Wilco Will Love You Podcast (Meredith Hobbs Coons, Mary MacLane Mellas)

• "Wilco (The Song)": the song in which the band  asserts they'll love us
• "Love is Everywhere (Beware)" in which the band asserts that love is everywhere - and to beware.
• This is the Neil Young song Meredith sings in this episode.
• Behold Neil Young's guitar: Old Black!
• Here's "Bright Leaves" if you've forgotten - or haven't heard - last week's episode.
• We quickly referenced "War on War" by Wilco.
• Here's that Men In Black scene we referenced (correction: the belt was the cat's collar)
• What is an Aeolian harp?
• Here's an Aeolian harp in action.
• Generational trauma is a thing.
• So is the Tom Waits interview in which he describes putting a mic on chicken as it's cooking.
• This is the Tom Waits biography with the Rain Dogs story
• And this is The Wilco Book.
• And this is the "Before Us" recording session video.

If you don't know The Autumn Defense, get to know 'em!

They're on Instagram, too.

As is Mr. Patrick Sansone himself.

He also has a website dedicated to his photography.

For context, here's The Art Institute of Chicago, beloved by both Mary and Patrick.

And here's the Albright-Knox Art Gallery (now shortened to AKG), also beloved by those two. 

Plus, some of John Pfahl's work can be found here.

• The star of the show: the "Everyone Hides" music video!
• "Love is Everywhere" will get its own episode soon, of course, but it's also the other upbeat song Mary mentions in this episode.
• There are some examples here of Pablo Picasso's skill in figure drawing, different from his later, more experimental work.
• The shamisen is a cool instrument, but it's not what Nels plays in this song. It's pretty clearly just a slide - but a real nice slide, of course.
• "Low Key" - the Tweedy music video the Mares love featuring Nick Offerman as an ape man and a whole host of other fun cameos (John Hodgeman, Michael Shannon, Mavis Staples, Chance the Rapper... whew!).
• Here's what a Divvy bike is for any non-Chicagoans.
• Maybe Lyft didn't originate in Chicago, but it sure is prevalent there.
• The Marina Towers, AKA the "Wilco Towers"
• Wrigley Field is a pretty historic ballpark and the Cubs play there.
• Pat Sansone pops into the Music Box Theatre in the "Everyone Hides" video - the Peter Sellers movie and Wilco album namesake Being There is on the marquee.
• A Beatles fan site wrote about their Rickenbackers.
• Here are the Beatles playing "Don't Let Me Down" during their famous rooftop concert.
• Apparently Paul McCartney has lost his very famous Höfner bass?
• Certain Sparks Lompoc: where Meredith bought her partner's McCartney style bass.
• Wikipedia's Beatles timeline lets you know when their last show was, when they broke up, and so much more.
• If you want to go down a Help rabbit hole... here.
• And here's a video of the great Jimmy Hendrix. Did you have a Hendrix phase like Mary?
• McCartney, the first solo Paul McCartney album, is musical comfort food.
• So is Ram.
• The Wilco guys running to get to their hiding spots reminded us somewhat of this clip from A Hard Day's Night (minus the being chased part).
• Here's a sad Ringo scene - his specialty in Beatles films.
• The Beatles had the best rooms in Help.
• Some details about the house where all of The Monkees lived together in their TV show.
• Next week's track: "White Wooden Cross"

www.trinidadescobar.com is where our guest's art and comics can be found

• Here's "One and a Half Stars," if you haven't listened already.
• Sky Blue Sky is good.
• Jason P. Woodbury's Pitchfork review of Ode to Joy.
• "Summer Noon" by Tweedy. Reminiscent of the bass part in "One and a Half Stars," no? Also, how cool is this video!
• "Quiet Amplifier" - we reference the drum sound in it. And listening to it is your homework for next week.
• We referenced The Wilco Book again, and quoted Glenn Kotche.
• Our conversation about online culture made me think of this book called How to Do Nothing: Resisting the Attention Economy by Jenny Odell, so I've linked it for you.
• Mary mentions Jeff's experiences with addiction detailed in his book Let's Go (So We Can Get Back): A Memoir of Recording and Discording with Wilco, Etc.

• We're talking about "We Were Lucky."
• Meredith and Mary aren't in quite the right headspace to properly appreciate this song, but for those who are, here's an article suggesting that listening to sad songs when in a bad mood can help people to emotionally regulate.
• Mary compared the structure of this song to that of the Beatles song "A Day in the Life," so here it is for you to enjoy.
• She also mentions two of her favorite Wilco songs that have stressful instrumentation. One is "Side with the Seeds" here in this video from the film Ashes of American Flags... 
• ...and the other is "Ashes of American Flags" itself.
• Here you go, folks: Orff instruments, as explained by a music education website.
• Remember "Before Us?" It was like a happy hike :)
• Here's a rattlesnake sound for you.
• The fact that Wilco can do a song like this and also an upbeat jam like "Love is Everywhere (Beware)" is great. And that exact jam is next week's tune.

• Cassandra's art is phenomenal, and you can see it in online form here.
• As she mentions, Mikael often takes photos that end up used in her work.
• You can also see how unbelievably cool Mikael and Cassandra's Pink Moment events are by checking out the info from "The Pink of the Moment," which took place in September of 2024.
• Here's a little more info about Mikael's Ojai-Fi event.
• And here is a collection of his other many projects.
• Here is the website for the Bob James documentary Mikael has been working on.
• Behold: The Taft Gardens, where Cassandra acts as  tour guide, Arts Chair, and the founder of the Art in Nature residency, an experimental and environmental arts program.
• Here is Cassandra's Instagram, and here is Mikael's. 

• Meredith was referencing "An Empty Corner" when she sang "You've got family out there." Did you catch it?
• Wilco is going back on tour, rescheduling a whole bunch of previously canceled dates, and here is their schedule. Also, did you know that there's a feature to request a song? Pretty sweet!
• The Tweedy Show has been the livestream highlight of the pandemic - you can watch all past episodes on the @StuffInOurHouse IGTV, but you can see them with comments preserved on YouTube.
• Here's the hundredth episode in which they adopted all of the clients, here is the union that has formed, and here is the Tweedy Show website with some of the merchandise they've sold for charity.
• Looks like Gary Louris of the Jayhawks livestreams through Patreon.
• Touring has started again, and it looks like Sue Tweedy is at least trying to bring Tweedy Show fans along.
• Here's an example of some of the stuff in the Tweedy house: this gruesome medical kit, mentioned as Susie's favorite thing in an interview she graciously granted Meredith.
• Take a listen to Nels's newest release!
• Here's Pat Sansone's photography book 100 Polaroids.
• And here is Pat's most recent production project, dedicated to its co-producer Josh Shapera who passed away in late 2020.
• Here's Meredith's Single Song Shows thing Mary mentioned. It's also on YouTube.
• John Stirratt's hotel Tourists Welcome looks cute, and we wish we could go there now.
• Jeff Tweedy's book How To Write One Song came out during the pandemic, and it is delightfully encouraging.
• Here is the Facebook Group called A Shot in the Arm full of kindhearted, welcoming folks.
• Here is our fellow Wilco podcast: Alpha Bravo Charlie, the Alphabetical Wilco.
• "Love is the King" by Jeff Tweedy, featuring Sammy and Spencer Tweedy, came out during the pandemic, too. (And it ended up on Barack Obama's playlist.)
• AZLyrics.com reflects George Saunders's contribution to "A Robin or a Wren."
• Sammy, Spencer, and Jeff Tweedy were all in the Lincoln in the Bardo audiobook. Look at this cast list!
• Here is Fox 8 by George Saunders.
• This conversation with Nick Offerman was very, very fun, and we're sorry if you missed it.
• Here's the Largo's Instagram account - Tweedy pal "Flanny" manages it.
• And here's the Conan episode of The Tweedy Show.
• A big thank you to our contributors: Portola Studios, Greta Stromquist, and Adam Nash.
• And a big thank you to all of YOU!

• First of all, don't sleep on Patrick Sansone's photography (a new book, Noticings is in the works, too) OR his new single: a cover of Colin Blunstone's song "Smokey Day." (The video and arrangement are both gorgeous).
• Pat mentioned the artist Joseph Cornell as an influence on his photography.
• Mary and Patrick are both big fans of these guys: The New Topographics. (This entry also links to Stephen Shore and Robert Adams, two other artists he mentions in this interview).
• Patrick hosts this awesome radio show Baroque Down Palace on WYXR (but you can listen here, too!)
• Here's the print version of the incredible story Pat shares at the end (he's quoted in it, too).

• We're talking about "Citizens" this time.
• Here's "Rime of the Ancient Mariner" by Samuel Taylor Coleridge, the Aeolian harp guy,  as performed the staff of the Wisconsin Maritime Museum, underwater archaeologists, marine scientists, and historians. (And Iron Maiden also fashioned it into a song.)
• The albatross is a big ol' bird. These guys at Lindblad Expeditions-Natural Geographic have a fun time showing everyone just how big it is.
• We mentioned Jeff Tweedy's songwriting process, and he happens to have a whole book about that called How to Write One Song.
• "High crimes" made us think of crimes on the high seas, and here's an article about The Outlaw Ocean Music Project, which seeks to partner journalists and musicians to do necessary reporting on such crimes.
• Speaking of Wilco and nautical themes, do you remember when Wilco did this song for the soundtrack to The Spongebob Squarepants Movie?
• Here's next week's song: "We Were Lucky."

• On this episode we discuss "Hold Me Anyway," and this Songkick Live performance of it is excellent.
• Is this song even better than "Love is Everywhere (Beware)?" It might be!
• Here's the urbandictionary.com definition of "guitarmony," so apparently the word exists beyond Adam Nash.
• Does this song harken back to Summerteeth? You be the judge.
• We were really scarred by "We Were Lucky," I guess, because we can't stop talking about it. This is the fan extended version to further scar us.
• We mentioned the call and response feature of this Beatles tune.
• We mentioned harmoniums, and harmoniums are cool.
• "That plastic bag is me."
• "I'm like a hologram."
• We talk a bit about negative self talk, so here's a video about it.
• Next episode shall be "An Empty Corner" (this version is from Songkick Live).
• Also, can't believe we haven't done this in the show notes yet, just for the fun of it, but here it is... "Ode to Joy."

Kestrels' LinkTree will lead you to all of their various websites and social media accounts

Kestrels' album Better Wonder comes out on Darla Records on February 14, 2025 (Aww!)

And here's the music video for the song "Lilys" from that very album

Don't forget! Chad's partner Norma was a guest on the podcast before he was the year she released the stunning album In Waves.

• Let's just say https://www.leroybach.com/ provides some excellent information on the man, including how to contact him for music lessons, which he is currently offering.
• (The lessons page, specifically, is here.)
• The Mares (plus other guests and listeners) are very big fans of his work on  A Ghost is Born, this track being a highlight.
• LeRoy has recently worked with Official Claire, and you can check her out here on Bandcamp.

Catch all of Morgan's various writings here: https://www.morganenos.com/writing

And check out the music he has released as Other Houses, too.

• Here's our song of the episode: "An Empty Corner."
• Meredith mentioned Chris Lambert's podcast "Your Own Backyard."
• Here's "Are You Listening?" - the song Paul Hobbs wrote about Meredith going away to college...
• and "I'll Miss You Then," the song he wrote when her brother went off to college. It's a whole genre.
• Here's the page of A Christmas Carol by Charles Dickens that features the quote Meredith mis-remembered.
• We briefly reflected again on "We Were Lucky..."
• and "Love is Everywhere (Beware)..."
• and "Hold Me Anyway."
• (And if you think those links just lead to the songs themselves, they don't! "We Were Lucky" leads to a fan-created extended version of the song, just to troll Mary and Meredith we suspect ;) ; "Love is Everywhere (Beware)" leads to a Nels & Jeff interview about the song; and "Hold Me Anyway leads to the Songkick Live performance in which Jeff mentions frequently ending shows on this song, which feels appropriate to us.)
• Find us on Instagram for updates.
• It's kind of like we're the kids leaving home... or are you the kids and we're the parents? Either way. Until next time... remember Wilco Will Love You, always.

• Because we keep sharing the same link to this song, and we've shared this song a lot, here's a live version of "Love is Everywhere (Beware)."
• We talk about Nels's riff being tricky, so here's a nice tutorial for you.
• Here's a video of the "Side with the Seeds" solo Mary mentions, posted by the company that made his  bridge.
• And while we're at it, why don't we just post the link to Nels's website. He's a talented man! Check out his non-Wilco work!
• Like "Everyone Hides" before it, "Love is Everywhere" is, as Mary said, "a classic good song."
• Like "Citizens," there is a rocking motion to this song.
• Breaking Bad is an example of a show that eventually thwarted the "I did it for you!" trope this song may be referencing.
• This, for those who don't know, is the Pokémon Bewear.
• Next week we have "Hold Me Anyway."

• Have a listen to our song of the day: "White Wooden Cross."
• A Chicago Tribune article about roadside memorials felt appropriate given Wilco's Chicago ties.
• Susan Miller Tweedy continues to battle cancer. This is her most recent update and the fundraiser is active as of 5/25/2020. Plus, the Leukemia and Lymphoma Society is always accepting donations. Please give if you're able.
• Jeff Tweedy talks about both of his parents, both no longer with us, in Let's Go (So We Can Get Back): A Memoir of Recording and Discording with Wilco, Etc., which we have referenced many times.
• The book Meredith mentions that includes a section on "troubles telling" is You're the Only One I Can Tell by Deborah Tannen - highly recommended.
• The albums Warm and Sukierae came up again in this episode.
• This video is called "Jeff Tweedy on the idea of the tortured artist," so it should be the one Mary was talking about.
• Van Gogh said, "To do good work one must eat well, be well housed, have one's fling from time to time, smoke one's pipe, and drink one's coffee in peace." This supports Mary's assertion that he did his best work when he was centered and healthy.
• Is the guitar Flamenco-y?
• Here are the lyrics to "White Wooden Cross."
• Here's the sound it makes when the bokoblins blow their horns (for the whole band) in Zelda: Breath of the Wild.
• "Citizens" is our next song.

• If you don't know the Jumble, now you know.
• Here's a nice article properly crediting Jeff for the invention of Spikeball.
• And here's a Wikipedia entry for Roundnet (basically Spikeball, but an entry that credits Jeff)
• Jeff was also a guest on this podcast (talking about Spikeball, of course).
• He helped found The Tweedy Show Client Union as well
• And here is Jeff's Instagram
• As well as Sue Miller Tweedy's, where all previous episodes of The Tweedy Show can be found

Jason P. Woodbury is a writer, musician, podcaster, and author of liner notes located in the Sonoran Desert. His writing has appeared in Pitchfork, Stereogum, the Los Angeles Review of Books and elsewhere. He produces podcasts and videos for WASTOIDS, and edits the eclectic online music magazine Aquarium Drunkard, where he hosts the weekly Transmissions podcast. 

Get yourself some tickets for Transmissions Live at PRS :: The Esoteric Sounds of Arthur Russell with Matt Marble

Here's Jason's project WASTOIDS, which looks rad.

Transmissions is the Aquarium Drunkard podcast that Jason hosts.

Check out, and subscribe to, Aquarium Drunkard here.

And here's the direct link to Meredith's interview with Karly Hartzman from Wednesday for that site.

• Here's the Slaughter Beach, Dog website
• And here's Jacob's previous band Modern Baseball, for a little context
• Jacob mentioned touring with Bonny Doon
• As well as Sun June
• And we chatted about that awesome Pops Staples record
• Plus talked a lot about Schmilco

For more Greg, go to this website.

Sound Opinions is Greg's music talk show podcast with Jim DeRogatis.

And they have a Patreon, too.

For even more Greg, you can check out this episode of fellow Wilco podcast Shoving Wilco.

• Here is Lynn's website. Lots to explore here.
• WanderWord  brought our friend Lynn to Solid Sound. He's even on the website, in the top left quadrant of their photo gallery!
• Lynn's band The Disposition released their album Requiem for the Living in 2012 and you can download it on their Bandcamp page.
• You can follow Lynn on Instagram, too.

• If you haven't listened yet, here's "Quiet Amplifier."
• The other Wilco song that features a present joint vocal (okay, so most of it is unison, not harmony like I said. So sue me!) It's a live performance, too - with Feist. Enjoy!
• Strumming a snare is a thing! I couldn't find the video of Levon Helm doing it on "I Shall Be Released," by The Band but this drum forum proves that I didn't hallucinate it.
• That Tom Waits snare detail was also from that Fresh Air interview shared on a previous episode's show notes.
• All twee drum wizardry speculation aside, this account is abundant proof that Glenn Kotche can do anything.
• We mentioned Jeff Tweedy's book yet again.
• We talked about the amazing song "One Sunday Morning" from The Whole Love.
• Well, look at that! A hearing aid can also be a "quiet amplifier." There's probably another meaning in there somewhere.
• "Everyone Hides" is next!
• And here's our humble Instagram page. Bye!

Check out Norma's website www.normamacdonald.com

She also has a Bandcamp page.

As well as a Linktree.

And here's her partner Chad's band on Instagram, if you want to give him a little love, too.

• Here's the link to The Loft's Facebook page
• And their amazing Instagram, where Mark posts incredible instruments regularly
• "Friendship" by Pops Staples, the song Mark says is the takeaway from his posthumous album, produced by Jeff Tweedy
• The album Mark was describing that Low recorded at The Loft is called The Invisible Way
• And Richard Thompson recorded Still at the Loft
• Mark was in this band, The Coctails
• And he plays in Eleventh Dream Day, too
• Mark talks about recording Free Range (Sofia Jensen)
• He also talks about Edith Frost
• And AZITA

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And you can learn from Larry himself right here.

Plus, here's his Portland, Oregon studio Jackpot!

• Subscribe to Spencer's newsletter, and keep up with all of his other goings-on, here.
• Get a copy of Mirrorsound! (And look at that! Vagabon is on the cover. They have a new album.)
• Here's the Tweedy Show website - Spencer mentioned being responsible for their merch and enjoying it very much.
• Avrom Farm Party is happening next week, and you can still get tickets (if you're seeing this before August 4th, 2023!)
• Acts Spencer plays/has played in: Liam Kazar, Case Oats, Henry True, Tweedy, Mavis Staples, and more!
• And, of course, listen to Wilco! Spencer would love it if you did!

• Todd Lazarski's article on The Bear's best season 2 needle drops.
• Hazel City is the band Tim loves
• Souldier guitar straps - check them out!

• Ode to Joy - album by Wilco
• Warm - album by Jeff Tweedy
• Neil Young Instagram post
• Neil can vote!
• Ashes of American Flags - Wilco  (not streaming, sorry)

Here's Meredith's interview with Annlie for SoundGirls

And here are her film/television credits (be impressed!)

Here's Devin talking plugins on his YouTube channel

And here's the link to Goodhertz and all of their fabulous plugins (including Tupe, which Devin mentioned in this episode)