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	Pub. Date	Title	Duration
	08 Oct 2024	The HR Leadership exodus, flat hierarchies and the 25-year high of EEOC disability discrimination charges	00:22:55
Are we on the verge of losing key HR leaders due to burnout and lack of strategic support? Tara Turk-Haynes, founder of Equity Activations, joins us to discuss the possible HR leadership exodus along with the EEOC’s 25-year high in disability discrimination charges and how flat hierarchies may be keeping women from applying. Plus, we explore what it all means for DEI programs as middle management roles vanish. Don’t miss it! And -> If you'd like to participate in Tara's survey about the experience of middle managers, please do so here: https://lnkd.in/gGjT8Zwm You can also connect with Tara on LinkedIn The articles we discuss can be found here: A leadership exodus looms as HR leaders consider leaving their jobs EEOC Sues Three Employers for Disability Discrimination Research: Flat Hierarchies Can Discourage Women Applicants
	01 Oct 2024	Amazon's RTO, more tech layoffs, and the myth of in-office culture	00:30:41
This week on Toot or Boot, Tara Turk-Haynes, founder of Equity Activations, joins us to break down Amazon's RTO mandate and the myth of in-office culture-building. Then we dive into the latest tech layoffs—is it the economy, real estate, or the upcoming election driving them? And we ask: Does simply being in the same office foster real collaboration and culture? Get ready for a wild ride! Connect with Tara on LinkedIn Here are the articles we discussed: Amazon calls workers back 5 days a week—other companies may be ‘right behind them,’ expert says Cisco's huge layoff round slams Bay Area offices, more than 800 workers cut Intel is laying off over 15,000 employees and will stop ‘non-essential work’ PwC fires 1,800 employees. What’s driving Big 4’s major U.S. layoffs? Working in the office 5 days a week to build company culture is a myth, PwC report says
	24 Sep 2024	Gen Z's sick days, the meeting industrial complex, and centering employees	00:20:17
We dive into the "meeting industrial complex" and whether our work culture has really adapted to remote and hybrid models. Join Noah Warder, VP of People and Culture at Accent Inns, and me as we discuss how to reclaim focus time, explore Gen Z’s impact on sick days and discuss whether HR has swung too far in favor of employees. Connect with Noah on LinkedIn. Articles Gen Z is redefining sick days I've worked in HR for 36 years. Here are the 3 biggest changes I've seen in the workplace — and why I think the dial has swung too far in employees' favor. White-Collar Work Is Just Meetings Now
	17 Sep 2024	Founder mode, right-to-disconnect, and social activism in orgs	00:24:01
Noah Warder, VP of People and Culture at Accent Inns, joins to talk about founder mode and what it gets wrong. We also dive into the debate around right-to-disconnect laws. Are they necessary protections, or do they create unnecessary urgency? Plus, we explore how organizations can weave social activism into their governance. Don’t miss it! Connect with Noah on LinkedIn Articles: Why Silicon Valley Is Abuzz Over ‘Founder Mode’ How to build social activism into your governance structure ‘Who dreams this crap up?’: Kevin O'Leary slams new rule that allows employees to ignore their bosses after hours
	10 Sep 2024	Messy in Texas - overtime laws, noncompetes and The Great Detachment	00:18:22
Morgan Williams, CEO and co-founder of PeakHR, joins me to break down messy Texas court rulings on noncompetes and overtime laws, and unpack this new HR trend called "The Great Detachment." Buckle up—this one's a wild ride! Connect with Morgan on LinkedIn Follow PeakHR on LinkedIn Articles: Federal judge strikes down FTC rule banning noncompete agreements State employees in Texas not subject to overtime rule, judge holds Welcome to ‘The Great Detachment’: Workers are checked out—and so are their bosses
	03 Sep 2024	DEI rollbacks and the politics of Silicon Valley VCs	00:13:29
Morgan Williams, CEO and co-founder of PeakHR, joins me to explore the latest round of companies announcing they're dropping or scaling back their DEI initiatives. And we connect those dots to the closing of Women Who Code, Girls in Tech, and the VCs of Silicon Valley who are putting their support behind Republican politicians. Connect with Morgan on LinkedIn Follow PeakHR on LinkedIn Articles: Harley-Davidson is dropping diversity initiatives after right-wing anti-DEI campaign https://finance.yahoo.com/news/whats-happened-silicon-valley-insane-170023210.html The movement to diversify Silicon Valley is crumbling amid attacks on DEI
	27 Aug 2024	The gig economy, RTOs, and feedback - do they adversely impact women?	00:16:24
Welcome to another Tootsday! This week Sheila Krueger of The Benefits Bungalow, joins me to dive into the latest HR news: Are women struggling to join the gig economy because they worry about sacrificing benefits? And are return-to-office mandates driving away female talent? We also chat about the latest Textio report that found high performers are getting the worst feedback. Plus, we explore why quality feedback matters for everyone. Follow Sheila on LinkedIn Articles: Women want to join the gig economy — but they can't sacrifice their benefits ‘The system is not working for women’: Companies with return-to-office mandates are hemorrhaging female talent High performers at work get the worst feedback, and it's driving them to quit
	20 Aug 2024	Revenge of the HR Trends	00:26:24
This week Cassandra Babilya and I break down some of the latest HR buzzwords. Is "Hushed Hybrid" just another overhyped term and is it a case of disempowered managers? And do leaders really care about employee engagement? Then we've got the Great Resignation 2.0—Cassandra calls BS on this one—and the bizarre rise of Employee Nesting. Are employees doomed whether they job-hop or stay put? Tune in for the trend-busting breakdown! Follow Cassandra Babilya cassandrababilya.com You Got This journal https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CPMJ5K5R Make Work Suck Less newsletter https://pages.cassandrababilya.com/posts Articles Hushed Hybrid Leaders don’t really care about employee engagement. Here’s why Great Resignation 2.0 could be on the horizon, with 3 in 10 workers planning to quit in 2024, survey shows 3 Ways To Know The Difference Between ‘Employee Nesting’ And Company Loyalty
	13 Aug 2024	Is HR Miserable? And the death of summer Fridays	00:17:43
Are Summer Fridays dead because of remote work? Sheila Krueger of the Benefits Bungalo joins me to break down this and more. We start off by talking about The New York Times piece, “So, Human Resources Is Making You Miserable?”—and the heated discussions it’s sparked. Plus, we dive into the Honeywell controversy: firing an employee for refusing mandatory DEI training. Tune in for all the drama! Follow Sheila on LinkedIn Articles So, Human Resources Is Making You Miserable? Honeywell employee fired for skipping DEI training has no bias claim Summer Fridays are dead because remote work killed them
	06 Aug 2024	A 6 day work week, the broken rung, and Citi's paid parental leave	00:16:57
On this week's Toot or Boot, Cassandra Babilya and I dive into Greece's befuddling decision to introduce a 6-day workweek. Plus, what is the "broken rung" and is it really what’s holding women back in their careers? And Citi steps up by boosting paid parental leave to match the competition. Join us as we break it all down! Follow Cassandra Babilya cassandrababilya.com You Got This journal https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CPMJ5K5R Make Work Suck Less newsletter https://pages.cassandrababilya.com/posts Articles Citi boosts paid parental leave to match industry peers Greece six day work week Women can’t fix the ‘broken rung’ unless they acknowledge the role they play in workplace bullying and discrimination
	30 Jul 2024	Is Gen Z hard to work with? And what are Gen Z and Gen X's retirements looking like?	00:19:08
On this week’s Toot or Boot, we’re diving into generational workplace dynamics! Kim Rohrer joins the show to talk about if Gen Z really is the hardest to work with, or is it just a myth? We also explore how Gen X is faring in the 401k experiment and the surprising trend of Gen Z maxing out their retirement savings. Join us for the generational deep dive you didn’t know you needed! Follow Kim Rohrer icaretoomuch.substack.com patchworkportfolio.com peakhrlearning.com Articles Gen X is the 401(k) 'experiment generation.' Here's how that's playing out. Meet the Gen Zers maxing out their retirement savings Gen Z really are the hardest to work with
	23 Jul 2024	Do careers need a higher purpose? And what letting people get away with transforms your culture	00:10:05
Steven Huang joins me to break down Rippling’s controversial move to ban ex-employees at competitors from tender offer stock sales. Plus, does your career really need a higher purpose? We also chat about how focusing on what employees get away with can actually transform workplace culture. Buckle up for a lively discussion! Follow Steven on LinkedIn Articles: Your Career Doesn’t Need to Have a Purpose Want to Know How to Change a Company's Culture? Science Says First Focus on the Things Employees Are Allowed to Get Away With Rippling bans former employees who work at competitors like Deel and Workday from its tender offer stock sale
	16 Jul 2024	The rise of AI "workers" and MEI	00:07:20
Steven Huang joins and we cover Lattice’s bold (and quickly reversed) move to create employment records for AI workers, and the rise of MEI as SHRM drops “Equity” from DEI. Don’t miss this action-packed episode! Follow Steven on LinkedIn Articles: Elon Musk and other DEI critics are latching on to MEI
	09 Jul 2024	Mandatory vacation, mental health, and carewashing	00:15:35
Get ready for an action-packed Tootsday! In Toot or Boot episode 9, "Toots Across the Board," Alex Seiler and I dive into hot HR topics: Should taking vacation be mandatory in the US? How can we better support young workers’ mental health? And what’s “carewashing”? Follow Alex on LinkedIn Articles: Taking a vacation from work may soon become mandatory The kids are not alright: Gen Z and millennial workers are struggling and it’s time for managers to pay attention How “Carewashing” Alienates Employees
	02 Jul 2024	The SHRM keynote that wasn't, the happy hour job interview, and PIPs	00:15:34
The tea is piping hot this Tootsday on Toot or Boot episode 8, "Return of the Boot"! Alex Seiler joins me as we dive into Jason Sudeikis ditching his SHRM keynote, the bizarre job interview that turned into a happy hour with other candidates, and the ever-dreaded PIPs (Performance Improvement Plans). Don’t miss this juicy episode! Follow Alex on LinkedIn Articles What would Ted Lasso say A TikToker says she was invited to a work happy hour after a job interview but it turned out to be another hiring test PIPs are disingenuous. If you get put on one, find a new job as fast as possible, HR exec says.
	16 Oct 2024	Parental leave and the case of stolen valor	00:37:49
This week Kim Rohrer and Cassandra Babilya are back to discuss parental leave and policies and practices that support parents. We start off by discussing a lawsuit where a former employee of a law firm alleges that the company’s leave policy violates civil rights law because it offers an additional eight weeks of paid disability leave only to birth mothers. Find the article we discussed here Law firm Jones Day must face bias lawsuit over parental leave policy Follow Kim Rohrer icaretoomuch.substack.com patchworkportfolio.com peakhrlearning.com Follow Cassandra Babilya cassandrababilya.com You Got This journal https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CPMJ5K5R Make Work Suck Less newsletter https://pages.cassandrababilya.com/posts
	22 Oct 2024	Workday wellness check, supercommutes, and Dell's last minute RTO	00:33:42
Is the supercommute making a comeback? In this week’s episode, Cassidy Edwards joins as we dive into the story of a man who loves his 7-hour daily trek. We also unpack the chaos caused by Dell's sudden return-to-office (RTO) mandate, and explore why HR needs to rethink how they roll out major changes, because lives don’t flip with the stroke of an RTO mandate. Last, we chat about how Workday's disastrous decision to send police to a hospitalized Black employee's home for a wellness check made headlines. Connect with Cassidy or subscribe to Yo! You're on Mute on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cassidy-edwards-yyom/ Find the articles we discussed here: Black Worker Sues US Company After They Sent Police To His Home For A 'Wellness Check' During His Medical Leave I supercommute over 7 hours for work. I won't move out of NYC, and the journey is productive and relaxing Dell staffers scramble to find childcare after 5-days-a-week office mandate gives just a few days’ notice: report
	14 Nov 2024	Polyworking, AI surveillance of workers, and why HR is getting tougher	00:23:48
In this episode, we talk about a new HR buzz word “polyworking” – juggling multiple jobs to make ends meet. But is it just hustle and grind culture 2.0? Then, we explore recent moves by the CFPB to extend consumer protection into employment data and cautioning businesses about surveiling employees. Finally, we revisit the debate on whether HR is truly “miserable” and talk more about how HR experiences tensions that aren't felt by other roles and departments. Connect with Lindsey at https://www.linkedin.com/in/lindseycaplan/ or https://www.gatheringeffect.com/
	25 Nov 2024	Employee wellbeing and trust in leadership declines, and Meta fires staff over meal vouchers	00:25:50
Lindsey Caplan joins us again to discuss the stats showing that fewer than one in three employees trust their senior leaders. Next we talk about the employees fired by Meta for misusing their meal credits and what it means about org culture, trust, and how we write and implement our policies. Then, we dig into the stats that a record-low percentage of employees feel genuinely cared for by their employers, and talk about why wellness programs without real action backfire. Connect with Lindsey on LinkedIn or at The Gathering Effect.
	19 Nov 2024	The Trouble with SHRM	00:50:48
On this week's episode, we're doing something a little different. I invited Morgan Williams, Tracie Sponenberg, and Sarika Lamont to go in-depth on one topic - SHRM. SHRM has been the talk of HR news a lot over the past year - they dropped the E from DEI, are facing a lawsuit from a former employee who is alleging discrimination and retaliation, and most recently the CEO was added to a shortlist to serve as Secretary of Labor. So we dive deep on SHRM - who they are, how they've changed, who they serve, and why it all matters. ---- Connect with Sarika Lamont on LinkedIn Connect with Tracie Sponenberg on LinkedIn or visit her website to sign up for her newsletter. Click on "resources" on her website for the SHRM-alternative list! Connect with Morgan Williams on LinkedIn and check out PeakHR for learning programs designed by HR practitioners for HR practitioners. ---- Articles The Problem With SHRM: Why HR Professionals Feel Disappointed, Disillusioned, and Deserted SHRM faces discrimination lawsuit from former employee and criticism from some HR professionals SHRM announces removal of E from DEI SHRM Stands Ready to Partner with Biden Administration to Support Work, Workers and Workplaces Jury may decide whether SHRM conducted sham bias investigation SHRM letter to President-elect Trump ‘It would be an honor’: SHRM’s Johnny C. Taylor reportedly on Trump’s short list for labor secretary
	03 Dec 2024	Managers' toxic positivity, the legacy of Steve Jobs' leadership style, and a 2025 quitting spree?	00:30:25
This week I'm joined by Vijay Pendakur, an author and HR advisor and consultant, to dive into toxic positivity, toxic leadership and more. First, we chat about managers glossing over bad news, creating an atmosphere of toxic positivity, and losing employee trust. Next, we talk about the leadership style of Steve Jobs, and how many too often misattribute his bullying behaviors for good leadership. And we wrap up by chatting about the potential for a 2025 quitting spree due to declining employee satisfaction - do we think a quitting spree is likely or just hype? Connect with Vijay Pendakur Dr. Vijay Pendakur is the author of the highly anticipated book, “The Alchemy of Talent: Leading Teams to Peak Performance.” A true multi-sector organizational leader, Vijay has held senior roles at four companies: Zynga, VMware, Dropbox and Salesforce. He has also served as the Dean of Students at Cornell University. In his time at Cornell, he was named Presidential Advisor for Diversity and Equity, as part of a new approach to campus-wide transformation at the largest Ivy League institution. A widely recognized thought leader, Dr. Pendakur’s writing has been featured in Fast Company, Harvard Business Review, Forbes, and Time. Vijay is a board advisor with Ezra Coaching, Enterprise Ireland, and Wisq. He lives in Austin, Texas, with his wife, Katie, a psychotherapist and yoga teacher, and his two young daughters, Mira and Savi. Visit his website https://www.vijaypendakur.com/ Connect with him on LinkedIn Or sign up for his newsletter: Quick tips for leading high performance teams. Articles Managers Are ‘Glossing’ Over Workplace Issues And Pushing Toxic Positivity, According To Report I worked with Steve Jobs. Here’s what he’d say about today’s leadership style Brewing worker resentment could fuel a 2025 quitting spree
	09 Dec 2024	Elon to X remote work, RTOs as retaliation, and what employees really value	00:28:50
In this episode, we dive into Elon Musk's and Vivek Ramaswamy's controversial task force, cheekily named the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE). Their mission? To slash federal workforce numbers by targeting remote and hybrid work—impacting up to a million federal employees. We unpack the implications, including potential productivity myths and disproportionate impacts on marginalized groups. Then, we pivot to Grindr's clash with the NLRB. Accused of retaliating against unionizing employees by enforcing an in-person return-to-office mandate, Grindr’s case is a litmus test for RTO policies and their role in modern labor relations. Are we seeing the start of a broader worker movement? Finally, we explore the “human factor” in workplace design. How can organizations create an employee experience that values flexibility, connection, and well-being in a hybrid world? From balancing tradition with innovation to rethinking digital workspaces, we’ll share insights on fostering environments where employees truly thrive. Tune in for a conversation that bridges the political, legal, and cultural landscapes of today’s workplace! Connect with Kate On LinkedIn KJS Consulting Articles: Elon Musk’s first order of business in Trump administration: Kill remote work NLRB: Grindr retaliated against unionizing workers by forcing a return to office The human factor: 5 ways to prioritize what employees really value
	07 Jan 2025	Candidates love-bombed and ghosted, the return of bro culture, and volunteering as a wellbeing program	00:30:09
In this episode, we explore the turbulent landscape of modern workplaces, starting with Greenhouse's survey revealing that over half of job seekers experience ghosting or "love-bombing" during the hiring process—creating frustration and mistrust in organizations. What’s driving these behaviors, and how can HR professionals and hiring managers do better? Next, we delve into the lawsuit against CloudKitchens and its controversial CEO, Travis Kalanick. Allegations of wrongful termination and a return to toxic “bro culture” raise questions about how far workplace culture has—or hasn’t—evolved since the Uber scandals. Finally, we shift to a brighter topic: the power of volunteer programs. Studies show volunteering as the most impactful workplace wellness initiative. But is the real benefit the program itself or the sense of support employees feel when they’re encouraged to participate? We’ll unpack how organizations can build meaningful well-being into their cultures. Tune in for insights on the good, the bad, and the transformative potential of today’s workplaces. Connect with Kate On LinkedIn KJS Consulting Articles Most job seekers say they’ve been ghosted or ‘love-bombed’ during interviews—it can make them ‘question their career and sanity’ From dinners with Travis Kalanick to fired after maternity leave: One of CloudKitchens’ earliest employees is suing Volunteering programs are probably the most powerful well-being benefit in your toolkit
	17 Dec 2024	The Golden Toots and Coal-filled Boots of 2024	00:40:09
2024 was a challenging year. We saw the implementation of six-day workweeks, so many layoffs, return-to-office (RTO) mandates, and DEI rollbacks. SHRM removed the E from DEI and Silicon Valley CEOs and VCs seemed to want a return to days of HR past (or no HR at all. We also had some progress with parental leave policies, new prenatal care protections, and much-needed conversations around the realities of HR work sparked by a viral NYT article. Join us as we award the first ever Golden Toots and Coal-filled Boots and recap the highs and lows of 2024. Connect with Kim: On LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/kimrohrer/ Or at her website Patchwork Portfolio: https://www.patchworkportfolio.com/ Articles and resources we discussed: You Got This Journal: https://a.co/d/d417s5V PaidLeave.ai : https://www.paidleave.ai/ No HR Playbook SHRM to lead with inclusion and diversity Today, Lattice Makes History and Leads the Way in Responsible Employment of AI Yes Madam clarifies on firing over 100 employees for being stressed, says, 'No one was fired; What You Should Know About the Pregnant Workers Fairness Act New York becomes first state to mandate paid time off for prenatal care Citi boosts paid parental leave to match industry peers So, Human Resources Is Making You Miserable?
	14 Jan 2025	All things DEI with Vijay and Tara	00:52:11
What do we mean when we say DEI? Are the companies rolling back their DEI programs making substantive changes? And what is DEI going to look like under the new administration? In this episode of Toot or Boot, we welcome back guests Vijay Pendakur and Tara Turk-Haynes for an in-depth discussion on DEI (Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion) in the workplace. We discuss three articles, including Vijay's own HBR piece on reframing diversity's value proposition, as we explore how DEI initiatives are evolving in today's climate. The episode tackles current DEI discourse through three main articles: 1. "Reframe the Value Proposition of Diversity" from HBR, written by guest Vijay Pendakur, which explores new ways to understand and communicate diversity's impact on organizations 2. "Change Is Here: 5 Hard Truths & A Blueprint for Your DEI Plan in 2025," which presents a possibly controversial perspective on the future of corporate DEI initiatives 3. "What Trump's Second Term Could Mean for DEI" from HBR, which outlines strategic models for organizations to maintain inclusive practices in potentially challenging political environments Join us as we examine the broader implications for the future of workplace DEI initiatives. Connect with Vijay Pendakur Dr. Vijay Pendakur is the author of the highly anticipated book, “The Alchemy of Talent: Leading Teams to Peak Performance.” A true multi-sector organizational leader, Vijay has held senior roles at four companies: Zynga, VMware, Dropbox and Salesforce. He has also served as the Dean of Students at Cornell University. In his time at Cornell, he was named Presidential Advisor for Diversity and Equity, as part of a new approach to campus-wide transformation at the largest Ivy League institution. A widely recognized thought leader, Dr. Pendakur’s writing has been featured in Fast Company, Harvard Business Review, Forbes, and Time. Vijay is a board advisor with Ezra Coaching, Enterprise Ireland, and Wisq. He lives in Austin, Texas, with his wife, Katie, a psychotherapist and yoga teacher, and his two young daughters, Mira and Savi. Find Vijay here: www.vijaypendakur.com More about his bestselling new book: https://a.co/d/bSb1lxh For Fractional DEI Advising: https://www.vijaypendakur.com/fractional-dei-advising Or sign up for his newsletter: Quick tips for leading high performance teams. Connect with Tara Turk-Haynes Tara is a first generation college graduate, corporate worker, and the first of her immediate family to reach an executive level. She is a Talent, Engagement, DEIB, Internal Comms operator and strategist. She has worked in house and as a consultant, helping other businesses develop and grow with equity embedded so they have a higher chance of having a strong, sustainable operations for the future. Find Tara at Equity Activations. You can also connect with Tara on LinkedIn Or sign up for her newsletter: https://equityact.beehiiv.com/subscribe Read the articles: Reframe the Value Proposition of Diversity Change Is Here: 5 Hard Truths & A Blueprint For Your DEI Plan In 2025 What Trump’s Second Term Could Mean for DEI
	21 Jan 2025	2025 HR Predictions: Toot-worthy or Boot-worthy?	00:48:25
In this week's special episode, your host Stacey Nordwall joins the Toot or Boot hot seat with Erica Spitale and Rebecca Taylor, and producer Lexi comes out from behind the scenes for a rapid-fire edition of Toot or Boot, all about 2025 HR predictions. Lexi reviewed 15 different predictions sources (that’s over 75 predictions) which were organized into five different themes: AI, Remote/Hybrid Work, Leadership and Organizational Change, Employee Experience and Well-being, and Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI). Unlike a usual episode of Toot or Boot, Stacey, Erica, and Rebecca had no idea what predictions/trends they would encounter. They were put on the spot to take each trend at face value, Toot or Boot it at the same time, then discuss. Afterwards, Lexi reveals each trend's source. Here are the trends we cover on this episode: Internal processes get an AI makeover: 5 predictions for HR and the world of work in 2025 \| Culture Amp PR comes to HR: 2024 HR Trends and 2025 Predictions \| SHRM Despite the benefits of AI in powering accessibility tools, this author predicts that the cybersecurity risks from AI will lead to some organizations prohibiting such tools in greater instances in 2025: Neurodiversity and Disability Employment – Reflections on 2024 and Predictions for 2025 \| Nathan Chung Mental Health Gets Personal. 7 Seismic Shifts Coming to HR in 2025 \| Bill Brown Leadership That Actually Leads: 2025 HR Predictions: Looking Into the Crystal Ball \| Katarina Berg Other articles referenced: I talked to Meta's Black AI character. Here's what she told me. The excerpt from Culture Amp's article that Lexi references about their cohort using internal AI: "When used right, Gen AI tools can dramatically improve workflows, eliminate inefficiencies, and make information available in seconds. In 2024, some Culture Amp employees gained early access to an internal Gen AI tool. They now show higher engagement levels and report having more energy at work than employees who weren’t in the pilot cohort. We’re only one company, but we can’t help but share our own experimentation with people solutions and strategies. We’re excited about the possibilities!" Connect with Erica Spitale On LinkedIn Connect with Rebecca Taylor On LinkedIn or email rebecca@skillcycle.com Rebecca hosts the HR Confessions podcast with Kim Rohrer. The premise of HR Confessions is we collect anonymous stories of things that happened in HR, and Rebecca reads them live for Kim to react and respond to. Find it wherever you get your podcasts, and if you have your own HR confession that you want to submit, email hrconfessions@skillcycle.com
	28 Jan 2025	HR preps for new administration, Apple pushes back on anti-DEI, and reverse discrimination lawsuits	00:22:48
Get ready for your HR news fix! This week we're diving into three timely stories: guidance on how to approach the administration change, Apple's response defending their DEI initiatives against shareholder pushback, and a potential emerging trend of "reverse discrimination" lawsuits. Join us as we unpack what these developments mean for workplaces and HR professionals, share our takes on the latest industry moves, and break down why these stories matter. Whether you're in HR or just interested in how companies are navigating these challenges, we've got you covered with clear analysis and real talk. Connect with Aubrey On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adblanche/ https://aubreyblanche.com/ Connect with Stacey https://www.linkedin.com/in/staceynordwall/ Articles How HR leaders can prepare for a new administration and congress ‘Inappropriate’ micromanaging: Apple pushes back on anti-DEI proposal ‘Reverse’ discrimination claims may pose a class-action threat Stacey made reference to this LinkedIn post: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/franbenjamin_dei-activity-7283595143100690432-0HFw
	04 Feb 2025	Anticipated employment law changes, soft quitting, and the new deputy labor secretary	00:34:02
This week we kick it off with some anticipated employment law changes that could impact your workplaces. We'll unpack 5 laws expected to impact businesses in 2025, from pay transparency mandates to revamped contractor rules. We'll also analyze key leadership changes in Washington, as we discuss Keith Sonderling's appointment as deputy labor secretary. Plus, we'll explore the latest of buzzphrases, "soft quitting." Whether you're a business owner, HR professional, or employee, this episode equips you with insights to navigate 2025's evolving workplace landscape. Connect with Aubrey On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adblanche/ https://aubreyblanche.com/ Connect with Stacey https://www.linkedin.com/in/staceynordwall/ Articles 5 employment law changes set to hit the workplace in 2025 Trump names former EEOC Commissioner Keith Sonderling deputy labor secretary Why Soft Quitting At Work Could Be More Dangerous Than Quiet Quitting
	11 Feb 2025	What 2025 holds for RTOs and why Americans may be accepting lower salaries	00:34:21
Coming up on today's episode: We're diving into the latest RTO trends for 2025! We'll explore how major companies are taking wildly different approaches - from WPP's new four-day office mandate to firms like Spotify doubling down on flexibility. Plus, we'll discuss some fascinating findings about workers choosing flexibility over higher salaries, and tackle the tricky question of whether remote work might be holding back career progression. Stick around for a candid conversation about what all this means for HR practitioners navigating the future of work. Connect with Jared On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaredkleinert/ Connect with Stacey On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/staceynordwall/ Articles How return-to-office mandates could change in 2025, according to top HR leaders from PwC, EY, and Canva Why Americans Are Accepting Lower Salaries Global ad giant WPP issues sweeping RTO mandate for its 114,000 staff, calling them back to office 4 days a week
	18 Feb 2025	What is burnout? And why is it so prevalent in HR?	01:12:01
Join host Stacey Nordwall and special guests Julie Turney and Stephanie Lemek for a deep dive into HR burnout - an issue that has become critical for the field. Drawing insights from Emily and Amelia Nagoski's book "Burnout," the conversation goes beyond the oversimplified notion that burnout is just feeling tired or can be fixed with a long weekend. Instead, they explore how burnout represents a biological stress cycle that needs proper completion, discussing concepts like "Human Giver Syndrome" and the unique challenges faced by HR professionals who are often expected to maintain endless empathy while managing their own stress. The episode critically examines why HR practitioners are particularly vulnerable to burnout, exploring factors like the isolation of the role, the expectation of constant emotional labor, and the tension between doing what's right and what's organizationally possible. They also challenge conventional burnout prevention advice, critiquing surface-level solutions like "take advantage of company benefits" or "have meeting blackout days" in favor of more systemic approaches. Whether you're an HR professional feeling overwhelmed by increasing demands and limited resources, or a leader looking to better support your HR team, this episode offers both validation and practical strategies for addressing burnout in the human resources field. The discussion particularly resonates in a post-pandemic context, where HR roles have faced greater demands while often being first in line for resource cuts. Connect with Stephanie: On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephanielemek/ At her website: https://www.thewoundedworkforce.com/ Connect with Julie: On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/iamjulieturney/ At her website: https://www.hratheart.com/ Connect with Stacey: On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/staceynordwall/ Articles and book: Beyond burnout: Why changing how we talk about employee well-being could help solve it Half of HR report burnout, wanting renewed job focus Why HR leaders are struggling to retain their own team members. 8 Surprising HR Burnout Statistics in 2025. Burnout

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