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16 Jan 2017Scott Peterson Part 201:05:24
This is part 2 (and final part) of the Scott Peterson story. Gibby and I finish up this sad and tragic tale of the death of Laci Peterson and her unborn son Conner Join us as we discuss the details of the discovery of the bodies down to conviction. This case shows what pure evil is and how a master manipulator can be so callous that they can harm two of the people that should have meant the most to him. Please visit our website at http://truecrimeallthetime.com for all info related to the show. If you like the show please rate us on iTunes. You can help support the show financially for as little as $2 a month by going to our Patreon page. You can find it  through our website by clicking on the Patreon button. And please tell your friends who enjoy true crime about the podcast!   Episode sponsor: SimpliSafe sponsored this episode. Simplisafe is an industry leader in the home security field. They are offering our listeners $200 off of their defender package if you use the url www.simplisafe.com/crime.   True Crime All The Time is an Emash Digital production. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
06 Mar 2017Danny Rolling01:14:00
Danny Harold Rolling was a convicted serial killer that was also known as the "Gainesville Ripper". Rolling terrorized the college town of Gainesville in 1990 by committing 5 horrific murders. These were not the only murders that Rolling committed but they are those that he is the most infamous for committing. Join Gibby and I as we discuss the interesting aspects of Rolling's early life and how those events may have contributed to the monster that he would become. We also talk about other suspects and how they were handled by the police. Ultimately we get to the fate of Danny Rolling and the twists and turns involved in his capture and final days. Visit our website at http://truecrimeallthetime.com for all of our contact and merchandising info. Please rate/review the show on iTunes or your favorite Android podcast app. Tell your true crime loving friends about the podcast as well!     True Crime All The Time is an Emash Digital Production See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
05 Dec 2016BTK Dennis Rader Part 101:09:32
Dennis Rader, better known by BTK (for Bind, Torture, Kill) terrorized Wichita Kansas for nearly thirty years. He committed 10 murders in total between 1974 and 1991 but would elude the police for many years after that. He was a vicious psychopath and sexual sadist. He trolled for victims every day and stalked what he called his "projects". This is episode 1 of a multi-part episode on BTK. There is so much to cover that we just couldn't fit into one episode. Please visit the show's website at http://truecrimeallthetime.com. Click through our Amazon banner for all of your Amazon shopping this holiday season. They will give some love back to the show and it won't cost you any extra on your purchases. Check out the contact section of the website for all of the ways to follow the show on social media (Facebook, Twitter, Instragram, and Tumblr). Please subscribe to the show, rate, review, and tell a friend! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
05 Jun 2017The Killing Cousins01:14:43
David Alan Gore and Fred Waterfield were cousins who formed a deadly serial killing duo in Florida in the 1980s. Their murderous ways would earn them the title of the "Killing Cousins. They would combine to commit numerous sexual assaults and murders over the years. Join Mike and Gibby as they cover this fascinating case of two cousins who shared the same demented sexual fantasies. What happened during their early years that would lead them down the path of combining forces to act out on these fantasies. Visit our website at truecrimeallthetime.com for contact and merchandise information. Please rate us on ITunes or your favorite Android App. You can help support the show by going to patreon.com/truecrimeallthetime     An Emash Digital Production See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
27 Mar 2017Pamela Smart01:18:36
The case and trial of Pamela Smart for her role in her husband's death gripped the entire country. The first trial to be televised live in it's entirety, it ushered in the era of "trial watching". This case was filled with salacious details that cause the media to flock to New Hampshire to cover it. You had the death of a young husband and a wife who was a teacher that was having an affair with her young student. People could not get enough of all the sordid details that would come out. Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss the story of Pamela Smart and the murder of her husband Gregory Smart. If you want details, we've got details! Visit our website at www.truecrimeallthetime.com for all of our contact and merchandise information. Please rate/review us on itunes and follow the show on all its various social media accounts. We love to interact with our listeners. You can support the show by going to www.patreon.com/truecrimeallthetime And please support our sponsor for this episode Hello Fresh: Go to www.hellofresh.com and use our promo code truecrime to get $35 off your first week of deliveries. You're going to be glad you did when you taste that food!   An Emash Digital Production See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
01 May 2017Israel Keyes01:26:06
Israel Keyes has been called by FBI profilers as one of the most methodical and cunning serial killers of modern times. Keyes has admitted to 10 murders but police and the FBI think they are able to tie his movements to at least 36. The fact is the number could be much higher. Keyes planned his murders down to the smallest details. He would hide caches of his murder tools in various locations as much as 2 years in advance of a murder. He would fly and drive very long distances to avoid any trail leading back to him. He had developed an ironclad set of rules by which he operated. Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss this very intelligent monster. The randomness of his victims, his meticulous planning, and flawless execution allowed Keyes to operate in the shadows for at least 14 years. His undoing would result from not following his rules that he had set to the letter. Visit our website at truecrimeallthetime.com for all of our social media and merchandise information. Follow us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram. Don't forget to check out our other podcast True Crime All The Time Unsolved. Stay safe and keep your own time ticking.   An Emash Digital Production See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
23 Jan 2017The Stalking and Murder of Actress Rebecca Shaeffer01:08:18
Rebecca Shaeffer was an up and coming actress in the late 1980's. She had already landed roles in a soap opera, on a sitcom, and in several movies. She had fans all over the world. But one fan in particular, Robert John Bardo, would develop an obsession with Rebecca that would ultimately lead to murder. Join Gibby and I as we detail out this case that would be the catalyst for many of the anti-stalking laws that are on the books today. Visit our website at http://truecrimeallthetime.com where you'll find all of our contact information. You can click through to our Patreon page if you want to help support the show financially. Please rate/review us on ITunes and don't forget that our new podcast True Crime All The Time Unsolved is out now as well.     An Emash Digital Production See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
02 Jan 2017Scott Peterson Part 101:16:37
Scott Peterson returned home from a fishing trip on Christmas Eve 2002 to find that his wife Laci was not at home. Laci Peterson was 8 months pregnant at the time that she went missing. Volunteers from all over would flock to assist in the search for Laci.   The story would quickly become headline news on every outlet. Scott would come under intense scrutiny as many of his secrets would be revealed in front of the whole world. Join Gibby and I for part 1 of this story as we discuss the circumstances around Laci's disappearance and the revelations that caused her husband Scott to become the prime suspect. Please visit our website http://truecrimeallthetime.com for all info related to the show. If you like the show rate/review us on ITunes. You can help the show financially for as little as $2 a month by clicking on the Patreon button on our website. Tell your friends who enjoy true crime! Episode Sponsors: Sockclub - Go to www.sockclub.com and use the discount code "TRUECRIME" at check out to receive 15% off your order. Sock club subscriptions make the perfect gift at any time of the year. SimpliSafe - SimpliSafe is an industry leader in the home security field. They are offering TCATT listeners $200 off their Defender package if use the url www.simplisafe.com/crime. SimpliSafe offers advanced protection features with a monitoring price that is up to 1/3 of others in the industry.   True Crime All The Time is an Emash Digital, LLC Production See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
27 Feb 2017David Parker Ray - The ToyBox Killer01:17:10
David Parker Ray aka "The ToyBox Killer" was a convicted serial rapist and a suspected serial killer. While no bodies have ever been found, the evidence points to a body count that ranges from 14-60 people. Ray targeted women and used various ways to get them back to what he called his ToyBox. This ToyBox was a homemade torture chamber that Ray filled with many different types of torture implements. Join Mike and Gibby as they navigate through the demented life of David Parker Ray, his crimes, his accomplices, and how it all unfolded. Visit the show's website at http://truecrimeallthetime.com for all of our social media information. Drop us a voicemail. We have a new merchandise shop that is up now and you'll find that information on the website as well. If you enjoy the show please rate and review us on Itunes and make sure you tell your friends who like true crime about the show!     An Emash Digital Production See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
12 Jun 2017Dorothea Puente "The Death House Landlady"01:17:13
In the 1980s, Dorothea Puente ran a boarding house for tenants many of whom were elderly or mentally disabled. On the outside it appeared that Puente was providing a much needed service to individuals that may have had no where else to turn. But in reality, she was murdering these individuals so that she could profit from their benefit checks long after they were dead. Join Mike and Gibby as they wade through the twists and turns of this fascinating case of Puente who become known as the "Death House Landlady". Puente may have appeared as loving grandmother to many but her lust for money ran extremely deep. Visit our website truecrimeallthetime.com for contact and merchandise information. You can help support the show by going to patreon.com/truecrimeallthetime     An Emash Digital Production See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
26 Jan 2017The Parents of Lauren Landavazzo Speak Out00:46:26
I was fortunate to be able to sit down with Vern and Bianka Landavazzo. Listeners will remember that Lauren Landavazzo was killed in the senseless tragedy we covered in the listener hometown episode we released last week. In this special episode interview, Vern and Bianka talk about Lauren and shed more light on this tragic case. You do not want the miss this powerful conversation. We discuss how the laws of Texas (and most other states) are woefully inadequate in what types of punishments are allowed in these cases where children are murdered. I was outraged and you will be too.         An Emash Digital Production See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
22 Feb 2017Christian Longo01:18:21
Christian Longo was raised in a very strict Jehovah's Witness household. He would marry at an early age and would soon have three young children. Christian had an obsession with the good life but unfortunately he didn't have the means to have everything he wanted. To friends and family, the Longo family was doing well. Longo put out an image that he was doing better financially than he really was. He became a con man and would go on to do the worst thing imaginable that any husband/father could every do. Join Gibby and I as we discuss all of the details of this chilling case. Make sure you check out our website at truecrimeallthetime.com. Rate/review us on iTunes and tell all of your true crime loving friends about the show. Goto www.audible.com/truecrime to get a free 30 day membership and 1 free audio book. This is a free offer than you can't turn down!     True Crime All The Time is an Emash Digital Production See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
28 Nov 2016Alton Coleman and Debra Brown01:06:52
In 1984, Alton Coleman and Debra Brown went on a deadly killing spree that spanned 6 states. In a short time span of 2 months this deadly duo committed 8 murders, 7 rapes, and 3 kidnappings. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
19 Jan 2017Listener Hometown #1 Jorden01:12:22
On September 2nd, 2016 Kody Lott allegedly gunned down one precious 13 year old girl and wounded another in Wichita Falls, TX. We use the word allegedly only because he has yet to be tried and convicted. He has admitted to the crimes. The circumstances, details, and motives behind the crimes are what will amaze you. Both of the girls involved in this case were beloved and we honor the memory of Lauren Landavazo who lost her life and Mikayla Smith who was injured but had the courage to help police capture the man who murdered her best friend. This is our first listener hometown episode. Jorden joins Gibby and myself to talk about the events of the case. She lived in the area where this crime took place and is able to provide details that most people would never be able to understand unless they lived in the community during this terrible event. We hope to make these listener hometown episodes a regular part of the True Crime All The Time lineup. The timing will depend on how much people enjoy them and how many listeners want to join us to talk about a case that happened in their area. Please visit our website at http://truecrimeallthetime.com and click on our Patreon button to go to our Patreon page to see what we have there. Gibby and I have begun taping something before every episode to put on the Patreon page. You can support the show through Patreon for as little as $2 a month. And don't forget that this Sunday is the premier episode or our new podcast True Crime All The Time Unsolved. The introduction is out now on iTunes or for android so make sure you subscribe so that you get all new episodes. I promise you that you do not want to miss this first episode. We have an amazing special guest and she joins us to talk about the murder of her identical twin sister 21 years ago. She has been fighting everyday since that time to find the killer and bring him to justice. It is a very powerful episode.   True Crime All The Time is an Emash Digital Production See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
29 May 2017Arthur Shawcross Part201:27:31
Arthur Shawcross was one of the most vile serial killers to ever live. The crimes that he committed are gruesome and hard to phathom. The stories that he would tell after his capture are even more outlandish. Join Mike and Gibby for the final chapter of the Arthur Shawcross saga. The "2nd chapter" of Arthur's reign of terror was even more heinous than his first. After being let out of prison far too early he would go on to committ a slew of vicious murders. Check out our website at truecrimeallthetime.com for all of the show's contact and merchandise info. You can help support the show by going to patreon.com/truecrimeallthetime Thank you to everyone that listens and supports the show. We could not do this without you! Please take some time to rate/review the show and to tell your friends about it.     An Emash Digital Production See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
24 Apr 2017The Wichita Massacre01:26:21
December 8th, 2000 was the beginning of a week long reign of terror committed by brothers Reginald and Jonathan Carr. These violent acts would grip the area and would become known as the Wichita Massacre. You will also see it sometimes as the Wichita Horror. Join Mike and Gibby as they cover every horrifying and despicable detail of this tragic case. The violence perpetrated by the Carr brothers is something that has to be hard to be believed. The randomness with which they selected their targets is chilling and scary in its own right. Thank you to everyone who supports the show. We could not make this possible without you. There are so many ways to support us. You can support the show financially for as little as $2 a month by going to www.patreon.com/truecrimeallthetime Another great way to help support the show is by going out on iTunes or your android app of choice and leaving us a rating and review. Check out our website www.truecrimeallthetime for all of our contact and merchandise info. Check out this week's sponsors for the show as well: Go to www.trytula.com/TCATT and use the promo code Hello20 to get 20% off your order of their probiotic based skin care line of products. Go to www.gofreshbooks.com/TCATT to get a 30 day free trial of their amazing accounting/invoice software.   An Emash Digital Production See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
22 May 2017Arthur Shawcross Part101:34:13
Arthur Shawcross was an American serial killer who was given the moniker of "The Genesee River Killer" among many others. The stories that he would tell would be so fantastic that it is hard to separate fact from fiction. What we do know, though, is that the murders that Shawcross committed rank up there with some of the most horrific ever on record. Shawcross had two different chapters in his life. He was incarcerated in the early 1970s for committing some very brutal murders. Somehow he was paroled in the 1980s which allowed him to embark on another murder spree. In this first episode of Arthur Shawcross, Mike and Gibby talk about Arthur's early formative years and how they may have influenced his murderous ways. They will focus on the details of the murders he committed in his first "chapter", his eventual capture, and how the system allowed this brutal human being back out on the streets again. Please rate/review us on itunes or your favorite android app. Visit our website truecrimeallthetime.com for all of the show's information. And you can support the show at patreon.com/truecrimeallthetime.    Stay safe and keep your own time ticking!   An Emash Digital Production See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
08 May 2017Jeremy Bryan Jones01:23:48
Jeremy Bryan Jones would start out his murderous career in Oklahoma at the young age of 19. After finally being apprehended he would confess to 20 murders spanning 13 years. The problem with many of his confessions is that police had a hard time finding the evidence to link him to the murders outside of just the confession. Jones was a meth addict and blamed his actions on the drug. He would cultivate a 2nd life while on the run as a fugitive. There is no doubt that Jones was a monster. The question is how many people did he actually murder and how many lives did he ruin? Join Mike and Gibby and as they discuss the details of this interesting case. How did Jones elude the police for such a long period of time? How many of his confessions are actually true and did he make some of them up to get extra perks while in jail? Visit our website at www.truecrimeallthetime.com for our social media and merchandise information. Right now all merch is 10% off! Please take the time to rate/review us on iTunes or your favorite android app. You can also support the show by going to patreon.com/truecrimeallthetime But above all else, stay safe and keep your own time ticking!     An Emash Digital Production See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
12 Dec 2016BTK Dennis Rader Part 301:18:56
The last part of the BTK trilogy! We continue with the last two BTK murders, his resurface after a long hiatus, and his ultimate arrest. It's fascinating after he resurfaces how he wants to communicate with both the media and law enforcement. His lack of knowledge about computers leads to his downfall. Please visit the show's website at htt://truecrimeallthetime.com to see all the ways to interact with us through social media. Click through our Amazon banner for all your holiday shopping. Amazon gives back to the show with no extra cost to you. We have a new sponsor - Sock Club. Visit sockclub.com and use the discount code TRUECRIME to receive 15% off your order. Please subscribe to the show if you haven't already and rate/review. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
05 Apr 2017Jerome Brudos01:16:32
Jerome "Jerry" Brudos was an American serial killer. He was also known as the "lust killer" and the "shoe fetish slayer". Gibby and I both agree that the latter name is a much more accurate and descriptive nickname for Brudos. But that nickname doesn't even begin to depict the true horror behind Jerry Brudos. Join Mike and Gibby as they talk about the early life, the fetishes, and horrible crimes of Jerry Brudos. This guy took his fetish to the worst possible level. Visit our website at www.truecrimeallthetime.com for all of our contact and merchandise information. We have new stickers up on the store for sale. If you like the show please take the time to rate/review us on ITunes or your favorite Android app. We appreciate all of our listeners and the tremendous amount of support that you give to us! Hello Fresh is sponsoring this episode. Help support the show by supporting Hello Fresh! It's the most delicious decision you will ever make and they have just lowered their prices. Go to www.hellofresh.com and use our promo code truecrime30. An Emash Digital Production See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
16 Jan 2017Alton Nolen01:03:15
In 2014, Alton Nolen committed one of the most shocking acts of workplace revenge violence in recent history. Join Gibby and I as we walk through the details of the case, the possible motives, the religious and racial aspects that caused a media frenzy. We have several big announcements in this episode that you do not want to miss! Visit our website at http://truecrimeallthetime.com and follow us on Facebook at www.facebook/truecrimeallthetime. You can help support the show on our Patreon page for as little as $2 per month. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
24 Dec 2016Xmas Spectacular00:48:59
Join Gibby and I as we take turns detailing some of the craziest crimes to happy around the Christmas holiday time. We have a mix of heinous family massacres, strange and bizarre crimes, and some on the lighter side (we can't make them all too dark at this joyous time of year!) True Crime All The Time wishes all of our listeners a happy Holiday. Thank you so much for your continued support of the show. It is amazing what you've built us up to in a month's time! Please visit our website http://truecrimeallthetime.com for all the information you need related to the show. You can help support the show through the Patreon button for as little as $2 a month. Support our sponsors: Go to http://sockclub.com and receive 15% off your order when you use the discount code "TRUECRIME". These socks are amazing and anyone you give a subscription to will love you for it! Switch to a Simplisafe home security system and get the best and most affordable protection in the industry. Go to www.simplisafe.com/crime to get $200 off SimpliSafe's Defender security package. This is an amazing deal and will not last long. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
15 May 2017Christopher Wilder - The Beauty Queen Killer01:35:12
Christopher Bernard Wilder, also known as The Beauty Queen Killer, was a serial killer who abducted and raped at least twelve women, killing at least eight of them, during a six-week cross-country crime spree in the United States of America in early 1984. His series of murders began in Florida on February 26, 1984, and continued across the country through Texas, Oklahoma, Colorado, Nevada, California and New York. Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss the details of this devious murderer: His early childhood, his MO, and the techniques he used to lure his victims. We also delve into the many crimes that he may be linked to across the country and back in his native Australia. Wilder was a cunning predator who would stop at nothing to satisfy his demented urges. It is very likely that his final murder count is much higher than has been proven. Visit our website at www.truecrimeallthetime.com for all of our contact and merchandising info. We are currently running a 10% sale off all merchandise. You can support the show by going to patreon.com/truecrimeallthetime   Stay safe and keep your own time ticking!   An Emash Digital Production See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
24 Nov 2016Introduction00:04:43
This is a short introduction to my new true crime podcast about crime, serial and non-serial murder. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
30 Jan 2017Donald Harvey "The Angel of Death"01:18:53
Donald Harvey earned the nickname "The Angel of Death" by killing somewhere between 37-70 individuals. Most of these murders occurred while Harvey worked in various hospitals in Kentucky and Ohio. Donald Harvey preyed on the most vulnerable people when committing his crimes. Donald Harvey would later try to say that he was a mercy killer and was ending the pain and suffering of the people that he killed. But the facts of his murders don't support those assertions. Join Gibby and I as we discuss this prolific serial killer. Visit our website at http://truecrimeallthetime.com. You can support the show for as little as $2 a month by clicking on the button that takes you to our Patreon page. If you like the show please rate and review us on iTunes and tell all of your true crime loving friends. Don't forget that we now have a new spin-off podcast called True Crime All The Time Unsolved where we delve into history's most fascinating unsolved cases.   True Crime All The Time is an Emash Digital Production See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
19 Dec 2016Melissa Huckaby01:08:50
8 year old Sandra Cantu went missing from the mobile home park she lived at on March 27, 2009. A massive search would begin immediately for the little girl. Suspicion would soon fall on the most unlikeliest of suspects, a 28 year old woman who lived in the same mobile home park and taught Sunday school. The facts of this case are so bizarre that they are hard to believe. Join Gibby and I as we discuss the facts of the case along with an assortment of clips from both families, the ensuing trial, and the actual murderer. Please visit our website http://truecrimeallthetime.com for all the information you need related to the show. You can help support the show through the Patreon button for as little as $2 a month. We will be putting our more and more content on Patreon for patrons only including audio of what hit the cutting room floor. Support our sponsors: Go to http://sockclub.com and receive 15% off your order by using the discount code "TRUECRIME". SockClub is offering this amazing discount to our podcast listeners and we appreciate their partnership. Switch to a Simplisafe home security system and get the best and most affordable protection in the industry. Go to www.simplisafe.com/crime to get $200 off SimpliSafe's Defender package. This is an amazing deal and will not last long. Last but not least, Gibby and I want to thank all of our TCATT listeners! It is amazing how quickly we have climbed the charts and you have so much to do with that. We hope you continue to support us and we'll continue to do our very best to provide you with quality content. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
12 Mar 2017Tommy Lynn Sells01:23:32
Tommy Lynn Sells was a prolific serial killer who travelled the country extensively killing indiscrimately along the way. Because of his extensive travel and the fact that he murderd all over the country he is often referred to as the "Coast to Coast" killer. Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss the details of the horrific crimes committed by Sells, his childhood, and other factors that led him to become the monster he did. Visit our website at http://truecrimeallthetime.com for contact, merchandise, and donation information. If you haven't already please go out on itunes and give us that coveted 5 star rating! It really goes a long way to helping other people find the podcast. March is #Trypod month so make sure you introduce some of your favorite podcasts to your friends and relatives!     True Crime All The Time is an Emash Digital Production See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
21 Mar 2017The Chicago Ripper Crew01:12:12
The Chicago Ripper Crew was comprised of four men who committed unspeakable murders. They were responsible for the disappearances of at least 18 women in Illinois in the early 80s. They formed what would be best described as a satanic cult and developed their own sick rituals. Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss the sick and twisted murders committed by the Chicago Ripper Crew, the strange satanic aspects of the case, and the connection with members of the crew to one John Wayne Gacy. Visit the show's website at www.truecrimeallthetime.com for show contact and merchandise info.   Sponsors Hello Fresh - visit www.hellofresh.com and use our show promo code truecrime to get $35 off your first weeks order. Discover the Hello Fresh Way!     An Emash Digital Production See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
30 Nov 2016Richard "The Iceman" Kuklinski00:52:14
Richard "The Iceman" Kuklinski committed his first murder at the age of 14. In his early days he killed anyone that annoyed or slighted him. He went on to become a mafia hitman and eventually formed his own crime ring. He earned the Iceman moniker for his method of freezing his victims, sometimes for years, in order to confuse law enforcement as to the victim's time of death. Law enforcement believes that the body count of The Iceman could be as high as 200. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
07 Dec 2016BTK Dennis Rader Part 201:15:03
This is part 2 of the BTK - Dennis Rader episode. We continue talking about the vicious murders committed by Rader and his technique of trolling for and stalking his victims (which he calls his "projects"). There is so much information to be shared about Rader that we will finish up with part 3 which should come out Sunday night. Please visit the show's website at http://truecrimeallthetime.com. Click through the Amazon banner for all of your Amazon shopping. Click on the contact page to see all the ways you can follow and interact with the show - We have a Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and Tumblr page. You can see our voicemail number so that you can leave a message if you want it to be heard on the next episode. We really want to interact with the listeners so feel free to send us a message on any of these platforms. Please subscribe to the show if you haven't already and rate and review on whatever platform you use to listen to the show. Share the show's Facebook posts on your own timeline so that your friends can see (you know you have some closest true crime friends!) Your support has been amazing and we can't tell you enough how much it means that so many people are downloading and listening to the show! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
17 Apr 2017Christopher Porco01:13:00
Christopher Porco was charged and convicted of killing his father and attempting to kill his mother with a fireman's axe. Did this young man who grew up in a normal loving family actually try to kill his mother and father to gain their money? Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss the facts of this fascinating case: The evidence against Christopher Porco, the timeline of his actions in the early hours of the attack, and what was bubbling beneath the surface of his seemingly normal life. Visit our website at truecrimeallthetime.com for contact and merchandise information. Follow the show on Facebook, twitter, and Instagram. If you like the show please take the time to rate/review it on ITunes or your favorite android app.   An Emash Digital Production See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
06 Feb 2017Leonard Lake and Charles Ng01:19:20
Leonard Lake and Charles Ng paired together to become a deadly pair of serial killers in California in the 1980s. They held captives in a homemade bunker until they would ultimately murder them. Their victims included men, women, and children. One of the most chilling aspects of their crimes is that they videotaped much of them. The police would ultimately discover the bunker and the remains of at least 11 victims. The count could be as high as 25. The story gets really crazy when the police are finally able to catch up to the pair. Join Gibby and I as we discuss the details of this fascinating case. Lake and Ng may be two of the most twisted individuals we've ever covered. Visit our website at http://truecrimeallthetime.com. You can support the show by going to our Patreon page at patreon.com/truecrimeallthetime. And please tell your friends who enjoy true crime about the podcast and take the time to rate/review us on iTunes.     An Emash Digital Production See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
10 Apr 2017Robert Pickton01:28:10
Robert Pickton is one of Canada's most notorious serial killers. He has admitted murdering as many as 49 but the numbers may be higher. Pickton preyed on the vulnerable in Vancouver's Eastside. Pickton owned a pig farm which he used to his advantage in disposing of the bodies of the many that he murdered. Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss the bizarre elements of this case, how Pickton's early life may have led to his later behavior, and how the police may have been able to end his reign of terror much earlier. Visit our website at truecrimeallthetime.com for all of our contact and merchandise information. Please rate/review the show on iTunes or your favorite android app. You can help support the show by going to Patreon.com/truecrimeallthetime   An Emash Digital Production See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
13 Feb 2017Herb Baumeister - The I70 Strangler01:22:11
Herb Baumeister was a family man who had built a successful business. But behind the façade, police say that Herb was a prolific serial killer whose ultimate body count may never be known. Join Gibby and I to hear the fascinating details about this case. There are so many different twists and turns that its tough to fit into one episode. Check out our other podcast True Crime All The Time Unsolved! Visit our website at http://truecrimeallthetime.com for all important info regarding the show. Please rate and review us on ITunes and tell a friend about the show.       An Emash Digital Production See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
18 Nov 2019Elroy Chester01:20:56

We're headed to Texas to discuss the life and crimes of Elroy Chester. Chester began as a burglar early in life and spent years in prison on those charges. After he was paroled he started right back up again. But, this time around, he was not content with breaking into homes and stealing things. He began committing sexual assaults and murders.

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss Elroy Chester's crimes. This is a death penalty case where the question was raised regarding Chester's low mental capacity. His low intelligence was pretty well documented over the years including tests while he was in elementary school that placed him special education classes. However, the State argued that the steps Elroy went through while committing his crimes showed a level of sophistication that far exceeded his IQ scores. Elroy Chester left a big path of destruction in the Port Arthur, Texas area.

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02 Oct 2023Tia Skinner01:06:59

In November 2010, two men attacked Paul Skinner and Mara Skinner inside their home in Yale, Michigan. Paul died from multiple stab wounds, but Mara survived. The attack was orchestrated by their adopted daughter, Tia Skinner. 

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss Tia Skinner. By most accounts, Tia grew up in a loving environment after she and her brother were adopted by their aunt and uncle. Many people said Paul and Mara treated them no differently than their two biological children. So what went wrong to cause Tia to recruit two men to enter their home at night and murder the Skinners? The details are shocking.

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16 Nov 2017Bonus: Thanksgiving Binge00:04:10

Mike chats with Marissa Jones of The Vanished about their favorite episodes on each other's podcasts!

Feast on these shows @ www.Wondery.com/Thanksgiving  


True Crime All The Time Binge:

Dirty John - Ep 1

Young Charlie - Ep 1

How Did This Get Made? - Ep 162

The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - Ep 701

Joe Rogan - Ep 931


The Vanished Binge:

The Apex and The Abyss - Thurston High School Shooting

The Generation Why Podcast - Pamela Hupp

True Crime All the Time - Austin Sigg

Pleasing Terrors - Sins of the Father

They Walk Among Us - Season 2 Episode 7 Bijan Ebrahimi

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18 Mar 2024Lucille Miller01:17:15

On October 8th, 1964, Dr. Gordon E. Miller was burned alive in a car fire on a lonely, dark road in San Bernardino County. Gordon's wife Lucille said they were returning from the store when the car suddenly caught fire. She said she did everything she could to save him, but the authorities did not believe her.

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss Lucille Miller and the murder of her husband, Gordon. Lucille had some burns, but they were not viewed as being consistent with trying to save her husband. When investigators learned she was having an affair, their attention towards her only intensified.

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23 Mar 2020Robert Berdella01:22:51

Bob Berdella murdered at least six men in Kansas City, Missouri in the 1980s. When he was finally caught and all the details of his crimes came out, the press dubbed him "The Butcher of Kansas City" and "The Kansas City Butcher". Berdella drugged, sexually assaulted, tortured and murdered his victims. He was a sadist and his crimes were extremely brutal.

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss the life and crimes of Robert Berdella. What was it, exactly, that caused Berdella to begin murdering when he was in his thirties? For much of his life he appeared to be an upstanding citizen who always held a job, started his own business, and owned his own house. But something was festering inside Bob that he began acting on in the 1980s. He began luring men back to his house with evil intentions.

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21 Jun 2021Benjamin Atkins01:13:40

Benjamin Atkins was a serial killer and rapist who operated in the Detroit area in 1991 and 1992. He is considered by the FBI to be America's fastest serial killer because he murdered 11 women in such a short span of time. Atkins preyed on women along Detroit's Woodward Avenue and his M.O. remained consistent. He targeted sex workers because his mother was a sex worker who took him with her and he was forced to see things that no child should have to witness.

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss the horrific details of serial killer Benjamin Atkins. He took the lives of 11 women during an 8-9 month time span, but, it was his only victim that managed to escape who ultimately brought him down. Atkins experienced a terrible childhood, and his defense argued that it was this childhood that ultimately made him the predator he became.

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24 Aug 2020The Murder of Julie Love01:11:17

On July 11th, 1988, 27-year-old Julie Love was on her way home from a meeting when she disappeared. Her car was found a few days later and police theorized that she had run out of gas and met with foul play. It became a highly publicized missing persons case and the pressure was on the police to solve it. Julie's family did everything they could to find their daughter. They knew she had not run off because she and her boyfriend, Mark Kaplan, had been talking marriage.

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss the disappearance and murder of Julie Love. Over a year after Julie disappeared, a 34-year-old woman named Janice Weldon came forward to say that her 24-year-old boyfriend, Emmanuel Hammond, and his 18-year-old cousin, Maurice Porter, were responsible for Julie's murder. This was the information that police needed but had been unable to get on their own. There are a number of twists and turns in this case. Race became a huge factor in this case as an attorney and a judge were killed by mail bombs and a white supremacist group took credit for the killings.

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06 Aug 2018Robert Garrow01:11:28

Robert Garrow went on a killing spree in New York in the 1970s after having spent 8 years in prison due to a rape conviction. The police manhunt that ensued was the biggest in New York history up to that point. The details of his capture and eventual escape are fascinating.

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss the life and crimes of Robert Garrow. His might be one of the most unbelievable childhoods that the show has ever covered. And you won't believe the details of his manipulation in prison that led to his escape.

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08 Mar 2021Mark Valera01:03:24

Mark Valera claims that his father Jack Van Krevel abused him while he lived at home. By the age of 19, Mark had moved out of the home and changed his last name to Valera. The hatred he felt toward his father grew and he took it out by murdering two men, David O'Hearn and Frank Arkell.

Join Mike and Gibby as they head to Wollongong, Australia to talk about teenage murderer Mark Valera. Valera later told police that he believed both O'Hearn and Arkell were homosexuals and pedophiles and he was intent on stopping them from ever hurting anyone again. He blamed the murders on the abuse he suffered at the hands of his father. But, the saga of Mark Valera doesn't end there. His sister, Belinda, would later hire one of Mark's friends to kill their father. She said that Jack had started abusing her daughter and she was determined to put an end to it.

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05 Aug 2019The Murder of Craig Rideout01:14:27

50-year-old Craig Rideout's marriage was over. To make matters worse, his wife had moved in with his best friend. There was a tremendous amount of animosity that had built up over the custody of their seven children. Then, in 2016, Craig's body was found on the side of the road. His face had been burned with some type of acid as had his fingertips in an effort to hide his identity.

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss the life and murder of Craig Rideout, a man who was loved by a great many people. But it ended up being those closest to him in life that turned on him and ultimately planned and carried out his murder. As the details of this case unfolded in the media, people were shocked to find out all the sordid details behind his murder.


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13 Jan 2025Kodi Patten and Toni Fratto01:07:12

Micaela “Mickey” Costanzo was a 16-year-old from West Wendover, Nevada, who was murdered by two teens, one of whom she briefly dated. One suspect was identified quickly, but the other surprised investigators by coming forward on her own weeks later. 

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss Kodi Patten and Toni Fratto. Both teens were arrested and charged with the murder of Micaela Costanzo. But Patten and Fratto told several different stories, which clouded the investigation. Investigators had to sift through the evidence to determine precisely what happened to Mickey and who did what. But the motive for the murder remained even more elusive.

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10 Jan 2022George Tiaffay01:08:03

George and Shauna Tiaffay had what many believed was a perfect marriage. They were in love, had a beautiful daughter, and were happy with their lives. A few years into their marriage, things changed. George became obsessed with controlling Shauna’s life. His need for control turned into an elaborate murder-for-hire plot.

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss the crimes of George Tiaffay. He most likely would have gotten away with it if it weren’t for the moral convictions of one man, who tied George and his accomplice to the crime and got justice for Shauna and her family. George Tiaffay made the decision that if he could not have Shauna then no one could.

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01 Nov 2021Todd Kohlhepp01:12:54

Todd Kohlhepp is one of South Carolina's most infamous serial killers. He murdered at least seven people but his troubles began at an early age. He was diagnosed as having a sex addiction from the early age of nine. It was also stated that he was a person willing to do anything to satisfy his desires. That is exactly what Todd Kohlhepp did.

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss the serial killer realtor Todd Kohlhepp. He served 15 years in prison at a young age for a sexual assault. After he got out, it appeared as though he had made a good life for himself. But, underneath the facade, Kohlhepp was committing murders and sexual assaults. In the end, it was one of his victims that lived that tipped the police off to this monster. After he was caught, Kohlhepp began confessing to murders including an unsolved case that had haunted police for 13 years.

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20 May 2019Matthew Hoffman01:19:39

As Matthew Hoffman neared his 30th birthday, his life was falling apart. Friends and neighbors described him as odd and he had already completed a lengthy prison stretch. He couldn't keep a job and was constantly broke. He made the fateful decision to rob a house and this decision led to him committing three murders and kidnapping a 13-year-old girl.

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss this harrowing murder case from our home state of Ohio. What was it with Hoffman's fascination with leaves? Is this a clue into his mental illness that may have contributed to the evil acts he committed? The details of the murders and what Hoffman chose to do with the bodies are unbelievable. His kidnapping victim survived but lost most of her family and will have to live with what happened to her for the rest of her life.

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28 Oct 2019Patrick Tracy Burris01:16:41

Patrick Tracy Burris was a spree killer who shot and killed five people in a six day period in South Carolina in 2009. Burris terrorized the small community of Gaffney, South Carolina during this time. The shootings were random and the ages of the victims ranged from fifteen to eighty-three.

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss the life and crimes of Patrick Tracy Burris. What made this man, who had just recently been paroled from prison, go on such a horrific killing spree? Gaffney, with only 12,000 residents, had experienced this type of fear once before. They had a serial killer on the loose back in 1968 that struck this same type of fear. We will discuss the Gaffney Stranger, Lee Roy Martin, in this episode.

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24 Oct 2023Listen Now: New Podcast “Ghost Story”00:09:16

Tristan Redman is a journalist who doesn’t believe in ghosts. But weird things happened in his teenage bedroom – weirder than normal. When, years later, he discovers subsequent occupants of his family home say they have been visited by the ghost of a faceless woman, he’s curious. It just so happens that the house Tristan grew up in is right next door to the house where his wife’s great-grandmother, Naomi Dancy, was murdered – killed by two gunshots to the face. Could there be a connection? Tristan decides to investigate and soon finds himself where no son-in-law should ever be: delving deep into his wife’s family history, asking questions no one wants answered. Wondery and Pineapple Street Studios present Ghost Story — a seven-part podcast series about family secrets, overwhelming coincidence, and the things that come back to haunt us.


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30 Jul 2017Colin Ferguson01:23:57

Colin Ferguson came to believe that other people and even more so other races were keeping him from reaching his desired station in life. On December 7th, 1993 he decided to board a commuter train out of New York City and would ultimately open fire on the passengers killing 7 and seriously wounding 19.

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss Ferguson's upbringing in Jamaica, his journey to the United States, and the events that transpired in his life that lead to his downward spiral. How was Ferguson able to obtain the gun that he used to commit this tragic mass murder?

Ferguson chose to represent himself at trial which led to some very bizarre moments. There are a lot of things that happen in the aftermath of the shooting that are discussed as well.

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28 Jan 2019Joseph Naso "The Double Initial Killer"01:19:01

In 2010, 76-year-old Joseph Naso was busted on a probation violation. During a search of his home, investigators uncovered boxes filled with incriminating pictures and journals. Also uncovered was what authorities have called Naso's "List of 10". All of this information pointed to the fact that Joe Naso had been a serial rapist for over 40 years and murdered a number of women in California over several decades.

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss the bizarre life and crimes of Joe Naso. He was a photographer with a penchant for women who wore nylons and heels. He used his photography, in some cases, to lure his victims. The majority of his murder victims had the same initial in both their first and last name. The pictures and journals found in his home suggest that he had many more victims than he was prosecuted for.

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22 Jan 2024Bradley John Murdoch01:18:16

Peter Falconio disappeared in Australia’s outback on July 14th, 2001. He and his girlfriend were attacked by a stranger who convinced them to pull over on a remote road. She survived, but investigators believe Peter was fatally shot. His body has never been found. Months later, the main suspect was identified as a man named Bradley John Murdoch, a convicted criminal and drug trafficker.

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss Australian killer Bradley John Murdoch. Murdoch had a long rap sheet and seemed to have no empathy for his victims. He denied that he murdered Peter Falconio and assaulted his girlfriend, Joanne, even though the DNA seemed to prove otherwise. Years of court battles would put Murdoch's fate in the hands of multiple juries.


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30 Jul 2018Chevie Kehoe01:03:46

Chevie Kehoe grew up in a household filled with white supremacist and extremist rhetoric. He would grow up to be one of the most infamous extremists in recent years. His idea was to take on the US government and carve out a piece of the country where only white people would be allowed.

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss the life and crimes of Chevie Kehoe. This is a man that was willing to bomb, rob, and murder to help fulfill his dreams.

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01 Jun 2020Peter Kurten01:10:18

Peter Kurten was a German serial killer who operated in the early 20th century. The press dubbed him as the Vampire of Dusseldorf because he experimented with drinking the blood from some of his victim's wounds. Kurten grew up in household filled with depravity, his father subjected the entire family to verbal, physical, and sexual abuse. These experiences would have a profoundly negative influence on his life.

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss the life and crimes of Peter Kurten. He committed the majority of his crimes in 1929 when he terrorized the city of Dusseldorf, Germany. But his exploits were published around the world striking fear into all those who read about them. Kurten's childhood was so messed up that it's impossible to think that his need for sexual gratification through brutality didn't in part stem from his experiences.

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13 Feb 2023Nathan Miles Gale01:00:39

Nathan Gale was a man who became obsessed with the heavy metal rock band Pantera. Obsessed may even be an understatement in this scenario, as friends said that he listened to his first Pantera CD every day for two years straight. But a change developed in Gale that led him to murder four people at a rock concert. One of the victims was Darrel Lance Abbott, known as Dimebag Darrell, who had once been the guitarist of Pantera.

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss the murders committed by Nathan Gale. Some around him noticed the change in his behavior, and some even wondered if Gale was suffering from some type of mental illness. He took the breakup of Pantera very hard, and it seems as though he took it personally.

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13 Jul 2020James Parker and Robert Tulloch01:06:35

16-year-old James Parker and 17-year-old Robert Tulloch were friends who were bored with life in their small town of Chelsea, VT. They began to scheme and plan on ways to get to Australia. Eventually, those plans turned to crime and evolved into murder.

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss the crimes of Parker and Tulloch. How did these two kids come to the determination that they were willing to do anything, including committing murder, to escape their small town life? A plan to worm their way into homes, force the homeowners to give up their ATM cards and their pins, led them to encounter Half and Susanne Zantop. The Zantops were beloved professors at Dartmouth and their senseless murders affected many people.

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20 Sep 2021Donald Pee Wee Gaskins Part201:12:50

Donald "Pee Wee" Gaskins was a serial killer from Florence, South Carolina. Police know he had at least 14 confirmed victims, but, he confessed to as many as 100 murders. He has been called the meanest man in South Carolina.

Join Mike and Gibby for this 2nd and last episode in the Pee Wee Gaskins saga. In this second episode, we focus on what Pee Wee called his serious murders, how he was eventually caught, his trials, and execution.

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13 Nov 2023Blake Leibel01:16:20

Blake Leibel was an aspiring director and the son of two Canadian multimillionaires. He and his brother were both given a house and a large monthly allowance. In May 2016, Blake was arrested for murdering his girlfriend, Iana Kasian, who had just given birth to their daughter.

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss killer Blake Leibel. Prosecutors argued that the murder was inspired by Blake’s 2010 graphic novel, which depicted themes of torture and murder similar to the crime scene. It came out at trial that Blake was so self-centered that he resented the baby and felt as though his girlfriend wasn't giving him the attention he deserved.

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31 Dec 2018Karla Faye Tucker01:17:10

Karla Faye Tucker grew up hard and began using drugs and selling her body at an early age. On June 13, 1983, Tucker, along with her boyfriend, committed two extremely brutal murders. But it was Karla's time on death row and the fight from many to save her from being put to death that received the most media attention.

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss the life and crimes of Karla Faye Tucker. With so many people over the years on death row claiming to have changed, what was it about Karla that drew so many people to try to save her from being put to death?

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13 Sep 2021Donald Pee Wee Gaskins Part101:20:59

Donald “Pee Wee” Gaskins was a serial killer from Florence, South Carolina. If his confessions are true, he murdered 80-100 people throughout his lifetime. Reports vary about his childhood but, according to Gaskins, it was a pretty rough one. He started his life of crime at the age of 11 and went on to kidnap, rape, torture, and murder.

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss the infamous serial killer Pee Wee Gaskins. Gaskins used his nickname and his unassuming stature to his advantage. People underestimated him his entire life, which allowed him to hide his true nature- that of a sadistic killer. In Part 1 of 2 episodes on Gaskins, we’ll discuss his childhood, his life of crime before he became a killer, his first murder, and what Pee Wee called his “coastal kills.” 

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04 Oct 2021The Anthrax Murders01:15:52

Just one week after the devastating 9/11 attacks, an act of domestic terrorism further shook the United States. Letters laced with powdered anthrax were sent to various locations throughout the country, leading to five deaths and seventeen hospitalizations. The anthrax attacks disrupted the US postal system, closed down important media and government buildings, and sparked another large-scale terrorism investigation. 

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss The Anthrax Murders. The large-scale investigation eventually led authorities to a microbiologist who helping them to find the killer. Dr. Bruce Ivins had even been educating FBI agents on Anthrax in the wake of the letters. Ivins had some skeletons in his closet. But, as he realized that the authorities were closing in on him, he made the decision that he was not going to trial.


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04 Dec 2017Anthony Sowell01:15:23

Anthony Sowell who become known as "The Cleveland Strangler" murdered at least 11 women in the Cleveland area in a period from 2007 to 2009. But Sowell had been victimizing women since his childhood. He would spend 15 years of his life in prison before starting his murderous ways.

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss the details of this serial killer who preyed on women when they were at their most vulnerable. He is thought to have murdered 11 women but many believe that this number could be much higher. Sowell's rage and hatred towards women can be traced back to childhood and this is explored in depth. Did traumatic experiences from childhood lead this killer down his ultimate path or did they play just a part? What makes a monster like Anthony Sowell do what he does?

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17 Feb 2025Scott Watson01:07:49

The disappearance of Ben Smart and Olivia Hope is one of New Zealand’s most high-profile and controversial true crime cases. Scott Watson was convicted of the murders, but Watson has spent years appealing the verdict and has many supporters who believe in his innocence. 

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss Scott Watson and the murders of Ben Smart and Olivia Hope. Watson has his fair share of supporters who do not believe there was enough evidence to prove his guilt. You be the judge.

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03 Jun 2019Ed Gein Part101:10:56

Ed Gein is one of the more intriguing characters in the history of true crime. He didn't murder a large number of people as some other killers did. What makes Ed stand out is the scope of his crimes and what he did with his victims. In addition to being a murderer, Ed Gein was a prolific grave robber. And it is what he did with the bodies that has fascinated many people for years.

Join Mike and Gibby as we discuss Ed Gein, the basis for many of Hollywood's most famous villains. In this first part of the Ed Gein story we focus on Ed's childhood, his sexual confusion and his domineering mother Augusta. All of these parts of Ed's childhood go together to start him down the path of grave robbing and making his "suits" out of recently buried women.

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23 May 2022Travun Baskerville01:07:35

Douglas Calhoun was a man known for being kind, generous, and fun to be around. Doug was fatally shot on June 1st, 2017 in Detroit, Michigan by Travun Baskerville. The subsequent investigation revealed not only the killer but a horrifying child-sex trafficking operation and domestic abuse. 

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss murderer Travun Baskerville. This is a man who was involved with a minor and put ads on the internet for men to be with her. Travun forced this girl to have sex for money and he took all of the money. Douglas Calhoun, or Chef Doug as he was called, answered one of these ads and ended up dead. The minor ended up as the state's star witness but some, including the judge, still have questions about who else may have shot Doug Calhoun.

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20 Nov 2023Michelle Carter01:16:01

18-year-old Conrad Roy ended his life on July 12th, 2014. The police discovered text messages on his phone from a girl named Michelle Carter, who said she was his boyfriend. In these messages, Michelle encouraged Conrad to end his life and even helped him plan it. 

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss Michelle Carter, who was 17 when Conrad died. After she was charged, the case garnered worldwide attention and continues to be widely discussed today. This case raises questions about criminal responsibility and to what extent Michelle should have been held accountable for her actions.

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26 Aug 2024Viktoria Nasyrova01:12:00

Viktoria Nasyrova fled Russia after the police questioned her about her alleged involvement in the murder of her next-door neighbor. She ended up in New York City, the same place where her next-door neighbor's daughter lived. The daughter was hunting Viktoria and an international warrant was out for her arrest.

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss Viktoria Nasyrova. You would think that an international fugitive would want to stay in the shadows. But that wasn't Viktoria's style. She posted to Facebook and continued her criminal ways in the United States.

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15 Jan 2024Dustin and Ginger Jefferson01:11:52

32-year-old Kerry O’Clair-Jefferson was stabbed to death on September 25th, 2013. Her husband Dustin had a motive to kill her, but Kerry’s mother-in-law, Ginger Jefferson, was wrapped up in the case as well. Kerry's relationship with both Dustin and Ginger was said to be extremely volatile by many.

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss Dustin and Ginger Jefferson. The authorities had a hard time figuring out whether it was Dustin or Ginger who actually killed Kerry. They were both charged, and it was up to two separate juries to decide their fates.

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31 Mar 2025Johnny Lewis01:04:41

Johnny Lewis was an actor on many different shows. He was best known for his roles on The OC and Sons of Anarchy. He was a teen heartthrob who once dated Katy Perry. A motorcycle accident sent his life spiraling downward, culminating in an unbelievable tragedy. There was no doubt he suffered some head trauma during the accident, and it is difficult to think it didn't have something to do with his later actions.

Join Mike and Gibb as they discuss Johnny Lewis. On September 26th, 2012, actor Johnny Lewis murdered his elderly landlady and soon after fell to his death from the roof of her home. Over ten years later, many aspects of the case remain unexplained. 

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30 Dec 2019Richard Kuklinski Redux01:26:46

Richard Kuklinski was the subject of the second episode of True Crime All The Time. There was one big problem with it, there was no Gibby. It is the only episode that Gibby was not a part of it and we could not let that stand. So, in a newly researched episode, Mike and Gibby present to you Richard Kuklinski, the way it should have been done.

Richard "The Iceman" Kuklinski committed his first murder at the age of 14. In his early days he killed anyone that annoyed or slighted him. He went on to become a mafia hitman and eventually formed his own crime ring. He earned the Iceman moniker for his method of freezing his victims, sometimes for years, in order to confuse law enforcement as to the victim's time of death. Law enforcement believes that the body count of The Iceman could be as high as 200.

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05 Oct 2020Daniel LaPlante01:09:55

17-year-old Daniel LaPlante had a history of breaking into homes in his hometown of Townsend, Massachusetts. He was charged with breaking into and terrorizing the family an ex-girlfriend. Two months after being released from jail on bail, he committed a brutal triple homicide of a mother and her two children.

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss the crimes of Daniel LaPlante. Early on in the investigation, the trail led straight to the LaPlante home. As it turned out, it was only about a 1/2 mile from the murder scene. But, which member of the LaPlante family committed the murders? Investigators and prosecutors believed it was Daniel, and the evidence, some of it supplied by his own family. seemed to point to his guilt.

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28 Sep 2020Marjorie Orbin01:08:23

Marjorie Orbin was a dancer and choreographer in Las Vegas who was used to men paying a lot of attention to her. She was married six times by the time she was 34-years-old. But, the one thing she wanted most was to have a child. Jay Orbin was a successful businessman who fell head over heels for Marjorie and promised that he would pay whatever it took to get her the fertility treatments it took to have a child. But, when Jay's torso turned up in a plastic bin, the police started to question Marjorie's actions.

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss the life and crimes of Marjorie Orbin. Police suspected that Marjorie had killed Jay to collect on quite a bit of insurance money. All of her actions after Jay supposedly disappeared seemed to be those of a woman who knew her husband wasn't coming home. The question for police was, did Marjorie act alone or did she have help from her boyfriend?

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11 Sep 2023Louis Hastings01:13:29

On March 1st, 1983, Louis Hastings killed almost one-third of the residents of a tiny community in the Alaska Wilderness. It is believed that he killed his neighbors in an elaborate plot to destroy the Trans-Alaska oil pipeline and end his own life.

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss the murderous actions committed by Louis Hastings. At the time of the shootings, 22 people lived in and around the McCarthy, Alaska area. McCarthy had no running water, no electric grid, and very little contact with the outside world. Hastings' marriage and business were failing when he moved out to McCarthy full-time. Before he left his main home in Anchorage, he wrote down a "hit list" that included approximately 200 names.

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18 Jan 2021Stephanie Lazarus01:21:29

In 1986, Stephanie Lazarus was an LAPD officer who murdered her ex-boyfriend's wife, Sherri Rasmussen. Lazarus was still infatuated with her ex, John Ruetten, and decided to execute the woman she thought was her romantic rival. She used her police training to make the murder look like a robbery.

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss the murder of Sherri Rasmussen committed by Stephanie Lazarus. From the start, police were stuck on the theory that Sherri was killed by one or multiple burglars. Many people have said this caused them to not interview key witnesses or even take a hard look at John's ex-girlfriend. It took cold case investigators, over 20 years later, to put the pieces of the puzzle together. And when they did all signs pointed to Stephanie Lazarus. But, they had to tread carefully to take down one of their own.

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11 Jan 2021William Dean Christensen01:08:58

William Dean Christensen is a serial rapist and serial killer who operated in both the United States and Canada. There is a lot of speculation regarding just how many murders Christensen committed, but estimates go as high as 30. William was caught many times over the years and even spent time in prison for many different offenses. But, each time, it seems as though he was let out after serving very little of his sentence only to commit additional crimes.

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss the life and crimes of William Dean Christensen. He was active in many states along the west coast of the United States and also up in Canada. William used many different aliases during his murder spree which made it more difficult for authorities to track him. At one point, he was even charged and convicted of murder under an assumed name. This is a man with no regard for human life, but there are questions as to the true extent of his crimes.

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22 Feb 2021Eddie Lee Mosley01:09:21

Eddie Lee Mosley had a very low IQ and didn't make it past the 3rd grade. He worked some low-paying jobs but eventually turned to crime. He was convicted of an armed robbery at the age of 18. By 1973, Mosley was suspected of at least one murder and almost 100 rapes in the Northwest part of Fort Lauderdale, Florida.

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss the prolific predator Eddie Lee Mosley. He is definitely one of the worst killers in the history of Fort Lauderdale, and may very well be one of the worst predators in the history of Florida. Two different individuals, Eddie Smith and Jerry Townsend were imprisoned for some of Mosley's murders. Each of those convictions resulted from false confessions. Many people have said that police ignored the criminal actions of Eddie Mosley because of the area in which he operated. They believe that police didn't want to spend the amount of time in Northwest Fort Lauderdale that it would have taken to solve all of these crimes. Authorities believe that Mosley could be responsible for as many as 30 murders and well over 100 rapes.

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22 Aug 2022Lionel Tate01:18:10

Lionel Tate was 12 years old when he was charged with the murder of his six-year-old neighbor Tiffany Eunick. At the age of 14, he was sentenced to life in prison without parole for first-degree murder. Lionel said that Tiffany was hurt as they were playing. But, experts testified that her injuries were consistent with someone who had fallen three stories.

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss the bizarre story of Lionel Tate. Lionel Tate is believed to be one of the youngest Americans, if not the youngest, to be sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole. It later came out that Lionel's mother and his defense attorney were instrumental in him declining a plea agreement where he would have served only three years in a juvenile facility. This case reignited the debate on how the criminal justice system should try and sentence juveniles charged with serious crimes. 

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15 Jun 2020Steven Ray Thacker01:18:25

Steven Ray Thacker had a fear of rejection and abandonment. He suffered quite a bit of it during his childhood. He turned to drugs and alcohol and racked up a long rap sheet by the time he was in his twenties. After one stint in prison, he met and fell in love with a woman who had two children. Thacker now had a ready made family and he craved their attention and approval. But, when he lost his job, and couldn't provide for them, he made a fateful decision that would lead him to commit three murders in three different states.

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss the life and crimes of Steven Ray Thacker. Thacker's killing spree began just before Christmas 1999 when he feared that he wouldn't be able to provide the Christmas that his family deserved. Was it the fear of rejection and abandonment of his new family that drove him to rob and commit murder? What part did his diagnosed mental illness, for which he refused to take his prescribed medication, play into his decision making?

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10 Jul 2017Larry Eyler01:16:46

Based on Eyler’s own confessions, authorities believe he may have killed as many as 23 young men in the early 1980s throughout the Midwest. The problem with Larry’s confessions is that he either didn’t know or couldn’t remember names.

Eyler targeted homosexual men and would cruise around in his truck looking for male hitchhikers or would frequent gay bars in different cities looking for targets.

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss the facts surrounding these murders committed by Larry Eyler. Did he act alone or did he have an accomplice or two as he would later claim? Did the police give these murders the top priority that they deserved?

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26 Apr 2021HH Holmes01:27:26

HH Holmes is often called one of the first serial killers in the United States. Born Herman Mudgett, he took on various aliases over his life, including his most famous one, HH Holmes. Holmes was a con artist and a serial killer. While living in Chicago, he built what many have called his "murder castle." In 1893, the World's Fair came to Chicago and it is believed that Holmes lured many to his "murder castle" under the guise of employment or a place to stay while visiting the fair. It's also believed that many who came never left.

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss the infamous killer HH Holmes. Although he was only tried and convicted of one murder, historians agree that he killed many more, some people believe the number of his murders could top 200. Was Holmes a con artist who killed to keep from getting caught? Or, did he find out that enjoyed killing and began killing as a way to satisfy an urge?

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31 Oct 2022Paul Bateson00:59:51

In 1973 Paul Bateson appeared as an extra in the famous film The Exorcist. Four years later, he was arrested for the murder of Addison Verrill, a well-known Variety reporter. At his sentencing hearing, the prosecutor accused Paul Bateson of being responsible for the unsolved “bag murders” of six men in New York City.

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss Paul Bateson. The evidence against him for the murder of Addison Verrill was pretty compelling. But, there seems to be little to no evidence against him for the bag murders. But, that didn't stop prosecutors from going after him for those murders as well.

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22 Nov 2021Bogu Kailai01:10:52

In 2011, Neil Heywood was murdered in China. The fallout from the ensuing investigation resulted in one of the biggest scandals in China's recent history. Bogu Kailai was the daughter of a Communist Party general and was married to a high-profile Chinese politician named Bo Xilai. Bogu's murder of Neil Heywood rocked the Chinese government.

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss the murder of Neil Heywood by Bogu Kailai. This case made headlines all over the world because it involved family secrets, murder, politics, and a police coverup. Many different levels of the government got swept up in this case. But, some questions still remain, including the true motive for Neil Heywood's murder.

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14 May 2018The Briley Brothers01:22:45

Linwood, James Jr, and Anthony Briley were 3 brothers from the Richmond, VA area that would terrorize that city during a seven month stretch of 1979. They, along with a fourth accomplice Duncan Meekins, committed a serious of brutal crimes. They started off selecting their victims at random which enhanced the level of terror. But selecting victims closer to home is what led to their eventual capture.

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss the Briley gang and the reign of terror that they inflicted upon the city of Richmond. It is still considered one of that city's most infamous crime sprees. What would make three brothers from what seemed to be a stable family head down such a dark path? Even when you think this case is over, it's not. Two of the brothers make a daring escape from death row and go on the lam.

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11 Nov 2024Kimberly Kessler01:13:55

Joleen Jensen went missing in May 2018. The last person to see her alive was her coworker, Jennifer Sybert. Investigators quickly realized that Jennifer was not who she said she was, and she was charged with murdering Joleen. 

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss Kimberly Kessler. Kessler had been on the run from the FBI for 25 years at the time that Joleen Jensen went missing. While authorities quickly ascertained her identity, they still had to put together a case that Kimberly murdered Joleen.

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06 Apr 2020Arthur Gary Bishop01:21:35

Arthur Gary Bishop was one of Utah's most infamous killers. Between 1979 and 1983, Bishop murdered five boys, but over years he molested many more. When the police closed in on him they found hundreds of photographs he had taken over the years of many different boys. Many have never been identified so police have no way of knowing how many victims Bishop may have had over the years.

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss Arthur Gary Bishop, a man conflicted between his Mormon faith and the sexual urges he had from a young age. What motivated Bishop to carry out his evil crimes against such a young and innocent group? Was it his excommunication from the church? Was it his claim that he was molested at an early age? The end result was that Bishop preyed upon vulnerable children to satisfy his sick sexual urges. His crimes progressed to murder and would have continued if law enforcement had not stopped his monster.

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06 May 2019Eric Edgar Cooke01:18:37

Eric Cooke was an Australian serial who operated in the area of Perth, Western Australia, predominately in the early 1960s. This was a man that committed his crimes because in his words he wanted to hurt people. Cooke has the distinction of being the last man hanged in Western Australia.

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss the life and crimes of Eric Cooke. An abusive alcoholic father and head injuries mix to form a bad childhood. But is that what turned Eric Cooke into a killer? What was it that fueled this man's need to hurt, maim and kill? This case is interesting on a number of levels but particularly for the fact that two innocent men served lengthy sentences for Cooke's murders.

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07 Jan 2019Russell Williams01:25:53

At the time of his arrest in 2010, Russell Williams was a Colonel in the Canadian Forces. He had risen through the ranks to command the country's largest Air Force base in Trenton. He had been married to his wife Mary for almost 20 years. On the surface, it looked like he had a great life. But Williams harbored a secret fetish that he couldn't control.

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss Russell Williams who committed 82 home break-ins from 2007 to 2010. He couldn't contain his fetish for wearing women's undergarments to his own home. He was extremely successful at breaking into homes and modeling the bathing suits, lingerie, and underwear of the women and girls that lived there. This success fueled his need to commit more crimes and he went from break-ins to sexual assault, then eventually to murder.

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27 Aug 2017The Menendez Bros Finale01:18:40

This is the continuation and finale to the Menendez brothers murder saga. In episode one we covered the background of the family and the murders of Jose and Kitty Menendez. In episode two we cover the arrest of Lyle and Erik Menendez and the circumstances around each arrest.

Then we dive into the circus that was the trial of Lyle and Erik Menendez. Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss the evidence against the brothers and the shocking revelations that come out during the trial that will become the basis for their defense. Lyle and Erik take the stand during the trial and both their actions and words have to be examined. The case put forth by the prosecution and the stance taken by the defense has to be dissected.

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11 Oct 2021William Huff01:05:19

For the first fifteen years of his life, William Huff seemed like a normal teenager. But, when Huff turned sixteen, his behavior changed. The summer before his junior year of high school, William brutally murdered two little girls and abandoned their bodies in the Sierra Vista desert.

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss killer William Huff. After he murdered, Huff wrote a strange letter to the police calling himself “The Phantom,” the nickname by which he is known today. Huff spent over 50 years in prison before he was let out on house arrest. But, contact with an 8-year-old girl led to Huff being put back in prison where he sits today.


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06 Nov 2017Narcy Novak01:14:47

Narcy Novak was born in Ecuador, grew up poor, and eventually made her way to American where she worked as a Stripper. Then she met Ben Novak Jr, a multi-millionaire, and her life would change forever. The two would eventually get married and Narcy would become accustomed to a wealthy lifestyle.

But Ben Novak Jr was eccentric and would have a string of affairs during his marriage to Narcy. The marriage was turbulent to say the least and Ben would start having thoughts about ending it. He and Narcy has a prenuptial agreement that would leave with her with very little money in the event of a divorce. And as the marriage started to fall apart, this fact would loom large in Narcy's mind. She would resort to anything, even murder, to keep from being poor again.

Join Mike and Gibby as they talk through the details of the bizarre relationship between Ben and Narcy. Narcy was very cunning and she started to make plans to ensure that she got her hands on Ben's money. The decisions that she would make would leave two people dead and destroy many more lives.

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29 Jul 2024Damien Guerrero and Kinzie Noordman01:04:50

In 2003, 18-year-old Kelly Bullwinkle was found dead near an orange grove in California. At first, the police believed that she was involved in drugs, and her murder centered around that. But as the case unraveled, the culprits and the reason behind the murder shocked many.

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss Damien Guerrero and Kinzie Noordman and the murder of Kelly Bullwinkle. The three were friends and many people were shocked when Guerrero and Noordman were charged with Kelly's murder. But what was the real reason behind it? Both Damien and Kinzie told a number of shocking stories. In the end, it would be up to two separate juries to sort out the truth.

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20 Feb 2023Cynthia Mueller01:14:40

In November 2012, 52-year-old David Mueller was found dead in his home in Prescott, Arizona. The authorities initially assumed that David, who had ALS, died of natural causes until one of his former caregivers confessed that he and David’s wife, Cynthia murdered him.

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss Cynthia Mueller and the death of her husband, David. David had confided in people that he believed Cynthia was trying to kill him. At her trial, the prosecution had a star witness, a man named Chuck Todd, who said he and Cynthia had an affair. He also said that she enlisted his help in murdering David Mueller.

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01 Apr 2019Diane Downs01:22:29

Diane Downs was a woman that loved being pregnant but didn't like raising her kids. She was a self-centered person who didn't see to her kids needs. She was always on the hunt for a new man. And when the man she was having an affair with broke it off, Diane was devastated. She felt that the only way to get this man back in her life was to rid herself of her children.

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss the special kind of evil that is Diane Downs. Here is a woman that was so selfish, she was willing to murder her own children to get what she wanted. This is a case that will make every parent disgusted with how a mother could be so callous.

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14 Oct 2019John Wayne Gacy Part301:23:58

John Wayne Gacy is one of the most infamous serial killers of all time. In the 1970s, Gacy raped, tortured and killed at least 33 boys and young men in the Chicago area. Gacy was very well-known and liked in his community and he enjoyed dressing up as a clown to entertain the neighborhood kids. He was the perfect example of a monster hiding in plain sight.

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss the murderous John Wayne Gacy to mark the 150th episode of the podcast. In this third part on Gacy, we discuss the collapse of his second marriage, his run for elected office and the birth of Pogo the clown. We talk in detail about his known victims up through the end of 1977. We also discuss Gacy's distinctive MO and the boy that escaped Gacy early on that helped shed light on that MO.

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24 Dec 2018Clifford Burns01:11:52

Clifford Burns murdered his estranged wife Patricia on December 24th, 2013 in front of his children. Cliff's life had been spiraling out of control for some time. But, he received a call that day that sent him over the edge.

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss this Christmas Eve murder committed by a man who perceived that everyone was against him, everyone was out to get him. What type of learned behavior during his childhood led him to commit this murder of the woman who he professed to love? And how can a father do something so horrible in front of his children? Interrogation audio of Clifford Burns after his arrest provides some insight into his mindset leading up to the murder.

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14 Jan 2019Anthony Kiritsis01:15:19

In early 1977, Tony Kiritsis was a man on the edge. He had fallen behind on his mortgage payments and the bank wanted their money. Tony thought that they were trying to take his property from him because they knew it was worth more than he owed. One day he decided that he was going to take matters into his own hand and hold them accountable. What ensued was a hostage situation that played out on live television.

Join Mike and Gibby as the discuss Tony Kiritsis. Was Tony correct in his thinking that his financial institution was trying to swindle him? His actions were criminal but through them he garnered the support of a lot of people. Many people were happy that someone had decided to make a stand against the system.

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28 Jun 2021Ronnie Hendrick01:11:05

In August 2000, Pam Shelley, along with her two children, moved to Cuero, Texas with a man she had met named Ronnie Hendrick. Hendrick was both physically and verbally abusive to not only Pam but to her young daughter Kayla as well. On January 6th, 2001, Pam Shelley was shot in the head inside the home she shared with Ronnie. Ronnie and his family told the police that Pam had taken her own life. And he almost got away with murder.

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss Ronnie Hendrick and the murder of Pam Shelley. Pam was getting ready to move back to her home state of Arkansas when she died. At first, police ruled it a suicide because of the story told by Ronnie and his family. It took 15 years, a detective that absolutely would not give up, and Pam's daughter Kayla, to finally expose the truth and bring Ronnie Hendrick to justice.

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24 Jun 2019Earl Richmond Jr.01:12:26

Earl Richmond Jr. was a drill sergeant in the Army who, after being kicked out in 1990, began murdering single mothers and in some cases their children. Richmond began his murderous way near Fort Dix where he had been stationed and then resumed them in Fayetteville, North Carolina after he moved back to his home town.

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss the crimes of Earl Richmond Jr. His story includes a man that spent years in prison for a crime he did not commit; a crime for which Richmond is thought to be guilty. We'll detail out that travesty as we talk about the many victims in this case.

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23 Apr 2018David and Catherine Birnie01:15:21

We're headed to Australia for this week's episode to talk about the serial killer couple David and Catherine Birnie. This sadistic pair hunted women on the streets around Perth and would take them back to their home on Moorhouse Street. The press would dub their crimes as "The Moorhouse Murders".

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss the details of this bizarre but fascinating case. Let's dive into the childhoods and backgrounds of both David and Catherine to see what may have led them down the path of murder. What kind of strange bond did these two develop that would cause Catherine, in particular, to say that she would do anything for David.

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