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18 Sep 2023James Duffy MD - What’s The Point? …The Good Heart00:57:38

In this challenging exploration of wisdom for 21st century healers, we confront the challenges of professional burnout and the rise of artificial intelligence. This introspective journey begins with a question posed to me by His Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama i.e.: “Do I have a good heart?”. His question challenged me to consider the importance of a heart-based connection in healing and steers us toward a critical examination of the consequences of a healthcare system built on a bedrock of scientific materialism.

Please join me as I  discuss the significance of an 'education of the heart' in contrast to an 'education of the intellect.' We traverse indigenous wisdom, delve into a conversation between Chief Mountain Lake of the Taos Pueblo tribe and Carl Jung, and consider the role of radical authentic compassion in healing. We explore the concept of a 'noetic education of the heart,' and call upon the wisdom of contemplative practitioners across time including Daniel Wachapa, a renowned shaman of the Shuar tribe, and the inspiring words of Mahatma Gandhi, Rumi, Krishnamurti, William Blake, and Thomas Merton and others.

We consider how we can unite heart and mind to create a more meaningful future for healers. We turn to the wise words of Thomas Berry, discuss the dangers of a soulless future, and emphasize the importance of becoming active participants in our evolutionary journey. Join us as we embark on this journey of discovery and transformation. 

--------- EPISODE CHAPTERS ---------

(0:00:03) - Exploring Wisdom for 21st Century Healers

(0:14:29) - The Crisis of Burnout Among Healers

(0:31:06) - Education of the Heart

(0:48:19) - The Importance of an Noetic Education

(0:55:38) - Educating Heart and Mind for Future

Learn more about The Healers Council at:

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18 Sep 2023Edward Neal MD - Excavating Medical Wisdom of the Neijing Su Wen01:29:27

The episode is an in-depth discussion with Ed Neal MD, who has a deep understanding of healing and modern science. 

Dr Neal has a profound background including studies at the Young Institute in Zurich and his involvement with the Apricot Grove Project. 

The conversation delves into the wisdom encapsulated in Francis Bacon’s quote, “Nature to be commanded must be obeyed,” and its influence on healing practices. 

We discuss the concept of Jing Shen, a belief in an original destiny that propels individuals into the healing path. This path is marked by courage, curiosity, and a deep connection to nature-centric medicine. 

We also explore the concept of the wounded healer and how this perspective shapes the work of healing. 

The transformative power of stories and their ability to shape reality is discussed. They consider the importance of transition in the healing journey. 

The conversation also focuses on the role of light in healing and identity, and the power of ecological restoration. 

Neal highlights the idea of understanding nature's patterns and their influence on medical conditions. He emphasizes the need for physicians to restore the ecology, not just treat symptoms. 

The episode also discusses the practice of nature-based medicine, the importance of breath in healing, and the role of consciousness. 

The final segment of the episode appreciates the power of compassionate storytelling in the journey of healing. It reflects on the power of stories to shape reality and emphasizes the importance of embracing the journey of healing.

You can learn more about Ed Neal MD at: The Institute for Neijing Studies

www.neijingstudies.com


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18 Sep 2023David Shlim MD - The Compassion in Medicine Project01:26:47

Join us as we navigate the fascinating journey of David Shlim MD, an exceptional healer and physician, and his integration of compassion, wisdom, and Buddhist philosophy into the field of medicine. David shares his personal and spiritual transformation from an English literature major to a pioneering figure in travel medicine, a tour doctor for the Rolling Stones, and an ardent student of Buddhist philosophy. His exploration of the teachings of his spiritual mentor, Choki Nyima Rinpoche, sheds light on the importance of self-compassion and how it naturally blossoms into compassion for others. 

Throughout this episode, David imparts his wisdom on  the role of compassion in the medical field. He discusses how his meditative practices and the teachings of Chokyi Nyima Rinpoche transformed his approach towards his patients and brought a sense of openness and empathy into his medical practice. With his compelling stories and insights, David offers a unique perspective on understanding suffering, accepting life's impermanence, and finding resilience in the face of life's challenges.

Finally, we engage in a thought-provoking discussion on the current state of medical education and the need for a shift towards a more compassionate and empathetic approach. David encourages listeners to visit the Medicine and Compassion Project website and emphasizes the importance of self-compassion in fostering a more positive and empathetic healthcare environment. This episode offers a profound look at the intersection of medicine, compassion, and spirituality and leaves listeners with a fresh perspective on the healing potential of compassion. So, tune in as we journey with David Shlim MD into the heart of compassionate medicine.

Learn more about David and The Compassion Project at:

www.davidshlim.com

--------- EPISODE CHAPTERS ---------

(0:00:01) - Exploring Wisdom With Remarkable Healers

(0:03:49) - Becoming a Healer

(0:17:52) - Training Compassion in Western Medicine

(0:24:14) - Compassion and Personal Transformation

(0:34:57) - Understanding Impermanence and Life's Challenges

(0:42:25) - Personal and Spiritual Development in Medicine

(0:46:58) - Understanding Suffering and Compassion in Medicine

(1:02:32) - Importance of Compassion in Medical Education

(1:08:51) - Teaching Compassion and Self-Compassion in Medicine

(1:23:27) - Training Compassion in Medicine

Check out David’s website at:

www.davidshlim.com


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18 Sep 2023Robert Svoboda - Ayurveda and the Wisdom of Nature01:35:19

Join us for a fascinating exploration into the world of Ayurveda, as we are joined by Robert Svoboda, the first Westerner to be licensed as an Ayurvedic physician in India. Listen in as he takes us through his journey, from growing up on the Gulf Coast and Oklahoma, traversing Africa, landing in London and Nepal, and finally, arriving in India where he unexpectedly found himself studying the ancient medical tradition of  Ayurveda. This episode takes you through his experiences, and the wealth of knowledge he has gathered over the years.

This engaging conversation ventures into discussions on the power of life, healing, the role of intention, and how Ayurveda aids the life force. Robert shares about the importance of shared intention in healing, and the crucial aspect of human connection.  He discusses the importance of bringing ancient wisdom into urban healing, focusing on the concepts of philosophy and vision. He highlights the need for sustainability and discusses the potential danger of medical cultural appropriation.

In the latter part of the episode, Robert sheds light on the concept of Satsangha and its role in healing. We discuss the criticality of human interaction in the physical world, and the importance of a healer's connection to the life force. Our conversation touches on the role of intuition and consciousness in healing, and the emerging field of interoception. The discussion wraps up with insights on addressing burnout, the impact of AI in healthcare, and the importance of building connections in the digital era. You don't want to miss this rich and enlightening conversation with a truly wise healer!

Learn more about Robert and his work at:

www.drsvoboda.com


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18 Sep 2023Melanie Reinhart - Chiron and The Healers Journey -01:30:25

Long before GPS and Google Maps, human beings navigated their way using celestial bodies. We invite you to find your way with us in this episode of our podcast series featuring renowned astrologer Melanie Reinhart. Join us as we traverse the cosmos, exploring the compelling world of astrology, centaurs, and the symbolism of Chiron, the 'maverick' of the solar system.

Melanie shares how her fascination for astrology ignited when she was just ten years old and how a treasured book, The Pulse of Life, shaped her journey towards becoming an acclaimed astrologer. Take a leap with us into the captivating orbit of Chiron and unearth the profound influence celestial bodies like these can have on our lives. Be a part of our journey as we uncover the paradoxes of Chiron, healing, and their deep connection to the human condition. 

Chiron's story, a mythical tale rich in symbolism, mirrors many of our own experiences, especially for those of us who identify as healers or are on a path of healing. From exploring the realities of solar system to the foundational shifts represented by the Kuiper Belt discovery, our conversation with Melanie is a treasure trove of wisdom. Listen in as we examine Chiron's journey, a tale of wounding, healing and transformation that echoes the mythic narrative of Chiron. This episode is an invitation to explore the art of healing, the beauty of inner work, and the compassion inherent within us all.

(0:00:01) - Melanie Reinhart

(0:13:40) - The Discovery and Symbolism of Chiron

(0:27:48) - Paradoxes of Chiron and Healing

(0:37:12) - The Kuiper Belt Discovery and Paradigm Shifts

(0:45:26) - Chiron

(1:00:23) - Exploring Lineage and Ancestral Trauma

(1:06:15) - Spiritual Healing and Transformation in Mythology

(1:13:55) - Exploring Healing, Compassion, and Inner Work

For more information on Melanie Reinhart please check out her website at:

www.melaniereinhart.com


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19 Sep 2023Lewis Mehl-Madrona MD PhD - The Power of Stories to Heal00:27:38

Listen in as we navigate the compelling landscape of stories and their profound impact on healing. Our guest expert passionately shares insights into the concept of the Default Mode Network in neuroscience and its activation when we daydream, which leads us into the intriguing discussion on  Dialogical Self Theory and Therapy. As we unravel the ways in which we construct self-theory from stories, we consider how to shape better, more constructive narratives as opposed to destructive ones. In an interesting contrast, we explore how narrative therapy differs from CBT. 

Further on, we delve into the fascinating field of brain plasticity, constraint-induced movement therapy, and the mirroring effect our brains have on the world around us. As we discuss how societies often prioritize immediate gratification over delayed gratification, we look at the possibility of counteracting pro-inflammatory stories with anti-inflammatory ones. Lastly, we cast a critical eye on the capitalistic healthcare system, discussing its transformation into a transactional entity, and its subsequent effect on burnout and emotional well-being. Join us as we question, learn, and provoke thought on the power of stories in healing.


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18 Dec 2023James Hollis Ph.D. - Healer, Heal Thyself01:18:17

Dr. James Hollis, one of the world’s leading Jungian psychoanalysts, discusses the challenges and motivations of healers, particularly in the context of navigating crises in our lives. He explores the concept of the wounded healer and how childhood experiences shape one's path as a healer. Dr. Hollis emphasizes the importance of self-awareness and therapy for healers to address their own wounds and motivations. He also delves into the topics of shame, courage, and burnout among healthcare professionals. Overall, the conversation highlights the need for healers to navigate their own inner journey in order to provide effective care to others. In this conversation, Dr. James Hollis discusses the topics of neurosis, burnout, and the role of the healer. He emphasizes the importance of being accountable to ourselves and listening to what our soul wants. Dr. Hollis also explores the idea of finding enlivenment in the healing profession and working with dreams and symptomatology. He discusses the impact of modernization on the healing professions and the attributes of a healer. The conversation concludes with advice for young people entering the healing professions. Most significantly, Dr. Hollis reminds us of the critical importance and significance of setting oneself free.

Chapters

00:00
Introduction and Midlife Crisis

03:21
Becoming a Healer

06:43
The Concept of the Wounded Healer

11:16
Motivations for Becoming a Healer

16:07
Repeating Family Pathologies

20:12
Collective Trauma and Healing

23:12
Shame and Self-Compassion

26:05
Courage and Authenticity

30:03
Shame and Burnout

53:16
The Definition of Neurosis and Burnout

54:06
Being Accountable to Ourselves

55:05
Listening to What the Soul Wants

56:20
Finding Enlivenment in the Healing Profession

58:05
The Role of the Healer

59:25
Working with Dreams and Symptomatology

01:00:20
Holding the In-Betweenness of Life

01:01:40
Understanding the Meta Story of a Person's Life

01:02:32
Finding Meaning in Suffering

01:03:40
The Impact of Modernization on the Healing Professions

01:04:09
The Attributes of a Healer

01:05:15
The Weight of Factors in the Medical Profession

01:06:09
The Four Stages of Healing

01:07:13
The Crossroads of Artificial Intelligence and Healing

01:08:43
Advice for Young People Entering the Healing Professions

01:12:07
Setting Yourself Free and Changing Lineage

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22 Dec 2023Lewis Mehl-Medrona - Coyote Medicine, Two-Eyed Seeing00:46:20

Get ready for an intriguing and potent conversation as we sit down with the remarkable Lewis Mel Madrona MD PhD. We're talking about a man with a wealth of knowledge in both allopathic and indigenous medicine, making him a fascinating blend of western education and indigenous wisdom. Lewis generously shares his experiences as part of the Wabanaki Public Health and Wellness Group and Acadia Hospital, while also introducing us to his brainchild, the Coyote Institute. Understand the deep symbology behind his choice of the coyote as a totem - a nod to his critique on corporate medicine and neoliberal capitalism, coupled with a healthy dose of humor. Brace yourselves as Lewis also talks about the unique challenges he faced when merging his indigenous healing practices into mainstream medicine.

Our conversation with Lewis takes a deeper plunge into the realm of healing as he shares his journey within Native American healing traditions. Hear about the healers or 'Fixit People,' as the Lakota call them, and how they bring about healing sans labels. With Lewis, we sift through the concept of healing as an activity that involves the entire community and the spiritual growth that is integral to becoming a healer. Get a rare insight into the workings of the Healers Council and the practice of healing camps. To wrap things up, Lewis takes us on an enlightening exploration of the intersections between neuroscience, the default mode network, and both physical and spiritual healing. So, gear up for an episode filled with inspiring dialogue and meaningful insights on the blend of allopathy and indigenous wisdom in healthcare.

Chapters

00:00
Introduction and Background

01:21
The Role of Story in Healing

03:19
The Default Mode Network and Storytelling

05:15
The Power of Stories in Shaping Identity

07:32
Narrative Therapy and Changing Destructive Stories

10:23
The Influence of Stories on Beliefs and Perception

11:50
The Impact of Capitalism on Storytelling and Well-being

15:23
The Loss of Shared Narratives and the Impact on Wellness

16:34
Life Happens in the Space Between

19:27
The Indigenous Perspective on Nature and Narrative

21:37
Immediate Gratification and the Need for Anti-inflammatory Stories

22:36
The Role of Narrative in Alzheimer's Disease

23:46
The Impact of Social Relationships on Brain Health

26:23
Working with Stories in Therapy

27:05
Using Non-Ordinary States of Consciousness to Shift Stories

33:33
Shifting Stories through Hypnosis and Guided Imagery

36:19
The Six-Part Story Method for Changing Narratives

39:44
The Power of Circles in Healing

42:22
The Transactional Nature of Healthcare and the Need for Relational Care

Vist Coyote Medicine at:
https://mehl-madrona.com/


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19 Dec 2023Lonny Jarrett - Nourishing Our Destiny01:26:09

In this intimate conversation, Lonny Jarrett, an internationally recognized authority on the practice of Five Element Acupuncture, shares his insights on the journey of a healer. He describes his spiritual awakening and the transformative impact it had on his life and practice, acknowledging the courage and faith it takes to truly serve as a healer. He discusses the integral nature of healing, emphasizing the responsibility of healers to transform suffering into compassion and wisdom. Lonny also reminisces about his lifelong mentorship with Leon Hammer, his own contributions to Chinese medicine in the West, and his decision to wind down his practice. His journey culminates in the essential lesson that everybody is a teacher and that our humanity is a vital aspect of the healer's journey.

00:00 Introduction to the Healing Journey

01:40 The Healers Council: A Conversation with Lani Jarrett

07:39 The Path to Becoming a Healer

09:10 The Role of Chinese Medicine in Healing

13:03 The Importance of Self-Cultivation in Healing

17:12 The Three Levels of Medicine

25:57 The Integral View of Healing

40:27 The Role of Healers in Society

44:00 The Responsibility of Healers in the Modern World

47:43 Creating a Group of Thought Leaders

48:41 Understanding Integral Medicine

50:19 The Role of Courage in Healing

50:58 The Bodhisattva Vow and the Motivation to Make Things Whole

51:58 The Journey of Awakening and Self-Realization

54:30 The Struggle with Ego and the Path to Development

59:10 The Spiritual Path and Working with What Is

01:00:22 The Importance of Being Ready and Facing the Reality of Aging

01:00:58 The Transition Period in Practice and the Importance of Self-Compassion

01:06:58 The Journey of Becoming a Healer and the Influence of Teachers

01:15:45 The Passing of Leon Hammer and His Influence

01:25:39 The Future of Healing and the Importance of Collective Growth


https://lonnyjarrett.com/



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15 Jan 2024Dr Jampa Yonten - The Qualities of A Healer - Intelligence00:52:07

In this deep, extensive conversation, Dr. Jampa Yonten, a Tibetan physician, discusses the philosophy and practice of Tibetan medicine. He expresses the importance of not viewing patients as sick but as equals who are seeking happiness and freedom from suffering. Dr. Yontan explains that Tibetan medicine is not only a medical practice but also intertwined with spiritual practice, inseparable from compassion. He details the Tibetan perspective of intelligence in relation to the physician's practice, examining the concepts of broad-mindedness, stable-mindedness, and deep-mindedness. He emphasizes that the practice of Tibetan medicine involves a habitual spiritual routine that can help prevent burnout and provides energy, making practitioners more effective healers. The conversation encapsulates the importance of lineage and wisdom deities in Tibetan medicine, highlighting its deep rooted spirituality and the role it plays in the practitioner's approach to healing.

00:02 Introduction to Compassionate Healing

01:06 The Power of Compassion in Healing

01:39 Exploring Wisdom with Healers

02:14 The Role of Compassion in Tibetan Medicine

03:07 The Qualities of a Physician

04:12 The Importance of Intelligence in Healing

04:55 The Three Types of Intelligence

07:46 The Role of Spirituality in Healing

12:09 The Practice of Broad Mindedness

21:46 The Practice of Stable Mindedness

33:44 The Practice of Deep Mindedness

38:26 The Importance of Lineage in Healing

44:58 The Role of Protectors in Healing

50:10 Conclusion: The Power of Compassion


https://www.amazon.com/Compassion-Remedy-Tibetan-Medicine-Limitless-ebook/dp/B0BSRNT67B


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15 Jan 2024Tibetan Medicine - Medicine as a Spiritual Practice. Dr Jampa Yonten00:44:39

The Healer's Council: A Deep Dive into Tibetan Medicine with Dr. Jampa Yonten

In this episode of The Healer's Council, Jim engages in a detailed conversation with Dr. Jampa Yonten, a Tibetan physician and author of a book titled, 'Compassion as Remedy in Tibetan Medicine'. The conversation provides insight into Dr. Yonten's transformation into a healer, the history of Tibetan medicine, and the structure of its fundamental text, The Gyushi. The episode highlights the qualities of a good healer and elucidates on the interplay of karma and determination in manifesting one's purpose. 

00:00 Introduction to the Healer's Journey

01:30 The Role of Wisdom and Compassion in Healing

01:57 Guest Introduction: Dr. Jampa Yonten

04:25 The Path to Becoming a Healer

12:45 The History and Evolution of Tibetan Medicine

26:24 The Significance of the Physician Chapter

28:14 The Transformational Journey of Medical Training

28:32 Understanding the Six Vows of a Physician

32:44 The Four Tantras of Gyushu

37:48 The Determination and Sacrifice in Becoming a Healer

43:18 Exploring the Qualities of a Physician

43:35 Closing Remarks and Preview of Next Episode

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19 Jan 2024Dr Jampa Yonten on The Qualities of A Healer - Intelligence00:51:29

The “Intelligent Physician” - The First Quality of a Healer

This conversation takes a deep dive into the principles and practices of Tibetan medicine, focusing mainly on the compassion aspect of the practice. Dr. Jampa Yonten a Tibetan physician based in Bangalore, explains the importance of looking at the patient as one would look at oneself, and this ability to empathize is what allows the physician to truly heal. The discussion further unravels various aspects such as intelligence of a physician, including broad mindedness, stable mindedness, and deep mindedness. The importance of spirituality in the practice of Tibetan medicine is discussed as Dr Yonten explains how practicing compassion energizes the practitioner rather than depleting them, leading to the avoidance of burnout. The significance of lineage and protection deities in Tibetan medicine adds another layer to the deeply interconnected nature of this practice.

00:02 Introduction to Compassionate Healing

01:06 Exploring the Wisdom of Traditional Healers

01:42 Introduction to the Second Session with Dr. Jampa Yonten

02:14 Exploring the Book 'Compassion As Remedy in Tibetan Medicine'

03:07 Understanding the Qualities of a Physician

04:12 The Role of Intelligence in Healing

05:54 The Importance of Broad Mindedness in Healing

21:54 The Role of Stable Mindedness in Healing

33:44 The Importance of Deep Mindedness in Healing

38:26 The Role of Lineage and Protective Deities in Healing

50:10 Conclusion: The Power of Compassion in Healing


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22 Jan 2024Peter Fairfield - A Life Exploring Deep Medicine01:09:33

In the discussion, Peter Fairfield, renowned acupuncturist and medical intuitive, is characterized by his ability to blend traditional wisdom with contemporary relevance. The conversation examines the complexity of medicine and healing, emphasizing the significance of emotional, spiritual, and personal development in becoming a successful healer. Fairfield explains the essential nature of empathy and understanding in building a healer-patient relationship rather than simply relying on facts and figures. Furthermore, the dialogue underlines the importance of acknowledging ancestral lineages in shaping the healer's work. Fairfield shares insights about the human heart's role in health and intuition’s integral role in the healing practice. He stresses the importance of authenticity and self-compassion among healers while unearthing the importance of intuition in their practice.

00:00 Introduction to the Healer's Journey

00:59 The Power of Ancestral Influence

01:51 Guest Introduction: Peter Fairfield L.Ac.

06:36 Peter's Journey into Healing

09:59 The Role of Spirituality in Healing

20:37 The Impact of Ancestral Lineage on Healing

23:38 The Importance of Self-Understanding for Healers

26:34 The Influence of Modern Medicine on Healing

29:52 The Role of Emotion and Connection in Healing

34:24 The Need for Personal Discovery in Healing

35:10 Expressing Discontent and the Basis of Healing

35:48 The Power of Heart and Kitten Therapy

36:34 The Healer's Council and the Concept of Heart

38:18 The Human Heart Beyond a Pump

38:39 The Heart in Chinese Medicine

41:28 Understanding and Forgiving the Pain in Others

44:27 The Role of Healers in Shifting Pain Cycles

48:14 The Importance of Self-Compassion for Healers

50:31 The Power of Pulse Diagnosis

59:20 The Role of Intuition in Healing

01:07:17 The Impact of Healers on Patients




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29 Jan 2024Elliott Dacher - Beyond Mindfullness, and Into the Heart of Healing00:54:06

In this engaging exchange, Jim interviews Dr. Elliott Dacher, a physician who encourages medical professionals to practice medicine with heart, underlining the nobility of it. He explains how he transitioned from traditional medical practice to integral healing, foregrounding the importance of human flourishing in healthcare. According to him, the full scope of human flourishing includes serenity, natural wisdom, enduring happiness, self-compassion, and freedom from the known. Dr. Dacher emphasizes the individual's development to bring rich compassion and care in healing and elaborates on the relevance of integral theory and self-cultivation techniques in the life of a medical professional.

00:00 Introduction to the Healers Council

00:57 Conversation with Elliot Dacher MD: A Physician's Journey

02:12 Elliot's Motivation to Become a Healer

04:09 The Evolution of Elliot's Healing Practice

04:42 Elliot's Transformational Journey to India

05:52 The Importance of Curiosity and Social Justice in Healing

06:36 The Lost Potential of Modern Medicine

09:17 Elliot's Transition from Traditional Medicine

09:34 The Role of Community in Healing

10:11 Elliot's Experience with Traditional Allopathic Medicine

10:34 The Shift to a More Patient-Centered Practice

11:37 The Teachable Moment in Disease and Illness

13:20 The Courage to Transition and the Stages of Change

14:46 The Call to a New Phase of Life and Healing

22:04 The In-Between Time and the Sacred Marriage

24:10 Rediscovering the Self Beyond the Healer's Identity

25:19 Understanding the Essence of Self

25:38 The Struggle of Identity in Professional Health Schools

25:51 The Glimpse of Truth and the Source of Desire

26:59 The Ego Grind and the Habit of Identity

27:29 The Misconception of Ego and Identity

28:02 The Essence of Being and the Obscuration of Identity

28:47 The Return to Culture and the Embrace of Biomedicine

30:23 The Power of Presence in Healing

34:39 The Concept of Integral Healing

39:52 Understanding Human Flourishing

46:31 The Importance of Self-Cultivation in Healing

49:53 Advice for Aspiring Healers

www.edacher.org


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31 Jan 2024Erika Cappelluti MD PhD - Integrative Medicine; Changing Ourselves and The World01:07:31

Join us for this enriching conversation with the seasoned healthcare professional Dr. Erica Cappelluti, who shares her journey from a research scientist to an esteemed figure in integrative and holistic medicine. Discussing the importance of self-care, maintaining balance, and seeking help in healthcare professions, she emphasizes the need for softness and compassion in what can often be a relentlessly demanding field. Dr. Cappelluti also elaborates on the transformational programs of the Academy of Integrative Health and Medicine, the unique offerings of its fellowship program, and the exciting prospects its new doctoral program brings. By providing a profound perspective on patient-centered care, holistic healing modalities, and the power of community in health and wellness, this conversation manifests the vibrant potential of a healthcare system deeply rooted in empathy and connection.

00:00 Introduction and Importance of Self-Care in Healthcare

01:29 Exploring Wisdom in Modern Healthcare

02:16 Introducing Dr. Erika Cappelluti : A Journey of Professional Growth

05:36 Dr. Erica's Personal Journey to Becoming a Healer

07:25 The Shift from Laboratory to Medical Community

12:43 The Intensive Care Unit: A Unique Experience

22:22 The Transition to Integrative Medicine

30:17 The Power of Community in Integrative Medicine

36:02 The Unique Interprofessional Nature of the Fellowship Program

36:34 Emphasis on Self-Care in the Fellowship Program

37:29 The Transformational Impact of the Fellowship

38:51 The Importance of Self-Care for Healthcare Providers

40:25 The Role of Community in the Fellowship Program

43:16 The Importance of Community for Healers

47:59 Defining Integrative Medicine

52:03 The Role of the Academy of Integrated Health and Medicine

59:16 The Future of Integrative and Whole Health

01:03:21 Advice for Aspiring Healers

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29 Jan 2024Kirsten DeLeo - Authentic Presence00:57:45

In this episode, we delve into a profound conversation with Kirsten DeLeo, a member of the Authentic Presence Program, and explore the very essence of 'being a healer'. The conversation emphasizes the significance of presence, wisdom, integrity, and humility within the healing profession, taking lessons from Kirsten's enriching life experiences and insights.

01:41 Introduction and Kirsten DeLeo's Background

04:34 Importance of presence

25:21 Insights into Wisdom and Healing

https://www.kirstendeleo.com/


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02 Feb 2024Richard Katz PhD - The True Nature of Healing01:03:50


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13 Feb 2024Christopher Cooke - Understanding Life Systems - Regeneration And Flourishing01:14:51
In this conversation, Jim interviews organizational change consultant, Christopher Cooke, as they discuss recognizing, responding, recovering, regenerating, and renewing within multiple systems, including those in nature, healthcare, and even those within individuals. Christopher shares his experiences in modifying the principles of change to heal struggling systems, such as drought-stricken farmlands in Australia and 'burnout' in healthcare systems. He highlights the importance of recognizing a problem, responding, and creating a safe space for natural self-organization towards health. They also touch on the role of fear, leadership, and the need to transition from scarcity to abundance.

00:00 Introduction to the Conversation

00:39 Exploring the Wisdom of Healers

01:12 Introducing Guest Speaker: Christopher Cook

02:47 Christopher's Journey and Work

03:31 Christopher's Philosophy and Approach

04:11 The Amazing Dynamic of Self-Organization

04:46 The Role of Curiosity in Human Evolution

05:30 The Role of Curiosity and Aliveness

05:57 The Power of Surprise in Personal and Professional Development

06:32 The Power of Collaboration and Synergy

07:26 Exploring the Concept of Aliveness and Vitality

07:56 The Journey of Never Stopping and Constantly Becoming

08:13 The Importance of Asking Questions and Spotting Gaps

14:50 The Importance of Timing in Healing and Stimulating Recovery

23:33 The Dangers of Synthetic Forms and Ignorance of How Life Works

30:34 The Power of Recognition, Response, Recovery, Regeneration, and Renewal

34:53 The Importance of Being Impressionistic and Open to New Information

36:14 The Relevance of Burnout and the Need for Deep Recognition

38:56 Recognizing the Need for Change

39:37 The Power of Perspective and Wisdom

40:08 The Struggles of Australian Farmers: A Case Study

40:32 The Burnout Crisis in Healthcare

41:27 The Importance of Recognition and Perspective Widening

42:06 The Challenge of Diverse Perspectives

42:49 The Principle of Free Will and Choice

44:11 The Power of Habit and the Struggle to Let Go

44:40 The State of Soil Health and Its Implications

46:15 The Role of Acceptance, Patience, and Compassion

46:45 The Impact of Fear on Performance and Creativity

47:36 The Journey Through Fear and Towards Optimism

55:24 The Power of Holistic Thinking in Management

57:15 The Role of Fear in Inhibiting Growth

59:20 The Importance of Listening and Creating Safe Spaces

01:04:03 The Role of Leadership in Managing Change

01:12:33 The Power of Recognition, Response, Recovery, Regeneration, and Renewal

01:14:29 Closing Thoughts and Reflections


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06 Mar 2024Ann Cecil-Sterman - Discovering The Doorways to Healing01:23:29

This conversation between Jim Duffy and Ann Cecil-Sterman delves into profound insights on healing, acupuncture, and the essence of being a healer in the modern world. Ann shares her journey in classical Chinese medicine, mentored by Jeffrey Yuen, and discusses the ethos of healing beyond technical proficiency towards becoming thinkers and connectors with a deep understanding of the ancient and energetic principles of acupuncture. The discussion covers topics such as the importance of humility, the transformative power of treating without judgment, cultivating one's spirit as a healer, and understanding the interconnected nature of our wellbeing. Ann also introduces her work at the Classical Medicine Academy, aimed at fostering a deeper connection and understanding of classical acupuncture practices among practitioners. The conversation highlights the potential of acupuncture to elicit healing by focusing on underlying conditions and the energetic balance within the body, fundamentally advocating for a wisdom-driven approach to health and healing in the 21st century.

00:00 Introduction and  Minor Technical Difficulties

00:45 The Importance of Thinking in Healing

01:34 Exploring Wisdom in Modern Medical Sciences

03:11 Introducing the Guest: Ann Cecil-Sterman

03:18 Anne's Journey and Her Work in Acupuncture

04:50 The Art of Pulse Diagnosis and Classical Medicine Academy

05:48 The Wisdom Perspective of Healing

05:58 The Unique Teacher-Student Relationship in Healing

10:16 The Concept of 'Transmission' in Healing

12:39 The Role of Intuition and Trust in Healing

15:30 The Impact of Healing on the Healer

17:51 Understanding the Channels in Acupuncture

21:43 The Role of Blood and Fluids in Healing

28:44 The Importance of Understanding Patient's Narratives

42:56 Understanding Emotions and Their Impact on Health

45:00 The Role of Emotions in Disease Development

45:15 The Power of Questions and the Search for Answers

46:18 The Significance of Tears and Emotional Release

47:39 The Journey of Healing and Transformation

48:30 The Role of the Practitioner in the Healing Process

49:16 Understanding Healing Crises

51:13 The Importance of Trust in the Patient-Practitioner Relationship

52:15 The Impact of Beliefs on Health and Healing

52:57 Exploring the Purpose and Power of Meditation

54:43 The Role of Empathy and Connection in Healing

55:07 Understanding the Spirit in Healing

57:24 The Importance of Humility in the Healing Process

01:07:40 The Power of Pulse Diagnosis in Healing

01:13:14 The Role of Self-Cultivation in Healing

01:15:31 Exploring New Approaches to Healing

01:19:36 The Future of Healing and Medicine


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26 Mar 2024Desda Zuckerman - Navigating the Sacred Anatomy of Healing01:18:46

Navigating the Sacred Anatomy of Healing

This conversation explores the profound realm of healing beyond the physical, delving into the concept of sacred anatomy and the spiritual aspects of health and healing. Desda Zuckerman shares her insights on seeing beyond the physical body, understanding individuals as manifestations of divine consciousness, and emphasizes the importance of witnessing, rather than fixing, as a healer's greatest gift. The discussion highlights the notion of 'entanglements' in healing, the significance of authenticity and vulnerability in healing practices, and the necessity of a spiritual practice for healers. Zuckerman introduces the concept of 'edge practice' in managing one’s energy field and addresses the contemporary issue of healer burnout, advocating for a partnership rather than a directive approach in the healing process. The dialogue encourages healers to see their role as facilitators of self-healing, urging them to embrace humility, vulnerability, and an openness to the mystical dimensions of healing.

http://www.yoursacredanatomy.com

00:00 The Power of True Healing: Seeing Beyond the Physical

01:24 Introducing the Healers Council: A Journey into Wisdom

03:09 Meet Desda Zuckerman: A Healer with a Unique Vision

04:07 Exploring Sacred Anatomy: A New Perspective on Energy

09:54 The Essence of Sacred Anatomy: Systems and Structures

20:15 Understanding the Mind-Body-Spirit Connection

28:49 The Role of a Healer: Witnessing and Facilitating Transformation

37:10 Entanglement and Attachment: Navigating the Energetic Web

40:50 Unlocking the Connection Between Trauma and Pain

42:07 Exploring the Sacred Anatomy and Its Influence

45:32 The Power of Intuition and Spiritual Practice in Healing

46:17 The Role of Empathy, Intuition, and Spiritual Practice in Healing

01:04:44 Addressing Burnout Among Healers

01:13:39 Embracing Vulnerability and Authenticity in Healing


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02 Apr 2024Sensei Ellison and Campbell - Experiencing Joy in Medicine01:09:15

This podcast episode delves into the principles of contemplative care, highlighting a recent study indicating that people can learn to release joy by honoring their suffering. It features interviews with Chodo Robert Campbell Sensai and Koshin Paley Ellison Sensai, founders of the New York Zen Center for Contemplative Care, discussing their mission to transform healthcare culture through compassion, wisdom, education, and Zen practice. The discussion covers the importance of community, dealing with the three poisons (greed, resentment, and delusion), and the concept of equanimity in facing the suffering inherent in healthcare. It concludes with insights on the preciousness of life, even in the face of death, and how contemplative practices can support healers in reconnecting with their purpose and the joy of their work.

00:00 Unlocking Joy and Overcoming Burnout: A New Study Revealed

00:33 Introducing the Healers Council: A Journey into Wisdom and Healing

01:09 Spotlight on Contemplative Care: Meet the Pioneers

02:08 Exploring the Depths of Contemplative Care with Chodo and Koshin

12:19 The Essence of Precious Life Through the Lens of Contemplative Care

20:07 Fostering Fellowship and Addressing Burnout Among Healers

30:12 Navigating Shame and Regret: A Contemplative Approach

35:08 Exploring the Depths Beyond Shame

36:31 A Zen Approach to Pain and Discomfort

38:10 The Practice of Medicine and Contemplative Skills

39:22 Equanimity in the Face of Life's Dualities

46:19 The Teachability of Contemplative Skills

51:20 Finding Joy and Beauty Amidst Suffering

58:08 Concluding Thoughts on Equanimity and Trust

01:05:28 Dedication and Reflections on Life's Impermanence

https://zencare.org


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02 Apr 2024Kavitha Chinnaiyan MD - Perennial Wisdom Insights on Medicine and Burnout01:35:23

This authentic discussion emphasizes the imperative evolution of modern healthcare to include an integrative approach that valorizes the wisdom of traditional healing practices, the cultivation of noetic skills, and the personal growth of healthcare providers. It underscores the significance of self-awareness, the exploration of one's true calling ('Swadharma'), and the incorporation of emotional and spiritual education alongside conventional medical training. Stressing the limitations of a system overly focused on metrics, it invites a reevaluation of the connections between emotions like shame and fear, and physical health, highlighting the role of thought and behavior patterns in disease manifestation, particularly in heart health. Dr Chennaiyan persuasively argues for a transformative educational and practical framework that embraces holistic health paradigms, including insights from wisdom traditions such as classical Chinese medicine and tantra, viewing the heart not just as an organ, but as a central nexus of potentiality and healing. It advocates for a future where healthcare transcends empirical metrics, nurturing a space that fosters joy, bliss, and comprehensive well-being.

00:00 Exploring the Essence of Swadharma and Personal Dharma

01:42 Introducing the Healers Council: A Journey into Wisdom and Healing

02:48 Meet Dr. Kavitha Chinnaiyan: A Multifaceted Healer

06:45 Bridging Science and Spirituality: The Mission of Modern Healers

20:29 Understanding Suffering and the Path to Resilience

29:41 The Power of Asking the Right Questions: A Deep and Direct Dive into Physician Burnout

39:53 Rekindling Wonder and Confronting Fear: The Path to Empowerment for Healers

50:34 Exploring the Loss of Wonder and Idealism

51:04 The Power of Idealism and Vision in Life

51:57 Understanding Swadharma: Aligning with Your True Calling

52:40 The Consequences of Misaligned Career Choices

57:00 The Impact of Fear and Shame on Professional Healers

01:13:15 Addressing the Crisis of Identity in Healthcare

01:14:43 The Potential and Challenges of Artificial Intelligence in Healthcare

01:23:34 The Importance of Self-Knowledge and Emotional Maturity in Medical Education

01:33:55 Envisioning a Future of Healing: The Heart of Wellness

https://svatantra.institute/


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17 Apr 2024Shaking Medicine: Rediscovering Our Earliest Healing Practices01:20:57

Please join us for this enlivening, entertaining, and inspiring discussion with renowned healers and academicians Hillary and Bradford Keeney PhDs.  Brad has been initiated into several indigenous traditions and is the subject of a book titled "American Shaman." We discuss healing, ecstatic transformation, and embracing a life filled with sacred ecstasy and passion. The Keeneys, with backgrounds in shamanism, psychotherapy, and academia, emphasize the transformative power of ecstatic experiences, heart-focused healing, and the non-traditional paths that lead individuals to become healers in the 21st century. Hillary and Brad share insights into their journeys and practices, illustrating how they infuse their healing work with creativity, spirituality, and celebration of life's vastness. The  Keeneys also challenge contemporary healing practices by advocating for a more joyful, passionate, and mystical approach to life and healing.

00:00 Exploring the Essence of Healing with Sufi Wisdom

01:04 Introducing the Healers Council: A Journey into Wisdom and Healing

01:24 Spotlight on Hillary and Bradford Keeney: Pioneers in Healing and Transformation

07:39 Brad Keeney's Journey: From Science to Shamanism

22:41 Hillary's Path: Zen Buddhism to Ecstatic Healing

34:35 Brad's Encounter with the Kalahari Bushmen: A Turning Point

40:39 Exploring Ecstatic Healing and Awakening

42:57 The Transformative Power of Ecstatic Experiences

44:52 Bridging Traditional Healing with Modern Challenges

47:50 The Journey from Fear to Passion in Healing

50:30 The Role of the Healer: Beyond the Conventional

01:02:31 Addressing Burnout with Ecstasy and Excitation

01:10:21 Integrating Sacred Ecstasy into Modern Healing Practices

01:17:02 Concluding Reflections and Future Directions

http://sacredecstatics.com


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08 May 2024Ancient Wisdom Creating a New Science ... and Joy!: Joe Loizzo MD PhD00:38:47

https://nalandainstitute.org/

Bridging Contemplative Science and Modern Medicine: A Conversation with Dr. Joe Loizzo

This script features an engaging discussion on the integration of contemplative science and wisdom with the modern medical landscape, highlighting the interdisciplinary work of Dr. Joe Loizzo. Joe, an MD, PhD, founder of the Nalanda Institute for Contemplative Science, and a psychotherapist, shares his journey from medical school to studying Tibetan Buddhism and contemplative practices, and how this influenced his approach to health and healing. The conversation delves into the challenges and pitfalls of modern science and healthcare, emphasizing the need for a more human-centered approach that integrates contemplative practices and spirituality. Joe's perspectives on mindfulness, compassion, and the potential for a transformative shift in healthcare, towards a model that values human experience and wisdom alongside scientific advancements, are explored.

00:00 The Journey to Understanding Contemplative Healing

00:47 Introducing the Healers Council and Guest Joe Loizzo MD PhD

03:39 Joe's Unique Path: From Psychiatry to Tibetan Studies

04:12 The Impact of Family and Early Influences on Joe's Career

08:26 Exploring the Intersection of Science, Spirituality, and Healing

17:36 The Challenges and Rewards of Integrating Ancient Wisdom with Modern Medicine

28:08 Contemplation in Action: Bridging Ancient Traditions and Contemporary Life

32:35 Advice for 21st Century Healers: Embracing a Contemplative Approach

35:58 Reflecting on Personal and Professional Growth


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19 May 2024Margaret Wheatley PhD - Who do YOU Chose to be as a Healer?01:07:25

Embracing Leadership and Healing Amidst Global Collapse: A Conversation with Margaret Meg Wheatley

https://margaretwheatley.com

In this episode of the Healers Council, join us for an in-depth conversation with Margaret "Meg" Wheatley, a distinguished advocate for human spirit leadership. Margaret discusses the terrifying and inevitable stage of global collapse, emphasizing the immense suffering and death it brings. As an acclaimed speaker, teacher, and consultant, she underscores the need to invoke people’s inherent generosity, creativity, and community to navigate these challenging times. Meg delves into her experiences and teachings, highlighting the importance of seeing reality clearly, committing to meaningful work, and reclaiming leadership in a way that strengthens relationships and fosters healing. She also touches on her Warriors for the Human Spirit program, which trains individuals to act with compassion and insight in the midst of turmoil. Through a blend of historical perspectives, Buddhist teachings, and practical advice, Meg offers a compelling roadmap for healers and leaders seeking to serve others and create islands of sanity in a collapsing world.

00:00 Navigating the Collapse: Insights and Inspirations

01:20 Introducing Meg Wheatley: A Journey of Leadership and Healing

05:52 The Essence of Wisdom in Healing and Leadership

07:32 Facing Reality: The Challenge of Seeing Things As They Are

10:26 The Healer's Path: Strengthening Connections and Embracing Wholeness

18:58 The Prognosis of Our Civilization: A Call to Warriorship

28:09 Restoring Sanity: Practical Steps for Healers in a Collapsing World

36:19 Leadership and Vulnerability: Embracing Our Role as Healers

38:33 Embracing Organizational Collapse: A New Leadership Paradigm

39:25 The Power of Acceptance in Leadership

41:04 Redefining Purpose Amidst Doom and Gloom

42:07 The Warrior's Perspective: Service Over Optimism

44:09 The Journey of Continuous Self-Improvement

49:23 Healing and Leadership: A Call to Action

59:03 The Essence of Joy in Service and Healing

01:05:54 Concluding Reflections: Hope, Integrity, and the Path Forward


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09 Jul 2024Lee Mason - Integral Theory, A Map of Ourselves and the World01:46:40

Integral Theory: A Map for Understanding Our World, Our Work, and Ourselves

https://practicalintegral.com

In this conversation with Lee Mason, we explore the integration of Integral Theory into healthcare. Lee describes how the Integral map provides an elegant and understandable map that helps us better understand ourselves and our world. By understanding the different perspectives, stages, lines, types, and states, we can navigate the apparent complexities of our work in an increasingly diverse world. The Integral map provides a very practical tool that can become an important foundation in our work as compassionate and wise healers.

00:00 The Evolution of Scientific Perspective: From Bacon to Modern Wisdom

00:42 Introducing the Healers Council: A Journey into Modern Healing Wisdom

01:19 Lee Mason's Integral Healing Journey: From Physical Therapy to Integral Theory

01:47 Exploring Integral Theory: A Comprehensive Framework for Healing

02:38 The Personal Journey: Lee Mason's Path to Integral Healing

10:58 Understanding Integral Theory: Quadrants, Intelligences, and Levels

28:45 Applying Integral Theory to Healthcare: A Holistic Approach

47:27 Levels of Development and Spiral Dynamics in Healing

57:56 The Evolution of Societal Worldviews

59:08 The Birth of Scientific Revolution and Industrialization

01:01:43 Rise of Equality Movements and Woke Culture

01:04:11 Emergence of a New Level of Awareness

01:08:55 Exploring the "Colors" and Values of Different Levels

01:20:44 Understanding Personality Types and Their Impact

01:27:29 The Significance of States in Integral Theory

01:39:44 Applying Integral Theory to Healthcare and Personal Growth


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13 Sep 2024Exploring Spiritual Awakening and Healing with Amrita Baba01:12:50

In this episode of Healers Council, host Jim Duffy introduces his new "co-curator", Peter Fairfield, in a discussion about the fundamental pure nature inherent in all beings. Fairfield interviews Amrita Baba, a Finnish-born spritual teacher with a profound background in spiritual practices spanning Zen Buddhism, Shaiva Tantra, and Kriya Yoga. They delve into Baba's spiritual journey, his method for spiritual enlightenment known as the '13 Bumi Model', and dynamic concentration practices. They also address how recognizing existential confusion and suffering can aid physicians in better understanding and treating their patients. The conversation explores how healers can integrate these spiritual insights to enhance their therapeutic practices.

00:00 Introduction to Basic Nature and Purity

01:54 The Healers Council and New Collaborations

04:08 Introducing Peter Fairfield and His Background

04:24 Interview with Amrita Baba: Early Life and Spiritual Journey

12:14 Amrita Baba's Awakening and Teaching Path

20:39 Understanding the 13 Bumi Model and Rainbow Body

38:05 Personal Healing Journey

38:24 Understanding Trauma in the Astral Body

38:58 Acupuncture and Astral Healing

45:08 Dynamic Concentration Practices

54:01 Spiritual Breakthroughs and Clinical Applications

01:00:24 The Importance of Basic Purity

01:04:36 Future Plans and Teaching

01:08:13 Concluding Thoughts and Resources

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03 Feb 2025Michael Broffman - Discovering the Adventure of Healing01:16:28


In this episode of The Healer's Council, Peter Fairfield engages in a profound discussion with Michael Broffman, a pioneering figure in Western acupuncture. The conversation traverses the realm of medical miracles, holistic healing, and wisdom in medicine. Broffman recounts his journey and apprenticeship under Dr. Lee in Taiwan, where he learned the intricacies of pulse diagnosis and the profound connections between physical and psychological health. The talk explores the spirit of adventure throughout life, from youth to old age, and the implications of stagnation versus growth. They discuss Broffman's experiences with pulse diagnosis innovations, cancer treatment, midwifery, and understanding modern issues such as gender identity within the context of Chinese medicine. The episode is a deep dive into learning, growth, and the spirit of discovery in medical practice.

00:00 Introduction to Modern Medical Miracles

00:39 Exploring the Spirit of Adventure

01:21 Welcome Back to the Healer's Council

01:24 Interview with Peter Fairfield

01:52 Michael Brofman's Journey into Acupuncture

06:59 Early Influences and Education

15:58 Training Under Dr. Lee

33:25 Returning to the United States

36:44 Pulse Diagnosis and the Spirit of Adventure

38:42 The Spirit of Adventure at Any Age

39:21 Insights from Dr. Lee: Lifelong Learning

40:03 Challenges in Acupuncture Education

41:36 Understanding Pulse Diagnosis

43:30 Exploring Anxiety and Disease

44:49 The Financial Viability of Deep Practice

49:16 Innovations in Pulse Training

58:12 The Intersection of Midwifery and Oncology

01:01:38 Successes and Challenges in Cancer Treatment

01:03:32 The Role of Dogs in Cancer Detection

01:08:16 Current Projects and Future Directions

01:09:49 Controversial Topics in Chinese Medicine

01:15:09 Concluding Thoughts and Future Conversations




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