The CIRS Group Podcast (thecirsgroup)

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a complicated illness that we strive to demystify for you here, every week on The CIRS Group Podcast. This week we will be continuing our fun CIRSx 2024 recap series - recapping the talks on breathwork, CIRS coaching, and litigation. Yes, you might be able to sue for damage done to your health and your home if someone is responsible for your mold problem! Let’s dive in. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS:

0:00 Intro and disclaimer

1:40 Breathwork talk by Morgan Glodowski

3:04 Research backed benefits of breathwork

5:42 Similarities to Wim Hof

6:44 Creating Healing Momentum by Jenny Johnson and Jane Prescot

7:38 Why you might want a CIRS Coach

9:50 Borrow a non-CIRS brain

12:15 Hope is the biggest correlation to healing

12:54 Resources for CIRS Coaches

13:38 Kristina Baehr, Esq. talk on Litigating Mold

16:05 Suing over mold will help get CIRS recognized

17:00 Questions to ask yourself to determine if you have a case

21:07 Bob McKee, Esq. talk on Raising the Bar

23:05 What to do when insurance denies your claim

23:47 Statute of Limitations

24:45 Proof of toxicity requires dose and duration

26:05 Convince the jury that this could happen to them

27:25 Who is being sued? And should you test your house?

HELPFUL LINKS:

“Sudarshan Kriya Breathwork”

Morgan Glodowski’s instagram: https://www.instagram.com/morgan.glodowski/

Jenny Johnson’s website: https://simplifiedwellnessdesigns.com/

Jane Prescot’s website: https://getmymoldylifeback.com/

Christian Navarro-Torres, PhD’s group: https://www.cirslab.com/home

Judy Cho’s group options: https://www.nutritionwithjudy.com/groups

Find Proficiency Partners (usually coaches) on Surviving Mold’s website: https://www.survivingmold.com/shoemaker-protocol/surviving-mold-proficiency-partners-diplomates

CIRSx Institute Courses (including coaching): https://institute.cirsx.com/p/courses

SurvivingMold’s Proficiency Partner certification: https://www.survivingmold.com/legal-resources/community/online-proficiency-partners-course

Attorney Kristina Baehr’s website: https://www.well.law/

Previous episode about proper testing: https://youtu.be/bJt6PqFYvPA

Attorney Bob McKee’s website: https://themckeelawgroup.com/

The CIRS Group:

Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory

Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/

Limbic Training Community: https://www.wired4healing.com

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:

Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a complicated illness, and sometimes we might stall in our healing journey. When that happens, it’s a good idea to think about what stones might be left unturned. For some, that could be an oral infection or a bad root canal. Today, we’ll talk about some prevention tips and how to mitigate potential problems with your oral health that could be keeping you sick. Check out the time stamps and links below, and for more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS:

0:00 Intro and disclaimer

0:47 So, why are we talking about oral health?

1:26 When to dive down this rabbit hole

3:19 Prevention tips

10:30 Cone Beam Scan

11:54 Holistic or Biologic Dentists

12:45 Swabbing for MARCoNs

14:13 Beeskeepers for actinos colonization

15:10 Disclaimer about trying new products

16:45 Word of caution

HELPFUL LINKS MENTIONED:

Ask The Dentist: https://www.instagram.com/askthedentist

Toothpastes:

Boka: https://a.co/d/2siCwHN

Fygg: https://a.co/d/d91aCxW

Mouthwash: https://a.co/d/cSvvg4O

Tongue scrapers: https://a.co/d/12ySY4L

MARCoNs test: https://www.microbiologydx.com/order-collection-kits

Beekeepers: https://a.co/d/ePutuIE

The CIRS Group:

Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory

Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/

Pre-order Jacie’s book! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:

Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

Today we have a special guest! Dr. Dayan Goodenowe is a researcher that has unlocked the power of plasmalogens and thankfully, this is something that can be a real game changer for people struggling with CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome. We cover what they are, where they come from, how to try them for yourself, and more. Check out the time stamps and links below, and for more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 1:28 What are plasmalogens? 6:20 What do plasmalogens do? 10:20 How Dr. Goodenowe started working with plasmalogens 13:10 Glia and Nuero: what are the differences? 16:47 Titrate up slowly and carefully 18:40 Jacie’s experience with plasmalogens, and how plasmalogens help even in exposure 23:30 Getting to baseline to build resilience 26:45 Side effects to look out for when starting out 21:10 Blood test to determine your needs/deficiencies 38:24 How to work with Dr. Goodenowe or purchase his products

HELPFUL LINKS MENTIONED: Dr. Goodenowe’s website: https://drgoodenowe.com/ His Prodrome website to purchase plasmalogens: https://prodrome.com/ The CIRS Summit: https://thecirssummit.com/

The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Pre-order Jacie’s book! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is an illness fit for horror movies - and guess what? Mold is quite often the star of the show. Today we do a silly episode (with some helpful bits, we think!) all about Jacie’s favorite movie genre: horror, and how biotoxins often play major role in our scary movies (and lives!). We tried not to spoil too many of these films, so we hope you enjoy whether you’ve seen some of these movies or not.. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS:

0:00 Intro and disclaimer

2:11 The Birds by Alfred Hitchcock

4:08 The Last of Us

5:00 Archive 81

5:47 Haunting on Hill House

7:00 Reddit thread: what if it’s just water damage?

8:57 Symptoms of paranormal experiences mimic CIRS

11:20 Where to start if you want to watch horror movies

13:00 Innate fear of biotoxins - perfect for the horror genre

HELPFUL LINKS:

True story behind The Birds: https://abcnews.go.com/blogs/entertainment/2011/12/hitchcocks-the-birds-mystery-solved

The reddit thread we mentioned: https://www.reddit.com/r/tumblr/comments/vtbtce/paranormal_home_inspectors/

Our Bible (and mold history) episode: https://youtu.be/Gg95J-IUCZU?si=g-objdsaf1S3LtQG

The CIRS Group:

Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory

Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/

Pre-order Jacie’s book! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:

Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

The GENIE test is a blood test you can take to help diagnose CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, but it can also inform your treatment! Today we have our favorite guest, Dr. Christian Navarro-Torres, back to explain what the GENIE test is good for, what you might do differently based on your results, and how you can learn about your own with the help of a coach or doctor. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 5:00 What is the GENIE test? 7:30 What does gene activity mean in the context of CIRS? 9:00 HLA Haplotype test vs GENIE 11:20 What are the benefits of getting the GENIE test done? 16:35 Examples of genetic expressions and what they mean 19:57 Indications of Lyme 20:30 Downregulated Metabolism 24:00 Endotoxin hyperreactivity 26:30 Get help to understand your own GENIE test 28:57 How to work with Christian

HELPFUL LINKS: Christian’s membership communities, both for patients and practitioners: https://www.cirslab.com/ Work with Christian: https://www.cirslab.com/contact

Our previous episode on the GENIE: https://youtu.be/bCNp9qNqWWc?si=BqrZHUthROdyiiU5 Check out The CIRS Summit! http://thecirssummit.com/

Our previous episodes with Dr. Christian Navarro-Torres: Neuroquant: https://youtu.be/aQyU51D7O-c?si=-hol5adPP5SLsNN5 ADHD: https://youtu.be/x_yL-voDyJY?si=48kzS4gRVZi0u8BM Nicotine: https://youtu.be/hLumLIye7q4?si=JXp_Y7vozJxkS7_e

The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Pre-order Jacie’s book! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen.

Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a chronic illness that attacks multiple systems in the body, including the metabolism of energy and digestion of food. The fun side effects can include stubborn weight gain, histamine issues, GI issues, fatigue, and cognitive issues from lack of energy. Today, we’ll dig into why that is and ways of eating you may want to try to help yourself along this complicated healing journey. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 0:52 Our qualifications 2:45 Our experience with CIRS and carnivore 4:09 Carnivoring harder is not the answer 6:32 Carnivore as a band-aid 8:04 How to eat for CIRS 8:40 Why do an elimination diet 10:15 Hypometabolism and difficulty with ketosis 11:50 GI Issues: why digestive enzymes, butyrate don’t always work 15:01 Low-Amylose, low-mold, AIP diets lead to carnivore 17:07 Why carnivore/keto may not always work for CIRS 21:05 Eat the meat you like, can afford, and makes you feel your best 22:00 How to experiment with carbs 23:10 Weight loss difficulty with CIRS 25:27 Muscle gain difficulty with CIRS 26:33 Leptin resistance 28:20 Hypometabolism and gluconeogenesis 29:19 Mobilizing fat stores can cause worsening symptoms

HELPFUL LINKS: Resource from Dr. Shoemaker on ways to eat to support healing on this protocol: https://www.survivingmold.com/legal-resources/community/week-of-may-8-2023

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a deeply impactful illness. It has changed us, but we think for the better. Today we’re exploring what having and healing from CIRS has done to our mindsets, relationships, and goals. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS:

0:00 Intro and disclaimer

0:46 Forced focus on health and healthy relationships

2:42 CIRS re-prioritized the most important things

4:20 Lifestyle changes to support healing

6:40 Developing empathy for invisible illness

9:40 Ready for opportunities - willing to sacrifice

11:56 Doing hard things doesn’t mean they aren’t hard

13:25 Seeing CIRS everywhere

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is an illness that can cause us to dissociate from our own bodies, as a way of self-protection. If you are far enough along with your healing, it can become important to rebuild that connection and tune in to what your body needs and feels, so that you can heal fully and completely. Today, we dive into this topic, covering some of the challenges of mindfulness as well as strategies and methods you may want to try. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 0:30 Why mindfulness is so difficult 2:25 The power our brains have over our healing 4:55 Limbic Retraining is an on-going practice 5:54 How to tell if you’re out of touch with your body 7:07 Practice: all you need to do is show up 8:13 The best method is the one you can stick to 9:12 Gratitudes 10:55 Play with the time of day 11:40 Journaling or Morning Pages 13:01 Meditation, choosing identities 14:26 ADHD struggles with mindfulness 15:56 Yoga 17:46 Walking 19:51 How to get started with Mindfulness 20:47 Tracking symptoms 23:12 Practice, not perfect

The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Limbic Training Community: https://www.wired4healing.com

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

HELPFUL LINKS: Limbic Retraining episode: https://youtu.be/tTzgIsdYovA?si=S4eS_dytKrK2Yj3r The Joy Plan book: https://a.co/d/gx82x4B The Artist’s Way book: https://a.co/d/1u2x3lo CIRS Meditation practice with Melanie: https://www.instagram.com/meditation4cirs/ Great research on why ADHD makes mindfulness difficult (and how to overcome): https://youtu.be/RFJBwdpSPmU?si=vV__3XUxNc9iYVdP Yoga with Adriene: https://www.youtube.com/@yogawithadriene

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a complicated chronic illness that can affect a quarter of the population if they get exposed to biotoxins. Today, we continue our CIRSx conference recap with some medical talks by Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker, Dr. Peg DiTulio, Dr. Christian Navarro-Torres, and Ming Dooley L.Ac. For those of you who have been diagnosed with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, or CFS, be sure to watch until the end for some extra interesting research aimed at your condition (which is most likely actually CIRS). For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS:

0:00 Intro and disclaimer

1:39 Dr. Shoemaker’s talk: passing the baton

3:22 Proper screening: history of exposure

6:03 Tools to show inflammation and exposure

9:00 Keep researching, keep publishing

10:06 Dr. Peg DiTulio and Dr. Christian Navarro-Torres: MSH talk

10:55 Histamine issues are highly underrated in treatment

11:38 MARCoNs matter to raise MSH

12:18 GENIE should include histamines

12:40 As MMP9 goes down, MSH goes up

13:33 Treating Thyroid gets better MSH outcomes

13:49 COVID and MSH

15:05 If you are plateauing consider co-infections

16:04 Ming Dooley: Comparing Shoemaker research with Chronic Fatigue

18:48 EMDR showed promise in one patient with CFS

20:00 Chronic Fatigue Syndrome is CIRS

21:50 17 years to get medical research into the mainstream

The CIRS Group:

Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory

Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/

Limbic Training Community: https://www.wired4healing.com

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:

Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

HELPFUL LINKS:

SAIIE: Sequential Activation of Innate Immune Elements, available for purchase on SurvivingMold.com: https://www.survivingmold.com/store/presentations/saiie-a-health-index-for-people-re-exposed-to-water-damaged-buildings

Dr. Shoemaker’s website: https://www.survivingmold.com/

Dr. Peg DiTulio’s website: https://regenixhealing.com/

Dr. Christian Navarro-Torres’ website: https://www.cirslab.com/

Ming Dooley is a licensed acupuncturist, who works with her husband, an MD, and his website is: https://www.drdooley.net/

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is almost always accompanied by headaches or migraines. If you suffer from headaches with any kind of regularity, you really should look into CIRS as a potential culprit. Why? There are actually a TON of effects CIRS causes in the body that all can make you feel brain pain. We go over all those causes and a solution in today’s episode. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 0:30 Headaches are one of the top five reported symptoms of CIRS 2:00 Causes: Elevated cytokines and elevated immune response 2:40 Electrolyte imbalance, aka ADH / Osmolality 3:13 POTS, feeling light headed, fainting 4:55 Use elevated symptoms like an exposure alarm and GTFO 5:44 POTS tip: tell a flight attendant! 6:38 Other causes: Hormone imbalance and fluctuations 7:05 Ehlers-Danlos is also likely CIRS (and causes migraines) 9:05 More stories of how Jacie and Barbara handle telling people about CIRS 9:46 Another cause: Multi-Chemical Sensitivity 10:45 MCAS or histamine response can cause headaches 12:50 Chronic pain can also cause headaches 13:09 Kids with chronic headaches 14:32 Shoemaker Protocol helps all of the above!

HELPFUL LINKS: Link to content creator Jacie suspects has CIRS: https://www.youtube.com/@taylorwynn Another content creator Jacie suspects has CIRS: https://www.youtube.com/@physicsgirl

The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Pre-order Jacie’s book! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a really complex, confusing illness with a treatment protocol to match. Today, we celebrate FIFTY EPISODES of TheCIRSGroup.com podcast. To celebrate, we offer a retrospective of how far CIRS has come even in the short time we’ve known about it (two years) and where we see it going from here. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS:

0:00 Intro and disclaimer

1:50 When we were first diagnosed vs now

3:50 Judy Cho’s pivotal role in CIRS awareness

5:00 Jordan Peterson interview w/Dr. Shoemaker and Dr. McMahon

7:29 Growing pains in the CIRS space

8:54 CIRSx conference

12:08 TheCIRSGroup.com - then and now

HELPFUL LINKS:

Judy Cho’s website: https://www.nutritionwithjudy.com/

Judy’s most impactful interview for CIRS awareness: https://youtu.be/-xt-0yJBGTs?si=euJXvOUQ5EcCmPGY

Jordan Peterson interview with Dr. Shoemaker and Dr. McMahon: https://youtu.be/LGG7om1hHcU?si=vX2lnk4eMg8oM1n6

CIRSx recap episodes (playlist): https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtFmHRLGI2wHK62Iq4qOQqkxAwE9lkdpZ

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

The hardest part about healing from CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is step one: getting out of exposure. For many, this is the most expensive step, as it can mean costly remediation or even moving to a new home. That’s why we are so thankful for Kendra Seymour and the amazing work she does with her non-profit, Change the Air Foundation. Today, she’ll explain how to hire the right people and the best people to get your home clean and safe as quickly and cost effectively as possible. This episode is FULL of great tips, so please revisit it often and check the links below to check out the resources she mentioned in this episode.. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 1:13 Why your indoor air is so important 2:40 What Change the Air Foundation does 4:20 Indoor Environmental Professional (IEP) vs Remediator 7:00 Examples of bad, good, and great IEPs 12:16 How to find a great IEP 15:00 Why hire an IEP in addition to a remediator 16:29 What makes a bad, good, and great remediator 24:30 Special tips for renters 25:55 The CIRS Summit 27:50 Additional resources for you

HELPFUL LINKS: The CIRS Summit! December 1-6, register for free here: https://thescirssummit.com/ Change the Air Foundation’s website: https://changetheairfoundation.org/ Link to their free downloads (what to ask an IEP, what to ask a remediator, mold remediation at a glance, a checklist for your own home inspection, and lots more): https://changetheairfoundation.org/free-downloads/ The “Start Here” link Kendra mentioned: https://changetheairfoundation.org/mold-water-damage/ Donate to Change the Air Foundation: https://changetheairfoundation.org/donate/

The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Pre-order Jacie’s book! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is often caused by environmentally based biotoxins like mold, bacteria, and sewage. Less talked about are the co-infections that might reside IN you, like Lyme, dental infections, IUDs, implants, some vaccinations, and now the newest one: COVID-19 as well as the vaccine for COVID. Today, we dig into Jacie’s experience with vaccine and COVID exposure and the protocol she had to do on top of the Shoemaker Protocol to fully heal from CIRS. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS:

0:00 Intro

1:00 Jacie and Barbara’s experience with COVID

3:15 Disclaimer

3:36 Surviving Mold has identified COVID as a biotoxin

4:37 Jacie’s exposure to the COVID vaccine

6:31 Spike Protein Damage Protocols

8:13 CIRS Co-Infections

11:39 TheCIRSGroup.com member experience

HELPFUL LINKS:

SurvingMold.com article/study on COVID: https://www.survivingmold.com/legal-resources/dr.-shoemaker-essays/new-research-article

FLCCC Alliance protocol: https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/I-RECOVER-Post-Vaccine-2023-07-24.pdf

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is an illness that can affect up to 25% of the population, thanks to genetics and environmental toxins. Today, we continue to recap CIRSx 2024, this time showing our Indoor Environmental Professionals some love! We had some fantastic talks by Michael Schrantz, Bill Weber, and Brandon Apple, plus Dr. Eric Dorninger and Dr. Jari Louhelainen and the topics covered include poop (or endotoxins), indoor air quality, indoor air testing, and the proper sequencing of remediation. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 1:13 Endotoxin talk by M. Schrantz and Dr. Dorninger 2:15 Endotoxins don’t always smell 2:58 How to test for endotoxins 4:39 DIY tips to deal with Endotoxins 6:30 What to avoid to keep endotoxins at bay 7:29 Air Quality talk by Dr. Jari Louhelainen 9:57 Real time air testing 11:00 The problem with HEPA filtration 11:57 Prevalence of government and leadership cover up 13:44 Mold Sampling Methods talk by Bill Weber 15:00 Air Sampling pros and cons 16:50 When to use air sampling 17:53 Why hire your own IEP or inspector 19:21 Remediation Sequencing talk by Brandon Apple 21:54 Verify after every step - test, test, test 24:00 Lean into your CIRS-literate IEP 25:15 The painful verification process

The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Limbic Training Community: https://www.wired4healing.com

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

HELPFUL LINKS: Michael Schrantz’ company website: https://environmentalanalytics.net/ Dr. Doringer’s website: https://drdorninger.com/ Dr. Jari Louhelainen: https://www.ljmu.ac.uk/about-us/staff-profiles/faculty-of-science/pharmacy-and-biomolecular-sciences/jari-louhelainen Bill Weber’s company website: https://avelar.net/articles_publications/team/bill-weber/ Brandon Apple’s company website: https://www.moldsci.com/

Endotoxin test: https://www.envirobiomics.com/product/e-endotoxin/?v=3e8d115eb4b3 National Company that administers smoke tests: https://www.americanleakdetection.com/ Green Gobbler product: https://a.co/d/9jTf8vW ERMI Test: https://www.envirobiomics.com/product/ermi/?v=3e8d115eb4b3 HERTSMI-2 Tests: https://www.envirobiomics.com/product/hertsmi-2/?v=3e8d115eb4b3

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

In order to heal from CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, you must be in a clean living environment, free from an abundance of mold and harmful bacteria. Cleaning and properly remediating homes to the standard required for CIRS patients is tricky - but thankfully there are experts like Michael Schrantz, an Indoor Environmental Professional, who can help you determine the best path towards living in a clean environment. Check out the links below to listen to his podcast and hire him to help you with your home. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 0:48 How Michael got started as a CIRS-literate IEP 2:54 When should you hire an IEP? 5:18 CIRSx course for IEPs and remediators 5:53 What to expect when you hire an IEP 10:45 How an IEP can help you decide what to prioritize 13:20 Do it once, do it right 14:10 The peace of mind of having a team 15:47 How to utilize a virtual IEP consultation 17:36 What to look for in a local remediator 20:15 What happens when test scores get worse instead of better? 23:23 When should you consider leaving your home? 26:08 The role a realtor can play in helping you find a safe home 28:49 Tips for healthy home maintenance 35:18 Paranormal Activity

HELPFUL LINKS:

Work with Michael: https://environmentalanalytics.net/ Michael’s podcast: https://iepradio.com/ The CIRSx course he co-authored: https://institute.cirsx.com/p/medically-important-remediation-101 Watch talks from prior CIRSx conferences, including Jennifer Schrantz’ talk on finding a safe home (almost last video on the right side): https://www.cirsx.com/july-2023-conference-boulder Water leak detectors: https://a.co/d/3ym6dIs Mats for under the sink: https://a.co/d/cuAgfGW UV-C light for HVAC systems: https://rgf.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/RGF-SpecSheet-REME-HALO-Zero-v1-Digital.pdf Order MSQPCR tests (like ERMI and HERTSMI2): https://www.envirobiomics.com

The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

Can you live a normal life with CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, aka Mold Illness? Even a life that includes travel, spending time with family, visiting friends, and going out to eat? We think you can! But there are tools, tips, tricks, and things to consider -  and we try to dig into as many as possible in this episode. For more information, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro 0:43 Healing for the first time vs re-exposure 2:15 Disclaimer: this is not medical advice 2:37 Making memories vs risking exposure 4:38 Develop your spidey senses after you heal 6:30 Shout out to Wild Pastures in Boulder, CO 7:50 Different symptoms can reappear with exposures 8:56 Re-exposure during the protocol is more painful than after 10:56 Travel tips with CIRS 12:10 Florida is not ok, and head buzzing is weird 14:13 We hope this helps you let go and enjoy yourself 15:15 CIRS doctors might hate us right now 16:08 The decision you make now can be temporary

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

It’s that time again! Barbara and Jacie take your CIRS questions live! CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a multi-symptom, multi-system illness that can wreck havoc on your health. Today we are doing a live Q&A to let people ask us their most pressing questions about CIRS, CIRS treatment, management of symptoms, and anything moldy. We cover diet, brain scans, MCAS, POTS, GAPS, emotional trauma, Lyme, and more!

To join our online support community, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:52 Welcome to The CIRS Group Fall 2023 Webinar 1:25 What is The CIRS Group? 2:50 Why air samples are not sufficient for CIRS patients 4:40 Best way to time taking supplements and binders 7:00 When to take the VCS test 9:10 Treating Lyme or other exposures with CIRS treatment 11:15 Elhers Danlos Syndrome 12:00 MCAS or Mast Cell Activation Syndrome 15:33 NueroQuant and memory loss 18:22 How long it took Jacie and Barbara to feel better 21:53 Peripheral Neuropathy - why it happens and tips for management 24:30 Thyroid medications and binder timing 25:02 Cromolyn Sodium for MCAS 25:54 How to get a NeuroQuant MRI 27:05 International TCG members and resources 28:00 How to order a NeuroQuant 28:36 Psyllium husk vs okra and beet binders 29:35 What can you do now while waiting to start treatment 32:15 Taking okra or beet supplements in the meantime 33:17 POTS: Postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome 34:37 Carbs and their potential role in managing CIRS 36:30 GAPS diet 37:38 Breaking the cycle: Pushing and Crashing 41:27 Benefits of processing emotional trauma 44:47 Advice managing co-infections and autoimmune 47:00 Working with Nutrition with Judy 51:38 Oxalate concerns 52:35 Concerns around colonoscopies

LINKS Surviving Mold Indoor Environment Testing https://www.survivingmold.com/docs/Inside_Indoor_Air_Quality.PDF NeuroQuant info at Survivingmold.com: https://www.survivingmold.com/resources-for-patients/diagnosis/neuroquant International practitioners and resources: https://www.survivingmold.com/shoemaker-protocol/international-practitioners Work with Nutrition with Judy: https://www.nutritionwithjudy.com/

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a complex chronic illness that requires a multi-step treatment protocol in order to heal. Today, we dive into taking binders - why take them, what kind to take, why they might cause side effects and what to do to mitigate those side effects. This is not medical advice, always consult your Shoemaker certified practitioner before making changes to your treatment plan. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 1:22 The Intensification Monster 2:03 What to expect when starting binders 3:58 Why the binders might hurt at first 6:27 Why binder timing matters 8:35 Various binder options: CSM, welchol, okra/beet 11:22 Being in exposure may cause binder side effects 14:58 Low dose VIP Spray 15:26 Lipid Replacement adjustment 15:53 MARCoNs 17:56 Histamine response / MCAS 19:09 Why a Shoemaker certified practitioner is important

HELPFUL LINKS: Environment testing episode: https://youtu.be/CK0rPJE5Gcs?si=eGQrUHaTKzKEAtmD GENIE test episode: https://youtu.be/bCNp9qNqWWc?si=hB35VTi1jBX3pkZQ MARCoNs test episode: https://youtu.be/dWJaGdpQKrA?si=mcB8XfJC8cRyKgnz&t=469 Barbara’s MARCoNs testing video: https://www.instagram.com/reel/CrjNhakttIk/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== Histamine/MCAS episode: https://youtu.be/mKoTPC4tBpQ?si=MZ6RB1BFbLpbKy1R&t=1140 Find a Shoemaker Certified Practitioner: https://www.survivingmold.com/shoemaker-protocol/list-of-certified-practitioners or a Certified Proficiency Partner: https://www.survivingmold.com/shoemaker-protocol/surviving-mold-proficiency-partners-diplomates

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Limbic Training Community: https://www.wired4healing.com

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

Guests today:

Dr. Lauren Sparks, DNP, CNP, APRN, PMHNP-BC, CTP, MA, RN

Therapist Brenda Stewart, LMHC, NCC, CTH

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, can take a toll on the mental health of the patient, just as much and sometimes more so than physically. No one knows this better than our guests today: Dr. Lauren Sparks, a Shoemaker Certified Doctor of Nursing Practice, and Brenda Stewart, a Licensed Mental Health Counselor and trauma specialist. Together they are offering a much needed extra layer of support for CIRS patients that are experiencing PTSD or other trauma-like responses due to CIRS and other events in their lives: group therapy. Today, they’ll explain why trauma plays such a big role in so many CIRS patients’ lives and what can be done to heal and move past it. This is not medical advice - please consult your physician or provider for what might be best for you. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 0:30 Dr. Lauren Sparks’ background and personal CIRS story 2:07 Brenda Stewart’s background and personal CIRS story 4:19 People with CIRS want to help others with CIRS 4:43 How and why trauma complicates CIRS, or possibly causes it 10:00 What modalities of therapy are best for CIRS patients? 12:33 Cognitive Behavioral Therapy vs Narrative Therapy 16:17 What is EMDR and what to expect during a session 20:27 Group Therapy option through Dr. Sparks’ practice 23:20 Why group therapy might be more beneficial for CIRS patients 27:23 Group therapy promotes connection and feelings of safety 28:28 Who would most benefit from their Group Therapy offering 30:08 How to sign up for Dr. Sparks’ and Brenda’s Group Therapy program 32:33 If you feel resistant to group therapy, explore why that is

HELPFUL LINKS:

Dr. Sparks’ practice’s website with information about their new group therapy options: https://www.untamediona.com/therapy Send an email to Dr. Sparks’ team if you are interested in working with them: connect@untamediona.com

The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, affects children too! And often can be treated far easier than the treatment for adults. Today, we have a very special guest, Pediatrician and FIRST EVER Shoemaker certified doctor, Dr. Scott McMahon. We ask him all the big questions about CIRS in children: how to diagnose, how to treat, how it manifests, and how to get your pediatrician on board with the Shoemaker Protocol. Disclaimer: this is not medical advice, please consult a CIRS literate doctor for help treating you or your children’s CIRS. ALSO: Stay tuned until the end for EXCITING news about CIRSx 2025 and the first ever CIRS online Summit! For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS:

0:00 Intro and disclaimer

1:27 Pediatric Mold Exposure: The Next Great Epidemic?

11:05 CIRS in children vs adults

16:55 Diagnosing and treating children for CIRS

18:37 Common CIRS symptoms in children: ADHD

19:34 Bed wetting or toilet training issues paThe Art and Science of CIRS Medicinest 6 years of age

23:10 Growing Pains are a sign of CIRS

26:40 Why one major symptom can indicate CIRS in children

28:14 How the Shoemaker Protocol differs for children

32:04 Kids can often skip the VIP Spray step

39:30 What is the likelihood of passing on CIRS genes to your kids?

43:08 How and when to explain CIRS to children

46:00 How to approach your child’s pediatrician about CIRS

50:30 Dr. McMahon’s upcoming podcast

51:44 CIRSx 2025 Announcement: June 5th in Tempe, AZ

54:24 The first annual CIRS Summit this December!

HELPFUL LINKS:

Dr. McMahon’s website: https://scottmcmahon.doctor/

Dr. McMahon’s book: The Art and Science of CIRS Medicine: https://a.co/d/9t1Vt7T

Ming Dooley and Scott McMahon study to explain CIRS to your doctor: https://www.survivingmold.com/Downloads/Dooley-McMahon_Final_Publication_-_3-30-2020.pdf

Ritchie Shoemaker, Scott McMahon, et al. study re: the diagnostic process for CIRS: https://www.survivingmold.com/Publications/CIRS_diagnostic_protocol_final_5_1_2018.pdf

For more information about CIRSx: https://www.cirsx.com/

For more information about CIRS Summit: https://cirs-research-foundation.org/

The CIRS Group:

Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory

Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/

Pre-order Jacie’s book! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:

Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

Today we’re doing one more CIRSx recap, and this time we are covering the Shoemaker Protocol - the only treatment clinically proven to heal Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, or CIRS. We heard some fantastic talks on this topic, and we’re excited to share. For more information, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 00:00 Intro 01:09 Screening for CIRS - Dr. Eric Dorninger, ND, LAc  07:00 The Anti-Inflammatory Benefit of the Carnivore Diet - Judy Cho 12:50 The Immunomodulatory Effects of Camel Milk for CIRS Patients with ASD - Jodie Dashore, PhD, OTD, MSc 14:56 Coagulation CIRS and GENIE - James Ryan, PhD 18:32 Understanding Immune Response Genetics - An HLA Deeper Dive - Scott McMahon, MD 21:49 Osteopathy as an Adjunct Therapy for Those with CIRS - April Vukelic, DO, IFMCP 26:18 TheCIRSGroup.com

Helpful links: Dr. Eric Dorninger’s website: https://drdorninger.com/ Judy Cho’s website: https://www.nutritionwithjudy.com/ Dr. Jodie Dashore’s website: https://bionexushealth.com/ Dr. Jim Ryan’s website: https://www.progenedx.com/ Dr. Scott McMahon’s website: https://oasisnm.com/ Dr. April Vukelic’s website: https://www.recoverfrommold.com/ Find an osteopath: https://www.academyofosteopathy.org/find-omm#/ The Art and Science of CIRS: https://a.co/d/5unsa7X Physician’s guide to understanding and treating biotoxin illness: https://www.survivingmold.com/legal-resources/works-citing-dr.-shoemaker/a-physicians-guide-to-biotoxin-illness

Jacie is a 3.5+ year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 2.5+ year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

Today we’re talking about the first phase of the Shoemaker Protocol: Diagnosis. The Shoemaker Protocol is the only peer-reviewed, clinically proven treatment for Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, aka CIRS, aka Mold Illness.

TIME STAMPS: 0:10 Diagnosis is the first phase of the Shoemaker Protocol 1:12 Step One: Symptom Clusters 2:46 Step Two: Visual Contrast Sensitivity Test 5:58 Step Three: Bloodwork 9:43 When you hate getting your blood drawn 10:53 LapCorp or Quest? Just stick with one 12:40 Why join TheCIRSGroup.com

Symptom Clusters (go to third slide): https://www.instagram.com/p/CetvZvYpc0i/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== Visual Contrast Sensitivity Test (vcstest): https://www.vcstest.com/ Judy’s mini CIRS test: https://www.nutritionwithjudy.com/shopping/lab-work/mini-chronic-inflammatory-response-syndrome-cirs-testing Judy’s full CIRS test:  https://www.nutritionwithjudy.com/shopping/lab-work/chronic-inflammatory-response-syndrome-cirs-testing

Jacie is a 3.5 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a wealth and wellness coach, 2.5 year carnivore and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, has its roots in the BIBLE. Did you know? Today we discuss fun historic and biblical health and mold references to give us some context for why we may have evolved with these really fun, CIRSy genes. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 0:50 How did we evolve to have crappy genes? 1:40 Protective genes during black plague may now cause autoimmunity 3:55 Genes have a purpose 4:39 The Biblical mold reference 7:55 The emphasis on mold to keep yourselves “clean” 9:20 Our bodies want to heal

HELPFUL LINKS: The Harvard study Jacie found: https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/genes-protective-during-the-black-death-may-now-be-increasing-autoimmune-disorders-202212012859 The Biblical passage Jacie reads: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus%2014%3A33-53&version=NIV

The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Pre-order Jacie’s book! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a complicated, multi-symptom, multi-system illness - so why wouldn’t there be an annual CIRSx conference for it?! We had a really great time at CIRSx this year, and this episode is our quick summary of all of it. We talked to lots of doctors, heard a ton of great talks, had a lot of fun and are so happy to be part of this wonderful community. We will do more in-depth, helpful-tip-packed episodes in the next few weeks, but for now, we wanted to give you guys the highlight reel from our weekend in Frisco, Texas. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 1:10 Travel considerations for those with CIRS 2:10 Hotel moldy vibes 4:10 The DFW airport is not OK 5:21 The Proficiency Partner Program 8:15 Christian Navarro-Torres, PhD was recognized 10:57 Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker’s amazing speech 13:50 The impact of meeting members and listeners 16:21 Exciting interviews coming soon 19:57 Why you shouldn’t have FOMO

The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Limbic Training Community: https://www.wired4healing.com

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

HELPFUL LINKS: The CIRSx website: https://www.cirsx.com/ Follow Christian on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cirslab Sign up for Christian’s research-oriented membership: https://www.cirslab.com/ Michael Schrantz’ website: https://environmentalanalytics.net/ Dr. Peg DiTulio’s website:https://regenixhealing.com/meet-the-staff Amber (and Atlas, the mold sniffing dog) on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the_mold_free_yogi/

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Which Biotoxins are responsible for the inflammatory reaction our body creates when we are susceptible to CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome? We cover all the major, possible sources in this episode. For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a multi-system, multi-symptom illness that affects 24% of the population. Today, we are exploring what the triggers can be for people who develop CIRS: biotoxins! We cover mold, endotoxins, actinos, spider bites, ticks, cyanobacteria, and even vaccines. Check out the links below for more resources. Healing is possible! For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 0:40 Barbara’s terrible explanation of CIRS and our favorite biotoxins 4:36 Genetic predisposition and a story about pfiesteria 6:40 Other common biotoxins 8:10 How exposure to a biotoxin can cause a whole shift in your health 9:20 Triggers vs ongoing exposure 10:14 New info on endotoxins coming up on your GENIE test 11:34 Triggers outside of biotoxins: Trauma 12:42 Jacie’s story of physical trauma 13:36 Trauma in childhood increases risk of developing chronic illness 14:48 Treat the biotoxin and/or trauma in addition to CIRS 16:22 CIRS can be put into remission with the Shoemaker Protocol

HELPFUL LINKS MENTIONED: Our previous episode on Genetics vs the GENIE test:

The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Other CIRS Support Communities: CIRS Lab: https://cirslab.com Jenny Johnson’s group: https://simplifiedwellnessdesigns.com/cirs-healing-collective Melanie Pensak’s Meditation for CIRS community: https://thepracticeportal.circle.so/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet!  https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/

Find Barbara for health and business tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara Book a CIRS coaching call with Barbara: https://calendly.com/actlikebarbara/cirs-coaching

Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a complicated illness that affects 1 in 4 people, but won’t “show itself” unless that person is exposed to biotoxins. What happens when that happens? We dive into it today! Your mysterious chronic illness could totally be CIRS, and we hope that if it is, you find your path to healing ASAP. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 2:00 What is CIRS? 2:30 Who might have CIRS? 3:04 What are biotoxins? 5:30 Why do biotoxins cause issues in some people but not others? 9:00 The impact of biotoxins on the body 11:00 The CIRS Symptom Clusters 13:49 So you have CIRS, what next?

HELPFUL LINKS: The CIRS Group playlist on getting a CIRS diagnosis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBhE7N-EFj4&list=PLtFmHRLGI2wGvamsYw4aQ4y9OyHnXkHU7 The CIRS Group playlist on The Shoemaker Protocol, the only clinically proven path to healing from CIRS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCT2iJrbI7w&list=PLtFmHRLGI2wHZTqMRx5Ty4Dv2bDXwt273 Online Vision Contrast Sensitivity Test to help you determine if CIRS is likely for you: https://www.survivingmold.com/store/online-vcs-screening

The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Pre-order Jacie’s book! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is an illness caused by mold and other biotoxins that affects 24% of the population and only a handful of doctors even know about it. We are so excited to have one of the greats on today: Dr. Eric Dorninger. Dr. D is a CIRS patient himself - he will share more about his and his family’s health struggles, the reasons he fights for his patients’ health, and the magic of healing from CIRS so we can be happy, healthy, kick ass individuals. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 1:18 Dr. Eric Dorninger’s backstory 8:35 CIRSx and the Holy Trinity of CIRS Healing 9:18 BlueSkyCBD for mood disorders 10:10 Screening for CIRS 13:04 Story of patient healing from CIRS 14:59 Why your doctor’s staff is so important 20:50 What it takes to work with CIRS patients 23:41 Tinnitus in CIRS patients 24:54 The problem with naming diseases 26:30 Dr. D’s podcast The Vitality Hour 29:44 Patient Aaron Pettigrew’s CIRS story 32:39 CIRSx and the importance of environment professionals 37:00 CIRS patients becoming CIRS practitioners 39:37 What the CIRS community should do to spread awareness 41:57 The problem with urinary mycotoxin tests and azoles 44:20 Endotoxin nuggets of wisdom 49:09 Outro and CIRSx excitement

HELPFUL LINKS: Come to CIRSx! https://www.cirsx.com/ Dr. Dorninger’s practice website: https://drdorninger.com/ Dr. Dorninger on AANP website: https://naturopathic.org/member/drdorninger BlueSkyCBD: https://www.bluesky-cbd.com/ Dr. D’s podcast The Vitality Hour: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwmPARlXz7FIag_6NPS_uBg Vitality Hour on tolerating binders: https://youtu.be/omQL_mZrGRM?si=5DtyoM8E4i9I4qfU Take the CIRSx Courses: https://institute.cirsx.com/

The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Limbic Training Community: https://www.wired4healing.com

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a complicated illness with a clinically proven, peer reviewed treatment called the Shoemaker Protocol. Every year, doctors certified in the Shoemaker Protocol organize an information packed conference called CIRSx. Today, we are continuing our recap of CIRSx and covering three talks about indoor environment improvements you can do today in your own home to improve your air quality and start healing from CIRS. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 0:35 Air Oasis talk 5:03 Info on buying an iAdapt 2.0 7:00 Aaron Pettigrew and Chris Foth update 9:55 Don’t slack off and give yourself grace 11:56 The CIRS Project non-profit 14:14 Actinos Update by Dr. Dorninger 16:47 How to manage actino cleaning 20:54 COVID as a priming event 21:14 Actinos are a violent driver of neurodegeneration 21:56 Air Oasis iAdapts seem to help with actino reactivity

The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Limbic Training Community: https://www.wired4healing.com

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

HELPFUL LINKS: Where to buy an Air Oasis iAdapt 2.0: https://www.airoasis.com/ Podcast of Air Oasis owner John with IEP Michael Schrantz: https://youtu.be/Ke2fzV9cv-Q?si=ABXfKVcJK3p5bteO Christian (CIRSLab)’s affiliate code for AirOasis to get 10% off: CIRSLAB10 Chris Foth, Aaron Pettigrew interview with Dr. Dorninger: https://youtu.be/6WxFMhYm2rk?si=zwqpacNTclMtJyCn Our last actinos episode: https://youtu.be/q-KW5ZXUHVM Skin test for actinos: https://www.envirobiomics.com/product/actino-skin/?v=3e8d115eb4b3 Homebiotic product: https://homebiotic.com/

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, often manifests as cognitive difficulties and decline - and those issues can feel a lot like ADD / ADHD. Many people who have CIRS may have symptoms that mimic ADHD, and some may actually have both. We wanted to dig into what those similarities and differences are, tips on symptom management and healing, and get a better idea of what’s going on in the brain with either of these conditions. We do hop around a lot in this episode - Barbara takes full responsibility for her ADHD taking us on a bit of a ride. :) For more information, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer  0:55 Christian’s intro and his upcoming workshops 2:40 How Barbara found out she had ADHD 3:33 What is ADHD? 7:43 Impulsivity in decision making and finances 8:20 Struggles with goals, prioritizing, and planning 8:50 Emotional dysregulation 9:02 Hyperfocus and lack of focus control and why 11:45 Why you may have problems with emotions 12:42 Quick definition of comorbidities 14:04 How ADHD and CIRS overlap 15:40 What is Working Memory? 17:34 How CIRS may exacerbate ADHD symptoms 18:40 Fun examples of how our brains are different 20:19 Research on ADHD and CIRS 21:25 Prevalence of ADHD and CIRS, and dangers of being undiagnosed 23:10 How healing from CIRS might reveal ADHD 24:20 What parts of the brain are affected 28:05 How ADHD and CIRS affect the brain 29:40 Balance and movement as ADHD treatment 32:57 The CIRS and ADHD overlap and what it might mean 34:17 How to get diagnosed for ADHD 35:05 Clinical vs subclinical ADHD 36:13 Is ADHD just CIRS? 38:30 How to live with ADHD 43:27 Possible thyroid dysfunction with ADHD 44:19 More tips for managing ADHD

Christian’s account CIRSlab on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cirslab/ Sign up for Christian’s CIRS newsletter: https://us12.list-manage.com/contact-form?u=81c43ceaa0a2d5b619dcbd6cf&form_id=7c935313230b949627a90f75fcf161e3

Recommended resources for ADHD: TedxTalk Barbara referenced about life with ADHD: https://youtu.be/JiwZQNYlGQI?si=H2N7uUz1kB_ZgIh5 Online test to find out if you have ADHD (similar to the one Barbara took): https://add.org/adhd-test/ Actual questionnaire Barbara filled out with her psychiatrist: https://add.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/adhd-questionnaire-ASRS111.pdf Delivered from Distraction book: https://a.co/d/8L9my3D ADHD 2.0 book: https://a.co/d/fhnlQdJ How To ADHD YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@HowtoADHD Russell Barkley, PhD YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@russellbarkleyphd2023 TimeTimer: https://www.timetimer.com/pages/adhd

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

Today we’re talking about genes - the genetic haplotypes that predispose you being susceptible to CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome. For more information, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS:

0:28 Genetics aren’t good or bad

1:00 Ancestors of people with CIRS may have been genetically able to survive the black plague

3:07 Why identifying your haplotype can help your recovery and treatment

4:10 Biotoxins are biotoxins

6:16 The Dread Pirate Roberts

6:30 Recap of the various haplotypes

8:02 Genes can be turned on and off

8:45 Testing for CIRS can allow you to better protect your kids

9:25 Be the example for your family

Jacie is a 3 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a wealth and wellness coach, 2 year carnivore and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a chronic illness that affects a quarter of the population (they just might not know it yet). Today, we tackle the very last step of the only clinically proven path to healing CIRS, Shoemaker Protocol, which is Vasoactive Intestinal Peptides, or VIP Spray. VIP Spray is amazing, in that it helps the brain return to normal after inflammation and atrophy caused by CIRS. We dig into the details on how it works, when to use it, and what to expect when using it. This is not medical advice, talk to your doctor to figure out what’s right for you. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS:

0:00 Intro and disclaimer

1:00 The purpose of VIP Spray within the Shoemaker Protocol

2:17 What is VIP or Vasoactive Intestinal Peptide

2:28 VIP blood test

4:00 Why get a NeuroQuant before and after VIP Spray

5:18 The cost of VIP Spray

6:00 Titration and administration of VIP Spray

7:40 Considerations for storing VIP Spray

8:20 Cheaper option for VIP Spray

8:58 The potential risks of VIP Spray

10:55 Jacie’s experience with VIP Spray

13:00 Using VIP to better tolerate the binders

15:20 Barbara’s VIP Spray

HELPFUL LINKS:

Genie test episode: https://youtu.be/bCNp9qNqWWc?si=WL_s_yXIpEh_f4uj

NeuroQuant episode: https://youtu.be/aQyU51D7O-c?si=YkTgroEapsSFWSGw

Cheaper option to purchase VIP Spray (to mix yourself): https://www.montroserx.com/

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

We attended CIRSx 2023 and learned a ton of new info and are bringing you the highlights today! We had to split up the whole CIRSx weekend into two parts, and here is part two! For more information, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 00:00 Intro 00:58 Even Holy Water Supports Mold - Mike Schrantz and Bill Weber 03:13 Erythromelalgia and Peripheral Hypoperfusion - Dr. Lysander Jim 04:04 Stop Coronary Disease: Live Longer, Live Better - Dr. Bill Blanchett 05:26 Dust Mites: So Uncontroversial It's Almost Forgotten - Carl Grimes 07:03 Cyanobacterial Toxins as a Risk Factor for Neurodegeneration - Dr. Elijah Stommel 08:18 Coagulation and GENIE - Dr. James Ryan 09:24 Foundations Training with Jesse Salas and Dr. Goodman  10:51 Understanding Immune Response Genetics: Deeper Dive into HLA - Dr. Scott McMahon 11:52 Historical vs Modern Dust - Greg Weatherman 12:35 Osteopathy as an Adjunct Therapy for Those with CIRS - Dr. April Vukelic 14:42 Holy Water Pt 2 - Mike Schrantz and Bill Weber 15:10 House Hunting with CIRS - Jennifer Schrantz 17:09 Benzo Induced Neurologic Dysfunction - Dr. Christy Huff 19:21 Outro

CIRSx website: https://www.cirsx.com/2023-cirsx-annual-conference

Jacie is a 3.5+ year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 2.5+ year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

Actinos! How could something that sounds so cute be so sinister? Today we do a deep dive on this trendy new kid on the block in the CIRS world. We dig into what they are, why they matter, and what can be done to mitigate the damage they cause.

TIME STAMPS: 0:35 Barbara strikes fear unnecessarily 1:07 Deep dive actinos with Larry Schwartz 2:00 Why actinos are trending in the CIRS space 2:56 There are good and bad actinos 3:37 Why your home can be worse for actinos than outside 4:38 Cleanliness is key 6:00 What you can do to minimize actinos 7:20 Vaccum with a HEPA filter 8:08 Body wash, exfoliation 10:03 Ancestral practices better for people with CIRS 11:10 This is just another lever to pull 12:26 How to make life easier with CIRS

Link to interview with Larry Schwartz about Actinos: https://www.betterhealthguy.com/episode171

Jacie is a 3 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and wellness coach, 2 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is best treated by the Shoemaker Protocol, but there are supportive therapies that can “help the process of healing along” and one such practice is mindfulness meditation. We are joined today by Melanie Pensak to talk more about this fascinating topic. Melanie is a certified speech-language pathologist and mindfulness teacher, Shoemaker Proficiency Partner, the host of The Heart of CIRS podcast, and we are excited today to have her on to explore the topic of meditation. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

HELPFUL LINKS:

Melanie’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/meditation4cirs/

Melanie's Practice Portal Group: https://thepracticeportal.circle.so

The Heart of CIRS Podcast: https://theheartofcirs.buzzsprout.com/

#CIRSAlly Video: https://youtu.be/nZGAe_AFjQk?si=X9_GUUfmBxrkKBwt 

The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore resources:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory

Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:

Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

Today we’re talking about Phase 3 of the Shoemaker Protocol: Toxic Load Reduction. This phase includes the binders, treating MARCoNs, and treating the gut. The Shoemaker Protocol is the only clinically proven and peer reviewed method for treating Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome. For more information, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:20 Barbara and Jacie’s favorite phase 0:51 First step of this phase: Binders 2:49 Barbara’s experience on the binders 3:59 Jacie’s experience on the binders 5:08 Welchol and Cholestyramine 7:10 On a scale of Welchol to Phosphatidylcholine 7:48 Step two of this phase: treating MARCoNs 9:13 Barbara’s experience treating MARCoNs 10:34 Methods of treatment and re-exposure 12:33 Dogs and CIRS 13:12 Test for MARCoNs before you move on to the next step 14:40 Do whatever you need to do to feel better 16:16 Gantt chart style treatment 17:58 Outro

MARCoNs test: https://www.nutritionwithjudy.com/shopping/functional-tests/marcons-testing Gantt Charts: https://www.smartsheet.com/s/online-gantt-chart-b

Jacie is a carnivore (since 1/1/20), certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a wealth and wellness coach, a carnivore (since 1/1/21) and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is something both Barbara and Jacie have been struggling with for over a year. Since their diagnoses in April of 2022, a lot has happened! Barbara will be sharing her triumphs and setbacks as she now explores endotoxin elimination as the missing piece to healing her gut. Jacie talks about resolving her autoimmune flares, re-exposure while traveling, and how she has reached the final step of the protocol, VIP spray. Spoiler alert: she has already experienced complete symptom resolution with the Shoemaker Protocol! We’re excited to share this example of proof that the protocol works. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 1:00 Barbara’s CIRS health backstory 2:09 GI issues and MARCoNs persisted, MSH wasn’t high enough 3:25 New practitioner, taking the GENIE test 4:58 Endotoxins vs other biotoxins 6:05 Why get the GENIE test, and how to clean for Endos 7:09 Barbara’s plan 7:20 Las Vegas is not okay PSA 9:05 Barbara’s update wrap up 9:57 Why Barbara is delaying VIP spray 11:45 Jacie’s takeaway from Barbara’s health journey 12:45 Jacie’s CIRS health backstory 13:40 Jacie’s biggest lever for healing - removing exposure 15:09 Autoimmune flare: Uveitis, plus travel 16:48 Long COVID or vax injury, spike protein damage protocol 17:59 Jacie’s experience with VIP spray (Vasoactive Intestinal Peptide) 19:00 Re-exposure, switching providers, and next steps 21:10 Why NueroQuant may help with VIP treatment 21:34 Resiliency and symptom resolution even before VIP 22:16 Joint and eye damage slowly reversing 25:05 Jacie’s mental and physical state in 2022 vs now 26:13 Jacie’s takeaway: your body wants to heal 27:19 Genesis 50:20

Barbara’s first health update: https://youtu.be/EG5aovrSSYw Jacie’s first health update: https://youtu.be/tHeNVVzRyTA Info on the GENIE test: https://www.progenedx.com/ IEP that Barbara used: https://environmentalanalytics.net/ Spike Protein Damage Protocol: https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/I-RECOVER-Post-Vaccine-2023-07-24.pdf

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com We are continuing our CIRSx conference recap today, this time specifically deep diving on all the talks given around remediation! Remaining in exposure is one of the biggest hurdles for people trying to heal from CIRS when caused by mold, so today we cover some great tips and details we learned at CIRSx from the experts. For more information, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 00:00 Intro 01:09 Why Buildings Fail to Protect Our Health by Paula Baker LaPorte 01:30 Effect of codes, regulations and US home building practices  02:28 Three major causes for issues in the home 03:38 Six reasons homes are mold-prone 04:38 Four major sources of mold 06:55 The southeast US is challenging, but no place is perfect 07:50 Protocol for home building 09:38 How to mitigate mold during the build process 12:00 Plumbing damage prevention 13:45 Features to include in your home build 14:37 Building biology - impact on mental health 17:17 My Very Own Sirewall by Ming Dooley 17:55 DIY vs Hiring help 20:04 Benefits of sirewall as a building material 20:51 House Hunting with CIRS Jennifer Schrantz  22:05 Tucson love 23:10 Jennifer is a resource for references for CIRS-conscious realtors 23:33 Inspections 25:55 How to refine your home search 27:35 Rapid fire tips for your home search 31:18 How to find a great realtor 32:00 Outro

Our CIRSx recap part one: https://youtu.be/-Dv1e_4Cm0Q?si=UbJnxulDfKYa9BUh Part two: https://youtu.be/vQdkxCV1FNs?si=ArSwefv8pqMKyPIy CIRSx recap on remediation: https://youtu.be/mREuhpzHUV4?si=C5pnERIgQxE1TUFr Prescriptions for a Healthy House, 4th Edition: A Practical Guide for Architects, Builders and Homeowners by Paula Baker-Laporte, John C Banta: https://a.co/d/45updCm Example of a water leak detector (w/wifi): https://a.co/d/gKlBEJc Example of a water shut off valve (w/wifi): https://a.co/d/cAY2sDI Example of a water heater drain pan: https://a.co/d/ejDpJGv Example of a dishwasher appliance liner: https://a.co/d/gyJjFf2 Example of under sink liner: https://a.co/d/jbcxHZk Ming Dooley on SurvivingMold.com: https://www.survivingmold.com/legal-resources/physician-referral-information/dr-ming-dooley Sirewall: https://sirewall.com/ Jennifer Schrantz’ website: http://jennifertucson.com/ IEP Radio: Episode 25, Buying a Home with Jennifer Schrantz: https://youtu.be/9B-rmeZH2Ws?si=4Uc1HNrXpf8Z_OOj Episode 9, Home Inspection Basics and things to consider when renting with Dr. Eric Dorninger: https://youtu.be/F1TCRQEYajs?si=jV251Go_3OnE6RPk

Jacie is a 3.5+ year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 2.5+ year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a complicated illness, but the first and most important step towards healing is ensuring you have a clean environment, free from mold and other biotoxins. Today, we’re tackling why this is so important and how to test to be sure your home and workplaces are safe for you. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 01:49 Biotoxins: Mycotoxins, Endotoxins, Actinos 02:49 Why test your current environment 03:48 Why a clean environment is important for your healing 06:02 Environment tests you can do yourself 07:18 Where you should test: home and work 07:46 Why use the #7 test 08:49 GENIE testing 10:22 Addressing all biotoxins is important 11:22 How to do the Envirobiomics test 16:20 Trash bag hack 17:59 Getting refunds on tests you can’t use or don’t use 21:00 Interpretation of your test results 22:53 Why we don’t do affiliate codes

HELPFUL LINKS: Previous episodes on safe environments and testing: CIRSx recap on safe environments: https://youtu.be/MXV3S3oL22M?si=1l6P0p7XWA2Njn7Z CIRSx recap on remediation: https://youtu.be/mREuhpzHUV4?si=tOhV-0lbJF2G4MKp What are Actinos? https://youtu.be/q-KW5ZXUHVM?si=P3YVZRZcF0igUUqQ Envirobiomics: https://www.envirobiomics.com/ #7 test: https://www.envirobiomics.com/product/sm-aeh-actino-endotoxin-hertsmi-2/?v=7516fd43adaa GENIE episode: https://youtu.be/bCNp9qNqWWc?si=alS0JfldcxylTfu7 Mold testing Reel: https://www.instagram.com/reel/Ci0TlRDp3_n/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

Finding a CIRS certified practitioner is easier than you think. Here are some helpful tips and tricks to finding one that is right for you and your healing journey.

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a complicated illness, so we understand you probably have lots of questions! This week, we had a LIVE AMA (ask us anything!) all about CIRS. We got some great questions, spanning everything from binders to remediation, from trigeminal neuralgia to spondyloarthropathy (say those illnesses three times fast). We hope you get a lot out of this one, and we look forward to the next! For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS:

0:00 Intro and disclaimer

1:18 Intro to Jacie, Barbara, and The CIRS Group

3:30 What is CIRS?

5:49 What is the Shoemaker Protocol?

7:50 Healing from CIRS vs Maintenance afterward

11:44 Symptoms of CIRS

13:33 How to get diagnosed with CIRS

15:20 The Archetypes of CIRS Patients

18:07 What to do while you wait to see a doctor

19:16 Improvements in symptoms

20:58 What are the best binders to take?

23:52 VIP expectations

27:14 Ice-pick pains as a symptom, and nerve function

29:25 How to wash clothing, and washing machine tip

32:32 Genetic Haplotypes for CIRS

33:48 Is Colesevelam the same as Welchol? Yes.

33:57 The dangers of basements for mold

35:05 How to test your house for mold

36:32 Best way of eating, or diet, for CIRS

38:00 Applesauce as a vehicle for taking CSM

38:58 VCS test pass vs fail to determine CIRS

41:07 How to prepare for remediation

45:25 The importance of following the protocol in order

48:08 CIRS and Long COVID

50:02 Visual disturbances and CIRS

51:38 MMP9 and TGFb1 bloodmarkers

52:52 Bloodwork test collection

54:19 MMP9 high, TGFb1 low and what that could mean

55:20 Histamine supports

56:21 MSH

58:00 Outro

HELPFUL LINKS:

Hoffman Center link for more info on CIRS: https://www.drbrucehoffman.com/post/chronic-inflammatory-response-syndrome

GENIE test info: https://www.progenedx.com/faqs

HERTSMI-2 test for mold only: https://www.envirobiomics.com/product/hertsmi-2/?v=3e8d115eb4b3

VCS test on SurvivingMold.com: https://www.survivingmold.com/store/online-vcs-screening

Endotoxin only test: https://www.envirobiomics.com/product/e-endotoxin/?v=3e8d115eb4b3

Actino test for buildings: https://www.envirobiomics.com/product/actino-test/?v=3e8d115eb4b3

Actino test for skin: https://www.envirobiomics.com/product/actino-skin/?v=3e8d115eb4b3

All three bundle: HERTSMI-2, Endos, and Actinos test: https://www.envirobiomics.com/product/sm-aeh-actino-endotoxin-hertsmi-2/?v=3e8d115eb4b3

SurvivingMold.com article on Long COVID: https://www.survivingmold.com/legal-resources/dr.-shoemaker-essays/new-research-article

Our podcast episode on COVID and CIRS: https://youtu.be/lBQ0xi1tHLo?si=FY4-Jl1BI86IXPzB

FLCCC Alliance resource on treating Long COVID:

https://covid19criticalcare.com/treatment-protocols/

https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/FLCCC-Long-COVID-Protocol-Summary-12-11-23.pdf

https://covid19criticalcare.com/protocol/i-recover-post-vaccine-treatment/

https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/I-RECOVER-Post-Vaccine-2024-03-01.pdf

The CIRS Group:

Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory

Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:

Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a really complex, confusing illness with a treatment protocol to match. Today, we are tackling a viewer request: other exposure sources besides homes. We’ll talk about what to do if you suspect one of these sources might be keeping you sick: your workplace, gym, salon, roommates, loved ones, and even your pets! For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 0:36 The first step of the Shoemaker Protocol: remove exposure 1:29 Workplace exposure 3:40 Changing jobs or starting a business as an option 5:56 Vehicle exposure 8:20 Errands, hobbies, salons, gyms 11:18 Other people: roommates, spouses, family, friends 13:17 Pets, animals

HELPFUL LINKS (NOT affiliate!): ZeroRez for car and carpet cleaning: https://www.zerorez.com/ Defense soap: https://a.co/d/gJj76k4 Defense soap wipes: https://a.co/d/gAjtCp8 Tea Tree wipes: https://a.co/d/3xrcotb Wipes for dogs: https://a.co/d/8y6uZj8 Study on Staph and dogs: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2870875/ Episode we did on dogs w/CIRS: https://youtu.be/6e_IznfWDec?si=n1gj6jNkl4Bf1GIU Shoemaker’s advice on treatment of dogs: https://www.survivingmold.com/physicians/dashboard/previous-membership-section-questions-and-answers

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

There are a few very important medications, supplements and modalities to take/try in your CIRS healing journey. We break down some of the more important ones (and less important ones) to help you determine which could make the biggest impact for you. For more information, visit https://TheCIRSGroup.com

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a chronic illness that is most often triggered in patients from water damage. Today, we are going to dig into Jacie’s recent experience dealing with a leak in her home and how she mitigated the damage and came out OK on the other side. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 1:52 Jacie’s adventure with a leak in her apartment 5:02 What to do if you are a renter 6:50 What to do if you’re a homeowner 7:53 Get three bids for a project 9:24 The steps to take when you discover a leak 11:20 Air filters and fans 12:13 Probiotic spray and  14:40 Preventative measures 17:39 Testing afterwards 19:10 Community support

The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Limbic Training Community: https://www.wired4healing.com

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

HELPFUL LINKS: Michael Schrantz’ website to hire him as your IEP: https://environmentalanalytics.net/ Air Oasis, use code CIRSLAB for a discount (our friend’s discount code, not ours): https://www.airoasis.com/ HomeBiotic spray: https://homebiotic.com/ Under Sink Mat for Kitchen: https://a.co/d/9zS31k4 Leak Alarm: Geevon 4 Pack Water Leak Detectors: https://a.co/d/gmH66Uv Govee WiFi Water Sensor 3 Pack, Water Leak Detector: https://a.co/d/4b2S1Kb Environmental testing Jacie referred to: https://www.envirobiomics.com/product/sm-aeh-actino-endotoxin-hertsmi-2/?v=7516fd43adaa

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com or subscribe to our newsletter to join us for our next live Q&A webinar! https://www.thecirsgroup.com/webinar

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is best treated with the Shoemaker Protocol. Research and clinical experience has shown that patients tolerate the protocol far better when they incorporate lipid replacement therapy. This means more supplements! But not all supplements are created equal. Today we’ll cover the most often recommended lipids for you to consider when you start your healing journey. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 0:32 Why you start lipid replacement before you start binders 1:14 Side effects of binders that lipid replacement will help you with 3:00 How to know you’re taking enough fats 4:02 How fats can impact your MMP9 level 4:52 The danger of taking too much lipid replacement 5:17 The lipid replacement options, starting with fish oils, Omaprem 6:39 Phosphatidylcholine 8:56 Plasmalogens 12:15 Do Neuro when you are in a “good place” 13:25 Consider staying on lipid replacement long term

HELPFUL LINKS: Omaprem: https://www.nutritionwithjudy.com/shopping/inflammation/omaprem-spm-fatty-acids Fish Oils: https://shop.bioticsresearch.com/products/biomega-1000 Phosphatidylcholine: https://bodybio.com/products/bodybio-pc-phosphatidylcholine?variant=34379596136583&country=US&currency=USD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&utm_source=google&utm_medium=paid&utm_campaign=17855439090&utm_content=&utm_term=&tw_source=google&tw_adid=&tw_source=google&tw_adid=&tw_campaign=17855439090&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiAkoe9BhDYARIsAH85cDMeyrEJAWstHbDJF9kLXOvoOkkwMRr9vNqqvEbSiUdYrXaJodENBlQaAkJsEALw_wcB Plasmalogens: Glia for repair (earlier in the protocol): https://prodrome.com/products/prodromeglia-softgel?variant=50891696930976 Neuro (to promote brain growth): https://prodrome.com/products/prodromeneuro-softgel?pr_prod_strat=jac&pr_rec_id=f4d553f7c&pr_rec_pid=7578764083360&pr_ref_pid=7578764214432&pr_seq=uniform&variant=50891105042592

The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Join us for our next live Q&A webinar! https://www.thecirsgroup.com/webinar Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Order Jacie’s book! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a complicated illness. Thankfully, there are specific blood markers you can test to confirm whether or not you are suffering from this illness. Today, we’re going to take you through each of these blood markers and what they mean when they’re out of range. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 0:33 Why these blood markers matter 2:15 MMP9 4:32 VEGF 8:03 TGF-b1 10:49 MSH 17:03 C4A and C3A 18:30 Tips about getting your blood drawn

Helpful Links: Hoffman Center resource for what the blood markers mean, how it manifests in your body and proper treatment: https://hoffmancentre.com/chronic-inflammatory-response-syndrome-cirs-evaluation-and-treatment/ Biotoxin Pathway: https://www.instagram.com/p/Cz4B3gKpVIn/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is taxing on your body, mind, and spirit. To fully heal from this chronic condition, you need to attack it on all fronts. Today, we’re tackling the mind: Limbic retraining, or rewiring your brain, can actually reduce symptoms and get your mind out of fight or flight and into a relaxed state, primed for healing and wellness. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 0:43 Jacie’s passion for limbic retraining 3:05 Permission to wait until you’re ready 3:53 Limbic retraining is part of a holistic approach 4:56 What is Limbic Retraining? 8:14 Things that limbic retraining can improve: 8:30 Mood regulation 8:50 Fearing the gene or the biotoxins 9:59 Believe you can heal, desire to heal 10:44 Improving histamine responses 11:10 Get a better baseline, resilience 11:50 Ways of implementing limbic retraining

HELPFUL LINKS: The Brain That Changes Itself: Stories of Personal Triumph from the Frontiers of Brain Science: https://a.co/d/gSN9SYk DNRS: https://retrainingthebrain.com/ Gupta: https://guptaprogram.com/ Wired4Healing, where Jacie leads classes: https://wired4healing.com/ Nutrition with Judy’s Mind Body program: https://www.nutritionwithjudy.com/nwj-mind-body-program The Joy Plan by Kaia Roman: https://a.co/d/gn5Nyg2 Join The CIRS Group for limbic retraining support: https://www.thecirsgroup.com/

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is best treated by the Shoemaker Protocol, but there are supportive therapies that can “help the process of healing along” and one such practice is breathwork. We are joined today by Morgan Glodowski to talk more about this fascinating topic. Morgan is a multi-modality integrative health practitioner and owner of Moksha Embodied, where she utilizes functional labs, holistic protocols and somatic healing practices to help individuals get to the root of their symptoms and rewire their subconscious to break the mold of their condition. As an overcomer of CIRS and biotoxin illness herself, Morgan left her nursing career, and is now on a mission to inspire and educate patients and practitioners on the power of breathwork - a missing modality in medicine and mold recovery. Morgan is trauma-informed and trained in transformational breathwork and Kundalini yoga, specifically. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 1:44 How Morgan got into the CIRS world 3:37 How breathwork supports CIRS recovery 4:51 How this Kriya helps the body endogenously release DMT 6:19 The research behind the benefits of this Kriya practice 8:42 Who can benefit from breathwork 10:23 What you can expect from a breathwork session with Morgan 13:56 What the resistance can mean 15:51 How to work with Morgan

HELPFUL LINKS: Morgan’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/morganeglodowski/ Morgan’s Website: http://mokshaembodied.com/ Join the group program waitlist: https://forms.gle/eY4qmRr2is7GPoXe9 Morgan’s CIRSx courses: https://institute.cirsx.com/p/breathwork-101-a-missing-modality-in-medicine-and-mold-recovery https://institute.cirsx.com/p/breathwork-a-missing-modality-in-medicine-and-mold-recovery

The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Limbic Training Community: https://www.wired4healing.com

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a multi-system, multi-symptom illness that affects many (if not all) of the systems of the body, including the ears, aka your Vestibular System. We are very lucky that Jacie has worked in audiology for many years and is now able to share her wisdom and clinical experience with us to help us understand the paths to heal from tinnitus, hearing loss, balance, and vertigo issues, and the inflammation (or injury) at the root of those problems. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 1:40 Jacie’s background in Audiology 2:15 Why ears and eyes are so sensitive and reactive 4:15 What is Tinnitus? 6:27 Tinnitus caused by bent and broken hair 8:41 The vestibular system, vertigo, the spins 10:00 Meniere’s Disease - testing methods 10:46 Inflammation is the root cause 11:32 Deplaning Syndrome and Epley Maneuvers 14:17 Hearing loss - the sooner you treat, the better your outcome 17:13 Ear and hearing maintenance/cleaning tips for everyone 19:30 Barbara’s embarrassing story

The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Follow Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Limbic Training Community: https://www.wired4healing.com

Follow Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

HELPFUL LINKS: Visual Contrast Sensitivity Test:  Article about Texas Roadhouse owner, Kent Taylor’s health struggles: https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/03/22/979929592/texas-roadhouse-founder-kent-taylor-dies-after-struggle-with-post-covid-19-sympt MindEar app: https://www.mindear.com/ Meniere’s info and testing procedures: https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/menieres-disease/diagnosis-treatment/drc-20374916 Canalith Repositioning Procedure/Epley Maneuver info: https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/canalith-repositioning-procedure/about/pac-20393315 Fun/frustrating Maze Ball game referenced: https://a.co/d/6WIt3UZ DMI Baby Nasal Aspirator, Ear Syringe, Clears Airway & Nasal Passages: https://a.co/d/d1KzgWj

Jacie is a 4+ year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3+ year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment, which can be found at TheCIRSGroup.com

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

Today we’re very excited to have Dr. Alan Gruning on our podcast. We get to ask him some follow ups to his interview with Judy Cho (see links below to watch that interview), and dig deeper on his recommendations for doing the Shoemaker Protocol on a budget. For more information, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 00:00 Intro 01:49 Where to find Dr. Gruning 04:25 Remediation on a budget 10:31 Finding/creating a safe space to live 19:30 Lyme and Long Covid protocol 24:00 Fixing issues adjacent to CIRS 26:30 CIRS, trauma, and total mind-body healing 28:34 Treating CIRS on a budget - bloodwork and binders 32:57 VIP on a budget and alternatives 37:05 Dr. Gruning's CIRS charity work and Christian CIRS Network

Dr. Gruning’s wonderful interview with Nutrition with Judy: https://youtu.be/28_b7nLwX4U?si=9gadY-Y8AHx5aYkW Dr. Gruning’s website: https://fibromyalgiafoprtmyers.com His free clinic site where you can donate: https://christianmedicalministries.org The Christian CIRS Network: https://cirsnetwork.com

Jacie is a 3.5+ year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 2.5+ year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a complicated illness that we strive to demystify for you here, every week on The CIRS Group Podcast. This week we will be concluding our fun CIRSx 2024 recap series - and we’ve saved some of the heaviest talks for last! Today we’re covering Histamine/MAST cell reactivity, the dangers of consuming seed oils, Hyperbaric Oxygen Chamber Therapy, and ADH/Osmolality issues (peeing too much!). We heard some great talks by Dr. Louise Carder, Dr. McMahon, and more - so check out today’s episode to learn our big takeaways from these great talks. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS:

0:00 Intro and disclaimer

1:12 Dr. Louise Carder’s talk on Histamines

3:26 Important takeaways about histamines

4:35 Things you can do if you struggle with histamines

6:00 Histamine support can cause better MSH levels

7:02 Dr. Knobbe’s Seed Oils talk

9:20 Dr. Jim Ryan’s talk about platelets

11:30 Platelets activate differently with CIRS

12:42 Dr. Meyers’ talk on Hyperbaric Chamber Treatment

15:20 Takeaways from this talk: MARCoNs, mitochondrial function, inflammatory markers

16:10 Pressure matters: what Dr. Meyers recommends

18:22 Dr. McMahon’s talk on ADH: Pee all that you can pee

19:25 How to tell if you’re peeing too much

21:50 Kids and bed-wetting

22:39 How to correct ADH/Osmolality issues

24:03 Why The CIRS Group is great (no, really!)

HELPFUL LINKS:

Dr. Louise Carder’s website: https://www.louisecarder.com/

Dr. Chris Knobbe’s book, The Ancestral Diet Revolution: How Vegetable Oils and Processed Foods Destroy Our Health - and How to Recover! https://a.co/d/79KIEEY

Dr. Jim Ryan’s website: https://www.progenedx.com/

Dr. Ryan Meyers’ clinic website: https://www.themovement.clinic/

Dr. Ryan Meyers’ instagram: https://www.instagram.com/docryanmeyers/

US Hyberbarics: https://www.ushyperbarics.co/

Dr. McMahon’s website: https://scottmcmahon.doctor/

The CIRS Group:

Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory

Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/

Limbic Training Community: https://www.wired4healing.com

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:

Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, aka Mold Illness, can be hard to deal with. This is true for any chronic or autoimmune based illness. But you don’t need to do it alone! Today we’re talking about the benefits of community: connection, safe space to speak freely, advice and suggestions, direction towards resources - so many things!

Over at the CIRS Group, we are planning on adding quite a bit of awesome this month: - Not one, but TWO group calls per month - A monthly live class + Q&A on an aspect of CIRS (recording and replay available to members only) - Additional new content - extended interviews and more controversial topics not safe for YouTube or Instagram

We definitely think you should join us. That said, we’re not the only group in town - we talk about a couple of our favorites and encourage you to find the one that is right for you (or two, or three!). Helpful links below. For more information, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro 0:31 Loneliness as an indicator for health decline 1:23 The ease of communication with people who get it 4:00 Using others’ anecdotal stories for your own benefit 5:10 Finding hope in others’ stories of healing 6:22 The CIRS Group now offers classes 7:00 Other benefits: Questions, sharing wins, group calls, resources 7:54 Find a community that resonates with you, mix and match flavors 10:05 Nutrition with Judy, Judy Cho’s CIRS Support Group 13:38 Jenny Johnson’s CIRS Support Group 16:22 Some doctors have groups too 17:01 Let us know our ice cream flavors

Join Barbara and Jacie’s TheCIRSGroup.com support group: https://www.thecirsgroup.com/ Join the NutritionwithJudy.com CIRS support group: https://www.nutritionwithjudy.com/shopping/nwj-client/cirs-group-support Join Jenny Johnson’s CIRS Healing Collective support group: https://simplifiedwellnessdesigns.com/cirs-healing-collective Or Jenny's 12 week program: https://simplifiedwellnessdesigns.com/equipped-to-overcome-cirs

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, about chronic inflammatory response syndrome visit: https://thecirsgroup.com

Thank you to everyone who joined our Q&A webinar, if you are here to watch the replay, you can preview the questions using the timestamps below.

Jacie is a 3 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a wealth and wellness coach, 2 year carnivore and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CR8Uj-d_fok

Resources Mentioned: - Judy Cho/Mike Schrantz Interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmiWxtEOuH0&t=0s   - CIRS Lab Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cirslab/ - Dr. Dorninger's Practice: https://www.rootsandbranchesacupuncture.com - My House Makes Me Sick Haplotype Calculator: https://www.myhousemakesmesick.com/hlacalc/

TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Intro 00:25 Who we are 03:10 What is The CIRS Group 03:36 Should I heal my gut before healing CIRS? 07:10 Can you talk about finding CIRS friendly housing and make air purifier recommendations?  08:39 Do you have to get rid of all your belongings to prevent exposure? 11:40 How do you know if you have MARCoNS? 13:33 Does too much detox too early cause more symptoms? 16:05 Have you tried coffee enemas to help with detox? 17:03 What is the difference between ERMI and HERTSMI? 18:23 Small particle cleaning 19:03 Do you recommend EC3 fogging after remediation?  20:57 What is the connection between dental health and CIRS? 22:54 How do you find your haplotypes? 23:39 How much oxalate are in the okra/beet supplements? 25:10 Are CSM and Welchol the only binders that can move the needle for CIRS?  27:37 How to manage anxiety around exposure? 29:05 Would you recommend a parasite cleanse? 31:19 Can mosquito bites cause CIRS? 32:21 How does CIRS impact metabolism? 35:52 How can I feel better before starting treatment? 37:55 What are high IGg allergies, what are these? 39:08 What symptoms can improve after taking CSM? 40:06 Can CIRS cause autoimmune issues? 41:25 Can fasting help with inflammation? 43:12 How concerned should we be about exposure in rivers? 44:19 Is it common to have more than one CIRS haplotype? 45:52 How do you deal with the impact of CIRS on social situations? 49:52 What is VIP spray? 51:18 How much do VIP spray and the binders cost?  51:50 Why is VIP spray the last step? 52:16 How do you get rid of brain fog? How long is the protocol? 54:22 Any thoughts on why some providers recommend clearing staph while others do not? 55:13 What strategies help minimize exposure for you? Cleaning protocols? 58:40 Outro

Thank you for joining us!

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

Today we’re talking with Olivia Farabaugh about CIRS Fest 2023, her journey with Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, aka Mold Illness, the CIRS Support Fund she co-founded with Malachi’s Message. Lots of great links below, please check them out to support Olivia’s amazing work.

CIRS Fest 2023 is on October 29th at 12:30pm in Dallastown, PA. Tickets are only $5! https://malachismessage.org/cirs-fest-2023/ for more info.

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro 1:04 Why Olivia started the CIRS Support Fund 3:52 CIRS Fest 2023 info 5:37 Hope Lives Here 7:05 The diagnosis is a path forward 8:30 The CIRS Support Fund Mission 9:50 How to support the CIRS Support Fund 11:00 How to support CIRS Fest 2023 12:38 Olivia’s music and mission 15:55 How Olivia helped Jacie and Barbara 17:25 The Silver Lining of CIRS 19:10 How to follow Olivia Farabaugh

HELPFUL LINKS: Donate to the CIRS Support Fund: https://malachismessage.org/cirs-support-fund/ CIRS Fest 2023: https://malachismessage.org/cirs-fest-2023/ Olivia’s website: https://oliviafarabaugh.com/ Follow Olivia on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/oliviafarabaughofficial Follow Olivia on Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/Farabaughmusic Follow Olivia on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@oliviafarabaugh Olivia’s YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@OliviaFarabaugh Learn about Olivia’s health journey on the Nutrition with Judy podcast: https://youtu.be/Y5Be4DgmMDI?si=atoCS3gGrs-gYvy6

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Jacie is a 3.5+ year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 2.5+ year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a complicated illness, and it can be hard to get your family and friends on board with it. Today we’re tackling how to deal with both unsupportive and supportive relationships, and what that can mean for your healing. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 1:59 Developing empathy from this illness 3:10 Non-supportive relationships 3:59 Barbara’s story of building emotional walls 7:44 Establishing boundaries - why and how 13:00 Toxic Positivity 15:15 Benefits of couples therapy 21:00 Getting that support from The CIRS Group

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a genetic illness. Your genes don’t mean you’re doomed, but being aware of them will help you avoid the triggers that together could cause you chronic illness like CIRS, chronic fatigue, Fibromyalgia, and more. Today we’ll dig into what those genetic haplotypes are, what they mean, and how you can help yourself and your family avoid chronic illness no matter what your genes might say. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 0:35 Why you should get your genes tested 2:12 How genes are connected to CIRS 3:03 How the Genetic Haplotypes affect your CIRS experience 4:46 Genetic implications for your children and family 7:13 Struggling to convince family of CIRS is common

HELPFUL LINKS: The HLA-DR Calculator at MyHouseMakesMeSick.com: https://myhousemakesmesick.com/hlacalc/ Our episode with pediatrician Dr. Scott McMahon re: kids with CIRS (he goes into the genetic factor as well as how to educate your kids about CIRS): https://youtu.be/kBuAj41cHbo?si=E398hLWhrpGfrYma

The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Pre-order Jacie’s book! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com Today we’re talking about the second phase of the Shoemaker Protocol, the only clinically proven way to treat CIRS or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome. The second phase includes Lipid Replacement, Limbic Retraining, and removing yourself from exposure.

TIME STAMPS: 0:38 The Shoemaker Protocol: Phase 2, the Foundation Phase 1:50 Lipid Replacement 4:10 Happy CIRSiversary to us 4:28 How to do lipid replacement 8:34 Limbic Retraining 14:00 Stuck in a rut 14:27 What can you do right now 14:41 Removing yourself from exposure 16:48 General hatred of Florida 18:20 Removing yourself from exposure is hard, but so worth it 19:55 How to test your home and/or workplace 21:20 Lyme, Red Tide, Long COVID 23:36 Bonus step: Do whatever it takes to feel good

DNRS: https://retrainingthebrain.com/ Gupta Program: https://www.guptaprogram.com/ The Joy Plan: https://kaiaroman.com/book/ Envirobiomics #7 test: https://www.envirobiomics.com/product/sm-aeh-actino-endotoxin-hertsmi-2/?v=7516fd43adaa ISEAI article on finding an IEP, or Indoor Environmental Professional: https://iseai.org/finding-the-right-indoor-environmental-professional-to-assess-your-home/ Look up a CIRS practitioner here: https://www.survivingmold.com/shoemaker-protocol/list-of-certified-practitioners

Jacie is a 3 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a wealth and wellness coach, 2 year carnivore and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a complicated illness. Thankfully, the folks at ProgeneDX have created an in-depth and new test to take that can actually measure the up and down regulation of your genes as a result of CIRS, and even identifies the biotoxins responsible for the inflammation and symptoms you’re experiencing. This can be a great tool for people to get specific about their type of exposure and better tailor their treatment plan. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS:

0:00 Intro and disclaimer

2:50 The purpose of the GENIE test and when to do it

5:10 How much does the GENIE cost

6:26 The GENIE test is a snapshot in time

7:41 How the GENIE can help you focus your remediation efforts

8:30 Concerns around the GENIE test interpretation

11:10 GENIE test vs NeuroQuant

12:08 Why Barbara got the GENIE test

13:13 How to get the GENIE test

19:48 Jacie’s great summary of all the stuff Barbara said

22:12 Extra tips for dealing with this test

Info on the GENIE test: https://www.progenedx.com/

Dry Ice locator: https://dryicedirectory.com/

(but I bet most big chain grocery stores have them, just call ahead or stop by and ask)

Barbara’s reel for getting the GENIE test done: https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cy6Blq1xOmF/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

We attended CIRSx 2023 and learned a ton of new info and are bringing you the highlights today! We had to split up the whole CIRSx weekend into two parts, so here is part one!  For more information, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 00:00 Intro 00:30 CIRSx overall impressions 04:00 Screening for CIRS  - Dr. Eric Dorninger 07:05 Why Buildings Fail to Protect our Health - Paula Baker La Porte 08:17 My Very Own Sirewall - Ming Dooley 10:19 CIRSx Workplan - Cindy Edwards 11:43 The Anti-Inflammatory Benefit of the Carnivore Diet - Judy Cho 13:45 NextGen Sequencing: More than Actinos - David Lark 16:45 The Immunomodulatory Effects of Camel Milk for CIRS Patients with ASD - Dr. Jodie Dashore 19:30 New Neurological Applications of GENIE, Neuroquant, and ALS - Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker 20:25 An Integrative Approach to Parkinson's - Dr. Laurie Mischley 24:38 Slaying Water Damage Dragons: A Patient Experience - Chris Foth and Aaron Pettigrew 27:30 In Pursuit of Underlying Causes of Contaminated Buildings - Brandon Apple 29:40 Using Peptide Bonds and Proteins to Monitor Cleanliness - John Banta 30:31 Join us next week for Part 2!

CIRSx website: https://www.cirsx.com/2023-cirsx-annual-conference

Jacie is a 3.5+ year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 2.5+ year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

What is the best way to eat to support your healing journey? If you have CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, there are some important things to keep in mind. Today we’ll talk about how we eat and what we’ve seen work best for people. For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

For more information, about chronic inflammatory response syndrome visit: https://thecirsgroup.com

Thank you to everyone who joined our Q&A webinar, if you are here to watch the replay, you can preview the questions using the timestamps below.

Jacie is a 3 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a wealth and wellness coach, 2 year carnivore and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

TIME STAMPS: 00:00 intro and welcome 03:38 how long did it take to get from the first to last step of the protocol? 05:40 is mold the only biotoxin that can trigger CIRS? 07:00 why can't you do all the steps at the same time? 08:15 what weird symptoms are related to CIRS? teeth and dental issues? 11:10 do you remain carnivore for your autoimmune conditions or for other reasons? 12:40 can you "cure" CIRS just by leaving the bad environment? 13:40 is there one singular blood marker that can identify CIRS? 15:59 how do you know when it is appropriate to ask your employer to remediate vs seek new employment? 17:50 what is VIP? 19:00 do people experience tendon/ligament pain with CIRS? 20:15 can you heal with binders while living in mold? 22:45 is there a state you would recommend as safest to live in? 24:45 should we expect to be on binders indefinitely? 26:00 if you have the low msh haplotype, is it impossible to have normal msh levels? 26:45 does MTHFR have any correlation to CIRS? 27:47 is welchol less constipating than cholestyramine? 28:55 what do you recommend for constipation on carnivore when higher fat doesn't work? 30:15 why would welchol make me feel like I am losing my mind? 31:20 did you experience sleep disturbances while on the binders? 33:00 have your GI issues improved with CIRS treatment 35:40 why does CIRS cause sleep issues? 36:25 if I am on a mold toxicity protocol should I also pursue CIRS treatment? 38:20 I am waiting to start CIRS treatment, is there anything I can do to start feeling better now? 41:45 does VIP reverse autoimmune conditions like hashimotos? 42:35 why did the binders make me feel worse than before I started them? 43:15 do reservatol and curcumin help lower tgfb1 and c4a? 44:20 what is a good indicator to see if the binders are working? 45:58 does having the lyme haplotype increase your potential to have the mold haplotype? 46:54 can you heal from CIRS without treating Lyme first? 47:15 does carpet hold onto mold? 48:10 what is the timeline of healing and what does "cured" look like with CIRS? 50:20 where is a good place to learn about the basics of CIRS? 50:55 how do you find a CIRS provider near where you live? 51:50 how much are the binders per month without insurance? 52:25 does CIRS treatment also heal co-infections? 53:30 what is the best carnivore diet for healing? 54:40 is there a correlation between vitamin d and msh? 55:25 can carnivore make you feel worse? 56:38 is there any research regarding the effectiveness of vitamin d supplements vs sunshine? 57:18 will I ever lose weight with carnivore? 59:00 what is the deal with muscle spasms on CIRS? 59:48 what other histamine reactions can you get from sun exposure aside from a rash? 01:00:00 I bruise easily, could this be CIRS? 01:02:45 since going through CIRS treatment, have you returned to a "normal" mental state 01:04:00 thank you for joining!

For more information, visit: https://thecirsgroup.com

We do see a lot more women joining our group, but CIRS does not discriminate! Today we tackle how CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, aka Mold Illness, affects men differently than it affects women (or does it?).

TIME STAMPS:

0:20 Are women more impacted by chronic illness than men?

1:58 Men and women experience CIRS pretty similarly

2:23 The symptoms may present differently between the sexes

3:00 How and why CIRS affects your hair

4:08 Libido and Erectile Dysfunction

7:07 Procreate, fill the earth, make some babies

9:01 CIRS is treatable

Jacie is a 3 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a wealth and wellness coach, 2 year carnivore and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a complicated illness that usually requires costly treatment and remediation. Insurance rarely covers it, and because CIRS can cause us to work less (or less optimally) it turns into a bad cycle. This is why we’ve tackled today’s topic: What you can do for as little money as possible now, while you wait to save up for your first appointment with a CIRS literate practitioner. This episode focuses on OTC options and lifestyle changes you can do, not as a replacement for treatment, but as a way to feel as good as you can before starting treatment. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 1:27 How to get pretty darn sure of your diagnosis cheaply 4:41 How to eat and supplement while you wait to see a doctor 8:00 Remove yourself from exposure: 8:38 How to “cheaply” improve levels of mold, actinos, endos 11:00 Hidden areas toxins can hide: Fridge, Washing Machine, Drains 13:49 Consider moving, and environment testing 14:38 Lyme 15:57 COVID and vaccines 19:11 Histamine issues and MCAS 19:57 Things to remove: IUDs, birth control, Implants, botox 21:58 Things to add to your life: Sun, movement, sleep

HELPFUL LINKS: Two options for taking the VCS test: https://www.vcstest.com/ https://www.survivingmold.com/resources-for-patients/diagnosis/visual-contrast-sensitivity-vcs Symptom clusters on third slide here: https://www.instagram.com/p/C2rhdMUMjwr/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== History of exposure options on first page: https://www.google.com/url?client=internal-element-cse&cx=a58887261996f4f05&q=https://www.survivingmold.com/docs/KJohnson_CIRS_ESSAY.PDF&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjwqd-oj9mEAxVsBEQIHSbmCQQQFnoECAMQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2euIEAyOFCdRuaLQcUT6bG Omaprem supplements: https://www.nutritionwithjudy.com/shopping/inflammation/omaprem-spm-fatty-acids Envirobiomics test most often recommended by CIRS doctors: https://www.envirobiomics.com/product/sm-aeh-actino-endotoxin-hertsmi-2/?v=7516fd43adaa Dr. Peg DeTulio, Lyme specialist: https://regenixhealing.com/home-page COVID episode: https://youtu.be/lBQ0xi1tHLo?si=-Iw1G6AcAtevp6uz Surviving Mold write up COVID: https://www.survivingmold.com/legal-resources/dr.-shoemaker-essays/new-research-article FLCCC protocol: https://covid19criticalcare.com

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

Today we’re talking about how CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, affects the brain. We can determine the effects using a special kind of MRI, called a Neuroquant. To help us explore this fun topic, we’ve invited Dr. Christian Navarro-Torres from the CIRS lab!

TIME STAMPS 00:00 Introduction 00:30 Welcome, Christian! 01:00 What is CIRSLab? 01:30 Online Workshop July 9th 02:00 Coaching 02:42 Christian's Academic/Professional Background 03:40 Christian's CIRS Journey 05:30 Christian's Academic Research and its connection to CIRS 08:30 How many languages does Christian speak and why is Jacie bad at English 10:07 Is the ability to learn languages nature or nurture? 12:45 Intro to the Neuroquant 13:00 What is CIRS? 17:00 What is a Neuroquant? 20:00 How long does it take to get the results? 21:00 Where can you get the Neuroqant done? 21:40 Can the Neuroquant determine the biotoxin you are reacting to? 23:10 Neuroqant and Alzheimers  23:54 You have a tiny hippocampus jokes 24:23 Neuroquant as a stand alone diagnostic tool 25:15 What is the GENIE? 25:36 Associations between the Neuroquant and the GENIE?  26:05 How do they diagnose CIRS using the Neuroquant? 27:00 COVID and CIRS 27:40 Scoring the Neuroquant 29:30 We talk ignorantly about golf for too long 31:40 What kind of scores do we see in CIRS patients? 33:30 Why you need a qualified professional to interpret your results 35:25 What changes can you expect to see in the Neuroquant after going through CIRS treatment?  37:40 VIP and changes to the brain structure 40:51 Volume improvements after treatment 42:10 Other benefits of VIP, including resolving PTSD 43:05 VIP removes memory traces of CIRS at a neuron level 45:15 Nuances to brain volume measurements 48:30 Smooth brain jokes 48:50 Where to find more from Christian 51:10 The most chaotic outro ever

Links CIRSLab Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cirslab/ Online Workshop: https://www.instagram.com/p/CuLTGcHpqRc/ Where to find the Neuroquant: https://www.survivingmold.com/mold-symptoms/neuroquant-locations VIP Effects on the Brain: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-80873-2

Jacie is a 3.5+ year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 2.5+ year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is already a complicated illness with a complicated treatment plan. For those outside the United States, access to care can be even more difficult. If you are struggling to find a doctor who can see you or get access to parts of the Shoemaker Protocol, this episode is for you. Though we still believe, based on decades of research, that the Shoemaker Protocol is the gold standard to heal from CIRS or mold illness, we are so happy to know that there are alternatives you may be able to pursue while you wait to see a doctor (or perhaps don’t have access to one where you live). For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 0:23 Dr. Kate Barry 0:56 Dr. Barry’s own experience with CIRS and chronic fatigue 3:12 How CIRS might be complicated to treat outside of the States 6:30 The dangers of not testing a new home before you move in 8:40 How environment/home testing is done in Australia 10:29 Binder alternatives when access or tolerance is limited 14:30 Timing and support becomes more important with less effective binders 15:33 VIP access or alternatives outside the US 19:00 NueroQuant, GENIE tests difficult in Australia 20:15 Prepwork anyone should do before you start the protocol: diet 23:00 Lifestyle changes, hydration, and stress management 24:30 Gut health and detox pathways 27:00 The importance of having a guide for these therapies 28:00 The importance of creating your health team 29:05 The importance of creating momentum at the start of your journey 29:40 There are ways to adapt the protocol and your care for your needs 32:00 The CIRS Summit: December 1-6 33:30 How to work with Dr. Kate Barry

HELPFUL LINKS: Sign up for the CIRS Summit! https://thecirssummit.com Find out more about Dr. Kate Barry: https://www.drkatehealth.com/ Her Symptom Cluster resource: https://www.drkatehealth.com/symptom-analysis Schedule a 15 minute call with Dr. Barry: https://www.drkatehealth.com/service-page/discovery-call

The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Pre-order Jacie’s book! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a meat-based certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, meat-based, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is caused by several different environmental toxins. None are more damaging than POOP! So today, we are talking all about endotoxins: what they are, what they do to your body, how to test your home, and how to maintain a clean home, free from poopy little guys. Check out the time stamps and links below, and for more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 1:45 What are endotoxins? 3:28 Why an absence of odor doesn’t mean you’re safe 5:18 Why are endotoxins so bad? 6:40 Where do endotoxins come from? 8:40 Ways to test for endotoxins 11:04 How to test your home for endotoxins 12:25 Smoke Test 14:09 The importance of hiring an Indoor Environmental Professional 16:34 How to maintain the health of your home 20:43 Special note about Studor Vents 22:10 Replacing toilet seals 23:15 Internal Endotoxins

HELPFUL LINKS: Our GENIE episodes: https://youtu.be/bCNp9qNqWWc?si=SFpDQpsk8Mely7pP https://youtu.be/OoiT7WZ_UJI?si=XdghIUym5Tj0fpHL Envirobiomic’s test for Endos: https://www.envirobiomics.com/product/e-endotoxin/ Our interview with IEP Michael Schrantz: https://youtu.be/_BEwFVdpRcY?si=HfHrmHcNhVLt5xjs Green Gobbler product: https://greengobbler.com/

The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Pre-order Jacie’s book! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a complicated illness with a complex treatment plan. It can be difficult to attain the level of perfection your doctor may require for you to heal. Today we tackle ways to not let perfect be the enemy of good, and hopefully give you some ideas to “still live your life” while you’re trying to heal. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 1:03 Perfect vs real life 2:15 Location: dry vs humid climates 6:58 Cleaning: Minimalism vs Maximalism 10:40 Diet: Carnivore vs Standard American diet 12:10 Efficiency of treatment through testing

HELPFUL LINKS: Episode on best way of eating with CIRS: https://youtu.be/jln8kKR5PiE Episode on environment testing: https://youtu.be/CK0rPJE5Gcs

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

We are continuing our CIRSx conference recap today, this time specifically deep diving on all the talks given around remediation! Remaining in exposure is one of the biggest hurdles for people trying to heal from CIRS when caused by mold, so today we cover some great tips and details we learned at CIRSx from the experts. For more information, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 00:00 Intro    02:21 A protocol for remediation: CIRSx Work Plan: Cindy Edwards 3:20 Case study of how remediation can go poorly and how to do it right 5:40 Steps of Cindy’s protocol 7:58 Why cutting corners may not be the right move 10:06 NextGen Sequencing: More than Actinos: David Lark 10:39 Why actinos cleaning is a good idea 13:26 GENIE Test 14:32 Slaying Water Damage Dragons - A Patient Experience with WDB: Chris Foth and Aaron Pettigrew 15:20 Why project managers may be needed for CIRS treatment 16:34 In Pursuit of Underlying Causes of Contaminated Buildings: Brandon Apple 18:46 Why remediation is an investigation 19:35 Why you shouldn’t just rely on ERMI or HERTSMI-2 scores 21:23  Using Peptide Bonds and Proteins to Monitor Cleanliness: John Banta 23:06 Even Holy Water Supports Mold: Michael Schrantz and Bill Weber 25:00 IEPs: Columbo for water 28:50 Dust Mites: So Uncontroversial, it's Mostly Forgotten Carl Grimes 31:27 Historical vs Modern Dust Greg Weatherman 32:50 Controversy over horizontal or vertical collection for testing 33:54 Barbara's Remediation Takeaways: Rot vs decay for insurance 34:52 OSB sucks, Plywood is better 35:27 Stone materials need to weep 36:16 Endotoxins: homesteading is a risk 37:05 Clean, clean, clean and clean some more

Mold Illness: Surviving and Thriving by Cindy Edwards, et al.: https://a.co/d/5MHn4PN or official website: http://survivingandthrivingbook.com/ Info on the GENIE test: https://www.progenedx.com/how-does-this-help Places to look for an IEP, though these certs do not guarantee their aptitude: International Society for Environmentally Acquired Illness: https://iseai.org/ American Council for Accredited Certification: https://www.acac.org/ Brandon Apple’s website: https://www.moldsci.com/ John Banta’s website: https://www.johncbanta.com/ Michael Schrantz’s website: https://environmentalanalytics.net/about-us/ Bill Weber’s contact info: https://avelar.net/articles_publications/team/bill-weber/ Carl Grimes’ published research on dust mites: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24267359/ Greg Weatherman’s website: http://www.aerobiological.com/

Jacie is a 3.5+ year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 2.5+ year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is an illness that almost always has devastating effects on a VERY important blood marker: MSH, or Melanocyte Stimulating Hormone. MSH affects everything from sleep, hormones, gut health, mental health, energy, and so much more. If you are struggling in any of these arenas, this episode is for you. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 1:50 How is MSH produced 3:05 What does MSH do? 3:58 MSH and sleep issues 6:20 Healthy MSH range 6:58 How to raise MSH 7:32 MARCoNs and MSH 10:19 Supplemental protocols to increase MSH 13:00 Other helpful tips to raise MSH: Sunlight 14:21 KPV 15:38 What NOT to do to raise MSH

HELPFUL LINKS: Buy Jacie’s book (and leave a review!): https://a.co/d/1uYwP0q Check out The CIRS Summit VIP pass to watch 50+ interviews with CIRS experts on every topic, including MSH and MARCoNs: http://thecirssummit.com/ Watch the CIRSx Talk about increasing MSH: https://vimeo.com/showcase/11385222/video/955676586

The CIRS Group: Join our support community: https://thecirsgroup.com Check out our instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Order Jacie’s book! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is what we were diagnosed with three years ago. A little over two years ago, we started this podcast - and this week we celebrate 100 episodes! Today we discuss what CIRS has taught us: tips and cautionary tales for healing, how to navigate things when it gets complicated, and reminders of what’s most important. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 1:40 Don’t cut corners like skipping remediation 3:48 Doing the right tests at the right time 5:45 Healing is a marathon, not a sprint 9:04 Expect setbacks 10:30 Everyone is different 11:50 Peeling back the layers of the onion: co-infections 13:05 It’s OK to take breaks, just keep going when you can 15:10 Share your story 16:30 CIRS hits your weakest points 18:50 Record your symptoms so you can reflect on improvements 20:18 Jacie is working out now! Healing is possible 21:08 CIRS will test your relationships 23:23 Join a support community

The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Other CIRS Support Communities: CIRS Lab: https://cirslab.com Jenny Johnson’s group: https://simplifiedwellnessdesigns.com/cirs-healing-collective Melanie Pensak’s Meditation for CIRS community: https://thepracticeportal.circle.so/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet!  https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a complicated illness, but we hope to break down some of the bigger tasks into smaller, more manageable ones for you in this episode. We will cover nutritional goals, cleaning, medication timing, fitness goals, and limbic/emotional support goals and give you tangible, actionable steps for each so you can start building better habits in 2025! For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 0:35 JACIE HAS A BOOK!! Benefits of carnivore 3:17 Look for a doctor or work with a coach 7:17 How to build CIRS habits in a sustainable way 7:40 Cleaning habits/strategies 9:13 Vacuuming, drains, bathrooms 13:10 Remembering to take medications and supplements 15:10 Building a fitness and movement routine 18:13 Limbic Work, preparing and supporting yourself mentally, Vision Boarding 21:10 Find a support network, accountability buddy, or group

HELPFUL LINKS: Buy Jacie’s book (and leave a review!): https://a.co/d/1uYwP0q Check Surviving Mold for CIRS doctors: https://www.survivingmold.com/shoemaker-protocol/find-a-physician-in-my-area Published Research to present to your doctor: https://www.survivingmold.com/Downloads/Dooley-McMahon_Final_Publication_-_3-30-2020.pdf https://www.survivingmold.com/Publications/CIRS_diagnostic_protocol_final_5_1_2018.pdf Wire rack/shower caddy to hold bottles: https://a.co/d/2YOZctc Green Gobbler: https://a.co/d/bWBpJMH The Joy Plan book: https://a.co/d/1mZIXNm Our episode on Limbic Retraining: https://youtu.be/tTzgIsdYovA?si=Z8iEDmZcOKUBy12c

The CIRS Group: Join our support community: https://thecirsgroup.com Check out our instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Pre-order Jacie’s book! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a chronic illness that occurs in 25% of the population that gets exposed to environmental toxins like mold, red tide, spider or tick bites, and even some vaccines and viruses. Today, we have a special return guest Dr. Christian Navarro-Torres, and we are going off script, away from the clinically proven path for healing from CIRS with the Shoemaker Protocol: Exploring the potential for good that comes in the form of pure Nicotine. This may be a controversial topic - but as always, this is not medical advice! We are exploring the possibilities for treatment in the future and hopefully opening the conversation around alternative methods to help the body recover from CIRS. More research is needed, but it’s fun to play “what if.” For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS:

0:00 Intro and disclaimer

1:24 What is Nicotine?

3:00 Overlap between Nicotine and VIP

4:35 Immunomodulation by both Nicotine and VIP

6:03 Nicotine can stimulate VIP receptors

6:51 Cancer risk with Nicotine use

8:30 Smoking/Vaping vs taking Nicotine in pure form

10:05 Long COVID symptom resolution with Nicotine

15:12 Jacie’s experience with Nicotine

17:25 Christian’s experience with Nicotine

22:13 Barbara’s experience with Nicotine

24:32 Nicotine recommendations: NicNac

26:32 Nicotine dosage

28:13 Arginine supplementation with Nicotine

30:40 Cravings and withdrawal concerns

32:40 Potential in the future for CIRS patients

37:15 Outro

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The CIRS Group:

Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory

Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/

Limbic Training Community: https://www.wired4healing.com

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:

Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

HELPFUL LINKS:

VIP Spray episode: https://youtu.be/A3YXtkYMnL0?si=mSSC-nwWrYTjFcQ6

NicNac, use Christian’s discount code CIRSLAB: https://www.nicnac.com/

Come to CIRSx: https://www.cirsx.com/

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, can be exacerbated by histamine response, or MCAS, aka Mast Cell Activation Syndrome. There are ways to keep this in check as you heal, and there is actually a good reason to address it that can mean raising your MSH!  Check out the time stamps and links below, and for more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 0:46 Histamines and what it does in your body 2:42 MCAS or mast cell activation syndrome 5:10 How MCAS/histamine treatment can help MSH 6:21 How to know if you have a histamine reaction 7:37 Ways to treat histamine reactions 11:00 Low histamine foods 13:18 Striking a balance in managing histamines

HELPFUL LINKS MENTIONED: Cromolyn Sodium nasal spray: https://a.co/d/aIZMfA4 Billy Doe Meats: https://billydoemeats.com/

The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Pre-order Jacie’s book! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, can sometimes be “followed” or accompanied by co-infections. Today, we are diving into one of the most convoluted and confusing potential avenues CIRS patients might need to address: Tick-borne illnesses, of which there are many and not just Lyme disease! We are honored to have the leading expert in tick-borne illnesses with us today to help break it down: Dr. Peg DeTulio, who has decades of experience with 1000s of patients. Did you know it’s possible 20-50% of people with CIRS are also struggling with a tick-borne illness? If your healing journey has stalled, this may be a rabbit hole worth investigating. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS:

0:00 Intro and disclaimer

3:00 Tick-Borne illnesses vs Lyme

4:55 Symptoms of tick-borne illness

6:28 For CIRS patients: treat mold before you address tick-borne

9:38 Red flag: Improvements but some symptoms remain

11:20 Western Blot test after CIRS is treated

12:42 C3a and tick borne illness

14:36 Testing process for tick-borne illnesses

19:05 Night Sweats that do not resolve

20:15 Air hunger or sighing at rest

21:08 Using an herb before testing to wake up the illness

22:28 Endemic areas and other risk factors

27:36 How common is tick-borne illness within the CIRS community

28:33 Can GENIE or NeuroQuant rule out Lyme or tick-borne illness

31:58 How treatable are tick-borne illnesses?

35:42 The benefits of treating slowly and carefully

40:30 How to spread awareness of tick-borne illness

HELPFUL LINKS:

Dr. Peg Detulio’s website: https://regenixhealing.com/

Dr. Peg’s interview with Judy Cho: https://youtu.be/bjc2twvHGFs?si=9aJyIVGHmUp8Zj2r

The CIRS Group:

Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory

Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:

Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is an illness usually caused by your genes. But there are two different genetic based tests you can get! One to determine your Genetic HLA Haplotype, and one to see what genes are up or down regulated. Both inform your treatment to varying degrees, so today we want to help you understand which does what and whether these tests make sense for you. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 1:05 The confusion between genetic haplotypes vs GENIE tests 2:00 HLA Genetic Haplotypes: what is that? 4:08 Why HLA testing is important 5:04 HLA does not change, and you’ll probably need help to figure out what it is 6:42 Autoimmune genes vs CIRS genes 8:08 What is the GENIE test? 8:50 When should you get the GENIE test? 9:55 GENIE shows the expression of genes 11:30 What the GENIE can tell you 11:50 How to interpret your GENIE (hint: get help) 13:37 When and whether to test if you are tight on funds

HELPFUL LINKS: Buy Jacie’s book (and leave a review!): https://a.co/d/1uYwP0q The CIRS Summit: http://thecirssummit.com/ MyHouseMakesMeSick HLA calculator: https://www.myhousemakesmesick.com/hlacalc/ Our GENIE test episodes: https://youtu.be/bCNp9qNqWWc?si=Y0naeyaEGVUXYm5W https://youtu.be/OoiT7WZ_UJI?si=s6aUTNO3iLf9fKvQ Order the GENIE here: https://www.progenedx.com/product-index Book a consultation with Christian to interpret your GENIE: https://cirslab.circle.so/checkout/11-with-christian

The CIRS Group: Join our support community: https://thecirsgroup.com Check out our instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Order Jacie’s book! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

Today we’re talking about tips for traveling with CIRS - choosing where to go, what to bring with you, what medications can help, and what to ask your practitioner before you go.  For more information, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 1:20 Why you can be more normal after treatment 2:34 Considerations for travel - make it easy 4:08 Call ahead re: water damage 4:53 Find out the age of the building 5:36 Travel items: binders, VIP, air purifier 6:18 Getting ice packs through TSA 8:20 Worrying is not helpful, instead be aware 9:45 Work with your practitioner on a plan 11:14 Re-take the VCS test 12:59 Join The CIRS Group for more resources

VCS test: https://www.vcstest.com/

Jacie is a 3.5+ year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 2.5+ year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a complicated illness with a healing journey that is rarely linear. Today, we wanted to acknowledge how tough some complex CIRS cases can be, so you know you’re not alone if your path to healing hasn’t been as straightforward as you wish it was. Also, we hope this episode gives you some ideas on what to do next if you feel like your healing has stalled. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 1:10 Setbacks from travel re-exposure 2:05 COVID or Spike Protein triggering event 3:00 Staying put to heal 4:18 Limbic Retraining and therapy 5:40 Tick-borne illness and Lyme 8:32 Dental infections, root canal issues 11:00 Leaky Gut, GI issues, H. Pylori, SIBO/SIFO, Candida 13:23 MCAS and Histamine issues 14:10 DHEA, Testosterone supplementation 15:25 Thyroid function support 16:35 Validation for how unfair but also normal the setbacks can be 18:48 As you heal, your immune system comes back online

HELPFUL LINKS: Spike Protein Protocol episode: https://youtu.be/lBQ0xi1tHLo?si=UxJQuff6hQirCS4b Limbic Retraining episode: https://youtu.be/tTzgIsdYovA?si=D-icIBUld7uT1dMw Dr. Peg interview about tick-borne illnesses and Lyme: https://youtu.be/czSjykCdOR4?si=VGnEQ58HvKebVyg1 Work with Judy Cho to fix your gut: https://www.nutritionwithjudy.com/ Our CIRSx recap that includes Dr. Peg and Christian Navarro-Torres’ talk on MSH and histamines: https://youtu.be/qkL6OuiD2mQ?si=zo4reKuhfJ4gOY-T

The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Pre-order Jacie’s book! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a chronic illness and the only clinically proven path to healing is through the Shoemaker Protocol. Today, we are tackling the tricky topic of medication and supplement timing. Many CIRS patients, ourselves included, struggle with when to take our binders, when to eat, and when it’s safe to take other meds, so we thought this would be a good topic to dig into. As always, none of this is medical advice. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 0:48 Supplements and Binder timing can feel overwhelming at first 1:48 Why the binders are so tricky 2:42 Welchol vs CSM and eating fat afterwards 4:40 Thyroid medication and other supplements 5:40 Jacie’s medication/supplement schedule 7:02 Barbara’s medication/supplement schedule 9:45 There are shades of gray - just do your best 11:35 Strategies to implement: timers, reminders, alarms, sticky notes 13:19 Writing meds out like a To Do list 14:10 Phosphatidylcholine tips (and Barbara’s face) 16:04 CSM tips 18:40 Outro

HELPFUL LINKS: Pill organizer: https://a.co/d/4JbZgQk Frother/electric whisk for CSM: https://a.co/d/0YWS0jw

The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Limbic Training Community: https://www.wired4healing.com

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a multi-system, multi-symptom illness that affects 24% of the population. Unfortunately, very few doctors are educated and certified to help you heal from it. Today, we want to help you find the doctor and health coach that is right for you. Check out the links below for more resources to aid you in your search. Healing is possible! For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS:

0:00 Intro and disclaimer

0:50 Why use a Shoemaker certified practitioner

3:00 How to find a Shoemaker certified practitioner

5:24 How to use your general practitioner in conjunction with a Proficiency Partner

6:34 Shoemaker Certified Practitioner vs Proficiency Partner

8:35 Cautionary tale re: using a non-Shoemaker certified doctor

10:37 The benefits of adding a Proficiency Partner to your team

11:40 Educating your CIRS-ignorant providers

HELPFUL LINKS MENTIONED:

Surviving Mold website: https://www.survivingmold.com

Book with Christian: https://consult-christian.as.me/schedule/a89e8b00

Nutrition with Judy: https://www.nutritionwithjudy.com/

CIRS studies to share with your doctor: https://www.survivingmold.com/Downloads/Dooley-McMahon_Final_Publication_-_3-30-2020.pdf

https://www.survivingmold.com/Publications/CIRS_diagnostic_protocol_final_5_1_2018.pdf

Our podcast on What is CIRS: https://youtu.be/eqso4R0cQhg?si=lceCk-iCRfG1NnVf

The CIRS Group:

Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Other CIRS Support Communities:

CIRS Lab: https://cirslab.com

Jenny Johnson’s group: https://simplifiedwellnessdesigns.com/cirs-healing-collective

Melanie Pensak’s Meditation for CIRS community: https://thepracticeportal.circle.so/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:

Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet!  https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory

Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/

Find Barbara for health and business tips and coaching:

Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Book a CIRS coaching call with Barbara: https://calendly.com/actlikebarbara/cirs-coaching

Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Jacie is a 3 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer. Barbara is a business coach, 2 year carnivore and a big fan of health and freedom. Together they co-founded The CIRS Group to help people struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

https://thecirsgroup.com

Jacie's health took a turn for the worst in mid 2021, when she suddenly experienced a chain of terrible symptoms like plantar fasciitis, uveitis, GI issues, and was diagnosed with non-radiographic axial ankylosing spondyloarthritis, and was told it was a reactive arthritis (which means her AS was triggered by something), but turns out she actually had Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome the whole time. To join The CIRS Group or for more information about it, please visit https://thecirsgroup.com

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, can sometimes cause intense, ongoing pain in severe cases. Joints, ligaments, muscles, your GI system, and even your brain can feel like it is on fire, and many normal pain medications won’t give relief. Today we wanted to do a special episode focusing on pain management for those of you experiencing pain that is incessant in hopes that one of these options might help you finally find some relief. As always, this is not medical advice: be sure to consult your CIRS doctor for which pain relief option might be best for you. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 0:40 Advocate for yourself 1:50 Address root cause, but make it tolerable too 3:55 Low Dose Naltrexone 4:28 Cannabis, marijuana, or weed 6:25 CBD 7:05 Kratom 7:28 Ketamine Therapy 8:20 Curcumin 9:24 MSM or Methylsulfonylmethane 9:40 B1 therapy or B vitamins 10:13 More dangerous options: Benzos or Benzodiazepines 12:59 Opioids 15:38 NSAIDS 17:36 Other pain relieving activities: Heat or sauna 18:50 Cold plunges 19:12 Interact with animals

HELPFUL LINKS: B1 Protocol: https://thiamineprotocols.com/

The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Pre-order Jacie’s book! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

Let this be your guide to the first annual CIRS Summit! CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a complex illness, so there is a ton to learn about it as you receive your diagnosis and navigate the Shoemaker protocol to heal. Jacie and Barbara joined the steering committee to plan and produce this FREE event, the first of its kind that is geared towards patients. We break down the talks and point out our favorites, so we hope this helps you decide which talks to catch during the next replay, or whether it might be worth purchasing the upgraded ticket for access to replay at your convenience. All proceeds go towards important CIRS Research. To watch the CIRS Summit, visit https://the-ultimate-cirs-summit.heysummit.com/

For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro, disclaimer, and where you can watch The CIRS Summit 5:30 Introduction to Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome by Jacie Gregory 6:10 Staying Healthy Post-Protocol: Managing Re-Exposures: Dr. Christian Navarro-Torres, Jenny Johnson PT, FMCHC, NBC-HWC, Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams 7:18 Building-Related Biotoxins: Mold, Bacteria and More by Larry Schwartz 7:30 Envirobiomics: Because Health Matters: Dust Testing and Blood Panel for CIRS by Gianni Rosinni 7:55 An Inconvenient Truth: Tick Borne Infections in CIRS Patients by Dr. Margaret DiTulio DNP, APRN 8:28 The Science Behind Brain Injury and Repair by Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker 9:10 Surviving Hypersensitivity in CIRS by Dr. Christian Navarro-Torres 9:54 Mindfully Navigating CIRS Recovery with Meditation by Melanie Joy Pensak M.S. CCC-SLP, CMT-P 10:28 The Devil is in the Differential: Diagnosing Chronic Illness by Dr. Margaret DiTulio DNP, APRN 10:35 Air Oasis: Love the Air you Breathe by Jon Bennert 10:40 Processing Grief: An Essential Step to Healing by Melanie Joy Pensak M.S. CCC-SLP, CMT-P, Dr. Lauren Sparks, Brenda Stewart LPC, LMHC, CTH & Mindy Mastruserio MS, NCC, LPC, CCTP-II 11:26 Understanding Red Hot Hands and Feet: Erythromelalgia in CIRS by Dr. Lauren Sparks 11:33 Common Remediation Mistakes and How to Avoid Them by Bill Weber 12:02 Leaky Buildings, Leaky Gut by Dr. Kellyn Milani NMD 12:07 CIRS: A Trauma-Based Illness by Dr. Andrew Heyman 12:10 Unlocking the Power of Genie to Inform your Recovery from CIRS by Louise Carder 12:50 The Importance of the HLA: Genetic Susceptibility to CIRS by Dr. Scott McMahon 13:11 The Importance of Family Support by Kendrah Betz & Matthew Betz 13:22 CIRS & Hormones by Dr. Anjali Noble 13:57 Eradicating MARCoNS by Dr. Joseph Mustom 14:08 Fixing Your Cells and Brain with Plasmalogens by Dr. Dayan Goodenowe 14:49 The Use of Peptides Beyond VIP by Dr. Christian Navarro-Torres 15:08 CIRS, Dysautonomia and Upper Cervical Care by Dr. Andrea Jordheim 16:10 Navigating Disordered Eating and CIRS by Brenda Stewart LPC, LMHC, CTH 16:30 Microbiology DX: Ordering and Understanding Marcons testing by Dr. Joseph Musto 17:16 PD Labs: Patient Driven Healthcare Solutions by Ray Solano 17:30 A Unique Way To Treat CIRS & Lyme by Dr. Laura Varga 17:40 Long Covid & CIRS by Jacie Gregory 18:09 Breathwork for the Moldy Brain by Morgan Glodowski 18:29 Deciphering the Alphabet Soup: CIRS Lab Tests and Reference Ranges by Dr. Ming Dooley 19:04 A Medically Important Professional Home Inspection for a CIRS Person by John Banta 20:06 Dietary Considerations for CIRS by Julia Davies 20:37 Setting Yourself Up for Success on the Shoemaker Protocol by Dr. Eric Dorninger 21:05 Navigating Project Pitfalls and Unlocking New Methods And Solutions by Brandon Apple 22:25 Healing from CIRS Outside the US by Louise Carder, Dr. Jodie Dashore, Mark Volmer & Kate Barry PhD 23:42 The Pain That No One Discusses: Suicidal Thoughts in CIRS by Mindy Mastruserio MS, NCC, LPC, CCTP-II 24:54 Minimizing the Financial Burden of CIRS Care by Alan Gruning DO 25:11 Coagulation & CIRS by Dr. James Ryan 25:35 Testing and Treating Bacterial Endotoxins in our Environment by Michael Schrantz, CIEC 26:39 Chasing the Ghosts of Water Damages Past by Greg Weatherman 27:11 Navigating Workplace Accommodations by Jane Prescot 27:40 How to Remediate and Maintain a Healthy Car by Mike Susi 29:00 Autoimmune illnesses and CIRS by Dr Miles Nichols 29:42 Assessing Your Own Home for Water Damage by Kendra Seymour 30:06 The Impact of Medical Trauma for CIRS Patients by Dr. Lauren Sparks 30:24 The Role of Clotting Disorders, Biofilm, and Actinobacteria in CIRS by Dr. Jacki Meinhardt 30:39 MoldCo: Online, Affordable Mold Illness Care and Treatments by Ariana Thacker 30:55 Putting it All Together: Patient Takeaways from The CIRS Summit by Jenny Johnson PT, FMCHC, NBC-HWC

HELPFUL LINKS: Sign up for The CIRS Summit! https://the-ultimate-cirs-summit.heysummit.com/ CIRSx talks (free!): https://www.cirsx.com/conference-archives/ CIRSx courses: https://institute.cirsx.com/

The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Pre-order Jacie’s book! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is difficult to treat outside the US, and for some, even finding a practitioner who understands the illness feels like an insurmountable task. It is even harder if you have a child with special needs that is suffering from CIRS as well. Thankfully, Dr. Jodie Dashore works with patients all over the world, young and old, and guides them through the Shoemaker Protocol as well as various plant-based medicinal therapies. Today, we discuss what it’s like to work with her, what conditions she addresses with her therapies, and some hope for those that are tired of being sick and looking for answers for themselves and their families. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 0:45 Dr. Jodie Dashore’s bio and how she got into CIRS treatment 6:04 When to use the Shoemaker Protocol vs the herbal therapies 11:27 When is the appropriate time to treat children 16:08 Address CIRS first, especially with PANS 19:38 The struggles of trying so many rabbit holes before finding CIRS 21:44 Resources for international patients and pediatric special needs 28:46 The CIRS Summit: December 1-6, 2024 31:04 What it’s like to work with Dr. Jodie Dashore

HELPFUL LINKS: Register for The CIRS Summit! http://thecirssummit.com/ Dr. Jodie Dashore’s website: https://bionexushealth.com/ Dr. Jodie Dashore’s podcast (latest episode referenced in this episode): https://youtu.be/ko--e5zlMAM?si=aY4GrYBYbtDaB93S

The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Pre-order Jacie’s book! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

Today we’re talking about CIRS and pets! Specifically, dogs and horses, and why this might affect you as a human with CIRS. This is a topic that’s near and dear to our hearts because Barbara’s dog, Rosie Cotton, very likely suffers with CIRS, or at least staph infections (MARCoNs). For more information, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro 0:48 Disclaimer: there’s not much info out there 1:05 Barbara’s experience with vets and CIRS 2:19 Horses and CIRS and Uveitis 3:33 Staph Infections, or MARCoNs, and dogs 5:05 Why you need to clear MARCoNs 5:26 Conditions of Dogs more likely to have staph colonies 6:17 What are actinos or actinomycetes? 7:14 25% of humans in the study had staph 8:09 Study on dogs with cholestyramine 9:05 Why vet intervention may be important, even for humans 9:27 Things you can do to minimize exposure with pets 11:48 Join us at TheCIRSGroup.com

The study re: dogs, staph, and their owners: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2870875/

Our podcast episode on actinos: https://youtu.be/q-KW5ZXUHVM

Study re: dogs and cholestyramine: https://cgejournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40575-021-00099-x

ASPCA info on using cholestyramine for dogs: https://www.aspcapro.org/resource/what-know-about-cholestyramine-resin-and-pets

Jacie is a 3.5+ year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 2.5+ year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is an illness of inflammation - and a lot of the symptoms of PMS, PMDD, periods, cramps, etc. are the result of inflammation too. When they get together at that time of the month, things can get rough. Today we wanted to take a closer look at why that is, and what you can do to deal with those symptoms better as you continue to heal. For more information, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

The period tracking app Jacie and Barbara both use, not an affiliate link: https://flo.health/

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is an expensive illness to treat - so why get unnecessary tests? Friggin don’t do it! Save your money. Today we tackle a very very popular, but very very pointless one: The Urinary Mycotoxin Test that supposedly tests you for mold. We will tell you why it’s pointless and feel free to send this to any doctor or practitioner that says otherwise. :)  For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 1:40 The only thing Urinary Mycotoxin Tests can tell you 2:44 No difference between healthy and chronically ill results 3:53 The danger of getting tested with others in your household 4:39 Bloodwork is also needed, making this urine test redundant at best 6:30 Urine tests do not indicate treatment: all mycotoxins need the same binder 7:40 The dangers of anti-fungals (-azoles) 8:47 Urine tests will not show progress in treatment accurately 9:34 The one saving grace of the urinary mycotoxin test 10:09 Barbara’s conspiracy theory on urine tests 11:35 Tell us if you took the urinary mycotoxin test and how it went for you

HELPFUL LINKS: https://www.survivingmold.com/Publications/Urinary_mycotoxins_10_8_19_RS_published.pdf

The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Pre-order Jacie’s book! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a complicated illness but thankfully certain prescription medications can actually help you heal from it. The medications we discuss today are all used by various Shoemaker certified practitioners for their patients with CIRS. If you are interested in any of these medications, check with your practitioner to see if it might work for you. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 1:25 Biotoxin Binders: Cholestyramine, Welchol 4:53 Consideration for binder reactivity, and non-prescription option 6:00 MARCoNs treatments: BEG, EDTA, Xlear, Silver 8:46 MARCoNs spray for treatment in dogs 10:54 VIP spray 14:35 Low Dose Naltrexone for pain and low mood 16:11 Cromolyn for MCAS or histamine issues

HELPFUL LINKS (not affiliate!): Mycobind: https://www.nutritionwithjudy.com/shopping/immune-support/mycobind Xlear: https://a.co/d/gosaTiV Xlear with Coptis: https://waldenfarmacy.com/product/coptis-nasal-spray/ Argentyn 23: https://a.co/d/ejtPaGN ACS spray: https://a.co/d/3sEVpSw Dogs and CIRS episode: https://youtu.be/6e_IznfWDec?si=dmiX7m76pC0ZhRje GENIE episode: https://youtu.be/bCNp9qNqWWc?si=FsbE1cddXvBoFZds

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

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Bonus illnesses? Heck yeah! There are 37 symptoms in the official CIRS diagnosis cluster list, but that doesn’t mean additional symptoms, illnesses, and syndromes don’t pop up quite often in people who are suffering from CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome. Here we talk about some common ones to look out for. Do you have any of these?

TIME STAMPS: 0:24 Jacie’s bonus illness: Ankylosing Spondylitis 0:41 Barbara’s bonus illnesses: SIBO or Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth and Alopecia Areata 2:15 The Symptom Clusters for CIRS Diagnosis 3:08 If conventional medicine can’t cure you, or if you have an autoimmune illness, look at CIRS 3:45 Jacie’s Uveitis, when doctors rename your symptoms or say Idiopathic - RUN 5:14 Fibromyalgia, Chronic Fatigue, SIBO, PCOS, migraines 6:00 The Carnivore community and CIRS: Carnivore-ing harder doesn’t work 7:35 Histamine Reactions and Mast Cell Activation Syndrome, or MCAS 8:18 Don’t worship at the idol of Carnivore - but its still the best way to eat 11:15 Trouble losing weight? It might be CIRS 12:05 Oxalate dumping

Jacie is a 3 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and wellness coach, 2 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

Today we’re talking about signs you might have CIRS. 1 in 4 people - that’s 25% of the population! - are genetically predisposed to having CIRS, or chronic inflammatory response syndrome, which means they are unable to process biotoxins out of their body if/when they encounter those biotoxins. Today we dig into some weird, random symptoms you might have that could point you towards CIRS as your path to root cause healing. For more information, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro 0:26 Why we think you should look into CIRS 2:37 Resources if you think you might have CIRS 2:53 Frequent headaches/migraines 3:30 Genetic issues - “it runs in my family!” 4:00 Excessive static shocks 4:25 Frequent urination, excessive thirst 5:01 Plantar Fasciitis 6:30 When carnivore is a bandaid 7:37 OCD, depression, anxiety 8:15 Hair loss 8:50 Muscle Cramps, electrolyte imbalances 9:40 Night sweats, dizziness, POTS 10:31 Forgetting why you walked into a room 11:07 Struggling to read 12:29 Histamine reactions, Mast Cell Activation Syndrome 13:05 Carnivoring harder 13:51 Pregnancy loss, severe PMS and menopause symptoms 15:57 Endometriosis, autoimmune conditions: Crohn's, Hashimoto's, Ulcerative Colitis, Lupus, Psoriasis, Celiac 18:28 Maybe she’s born with it, maybe its biotoxins 19:10 Remove yourself from exposure and see how you feel 20:06 Look into it, why not? 21:49 Biohacking your way to wellness, closet full of supplements 23:10 Join us at TheCIRSGroup.com

Our Instagram post about the symptom clusters: https://www.instagram.com/p/Cs1T3U9tXQU/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== VCS test: https://www.vcstest.com/ Bloodwork: https://www.nutritionwithjudy.com/shopping/lab-work/mini-chronic-inflammatory-response-syndrome-cirs-testing Our episode with Christian re: the Neuroquant and how CIRS affects the brain: https://youtu.be/aQyU51D7O-c

Jacie is a 3.5+ year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 2.5+ year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

Jacie is a 3 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer. Barbara is a business coach, 2 year carnivore and a big fan of health and freedom. Together they co-founded The CIRS Group to help people struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

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For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is the illness both Jacie and Barbara were diagnosed with in April 2022. They last gave a health update one year ago, so today we’re bringing you up to speed on their progress recovering from mold / biotoxin illness using the Shoemaker protocol and various supplemental therapies. They also cover grief and stress processing as well as travel and recovering from re-exposure. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 1:05 Jacie’s recap of her health journey 1:54 Nicotine 2:45 Tick Borne testing, plasmalogens, peptides, and resilience 3:25 Environment testing and moving plans 4:14 Travel experiences 4:45 NeuroQuant timing and more about Nicotine 6:50 Jacie feels good! But also dealt with re-exposures 8:40 Limbic Retraining and slowing down, stress management 9:55 Jacie’s Book! 12:00 Barbara’s update: grief processing and recap 15:05 Therapy: CPT for PTSD, and ADHD treatment 17:13 Stress Management and vision boarding 18:18 Barbara’s CIRS plans and nicotine use 20:26 Autoimmune flare-up: Alopecia Areata 22:34 Unexpected stress will affect your healing

HELPFUL LINKS: Order Jacie’s book! NOW AVAILABLE: The 30-Day Carnivore Boot Camp: A Beginner’s Guide to Successfully Doing an All-Meat Lifestyle: https://a.co/d/7MHCf5i Our past health update episode: https://youtu.be/NseNf6XLQxI?si=YYpJzX_dPKbHauYE Our Nicotine episode: https://youtu.be/hLumLIye7q4?si=VzQzNgQet5BjIosv

The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Pre-order Jacie’s book! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is your body’s immune system going haywire over some biotoxins it’s not able to eliminate. This havoc can really damage your body - and unfortunately, peeing on a stick (or in a cup) is probably not going to help you chill out your immune system and heal all the downstream effects. We want to save you time and money by explaining why the bad advice out there for “mold illness” and “mold detoxing” is bad, and why other advice is good, so we hope you enjoy and learn from today’s episode. For more information, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer  2:16 Mycotoxin Urine Analysis Tests 4:00 Test bloodmarkers instead 5:05 Jacie’s rant about what actually is going on with CIRS 7:47 Binders: charge matters 9:42 Removing yourself from exposure - cleaning matters 18:35 Even the doctors are still learning

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

This one hurts, guys. But it’s important. CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, can be a painful, isolating, debilitating illness. Today, we’re sharing stories our members allowed us to bring to you so you might understand CIRS a little better, or at least find empathy in your heart for those that suffer with it. And if you have CIRS, then I hope this validates your experience, even if no one in your life does. Despite the pain and sadness, we hope this is a message of hope for healing. It will get better, healing is possible. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com.

TIME STAMPS:

0:00 Intro and disclaimer

3:00 Tobey

3:57 Chad

4:28 Rosie

5:16 Missy

6:21 Gabriella

6:42 Gerald

7:04 Gloriana

8:15 Chike

9:05 Natascha

9:43 Kimberly

10:30 CIRS Mom

11:53 Chase

12:27 Ariel

13:27 Dorothy

13:42 Terrance

14:27 Tiffany

14:46 Kirk

15:40 Alyssa

16:44 Wrap up

For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

Jacie is a 3 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer. Barbara is a business coach, 2 year carnivore and a big fan of health and freedom. Together they co-founded The CIRS Group to help people struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

https://thecirsgroup.com

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, can be difficult to explain and difficult to treat, mostly because of the steps and how different everyone’s symptoms can look. The CIRS Project is a brand new non-profit that hopes to change all of that. They are focusing on making the message of CIRS clearer and more concise so less people are overwhelmed when they get diagnosed or when they try to explain it to loved ones. Beyond that, they are hoping to build clean housing that can be offered to underprivileged people needing to get out of exposure. We absolutely love their mission and cannot wait to see their vision come to life. Be sure to check them out at https://www.thecirsproject.org/ and for more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 1:14 Why they decided to create The CIRS Project 3:10 The CIRS Project’s founders’ CIRS backstories 7:00 The impact of CIRS on relationships 8:45 The importance of streamlining CIRS education for the patient 10:14 The communication goals for The CIRS Project 14:19 Major goal of the Project: Transitional housing for healing 16:05 Streamlining the chaos of explaining CIRS 19:50 How CIRS awareness will spread: sharing the human experience 22:58 What is next for The CIRS Project 27:00 Why it’s so important to share your story

HELPFUL LINKS: Learn about or donate to The CIRS Project: https://www.thecirsproject.org/ Get more of our guests’ CIRS backstory on the Vitality Hour Podcast, hosted by Dr. Eric Dorninger, with guests Aaron Pettigrew, Chris Foth, and Tim Martin: https://youtu.be/6WxFMhYm2rk?si=33OeE0qCpHwVzpoR

The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Limbic Training Community: https://www.wired4healing.com

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, often comes with very low or “undetectable” levels of MSH, or Melanocyte Stimulating Hormone. This hormone, which naturally occurs in the body, is connected to so many systems and can consequently cause a ton of symptoms when it’s too low. Today, we tackle all the ways this can manifest in CIRS patients, and offer some tips on getting yours back to normal levels. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro and disclaimer 0:47 What is MSH and what happens to it if you have CIRS? 2:45 Shoemaker’s Biotoxin Pathway (see notes below) 3:13 What does low MSH impact? 3:33 Sleep issues 3:40 Suppressed endorphins 3:46 Leaky gut/GI issues 4:05 Immune system dysregulation: co-infections 4:40 MARCoNs 5:57 Cortisol/ACTH dysregulation 7:02 Sex hormones: DHEA, Testosterone 7:41 ADH/Osmolality dysregulation: frequent urination and urgency, fainting 9:56 How do you raise your MSH? 10:32 Dr. Peg and Dr. Christian’s work re: Histamines and MSH 12:08 Barbara’s experience with MSH coming up 12:46 VIP spray’s role in MSH 13:30 Additional support: Sunrises and KPV 14:40 Why root cause healing is so important: brain atrophy

HELPFUL LINKS: Dr. Shoemaker’s Biotoxin Pathway: https://www.survivingmold.com/resources-for-patients/diagnosis/the-biotoxin-pathway Our CIRSx recap, which includes the talk Dr. Peg and Dr. Christian gave re: MSH: https://youtu.be/qkL6OuiD2mQ?si=ejvPUilbB0uncXcT

The CIRS Group: Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/

Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/ Pre-order Jacie’s book! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0

Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching: Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara

Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

Today we’re talking about Phase 4 of the Shoemaker Protocol: Metabolism Repair. This phase includes detox, balancing hormones, and balancing electrolytes. The Shoemaker Protocol is the only clinically proven and peer reviewed method for treating Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome. For more information, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:19 Phase Four: Metabolism Repair 1:00 Step One: Detox and how to handle with CIRS Treatment 3:10 Liver Support 3:35 Step Two: Balancing Hormones 5:30 Advocate for yourself in your treatment 6:33 Step Three: Balancing Electrolytes 9:17 Wrap up: Phase Four can be done in tandem with other phases

Jacie is a 3 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a wealth and wellness coach, 2 year carnivore and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com

Today we’re talking about Phase 5 of the Shoemaker Protocol: Repair and Restoration. This phase includes correcting MMP9, C3a and C4a, and TGF-beta 1, and taking Vasoactive Intestinal Peptide, or VIP, Spray. The Shoemaker Protocol is the only clinically proven and peer reviewed method for treating Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome. For more information, visit TheCIRSGroup.com

TIME STAMPS: 0:25 Phase 5: Maybe the most exciting 2:00 This phase is about Repair and Restoration 2:49 Correcting MMP9 5:43 Correcting C3a and C4a 6:24 Correcting TGF-beta 1 8:48 VIP Spray 10:13 Jacie’s experience with VIP Spray 12:03 Barbara’s experience with VIP Spray 13:09 Why you may want to track your symptoms 13:45 Reasons to join The CIRS Group

Jacie is a 3.5+ year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 2.5+ year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.

Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok

In this episode, we cover all the various degrees and methods of getting diagnosed with CIRS. There are cheap, at-home tests you can take, but then there are also expensive tests that must be ordered by your CIRS practitioner. We cover the benefits and limitations of each. To join The CIRS Group or for more information about it, please visit https://thecirsgroup.com