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27 Feb 2022Committed to Questions01:27:22

To wrap up the third season, Lauren and Dave turn the mic on one another for a meandering chat through surf adventure stories,  common questions from listeners,  and their own answers to the central Waterpeople question about a time or experience after which you were never the same.

We'll be back with a stacked fourth season in May or June, full of fresh stories,  inspiring ideas, and plenty of laughs.

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20 Jun 2022Sam Bloom: Gravity & Buoyancy01:08:00

What happens when life calls you to face your fears? Surfer,  adventurer and mother of three Sam Bloom had to face that call after a 2013 family holiday went tragically wrong. 

Sam is a two-time world para surfing champion. She is the bestselling author of two books, and the subject of the 2020 film Penguin Bloom, starring Naomi Watts. Those three works detail the tragic accident that left Sam paralysed from the chest down, and the unexpected guest – an injured magpie in need of care --  who helped Sam rehabilitate and regain a deeper sense of herself again. 

Sam shares about her experience of moving away from brink of despair, navigating grief,  and how getting back in the water first angered, then buoyed her. 

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21 Jun 2022Welcome to Season Four00:55:40

Waterpeople is back with a fourth season of stories about the aquatic experiences that shape us, change us, and call us into this quirky  community of water folk across the globe.

This season we'll hear from 16 waterpeople - some globally renowned, others under appreciated -  and learn about the moments that changed everything.

In this episode we sit down for a catch up with our new sponsor this season Sunbutter Skincare. Founders Tom and Sacha talk us through why they, as a marine biologist and conservation ecologist, started a business, and how protecting people and the planet is embedded in every decision they make. We also dive into the sunscreen nitty gritty: physical vs. chemical barrier, nanoparticles, plastic packaging, and understanding what “reef safe” actually means.

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07 Jul 2022Tom Wegener: The Artisan's Way01:23:06

Unlike golf clubs and tennis racquets,  surfboards are still largely made by local artisans.               But, what sets the surfboard making industry apart from parallel industries? Why do local shapers still make boards?

Master shaper Tom Wegener examines this question -- and much more -- in his PhD thesis and book Surfboard Artisans: For the Love

"How can an industry which values passion over money be resilient and sustainable in a capitalistic society which has money as the primary value?," he asks, and goes on the elucidate how commitment to culture has made for an exceptionally resilient, even logic defying industry.

Tom started shaping and glassing in 1978 in his parents garage and is best known for helping to re-popularize old and ancient Hawaiian surfcraft, as celebrated in films like Thomas Campbell’s The Present, Nathan Oldfield’s Seaworthy,  Jack McCoy’s A Deeper Shade of Blue, and Cyrus Sutton’s Tom’s Creation Plantation.

What sets Tom apart as a shaper is his surfing prowess. Tom played an integral role in keeping the traditional logging approach alive when it fell out of fad, embarking in self-funded films like Ten Toes Over and Siestas & Olas, which Steve Pezman, of the Surfers Journal, reviewed as the “best surf travel movie since Endless Summer.”

With more than four decades of building boards under his belt, including homegrown timber crafts which exemplify a more  sustainable approach, Tom shares with us about the responsibility he feels charged with -- to pass along the knowledge he has acquired and share his journey as a relentless artisan.

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07 Jul 2022Tom Wegener: Part 200:33:30

Part Two of our meandering conversation with master shaper Tom Wegener talking the nitty gritty of board construction, how he almost got the call to be in The Endless Summer II,  experimenting with ancient techniques in the shaping bay and which mode of wave riding is stoking him out the most right now.

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Tom started shaping and glassing in 1978 in his parents garage and is best known for helping to re-popularize old and ancient Hawaiian surfcraft, as celebrated in films like Thomas Campbell’s The Present, Nathan Oldfield’s Seaworthy,  Jack McCoy’s A Deeper Shade of Blue, and Cyrus Sutton’s Tom’s Creation Plantation.

What sets Tom apart as a shaper is his surfing prowess. Tom played an integral role in keeping the traditional logging approach alive when it fell out of fad, embarking in self-funded films like Ten Toes Over and Siestas & Olas, which Steve Pezman, of the Surfers Journal, reviewed as the “best surf travel movie since Endless Summer.”

With more than four decades of building boards under his belt, including homegrown timber crafts which exemplify a more  sustainable approach, Tom shares with us about the responsibility he feels charged with -- to pass along the knowledge he has acquired and share his journey as a relentless artisan.

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29 Jul 2022Kshisya Tachanskaya: Gifting Good Days00:40:40

What if your homeland was suddenly the target of foreign attacks ? What would you do? 

Ukrainian Kshisya Tachanskaya fled with her two children, a few belongings, reluctantly kissed her husband farewell, and drove for a familiar coast -- some 4000km away (2500 miles). 

Kshisya  is part of Ukraine’s tight knit surfing community who enjoy the couple of windswells that the Black Sea delivers each year. Before she found surfing, Kshisya was a water skier, and later opened Kyiv’s CitySwell Club, and worked as a wake surf instructor.

Shortly after her arrival in Portugal, Kshisya got to work doing what she could to contribute: hosting GOOD DAYS Surf Camps for refugee families, now without community, homes or support.  More than 12 million people have been displaced from their Ukrainian homes, forced out by Russian attacks. 

Kshisya has received hundreds of applications for her Good Days Surf Camp sessions, and is seeking financial support to help cover the costs of providing free access to the week-long camps that include surf and skate lessons, but also ocean safety and literacy, food, psychological counselling, as well as yoga and meditation classes.

Her mission: to share the ocean’s healing with as many as possible. 

Head here to learn more or to gift access to ocean play to Ukranian families seeking refuge.


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09 Aug 2022Jack Johnson: Time, Dreams & The Heart00:56:45

In Greek myth, staring at the monster Medusa would turn mortals to stone; one needed a mirror to take the edge off.  Surfer, filmmaker and musician Jack Johnson reckons music and art can play a similar role in reflecting more digestible, less paralysing iterations of the ills and obstacles facing us all. 

Jack studied film at UCSB, and went on to make culture shaping movies like Thicker Than Water and A Broke down Melody. More recently, he’s a Grammy nominated artist, and founder of two charitable foundations  with his wife and business partner Kim, including the  Johnson Ohana Charitable Foundation, which supports and funds environmental, art, and music education, and the Kokua Hawaii Foundation, which provides experiential environmental education in the schools and communities of Hawaiʻi. 

We caught up with Jack as he prepped to release his eighth studio album Meet the Moonlight in June 2022 about Greek mythology, watching dragonflies,  balancing family and work, the function of the artist today and where style comes from — in both music and surfing. 

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26 Aug 2022Chelsea Woody: Cultivating Kinship01:21:27

For many, 2020 was the worst.  Chelsea Woody, a neuroscience nurse who moonlights as a Vans surf ambassador, is clear that it was “the worst year of her life.”

After getting COVID from work, and subsequently  experiencing  a painful loss, — while  witnessing the suffering of so many through the pandemic -  Chelsea wished (for the first time) that she’d chosen a different profession.

Parallel to the suffering both personal and all around her, Chelsea’s surfing career blossomed: she made the film Sea Us Now, and expanded the organisation she helped found, Textured Waves, interjecting the presence and prowess of black and brown female surfers into surf circles, and far beyond. The Textured Waves crew has since partnered with big brands like Adobe, Adidas, and were featured on a billboard in Times Square for a big bank.

Through her own surfing as an African American woman, and via her filmmaking and writings, Chelsea is creating fresh narratives that are rippling around the globe.

Listen in as Chelsea shares about learning to surf later in life, the colonial roots of hair straightening, and finding her limits during her first season on the North Shore. 

Chelsea’s latest film Night Crawler, handles the topic of surfing as otherworldly escape from shift work.


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03 Nov 2022Gwyn Haslock: First Lady00:37:22

Gwyn Haslock has nearly 6 decades of surfing under her belt. She was born in Cornwall in 1945, and is renowned as one of the UK’s original surfers. Gwyn holds many competitive surfing accolades, including multiple British National Champion titles.

We first heard about – and wrote about  -- Gwyn’s story in 2015  after connecting with English bellyboarding enthusiast Sally Parkin, who said: 

“I am not sure who you would say started Men’s competitive surfing – but there is no doubt in my mind that Gwyn Haslock started women’s stand up surfing in England – she entered the first ever British National Championships in 1966 – she was the only female competitor and it was because of her that the surfing organisers started a Ladies National Championship in 1969 – there were six competitors and Gwyn won. She went on to win the first ever GB Ladies surfing championships in 1970, 1971, 1972 1973 and 1974 – came 2nd in 1975 and won again in 1976 – she also won the English Surfing Championships in 1990.”

Gwyn joins us for a lighthearted chat about surfing beyond retirement, being happily unmarried, and staying fit for surfing.




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03 Nov 2022Karina Petroni: Gumption01:28:52

What happens when you lose it all? After a successful, 14 year professional surfing career, Karina Petroni discovered that all of her earnings and assets had suspiciously vaporised.

Karina was born and raised in the Panama Canal Zone, but is known as one of The East Coast's surf prodigies.  In 2006, the  New York Times called her one of the “scions of Florida's recent surfing tradition."

Karina’s promise for professional surfing, combined with her family’s investment in managing her career, was so great that she was earning a living from surfing as a ten year old. Karina went on to compete on the World Championship Tour for more than a decade, holding the top spot on the leaderboard for a spell in 2008, and in 2009 Karina featured in the Academy Award winning documentary The Cove.  

Karina now happily resides in the Caribbean with her husband Dave, where she sails, surfs, freedives, and assists with marine salvage operations. 




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09 Nov 2022Andy Ridley: Crowd Power00:50:00

Most conservation organisations mirror corporations in structure, operation, and strategy. But has that been effective?

Andy Ridley, founder of Earth Hour and Citizens of the Great Barrier Reef, doesn't think so. He's asking how we build the 21st century conservation operation with the citizen at its heart. 

"The traditional way of doing conservation is 'pass us your money and we'll go and do it.' But we know that hasn't worked at the scale required." 

Andy is betting on harnessing the power of citizenship -- the rights AND responsibilities of belonging -- to create mass engagement in environmental initiatives. 

And he's been successful. Andy's Earth Hour concept — which asks everyone with electricity to simultaneously turn off their lights for sixty minutes  to acknowledge the impact of climate change and our ability to influence that change --  is recognised as one of the largest mass participation movements in history, with hundreds of millions of participants around the world.

Andy’s newest platform is Citizens of the Great Barrier Reef, which serves as a way to engage people all around the world in the future of the reef through citizen science.




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23 Nov 2022Nathan Oldfield: Breathing Room01:11:53

Nathan Oldfield has journeyed into the depths of grief, and back, to make surf films brimming with reverence for the extraordinary beauty of life.

He has crafted six award winning films, most recently The Heart & The Sea, and The Church of the Open Sky, which  earned the Special Honor for Most Heart at the Xpedition Film Festival in Colorado. 

Nathan is also a poet and meditation teacher, and parallel to his creative life,  has spent 25 years as a school teacher. 

He spoke with us about losing his daughter, Willow, how to 'stand' in love, his favourite method for keeping water off the lens port, and being on the precipice of making his next film. 



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23 Nov 2022Bonus: Guided Meditation with Nathan Oldfield00:15:00

Following on from our full length episode, Nathan Oldfield shares about his decade-long relationship with practicing  and teaching meditation, and talks us through a short guided meditation that he offers to school children.




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14 Dec 2022Jock Sutherland: Muscle Memory01:08:31

In early 1970, Jock Sutherland enlisted in the U.S. Army to fight in Vietnam. At  that time, he was considered amongst the most visible and versatile surfers on the planet. The surfing world was shocked; and so was his mother. 

Jock never made it to active duty, but spent two years in the service, after which he was rarely included in surf media. 

In 1989, Jock was busted for running cocaine and spent two years in prison.  

In his complexity and cleverness, Jock Sutherland has held an iconic position in the surfing community – a kind of hero’s hero – for his pioneering approach to tuberiding and switchoot surfing in waves of consequence.

Jock grew up on Oahu's North Shore and is the son of adventurer Audrey Sutherland, author of several books including Paddling My Own Canoe, who lived by the motto "Go Simple, Go Solo, Go Now."

Continuing in the slipstream of his mother’s daring, Jock went on to become a defining surfer of the 1960s. 

He claimed the cover of SURFER MAG in 1966, won the 1967 Duke Kahanamoku Invitational, and was featured in nearly a dozen surf movies, including Pacific Vibrations

"We used to call him 'the Extraterrestrial,'" fellow surfer Jeff Hakman later said, "because he was so good at everything. He could beat anyone at chess or Scrabble; he could smoke more hash than anyone, take more acid, and still go out there and surf better than anyone."

Jock talks us through the highs, lows and the middle ground where he is currently anchored in service and surfing. 



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21 Dec 2022Peggy Oki: Artful Activism01:29:51

As a member of the Zephyr skateboard team in the 1970’s -- made  famous by the documentary Dogtown and Z Boys --  Peggy Oki was at the top of the women’s skateboarding world while pioneering the vertical skating movement alongside the DogTown crew of Jay Adams, Tony Alva and Stacey Peralta,  as the lone Z-Girl.

Peggy is a surfer, skater, rock climber, and visual artist who has adventured between these creative expressions for more than fifty years.  Parallel to living an adventurous life by way of stone and water, Peggy has become a tireless activist for the wellbeing of all beings.

Her Origami Whales Project, an installation of 38,000 cascading paper whales, was recently showcased at The Smithsonian Institution. Peggy began the project in 2004 to raise awareness about the potential re-emergence of sanctioned commercial whaling. That number – 38,000 --- represents the approximate number of whales killed since the International Whaling commission’s moratorium on whaling in 1986. 

We caught up with Peggy as she made her way down the Australian coast to chat about adapting surfing for concrete,  the inspiration of Sadako Sasaki's paper cranes, the importance of mindset in injury, and the projects currently capturing her imagination.



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07 Feb 2023Rick Ridgeway: Wild Life01:08:39

How will we choose to spend this one wild and precious life? Rick Ridgeway has devoted his seven decades to adventuring  Earth's widest seas and tallest peaks -- and working to protect the wildness that remains.

Rick's  earliest adventures were oceanic – sailing and surfing – but he’s recognized amongst the world’s foremost mountineers.

In 1976 he joined the American Bicentennial Everest Expedition, and in 1978 he and three others made the first American ascent of K2 – the second highest peak on Earth—they were the first team to do it without oxygen; Rick made the first documented traverse of Borneo; the first crossing on foot of a corner of Tibet so remote no outsider had ever seen it – these amongst many other adventures far off the beaten path.

For 15 years, Rick was the Vice president of Environmental Affairs and then VP of Public Engagement at Patagonia. He is an accomplished filmmaker and the author of seven books, most recently the memoir Life Lived Wild

Listen with us as Rick talks us through surviving an avalanche, the most important baseline to understand when it comes to tracking climate change, what he hopes to impart to his grandchildren, cultivating a forty year marriage, embracing the pain of loss directly, and recognising the summit as a false goal. 
 
The  arc of Rick's life’s work --  from stretching the possibilities of human physical capacity toward using adventure sports and expeditions for Earth care and repair -- is a constant inspiration for creatively harnessing our particular passions for greater good.   


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20 Feb 2023Laola Lake Aea: Maka'ala00:55:01

Lore of the Waikiki Beach Boys is well known – those legendary Hawaiian watermen like Duke Kahanamoku and Rabbit Kekai who regulated the turf of one surfing’s most fabled beaches. But where were the wahine ?

Today we’re in conversation with original Waikiki Wahine Beach Boy Laola Lake, champion outrigger paddler, surfer and ocean safety advocate. 

Laola grew up in the ocean front cottages of the Royal Hawaiian hotel, where her mother worked, and received her Waikiki Beach Boy license in 1970. She helped found the Hawaii women’s Surfing Hui, which was part of opening the door to the formation of women’s professional surfing.

Laola lives and plays on the island of Kauai with her family. In 2020, on the eve of turning 70, she became the first female president of the Kauai Lifeguard Association.

She shares about riding redwood boards, the origins of her passion for water safety, parenting regrets (her daughter is Sanoe Lake, of Blue Crush notoriety), and finding  a way to stay in the water, no matter your age or ability. 


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06 Mar 2023James Nestor: Shut Your Mouth01:10:49

Is your mouth open or closed right now ? There is nothing more essential to our health and well-being than breathing: we take air in, let it out, and repeat 25,000 times a day. But most of us have forgotten how to do it properly.

Journalist, aquanaut, surfer and author James Nestor's latest book BREATH: the New Science of a Lost Art  explores the million-year-long history of how the human species has lost the ability to breathe properly and why we’re suffering from a laundry list of maladies—snoring, sleep apnea, asthma, autoimmune disease, allergies—because of it. He travelled  the world in an attempt to figure out what went wrong and how to fix it.

 James has written for Scientific American, Outside Magazine, the BBC, The New York Times, The Atlantic, and more.

His first book, DEEP: Freediving, Renegade Science, and What The Ocean Tells Us about Ourselves , made waves in the freediving world as James adventured  with extreme athletes, adventurers, and scientists as they plumbed the limits of the ocean's depths and uncovered weird and wondrous new discoveries. 

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08 Jun 2023Rusty Miller: Surfing Through Life01:36:03

What's possible in the eighth decade of life?  Rusty Miller will be 80 this year - and he's still rocking off at Lennox Point and taking off on the best set waves. 

Born in Southern Californian, Rusty was the 1965 United States Surfing Champion. He moved to Byron Bay Australia in 1970, where he has since lived, surfed, taught, and written about surfing -- and been an integral member of the community. 

Rusty was amongst the first surf travellers to venture to Sri Lanka, Lebanon, Israel, Egypt and Portugal in the mid-1960s. In 1971, he was featured in Albe Falzon’s iconic film Morning of the Earth.

 In 1973 Rusty started the North Coast region’s first alternative newspaper, The Byron Express, and has been printing an annual magazine - Rusty’s Byron Guide–  since 1984. It offers a practical and philosophical introduction to the Byron area.

 In 2012, Rusty co-wrote his first book Turning Point: Surf Portraits and Stories From Bells to Byron 1970-1971. Then came Turning Point II: Surf Portraits and Stories Hawaii: Oahu-Kauai-Maui 1968-1972. Both of which were collaborations with his partner, social  geographer Trisha Shantz. They have two daughters, Taylor and Courtney.

Rusty continues to share his ample surfing wisdom through his school – Rusty Miller Surf.

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08 Jun 2023Belen Alvarez Kimble: Watch Me01:33:18

When was the last time you refused to take 'no' for an answer ? Belen Alvarez Kimble shares about the life-changing instance when she pushed against cultural norms and expectations to lay down her life's path. 

Belen occupied one of the very few positions as a professional freesurfer through the early 2000s and worked with surf brands as an ambassador for unifying women’s surfing around the globe. She stands amongst the longboarding icons of the Blue Crush era that saw the resurgence of women to the line-up.  

Belen grew up in a traditional Mexican household in southern California, her mother a first-generation immigrant from Mexico.

Belen now resides in Northern NSW, where she is the owner and operator of Salty Girls Surf School.

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21 Jun 2023Chris Del Moro: Lead with Deeds01:40:01

With gender norms up in the air, what does it mean to be a dad today? For Chris Del Moro, it means showing up for it all - good, bad, and messy -  and maintaining stability for his family. 

Chris is an artist, surfer and devoted father to his two boys. He shares about the pivotal experiences with his own fathers and mentors that shaped him into the steadfast man he is today. 

Chris spent more than a decade as a professional freesurfer, featured in movies including "Sliding Liberia, "The Present”  and the biographical Bella Vita by Jason Baffa, which explores his Italian heritage and the blossoming culture of Italian surfing. Chris has also worked closely with environmental organisations, like Surfers for Cetaceans, combining art and activism to help protect wild species and spaces. 

Chris is now the co-owner of Baghsu Jewels, with his wife Madgi, and is the Creative Director for Drifter Surf in Bali.  

 At the time of recording, they’ve been traveling the Southern Hemisphere for nearly a year with their two boys Marley and Bodhi, aged 7 and 4. We caught up with Chris during the 3-month leg of their Australian adventure. 

 Chris talks us through why he said ‘no’ to professional surfing, growing up amongst LA’s South Bay legacy of watermen, the rite of passage of life guarding,  the deeper purpose that activism brought to his surfing and art, and cultivating the under appreciated virtues of service, responsibility  and staying centered - so that we can bring our best selves to our families.

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07 Jun 2023Season 5 Trailer00:13:07

Welcome back for the 5th Season of The Waterpeople Podcast.

Listen in as Dave and Lauren turn the mic on one another and get set for 16 fresh episodes of ocean-centric storytelling.

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06 Jul 2023Elizabeth Nguyen: Ancestral Stream01:16:26

“Each of us occupies a singular ecological niche in the web of life that is uniquely ours, and when we restore ourselves to health and vitality, we contribute to the health and vitality of our entire planet.” Such is the philosophy of psychiatrist and surfer Dr. Elizabeth Nguyen.

Dr. Nguyen specialises in cross cultural psychiatry, the intersection of spirituality and mental health, and the healing power of water. She coined the term ‘human ecological restoration’ to describe the work she does to help her patients “clear out” psychological debris from trauma, both personal and ancestral.

Elizabeth was born and raised in Honolulu, Hawaii. Her parents were refugees from Vietnam, who arrived in Honolulu in 1975, at the end of the Vietnam War

Dr. Nguyen recently released her first novel Aloha Vietnam.

We caught up with Elizabeth remotely to talk about her insightful book and her medical practice, specifically the practice of prescribing water as medicine.



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24 Jul 2023Felicity Palmateer: Nature’s Course00:58:13

If you only had 10 healthy years left of life, would you choose to know it ?

Big wave surfer Felicity Palmateer is known for her paddle-ins at Peahi, commentating WSL events, starring in Australian Survivor (twice) and holding the record for largest wave ever ridden by an Aussie woman.

Parallel to her successful surfing career, Felicity has navigated tumultuous familial seas.  She talks us through losing her mum to early onset dementia in 2021  — her 50/50 chance of inheriting the gene mutation that causes it - and how grief and loss have inspired her over the ledge at some of the worlds tallest and heaviest waves.

Tune in to hear about Flick’s time playing Survivor, the state of inclusivity in surfing, why she transitioned from pursuing the Tour to chasing heavy water, and her recent marriage to a childhood friend.



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09 Aug 2023Lewis Arnold and Chris Nelson: Neoprene is Toxic01:17:49

What do neoprene  wetsuits have to do with Cancer Alley ? 

The global wetsuit industry is valued at around $2.8 Billion USD.

"The vast majority of wetsuits on sale today are made of a synthetic rubber called Neoprene. Neoprene – the commercial name for chloroprene rubber – is the product of a toxic, carcinogenic chemical process.

There is only one chloroprene plant in the US. It is owned by Japanese chemical company Denka and lies in the predominantly black, low income town of Reserve, Louisiana – in the heart of an area known as Cancer Alley. Rising from the site of a former plantation, the Denka chloroprene plant casts a long shadow over St John’s Parish.

No home in the community around the plant has been untouched by cancer. It has the highest cancer risk in the USA – 50 TIMES the national average. The EPA acknowledges the high cancer risk is due to chloroprene emissions from the plant."

In their forthcoming film The Big Sea, Lewis Arnold and Chris Nelson take us to Cancer Alley in Louisiana to hear from local activists who have spent decades fighting for the health and safety of their community.

The Big Sea is an exploration of the toxic nature of wetsuits, the true human cost of Neoprene production and surfing’s links to Cancer Alley.

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23 Aug 2023Moana Jones Wong: Awakening01:09:12

Can a single wave really change your life? For Hawaiian waterwoman  Moana Jones Wong, one wave changed everything.  She shares about the fated, sparkling bomb at Pipeline that altered both her sense of self, and her surfing career. 

Moana made history by winning the first ever Women’s Championship Tour event at Pipeline.  As a North Shore local, she cut her teeth in heavy water, earning her the title  “Queen of Pipe.”

Moana was also the first to earn a bachelor’s degree in  Hawaiian and Indigenous Health and Healing. She co-stars in the Prime Video series  Surf Girls Hawai’i, which follows the next generation of Native Hawaiian female surfers as they navigate competitive surfing. 

Moana also talks us through traditional Hawaiian concepts of health and well-being, wave riding as a healing modality, and outgrowing her dreams of surfing Pipe like a guy.  



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19 Jul 2019Kimi Werner: Flipping Your Instincts01:01:28

At the height of her competitive spearfishing career, Kimi Werner began battling with inner demons that turned the once-solace of the ocean into a cacophony of self-criticism. Kimi’s is a story about attaining dreams, losing love, wrestling with dissatisfaction and, ultimately, finding love again in the deep.  

Our conversation dives into reckoning with fear, flipping your instincts in heavy water situations, and the beauty of knowing where your food comes from. 

 Kimi Werner is a former U.S. National Champion spearfisher, a freediver, and chef. 

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24 Sep 2023Flora Christin Butarbutar: Kampung Life01:07:08

Around 500,000 people were displaced by the 2018 earthquake that rocked the island of Lombok in Indonesia. It was estimated that 80% of all structures were levelled on the North of the island.

At the time, Flora Christin Butarbutar, then in her early 20s, had taken up surfing on the Island of Bali. Originally from Sumatra, Flora was shaken by the need for help on the neighbouring island of Lombok. She put her budding surfing life aside, and harnessed her social media notoriety as Indonesia's first competitive female longboarder to garner aid for those in need on Lombok. She helped to build around 200 family homes there.

Perhaps because of her late start to watery life, Flora has become a leading light of surfing in Indonesia - and beyond. She hosts Flora Retreats in Bali.

We sat down with Flora in Bali and she talked us through the challenges of growing up in Sumatra, quitting her stable job to travel, finding surfing in her 20s, and her kampung life on Java, where she loves to give her homegrown vegetables to the neighbours.



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21 Oct 2023Christian and Ka'ale Sea: Many Beginnings02:00:25

Many of us dream of laying roots in some balmy, wave-rich location far from where we sprouted - to grow food and let the ocean dictate the day. Few of us do it.

Christian and Ka'ale Sea have spent the last 21 years together - surfing, diving, planting, growing a family. They have three daughters, all homeschooled on the remote West Coast of Sumba Island, Indonesia, where they own and operate Ngalung Kalla retreat. 

Christian started life in the Atlantic, on the 48-foot wooden sailboat his father rebuilt. Launching from their homestead on St. Thomas, Christian chased waves in Fiji, Tahiti, New Zealand, Hawaii and Australia before settling on the Big Island of Hawai’i, where he earned a degree in Marine Science and eventually worked up the nerve to ask out Ka'ale. 

Bree Ka'alemalu Sea - Ka'ale  for short - is a surfer and dive instructor who was homeschooled on the wild Puna Coast of the Big Island. In her late teens, she took off to explore the wider world spending time elsewhere in Polynesia, Thailand, India, Nepal and Indonesia. She eventually settled back on the Big Island where she studied Hawaiian culture and, together with Christian, nurtured a rustic homestead and put permaculture principles to practice in the jungle.

They spent ten years as the in-house waterman and woman at one of the best hotels in the world before packing up their truck to camp on the land that is now Ngalung Kalla Retreat. Over the past decade they’ve established flourishing food gardens to help feed visiting adventurers, and have built a collection of cliff-top Sumbanese guest houses to share. 

Together, they've had many beginnings, most initiated by their commitment to the water. Listen in to hear about their experiments in systems thinking, remote parenting, and building spaces that keep us present. 



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17 Jul 2019'Overcoming:' Live at Byron Bay Surf Festival 201901:06:23

Stories of triumph, challenge and the sea, brought to you live from Byron Bay Surf Festival. Listen as five brave waterfolk share their real and raw stories of overcoming or being overcome: finding surfing later in life, realising purpose after a life changing injury, living with cancer, searching for an unknown family member, wrestling with the death of a parent – and finding the dark humour.  The ocean buoyed them amidst some of the most tumultuous experiences of their lives. With live musical performances by Dusty Boots Music & Felipe Baldomir. 
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18 Nov 2023Tom Carroll: Under the Lip01:24:54

A little fire can keep you warm; a big fire can burn your house down. 

Two time ASP World Surfing Champion Tom Carroll speaks candidly about his struggles to harness the power that made him famous. From the highs of professional surfing to addiction and meditation, his large life is a study in harnessing and honing one's power in mind and body. 

Few surfers ever perform a wholly memorable maneuver . Tom broke down that norm in 1991 when he threw down a turn under the heaving lip of Pipeline - "a move that was so beautiful and so grotesque" that it is still recalled as "one of the boldest moves ever pulled in pro surfing.

Tom excelled competitively on the World Championship Tour for 14 years, finishing in the top 5 nine times, winning 26 events and earning surfing’s first million-dollar sponsorship contract. As a three-time Pipe Masters Champion, Tom is often considered the performance bridge between Gerry Lopez and Kelly Slater. 

Today, Tom is recognized as a teacher of meditation and wellness. He spoke with us about his sobriety, the "sharing wave" competition format, fathering while on meth, learning to listen and the absurd list of injuries he has endured as an elite athlete. 

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26 Nov 2023Tyler C. Wilde: The Missing Piece01:09:07

Have you ever felt like something was wrong, but you weren't quite sure how to name it?

Tyler Wilde is a teacher and bodysurfer from southern California. In 2017, Tyler won the prestigious International Surf Festival bodysurfing contest and was later voted into the Gillis Beach Bodysurfing Association as one of their youngest members.

As a physical education teacher, his goal is to help his students "feel more embodied."

Tyler went through a lengthy bout with depression and anxiety, and like many of us, he struggled to pinpoint the underlying causes. Getting back to the ocean helped - he says that "bodysurfing saved his life."

But it was supporting one of his  students through their own reckoning with embodiment, and their gender transition, that helped Tyler to understand that he, too, was a trans person. He learned a new language that helped to unlock some of what he was feeling and helped him to finally envisage a healthy future for himself, as his true self.

Tyler's story is documented in the film Gender Outlaw (watch it here), which chronicles the role bodysurfing played in his gender transition.

He talked us through bodysurfing binaries, finding his community in an unexpected place, the joy of love, and bringing kindness and compassion to complex conversations.

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Tyler's recommended resources for gender inclusionary insights, support and education:

@translifeline is a peer support and crisis hotline for the trans community

@trevorproject is a suicide prevention hotline for the LGBTQ+ community

@pinkmantaray Schuyler is a wonderful resource for people who are trying to learn more about trans people and specifically trans athletes

@alokvmenon - love their educational work

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17 Jul 2019Introduction to The Waterpeople Podcast with Lauren L. Hill & Dave Rastovich00:28:44

On The Waterpeople Podcast, we're delving deep into the intricacies of how the world's most adept waterpeople make lives of great meaning through meaningful play. In this episode Lauren L. Hill and Dave Rastovich elucidate the the 'whys' of making the podcast, reveal about their highlights from Season One, and welcome you to their watery world. 

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18 Dec 2023Pacha Lina Luque Light: Learning the Language01:41:32

Raised on a diet of deep ecology and the DIY spirit of her single mom, Pacha Light earned her first surfboard busking as a tween. She then forged her way into professional surfing as a teenager on Australia’s Gold Coast: signing a big endemic sponsor,  training every day, and making a name for herself as a competitor and surf model. 

Until she couldn’t do it any longer. She felt she was not fully in alignment with her values.

Still, along the way, Pacha found her storytelling voice, bringing depth and meaning to her surf travel by  weaving in local social and environmental projects wherever she went. Her three part Women of the Sea  series dove into the rich aquatic cultures adjacent to surfing in Japan and South Korea

Now in her early 20s, Pacha talks us through what led her to say “thanks, but no thanks” to her long-time surfing sponsor. She shares about  the search for belonging after her father’s passing, vying for a spot in the Olympics, and “understanding that we are called to be a part of the Earth protecting itself.”

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28 Dec 2023Stu Nettle: Voice & Vertigo01:13:30

Injuries are mostly out of our control. But recovery offers many choices. Will we allow the scar tissue to stiffen or soften us?

Stu Nettle is the editor of Swellnet, one of Australia's leading independent surf media and forecasting sites, where he has written about board design, surf industry happenings, surf science, and coastal geology since 2008. 

Stu is a lifelong surfer but late-comer to surf media. He “had many unrelated life chapters, business failures, social experiments, and surf adventures before he ever got a word published.” 

We first encountered Stu’s work amongst the lively pages of Kurangabaa, an academic – leaning surf journal he helped to found and run in the early 2000s. It was a trove of thoughtful essays, along with poetry, fiction and interviews – and part of a larger, exciting, indepedent DIY surf culture of that time. 

We wanted to know: what kind of life has shaped the voice and perspective of one of Australia's most prolific surf journalists?  

Stu talks us through the Sunset Beach hold down that changed him, the value of knowing our history,  gender politics at Swellnet and the the future(s) of surf media.


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02 Jan 2024Sally Parkin: Sell the House01:05:11

Are you investing in yourself and your curiosities? At 63, Sally Parkin sold her home to spend the better part of 2023 surfing in Australia with her family.

Sally is known for "single handedly"  reviving  the 100 year old tradition of English surfing on wooden bodyboards. She first surfed one at age 5, and decades later, when her family's quiver started to break, she realised there was only one local maker of traditional boards remaining.

She founded The Original Surfboard Company to both produce timber boards and to recover the lost art of English prone surfing. 

Joined by surf historian and shaper extraordinaire Tom Wegener, we met up with Sally on her tour of Australia, and she talked us through the logistics of reviving a nearly-lost art, researching the great novelist Agatha Christie's surfing adventures, and the joys of adaptive bottom contours. 

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17 Jan 2024Annie Ford: Adventurous Activism01:42:44

The loudest human-made sounds: Nuclear Bomb (224 dB), Rocket launch (204 dB). And clocking in at 260 underwater decibels is the seismic blast, part of a process for exploring for oil and gas in the ocean. Unlike bombs and rockets, however, seismic blasts "fire approximately every 10 seconds around the clock for months at a time."

For eight years, Marine Biologist Annie Ford worked onboard seismic blasting vessels, and felt the relentless explosions and reverberations from her bed at night. She has since peddled away from the fossil fuel industry and  become one of its most creative whistleblowers.

Annie is a mountain biking  world record holder and has spent time surfing and sailing around the world, including multiple expeditions to Antarctica.

Today, Annie is the National Campaign Manager for the Surfrider Foundation Australia, where she is currently working to halt the largest marine seismic blasting project ever proposed. It is slated to take place off the coast of her home island of Lutruwita (Tasmania) – and will emit some of the loudest human made noises ever created – to the detriment of an entire ecosystem.

We caught up with Annie as she completed a 4,000 km bike ride (that about 2,500 miles) to talk about endurance, optimism, changing careers, and her entwined commitment to kindness, climate action and adventure.

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31 Jul 2019Mark Healey: Confronting Discomfort00:47:36

Legendary waterman Mark Healey lost three friends to heavy water situations through the course of the early 2000s. He speaks candidly about the ways these experiences rewired his process of risk assessment, while maintaining his relationship with the water and his career as a professional risk taker: chasing big waves, free diving, spearfishing, shark tagging, bow hunting, and working as a Hollywood stuntman. 

Mark also shares about relying on instincts in heavy situations, the importance of being able to override the fear response through preparation, and asking the tough questions of yourself about the 'whys' of decision-making. Mark’s yogic approach to confronting discomfort inspires us to keep facing our self-built boundaries. He reminds us that without challenge, there is no growth.

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08 Jun 2024Torren Martyn & Aiyana Powell: Solo, Together01:36:15

Ever want to pack up normalcy and set sail over the horizon? What’s it really like to live at sea for a year and rarely be further than 35 feet from your new significant other?

Torren Martyn and Aiyana Powell talk us through the peaks and troughs of life aboard Calypte, a borrowed 35-foot sailing boat that they spent 12 months sailing 9,000-kilometres - from Pattaya in the Gulf of Thailand to Lombok, an Indonesian island east of Bali -  a journey chronicled in their new independent film Calypte

With little practical sailing experience, Torren and Aiyana learned as they went – how to be fisherfolk, navigators, meteorologists, and mechanics to take care of running repairs — and still found plenty of surf along the way. 

Torren and Aiyana talk us through the happenstance of meeting, their time aboard Calypte – the trials of trust and communication at sea— and their newest adventure – starting a family together.

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08 Jun 2024Sung Min Cho: African Aloha01:11:51

When is surfing about more than just selfish wave hoggery? 

Mozambique’s first professional surfer, Sung Min Cho, or ‘Mini’ for short, is writing a new story for surfing – he’s part of a burgeoning surf culture rising from the wake of three decades of armed conflict in the region.

 In 2018, Mini  co-counded Tofo surf club, Mozambique’s outpost of Surfers Not Street Children, which empowers street kids through surf coaching and mentorship. The effort has been funded in part by Pope Francis.  

Mini is on a mission to earn representation for his country in the Olympics — and spoke to us passionately about his love of surfing – not just for himself, but as a tool to lift up others, especially kids -- and as a lens for Mozambiqucans to write and tell their own stories in their own words. Stories about a nation brimming with natural beauty, resilient people and very good surf.

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09 Jun 2024Pauline Menczer: The Uncensored Underdog01:25:06

How to fund a pro surfing career in the 1980s? Sell stickers, Levi’s jeans, bicycles, whatever. Sleep in your board bag. Live on a diet of mushrooms and bread.  World Champion Pauline Menczer got resourceful and hustled however it took to get her to the next stop of the tour. 

“In the 80s and 90s, surf culture was toxic, especially towards women. Pauline was a dirt-poor, chronically ill teen from Bondi, who defied insults and intimidation to make a name for herself in the surfing world. 

When Pauline's determination propelled her onto the pro tour, her battle for acceptance and equality didn't end there. The endemic sexism of the industry meant prize money for women was a pittance, while sponsors ignored her because she was gay and didn't have the stereotypical surfer girl look that male marketing managers were after. Despite these challenges, Pauline became the 1993 World Champion and played a key role in bringing greater equality to the sport. 

Pauline recently penned a memoir called Surf Like a Woman. Through it we see clearly the unfairness of a sexist surf industry, and the rise of a modern surf shero who won the world title — and has made a life of sharing the gifts of a surfing despite physical, emotional and financial adversities. 

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23 Jun 2024Dr. Kevin Stone: How to Play Forever00:49:59

Why are some octogenarians still surfing, while others struggle to walk up the stairs? It isn’t luck.

Harvard and Stanford trained Orthopaedic surgeon Kevin R. Stone, MD, believes that injuries present as opportunities to better our athletic potential - they can make us fitter, faster, and stronger than before.   He is the author of Play Forever: How to Recover From Injury and Thrive.

Dr. Kevin Stone is a waterman and a world-renowned expert in biologic joint replacement. He founded The Stone Clinic and is Chairman of the Stone Research Foundation.

Dr. Stone has served the US Ski Team, the US Pro Ski Tour, the Marin Ballet, the Smuin Ballet, the Modern Pentathlon at the US Olympic Festival, and the US Olympic Training Center. His innovative work in the orthopaedic arena has led to multiple awards, publications, and grants and has resulted in approximately fifty issued US patents.

Dr. Stone talks us through a recent injury, the vulnerabilities of a surfing body, new paradigms of ageing, the remarkable regenerative capacity of our bodies, and why play should be part of every day.  


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06 Jul 2024Nidala Barker: Where We Belong01:36:57

“Whether or not you think you belong to the Earth is irrelevant, for you simply do. By virtue of breathing in you receive a gift of oxygen given by the tree and soil, by virtue of breathing out you gift carbon dioxide to the kelp so the fish may have their home. To accept our shared responsibility to the Earth, IS to remember our belonging.” – Nidala Barker

Nidala is a surfer, musician and custodianship educator. She traces part of her ancestral roots to the Djugun and Jabirr-Jabirr people of the Kimberley in Australia’s  North West, where she was initiated in lore and story. 

Nidala holds a Masters Degree in Sustainability, in addition to degrees in Public Policy and Social Justice Law. In 2021, she released a carbon neutral EP named Colours of my People.’ and sits on the board of Green Music Australia and The Returning Indigenous Corporation. 

Through her music and custodianship workshops, Nidala blends Indigenous wisdom with innovative scientific perspectives to remind us of our belonging to this world. Her work invites us to step bravely into our shared responsibility to protect country. 

Nidala talks us through the near drowning that saved her, how to acknowledge country meaningfully - and why, building a tiny home from waste, and what it means to step into custodianship. 


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15 Aug 2019Leah Dawson: Discovering Femininity00:37:03

Freesurfer Leah Dawson peels back the layers and dares to ask: "What makes me feel most like myself?" and "How is my surfing an extension of that self?"

There are many ways to be male, and many ways to be female. Though our culture is full of prescriptions for how to do it the “right” way. Leah Dawson thanks surfing for leading her along the path to honouring her femininity. Exploring retro-to-modern single fins, twin fins, finless boards, and shaping herself, Leah is among a small handful of surfers who seek to explore the spectrum of wave sizes and crafts.

Leah's is a story about asking the tough questions of ourselves, confronting societal expectations, the power of mentorship, and finding ourselves more fully within the context of a loving community. She also shares some of the wisdom from her daughterly experiences with legendary Gerry Lopez.

Leah Dawson is a professional surfer, filmmaker and co-founder of the Changing Tides Foundation, which empowers women and girls through travel and surfing.

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26 Jul 2024Brett Burcher: Deep Breaths01:08:32

What's the most challenging experience you've faced? Did it ultimately hinder or heighten your self-clarity?

Brett Burcher is a heavy water specialist - a slab hunter who chases the thickest waves to some of the most far flung locations. He was given an irrevocable invitation to learn to lay down, be still and breathe when he hit the reef and suffered a spinal cord injury in remote South Australia.

We wanted to talk story with Brett not only for his crazy stories of stretching the edges of his genre of wave riding, but also because he’s transformed the intense things that have happened to him into meaningful action to help others.

Brett is a former professional surfer, turned primary school teacher, who now shares his experientially honed breathwork skills through retreats and workshops
Brett also works as a disability support worker. He was recently in town to support surfer Cliffo Gralton — who competed at the Adaptive Surfing World Tour event held in Byron in March 2024.

We caught up with Brett between heats to talk about facing insomnia, training  the "Sunset  special" and getting into flow. 


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26 Jul 2024Levelling Breath Practice with Brett Burcher00:07:25

As a follow up to our episode with heavy water specialist Brett Burcher we wanted to share a couple of breathwork practices that Brett found most practical in his own life - whether he’s dealing with insomnia, or about to drop into a bomb set wave.

This is a levelling breath practice— not an upper or downer -- just a way to reconnect with a gentle balanced breath state. 

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26 Jul 2024Energising Breath Practice with Brett Burcher00:02:39

In this bonus episode slab hunter Brett Burcher takes us through an energising breath practice that he’s found useful when you need a little extra pep in your step.  

This is your reminder: breathe like you mean it. 

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14 Aug 2024Ruby Southwell: Natural Action01:18:38

Did you feel safe in your childhood home? If not, were you able to leave, or did you have to stay? 

Ruby Southwell hit the road, travelling solo for years, searching for guidance. What she found was a deep and clear inner well - and a renewed love for riding waves. 

At age 22, Ruby moved to Indonesia’s remote Mentawai Islands, where she surf guided, taught herself how to tube ride, and lived offgrid with a local family for just over two years.  

Ruby is known as a wildly talented navigator of weighty situations – both on land and in the water. Clips of her have been shared readily on social media – where you’ve probably seen her riding twinnes, pulling into big barrels, and displacing water in a distinctly feminine way. 

When "Big Surfing" came knocking about sponsorship, Ruby took the deal, but she also took the reins. With her content budget, Ruby defied the norms and made a short film about the Mentawai’s pioneering female surfer Siska

Parallel to wave riding, and now back in Australia, Ruby works to support at risk youth, with her sights on exploring the best of what her big island home has to offer. 

She shares generously about the joys and adversities that have shaped and are shaping her path forward: the life changing joy of a magic board, travelling humbly,  keeping an eye out for gurus in the Himalayas, and the only core surfer she's ever met. 

 

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30 Aug 2024Bob McTavish: Trim & Wonder00:57:56

Over the last half century, Bob McTavish has shaped thousands of custom surfboards. 

Always an innovator in surfboard design and technology, Bob pioneered cutting edge changes to the basic concept of a surfboard. 

In 1965,  he started tinkering with rail and bottom design to maximise performance. This was part of the movement that would become known as the shortboard revolution, in which Bob’s role was pivotal, but only part of his ongoing contribution to the evolution of the surfboard.

Now in his eighth decade, Bob continues to push the limits of surfboard design across the full range of wave-riding vehicles, including the shape that we focus on in this conversation – the 10 foot plus glider.  

After 5 years dormant, Bob brought his objective surf contest concept - The McTavish Trim -  to our local surf festival with three rules:

Rule #1 - Board must be 10ft+
Rule #2 - Furthest up the beach wins -- must hit the sand (paddle around the very wide  buoy) 
Rule #3 - Must stay on your feet

Surfing is full of old men who calcify and only speak of the good 'ole days.   Bob is not one of those guys -- he's still full of wonder and has made a career out of his wave riding curiosity.

We were lucky enough to sit down with Bob in front of a live audience at the 2024 Byron Bay Surf Festival in the parking lot of the McTavish factory - to talk all things glider, the surf/life balance, and how he has stayed perpetually stoked. 

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23 Sep 2024Hanneke Boon: At the Helm01:07:55

Did sailing have more to do with early human locomotion than the wheel? Hanneke Boon, head of James Wharram Designs, suggests that may be so. 

Born in the Netherlands, Hanneke grew up in a sailing family. She was building and sailing Polynesian Catamarans at the age of fourteen and joined the James Wharram team at the age of 20.

A gifted artist / graphic designer / craftworker, she became James Wharram's co-designer. For half a century, all Wharram Designs have been marked with her signature.

According to Yachting World, “Despite this unique pencil stroke, she has remained in the shadow of Wharram’s mythology for 50 years. Since 1970, Boon has drawn the majority of the construction plans by hand. They’re works of art and the best way to imagine yourself aboard a Wharram. Without her, JW Designs would not be what it is.” 

Of the Polynesian double canoe inspired designs - once called ‘dangerous and eccentric,’ James Wharram said:

“A philosophic attitude behind the Wharram designs is that 'urban man' can, with a little financial saving and some handcraft work, create an object of beauty. This object of beauty can then, for a period of hours, days, weeks or months, carry him/her out of the urban world into a natural never-never land; the seas and oceans; to a time when the world was young; when Mankind was directly and intimately interacting with the beauty and power of nature. There are hundreds/thousands of Wharram builders or, as I prefer to call them, "Sea People", who have done or are now doing that!" 

Hanneke has built, or taken part in building, more than sixteen Wharram designs, including developing many prototypes and the 63ft Spirit of Gaia - and is an expert epoxy worker.

She talked us through the simple joys of life at sea, the central role that sailing has played in human evolution and the near death revelation that set her a new course. 


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20 Oct 2024Josie Prendergast: Tidal Transitions01:08:08

Longevity in any career begs for reinvention. With more than a decade at the pro surfing game, Josie Prendergast has been navigating new waters in her career - by taking the reins on her own storytelling. 

Born in Siargao and raised in both Australia and the Philippines, Josie is a standout surfer on any craft – from 10+ gliders to fishes – and she’s expert at nasal navigation on heavy logs. 

We caught up with Josie for her first podcast experience between surfs in Byron – where she talked us through finding early commercial success in the surf industry, finding belonging between two cultures, surviving the Philippines Supertyphoon of 2021 and aiding her community to rebuild after the disaster.  

Josie’s latest edit Expressions of Interest is out now. It’s a film she produced with local filmmaker Georde Grigor as a tribute to the simple pleasure of wave riding and the special moments shared with friends in the water.

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07 Nov 2024Jamie Brisick: Breaking the Surface01:15:02

Who modelled kindness for you? Who showed you how to be kind and curious in the face of difference?

Before he was a Fulbright Scholar, Jamie Brisick surfed on the ASP world tour from 1986 to 1991, and has since documented surf culture extensively.

His writings and photographs have appeared in The New Yorker, The New York Times, and The Guardian. 

Jamie hosts the podcast Soundings and is the author of several books, including We Approach Our Martinis With Such High Expectations, and Becoming Westerly:  The transformation of surfing champion Peter Drouyn into Westerly Windina – which Jamie adapted for the screen. 

Jamie popped by after the World Premiere of his film The Life and Death of Westerly Windina at the Byron Bay International Film Festival  -- where it took home top honours as  Best Surf Film, as well as the festival’s highest recognition, Best Film

The Life and Death of Westerly Windina explores Westerly’s upbringing, her years as a surfing titan, and follows her into a new chapter as she searches for acceptance from friends, family, a still-hyper masculine sport, and most importantly – from herself.

We were grateful to sit down with Jamie to chat about the film, the fire that took almost all his earthly possessions, where tech is taking surfing, and the folks in his life who modelled curiosity and compassion. 



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01 Sep 2019Peter Whish-Wilson: Senator Surfer01:02:44

Peter Whish-Wilson walked away from a big shot banking career in NYC to honor a deep responsibility to protect wild spaces and species. He's now a surfing senator for the great, wild Australian state of Tasmania. 

What do we do when we've made life choices that make us miserable? Listen as Peter Whish-Wilson shares about the moments that changed his life and livelihood, inspired by the freedom and connection surfing revealed for him. 

Peter speaks candidly about internalising the stress of negotiating high stakes political situations, the power of the surfer’s circle as a symbolism and activism, and the necessity of community in pursuing political change. 

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19 Nov 2024Danny Johnson: Don't Overthink It01:12:53

We’re getting tangential. This episode is part of a three episode slip slide behind the scenes of a project that Dave’s been working on for the better part of 2024: The Electric Acid Surfboard test

It's a series that explores “alternative” surfboard design. Basically, iconic surfers on left-field, experimental surf craft. 

Our very own aquatic wombat, renowned question repeater, one David Rastovich, is this year’s test pilot.

It's no secret: the stuff we use to go surfing is pretty toxic. Neoprene, wax, swimwear, surfboards. Most are petroleum products in one form or another. Most are built with planned obsolesce in mind.

 So, what do we do about it?

Dave agreed to do the series with a catch: all the boards had to be wrapped in flax cloth instead of fiberglass; a prod to the makers and riders of surfboards that cleaner, or at least more durable, options for surfboard construction are already available.

Dave mostly signed on to the project because of its' mastermind: Danny Johnson.  His skillful storytelling and brilliant editing, hilarious musical moments make the episodes fun to watch - even if you aren’t that into surfboards. 

Today we’re in conversation with Danny – he’s Head of Films at Stab, and has been writing, producing and directing for years with the best sense of humour in the surf space.

We recorded behind the scenes episodes with two other influential characters in the series: flax master Gary McNeill and Puerto Rican tube connoisseur Otto Flores. 

You can watch the whole thing over at Stabmag.com 

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21 Dec 2024Otto Flores: Stepping Up01:04:06

Many professional athletes struggle to transition from their sport-as-career. The highs are often out of reach for pedestrian life - especially for pro surfers who spend their years in whirlwinds of hedonistic wave chasing.

For Puerto Rican tube connoisseur Otto Flores, the key to transition was community.

After many national titles and a spell on the World Qualify Series, Otto veered away from competitive surfing and toward chasing perfect waves of consequence, a decision that landed him on the covers of all the mainstream surf mags through the early 2000s. 

 Today, Otto is based on his home island with family, where he's  held in the highest regard for a community minded spirit and commitment to protecting Puerto Rico’s coastlines. 

In 2017, he lead a team with Waves for Water in the aftermath of Hurricanes Irma and Maria, helping set a course for recovery with an emphasis on sustainability. 

More recently, Otto was instrumental in working with Save the Waves Coalition to secure 8 kilometres of Puerto Rico’s  northwest as its 11th recognised World Surf Reserve. The World Surfing Reserves is a program of Save the Waves Coalition, which is a nonprofit focused exclusively on conservation of surfing coastlines on an international scale.

We caught up with Otto to talk about stepping into leadership, and the juggle of carrying many responsibilities – while managing  an abundant watery life. 

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03 Feb 2025Gary McNeill: Make It Last00:59:39

How do we make magic boards last longer?

Gary McNeill and Dave have been experimenting with alternative, non-petrochemical materials for the last decade. The front runner in their experiments? Flax cloth, for board strength and durability.

Stab recently ran The Electric Acid Surfboard Test, to explore the validity of their flax tinkerings.

This episode features the flax master himself, shaper Gary McNeill.

Gazza absolutely fizzes about all things board design. He's an accomplished competitive surfer and has worked as production manager and/or ghost shaper for some of surfing’s most well-known board brands. Today, he focuses his energy on making left of centre, high performance surfboards under the Gary NcNeill Concepts label. 

Gazza considers himself an 'accidental activist;' in the pursuit of good design, he cemented a more ethical business model. He hopes to help the board building industry mature beyond 'planned obsolesce.'

"As a result of growing up in humble surroundings, I have a full appreciation of the value of a dollar. In creating my Concept boards, I always strive to produce high-performance boards using materials that provide strength and longevity. 

I want customers to have a board that they can build a quiver around, that last, and that they know they can surf in the conditions that best suit them, and their boards. Importantly, boards that last reduce environmental impact."

We wrangled Gazza into sitting down for a whole hour to share more about his story, and the nitty gritty of experimental surfboard design and materials. 

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21 Dec 2024Lane Davey: Body Language00:58:09

How many kids from Tennessee end up devoting their life to the world's heaviest waves? At least one. That's Lane Davey: Pipe Disciple, PhD, journalist and college lecturer at UH Mānoa. 

Lane has dedicated much of her adult life to being present in the line-up at Pipeline – she was long the lone woman amongst the sword fight. We trace her unlikely trajectory from growing up in Tennessee, to breakdancing, and surfing some of the most notorious waves on the planet.

Lane talks us through the importance of acknowledging fuller histories of surfing, the role she’s played in creating momentum for women’s surf culture and performance, and the silver lining of living with her stage four cancer diagnosis.

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21 Dec 2024Gail Couper: With Bells On00:52:35

Called the "most underrated sports person in Australia" and the "greatest Bells surfer of all time”  Gail Couper has been both: at the centre and the sideline of surf culture and sport for the better part of her 77 years. She's seen a lot change, and helped to lay the foundation for Aussie surf culture as we know it today.

Gail is a five-time national champion, and 10-time winner of the prestigious Bells Beach/Djarrak event.  In the year 2000, she was inducted into the Australian Surfing Hall of Fame and awarded the Australian Sports Medal for lifetime achievement.

We had the privilege of sitting down with Gail in front of a hometown audience in Lorne as part of the The Great Ocean Road Women’s Surf Festival, to talk about  competitive drive, the value of volunteering, and helping to establish the world's first Surfing Reserve.


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23 Dec 2024Krista Comer: Reading Power00:47:32

How do you better a culture?  How do we better surf culture?

Dr. Krista Comer is a scholar of American literature and cultural politics. She has written widely about women and surfing as a way "to build bridges between university and community, or subcultural knowledges. Because we need each other to understand the worlds we inhabit, and to make better worlds. I need bridges to stay true to who I am, my own histories and hopes for the future."

Dr. Comer offers clarifying perspectives on the gendered realities of modern surf culture - and has been part of supporting surfers to create inclusive research, social movements and events.

Professor Comer teaches at Rice University in Houston, Texas and has lived near the coast of the Gulf of Mexico for 25 years. She is the author of Surfer Girls in the New World Order (2010) and is currently working on her latest book:  Feminist Surf Life in the Age of Climate Change.  

In 2014,  Dr. Comer co-founded the Institute for Women Surfers (IWS), an international grassroots political education initiative in the Public Humanities. The institute has conducted trainings in California, Europe, and Australia. For more on IWS see “Surfeminism in an Era of Trump” (2019).

Our episodes typically revolve around stories — lived experiences, often from the water, looking landward. This one is a little different.

We recorded at the close of the Waterwomen Camp Out near a point break in Northern NSW, Australia. The event was hosted by the NGO Surfers for Climate and invited more than 100 women to gather for a weekend of workshops, wellness, and celebration of our shared love of watery play.

Dr. Comer presented work and encouraged dialogue around intergenerational activism, along with local researcher Dr. Rebecca Olive from RMIT University. 

We sat down to discuss the relevance of surf feminism, learning from current social movements, the importance of face to face gathering, and bio-deregulation.

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05 Feb 2025Putting Tech in its Place with Helena Norberg-Hodge + friends00:48:50

What's lost when we hand over skills or experiences to technology ? 

We sat down with localisation pioneer Helena Norberg-Hodge to learn more about the waves of radical economic and social changes she has experienced first hand. 

In 1975, as a student of linguistics amongst the glacial melt of the Himalayas, Helena witnessed the rapid erosion of traditional culture that followed the introduction of Western ideas and economics to the isolated territory of Ladakh, or "Little Tibet." 

 As an economist, linguist and filmmaker, Helena has worked to popularise an economics of happiness for more than 30 years.

Our first episode with Helena aired back in April 2020. Her organisation Local Futures offers practical solutions for changing the systems that aren't serving us best; for coping and deepening connection – what they see as key to unlocking healthier futures for people and planet. 

We wanted to have Helena back on to address a topic that’s been coming up a lot in our house – about technology and whether mechanistic tech is always the best or healthiest solution.  

More specifically – what's lost when tech takes over our skills or experiences ? 

We also hear from two listeners on the topic of tech: Surfers for Climate board member Courtney Miller and Nick Hounsfield, founder of The Wave wavepark in the UK. 

We’d love to hear from your lived experience on this topic, too. 

If you’d like the chance to be featured in a forthcoming episode – please  email over a voice memo to waterpeoplepodcast@gmail.com

 

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15 Sep 2019Zara Noruzi: Surfing in Exile01:01:29

Zara was kidnapped and imprisoned by the Iranian government for her activism. The ocean helped her find a path toward belonging after fleeing her homeland.

Zara Noruzi was born an upper middle class girl with political subversion in her blood. She lived through the devastating war between Iraq and Iran. At university she wrote feminist articles and participated in student protests, begging for answers about why women were being denied basic human rights after the regime change.

Zara detailed her experiences in her memoir My Life As a Traitor.

In Episode 7 of The Waterpeople Podcast, she  picks up where her memoir left off -- with discovering surfing and how it has subsequently shaped her life.

Zara's is a story of youthful idealism, no-apologies activism, and the power of surfing to bring us back to ourselves.

It is a story about the pure and enduring power of the ocean to heal.


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02 Oct 2019Derek Hynd: Conducting Chaos01:12:51

Culture shaper and former world Tour Surfer Derek Hynd has always felt like an outsider looking in. In Episode 8, he talks far field theory, seeing magic in the mundane, how style has been made irrelevant in modern competitive surfing and the impact of vanishing hipsters. He also boils down the gender performance gap to one singular element. It's a meandering conversation with many delightful twists and turns that'll make you want to revisit your surf history.

Several months after recording this episode, Derek's house tragically caught fire and he lost almost all of his earthly possessions. Some friends have set up a GoFundMe to help fund his rebuild. If you feel moved to support, here's the link.
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19 Oct 2019Hayley Talbot: Paddling in the Dark01:05:07

Hayley Talbot is the first person to solo kayak the great Clarence River (Boorimbah) from source to sea, a 400 kilometre voyage. She's a former competitive surfer and lawyer who found her home in fresh water. 

In 2017, Hayley Talbot found herself mired in the monotony of raising two young children. She’d yearned to know more about the source of the Clarence River, where she’d grown up and surfed around the river mouth. She wanted to know where it came from. 

Hayley spent two years preparing, having never kayaked before, but kissed her two young children goodbye for a self-initatied right of passage adventure. Hers is a story about belonging, making space for self amidst parenthood, connecting with indigenous wisdom, and daring to venture outside of our social conditioning. 

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03 Nov 2019Jake Mackenzie: More, more, more00:45:16

"One is too many and a thousand isn’t enough," says Jake Mackenzie, of his adventurous, but addictive tendencies. Jake is an all-around waterman, and an entrepreneur. 

Jake shares a story of the spiritual awakening that led him back to the sea, after descending into "a vampire lifestyle" of addiction, hallucination and off-the-rails experimentation. A single moment sent him packing for a slow-moving journey of detox and healing though Europe and, eventually, to the Mediterranean. He knew the medicine he needed was sunlight and saltwater.

Jake's is a story of surrender, regaining connection, service and always finding a way to have a good laugh.


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20 Nov 2019Madison Stewart: Shark Girl01:21:45

"I work to take back what I believe is mine, and that is a future in an ocean that has sharks.” At 14, Madison Stewart had a transformative experience with sharks on the Great Barrier Reef that set her on a path to marine science and conservation work. She is a dive master, filmmaker, 2017’s Australian Geographic Society Young Conservationist of the Year and author of The Australian Guide to Surfing with Sharks. 

Madison is a young filmmaker and entrepreneur who knows sharks as both gnarly and magical. She's spent the last decade dedicating her time and energy to revealing the global attack on sharks - largely for the shark fin market - but also addressing cultural attitudes that are contributing to the dramatic decline in global shark populations. As apex predators, impacting shark populations means altering the entire marine ecosystem.   

Hers is a story about uncompromising young passion, compassionate approaches to conservation work, and overcoming fear to see reality more clearly.

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08 Dec 2019Liz Clark: Re-inventing Rites of Passage00:54:37

Liz Clark has sailed and surfed 25,000 nautical miles across and around the Pacific. Mostly solo. She is a National Geographic Adventurer of the Year.

But before all of that, Liz started with a simple dream to explore by sea. That seemingly simple dream turned into more than a decade of rich and complex ocean life, and became a transformative rite of passage of her own making.

Liz shares a story from being pushed to her limits during a 1300 mile solo crossing and the salty, rough conditions that opened her eyes to the 'caustic' nature of comfort, and exposed deep spiritual learnings she hadn't really been seeking.

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27 Dec 2019Albe Falzon: Everything Is Surfing01:09:06

Sometimes loss never really leaves us. We can't stop those waves of emotion, longing or pain, but we can learn to ride them compassionately. Albe Falzon is one of surfing's great storytellers. His study of eastern spiritual traditions, and the wholistic commitment to a surfing life, have guided him through the inevitable tumult of human existence; through seasons of unthinkable loss, love, adventure, and solitude.

Albe's celebratory films, including Morning of the Earth and Festivals of the World, convey the deep reverence and wonderment that he walks every single day.

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14 Apr 2020Helena Norberg-Hodge: Our Local Futures01:27:26

Helena Norberg-Hodge has experienced radical economic and cultural change before. In 1975, as a student of linguistics amongst the glacial melt of the Himalayas, Helena witnessed the rapid erosion of traditional culture that followed the introduction of Western ideas and ideals to the isolated territory of Ladakh, or "Little Tibet."

As an economist, linguist and filmmaker, she has been promoting an economics of personal, social and ecological well-being for more than 30 years. Helena is a pioneer in the field of localisation and offers practical solutions for changing the systems that aren't serving us best; for coping and deepening connection – what she sees as the key to unlocking healthier, local futures. 

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19 May 2020Watershed Chats: Introduction00:01:48

Welcome to our new series, Watershed Chats, conversational deep dives with experts and those having a go at building and dreaming new ways into fruition for a healthy and habitable future on Planet Ocean.

We’ll pick up with our usual Waterpeople storytelling on July 7th,  and until then, we’ll be releasing bi-monthly episodes of Watershed Chats, presented by The Waterpeople Podcast in collaboration with Patagonia.  

Watershed moments are traditionally understood as a division or distinction between two phases. They can be turning points that define our shared history. 

We want to know -- where to from here?

We'll hear from ground-breaking researchers, filmmakers, artists, feral foragers and others daring to move us toward the more beautiful world we know is possible. 

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19 May 2020Getting Solution-Centric with Filmmaker DAMON GAMEAU00:41:57

Explore the cultivation of critical thinking, harnessing hope by localising climate change actionables, and the transformative power of the experiential with filmmaker Damon Gameau.

Damon is an actor and filmmaker. He directed That Sugar Film, an exposé on the personal and political impacts of consuming refined sugars, which became the highest grossing Australian documentary of all time. 

More recently, Damon wrote and directed 2040 a feature documentary that explores what the future would look like if we embraced the best solutions already available to us to counter climate change.

Welcome to our new series, Watershed Chats, conversational deep dives with experts and those having a go at building and dreaming new ways into fruition for a healthy and habitable future on Planet Ocean.

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24 May 2020Mobilizing the Coastal Constituency with SEAN DOHERTY00:29:20

Deconstruct strategies from the successful Fight for the Bight campaign with one of the movement's central voices, Sean Doherty, one of surfing's most celebrated storytellers. The campaign was a win not only for Australian marine life, livelihoods and coastlines, but also for the power of community to peacefully resist corporate insanity.

Sean is a journalist and author who has spent more than three decades shaping the way we perceive the happenings of surf culture, identity, and industry, with a humorous, self-deprecating, Aussie larrikin tone.

Sean has helped to empower, educate, and activate a coastal constituency along Australia's - and the world's - coastlines by connecting with mainstream ocean folk and using the "old story" to the movement's advantage.

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16 Jun 2020Protecting People & The Planet with Intersectional Environmentalist LEAH THOMAS00:34:16

What are the links between social justice and environmentalism? Leah Thomas is at the leading edge of Intersectional Environmentalism, a term she coined as a way to advocate for the protection of people and the planet simultaneously.

Leah, a writer and activist, is blooming the efforts of Environmental Justice advocates. After posting a simple, but powerful graphic and pledge on Instagram, Leah’s unifying ideas went viral amidst the rising tide of the Black Lives Matter movement.

By focusing on the lived experiences of marginalised people and communities, who also bear disproportionate impacts from environmental crises, Intersectional Environmentalism connects the dots between personal, political and planetary.

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30 Jun 2020Mitigating Micro-plastics with Marine Biologist ALICE FORREST00:40:40

Freshly back from an expedition to Antarctica, Alice shares her experience of the frozen ocean and talks us through the complex conversation, but simple solutions, found in her new publication, Micro Plastics, Massive Problem.

Alice’s field work has taken her to remote islands throughout the Pacific & Indian Oceans to study marine debris on beaches, and that consumed by birds, fish and humans. 

Alice Forrest is dive master, wildlife guide and marine biologist specializing in marine plastic pollution.
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07 Jul 2020Gerry Lopez: A Sense of Stillness01:09:13

Legend of style, ease and ingenuity, Gerry Lopez, shares stories about growing up in Hawaii, the balance he found in the mountains, tube-riding mysticism, and one of the unsung sheros of surfing.

Gerry pioneered deep tube riding at the Pipeline, acted in Hollywood films, and helped to build the early surf industry with his entrepreneurial curiosity. He is an icon of the art of surfing, a masterful boardbuilder, dedicated yogi, and teacher of the great metaphors of ocean life.

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13 Jul 2020How Water Shapes Us with Blue Mind author Dr. WALLACE 'J' NICHOLS00:43:10

Dr. Wallace 'J' Nichols is a marine biologist and author of Blue Mind, an interdisciplinary reimagining of the story of water and the vast cognitive, social, physical and spiritual benefits of being in, around, and under healthy water systems. His integrative approach to research and activism, informed by decades scientific inquiry, begs the question: how can we create a healthier world if we aren't well in our own minds and bodies?

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20 Jul 2020Starting Over & The Sea: LIVE featuring '93 World Champ Pauline Menczer, Raf Browne, Jonny Dustow & Rosalie Bryant01:35:50

Live from the Waterpeople stage at The 2020 Byron Byron Surf Festival, 1993 World Champion Pauline Menczer, switch-foot wizard Raf Browne, Vanlife Diaries founder and musician Jonny Dustow, and writer Rosalie Bryant share personal tales of new beginnings. They explore how the ocean buoyed them through health crises, bizarre ego smashing, fleeting moments of superhuman strength, and unexpected loss.

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27 Jul 2020The Blue Economy & A Rights Based Approach with Beyond the Surface International's EMI KOCH00:46:39

Emi Koch is a surfer and the 2018 National Geographic Adventurer of the Year. More recently, she was awarded a prestigious Fulbright Fellowship for her work that explores social-ecological wellbeing in artisanal, Tropical-Majority fishing villages amidst a changing climate.

Emi’s non-profit, Beyond the Surface International, hosts a suite of projects that use surfing as tool for social justice, youth empowerment, and sustainable community development around the world. In this exploratory chat, Emi talks about the white saviour complex, the power of imagery, expanding dated ideas of "charity" work for a more systems-based approach, and the subsequent responsibility of pushing someone into a wave.

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04 Aug 2020Nik Zanella: Decoding Dynasties01:05:17

Delve into one of surfing's new, ancient histories with surf explorer and author Nik Zanella's first-hand account of unravelling the ancient story of wave riding in dynastic China.

Nik is the author of Children of the Tide and a former coach to the Chinese National Surf Team.

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11 Aug 2020Everyday Earth Repair with freesurfer HEATH JOSKE00:38:31

Heath Joske is a waterman committed to regenerating his homelands. In one of the driest parts of one of the driest continents on Earth, Heath has committed to rehabilitating his large coastal acreage that was stripped bare by industrial agriculture. Between riding some of Australia’s most revered and underground waves and raising a young family, Heath is employing the principles of permaculture to bring balance back to his local, coastal ecology. 

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18 Aug 2020Dr. Easkey Britton: The Playful Edge01:31:25

In 2010, Easkey Britton was drawn to Iran and the possibility of surf in the Arabian Sea. She became the first woman in known history to surf Iran’s Baluchistan Coast and found not only surf, but a hospitable culture eager to grow a surfing community of its own.

At home in Ireland, Easkey was the first woman to charge the premier big wave peaks of  Aileens and Mullaghmore. She was crowned Irish National Champion five times over. 

Now a marine social scientist, Easkey holds a PhD in Environment and Society. She is co-founder of the NGO Like Water which uses the power of the sea as a creative medium for social change and spear-headed the world’s first global Surf for Social Good Summit. Besides her work in the academic, big wave and NGO realms, Easkey is a dancer, painter, and poet. 

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25 Aug 2020Learning to Listen to the Land with Permaculturist Geoff Lawton00:48:09

Geoff Lawton is a permaculture systems designer who has spent more than thirty years implementing and teaching the holistic mindset and ethical design science of permaculture. He has educated more than 15,000 students and consulted on projects in 52 countries around the world.

If you’re curious to learn more about permaculture design or philosophy, Geoff has generously provided Waterpeople listeners with free access to his Permaculture Greenroom, where you’ll find inspiring, free video content from Geoff himself, one of the leading permaculture designers in the world.

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01 Sep 2020Cliff Kapono: Tomorrow's Ancestors01:25:07

Native Hawaiian biochemist Dr. Cliff Kapono talks us through the embodied fusion of modern scientific inquiry and reverent indigeneity. Cliff is amongst the most versatile surfers on the planet.

He shares some of his most vulnerable moments, brimming with frustration and self-doubt, and humbly reflects on the ways a surfing life has kept him here. In our meandering conversation, Cliff also covers the conflict of biotech, environmental activism, traditional Hawaiian lore & surf crafts, and reveals the micro-interconnections between surfers and other marine mammals.

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08 Sep 2020Reframing Relationship: Respect and Reciprocity with Bundjalung Brothers Josh & Kyle Slabb00:41:11

Josh and Kyle Slabb are Bundjalung men who live, fish, surf and raise their families near the fabled sand bottom point break of Fingal Head on the east coast of Australia –  where their ancestors have thrived for tens of thousands of years.

The Slabbs are a renowned and respected family among coastal communities all over Australia, for their water prowess, cultural integrity and willingness to share indigenous ways of thinking and relating through their cultural education organization Banaam, which works to empower all Australians through cultural intelligence. 

Banaam teaches businesses, organizations and communities how to apply Indigenous principles of communication to create relationships rooted in respect and reciprocal contribution. 

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15 Sep 2020Ashley Lloyd: Shaping Our Future01:07:33

Surfer/Shaper Ashley Lloyd is ambidextrous when it comes to both planer and technical hang tens. Featured in films like Tiffany Campbell's Dear & Yonder, her surfing is both precise and powerful.

Ashley talks us through the technical aspects of experimenting with innovative, plant-based materials in her ECOboard verified shapes, embodying the changes of pregnancy and motherhood, switch-stance as a practice of self expansion, and the way new boards can open us up to new sensations.

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18 Sep 2020The KariOi Project with Kristel Van Houte00:37:27

Kristel Van Houte is a surfer and marine ecologist based in the coastal town of Raglan, on the north island of New Zealand. She started the KariOi Project just over 10 years ago with a vision to restore biodiversity from local mountain to sea.  

The KariOi Project does some of the dirtier work of protecting biodiversity: trapping and removing invasive predators that threaten endemic migrating sea birds.  Their extensive invasive predator control programme enlists the local community to remove animals not native to New Zealand, who prey on vulnerable sea bird eggs and chicks.  In the process, they are creating opportunities for practical conservation, local employment and education.

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29 Sep 2020Dane Gudauskas: Universal Languages01:21:13

Freesurfer Dane Gudauskas is known equally for his sunny demeanour and powerful approach to the world's heaviest lefhanders. Dane is co-founder of Positive Vibe Warriors, a foundation that assists communities with youth water safety programs and ocean education.

In our meandering mid-lockdown conversation, Dane muses on the depression that opened him up to deep compassion, the value of listening, the parenting philosophies that shaped the Gudauskas brothers, saying I Love You for the first time, the joy of surrender in riding his 13'11 glider, what it takes to be a freesurfer, and more.

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05 Oct 2020Doing Death Well with Zenith Virago01:09:59

Zenith Virago is founder of the Natural Death Care Centre, where she guides folks through the process of dying, death and bereavement. 

As Waterpeople, most of us dance the line with risk regularly, and we know how alive we feel in spaces that we can’t control – like the ocean. Choosing to be a part of a wild space can offer us a healthy respect for death – and an active appreciation for life. 

As a deathwalker, Zen challenges us all to consider death as an inherent part of the process of living well. Her work raises important questions about the social and environmental impacts of our approaches to death and dying.

In these uncertain times, more than ever, Zenith empowers us all to consider what it means to die well.

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13 Oct 2020Paige Alms: Unfurling Fate00:54:47

Two Time Big Wave World Champion Paige Alms was born in Canada. At age 7, a life-altering trip completely changed the course for her family and set Paige on the path toward shaping modern big wave surfing.

Paige is a co-founder of the Committee for Equity in Women’s Surfing (CEWS), established in 2016, with her peers in professional big wave surfing: Keala Kennelly, Andrea Moller, and Bianca Valenti. Their vision and persistence in challenging the World Surf League’s history of pay inequity played a key role in demanding the WSL to implement pay parity and bolster women’s representation at big wave events.

Paige is an all-around waterperson, who excels when the ocean is 1 foot or 50 --- whether through wing-dinging on unbroken swell lines, or becoming the first woman to get barrelled at Pe'ahi.


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20 Oct 2020Seaweedy Solutions with marine ecologist Dr. Pia Winberg00:48:01

Dr. Pia Winberg is marine ecologist and entrepreneur. A fascination with the scientific properties of seaweed led her to a decades long career in both researching and implementing sustainable marine food production systems – specifically the human and eco-systemic health impacts of growing, consuming and nurturing our relationship with seaweed. 

Seaweed is recognized as a potentially major ally in drawing down the carbon that fuels climate change – and for its ability to create rich marine habitat and provide substantive nutrition for humankind  

Pia started and runs Australia’s first commercial seaweed farm and is working to share the layered solutions, from personal to global, that seaweed offers.

"This one solution could potentially draw down staggering amounts of carbon, restore marine ecosystems, provide enough seafood (brimming with healthy omega-3 fatty acids) for 10 billion people... cool the waters over coral reefs to help prevent bleaching, plus provide a material to make plastics and clothing, feed cattle, dramatically reduce methane emissions and provide a biofuel for energy….” - Damon Gameau, 2040 book, on the possibilities of seaweed

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26 Oct 2020Tory Strange: A Place to Stay00:59:58

At least once a day for 36 years, Tory Strange has provided a surf report for waterfolk in his hometown of St. Augustine, Fl.  Waking most days to see the sunrise for the dawn patrol report, Tory has developed an especially intimate understanding of his local beach.

Tory is also an entrepreneur and owner of one of the world's most community-centric surf shops, The Surf Station. He has shaped US East Coast surf culture by nurturing the careers of talented surfers, filmmakers and writers, and more broadly, by creating a place where many learn what it means to be part of a community of waterpeople.

Tory's legacy reminds us of the power of sinking our roots in deep, and committing to our own community.

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03 Nov 2020Cetacean Culture with Dr. Liz Hawkins01:14:02

Dr. Liz Hawkins is a marine ecologist who has spent more than 20 years researching cetaceans. Liz is the founder and CEO of Dolphin Research Australia, where she heads up research and education about the social systems, communication, population dynamics, and health of dolphins in Northern New South Wales and South East Queensland.


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10 Nov 2020Jaimal Yogis: Inner Ocean01:12:15

How do we navigate our own inner ocean -- the fear and anxiety and unhelpful fixations ? Student of Zen Buddhism, and surfer, Jaimal Yogis shares some of his learnings from a life committed to riding waves and cultivating peace through varying practices of meditation and mindfulness.

Jaimal has become one of the leading literary voices in fleshing out the metaphorical depth, richness and spirituality of a surfing life. His books include Saltwater Buddha, All Our Waves are Water, The Fear Project, and most recently, a children’s book Mop Rides the Waves of Life:  A Story of Mindfulness and Surfing .


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24 Nov 2020Thomas Campbell: Chasing Sensation01:23:55

Artists take us to other worlds; they reflect or refract the beauty in ours, or not. They transport us and stretch us and dream for those of us who have forgotten. We are the artful animal -- and perhaps we need art more now than ever.

For more than two decades, Thomas Campbell has  shown us a quirkier and more open minded culture of surfing via sculpture, painting, photography and film. In watery circles, he's best known for his trio of analog surf films, including the seedling sprout, and the present, all of which instructively inspired surf culture to broaden its design horizons -- and take itself a little less seriously.

We queried  Thomas about what he finds compelling in certain ways of wave riding, the blossoming inclusivity of surf culture, front footed vs. back footed approaches and the surf film he's currently working on.
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08 Dec 2020Mary Setterholm: So Then I Prayed02:06:37

One year after founding the Women's International Surfing Association in 1975, Mary Setterholm bought a bus ticket and left surfing behind -- her community and the culture she was helping to shape.

Mary is a  graduate of Harvard Divinity School has gone on teach hundreds of women and at risk youth the art of riding waves. She shares the painful story of why she left and how she found her way back to the ocean.

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21 Jun 2021Cyrus Sutton: Perceiving Pattern01:44:31

How do we apply pattern literacy learned from ocean life to the land? What have we learned from our historically colonial approach to surf culture? How do we move ourselves and our culture forward in regenerative ways that favour meaningful relationship within our own community and the living world? 

Homesteading surfer, filmmaker and entrepreneur Cyrus Sutton invites us to engage with these questions, and more, in our omnivorous conversation about leaving pro surfing and Southern California, cultivating mentorships, permaculture, intergenerational relationship, questioning the assumptions of the environmental movement and the value of B Corps.

Cyrus Sutton is best known  for his skill across diverse wave crafts and his creative reflections of surf culture via movies like Riding Waves, Under the Sun and Stoked and Broke. Cyrus is founder of Kordouroy.tv  and Manda Organic Skincare

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21 Jun 2021Welcome to Season Three00:46:48

Listen with Lauren L. Hill, Dave Rastovich and Waterpeople's sound engineer/ in-house musician Shannon Sol Carroll as they sit down to recalibrate for another 21 episodes of conversation with some of the world's most adept waterpeople -- and those stretching the culture in imperative ways.

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28 Jun 2021Susan Casey: Fathoming01:30:01

What do you do with sparks of curiosity? Susan Casey follows many of them into full immersion: jet skiing down the face of a Pe'ahi set wave with Laird Hamilton, into the lightless innerspace of the deep marine biosphere via submersible, and straight to the ruins of forgotten ancient cultures to ascertain truth and significance for herself --- while taking readers along for the ride.

Susan Casey, a self-proclaimed 'stealth activist,' is the author of three New York Times bestselling books including The Wave: In Pursuit of the Rogues, Freaks, and Giants of the Ocean, The Devil’s Teeth: A True Story of Obsession and Survival Among America’s Great White Sharks,  and Voices in the Ocean: A Journey Into the Wild and Haunting World of Dolphins.

Susan was the creative director for Outside Magazine, and served as editor in chief for both Sports Illustrated Women and O, The Oprah Magazine, as well as being editor at large across all of Time Inc.’s magazine titles.

Susan is one of our culture's most compelling advocates for marvelling with and protecting our oceans.

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05 Jul 2021Isaiah Helekunihi Walker: Claiming Kuleana01:30:41

How far are you willing to go to protect the place where you live, love and belong? Native Hawaiians have had to face this question regularly over the last century or so, as colonialism threatened, and continues to threaten, indigenous ways of being, playing and thriving in their islands.

Professor/Surfer Isaiah Helekunihi Walker contextualises Hawaiian localism within the historical framework of waves of colonialism --  from the overthrow of the Hawaiian Kingdom to the annual onslaught of the surfing industry on the fabled North Shore.

Isaiah is the author of "Waves of Resistance: Surfing and History in Twentieth-Century Hawai'i." His research offers an alternative to the dominant, California-centric narrative of surfing, by offering a native history from the birthing grounds of surf culture.

We also delve into the particular shaping of Duke Kahanamoku's public persona and legacy, question who has driven surf storytelling, reveal the gender bias in ancient Hawaiian moʻolelo (toward female surfers), and speak to the ancient sustainable food science of Ahupua'a, which allowed for surfing to exist as we know it.

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* "Kuleana  is a uniquely Hawaiian value and practice which is loosely translated to mean 'responsibility.' The word kuleana refers to a reciprocal relationship between the person who is responsible, and the thing which they are responsible for.

For example, Hawaiians have a kuleana to our land: to care for it and to respect it, and in return, our land has the kuleana to feed, shelter, and clothe us, through this relationship we maintain balance within society and with our natural environment."


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14 Jul 2021Lynne Boyer: All These Secrets01:26:27

Our cultural heros, and especially our sheros, seem to always glimmer with a steely façade of smiling heteronormative perfection. The soft underbelly of this manufactured reality is often left unspoken.

Parallel to her time at the top, two time World Champion Lynne Boyer ( '78 and '79 ), struggled with addiction and stifling her sexual orientation. Still, she managed to define radical surfing amongst her cohort, and kept four time World Champ Margo Oberg on her toes with ongoing competitive rivalry.

Now a professional artist, Lynne shares about the fledgling years of professional surfing, coming out, breaking down, the comparison of sex and tuberiding and  the redeeming power of love.

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27 Jul 2021Valerie Taylor: Sixty Years with Sharks01:05:24

Do you have a memory about the movie JAWS? Australian icon Valerie Taylor was commissioned by Steven Spielberg, along with her partner Ron Taylor, to shoot the live action scenes for his unforgettable classic -- a film that ultimately drummed up irrational fears about sharks. Valerie spent much of the rest of her career trying to dispel those myths.

Valerie's life’s work has become the basis for much of what we know about sharks today. She is best known for featuring on the cover of National Geographic Magazine being bitten by a blue shark, and for her work in establishing marine protected areas.

Her  life is chronicled in the new documentary "Playing with Sharks," which traces Valerie's career trajectory from champion spearfisher to passionate shark protector. Here, she talks us through a few of the many adventures in her long and very adventurous watery life, and what it has meant to document the Anthropocene.

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