"The Riff" with Byrne Hobart and Erik Torenberg (Byrne Hobart, Erik Torenberg)

In our third episode of The Riff, Byrne Hobart and Erik Torenberg discuss the evolving story of Sam Altman’s ousting at OpenAI and new home at Microsoft, what OpenAI's next pivot could look like, the new competitive landscape for the big AI players, and Effective Altruism’s role in this drama. -- We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com. -- RECOMMENDED PODCAST: LIVE PLAYERS Join host Samo Burja and Erik Torenberg as they analyze the mindsets of today’s most intriguing business leaders, investors, and innovators through the lens of their bold actions and contrarian worldviews. You’ll come away with a deeper understanding of the development of technology, business, political power, culture and more. Listen and subscribe everywhere you get your podcasts: https://link.chtbl.com/liveplayers. -- The Riff is a part of the Turpentine podcast network. Learn more: turpentine.co -- LINKS: Byrne's writing: https://thediff.co -- X / TWITTER: @eriktorenberg @byrnehobart -- TIMESTAMPS: (00:00) Episode Preview (00:30) Non obvious thoughts about governance and legal structures (03:30) Could the board have found out something about Sam? (04:40) Tech’s online coordination and choosing sides (06:00) Why haven’t the OpenAI board shared their reasoning? (12:00) Are they going to bring Sam back? (15:00) What should OpenAI’s pivot be? (17:15) Sponsor: Secureframe (18:20) Analyzing Microsoft's moves and the sweetheart deal (21:40) Satya's succession plans (24:45) OpenAI's unique governance structure (27:50) Why Byrne is long Microsoft (35:40) What explains Microsoft's turnaround? (37:55) Meta and Google (44:00) Which of these companies Byrne would short: Apple, Amazon, Google, Facebook, Microsoft (46:00) Was this a coup from the Effective Altruism movement?

Today's episode is a throwback to when Erik interviewed Byrne Hobart for the first time on the Venture Stories by Village Global podcast. Byrne and Erik go deep on technological change, debate centralization versus decentralization, discuss mental models for financial bubbles, and examine human nature from the lens of different thinkers. The Riff is sponsored by Shopify: https://shopify.com/momentofzen for a $1/month trial period. --- The Riff is a part of the Turpentine podcast network. Learn more: https://turpentine.co --- Check out Erik's new show Request for Startups featuring a rotating cast of founders and investors sharing their requests for startups they want to exist in the world, and also their stories of navigating the idea maze in different sectors so founders don’t have to reinvent the wheel anymore. The first episode is out now - we cover better dating apps, references as a service, and WeWork for productivity Watch and Subscribe on Substack: https://requestforstartups.substack.com/p/receipt-based-dating-reference-checks Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/request-for-startups-with-erik-torenberg/id1728659822 Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/739L1LR32QI2XyoZlRh5nv --- We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com. --- Thanks to our sponsor: SHOPIFY Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of all e-commerce in the US. And Shopify’s the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy’s, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries. From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you’re selling, Shopify’s got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/momentofzen --- LINKS: Byrne's writing: https://thediff.co --- X / TWITTER: @eriktorenberg (Erik) @byrnehobart (Byrne) @turpentinemedia (Turpentine) --- TIMESTAMPS: (00:00) Intro (01:11) Byrne's Approach to Understanding (02:56) Productivity Growth (06:38) Debate on Globalization (16:30) Sponsor: Shopify (18:12) Understanding the Impact of Geography, Demographics, and Energy (27:25) State Capacity Libertarianism (33:21) Predicting the Future of US-China Relationship (34:37) Lessons from the East Asian Economic Miracles (35:42) The Role of Corruption in Economic Growth (36:32) Strategies for Subsidizing Exports (38:05) The Impact of Anti-Globalization Movements (38:30) The Trade Deficit Debate (46:21) Charter Cities (52:38) The Techlash (01:07:38) The Future of Wall Street and Its Impact on Society (01:17:53) The Power of the Dollar System (01:18:55) Understanding Negative Interest Rates (01:20:43) The Impact of Low Interest Rates on Infrastructure Development (01:25:05) The Impact of Demographics on Long Term Bonds (01:27:48) The Problem of Underfunded Pensions (01:28:52) Understanding Financial Bubbles (01:33:37) The Dynamics of Centralization and Decentralization (01:50:43) The Future of Silicon Valley and California (01:56:31) Disagreements with Notable Thinkers

This week, Erik and Byrne discuss the impact of technological change on markets, debate the feasibility of Argentine-style economic policies in the U.S., discuss government efficiency, payroll costs, and political dynamics, including the potential economic effects of a Trump administration and strategies of figures like Elon Musk and Sam Altman. For full shownotes, visit: https://highlightai.com/share/da0b923d-7d50-4459-b8e9-d0bf87710da7 — 🙏 Help shape our show by taking our quick listener survey at https://bit.ly/TurpentinePulse. — RECOMMENDED PODCAST: 🎙️ Unpack Pricing - Dive into the dark arts of SaaS pricing with Metronome CEO Scott Woody and tech leaders. Learn how strategic pricing drives explosive revenue growth in today's biggest companies like Snowflake, Cockroach Labs, Dropbox and more. Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1765716600 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/38DK3W1Fq1xxQalhDSueFg --- SPONSORS: Take your personal data back with Incogni! Use code ECON102 at the link below and get 60% off an annual plan: http://incogni.com/econ102 📑 Discover Carta, the innovative end-to-end accounting platform revolutionizing private fund management with streamlined operations and on-demand insights. Experience the new standard at https://carta.com/investors/ --- LINKS: Byrne’s writing: https://thediff.co --- X / TWITTER: https://twitter.com/ByrneHobart (Byrne) https://twitter.com/TurpentineMedia (Turpentine)

This week's episode is the second part of Erik's March 2020 interview with Byrne on Venture Stories from Village Global. Erik and Byrne about generalists vs specialists, how the work of Rene Girard can be used to understand financial bubbles, the role of pseudonyms, why duopolies exist, and more. The Riff is sponsored by Shopify: https://shopify.com/momentofzen for a $1/month trial period. --- The Riff is a part of the Turpentine podcast network. Learn more: https://turpentine.co --- Check out Erik's new show Request for Startups featuring a rotating cast of founders and investors sharing their requests for startups they want to exist in the world, and also their stories of navigating the idea maze in different sectors so founders don’t have to reinvent the wheel anymore. The first episode is out now - we cover better dating apps, references as a service, and WeWork for productivity Watch and Subscribe on Substack: https://requestforstartups.substack.com/p/receipt-based-dating-reference-checks Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/request-for-startups-with-erik-torenberg/id1728659822 Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/739L1LR32QI2XyoZlRh5nv --- We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com. --- Thanks to our sponsor: SHOPIFY Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of all e-commerce in the US. And Shopify’s the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy’s, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries. From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you’re selling, Shopify’s got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/momentofzen --- LINKS: Byrne's writing: https://thediff.co --- X / TWITTER: @eriktorenberg (Erik) @byrnehobart (Byrne) @turpentinemedia (Turpentine) --- TIMESTAMPS (00:00) Intro (00:01:10) The fox-hedgehog dichotomy and specialists vs generalists (00:11:09) Finance as a metaphor for everything (00:21:48) Sponsor | Shopify (00:23:22) Darwinian metaphors for relationships (00:27:06) Does everything move left over time? (00:41:26) The role of Christianity in the West (00:46:35) Girardian analysis of financial bubbles (00:52:17) Austrian economics & the legacy of Alan Greenspan (01:00:21) The future of homeschooling (01:04:41) The role of pseudonyms & the future of identity (01:17:50) Why is there so much political polarization? (01:24:36) The role of government in Wall Street (01:44:31) Understanding social capital (01:48:58) How to think about financial bubbles (01:55:45) Comparing text and audio content (02:01:08) Byrne on Samo Burja (02:03:24) The tyranny of the long generation (02:08:01) Silicon Valley's approach to politics (02:16:49) Why are there so many duopolies? (02:25:01) What Byrne was thinking about in March 2020 --- The Riff is a production from Turpentine Producer: Sam Kaufman For guest or sponsorship inquiries please contact Sam@turpentine.co

On this week's episode of The Riff, Erik and Byrne talk about Amazon’s potential to buy a passenger airline, hidden economic gains, equities, and more. beehiiv: Head to https://Beehiiv.com and use code "MOZ" for 20% off your first three months. 🔥 Apply to join over 400 founders and Execs in the Turpentine Network: https://hmplogxqz0y.typeform.com/to/JCkphVqj --- This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at erik@turpentine.co. --- SPONSORS: beehiiv beehiiv: Head to beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝 Head to https://beehiiv.com and use code "MOZ" for 20% off your first three months --- RECOMMENDED PODCAST: Autopilot explores the adoption and rollout of AI in the industries that drive the economy and the dynamic founders bringing rapid change to slow-moving industries. From law, to hardware, to aviation, Will Summerlin interviews founders backed by Benchmark, Greylock, and more to learn how they're automating at the frontiers in entrenched industries. Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6YQZkKHN7EP2yWedAvSxBC?si=18377c69a2804333 Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/autopilot-with-will-summerlin/id1738163836 --- TIMESTAMPS: (00:00) Intro (00:20) Amazon's Unique Business Model and Expansion Strategy (03:11) The Intricacies of the Airline Business Model (05:58) Amazon's Long-Term Strategy and Customer Focus (10:01) Potential for Amazon to Disrupt the Airline Industry (17:27) Sponsor: Beehiiv (18:33) Blackstone's Real Estate Ventures and Market Dynamics (28:26) Understanding Financial Planning and Investment Strategies (29:01) Exploring the Nuances of Preferred vs. Common Stock (31:03) The Impact of Unions on Company Profits and Shareholder Value (35:38) The Role and Evolution of Unions in Balancing Labor and Capital (41:50) Analyzing the New York Times' Adaptation to Digital Media Trends (51:21) The Invisible Efficiencies of Technological Advancements (57:12) Wrap --- LINKS: Byrne’s writing: https://thediff.co --- X / TWITTER: https://twitter.com/eriktorenberg (Erik) https://twitter.com/ByrneHobart (Byrne) https://twitter.com/TurpentineMedia (Turpentine) --- For guest or sponsorship inquiries please contact Sam@turpentine.co

On this week’s episode of The Riff, Byrne Hobart and Erik Torenberg discuss tricky antitrust decisions, Balaji’s Network State, the dynamics of content moderation, and more. 🔥Apply to join over 400 founders and execs in the Turpentine Network: https://hmplogxqz0y.typeform.com/to/JCkphVqj --- RECOMMENDED PODCASTS: 🎙️ This Won't Last - Eavesdrop on Keith Rabois, Kevin Ryan, Logan Bartlett, and Zach Weinberg's monthly backchannel. They unpack their hottest takes on the future of tech, business, venture, investing, and politics. Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1765665937 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2HwSNeVLL1MXy0RjFPyOSz YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ThisWontLastpodcast --- SPONSORS: BABBEL: 🌐 Ready to achieve your 2024 goals? Start learning a new language with Babbel in just three weeks. Enjoy app lessons, live classes, and podcasts designed for real-world conversations. Get up to 60% off at babbel.com/zen BRAVE: Get first-party targeting with Brave’s private ad platform: cookieless and future proof ad formats for all your business needs. Performance meets privacy. Head to https://brave.com/brave-ads/ and mention “Turpentine” when signing up for a 25% discount on your first campaign. --- LINKS: Byrne’s writing: https://thediff.co --- X / TWITTER: https://twitter.com/ByrneHobart (Byrne) https://twitter.com/TurpentineMedia (Turpentine) --- TIMESTAMPS: (00:00) Intro (00:23) Paradox of antitrust in tech (03:00) Consumer welfare vs. market dominance (09:48) Lina Khan (13:29) Sponsors: Babbel | Brave (15:53) Corporate social responsibility and privatization (20:28) AI trust and the impact of fake content (26:48) Technical inputs into AI  (31:40) Absurdity heuristic  (32:24) Exploring intangible capital (39:05) Network States and organizational challenges (48:13) Politics and social media dynamics (55:34) Conservative and progressive elites (01:00:26) Wrap

On this week's episode of The Riff, Erik and Byrne discuss Elon Musk's and Yann Lecun's Tweets, what we can learn from Google's API decumentation leaks, how Apple is planning on improving Siri, and more. beehiiv: Head to https://beehiiv.com and use code "MOZ" for 20% off your first three months. 🔥 Apply to join over 400 founders and Execs in the Turpentine Network: https://hmplogxqz0y.typeform.com/to/JCkphVqj --- This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at erik@turpentine.co. --- SPONSORS: BABBEL: 🌐 Ready to achieve your 2024 goals? Start learning a new language with Babbel in just three weeks. Enjoy app lessons, live classes, and podcasts designed for real-world conversations. Get up to 60% off at https://babbel.com/MOZ. BEEHIIV: Head to beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝 Head to https://beehiiv.com and use code "MOZ" for 20% off your first three months --- RECOMMENDED PODCAST: Autopilot explores the adoption and rollout of AI in the industries that drive the economy and the dynamic founders bringing rapid change to slow-moving industries. From law, to hardware, to aviation, Will Summerlin interviews founders backed by Benchmark, Greylock, and more to learn how they're automating at the frontiers in entrenched industries. Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6YQZkKHN7EP2yWedAvSxBC?si=18377c69a2804333 Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/autopilot-with-will-summerlin/id1738163836 - 📈 ECON 102 W/ NOAH SMITH - Keeping econ entertaining - Noahpinion author Noah Smith and Erik Torenberg break down business news and politics every week. Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3Mos4VE3figVXleHDqfXOH Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/id1753399812https://podcasts.apple.com/id1753399812 --- TIMESTAMPS: (00:00) Intro (00:21) Elon Musk's and Yann Lecun's Twitter exchange (02:26) Institutional decay (07:54) Activist campaign against Texas Instruments (16:36) Sponsors: Babbel | beehiiv (19:10) Poorly executed fraud from Getty investor (27:41) What we can learn from the Google API documentation leak (35:07) Apple's planned improvements for Siri (40:12) Wrap --- LINKS: Byrne’s writing: https://thediff.co --- X / TWITTER: https://twitter.com/eriktorenberg (Erik) https://twitter.com/ByrneHobart (Byrne) https://twitter.com/TurpentineMedia (Turpentine) --- For guest or sponsorship inquiries please contact Sam@turpentine.co

This week, Erik Torenberg and Byrne Hobart explore the evolving landscape of heretical ideas, election dynamics, AI and crypto’s market impacts, prediction markets, the shifting Overton window, contrarian perspectives, and trends in housing and smaller social networks. For full shownotes, visit: https://highlightai.com/share/77be6b84-0f55-4dcc-9dd1-c69341272e2e --- 📰Be notified early when Turpentine drops new publication: https://www.turpentine.co/exclusiveaccess --- RECOMMENDED PODCAST: 🎙️ Unpack Pricing - Dive into the dark arts of SaaS pricing with Metronome CEO Scott Woody and tech leaders. Learn how strategic pricing drives explosive revenue growth in today's biggest companies like Snowflake, Cockroach Labs, Dropbox and more. Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1765716600 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/38DK3W1Fq1xxQalhDSueFg --- SPONSORS: 📑 Discover Carta, the innovative end-to-end accounting platform revolutionizing private fund management with streamlined operations and on-demand insights. Experience the new standard at https://carta.com/investors/ --- LINKS: Byrne’s writing: https://thediff.co --- X / TWITTER: https://twitter.com/ByrneHobart (Byrne) https://twitter.com/TurpentineMedia (Turpentine)

This week, Byrne and Erik discuss the idea of taxing unrealized capital gains, networked nature of the finance industry, the strategic direction of Uber in autonomous vehicles, the merits of 'founder mode' and more. 🔥 Apply to join over 400 Founders and execs in the Turpentine Network: https://www.turpentinenetwork.co/ --- RECOMMENDED PODCASTS: 🎙️ This Won't Last - Eavesdrop on Keith Rabois, Kevin Ryan, Logan Bartlett, and Zach Weinberg's monthly backchannel. They unpack their hottest takes on the future of tech, business, venture, investing, and politics. Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1765665937 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2HwSNeVLL1MXy0RjFPyOSz YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ThisWontLastpodcast --- SPONSORS: BABBEL: 🌐 Ready to achieve your 2024 goals? Start learning a new language with Babbel in just three weeks. Enjoy app lessons, live classes, and podcasts designed for real-world conversations. Get up to 60% off at babbel.com/zen BRAVE: Get first-party targeting with Brave’s private ad platform: cookieless and future proof ad formats for all your business needs. Performance meets privacy. Head to https://brave.com/brave-ads/ and mention “Turpentine” when signing up for a 25% discount on your first campaign. --- LINKS: Byrne’s writing: https://thediff.co --- X / TWITTER: https://twitter.com/ByrneHobart (Byrne) https://twitter.com/TurpentineMedia (Turpentine) --- TIMESTAMPS: (00:00) Intro (00:21) Taxing unrealized gains (08:57) Economic theories on taxation and consumption (12:40) Role of taxation in government spending (15:23) Impact of taxation on the startup ecosystem (22:58) Sponsors: Babbel | Brave (25:23) Real estate and mortgage market insights (31:00) Introduction to pod shops (37:38) Uber's autonomous vehicle strategy (45:57) Valuing companies: Cash flow vs. Dividends (51:04) Nominal GDP targeting and economic policy (55:34) Implications of founder mode (59:26) Wrap

On this week’s episode of The Riff, Byrne Hobart and Erik Torenberg discuss the Silicon Valley Canon, impact of tech on traditional markets, the evolution of smart contracts, risks of currency carry trades and more. 🔥 Apply to join over 400 Founders and execs in the Turpentine Network: https://www.turpentinenetwork.co/ --- RECOMMENDED PODCASTS: 🎙️ This Won't Last - Eavesdrop on Keith Rabois, Kevin Ryan, Logan Bartlett, and Zach Weinberg's monthly backchannel. They unpack their hottest takes on the future of tech, business, venture, investing, and politics. Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1765665937 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2HwSNeVLL1MXy0RjFPyOSz YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ThisWontLastpodcast --- SPONSORS: BABBEL: 🌐 Ready to achieve your 2024 goals? Start learning a new language with Babbel in just three weeks. Enjoy app lessons, live classes, and podcasts designed for real-world conversations. Get up to 60% off at babbel.com/zen BRAVE: Get first-party targeting with Brave’s private ad platform: cookieless and future proof ad formats for all your business needs. Performance meets privacy. Head to https://brave.com/brave-ads/ and mention “Turpentine” when signing up for a 25% discount on your first campaign. --- LINKS: Byrne’s writing: https://thediff.co Longreads + Open Thread: https://www.thediff.co/archive/longreads-open-thread-90/ --- X / TWITTER: https://twitter.com/ByrneHobart (Byrne) https://twitter.com/TurpentineMedia (Turpentine) --- TIMESTAMPS: (00:00) Intro (00:26) Silicon Valley Canon (05:45) Silicon Valley's intellectual evolution (08:52) Who is leading Silicon Valley’s intellectual influence? (14:41) Variance of Mission-Driven Companies (19:50) Shareholder activism and private equity strategies (28:30) Sponsors: Babbel | Brave (30:57) Understanding extreme stock returns (35:38) Retailers and the ad business (39:14) Walmart's membership strategy (42:38) Environmental impact of data centers (47:01) Oracle problem in smart contracts (52:39) Currency carry trade (57:28) Ryan Breslow's controversial deal (01:00:15) Wrap

On this week's episode of The Riff, Erik and Byrne discuss the mortality of corporations, why momentum investing works, and when to learn from extreme events. The Riff is sponsored by Shopify: https://shopify.com/momentofzen for a $1/month trial period. --- The Riff is a part of the Turpentine podcast network. Learn more: https://turpentine.co --- Check out Erik's new show Request for Startups featuring a rotating cast of founders and investors sharing their requests for startups they want to exist in the world, and also their stories of navigating the idea maze in different sectors so founders don’t have to reinvent the wheel anymore. The first episode is out now - we cover better dating apps, references as a service, and WeWork for productivity Watch and Subscribe on Substack: https://requestforstartups.substack.com/p/receipt-based-dating-reference-checks Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/request-for-startups-with-erik-torenberg/id1728659822 Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/739L1LR32QI2XyoZlRh5nv --- We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com. --- Thanks to our sponsor: SHOPIFY Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of all e-commerce in the US. And Shopify’s the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy’s, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries. From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you’re selling, Shopify’s got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/momentofzen --- LINKS: Byrne's writing: https://thediff.co --- X / TWITTER: @eriktorenberg (Erik) @byrnehobart (Byrne) @turpentinemedia (Turpentine) --- TIMESTAMPS (00:00) Intro (00:44) Corporate mortality (10:16) The persistence of social class (16:42) Sponsor | Shopify (18:17) Learning from Extreme Events (25:43) Understanding momentum investing (36:06) What to learn from the economics of trade magazines (43:25) Brainstorming Turpentine & how to build a media business (52:15) Wrap --- The Riff is a production from Turpentine Producer: Sam Kaufman Editor: Seven Morris For guest or sponsorship inquiries please contact Sam@turpentine.co

This week on The Riff, Erik and Byrne talk about why you should ignore the 2024 presidential election news cycle, the barriers to the success of prediction markets, why the United States can't be a net exporter, and more. The Riff is sponsored by Shopify: https://shopify.com/momentofzen for a $1/month trial period. --- The Riff is a part of the Turpentine podcast network. Learn more: https://turpentine.co --- Check out Erik's new show Request for Startups featuring a rotating cast of founders and investors sharing their requests for startups they want to exist in the world, and also their stories of navigating the idea maze in different sectors so founders don’t have to reinvent the wheel anymore. The first episode is out now - we cover better dating apps, references as a service, and WeWork for productivity Watch and Subscribe on Substack: https://requestforstartups.substack.com/p/receipt-based-dating-reference-checks Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/request-for-startups-with-erik-torenberg/id1728659822 Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/739L1LR32QI2XyoZlRh5nv --- We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com. --- Thanks to our sponsor: SHOPIFY Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of all e-commerce in the US. And Shopify’s the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy’s, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries. From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you’re selling, Shopify’s got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/momentofzen --- LINKS: Byrne's writing: https://thediff.co --- X / TWITTER: @eriktorenberg (Erik) @byrnehobart (Byrne) @turpentinemedia (Turpentine) --- TIMESTAMPS: (00:00) Intro (00:50) Byrne talks about why we should ignore stuff about politics for this 2024 election (07:35) The underrated impact of either a Biden or Trump presidency (12:12) The barriers to the success of prediction markets (16:27) Sponsor | Shopify (18:10) Prediction markets for career success (24:20) The economics of information and the give-to-get model (30:53) Mass adoption of prediction markets (35:35) Why do companies buy expensive headquarters? (45:10) Industry talent cycles (51:32) Russia and China - building economic blocs from net exporters (56:55) Wrap --- The Riff is a production from Turpentine Producer: Sam Kaufman Editor: Seven Morris For guest or sponsorship inquiries please contact Sam@turpentine.co

In our first episode of The Riff, Byrne Hobart and Erik Torenberg discuss Byrne's writing for his newsletter The DIff, his biggest influences, and the fall of Sam Bankman-Fried. The Riff is part of the Turpentine podcast network. Learn more: turpentine.co -- We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com. -- RECOMMENDED PODCAST: LIVE PLAYERS Join host Samo Burja and Erik Torenberg as they analyze the mindsets of today’s most intriguing business leaders, investors, and innovators through the lens of their bold actions and contrarian worldviews. You’ll come away with a deeper understanding of the development of technology, business, political power, culture and more. LIsten and subscribe everywhere you get your podcasts: https://link.chtbl.com/liveplayers. Thanks to our sponsor: Secureframe Secureframe: the only compliance automation platform with AI capabilities that help customers speed up cloud remediation and security questionnaires. Get 20% off your first year of Secureframe by mentioning "The Riff" during your free demo: https://secureframe.com/riff  -- LINKS: Byrne's writing: https://thediff.co -- X / TWITTER: @eriktorenberg @byrnehobart -- TIMESTAMPS: (00:00) Intro (00:05) Byrne's moonshot and the intersection of finance and technology (04:28) What Bryne thinks is his best piece ever written in 2020 and before (11:29) Byrne's take on fake jobs in the economy (15:44) Which historical figure is Byrne seeking to play as? (20:41) Does Byrne have this big idea he keeps coming back to? (27:37) Byrne's analysis on Michael Lewis (30:12) On Michael Lewis' book "Going Infinite" and the fall of FTX (45:27) Blogging and the innermost thoughts of prominent people (47:39) Byrne's analysis on crypto

This week, Byrne Hobart and Erik Torenberg is joined by Tae Kim, author of The NVIDIA Way, exploring NVIDIA's remarkable journey, culture, and what sets the company apart under Jensen Huang's leadership. --- 🙏 Help shape our show by taking our quick listener survey at https://bit.ly/TurpentinePulse. --- Highlights from the Episode: NVIDIA's success stems from its relentless work culture, emphasis on talent cultivation, and ability to execute at high velocity while minimizing internal politics. The company's "rough justice" philosophy in business partnerships, particularly with TSMC, focuses on long-term relationships over short-term gains. Jensen Huang's unique management style includes a flat organizational structure with 60 direct reports and "top five emails" system for real-time company insights. --- RECOMMENDED PODCAST: Check out Modern Relationships, where Erik Torenberg interviews tech power couples and leading thinkers to explore how ambitious people actually make partnerships work. Founders Fund's Delian Asparouhov and researcher Nadia Asparouhova kick off the series with an unfiltered conversation about their relationship evolution. Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1786227593 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5hJzs0gDg6lRT6r10mdpVg YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ModernRelationshipsPod -- SPONSORS: 📑 Discover Carta, the innovative end-to-end accounting platform revolutionizing private fund management with streamlined operations and on-demand insights. Experience the new standard at https://carta.com/investors/ --- LINKS: Byrne’s writing: https://thediff.co Tae’s newsletter: https://firstadopter.substack.com/ The Nvidia Way: https://www.amazon.com/Nvidia-Way-Jensen-Huang-Making/dp/1324086718 --- X / TWITTER: https://twitter.com/firstadopter (Tae) https://twitter.com/ByrneHobart (Byrne) https://twitter.com/TurpentineMedia (Turpentine)

This week, writer Byrne Hobart and investor Erik Torenberg discuss new updatates from OpenAI, Byrne's macroeconomic predictions, the importance of software for Microsoft, and more. Moment of Zen is sponsored by Shopify: https://shopify.com/momentofzen for a $1/month trial period. --- The Riff is a part of the Turpentine podcast network. Learn more: turpentine.co --- Check out Erik's new show Request for Startups featuring a rotating cast of founders and investors sharing their requests for startups they want to exist in the world, and also their stories of navigating the idea maze in different sectors so founders don’t have to reinvent the wheel anymore. The first episode is out now - we cover better dating apps, references as a service, and WeWork for productivity Watch and Subscribe on Substack: https://requestforstartups.substack.com/p/receipt-based-dating-reference-checks Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/request-for-startups-with-erik-torenberg/id1728659822 Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/739L1LR32QI2XyoZlRh5nv --- We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com. --- Thanks to our sponsor: SHOPIFY Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of all e-commerce in the US. And Shopify’s the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy’s, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries. From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you’re selling, Shopify’s got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/momentofzen. --- LINKS: Byrne's writing: https://thediff.co --- RECOMMENDED PODCAST: Live Players With Samo Burja Join host Samo Burja and Erik Torenberg as they analyze the mindsets of today’s most intriguing business leaders, investors, and innovators through the lens of their bold actions and contrarian worldviews. Think: Elon, Sam Altman, Peter Thiel, George Soros and more. You’ll come away with a deeper understanding of the development of technology, business, political power, culture and more. Listen and subscribe everywhere you get your podcasts: https://link.chtbl.com/liveplayers --- X / TWITTER: @eriktorenberg (Erik) @byrnehobart (Byrne) --- TIMESTAMPS: (00:00) Intro (00:20) New updates on OpenAI (02:50) The continuum between overcoming natural inertia and a Ponzi scheme (04:03) Whoever actually has negotiating leverage is in charge (06:28) The uncertainty theory of conflict (13:04) Lags in AI product release (17:37) Sponsor - Shopify (19:12) Crypto markets (26:48) Byrne's macro predictions (31:00) Deep dive on McDonald's loyalty program (38:59) Byrne's perspective on the effect of minimum wage (49:42) Donor activism at colleges (58:29) Wrap --- The Riff is a production from Turpentine Producer: Sam Kaufman Editor: Seven Morris For guest or sponsorship inquiries please contact Sam@turpentine.co

This week, Byrne Hobart and Erik Torenberg tackle the current state of the EU's tech sector, evolution of private equity firms, consumer credit defaults, online reputation management and more. 🔥 Apply to join over 400 Founders and execs in the Turpentine Network: https://www.turpentinenetwork.co/ --- RECOMMENDED PODCASTS: 🎙️ This Won't Last - Eavesdrop on Keith Rabois, Kevin Ryan, Logan Bartlett, and Zach Weinberg's monthly backchannel. They unpack their hottest takes on the future of tech, business, venture, investing, and politics. Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1765665937 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2HwSNeVLL1MXy0RjFPyOSz YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ThisWontLastpodcast --- SPONSORS: BABBEL: 🌐 Ready to achieve your 2024 goals? Start learning a new language with Babbel in just three weeks. Enjoy app lessons, live classes, and podcasts designed for real-world conversations. Get up to 60% off at babbel.com/zen BRAVE: Get first-party targeting with Brave’s private ad platform: cookieless and future proof ad formats for all your business needs. Performance meets privacy. Head to https://brave.com/brave-ads/ and mention “Turpentine” when signing up for a 25% discount on your first campaign. --- LINKS: Byrne’s writing: https://thediff.co Will The EU Choose to Compete?: https://www.thediff.co/archive/will-the-eu-choose-to-compete/ --- X / TWITTER: https://twitter.com/ByrneHobart (Byrne) https://twitter.com/TurpentineMedia (Turpentine) --- TIMESTAMPS: (00:00) Intro (00:27) Current state of the EU tech industry (07:21) Degrowth and economic progress (12:12) Competent bureaucracy and government services (18:24) Javier Milei, Vivek, and Trump (25:06) Sponsor: Babbel | Brave (27:32) Consumer confidence and economic perceptions (30:48) Deflation and credit creation (42:45) The Evolution of Private Equity (50:21) Online Reputation Management (54:50) Wrap

On this week's episode of The Riff, Erik and Byrne talk about meme stocks, the nature of reserve currencies, and why you should consider not owning a home in America. beehiiv: Head to https://beehiiv.com and use code "MOZ" for 20% off your first three months. 🔥 Apply to join over 400 founders and Execs in the Turpentine Network: https://hmplogxqz0y.typeform.com/to/JCkphVqj --- This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at erik@turpentine.co. --- SPONSORS: beehiiv Head to beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝 Head to https://beehiiv.com and use code "MOZ" for 20% off your first three months --- RECOMMENDED PODCAST: Autopilot explores the adoption and rollout of AI in the industries that drive the economy and the dynamic founders bringing rapid change to slow-moving industries. From law, to hardware, to aviation, Will Summerlin interviews founders backed by Benchmark, Greylock, and more to learn how they're automating at the frontiers in entrenched industries. Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6YQZkKHN7EP2yWedAvSxBC?si=18377c69a2804333 Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/autopilot-with-will-summerlin/id1738163836 Timestamps: (00:00) Intro (00:27) The case against home ownership (06:07) The U.S. Dollar as a reserve currency (17:49) Sponsor: beehiiv (18:59) Colluding in the oil industry (24:57) Meme stocks (27:40) Why it's hard to copy Renaissance Technologies (36:40) The shutdown of Weiss Multi-Strategy (40:16) Alternative financial histories (45:46) How NewBank attracts talent (49:46) App store dynamics (52:17) Optimal financial education (56:59) Investing in people (01:01:28) Wrap --- LINKS: Byrne’s writing: https://thediff.co --- X / TWITTER: https://twitter.com/eriktorenberg (Erik) https://twitter.com/ByrneHobart (Byrne) https://twitter.com/TurpentineMedia (Turpentine) --- For guest or sponsorship inquiries please contact Sam@turpentine.co

This week, Byrne Hobart and Erik Torenberg discuss the shifting dynamics of careers and education, the notion of "auto-paternalism" in organizational choices, Spotify's growth strategy in a mature market, the future of podcasts and audio content, and the intricate relationship between AI art, property rights and more. 🔥 Apply to join over 400 Founders and execs in the Turpentine Network: https://www.turpentinenetwork.co/ --- RECOMMENDED PODCASTS: 🎙️ This Won't Last - Eavesdrop on Keith Rabois, Kevin Ryan, Logan Bartlett, and Zach Weinberg's monthly backchannel. They unpack their hottest takes on the future of tech, business, venture, investing, and politics. Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1765665937 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2HwSNeVLL1MXy0RjFPyOSz YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ThisWontLastpodcast --- SPONSORS: BRAVE: Get first-party targeting with Brave’s private ad platform: cookieless and future proof ad formats for all your business needs. Performance meets privacy. Head to https://brave.com/brave-ads/ and mention “Turpentine” when signing up for a 25% discount on your first campaign. --- LINKS: Byrne’s writing: https://thediff.co --- X / TWITTER: https://twitter.com/ByrneHobart (Byrne) https://twitter.com/TurpentineMedia (Turpentine) --- TIMESTAMPS: (00:00) Intro (00:27) Career advantages (05:00) Young entrepreneurs today (09:38) Money and legitimacy (17:57) Sponsor: Brave (18:59) Education and critical thinking (27:34) Disrupting higher education (39:25) Auto paternalism in organizations (48:13) Spotify's market strategy (53:39) AI art and property rights (57:07) Wrap

In this episode of The Riff, Byrne Hobart discusses his upcoming book about financial bubbles, venture scale businesses, creator financing, and prediction markets. For full shownotes, visit: https://highlightai.com/share/d084ef81-e3cd-41b2-be04-b6fc2bbe3f7a 📰Be notified early when Turpentine drops new publication: https://www.turpentine.co/exclusiveaccess --- SPONSORS: 📑 Discover Carta, the innovative end-to-end accounting platform revolutionizing private fund management with streamlined operations and on-demand insights. Experience the new standard at https://carta.com/investors/ --- LINKS: Byrne’s writing: https://thediff.co Byrne's book: https://www.stripe.press/boom --- X / TWITTER: https://twitter.com/ByrneHobart (Byrne) https://twitter.com/TurpentineMedia (Turpentine)

On this week's episode of The Riff, Erik and Byrne discuss the evolution of monetary systems, the economics of AI investments, and how AI is impacting the job market for junior software developers. 🔥Apply to join over 400 founders and execs in the Turpentine Network: https://hmplogxqz0y.typeform.com/to/JCkphVqj --- SPONSORS: BABBEL: 🌐 Ready to achieve your 2024 goals? Start learning a new language with Babbel in just three weeks. Enjoy app lessons, live classes, and podcasts designed for real-world conversations. Get up to 60% off at https://babbel.com/torenberg BEEHIIV: Head to beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝 Head to https://beehiiv.com and use code "MOZ" for 20% off your first three months --- RECOMMENDED PODCAST: 🎙️ Second Opinion - A new podcast for health-tech insiders from Christina Farr of the Second Opinion newsletter. Join Christina Farr, Luba Greenwood, and Ash Zenooz every week as they challenge industry experts with tough questions about the best bets in health-tech. Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1759267211 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0A8NwQE976s32zdBbZw6bv - 📈 ECON 102 W/ NOAH SMITH - Keeping econ entertaining - Noahpinion author Noah Smith and Erik Torenberg break down business news and politics every week. Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3Mos4VE3figVXleHDqfXOH Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/id1753399812https://podcasts.apple.com/id1753399812 --- TIMESTAMPS: (00:00) Intro (00:21) Centralization and AI (03:32) Challenges of centralized planning with AI (04:20) Curtis Yarvin's influence on modern governance (09:53) Comparing government and corporate structures (14:22) Succession problem in governance (17:56) Sponsors: Babbel | Beehiiv (20:30) Tony Blair's insights on governance (29:43) Impact of AI on fame (33:16) Future of digital celebrities (36:15) Evolution of monetary systems (42:51) AI's economic impact and challenges (51:12) Changing job market for developers (59:04) Outro --- LINKS: Byrne’s writing: https://thediff.co --- X / TWITTER: https://twitter.com/eriktorenberg (Erik) https://twitter.com/ByrneHobart (Byrne) https://twitter.com/TurpentineMedia (Turpentine)

In this special episode of The Riff, Erik Torenberg and Patrick McKenzie explore the evolving landscape of tech journalism, media narratives about the tech industry, and how the industry is increasingly telling its own story. For full shownotes, visit: https://highlightai.com/share/2dab4f2e-f8b1-410b-9bc4-b4a9b137c22f 📰Be notified early when Turpentine drops new publication: https://www.turpentine.co/exclusiveaccess --- RECOMMENDED PODCAST: 🎙️ Unpack Pricing - Dive into the dark arts of SaaS pricing with Metronome CEO Scott Woody and tech leaders. Learn how strategic pricing drives explosive revenue growth in today's biggest companies like Snowflake, Cockroach Labs, Dropbox and more. Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1765716600 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/38DK3W1Fq1xxQalhDSueFg --- SPONSORS: 📑 Discover Carta, the innovative end-to-end accounting platform revolutionizing private fund management with streamlined operations and on-demand insights. Experience the new standard at https://carta.com/investors/ --- LINKS: Byrne’s writing: https://thediff.co --- X / TWITTER: https://x.com/patio11 (Patrick) https://twitter.com/ByrneHobart (Byrne) https://twitter.com/TurpentineMedia (Turpentine)

This week, Erik Torenberg and Byrne Hobart discuss the pod shop hedge fund model, market cycles, AI pricing models, and the future of AI-generated content, with Byrne offering insights on hedge fund evolution, the current market environment, and AI's impact on entertainment and society. --- 🙏 Help shape our show by taking our quick listener survey at https://bit.ly/TurpentinePulse. --- Highlights from the Episode: Pod shop hedge fund model has evolved to focus on delivering uncorrelated returns rather than just beating market indices, with sophisticated risk management and factor-neutral strategies. Current market conditions suggest we may be entering a period where even as companies grow, stock prices may lag due to multiple compression and slower growth expectations. AI pricing models face interesting constraints around liability and human oversight, with potential ceiling prices influenced by existing enterprise software like Bloomberg terminals. --- RECOMMENDED PODCAST: Check out Modern Relationships, where Erik Torenberg interviews tech power couples and leading thinkers to explore how ambitious people actually make partnerships work. Founders Fund's Delian Asparouhov and researcher Nadia Asparouhova kick off the series with an unfiltered conversation about their relationship evolution. Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1786227593 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5hJzs0gDg6lRT6r10mdpVg YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ModernRelationshipsPod --- SPONSORS: 📑 Discover Carta, the innovative end-to-end accounting platform revolutionizing private fund management with streamlined operations and on-demand insights. Experience the new standard at https://carta.com/investors/ --- LINKS: Byrne’s writing: https://thediff.co --- X / TWITTER: https://twitter.com/ByrneHobart (Byrne) https://twitter.com/TurpentineMedia (Turpentine)

On this week's episode of The Riff, Erik and Byrne discuss lessons about Tiger Global from Carrie Sun’s book Private Equity, the role of alternative data in investing, and why it’s hard to make a good dating app. --- The Riff is a part of the Turpentine podcast network. Learn more: turpentine.co --- Check out Erik's new showRequest for Startupsfeaturing a rotating cast of founders and investors sharing their requests for startups they want to exist in the world, and also their stories of navigating the idea maze in different sectors so founders don’t have to reinvent the wheel anymore. Watch and Subscribe on Substack:Request for Startups --- We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com. --- SPONSOR: BRAVE Get first-party targeting with Brave's private ad platform: cookieless and future proof ad formats for all your business needs. Performance meets privacy. Head to https://brave.com/brave-ads/ and mention “MoZ” when signing up for a 25% discount on your first campaign. --- LINKS: Byrne’s writing: thediff.co --- X / TWITTER: @eriktorenberg (Erik) @byrnehobart (Byrne) @turpentinemedia (Turpentine) --- TIMESTAMPS: (00:00) Intro (00:27) What makes Tiger Global tick? (03:36) Assistants make the world go round (08:02) The evolution of executive roles (13:15) Sponsor - Brave (14:17) Scaling deals and the Tiger strategy (24:13) On outsourcing knowledge retrieval (26:05) Leveraging alternative data in investment (34:13) The intersection of journalism and investment (37:53) Research in investment decisions (47:48) Data companies for private markets (55:11) Complexities of the dating app market (1:02:13) Wrap --- For guest or sponsorship inquiries please contact Sam@turpentine.co

On today’s episode, Byrne Hobart delves into the intricacies of technology-induced market shifts, hedge fund dynamics, Byrne’s post on outage economics, and the evolving landscape of open source and proprietary AI models. --- This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at erik@turpentine.co. --- RECOMMENDED PODCAST: Sourcery by Molly O'Shea Sourcery by Molly O’Shea brings the conversations founders and investors have behind closed doors into the light. Subscribe for upcoming episodes with: Delian Asparouhov of Founders Fund and Varda Space, and Chris Power of Hadrian. Spotify & YouTube--- SPONSOR: TURPENTINE | BRAVE Get first-party targeting with Brave's private ad platform: cookieless and future proof ad formats for all your business needs. Performance meets privacy. Head to https://brave.com/brave-ads/ and mention “MoZ” when signing up for a 25% discount on your first campaign. --- LINKS: Byrne’s writing: thediff.co --- X / TWITTER: @eriktorenberg (Erik) @byrnehobart (Byrne) @turpentinemedia (Turpentine) --- TIMESTAMPS: (00:00) Intro (00:20) Exploring Hedge Fund Dynamics: Is Alpha for Sale? (01:52) Hedge Funds and Investment Strategies (10:24) VC Insights on Scaling and Performance Metrics (16:59) Sponsor - Turpentine | Brave (19:37) Advantages Multi-Manager Hedge Funds (23:17) Personal Finance and Hedging Strategies (31:56) Outage Economics (45:09) Search Engines and Data Feedback Loops (47:40) Future Implications pf the Intersection of AI and Search Engines (54:20) Open Source AI: Balancing Innovation, Security, and Business Models (01:03:02) Wrap

This week, Byrne Hobart and Erik Torenberg discuss cult stocks like Tesla and Palantir, debate whether AI or globalization will impact jobs more, explore the energy transition's unexpected reversal, analyze Forbes' content strategy and more. 🔥 Apply to join over 400 Founders and execs in the Turpentine Network: https://www.turpentinenetwork.co/ --- RECOMMENDED PODCASTS: 🎙️ This Won't Last - Eavesdrop on Keith Rabois, Kevin Ryan, Logan Bartlett, and Zach Weinberg's monthly backchannel. They unpack their hottest takes on the future of tech, business, venture, investing, and politics. Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1765665937 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2HwSNeVLL1MXy0RjFPyOSz YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ThisWontLastpodcast --- SPONSORS: BABBEL: 🌐 Ready to achieve your 2024 goals? Start learning a new language with Babbel in just three weeks. Enjoy app lessons, live classes, and podcasts designed for real-world conversations. Get up to 60% off at babbel.com/zen BRAVE: Get first-party targeting with Brave’s private ad platform: cookieless and future proof ad formats for all your business needs. Performance meets privacy. Head to https://brave.com/brave-ads/ and mention “Turpentine” when signing up for a 25% discount on your first campaign. --- LINKS: Byrne’s writing: https://thediff.co --- X / TWITTER: https://twitter.com/ByrneHobart (Byrne) https://twitter.com/TurpentineMedia (Turpentine) --- TIMESTAMPS: (00:00) Intro (00:20) Understanding cult stocks (05:48) ESG investing (09:21) Viability of stock-based social networks (16:53) Vertical social network (19:43) Sponsors: Babbel | Brave (22:08) Role of tick sizes in financial markets (29:03) Tech stocks and market timing (36:24) Job losses: AI vs. Globalization (41:11) Energy transition in reverse (45:49) Forbes' business model and media strategy (52:00) Power of lists in media (01:00:01) Wrap

This week, Byrne and Erik discuss Meta’s open source strategy, Google’s hiring of Character.AI’s CEO, the calculus behind the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, and more. 🔥Apply to join over 400 founders and execs in the Turpentine Network: https://hmplogxqz0y.typeform.com/to/JCkphVqj --- RECOMMENDED PODCASTS: 🎙️ This Won't Last - Eavesdrop on Keith Rabois, Kevin Ryan, Logan Bartlett, and Zach Weinberg's monthly backchannel. They unpack their hottest takes on the future of tech, business, venture, investing, and politics. Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1765665937 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2HwSNeVLL1MXy0RjFPyOSz YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ThisWontLastpodcast --- SPONSORS: BRAVE: Get first-party targeting with Brave’s private ad platform: cookieless and future proof ad formats for all your business needs. Performance meets privacy. Head to https://brave.com/brave-ads/ and mention “Turpentine” when signing up for a 25% discount on your first campaign. --- LINKS: Byrne’s writing: https://thediff.co --- X / TWITTER: https://twitter.com/ByrneHobart (Byrne) https://twitter.com/TurpentineMedia (Turpentine) --- TIMESTAMPS: (00:00) Intro (00:25) Meta's open source AI strategy (07:42) Google's acquisition of Character.AI (12:20) Sponsors: Brave (13:49) Reddit's data deal with Google (16:40) Strategic Petroleum Reserve Management (20:26) Andrew Left's activist shorting troubles (27:46) Job compensation and revenue generation (33:39) Amazon's logistics and growth strategy (36:57) Amazon's historical reinvestment strategy (42:27) Amazon's culture drift and leadership (46:50) Specialized vs Consolidated AI models (52:05) Outro

In this episode, Byrne Hobart and Erik Torenberg discuss how technological changes influence markets and business adaptability. They explore the dynamics and challenges of e-commerce roll-ups, the unique economic incentives of large platforms like Facebook and Google, the complexities of content moderation on social media platforms, and social securities' future liabilities and taxes. --- This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at erik@turpentine.co. --- SPONSOR: BRAVE Get first-party targeting with Brave's private ad platform: cookieless and future proof ad formats for all your business needs. Performance meets privacy. Head to https://brave.com/brave-ads/ and mention “MoZ” when signing up for a 25% discount on your first campaign. --- LINKS: Byrne’s writing: thediff.co --- X / TWITTER: @eriktorenberg (Erik) @byrnehobart (Byrne) @turpentinemedia (Turpentine) --- TIMESTAMPS: (00:00) Intro (00:23) Exploring E-Commerce Roll-Ups and the Amazon Model (07:13) Big Platforms and User Dynamics (10:52) Sponsor: Turpentine | Brave (12:41) The Never-Ending Challenge of Content Moderation (20:33) How AI Could Transform Advertising (29:53) Decoding the Economics of Facebook Marketplace (36:47) Understanding Shrinkflation and Its Impact on Inflation Measurement (45:46) The Future of Social Security: A Mark-to-Market Proposal (55:11) Wrap

In our 5th episode of The Riff, writer Byrne Hobart and investor Erik Torenberg are joined by Thomas Li, the CEO of Daloopa for a deep dive into the world of hedge funds. They discuss what venture capitalists may not know about hedge funds, what most people get wrong, crowding, and risk management. The conversation also touches on the role of the yield curve in investment strategies and the competition between everyday investors and hedge funds. Thomas Li is the CEO of Daloopa, where they provide enterprise grade financial models and model automation to hedge funds, asset management and investment banking. Need Soc 2 compliance? Get 20% off your first year of Secureframe by mentioning "The Riff" during your free demo: https://secureframe.com/riff --- Check out Erik's new show Request for Startups featuring a rotating cast of founders and investors sharing their requests for startups they want to exist in the world, and also their stories of navigating the idea maze in different sectors so founders don’t have to reinvent the wheel anymore. The first episode is out now - we cover better dating apps, references as a service, and WeWork for productivity Watch and Subscribe on Substack: https://requestforstartups.substack.com/p/receipt-based-dating-reference-checks Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/request-for-startups-with-erik-torenberg/id1728659822 Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/739L1LR32QI2XyoZlRh5nv --- We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com. --- The Riff is a part of the Turpentine podcast network. Learn more: turpentine.co -- Thanks to our sponsor: SECUREFRAME Secureframe: the only compliance automation platform with AI capabilities that help customers speed up cloud remediation and security questionnaires. Get 20% off your first year of Secureframe by mentioning "The Riff" during your free demo: https://secureframe.com/riff --- LINKS: Byrne's writing: https://thediff.co --- RECOMMENDED PODCAST: Live Players With Samo Burja Join host Samo Burja and Erik Torenberg as they analyze the mindsets of today’s most intriguing business leaders, investors, and innovators through the lens of their bold actions and contrarian worldviews. Think: Elon, Sam Altman, Peter Thiel, George Soros and more. You’ll come away with a deeper understanding of the development of technology, business, political power, culture and more. LIsten and subscribe everywhere you get your podcasts: https://link.chtbl.com/liveplayers --- X / TWITTER: @eriktorenberg @byrnehobart @Daloopa1 (Daloopa) --- TIMESTAMPS: (00:00) Intro (01:36) Brief overview of hedge funds (04:54) History and landscape of hedge funds (13:08) Top firms and their strategies in the hedge fund world (17:22) Sponsor - SecureFrame (18:19) Hedge funds: Overview of the macro style (20:58) Distressed funds and risk parity (30:23) What they don't want to tell VCs about yield curves and why (32:18) When you're betting on a company, you're actually betting on two things - fundamental performance of the business + discount rate to discount the future cash flows of the business (34:45) Investing in early stage companies and trading interest rate futures (41:52) Are everyday investors competing with hedge funds in any meaningful sets? (50:20) What is the business of a hedge fund fundamentally? (58:52) How true is the peak pot thesis? (1:06:57) Unique things about working at a hedge fund (1:15:30) Wrap  

This week, Byrne Hobart and Erik Torenberg discuss the resurgence of prediction markets, the balance of sophisticated vs. 'dumb' money, Biden's nomination odds and the impact of AI on software economics. 🔥Apply to join over 400 founders and execs in the Turpentine Network: https://hmplogxqz0y.typeform.com/to/JCkphVqj --- SPONSORS: BABBEL: 🌐 Ready to achieve your 2024 goals? Start learning a new language with Babbel in just three weeks. Enjoy app lessons, live classes, and podcasts designed for real-world conversations. Get up to 60% off at https://babbel.com/torenberg BEEHIIV: Head to beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝 Head to https://beehiiv.com and use code "MOZ" for 20% off your first three months --- RECOMMENDED PODCASTS: 🎙️1 to 100 | Hypergrowth Companies Worth Joining Every week we sit down with the founder of a hyper-growth company you should consider joining. Our goal is to give you the inside story behind breakout, early stage companies potentially worth betting your career on. This season, discover how the founders of Modal Labs, Clay, Mercor, and more built their products, cultures, and companies. Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/70NOWtWDY995C8qDqojxGw Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/id1762756034 - 📈 ECON 102 W/ NOAH SMITH Keeping econ entertaining - Noahpinion author Noah Smith and Erik Torenberg break down business news and politics every week. Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3Mos4VE3figVXleHDqfXOH Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/id1753399812https://podcasts.apple.com/id1753399812 --- TIMESTAMPS: (00:00) Intro (00:20) Is this the Polymarket election? (08:55) Prediction markets (11:07) Politics and prediction markets (15:13) Sponsors: Babbel | Beehiiv (17:48) CrowdStrike and the cost of software failures (23:39) AI adoption and workplace dynamics (27:29) Financial systems post-Great Financial Crisis (35:02) USSR's computer network for economic planning (40:01) Best performing stock of the last 100 years (43:22) AI's impact on software and hardware economics (48:46) Market cycles and political influence (51:11) Dot-com crash, Y2K, and the housing bubble (54:28) Stripe and the future of private companies (59:12) Venture capital vs. Private equity returns (01:00:49) Outro --- LINKS: Byrne’s writing: https://thediff.co --- X / TWITTER: https://twitter.com/eriktorenberg (Erik) https://twitter.com/ByrneHobart (Byrne) https://twitter.com/TurpentineMedia (Turpentine)

This week, Erik Torenberg and Byrne Hobart discuss AI's economic implications, the rise of passive investing, gambling markets, and Warren Buffett's early investment tactics, examining how technological advancements shape economic metrics, market dynamics, and industry shifts. --- 🙏 Help shape our show by taking our quick listener survey at https://bit.ly/TurpentinePulse. --- Highlights from the Episode: AI's economic impact may follow a J-curve pattern - initially deflationary as it reduces costs, but potentially inflationary later through increased monetization and energy consumption Passive investing's dominance has natural limits, as price discovery requires active trading, suggesting a possible future cyclical pattern between passive and active investing The gambling industry's evolution may parallel historical vice industries, potentially leading to new social norms and self-regulation before government intervention --- SPONSORS: 📑 Discover Carta, the innovative end-to-end accounting platform revolutionizing private fund management with streamlined operations and on-demand insights. Experience the new standard at https://carta.com/investors/ --- LINKS: Byrne’s writing: https://thediff.co --- X / TWITTER: https://twitter.com/ByrneHobart (Byrne) https://twitter.com/TurpentineMedia (Turpentine)

This week, Byrne Hobart and Erik Torenberg are joined by Omar Shams, the founder of Mutable AI, for a deep dive into Omar’s great piece, The AI Organization. In this conversation, they explore the potential of AI to transform organizational productivity, the limitations of financial metrics in GDP, and AI's role in political processes and societal structures. 🔥Apply to join over 400 founders and execs in the Turpentine Network: https://hmplogxqz0y.typeform.com/to/JCkphVqj --- RECOMMENDED PODCASTS: 🎙️ This Won't Last - Eavesdrop on Keith Rabois, Kevin Ryan, Logan Bartlett, and Zach Weinberg's monthly backchannel. They unpack their hottest takes on the future of tech, business, venture, investing, and politics. Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1765665937 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2HwSNeVLL1MXy0RjFPyOSz YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ThisWontLastpodcast --- SPONSORS: BABBEL: 🌐 Ready to achieve your 2024 goals? Start learning a new language with Babbel in just three weeks. Enjoy app lessons, live classes, and podcasts designed for real-world conversations. Get up to 60% off at https://babbel.com/torenberg BRAVE: Get first-party targeting with Brave’s private ad platform: cookieless and future proof ad formats for all your business needs. Performance meets privacy. Head to https://brave.com/brave-ads/ and mention “Turpentine” when signing up for a 25% discount on your first campaign. --- LINKS: Byrne’s writing: https://thediff.co The AI Organization, part I: https://blog.mutable.ai/p/the-ai-organization-part-i The First Org Chart Ever Made Is a Masterpiece of Data Design: https://www.wired.com/2014/03/stunningly-complex-organization-chart-19th-century/ --- X / TWITTER: https://x.com/smahsramo (Omar) https://twitter.com/ByrneHobart (Byrne) https://twitter.com/TurpentineMedia (Turpentine) --- TIMESTAMPS: (00:00) Intro (00:20) Historical context of technological adoption (02:40) The AI Organization (06:10) Economic theories and AI (11:55) Capitalism vs. Communism (16:00) Sponsor: Babbel | Brave (17:28) Role of AI in future economies (18:51) AI's impact on company sizes (24:10) AI and political influence (29:50) Effect of AI on legal services (31:55) Complexity of GDP and human preferences (41:57) Future of Work and AI Integration (54:24) AI adoption in various sectors (01:03:56) Outro

In our second episode of The Riff, Byrne Hobart and Erik Torenberg discuss the role and influence of companies like OpenAI, AI investment opportunities, the whitespace in the future of social media models, and turning cloud networks into real communities. The Riff is a part of the Turpentine podcast network. Learn more: turpentine.co - We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com. RECOMMENDED PODCAST: LIVE PLAYERS Join host Samo Burja and Erik Torenberg as they analyze the mindsets of today’s most intriguing business leaders, investors, and innovators through the lens of their bold actions and contrarian worldviews. You’ll come away with a deeper understanding of the development of technology, business, political power, culture and more. LIsten and subscribe everywhere you get your podcasts: https://link.chtbl.com/liveplayers. Thanks to our sponsor: Secureframe Secureframe: the only compliance automation platform with AI capabilities that help customers speed up cloud remediation and security questionnaires. Get 20% off your first year of Secureframe by mentioning "The Riff" during your free demo: https://secureframe.com/offer/riff -- LINKS: Byrne's writing: https://thediff.co -- X / TWITTER: @eriktorenberg @byrnehobart -- TIMESTAMPS: (00:00) Intro (00:21) Byrne’s reaction to OpenAI’s new developments (04:30) Where exactly will AI be incorporated? (08:58) Byrne's thoughts on opportunities in AI and where he place his bets on? (15:48) Sponsor: Secureframe (16:50) On reputation data sets (18:58) If Byrne was in between things, what is the space that's currently underrated? (29:36) Elon and Twitter: On reforming institutions (35:07) Are we going to have a paradigm shift on social? (40:05) Media and monetization: what is the best monetization to capture value? (49:21) Byrne's thoughts on the best vehicle for investing (56:42) Wrap

On this week’s episode of The Riff, explore the impact of technological change on markets and businesses, discussing economic bubbles, the future of AI, the post-election political landscape, and Byrne's upcoming book Boom, which examines the role of bubbles in infrastructure development. For full shownotes, visit: https://highlightai.com/share/44975e08-681b-484a-9f8f-64588f17da2f — 🙏 Help shape our show by taking our quick listener survey at https://bit.ly/TurpentinePulse. — RECOMMENDED PODCAST: 🎙️ Unpack Pricing - Dive into the dark arts of SaaS pricing with Metronome CEO Scott Woody and tech leaders. Learn how strategic pricing drives explosive revenue growth in today's biggest companies like Snowflake, Cockroach Labs, Dropbox and more. Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1765716600 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/38DK3W1Fq1xxQalhDSueFg --- SPONSORS: 📑 Discover Carta, the innovative end-to-end accounting platform revolutionizing private fund management with streamlined operations and on-demand insights. Experience the new standard at https://carta.com/investors/ --- LINKS: Byrne’s writing: https://thediff.co Byrne's book: https://www.amazon.com/Boom-Bubbles-Stagnation-Byrne-Hobart/dp/1953953476 --- X / TWITTER: https://twitter.com/ByrneHobart (Byrne) https://twitter.com/TurpentineMedia (Turpentine)

On this week's episode of The Riff, Erik and Byrne discuss income sharing agreements, the privacy/security/usability efficient frontier, and how Meta ended up with all their GPUs. Get Harmonic: Head to https://bit.ly/harmonicturpentine and make sure to mention Turpentine during your demo. --- This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at erik@turpentine.co. --- SPONSORS: Harmonic | BeeHiiv Harmonic: Learn why Craft, Bedrock, NEA and 100s more trust Harmonic’s data to source deals. Harmonic is the most complete startup database, finding new companies as soon as they incorporate and tracking them through IPO. Head to https://bit.ly/harmonicturpentine and make sure to mention Turpentine during your demo. BeeHiiv: Head to Beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝 Head to https://Beehiiv.com and use code "MOZ" for 20% off your first three months --- RECOMMENDED PODCAST: Autopilot explores the adoption and rollout of AI in the industries that drive the economy and the dynamic founders bringing rapid change to slow-moving industries. From law, to hardware, to aviation, Will Summerlin interviews founders backed by Benchmark, Greylock, and more to learn how they're automating at the frontiers in entrenched industries. Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6YQZkKHN7EP2yWedAvSxBC?si=18377c69a2804333 Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/autopilot-with-will-summerlin/id1738163836 --- TIMESTAMPS: (00:00) Intro (00:26) Exploring Income Share Agreements and Lambda School (08:01) The Controversy and Potential of Lambda School (18:46) Sponsor: Harmonic | Beehiiv (21:17) The Bear Case on Income Share Agreements (24:31) Barriers and Threats of Selling New Financial Products (29:51) Innovative Financial Models and Crypto's Role (30:50) Exploring Personal Prediction Markets and Startups (32:51) The Impact of AI on Content Creation and Social Interactions (35:54) Navigating the Continuum of Human and AI Interaction (38:59) Meta's Strategic Shift Towards Generative AI (48:02) The Evolution of Privacy, Security, and Usability in Tech (52:21) Debunking Myths Around Index Funds (1:01:58) Adapting Investment Strategies in an Efficient Market (1:03:40) Wrap --- LINKS: Byrne’s writing: https://thediff.co Erik’s post on income sharing agreements: https://eriktorenberg.substack.com/p/life-capital --- X / TWITTER: https://twitter.com/eriktorenberg (Erik) https://twitter.com/ByrneHobart (Byrne) https://twitter.com/TurpentineMedia (Turpentine) --- For guest or sponsorship inquiries please contact Sam@turpentine.co

On this week's episode of The Riff, Erik and Byrne discuss the acquisition landscape, how to write great business memos, and why it's hard to monetize a successful ChatGPT wrapper. Get Harmonic: Head to https://bit.ly/harmonicturpentine and make sure to mention Turpentine during your demo. --- This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at erik@turpentine.co. --- SPONSOR: Harmonic Learn why Craft, Bedrock, NEA and 100s more trust Harmonic’s data to source deals. Harmonic is the most complete startup database, finding new companies as soon as they incorporate and tracking them through IPO. Head to https://bit.ly/harmonicturpentine and make sure to mention Turpentine during your demo. --- RECOMMENDED PODCAST: Autopilot explores the adoption and rollout of AI in the industries that drive the economy and the dynamic founders bringing rapid change to slow-moving industries. From law, to hardware, to aviation, Will Summerlin interviews founders backed by Benchmark, Greylock, and more to learn how they're automating at the frontiers in entrenched industries. Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6YQZkKHN7EP2yWedAvSxBC?si=18377c69a2804333 Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/autopilot-with-will-summerlin/id1738163836 --- Timestamps: (00:00) Intro (00:20) Negative reputation of acquisitive companies (11:50) Sponsors: Harmonic | Turpentine (13:39) Importance of research and its competitive edge (21:37) Exploring the dynamics of unions and corporate strategies (26:11) How to write a great memo (32:49) Challenge of monetizing AI services (37:49) AI's impact on education and standardized testing (43:44) Evolution and future of Ghost Kitchens (52:19) Lessons from '50 Years in Wall Street' (56:53) Insights from Managing a Sovereign Wealth Fund (1:00:00) Wrap --- Byrne’s writing: https://thediff.co --- X / TWITTER: https://twitter.com/eriktorenberg (Erik) https://twitter.com/ByrneHobart (Byrne) https://twitter.com/TurpentineMedia (Turpentine) --- For guest or sponsorship inquiries please contact Sam@turpentine.co

On this week's episode of The Riff, Erik and Byrne discuss AI & education, Stripe's shift towards unbundling, and the possibility of 24 hour markets. Get Harmonic: Head to https://bit.ly/harmonicturpentine and make sure to mention Turpentine during your demo. --- This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at erik@turpentine.co. --- SPONSORS: Harmonic | beehiiv Harmonic: Learn why Craft, Bedrock, NEA and 100s more trust Harmonic’s data to source deals. Harmonic is the most complete startup database, finding new companies as soon as they incorporate and tracking them through IPO. Head to https://bit.ly/harmonicturpentine and make sure to mention Turpentine during your demo. beehiiv: Head to beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝 Head to https://beehiiv.com and use code "MOZ" for 20% off your first three months --- RECOMMENDED PODCAST: Autopilot explores the adoption and rollout of AI in the industries that drive the economy and the dynamic founders bringing rapid change to slow-moving industries. From law, to hardware, to aviation, Will Summerlin interviews founders backed by Benchmark, Greylock, and more to learn how they're automating at the frontiers in entrenched industries. Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6YQZkKHN7EP2yWedAvSxBC?si=18377c69a2804333 Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/autopilot-with-will-summerlin/id1738163836 --- LINKS: Byrne’s writing: https://thediff.co --- X / TWITTER: https://twitter.com/eriktorenberg (Erik) https://twitter.com/ByrneHobart (Byrne) https://twitter.com/TurpentineMedia (Turpentine) --- For guest or sponsorship inquiries please contact Sam@turpentine.co

This week, Byrne Hobart and Erik Torenberg dive into a range of fascinating topics such as the evolution and future of OpenAI's business model, economic rationale behind corporate buybacks, changing software economics, China's recent equity market surge and more. 🔥 Apply to join over 400 Founders and execs in the Turpentine Network: https://www.turpentinenetwork.co/ --- RECOMMENDED PODCASTS: 🎙️ This Won't Last - Eavesdrop on Keith Rabois, Kevin Ryan, Logan Bartlett, and Zach Weinberg's monthly backchannel. They unpack their hottest takes on the future of tech, business, venture, investing, and politics. Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1765665937 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2HwSNeVLL1MXy0RjFPyOSz YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ThisWontLastpodcast --- SPONSORS: BRAVE: Get first-party targeting with Brave’s private ad platform: cookieless and future proof ad formats for all your business needs. Performance meets privacy. Head to https://brave.com/brave-ads/ and mention “Turpentine” when signing up for a 25% discount on your first campaign. --- LINKS: Byrne’s writing: https://thediff.co --- X / TWITTER: https://twitter.com/ByrneHobart (Byrne) https://twitter.com/TurpentineMedia (Turpentine) --- TIMESTAMPS: (00:00) Intro (00:20) Role of competition in tech (03:57) ByteDance and the music streaming market (08:15) OpenAI's business model evolution (19:05) Sponsor: Brave (20:07) Future of OpenAI and AI regulation (27:56) Understanding interest rates and treasury bonds (30:58) Corporate buybacks (37:05) Software economics and growth strategies (45:38) China's economic strategies and market impact (50:49) Predicting market movements with headlines (54:15) Wrap

This week, Byrne Hobart and Erik Torenberg discuss a lesser-known Chamath Palihapitiya story, the index rebalancing trade as a postmodern part of finance, AI labs, crypto, and more. beehiiv: Head to https://beehiiv.com and use code "MOZ" for 20% off your first three months. Byrne Hobart is hiring an associate! Check out the JD here: https://www.thediff.co/jobs/ 🔥 Apply to join over 400 founders and execs in the Turpentine Network: https://hmplogxqz0y.typeform.com/to/JCkphVqj --- SPONSORS: BABBEL: 🌐 Ready to achieve your 2024 goals? Start learning a new language with Babbel in just three weeks. Enjoy app lessons, live classes, and podcasts designed for real-world conversations. Get up to 60% off at https://babbel.com/torenberg BEEHIIV: Head to beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝 Head to https://beehiiv.com and use code "MOZ" for 20% off your first three months --- RECOMMENDED PODCAST: 🎙️ Second Opinion - A new podcast for health-tech insiders from Christina Farr of the Second Opinion newsletter. Join Christina Farr, Luba Greenwood, and Ash Zenooz every week as they challenge industry experts with tough questions about the best bets in health-tech. Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1759267211 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0A8NwQE976s32zdBbZw6bv - 📈 ECON 102 W/ NOAH SMITH - Keeping econ entertaining - Noahpinion author Noah Smith and Erik Torenberg break down business news and politics every week. Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3Mos4VE3figVXleHDqfXOH Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/id1753399812https://podcasts.apple.com/id1753399812 --- TIMESTAMPS: (00:00:00) About the Show (00:00:20) Chamath, IAC, and Tinder (00:16:20) Sponsors: Babbel | Beehiiv (00:18:54) Chamath continued (00:18:54) Twitter, Threads (00:22:40) Twitter, Twitch (00:24:12) Twitter, API (00:28:37) Meme coins (00:32:10) The postmodernity of index rebalancing trades (00:35:37) S&P 500 inclusion and exclusion (00:40:52) Crypto, AI, and the Zeitgeist (00:42:14) Crypto (00:46:55) AI Labs (00:49:35) Why is it money intensive and talent intensive? (00:53:59) What should people study in college? (00:59:24) Byrne is hiring an associate! (01:02:13) Outro --- LINKS: Byrne’s writing: https://thediff.co --- X / TWITTER: https://twitter.com/eriktorenberg (Erik) https://twitter.com/ByrneHobart (Byrne) https://twitter.com/TurpentineMedia (Turpentine)

On this week's episode of The Riff, Erik and Byrne discuss populist cycles, why billionaires buy media companies, how to invest if you think AGI is coming soon, and more. beehiiv: Head to https://beehiiv.com and use code "MOZ" for 20% off your first three months. 🔥 Apply to join over 400 founders and Execs in the Turpentine Network: https://hmplogxqz0y.typeform.com/to/JCkphVqj --- This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at erik@turpentine.co. --- SPONSORS: BABBEL: 🌐 Ready to achieve your 2024 goals? Start learning a new language with Babbel in just three weeks. Enjoy app lessons, live classes, and podcasts designed for real-world conversations. Get up to 60% off at babbel.com/zen BEEHIIV: Head to beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝 Head to https://beehiiv.com and use code "MOZ" for 20% off your first three months --- RECOMMENDED PODCAST: Patrick McKenzie (@patio11) talks to experts who understand the complicated but not unknowable systems we rely on. You might be surprised at how quickly Patrick and his guests can put you in the top 1% of understanding for stock trading, tech hiring, and more. Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3Mos4VE3figVXleHDqfXOH Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/id1753399812https://podcasts.apple.com/id1753399812 - 📈 ECON 102 W/ NOAH SMITH - Keeping econ entertaining - Noahpinion author Noah Smith and Erik Torenberg break down business news and politics every week. Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3Mos4VE3figVXleHDqfXOH Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/id1753399812https://podcasts.apple.com/id1753399812 --- TIMESTAMPS: (00:00) Intro (00:21) Populists vs technocrats (07:37) Role of media and influence (14:02) View on counter elites (15:41) Sponsor: Babbel | Beehiiv (18:51) Israel on PR war (22:59) On Big Tech Has No Power At All by Curtis Yarvin (26:42) Elon Musk’s Twitter takeover (30:14) Comparing media ownership: Bezos vs. Musk (38:42) Leopold Aschenbrenner’s situational awareness paper (44:26) Investing strategies in the age of AGI (46:38) Role of Venture Capital (50:05) High frequency trading explained (53:42) Prediction markets and information transmission (54:26) Wrap --- LINKS: Byrne’s writing: https://thediff.co --- X / TWITTER: https://twitter.com/eriktorenberg (Erik) https://twitter.com/ByrneHobart (Byrne) https://twitter.com/TurpentineMedia (Turpentine) --- For guest or sponsorship inquiries please contact Sam@turpentine.co

On this week's episode of The Riff, Erik and Byrne discuss Austin real estate, why Duolingo has remained strong post-pandemic, and how to identify spurious correlations during data analysis. --- This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at erik@turpentine.co. --- SPONSOR: BRAVE Get first-party targeting with Brave's private ad platform: cookieless and future proof ad formats for all your business needs. Performance meets privacy. Head to https://brave.com/brave-ads/ and mention “MoZ” when signing up for a 25% discount on your first campaign. --- LINKS: Byrne’s writing: thediff.co --- X / TWITTER: @eriktorenberg (Erik) @byrnehobart (Byrne) @turpentinemedia (Turpentine) --- Timestamps: (00:00) Intro (00:20) Generative AI and Its Impact on Platforms (04:44) The Future of Personalized Media Consumption (08:27) The Evolution of Media Distribution and Content Creation (14:36) Austin's Housing Market (28:54) Identifying False Positives in Data-Driven Decision Making (37:32) Apple's Antitrust Case (50:51) Why Duolingo Hasn’t Crashed (57:25) The Reddit IPO (1:03:03) Wrap --- For guest or sponsorship inquiries please contact Sam@turpentine.co

On this week's episode of The Riff, Erik and Byrne discuss pivots in hard tech, cybersecurity and privacy, and the considerations in how often to enforce the law. For listeners watching the video, please note that Erik’s video recording dropped out towards the end of the episode. We hope you enjoy the conversation nonetheless. --- This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at erik@turpentine.co. --- RECOMMENDED PODCAST: Autopilot explores the adoption and rollout of AI in the industries that drive the economy and the dynamic founders bringing rapid change to slow-moving industries. From law, to hardware, to aviation, Will Summerlin interviews founders backed by Benchmark, Greylock, and more to learn how they're automating at the frontiers in entrenched industries. Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6YQZkKHN7EP2yWedAvSxBC?si=18377c69a2804333 Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/autopilot-with-will-summerlin/id1738163836 --- Timestamps: (00:00) Intro (00:29) Hard tech pivots (04:55) Software changes the shape of innovation (08:19) Open source and closed source security models (16:14) AI regulation predictions (18:34) Google's AI monetization (24:24) Why did tech hedge funds invest in a potato company? (28:07) Good customer service is a negative signal for a country’s economic status (34:48) The data business at three resolutions (41:31) Crime prevention and surveillance (44:57) Should we fully enforce the law? (53:49) Wrap --- LINKS: Byrne’s writing: thediff.co --- X / TWITTER: @eriktorenberg (Erik) @byrnehobart (Byrne) @turpentinemedia (Turpentine) --- For guest or sponsorship inquiries please contact Sam@turpentine.co

On this week's episode of The Riff, Erik and Byrne do a deep dive on the history of media, how technology is impacting the media landscape, and how to build the next media empire. The Riff is sponsored by Shopify: https://shopify.com/momentofzen for a $1/month trial period. --- The Riff is a part of the Turpentine podcast network. Learn more: https://turpentine.co --- Check out Erik's new show Request for Startups featuring a rotating cast of founders and investors sharing their requests for startups they want to exist in the world, and also their stories of navigating the idea maze in different sectors so founders don’t have to reinvent the wheel anymore. The first episode is out now - we cover better dating apps, references as a service, and WeWork for productivity Watch and Subscribe on Substack: https://requestforstartups.substack.com/p/receipt-based-dating-reference-checks Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/request-for-startups-with-erik-torenberg/id1728659822 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/739L1LR32QI2XyoZlRh5nv --- We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com. --- Thanks to our sponsor: SHOPIFY Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of all e-commerce in the US. And Shopify’s the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy’s, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries. From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you’re selling, Shopify’s got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/momentofzen --- LINKS: Byrne's writing: https://thediff.co --- X / TWITTER: @eriktorenberg (Erik) @byrnehobart (Byrne) @turpentinemedia (Turpentine) --- TIMESTAMPS (00:00) Intro (00:40) How media was a great business and what changed (12:54) How media fortunes are made (18:22) When content becomes valuable again - BuzzFeed versus the New York Times (20:09) Streaming distribution - Netflix's current evolution (24:27) The decline in the level of journalism layoffs and why AI has something to do with it (29:18) Sponsor | Shopify (31:20) If you want to do investigative reporting, you need to like billionaires (36:22) On Byrne's approach to building a media empire (49:10) Why tech journalism struggled in the last decade (52:22) Reconciling history and the changing nature of fame (57:31) The business cadence case against every company is a tech company (1:04:57) Wrap --- The Riff is a production from Turpentine Producer: Sam Kaufman Editor: Seven Morris For guest or sponsorship inquiries please contact Sam@turpentine.co

This week, Byrne and Erik discuss the efficiency of market hypothesis, explores the complexities of breaking up big tech companies, unpacks the intriguing dynamics of currencies from nations to video game gems and more. 🔥 Apply to join over 400 Founders and execs in the Turpentine Network: https://www.turpentinenetwork.co/ --- RECOMMENDED PODCASTS: 🎙️ This Won't Last - Eavesdrop on Keith Rabois, Kevin Ryan, Logan Bartlett, and Zach Weinberg's monthly backchannel. They unpack their hottest takes on the future of tech, business, venture, investing, and politics. Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1765665937 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2HwSNeVLL1MXy0RjFPyOSz YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ThisWontLastpodcast --- SPONSORS: BABBEL: 🌐 Ready to achieve your 2024 goals? Start learning a new language with Babbel in just three weeks. Enjoy app lessons, live classes, and podcasts designed for real-world conversations. Get up to 60% off at babbel.com/zen BRAVE: Get first-party targeting with Brave’s private ad platform: cookieless and future proof ad formats for all your business needs. Performance meets privacy. Head to https://brave.com/brave-ads/ and mention “Turpentine” when signing up for a 25% discount on your first campaign. --- LINKS: Byrne’s writing: https://thediff.co Big Tech as a Fleet Rather than an Aircraft Carrier: https://www.thediff.co/archive/big-tech-as-a-fleet-rather-than-an-aircraft-carrier/ --- X / TWITTER: https://twitter.com/ByrneHobart (Byrne) https://twitter.com/TurpentineMedia (Turpentine) --- TIMESTAMPS: (00:00) Intro (00:20) Market efficiency (02:33) Big tech's strategic investments (12:11) Efficient market hypothesis (16:52) Big tech as a fleet (27:16) Sponsors: Babbel | Brave (29:42) Role and impact of currencies (39:03) Concept of personal tokens (43:17) Diversification vs. Concentration in investments (50:09) Pod model in hedge funds (54:25) Wrap

On this week's episode of The Riff, Erik and Byrne sit down with Brad Hargreaves, founder of General Assembly and Common and editor at real estate publication Thesis Driven. They do a deep dive on everything real estate, from investing to housing policy to urbanism. The Riff is sponsored by Brave. Head to https://brave.com/brave-ads/ and mention “MoZ” when signing up for a 25% discount on your first campaign. --- The Riff is a part of the Turpentine podcast network. Learn more: turpentine.co --- Check out Brad's new podcast Leader Series where he interviews the leading voices at the intersection of real estate, cities, innovation and technology. Guests include innovators like Zillow founder Spencer Rascoff, the renowned East Coast developer MaryAnne Gilmartin, AOL founder and real estate visionary Steve Case and many more top change makers in real estate. Leader Series is part of the Turpentine podcast network. Substack Apple Spotify --- We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com. --- SPONSOR: BRAVE Get first-party targeting with Brave's private ad platform: cookieless and future proof ad formats for all your business needs. Performance meets privacy. Head to https://brave.com/brave-ads/ and mention “MoZ” when signing up for a 25% discount on your first campaign. --- LINKS: Byrne Hobart ‘s writing: thediff.coSubscribe to  Brad Hargreaves Thesis Driven on Substack--- X / TWITTER: @eriktorenberg (Erik) @byrnehobart (Byrne) @turpentinemedia (Turpentine) --- TIMESTAMPS (00:00) Intro (00:31) Brad's Journey in Real Estate and Technology (05:37) The Mechanics of Real Estate Investing (14:42) Sponsor | Brave (15:43) Comparing Tech and Real Estate (20:38) Trendy Asset Class Valuations (25:35) Distressed Real Estate Categories (33:14) Office to Residential Conversions (36:38) The Future of the Business-Centric Downtown (39:37) Housing Policy (52:35) Real Estate Brands (56:32) Wrap --- The Riff is a production from Turpentine Producer: Sam Kaufman Editor: Seven Morris For guest or sponsorship inquiries please contact Sam@turpentine.co

Byrne and Erik discuss company valuations, short selling, company earnings guidance, market predictions, and the behavior of companies and investors in financial markets. --- The Riff is a part of the Turpentine podcast network. Learn more: https://turpentine.co --- Check out Erik's new show  Request for Startups featuring a rotating cast of founders and investors sharing their requests for startups they want to exist in the world, and also their stories of navigating the idea maze in different sectors so founders don’t have to reinvent the wheel anymore.Watch and Subscribe on Substack:  Request for Startups--- Thanks to our sponsor: BRAVE Get first-party targeting with Brave's private ad platform: cookieless and future proof ad formats for all your business needs. Performance meets privacy. Head to https://brave.com/brave-ads/ and mention “MoZ” when signing up for a 25% discount on your first campaign. --- LINKS: Byrne’s writing: thediff.co --- X / TWITTER: @eriktorenberg (Erik) @byrnehobart (Byrne) @turpentinemedia (Turpentine) --- TIMESTAMPS: (00:00) Intro (00:44) Understanding Mispricing in Public Companies (03:28) Case Study: Boeing's Business Value 06:29 The Role of Professional and Retail Investors (12:07) Why Some Investors Matter More Than Others (18:49) Sponsor: Brave (19:51) Unpacking Risk in Investment (25:42) Gold and Bitcoin in Investment (28:54) On Yield, Buybacks, and Dividends (39:11) Short Selling in Financial Markets (51:15) Earnings Guidance and Corporate Communication (56:17) Wrap

In our 4th episode of The Riff, Byrne Hobart and Erik Torenberg discuss the complex interplay of technology, economic growth, demographics and investment decisions and the socio-technological implications of dating apps on society. They also debate the impact of political leaders' policies on capital markets, focusing specifically on the comparison of Xi Jinping's and Trump's stances and their tangible effects. Need Soc 2 compliance? Get 20% off your first year of Secureframe by mentioning "The Riff" during your free demo: https://secureframe.com/riff --- Check out Erik's new show Request for Startups featuring a rotating cast of founders and investors sharing their requests for startups they want to exist in the world, and also their stories of navigating the idea maze in different sectors so founders don’t have to reinvent the wheel anymore. The first episode is out now - we cover better dating apps, references as a service, and WeWork for productivity Watch and Subscribe on Substack: https://requestforstartups.substack.com/p/receipt-based-dating-reference-checks Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/request-for-startups-with-erik-torenberg/id1728659822 Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/739L1LR32QI2XyoZlRh5nv --- We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com. --- The Riff is a part of the Turpentine podcast network. Learn more: turpentine.co --- RECOMMENDED PODCAST: LIVE PLAYERS Join host Samo Burja and Erik Torenberg as they analyze the mindsets of today’s most intriguing business leaders, investors, and innovators through the lens of their bold actions and contrarian worldviews. You’ll come away with a deeper understanding of the development of technology, business, political power, culture and more. LIsten and subscribe everywhere you get your podcasts: https://link.chtbl.com/liveplayers. --- Thanks to our sponsor: SECUREFRAME Secureframe: the only compliance automation platform with AI capabilities that help customers speed up cloud remediation and security questionnaires. Get 20% off your first year of Secureframe by mentioning "The Riff" during your free demo: https://secureframe.com/riff --- LINKS: Byrne's writing: https://thediff.co --- X / TWITTER: @eriktorenberg @byrnehobart --- TIMESTAMPS: (00:00) Episode Preview  (00:28) The Capital Gains edition (04:57) The Role of Demographics in Investment (05:32) The Influence of Macro Factors (06:43) The Impact of Globalization (13:40) The Effect of Aging Society on Economy (17:50) The Influence of Politics on Economy (18:00) Sponsor: Secureframe (23:45) Discussing the Upcoming Election (27:12) The Impact of Immigration Policies (31:49) The Importance of Accounting in Government (33:41) The Cold War and Its Impact on Global Economics (35:15) The Role of Institutions in Economic Outcomes (35:48) The Influence of Geography on Economic Success (36:30) The Impact of Ideology on Economic Growth (37:10) The Role of Talent and Resources in Economic Success (41:04) The Future of China in the Global Economy (47:16) The Influence of Technology on Economic Trends (47:40) The Impact of Demographics on Economic Growth (48:04) The Role of AI in the Future Economy (01:01:07) The Impact of Dating Markets on Fertility Rates (01:03:22) The Future of Dating Sites and Social Norms

This week, Byrne Hobart and Erik Torenberg dive deep into David Graeber's controversial concept of 'Bullshit Jobs,' exploring its validity and impact. They also discuss the future of labor and employment in the era of AI, the intricate dynamics of globalization, and the complexities of corporate governance. 🔥Apply to join over 400 founders and execs in the Turpentine Network: https://hmplogxqz0y.typeform.com/to/JCkphVqj --- SPONSORS: BABBEL: 🌐 Ready to achieve your 2024 goals? Start learning a new language with Babbel in just three weeks. Enjoy app lessons, live classes, and podcasts designed for real-world conversations. Get up to 60% off at https://babbel.com/torenberg BEEHIIV: Head to beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝 Head to https://beehiiv.com and use code "MOZ" for 20% off your first three months --- RECOMMENDED PODCAST: 🎙️ Second Opinion - A new podcast for health-tech insiders from Christina Farr of the Second Opinion newsletter. Join Christina Farr, Luba Greenwood, and Ash Zenooz every week as they challenge industry experts with tough questions about the best bets in health-tech. Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1759267211 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0A8NwQE976s32zdBbZw6bv - 📈 ECON 102 W/ NOAH SMITH - Keeping econ entertaining - Noahpinion author Noah Smith and Erik Torenberg break down business news and politics every week. Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3Mos4VE3figVXleHDqfXOH Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/id1753399812https://podcasts.apple.com/id1753399812 --- TIMESTAMPS: (00:00) Intro (00:20) David Graeber's “Bullshit Jobs” (11:15) Meritocracy and word origins (14:01) Convergent evolution (16:04) Sponsors: Babbel | Beehiiv (18:39) Public intellectuals and broad theories (24:30) Automation and future of work (31:55) Corporate control and voting rights (38:46) Burden of knowledge (45:38) Robert Gordons thesis (52:41) Globalization and resource endowments (01:00:54) Outro --- LINKS: Byrne’s writing: https://thediff.co --- X / TWITTER: https://twitter.com/eriktorenberg (Erik) https://twitter.com/ByrneHobart (Byrne) https://twitter.com/TurpentineMedia (Turpentine)

On this week's episode of The Riff, Erik and Byrne discuss factor netural hedge funds, the trend of Silicon Valley becoming more financially literate, the opportunity cost of features, and more. The Riff is sponsored by Shopify: https://shopify.com/momentofzen for a $1/month trial period. --- The Riff is a part of the Turpentine podcast network. Learn more: https://turpentine.co --- Check out Erik's new show Request for Startups featuring a rotating cast of founders and investors sharing their requests for startups they want to exist in the world, and also their stories of navigating the idea maze in different sectors so founders don’t have to reinvent the wheel anymore. The first episode is out now - we cover better dating apps, references as a service, and WeWork for productivity Watch and Subscribe on Substack: https://requestforstartups.substack.com/p/receipt-based-dating-reference-checks Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/request-for-startups-with-erik-torenberg/id1728659822 Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/739L1LR32QI2XyoZlRh5nv --- We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com. --- Thanks to our sponsor: SHOPIFY Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of all e-commerce in the US. And Shopify’s the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy’s, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries. From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you’re selling, Shopify’s got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/momentofzen --- LINKS: Byrne's writing: https://thediff.co --- X / TWITTER: @eriktorenberg (Erik) @byrnehobart (Byrne) @turpentinemedia (Turpentine) --- TIMESTAMPS (00:00) Introduction to the Riff (00:43) Increasing overlap between tech and finance (08:25) Factor neutral hedge funds (18:00) Sponsor | Shopify (19:30) VC is a compensation scheme masquerading as an asset class (33:30) Understanding generalists (40:07) The opportunity cost of features (45:30) Why grocery stores are like tech companies --- The Riff is a production from Turpentine Producer: Sam Kaufman Editor: Seven Morris For guest or sponsorship inquiries please contact Sam@turpentine.co

On this week's episode of The Riff, Erik and Byrne delve into corporate espionage, algorithmic collusion, and the lifecycle of companies amidst technological changes. --- This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at erik@turpentine.co. --- RECOMMENDED PODCAST: Autopilot explores the adoption and rollout of AI in the industries that drive the economy and the dynamic founders bringing rapid change to slow-moving industries. From law, to hardware, to aviation, Will Summerlin interviews founders backed by Benchmark, Greylock, and more to learn how they're automating at the frontiers in entrenched industries. Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6YQZkKHN7EP2yWedAvSxBC?si=18377c69a2804333 Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/autopilot-with-will-summerlin/id1738163836 --- LINKS: Byrne’s writing: thediff.co --- X / TWITTER: @eriktorenberg (Erik) @byrnehobart (Byrne) @turpentinemedia (Turpentine) --- Timestamps: (00:00) Intro (00:26) Corporate Espionage: The Secret World of Competitive Intelligence (01:30) Facebook's Competitor Analysis (07:15) The Ethical Quandaries of Corporate Spying (15:40) Sponsor: Turpentine (16:29) Outsourcing and the East Asian Economic Boom (22:19) Companies Aging Gracefully in the Business World (25:42) Exploring Business Strategies and Apple's Success (28:56) Evolution of Employment in the AI Era (31:31) AI-Based Coding Tools and Job Creation (33:53) Navigating the Future of Work and AI's Role (39:39) Algorithmic Collusion: A New Frontier in Antitrust (55:29) Wrap --- For guest or sponsorship inquiries please contact Sam@turpentine.co

On this week’s episode of The Riff, Byrne Hobart and Erik Torenberg discuss how the 2024 presidential election has changed, why Wikipedia’s partisanship problem is difficult to solve, and the strategy behind Amazon’s media business. 🔥Apply to join over 400 founders and execs in the Turpentine Network: https://hmplogxqz0y.typeform.com/to/JCkphVqj --- SPONSORS: BABBEL: 🌐 Ready to achieve your 2024 goals? Start learning a new language with Babbel in just three weeks. Enjoy app lessons, live classes, and podcasts designed for real-world conversations. Get up to 60% off at https://babbel.com/torenberg BEEHIIV: Head to beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝 Head to https://beehiiv.com and use code "MOZ" for 20% off your first three months --- RECOMMENDED PODCASTS: 🎙️1 to 100 | Hypergrowth Companies Worth Joining Every week we sit down with the founder of a hyper-growth company you should consider joining. Our goal is to give you the inside story behind breakout, early stage companies potentially worth betting your career on. This season, discover how the founders of Modal Labs, Clay, Mercor, and more built their products, cultures, and companies. Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/70NOWtWDY995C8qDqojxGw Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/id1762756034 - 📈 ECON 102 W/ NOAH SMITH Keeping econ entertaining - Noahpinion author Noah Smith and Erik Torenberg break down business news and politics every week. Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3Mos4VE3figVXleHDqfXOH Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/id1753399812https://podcasts.apple.com/id1753399812 --- TIMESTAMPS: (00:00) Intro (00:20) Case for a boring campaign (01:49) Impact of Assassination Attempts (05:20) Sam Altman OpenAI analogy (06:24) Symbolism in the presidency (10:17) Role of determination in leadership (15:16) Presidents role (18:10) Sponsors: Babbel | Beehiiv (20:45) Vice presidential pick (25:16) Algorithmic collusion in real estate (29:48) David Gerard on Wikipedia (38:23) The 4chan of Crypto (42:14) Stable growth stocks (47:02) Amazon's media business strategy (53:16) Mission-driven vs. Vanity businesses (57:00) Benefits of liquidity in American markets (58:31) Outro --- LINKS: Byrne’s writing: https://thediff.co --- X / TWITTER: https://twitter.com/eriktorenberg (Erik) https://twitter.com/ByrneHobart (Byrne) https://twitter.com/TurpentineMedia (Turpentine)

This week, Byrne Hobart is joined by Patrick McKenzie (patio11), host of the podcast Complex Systems, to discuss the complexity and endless fascination of financial infrastructures, the role of fraud in finance, talent spotting strategies and the importance of building networks. 🔥Apply to join over 400 founders and execs in the Turpentine Network: https://hmplogxqz0y.typeform.com/to/JCkphVqj --- SPONSORS: BABBEL: 🌐 Ready to achieve your 2024 goals? Start learning a new language with Babbel in just three weeks. Enjoy app lessons, live classes, and podcasts designed for real-world conversations. Get up to 60% off at https://babbel.com/torenberg BEEHIIV: Head to beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝 Head to https://beehiiv.com and use code "MOZ" for 20% off your first three months --- RECOMMENDED PODCASTS: 🎙️1 to 100 | Hypergrowth Companies Worth Joining Every week we sit down with the founder of a hyper-growth company you should consider joining. Our goal is to give you the inside story behind breakout, early stage companies potentially worth betting your career on. This season, discover how the founders of Modal Labs, Clay, Mercor, and more built their products, cultures, and companies. Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/70NOWtWDY995C8qDqojxGw Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/id1762756034 - 📈 ECON 102 W/ NOAH SMITH - Keeping econ entertaining - Noahpinion author Noah Smith and Erik Torenberg break down business news and politics every week. Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3Mos4VE3figVXleHDqfXOH Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/id1753399812https://podcasts.apple.com/id1753399812 --- LINKS: Byrne’s writing: https://thediff.co Patrick's Newsletter: https://www.bitsaboutmoney.com/ --- X / TWITTER: https://x.com/patio11 (Patrick) https://twitter.com/ByrneHobart (Byrne) https://twitter.com/TurpentineMedia (Turpentine) --- TIMESTAMPS: (00:00) Intro (00:20) Historical origins of financial products (01:22) Old infrastructure in finance (05:02) Security vs Usability trade-off (10:49) Trust dynamics in finance (11:58) High-trust vs Low-trust environments (15:26) Market dynamics and reputation systems (19:41) Sponsors: Babbel | Beehiiv (22:15) Who's your favorite fraudster? (25:10) Crypto and money laundering (30:31) FTX and money laundering theory (36:59) Collapse of FTX (40:55) Normative Aspects of Trust (46:27) The Starfighter Project (53:33) Value of networking and cold emails (58:00) Managing information flow (01:02:31) Outro

This week, writer Byrne Hobart and investor Erik Torenberg discuss the failed acquisition of Figma by Adobe, a deep dive on antitrust, Byrne's take on higher education and viable alternatives, unions, and more. The Riff is sponsored by Shopify: https://shopify.com/momentofzen for a $1/month trial period. --- The Riff is a part of the Turpentine podcast network. Learn more: https://turpentine.co --- Check out Erik's new show Request for Startups featuring a rotating cast of founders and investors sharing their requests for startups they want to exist in the world, and also their stories of navigating the idea maze in different sectors so founders don’t have to reinvent the wheel anymore. The first episode is out now - we cover better dating apps, references as a service, and WeWork for productivity Watch and Subscribe on Substack: https://requestforstartups.substack.com/p/receipt-based-dating-reference-checks Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/request-for-startups-with-erik-torenberg/id1728659822 Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/739L1LR32QI2XyoZlRh5nv --- We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com. --- Thanks to our sponsor: SHOPIFY Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of all e-commerce in the US. And Shopify’s the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy’s, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries. From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you’re selling, Shopify’s got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/momentofzen --- LINKS: Byrne's writing: https://thediff.co --- X / TWITTER: @eriktorenberg (Erik) @byrnehobart (Byrne) @turpentinemedia (Turpentine) --- TIMESTAMPS: (00:00) Intro (00:24) Figma and Adobe (03:28) Antitrust Perspective on Figma and Adobe (03:41) Understanding Antitrust in Tech (07:49) Role of Big Tech Companies in Antitrust (19:00) Sponsor: Shopify (20:38) Higher Education: A Cartel? (24:15) YC and Disruption in Higher Education (31:07) Funding Higher Education (32:50) Rethinking the Role of Traditional Institutions in Education (33:26) The Potential of Separating Vocational Training and Liberal Arts (33:47) Imagining a Different Approach to Post-High School Education (34:32) The Unpredictability of Career Paths and Interests (35:36) The Case for Subsidizing Knowledge Acquisition (36:35) The Importance of Failing and Learning in Education (37:51) Personal Experience and Reflections on College Education (38:43) The Future of Higher Education for the Next Generation (46:27) The Challenges of Traditional K-12 Education (53:24) The Ideological Monopoly in Universities (53:54) The Impact of Political Ideologies on Education

This week, writer Byrne Hobart and investor Erik Torenberg discuss the economics of conferences and cities, rise of meme stocks, future of coding in the age of AI and more. beehiiv: Head to https://beehiiv.com and use code "MOZ" for 20% off your first three months. 🔥 Apply to join over 400 founders and Execs in the Turpentine Network: https://hmplogxqz0y.typeform.com/to/JCkphVqj --- This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at erik@turpentine.co. --- SPONSORS: BABBEL: 🌐 Ready to achieve your 2024 goals? Start learning a new language with Babbel in just three weeks. Enjoy app lessons, live classes, and podcasts designed for real-world conversations. Get up to 60% off at https://babbel.com/torenberg BEEHIIV: Head to beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝 Head to https://beehiiv.com and use code "MOZ" for 20% off your first three months --- RECOMMENDED PODCAST: Patrick McKenzie (@patio11) talks to experts who understand the complicated but not unknowable systems we rely on. You might be surprised at how quickly Patrick and his guests can put you in the top 1% of understanding for stock trading, tech hiring, and more. Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3Mos4VE3figVXleHDqfXOH Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/complex-systems-with-patrick-mckenzie-patio11/id1753399812 - 📈 ECON 102 W/ NOAH SMITH - Keeping econ entertaining - Noahpinion author Noah Smith and Erik Torenberg break down business news and politics every week. Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3Mos4VE3figVXleHDqfXOH Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/id1753399812https://podcasts.apple.com/id1753399812 --- TIMESTAMPS: (00:00) Intro (00:20) Economics of conferences vs Economics of cities (04:09) Historical and modern city dynamics (06:02) Controversies and discussions at conferences (10:00) Rise of meme stocks and retail investors (17:38) Sponsor: Babbel | Beehiiv (20:10) High volatility in stocks (23:10) Cultural influence of 4chan and Reddit (28:33) Value capture in startups and capital structure (31:30) Exploring self-funding and investment strategies (37:14) Concept of cross-investing in people (45:05) Value of learning to code (50:15) Future of therapy in an AI-driven world (57:56) Impact of AI on engineering jobs (01:00:28) Comparing software and media (01:03:50) Wrap --- LINKS: Byrne’s writing: https://thediff.co --- X / TWITTER: https://twitter.com/eriktorenberg (Erik) https://twitter.com/ByrneHobart (Byrne) https://twitter.com/TurpentineMedia (Turpentine) --- For guest or sponsorship inquiries please contact Sam@turpentine.co

This week, writer Byrne Hobart and investor Erik Torenberg discuss the lessons to be learned from the life of the late Charlie Munger. They explore what made Munger a great investor, how he was different from Warren Buffett, and where to find the next Munger today. --- The Riff is a part of the Turpentine podcast network. Learn more: turpentine.co --- Check out Erik's new show Request for Startups featuring a rotating cast of founders and investors sharing their requests for startups they want to exist in the world, and also their stories of navigating the idea maze in different sectors so founders don’t have to reinvent the wheel anymore. The first episode is out now - we cover better dating apps, references as a service, and WeWork for productivity Watch and Subscribe on Substack: https://requestforstartups.substack.com/p/receipt-based-dating-reference-checks Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/request-for-startups-with-erik-torenberg/id1728659822 Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/739L1LR32QI2XyoZlRh5nv --- We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com. --- Thanks to our sponsor: SECUREFRAME Secureframe: the only compliance automation platform with AI capabilities that help customers speed up cloud remediation and security questionnaires. Get 20% off your first year of Secureframe by mentioning "The Riff" during your free demo: https://secureframe.com/riff --- LINKS: Byrne's writing: https://thediff.co --- RECOMMENDED PODCAST: Live Players With Samo Burja Join host Samo Burja and Erik Torenberg as they analyze the mindsets of today’s most intriguing business leaders, investors, and innovators through the lens of their bold actions and contrarian worldviews. Think: Elon, Sam Altman, Peter Thiel, George Soros and more. You’ll come away with a deeper understanding of the development of technology, business, political power, culture and more. Listen and subscribe everywhere you get your podcasts: https://link.chtbl.com/liveplayers --- X / TWITTER: @eriktorenberg @byrnehobart --- TIMESTIMESTAMPS: (00:00) Intro (01:01) Byrne's reflections on businessman, investor, and philanthropis Charlie Munger (09:33) On countersignaling (15:53) Does Berkshire Hathaway bet against the future? (22:57) What would Munger and Buffett be doing if they were starting their careers today? (28:26) Are there certain market periods where Buffet and Munger would have done worse? (32:38) Sponsor - Secureframe (33:33) Buffett and Soros vs modern quants (42:26) The half life of investing strategies (53:50) AI's impact on social media (1:02:37) Wrap --- The Riff is a production from Turpentine Producer: Sam Kaufman Editor: Seven Morris For guest or sponsorship inquiries please contact Sam@turpentine.co

On this week's episode of The Riff, Erik and Byrne talk about xAI's fundraising round, Vivek Ramaswamy's investment in BuzzFeed, and the dynamics of using ads to monetize AI. beehiiv: Head to https://beehiiv.com and use code "MOZ" for 20% off your first three months. 🔥 Apply to join over 400 founders and Execs in the Turpentine Network: https://hmplogxqz0y.typeform.com/to/JCkphVqj --- This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at erik@turpentine.co. --- SPONSORS: beehiiv Head to beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝 Head to https://beehiiv.com and use code "MOZ" for 20% off your first three months --- RECOMMENDED PODCAST: Autopilot explores the adoption and rollout of AI in the industries that drive the economy and the dynamic founders bringing rapid change to slow-moving industries. From law, to hardware, to aviation, Will Summerlin interviews founders backed by Benchmark, Greylock, and more to learn how they're automating at the frontiers in entrenched industries. Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6YQZkKHN7EP2yWedAvSxBC?si=18377c69a2804333 Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/autopilot-with-will-summerlin/id1738163836 --- Timestamps: (00:00) Intro (00:21) xAI fundraising (12:11) Vivek Ramaswamy's majority stake in BuzzFeed & dynamics of media acquisitions (16:15) Sponsor: beehiiv (30:03) Changes in private equity (35:44) Does AI hurt wordcels or shape rotators? (39:21) Looking at new FTX documents (44:58) Will AI be monetized mostly through ads? (53:04) Against trusting dystopian science fiction stories (57:11) Wrap --- LINKS: Byrne’s writing: https://thediff.co --- X / TWITTER: https://twitter.com/eriktorenberg (Erik) https://twitter.com/ByrneHobart (Byrne) https://twitter.com/TurpentineMedia (Turpentine) --- For guest or sponsorship inquiries please contact Sam@turpentine.co

In this special episode of The Riff, Byrne Hobart is joined by Patrick McKenzie, host of the podcast Complex Systems to discuss a range of topics including app business models, restaurant industry economics, AI's impact on productivity, the evolution of search technologies and more. 🔥 Apply to join over 400 Founders and execs in the Turpentine Network: https://www.turpentinenetwork.co/ --- RECOMMENDED PODCASTS: 🎙️ Complex Systems Patrick McKenzie (@patio11) talks to experts who understand the complicated but not unknowable systems we rely on. You might be surprised at how quickly Patrick and his guests can put you in the top 1% of understanding for stock trading, tech hiring, and more. Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3Mos4VE3figVXleHDqfXOH Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/complex-systems-with-patrick-mckenzie-patio11/id1753399812 🎙️ This Won't Last - Eavesdrop on Keith Rabois, Kevin Ryan, Logan Bartlett, and Zach Weinberg's monthly backchannel. They unpack their hottest takes on the future of tech, business, venture, investing, and politics. Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1765665937 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2HwSNeVLL1MXy0RjFPyOSz YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ThisWontLastpodcast --- SPONSORS: 📑 Discover Carta, the innovative end-to-end accounting platform revolutionizing private fund management with streamlined operations and on-demand insights. Experience the new standard at https://carta.com/investors/ --- LINKS: Byrne’s writing: https://thediff.co --- X / TWITTER: https://twitter.com/ByrneHobart (Byrne) https://twitter.com/TurpentineMedia (Turpentine) https://x.com/patio11 (Patrick) --- TIMESTAMPS: (00:00) Intro (01:08) Economics of free-to-play games (09:45) High spenders and VIP systems (12:13) Misconceptions about industry economics (13:22) Spending patterns (15:46) Airline industry (20:51) Custom software and high-end services (24:17) Sponsor: Carta (25:06) Evolution of restaurant websites (33:57) Role of platforms in restaurant business (41:33) Strategic moves in food distribution (43:53) Restaurant groups and concepts (47:39) Economics of business meals (53:33) Value of free company food (01:03:37) Role of LLMs in research and writing (01:12:04) Future of LLMs and human interaction (01:23:44) Wrap

On this week's episode of The Riff, Erik and Byrne discuss the fertility crisis, how Walmart is a tool of upward mobility, AI as the last interface, and more. The Riff is sponsored by Brave. Head to https://brave.com/brave-ads/ and mention “MoZ” when signing up for a 25% discount on your first campaign. --- The Riff is a part of the Turpentine podcast network. Learn more: turpentine.co --- RECOMMENDED PODCAST: History 102 with WhatifAltHist Every week, creator of WhatifAltHist Rudyard Lynch and Erik Torenberg cover a major topic in history in depth -- in under an hour. This season will cover classical Greece, early America, the Vikings, medieval Islam, ancient China, the fall of the Roman Empire, and more. Subscribe: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/36Kqo3BMMUBGTDo1IEYihm Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/history-102-with-whatifalthists-rudyard-lynch-and/id1730633913 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@History102-qg5oj --- We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com. --- SPONSOR: BRAVE Get first-party targeting with Brave's private ad platform: cookieless and future proof ad formats for all your business needs. Performance meets privacy. Head to https://brave.com/brave-ads/ and mention “MoZ” when signing up for a 25% discount on your first campaign. --- LINKS: Byrne’s writing: thediff.co --- X / TWITTER: @eriktorenberg (Erik) @byrnehobart (Byrne) @turpentinemedia (Turpentine) --- TIMESTAMPS: (00:00) Intro (00:21) Discussion on fertility and economics (04:50) Anti-natalist aspects of monetary and fiscal policy (09:18) Would women having kids mean less GDP? (13:30) Discounted cash flow analysis (18:34) Sponsor - Brave (26:50) Walmart as a tool of upward mobility (34:06) White collar work (36:37) AI as the last interface (42:01) Sam Zemurray, America’s banana king (46:23) Wrap --- The Riff is a production from Turpentine Producer: Sam Kaufman Editor: Seven Morris For guest or sponsorship inquiries please contact Sam@turpentine.co

On this week's episode of The Riff, Erik and Byrne talk about how to apply Costco's business model in other industries, the risky business of Martingale strategies, usage as a potential barrier to AI model development, and more. Get Harmonic: Head to https://bit.ly/harmonicturpentine and make sure to mention Turpentine during your demo. --- This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at erik@turpentine.co. --- SPONSORS: Harmonic | beehiiv Harmonic: Learn why Craft, Bedrock, NEA and 100s more trust Harmonic’s data to source deals. Harmonic is the most complete startup database, finding new companies as soon as they incorporate and tracking them through IPO. Head to https://bit.ly/harmonicturpentine and make sure to mention Turpentine during your demo. beehiiv: Head to beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝 Head to https://beehiiv.com and use code "MOZ" for 20% off your first three months --- RECOMMENDED PODCAST: Autopilot explores the adoption and rollout of AI in the industries that drive the economy and the dynamic founders bringing rapid change to slow-moving industries. From law, to hardware, to aviation, Will Summerlin interviews founders backed by Benchmark, Greylock, and more to learn how they're automating at the frontiers in entrenched industries. Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6YQZkKHN7EP2yWedAvSxBC?si=18377c69a2804333 Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/autopilot-with-will-summerlin/id1738163836 --- LINKS: Byrne’s writing: https://thediff.co --- TIMESTAMPS: (00:00) Intro (00:21) Unpacking the Hunter Book Model: A New Approach to Monetizing News (07:30) Aligning Media and Investing: Conflicts and Confluences of Interest (12:41) Sponsor: Harmonic | Beehiiv (15:09) The Benefits of Public Markets and Short Selling Insights (18:09) Martingale Beliefs and Betting Strategies in Finance (23:31) The Martingale Thesis and Market Making (27:17) Unlocking the Potential of AI with Usage-Based Lock-In (31:45) Exploring the Costco Business Model and Its Applications (37:46) The Case for GDP-Linked Bonds: A Financial Innovation (40:06) Vertical Software Companies Acquiring Operating Companies (44:37) The Intersection of Media and Tech Companies (46:40) Wrap --- X / TWITTER: https://twitter.com/eriktorenberg (Erik) https://twitter.com/ByrneHobart (Byrne) https://twitter.com/TurpentineMedia (Turpentine) --- For guest or sponsorship inquiries please contact Sam@turpentine.co