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08 Sep 2024Pilot - Introduction00:32:30

Welcome to Underground Strategy. In our debut episode, Max Lauker (ex-Swedish Special Operations) and Tony Garcia (ex-SANDF veteran) kick things off with no-frills talk about NATO’s latest moves, the Arctic Ranger Regiment, and personal stories from our military careers.

This isn’t your typical podcast—it’s raw, real, and unapologetic. We’re setting the tone for what’s coming every Sunday.

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Don´t miss the book about Max journey, Number 788 - https://amzn.to/3BQGmm7


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08 Sep 2024War and Money - The Costs No One Talks About00:26:45

Max Lauker and Tony Garcia dive into one of the hottest topics—war and money. They talk about the financial side of conflict, from military spending to the economic impact on everyday life. Expect candid opinions and no-nonsense discussion about who profits, who pays, and the ripple effects that come with it.

No deep dives, just real talk and raw opinions.

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Check out Max Lauker´s book, Number 788 - https://amzn.to/3BQGmm7


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14 Sep 2024Military Legends00:23:33

This week on Underground Strategy, we’re kicking back and talking military legends. From frozen battlefields in Finland to the revolutionary jungles of Latin America, Max and Tony break down the names that stick—and the stories that made them legendary.

Who made the cut?

-Harry Järv: Winter War veteran and writer who fought in Finland’s toughest battles.

-Erik Bonde: The Swedish officer whose legacy still echoes from the Congo.

-Che Guevara: Revolutionary icon—beyond the T-shirts.

-Koos De la Rey: Boer War general, brilliant tactician, and a man of his time.

Will there be some singing? Maybe. Will you learn something? Absolutely.

No fluff. Just real talk about the people who shaped history.

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Check out Max book, Number 788 - https://amzn.to/3BQGmm7


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22 Sep 2024Weaponry Deep Dive with Vapenkunskap (Weapons Knowledge)00:25:34

Episode 4: Weaponry Deep Dive with Vapenkunskap (Weapons Knowledge)

In this episode, we go full nerd with Vapenkunskap (Weapons Knowledge), diving deep into the details of weaponry. From the legendary Kalashnikov to cutting-edge developments, this conversation takes us across the globe as we explore the world of firearms and tactics.

Check out Vapenkunskap’s brilliant insights on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/vapenkunskap/

We also touch on some key topics, including:


And last but not least, don’t be like Max and Tony—read the manual before all else fails. As recommended by Vapenkunskap, check out the Swedish Mauser manual here: http://pdf.textfiles.com/manuals/FIREARMS/swede_m38-m41b-m96.pdf

For more on Underground Strategy, visit: https://undergroundstrategy.com

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29 Sep 2024The Home Front in Ukraine with Kostiantyn Koshelenko00:20:26

Episode 5: The Home Front in Ukraine with Kostiantyn Koshelenko

In this episode of Underground Strategy, we are honored to be joined by Kostiantyn Koshelenko, Ukraine’s Deputy Minister of Social Policy and Digital Transformation. Kostia shares valuable insights into his role on the Home Front, offering a unique perspective on how Ukraine is navigating the challenges of war from both a governmental and digital standpoint.

Kostia shares his thoughts on leadership, how digital transformation is shaping Ukraine’s efforts during the war, and the ways both the government and private sectors are tackling the immense challenges they’re facing together.

You can explore more about Kostia’s experiences and strategies in his book:

Management in Times of War: Leadership Examples from Ukraine’s Government and Private Sector –

Available on Amazon - https://amzn.to/41SD6kQ

Connect with Kostiantyn Koshelenko:

Ministry of Social Policy of Ukraine | LinkedIn:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/kostiantyn-koshelenko

Kostiantyn Koshelenko on X:

https://twitter.com/k_koshelenko

Kostiantyn Koshelenko on Instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/k_koshelenko

Ukrainian Resources:

Digital Ukraine:

https://ukraine.ua

Good Deeds - About Us:

https://good-deeds.ua


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05 Oct 2024Extra Episode: The Book is Finally Here!00:13:43

Extra Episode: The Book is Finally Here!

It’s not just any episode—this is a special edition of the Underground Strategy podcast, and it’s all about our new book! We know, we know, you’ve heard us talk about it before, but now you can actually get your hands on it. And what better way to celebrate than with a quick chat about it!

Oh, and if you're looking for a good laugh and a good read, you can grab the book on Amazon. We've got links below:

Grab your copy here:

Amazon: https://amzn.to/3BQGmm7

We promise it’s worth it—just for the stories we couldn't fit into the podcast!

And for our dedicated listeners, since this is an extra episode, you’ll still get your regular dose of Underground Strategy every Sunday. This one's just a bonus!


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06 Oct 2024Winter Warfare—Survival, Strategy, and Snow00:26:48

Cold. Brutal. Unforgiving. Winter changes everything in war.

From historical battles to personal experiences, we break down what makes winter warfare so uniquely challenging. How do freezing conditions impact soldiers, strategy, and equipment? What have armies throughout history done to survive and fight in extreme cold?

And most importantly—will Max finally get the name of NATO’s new Secretary General right this time?

Whether you’re prepping for a winter deployment (or just a cold day), this episode has something for everyone. Grab your hot chocolate and settle in!

Good reading on winter warfare:

The White Sniper: Simo Häyhä - https://amzn.to/4buzkkx

Mountain Warfare and Cold Weather Operations - https://amzn.to/3EO3VNn

More from Underground Strategy:

Discover Number 788 - https://amzn.to/3BQGmm7

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13 Oct 2024Private Military Companies00:27:20

In this episode of Underground Strategy, Max Lauker and Tony Garcia take a closer look at Private Military Companies (PMCs)—the organizations providing military services ranging from logistical support to armed security. As modern warfare evolves, PMCs have become a powerful and controversial force in global conflicts.

Max and Tony explore the advantages, challenges, and ethical dilemmas surrounding PMCs, discussing their impact on traditional military forces, their role in international conflicts, and why governments and corporations rely on them. While not diving too deep into specific firms, this episode provides a broad overview of how these companies operate and their growing significance in modern warfare.

If you’ve ever been curious about the shadowy world of PMCs, this episode offers a compelling introduction to their influence on global security.

Recommended reading

Executive Outcomes: Against All Odds by Eeben Barlow - https://amzn.to/4hRT4kr

Composite Warfare: The Conduct of Successful Ground Force Operations in Africa by Eeben Barlow - https://amzn.to/4ijPPC9

We Were Blackwater by Barrie Rice - https://amzn.to/3XhHFlm

More from Underground Strategy

Discover Number 788 - https://amzn.to/3BQGmm7

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20 Oct 2024Military Logistics00:29:40

Episode 9: Military Logistics – The Backbone of Warfare

In this episode of Underground Strategy, Max Lauker and Tony Garcia take a deep dive into one of the most critical, yet often overlooked, aspects of military success: logistics. As the saying goes, "Amateurs talk tactics, but professionals talk logistics." Throughout history, the ability to keep armies supplied has been the difference between victory and defeat.

Max and Tony explore the importance of logistics in warfare, drawing on historical examples from Napoleon's disastrous Russian campaign to the logistical challenges that crippled the German forces in North Africa during World War II. They discuss how even the most brilliant strategies can falter without a well-organized supply chain, and how logistics continues to play a pivotal role in modern military operations.

Join Max and Tony, in the rear with the gear, as they highlight the unsung hero of military success and give listeners a fresh perspective on the true importance of logistics in warfare.

Take a look at Max Lauker´s biography Number 788 - https://amzn.to/3BQGmm7


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27 Oct 2024War and Peace with Peter de Clercq00:40:28

Episode 10: War and Peace with Peter de Clercq

In this episode of Underground Strategy, we had the honor of hosting Peter de Clercq, a Dutch diplomat who has spent over 35 years working at the highest levels of the United Nations, including as Deputy Special Representative of the Secretary-General for the United Nations Assistance Mission in Somalia (UNSOM). His extensive experience includes working in conflict-affected countries such as Somalia, Sudan, and Haiti, where he has dedicated his career to improving conditions for the most vulnerable populations.

Although Peter is formally retired from his UN roles, he remains deeply involved in promoting inclusion, rights, and opportunities for those impacted by war. In this episode, Peter shares his insights into leadership, peacebuilding, and the challenges the UN faces in war-torn regions.

We discuss how diplomacy plays a crucial role in creating the conditions for peace during violent conflict and rebuilding societies afterward. It was a great conversation, and we’re looking forward to welcoming Peter back for a follow-up episode.


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31 Oct 2024Limited Series Premiere: Behind the Book – The Making of Number 788 EP 100:28:00

We’re thrilled to introduce a new limited series on Underground Strategy—an in-depth exploration into the making and the mind behind Number 788, authored by Max Lauker and co-authored by Tony Garcia. Hosted and produced by South African media figure Desmond Latham, this series offers listeners an inside look at the origins, experiences, and challenges that shaped this compelling story of courage and covert operations.

Number 788 details Max Lauker’s journey from reluctant soldier to highly skilled ranger, excelling in reconnaissance, intelligence, and covert operations. The book recounts his unique experiences during a pivotal time in history, from post-Cold War training through the War on Terror. Max shares not only his professional journey but the personal struggles and moral complexities that come with a life lived in the shadows.

In this premiere episode, Desmond Latham—a well-known broadcaster and host of the top-ranked History of South Africa podcast—delves into the foundations of Number 788. As Desmond leads the conversation, Max reveals how his experiences in the Swedish Armed Forces, primarily with Special Purpose Units under the Norrland Dragoon Regiment, shaped the book’s powerful narrative. With deployments across Kosovo, Iraq, Afghanistan, Africa, and the former Eastern Bloc, Max recounts a life dedicated to intelligence and covert operations. Desmond’s skillful interviewing brings to light the stories, risks, and human elements behind Max’s career, creating a vivid picture of the complex world of covert warfare.

Desmond Latham, who has achieved over 500,000 listens on The History of South Africa podcast, brings his well-honed historical insights and broadcasting expertise to Underground Strategy. We’re delighted to work with such a respected voice in the industry, and this series marks an exciting collaboration that digs deep into the reality of modern military life.

This limited series is designed to bring Number 788 to a wider audience, uncovering the lessons, revelations, and experiences that define the book. Join us as we explore the journey of a soldier who became a silent mediator between light and shadow, forever changed by his place in the complex history of Western and Nordic special operations.

Links:

Desmond Latham’s Blog: https://desmondlatham.blog/

History of South Africa Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/2uDa0tQjGe3GpFKDGjMMAm?si=2d2812af232742da

Number 788 on Amazon: https://amzn.to/3BQGmm7


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03 Nov 2024Bridging Military Tactics with Cybersecurity in FinTech00:30:11

In this episode of Underground Strategy, we welcome Hex, a former operations officer in the South African Navy with 18 years of specialized experience in electronic warfare, now known as electromagnetic warfare. With a career rooted in cyber and electronic security strategies, Hex has a unique skill set that merges military precision with cutting-edge cybersecurity techniques.

After completing his MBA, Hex made the transition from military operations to the FinTech world, where he currently serves as the Security and Fraud Manager at Kazang. His work focuses on securing micro-payments for South Africa’s informal sectors, overseeing everything from threat detection and anomaly detection to robust cyber protection protocols. Hex's goal is to bridge the gap between traditional financial services and underserved communities, bringing security to vulnerable transactions.

Join us as we dive into Hex’s fascinating journey, from military tactics to modern-day cybersecurity, and how his expertise is being applied to safeguard financial services in a rapidly changing digital world.

Tune in for an insightful discussion that bridges the worlds of military operations and modern FinTech cybersecurity!


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07 Nov 2024Limited Series Behind the Book: Number 788 – From Reluctant Soldier to Covert Operator, EP 200:21:45

Welcome back to the second episode of our limited series on the making of Number 788, hosted and produced by South African media figure Desmond Latham. This in-depth series explores the experiences that led Max Lauker, co-authored with Tony Garcia, to write Number 788: My Experiences in Swedish Special Operations. This episode dives into Max’s journey from early training in the Swedish Armed Forces to unexpected assignments, shedding light on the rigorous world of special operations and the mental challenges it demands.

Starting with why he was inspired to finally put his experiences to paper, Max recounts his first exposure to military life and the initial stages of training with Swedish Special Purpose Units. In conversation with Des, he shares insights into the mental resilience and adaptability required to transition from basic training to an advanced special operations unit. Max recalls the reality of special operations training, breaking down misconceptions and explaining how long hours, grit, and relentless training formed the backbone of his career.

This episode also delves into unique training experiences abroad with British and French forces, where Max was exposed to live operations in high-risk environments across Europe. Desmond Latham’s thoughtful questions highlight the high stakes and intensity of these early operations, revealing the human element behind the tactical roles Max played.

In this candid conversation, Des guides listeners through Max’s reflections on the shift from training to real-world missions, touching on the stoic mentality required to thrive in high-stakes situations and the adjustments made when theory meets reality.

The discussion sets the stage for the next episode, where Max will delve into his work hunting down terrorist networks across Europe.

Desmond Latham, celebrated for his History of South Africa podcast, brings his keen insights and extensive experience to Underground Strategy. This collaboration offers a unique perspective on the experiences that shaped Number 788, making for an engaging, immersive series.

Links:

Desmond Latham’s Blog: https://desmondlatham.blog/

History of South Africa Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/2uDa0tQjGe3GpFKDGjMMAm?si=2d2812af232742da

Number 788 on Amazon: https://amzn.to/3BQGmm7


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10 Nov 2024Thoughts on Kit and What Really Matters00:24:26

Max and Tony are back, tackling a classic debate: are we all carrying too much kit? In this episode, they dig into the question of what’s truly essential versus what might just be extra baggage. From old-school rain gear to today’s “must-have” gadgets, they share insights on how to find the right balance without diving into a laundry list of gear. The conversation might make you rethink that overstuffed bag!

They also catch us up on the latest from Underground Strategy. Recent War Diaries features have brought fresh voices to the fold, with former diplomat Peter de Clercq sharing insights on global conflict zones and cybersecurity expert Hex diving into the digital battlespace. If you haven’t read these new narratives yet, now’s the time to catch up in the War Diaries section.

Beyond that, there’s plenty in the works: Tony is collaborating with retired Brigadier General Sereko on memoirs that cover over 40 years of service, while Max is deep into his next book, including a compelling project with South African veteran Bob Newland on his time with the London recruits.

Stay tuned for some exciting podcast episodes as we head into the holidays. And, if you have suggestions for themes or guests, reach out—your input could inspire an upcoming episode!

And don’t miss the Sunday SitRep! This quick-read, biweekly newsletter keeps you updated on recent military developments. Subscribe on our website to get the latest delivered straight to your inbox.

Until next week, keep it light on the kit and ready for action!

Links:

War Diaries - https://undergroundstrategy.com/war-diaries/

Combat Diaries - https://undergroundstrategy.com/combat-diaries/

Sunday Sitrep - https://undergroundstrategy.com/sunday-sitrep/

Number 788 - https://amzn.to/3BQGmm7


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14 Nov 2024Limited Series Behind the Book: Number 788 - Unsanctioned Missions, EP 300:21:28

Welcome to Episode 3 of our limited series on Number 788, hosted and produced by South African media figure Desmond Latham. Known for his History of South Africa podcast, Desmond brings his deep experience and sharp perspective to this series, guiding listeners through the pivotal events that shaped Max Lauker’s journey into Swedish special operations.

In this episode, Desmond and Max dive into the transition from intense training to high-stakes operations, revealing some of the unorthodox, unsanctioned missions that came Max’s way. Max recounts his time in the UK for close-protection training, where he found himself unexpectedly assigned as security detail for a Russian oligarch—complete with food-tasting duties to safeguard against potential poisoning. It’s a unique look at the blend of humor and tension that marked the early years of his career.

Moving on to Latin America, Max describes his initial assignments in Panama, where he was tasked with preparing for future operations and forging local and international connections. Desmond’s insightful questions help unravel the complexities of conducting off-the-books missions abroad, from extractions in Venezuela to joint operations with Colombian forces. These experiences gave Max a foundation in adaptable, real-world tactics, shaping the way he approached later sanctioned missions.

The episode wraps up with a discussion of the political dynamics behind Sweden’s special operations. Desmond and Max discuss the significance of Sweden’s proactive role during the Balkans deployment, a pivotal assignment that strengthened Sweden’s credibility within NATO-aligned intelligence circles and set the stage for a strategic shift in their operations.

In the next episode, Max will delve deeper into his boots-on-the-ground experiences in the Balkans, leading into deployments in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Links:

Desmond Latham’s Blog: https://desmondlatham.blog/

History of South Africa Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/2uDa0tQjGe3GpFKDGjMMAm?si=2d2812af232742da

Number 788 on Amazon: https://amzn.to/3BQGmm7


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17 Nov 2024The Lives and Narratives of POWs with Karen Horn00:22:34

In this edition of Underground Strategy, Max Lauker and Tony Garcia welcome historian Karen Horn, who brings her extensive research on prisoners of war (POWs) to the podcast. Karen shares insights from her books, In Enemy Hands and Prisoners of Jan Smuts, exploring the lives and experiences of POWs from WWII. Through her detailed research and personal interviews, Karen uncovers stories that reveal both the resilience and humanity of those who endured captivity.

During this engaging conversation, Karen discusses her unique approach to historical writing, focusing on the stories of individuals to convey the larger experience of POWs. She shares some memorable anecdotes from her interviews, reflecting on the humor, resilience, and challenges that POWs expressed during her research. From Italian POWs in South Africa to South Africans captured by the Germans, Karen’s work offers a rich look at the human element of wartime.

As POWs remain a constant through centuries of conflict, Karen’s stories resonate in today’s context, reminding us of the enduring complexities of war. We look forward to having her back.

Karen's books are available in South Africa in all good book stores, and abroad at:

Prisoners of Jan Smuts: https://amzn.to/4fFy8Lx

In Enemy Hands: In Enemy Hands: https://amzn.to/41UUHbW


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24 Nov 2024Mexican Cartels—The Evolution of Small Armies with Agent Condorito00:22:12

In this week’s episode of Underground Strategy, Max and Tony sit down with Alex, also known as Agent Condorito, to explore the militarization of Mexican cartels and their evolving tactics. Alex, an open-source intelligence enthusiast, has been closely monitoring cartels through digital channels, uncovering insights that often go underreported.

Alex discusses the rapid transformation of cartels like the Sinaloa and Jalisco New Generation Cartels, who have incorporated conventional warfare tactics, specialized units, and heavy weaponry, operating like small armies. The conversation delves into how cartels have leveraged technology—such as drones, anti-drone systems, and social media recruitment—to expand their reach and establish dominance in areas they control.

The discussion also highlights the ongoing turf wars, alliances, and internal conflicts within major cartels, as well as the Mexican government’s response and the role of foreign agencies like the DEA. Alex’s stories shed light on the social impact of these cartels, from the widespread violence that affects local communities to the complex web of loyalty and fear that sustains these organizations.

Find more insights from Alex on his Instagram page: https://instagram.com/agentcondorito

Links to Topics Discussed:

DEA - https://english.elpais.com/international/2024-05-10/the-deas-crusade-against-the-sinaloa-and-jalisco-cartels-the-most-dangerous-and-deadly-drug-crisis-the-us-has-ever-faced.html

Los Zetas - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Zetas

Check out Max biography Number 788 here - https://amzn.to/3BQGmm7


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01 Dec 2024WWII Espionage in South Africa with Evert Kleynhans00:25:00

In this episode of the Underground Strategy podcast, we’re joined by military historian and professor Evert Kleynhans from Stellenbosch University. Known for his research on South African military history, Evert walks us through the fascinating and often-overlooked story of German espionage networks in South Africa during WWII. He explains the role of the Ossewabrandwag and shares insights into Smuts’ complex balancing act of politics, security, and wartime priorities.

Evert also gives us a look at his upcoming work on South African POWs, particularly those who escaped and evaded capture during WWII, providing a unique lens on military resilience and survival. We conclude with Evert's take on South Africa’s most impactful military commanders, whose strategies and decisions have left a lasting mark on both regional and world history.

For further reading on Evert Kleynhans and South African military history, check out his publications below:

Hitler’s South African Spies - https://amzn.to/49TuXi5

Naval War in South African Waters - https://amzn.eu/d/h8IM3Gu

Recommended reads on South African WWII history:

OB: Traitors or Patriots? by George Cloete Visser - https://amzn.to/4091UDL

Robey Leibbrandt: 'n Lewe van Fanatisme by Albert Blake - https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/49447236-robey-leibbrandt

A Military History of Modern South Africa by Ian van der Waag - https://amzn.to/4fThYyl

And a look at Evert’s most influential South African commanders:

Dan Pienaar - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Pienaar

Roland de Vries - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roland_de_Vries

Evered Poole - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evered_Poole


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05 Dec 2024UGS Special Edition: General Louis Botha – Rise to Power Part 100:23:07

In this UGS Special Edition, we continue our military legends series with a focus on General Louis Botha, a towering figure in South African military history and often likened to America’s George Washington.

In this episode, Max interviews Tony, who shares insights from his co-authored book, Botha, Smuts and the First World War. They explore Botha’s early life, his rise as a commander during the Second Anglo-Boer War, and his strategic genius in defending the Tugela line against British forces. This discussion brings to light Botha’s unique tactical eye, his ability to build loyalty among his troops, and the early guerilla tactics that defined his military approach.

Let us know if there are other military legends you’d like us to cover in upcoming episodes!

For more on the topic, Tony's book Botha, Smuts and the First World War (available in South African bookstores) provides an in-depth look.

The UK edition, Botha, Smuts and the Great War, is available on Amazon. https://amzn.to/3C05lDr


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21 Nov 2024Limited Series Behind the Book: Number 788 - The Balkan Transition, EP 400:29:05

Welcome to Episode 4 of our limited series on Number 788, hosted and produced by South African media figure Desmond Latham. Desmond, known for his History of South Africa podcast, brings his expertise and narrative skill to this series, guiding listeners through the defining missions and experiences of Max Lauker’s career in Swedish special operations.

In this episode, Desmond and Max dive into Max's deployment in the Balkans—a transformative chapter in his career. Max reflects on the complex shift from his early cowboy days in Colombia to the high-stakes reality of the Balkans. He recounts the mission dynamics in Kosovo, where he found himself in covert cross-border operations, navigating alliances with Italian and German forces, and conducting intelligence-gathering missions with high-risk stakes.

The conversation also explores the moral and tactical complexities of unsanctioned raids, the psychological challenges of long-term surveillance, and the unexpected discovery of Soviet-era weaponry on the Serbian border. Desmond’s probing questions reveal the formative impact of these experiences, shaping Max’s understanding of real-world intelligence work and operational patience.

Join us as we uncover the grit, decisions, and high-stakes realities that defined Max's Balkan deployment and set the stage for his subsequent missions.

In the next episode, Max will delve further into the evolution of his unit and the impact these early experiences had on his approach to special operations and intelligence.

Links:

Desmond Latham’s Blog: https://desmondlatham.blog/

History of South Africa Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/2uDa0tQjGe3GpFKDGjMMAm?si=2d2812af232742da

Number 788 on Amazon: https://amzn.to/3BQGmm7


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08 Dec 2024Military Requirements and Selections - Thoughts and Banter00:37:40

In this week’s episode of Underground Strategy, Max and Tony tackle the evolving dynamics of military recruitment and selection processes, providing a unique perspective shaped by their personal experiences and years of observation. As the holiday season approaches, the duo reflects on the spirit of Christmas creeping into their routines—lights, advent traditions, and thoughts of thoughtful gifts (books, anyone?) make their way into the conversation, adding a lighter touch before diving into the week’s topic.

As global conflicts intensify and armies worldwide face mounting pressure to scale up recruitment, the conversation delves into how modern militaries are adapting their strategies to balance the demand for manpower with the need to maintain operational excellence.

Max reflects on his time in Swedish special operations, sharing insights on the psychological and physical demands of special forces selections, where mental resilience often outweighs brute physical strength. Tony adds his perspective, discussing how military psychological evaluations can sometimes reveal more about a recruit’s potential than their ability to run a perfect 10K or perform dozens of pull-ups. They highlight how soft skills and technical expertise—like cyber warfare capabilities and drone piloting—are increasingly prioritized alongside traditional physical requirements.

The discussion naturally ties into the broader context of modern warfare, with Ukraine serving as a poignant example of how military requirements shift as the need for personnel grows urgent. Max and Tony explore the complex dynamics at play, where outdated perceptions of “fighting fit” clash with the reality that adaptability and specialized skills are just as critical on today’s battlefields.

Interwoven with personal anecdotes, including Max’s experiences with Ranger school and Tony’s insights from South African military selection, the episode paints a vivid picture of the challenges and rewards of navigating military recruitment in an era defined by rapid technological advancement and global instability.

This is a must-listen for anyone curious about the behind-the-scenes realities of building effective and diverse military teams, where the right mindset and technical know-how are as important as physical readiness.

 

Don't miss out on the part where Max talks about the Spanish legionnaire ceremonial uniform... to be honest Tony digs it and we can see why.

Links:

Number 788 on Amazon - https://amzn.to/3BQGmm7

Botha, Smuts and the Great War https://amzn.to/3C05lDr


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28 Nov 2024Limited Series Behind the Book: Number 788 - The End of the Beginning00:22:38

In this fifth and final episode of the Number 788 podcast series, host Des Latham wraps up the journey with Max Lauker, reflecting on the incredible experiences that shaped his life in special operations and intelligence. From the Swedish Arctic Ranger Regiment to covert missions across the globe, Max shares how his career evolved from military operations to a focus on intelligence and beyond.

Returning from pivotal deployments in the Balkans, Max recalls his unit’s role in identifying key violations and proving their worth as an experimental special purpose unit. This success became the foundation for further deployments and Sweden’s growing participation in international operations, particularly during its transition toward NATO collaboration.

Max also shares insights into the process of writing Number 788: My Experiences in Swedish Special Operations Preparing for NATO and the War on Terror, co-authored with Tony Garcia. With vivid recollections and years of operational experience, the book provides a unique perspective on the challenges and triumphs of special operations. Max touches on how the collaboration with Tony shaped the book and how their shared passion has now expanded into Underground Strategy, a platform for military narratives, guest articles, and podcasts.

To join Max journey in Number 788, visit Amazon and grab your copy today - https://amzn.to/3BQGmm7

For updates on Underground Strategy, visit https://undergroundstrategy.com

or connect with Max Lauker on Instagram at https://instagram.com/maxlauker

To follow Des Latham and explore his work, including his blog and podcasts, visit https://desmondlatham.blog

or find his podcast, History of South Africa, wherever you listen to podcasts.

Thank you to Des Latham for guiding this fascinating journey through the limited series and bringing these stories to life.


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22 Dec 2024Military Culture: Ceremonies and the Role of War00:27:55

In this episode, recorded just days before Christmas, Max Lauker and Tony Garcia bring a relaxed yet reflective tone to the Underground Strategy podcast. From holiday traditions to the deep connections between military service, ceremonial duties, and global conflict, this conversation covers a lot of ground.

The episode begins with Max and Tony sharing Christmas traditions—from Swedish celebrations on the 24th to Scottish winter mornings with blazers and cookies for Santa. But the discussion soon transitions into a thoughtful exploration of ceremonial guard duties, their significance, and the cultural differences in how military traditions are honored.

Drawing from personal experiences, Max recalls guarding Stockholm’s Royal Castle during a snowy Christmas and reflects on how ceremonial roles contribute to both public engagement and unit cohesion. The conversation expands to military traditions worldwide, from Swiss Guards to riot drills and even the grandiose parades of more autocratic states.

Max and Tony also explore how societies view and respect their armed forces, particularly during times of war and peace. Max shares his nuanced perspective on the balance between honoring military service and ensuring the ultimate objective remains peace—a timely reminder as the holidays approach.

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15 Dec 2024Andrew Balaam - Selous Scout and Bush War Operator01:14:33

This week on the Underground Strategy Podcast, Max and Tony sit down with Andrew Balaam, a former Selous Scout and veteran of the Rhodesian Bush War.

From Andrew’s early life in Southern Rhodesia to his experiences in the legendary Selous Scouts, this episode goes straight into the realities of pseudo-operations, inter-unit rivalries, and life on the frontlines of a conflict that shaped Southern Africa’s history.

Andy shares unique insights into the tactical and personal challenges of operating behind enemy lines, as well as his thoughts on leadership, resilience, and the nuances of warfare.

Some highlights from the episode:

-Life as a Selous Scout: What made this unit unique, and how pseudo-operations reshaped the battlefield.

-Operation Detachment: The first vehicle-based cross-border raid into Mozambique and its impact on Rhodesian strategy.

-Leadership and Solo Operations: The challenges of operating independently in hostile environments, including Andrew’s unforgettable 57-day mission.

-Historical Reflections: Andrew's candid thoughts on the political and personal aftermath of the Rhodesian conflict and his transition to life post-military.

Andrew also discusses his books, including Bush War Operator and his latest work Skuzapo, which brings to life the stories and perspectives of both black and white Selous Scouts.

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12 Dec 2024UGS Special Edition: General Botha - Rise to Power Part 200:22:08

In this UGS Special Edition, we continue our military legends series by exploring General Louis Botha’s transformative journey from wartime commander to statesman.

In this episode, Max and Tony discuss Botha’s pivotal role in World War I, including his leadership during the Southwest Africa campaign, the challenges of commanding a divided nation, and the moral complexities of fighting alongside the British so soon after the Anglo-Boer War.

They also reach into the dynamics of Botha’s partnership with Jan Smuts—how their unique relationship shaped South Africa’s military and political traditions, and how Botha’s leadership left an enduring mark on the nation.

Let us know if there are other military legends you’d like us to cover in upcoming episodes!

For more on the topic, Tony's book Botha, Smuts and the First World War (available in South African bookstores) provides an in-depth look.

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25 Dec 2024Military Christmas - Reflections and Realities00:35:14

In this edition of Underground Strategy, Max and Tony bring a festive yet poignant twist to the podcast as they explore the traditions, letters, and unique experiences of military personnel during Christmas. From historical moments like the 1914 Christmas Truce to personal reflections from their own deployments, this episode delves into the resilience and camaraderie that emerge in the most challenging circumstances.

Max shares stories of cozy family Christmases alongside recollections of Swedish coffee and festive trimmings on deployments. Tony recounts a warm South African Christmas with deminers, while reflecting on the mix of celebration and loss often faced by those in active duty. They also touch on the famous 1941 Christmas address by Winston Churchill and letters from soldiers in Vietnam, the Gulf War, and even World War II.

This episode pays tribute to service members who find ways to honor the season, no matter where they are stationed, while reminding us of the sacrifices made by those serving during the holidays.

Wishing all listeners a Merry Christmas, whether you're celebrating at home or far away.

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29 Dec 2024Churchill’s Spaniards: A Forgotten Chapter in WWII with Séan Scullion Part 100:47:24

In the final Underground Strategy episode of the year, Max Lauker and Tony Garcia are joined by Séan Scullion—active-duty officer, historian, and author of Churchill’s Spaniards.

Séan shares the remarkable story of Spanish Republicans who, after fighting in the Spanish Civil War, joined the British Army during WWII. These men, fighting for freedom and survival, served in the Pioneer Corps, SAS, and other units across Europe, North Africa, and beyond.

We explore their resilience, bravery, and the challenges they faced as soldiers and survivors. Séan also talks about the eight-year journey that went into writing this book and his connections with the families of these forgotten heroes.

This is part one of a two-part series that highlights an extraordinary but overlooked chapter of WWII history.

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-Churchill and Spain: The Survival of the Franco Regime, 1940-1945 - https://amzn.to/4iTD1mY

-Octubre 1934 - https://amzn.to/41OFJnJ

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05 Jan 2025Churchill’s Spaniards: A Forgotten Chapter in WWII with Séan Scullion Part 200:40:42

We’re kicking off 2025 with the second part of our discussion with Seán Scullion, active-duty officer, historian, and author of Churchill’s Spaniards.

This episode dives deeper into the incredible story of Spanish Republicans who joined the British Army during WWII, continuing their fight against fascism across Europe, North Africa, and beyond.

Séan shares powerful accounts of these men’s bravery and resilience, as well as the challenges they faced as soldiers and survivors. We also touch on the cultural and political complexities surrounding their contributions, both during and after the war.

Start the new year by uncovering more about this overlooked chapter of history.

Thank you for joining us as we begin another exciting year of Underground Strategy.

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12 Jan 2025Hand-to-Hand Combat: Tradition, Training, and Reality00:20:33

In this episode, Max and Tony dive into the myths and realities of hand-to-hand combat. From Hollywood's dramatizations to the harsh realities of the battlefield, they explore how militaries approach close-quarters combat and its role in modern training and operations.

The discussion touches on the evolution of techniques like Krav Maga, the importance of mental and physical toughness, and how these skills translate to other scenarios like close protection. Max reflects on his own training and real-life experiences, offering candid insights into what really works in the heat of the moment.

Tony shares historical examples, from the brutal trench warfare of WWI to modern contexts like Ukraine, and they debate whether hand-to-hand combat remains relevant in today’s world of long-range weaponry and drones.

Whether you’re a martial arts enthusiast, a student of military history, or just curious about the realities behind the movies, this episode offers a thought-provoking take on the art and utility of close combat.

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16 Jan 2025UGS Special: The Battle of Spioenkop – A Masterclass with Robert Davidson00:46:10

In this episode, Max and Tony are joined by Robert Davidson, a South African author and battlefield guide, to explore the history and significance of the Spioenkop campaign during the Anglo Boer War.

Robert shares his lifelong passion for military history, recounting how decades of research culminated in his book on the tragic Spioenkop battle. The discussion highlights the strategic missteps, human stories, and the role of groundbreaking battlefield photography that seared the campaign into public consciousness.

The trio also examines the broader context of the Anglo Boer War, including the political tensions, trench warfare, and the personal narratives of those who lived through it. This episode offers a thoughtful exploration of military geography and history, paired with candid reflections and vivid storytelling.

For those curious about the intersection of history and humanity, this masterclass will leave you with much to reflect on.

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19 Jan 2025British Auxiliary Units with Andrew Chatterton - Part 100:37:47

In this episode of Underground Strategy, we go full cloak and dagger with British auxiliary units, the country’s secret last line of resistance during WWII. Max and Tony are joined by historian Andrew Chatterton, an expert on Britain’s covert civilian forces, to explore the unsung heroes who were prepared to fight from the shadows if the Nazis invaded.

We uncover the origins of these secret units, their training, recruitment, and the ingenious tactics they planned to use against an occupying force. From hidden bunkers and sabotage plans to civilian spies and coded messages in church keys, this episode sheds light on the secret war that never happened—but could have changed history.

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26 Jan 2025British Auxiliary Units with Andrew Chatterton – Part 200:43:18

In this second part of our conversation with Andrew Chatterton, we explore the extreme lengths Britain went to in preparing for a German invasion. From hidden resistance networks to the brutal realities of underground warfare, this episode unpacks the operations that never made the history books.

We also discuss the use of women and teenagers in secret roles, the harsh choices these units had to make, and how their actions would have shaped the fight for Britain. Plus, what would have happened if German infiltrators had made it onto British soil? Andrew walks us through a fascinating counterfactual scenario to test how effective these secret groups really were.

Andrew Chatterton’s Books

Britain’s Secret Defences: Civilian Saboteurs, Spies and Assassins during the Second World War - https://amzn.to/3DYyMXd

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02 Feb 2025Mandela’s War: The ANC’s Military Wing with Thula Simpson01:01:59

Today, we take a deep look into uMkhonto weSizwe (MK), the armed wing of the African National Congress (ANC), and its pivotal role in South African history. Of course, no discussion about MK is complete without exploring the leadership and legacy of Nelson Mandela.

Joining us to break it all down is Professor Thula Simpson, a leading expert on South African history, award-winning author, and researcher who has spent years examining the ANC’s armed struggle.

We dive into how and why MK was formed, the shift from non-violent resistance to armed struggle, Mandela’s radical early years and his strategic role in MK, the evolution of ANC’s military tactics and how they adapted models from global revolutions, the role of key figures like Chris Hani, Joe Slovo, and others in shaping MK’s impact, the internal conflicts within MK and how they affected its trajectory, and the legacy of Mandela and whether his reconciliatory politics were inevitable or strategic.

Thula also sheds light on the rich archival material that has surfaced over the years, providing new insights into the ANC’s military history and the broader liberation struggle.

Books by Thula Simpson:

Umkhonto we Sizwe: The ANC’s Armed Struggle - https://amzn.to/3WnvjrK

The ANC and the Liberation Struggle in South Africa - https://amzn.to/40swKpM

History of South Africa: From 1902 to the Present - https://amzn.to/3PHVPbq

History beyond apartheid: New approaches in South African historiography - https://amzn.to/42nZH9c

The Routledge Companion to Postcolonial African Historiography - https://amzn.to/4g29JzL

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30 Jan 2025UGS Special: Rethinking Warfare with Amos Fox - Part 100:54:29

Amos C. Fox joins Underground Strategy to challenge conventional thinking on modern warfare. From maneuver warfare’s shaky foundations to the realities of attrition, we dig into the strategic narratives shaping today’s conflicts. Are we fighting the wars we think we are, or just the ones doctrine tells us to prepare for?

Amos C. Fox, PhD, is a Fellow with Arizona State University's Future Security Initiative and a lecturer in the Department of Political Science at the University of Houston. He hosts Revolution in Military Affairs, Soldier Pulse, and WarCast, serves on the editorial board of the Journal of Military Studies, and is a senior editor at Small Wars Journal. A retired US Army Lieutenant Colonel, Amos brings over two decades of experience to the conversation.

Conflict Realism: Understanding the Causal Logic of Modern War and Warfare:

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06 Feb 2025UGS Special: Rethinking Warfare with Amos Fox - Part 200:54:22

In Part 2, we continue our hard-hitting conversation with Amos C. Fox, tackling the future of war, the myth of precision strike, and why doctrine often lags behind reality. How do modern militaries adapt—or fail to adapt—to the shifting landscape of conflict? And what lessons should we take forward from past wars into the next fight?

Amos C. Fox, PhD, is a Fellow with Arizona State University's Future Security Initiative and a lecturer in the Department of Political Science at the University of Houston. He hosts Revolution in Military Affairs, Soldier Pulse, and WarCast, serves on the editorial board of the Journal of Military Studies, and is a senior editor at Small Wars Journal. A retired US Army Lieutenant Colonel, Amos brings over two decades of experience to the conversation.

Conflict Realism: Understanding the Causal Logic of Modern War and Warfare:

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09 Feb 2025The 6th Airborne Division – Leadership, Combat, and the Legacy of Ham & Jam00:58:52

Britain’s 6th Airborne Division played a critical role in the success of D-Day and the wider Normandy campaign. Historian and author Andrew Wheale joins the show to unpack how these elite troops were formed, trained, and led into battle. His book, Ham & Jam: 6th Airborne Division in Normandy - Generating Combat Effectiveness: November 1942 – September 1944, explores the factors that shaped their success, from leadership and doctrine to the high-risk, high-impact airborne drops that defined their operations.

Major General Richard Gale’s command style, the brutal engagements of Operation Tonga and Mallard, and the division’s ability to hold the eastern flank under relentless German counterattacks—these are just some of the elements that made 6th Airborne a force to be reckoned with. From meticulous planning to raw aggression, the lessons from their campaign still resonate in modern military leadership today.

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16 Feb 2025Lessons from Stalingrad and Beyond with Desmond Latham00:48:53

Historian, journalist, and podcast host Desmond Latham returns to Underground Strategy for a wide-ranging discussion on warfare, history, and modern conflict. While Stalingrad was on the agenda, this episode moves beyond a single battle—covering urban warfare, women in combat, and the evolution of military doctrine.

From the brutal house-to-house fighting at Stalingrad to the parallels with Mariupol and Bakhmut, we explore the grim realities of urban warfare. The conversation also touches on Soviet military leadership, psychological warfare, and how combat shapes soldiers across history.

Desmond previously hosted the Number 788 miniseries, where he led an in-depth discussion on Max’s book Number 788, now available under the Underground Strategy podcast.

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Desmond Latham’s Blog: https://desmondlatham.blog/

The Battle of Stalingrad Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/7fbukBWd21o7k17V6O4Xzo

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23 Feb 2025Selous Scouts’ Op Long John with Andy Balaam00:52:25

Former Rhodesian Selous Scout Andy Balaam returns to Underground Strategy to break down Operation Long John, one of the most significant cross-border raids into Mozambique during the Bush War.

With ZANLA gaining unrestricted access to Mozambique after the Portuguese withdrawal in 1975, Rhodesian forces had to act fast. Andy shares firsthand insights into the intelligence failures, reconnaissance missions, and high-stakes direct action operations that shaped this mission.

From snatch-and-grab operations to the cancelled plan to hijack a diesel train into Maputo, this episode explores the chaotic planning, brutal realities, and high-risk tactics of Rhodesian counterinsurgency. Andy also discusses his books—Bush War Operator, The Further Operations of a Bush War Operator, and Skuzapo—offering unfiltered accounts of the conflict.

Andy's Work

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Further Memoirs of a Bush War Operator - https://amzn.to/3CYQcmo

Skuzapo: The Untold Story - https://amzn.to/430ijfx

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02 Mar 2025Combat Morale and the Will to Fight with Tom Thorpe00:36:33

What makes soldiers fight—and what makes them stop? Historian, tour guide, and podcaster Tom Thorpe joins Underground Strategy to break down combat morale, motivation, and the will to fight.

We discuss the psychology of combat, small-unit cohesion, leadership, and how motivation shifts across different wars and cultures. From the trenches of World War I to modern warfare, we explore how morale shapes battlefield outcomes—and why it sometimes leads to collapse.

Tom also shares insights from his research on the London Regiment, upcoming books, and what history can teach us about the realities of motivation in war.

Good reads on the subject

On Killing - Lt. Col. Dave Grossman - https://amzn.to/4h8nIEI

Will to Fight - Ben Connable - https://amzn.to/3QIXkGJ

Combat and Morale in the North African Campaign - Jonathan Fennell - https://amzn.to/3XmLINC

The Unforgiving Minute - Craig Mullaney - https://amzn.to/4i3PgMR

Men Against Fire - S.L.A. Marshall - https://amzn.to/3DcwKCX

Tom Thorpe’s Work

Combat Morale Podcast- https://combatmoralepod.com/

Episode 25 with Max Lauker and Tony Garcia - https://open.spotify.com/episode/5ORR55guSbqDg9G1x4Wl4E

The Kensingtons blog - https://kensingtons.org.uk/

Mentioned in Dispatches Podcast Ep 125 with Tony Garcia - https://open.spotify.com/episode/396537t2UVsnoN4dMdmVPc

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09 Mar 2025The Changing War – Thru a Teacher’s Lens00:50:50

How does war change, and what shapes its character over time? Historian and educator Will Gordon joins Underground Strategy to discuss the changing character of war, focusing on the period from 1792 to 1945.

Through the lens of his teaching, Will explores how factors like leadership, doctrine, industrialization, and alliances influenced warfare, and why different conflicts required different approaches. Rather than a straight historical timeline, this conversation examines the themes and shifts that defined military conflict in this era.

We also touch on conscription, national identity, and how military education shapes perspectives on war today, making connections between past and present conflicts.

UGS Recommended reads on the topic

The New Rules of War by Sean McFate - https://amzn.to/3QIl3a3

The Changing Character of War (ed. Hew Strachan) - https://amzn.to/3QJ5tLy


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16 Mar 2025U-Boats at the Cape - South Africa’s Naval Front in World War II00:35:50

Few people think of South Africa when discussing World War II at sea, but its waters played a crucial role in the global conflict. Historian Evert Kleynhans returns to Underground Strategy to uncover the forgotten story of submarine warfare, coastal defenses, and strategic shipping routes off South Africa’s coast.

We explore how German U-boats and Axis surface raiders operated in the region, why the Cape of Good Hope was so strategically important, and how South Africa’s naval defenses evolved to meet the threat.

From signals intelligence and convoy protection to the successes and failures of anti-submarine warfare, this episode sheds light on a rarely discussed front of World War II.

Evert also shares insights from his book on South Africa’s naval war, the challenges of researching this overlooked history, and why these lessons still matter today.

Evert Kleynhans’ Work

The Naval War in South African Waters - https://amzn.to/3DuZJ50

Hitler’s South African Spies - https://amzn.to/43u79jp

The Second World War in East Africa - https://amzn.to/41zapre

20 Battles: Searching for a South African Way of War - https://amzn.to/4iwE4rW

Navigating the New Terrain of Military Operations (Pre Order) - https://amzn.to/3DgrrT7

The Handbook of African Defence and Armed Forces (Pre Order) - https://amzn.to/4ivILlM

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23 Mar 2025Alamo in the Ardennes – with John C. McManus00:39:27

In this episode, military historian John C. McManus joins Underground Strategy to discuss his latest book, Alamo in the Ardennes, and the brutal early fighting during the Battle of the Bulge.

We focus on the often-overlooked role of the 110th Infantry Regiment, whose desperate stand helped delay the German advance toward Bastogne before the arrival of the 101st Airborne. From the shattered remnants of the 28th Infantry Division to the chaos on the ground in Clervaux, John takes us through the battle day by day, including the leadership of Colonel Hurley Fuller and the tragic consequences of being ordered to "hold at all costs."

This is a deep and moving account of courage, sacrifice, and how history sometimes forgets the most critical players.

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30 Mar 2025Catching Up on Ukraine and Life with Kostiantyn Koshelenko00:30:21

In this episode, Tony is catching up with Kostiantyn Koshelenko on the latest developments in Ukraine, updates on his books and ongoing work, and his personal experiences during the war.

Kostiantyn Koshelenko’s Work

Management in Times of War – https://amzn.to/4kF6rpY

LinkedIn – https://linkedin.com/in/koshelenko

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06 Apr 2025Winston Churchill with Peter Caddick-Adams01:09:55

Military historian and author Peter Caddick-Adams joins Underground Strategy for a wide-ranging conversation on leadership, legacy, and the life of Winston Churchill.

We explore Churchill’s wartime decisions, his eccentric personality, his genius for messaging, and the long arc of a career that spanned cavalry charges to the nuclear age. Peter also shares firsthand insights from his time as a NATO historian and discusses how battlefield experience, archival research, and media strategy all shaped Churchill’s story—and continue to influence how we study and remember war.

This episode covers everything from Churchill’s infamous boiler suit to his complex relationship with Roosevelt, his financial struggles, and whether Volodymyr Zelensky truly deserves the label of a “modern Churchill.”

Peter Caddick-Adams’ Work

X (Twitter) – https://x.com/militaryhistori

Winston Churchill: The Prime Ministers Series – https://amzn.to/43v15r1

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13 Apr 2025The Quicksilver Captain – With Jacqueline Reiter00:30:25

This week on Underground Strategy, we’re joined by historian and author Jacqueline Reiter to explore the extraordinary life of Sir Home Riggs Popham, the naval officer at the heart of her book Quicksilver Captain.

From Buenos Aires to the Cape of Good Hope, Popham was everywhere—and often where he shouldn’t have been. We unpack his role in British high strategy during the French Revolutionary and Napoleonic Wars, his infamous court-martial, his impact on naval signaling, and his talent for navigating both military disaster and political opportunity.

Was he a maverick, a genius, or a fraud? Jacqueline digs into the archival trail and explains how Popham remains one of the most complex (and oddly useful) figures of the period.

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03 Apr 2025UGS Special: UGS x Durham SGIA - Peacekeeping – Part 100:53:41

In collaboration with Durham University, this special student-led episode explores contemporary challenges of United Nations peacekeeping. Recorded as part of the postgraduate module “Contemporary Challenges of United Nations Peacekeeping (SGIA48815)” at Durham’s School of Government and International Affairs, the conversation brings together real-world experience and academic insight.

Max and Tony reflect on their deployments and contrast national military structures with multinational peacekeeping efforts. From the role of special forces and intelligence sharing to the challenges of building military culture in complex operations, this episode examines what happens when mandates, strategy, and ground realities don’t always align.

With contributions from Durham’s Class of 2025, this discussion sets the stage for Part 2—featuring former UN diplomat Peter de Clercq.

Durham SGIA X: https://x.com/durham_sgia

Module Handbook: https://apps.dur.ac.uk/faculty.handbook/2022/PG/module/SGIA48815

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Does Peacekeeping Work? by Virginia Page Fortna – https://amzn.to/3XK5CCl

Understanding Peacekeeping by Paul D. Williams – https://amzn.to/4iV0SlS

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10 Apr 2025UGS Special: UGS x Durham - Peacekeeping – Part 200:36:47

This episode is part of a special collaboration with Durham University’s School of Government and International Affairs. This student-led episode was created as part of the postgraduate module “Contemporary Challenges of United Nations Peacekeeping (SGIA48815)” for the Class of 2025.

In Part 2, we’re joined by veteran UN official and former Assistant Secretary-General Peter de Clercq, who shares deep insights into the evolution of peacekeeping, regional coalitions, accountability, intelligence, and reform. Drawing from decades of experience in Haiti, Somalia, and the DRC, Peter offers a masterclass in the current and future challenges facing peacekeeping operations.

Durham SGIA X - https://x.com/durham_sgia

Durham Module Handbook - https://apps.dur.ac.uk/faculty.handbook/2022/PG/module/SGIA48815

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Does Peacekeeping Work? by Virginia Page Fortna – https://amzn.to/3XK5CCl

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20 Apr 2025UGS x Jack Bowsher: Tank Warfare in Burma – Part 100:41:29

We’re heading deep into the jungles of Southeast Asia to unpack one of the most overlooked and misunderstood campaigns of the Second World War—the Burma campaign. In Part 1 of this two-part conversation, military historian and author Jack Bowsher joins Max and Tony to break down the brutal terrain, Japanese tactics, and the challenges faced by the multinational Allied forces in Burma.

We explore the strategic importance of Burma to the Allied war effort, the jungle’s deadly environment, and why tanks—despite everything you might assume—played a critical role in the campaign’s outcome. Jack also explains how the British and Indian armies functioned as distinct yet overlapping forces, and why the Japanese military was both fanatically aggressive and operationally effective—until they weren’t.

This is a masterclass in the forgotten mechanics of jungle warfare, full of rich detail, wild stories, and some very human lessons from the world’s most unforgiving terrain.

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Forgotten Armour: Tank Warfare in Burma – https://amzn.to/4ctduyd

Thunder Run (pre-order) – https://www.chiselbury.co.uk/coming-soon/p/thunder-run-meiktila-1945-by-jack-bowsher

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