valuing HHC's "other" assets 
• 31:40 Valuing HHC's MPC 
• 45:20 Valuing HHC's Seaport asset 
• 50:55 Why is HHC always trading under NAV? 
• 54:00 Will non-Ackman shareholders ever realize value from HHC? 
• 56:25 HHC's OXY deal 
• 1:05:35 HHC's most recent MPC deal versus share buybacks 
• 1:13:00 Ackman's long term HHC plan

Patrick Wolff, full-time private investor, joins to have a general discussion a wide range of topics: his background (former US Chess champion in 1992 and 1995), the right to buy stocks, domestic vs. international focus, indexing vs. single stock investing, battleground stocks, advantages investing in MicroCap stocks and closes with his thesis on Transact Technologies $TACT.

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Fundamental Edge

[2:01] Patrick Wolff's background

[7:10] The right to buy stocks

[12:37] Domestic vs. International focus; European markets

[21:04] Indexing vs. single stock investing; tax efficiency; time efficiency

[32:56] Diversification and circle of competence

[37:53] Battleground stocks

[40:19] MicroCap stocks

[47:13] $TACT Transact Technologies thesis

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Artem Fokin, founder of Caro-Kann Capital, discusses the bull case for Kaspi (KSPI). Kaspi is the dominant fintech in Kazakhstan, and Artem breaks down how it's trading for a value price despite rapid growth and how its dominance will allow it to grow into new sectors of the Kazakhstan economy.  

Kaspi IPO case study from HBS: https://www.hbs.edu/faculty/Pages/item.aspx?num=56825 

Chapters 

• 0:00 Intro 
• 2:30 KSPI Overview 
• 8:15 Discussing how ingrained in Kazakhstan Kaspi is 
• 11:20 Sizing and breaking down the payments business 
• 24:45 How Kaspi's data helps them with consumer loans 
• 31:30 Kaspi as a "tax" on the Kazakhstan economy 
• 36:30 Discussing management and Kaspi capital allocation 
• 43:40 Run on the bank risk 48:20 Kazakhstan country / GDP risk 
• 53:00 Why hasn't KSPI succeeded outside of Kazakhstan 
• 1:00:30 How to think about valuing KSPI 
• 1:08:00 Framing KSPI's local currency risk

Daniel Biolsi, Head of Consumer Staples sector at Hedgeye, shares his thoughts on current state of the Consumer Staples sector in 2023.

For more information about Hedgeye, please visit: https://app.hedgeye.com/insights

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Hedgeye

[0:56] State of the Consumer Staples sector

[4:04] $COST and BJ's thesis

[8:24] Why long Albertson's $ACI + thoughts on acquisition proposed by Kroger

[21:14] $KVUE Kenvue thesis

[28:04] Hershey $HSY, international expansion, response to short report and GLP-1 drugs

[38:39] International Flavors & Fragrances $IFF negative sentiment

Today's episode is sponsored by: Hedgeye

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Yaron Naymark, Founder of 1 Main Capital, is back for the third time on the Yet Another Value Podcast to discuss Limbach Holdings (NASDAQ: LMB), a mechanical systems solution engineering company that focuses on HVAC systems. Yaron talks about the evolution of the company since it went public via SPAC in 2016, transitioning towards the owner direct business and away from the older general contractor business, growth through acquisition strategy, equity raise in 2021 and why he finds $LMB interesting.

For more information about Yaron Naymark and 1 Main Capital, please visit: https://www.1maincapital.com/

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Stream by Alphasense

[1:57] What is Limbach Holdings $LMB and why is it interesting

[10:28] Edge in transitioning towards the owner direct business and away from the older general contractor business

[13:58] Growth through acquisition

[20:38] Maintenance contracts

[23:54] Market share for owners of infrastructure and critical infrastructure markets

[25:49] How does macro recession or commercial real estate recession affect $LMB

[30:24] $LMB's retention of employees post-acquisition

[32:26] $LMB Valuation

[37:32] Can $LMB do accretive M&A?

[41:29] Recent insider purchases

[43:25] Equity raise in 2021 - what happened and why did it receive the response that it did?

[54:24] Final thoughts on $LMB: addition to the Russell 2000 and expiring warrants

[55:37] Incorporating AI into investing and research process?

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Avi Fisher from Long Cast Advisors joins the pod to talk about CoreCard (CCRD). Key topics include the risks and opportunities from their Apple Card / GS relationship and the benefits of the CEO’s measured growth approach.  

Chapters: 

• 0:00 Intro 
• 3:30 Avi's framework for evaluating stocks 
• 22:45 How Avi found CCRD 
• 24:35 CCRD's background 
• 32:00 Discussing the GS relationship and concentration 
• 36:50 CCRD's different revenue lines 
• 40:50 Discussing the "Elephant in the room" (BB article on Apple trying to in house) 
• 50:00 Could GS buy CCRD? 
• 52:45 CCRD's valuation 
• 59:00 What makes CCRD's product "premium"? 
• 1:05:00 CCRD's approach to share repurchases 
• 1:06:15 A little more on CCRD's management and history 
• 1:10:30 Avi's closing thoughts

In today's episode of the Yet Another Value Podcast, Host, Andrew Walker, shares his thesis and presentation on Sage Therapeutics, Inc. (NASDAQ: SAGE), a biopharmaceutical company committed to pioneering solutions to deliver life-changing brain health medicines, so every person can thrive.

For more information and to subscribe to the Yet Another Value Substack, please visit: https://www.yetanothervalueblog.com/

Disclosure: long SAGE

Chapters:

[0:00] Episode sponsor: Alphasense

[3:21] Introduction - passive vs. active investing

[7:32] Overview of $SAGE and why its interesting to Andrew: passive owners in the company, shareholder engagement

[13:40] Biogen offer (rejected by Sage) - what happened

[17:34] Expert call with OBGYN (thank you, Alphasense!)

[21:38] Board needs to weigh opportunity cost of cash burn and options

[25:49] Shareholder engagement and IRWD cautionary tale / SAGE board and management compensation

[30:54] Biogen / Sage merger - why it makes sense and final thoughts

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Patrick Fleury, CFO of TeraWulf Inc. (NASDAQ: WULF), joins the podcast to discuss everything you need to know about bitcoin mining.

TeraWulf owns and operates vertically integrated, environmentally clean bitcoin mining facilities in the United States.

For more information and to subscribe to TeraWulf, please visit: https://www.terawulf.com/

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Santangel's Review

[1:34] Patrick Fleury's background / difference between oil and gas mining to bitcoin mining at TeraWulf

[6:10] Defining hash rate and hash price

[12:48] Halving

[14:10] ROI for every new bitcoin miner they build

[19:04] Cost of capital / power costs

[24:33] Economies of scale and growth for growth's sake

[28:05] ROI on a 20-year investment in bitcoin miner (when considering halvings happen every 4 years) / cooling / low cost mining strategy

[33:41] What happens if bitcoin price drops (from mining operation perspective)

[38:13] Why issuing shares and directing all cash flows to pay down debt the best use of capital?

[40:15] Valuation and where Patrick thinks bitcoin miners should trade / replacement costs on assets in the ground

[45:38] Mining facilities, power, AI plays, turning over to HFC and AI machines / power capacity, source of power

[54:43] Nautilus facility / bitcoin mining tax / expanding internationally

[100:16] Capital allocation

[1:01:36] M&A / value discrepancies / final thoughts

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Chris DeMuth joins the podcast to discuss the state of the markets in January 2023 and discuss what's on his mind, including updates on AVTI, the meme stocks roaring back, and why energy stocks seem poised to continue to perform well. 

Chapters 

• 0:00 Intro 
• 2:15 What's on Chris's mind 
• 5:20 Quick hits on ATVI, SPB, and SJR 
• 15:00 More on ATVI 
• 24:30 Meme stocks are back! 
• 30:00 Continued discussion on AMC / APE 
• 37:00 Shareholder discounts and WE's discounted desks 
• 39:30 Energy stock performance versus energy prices over the past year 
• 44:20 Why the world seems structurally short every commodity

Shaul Rosten, Equity Analyst, Global Value at Redwheel, joins the podcast to share his thesis on Ayvens ($AYV.PA), a provider of full-service leasing, flexible subscription services, fleet management and multi-mobility solutions to large international corporates, SMEs, professionals and private individuals.

For more information about Redwheel, please visit: https://www.redwheel.com/uk/en/institutional/

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Daloopa

[1:39] What is Ayvens and why are they so interesting to Shaul

[3:04] What is Shaul seeing with Ayvens that the market is missing

[5:46] How do they compete against capital Finco's / understanding the business, how they make money

[14:58] Red flags: what's going on with the "big merger" they did (LeasePlan)

[23:12] Electric vehicles

[28:02] Right to grow right now

[32:54] SocGen's 52% ownership

[38:29] Regulatory risks

[42:20] What could go wrong / what could break Ayvens thesis for Shaul

[46:14] Final thoughts: revisiting question - what does Shaul think the market is missing here, how'd they do during the GFC

[49:19] Financing business

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Zachary Buckley, Managing Partner at Buckley Capital Management, joins the podcast for the third time to share his thesis on Dentalcorp Holdings (TSX: DNTL) and why he's urging $DNTL.TO Board and Management to undertake a strategic review process.

Zack's letter to the board: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/buckley-capital-management-urges-dentalcorp-113000826.html

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Tegus

[1:43] Overview of Dentalcorp $DNTL.TO and his letter to the Board & Management

[7:15] Why'd they call off strategic alternatives in 2023 and why now is the right time

[12:23] Management changes / share restructure / US Listing / CRH comp

[17:43] Differences between Canadian and US dentistry[

20:02] Acquisition process / synergies for mom & pop dentistry practices with $DNTL / why private equity has gone after this industry aggressively

[26:16] Competitive landscape and environment

[28:58] Why hasn't the market warmed up to $DNTL.TO since it's IPO

[32:04] Capital allocation

[38:34] $DNTL.TO final thoughts on the company and his letter

[41:48] Anything else that keeps Zack up at night about $DNTL.TO?

[44:05] How big can Dentalcorp grow (when looking at amount of potential dental acquisitions)

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Paul Cerro, CIO of Cedar Grove Capital Management, joins the podcast to discuss his thesis on Red Cat Holdings (NASDAQ: RCAT), a drone technology company integrating robotic hardware and software for military, government, and commercial operations.

Cedar Grove RCAT thesis: https://www.cedargrovecm.com/p/red-cat-rcat-trade-worth-up-to-200-prcnt Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Ycharts

[2:28] What is Red Cat $RCAT and why are they so interesting to Paul

[6:26] Why is $RCAT relevant in the drone market? What is unique about $RCAT drones?

[13:29] Capabilities of $RCAT drones and how much they are selling them for (to the military) / what specifically going on with $RCAT drone that US Government is using them vs. going with commercial drone

[21:21] What is the SRR Contract and why is this a big deal

[25:40] Odds that $RCAT wins this SRR contract

[30:00] Economics if $RCAT wins the contract / what margins would look like

[33:12] Valuation: market already baking in best-case scenario in terms of them winning?

[36:17] What does the company look like if they don't win the contract / how much is Paul's bet on $RCAT winning the SRR contract vs. betting on Red Cat in particular

[40:05] Are the odds in the stock price right now that they win this contract vs. what Paul thinks the odds are that they win this contract / in Paul's opinion, what he thinks the market is missing

[45:22] Is there correlation between the NATO contract and SRR contract?

[50:39] Final thoughts

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Bill Chen, a real estate investor and Managing Director at Rhizome Partners, returns to the podcast to provide his latest insights on what's happening in publicly-traded real estate market, private real estate market and literally everything real estate in between.

For more information about Rhizome Partners, please visit: http://rhizomepartners.com/

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Alphasense

[1:38] Discrepancy between publicly-traded real estate and private market value / what's going on in REITs

[4:27] How does current Real Estate environment relate to similar historical periods

[9:26] Bill Chen's current real estate thesis

[13:58] Liquidation premium and where we are in the real estate cycle

[22:43] Public market trades below the private market - why shouldn't public market real estate trade for discount to private market?

[26:45] Real estate diversification, geographic risk and tax breaks

[38:38] Running apartments buildings net debt

[43:25] How to finance a distress cycle and capital allocation strategies during this time

[52:51] Why invest in real estate vs. (for lack of a better term) a lot of other stuff right now

[1:01:21] Why Bill Chen thinks this opportunity exists right now in publicly traded real estate

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It's time to welcome back Chris DeMuth for his monthly state of the markets. For this December 2023 edition, Chris discusses what's on his mind at the end of the year, Merger Arb, $ROIV, $IMVT, thoughts on $SAVE, views on 2024 and lessons learned from 2023.

For more information about Rangeley Capital, please visit: http://www.rangeleycapital.com/

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Alphasense

[1:46] Chris' thoughts, high level, for December 2023: merger arb

[2:44] Roivant $ROIV

[8:27] Immunovant, Inc. $IMVT

[13:44] Thoughts on $SAVE, antitrust, merger arb implications when government blocks M&A

[26:18] Views on 2024 and lessons learned from 2023

[36:23] CVRs

[42:55] Final thoughts

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Brian Finn, CIO of Findell Capital Management, discusses the letter he sent to Oportun Financial's board (NASDAQ: OPRT). Since Oportun's September 2019 IPO, shares have fallen -85%, falling well behind competitor, OneMain Holdings (OMF). In addition, costs have exploded higher and acquisitions have proved disastrous. Findell Capital Management Letter to the Oportun (Nasdaq: OPRT) Board of Directors (3/29/2023): https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5e17f2a118561f6339437f24/t/64240b4f0cf8705352d472b7/1680083791192/Findell+letter+to+OPRT.pdf Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Stream by Alphasense

[1:50] Oportun Financial overview and why Findell Capital sent a letter to OPRT's board of directors

[9:20] What is the $OPRT Board of Directors doing? What is the incentive structure?

[11:45] Understanding $OPRT's subprime lending business for underbanked folks

[15:32] Comparing $OPRT to competitors like OneMain

[24:20] Unpacking $OPRT valuation

[28:29] How Oportun's corporate strategy is wrong

[30:38] $OPRT valuation cont'd - what is the fair value of the loans + cost of financing

[34:29] $OPRT Q4 2022 earnings call

[38:54] Next steps following Findell's sending of the letter

[43:01] Why $OPRT should be private or run by PE

[44:51] Closing thoughts on $OPRT

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Marc Rubinstein, Founder and Editor of the Net Interest Newsletter, is back on the Yet Another Value Podcast to have a wide-ranging discussion digging into Marc's thoughts on the current state of banks, financial sector, as well as dissecting his article on what makes Capital One $COF interesting.

For more information about Marc Rubinstein, please visit: https://www.netinterest.co/

Article on Capital One: https://www.netinterest.co/p/capital-one-buffetts-latest-banking

Article on Charles Schwab: https://www.netinterest.co/p/vivat-charles-schwab

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Stream by Alphasense

[1:50] Overall thoughts on what's going on in the financial space

[5:15] Banks are balance sheets

[9:23] Why is tangible book value good? Why can't we go to half of tangible book value for a long time?

[13:47] Activism in community banks

[16:50] Wave of bank consolidation coming?

[19:06] Advantages in small banks

[22:32] History of Capital One $COF and what makes them interesting

[33:33] Marc's thoughts on the bank failure reports and has the way banking works fundamentally changed?

[42:11] Why isn't $COF not interested in buying regional banks anymore?

[48:58] Buffet attracted to the online side of or is he actually attracted to the diversified, consumer-focused nature of these banks?

[51:39] Does Capital One have a technology / marketing advantage versus other people?

[58:06] What does the future look like for Charles Schwab $SCHW?

[1:05:39] Current valuation of $SCHW

[1:07:36] Earnings issue, not liquidity issue

[1:09:27] Are we underestimating how profitable banks will be coming out of this banking crisis?

Today's episode is sponsored by: Stream by Alphasense

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Brian Finn, CIO of Findell Capital Management, is back on Yet Another Value Podcast in the quickest turnaround in the show's history, and for good reason. Following earnings calls from $CUTR (idea recently discussed with Vince Martin, link below) and $OPRT (idea discussed on Brian's first appearance, link below), there was a ton information to dissect.

Link to last podcast on $CUTR: https://youtu.be/LVqVzbAohus

Link to last podcast on $OPRT: https://youtu.be/xoxdSl3FwOk

Findell Capital Management Letter to the Oportun (3/29/2023): https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5e17f2a118561f6339437f24/t/64240b4f0cf8705352d472b7/1680083791192/Findell+letter+to+OPRT.pdf

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Stream by Alphasense

[1:38] Update on $CUTR following earnings, new board slate

[9:27] What happened on the $CUTR earnings call, who's on the new board slate and CEO candidates

[15:33] $CUTR cash burn and potential financing needs going forward

[19:30] What happens with the $CUTR former CEO and former Chairman

[23:39] How do you assign a value to $CUTR when looking at the potential upside with AviClear product

[31:22] How $CUTR is dealing with management and board turnover

[36:50] Final thoughts on $CUTR

[39:00] Quick update on $OPRT following earnings call

[43:24] How has regional banking "crisis" affected $OPRT

[47:49] Thoughts on Tidewater earnings

Today's episode is sponsored by: Stream by Alphasense

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Sahm Adrangi, Chief Investment Officer at Kerrisdale Capital, joins the podcast to share his thesis on ACM Research, Inc. (NASDAQ: ACMR), develops, manufactures and sells semiconductor process equipment spanning cleaning, electroplating, stress-free polishing, vertical furnace processes, track, PECVD, and wafer- and panel-level packaging tools, enabling advanced and semi-critical semiconductor device manufacturing.

Kerrisdale Capital's $ACMR write-up: https://www.kerrisdalecap.com/investments/acm-research-acmr/

For more information about Kerrisdale Capital, please visit: https://www.kerrisdalecap.com/

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Alphasense

[3:28] What is ACM Research and why are they so interesting to Sahm

[7:27] Chinese competitors

[10:24] What is Sahm seeing with $ACMR that the market is missing

[12:54] Discounts

[15:34] $ACMR business vs. politics/regulatory risks

[22:48] China risk / listing in Asian market / US-listed company with operations in China, CEO being US citizen

[29:54] Is there a lack of urgency from management? (Capital Allocation strategy)

[33:54] $ACMR valuation

[37:33] Technical sophistication of the cleaning tools

[41:19] How exposed to slow down in AI spending and business growth prospects

[48:10] $ACMR final thoughts

[50:39] What could go wrong / what could break $ACMR thesis for Sahm

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Welcome to the March 2025 edition of Andrew's Random Ramblings on the Yet Another Value Podcast. Once a month, Andrew will share thoughts on a few topics - this episode includes: the market sell off, relationships with management teams - pros and cons, activism and corporate governance, and where to live

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Daloopa

[2:30] The market sell off

[15:45] Developing relationships with management teams

[22:02] Corporate governance and activism

[25:26] Where to live

[28:58] Planet MicroCap Showcase: VEGAS 2025 in partnership with MicroCapClub

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Zack Buckley, Managing Partner at Buckley Capital Partners, joins Yet Another Value Podcast for the second time to provide an update on his Xponential Fitness, Inc. (NYSE: XPOF) thesis since he was last on the podcast and following the Fuzzy Panda short report on the company.

For more information about Buckley Capital Partners, please visit: https://buckleycapitalpartners.com/

Zack's first appearance on YAVP discussing $XPOF: https://youtu.be/listaT3Bx6Q

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Stream by Alphasense

[1:35] What happened to $XPOF following the short report is released

[3:57] $XPOF short report details - first allegation; Tony's first venture, Interactive Solutions

[10:20] $XPOF short report details - second allegation; LA Boxing venture

[12:16] $XPOF short report details - third allegation; 2015 incident

[14:33] CEO is a loose cannon or are these just one-offs?

[15:33] $XPOF short report details - addressing culture of sexual harassment

[19:02] $XPOF short report details - economics of the business and franchisees

[23:47] $XPOF franchisee transfer rates / understanding franchise network industry norms

[29:34] $XPOF billing practices and BBB complaints

[33:28] $XPOF financial covenants

[34:30] $XPOF fair valuation

[37:33] $XPOF capital allocation

[42:52] Upcoming $XPOF catalysts

[47:08] What Zack hopes to see at the $XPOF investor day

[48:25] Zack's $XPOF differential insights gained from talking with franchisees

[53:14] $XPOF final thoughts

Today's episode is sponsored by: Stream by Alphasense

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It's time to welcome back Chris DeMuth for his monthly state of the markets. For this January 2024 edition, Chris discusses anti-trust, Spirit decision, US Steel - Nippon, banks and $LQDA.

For more information about Rangeley Capital, please visit: http://www.rangeleycapital.com/ Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Alphasense

[1:53] Anti-trust + Spirit decision

[9:00] Judge's decision in Spirit case + how antitrust lawyers reacted before and after the decision

[15:45] Future of anti-trust and mergers

[21:32] US Steel - Nippon

[28:33] Banks

[30:32] $LQDA

Today's episode is sponsored by: Alphasense

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Judd Arnold, Lake Cornelia Research Management @CorneliaLake, joins the podcast to discuss the MiX Telematics $MIXT and Powerfleet $PWFL merger.

$PWFL / $MIXT Memo: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eONP4_CF6UPAKXYuZiDedUt2jRimujTa/view

For more information for Lake Cornelia Research Management and Judd Arnold, you can can Follow on Twitter/X @CorneliaLake: https://twitter.com/CorneliaLake

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Tegus

[2:53] Overview of $MIXT / $PWFL

[10:18] Why $MIXT / $PWFL merger is so interesting to Judd

[21:21] Pushback on the bull case for the merger

[27:56] Switching costs / AI

[34:22] Open vs. closed systems

[37:38] Management and incentives

[48:44] Management's comments and vision post-deal

[53:58] Thoughtful pushback Judd has received on thesis

[59:20] Merger background

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Mitchell Scott, Founder and Portfolio Manager at Choice Equities Capital Management, joined the podcast to make the case that Crocs, Inc. (NASDAQ: CROX) is not a fad.

For more information about Choice Equities Capital Management, please visit: https://choice-equities.com/

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Stream by Alphasense

[1:36] What is $CROX, why is it interesting to Mitchell and $CROX growth story

[4:50] What is Jibbitz, patent protection on the product and consumer trends using the product

[8:22] $CROX valuation

[12:16] $CROX bear case and response

[16:44] Why aren't there more Crocs knock-offs

[17:40] Is $CROX just a COVID beneficiary and Crocs brand power

[22:01] Crocs core customer and fashion/age out risk

[25:04] HEYDUDE acquisition, go-forward with management's strategy around the brand, average customer of HEYDUDE shoes, knock off problem and why would one need multiple pairs of them

[34:19] How do overcome the bears $CROX worry that Crocs (and other brands $CROX owns) turns out to be a fad

[38:45] Why is $CROX the best buyer and owner of HEYDUDE?

[41:00] Endgame for $CROX / apparel line in the future?

[44:17] Final thoughts on $CROX: shifting HEYDUDE wholesale channel, worry about inventory buildup and this year's earnings

Today's episode is sponsored by: Stream by Alphasense

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But that's not all. Stream also provides the ability to engage with experts 1-on-1 and get your calls transcribed free-of-charge—all for 40% less than you would pay for 20 calls in a traditional expert network model. So, if you're looking to optimize your research process and increase ROI on investment research spend, Stream has the solution for you. Head over to their website at streamrg.com to learn more. Thanks for listening, and we'll catch you next time. For more information: https://www.streamrg.com/

Chris DeMuth joins the podcast to discuss the state of the markets in December 2022 and what’s catching his eye in event driven land, including updates on ATVI, why pre-arb was so bad in 2022, and  WLFC's proposed takeout.   

Chapters 

• 0:00 Intro 
• 2:30 What's on Chris's mind 
• 4:00 Discussing why "pre-arb" didn't work in 2022 
• 11:20 Updating ATVI 
• 21:00 Majority takeouts of minorities 
• 29:45 WLFC takeout 
• 37:20 AMZN's IRBT takeout

It's time to welcome back Chris DeMuth for his monthly state of the markets. For this May 2023 edition, Chris shares his thoughts on the government suing to block the Horizon Therapeutics sale to Amgen, government's history of antitrust cases, Amazon / iRobot deal, evaluating judges in antitrust cases, banking sector and more!

For more information about Rangeley Capital, please visit: http://www.rangeleycapital.com/

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Stream by Alphasense

[1:58] What's on Chris' mind for May 2023 starting with government suing to block the Horizon Therapeutics sale to Amgen and government history of antitrust cases

[9:22] Amazon / iRobot deal

[13:23] What is the government arguing in the Amgen / Horizon case

[16:39] Evaluating antitrust cases, judges in particular + Amgen / Horizon case cont'd

[29:09] Banking sector: update on regional banks and how Chris thinks about the space right now

[39:15] Closing thoughts

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Jeremy Raper returns to the podcast to discuss his latest "engagement campaign" at London listed Serica Energy (SQZ). In particular, he focuses on why Serica is trying to rush through their most recent deal and why shareholders should consider voting against the share issuance at the meeting next week.  

Jeremy's letter to Serica: https://rapercapital.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/open-letter-Serica-Board-1.pdf 

All of Jeremy's engagement campaigns: https://rapercapital.com/engagement-campaigns/  

Chapters 

• 0:00 Intro 
• 2:30 What's happening at SQZ 
• 8:45 SQZ's past deal rejections and timing on this deal 
• 15:45 Why an "accretive" deal does not necessarily create value 
• 17:30 How this deal insulates management and discourages shareholder feedback 
• 22:05 Discussing SQZ's shareholder base
• 27:30 How this deal gives away a controlling stake in Serica for free 
• 30:00 What should shareholders who don't like this deal should do 
• 32:20 How Serica management will respond if the current vote fails 
• 36:05 Providing an update on the coal trade 
• 47:35 Discussing Unit Corp (UNTC)

It's time to welcome back Chris DeMuth for his monthly state of the markets. For this April 2023 edition, Chris shares his thoughts on the Spectrum Brands antitrust lawsuit, thoughts on Activision Microsoft following the CMA unexpectedly ruled against the deal, and the Wells Notice sent to Coinbase.

For more information about Rangeley Capital, please visit: http://www.rangeleycapital.com/

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Stream by Alphasense

[1:36] What's on Chris' mind for April 2023: AMC, Coinbase, Spectrum Brands, Greyscale Trust

[2:33] Spectrum Brands antitrust lawsuit

[15:36] Understanding the value on Spectrum Brands if they win or lose the case

[23:27] The politics behind the Spectrum Brands case

[28:27] Thoughts on Activision Microsoft following the CMA unexpectedly ruled against the deal

[34:40] Does Activision want extend the walk date?

[37:09] What is a Wells Notice, the Wells Notice sent to Coinbase, their response to the Wells Notice

[42:44] What is the timeline and enforcement process now after sending the Wells Notice to Coinbase

[46:33] Politics on both sides of the Coinbase argument

Today's episode is sponsored by: Stream by Alphasense Are traditional expert calls in the investment world becoming obsolete? According to Stream, they are, and you can access primary research easily and efficiently through their platform. With Stream, you'll have the right insights at your fingertips to make the best investment decisions. They offer a vast library of over 26,000 expert transcripts, powered by AI search technology. Plus, they provide competitive rates on expert call services, and you can even have an experienced buy-side analyst conduct the calls for you. But that's not all. Stream also provides the ability to engage with experts 1-on-1 and get your calls transcribed free-of-charge—all for 40% less than you would pay for 20 calls in a traditional expert network model. So, if you're looking to optimize your research process and increase ROI on investment research spend, Stream has the solution for you. Head over to their website at streamrg.com to learn more. Thanks for listening, and we'll catch you next time. For more information: https://www.streamrg.com/

It's time to welcome back Chris DeMuth for his monthly state of the markets. For this March 2024 edition, Chris shares his thoughts on meme stocks being back in vogue, $DJT, is speculation back in the market right now, small caps due for some revenge, crypto, bitcoin halving and SBF sentencing.

For more information about Rangeley Capital, please visit: http://www.rangeleycapital.com/

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Santangel's Review

[2:14] Chris' high level thoughts as we conclude March 2024

[3:35] Meme stocks back in vogue / $DJT

[7:31] Deeper dive on $DJT / monetizing celebrity

[14:54] Is speculation back?

[18:09] Small caps due for some revenge?

[23:40] Crypto, bitcoin halving, performance since launch of ETFs

[32:06] SBF sentencing

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Todd Wenning, CFA, President and CIO at KNA Capital Management, joins the podcast to discuss his thesis on Ecolab Inc. (NYSE: ECL), a global sustainability leader offering water, hygiene and infection prevention solutions and services.

For more information about KNA Capital Management, please visit: https://www.kna-capital.com/

To subscribe to Todd's newsletter, Flyover Stocks, on Substack, please visit: https://www.flyoverstocks.com/

You can Follow Todd Wenning on Twitter/X @ToddWenning: https://x.com/ToddWenning

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Daloopa

[1:24] What is Ecolab $ECL and why is it interesting to Todd

[3:38] What is Todd seeing that the market is missing with $ECL

[6:30] $ECL achilles heel and how they are addressing that / understanding the upside

[12:33] $ECL business and major drivers for growth

[20:11] Water vertical / why Ecolab's products and services are critical to data centers, hospitals

[26:29] Does it make sense for $ECL to have all these businesses under one roof?

[29:22] Cintas comparison: market penetration / has $ECL ever lost a QSR?

[36:18] Insider ownership and incentives / Bill Gates investment, starting to sell through Cascade

[45:47] Debate on AI and automation with Ecolab

[51:37] Difference between Ecolab and Cintas or Costco

[57:16] What would cause $ECL to regress to the mean

[1:00:57] $ECL Final thoughts

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Kyle Mowery and Mike Holt, CFA, Managing Partner / Portfolio Manager and Senior Analyst, respectively, at Grizzly Rock Capital joins the podcast today to discuss their thesis on Ferroglobe PLC (NASDAQ: GSM), a leading producer globally of silicon metal, silicon-based and manganese-based specialty alloys.

For more information about Grizzly Rock Capital, please visit: https://www.grizzlyrockcapital.com/

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Stream by Alphasense

[1:47] Who is Ferroglobe PLC (NASDAQ: GSM) and why are they interesting?

[3:39] $GSM valuation

[7:52] What Grizzly Rock Capital thinks the market is misunderstanding about $GSM

[10:51] Global supply / demand curve for silicon metal in China + IRA demand

[17:51] How much of $GSM earnings come from solar currently

[20:01] Evaluating $GSM on an asset valuation basis

[23:53] Management evaluation and semi-controlling shareholder / long term vision

[29:40] Capital allocation strategy

[32:52] Inflation Reduction Act (IRA) and solar demand

[35:49] Plants coming online in North America and how that affects $GSM

[38:38] Outlook on European assets

[40:56] Licensing off EV patents and maintenance capex

[44:57] How Grizzly Rock Capital looking at 2024 earnings

[47:15] Bridging the gap of Grizzly Rock Capital's 2024 expectations vs. $GSM historical performance

[53:14] $GSM final thoughts

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It's time to welcome back Chris DeMuth for his monthly state of the markets. For this April 2024 edition, Chris shares his thoughts on: the markets as we head into the Summer months, anti-trust, Capri-Tapestry anti-trust case, mergers blocked in greater frequency - has there been another time like this, and more!

For more information about Rangeley Capital, please visit: http://www.rangeleycapital.com/

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Fundamental Edge

[1:57] Thoughts on markets as we finish up April and head into the Summer months

[3:47] Growth in the largest businesses in the index

[8:27] Anti-trust

[12:36] Capri-Tapestry anti-trust case

[27:38] Capri-Tapestry cont'd - market definition

[38:43] Last 6 months, 3 mergers have been challenged and blocked - ever been another time like this?

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Michael D. Cohen, CEO & Director of Research at MDC Financial Research, LLC, joins the podcast for the second time to share his thoughts on the JetBlue $JBLU / Spirit Airlines $SAVE merger trial now that closing arguments have been made. Known for their “Event-Driven Legal” investment-research, Michael Cohen and his team follow significant legal disputes and are closely watching the $JBLU / $SAVE case.

For more information about MDC Financial Research, please visit: https://mdcfinancial.com/

For more on the SAVE / JBLU trial, see podcast #204, Michael's first appearance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFN_iXHdF78

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Alphasense

[1:41] Update since half-time report: overall thoughts on trial now that we have had closing arguments - $JBLU / $SAVE merger trial

[3:55] $JBLU / $SAVE merger trial closing arguments

[11:04] Feel for how Judge is likely to craft opinion on the case

[14:20] Potential additional remedies to get merger over the hurdle

[17:02] Market definition and timing of the deal (how does this affect consumers)

[23:41] Step 3: the burden of proof from the DOJ, showing there is harm to consumers

[24:32] Cont'd: timing of the deal (how does this affect consumers

[27:51] United Airlines testimony

[35:03] Commentary on Spirit's survivability if merger doesn't go through

[41:38] JetBlue's second expert witness

[43:43] Dr. Chipley's testimony

[45:54] Closing arguments cont'd: competition be preserved

[48:02] Closing arguments cont'd: balance of nationwide benefit vs. local harm

[52:28] Main divergence of opinion based on being in the courtroom

[56:52] Hot docs

[59:05] Odds of merger going through closes vs. failing vs. re-pricing

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Welcome to the July 2024 edition of Andrew's Random Ramblings on the Yet Another Value Podcast. Once a month, Andrew will share thoughts on a few topics - this episode includes: small cap performance, buybacks, stock price drives narrative, CEO changes, due diligence on companies you don't like (i.e. don't like the product or service personally), alternative data and idea dinners.

Posts mentioned during pod:

On the stress of market melt ups: https://www.yetanothervalueblog.com/p/weekend-thoughts-the-stress-of-market

On stock prices driving narrative: https://www.yetanothervalueblog.com/p/weekend-thoughts-bonus-stock-prices Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction to Andrew's Random Ramblings + Episode sponsor: Tegus

[2:18] Small cap performance, buybacks

[5:15] Stock price drives narrative

[8:35] CEO changes

[10:42] Due diligence on companies you don't like (i.e. don't like the product or service personally)

[16:28] Alternative data

[18:55] Idea dinners

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Welcome to the November 2024 edition of Andrew's Random Ramblings on the Yet Another Value Podcast. Once a month, Andrew will share thoughts on a few topics - this episode includes: Quick thoughts on the election, polymarket, what investors do to stay on top of their game, Investing blind spots: financial engineering and existential risks.

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction to Andrew's Random Ramblings + Episode sponsor: Daloopa

[1:57] Quick thoughts on the election, market reactions

[6:35] Polymarket

[9:48] What do top investors do that mirrors NBA players that spend millions on their body management to stay at the top of their games

[13:20] Investing blind spots: financial engineering, existential risks

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Jacob Rubin, Portfolio Manager at Philosophy Capital, joins the podcast for the third time to share two theses: the first - Caesars Entertainment (NASDAQ: CZR), the second - Gannett Co., Inc. (NYSE: GCI).

For more information about Philosophy Capital, please visit: https://www.philosophycap.com/

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Santangel's Review

[4:20] Overview of Caesars and why its so interesting to Jacob + why focus on $CZR and not all the other gaming-type companies

[12:28] In gaming, how much does scale matter

[16:26] Fear of the consumer vs. results of the cashflow

[23:06] $CZR what happened in Q1 2024 / catalysts on the upside / capital allocation

[34:30] Digital (online gaming) ramp

[39:20] Sum of the parts / $CZR valuation

[45:07] Carl Icahn investment in $CZR

[49:01] Overview of Gannett $GCI and why it's so interesting to Jacob

[54:44] Two legs to the thesis: AI and lawsuit against Google / undervalued - what's more of the play for Jacob with $GCI?

[1:02:05] $GCI valuation / Apollo involvement

Today's episode is sponsored by: Santangel's Review

Finding the right hedge fund cap intro event isn't just about the size; it’s about the value it brings to your time. This month's sponsor, Santangel's Review, offers something unique for fund managers and allocators.

Founded in 2010, Santangel’s hosts three Cap Intro Roundtables each year - two in New York City and one at Fenway Park in Boston. These events stand out for their focus on quality over quantity, attracting some of the most prestigious endowments, foundations, and family offices worldwide.

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Eric Speron, Managing Director of Equities, PM of First Foundation Total Return (FBBYX) at First Foundation, Inc., joins the podcast to share his thesis on Lagardere SA (MMB.PA), an international group with operations in more than 40 countries worldwide. The Group focuses on three divisions: Lagardère Publishing (Books, E-Books, Partworks, Stationery, Board Games and Mobile Games), Lagardère Travel Retail (Travel Essentials, Duty Free & Fashion and Dining) and Lagardère News (Le Journal du Dimanche, JDNews and the Elle brand licence). The Group’s operating assets also include Lagardère Live Entertainment and Lagardère Paris Racing.

Eric Speron's Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eric-speron-cfa-09925a3/

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Daloopa

[2:31] What is Lagardere SA (MMB.PA) and why is it so interesting to Eric

[6:12] What is Eric seeing with Lagardere SA (MMB.PA) that the market is missing

[8:54] Vivendi's spin off of ownership stake in Lagardere in December

[13:21] Publishing business and growth catalysts

[28:25] Travel retail business and the opportunity here

[36:28] What does the sum of the parts look like; valuation question

[41:07] How does Eric think the spin off will play out

[47:44] Final thoughts

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The team from Half Moon Capital, Eric DeLamarter and Brandon Carnovale, come on the pod to discuss their thesis on Oxford Industries (OXM). OXM owns the Tommy Bahama and Lily Pulitzer brands, and Half Moon thinks the market is underestimating the strength of those brands for a variety of reasons.  

Half Moon's OXM thesis: https://acrobat.adobe.com/id/urn:aaid:sc:VA6C2:aec0338f-33d0-4e35-b956-ac6aa024167a?viewer%21megaVerb=group-discover 

Chapters 

• 0:00 Intro 
• 2:20 OXM overview 
• 5:00 Tommy Bahama brand strength 
• 8:55 Could Tommy Bahama follow the LULU brand path? 
• 16:05 OXM's valuation 
• 22:10 Did Tommy Bahama over-earn during COVID? 
• 28:00 OXM management 36:10 Capital Allocation and OXM's recent Johnny Was acquisition 
• 38:30 CROX HEYDUDE acquisition and learnings for OXM 
• 43:10 A little more on Tommy Bahama and the California branded hotel 
• 47:30 OXM's margins and current competitive environment 
• 53:30 Tommy Bahama's inventory risk

AJ Secrist from Firstlight Management discussed his thesis for Lamb Weston (LW). LW is a very strong business, and AJ thinks the market is missing just how much margin upside there is as COVID era deals with large customers reprice and the company laps 2021’s disastrous potato crop.  

Chapters 

• 0:00 Intro 
• 2:25 LW Overview 
• 9:35 LW Valuation 
• 13:00 Isn't LW fully valued at these prices?
•  19:25 Discussing the current potato crop 
• 26:55 Global margin upside 
• 28:35 Why is scale an advantage for LW? 
• 31:45 Why will LW's margins accelerate now? 
• 34:30 Industry demand and supply dynamics 
• 37:20 Capital allocation and share buybacks 
• 41:30 Management incentives and share price targets 
• 45:00 Potential private equity or BRK end games 
• 48:10 A little more discussion on LW's potential P/E multiple 
• 51:10 What happens if we have a low carb craze again?

Rory Wallace, Chief Investment Officer at Outerbridge Capital, joins the podcast to discuss his thesis on Allot Ltd. (NASDAQ: ALLT), a leading global provider of innovative network intelligence and security solutions for service providers and enterprises worldwide.

For more information about Rory Wallace and Outbridge Capital, please visit: https://www.outerbridgecapital.com/

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Fintool

[2:06] What is Allot $ALLT and why is it so interesting to Rory

[7:22] What is Rory seeing with $ALLT thesis that that the market is missing

[12:11] Fundamental question RE: vendors and vendor stickiness with Verizon partnership

[20:51] Why are customers signing up for Verizon security service vs. something else

[27:34] What drove $ALLT run in stock price in last couple months

[30:44] What is different this time with the $ALLT pitch vs. past write-ups on VIC

[34:55] Management

[39:10] Is there a chance that AT&T would use the same CCAS provider as Verizon (Allot)

[43:36] Shareholder mindset of the company

[46:07] $ALLT valuation

[48:22] Competitive landscape

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Judd Arnold, Lake Cornelia Research Management @CorneliaLake, joins the podcast to discuss the offshore drilling space, $TDW update, activism, $VAL, $RIG, $NE, Petrobas risk, macro risks, reflecting on recent positions with lessons learned and what Judd is focused on for 2024.

For more information for Lake Cornelia Research Management and Judd Arnold, you can can Follow on Twitter/X @CorneliaLake: https://twitter.com/CorneliaLake

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Fundamental Edge

[2:24] Offshore drilling space and $TDW update

[13:12] Offshore drilling space - market correction? and $VAL $RIG

[22:56] Why $VAL might not exercise options and Judd's newsletter explaining why $VAL should ($VAL ultimately did) + discussion on activism

[35:38] What's it going to take for $VAL to start working

[40:25] New build

[43:48] Petrobas risk?

[45:19] Macro risks: OPEC, Oil prices, geopolitics, US Election

[51:52] Gulf of Mexico

[55:48] What Judd is focused on; activism; reflecting on recent positions and lessons learned

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Steven Gorelik, Lead Portfolio Manager at Firebird U.S. Value Fund, joins the podcast to share his thesis on Akamai Technologies, Inc. (NASDAQ: AKAM), the cloud company that powers and protects life online.

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: YCharts

[1:54] Overview of Akamai Technologies and why its so interesting to Steven

[13:09] $AKAM valuation

[15:39] Cloud computing and delivery segments

[29:10] Why $AKAM now and is $AKAM being run for stockholders or being run for the employees?

[34:12] CEO insider transactions

[36:44] As a generalist investor, who isn't solely focused on cloud/security companies, why isn't $AKAM just some growthy business competing with major players? What does Steven know that specialists aren't seeing with $AKAM

[44:52] Ways $AKAM could benefit from AI, or as an AI play

[51:32] Does cloud computing, delivery and security businesses belong together?

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In this episode of the Yet Another Value Podcast Monthly Book Club, host Andrew Walker is joined by Byrne Hobart, author of The Diff newsletter, to discuss Diary of a Very Bad Year: Confessions of an Anonymous Hedge Fund Manager. The conversation explores the book’s candid insights from a hedge fund manager navigating the 2008 financial crisis. Andrew and Byrne dig into the accuracy of predictions made in real time, the psychology of uncertainty, and the relevance of past financial mistakes to today’s AI boom and private credit landscape. This is a thoughtful discussion on expertise, misallocation, and financial memory—both personal and systemic.This month's book on amazon: https://amzn.to/4hUNk8sChapters:[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: AlphaSense[2:00] Overview of Diary of a Very Bad Year: Confessions of an Anonymous Hedge Fund Manager[12:00] Bubbles through a misallocation of resources lens[22:35] History rhymes / Predictions in the book[35:45] Tariffs today versus housing in 2005[45:00] Misallocation of resources if AI is a bubble[56:00] Druckenmiller's Argentinean betToday's sponsor: AlphaSense; Try it free today at alpha-sense.com/YAVPThis episode is brought to you by AlphaSense—the market intelligence platform I rely on for faster, deeper insight.If you’ve used platforms like Tegus, you’ll feel right at home—but AlphaSense takes it further. With over 150,000 expert call transcripts and 450 million+ premium documents, it’s become my go-to resource for both qualitative and competitive research.And now, with Generative AI tools like Gen Search and Gen Grid, AlphaSense makes it easier than ever to accelerate your workflow. Gen Search lets you ask natural-language questions—like “What’s driving margin pressure in semis?”—and instantly surfaces answers pulled from expert calls, earnings transcripts, filings, and more.Gen Grid takes it a step further—automating repeatable workflows by applying multiple prompts across dozens of documents at once. It delivers clean, table-format answers like sales trends, macro commentary, or pricing signals—all with clickable citations so you can trace insights directly to the source.Whether you’re digging into a company, comparing peers, or parsing 10-Ks at scale, AlphaSense gives you a speed and depth advantage. Try it free today at alpha-sense.com/YAVP and experience the future of research.See our legal disclaimer here: https://www.yetanothervalueblog.com/p/legal-and-disclaimer

Daye Deng, Co-Founder and Editor of the Value Punks newsletter on Substack, joins the podcast to discuss his articles that are deep dives on Japanese Trading Companies and why Warren Buffett invested in Japan.

Value Punks article on Japanese Trading Companies: https://valuepunks.substack.com/p/deep-dive-japanese-trading-companies

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Alphasense

[1:26] History of the Japanese trading companies and Warren Buffett

[6:59] Why trading so important in Japanese economy

[12:37] Why Buffett made his first investment in Japan

[22:23] Breaking down of Sogo Shosha (Japanese Trading Companies)

[26:38] Why Buffett holding his investment despite run-up

[28:21] Examples of corporate governance and capital allocation changes that Japanese trading companies specifically made to improve them

[37:54] Overview of the basket of 7 Japanese Trading Companies, and what Daye thinks is the most interesting/exciting; difference between tier one, tier two and tier three players, and how would Daye label the 5 companies Buffett invested in (Tier 1-3)

[43:16] Geopolitical reasons folks interested in Japan

[47:13] ESG in Japan

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Christopher Pavese, President & Chief Investment Officer at Broyhill Asset Management, joins the podcast to discuss Avantor, Inc. (NYSE: AVTR), a leading global provider of mission-critical products and services to customers in the life sciences and advanced technology industries.

For more information about Broyhill Asset Management, please visit: https://www.broyhillasset.com/

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Tegus

[1:35] As a generalist, how Chris and team arrived looking at healthcare + GLP-1 tangent

[9:16] Overview of Avantor, Inc. $AVTR and why it's interesting to Chris

[13:56] Laboratory Solutions (accounts for 2/3's of $AVTR revs) / how embedded is $AVTR with customer base (CDMO business)

[20:19] VWR acquisition

[23:02] Disconnect between reported numbers and large cap comparisons / understanding cyclicality in life sciences/healthcare

[32:36] Variant opinion that generates alpha in $AVTR

[37:14] Why not own $TMO or $DHR over $AVTR?

[42:06] Capital allocation and M&A

[46:22] Build vs. sell

[48:35] Recovery story: bull or base case when $AVTR shared guidance

[54:01] Return on due diligence work with $AVTR, perception as a complicated business

[1:02:04] Tail risks

[1:06:39] Final thoughts

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Yaron Naymark returns to the podcast to discuss the value case for IWG (London Listed). IWG is best known for their Regus brand, which competes with WeWork in the flex office space. Yaron thinks the market is discounting the operating leverage IWG will realize as they put COVID behind them and begin to accelerate their managed locations offering.   

Chapters 

• 0:00 Intro 
• 2:10 IWG overview 
• 12:05 How does the current high vacancy office space impact flex 
• 17:00 Why COVID and tech layoffs could be a tailwind for flex office demand 
• 20:05 Why office owners can't do flex themselves 
• 28:30 Discussing WeWork's brand versus IWG 
• 39:15 IWG's operating leverage and current valuation
• 52:35 Why is it taking IWG so long to accelerate their franchise business / refranchise corporate locations 
• 55:50 Is pitching value creation / operating leverage just a Waiting for Godot story? 
• 1:05:00 Looking at a potential Instant sale 
• 1:12:30 The complexities of IWG's financial reporting

Chris McIntyre returns to the podcast to discuss Sotera Healthcare (SHC), why he thinks it's such a good business, and why he thinks the stock is still undervalued even after a big run in the wake of putting their legal liabilities (largely) behind them.  

Chapters 

• 0:00 Intro 
• 2:15 Sotera Overview 
• 5:30 What makes Sotera such a good business? 
• 14:30 Why it's so unlikely a new competitor can enter the space 
• 19:55 Discussing Sotera's "growth algorithm"  
• 23:30 Sotera's multiple / valuation 
• 32:00 Historical legal liabilities overview 
• 38:45 The "science" behind the legal liabilities 
• 43:15 SHC's settlement and putting the legal liabilities behind them 
• 49:00 Why Georgia is not the same risk as Illinois was 
• 53:35 Sotera's controlling shareholders and their plans for the company 
• 56:00 M&A and roll up possibilities 
• 1:00:45 Closing thoughts

AJ Secrist from Firstlight Management is back on the podcast today to provide an update on Lamb Weston Holdings Inc. (NYSE: LW), a key supplier of french fries to fast-food chains, following their recent quarterly update and in advance of their investor day.

Check out his first appearance on YAVP laying out his $LW thesis (December 2022): https://youtu.be/lNY8sQVttks

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Stream by Alphasense

[1:24] Update on Lamb Weston Holdings $LW since AJ's last appearance on YAVP in December 2022; how the stock has performed / fundamental issues

[5:44] $LW recent conference call: French fry attachment rate and why it matters / inventory destocking

[13:07] Current valuation for $LW and justifying AJ's $7 EPS thesis / key drivers of value

[20:30] Gross margins and SG&A expenses

[23:45] Expectations from the $LW investor day / should they be doing an investor day?

[31:43] Buybacks

[34:18] $LW final thoughts / bear case?

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Julia Laulis, Chair of the Board, President & CEO of Cable One, Inc. (NYSE: CABO), joins Yet Another Value Podcast to discuss how the cable industry is positioned right now in 2023, and Cable One's focus moving forward. Cable One will also be at The Markel Corporation's 2023 shareholders meeting in Richmond, VA on May 17, 2023, where Andrew will also be in attendance. Chapters: 0:00 - Introduction + Episode sponsor: $BYTE 1:44 - Let's talk about the Cable business; why its an exciting and scary time in the space 4:04 - Does fixed wireless pose a risk to Cable One's focus on broadband for small cities, large towns strategy? 6:47 - The fear with fixed wireless 10:13 - Cable One's experience with fixed wireless 12:13 - Data usage 15:16 - What is it that ultimately turns a fixed wireless customer into a parking place for a future cable customer? 17:17 - Reliability of the network 19:07 - MD&O strategy 21:56 - Fiber overbuilding in general 27:49 - Customer ARPU 31:37 - Cable One's pricing 34:44 - Data throughputs 38:14 - Switching to IPTV and how does this improve the economics of the business 42:13 - Julia's thoughts on fiber vs. Docsis 4.0 for Cable One 46:57 - Is Julia starting to the M&A environment picking up? 48:51 - Share buybacks and capital allocation strategy 51:27 - Customer churn and macro perspective on new connects 1:00:16 - Cont'd. on customer low churn Today's episode is sponsored by: Roundhill IO Digital Infrastructure ETF – BYTE Investing in the real assets that underpin our digital world has never been easier. We are pleased to bring you this podcast in partnership with Roundhill Investments, the advisor to the Roundhill IO Digital Infrastructure ETF – BYTE - which trades on the New York Stock Exchange under the ticker symbol - “B” “Y” “T” “E”. The fund tracks the BYTE Index, which measures the performance of 40 leading global digital infrastructure businesses, such as towers and mobile communications, fiber and fixed line connectivity, and data centers. For a prospectus and more information, please visit roundhillinvestments.com/etf/byte - read carefully. Investing involves risk, including possible loss of principal. Investors should consider the investment objectives, risks, charges, and expenses carefully before investing in BYTE. Distributor Foreside Fund Services, LLC: https://www.roundhillinvestments.com/etf/byte/

Brad Hathaway, Managing Partner of Far View Capital Management, joins the podcast today to discuss what he thinks is a compelling setup at Distribution Solutions Group, Inc. (NASDAQ: DSGR), a premier multi-platform specialty distribution company providing high touch, value-added distribution solutions to the maintenance, repair & operations (MRO), the original equipment manufacturer (OEM) and the industrial technologies markets.

For more information about Far View Capital Management, please visit: https://www.farviewcapitalmgmt.com/

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Alphasense

[3:11] Quick overview of Distribution Solutions Group $DSGR and why it's interesting to Brad

[4:40] Overall $DSGR setup, starting with rights offering

[7:07] $DSGR business overview (all three businesses), direct comps, competitive sales advantage, customer retention

[19:51] $DSGR transaction (LKCM involvement) and why do all three businesses belong together?

[29:23] $DSGR thesis and LKCM's history with specialty distributors

[36:20] $DSGR valuation, what type of organic growth would $DSGR show without future acquisition, how much of the industry is still in-house, roll-up strategy multiple

[46:00] Scaling $DSGR business, capital allocation and tail risks

[57:22] Scaled specialty distributor that has not worked

[1:01:11] Path to liquidity, management and LKCM alignment

Today's episode is sponsored by: Alphasense

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Doug O'Laughlin, Founder and Editor of the Fabricated Knowledge and Mule's Musings Newsletter, joins the Yet Another Value Podcast for the 3rd time to discuss AppLovin Corporation (NASDAQ: APP). Doug became excited about the idea and wanted to come on to chat about it because a very aggressive PSU that recently happened at AppLovin, and what these management incentives could mean for the business. For more information about Doug O'Laughlin and his newsletters, please visit:

Fabricated Knowledge: https://www.fabricatedknowledge.com/

Mule's Musings: https://mulesmusings.substack.com

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Stream by Alphasense

[2:17] Overview of AppLovin $APP

[4:50] What does IDFA means and why this is important when looking at $APP, understanding "Mediation"

[13:19] $APP's business model and their portfolio of hyper-casual games

[20:41] Unity and ironSource deal and how that affected AppLovin $APP

[26:22] $APP valuation

[29:30] What is the market missing about $APP?

[32:52] Share buybacks

[36:36] PSU grants and management incentives

[39:32] What concerns Doug the most about $APP

[40:23] Industry headwinds (ad rates getting crushed throughout 2022)

[42:58] $APP corporate governance, acquisition hit rate, incentives

[52:37] Strategic optionality of selling the games business and AI lever

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Julian Lin, Founder of Best of Breed Growth Stocks, an investment newsletter, joins the podcast to discuss his thesis on Reddit, Inc. (NYSE: RDDT).

$RDDT write-up on Seeking Alpha: https://seekingalpha.com/article/4686257-reddit-julian-lins-top-conviction-idea

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: YCharts

[1:22] What is Reddit $RDDT and why is it interesting to Julian

[2:58] $RDDT bull case

[14:09] Network effects

[20:46] $RDDT bear case: when will they become profitable? What are they spending R&D on?

[30:45] Valuation

[33:48] $RDDT vs. tier 2 social media platforms (Pinterest, Twitter, SnapChat) / mismanagement

[45:27] Valuation cont'd

[56:53] $RDDT Growth strategy

[1:02:23] $RDDT's Biggest misperceptions

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Shomik Ghosh, Partner at Boldstart Ventures, joins the podcast for the second time to discuss his thesis on Kelly Partners (ASX: KPG / OTCQX: KPGHF), a specialist chartered accounting network established in 2006 to provide a better service to private clients, private businesses & their owners, and families.

For more information about Shomik Ghosh and Boldstart Ventures, please visit:https://boldstart.vc/

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Daloopa

[2:20] Who is Kelly Partners and why they are so interesting to Shomik

[5:31] What is Shomik seeing that the market is missing with Kelly Partners

[9:09] $KPG's secret sauce for rolling up accounting firms / incentive risks / back office secret sauce that $KPG can do that PE firm can't

[23:36] International expansion / is there enough growth runway of acquisitions

[30:27] Why not relist in US from Australia?

[37:10] Expanding into other areas outside accounting / AI tail risk

[46:49] Management

[52:13] Why are they so focused on McDonald's

[55:22] Final thoughts

[57:26] What does Shomik think would be the cause for the thesis breaking with Kelly Partners / how does Shomik look at fair value here

[1:02:24] Quick thoughts on Match Group

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Evan Tindell, CIO of Bireme Capital, joins Yet Another Value Podcast today to share his thesis on Airtel Africa Plc (LSE: AAF), a leading provider of telecommunications and mobile money services, with a presence in 14 countries in Africa, primarily in East Africa and Central and West Africa.

For more information about Bireme Capital, please visit: https://www.biremecapital.com/

Evan's Tweet thread on Airtel Africa: https://twitter.com/evantindell/status/1666503901229580291

Evan's blog post on his Airtel Africa thesis: https://www.biremecapital.com/cio-corner/airtel-africa

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Stream by Alphasense

[1:57] What is Airtel Africa $AAF.L and why is it interesting?

[5:55] $AAF.L mobile money business

[11:17] Spin-off IPO of mobile money business

[12:47] $AAF.L risks

[15:53] $AAF.L current valuation[20:15] Currency risk

[24:04] $AAF.L Political risk / history of nationalization / tax on mobile payments

[34:20] $AAF.L business model risk (being the T-Mobile in their markets

[37:37] Airtel Africa vs. MTN Group

[40:23] $AAF.L controlling shareholder - Bharti Airtel

[45:47] Understanding emerging market economies and price sensitivity amongst consumers

[48:56] $AAF.L product diversification risk

[55:33] $AAF.L "no one cares" valuation risk

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Vince Martin, Lead Analyst and Writer at the Overlooked Alpha newsletter, discusses the "Game of Thrones" style proxy fight happening at $CUTR. For more information about the Overlooked Alpha newsletter, please visit: https://www.overlookedalpha.com/

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Stream by Alphasense

[2:06] What is Cutera $CUTR - An Overview

[3:33] Cutera's acne products

[5:44] Sales strategy for acne products and how that panned out

[8:35] Understanding to potential stickiness for AviClear and comparables

[11:13] Proxy fight

[15:21] Dynamics between CEO and Executive Chairman

[21:40] Market response to board's decisions; specifically withdrawing 2023 guidance

[25:00] Unique gamesmanship

[27:44] More on withdrawing guidance; that could've been a tool for the board

[30:50] How two biggest shareholders seem to not support the board's decision to fire the CEO and Executive Chairman

[34:12] Executive Chairman's background; what's his angle and potential reasons for why he wants to become CEO

[37:56] Board of Directors' potential paths to winning

[42:50] How odd this proxy fight really is; as Andrew puts it, very "Game of Thrones"

[46:27] Most likely outcome of the $CUTR proxy fight

[48:03] Does every see a "golden goose" or value destruction?

[51:37] Closing thoughts on $CUTR and valuation Today's episode is sponsored by: Stream by Alphasense Are traditional expert calls in the investment world becoming obsolete? According to Stream, they are, and you can access primary research easily and efficiently through their platform. With Stream, you'll have the right insights at your fingertips to make the best investment decisions. They offer a vast library of over 26,000 expert transcripts, powered by AI search technology. Plus, they provide competitive rates on expert call services, and you can even have an experienced buy-side analyst conduct the calls for you. But that's not all. Stream also provides the ability to engage with experts 1-on-1 and get your calls transcribed free-of-charge—all for 40% less than you would pay for 20 calls in a traditional expert network model. So, if you're looking to optimize your research process and increase ROI on investment research spend, Stream has the solution for you. Head over to their website at streamrg.com to learn more. Thanks for listening, and we'll catch you next time. For more information: https://www.streamrg.com/

Jason Stankowski (Partner and Co-Portfolio Manager) and Brian Lancaster (Partner and Co-Portfolio Manager) from Clayton Partners join the podcast to discuss their thesis on Mattr Corp. (TSX: MATR), a growth-oriented, global materials technology company broadly serving critical infrastructure markets, including transportation, communication, water management, energy and electrification.

For more information about Clayton Partners, please visit: https://www.claytonpartners.com/

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Tegus

[2:10] What is Mattr Corp. and why are they so interesting to Brian and Jason

[5:23] When Jason and Brian look at Mattr Corp, what they think they're seeing that the market is missing that's going to lead to alpha generation here?

[10:57] Switching to US listing and what Jason likes about IFRS better than GAAP

[15:07] $MATR.TO comparison to TerraVest

[19:34] What's the secret sauce that doesn't make $MATR.TO just another commodity business

[26:45] Auto manufacturer vertical

[29:56] Growth runway

[34:05] How much is Mattr a bet on the business vs. management team for Clayton Partners / stealth AI potential here

[43:13] Q2 Earnings and conference call

[51:30] $MATR.TO final thoughts and capital allocation strategy

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Brian McGough, head of retail at Hedgeye, joins the podcast to discuss the state of the retail sector, hit a wide variety of names, and explain why he's so bearish on the sector currently.

You can find Brian on twitter here: https://twitter.com/HedgeyeRetail

This podcast is sponsored by Hedgeye. Hedgeye is an investment research firm that delivers high-conviction investment ideas through fundamental, quantitative, and Macro analysis. If you’d like access to Hedgeye’s favorite long and short stock ideas, check out The Call @ Hedgeye, their daily stock investing webcast featuring Brian and the entire stock analyst team. Go to Hedgeye.com/Value and you’ll get a special introductory price of just $6 for the first 6 months. Chapters 0:00 Intro 2:15 What is Brian seeing in the retail sector now? 7:15 What retail companies look undervalued? 13:40 Discussing ASO's growth story 20:50 Is Hibbett cheap enough to consider? 25:20 Being bullish RH and buying their stock when they're not buying back 29:15 Comping WSM to RH 32:00 Brian's bearishness on Pelton 37:00 Can Nike really generate alpha from current prices? 42:10 CPRI's valuation and possible SOTP 45:00 Helen of Troy could be in for tough sledding 47:50 What's Brian's crystal ball telling him about the next six months?

In this episode of Yet Another Value Podcast, host Andrew Walker welcomes back Adam Patinkin of David Capital for his third appearance—this time for a much-requested update on British homebuilder and regeneration specialist Vistry (RY). Adam originally laid out a bold thesis in early 2024 that Vistry’s transition to a pure-play partnerships business could mirror the NVR success story. But after a string of profit warnings and a collapsing share price, listeners wanted answers. Adam walks through what went wrong, why the company’s current valuation doesn’t match its fundamentals, and why David Capital doubled its position. The discussion probes management credibility, capital allocation, and how UK government policy is now aligning with Vistry’s strategy.______________________________________________________________________[00:00:00] Intro and sponsor message for upcoming AI & finance webinar [00:00:40] Andrew welcomes Adam Patinkin for a follow-up discussion on Vistry [00:01:29] Context and disclaimer before discussing UK-listed stock Vistry [00:02:18] Adam gives a quick overview and update on Vistry's journey in 2024 [00:02:58] Explanation of David Capital doubling their position in Vistry [00:03:59] The original investment thesis in Vistry: value plus catalyst approach [00:04:51] Breakdown of Vistry’s two segments: partnerships vs. housebuilding [00:06:58] Thesis: Transition to a pure-play partnerships business [00:08:34] Discussion on profit warnings and their impact on investor sentiment [00:10:13] Details of Vistry’s missteps and housebuilding write-downs [00:12:29] Analysis of the market's reaction to one-time losses [00:15:29] Third warning due to delayed land sales and management's response [00:16:34] Clarification of misunderstandings around ongoing losses [00:17:57] Adam frames the four-part thesis and which parts still hold [00:19:09] Reaffirmation of medium-term targets for partnerships [00:20:54] Discussion on pace of housebuilding exit and management's actions [00:23:34] Ongoing share buybacks and potential for expansion [00:24:37] Breakdown of customer segments in the partnerships business [00:26:19] UK government's budget and policy impact on affordable housing [00:31:14] Overview of supportive labor government housing initiatives [00:35:05] Cash flow expectations from capital employed reduction [00:36:29] Valuation commentary and mispricing opportunities [00:37:54] Assessment of credibility and investment upside [00:41:51] Discussion on net debt figures and transparency [00:43:40] Capital structure comparisons with other builders [00:46:21] Considerations around lower buybacks vs. future flexibility [00:49:10] Why Vistry still represents compelling value despite concerns [00:52:08] Differentiating Vistry from UK housebuilder peers [00:55:05] Clarification of the NAV not falling due to deferred land sales [00:57:21] Framing margin of safety by cash flows rather than asset base [00:59:54] Summary of company positioning, tailwinds, and outlook Links:Daloopa Webinar: daloopa.com/yavwebinarDavid Capital: https://davidpartners.com/See our legal disclaimer here: https://www.yetanothervalueblog.com/p/legal-and-disclaimer

Dan Day, CFA, Equity Research Analyst at B. Riley Securities, joins the podcast today to discuss the digital advertising business, SSPs and his thesis on Magnite, Inc. (NASDAQ: MGNI), the world’s largest independent sell-side advertising company (according the company's website). To get in touch with Dan Day, you can reach him via email here: dday@brileyfin.com

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Stream by Alphasense

[1:35] What is Magnite, Inc. (NASDAQ: MGNI) and why is it interesting to Dan

[8:57] Take rate on SSP's (effectively the bear case on SSPs)

[14:53] Adtech trends since early 2021

[19:11] Brand integrity - how much is that important amongst SSPs

[20:25] $MGNI valuation upside

[23:55] Programmatic recession vs. the stocks were overvalued in 2021

[25:48] CTV - what it means and how it works; why its important to $MGNI

[29:24] Who is $MGNI working with on CTV / competitive landscape

[32:55] $MGNI bear case on programmatic advertising - why don't publishers build out SSPs themselves? How are publishers thinking about building vs. buying SSPs?

[44:25] Anything missed on the Bull or Bear case for $MGNI / stock compensation

[50:07] Google antitrust case - what is the bull case for $MGNI

[59:24] Odds that Google loses this trial and/or splits out SSP

[1:03:58] One thing that market generalists miss regarding $MGNI

[1:08:26] Channel checks on media industry

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Alex Morris, Founder of TSOH Investment Research, returns to Yet Another Value Podcast for the fourth time to discuss his recent article, "Letting Winners Run."

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"Letting Winners Run" article: https://thescienceofhitting.com/p/letting-winners-run

Chapters:

[0:00] Introduction + Episode sponsor: Alphasense

[1:47] Letting winners run thesis

[6:23] Hindsight bias

[8:26] Cash flow considerations

[12:07] Selection bias

[14:36] Examples of the "Letting Winners Run" strategy (forever business vs. 5-year/20-year outlooks)

[18:55] How "Forever Business" in media has changed over the years

[21:46] Management

[26:07] Is there something unique about big tech

[29:08] Thesis drift + examples

[38:03] Knowing when to sell "forever business"

[41:56] "Beautiful Sunset" principle

[45:27] Dismissing banks an example of dismissing "letting winners run"

[51:06] Why "Best Ideas Funds" fall short

[53:40] Final thoughts and closing

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