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08 Apr 2022Introduction to the DUTCH Podcast00:02:38

The DUTCH Podcast is a laid-back, relaxed space for integrative medicine providers and patients to expand their understanding of functional endocrinology testing and learn more about the body’s most complex communication system.

Subscribe to the DUTCH Podcast wherever you get your podcasts, and join us each week to hear from leaders in functional medicine like Jeff Bland, Tara Scott, and Deb Matthew. Along with our team of DUTCH experts, we'll bring you the basics of functional medicine and add a unique perspective to some very controversial topics.

19 Apr 2022Hormones and Hormone Testing: An Origin Story00:28:18

On this first episode, the President and Founder of Precision Analytical, Mark Newman, takes listeners back in time for a brief history of functional lab testing, and he explains the evolution of the DUTCH Test from it's creation ten years ago to what it's become today.

Mark will go over the basics of the different hormone tests currently being used by practitioners and he'll share the scientific research that led to the creation of the Dried Urine Test for Comprehensive Hormones - DUTCH.

26 Apr 2022Functional Medicine: Past, Present, and Future00:48:03

On this week's episode, we're honored to have the Godfather of Functional Medicine himself, Dr. Jeff Bland, with us to explore the evolution of the functional medicine industry.

 Listen in for an insightful and thought-provoking conversation between Mark Newman and Dr. Bland as they dive into how the functional medicine started, where the industry is headed, and how functional testing fits into the equation.

03 May 2022Coming of Age: Mapping the Reproductive Cycle00:40:13

In our first Ask the Expert segment, we are joined by Dr. Tara Scott, a nationally recognized authority on hormones and wellness. Dr. Scott will be answering Mark Newman's questions about the Reproductive Cycle that you’ve always been wondering. Backed by her extensive experience as an OB/GYN, she'll also bring you details and insights about the female reproductive system and the phases of the menstrual cycle. 

10 May 2022Understanding Menopause: From Peri to Post00:28:20

Dr. Tara Scott is back with us for a second Ask the Expert segment with Mark Newman. This week, she’ll walk us through the hormone transformations during peri-menopause and menopause. She provides research-based insights behind hormone replacement therapy, how the body changes during menopause, and what “aging gracefully” actually means. 

17 May 2022Endocrine Essentials: Progesterone00:42:24

This week, we’re joined by Dr. Bethany Hays, MD for Endocrine Essentials: Progesterone. Dr. Hays was a board-certified OB/GYN and practiced obstetrics for 29 years. In that time, she delivered thousands of babies and can explain the complexities of female hormones to anyone.  She will be answering Mark Newman’s questions to give you a high-level overview of progesterone: What is it? What does progesterone therapy do? and Who does it help? 

24 May 2022Endocrine Essentials: Estrogens00:35:03

On this week’s episode, we’re joined by the Director of Clinical Education for Precision Analytical, Dr. Debbie Rice, to explain estrogen and estrogen metabolism. Dr. Rice is an expert in female hormone health and will dive into the complexities of estrogen including where it’s created, how the body uses it, and what happens when there’s too much. Join us this week as we talk about the importance of estrogen and why it’s so often misunderstood. 

31 May 2022Endocrine Essentials: Female Androgens00:23:40

This week, Dr. Kelly Ruef is on the show discussing how the hormones that are most commonly thought of as “male hormones” present symptoms in female patients. You’ll learn more about what to look for on the DUTCH Test when assessing testosterone, DHEA-S, androsterone, and other androgens for female patients. 

07 Jun 2022Endocrine Essentials: Males & Testosterone00:44:14

In this week's episode, we're joined by Doreen Saltiel, MD, an expert on men’s health and testosterone. Mark Newman and Dr. Saltiel discuss men's health and review the research on testosterone therapy.  You'll hear her insights on the benefits of testosterone therapy for male patients, plus what to look for on the DUTCH Test to identify potential risk factors.  

14 Jun 2022What’s the Deal with the Pregnenolone Steal?01:14:36

We’re getting out of the shallow end of endocrine essentials and going deep into some controversial topics—so buckle up. Our Ask the Experts series is back this week with Tom Guilliams explaining the truth about Adrenal Fatigue and answering the question: Does chronic stress really “steal” pregnenolone to make cortisol? 

21 Jun 2022The Circadian Rhythm00:43:05

This week, we’re asking the expert, Dr. Deb Matthew, about the power of the circadian rhythm. She’ll talk about how cortisol, DHEA, and melatonin all work together to maintain a normal, healthy sleep and waking cycle. Plus learn what you can do to get your sleep back on track. 

28 Jun 2022Endocrine Essentials: Cortisol00:37:21

In this episode Dr. Christina O’Brien will be covering the CAR, metabolized cortisol and more. Cortisol is the stress hormone, and you can tell a lot about how someone manages stress by looking at the first hour of their day. The Cortisol Awakening Response - or CAR - acts as a mini stress test to show how your body uses cortisol to wake up and feel alert. Listen in to learn about cortisol and how to use the saliva cortisol curve to understand your patients' stress resilience.

05 Jul 2022Cortisol Patterns Through Case Studies00:26:02

This week, Dr. Ruef helps us break down the often-confusing business of testing cortisol. She and Mark Newman discuss how to interpret the results of DUTCH Tests to better help providers and patients reach their goals and solve specific cortisol-related issues. 

12 Jul 2022Endocrine Essentials: Oxidative Stress00:34:59

Dr. Allison Smith joins Mark Newman to discuss the nine organic acids available with DUTCH testing, which assist providers in evaluating nutrient deficiency or cellular oxidation. In this episode of the DUTCH Podcast, they focus primarily on the oxidative stress marker 8-hydroxy-2-deoxyguanosine, also known as 8-OHDG. 

19 Jul 2022Endocrine Essentials: DUTCH Testing Basics00:25:10

In this week’s installment of endocrine essentials, we highlight how the DUTCH Test can uncover hidden markers and help diagnose tough, hormone-related ailments like PCOS, endometriosis, Cushing’s disease, and more. Dr. Debbie Rice explains the connections between hormone imbalance and some of the most common symptoms facing patients today.  

16 Aug 2022Fertility & Cycle Mapping00:23:15

We are happy to unlock a bonus episode of the DUTCH Podcast to introduce our new Chief Medical Officer (CMO), Dr. Jaclyn Smeaton! In this episode, Dr. Smeaton and Mark Newman discuss fertility treatment using DUTCH Cycle Mapping. Our fertility expert, Dr. Smeaton, shares her insights to handling complex, cycle-related issues. Don’t forget to rate, review, and subscribe to the DUTCH Podcast to hear more about Season 2 coming soon. 

18 Oct 2022Research-Based Hormone Testing with Mark Newman, MS00:16:01

Season two kicks off with DUTCH Chief Medical Officer Jaclyn Smeaton, ND, discussing the latest hormone testing research with President and Founder of Precision Analytical, Mark Newman, MS. Tune in to learn how "meaningful differentiation" can help providers make more personalized treatment decisions, and more. 

25 Oct 2022Estrogen Detox Basics with Dr. Kelly Ruef00:25:43

Dr. Kelly Ruef is back and shares her knowledge and wisdom with Jaclyn Smeaton, ND, in this episode of the DUTCH Podcast. We get to hear the ins and outs of estrogen detoxification and how to best serve patients who are struggling with detox. Listen now to learn all about these pathways and how the DUTCH Test can help you assess your patient’s estrogen detox status. 

01 Nov 2022Testosterone and Androgen Basics with Dr. Debbie Rice00:26:11

Testosterone isn’t typically thought of as a “female hormone,” but research shows that women with healthy androgen levels preserve egg quality later in life. Testosterone and other androgens are important for wellbeing and fertility—for men and women. Listen along as Dr. Rice explains the role of androgens in a happy, healthy body.  

08 Nov 2022Using DUTCH for Prostate and Testosterone Health00:18:19

Jaclyn Smeaton and Dr. Geo Espinosa discuss men’s health and the applications of DUTCH testing to address patients with hypogonadism and evaluate the proper estrogen to testosterone balance. Listen now to hear about Dr. Espinosa’s passion for men’s health and how he uses the DUTCH Test in his practice. 

15 Nov 2022Rethinking our Approach to PCOS with Melissa Groves Azzaro00:34:32

PCOS is not just a reproductive disorder. In this episode of the DUTCH Podcast, Jaclyn Smeaton, ND, examines the nuances of PCOS with Melissa Groves Azzaro, founder of The Hormone Dietitian. They explain the possible root causes of PCOS and discuss a whole-body approach to treating this disease state. Their discussion is fascinating, listen now! 

22 Nov 2022Evaluating PCOS with the DUTCH Test00:14:47

From the beginning of her career to now, Melissa Groves Azzaro has been able to profoundly change the lives of thousands of patients with the insights provided through DUTCH testing. She and Dr. Jaclyn Smeaton discuss the ins and outs of DUTCH testing for PCOS and the wealth of knowledge available to providers through the DUTCH website. Listen now! 

29 Nov 2022Finding Comfort in the "Menopause Metamorphosis" with Esther Blum00:32:39

In this episode we talk about perimenopause with our guest Esther Blum!

As an integrative dietitian and menopause expert, Esther Blum, MS, RD, CDN, CNS, has helped thousands of women navigate the metamorphosis of menopause. For too long women have been told their discomfort during perimenopause and menopause is, “just the way it is.” Esther Blum isn’t having that. She preaches the importance of self-advocacy to her clients as they navigate the often uncertain terrain of perimenopause.

Dr. Jaclyn Smeaton interviews Esther on her hormone, diet, and lifestyle approach to treating the symptoms of perimenopause. Hear her three “meno-laws” for fat loss and other tips for transitioning into menopause successfully. Download the episode and listen now!

Esther’s three “meno-laws” for fat loss

  1. Optimize your protein intake
  2. Protein > carb ratio
  3. Carbs at night with dinner


More resources from Esther Blum

Find Esther’s books https://estherblum.com/books/

Esther Blum on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/gorgeousesther/

More DUTCH resources

Learn about 10 Days of DUTCH giveaways Nov 8 - Dec 10 https://dutchtest.com/ten-days-of-dutch/

DUTCH find-a-provider tool https://dutchtest.com/find-a-dutch-provider/

Sections and Timestamps

00:00 Introductions

04:59 The metamorphosis of menopause

11:32 The importance of adrenal function during perimenopause

16:20 Carb-phobia and the therapeutic benefits of carbohydrates

18:47 DUTCH Complete cortisol curve

24:14 Esther’s three “meno-laws” for fat loss

30:30 Conclusion

06 Dec 2022Stress, Hormones, and Chronic Disease with Dr. Will Cole00:32:28

Dr. Will Cole is the featured guest this week on the DUTCH Podcast and he and Jaclyn Smeaton, ND (DUTCH Chief Medical Officer) discuss chronic disease and its relationship to inflammation, stress, and hormone imbalances. 

Many patients with chronic disease have some HPA axis dysregulation. And the whole endocrine system is affected by poor cortisol function. Chronic stress can lead to the overproduction of cortisol, which is probably why this hormone is often labeled as “bad”. 

In reality, a cortisol increase can be seen as a marker for other issues in the body, such as chronic stress or illness. Dr. Cole and Dr. Smeaton discuss the Goldilocks principle of keeping cortisol levels “just right”.

Dr. Cole’s Favorite Lifestyle Recommendations to Support HPA Axis Function

  • Holy basil
  • Ashwagandha
  • Lion’s mane
  • Forest bathing
  • Caring for spiritual needs
  • Grounding 

DUTCH Plus Info Sheet
https://dutchtest.com/info-dutch-plus/

DUTCH CAR (cortisol awakening response)
https://dutchtest.com/info-dutch-plus/#cortisol-awakening-response

Dr. Will Cole’s website
https://drwillcole.com/

Dr. Cole’s latest book
https://drwillcole.com/gut-feelings

Find Dr. Cole on Instagram
https://www.instagram.com/drwillcole/


Sections and Timestamps

00:00     Intro

04:02     Dr. Cole asks if canine patients can use the DUTCH Test?

05:10     What sparked Dr. Cole’s interest in chronic disease treatment

08:17     Hormones play a huge part in the reason a patient feels poorly

11:02     HPA axis dysregulation 

15:09     Which came first—HPA axis dysregulation or illness?

17:29     Dr. Cole’s favorite DUTCH Test biomarkers

20:57     Dr. Cole’s lifestyle recommendations to support HPA axis

24:40     Thyroid issues and functional medicine approaches

30:46     Outro

13 Dec 2022Functional Medicine Q&A with Dr. Jeff Bland - Live from A4M World Congress in Las Vegas00:34:33

In a special edition of the DUTCH Podcast, host Jaclyn Smeaton, ND, joins Precision Analytical founder Mark Newman, MS, and Jeff Bland, PhD—the “father of functional medicine”—for a live Q&A session. They discuss the beginnings of the functional medicine industry and reflect on the various directions the field is taking.  

Dr. Bland and Dr. Smeaton uncover some of the barriers to a functional medicine approach. Functional medicine isn’t the same as traditional disease-state treatment. Dr. Bland suggests ways to approach these barriers with providers that don’t already practice functional medicine. 

  • Philosophical barriers 
  • Lack-of-proof barriers 
  • Economic barriers 

Tune in to take part in this informative discussion. The Q&A session brings up important topics like the effects of COVID-19 vaccine/infection on cycling women; as well as accurately interpreting saliva hormone results for patients on hormone creams/gels. 

Plus, hear the announcement for the grand prize winner for the 10 Days of DUTCH giveaway!  

Sections and Timestamps 

  • 00:00 -Intro 
  • 02:07- 10 Days of DUTCH Giveaway winner announced 
  • 04:10- Dr. Bland discusses the changes in functional medicine 
  • 08:30- Functional medicine treats the patients that traditional medicine ignores 
  • 11:45- Dr. Bland shares story from early in his career 
  • 12:30- Barriers to working with patients/providers that are new to the functional medicine model 
  • 16:52- Q&A Begins 
  • 18:41- Is there any effect on menstrual cycles for female patients post Covid-19 vaccination? 
  • 23:28- Are exaggerated testosterone levels in saliva after hormone creams/gels indicative of systemic availability? 
  • 29:30- What is the value of looking at hormone metabolites? 
  • 33:15- Conclusion 

Links 

Dr. Jeff Bland’s website
https://jeffreybland.com/ 

PLMI
https://plminstitute.org/ 

COVID-19 Research Referenced
https://bmjmedicine.bmj.com/content/bmjmed/1/1/e000297.full.pdf 

Become a DUTCH Provider
https://dutchtest.com/become-a-provider

Find a DUTCH Provider
https://dutchtest.com/find-a-dutch-provider/ 

20 Dec 2022Identifying and Treating Adrenal Dysfunction with Dr. Carrie Jones - Live from A4M World Congress in Las Vegas00:29:02

The Live from A4M World Congress podcast series continues with featured guest, Dr. Carrie Jones. You might recognize her from her time at Precision Analytical as the former Medical Director. In this episode, Dr. Jones shares how DUTCH and the functional medicine world have evolved to better understand the importance of hormone testing to identify and treat adrenal dysfunction. She discusses the beginnings of the DUTCH Test, and she, Jaclyn Smeaton, and Mark Newman talk about the importance of research to further evolve hormone testing.

00:00     Intro

03:55     Learning the importance of estrogen metabolism

07:35     The Stages of Stress (SOS) program

12:12     Introducing DUTCH Trust

18:29     Precision Analytical’s commitment to top-notch testing

25:00     DUTCH supports its testing in scientific literature

28:50     Conclusion

Dr. Carrie Jones 

http://www.drcarriejones.com/

LMRC Stages of Stress Program

https://www.lifestylematrix.com/clinical-programs#stress

DUTCH Research

https://dutchtest.com/research/

27 Dec 2022Ten Years of Profound Change - Live from A4M World Congress in Las Vegas00:21:37

Ten years after its inception, DUTCH Test founders Mark Newman and Andy Tyssen are here for our final live from A4M World Congress episode of the DUTCH Podcast. They reminisce on the origins of the DUTCH Test, the beginnings of their business, and the strides the business has made since the beginning. 

In this episode, we get to visit with some of the first DUTCH Test providers— Jeff and Lyn Holgrefe of the Happy Hormone Cottage. They talk about their introduction to DUTCH testing 10 years ago and how DUTCH has helped their patients find answers. Jeff and Lyn have shipped more than 10,000 DUTCH kits to their patients, thank you Happy Hormone Cottage! 

Precision Analytical Core Values 

https://dutchtest.com/about/ 

  • We care for our people. We will ALL actively prioritize taking care of our team, clients, and community. 
  • We will be transparent. We believe honest humility should characterize internal communication and how we represent our product. 
  • Always advancing. Our work is never done! We are committed to continual improvement in everything we do. 

Happy Hormone Cottage 

https://happyhormonecottage.com/ 

03 Jan 2023Beneficial Fasting for Women with Dr. Mindy Pelz00:28:14

Fasting and female hormones, this podcast has it all. In this episode of the DUTCH Podcast, host Jaclyn Smeaton, ND, interviews world-renowned hormone expert, Dr. Mindy Pelz, on the topic of intermittent fasting. Dr. Pelz dives into the unique role that fasting can play in hormone health, and shares tips on fasting for perimenopause. 

Women need to fast differently than men. Dr. Pelz explains the cycle of fasting that correlates with a woman’s menstrual cycle for optimal fasting and hormone success. Women can experience better sleep, and fewer perimenopausal symptoms when fasting appropriately. Don’t sleep on this episode, there is so much to learn! 

Sections and Time Stamps 

  • 00:00 - Intro 
  • 02:51 - How Mindy Pelz got into fasting 
  • 04:58 - What are the benefits of intermittent fasting for women? 
  • 08:20 - What does fasting do to estrogen? 
  • 14:30 - How do women need to do fasting differently than men? 
  • 20:20 - The goal is metabolic flexibility 
  • 22:05 - Fasting recommendations for perimenopause 
  • 25:20 - “Fast Like a Girl” book  
  • 26:28 - Conclusion


Fast Like a Girl
https://fastlikeagirl.com/ 

Mindy Pelz’s Youtube Channel
https://www.youtube.com/@DrMindyPelz 

Mindy Pelz’s Website
https://drmindypelz.com/ 

DUTCH Test 
https://dutchtest.com/ 

10 Jan 2023The Dangers of Environmental Toxins on Your Hormones with Dr. Joseph Pizzorno00:26:25

The natural medicine community has long benefited from the leadership of this week’s guest. Dr. Joseph Pizzorno has been practicing natural medicine for more than 40 years. He is an author, educator, and top-notch provider, and his bread and butter is studying environmental toxins. 

In this episode, Dr. Pizzorno and Dr. Smeaton discuss perchlorates and bisphenols, two prevalent environmental toxins that affect thyroid function. They also talk about the sneaky ways these toxins can show up in everyday life. 

This is part one of a two-part interview with Dr. Pizzorno. Stay tuned for more from him and Dr. Jaclyn Smeaton next week to hear about other toxins in our environment and how to avoid them. 

Timestamps and Sections 

  • 00:00Intro 
  • 02:15What sparked Dr. Pizzorno’s interest in environmental toxicology 
  • 07:56How does the impact of environmental toxins compare to diet in the diabetes epidemic? 
  • 09:30High toxic load increases risk of diabetes 
  • 11:20Herbicides are a culprit 
  • 14:28Perchlorate levels are inversely proportionate to thyroid hormone levels 
  • 18:18First research on bisphenols 
  • 25:00How to avoid BPAs 
  • 26:30Conclusion


Tips for avoiding BPAs 

  • Don’t freeze or heat food in plastic containers 
  • BPA free canned food 
  • Avoid heat sensitive paper (receipt paper) 
  • Avoid disposable coffee cups 
17 Jan 2023Avoiding Environmental Toxins in Your Everyday Life with Dr. Joseph Pizzorno00:30:01

Last week Dr. Smeaton and Dr. Pizzorno covered the science behind environmental toxins and how they affect our hormones. This week, they discuss how to avoid these toxins through lifestyle adjustments, treatment, and other methods.  

Environmental toxin avoidance recommendations from Dr. Pizzorno

  • Avoidance, avoidance, avoidance 
  • Eat organic 
  • Heirloom seeds for growing your own food 
  • Whole-house water filtration 
  • Whole-house air filtration 
  • Sauna weekly to sweat out toxins 
  • Increase fiber intake 
  • More avoidance! 

Listen now to hear the details of these recommendations and catch last week’s episode with Dr. Pizzorno wherever you get your podcasts. 


Sections and Timestamps 

  • 00:00Intro 
  • 01:28Everyone has measurable exposure to BPA 
  • 04:12You CAN reduce your toxic load through lifestyle adjustments 
  • 06:16Supplements can only supplement a fantastic diet 
  • 09:00Persistent vs non-persistent compounds 
  • 10:18Water, air, and food 
  • 13:44Unimportant molecules and heirloom seeds 
  • 18:17Plant-based foods and animal products 
  • 21:00Sweating toxins out 
  • 23:10Increasing fiber intake to detoxify 
  • 27:30 Conclusion
24 Jan 2023The Brain/Adrenal Connection: Understanding the HPA axis with Dr. Christina O'Brien00:17:46

Sometimes a traditional diurnal cortisol test isn’t enough to properly evaluate a patient. With the DUTCH Plus, the cortisol awakening response (CAR) gives additional insight into your patient’s stress response. A “mini stress test” the CAR takes snapshots in the minutes and hours after waking to paint a clearer picture of HPA axis function.

 In this episode of the DUTCH Podcast, Drs. Jaclyn Smeaton and Christina O’Brien discuss the value of the CAR in finding hidden points of dysregulation in patients. They cover typical cortisol testing procedure and dive into the benefits of measuring the CAR to enhance patient care.

 Sections and Timestamps

  •  00:00   Intro
  • 01:57   What’s the typical cortisol test?
  • 03:10   Why saliva for measuring the CAR?
  • 07:15   The CAR can identify dysfunction missed by typical diurnal curve
  • 10:00   Typical patterns of dysfunction on a CAR report
  • 13:05   When should providers order the DUTCH Plus vs the DUTCH Complete
  • 16:25   Conclusion

 

Additional Resources

 DUTCH Complete

https://dutchtest.com/info-dutch-complete/

 DUTCH Plus

https://dutchtest.com/info-dutch-plus/

 Cortisol Awakening Response (CAR)

https://dutchtest.com/info-dutch-plus/#cortisol-awakening-response

31 Jan 2023Understanding Hair Loss and Minimizing the Impact with Marcelle Pick, NP00:27:09

Marcelle Pick, OBGYN, NP is a functional medicine expert and has built her career in women’s health. Her approach to treating hair loss is detailed in this episode of the DUTCH Podcast.  

Hear Jaclyn Smeaton, ND, and Marcelle share their experiences treating hair loss. They dive into potential root causes of hair loss and discuss solutions to treat this sometimes-terrifying patient complaint. Marcelle shares some of her go-to nutritional supplement strategies for supporting hair growth, and she and Jaclyn offer advice on searching for reputable and effective supplements.  

Sections and Timestamps 

  • 00:00Intro 
  • 02:08Hair loss is alarming to most patients 
  • 04:00Causes of hair loss 
  • 06:04Nutrition for hair-health 
  • 11:58What is the typical evaluation for a patient experiencing hair loss? 
  • 17:19Shopping carefully for supplements 
  • 22:01DHT and hair loss 
  • 23:49Lifestyle suggestions for patients experiencing hair loss 
  • 26:09Outro 

Additional Resources
Marcelle Pick’s Website
https://marcellepick.com/ 

IFM.org — Marcelle Pick, NP
https://www.ifm.org/about/profile/marcelle-pick/ 

07 Feb 2023Libido and Hormone Balance in Men with Dr. Geo Espinosa00:30:23

Sexual wellness can be a sensitive topic. Libido is important for overall health and quality of life. When men struggle to get erections, it could be an indicator of arterial disease, endothelial disease, or diabetes.  

Our DUTCH Podcast guest Dr. Geo Espinosa is passionate about helping men achieve the life and health they desire. In this episode, he and Jaclyn Smeaton, ND, go over several approaches to treating low testosterone. They discuss the connections between low libido and systemic disease. And they highlight the importance of exercise in boosting testosterone.  

Tune in now to learn more.  

Time Stamps
00:00Intro 

04:13Evaluating male patients who complain of low libido 

08:05Dr. Espinosa doesn’t recommend aromatase inhibitors 

14:10Men do not become more aggressive with testosterone 

17:35Testosterone decreases each year after age 30 

21:38Top lifestyle strategies to support testosterone function 

28:34Outro 

Additional Resources
Diet and Lifestyle Recommendations from Dr. Geo 

  • Ashwagandha 
  • Higher fat/keto diet 
  • Decrease waist-to-hip ratio 
  • Strength training 
  • Lowering cortisol 
  • Supporting testosterone production 

Dr. Geo’s Website 

https://drgeo.com/ 

Integrative and Functional Urology Institute 

https://aw6f826.aweb.page/p/cb5f323b-65b8-4863-8aa2-9c2a48e4e92e 

14 Feb 2023Sex Ed & the Menstrual Cycle with Lindsey Szczepanski, NP00:39:09

Happy Valentine’s Day! This episode of the DUTCH Podcast is sex ed for adults. There is an overwhelming gap in knowledge surrounding the menstrual cycle. Dr. Jaclyn Smeaton and Lindsey Szczepanski, NP get back to the basics with a complete menstrual cycle overview. 

Lindsey and Dr. Smeaton cover what menstrual symptoms are considered “normal” for cycling, pre-, and postmenopausal women. And even spend time discussing male sexual health, including libido and testosterone.  

Don’t be shy—we’d love for you to listen to this episode! 

 

Sections and Timestamps 

  • 00:00Intro 
  • 04:13Cervical mucus NOT a yeast infection 
  • 07:18Educating patients on the menstrual cycle 
  • 10:50Normal cycle: bleeding 
  • 15:48Normal cycle: cervical mucus changes 
  • 18:45Male libido 
  • 25:08HRT testing and suggestions 
  • 32:35What women need to know about their cycles 
  • 35:35Vasectomy follow-up 
  • 38:08Conclusion 

 

Additional Resources 

The Sex and Stress Connection
https://dutchtest.com/2023/01/18/the-sex-and-stress-connection/ 

Listen to more of the DUTCH Podcast
https://dutchtest.com/podcast/ 

Monitoring HRT with DUTCH Test
https://dutchtest.com/2022/08/26/new-peer-reviewed-data-shows-the-reliability-of-urine-hormone-testing-to-monitor-hrt/ 

 

21 Feb 2023A Roadmap for the Menstrual Cycle with Kelsey Stang, ND00:25:50

Each phase of the menstrual cycle is intertwined with the phase that came before and the one coming after—a continuous loop of natural hormone fluctuations. Our guest, Dr. Kelsey Stang and host Dr. Jaclyn Smeaton uncover the role of each hormone in the cycle and share what exactly occurs in the female body during each phase. 

Women are empowered with knowledge when they understand their menstrual cycle. And with expert hormone education like the discussion in this podcast, providers and patients can be better equipped to notice when symptoms deviate from normal. 

 

Sections and Timestamps 

  • 00:00Intro 
  • 03:34Understanding menstrual cycle phases 
  • 06:15Luteal phase description 
  • 11:46HPO axis 
  • 14:05Progesterone’s role in the cycle 
  • 16:55Signs to notice throughout the cycle 
  • 21:00DUTCH Test options 
  • 24:50 Conclusion

 

Additional Resources 

Get to know Dr. Kelsey Stang, ND
drkelseystang.com  

Interpreting Specific Examples of Cycle Mapping Reports
https://dutchtest.com/video/interpreting-specific-examples-of-cycle-mapping-results/ 

DUTCH Cycle Mapping
https://dutchtest.com/info-cycle-mapping/  

DUTCH Complete
https://dutchtest.com/info-dutch-complete/  

DUTCH Plus
https://dutchtest.com/info-dutch-plus/  

28 Feb 2023Oral Contraceptives: the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly with Rebecca Clemson, ND00:35:11

Oral contraceptive pills (OCPs), or “the pill,” revolutionized women’s healthcare in 1950. Now, almost 75 years later, women and their practitioners are asking questions. In this thought-provoking episode of the DUTCH Podcast, Dr. Jaclyn Smeaton and Dr. Rebecca Clemson compare and contrast the usefulness of the pill with some of its side effects.  

You can join the conversation on the good and bad of birth control. Listen now! 


Sections and Timestamps 

  • 00:00Intro 
  • 04:10The pill to “fix” female problems 
  • 08:02Uses for the pill 
  • 12:10The pill is not benign 
  • 18:20Cardiovascular risks and the pill 
  • 19:56When should a patient take an OCP? 
  • 24:50Endometriosis and OCPs 
  • 27:41How to do birth control right 
  • 34:15Conclusion
07 Mar 2023New Research on the Validity of Urine Testing for HRT00:51:03

It’s time to wrap up season two of the DUTCH Podcast. As season two comes to a close, Dr. Jaclyn Smeaton, ND, talks with DUTCH founder, Mark Newman, MS, about new peer-reviewed research and the functional hormone testing model as a whole. They dive into the strengths of the DUTCH Test, what sets DUTCH apart from competitors, and explore the methodology that makes DUTCH a leader in the integrative medicine world. 

This season is packed with great insights from leaders in the functional medicine community. Listen now to hear our final season two episode! 

Sections and Timestamps 

  • 00:00Intro 
  • 06:57Recent journal publication 
  • 24:08DUTCH stays focused on its methodology 
  • 30:25DUTCH keeps OATs markers small 
  • 44:05Comparing DUTCH to other labs 
  • 50:00Conclusion 


Show Notes 

Recent Peer-Review
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36414155/
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0039128X22000769 

“Not Withing Spitting Distance” Article
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36527751/ 

DUTCH Research
https://dutchtest.com/research/ 

Check Out Other DUTCH Podcast Episodes
https://dutchtest.com/podcast/ 

09 May 2023Bonus Episode - The "Unexpected" Power of Functional Medicine with Dr. Jill Carnahan, MD00:25:36

Jill Carnahan, MD, joins Dr. Jaclyn Smeaton to discuss the transformational change functional medicine can bring to patients, and they explore the new book, "Unexpected: Finding Resilience Through Functional Medicine, Science, and Faith".

If you're attending American Academy of Anti-Aging Medicine 2023 Spring Congress, join DUTCH and Dr. Carnahan for a meet and greet at our booth and to receive a free signed copy of her book.

About our Speaker:
Dr. Jill Carnahan is dually board certified in Family Medicine for 10 years and in Integrative Holistic Medicine. She is the founder and Medical Director of Flatiron Functional Medicine, a widely sought-after practice with a broad range of clinical services including functional medical consulting, chiropractic therapy, physical therapy, naturopathic medicine, acupuncture, and therapeutic massage.

Dr. Carnahan's Website: Dr. Jill Carnahan Flatiron Functional Medicine - Jill Carnahan, MD
Learn about her new book: Unexpected - Dr. Jill Unexpected (readunexpected.com)

18 Jul 2023Understanding Cortisol Curves with Kaitlin Tyre, ND00:18:55

Stress can be real or perceived, the body doesn’t recognize the difference! That’s why it’s so important to manage stress and evaluate cortisol when your patients present with chronic stress symptoms.  

On this episode of DUTCH Summer School, we’re joined by Kaitlin Tyre, ND, a clinical educator here at DUTCH for some talk on cortisol curves. She and Jaclyn break down what cortisol curve patterns to look for in each DUTCH report and talk about stress management techniques that can help patients improve their stress response. 


Show Notes 

Are you interested in becoming a DUTCH provider?  

You can sign up to become one today at www.dutchtest.com/providers. DUTCH providers have exclusive access to one-on-one consultations with DUTCH clinical educators, group mentorship sessions, and free educational resources like the DUTCH Interpretive Guide and the Mastering Functional Hormone Testing course.  

Become a provider today to take your first step toward becoming a hormone expert. 


25 Jul 2023What is a Flat CAR Trying to Tell You?00:21:09

It’s time for more cortisol curve talk with guest Kelly Ruef, ND. Join DUTCH Podcast host Jaclyn Smeaton, ND, as she and Dr. Ruef get to the bottom of flat cortisol curves. They highlight two distinct patterns to look for on the DUTCH Test and dive into nutritional and botanical support considerations to help get these kinds of patients healthy again. 

There’s so much packed into this episode. You’ll be glad you listened! 

Show Notes 


Are you interested in becoming a DUTCH provider?  

You can sign up to become one today at www.dutchtest.com/providers. DUTCH providers have exclusive access to one-on-one consultations with DUTCH clinical educators, group mentorship sessions, and free educational resources like the DUTCH Interpretive Guide and the Mastering Functional Hormone Testing course.  

Become a provider today to take your first step toward becoming a hormone expert. 

01 Aug 2023Hormones and Intermittent Fasting with Kelsey Hojara, RD00:24:34

Intermittent fasting can be a valuable tool for providers caring for patients with PCOS.  

In this episode, Jaclyn Smeaton, ND, and Kelsey Hojara, RD, discuss the pros and pitfalls of intermittent fasting. They offer suggestions for when it may be beneficial for patients to implement fasting, and some cases for when to avoid it. 

If you’re thinking about recommending intermittent fasting but don’t know where to start, then this episode is for you!

Show Notes 

Are you interested in becoming a DUTCH provider?  

You can sign up to become one today at www.dutchtest.com/providers. DUTCH providers have exclusive access to one-on-one consultations with DUTCH clinical educators, group mentorship sessions, and free educational resources like the DUTCH Interpretive Guide and the Mastering Functional Hormone Testing course.  

Become a provider today to take your first step toward becoming a hormone expert. 

08 Aug 2023Estrogen Dominance Signs & Symptoms with Rebecca Clemson, ND00:30:46

Our Summer School guest for this episode is Dr. Rebecca Clemson. She breaks down the topic of estrogen dominance and highlights some of its hallmark signs and symptoms. Host Jaclyn Smeaton, ND, and Dr. Clemson discuss the DUTCH Test results of a 37-year-old female who’s experiencing symptoms akin to PMDD and demonstrate how estrogen dominance could be at play.  


Show Notes 

Download the Case Study from this episode

For more information about the DUTCH Test, visit our website! www.dutchtest.com 

Sign up to become a DUTCH provider today at www.dutchtest.com/providers. DUTCH providers have exclusive access to one-on-one consultations with DUTCH clinical educators, group mentorship sessions, and free educational resources like the DUTCH Interpretive Guide and the Mastering Functional Hormone Testing course.  

DUTCH Blog: Symptoms and Support of Low Progesterone 

15 Aug 2023Estrogen Metabolism and Breast Cancer Risk with Lindsey Szczepanski, NP00:25:58

Did you know that even when hormone levels may appear normal, inefficient estrogen metabolism could be a factor in symptoms related to estrogen dominance? Estrogen dominance is a risk factor for breast cancer, but the good news is it’s modifiable.  

Learn how to help patients improve their estrogen metabolism in today’s episode of Summer School featuring Lindsey Szczepanski, NP. 


Show Notes
Download the Case Study from this episode.

For more information about the DUTCH Test, visit our website! www.dutchtest.com 

Sign up to become a DUTCH provider today at www.dutchtest.com/providers. DUTCH providers have exclusive access to one-on-one consultations with DUTCH clinical educators, group mentorship sessions, and free educational resources like the DUTCH Interpretive Guide and the Mastering Functional Hormone Testing course.  

DUTCH Blog: Estrogen + Microbiome = Estrobolome 


22 Aug 2023Linking Organic Acids to Sex and Adrenal Hormones with Christina O'Brien, DC00:20:42

Nutritional markers are a great way to evaluate a patient’s nutritional status. Join us for a DUTCH Podcast Summer School episode all about the nutritional markers found on the organic acids (OATs) panel of the DUTCH Test.  

Host Jaclyn Smeaton, ND, interviews our guest Christina O’Brien, DC, on all things OATs. They talk about where each OATs marker comes from and how they earned their place on the DUTCH Test. Jaclyn and Christina also chat about the potential nutrient deficiencies associated with the various OATs markers, and suggestions for repleting deficient nutrients.  


Show Notes 

For more information about the DUTCH Test, visit our website! www.dutchtest.com

Sign up to become a DUTCH provider today at www.dutchtest.com/providers. DUTCH providers have exclusive access to one-on-one consultations with DUTCH clinical educators, group mentorship sessions, and free educational resources like the DUTCH Interpretive Guide and the Mastering Functional Hormone Testing course.  

DUTCH Blog: Organic Acid Biomarkers Reveal Clues to Patient Wellness 

DUTCH Webinar: New Organic Acids to Improve Patient Protocols 

29 Aug 2023PCOS Patterns and Protocols with Brook Ahnemann, ND00:22:01

In this episode of Summer School, Dr. Smeaton talks all things PCOS with Brook Ahnemann, ND, a hormone expert and clinical educator at DUTCH. The PCOS diagnostic criteria seem to be a moving target; they’re constantly changing! Luckily, there are some DUTCH Test patterns you can look out for to support your patients with PCOS.  


Show Notes 

Download the Case Study from this episode.

For more information about the DUTCH Test, visit our website! www.dutchtest.com 

Sign up to become a DUTCH provider today at www.dutchtest.com/providers. DUTCH providers have exclusive access to one-on-one consultations with DUTCH clinical educators, group mentorship sessions, and free educational resources like the DUTCH Interpretive Guide and the Mastering Functional Hormone Testing course.  

DUTCH Blog: Improving Treatment Plans for PCOS and Pregnancy 


19 Sep 2023Practical Approaches to Stress Management with Deb Matthew, MD00:38:41

Slow, sluggish mornings followed by sleepless nights should not be the norm—yet for many patients, this is their experience. 

In this episode of the DUTCH Podcast, host Jaclyn Smeaton, ND, and guest Deb Matthew, MD, talk about the profound impact that stress and cortisol have on overall wellness. They discuss how dysfunction precedes disease and why it’s crucial to nip HPA axis dysfunction in the bud before it causes long-term, chronic health problems.

They share all about the nitty-gritty of the HPA axis, circadian rhythm, and how sex hormones, thyroid hormones, and adrenal hormones are all interconnected. Plus, Dr. Matthew reveals some of her go-to recommendations for stress management.

Show Notes
Dr. Matthew’s Stress Reduction Recommendations

-          Gratitude journaling

-          Breathing exercises

-          Walking outdoors

-          Self-care and relaxation 

Visit Dr. Matthew’s website https://drdeborahmatthew.com/.

Become a DUTCH provider and profoundly change your patients’ lives through comprehensive hormone testing.

Read the DUTCH Blog to learn more:

Assessing Chronic Fatigue with the Cortisol Awakening Response

Circadian Rhythm and Human Health

You Need Free Cortisone and Metabolized Cortisol to Evaluate HPA Axis Health

26 Sep 2023Whole-Body Approaches to Thyroid Dysfunction with Dr. Filomena Trindade00:43:57

In this enlightening episode of the DUTCH Podcast, we delve deep into the intricate world of thyroid health and its profound influence on our overall well-being. Dr. Filomena Trindade, a renowned expert in functional medicine, takes listeners on a journey through the fascinating complexities of thyroid dysfunction and its far-reaching impact on our hormonal symphony. Along with our host, Dr. Jaclyn Smeaton, she illustrates the interconnectedness of the HPA axis, sex hormones, and thyroid function, painting a comprehensive picture of how these elements affect one another.  

This episode will challenge your understanding of thyroid reference ranges, revealing that these ranges aren't always reliable indicators of dysfunction and she gives practical lifestyle recommendations to help treat thyroid dysfunction before disease sets in. She advocates for a colorful diet rich in phytonutrients, soluble fiber, and essential minerals like selenium and zinc. Hydration, movement, restful sleep, and joy-inducing hobbies all play key roles in maintaining a harmonious hormonal symphony. 

 

Show Notes 

Visit Dr. Trindade (Dr. T) Online: www.drtrindade.com  

Become a DUTCH provider and profoundly change your patients’ lives through comprehensive hormone testing. 

Learn more about the Mastering Functional Hormone Testing Course – free to registered DUTCH providers! 

03 Oct 2023New Perspectives on Breast Cancer Screening with Dr. Tara Scott00:45:05

In this episode of the DUTCH Podcast, Dr. Tara Scott, MD, joins us for an enlightening discussion about the changing landscape of breast cancer screening, estrogen metabolism, and hormone testing. As a classically trained OB/GYN, Dr. Scott explains how the allopathic medical community isn’t given the tools to monitor hormone levels or cycle fluctuations for female patients. She wants to change this and has started Revitalize Academy to teach providers how monitoring hormone metabolism can help them find breast cancer risk factors early on and create treatment plans to optimize estrogen detoxification. 

This week, Dr. Scott and host, Dr. Jaclyn Smeaton, will cover important topics like estrogen replacement therapy, genetic testing, and why physicians should look beyond serum testing to understand what’s going on with their patients. Tune in to hear about the latest research in breast cancer screening and change the way you think about estrogen – it's not a four-letter word anymore. 

 

Show Notes 

Hormone Guru Academy: www.hormone-guru.com   

@hormonegurumd on Instagram and @hormoneguru on TikTok 

Become a DUTCH provider and profoundly change your patients’ lives through comprehensive hormone testing. 

Learn more about the Mastering Functional Hormone Testing Course – free to registered DUTCH providers! 

Watch Dr. Tara Scott on the DUTCH Webinar from October 2022: An Integrative Approach to Breast Cancer 

Related Articles from the DUTCH Blog 

Monitoring HRT with a Dried Urine Hormone Test - DUTCH Test 

Breast Cancer Risk Factors to Look For on the DUTCH Test - DUTCH Test 

Evaluating Estrogen Detoxification to Understand Breast Cancer Risk - DUTCH Test 

10 Oct 2023Taking an Integrative Approach to Breast Health with Dr. Lauren Young, ND00:34:15

Breast health is a topic often overlooked in conventional medicine. In this new episode of the DUTCH Podcast, we don’t shy away from tackling this vital aspect of women's health. Join us as we explore breast health from an integrative perspective with Dr. Lauren Young, ND, a passionate advocate for empowering patients to take control of their health. 

Traditional medicine often focuses on screening for diseases, but Dr. Young recognizes that many women don't fit the disease model but still require support and guidance. It's all too common for conventional doctors to rule out cancer, and then not have the appropriate tools to address breast pain. 

There are hormonal, dietary, and structural factors that contribute to breast pain and providers must investigate the root cause using a comprehensive approach. You can't just take a pill! Healing involves examining various components, including diet, genetics, family history, and lifestyle. 

Join us for this eye-opening conversation with Dr. Lauren Young, ND, as we take a holistic and integrative approach to understanding and improving breast health! 


Register for this month’s DUTCH Webinar with Dr. Lauren Young!  
Breast Health and Hormones: Going Beyond Cancer Prevention 

Find Dr. Young’s Clinical Practice at www.Ctnaturalhealth.com  

Follow Dr. Young’s “Your Health Toolkit” podcast: www.ctnaturalhealth.com/podcast 

Become a DUTCH provider and profoundly change your patients’ lives through comprehensive hormone testing.  

Learn more about the Mastering Functional Hormone Testing Course – free to registered DUTCH providers! 

Related Articles from the DUTCH Blog   

Integrative Support for Patients with Fibrocystic Breasts 

Breast Cancer, Nutrigenomics, and Estrogen Detoxification 

17 Oct 2023Estrogen Basics with Dr. Allison Smith00:33:07

Estrogen might make some providers nervous, but estrogen refers to a group of hormones that are fundamentally important to health and well-being. Every cell type in the body has estrogen receptors, and understanding how estrogen is secreted and metabolized gives providers a lot of information about their patients’ health.  

With host Jaclyn Smeaton, Dr. Allison Smith introduces us to the different forms of estrogen and sheds light on how understanding estrogen metabolism can offer valuable insights into how our tissues utilize this vital hormone. Dr. Smith explains why estrogen sometimes gets a bad rap and examines the factors contributing to this perception, including the role of environmental pollutants that mimic estrogen in the body. We learn about the importance of screening for and eliminating these xenoestrogens from our lives to promote better hormonal health. 

October is Breast Cancer Awareness Month and understanding what happens in the body when estrogen is metabolized is crucial to gaining valuable insights into cancer risk and prevention. 

 

Show Notes 

Become a DUTCH provider and profoundly change your patients’ lives through comprehensive hormone testing.  

Learn more about the Mastering Functional Hormone Testing Course – free to registered DUTCH providers!

Find more estrogen resources from the DUTCH Blog

Estrogen + Microbiome = Estrobolome 

Evaluating Estrogen Detoxification to Understand Breast Cancer Risk 

Know Your Lab’s Reference Ranges When Prescribing Estrogen Therapy 

24 Oct 2023Controversies and Contributions to Estrogen Load with Dr. Andrew Rostenberg, DC00:36:38

In this episode of the DUTCH Podcast, Dr. Andrew Rostenberg shares his perspective on the risks that can arise when environmental estrogens disrupt our natural estrogen balance.  When out of balance, estrogen can impact our physique, how we age, and our overall health. As Dr. Rostenberg explains, due to the inundation of environmental estrogenic influences from sources like heavy metals, mold toxins, and cosmetics, many patients are grappling with endocrine disruptions that affect other systems throughout the body.   

Tune in to hear insights into the symptoms of estrogen imbalance in both men and women, and the pivotal role the gallbladder plays in metabolizing estrogen in our bodies. Dr. Rostenberg also emphasizes that our genes don't dictate our fate, and we have plenty of tools available to reduce our environmental exposures and combat the effects of estrogen excess. 

 

Show Notes: 

Learn more about Dr. Andrew Rostenberg and his Boise, ID clinic: www.redmountainclinic.com  

Access his online coaching site:  WellPower where you can also find his book “Your Genius Body” 

Become a DUTCH provider and profoundly change your patients’ lives through comprehensive hormone testing.  

Learn more about the Mastering Functional Hormone Testing Course – free to registered DUTCH providers!  

Watch Dr. Andrew Rostenberg on the DUTCH Webinar from August 2022: “The Detox Gene” and Estrogen. 

Related Articles from the DUTCH Blog  

Breast Cancer Risk Factors to Look for on the DUTCH Test 

Evaluating Estrogen Detoxification to Understand Breast Cancer Risk 

31 Oct 2023Making the Most of Menopause with Anna Cabeca, DO00:35:37

“Menopause is mandatory, but suffering is optional”. In this thought-provoking episode of the DUTCH Podcast, Dr. Anna Cabeca, DO, provides an uplifting perspective on the transformative journey of menopause. Along with our host, Dr. Jaclyn Smeaton, they explore the many hormones involved in menopausal symptoms and how patients should feel empowered to control they’re health and wellbeing through this “Second Spring” phase of life.  

Learn how progesterone, DHEA, cortisol, and oxytocin all play a role in the common symptoms of menopause including fatigue, weight gain, and hot flashes. You'll also learn about the vital role of insulin resistance and diet in shaping menopausal experiences across different cultures. Dr. Cabeca emphasizes the importance of hormone monitoring and holistic approaches to patient care including hormone “replenishment” therapy. Tune in to think differently about menopause and see if from a brighter perspective. 

31 Oct 2023Diving into Menopausal HRT with Anna Cabeca, DO00:20:15

In this episode of the DUTCH podcast, Dr. Jaclyn Smeaton continues her talk with Dr. Anna Cabeca to tackle the complicated subject of hormone replenishment during menopause. Their conversation centers around how to best care for postmenopausal patients with a particular focus on hormone application, dosing, and monitoring. Dr. Cabeca explains the special attention needed when deciding what kind of test to use and when to use it.  

 You’ll also hear about new research published in the journal Menopause that highlights the potential clinical validity and utility of urine metabolite testing for transdermal estrogen replacement therapy, offering a viable alternative to serum testing. 

07 Nov 2023New Perspectives on Anti-Aging Medicine with Dr. Kara Fitzgerald, ND00:47:12

Join us as Dr. Kara Fitzgerald bridges the gap between epigenetics and functional medicine with her fascinating research on diet and lifestyle interventions that can slow the rate of aging. Discover how the foods we eat and how we live our lives can directly impact epigenetics and DNA methylation, leading to changes in the biological clock. Dr. Fitzgerald details her groundbreaking study from her new book “Younger You” that challenges long-standing beliefs about aging and reveals that even though living forever isn’t possible, living well for longer is within reach. 

 Tune in to learn more about: 

  • Dr. Fitzgerald's journey into the research of aging. 
  • How epigenetics, the switchboard for our genes, plays a pivotal role in aging. 
  • The influence of lifestyle choices, particularly diet, on DNA methylation. 
  • Key takeaways from Dr. Fitzgerald’s pioneering study on bio-age reversal and its implications. 
  • The efficacy of the Mediterranean diet in influencing the aging process. 
  • Practical recommendations for promoting favorable methylation patterns, including daily vegetable intake and modest exercise. 
  • The significance of active stress management and its connection to accelerated aging. 

  

Show Notes

Learn more about Dr. Kara Fitzgerald and buy her new book “Younger You” 

Connect with Dr. Kara Fitzgerald on social media: @drkarafitzgerald 

Access Dr. Robert Sapolsky’s research on Stress and Aging  

Become a DUTCH provider and profoundly change your patients’ lives through comprehensive hormone testing. 

Learn more about the Mastering Functional Hormone Testing Course – free to registered DUTCH providers! 

Follow DUTCH on Social Media: @dutchtest 

14 Nov 2023HPA axis: A Whole-Body Stress Response System with Tom Guilliams, PhD00:44:12

Did you know the HPA axis manages all body systems and functions like an emergency response vehicle when stressors occur? Or that early life stressors can have permanent effects on the HPA axis? Hear this and more on today’s episode of the DUTCH Podcast. 

In this episode, host Jaclyn Smeaton, ND, and guest Tom Guilliams, PhD, sit down for some thought-provoking dialogue on all things stress. They discuss the misrepresentation of adrenal fatigue and how it erroneously gained traction due to poor salivary cortisol testing. And they talk about trusted resources providers can turn to when they want to learn more about the body’s complex stress response system.  


Show Notes 

Books to learn more about the HPA axis: 

  • The Role of Stress and the HPA axis in Chronic Disease Management (Guilliams) 
  • Integrative Medicine (Rakel) 
  • Why Zebras Don’t Get Ulcers (Sapolsky) 

Learn more about Tom Guilliams' work  https://www.pointinstitute.org/ 

Become a DUTCH provider and profoundly change your patients’ lives through comprehensive hormone testing. 

Read the DUTCH Blog to learn more about hormone health. 

21 Nov 2023Replay - What's the Deal with the Pregnenolone Steal? with Tom Guilliams, PhD01:13:59

This week, we're replaying our most popular episode of all time. Season One's "What's the Deal with the Pregnenolone Steal?" dives into the controversy around Adrenal Fatigue. Hear from Tom Guilliams, PhD, an expert in cortisol and the HPA axis, about how the brain is responsible for signaling the cortisol response, and why the adrenal glands don’t just “steal” pregnenolone to make cortisol.

Show Notes 

Books to learn more about the HPA axis: 

  • The Role of Stress and the HPA axis in Chronic Disease Management (Guilliams) 
  • Integrative Medicine (Rakel) 
  • Why Zebras Don’t Get Ulcers (Sapolsky) 

Visit Tom Guilliams’ website https://www.pointinstitute.org/ 

Become a DUTCH provider and profoundly change your patients’ lives through comprehensive hormone testing. 

Read the DUTCH Blog to learn more about hormone health. 

Assessing Chronic Fatigue with the Cortisol Awakening Response 

Circadian Rhythm and Human Health 

You Need Free Cortisone and Metabolized Cortisol to Evaluate HPA Axis Health 

28 Nov 2023Premature Ovarian Insufficiency: Signs and Symptoms with Dr. Stefani Hayes, ND, LAc00:39:02

Dr. Stefani Hayes is a naturopathic physician and acupuncturist who specializes in helping fertility patients. In this week’s episode, she joins Dr. Smeaton to dive into a very mysterious aspect of infertility called Premature Ovarian Insufficiency (POI). POI is becoming an increasingly frequent problem in women and, unfortunately, it’s typically identified far very late when it’s already progressed through the disease process. We don’t know for sure why it happens, but we do know that POI has impacts on a patient’s overall hormone health, so we need to understand it.  

You'll hear why infertility is a lot like the canary in the coal mine that can help providers get a clearer picture of the trajectory of their patients' health. Plus, you’ll learn what to look for when assessing POI, why this could be happening, and what you can do about it. 

 

Show Notes 

Learn more about Dr. Hayes and Kwan Yin Healing Arts Center: Dr. Stefani Hayes, ND, L.Ac. (she, her, hers) - Kwan Yin Healing Arts 

Become a DUTCH provider and profoundly change your patients’ lives through comprehensive hormone testing. 

Learn more about the Mastering Functional Hormone Testing Course – free to registered DUTCH providers! 

Follow DUTCH on Social Media: @dutchtest 

05 Dec 2023Diving into the Research on HRT Monitoring with Mark Newman, MS00:41:26

How to best monitor hormone replacement therapy is hotly debated in the integrative medicine community, and unfortunately, common practice is not always supported by research. This week, the president and founder of Precision Analytical, Mark Newman, MS, joins Dr. Jaclyn Smeaton to help you understand the best approach to monitoring hormone replacement therapies. You’ll learn why you should monitor, which tests are effective, and they’ll dive into the research about monitoring with serum, saliva, and urine. 

Newly published research in the journal Menopause is the first peer-reviewed study to compare FDA approved patches and gels to compounded estrogen creams, and highlights the accuracy of urine metabolite testing for monitoring of estrogen replacement therapies. Listen in to understand the implications of this new study so you can feel more confident when caring for patients facing menopausal hormone decline. 

 

Show Notes
Watch the full recording from our November DUTCH Webinar.

Read more about the latest DUTCH research published in Menopause 

Discover even more peer-reviewed research validating DUTCH and learn how DUTCH Trust can help you feel more confident in your treatment decisions. 

Become a DUTCH provider and profoundly change your patients’ lives through comprehensive hormone testing. 

Learn more about the Mastering Functional Hormone Testing Course – free to registered DUTCH providers! 

12 Dec 2023PCOS with Felice Gersh, MD (Part 1): Physiology and History00:25:28

Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome (PCOS) affects between 10%-20% of reproductive-aged women. While this can be a very difficult diagnosis for women these days, there are evolutionary benefits that may have led to its proliferation.  

Host Jaclyn Smeaton, ND, unpacks the physiology and human history of PCOS with guest Dr. Felice Gersh, MD, in this groundbreaking episode of the DUTCH Podcast. They dive into the possible causes of PCOS and the various “types” of PCOS that are affecting female patients today. In fact, there is so much to uncover about PCOS that we had to split it into two episodes! Check back next week to hear part two of this interview.

Show Notes

Become a DUTCH provider and profoundly change your patients’ lives through comprehensive hormone testing. 

Visit Dr. Felice Gersh’s website https://integrativemgi.com/ 

Read the DUTCH Blog to learn more about hormone health. 

19 Dec 2023PCOS with Felice Gersh, MD (Part 2): Diet and Lifestyle Interventions00:45:41

The DUTCH Podcast is back for part two of this fascinating conversation about PCOS with expert practitioner Dr. Felice Gersh, MD! In the second installment of this interview, Dr. Gersh and DUTCH Podcast host Jaclyn Smeaton, ND, dive into the lifestyle interventions that can support women with PCOS. From strategic eating windows to stress-reduction techniques and other diet recommendations, this episode is full of suggestions to help patients with PCOS thrive. 


Show Notes 

Become a DUTCH provider and profoundly change your patients’ lives through comprehensive hormone testing. 

Visit Dr. Felice Gersh’s website https://integrativemgi.com/ 

Read the DUTCH Blog to learn more about hormone health. 

26 Dec 2023Replay - The Brain/Adrenal Connection with Christina O'Brien, DC00:17:46

In this replay of an episode from Season 2, Dr. Jaclyn Smeaton welcomes Dr. Christina O'Brien to the show to dive into cortisol and the HPA axis.

Sometimes a traditional diurnal cortisol test isn’t enough to properly evaluate a patient. With the DUTCH Plus, the cortisol awakening response (CAR) gives additional insight into your patient’s stress response. A “mini stress test” the CAR takes snapshots in the minutes and hours after waking to paint a clearer picture of HPA axis function. 

 

In this episode, Christina O’Brien, DC, discusses the value of the CAR in finding hidden points of dysregulation in patients. She and Dr. Smeaton cover typical cortisol testing procedure and dive into the benefits of measuring the CAR to enhance patient care. 

 

Show Notes

DUTCH Complete 

https://dutchtest.com/info-dutch-complete/ 

 

DUTCH Plus 

https://dutchtest.com/info-dutch-plus/ 

 

Cortisol Awakening Response (CAR) 

https://dutchtest.com/info-dutch-plus/#cortisol-awakening-response 

 

09 Jan 2024DUTCH in 2024: A Year of Profound Change00:38:44

In this week's episode, Dr. Jaclyn Smeaton and Mark Newman, MS reflect on the DUTCH team’s advancements in hormone education and research in 2023, plus they give insights for what’s to come in the year ahead. Listen in to hear more about the Mastering Functional Hormone Testing course and DUTCH Interpretive Guide that became available to DUTCH providers in 2023. They also explain the significance of two groundbreaking research studies including the first peer-reviewed study comparing FDA-approved estrogen patches, gels, and creams published in the journal Menopause. This pivotal research underscores the clinical validity and utility of urine metabolite testing in transdermal estrogen replacement therapy.  

As we look ahead to 2024, DUTCH is committed to furthering our mission to profoundly change lives by making it easier for providers and patients to access reports and hormone education. Be the first to hear about a new educational course on menopausal hormone therapy, designed to help providers navigate the complexities of monitoring and dosing HRT. We also have some exciting advancements coming to our customer experience plus even more research to help providers make more confident hormone-related decisions. This will be an exciting year at DUTCH, and we are so grateful to our provider community for joining us in our mission! 

 

Show Notes 

Read more about the latest DUTCH research published in Menopause 

Discover even more peer-reviewed research validating DUTCH and learn how DUTCH Trust can help you feel more confident in your treatment decisions. 

Learn more about all of the expert hormone education available to DUTCH providers. 

Become a DUTCH provider and profoundly change your patients’ lives through comprehensive hormone testing. 

16 Jan 2024Tips to Recognize Stressors and Repair the Body with Dr. Carrie Jones00:32:31

This enlightening episode of the DUTCH Podcast takes listeners on a journey to understand how to manage stress and rejuvenate the body featuring our special guest, Dr. Carrie Jones, ND. Dr. Jones wants to shift the mindset of the high-energy “boss babe era” to help listeners embrace more rest-based lifestyles. She discusses how omnipresent stressors can be in our lives and how the brain is constantly evaluating threats in the world. This “always on” mentality can pose significant impacts on the body’s resources. She also sheds light on the effects of norepinephrine, noting that running on this stress hormone hinders the body's ability to heal and repair at the cellular level. 

This conversation is not just about identifying stress but also about practical, foundational changes for better health management. Key topics include the importance of hydration, sleep, and managing blood sugar, as well as understanding the glymphatic system and the circadian rhythm's role as the master regulator of the body's various rhythms. Dr. Jones explains the nuanced balance of stress and resilience, particularly in relation to exercise, and the potential hormonal shifts when pushing too far. She also highlights the significance of cortisol testing for understanding diurnal rhythms and optimizing patient care plans. Tune in to this groundbreaking discussion on transforming stress management into a tool to repair the body and maintain a resilient, healthy lifestyle. 

 

Show Notes 

Follow Dr. Carrie Jones on Instagram: @dr.carriejones 

Learn more about Dr. Jones’ Metabolic Mentor University 

Follow DUTCH on Social Media: @dutchtest  

Access DUTCH Webinars to learn how Cortisol and Stress can impact your life – and what you can do about it! 

Become a DUTCH provider and profoundly change your patients’ lives through comprehensive hormone testing.  

 Learn more about the Mastering Functional Hormone Testing Course – free to registered DUTCH providers!  

 

23 Jan 2024Diagnosing PCOS (Polycystic Ovary Syndrome) with Krystal Richardson, ND00:33:00

Dive deeper into the complexities of Polycystic Ovary Syndrome (PCOS) in this episode. Dr. Krystal Richardson, ND, joins us to discuss the difficult and confusing journey providers must take in order to reach a PCOS diagnosis. She highlights the inadequacies in conventional medical approaches and offers a holistic perspective on the condition. You'll learn more about the importance of considering co-morbidities and personal experiences when evaluating PCOS symptoms, and you’ll hear her challenge the notion that the ovaries are the primary issue in PCOS and why you should instead focus on broader endocrine disruptions. 

This enlightening episode also offers a fresh perspective for patients who are struggling with PCOS, and how the school of thought is moving away from standard, ineffective weight-loss recommendations. Dr. Richardson explores the impact of diet, exercise, and supplements in PCOS treatment, stressing the importance of individualized care plans that prioritize long-term health and quality of life. From debunking myths about weight loss and dieting to discussing the accuracy of lab tests in detecting PCOS, this episode provides a comprehensive look at the challenges and innovative approaches to managing this complex condition. 

 

Show Notes 

Learn more about Dr. Richardson at www.nfmseattle.com 

Become a DUTCH provider and profoundly change your patients’ lives through comprehensive hormone testing. 

Learn more about the Mastering Functional Hormone Testing Course – free to registered DUTCH providers! 

Follow DUTCH on Social Media: @dutchtest 

 

Check out our previous podcast episodes on PCOS: 

  • Season 2, Eps 5 & 6 
  • DUTCH Summer School, Ep 8 
  • Season 3, Eps 14 & 15 

 

Related Articles from the DUTCH Blog 

The Role of Adrenals in PCOS  

Metabolic Factors in PCOS  

Improving Treatment Plans for PCOS and Pregnancy 

30 Jan 2024Optimizing Sleep Hygiene & the Circadian Rhythm00:42:06

Discover the secrets to mastering your body's natural rhythms in this enlightening episode of the DUTCH Podcast. Join Dr. Jaclyn Tolentino, Senior Doctor at Parsley Health, to understand the intricacies of the circadian rhythm, HPA axis, and sleep hygiene. Dr. Tolentino joined Dr. Smeaton to explain why sleep is so important for our overall wellness. She explains the profound impact of natural light on our bodies and the surprising dangers of artificial light at night, deemed a carcinogen by the WHI.  

In this episode, you'll gain practical advice on enhancing your daily routine, from the best times to bask in natural light to dietary tips that support a healthy circadian rhythm. Discover why timing matters—from the ideal moments for outdoor exposure to optimizing your bedtime for peak melatonin production. The conversation also covers the personalized nature of exercise and the importance of self-assessment in our busy lives. Beyond lifestyle tips, this episode emphasizes the power of testing in patient care plans. The right assessment can track your patient’s progress towards a harmonious life rhythm and can validate their symptoms that are sometimes disregarded. Tune in to transform the way you think about your daily habits and sleep! 

 

Show Notes:
Learn more about Dr. Jaclyn Tolentino, DO: drjaclyntolentino.com   

Become a DUTCH provider and profoundly change your patients’ lives through comprehensive hormone testing. 

Learn more about the Mastering Functional Hormone Testing Course – free to registered DUTCH providers! 

Follow DUTCH on Social Media: @dutchtest 

Related Articles from the DUTCH Blog 

Sleep Hygeine: Foundational Techniques for Your Best Sleep 

Circadian Rhythm and Human Health. 

 

06 Feb 2024Hair Loss and Scalp Health with Dr. Alan Bauman00:38:23

In this episode, Dr. Alan Bauman, an expert physician in the field of hair restoration, joins Dr. Smeaton to explore the complicated world of hair loss and the options that are available to treat it. Hair loss can have genetic, hormonal, environmental, and lifestyle causes. Even if patients aren’t experiencing symptoms now, they may still be concerned about what’s to come. 

Dr. Bauman shares his insights on the many factors that can lead to hair loss and how genetics and hormones can go hand-in-hand. Not to worry, though, there are treatments available! From red light therapy to probiotics, what’s most important is to start taking care of your hair early while the follicles are still resilient. Listen in to learn even more about hair and scalp health in this insightful episode! 

Show Notes:
Learn more about Dr. Alan Bauman and his clinic at www.baumanmedical.com 

Become a DUTCH provider and profoundly change your patients’ lives through comprehensive hormone testing. 

Read the DUTCH Blog to learn more about hormone health. 

Learn more about hair loss from our conversation with Marcelle Pick, OB/GYN, NP from Season 2 of the DUTCH Podcast 

14 May 2024DUTCH Test Enhancements: New Updates to the DUTCH Report with Mark Newman, MS00:18:24

Welcome to Season 4 of the DUTCH Podcast! In this episode, Mark Newman, MS, joins our host Jaclyn Smeaton, ND, to discuss the recent enhancements to the DUTCH report. These visual changes are the first in a series of a few updates aimed at improving readability and providing deeper insights into the data.  

Mark and Jaclyn discuss the update from fan gauges to slider graphics to show population percentile, the new estrogen metabolism ratio sliders that display ratios more precisely, and how DUTCH is working on education around the DUTCH report so providers can see a patient’s story more intuitively. Listen in to learn more about these updates!  

Show Notes 

Read our blog post detailing the visual updates to the DUTCH Report and tips for report interpretation. 

Check out sample reports for a 62-year-old male or a 44-year-old female to see how these updates are represented visually.  

Frequently Asked Questions 

When will I see the enhancements reflected on DUTCH reports? 
Providers will begin seeing these visual updates reflected on reports starting May 2, 2024.  

If my test is already in process, will the enhancements be reflected on my report? 
Any reports that have not been released to you yet will show these updates. 

Who can I contact for questions regarding these enhancements? 
If you have questions, you can contact our Customer Care team by phone at 503-687-2050 or by email at info@dutchtest.com.  

21 May 2024Menopause Publication, A Letter to the Editor, and DUTCH’s Response00:24:09

Menopause Publication, A Letter to the Editor, and DUTCH’s Response

Listen in to this episode of the DUTCH Podcast as Mark Newman, MS, discusses Dr. Pam Smith’s Letter to the Editor in response to our Menopause publication, a peer-reviewed study on the comparison between FDA-approved estrogen patches and gels to compounded estrogen creams.  

Mark and Jaclyn examine the somewhat confusing nomenclature between estrogen dose amount and absorption amount, the differences in response between patches, gels, and creams, and how salivary versus urinary testing can tell different stories in a patient. They also discuss how the research around hormone monitoring has advanced over the years and the importance of paying attention to clinical outcomes as well as the full body of scientific literature available. 

Show Notes:
Read our published article in Menopause, check out Dr. Pam Smith’s Letter to the Editor and our response

 

28 May 2024Aging and Longevity in Women with Maddy Dychtwald00:33:34

Hear more about the longevity revolution in this episode with author and speaker Maddy Dychtwald! Maddy and Jaclyn have a thought-provoking conversation on genetics versus epigenetics, research advancements around cognitive health, and hormone replacement therapy as a method to maintain health. They also discuss the importance of social connections, feeling a sense of purpose, and financial stability as factors that affect our longevity. You don’t want to miss this insightful episode!  

Show Notes:
Check out Maddy Dychtwald’s newest book, Ageless Aging

 Learn more about Maddy Dychtwald and Age Wave

04 Jun 2024Cortisol, Cognitive Function, and Mental Health00:49:11

In this informational episode, Jaclyn and Carrie Jones discuss the connection between cortisol, cognitive health, mental health, and reproductive hormones. Cortisol can influence many parts of the body, including hormones, the prefrontal cortex, and stress resilience over time.  

Stress resilience looks different for everyone, but Jaclyn and Carrie provide some great tips to help mitigate stress, feel more at ease, and improve resilience. They also cover how stressors have changed since the pandemic, how hormonal shifts can create stress in the body, and the importance of not diminishing the effects of stress in our lives.  

Show Notes:
Follow Dr. Carrie Jones on Instagram: @dr.carriejones  

Follow DUTCH on Social Media: @dutchtest  

Become a DUTCH provider and profoundly change your patients’ lives through comprehensive hormone testing.  

Learn more about the Mastering Functional Hormone Testing Course – free to registered DUTCH providers!  

11 Jun 2024HRT, Estrogen Applications, and Clinical Efficacy with Dr. Jeff Bland and Mark Newman, MS00:34:31

Join the conversation with Dr. Jeff Bland and Mark Newman as they examine the discourse around our Menopause publication, the methods of analysis in the study, and the confusion on how transdermal estradiol dosage is defined, which has puzzled the functional medicine industry for decades. 

They also discuss how to balance the risks of hormone replacement therapy and the importance of finding “the HRT sweet spot” for each patient. Don’t miss this episode recorded at IFM AIC 2024!  

Show Notes:
Learn more about Dr. Bland and follow him on Instagram at @drjeffreybland. 

 Read our published study on transdermal estradiol creams, gels, and patches in Menopause

Become a DUTCH Provider to learn more about using hormone replacement therapy in your practice. 

18 Jun 2024Chronic Stress and HPA Axis Dysfunction00:29:40

Learn more about how chronic stress affects the brain and the HPA axis in this episode of the DUTCH Podcast. Dr. Deb Matthew joins Jaclyn Smeaton to discuss how to recognize hormonal changes caused by stress and consistently elevated cortisol levels, the common signs and symptoms associated with chronic stress, and how often stress ends up being the root cause in patient consultations. You’ll also hear some of Dr. Matthew’s favorite tips to help improve your stress response.

Show Notes:
Visit Dr. Matthew’s website to learn more. 

Become a DUTCH Provider and profoundly change your patients’ lives through comprehensive hormone testing. 

25 Jun 2024Skin Care and Hormones: Environmental Toxins, Chronic Acne, and Gut Health00:51:02

Learn more about the gut-skin connection in this week’s episode of the DUTCH Podcast! Julie Greenberg, ND, joins Jaclyn Smeaton, ND, to examine:
· How exposure to environmental toxins can be massive hormone disruptors
· Seeing the root cause of skin issues through gut testing
· What to look for on the DUTCH Test when testing for dermatologic concerns

They discuss the lack of regulations for personal care products created in the United States and how important it is for consumers to stay informed and protect themselves. Dr. Greenberg also provides her nutrition recommendations to promote a healthier gut microbiome and skin, as well as personal care tips to limit exposure to toxins.

Show Notes:
Visit Dr. Greenberg’s website to learn more and for information on consultations.

Check out Root Cause Dermatology for provider training courses.

Take a look at the Environmental Working Group’s (EWG) database to learn more about your personal care products.

To learn more about how the DUTCH Test can profoundly change your patients’ lives through hormone testing, become a DUTCH Provider.

03 Sep 2024Break Down Menopause Myths: Hormone Therapy & Self-Advocacy00:35:35

In this episode of the DUTCH Podcast, Dr. LaKeischa discusses perimenopause and menopause, highlighting the importance of addressing symptoms and advocating for oneself. She emphasizes the need for personalized care and the use of bioidentical hormone therapy, as well as using the DUTCH Test as a valuable tool for assessing hormone levels and guiding treatment. Dr. LaKeischa also recommends lifestyle changes, targeted supplementation, and building a healthcare team to support overall well-being during this transformative time. 

In this episode, you will learn more about:  

  • How bioidentical hormone therapy can be an effective option for managing symptoms and supporting overall health during menopause 
  • The role lifestyle changes, targeted supplementation, and building a healthcare team can play in managing symptoms and optimizing well-being during this transformative time 
  • The importance of women advocating for themselves, seeking out knowledgeable healthcare providers, and not dismissing or minimizing their symptoms  

Show Notes
Learn more about Integrative GYN Solutions and follow Dr. LaKeischa on Instagram @drlakeischamd.  

Become a DUTCH Provider to learn more about using hormone replacement therapy in your practice and how the DUTCH Test can help. 

10 Sep 2024Stress vs. Gut Health: Mastering Microbiome Balance01:00:40

This episode of the DUTCH Podcast explores the connectivity between the gut and the brain, the role of stress and chronic stress, the effects of stress on gut health, the impact of weight loss drugs like Ozempic, and future research directions in the gut health space.  

Kiran Krishnan and Dr. Smeaton also explore: 

  • How the microbiome can affect weight loss 
  • The potential dangers of weight loss drugs  
  • The development of personalized probiotics 
  • Key factors for maintaining a healthy microbiome 

 

Show Notes:
Learn more about Kiran Krishnan @kiranbiome on Instagram. 

Explore more about gut health in September’s DUTCH Webinar

Become a DUTCH Provider to get access to expert clinical education, comprehensive patient reports, and peer-reviewed and validated research. 

17 Sep 2024Postpartum Depression & Hormones00:32:36

In this episode, Dr. Kelly Ruef and Dr. Jaclyn Smeaton discuss postpartum depression and baby blues, highlighting the importance of raising awareness and providing support for women experiencing these issues. She explains the difference between baby blues and postpartum depression, emphasizing that postpartum depression is a more severe form with symptoms of major depressive disorder.  

Dr. Ruef also reviews: 

  • Hormonal changes that occur after childbirth and how they can contribute to mood issues 
  • Various treatment options, including medication, nutritional support, and therapy 
  • The importance of setting realistic expectations and seeking help from healthcare providers  

Show Notes:
Learn more about supportive care and tips to thrive postpartum in this blog post

Become a DUTCH Provider and get access to more expert clinical education, peer-reviewed and validated research, and comprehensive patient reports. 

24 Sep 2024Managing Menopause: Symptoms, Individualized Treatment & HRT00:37:50

In this episode of the DUTCH Podcast, Dr. Tori Hudson and Dr. Smeaton discuss menopausal hormone replacement therapy (HRT) and its resurgence in recent years. Dr. Hudson explains that HRT may be recommended for women experiencing significant quality of life symptoms related to perimenopause or menopause, such as hot flashes, night sweats, mood swings, fatigue, and low libido. Dr. Hudson also addresses the concerns raised by the influential Women's Health Initiative (WHI) study in 2002, which showed increased risks of cardiovascular disease and breast cancer associated with HRT. However, re-examination of the WHI study found that the initial claims were misconstrued, and that the risks associated with HRT are relatively small and comparable to other lifestyle factors. 

Dr. Hudson and Dr. Smeaton also discuss: 

  • Bioidentical hormones versus synthetic hormones 
  • The significance of finding providers with expertise in menopause management 
  • The importance of individualized treatment plans  

Show Notes:
Learn more about Dr. Tori Hudson and the Institute of Women’s Health.  

Watch a replay of Dr. Tori Hudson’s DUTCH Webinar, Menopause, Perimenopause, and MHT: Myths and Misconceptions

Visit the DUTCH Blog to read Dr. Tori Hudson’s four-part series on menopausal HRT, including posts on estrogen and breast cancer, age and HRT, progesterone creams, and bioidentical estrogen

Become a DUTCH Provider to discover more about using hormone replacement therapy in your practice and gain access to even more expert clinical education. 

01 Oct 2024Libido & Sexual Health: Navigating Hormonal Shifts Through Menopause00:43:54

In this episode, Dr. Corina Dunlap discusses the importance of addressing libido and sexual health in women before, during, and after menopause. She emphasizes the need for open and comfortable conversations about these topics and highlights the common challenges women face in discussing their libido concerns.  

Dr. Dunlap and Dr. Smeaton also cover: 

  • Hormonal shifts that can impact libido, including changes in estrogen, progesterone, testosterone, and oxytocin 
  • How psychological factors, such as self-image and relationship dynamics, can influence libido 
  • The importance of maintaining pelvic and vaginal health 
  • The impact of lifestyle factors like diet, exercise, and inflammation 
  • How using the DUTCH Test to evaluate hormone levels can assist in creating personalized treatment plans

Show Notes: 
Learn more about Corina Dunlap and follow her on Instagram @drcorinadunlap. 

Become a DUTCH Provider to learn more about creating individualized treatment plans for your patients using the DUTCH Test.

08 Oct 2024Navigating Low Estrogen: A Lifelong Journey for Women00:43:33

In this episode of The DUTCH Podcast, Dr. Allison Smith and Dr. Smeaton explore the topic of low estrogen in cycling females and the hormonal changes that occur during perimenopause and menopause.  

Dr. Smith and Dr. Smeaton also discuss: 

  • What causes low estrogen in cycling females, such as hypothalamic suppression and genetic factors 
  • How estrogen is produced in the body 
  • The importance of estrogen in relation to bone health 
  • How estrogen levels change during perimenopause and menopause 
  • Considerations for hormone replacement therapy and the importance of individualized treatment for each patient 

Show Notes:
Hear more about estrogen from Dr. Allison Smith in her previous episode, Estrogen Basics, and in her DUTCH Webinar, Assessment and Approach to the Estrogen Dominant Female

 Become a DUTCH Provider to discover more free educational resources from our clinical experts, comprehensive patient reports, and peer-reviewed and validated research. 

15 Oct 2024Fertility and Reproductive Health: A Holistic Approach00:45:18

In this episode, Dr. Anna Cabeca and Dr. Jaclyn Smeaton discuss the multifaceted nature of fertility, exploring the impact of ovarian health, toxic burden, hormonal influences, and autoimmunity on reproductive health.  

Dr. Cabeca and Dr. Smeaton also discuss: 

  • How toxic burden can significantly impact fertility and hormonal balance 
  • The importance of lifestyle factors and testing when it comes to fertility 
  • The often-overlooked role of male fertility in the conception process 
  • Taking a holistic approach to fertility that integrates both conventional and functional medicine 
  • Empowering patients in their journey toward conception 

Show Notes:
Learn more about Dr. Anna Cabeca and her upcoming program, Magic Menopause Coaching Certification, launching October 15. 

Follow Dr. Anna Cabeca on Instagram @thegirlfrienddoctor

Watch Dr. Jaclyn Smeaton’s DUTCH Webinar on Fertility and the DUTCH Test to explore how the DUTCH Test can be a useful tool to explore fertility. 

Become a DUTCH Provider to learn more about how the DUTCH Test can help you profoundly change your patients’ lives. 

22 Oct 2024Hormone Therapy Unpacked: Navigating the Risks and Benefits00:55:42

In this episode of the DUTCH Podcast, Dr. Smeaton interviews Dr. Tara Scott, a hormone expert, to discuss hormone therapy (HRT) in the context of breast cancer awareness month. They delve into the definitions of HRT and its recent resurgence in media discussions, sparked by celebrities like Gwyneth Paltrow and Halle Berry. 

Dr. Scott also covers: 

  • The distinction between bioidentical and synthetic hormones, clarifying that bioidentical hormones mimic what the body produces  
  • The updated recommendations from the North American Menopause Society, which state that HRT is not universally necessary but should be an option based on individual risk factors 
  • The controversial use of testosterone in women 
  • The differing guidelines for men and women regarding hormone therapy  
  • The importance of understanding the risks and benefits of HRT, particularly concerning breast cancer 

Show Notes:
Check out the global testosterone therapy study, the NAMS article about misinformation on HRT, and Versalie

Learn more about Dr. Tara Scott @HormoneGuruMD on Instagram. 

Become a DUTCH Provider to learn more about using hormone replacement therapy in your practice and how the DUTCH Test can help. 

29 Oct 2024Perimenopause to Menopause: Decoding the Differences00:43:42

In this conversation, Dr. Jaclyn Smeaton and Esther Blum delve into the complexities of perimenopause and menopause, discussing the myriad symptoms women experience, the medical community's understanding of these transitions, and the importance of early intervention and personalized care. 

Esther and Dr. Smeaton also explore: 

  • The physiological changes that occur during perimenopause and menopause 
  • The role of hormones like estrogen and progesterone 
  • How early intervention with hormones can optimize quality of life 
  • How lifestyle factors can impact women’s health during this time 
  • The importance of women advocating for themselves and seeking knowledgeable healthcare providers 

Show Notes:
Learn more about Esther Blum and follow her on Instagram @gorgeousesther

Check out Esther’s other DUTCH Podcast episode, Finding Comfort in the Menopause Metamorphosis, to hear more tips about transitioning into menopause. 

Become a DUTCH Provider to learn more about how the DUTCH Test can help support your patients in the phases of perimenopause and menopause. 

12 Nov 2024Brent Fikowski: Exploring the Role of Hormones in Athletic Success00:44:06

In this episode, professional CrossFit athlete, Brent Fikowski, shares his journey from a competitive athlete in volleyball to becoming the world-ranked #3 CrossFit competitor. He discusses the evolution of his training, the importance of listening to his body to prevent injuries, and the crucial roles that nutrition and hormones play in his performance and recovery.  

Brent and Dr. Jaclyn also discuss: 
- The intricate relationship between hormonal changes, stress, and athletic performance 
- Using the DUTCH Test to monitor hormone levels for optimal performance 
- Brent’s personal experience with managing his cortisol levels 
- The significance of lifestyle choices and accountability  
- Brent’s journey with developing a high-performance mindset 

Show Notes:
Follow Brent’s journey on Instagram @fikowski. 

Learn more about cortisol and the DUTCH Test in our episode Understanding Cortisol Curves. 

Become a DUTCH Provider to get access to free educational resources, expert clinical support, peer-reviewed and validated research, and comprehensive patient reports. 

19 Nov 2024Navigating Menopause & Aging: Insights from Epigenetics & DUTCH Testing00:43:52

In this conversation, Dr. Kara Fitzgerald discusses the intricate relationship between epigenetics and longevity, detailing her journey into the field, the design and outcomes of her Methylation Diet and Lifestyle Program, and the implications of biological age versus chronological age. She emphasizes the importance of personalized interventions and the role of environmental factors in gene expression, while also exploring various lifestyle changes that can positively impact biological aging.  
 
Dr. Fitzgerald and Dr. Smeaton also explore:

  • The impact of lifestyle changes on biological age  
  • Recent studies on aging patterns 
  • The significance of hormonal health, especially for women 
  • How small daily changes can lead to significant improvements in health span 
  • The importance of DUTCH testing in understanding hormonal patterns and its relevance in aging discussions 

Show Notes
Learn more about Dr. Kara Fitzgerald and check out her book, Younger You

 Follow Dr. Kara Fitzgerald on Instagram @drkarafitzgerald

Become a DUTCH Provider to learn more about using the DUTCH Test in your practice. 

26 Nov 2024Decoding the HPA Axis: How Stress, Cortisol & Circadian Rhythms Shape Our Health00:56:30

In this episode, Tom Guilliams and Dr. Jaclyn Smeaton delve into the complexities of the HPA axis, exploring its role in stress response, metabolic regulation, and overall health. They discuss the multifaceted nature of cortisol, its impact on glucose levels, and how early life stressors can shape HPA axis function.  

This episode also explores: 

  • The significance of perceived stress 
  • How circadian rhythm influences HPA axis function 
  • The intricate connections between obesity, inflammation, and the HPA axis  
  • Holistic approaches to managing HPA axis dysfunction, including the use of adaptogens and the importance of physical activity 
  • Gender differences in stress response and the factors that contribute to burnout 


Show Notes:
Learn more about Tom Guilliams and his research organization, Point Institute. 

Check out other episodes of the DUTCH Podcast with Tom Guilliams: What’s the Deal with the Pregnenolone Steal? and HPA Axis: A Whole-Body Stress Response System. 

Become a DUTCH Provider to gain access to free educational resources, expert clinical support, peer-reviewed and validated research, and comprehensive patient reports. 

03 Dec 2024Exploring HRT: Controversies, Questions & Education 00:41:11

In this conversation, Dr. Carrie Jones and Dr. Jaclyn discuss the challenges that providers face when learning about hormone replacement therapy (HRT) for menopause. They highlight the confusion and conflicting information surrounding HRT and the need for a comprehensive and evidence-based approach. They also introduce a new educational course from DUTCH, Introduction to Hormone Replacement Therapy, which aims to provide a clear and practical guide for providers looking to incorporate HRT into their practice.  

 Dr. Jaclyn and Dr. Carrie also discuss:  

  • The core hormones involved in HRT, including estradiol, progesterone, and DHEA 
  • Different forms and routes of administration  
  • The importance of understanding the evidence and guidelines for HRT 
  • The need for individualized patient assessment and testing 
  • Controversies and common questions surrounding HRT  

Show Notes:
Sign up to get early access to the Introduction to Hormone Replacement Therapy course. This course is exclusive to registered DUTCH Providers – become a DUTCH Provider today!  

Follow Dr. Carrie Jones on Instagram @dr.carriejones

10 Dec 2024Autoimmunity in Women: Hormonal Shifts During Perimenopause and Menopause00:44:51

In this episode, Dr. Sara Szal (formerly Gottfried) discusses the rising rates of autoimmunity, particularly among women, and the importance of understanding anti-nuclear antibody (ANA) testing. She emphasizes the need to explore root causes of autoimmunity, including genetic predisposition, leaky gut, and environmental triggers.   

Dr. Szal and Dr. Smeaton also explore: 

  • Foundational approaches to managing autoimmune conditions  
  • The connection between reproductive hormones and autoimmune diseases 
  • The influence of hormonal changes during perimenopause and menopause, and how these changes affect various bodily systems  
  • The importance of diet and technology, such as continuous glucose monitors, in managing health during these transitions 
  • The role of different testing methods in understanding hormonal balance  

Show Notes:
Learn more about Dr. Sara Szal and her new book, The Autoimmune Cure, and follow Dr. Szal on Instagram @saragottfriedmd.  

Become a DUTCH Provider and learn more about how to use comprehensive hormone testing in your practice. 

07 Jan 20252024 Recap & 2025 Vision: DUTCH’s Next Move00:44:27

In this episode of the DUTCH Podcast, Dr. Jaclyn Smeaton and Mark Newman, MS, discuss the advancements and highlights from 2024 in the field of hormonal health and functional medicine. They cover the launch of the new DUTCH website, recent research publications, and the exciting growth of the DUTCH Podcast and DUTCH Webinars.  

They also delve into: 

  • The importance of education in hormone therapy 
  • Updates made to the DUTCH report 
  • The introduction of new educational resources, such as Mini Guides 
  • The upcoming Introduction to Menopausal HRT course 
  • DUTCH’s commitment to excellence and mission to improve hormonal health for all 

Show Notes:
Check out the new DUTCH website and our new Education Hub, and read the research on DIM’s effects on the urinary estrogen profile. For more DUTCH research, visit DUTCHTest.com/research, and check out our estrogen therapy research in Menopause

Get access to our new educational course, Introduction to Menopausal HRT, exclusive for registered DUTCH providers. If you’re not a DUTCH Provider, sign up today!  

Take a look at page 2 of this sample report, which highlights the androgen story Mark Newman, MS mentions in this episode. 

14 Jan 2025Supporting Perimenopause: Hormonal Balance, Personalized Medicine & HRT00:43:22

In this episode, recorded live at A4M World Congress, Dr. Tara Scott discusses the complexities of perimenopause, a hormonal transition that can last for years. She highlights the challenges providers face in diagnosing and treating this phase, the importance of understanding hormonal changes, and the broader impacts on women's health, including metabolic health and hormonal imbalances.  

Dr. Scott also covers: 

  • The need for comprehensive assessments and personalized medicine to address the unique experiences of perimenopause  
  • Lifestyle changes that can aid women in perimenopause  
  • The role of supplements in supporting women's health  
  • Estrogen metabolism and the importance of understanding how the body processes estrogen 
  • The nuanced decisions surrounding hormone therapy 

 Show Notes 
Learn more about Dr. Tara Scott and follow her on Instagram @HormoneGuruMD. 

Explore how to support your patients during perimenopause with hormone testing by becoming a DUTCH Provider today! 

14 Jan 2025The Importance of Functional Medicine: Longevity & Health Optimization00:32:29

In this episode, recorded live at A4M World Congress, Dr. Darshan Shah shares his transformative journey from a traditional surgeon to a pioneer in longevity medicine. He discusses the importance of integrative and functional medicine, emphasizing the need for a new healthcare system focused on health optimization rather than disease management.  

Dr. Shah also highlights:  

  • The important role of patient empowerment 
  • The significance of monitoring key health indicators 
  • The impact of hormones on overall well-being 
  • Exciting innovations in longevity medicine and offers  
  • Insights on how individuals can take charge of their health 

Show Notes:
Learn more about Dr. Shah’s company, Next Health, and check out his podcast, Extend. Follow Dr. Shah on Instagram @darshanshahmd

Discover how functional medicine and hormone testing can profoundly change the lives of your patients by becoming a DUTCH Provider today. 

21 Jan 2025Probiotics & the Microbiome: Metabolism, Immunity & Gut Health00:36:07

In this episode of the DUTCH Podcast, recorded live at A4M World Congress, Colleen Cutcliffe, CEO and co-founder of Pendulum Probiotics, discusses the significant role of the gut microbiome in overall health and longevity. She shares insights into the innovative research and development of probiotics, particularly focusing on the strain Akkermansia, which has been shown to have profound effects on metabolic health, immune function, and even skin health.   

This episode also highlights:  

  • Challenges in probiotic development 
  • The evolving acceptance of probiotics in the medical community  
  • How diet fits into maintaining gut health 
  • The untapped potential of the microbiome in various health domains, including hormonal health and the gut-brain connection 
  • The need for more targeted research and products in this field 

Show Notes:
Learn more about Colleen Cutcliffe and Pendulum Probiotics

Become a DUTCH Provider to learn more about using hormone testing in your practice. 

21 Jan 2025Integrative Dermatology: Holistic Skincare, Gut Health & Hormonal Balance00:36:00

In this episode, recorded live at A4M World Congress, Dr. Julie Greenberg discusses her innovative approach to integrative dermatology, emphasizing the connection between skin health and internal bodily functions, particularly the gut microbiome.  

Dr. Greenberg also discusses: 

  • The importance of understanding food allergies and hormonal health 
  • Holistic skincare regimens 
  • The need for a dual approach to treatment, addressing both internal and external factors affecting skin conditions  
  • The receptivity of dermatologists to functional medicine  
  • The significance of foundational skincare practices 

Show Notes:
Visit Dr. Greenberg’s website and check out Root Cause Dermatology for provider training courses. 

Become a DUTCH Provider to learn more about how the DUTCH Test can profoundly change the lives of your patients. 

28 Jan 2025Cardiovascular Health: Leading a Proactive & Functional Lifestyle00:45:28

In this conversation, Dr. Tracy Gapin, a board-certified urologist and men's health optimization expert, discusses the often-overlooked aspects of men's health, particularly cardiovascular disease, and the importance of understanding various health markers. He shares his journey from traditional urology to a more holistic approach, emphasizing the need for functional testing and diagnostics to uncover hidden health issues.  

This conversation also covers: 

  • The significance of hormonal health, including testosterone and DHEA 
  • The critical role of gut health in overall performance and well-being, emphasizing how it affects various bodily functions including mood, metabolism, and immune response  
  • How stress, sleep, and gut health are interconnected 
  • The potential of peptides and advanced diagnostics in modern medicine 
  • Practical, actionable steps individuals can take to improve their health through nutrition, hydration, and sleep hygiene 

 

Show Notes:
Learn more about Dr. Gapin and the Gapin Institute, and follow him on Instagram @drtracygapin.  

Become a DUTCH Provider to learn more about integrating hormone testing into your practice. 

04 Feb 2025How Do Hormones & Nutrition Impact Weight Gain During Perimenopause?00:41:41

In this episode, Jaclyn Smeaton, ND, and Pippa Campbell, ND delve into the complexities of perimenopausal weight gain, exploring the hormonal changes that occur during this phase and their impact on women's health. Pippa shares her insights on the role of estrogen, the importance of gallbladder health, and the nuances of nutrition, particularly through the lens of nutrigenomics.  

This conversation also covers: 

  • The need for personalized approaches to diet and health, moving beyond simplistic models of weight loss 
  • The power of cycle mapping  
  • Assessing hormonal balance with the DUTCH Test 
  • The significance of stress management and nutrition in overall health  
  • Societal pressures surrounding weight gain and the importance of advocating for a more personalized approach to women's health 


Show Notes:
Learn more about Pippa Campbell and follow her on Instagram @pippacampbell_health. 

Check out Pippa’s books, Eat Right, Lose Weight and Eat Right, Balance Hormones, as well as the Force of Nature beef/bison blend discussed in this episode. 

Learn more about the study on chronic hyperglycemia and kidney stones Dr. Smeaton mentioned.  

Become a DUTCH Provider to learn more about how comprehensive hormone testing can profoundly change the lives of your patients experiencing perimenopause and menopause. 

11 Feb 2025Hormones & Bone Health: The Hidden Connection00:44:20

In this episode, Dr. Doug Lucas, a double board-certified orthopedic surgeon and osteoporosis specialist, discusses the importance of understanding and preventing osteoporosis. He shares his journey from traditional orthopedics to functional medicine, emphasizing that osteoporosis is not only preventable but often reversible.  

This discussion also covers:  

  • Various aspects of bone health, including the significance of early screening and alternative evaluation methods 
  • A holistic approach to bone health, integrating lifestyle changes and hormone optimization to improve overall health and longevity 
  • The critical role of hormone therapy in women's health, particularly focusing on estradiol, progesterone, and testosterone  
  • Gaps in research regarding testosterone's impact on women's health and the utility of DUTCH testing for evaluating hormone levels 
  • Practical lifestyle strategies for maintaining bone health and optimizing hormone balance 

Show Notes:
Learn more about Dr. Doug Lucas, his program Optimal Human Health MD, and follow him on Instagram @dr_douglucas. Dr. Lucas also recommends exploring PEMA Bioidentical as a resource. 

Check out Dr. Lucas’s books, Top 10 Reasons Why Your Hormones Are Failing You and The Osteoporosis Breakthrough

Become a DUTCH Provider to get access to free educational resources, expert clinical support, comprehensive patient reports, and peer-reviewed and validated research.  

18 Feb 2025Managing Endometriosis: Hormonal Insights & Nutritional Strategies00:45:05

In this conversation, registered dietitian Cindy Dabrowska discusses her personal and professional experiences with endometriosis, shedding light on its symptoms, potential causes, and the importance of accurate diagnosis. She emphasizes the multifactorial nature of the condition, including genetic, environmental, and hormonal factors.   

This episode also highlights: 

  • Approaches to managing endometriosis 
  • The complexities of endometriosis, including hormonal resistance, the importance of nutrient balance, and the insights gained from DUTCH testing  
  • The latest advancements in diagnostic tools, including advanced ultrasound and potential blood tests  
  • A holistic approach to treatment, combining lifestyle modifications and medical interventions to improve quality of life 
  • The emotional toll of endometriosis on women's mental health 

Show Notes:
Learn more about Cindy Dabrowska and follow her on Instagram @endo.fertility.dietitian!  

Discover more endometriosis resources including articles, case studies, webinars, and more. 

Become a DUTCH Provider to learn more about using the DUTCH Test with your patients who are struggling with endometriosis. 

Key Moments:
00:00 Understanding Endometriosis: A Comprehensive Overview 
10:00 Exploring Nutritional Approaches for Endometriosis Management 
20:08 Integrative Therapies and Surgical Options for Endometriosis 
30:03 Diagnostic Tools and Future Directions in Endometriosis Care 
32:53 Understanding Hormonal Resistance in Endometriosis 
33:59 The Role of Nutrients in Managing Endometriosis 
34:58 Insights from DUTCH Testing for Endometriosis 
38:10 The Emotional and Mental Health Impact of Endometriosis 

25 Feb 2025Nutrition & Lifestyle: Key Steps for Hormonal Balance00:35:56

In this episode, Dr. Marcus Cirelli discusses the critical role of gut health in functional medicine, particularly its connection to chronic diseases and hormonal imbalances. He emphasizes the importance of understanding the microbiome, the necessity of appropriate testing, and holistic approaches to treatment.  

This discussion also covers: 

  • The significance of reducing toxin exposure in daily life  
  • How processed foods affect hormone health 
  • The impact of menopause on gut health 
  • The role of exercise in maintaining hormone balance, particularly for women 
  • The utility of the DUTCH Test in assessing hormonal health 
  • How partners can support each other through lifestyle changes related to hormonal health, fostering a collaborative approach to wellness  

Show Notes:
Learn more about Dr. Marcus Cirelli and follow him on Instagram @drmarcuscirelli

Check out the research on processed food addiction and Dr. Cirelli’s video about analyzing a patient’s androgen levels, diet, lifestyle, and the DUTCH Test. 

To learn more about how you can profoundly change your patients’ lives with DUTCH testing, become a DUTCH Provider today!

04 Mar 2025The Intersection of Nutrition & Women’s Hormones00:47:02

In this conversation, Dr. Beth Westie shares her journey from chiropractic medicine to specializing in women's health and nutrition. She discusses her personal struggles with ovarian cysts and the lack of answers from traditional medicine, which led her to explore women's hormones and health.  

This episode also highlights:  

  • How modern testing methods, such as DUTCH testing, can provide a comprehensive approach to women's health  
  • The importance of understanding the HPA axis, cortisol levels, and nutrient depletion 
  • How stress impacts hormonal balance and weight loss  
  • The need for a holistic approach to health that includes dietary considerations and mental well-being  
  • How DUTCH testing can provide insights into hormonal and metabolic health 

 Show Notes:
Learn more about Dr. Beth Westie and follow her on Instagram @drbethwestie

Check out Robert Sapolsky’s book, Why Zebras Don’t Get Ulcers, recommended by Dr. Westie.

Become a DUTCH Provider today to learn more about using the DUTCH Test in your practice. 

11 Mar 2025The Stress of Success: Managing Health Holistically00:37:47

Join the conversation as Dr. Craig Koniver discusses the principles of performance medicine, focusing on the needs of high-achieving patients who often struggle with stress management and self-care.  

 This episode also explores: 

  • The importance of feeling better as a primary goal in patient care, contrasted with the conventional medical system that often prioritizes diagnosis over patient experience  
  • The need for a more holistic approach to understanding health through comprehensive testing  
  • How peptides and NAD therapy can enhance health and performance  
  • Emerging therapies like BPC157 and methylene blue 
  • The role of the DUTCH Test in assessing hormonal balance  

 Show Notes:
Learn more about Koniver Wellness and Dr. Koniver’s medical spa, Koniver Aesthetics.  

 Follow Dr. Koniver on Instagram @koniverwellness

Learn more about using the DUTCH Test in your practice by becoming a DUTCH Provider today

18 Mar 2025Understanding the Impact of Hormones & Stress00:45:38

In this episode, Dr. Jaclyn Smeaton and Michelle Shapiro, RD, discuss the transition from traditional dietetics to functional nutrition, exploring the impact of fad diets, the principles of intuitive eating, and the complexities of mast cell activation syndrome (MCAS). Michelle also shares her personal health journey and how it shaped her approach to nutrition. 

This conversation also highlights: 

  • Symptoms and challenges of MCAS  
  • Various aspects of managing histamine-related conditions such as MCAS and POTS and the importance of understanding the nervous system's role 
  • The impact of diet and stress on histamine-related conditions 
  • The role of mindfulness in dietary practices 
  • Practical approaches to treatment, including dietary adjustments, the use of supplements, and the importance of tools like the DUTCH Test 

 Show Notes:
Learn more about Michelle Shapiro, RD, and check out her podcast, Quiet the Diet

Follow Michelle on Instagram @michelleshapirord

Become a DUTCH Provider to gain access to educational resources, expert clinical support, peer-reviewed and validated research, and comprehensive patient reports. 

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