The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming (Bruce C. E. Fleming, Dr. Joy Fleming)

1 Timothy 2:13-15 How Eve and Paul were alike, by Bruce C. E. Fleming

The focus of this episode is: 1 Timothy 2:13-15 How Eve and Paul were alike

“What’s this Dad?” I asked picking up the flat and pointed piece of chipped stone. “That’s an arrowhead son,” he replied. “What’s it doing here, Dad?” “Ahh. That’s a great question!”

“What’s this doing here?” is what many ask when they come across the verses that are numbered as 1 Timothy 2:13-15. They ask, “Why do we find these words in this place?” One could say we have several figurative arrowheads to consider in these verses.

- Why does Paul here bring up the Garden of Eden, and Adam and Eve?

- Did they have something to do with the wayward women leaders Timothy was correcting in Ephesus? What?

- Where in the text does the reference to Eden end in these verses?

- Why does Paul bring up the birth of The Child in verse 15?

- And who are “they” at the end of verse 15b?

These questions can all be answered. We can answer them now because we have asked the right questions.

We can answer them because we have looked at the context and the main actions Paul is recommending in 1 Timothy 2:8 to 3:16. We can answer them because we are not off-the-track wandering in the weeds looking for the answers to the wrong questions, which I’m afraid so many have done.

Let’s look at the literary structure of the passage as Paul presented these ideas. As we do we see where verses 13-15 belong in the development of Paul’s thought. He has not written a linear progression of ideas in a 1, 2, 3 manner. He has written using a rainbow pattern of parallel ideas. The main idea is in the middle. On either side are ideas that echo and complete each other.

Because verse 9 has no verb and begins with “likewise” we have to start back in verse 8. Then come verses 9-15 which are Paul’s focused advice about correcting-in-order-to-restore-to-ministry the subgroup of wayward women overseers in Ephesus.

In verse 8 Paul gives a command to Timothy. He wishes for the wayward men overseers to preach and pray in public worship with holy hands (not tainted by sin) with sound doctrine, which is not a source of angry disputing.

In verses 9, 10 and 12, Paul gives a parallel command to Timothy. He wishes for the wayward women overseers to preach and pray in public worship with proper outward dress and behavior.

In verse 11 Paul makes use of this passage’s only imperative verb where he says, Let these women learn! as good students paying attention.

Then, Paul opens a parenthesis in verses 13-15a before he returns in 15b to advice that parallels his earlier advice. That advice concerned the formerly wayward women overseers Timothy was to retrain and restore to ministry. Verses 13-15a serve as a digression. In them Paul justifies the course of action he is recommending. He explains why he is prescribing such gentle correction for them.

Remember, with the wayward leaders Hymenaeus and Alexander back in 1 Timothy 1:20, Paul turned them over to Satan to be taught not to blaspheme. But with these women wayward overseers he is recommending a very different kind of teaching. They are not being handed over to Satan to be taught. They are to be allowed to learn and get retrained as good students from Timothy himself, or by Priscilla or by other faithful overseers in the church at  Ephesus.

Here’s my paraphrase of verses 13-15a in the context of verses 2:11 to 3:1

11Let the women overseers who were wayward learn in quietness and with all studiousness. 12I am not permitting them to teach men in an incorrect way, but to be retrained in quietness.

13Why? For, God formed the two in the Garden, Adam and then Eve 14and Adam was a first-degree eater. He was not deceived but sinned on purpose. But Eve was deceived and as a second-degree sinner, to that degree, she became a transgressor.

15But she, Eve, would be saved through the birth of The Child who was to come, as will the women you are retraining if they persevere in faith, love, sanctification and self-control.

3:1“Faithful is Jesus the Logos, the Word,” so if any one of those you are correcting aspires to oversight, that woman or that man desires a good work!

Like Paul, like Eve

Why? The Gospel of Mark recounts how Jesus’ disciples were slow to learn the lesson of the multiplied loaves. First, Jesus fed the 5,000 from a few loaves and some fish (Mark 6:35-44). A second time, Jesus multiplied a handful of food into enough for four thousand people (Mark 8:1-9). A little while later, Jesus and his disciples found themselves in a boat with just one loaf of bread. The disciples were hungry and began to worry. Oh, what could they do in these dire straits?

Carefully, Jesus talked to them about their cares and about their blindness to His power to provide for them again and again. He reminded them of all that had happened. Yet they still didn’t understand (Mark 8:14-21). They needed to be told again.

In similar fashion, just in case his message has not been fully understood, Paul adds several more verses in 1 Timothy 2. He wants to make sure his instructions about the correction of the errant women teachers are clear.

Why does he recommend retraining for these women? In verses 13-15a, Paul calls attention to relevant details from the Garden of Eden.

Because “intent” counts. Paul starts verse 13 with the conjunction “for” in Greek. He gives a reason “for” what he has just recommended. Then, he refers to Genesis 3. In the Garden of Eden there were two kinds of sinners. And in Ephesus, where Timothy was, there were two kinds of sinners:

1. sinners who were deceived and sinned, and

2. sinners who knowingly and defiantly sinned.

In verse 13, Paul draws a clear distinction between the first man and the first woman. By referring to their two distinct creations, he focuses attention on them as two distinct individuals.

13For Adam first was formed, then Eve.

The lesson of verse 13 isn’t who was first, but that there were two individuals created in the beginning – first one, then the other. Paul further distinguishes between these two by using the names, “Adam” and “Eve.”

The use of these names in their historical setting is strikingly anachronistic. The woman was not called by the name “Eve” until Genesis 3:20. Yet, Paul uses that name referring to moments in history (Gen 2) that occurred before she was known as Eve.

Similarly, the name “Adam” did not refer only-to-the-man at the point in time referred to by Paul in 1 Timothy 2:13. The name “Adam” could refer to them both (Genesis 5:2 – “He called their name Adam”). The man took the name “Adam” for himself, only after God judged him. Breathtakingly, the man rebelled one more time after God spoke to him in Genesis 3:17-19. This was another act of rebellion and self-rule, as opposed to submission to being ruled by the Creator.

The man had named the animals who were subordinate to him in the Garden of Eden. He used the naming formula and called them their names. This is similar to the naming formula used today when the Queen or King of England says, “I dub you Sir So and So.” The first chance the man had to respond positively to God’s speeches to the serpent, to the woman and to him, he responded negatively! He called the woman a name using the naming formula he used for the animals. He presumed to rule over her by naming her and treating her like just another one of the animals.

How was she to respond to that? God was her Creator. God alone was her ruler. God was their Ruler. What to do with a husband who presumed to usurp God’s role by ruling over her in this way?

Two kinds of eaters. This is important to understand. In 1 Timothy 2:14, after distinguishing clearly between the first two individuals at Creation, Paul focuses on why and how each individual sinned.

While it is clear that each one in the Garden is disobedient to God’s command, the following differences exist between them after the Attack by the serpent tempter:

1. The man was not deceived. He sins deliberately and knowingly (Gen 3:12).

2. The woman was deceived and only then does she sin (Gen 3:13).

In the Garden, God takes these differences into account when imposing judgment on the serpent tempter, on the woman and on the man. God imposes a curse on the serpent. The Hebrew word “curse” is used.

Using words in a way parallel to his words to the serpent tempter, God imposes a curse on the soil. This curse is “because of” the man (Genesis 3:17). The Hebrew word for “curse” again is used. It is only used these two times.

No “curse” is imposed on the man or on the women. Significantly, no curse is imposed because of the woman as had occurred because of the man. In Genesis 3, the Hebrew word “curse” only occurs in reference to the man (and the serpent tempter).

There is something very different between the man’s motives and actions. There is something very different in the way God treats the one and the other of these two humans in Eden.

How does Paul know the woman is deceived? In Genesis 3:13, the woman says so, in an accurate admission to God of her wrongdoing. In 1 Timothy 2:14, Paul notes that the man is a different kind of sinner. He “wasn’t deceived.” This distinction drawn between the two sinners is a distinction for Timothy to follow in correcting those who had gone astray in Ephesus.

In 1 Timothy chapter 1, Paul referred to how God had judged him gently. Discerning Paul’s intent, God dealt gently with him, and even put him into ministry because he had acted ignorantly and in disbelief (1:12).

In modern-day courts, even murderers are judged differently, according to their intent. There is “murder in the first degree” for those who kill on purpose, or “with malice aforethought.” And there is “murder in the second degree,” or “manslaughter,” for those who kill but not with malicious advance planning.

“Murder one” receives the harshest punishment. Manslaughter merits a lighter sentence.

Paul had been a second-degree sinner. The way God dealt with him as a second-degree sinner is the way he wants Timothy to deal with those at Ephesus who also sinned in the second degree. The women described in 1 Timothy 2:9b and 12 are to be treated like Eve, and like Paul, who had not sinned on purpose. He is to let them learn and emphatically so.

To underline this, in verses 13 and 14, Paul refers to the two sinners in the Garden in a different order from when each one sinned. If Paul had been preoccupied only with details of timing in Eden, he would have referred first to the woman and then to the man. Instead, he twice refers first to Adam, who sinned on purpose.

Here is my paraphrase of verses 13-14 (italics added):

13For, God formed the two in the Garden, Adam and then Eve

14and Adam was not deceived, but Eve was deceived,

  and to that degree became a transgressor.

Don’t be deceived! Some people charge that since the first woman was deceived in the Garden, all women are more easily deceived than all men! But Genesis does not teach this. Neither does Paul.

Even though the man and the woman were co-regents over the earth by the Creator’s decree (Genesis 1:27-30), some people claim that the timing in the creations of the man and the woman makes the man superior to the woman in some way.

Indeed, this was the position held by rabbis at the time of Paul. They thought that a theological consequence could be discerned behind the sequence of events in the Garden. C. K. Barrett (Pastoral Epistles, p. 56) quotes their midrash: “Adam was first in creation, Eve [first] in sin.”

Surprisingly, John Calvin held to this position. Even so, he found himself compelled to argue against it, admitting (Commentaries, 21) that any theological conclusions based on the “order of creation, appears not to be a very strong argument in favor of her subjection; for John the Baptist was before Christ in the order of time, and yet was greatly inferior in rank.”

Verse 15a – Closing thoughts on Eden.

It may seem tiresome to work our way over one interpretive “bump” after another. But as every good road builder knows, it is important to keep leveling the roadbed until it becomes flat and serviceable for all those who follow.

In verse 15a, there is one more noticeable bump that needs to be smoothed out before the entire passage in 1 Timothy 2 can be clearly understood. It has to do with Paul’s reference in Greek to “the Childbearing.” According to the Greek in the first part of verse 15, Paul writes:

15aBut she will be saved through the Childbearing…

The singular pronoun – “she” – of verse 15a refers to the woman who is discussed in verses 13-14 just before it. “She” is Eve!

“The Childbearing” of Eve refers to the future birth, future for Eve, of the promised Child. Mary was the physical mother of Jesus, but Eve was his ancestor. Eve’s “childbearing” resulted in the eventual “childbearing” of Jesus.

The word “childbearing” is a collective singular noun, a single word packed with the promise of many. This way of speaking may seem awkward to the modern reader. But it is used twice in Genesis 3 when God first gives the promise of a Savior.

In Genesis 3:15, God gives the menacing promise to the serpent that the “seed” or “offspring” of the woman will crush his head. The word “seed” is a collective singular noun.

In the Hebrew wording of Genesis 3:16, Line 1, God promises the woman that she will have multiplied “conception.” The word “conception” is also a collective singular noun.

Looking back at the Garden of Eden from the perspective of history, one can identify the promised “seed” of verse 15, and the “conception” of verse 16, as Jesus. Paul’s use of the collective singular noun – “the Childbearing” – in 1 Timothy 2:15a in the context of a discussion on the Garden of Eden brings to mind Eve’s promised offspring. This would have been recognized immediately by Timothy and the Jewish Christians at Ephesus, as a reference to the promised One, the Messiah.

Eve would be eternally saved through her forward-looking faith in the coming birth of the Child. The women in Ephesus are saved through their faith in this same Child as well.

Each one of us today faces the question of this Child. What will we do with Jesus?

- Because in the Garden of Eden back in the beginning there had been an attack,

- because the man and the woman were now mortal and hiding from God,

- because their perfect union with God had been ruptured, God promised the certain conception of the seed of the woman.

Why would God promise this? Why would God bother to do so?

We learn over and over again in God’s revelation in the Bible that God sent Jesus into the world because we need a Savior who will die in our place. When we ask God to forgive us and to send the Holy Spirit into our heart in new birth and the start of everlasting spiritual life, it is like we have one foot already placed firmly in heaven. We have the assurance repeated over and over again in the Bible that when we die God will pull up that other foot too. We instantly will be with Jesus firmly standing in heaven.

The best Bible verse on this is that other 3:16 verse. In the Old Testament, in Genesis 3:16, God promised Eve that truly she would have conception of the Child who would crush Satan’s head. In the New Testament, in John 3:16 we have this promise:

For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life.

Once again, we see the love of God reaching out to us. We see God helping us return back to Eden in a perfect relationship with God with no break to occur ever again.

This complete summary of Eve’s situation in 1 Timothy 2:13-15a – as a deceived sinner in the 2nd degree, who is going to be saved because she places her faith in the coming Child – allows Paul to move on to a summation of his instructions to Timothy. He does this in the second half of verse 15 in verse 15b.

In verse 15b, Paul changes subjects. He moves on from a singular subject, “she,” to a plural subject, “they.” If the first half of verse 15, verse 15a, had been counted as the end of verse 14 we could have seen this more clearly. Perhaps it is best to think of 2:15b as a new verse, or verse 16.

In these words with a plural subject, Paul encourages once again the women who are learning, per his command in verse 11, to follow the wholesome pattern of those who have been right-living overseers all along, as he has described them in verses 9a, and 10.

He names four aspects of right living and teaching that must be evident in their reformed lives:

15bif they remain in faith, and love, and sanctification with all seriousness.

The good news is that God gives John 3:16 to us today.  It is good news that was promised back in the Garden of Eden. It is good news that actually took place as Jesus hung on the cross and died for our sins, rose again, ascended into heaven and sent the Holy Spirit to live in the hearts of all who believe in Him and receive His gift of payment for our sins.

Does that include you? If “Yes” is your answer, then I rejoice with you!

Does that include you? If “Not yet” is your situation then I encourage you to pray to Jesus right away. Ask His forgiveness. Ask to be born again and for the Holy Spirit to come live in your heart. Like Eve, you too can be saved through the birth of The Child!

LINKS

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

In the Garden the man listens to the words of the serpent tempter. And the man makes the intent and actions of Satan his own. He too rebels against God.

Step by step he moves away from God and toward Satan! 

• Has Satan just thrown God’s words into question in 3:1? Apparently the man does too.
• Does the man look with respect on the woman’s defense of God’s words reported in 3:2? We don’t read that he joins her in correcting the word of the serpent tempter.
• Does he respect God’s warning against eating resulting in punishment? He apparently believes the serpent enough who lies and says “You will not surely die” according to 3:4.
• Doesn’t he already know about good? God had named the Tree the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. Does he want extra knowledge, to know evil?

And so, he eats the forbidden fruit.

When God judges the three at the Tree, God groups the man together with Satan in his words of judgment. God treats the woman apart from these two rebels because she doesn’t rebel on purpose. She disobeys only after being deceived.

God makes six points in addressing the serpent. And then God uses those same six points and exact wording, even to the repetition of sounds when he addresses the man. The way this passage is written out in Hebrew adds to the meaning of the words that are used. This repeated pattern of six common elements ties the two of them together in God’s evaluation of their intent and acts.

GO DEEPER

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

Joanne has "a wonderful story on how God uses the Internet!" And hers is a wonderful story how she volunteered to help spread the Tru316 Message.

• She set up the @Tru316 YouTube Channel. 
• She volunteered to write the "BSF style" Study Guides for the chapters in The Eden Book Series.
• She co-hosted Seasons 6-9 of The Eden Podcast
• She wrote the Study Guides for Dr. Joy Fleming's foundational book Man and Woman in Biblical Unity, Theology from Genesis 2-3.
• She is one of the co-hosts on the Interview episodes of Seasons 12-13 of The Eden Podcast

Any wonder that we have named her to receive The Tru316 Medallion Award for the celebrations of 3/16 Day 2024 on March 16 in Minneapolis! 

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

Here's my paraphrase of 1 Timothy 2:8-12 from the Greek:

(8) Timothy, I wish for the men to pray and prophesy correctly while leading worship, lifting up holy hands without causing anger and disputing!

(9) Likewise, I wish the women who pray and prophesy leading worship to adorn themselves with modest apparel that promotes self-control - not with improper hair plaiting, along with its gold and pearls, and costly clothing - (10) Women preaching godliness are adorned by their good works.

(11) Let those women overseers who were wayward learn in quietness and with all studiousness as good students. (12) I am not permitting them to teach men in an incorrect way, but to learn in quietness.

Each Greek word is analyzed in the transcript of the Episode. 

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 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

This first marriage, and the description of marriages to come, was the ideal pattern for all men and women to follow, a pattern with four points:

1. Each member of the union to be, separately, first knows God personally.
2. The man (not the woman) leaves his birth family and together with his wife they establish a new family unit. His primary allegiance is no longer to his parents but to her.
3. When the man leaves his parents to join his wife, his parents and all society is put on notice that here is a new family unit.
4. Because they are joined together in the presence of God, the church, the body of believers, recognizes their new family unit.

This is God's ideal for us. Genesis 2:25 is the high point of the passage of Genesis 2-3. They were naked before each other and unashamed before God.

GO DEEPER

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

The meaning of Ephesians 5:22 is discovered in the matrix it is found in. Briefly, Paul turns to the relationship of married Spirit-filled believers to demonstrate how all members of the church build up one another.

Christian wives submit to the teaching and admonition they receive from their Spirit-filled husbands. And reciprocally, Christian husbands submit to the teaching and admonition they receive from their Spirit-filled wives.

The discussion in this Episode draws from the book Beyond Eden, Ephesians 5:15-6:9.

 

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 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

Genesis 3:16 had been mistranslated. Many harmful misconceptions had arisen. Many harmful practices had been propagated.

In her research Joy opens up the 7-point chiasm in Genesis 2-3 and especially the patterns related to Genesis 3:16. It turns out that God didn't curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.

You can discover these insights and more in her books available from Tru316.com/trubooks

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

Since God didn’t limit from ministry in any way, it should come as no surprise that many women participated in ministry in the early church. Others have described well their work but these women deserve mention once more.

With Paul. Paul had many women co-laborers in public ministry. A third of those persons listed as ministering in Rome in Romans 16 were women. In Corinth and Ephesus, Paul worked openly and fruitfully with Priscilla, an accomplished theologian, teacher and church planter. In no place did Paul restrict women from use of any spiritual gift in the church, in the home, or in society. 

In order to shake out the cobwebs of the proposal from the legalists who wanted to limit women in ministry, it is helpful to review what the Old and New Testaments teach about women in ministry. Paul quoted their proposal in 1 Corinthians 14 verses 34-35 and then refuted their ideas in the very next verses.

Old Testament. In the Old Testament, a number of women were great judges, prophets and queens. Miriam was one of the three great leaders of Israel during the Exodus (Micah 6:4). She sang the great song of celebration after the defeat of Pharoah’s army. 

The prophet Hulda’s threefold “Thus says the Lord!” led to a great revival (2 Kings 22:13-20). Judge Deborah was a leader in Israel (Judges 4:4-5; 5:1-2). 

Esther became queen for “such a time a this” (Esther 4:14). Her leadership resulted in many Gentiles coming to faith in God (8:17). She was recognized for her prudence and judgment and was vested with authority (9:11-12, 29-32).

Hebrew pronouns, which are more gender precise than they are in English, showed that women were told in the Psalms and in Isaiah to proclaim the Word of God. 

Kroeger and Kroeger (p. 13) pointed out: "Psalm 68:11: The Lord gives the Word. Great is the host of women who proclaim it. Isa 40:9: O woman who is herald of good tidings in Zion, lift up your voice with strength, O woman who is herald of good tidings to Jerusalem, lift it up, fear not; say to the cities of Judah, ‘Behold your God.’”

During the Old Testament period only the few Israelites who were descendants of Levi were allowed to be priests (Exodus 29:9, 40:15). Even those who were Levites had to disqualify themselves if they had a blemish or open wound of any kind (Leviticus 21:17-24). This was part of the symbolism embodied in the sacrificial system of the Tabernacle.

Since women have regular menstrual periods, they were freed from duty as priests. This was in order to maintain the symbolism that the only blood in the Tabernacle or the Temple would be the blood of the sacrifice (Leviticus 10:1-3; 15:31-33; cf. 16:1-4, 17). This blood of the sacrifice represented Christ’s coming sacrifice in which his blood would cover sins (Romans 3:25). No other blood was allowed.

This restriction due to the symbolism of the blood of the lamb was similar to the restriction placed on fire because of the symbolic importance of the fire used to light the sacrifice on the altar. Aaron’s eldest sons presented unacceptable fire to the Lord and were put to death (!) for doing so (Leviticus 9:23-10:2). All this was done to maintain the purity and the clarity of the spiritual meaning of these symbols.

New Testament. Jesus replaced the symbolism of the Old Testament period with the real thing. Instructive symbolism was no longer needed. The rituals that pointed to the sacrifice of Jesus were no longer needed. Instead people could clearly point to Jesus dying for our sins on the cross. We all, each one of us, now can repent of our sins and invite Christ to send the Holy Spirit into our hearts. When we do so we are, to use Jesus’ words, born again. 

In the New Testament, with restrictions due to symbolism no longer necessary, both women and men are called priests and kings (Rev 1:6), as well as prophets and apostles. Peter taught (1 Pet 2:5, 9) that all believers are part of a holy priesthood. All believers offer up spiritual sacrifices and are to proclaim the praises of God.

Some may ask, “Why wasn’t at least one of the twelve disciples a woman?” Discreet men of that time had only males as close companions if they wanted to remain free from the innuendo and accusations of outsiders. Jesus was a male and so he traveled with other males in his immediate group. 

But outside of his immediate companions, were a number of women who traveled with Jesus. In Luke, women learn and minister along with the twelve disciples (Luke 8:2-3; 10:38-42; 13:10-11; etc.). 

We know the names of the twelve disciples. The names of a number of women are known as well. They are Mary and Martha of Bethany, plus Mary Magdalene, Salome, Johanna, Susanna and Mary the mother of Jesus.

In Acts 1:13-15; 2:1-4, Luke records that a number of women were in the Upper Room on the day of Pentecost. They were part of the 120 who were anointed by the tongues of fire of the Holy Spirit and then went out proclaiming the Gospel in public. Peter explained in Acts 2:17-18 that this had been foretold by the prophet Joel.

‘And it shall come to pass in the last days,’ says God. ‘That I will pour out my Spirit on all flesh; Your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, Your young men shall see visions, Your old men shall dream dreams. And on my menservants and on my maidservants I will pour out my Spirit in those days; And they shall prophesy.’

Luke further records in Acts that a number of women were in the forefront of public ministry. In the Epistles, women were called to minister in every way. The Kroegers (24, 90-92) summed up the situation as follows in this extended quotation:

The New Testament teaches that individual members, along with their gifts and talents, are God’s gift to the church (1 Cor 12:4-11; Eph 4:11-13). There are many gifts …, (Rom 12:4-8). Among these gifts are those of teaching and administration. No limitation with respect to gender is indicated (Acts 2:17-18; 1 Cor 12:28). Persons endowed with the gift of teaching are expected to develop this potential to the glory of God … (Rom 12:7-8).

Continuing the quote from the Kroegers: "… Romans 16:1-2 speaks of Phoebe as a deacon (or minister) of the congregation at Cenchrea, and she is also called a prostates (overseer, guardian, protector). A verbal form drawn from the same stem … is used also in the New Testament at 1 Timothy 5:17 for elders who “preside” (or rule) well, and at Romans 12:8 (rule) and 1 Thessalonians 5:12 (hold authority over).” … Junia is called a noteworthy apostle (Rom 16:7). Paul mentions several women, including Priscilla, as “fellow laborers” and asks that Christians be subject to such as these (Phil 4:2-3; Rom 16:3-4, 6, 12; 1 Cor 16:16, 19). A number of Christian women appear to have presided over churches which met in their homes (Acts 12:12; Acts 16:13-15, and verse 40; Rom 16:3-5; 1 Cor 1:11; 16:19; Col 4:15; 2 John).

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Have you listened to Seasons 1-4 of The Eden Podcast?

Season 1 is on Genesis 2-3, 8 episodes. This has the important episodes 1 and 7 on 3:16.

Season 2 is on Ephesians 5-6, 6 episodes. 

Season 3 is on 1 Timothy 2-3. 

Season 4 is on 1 Corinthians 11 and 14 and 1 Peter 3. 

You can start listening at TheEdenPodcast.com.

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

Have you seen the literary patterns that speak to us in Ephesians 5:15-6:9? They prevent us from taking these verses out of context.

Paul teaches that believers are to be mutually building up one another. They are to teach and correct one another. And they are to submit themselves to what they are receiving fro one another. This is a HORIZONTAL and RECIPROCAL SUBMISSION that is world's away from the vertical submission many people teach about these verses.

Christian wives and husbands serve as an excellent example of this functional unity in Christ. These verses are not primarily about marriage. Rather, they illustrate how to be being filled with the Spirit (5:18b). They give us a picture of the unity of the body of Christ that is the central idea of this passage (5:31-32).

Go Deeper? Please get a copy of Beyond Eden, Ephesians 5:15-6:9 -- The Great Mystery Revealed: Mutually Submitting in Christ. It is available at Tru316.com/trubooks. Here's the link from that page: https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Eden-Ephesians-5-6-Submitting/dp/0972575936?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1699306961&sr=1-1-catcorr&linkCode=sl1&tag=trubooks-20&linkId=9eba1907d83f278d8773a8640cc38f97&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl   

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

First she read Dr. Joy Fleming's book on Eden. Eventually she helped get the message out to tens of thousands.

The opportunity is there for you to make an outsized impact on getting the message of God's Word to the world.

Become a Tru Partner. Give monthly, pray regularly, volunteer strategically.

Start here: Tru316.com/partner

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

Sadly, a trauma victim can be re-traumatized by an ill-informed people helper. Twisted beliefs based on twisted understandings of mistranslated key passages on women and men cause great harm. But with study they can be de-weaponized and bring great healing! On this episode of The Eden Podcast, author and licensed counselor Cecile Croissant presents how to be truly safe and helpful to victims. 

The 4 books in The Eden Book Series provide readers with a safe and de-weaponized understanding of the "clobber passages." Go to Tru316.com/trubooks.

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

Jeanna Smiley of Florida has been one of our Tru School students and has taken The Eden Workshop on Genesis 2-3, plus several more. She is a former pastor’s wife and the mother of five sons and one daughter. As a stay-at-home mom, she homeschooled her children through high school. For 30 years, she followed what she calls “the harmful teachings” of a wayward teacher but has been attending more solidly Bible-based churches recently. Says she, "I found the Tru316 Message and the teaching of the Workshops to be freeing!"

You may enroll in an upcoming Workshop here: www.Tru316.com/workshop

This is the first of our Workshop Wednesday Interviews on Season 12 of The Eden Podcast. On Wednesdays we learn the Stories of women and men who have enrolled in The Eden Workshop on Genesis 2-3 or in one of the three other Tru School Eden Workshops on the key passages on women and men.  These Zoom sessions use as their workbooks the four volumes in The Eden Book Series by Bruce C. E. Fleming starting with The Book of Eden, Genesis 2-3.

Make sure to dig into past seasons on The Eden Podcast that feature teaching on Genesis 2-3, Ephesians 5-6, 1 Timothy 2-3 and 1 Corinthians 11 & 1 and 1 Peter 3. We've seen that once Genesis 3:16 is made clear all the other passages become clear!

You can get The Eden Book Series with the contents of these episodes in book form WITH STUDY GUIDES TOO! Available on Amazon starting with The Book of Eden, Genesis 2-3 by Bruce C. E. Fleming

More? Visit www.Tru316.com the website of the Tru316 Foundation which is the home of The Eden Podcast.

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

Sherry has STORIES! 

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

Jamil Hamil from SE Oklahoma is a student of the Tru School Workshops on Women and Men. Raised in a legalistic and patriarchal church she was restricted from ministry because she was a woman.

Baptized three times she earnestly loved God and sought to love and serve. She did all the crafts with the kids at church. Then she facilitated discussions in the women's ministry. Her insights often made the Bible more real to them.

But her faith tradition prevented her from using her spiritual gifts to serve the Body of Christ. In Book 3 in The Eden Book Series called Back to Eden on 1 Timothy 2-3 we reveal that Paul encouraged women and men to teach and use all of their gifts!

Like to go deeper? ENROLL NOW to be part of the next Tru School two-week cohort, The Eden Workshop on Genesis 2-3. Here's that link: www.Tru316.com/workshop

The Tru316 Foundation(www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too.

Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner HERE: www.Tru316.com/partner

For just $3.16/month or more our Tru Partners are spreading the Word that God didn't curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way. Click www.Tru316.com/partner

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

Does the Bible prohibit women from teaching men in church? Bothered by 1 Timothy 2:12? Don't be. It turns out that verse 12 is only the second half of a long sentence that starts with verse 11. And these verses are part of a major command Paul gave to Timothy on how to retrain the subgroup of overseers in Ephesus who had gone astray. 

All this and more is covered in the Back to Eden Workshop on 1 Timothy 2-3! Jean and Mimi are both trainers in our Tru School program and you can go through a 2-week long workshop with them along with author and scholar Rev. Bruce C. E. Fleming.

Go deeper! Join the next Workshop offered by Tru School here: Tru316.com/workshop.  

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 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

The positive message of Eden? It is time to spread the good news to our children and youth beginning with the launch of The Eden Schoolhouse Network (ESN). Local churches and concerned individuals are stepping up to make a difference! Would you like to see an Eden Family Schoolhouse, with Tru316 inside, be established in your area? If so, contact Bruce@Tru316.com. 

Many ministries are spreading the positive message of John 3:16, of salvation by faith, through their publications and outreach programs. Now it is time to focus on spreading the positive message of Genesis 3:16 too! 

To launch an Eden Family Schoolhouse we are looking for like-minded churches and individuals. Do you have two rooms (one for 12 children for K-2 and the other for 12 more children for 3-4) available during the daytime hours of the week? 

Let’s talk! Email us today. Bruce@Tru316.com. Don’t assume others will do it. Do it yourself. We’re looking for God to raise up volunteer teams composed of prayer team coordinators, family recruiters and more.

Joy Fleming, PhD, PsyD, and Rev. Bruce C. E. Fleming, DEA, have been involved in the successful startup and development of a graduate seminary overseas and a discipleship Christian high school in the United States. They are co-founders of the Tru316 Foundation (Tru316.com), which is a 501(c)(3) private operating foundation headquartered in Minneapolis, Minnesota. Contact us today about how you can help raise up an Eden Family Schoolhouse! For an information package, contact Bruce@Tru316.com. 

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

KEY IDEA. The husbands first referred to in 1 Peter 3:1 need to be "won" to Christ. Then in verse 7 Peter begins with the Greek word for "Likewise." Their wives needed to be won to Christ as well.

There has been much speculation about the meaning of these verses. Most of it misses the mark. Much of it espouses incorrrect theology. It is time to recognize this is simply the longest passage on unequally yoked spouses in the Epistles.

The book Because of Eden is Book 4 in The Eden Book Series. Get a copy today!

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 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

Cook's helper or Partner? In Genesis 2, when God creates the woman, she is described in relation to the man. In two Hebrew words packed full of meaning, ‘ezer kenegdo, God describes how the two are designed to go together. They are made for each other, just hours apart. Once together, they are to be a resourceful and satisfied pair, at home together in Eden.

Modern language versions of the Bible translate these two Hebrew words in confusing and contradictory ways. But there really is no cause for confusion. The two words in Genesis 2:18 are not that hard to translate.

An ‘ezer kenegdo is someone who is equal, a counterpart, one who works together with another as they help each other through sharing their strengths.

GO DEEPER!

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

Beth is an enthusiastic supporter of Aggie students in College Station, Texas! She is also an enthusiastic student in our Tru School Workshops and was one of the first to complete all 4!

1. The Eden Workshop on Genesis 2-3
2. The Beyond Eden Workshop on Ephesians 5-6
3. The Back to Eden Workshop on 1 Timothy 2-3
4. The Because of Eden Workshop on 1 Corinthians 11 & 14 and 1 Peter 3!

Beth has done weekly Bible studies using Joy and Bruce’s many books on women and men in the light of Eden and enthusiastically displays her collection. And her downhome wisdom has enriched many others along the way as she recounts stories of how she and her husband apply what she is learning. 

Hear The Both Thomas Story on this episode of The Eden Podcast!

Beth Thomas is a Certified General Appraiser specializing in land and special purpose institutional real estate valuation. She has worked in several major fields within Real Estate for 35 years. She has been married 40 years, with five grown children and three grandsons.

Her desire to understand the true meanings of the Bible and thus how to live and love well because of truly understanding God’s written word were born out of her own painful experiences with church leaders where scriptures were badly interpreted to the point that the “Gospel” was not Good News at all.  And yet, Jesus kept drawing her back to the Bible with that beautiful promise that “Jesus (really) is the Way, Truth & Life and that the Truth (really) will set us free!”  

In her professional life, research is the backbone of valuation. “Just the Facts, Ma’am.” (Reference: The old Dragnet TV series quote). Determined to know what the Truth is, even if she didn’t like it, she applied her research skills for the past 20 years to learn how to learn what the Bible meant to tell us. That is why she is ecstatic about the important research work made clear in The Eden Podcast series.

Would you like to go deeper studying the Tru316 Message? ENROLL NOW to be part of the next Tru School two-week cohort, The Eden Workshop on Genesis 2-3. Here's that link: www.Tru316.com/workshop

The Tru316 Foundation(www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too.

Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner HERE: www.Tru316.com/partner

For just $3.16/month or more our Tru Partners are spreading the Word that God didn't curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way. Click www.Tru316.com/partner

 

 

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

In Ephesians 5:22-32 the unity of believers in one body with Christ is illustrated in the three sections: (1) verses 22-24, (2) verses 25-27 and (3) 28-32. The introductory verses are 19a and 21. The summary verse is 32.

in verse 25b, two main ideas are grouped together in the center of the linchpin. They are: “As Christ loved” and “as Christ gave of himself.” 

Believers in Christ are to love and give of ourselves one to another. This is how we walk in the Spirit, submitting reciprocally one-to-another. 

In verse 32, Paul confirms this in an “all of the above” statement. What was once a mystery, formerly unknown, has been clarified by verses 22-31. In verse 32 Paul writes, “This is a great mystery, that is now revealed. It has to do with Christ and the church.”

Although many claim that the last half of Ephesians 5 is not about the church but is all about marriage, the clear summary statement of verse 32 should redirect them onto the right track. It is about the church. Ephesians 5:21-32 is all about believers caring for one another, submitting reciprocally, in the church of Christ.

But wait! There’s more! Paul balances out verses 22-31 on the one side of verse 32 with all of the material in 5:33 to 6:9 on the other side of 5:32. Because of the chapter break after verse 33 we usually don’t see that Paul has put together one very large chiastic parallel pattern with three sections on each side of verse 32. 

On the one side of this giant rainbow pattern going up to verse 32 are the three “as Christ” examples. On the other side going down after verse 32 is a three-part pattern from life in the family at the time of Paul.

GO DEEPER!

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

God speaks to each of the two rebels, the serpent tempter and the man, using a six-point parallel pattern.

The elements of this pattern are completely absent in God's words to the woman. She is treated differently. Why?

GO DEEPER.

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

This is a BONUS Episode of The Eden Podcast. Recently, our church welcomed Dr. Jeannine Brown to our pulpit. She is a New Testament professor and a member of the Committee on Bible Translation for the NIV. This audio picks up in the middle of the morning service as our pastor introduces Dr. Jeannine Brown.

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

Recorded LIVE at the Tru316 Foundation Launch Event in Minneapolis. What is the Tru316 Message? Learn the backstory in this Founder's Address by Dr. Joy Fleming. 

At the end of Dr. Joy Fleming's address we add two Tru Stories of the life changing impact of the work of the Tru316 Foundation.

Get involved? Click Tru316.com/partner

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

Most people look to these verses for teaching on headship of the male and submission by the female. These ideas are not taught here, nor in any of the 7 key passages on women and men related to Genesis 3:16.

Get a copy of the book Beyond Eden, Ephesians 5-6 and follow along in these episodes as we discuss the questions in the Study Guides that accompany each chapter! You can get a kindle or paperback copy at this link: https://amzn.to/36QTioV 

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

In one episode what God did and said in Eden vs what others have been saying about Eden. The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

His daughter showed him biblical theology on women and men that STUNNED him. This is Dr. Bill Rudd's Story on The Eden Podcast!

Past Board Chair of Cedarville University and Baptist Pastor, Dr. Rudd is the author of Should Women be Pastors and Leaders in Church - my journey to discover what the Bible says about Gender Roles. Here's that LINK. https://amzn.to/47fvcB9 

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

Part 2! Raised in a difficult home life. Then ministering without mentoring. She served as a pastor's wife for 38 years. Now leading the Tru School Workshops she Mimi thanks God for being faithful. She is sensitive to each student as they consider the Tru316 Message and find freedom in Christ. in the Tru School Workshops like The Eden Workshop on Genesis 2-3. 

Go deeper? Click Tru316.com/workshop!

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

 

Welcome to this bonus episode of The Eden Podcast where we think again about the Bible on women and men and we start with a correct understanding of what happened in the Garden of Eden back in the beginning.

I’m Bruce C. E. Fleming, founder of the Tru316 Project and a former Academic Dean and Professor of Practical Theology.

This bonus episode celebrates our arrival at the end of Season Three on The Eden Podcast. I’ve started getting messages from some letting me know you have listened to all of the episodes up to this point. Congratulations! You have just completed a major achievement! 

We don’t hand out certificates just yet. But I would like to encourage you for your achievement.

Let’s look at what has been accomplished!

Season One of The Eden Podcast is the foundation of it all. What happened in Genesis 2-3 is so important to what we know of God, of one another, of the liar who attacked murderously at the Tree, of the difference between the responses of the man and the woman and of God’s responses to all three. 

We focused especially in Episodes 6 and 7 on God’s words to the woman in Genesis 3:16. Basing our insights on the research of Dr. Joy Fleming we observed that God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way! And we learned much more. 

That’s why we put all of Season One in a book and added Study Guides at the end of each chapter. The Book of Eden, Genesis 2-3 is 124 pages long in paperback. It is also available from Amazon as a Kindle E-book, and shortly should be available on Audible. I encourage you to get at least one copy for yourself today! Just go to Amazon HERE.

Season Two is about Ephesians 5:15-6:9. Because people haven’t begun at the beginning of this passage at 5:15 and ended at the end of the passage at 6:9, and because people haven’t recognized the way Paul developed his ideas inside the passage building up to his key idea in 5:32 there has been much that has gone wrong in their interpretation of this passage. 

Thanks to the insights we gained from a true view of Genesis 3:16 we were able to understand it all much better. This was especially true of Paul’s advice on teaching and admonishing one another and in submitting ourselves to that input from one another.

Season Three is about 1 Timothy 2:8-3:13 in context. We covered so much good material here and marveled at Paul’s loving and merciful attitude with the overseers who had gone astray in the church at Ephesus.

So, here’s how I would like us to encourage one another!

First of all. Spread the word! Of course, above all take what you have learned and apply it in your life as God moves you to. Then tell others. You can refer them to the entire The Eden Podcast series at TheEdenPodcast.com. You can refer them to several specific episodes. My favorites in Season 1 on Genesis are Episodes 1, 6 and 7. (But really I like them all.) My favorites in Season 2 on Ephesians are Episodes 3, 4 and 6. My favorites in Season 3 on 1 Timothy are 2, 5 and 6.

Second. I’d love to have you study with us as a member of our Tru School of the Bible. We are now taking early enrollment for our first 8-week course which will be called Unlocking Eden, Genesis 2-3. It will be held during our Summer Session in July and August. The cost will be $316 (of course 316) and the number of places is very limited. So you can sign up today. The cost will be refundable. Here’s the link on our website: Tru316.com/UnlockingEden.

There’s more to come! In your life and in mine. God is so good and God’s word the Bible is wholly worthy of our trust, respect and enjoyment!

 

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

Translators’ errors are hurting so many lives. Perhaps the biggest error of all is occurring in Genesis 3:16. People get a sour taste when they read modern translations of Genesis 2-3 that make God appear unfair and even vindictive. 

What they read leads them to think God cursed the woman in some way even though she had been deceived. They think she had been the Temptress and deserved a curse unlike the rebellious man whose body was not cursed.

Would you like a book you can read and study with others? At the Tru316 Project we’re really excited to provide you The Book of Eden, Studies from Genesis 2 and 3. Because God didn’t curse Eve or limit woman in any way. In eight chapters we work our way through the following points and more:

Here are THINGS THAT TRULY HAPPENED IN EDEN (GEN. 2-3)

1. CREATED EQUAL PARTNERS. God created the man and woman as equal partners.
2. BOTH RULED OVER ALL. God told both to rule over all other creatures and creation.
3. BOTH ATTACKED BY SATAN. Both were attacked by Satan but each reacted differently.
4. GOD AFFIRMED THE WOMAN. God affirmed the woman’s confession, appointed her Satan’s combatant and gave her the Promise.
5. GOD CURSED NEITHER HUMAN. The woman wasn’t cursed in any way in the original Hebrew text. But translations wrongly make it look like God did so in one or more ways.

At the end of each chapter you’ll find a Study Guide. These are not just review questions. They encourage discussion and lead you to apply what you read from the Bible.

I’ve created a package where you can order three or more hard copies of The Book of Eden to use in Study Groups, Book Clubs and for the Family. I’m autographing each one.

Go today to Tru316.com and click on the button to order your discounted copies of The Book of Eden. That’s tru316.com.

Here’s the link! https://tru316.com/shop/ols/products/the-book-of-eden-genesis-2-3-by-bruce-c-e-fleming

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

I was a Pharisee, Emily explains. I had never been introduced to Jesus. Then I learned the Good News. Along the way I found The Eden Podcast to be a great help to me.  Listen to her gripping yet joyful journey.

Emily has a popular blog on Facebook and on her website at ThrivingForward.org.

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

Go deeper. For much more, get a copy of The Book of Eden, Genesis 2-3 by Bruce C. E. Fleming (Kindle eBook, Paperback or audio book on Audible!)

Join the movement to "true" the verse! Become a Tru Partner of the Tru316 Foundation. Click Tru316.com/partner

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

A quick survey of the key points in Genesis 2-3 that are affected positively by a correct understanding of Genesis 3:16.  Christy and Kaylin interviewed Bruce C. E. Fleming on their podcast about what Genesis 3:16 really says in the Hebrew text and how this helps our understanding of the other verses that tell us what happened back in the Beginning. Lots covered and lots of fun in this interview!

Order a 3-Pak of the paperback, The Book of Eden, Genesis 2-3 HERE

For the Kindle version order HERE

GO DEEPER

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

What a  joy it is to see the rising number of episode downloads as YOU listen to the life-changing meaning of the passages we are studying together. Thank you so much. You are making a great investment in your life, the life of your family and friends and the life of your local church.

Our launch Episode, Episode One, Season One, of The Eden Podcast has been downloaded many more than a thousand times. Listeners have gone on to download the equivalent of 10 more times each, downloading more than 15,000 episodes! Listening to Seasons One through Four is equivalent to your taking a year’s Introductory Course in Bible Content and Practical Theology on Genesis 3:16 and the related Old Testament and New Testament passages! Congratulations!!!

Now that you have listened and learned so much what comes next?

** Most listeners will be a basic learner. Maybe that’s you. You have been learning in order to apply what you have learned. God is helping you have confidence in the Bible and to boldly live out in your daily life what you have been learning. And that’s great! Please try to listen to all of the first four Seasons of The Eden Podcast where we think again about the key passages on women and men in the light of a true understanding of Genesis 3:16. We learn that in Genesis 3 God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way. You can now get and study the books in The Eden Series. There are Study Guides that go with each chapter to help you go deeper! Book One in the Series is The Book of Eden, Genesis 2-3 by me, Bruce C. E. Fleming.

** Some listeners, perhaps every listener, will be gifted by God to help others. Maybe this is you?? In what ways can you help others? 

• Pray for those who are listening to The Eden Podcast, including you. 
• Pray for others who need to find out about The Eden Podcast and the books in The Eden Series. 
• Refer them to episodes of The Eden Podcast that interest them. Refer them to a book in The Eden Series that interests them.
• Engage with others in informed, loving conversation. 
• Point them to the website of the Tru316 Project with its blog, shop, products, transcripts of the podcast episodes, links to the YouTube Channel and more.
• Refer them to a Tru316 Project mentor who can answer their questions.

** Some listeners will be called by God to do more. To take action. Maybe this is you? In what ways can you take action?

• Organize a listening group or a book club to go through an episode or a chapter.
• Apply to be a Mentor with the Tru316 Project to answer questions on the content of The Eden Podcast. Attend live, or by replay, the Monthly Mentoring Meetings.
• Be an activist encouraging translation committees, authors, pastors and educators to update their materials in light of the correct understanding of Genesis 3:16. This action is the very reason I founded the Tru316 Project! This is what I pray for!

** One or more listeners will join the team of the Tru316 Project part- or full-time. Maybe that’s you. What skills could you bring to the Tru316 Project that would strengthen the ministry of the people just described? 

What will happen if you go deeper with the Tru316 Project? More will happen! Much more! You already know what happens on The Eden Podcast. You share our love and respect for the Bible, even in the so-called difficult passages, which turn out to be full of good news. 

For whatever level of engagement you choose to make, make it a good one. Pray about it. Keep listening to The Eden Podcast. Keep reading your Bible. 

 

Refer others to the podcast and the books. 

Step up and start making monthly financial support to the Tru316 Project as an e-patron over on patreon. 

Above all - take action!

GO DEEPER

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

Joanne Hagemeyer recalls how doors were closed to women for ministry in many ways. "I didn’t have a place in the church but I had a place in this Bible study." (It was Bible study Fellowship where eventually she was a Teaching Leader for many years). She has continued to use her gifts where there was an open door. 

Joanne Hagemeyer went on to build up the Tru316 ministry by launching the @Tru316 YouTube Channel, writing the Study Guides for the 4 books in The Eden Book Series and also Dr. Joy Fleming's book, Man and Woman in Biblical Unity - Theology from Genesis 2-3. (You can get copies from Tru316.com/trubooks).

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

God's 11 Hebrew words to the woman in Genesis 3:16.

According to the research of Dr. Joy Fleming, here are the 11 Hebrew words God spoke to the woman in Eden in Genesis 3:16.

In spite what you read in the mistranslations into modern languages of the four Hebrew words in Line 1 of Genesis 3:16, God does not talk about childbirth at all in Line 1 of Genesis 3:16. 

God takes action  for the woman (Words 1 and 2, "Multiplying, I-will-multiply") related to the man and related to the serpent tempter. The Hebrew of Line 1 is formed as a linchpin. Word 3, 'itsabon, links down to the "sorrowful-toil" that will result when God curses the ground because of the man (verse 17). And Word 4, heron, links back up to the woman's "seed" or "offspring" who will crush the attacker's head! 

In Lines 2-4, God explains to the woman what life is and will be like as a result of the attack and their responses.

In Line 2, Word 5, 'etsev, is not the same word as 'itsabon in Line 1. It means "effort." Word 6 is good news "you-will-have-children."

In Line 3, teshuqah does not mean an evil desire or turning. Like in Song of Solomon 7:10 it simply means "affection" between two lovers. The occurrence of the word in Genesis 4:7 is not relevant, where it is out of the literary context of Genesis 2:4-3:not even about two humans. God looks into her heart and confirms that even after the attack by the serpent tempter her affection/desire is for her husband. This will stand in stark contrast with the man's desire in Line 4.

In Line 4, the woman is warned that the man, the one who rejected God's word and rule and decided to follow Satan and rule over himself, this man desires to usurp God's rightful rule over, mashal, the woman. He wants to rule over her too! Many teach somehow that God told the man to rule over her, and by extension all men to rule over all women. This is not correct! This is fanciful myth-making and sounds like the pagan stories.

In Genesis 2-3, and especially in 3:16, God did not curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way!

Bruce C. E. Fleming

GO DEEPER

 

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

Mandy and Joey Hall use their Tru School training to reach out in various ways. Mandy specifically encourages those she works with in her nonprofit ministries.

Should you enroll like Mandy and Joey have done in a Tru School Workshop like The Eden Workshop on Genesis 2-3 or the Beyond Eden Workshop on Ephesians 5-6? These Workshop Wednesday Episodes  on The Eden Podcast bring you the tru stories of the men and women who have successfully completed one or more two-week Workshops. 

You too can enroll now. Simply visit www.Tru316.com/workshop for more information. Then sign up to join the next small group cohort for two week's of our Monday-Wednesday. They run from 7:3-8:30. If you have to miss one or more Sessions you will be sent the replay. 

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

Elaine Ricker Kelly uses her experience as a woman in business to inspire and empower women at home, church, and society. She has been an investment and insurance advisor, has three daughters, and aims to encourage girls and women in leadership. Elaine R Kelly lives in Grimsby, Ontario, Canada, with her husband and their dog. She and her husband enjoy hiking, nature, tennis, music, history, and culture. They worship in the mainline Protestant Christian tradition.

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 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

This passage is not about gentle prayer meetings everywhere. Nor is it about all women everywhere. 

Here is the key to understanding 1 Timothy 2. Paul is correcting the two groups of overseers who were disrupting the church. Some men who had gone astray (verse 8) and some women who had gone astray (verses 9 and following)

In verse 8 Paul focuses on these men who were praying and prophesying incorrectly and were disrupting the church. Then in verses 9-15 he focuses on the women who were doing so.

Go DEEPER

 

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

Bruce C. E. Fleming reflects on the brevity of life then introduces Joanne Hagemeyer to the podcast studios! Together they take us into The Book of Eden Chapter One. Get your own copy and follow along as we look at other verses, other points of view and meet some angry women!

What is the true truth of Genesis 3:16? How does that impact our understanding of the seven key passages on women and men in the Bible? Genesis 2. Genesis 3. Ephesians 5-6. 1 Timothy 2-3. 1 Corinthians 11:2-16. 1 Corinthians 14:34-40. 1 Peter 3:1-7.

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

From airline flight attendant to in-church Christian counselor. Hearing Corrie Ten Boom changed her life and brought Beth Moorhead to a ministry of healing hearts and lives at Westgate Church in the Twin Cities area. Beth found out about the Tru316 Foundation when the Tru316 Launch Event was held at her church. She now is a Tru Partner as one of the donors who monthly supports the outreach of The Eden Podcast and the Tru School Workshops! (www.Tru316.com/partner) 

Westgate Church offers individual, pre-marital, and marriage counseling, where Beth reports, "We’ve seen God reconcile and restore individuals and relationships. We also offer support groups for those grieving the loss of a relationship through death and those who have loved ones dealing with mental health issues. Our counseling group is a team of 20 people with different types of training and life experiences." 

For more information, you can contact Beth Moorhead at beth.moorhead@westgatemn.church.

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

Vicky has studied the books by Dr. Joy Fleming and Bruce C. E. Fleming for a number of years and has quite a collection of them. She also has taken two Tru School Workshops: The Eden Workshop on Genesis 2-3 and the Beyond Eden Workshop on Ephesians 5-6! You are invited to enroll as well! Visit www.Tru316.com/workshop. 

Vicki Cox says she was practically born in the pew of the Churches of Christ where her family has deep roots. She’s been married for 33 years and has two children and one grandchild. She lives on a small farm in south-central Missouri. Her preacher husband is now retired from full time ministry. ln 2003, she got her preacher husband fired from a church by asking for a study on women’s roles in the church and in the scriptures.

You can also study right now online with The Eden Course on Genesis 2-3. Go to TheEdenCourse.com!

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

Here are the four points for Spirit-filled walking in Ephesians 5:19-21. Each point in Greek starts with an -ing verb. 

• The first one, or part A, is “speaking.” In verse 19a we read, “speaking to one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs.”
• The second one, or part B, is “singing.” In verse 19b we read, “singing and making melody with your hearts to the Lord.”
• The third one, or part B prime, is “giving thanks.” In verse 20 we read, “giving thanks for all things in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ to our God and Father.”
• And the fourth one, or A prime, is “submitting.” In verse 21 we read, “submitting yourselves to one another in the fear of Christ.”

The first and last of these four points, A and A prime, go together. These are “one another” activities. And the middle two, B and B prime go together. These two are directed “toward God.”

Notice that two of these activities must be done in the Body of Christ? A person can’t do the A and A prime “one-another” activities all alone! This is one reason to make sure you’re involved in a local group of believers, a local church. How can you do “one another” activities alone? How else can you do “one other” activities? 

As part of a local church body of believers you know the names of who Paul has in mind in these verses for you. These would be the names of all the other believers with you in your local church. Treating “one-another” in these mirrored ways leads to good health in the body of Christ.

GO DEEPER!

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

Here are some of the insights from The Eden Course Jessica is excited about:

1. God created Equal Partners from Creation on!

2. Kidnap marriages? Arranged marriages? What is God's original design for marriage?

3. Was it The Fall? No. This is one of Jessica's favorite parts. We call it The Attack!

4. Was the woman the Temptress? Was there combat between the man and woman? No and No. What really happened?

5. Was the woman cursed? The man? No and No. God didn't curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way. 

What is THE CENTER PASSAGE of The Eden Course? This and more is in The Eden Course. GO HERE: TheEdenCourse.com

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

What can go wrong in our marriages when people work from beliefs that put women down? Sheila Gregoire from The Bare Marriage Podcast gives her answer in the light of a corrected reading pf Genesis 3:16 on this BEST OF episode of The Eden Podcast from March 16, 2022!

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

People stumble over several points in this passage. Here are two quick notes taken from this episode.

• "One wife/husband" in the Greek of 3:2 is an idiom meaning "a faithful spouse" whether male or female.
• "If anyone manages his or her own household well" in Greek in 3:5-6 includes both men and women.

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 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

Witnessing wives and husbands. The passage of 1 Peter 3:1-7 is about those Christians who are married to unbelieving spouses. They are unequally yoked. They are praying for their partner to come to Christ. Peter gives sensible advice how to please God and how to win their spouse.

Is this passage about hierarchical marriages with wives submitting to their lordly husbands? Are all wives somehow the "weaker vessel"? NOT AT ALL! The weaker spouse does not yet know Christ and needs to be won to Him.

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Liz Beyer found Dr. Joy Fleming's book to be a great help. We dive into this and more of her story on this episode of The Eden Podcast.

Liz Beyer is the editor of two volumes by CBE International.  They are

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What happens when people teach something the Bible doesn't say? When we try to apply principles that do NOT line up with the inspired Hebrew and Greek words of the Bible what problems arise?

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My Dad is from Mexico. My Mom is from El Salvador. I'm raised in Houston. Hispanic as they come. I came to my marriage with an authoritarian model. ... But then I began to learn from my wife to be. Our relationship became very equal. And it worked!

Hear Part Two of the Osbaldo Valdes Story on The Eden Podcast!

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

I started from Genesis to understand the egaliltarian / complementarian issues and do my research. The insights of Dr. Joy and Rev. Bruce C. E. Fleming really made a difference.

Over in Genesis 3 there was talk about Eve and Adam being cursed but I wanted more research scholars. I came across the work of Dr. Joy Fleming and it really made a big difference in how we interpret the text. It changed how we see the relationship between men and women and much more.

Feedback was "Thank you SO much for clearing that up. It's nice to know that we're not cursed and that God is not down on women!"

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Jump with me to the heart of the matter. 1 Timothy 3:1 does not teach that only men are to be overseers in the church. Verse 2 does not teach that only married men can be pastors. And verses 4-5 do not teach that men only are to manage the household.

1 Timothy 3:1 offers encouragement to the overseers undergoing retraining by saying, “Anyone aspiring to oversight desires a good work.” However, many people cover over the meaning of the verse. They lard it over with teaching full of imported meaning that is foreign to the text. They make it sound something like this: Here’s an 11th Commandment: "Only men should be overseers!" Surprising departure from the previous meaning I described? It certainly is! What do you think of it?

In the verses that follow verse 1 there are other departures from the meaning of the inspired Greek text. People repeat their error from verse 1 when they teach that verse 2 says that only married men should be overseers in church. 

Then, with regard to life in the Christian family they get wrong verses 4-5 saying that men are the ones who must manage the family unit. The Greek words of 1 Timothy chapter 3 don’t say any of these things. Many translations, sadly, go astray. Let’s correct them as we think again about 1 Timothy chapter 3.

In the passage of 1 Timothy the three times Paul uses the words pistos ho logos. In 3:1, Jesus, the faithful Word, serves as the high point, the turning point of the second section of the letter to Timothy that runs from 1:18 to 3:16. As Jesus is faithful, Jesus in turn makes others faithful, in this case the overseers Paul has been correcting in 2:8-15.

As we arrive at 3:1 we are at a major turning point. Paul turns from “How to correct disruptive wayward overseers” to “How to restore them to ministry.” Keeping this focus on overseers, both female and male, keeps us from going astray in our interpretation and in our practice in church today. 

The Greek words in the rest of 1 Timothy 3:1 are inclusive of both women and men. They are gender neutral. Paul is talking about tis or “anyone,” female or male who aspires to oversight. 

Overseers were among the ones gifted to serve the rest of the body of Christ. Those who received this gift were described in Ephesians 4:11-12. 

In the letter to the Ephesians, only some believers in the body of Christ are called to be apostles, prophets, evangelists and pastor-teachers. Because Paul is speaking about those who had gone astray from within this group, when he talks about anyone aspiring to oversight in 3:1 the antecedent to the pronoun “anyone” looks back to those people who already had been gifted and called to be overseers. 

The “anyone” in 3:1 refers to those who have already been in public ministry and have been stopped from doing so because they had gone astray and disrupted the church. But these were not without hope. To the contrary they could aspire to such a good work once more thanks to Jesus, the faithful Word.

Have you looked on wayward church leaders this way? Have you seen defrocked pastors, and elders and preachers and teachers treated this way? I have. But not much in the churches in my own country in America. But in other countries where we have served I have seen a fruitful practice of discipline, retraining and restoration carried out.

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

Was Eve cursed? Should women be paid less? These and other hard questions are asked by Sharon Williams in a friendly but challenging way. How does Sharon evaluate Bruce' answers? Please listen to this Bonus Episode of Season Five of The Eden Podcast.

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 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

Growing up he experienced in his home both patriarchal and matriarchal rule. His new mentor, Pastor Todd guided him to a better way. In the church, the subject of deacon was key to opening up his understanding. What was life like in a Hispanic culture in West Houston churches? This is Part One of the Osbaldo Valdes Story on The Eden Podcast. 

 

Fleeing a church split he was taken under the wing of Pastor Todd in a new church.

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

1 Timothy 2:8 is not a verse about people in general praying around the world. What should tip us off are the comments at the end of the verse about “anger” and “disputing.”

Disruptive Preachers. How often are people angry and how often do disputes break out after prayer meetings where you are? Not often? Never? Is this verse not applicable in your situation? No. It likely is not. It applied to the situation in Ephesus. And would apply in similar situations down through time.

In his next sentence, in verse 9, Paul begins with the Greek word “likewise.” And then he uses no verb. When this happens in Greek we are to look back to the verb in the previous sentence and use it in this one. What is the verb we are to use in verse 9? It is the verb “I wish.”

Verse 8 is aimed not at all men, nor at all the men overseers. It applies to the men overseers who are praying and preaching incorrectly. Because verse 9 starts with the word “Likewise,” we can assume it is aimed not at all women, nor at all the women overseers. It applies to the women overseers who are praying and preaching incorrectly.

Right, wrong, right. In 1 Timothy 2:9-10 Paul describes the characteristics of faithful women overseers in the first half of verse 9 and also in verse 10. He contrasts these with the improper behavior of the wayward women overseers described in the second half of verse 9 and in verse 12.

The incorrect behavior of verses 9b and 12 practiced by a subgroup of the women overseers was to be stopped. Then these women were to be taught. Paul says "Let learn!" This command in Greek in verse 11 applied to the women who were being retrained for service after being restrained from false teaching and practice.

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 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

A Native of Holland, Loes studied in London where she met her husband. They moved to Asia where she found Jesus while attending a Baptist church. Looking for answers to her practical questions she came across the books and materials of Joy and Bruce Fleming and found them to be life changing! 

Greatly encouraged she wrote down her discoveries and began a website called Ministry to Silenced Women. She has been invited to speak in the Philippines, Myanmar, Hong Kong and more. Her book was translated into the languages of Pakistan. Encouraged by Loes's writings to follow the calling of Christ, 300 Pakistani women became Pastors of house churches during the pandemic!

Here is her website: www.ministryto-silencedwomen.com 

Loes is a regular on the Tru316 FIRST Saturday monthly Q&A Sessions for Tru Partners and friends. She also has continued to study by taking the Tru School Workshops on the key passages on women and men (www.Tru316.com/workshop) 

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Paul listed MY THREE SINS in 1 Timothy 1:13. First, Paul was a blasphemer. He had spoken evil of Jesus. Second, he was a persecutor. He had persecuted believers in Christ. Third, he was injurious. He had disrupted the church. 

Three groups in Ephesus (1 Timothy 1:18-3:16). Paul often gave a list near the start of his letters. The list pointed to what was coming next in his letter. When I learned of this I began looking for a list in 1 Timothy. I read various commentaries to see what list they had found. No one mentioned any list.

And then, I found it! Paul’s list comes in 1:13. The list is found in his three sins - Paul had been (1) a blasphemer, (2) a persecutor, and (3) a disruptor. These three sins become the template he will use in Section Two of this letter. 

In Section Two of his letter, Paul writes about three groups of people in Ephesus who correspond to each one of his three sins. Paul comments about those who are guilty of his first sin in a few words. He comments about those who have the power to commit his second sin with more words. He comments to Timothy about the group guilty of his third sin with the most words.

Here are the three groups:

1. Blasphemers at Ephesus (1 Timothy 1:18-20)
2. Persecutors at Ephesus (1 Timothy 2:1-7)
3. Disruptors at Ephesus (1 Timothy 2:8-3:16)

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Are women weaker in any way? Is that what 1 Peter 3 teaches? Do they have roles that can be described as weaker? Based on insights from Genesis 3:16 Bruce responds to Lauren's questions in Part 2 of this replay from her livestream to her 20,000 followers.

Bruce is interviewed by Lauren who was a Jane Doe in the Bill Gothard lawsuit. Based on a recent survey she asks, How mistranslations and misinterpretations of the key passages on women and men have been weaponized? Should these passages be mistrusted or should those wayward teachings and their proponents by mistrusted? In Part Two of this interview Lauren asks Bruce about more troubling passages. What about 1 Peter 3:1-7? What about Ephesians 5:15-6:9?

Go Deeper? Bruce has written four volumes in The Eden Book Series. He refers to Book 4 (on 1 Corinthians 11 & 14 and 1 Peter 3), and Book 2 (on Ephesians 5-6) in this episode. All four are based on his doctoral research and that of Joy Fleming. Available here on Amazon: https://amzn.to/4dhU0LH 

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Why so much turning in circles? Why so much confusion and disputing on what Paul wrote to Timothy? I believe it is because people have missed Paul's three-part passage in 1 Timothy 1:18-3:16. THIS IS IMPORTANT. It helps make clear that in 1 Timothy 2:11-12 Paul refers the subgroup of wayward women overseers in Ephesus.

"In every place" in 1 Timothy 2:8 is the start of Section 3 where Paul first refers to the wayward overseers who were disrupting the church. We go deeper on this in our zoom Workshops. We offer Fast Class Workshops in our Tru School. Normally priced at $69 for each Workshop, we offer the first one for the special amount of $3.16! Learn more about these Workshops and the one on 1 Timothy here: Tru316.com/workshop

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

Was the one human led astray by his lies? Was the other led astray by his rebellious example? How did God interact with each one? What did the man leave out in his reply to God? What did the woman reveal? There is much more to Genesis 3 than you may have seen before! This is another chapter in The Book of Eden, Genesis 2-3 by Bruce C. E. Fleming read to you by the author. 

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No, Ephesians 5-6 is NOT primarily about marriage. No, it does NOT teach wifely submission or that a man is the head of the house. This passage DOES teach how Spirit-filled believers are to walk out their life in Christ. Believers are to teach and admonish other believers from the Word of God. In turn they all are to submit to the teaching and correction they receive from one another. This passage is about RECIPROCAL SUBMISSION and unity with Jesus in the Body of Christ! Dive Deeper? Join the next Beyond Eden Workshop on Ephesians 5-6. Click www.Tru316.com/workshop!

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In your mind, simply put quotation marks around the three verses of 1 Corinthians 11:4-6. Or better still pencil in quotation marks around them on the page of your print Bible.

If quotation marks are missing around these verses in the Bible version you are using, is that wrong? Yes, and no. In koiné Greek in which the New Testament was written there were no quotation marks added. You had to add them yourself because this kind of punctuation wasn’t adopted yet. Translators have to decide whether or not to get the idea across in a modern language by doing nothing, by adding quotation marks or even by adding a few introductory words such as, “someone will say.”

Dr. Bill Mounce brings up the example of 1 Corinthians 6:12. He writes, “Many translations put the phrase in quotation marks. “‘All things are lawful for me,’ but not all things are helpful.” These include the ESV, and also the HCSB, NRSV and NET. Mounce continues that Paul “is quoting what his Corinthians opponents are saying. He doesn’t agree with them, but he is citing them.”

Placing punctuation. The New International Version placed quotation marks around Paul’s words in 1 Corinthians 10:23-26. Not every word in these verses was put in quotes. The translators noted that Paul was dialoguing with his readers in a brisk give and take. They showed this by adding quotation marks, dashes, and a paragraph break to his comments. They added these even though no punctuation marks were used in Paul’s original letter.

Here is how the NIV punctuates 1 Corinthians 10:23. The words placed in quotation marks by the NIV I will highlight for you:

23“I have the right to do anything”, you say – but not everything is beneficial. 

   “I have the right to do anything” – but not everything is constructive. 

The proposals from Corinth in 1 Corinthians 10 are set apart by the quotation marks and the punctuation added by the NIV. This passage immediately precedes the verses on women and angels in 1 Corinthians 11.

Modern readers are confused if translations do not add punctuation marks. Nevertheless most translators and editors have not placed quotation marks around verses 4-6.

The reader who does not realize that the three verses of 1 Corinthians 11:4-6 are a quotation tries to make it part of Paul’s ideas. This makes the rest of the passage impossible to decipher. By omitting this punctuation translators make it look like Paul is advocating these legalistic ideas! Some scholars have even accused Paul of “reverting to his pre-Christian roots as a Pharisee in verses 4-6.”

In order to continue the thought of verses 4-6, major modifications have been made in the translations, including in verse 10. Commentators go to great lengths to try to make sense of the passage as a whole. But none of this is necessary if one simply and reasonably places verses 4-6 in quotation marks.

Why do people think the ideas in verses 4-6 could possibly be Paul's? I think it is because they have gotten Genesis 3:16 wrong. That's why we need a true 316.

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 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

Emily Derby from Tulsa, Oklahoma is a graduate of Oral Roberts University. She is Office Manager in her family’s insurance business. In her free time she enjoys writing, painting, and taking her dog on walks. Emily is passionate about encouraging others to know the truth of what God’s Word says about them and knowing who they are in Christ. 

Emily is our newest Tru School Workshops Leader! You can enroll today at www.Tru316.com/workshop

Like to go deeper? ENROLL NOW to be part of the next Tru School two-week cohort, The Eden Workshop on Genesis 2-3. Here's that link: www.Tru316.com/workshop

The Tru316 Foundation(www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too.

Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation as Jean has done? You can become a Tru Partner HERE: www.Tru316.com/partner

For just $3.16/month or more our Tru Partners are spreading the Word that God didn't curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way. Click www.Tru316.com/partner

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

It turns out that there’s been a lot of pollution dumped into Genesis 3:16 by translations into the modern languages we use today. They mix new ideas into the verse and cover over the ideas God put there in the original Hebrew words of the verse. Translations make it look like God cursed the woman when God cursed neither the woman nor the man. The translation of that verse has been incorrect. So, why aren’t our translations doing better? And, why would there be a problem translating this verse? What’s going on? Did God blame Eve? Take the Mini Course. Here's the link: https://bit.ly/3fFC8j4 GO DEEPER!

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

There are 4 Principles and 7 Think Again Bible Study Steps. When Genesis 3:16 is made clear all the other key passages on women and men become clear too!

This is the capstone episode of the teaching episodes of Seasons 1-11 on The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming. 

Starting with Season 12 we begin our Interview shows. You will find them on this podcast player or go to Tru316.com and follow the links. These new episodes will also have video! Subscribe on YouTube @Tru316

• Media Monday features authors, podcasters and platform personalities whose Stories you'll find useful! 
• Tru Talk Tuesday features therapists, counselors and people helpers.
• Workshop Wednesday features students from our Tru School Eden Workshops 1, 2, 3 and 4. (Would YOU like to possibly be on an upcoming episode? Please join us in a workshop! Here's the link: Tru316.com/workshop) 
• Think Again Thursday features chapters from the pages of our books in The Eden Book Series starting with Book 1 - The Book of Eden, Genesis 2-3. Available on Amazon and Audible.
• Tru Friends Friday features those who are monthly donors to the Tru316 Foundation whom we call our Tru Partners. Those who join us at the $25/month level and more receive a coupon code to subscribe TUITION FREE to all of our Tru School Eden Workshops! You can even start for as little as $3.16 a month! (Here's the link: Tru316.com/partner)

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

The Rev. Dr. Mike Davis of Chino, California works at The Optimal Performance Group, and the Centre for Christian Training and Development. He studied First Century Christianity at CSBR Division of Graduate Studies. Mike is teaching pastor at The Oasis Fellowship in Chino, California. He is a popular presence online and has presented a notable series called “Who’s the Boss? Women and Men in Biblical and Cultural Contexts.” 

A previous Guest on The Eden Podcast and he honored us with his Tru Talk as part of the Launch event of the Tru316 Foundation in March of 2023! Here's that link: https://youtu.be/FFmIJyN4miA?si=jm4PEHnssKaUcTnM 

This new episode is Part One of the lively discussion with Mike, co-host Christy Gudim and host Bruce C. E. Fleming.

Mike Davis is the author of The Power of Emotional Success ... Now!

Mike's links:

Mike Davis links:

• Email: mldtraining@msn.com
• Website: www.emotionalsuccesscoach.com
• Facebook (personal page): www.facebook.com/mikedavis.thecoach
• Facebook (Ministry page): https://www.facebook.com/cctdonline/
• Facebook (Marriage group): https://www.facebook.com/groups/JoyfullyMarried/

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The Tru316 Foundation(www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too.

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For $25 a month or more (or even as little as  $3.16/month) our Tru Partners are spreading the Word. Click here: www.Tru316.com/partner

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

Dr. Flemings' research helps men and women look at one another in a proper way. The partnership model revealed by the Tru316 Foundation's research is a model I have used in hundreds of counseling hours.

I am deeply indebted to the Flemings for Tru316. Please support Tru316.

 

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

On Mother's Day in the United States we hear the story of Dr. Joy Fleming and how God led her to study Genesis 2-3. She is co-Founder of the Tru316 Foundation and her research on Genesis 2-3 serves as the basis of all we do on The Eden Podcast and on Tru316.com.

Become a Tru Partner of the Tru316 Foundation and enroll for no charge in any or all four Eden Workshops on the key passages in Genesis and in the New Testament. Click here to get started: https://tru316.com/partner

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

A look at the Hebrew words and word patterns of Genesis 2-3, and especially of Genesis 3:16, reveals that God didn't curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way! An excerpt in Chinese from the book Women and Men in the Light of Eden by Bruce C. E. Fleming! Video verseion is here: https://youtu.be/r_hJKGS3vYE?si=FkxiKt_i2pMCCNus 

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

Joy made some important discoveries about the word patterns in Genesis 3:16 we've never told you about before. We'll be including them in the forthcoming edition of her book: Man & Woman in Biblical Unity, Theology from Genesis 2-3!

Did you know that there is a chiasm that shows which part of the linchpin we're supposed to notice? In the chiasm of lines a and b the stress is on the Hebrew word heron in Genesis 3:16a! But modern language translations cover over this VERY important detail. That's why we're working to "true" this verse and related passages as well.

You can help by joining our growing family of Tru Partners here: Tru316.com/partner

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

What had scholars found out about The Garden of Eden? That was this pastor's question as he prepared to preach on Genesis 3:16. "It really makes a big difference! It changes what we see the passage is saying and is not saying." 

"The research brings liberty and a greater sense of freedom from a misinterpretation of the text."

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

The Tru316 Project was launched to clean up the word pollution of Genesis 3:16 and related passages. How has the interpretation of the other passages set pollution fires? 

- Some people teach the woman was the Temptress and was cursed by God. 

- Some teach God saw evil desire in her heart and put the man in charge. 

- Some teach a man is like Christ to a woman. 

- Some teach that God gifts men only for public ministry. And there’s more. 

All this can be traced back to the incorrect translation of Genesis 3:16. That’s why we need a true 3:16! 

Because God didn't curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way!

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 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

Here is Part 1 of our serialization of Dr. Joy Fleming's book Man and Woman in Biblical Unity, Theology from Genesis 2-3.

The human race was and is God's delight. This early part of Genesis tells of two human beings, each specially "handmade" by God. It speaks of how they related to their Creator's care and command. Because two people were created, societal interplay is observed between them. And because they were responsible for their own actions, the Creator deals with each one individually.

In Genesis we discover that both persons share equally in

• the image of God (Gn. 1:26-27);
• the charge to be fruitful and multiply (Gn. 1:28);
• the mandate to rule over the world God created (Gn. 1:26-31);
• the enjoyment of God's gracious bounty in the Garden (Gn. 2);
• and even in the name "Adam" (Gn. 5:2).

Neither person of either gender has greater intrinsic value than the other. They are partners in the grace of life. The text of Genesis 2 and 3 tells us of the Creator who graciously reaches out to the two sinners, and how the first couple experiences God's love as well as the consequence of sin.

Go Deeper? You can get the full audio book as a free download from our website. Simply click on the top bar when you go to Tru316.com.

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

This Bonus episode of The Eden Podcast is about Tabitha Center #316 – reaching and disciplemaking among at-risk women through vocational training based on the positive insights from Eden. Claudine Selenga and her husband Nubako Selenga founded and direct this ministry to 7,000 at-risk women in Kinshasa, DRCongo and beyond.

The story: Claudine and her husband Nubako had served as the leaders of their denomination in the northwestern region of the DR Congo. They moved south to the capital city of Kinshasa as Nubako began international travel heading up a new missionary association to other countries in Africa. Meanwhile Claudine was raising their six children and was open to what her next ministry activities would be.

Here is the remarkable timeline of the ministry that grew from one center in their home to multiple centers serving 7,000 at-risk women in 2024! Now located in 300 local churches they spread the Good News through Bible study and vocational training.

They discovered that many of the young neighborhood women had resorted to prostitution due to their extreme poverty. Many lacked the skills for gainful employment. Most did not know the Lord or how to grow as Christians.

So Claudine started a home Bible study group. Her first priority was evangelism and discipleship. And she has retained that priority in all that has developed since the start.

She observed their lack of marketable skills. Being a seamstress herself, among other things, Claudine got two hand cranked sewing machines and began teaching sewing to the young women. She called the work The Tabitha Center.

The young women loved the song time, the Bible lessons, the prayer time, the skills classes and more! A dozen young women started attending at first. Then 20, 25 and more started coming!

They added lessons on home economics, small business management skills, cosmetology classes, restaurant management and more.

The Kinshasa City Team led by Pastor Nubako Selenga ministry now includes these outreaches:

• Tabitha Centers (reaching at-risk women with discipleship training and vocational skills)
• Global Fingerprints Tabitha (an extension of Tabitha that includes literacy training)
• Follow Me (reaching men through vocational training)
• Kids Action Network (teaching children through Bible storytelling)
• Planting 100 new churches (growing healthy, holy churches in Kinshasa, pop. 17 million)

Links:

www.Tru316.com/donate (Mention that your gift is for Tabitha Center 316)

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100081143602379 (Tabitha Center Facebook Page)

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

Sheila Wray Gregoire is an excellent and insightful  interviewer. This Bonus Episode for The Eden Podcast is taken from the last section of Episode 111 of The Bare Marriage Podcast where she interviews Bruce C. E. Fleming on the word "head" and his new book Beyond Eden, Ephesians 5-6.

In this interview they both refer to her first interview of Bruce on Episode 99 on The Bare Marriage Podcast. There she questioned Bruce about The Book of Eden, Genesis 2-3 and the importance of getting right a verse that has been gotten wrong for the last hundred years. It is Genesis 3:16, and especially Line 1 in the Hebrew text. 

In her research Dr. Joy Fleming found that God didn't curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way! Though most all modern translations make the verse look like God did that. It turns out that when Genesis 3:16 is made clear the seven passages on women and men in the Bible can be made clear. This BONUS Episode of The Eden Podcast is about one of those passages, the one in Ephesians 5-6.  

Beyond Eden, Ephesians 5-6 is available on Amazon HERE as a Kindle e-book and as a 118-page paperback complete with Study Guides after each chapter. Beyond Eden and The Book of Eden are also available as audiobooks on Audible.

Go Deeper!

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

She was one of the plaintiffs covered in the blockbuster video series "SHINY Happy People" on Prime. After coming out of a cult she finally heard the Good News of Jesus! She was also helped by The Eden Podcast and we're so glad we could help.

This is the Emily Elizabeth Anderson Story. Her website is ThrivingForward.org

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

In my early years as a speaker in Youth Ministry I developed the bad habit of picking my ILLUSTRATIONS FIRST and burying the message of the passages that were assigned to me to speak on! It took me a year and a half in seminary to learn how to let the passage speak for itself! At the Tru316 Foundation we take great care to let God speak to us through word studies and through analysis of the literary patterns that are present in the 7 key passages on women and men related to Genesis 3:16.

I had a handful of illustrations I  always used. But the Bible speaks to us about more than that! I'm afraid many others in ministry haven't carefully let the original 11 Hebrew words in Genesis 3:16 speak to us. What my wife clearly revealed in her research on Genesis 2-3 we carefully included in two of our books (see Tru316.com/trubooks), 

1. Man and Woman in Biblical Unity: Theology from Genesis 2-3 by Dr. Joy Fleming (available as a free audiobook from the top section of Tru316.com, and as an eBook on Amazon)
2. The Book of Eden, Genesis 2-3 by Bruce C. E. Fleming (available as a hard copy and an eBook from Amazon and as an audiobook on Audible)

Go Deeper? Sign up for the next cohort to go through two-week hour-long Tru School Eden Workshop on Genesis 2-3 here: Tru316.com/workshop

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

As Debby sought answers to the chaos she was experiencing in her 30 year "Christian" marriage, she became educated on domestic abuse and for the last 3 years has been mentoring women of faith, on Facebook groups and one on one, who are caught in the same confusion she was.

Growing up in institutional care in Illinois she served in the Army in Texas and became a children’s librarian. She was one of the very first students who enrolled in The Eden Workshop on Genesis 2-3! We are pleased to present The Debby Seguin Story on The Eden Podcast!

More about Debby. She met her former husband at a large non-denominational church in San Antonio and raised her 3 children there. Debby divorced in 2020 and she and her 3 adult children now live in North Texas, 2 sons in Fort Worth and a daughter, along with her husband, who are raising 3 children on a ranch near Amarillo. 

The Tru School 2-week long zoom workshops (Tru316.com/workshop) takes students in small cohort groups on intimate discovery sessions based on the Hebrew and Greek words and word patterns presented in the volumes of The Eden Book Series by Bruce and Joy Fleming.

What are helpful resources related to issues discussed on this episode?

Helpful books can be found at Tru316.com/trubooks 

Including this one: Tools for Ministry Leaders to Help Victims of Abuse, by Cecilie Croissant, MA, LP https://amzn.to/3T6T3zi

Here’s a ministry organization others are finding helpful: Called to Peace Ministries. https://www.calledtopeace.org/who-we-help/churches/

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

BONUS NEWS FLASH! 20,000 Downloads!

In just over nine months YOU have downloaded THIS MANY Episodes of The Eden Podcast! And I know your favorite one – it is Season 1, Episode 1. It is titled “Genesis 3:16 has been polluted!”

• - What is your second most favorite Episode? 
• - Which one has helped you the most? 
• - Which one surprised you the most? 
• - Which one are you still puzzling over the most?
• - Which passage is the most important? 

Each Season of The Eden Podcast covers a major passage or two. 

• - Season One covers Genesis 2-3.
• - Season Two covers Ephesians 5-6.
• - Season Three covers 1 Timothy 2-3.
• - Season Four covers 1 Corinthians 11 and 14 and 1 Peter 3.

These Seasons on The Eden Podcast cover the seven key passages on women and men in the light of the corrected wording of Genesis 3:16. But because not everyone listens to podcasts, Books One and Two in The Eden Book Series have now been released. And Books Three and Four are in process. 

The Book of Eden, Genesis 2-3 is available as an ebook on Kindle, as a paperback on Amazon and as an audiobook on Audible. So is Beyond Eden, Ephesians 5-6.

What you may not know about is my compact 93-page commentary on Genesis, Ephesians and 1 Timothy. It is called Women and Men in the Light of Eden and I have a limited number of copies I’m giving away for FREE to celebrate our group milestone of hitting 20,000 downloads! 

I’ll send YOU an autographed copy as your FREE gift as we celebrate! Just pay the shipping and handling. 

Click this link to make your request! https://bit.ly/2XgGTJq Or you can access a special page on the website. Here it is: www.Tru316.com/free

I’m grateful: 

• To God for the Word! 
• For the research of my wife to uncover and remove the pollution of Genesis 3:16.
• For how many listen to multiple episodes of The Eden Podcast
• For the help I’m getting producing the podcasts and the books
• For the listeners who are starting local Tru316 Chapters to spread the word!

To God be the glory!

Bruce C. E. Fleming

Speaker on The Eden Podcast

Founder of the Tru316 Project (www.Tru316.com) 

P.S. Here’s that link again. I’ll send YOU an autographed copy of Women and Men in the Light of Eden as your FREE gift as we celebrate! Click this link to make your request! https://bit.ly/2XgGTJq

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

This discussion uses the 2-page Eden Bible Study. Use it when you meet with a friend, as you discuss Genesis 3 with the family, in a group study at your church! To get a copy email Bruce@Tru316.com with the word STUDY

Go deeper? Buy The Eden Course! In 8 great Lessons follow the videos by Jessica Nagy, take the fun quizzes, and dig into the additional resources. Skip the fiction. Learn the facts! Buy it HERE Or go to www.TheEdenCourse.com

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 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

This is Book 2 in The Eden Book Series read by the author Bruce C. E. Fleming. These books also are used as the workbooks in the 2-week long workshops offered by Tru School! You can enroll today and start gaining clarity with the next small group. Learn more here: Tru316.com/workshop

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

Did God tell the man to rule over the woman? Or was it the man's desire? Did the man righteously rule over the woman when he named her? Or was this another of his disobedient steps away from God's will?

This is the familiar yet surprising climax of the chapters on the Garden of Eden! Would you like to get a copy of The Book of Eden? In addition to what we're sharing on The Eden Podcast you'll find in-depth Study Guides after each chapter!

Here's the link. https://amzn.to/3Ri4YJo (It's also available as an eBook for just $3.16!)

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

Almost 200,000 downloads from 125 countries of The Eden Podcast as we completed Year 1 of The Tru316 Foundation. More than 100 students have completed their study of Tru School Workshops like The Eden Workshop on Genesis 2-3 (see www.Tru316.com/workshop) And so much more! Join us for Part 1 of this fabulous Celebration for Year 1 of the Tru316 Foundation.

Some Guests who have appeared on The Eden Podcast this past year. Dr. Mark Strauss, vice chair of the NIV Update Committee, Dr. Carmen Imes, Old Testament Professor at Biola University, Dr. Keith Gregoire of the Bare Marriage Podcast, Judy Douglass of Cru Women's Ministry, Liz Beyer of CBE International and many more!

Join us in the next episodes for our Guest Testimonials and our Keynote Speaker!

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

Eve's curse? No. Adam's curse? Again, No. God cursed only the serpent tempter and the ground. God didn't curse Eve or Adam or limit woman in any way. But God DID curse the ground because of the man! Why the harsher sentence for the man?

Prefer reading to listening? Order The Book of Eden on Genesis 2-3, available as an eBook on Kindle, as a paperback, or as an audiobook on Audible. Here's a link Or use this one: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0972575928/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_WA51B0RBA3PWVV5TAG0S 

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 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

Peter starts verse 7 on chapter 3 with the word "Likewise" in the Greek text. Likewise what? or who? This is a key to understanding 1 Peter 3:7. This and other keys are covered in this episode of The Eden Podcast and in the book Because of Eden on 1 Corinthians 11 & 14 and 1 Peter 3. Notice the second part of the subtitle that refers to unequally yoked couples: Quotations Refuted and Witnessing Spouses. It is available HERE!

Want to be a part of getting the Word out? Become a Tru Partner of the Tru316 Foundation HERE!

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

How do YOU learn best? By listening? Try The Eden Podcast! By reading? Get The Eden Book Series starting with The Book of Eden on Genesis 2-3. Small group studies your style? Sign up for Tru School Workshops on tru316.com/workshop. 

What about your own self-paced course? With special videos and quizzes by Jessica Nagy and all the rest too! For you! Your high school home school student! Yourself! You can purchase it now at TheEdenCourse.com

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

Modern English versions all go through a revision process. Hear "Why/ Who? and How? An Inside Look at Bible Revision" the Keynote Address given by Dr. Jeannine Brown at the Launch Event of the Tru316 Foundation (Tru316.com). You can also see this presentation and her slides here: https://youtu.be/c16tkg0b1OU?t=347 

 

 

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

Paula says, I want to think right. I think that is part of what draws me to the Tru School Workshops on Genesis 3:16 and related passages. The Tru School 2-week long zoom workshops (Tru316.com/workshop) take students in small cohort groups on intimate discovery sessions based on the Hebrew and Greek words and word patterns presented in the volumes of The Eden Book Series by Bruce and Joy Fleming.

Paula Collins, MA, LPC, is a trauma-informed Professional Counselor licensed in Georgia and South Carolina. Her clinic is called: Looking Upward Moving Forward. Her website is lookingupwardmovingforward.com

She earned her Master’s degree in Marriage and Family Therapy from Reformed Theological Seminary in 1998 and works with individuals who seek counseling for depression, anxiety, relationship issues, and healing from trauma. She also works with couples seeking to improve their relationships. She is certified in EMDR.

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

The word patterns in 1 Timothy have been overlooked. The results have been disastrous. Let's look at Paul's Three Sins, the Three Sections to the whole book of 1 Timothy and at the Jump Jump High Jump Patter in 1 Timothy 1:18-3:16!

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

Have you seen him talking with Sheila Gregoire on The Bare Marriage Podcast? Have you watched him correcting a YouTuber's incorrect teaching on women in ministry? Here is Part 1 in our multi-part interview of joyful South African Pastor Terran Williams, author of How God Sees Women, The End of Patriarchy.

Terran was an avid surfer who came from a divorced family, and a gay father who was one of the first to die of AIDS. Invited to a surfer camp that was a ministry outreach he heard the Good News of life in Christ and gave his heart to Jesus. Instantly he wanted to tell others this same Good News and he has been doing so ever since!

How did he become a pastor of a very large church? How did he take on the challenge to prove women should be kept out of ministry but saw the error of this view? How did his realization cost him his pastorate? What did he put in his book How God Sees Women, the End of Patriarchy.

All this and more as we launch into Season 14 of The Eden Podcast on audio and on the Tru316 YouTube Channel!

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

In 1 Corinthians 11:3 Paul reminds his Jewish readers, who are monotheists, of the importance of unity. Three times he points to independent elements that together make up one unit. The image he uses is that of the parts of the body that, united, make up one whole body:

• Believers-and-Christ are united in one spiritual body
• A wife-and-husband are united in one flesh
• Son-and-Father are united in the Godhead.

He states his main idea in the first line of verse 3, and then adds two subordinate parallel images to illustrate it. In his reference to the parts that make up the body Paul challenges the reader to answer the question, Just who is “every man”?

“Every man” is every believer – every man and every woman who is a Christian. This image is parallel to the one Paul uses in Ephesians 5:23: “Christ is the head of the church.”

1 Corinthians 11:3:  Christ is the head of every man

Ephesians 5:23b:     Christ is the head of the church

An extraordinary response

Paul begins his response to those who did not hold to the tradition he had taught the Corinthians with some word play. Usually a “play on words” has an extra  element in it that draws attention to the fact that something extraordinary is being said, even though ordinary words may be used.

In 1 Corinthians 11:3, Paul uses “every man” in Greek to stand for “every person – male or female.” Writing “every man” he makes a gentle play on words to make a point: Do some of you want to focus only on what a man is free to do in Christ? Not I. I will focus on every man in Christ because I want you to focus on what every person – male or female – is free to do in Christ!

GO DEEPER

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

Joy and Bruce each did their doctoral studies at the University of Strasbourg in France. Hear how Joy hesitantly raised her hand at the end of a weekend retreat in the mountains along the Rhine River and what surprises came next.

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

Bob and Helga Edwards are longtime advocates for the full and equal participation of women and men in the home and in ministry.

They have a wonderful periodic podcast called Awake Deborah and the have produced a number of publications including The Equality Workbook, Freedom in Christ from the Oppression of Patriarchy and Let my people Go a Call to End the Oppression of Women in the Church. Their website is AwakeDeborah.com 

Like to go deeper? ENROLL NOW to be part of the next Tru School two-week cohort, The Eden Workshop on Genesis 2-3. Here's that link: www.Tru316.com/workshop

The Tru316 Foundation(www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too.

Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation as Jean has done? You can become a Tru Partner HERE: www.Tru316.com/partner

For just $3.16/month or more our Tru Partners are spreading the Word that God didn't curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way. Click www.Tru316.com/partner

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

There were women in ministry who were preferred over men in the Old and New Testaments. Do you know their names? We look into this and more. 

What example does the Bible give us when we ask about women in ministry? Men will look seriously on women in ministry. Women will be encouraged to practice their gifts.

Want to go deeper? We encourage you make sure your beliefs well grounded. Make sure you know what happened in Genesis chapters 2 and 3. Take The Eden Course. The link is a natural one: TheEdenCourse.com!

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

Jean Calvin in the 1500's decided that 'ezer kenegdo in Genesis 2:18 which referred to the woman who was to be created meant "cook's helper." He was wrong. Very wrong. Who was the woman? She was the "equal partner" of the man. These two together were to receive the creation mandate from God (se Genesis 1:28) to be fruitful and multiply and rule over the earth. 

Go deeper? One way is to enroll in the six Session, hour-long Zoom discussion group called The Eden Workshop on Genesis 2-3. Here's how: www.Tru316.com/workshop

The Tru316 Foundation(www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too.

YOU are encouraged to LISTEN to the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. The Eden Podcast is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and many others.

Are you a READER? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series.

• The Book of Eden, Genesis 2-3. God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.
• Beyond Eden, Ephesians 5:15-6:9. The Great Mystery Revealed: Mutually Submitting in Christ.
• Back to Eden, 1 Timothy 2:8-3:16. Corrected and Restored by Jesus the Faithful Word.
• Because of Eden, 1 Cor 11, 14 and 1 Peter 3. Quotations Refuted and Witnessing Spouses.

Prefer to study at your own speed? Purchase The Eden Course on Genesis 2-3! 

Ready to check out the Hebrew research in Dr. Joy Fleming’s 407-page dissertation? It is available HERE

Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner HERE: www.Tru316.com/partner

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

Should women teach men in church? People focus only on 1 Timothy 2:12. But wait! There's more!

• Verse 12 is only the second half of one long Greek sentence that starts with verse 11.
• Verse 12 is not the main idea of the sentence. The main idea is in verse 11. 
• Verse 11 refers to a subgroup of women - the wayward women overseers Timothy was to correct and restore to ministry.
• Paul is NOT saying that women should no teach men in church. Quite the contrary! 
• In verses 13-14 there is anachronistic use of the names Adam and Eve. 
• And the reference to each one in reverse order.
• Then in verse 15a Paul refers to Eve's saving faith in the promised Child.

Paul is obviously very familiar with the Hebrew text of Genesis 3:15-17. In that passage there are two singular collective singular nouns used: "offspring" and "pregnancy." Paul adds a third in 1 Timothy 2:15a with his reference to "the Childbearing."

If any verse deserves our focus in 1 Timothy 2:8-3:16 the focus should be on 1 Timothy 3:1a! It is Jesus, the faithful Word, who saves and restores to ministry anyone who desires that good work!

Go Deeper? Listen to Season Three of The Eden Podcast to dive deeper into the complete Section of the Letter of 1 Timothy that runs from 1:8-3:16! The transcripts will appear in 2022 as part of Book Three of The Eden Book Series joining The Book of Eden, Genesis 2-3 and the book Beyond Eden, Ephesians 5-6 by Bruce C. E. Fleming, founder of the Tru316 Project (Tru316.com).  

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

Have you found the Garden of Eden details in Genesis 2-3 to be a bit mixed or worse? Do we learn good news about God or bad news? The Hebrew text definitely presents us with good news. And it presents the bad news of the attack. Learn more about who did what and with what results. Was Eve cursed? Did God change the roles originally planned? All this and more in this discussion with Bruce C. E. Fleming of The Eden Podcast with popular podcaster Natalie Hoffman of the Flying Free Podcast.

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner

How does the Ephesians 5 passage relate to Genesis 2-3? What if people have misunderstood the positive message of the Garden of Eden? How does their interpretation of Ephesians 5 become twisted? Zach Miller, host of "What Your Pastor Didn't Tell You" interviews Bruce C. E. Fleming. Part 1. See the video with Graphics on our Tru316 YouTube Channel here: https://youtu.be/wOHaEaXKBs8

 The Tru316 Foundation (www.Tru316.com) is the home of The Eden Podcast with Bruce C. E. Fleming where we “true” the verse of Genesis 3:16. The Tru316 Message is that “God didn’t curse Eve (or Adam) or limit woman in any way.” Once Genesis 3:16 is made clear the other passages on women and men become clear too. You are encouraged to access the episodes of Seasons 1-11 of The Eden Podcast for teaching on the seven key passages on women and men. Are you a reader? We invite you to get from Amazon the four books by Bruce C. E. Fleming in The Eden Book Series (Tru316.com/trubooks). Would you like to support the work of the Tru316 Foundation? You can become a Tru Partner here: www.Tru316.com/partner