The Podcasting Guild: Babylon 5 (The Podcasting Guild)
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| 28 Apr 2022 | We'll Always Have REM (Babylon 5: S1 Ep18) | 00:55:27 | |
In this episode, Andrew demonstrates his singing talent as Babylon 4 makes a reappearance! Join us as we review the Babylon 5 episode Babylon Squared in this weeks installment of The Podcasting Guild! Learn more about the cool sciencey stuff we talked about on this weeks episode here! https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/04/higher-w-boson-mass-hints-at-chinks-in-standard-models-armor/ Want to follow along? Check out the preferred viewing order at the link below! https://babylon5.fandom.com/wiki/Ideal_Viewing_Order#Ideal_Intended_Order Send your questions, comments and happy thoughts to thepodcastingguild@gmail.com! Facebook page and Discord channel coming soon? | |||
| 20 Mar 2023 | Centaurs vs. G'Karens: The Hearts Attack! (Babylon 5: S2 Ep9) | 00:52:08 | |
With war breaking out in the Babylon 5 universe, who's side is Andrew going to fall on? Join Eric and Andrew as we take a look at the pivotal Hugo award winning episode The Coming of Shadows! Science News! https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/scientists-have-created-a-new-type-of-ice-180981579/ Show Credits: Host: Eric Host: Andrew Theme Song: DJ Madlon Liked our theme tune?! Check out more of DJ Madlon's work at the link below and support new and local artists! https://linktr.ee/madlon PRODUCTION NOTE As some of you may be aware, as of the end of January 2023 HBO Max has stopped carrying Babylon 5 for streaming so if you'd like to continue to follow along your next best bet will be to watch the series on Amazon Prime or Roku and Tubi. This is not an endorsement of either service just want to make sure fans of the show know where they can easily find it! https://cordcuttersnews.com/remastered-babylon-5-is-coming-to-the-roku-channel-tubi-after-leaving-hbo-max/ Want to follow along? Check out the preferred viewing order at the link below! https://babylon5.fandom.com/wiki/Ideal_Viewing_Order#Ideal_Intended_Order Send your questions, comments and happy thoughts to thepodcastingguild@gmail.com! Facebook page and Discord channel coming soon? | |||
| 23 Nov 2021 | Same Show, Different Format? (Babylon 5: S1 Ep2) | 00:44:49 | |
Here for your AURAL pleasure is the third episode of The Podcasting Guild: Babylon 5! Slightly different format but Andrew keeps struggling with names, so there's your continuity for the purists out there. Join us as we take a closer look at Babylon 5 Season 1 Episode 2, Soul hunter! | |||
| 02 Jan 2022 | Chekov's Bester (Babylon 5: S1 Ep6) | 00:53:13 | |
The innuendo flies as we dig into the Babylon 5 first season episode Mind War! Everyone's favorite Russian helmsman makes his first appearance in the series so join us we dive in! | |||
| 08 Jun 2022 | Orphan Annie Goes To Space! (Babylon 5: S1 Ep21) | 00:46:20 | |
In the penultimate episode of the season, a meddling little orphan telepath kid ruins the carefully laid plans of one of the ambassadors! Join Andrew and Eric as they take another fun look at season one episode Legacies. Science News! https://www.sci-nature.com/2022/05/nasas-1-billion-spacecraft-beams-back.html?fbclid=IwAR0NBEC-fOQgsJp0-ybHxlf0SrisqO7bHsmdo5rqw-V-aBTCm1__8KL83cM https://www.space.com/jupiter-whirling-world-juno-spacecraft-images?fbclid=IwAR1kwDVqiGawskix1apQp7n06kRNk9GWRNIRDtvUIxR-VQRJCl6pwR9orxk&utm_campaign=socialflow Want to follow along? Check out the preferred viewing order at the link below! https://babylon5.fandom.com/wiki/Ideal_Viewing_Order#Ideal_Intended_Order Send your questions, comments and happy thoughts to thepodcastingguild@gmail.com! Facebook page and Discord channel coming soon? | |||
| 14 Mar 2022 | Templars and HR Complaints (Babylon 5: S1 Ep14) | 00:51:32 | |
Join Eric and Andrew we take a dive into the season one episode Grail where we try to figure out exactly how the order of succession works and why Vir hasn't filed an HR complaint against Londo yet. If you want to follow along, check out the preferred viewing order at the link below! https://babylon5.fandom.com/wiki/Ideal_Viewing_Order#Ideal_Intended_Order Send your questions, comments and happy thoughts to thepodcastingguild@gmail.com! Facebook page and Discord channel coming soon? | |||
| 24 Oct 2022 | Ambassador of the Cocoon (Babylon 5: S2 Ep2) | 00:58:56 | |
This week Andrew and I are joined by friend of the pod Vincent as guest host as he makes his first foray into Babylon 5! Will Vincent like the show and what will he make of Delenn's new hairdo? Tune into to find out! Science News! https://www.nasa.gov/specials/artemis/ Show Credits: Host: Eric Host: Andrew Guest Host: Vincent Theme Song: DJ Madlon Liked our new theme tune?! Check out more of DJ Madlon's work at the link below and support new artists! https://linktr.ee/madlon Want to follow along? Check out the preferred viewing order at the link below! https://babylon5.fandom.com/wiki/Ideal_Viewing_Order#Ideal_Intended_Order Send your questions, comments and happy thoughts to thepodcastingguild@gmail.com! Facebook page and Discord channel coming soon? | |||
| 16 Nov 2022 | One Casino Scam To Rule Them All (Babylon 5: S2 Ep3) | 00:46:12 | |
This week Mollari schemes, Vir can't take a drink and Ivonava tries her hand at a little diplomacy which goes about as well as you'd expect. Join us as we take a look at the season 2 Babylon 5 episode The Geometry of Shadows. Also, big collars are back in! Science News! https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-s-dart-mission-hits-asteroid-in-first-ever-planetary-defense-test Show Credits: Host: Eric Host: Andrew Theme Song: DJ Madlon Liked our new theme tune?! Check out more of DJ Madlon's work at the link below and support new artists! https://linktr.ee/madlon Want to follow along? Check out the preferred viewing order at the link below! https://babylon5.fandom.com/wiki/Ideal_Viewing_Order#Ideal_Intended_Order Send your questions, comments and happy thoughts to thepodcastingguild@gmail.com! Facebook page and Discord channel coming soon? | |||
| 21 Dec 2022 | ER Meets Cosmic Horror (Babylon 5: S2 Ep5) | 00:43:15 | |
The A-Team's Dwight Schultz makes a great guest appearance in today's episode of Babylon 5 'The Long Dark'. Join Eric and Andrew as they try to make sense of peoples life choices in another installment of The Podcasting Guild! Science News! https://science.nasa.gov/science-news/artemis-I-mission-highlights Show Credits: Host: Eric Host: Andrew Theme Song: DJ Madlon Liked our new theme tune?! Check out more of DJ Madlon's work at the link below and support new artists! https://linktr.ee/madlon Want to follow along? Check out the preferred viewing order at the link below! https://babylon5.fandom.com/wiki/Ideal_Viewing_Order#Ideal_Intended_Order Send your questions, comments and happy thoughts to thepodcastingguild@gmail.com! Facebook page and Discord channel coming soon? | |||
| 23 Feb 2022 | Ruminations and Large Wrenches (Babylon 5: S1 Ep12) | 00:54:29 | |
This week your friends at The Podcasting Guild take a close look at the season 1 episode By Any Means Necessary and question was that fight scene really necessary? Join us as we delve into what might have been in another fun installment of The Podcasting Guild: Babylon 5 Wanna follow along? Show viewing order is found here: https://babylon5.fandom.com/wiki/Ideal_Viewing_Order#Ideal_Intended_Order Join the conversation! Drop us a line at thepodcastingguild@gmail.com | |||
| 15 Feb 2022 | Babylon Noir (Babylon 5: S1 Ep11) | 00:44:54 | |
Welcome back friends to another fun episode of The Podcasting Guild: Babylon 5! Today we follow Garabaldi as he tries to uncover a plot to frame him and potentially kill the Earth Alliance President in the season one episode Survivors. As reminder for those following along we will be watching By Any Means necessary following this episode, for more on the order we're viewing the series follow the link below: https://babylon5.fandom.com/wiki/Ideal_Viewing_Order#Ideal_Intended_Order We are using the Ideal Intended Order as our viewing guide | |||
| 16 Nov 2021 | Lando or Londo? (Babylon 5: S1 Ep1) | 00:39:18 | |
Is it Lando or Londo and will Andrew get any of these names right? We may be a day late but we've got plenty to cover so join us as we take a look at the premier episode of Babylon 5's first season Midnight on the Firing Line! | |||
| 05 Oct 2022 | Capt. Stepdad, Befriender of Pigs (Babylon 5: S2 Ep1) | 00:39:34 | |
We're back! In today's episode Andrew gets introduced to the new captain but really doesn't want to listen to him for some reason... Tune in and join us as we dive back into Babylon 5! Science News! https://www.space.com/nasa-artemis-1-moon-mission-november-launch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5caQPiRBCAA Liked our new theme tune?! Check out more of DJ Madlon's work at the link below and support new artists! https://linktr.ee/madlon Want to follow along? Check out the preferred viewing order at the link below! https://babylon5.fandom.com/wiki/Ideal_Viewing_Order#Ideal_Intended_Order Send your questions, comments and happy thoughts to thepodcastingguild@gmail.com! Facebook page and Discord channel coming soon? | |||
| 06 Nov 2021 | And so it begins... (Babylon 5: The Gathering) | 01:06:02 | |
The first episode of The Podcasting Guild is live! We don't know what we're doing, but join us anyways as we take a look at the Babylon 5 pilot episode The Gathering. Will Andrew like it?! Will there be a second episode of The Podcasting Guild?! Who knows?! | |||
| 25 Dec 2021 | Relationship Counseling in Spaaacccee (Babylon 5: S1 Ep5) | 01:07:59 | |
In this episode of The Podcasting Guild: Babylon 5 we take a look at The Parliament of Dreams and offer Commander Sinclair some very useful relationship advice! Also we're releasing the Hanukkah episode on Christmas so there's that! | |||
| 08 Jan 2023 | Free Mars & the Zombie Cyborgs That Loved Me (Babylon 5: S2 Ep6) | 00:59:49 | |
Will Talia ever catch a break?! Join us as Andrew and Eric discuss this weeks episode of Babylon 5 A Spider in the Web! Happy New Year to all our friends from the Podcasting Guild! We'll eventually get the timing of these things right... maybe... Science News! https://www.science.org/content/article/historic-explosion-long-sought-fusion-breakthrough https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9uJYk-8w2s Show Credits: Host: Eric Host: Andrew Theme Song: DJ Madlon Liked our new theme tune?! Check out more of DJ Madlon's work at the link below and support new and local artists! https://linktr.ee/madlon Want to follow along? Check out the preferred viewing order at the link below! https://babylon5.fandom.com/wiki/Ideal_Viewing_Order#Ideal_Intended_Order Send your questions, comments and happy thoughts to thepodcastingguild@gmail.com! Facebook page and Discord channel coming soon? | |||
| 22 Jun 2022 | When Things Go Quack In The Night (Babylon 5: S1 Ep22) | 00:54:16 | |
Its the season finale! We made it to the end of the first season of Babylon 5! In this episode of The Podcasting Guild join Andrew and Eric as they take a closer look at the first seasons concluding episode Chrysalis. What's a cat and more importantly what is Delenn turning into?! Science News! https://www.nasa.gov/feature/nasa-readies-rocket-for-artemis-i-wet-dress-rehearsal https://www.nasa.gov/feature/margaret-hamilton-apollo-software-engineer-awarded-presidential-medal-of-freedom Want to follow along? Check out the preferred viewing order at the link below! https://babylon5.fandom.com/wiki/Ideal_Viewing_Order#Ideal_Intended_Order Send your questions, comments and happy thoughts to thepodcastingguild@gmail.com! Facebook page and Discord channel coming soon? | |||
| 24 Jan 2022 | Matrix Beta Testers (Babylon 5: S1 Ep8) | 00:39:47 | |
In this weeks episode of The Podcasting Guild we take a look at the season one episode of Babylon 5 And the Sky Full of Stars. I conveniently forget about Lagrange Points missing a rare opportunity to correct my cohost and confuse characters from Star Trek II with the 70's version of Battlestar Galactica and Andrew doesn't get the names wrong... mostly! Join us for another fun romp through the universe of Babylon 5! | |||
| 03 Mar 2022 | Ahhhh Mr. Morden! (Babylon 5: S1 Ep13) | 00:58:14 | |
On today's installment of The Podcasting Guild: Babylon 5, we take a look at the seminal season 1 episode Signs and Portents! Andrew gets his first introduction to Mr. Morden and is left with some interesting questions... Tune in to find out where things lead because we know what you want... more Babylon 5! Want to follow along? Check out the link below for the intended viewing order https://babylon5.fandom.com/wiki/Ideal_Viewing_Order#Ideal_Intended_Order Questions, comments and feedback go here! thepodcastingguild@gmail.com | |||
| 11 May 2022 | Gambling with a Passable Bad Guy (Babylon 5: S1 Ep19) | 00:54:13 | |
Its the episode with alien schlong! Join Andrew and I as we marvel at just how they managed to get that passed the censors as we take a look at the season one Babylon 5 episode The Quality of Mercy Want to follow along? Check out the preferred viewing order at the link below! https://babylon5.fandom.com/wiki/Ideal_Viewing_Order#Ideal_Intended_Order Send your questions, comments and happy thoughts to thepodcastingguild@gmail.com! Facebook page and Discord channel coming soon? | |||
| 22 Mar 2022 | PsyGuy's Righteous Indignation (Babylon 5: S1 Ep15) | 00:57:13 | |
Join us as The Podcasting Guild reviews the season 1 episode Eyes which just so happens to feature Star Trek fan favorite actor Jeffery Combs! Want to follow along? Check out the preferred viewing order at the link below! https://babylon5.fandom.com/wiki/Ideal_Viewing_Order#Ideal_Intended_Order Send your questions, comments and happy thoughts to thepodcastingguild@gmail.com! Facebook page and Discord channel coming soon? | |||
| 15 Jul 2022 | Season 1 Retrospective (Babylon 5: S1 Review) | 00:49:53 | |
Science News! https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-022-04764-4#Sec1 Want to follow along? Check out the preferred viewing order at the link below! https://babylon5.fandom.com/wiki/Ideal_Viewing_Order#Ideal_Intended_Order Send your questions, comments and happy thoughts to thepodcastingguild@gmail.com! Facebook page and Discord channel coming soon? | |||
| 04 May 2023 | In Other News, Another Poorly Planned Invasion (Babylon 5: S2 Ep10) | 00:51:22 | |
Dr. Franklin's dad shows up and Garabaldi flirts with a marine?1 How ever will this turn out? Join Eric and Andrew for another installment of The Podcasting Guild as they take a look at the season two Babylon 5 episode GROPOS Science News! https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2023/nasa-s-webb-telescope-captures-rarely-seen-prelude-to-supernova Show Credits: Host: Eric Host: Andrew Theme Song: DJ Madlon Liked our theme tune?! Check out more of DJ Madlon's work at the link below and support new and local artists! https://linktr.ee/madlon PRODUCTION NOTE As some of you may be aware, as of the end of January 2023 HBO Max has stopped carrying Babylon 5 for streaming so if you'd like to continue to follow along your next best bet will be to watch the series on Amazon Prime or Roku and Tubi. This is not an endorsement of either service just want to make sure fans of the show know where they can easily find it! https://cordcuttersnews.com/remastered-babylon-5-is-coming-to-the-roku-channel-tubi-after-leaving-hbo-max/ Want to follow along? Check out the preferred viewing order at the link below! https://babylon5.fandom.com/wiki/Ideal_Viewing_Order#Ideal_Intended_Order Send your questions, comments and happy thoughts to thepodcastingguild@gmail.com! Facebook page and Discord channel coming soon? | |||
| 16 Jan 2022 | Malcom In the Middle and the Space Fascists (Babylon 5: S1 Ep7) | 00:45:14 | |
Join us for another episode of the Podcasting Guild: Babylon 5! On this episode we take a look at season one's The War Prayer where the Babylon 5 team contends with a growing xenophobic fascists movement on the station. Meanwhile back in the real world we have some surprise guests dropping in as our podcast continues to demonstrate just how amazingly professional we are! Happy New Year! | |||
| 07 Feb 2022 | Picking Sides In the Wrong Argument (Babylon 5: S1 Ep10) | 00:44:25 | |
This week we tuck into one of the more controversial Babylon 5 episodes, Believers! Join us as Andrew and I wonder why a station of 250,000 people doesn't have one family counselor and if you're curious, here's one of the articles I mentioned during the show as well! https://thehill.com/changing-america/enrichment/arts-culture/587480-nasa-hired-religious-experts-to-predict-how-humans
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| 15 Feb 2023 | Exponential Deep Vs (Babylon 5: S2 Ep8) | 00:51:52 | |
Leave Talia alooooonnneeee! Talia deals with yet more EMOTIONAL DAMAGE while Londo has a very important decision to make! Join Andrew and Eric as they delve yet again into the universe of Babylon 5 with this weeks review of the episode Soul Mates! Science News! https://www.theguardian.com/science/2023/jan/23/exotic-green-comet-not-seen-since-stone-age-returns-to-skies-above-earth Show Credits: Host: Eric Host: Andrew Theme Song: DJ Madlon Liked our theme tune?! Check out more of DJ Madlon's work at the link below and support new and local artists! https://linktr.ee/madlon PRODUCTION NOTE As some of you may be aware, as of the end of January 2023 HBO Max has stopped carrying Babylon 5 for streaming so if you'd like to continue to follow along your next best bet will be to watch the series on Amazon Prime or Roku and Tubi. This is not an endorsement of either service just want to make sure fans of the show know where they can easily find it! https://cordcuttersnews.com/remastered-babylon-5-is-coming-to-the-roku-channel-tubi-after-leaving-hbo-max/ Want to follow along? Check out the preferred viewing order at the link below! https://babylon5.fandom.com/wiki/Ideal_Viewing_Order#Ideal_Intended_Order Send your questions, comments and happy thoughts to thepodcastingguild@gmail.com! Facebook page and Discord channel coming soon? | |||
| 31 Jan 2022 | Immortality and the Downfall of Capitalism: A Treatise (Babylon 5: S1 Ep9) | 00:46:32 | |
In this installment of The Podcasting Guild we take a look at the season one episode Deathwalker and try to figure out what society might look like if people did become immortal. Join as we go down the rabbit hole and continue exploring the Babylon 5 universe! | |||
| 25 May 2022 | Terrible Accents (Babylon 5: S1 Ep20) | 00:40:03 | |
In this weeks Podcasting Guild: Babylon 5 Andrew and Eric take a look at the season one episode TKO! Is it really as bad as everyone says or is there a glimmer of something good there.... who knows?! (not really) Either way tune in to find out as we take you through another Babylon 5 review! Science News! https://www.newscientist.com/article/2317479-all-four-of-the-key-dna-building-blocks-have-been-found-in-meteorites/ Want to follow along? Check out the preferred viewing order at the link below! https://babylon5.fandom.com/wiki/Ideal_Viewing_Order#Ideal_Intended_Order Send your questions, comments and happy thoughts to thepodcastingguild@gmail.com! Facebook page and Discord channel coming soon? | |||
| 02 Dec 2021 | Natural 20 Charisma Check, But A Critical Fail In Name Memorization (Babylon 5: S1 Ep3) | 00:55:43 | |
On today's episode of The Podcasting Guild Babylon 5, Andrew and I take a look at Born to Purple! Tag a long as Andrew tries to remember names and I leave him hanging. Trigger Warning: In this episode we do briefly discuss a portion of the show which depicts aspects of implied sexual trafficking, slavery, and sexual exploitation. If these topics are triggering for you, please consider skipping this episode. | |||
| 16 Aug 2022 | The Podcasting Guild After Dark: Galaxy Quest | 00:52:26 | |
Its our interseason special as promised! In this latest episode, join Andrew and Eric as they take a brief detour to check out Galaxy Quest! Science News! https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2022/07/james-webb-space-telescope-nasa-carina-nebula/670502/ https://www.nasa.gov/webbfirstimages Want to follow along? Check out the preferred viewing order at the link below! https://babylon5.fandom.com/wiki/Ideal_Viewing_Order#Ideal_Intended_Order Send your questions, comments and happy thoughts to thepodcastingguild@gmail.com! Facebook page and Discord channel coming soon? | |||
| 22 Jan 2023 | Captain Do You Know What It's Like When Kerbals Make Love? (Babylon 5: S2 Ep7) | 00:54:36 | |
Bester returns! Everyone's favorite PsiCop stops by for a fun little romp as he tries to track down runaway telepaths. Who's side is Talia on? Join Andrew and Eric as they watch A Race Through Dark Places in this installment of The Podcasting Guild. Science News! https://exoplanets.nasa.gov/news/1722/webb-confirms-its-first-exoplanet/ Show Credits: Host: Eric Host: Andrew Theme Song: DJ Madlon Liked our new theme tune?! Check out more of DJ Madlon's work at the link below and support new and local artists! https://linktr.ee/madlon PRODUCTION NOTE As some of you may be aware, as of the end of January HBO Max is likely to stop carrying Babylon 5 for streaming so if you'd like to continue to follow along your next best bet will be to watch the series on Amazon Prime. This is not an endorsement of either service just want to make sure fans of the show know where they can easily find it! Want to follow along? Check out the preferred viewing order at the link below! https://babylon5.fandom.com/wiki/Ideal_Viewing_Order#Ideal_Intended_Order Send your questions, comments and happy thoughts to thepodcastingguild@gmail.com! Facebook page and Discord channel coming soon? | |||
| 04 Apr 2022 | Oops He Did It Again (Babylon 5: S1 Ep16) | 00:41:26 | |
Hey friends! Sorry for the delay in this release, had a bit of a snafu if you will which pushed back the recording but no worries we're back again! In this episode join as we take a look at A Voice In the Wilderness Part I, the first two parter in the Babylon series. Want to follow along? Check out the preferred viewing order at the link below! https://babylon5.fandom.com/wiki/Ideal_Viewing_Order#Ideal_Intended_Order Send your questions, comments and happy thoughts to thepodcastingguild@gmail.com! Facebook page and Discord channel coming soon? | |||
| 04 Dec 2022 | Franklin's 5 Step Diet In Space! Lose Weight While Weightless! (Babylon 5: S2 Ep4) | 00:40:10 | |
Dr. Franklin's power trip episode sees him prescribing diets to the crew! Will they mutiny and is does weight loss even make sense in a weightless environment?! Who knows?! Join Andrew and Eric as we figure it all out in this weeks episode of The Podcast Guild! Science News! https://www.voanews.com/a/first-native-american-woman-in-space-awed-by-mother-earth-/6797196.html https://time.com/6222212/dennis-tito-moon-space-tourism/ Show Credits: Host: Eric Host: Andrew Theme Song: DJ Madlon Liked our new theme tune?! Check out more of DJ Madlon's work at the link below and support new artists! https://linktr.ee/madlon Want to follow along? Check out the preferred viewing order at the link below! https://babylon5.fandom.com/wiki/Ideal_Viewing_Order#Ideal_Intended_Order Send your questions, comments and happy thoughts to thepodcastingguild@gmail.com! Facebook page and Discord channel coming soon? | |||
| 11 Apr 2022 | #Blessed (Babylon 5: S1 Ep17) | 00:40:32 | |
Ron Canada makes an appearance in this weeks Babylon 5 episode A Voice In The Wilderness Part II! Join your friends Andrew and Eric as we speculate how we would've made the episode better with less filler and more content as we try to come up with more content for you guys at the same time! It's all very meta when you think about it. Learn more about the cool sciencey stuff we talked about on this weeks episode here! https://hubblesite.org/contents/news-releases/2022/news-2022-003.html Want to follow along? Check out the preferred viewing order at the link below! https://babylon5.fandom.com/wiki/Ideal_Viewing_Order#Ideal_Intended_Order Send your questions, comments and happy thoughts to thepodcastingguild@gmail.com! Facebook page and Discord channel coming soon? | |||
| 13 Dec 2021 | Mr. Roboto (Babylon 5: S1 Ep4) | 00:45:15 | |
In today's episode we take a look at Babylon 5's season one episode Infection where the crew has to deal with a biomechanical super solider! To help with your immersion, my microphone decided I would play the role of robot host as well so enjoy! Sorry about the poor audio, it'll be fixed for the next episode promise! Have I mentioned how we don't know what we're doing yet...? | |||